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Mack
Member
07-23-2002
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 4:45 pm
I've given patients a lot of warnings but I'll have to say "itchy butt" isn't in the list. Since I just consult now I don't get the opportunity often and hopefully I'll forget because I'd probably break out laughing from the thought. 
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 8:32 pm
I've found that sour gummy worms are cutting the metallic taste in my mouth. Just thought I'd pass on that wisdom. 
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Sugar
Member
08-15-2000
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 11:11 pm
Itchy butt was on the list of possible side effects. It was probably worded differently, "Possible anal itching" or something, don't remember now. I do think of it when the ads for diet aids come on with "anal leakage" as a listed side effect. I'm just gonna stay fat. No Scoot, the butterscotch did nothing to soothe the raging itchin'. Of course, I didn't try to apply it directly to the affected area.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 9:35 am
Ok, need a little help on what to do. At the moment I have 3 dogs. Sometimes dogs bark. My dogs sleep in the house, so they do not bark all night. However, the neighbors dogs (all except our ones next door have dogs) tend to bark all night or starting at sun up, whatever. I deal with it. As I have dogs too and it could just as easily be my dogs doing the barking. I usually feed them about 7 PM, then let them in about 8 or 9 for their bed time. Last night after I fed them, I went back into the house to give the girls a bath and a few minutes later my phone rang. It was my next door neighbor, fuming. He said "Can you do something about your dogs" I told him that I was going to let them in a bit and he retorted with "Well I can't hear my TV and that's a problem". So I said I'd let them in right away, and then he hung up on me. I went outside to let them in and the lab we are fostering was barking at the neighbors cat that was on the fence. I yelled at her to shut it and she did, then we let them in the garage to finish eating and dry off (it was drizzling a little). I was a little irritated at neighbor, but I can understand. One other time they've come over and asked if I could stop the dogs from barking. It was one night when I fell asleep early and forgot to let them in. They barked with the other dogs all night long I guess. I didn't hear them, but I apologized and explained why they were barking and that I would let them in so it wasn't a problem. I am not sure what to do here, as sometimes I don't get home until 8:30 at night (I feed them at 6PM those nights, before I leave) I want to leave an "i'm sorry if the dogs were barking" note. Is there some way to stop the barking when I am not there? How should I handle grouchy neighbors?
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 9:49 am
I have two dogs that are mainly house dogs but do spend time outside, especially in summer. They are generally quiet except for when a squirrel runs across our back fence and they go nuts for maybe 30 seconds to a minute. I purchased a sonic bark control unit for multiple dogs.... I hook it on our back fence (right where the dogs run to and bark when they see the squirrel). When they bark it lets out a sonic beep (not audible to humans) that catches their attention and they stop barking. Not perfect but it cuts down on the noise. I always bring my dogs in when I leave the house because I can't control their behavior if I am not there. I figure if my neighbors wanted to listen to barking, they would buy their own dogs. LOL Perhaps ask your vet what method of anti-barking methods she/he would recommend. When we only had the one dog I tried the collar type but my *$&%^ father-in-law kept taking the batteries out so the poor dog never learned a damm thing. I have heard good things about it from others who were able to use it with more consistancy.
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 10:01 am
escapee, my next door neighbor adopted one of our labs from our rescue and she tends to leave him outside whenever she leave and he does not like it. he just constantly barks. i realized that if i call his name and tell him quiet...he'll calm down and stop barking. my dogs will go outside sometimes and hear something and will just bark and bark. usually if we correct them, they stop pretty quickly, like your lab. in our house, we leave the back door open when we're gone (we live in a neighborhood where people call the police if there is anything remotely weird, only reason why) and i figure if the dogs are barking, because they usually don't bark at cats, it is something weird going on. they usually shut themselves up pretty quick. they do, however, like it seems your dogs do, egg each other one with barking...one starts, they all do it. if the neighbors don't want any barking, i would do what rissa said and leave them inside, confined to a room if you don't trust them. or you could try bark collars, also like rissa said. the b*tch in me believes that at some point the neighbors will have to get over it...turn up the tv more or move the tv away from being so close to the backyard.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 10:09 am
i haven't read the responses (so this might be a repeat) and am getting pushed off this computer by dh, but you can call the police and they can do the dirty work--which is generally handled in a non-threatening and friendly kind of manner. There is some kind of law about quiet times...
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 10:15 am
You can also get sonic collars, much like the unit described above. The best kind are triggered by both sound AND vibration, so you don't get false corrections. Those that work off sound can trigger when another dog is barking; and those that work off vibration can trigger when your dog shakes his head or scratches too vigorously. Both of those conditions confound the training effect. The sonic collars (not electric collars) are effective on many dogs, and are not inhumane in any way.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 10:32 am
I may go look at them today to see what I can get. I don't want to have to buy more than one collar, so I hope putting it on the lab will do the job for now. Also, leaving the door open is not an option. It's been rainy here, so that would mean MUD, plus the lab craps even if I stick her in the garage for a period of time. She doesn't do it when I let her in the house at night, thankfully. These are BIG dogs, so I can't see letting them have free run of my house, or in and out privelages as they see fit. We just replanted our backyard, and the seeds is not set up enough to put them on the other side of the yard, so right now they are in a 15/20 pen during the day. They have shelter and water. I am going to pick up some big bones and toys, maybe that will keep them occupied. I don't want to get turned in, as I would never turn someone else in for barking dogs. They are dogs, that is what they do. The neighbors behind us who's poor dog is so lonely she just yaps all day, I'd let her come over to play if I could. She's just lonely.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 10:37 am
Escapee, if your run is only 15/20, you might look at the stationary sonic units. The drawback is that they only work off of sound, so if you have a really hyper dog, or one that an block the sound mentally, they don't work as well. You may still need to get two to cover that area. It might also work on your neighbors' dogs (added bonus?) What I've found with the stationary units, is that my dogs would just back away from it until they were just out of range, and they would go back to barking. 
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 12:57 pm
Agree with everything said. The collar types do definately have the drawback of being set off by vibration so every time my dog would shake his head it would go off. LOL Whatever you pick, I would recommend you start it right after work on a Friday and be there to train them with it through the weekend. A sharp "NO" when they bark, at the same time the unit goes off. Will be tiring I am sure but worth it to get off on the right foot. Putting it on and walking away probably won't be too effective.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 1:00 pm
From what I've heard, the stationary units don't work very well, and/or the dogs get used to the noise and go back to barking even more. Plus, where our run is, there's no where to put it to keep it out of the weather. I bought a bark collar, much to my mother's horror. She told me I was cruel and inhumane.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 1:03 pm
OOoops, my post made no sense as I read your post way too fast. What is the reason the dogs can't stay in your house all day? Or even one room? That to me seems the easiest and most logical.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 1:04 pm
The sonic collar sounds like a good idea. I don't like the citronella or shock collars. I don't like to hear dogs barking. I have a fenced in back yard and my dog loves to stay out. She barks when a dog goes by on the next street but then stops on her own. She is loud. I don't think my neighbors should have to hear more than a few barks out of her. If she doesn't shut up, in she comes.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 1:19 pm
Because I don't want a 75 pound chocolate lab in my house all day unsupervised (not to mention I have 3 dogs right now). What is hard to understand about that? I don't just have an 'extra' room to keep her in. My house is not that big.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 1:25 pm
I don't really have a 'safe' room for my dogs to stay in all day either. I have a ten month old lab, and while he is very well house trained, much like Marley of book fame, he will chew on anything in sight. I also have a puppy mill beagle, who is 9 years old and as far as I am concerned, can't be housebroken. Love him dearly, even with all his idiosyncracies. But out they go during the day. The jack russell however is an absolute angel. He can be in all day, never eats anything that's not his, and never has an accident. He's such a sweetheart!
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 1:25 pm
Escapee, is there something in particular that sets off the barking? Like mine and their dang squirrel fetish? If yes, can you block the view on that side of their kennel? Mine used to bark at the kids walking by on their way to/from school. We just put a sheet of plywood on the inside of the gate at that side of the house and problem gone. ETA Our 9 yr old has seperation anxiety. No way he can run the house when we aren't home. When I am gone he is in the laundry room with door shut.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 1:31 pm
Maybe it depends on how close your neighbors are. My township has a "half hour barking" law. Then the owner will have to do something about it. I think it is unfair for a dog owner to leave for the day and let neighbors put up with hours of barking.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 1:33 pm
Their kennel is actually just a pen, horse wire on 2 sides, six foot fence on the other, it's in the corner of our yard. Like I said, with new grass seed, there is no where else to put it right now. So their kennel shares a fence with my neighbors yard. What set Sadie off last night was THEIR damn cat sitting on the fence, so I can't really block that. I hate that cat, it pees on my tires.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 1:36 pm
But cat pee smells so good Escapee.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 1:39 pm
Did I mention my neighbors are gone all day, so that's not an issue, as they work the same hours as I do. It was that few minutes in the evening between the time I fed them and the time I let them in.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 1:45 pm
Oh
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 2:03 pm
LOL, I have never seen a cat pee on a tire. Isn't that a dog thang? I have the greatest dog, he's half black lab, half golden retriever. He is the only dog I have had as an adult and most likely is the only dog I will ever have. I love him so much. Uh-oh, I need a gripe to be in here, let me see....nope no gripe.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 2:04 pm
LOL 'Necee, nice to see a gripeless-gripe post. 
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 2:22 pm
Cat's spray/pee on tires all the time. It's disgusting.
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