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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 10:28 am
Those children do not look as though they have one parent who is black. Just sayin.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 10:30 am
The lawyers can't force anyone to sign a trust or a will, and Michael seems short-sighted in this area.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 11:15 am
Wasn't Michael married to Debbie Rowe at the time of birth of his oldest two? Why would he have to adopt the children born to his wife while he was married to her? Didn't he pay for all the procedures for her to be impregnated?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 11:25 am
Good point, Denecee.. but if he wasn't the bio-dad wouldn't he need to legally adopt? I'm asking, really don't know. I come from boring.. mom and dad were really mom and dad and mom actually physically gave birth to me..
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 11:29 am
If MJ's name is on the birth certificate, wouldn't that trump everything else, legally?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 12:32 pm
MJ's manager said on CNN today that there is a will. According to California law, and laws in most other states, if you are married to the woman who gave birth, you are the *legal* dad. Period. Biology doesn't trump that. This has been help up repeatedly in divorce cases where 'dad' later found out the kid his wife had wasn't his biologically, but he is still found legally responsible to pay child support.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 1:20 pm
Yep, illogical as it is to me, that sure seems to be the way it goes. Anyway, I just reported the article and I suppose that website thought it was a point worth knowing that he hadn't legally adopted any of them, but I imagine the first thought was about Prince Michael II where he wasn't married to the surrogate or the donor of the egg or even the sperm.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 1:32 pm
Well, if the doctor was the actual sperm donor, wouldn't he be unable to say anything about it because of Doctor/Patient confidentiality? Boy, I think these kids will be 21 by the time the courts figure out this mess if they all start contesting it.
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Dfennessey
Member
07-25-2004
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 1:52 pm
I am just sure that who ever gets legal custody of the children just want the $$$$$ that goes with them.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 1:52 pm
I feel sorry for the children. It seems like a lot of selfish actions with the adult parties involved. Whatever the motivation, there is a huge problem. The children will pay the price of all of this turmoil and deception.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 1:55 pm
Maybe Janet should have gotten the kids. She doesn't need the money.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 1:56 pm
According to California law, and laws in most other states, if you are married to the woman who gave birth, you are the *legal* dad. Period. Jackson and Rowe were married in Australia. What bearing, if any, would that have?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 2:01 pm
I just heard his current (most recent?) attorney in an interview on CNN, and he said they were legally married at the time, and that's all that matters in detemining legal paternity. He also confirmed that there is a will dated 2002.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 2:09 pm
The CA law kinda sucks because a woman can put ANY man's name on the birth cert. and unless he contests it, pays for paternity testing, he's financially bound.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 2:11 pm
What's going to happen to the third child? Michael certainly wasn't married to that child's surrogate.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 2:25 pm
One would hope that the judge would use common sense and keep the 3 sibs together. But then, common sense doesn't always win out...
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 2:33 pm
Ca law is confusing! We weren't married when Caleb was born and before they'd put Darren's name down as his father, he had to sign a legal paper saying yes, Caleb was his. Which was very odd considering the fact that if they'd gone by looks, they'd have had me signing a paper claiming legal responsibility since Caleb looked nothing at all like me and was and still is a little mini me of his daddy, lol.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 2:54 pm
WG, come to think of it, we were married for both kids, and I am pretty sure DH had to sign the birth certificate. I may have to look that up.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 3:25 pm
This paper wasn't a birth certificate though, it was shoot, I can't remember what it was called, but it was to accept paternity. I'd look at it, but it's in the safety deposit box at the bank. It was just a couple hours after giving birth and maybe hormones or being tired or whatever, I just remember it making me absolutely furious. We'd already filled out and signed the bc paperwork and there was no denying Caleb looked just like Darren but there was this woman waving this damn piece of paper in our faces. Not sure how that would relate to MJ other than when Caleb was born and we weren't married Darren had to sign the paper claiming paternity and when we had Dakota and were married, there wasn't any question on the hospital/states part that he was the father.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 4:10 pm
About a half hour ago, I had tons of helicopters flying over my place. I naturally thought it had something to do with MJ because the coroner's office is I think fairly close to here. But duh. It was because Farrah's funeral was being held at the beautiful Cathedral of Our Lady of Angels, which is only like 3 blocks from me. I passed by there today and saw a slew of cameras and TV trucks outside, but I never made the connection.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 4:15 pm
I hope that service was of comfort to family and friends.
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 4:25 pm
Thank you, Tishala, for reminding us of Farrah's service.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 4:28 pm
Here's the beautiful sculpture of the Virgin Mary outside the Cathedral. Robert Graham, Anjelica Huston's deceased husband, is the artist.

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Stacey718995
Member
07-05-2007
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 4:51 pm
Sorry if this was already stated.... Private and public funerals have been set for the late Michael Jackson, according to CNN. Hs body will return to his Neverland Ranch for a public viewing on Friday, CNN reports. (Jackson's brothers Jackie, Jermaine and Tito visited the grounds over the weekend and a delivery truck was spotted there Tuesday dropping off boxes.) A private memorial service is slated for Sunday, according to CNN.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 4:59 pm
Wonder where Marlon was.
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