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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 11:27 am
Totally torn up about Patrick and Rihanna... 
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 11:33 am
what bothers me is reading the statements from fellow musicians, etc on MTV website. Overwhelmingly I am reading how peoples thoughts and prayers are going out to both Chris and Rihanna. I dont get it. Kimora Lee Simmons statement: "And I wish them both all the best and I send them my love and I'm very personally attached to both of them. And sometimes I think young lovers go through things and I really don't know what happened, so I wish everybody the best."
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 11:36 am
Sadly, Patrick looks end-stage. My FIL died of pancreatic cancer. By the time he was diagnosed, it had spread and he only had 4 mo. left. He had been a smoker at different times in his life, but could quit and then go back to it and stop again. I could never quite "get" that. His doctor told him more likely it was the amount of alcohol he drank which "put him in that situation." He was having symptoms earlier, but just brushed it off as diverticulitis until the pain became too great. I just hope Patrick is provided with as much comfort as possible. I've enjoyed his movies and I feel so bad for him and his wife.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 11:56 am
I wish them both the best. He's young and I hope he gets some help. From everything that I've read about him, he's not a bad kid. Just a kid that has done a bad thing and I hope he can fix what went wrong. Unfortunately I know a lot of young men that don't see that he did anything majorly wrong. They've not been taught respect. Maybe if he gets himself together, he can be a positive role model for these young men. Heck, maybe he'll get a reality series about his therapy and steps back (actually, I'm only half joking ... that wouldn't surprise me one bit). No way am I excusing what he did, he was definitely wrong and should have consequences, but it seems as if he has anger management issues and I hope he gets help.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 12:26 pm
Phil Spector had anger management issues too, so did Robert Blake, OJ Simpson. He beat her to a pulp, strangled her and left her unconscious. My 17 year old is young and would never lay a hand on anyone
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 1:18 pm
That's because you brought your son up better. And I still hope for him to get help. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. He's 19 and I just don't think he should just be tossed out like dirty bath water. If he can get help and straighten himself out, then that's a good thing. If he doesn't get help, he may turn out like OJ, Blake and Spector.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 1:28 pm
It depends on whether you think what he did makes him a bad person or whether you think he is a person who did something bad. I'd like to think he is a person who did something bad who can be helped to recognize that he did something bad and will never do it again.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 1:34 pm
I don't think violence of this nature just all of a sudden happens. I think its part of his upbringing and basic nature and he should go somewhere that he can't beat up little girls for fun anymore.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 1:39 pm
and dumping her on the side of the road... Something about that seems even on a deeper level of wrong.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 2:48 pm
I wish them all the best, but I think what is bothersome is the statements that seem to put Chris and Rihanna on an equal footing or that implies it was just a "bump in the road". But yeah, if Chris can turn this around, I don't care about his endorsements and that stuff, but if he can do the hard work with his issues, he'll have a better life and if he speaks/writes/whatever about that, it might help someone, someday. As for TMZ, Smoking Gun pointed out that TMZ has done much worse.
quote:In case you're wondering whether that gossip web site thought twice about publishing the photo of a battered Rihanna, well, give this a read: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0220091rihanna1.html
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 2:49 pm
I think Patrick told Barbara Walters something to the effect that if she could give him a longer prognosis, he'd quit smoking.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 3:04 pm
TMZ paying for and publishing that photo is one of the reasons that I refuse to give that site any hits.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 3:10 pm
Do we know that TMZ paid for it? I don't go to that site. But, as I said, Harvey Levin was doing interviews this morning and was adamant that the photo had been obtained legally. I haven't read any sites about this. I can't help but wonder if it was leaked by Rihanna's camp because people seemed to be so sympathetic to Chris Brown and maybe they wanted the extreme nature of the situation to be known. I saw the photo on television with a big TMZ watermark thru it, but even so, you could see how truly horrific her injuries are.
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 3:10 pm
I completely agree Ladytex. That photo should not have been published.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 3:10 pm
Yes, Patrick said something like if anyone told me I'd live longer if I didn't smoke I'd quit instantly. No one's given him any indication that stopping now would prolong his life, so I find it hard to blame him for doing something that gives him pleasure. Re: Chris Brown, I agree with Ladytex, I can't write someone off for a bad deed, even something as bad as this, without giving him a chance to fix whatever it is inside himself that made him do it. He needs help... maybe there's nothing that can be done but I think he should be given the opportunity to try. But Rhianna should stay well clear, however much she loves him.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, February 20, 2009 - 8:28 pm
ITA Ladytex. The problem is that "legitimate" media is giving them publicity by airing the photo too. It appalls me.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 9:43 am
Here they go again! Nicole Richie and boyfriend Joel Madden are expecting another child, barely a year after the arrival of daughter Harlow Winter Kate Madden last Jan. 11. In a message on the Web site of Good Charlotte, the band he fronts, Madden, 29, wrote, "I am so happy to tell everyone that Harlow is going to be a big sister! God has truly blessed my family. Hope [you're] all feeling as good as i am right now." Madden's message is titled "Better than winning an OSCAR!"
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Neko
Member
08-03-2001
| Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 10:07 am
I remember being so surprised when Nicole Richie got pregnant the first time, because she was at such a low weight that I was sure she wasn't even ovulating. She turned out to be such a great mom to Harlow, who is such a cutie, and I'm sure her and Joel will be great parents to this new baby too!!
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Marej
Member
09-20-2002
| Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 12:54 pm
On the TMZ TV show Friday night, Harvey said he is 99.9% sure the picture came from Rhianna's camp.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 1:13 pm
ANd Rhianna SHOULD get that photo out there! SHe should show the whole world what that guy did to her. Why hide it? He's already traumatized her, showing the picture should not cause her more trauma than she's already been though. It might not be fair, but I wish she would step up and be a poster child to help stop abusive behavior.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 2:02 pm
I think TMZ is putting it out there that Rhiannas camp gave it to them because they would otherwise be receiving stolen property. It is obviously a police photograh and Bratten has admitted as much. So TMZ has obtaine the photo illegally and is trying to deflect the attention. She doesnt need to be the poster child for anything, she needs to just take care of herself and listen to her family. Stay away from this guy, heal and get her self confidence back. Everyone is saying how much she can do for other women, if I was her mother I would say dont worry about other women, take care of yourself first and then when you are well decide if you want to help others. The poor kid needs to work on herself first.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 2:15 pm
I agree about that if I were her mom too. But for the greater good (and since I am NOT her mom), I say, be that poster child. Make some good come of this. Maybe someone else won't allow themself to stay in an abusive situation based on what they see Rhianna do. I KNOW it is not fair. This is a burden on Rhianna's shoulder that she in no way asked for or should be expected to carry. But it is what it is. And there COULD be some good that comes out of this horrible situation.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 2:36 pm
I just want to see her steering very clear of him and getting her self-esteem back. (I think if she's ever seen with him again, it would give off a terrible message.)
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 2:42 pm
At 21, Rihanna is not a child. However, she could be the poster person for women who want to leave an abusive relationship and have a huge amount of money, fans and support to do it. I'm not making light of her situation. I am suggesting that she is facing fewer obstacles to leaving and has much greater support than many if not most women in abusive relationships.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 2:57 pm
Good points Jimmer. I didn't even think about that, but it is true. She is lucky enough to have a whole lot of people who will support her. (Not forgetting that she was unlucky enough to have this happen to her in the first place.) But if there ever were someone to be a poster child on leaving an abusive relationship, someone like her (in her position-with so much support and so much publicity) would be an ideal person.
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