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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 1:56 pm
Beeky, this is an online photo-editing site I sometimes use for cropping and resizing etc. (mostly resizing) http://www.resize2mail.com/index.php I also have another photo-editing program on my computer, which I used for those pix above: 'IPhotoExpress'
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 2:19 pm
Thanks for posting that interview with Joe, Tishala. Everytime I tried to watch it today, it had been taken down. He really is bizarre. I got the feeling that Michael's death was secondary to him. Quite telling.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 2:48 pm
The autopsy report has been released on Billy Mays, he had an enlarged heart and looks like he died of a pulmonary embolism.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 3:11 pm
That's just chilling, just how removed Joe was from the interview.. he wasn't even listening to the questions several times and was mostly interested in having that introcution for his label which I hope is boycotted. Those children certainly do not need him in their lives! If that is Victoria Rowell on the left with the blonde daughter, I'd have to guess she was biracial, so the daughter isn't a huge surprise.. no idea of the father, but I would never think that any of the Jacksons are biracial, so the caucasian features, straight hair, etc., don't SEEM to match too well to Michael being their bio father. Agree that he WAS their father and I hope whoever raises them will respect his wishes. They are beautiful children.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 3:20 pm
Sea, I knew a mixed couple; he was a black Jamaican doctor and she a blond English doctor. They had two kids. The daughter took after the father with the dark skin, facial feaures, eyes and hair, and the son after his mother with fair skin, blond hair and blue eyes. It was rather remarkable to see the siblings together and most people wrongly assumed that they either came from different parents or that one of them was adopted.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 3:21 pm
A friend of mine said Joe Jackson is like Noah Cross, the John Huston character in Chinatown. I think that's about right.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 3:23 pm
He certainly seems to be a piece of work--ughh. (Helps one understand a lot about Michael.)
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 3:33 pm
I watched some vids I hadn't seen in years over the weekend, (in the closet, bad, way you make me feel, remember the time, etc). God, I'd forgotten how hot Michael was at one time-he was sizzling!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 4:14 pm
Holly, I'm sure we all know of many situations where children don't "look like" parents, but usually there is an explanation. Despite Michael's pale looks in recent years, that doesn't seem to be part of his genetics. ---- Just saw a clip on CNN of Joe pronouncing that "we" will take the children and raise them and educate them and that "we" have others their age. (That tells me that Joe feels he is helping to raise other grandchildren, so even one of Michael's siblings who might live in Vegas as guardian might still include lots of Joe contact) I just think back to how they raised and educated Michael.. and that he didn't want the kids to go to them, also that, per this same show, Katherine is 79 and she isn't just saying I'll take care of the children, but that she wants fiscal control of the ENTIRE ESTATE. Uhhh.. In the interview from the clip above, while Joe couched it it terms of "it is too bad" that Michael is now loved more than when he was alive.. I'm sure he also realizes that anything touched by Michael will also be WORTH more now. And oh, if his company can get control of that..
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 4:31 pm
I think everyone is aware about Michael's color 'fading' to his pale look, Sea. The kids I posted about were beyond "not looking like" their parents. They were two entirely different races from parents of two different races. I had never seen anything like it before, nor have I since. I don't think it's common at all. It may be a long shot but perhaps Michael had 2 kids who took after their mother--i.e. Caucasian.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 4:32 pm
I agree with Supergranny - I believe those are Michael's bio. kids. Their mom is real light complected with light eyes. Those kids are both fairly dark and look to have very dark eyes. Who knows, if one or both kids lean toward the afro type hair, it can be straightened. I see at least as much resemblence to him as I do to Debbie Rowe.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 5:09 pm
I started a new thread in the AI section. They're doing a re-play of the F13 doing Michael Jackson songs.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 5:17 pm
Thanks, Mame. I'll check that out when I get some time.
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Stacey718995
Member
07-05-2007
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 5:35 pm
I just watched the Joe Jackson interview. It is like he is on drugs or drinking. It was just so bizaare, it makes you even more sad for all of the Jackson children. It makes me really sad to think maybe his grandchildren are living with him. It left me with such a terrible sad feeling after watching.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 6:16 pm
why in the world didn't Michael have a trust!!!??? It floors me that it appears he did not. YOu have that much money, that many attnys in your life and not one of those idiots makes you do a trust!!!???? I hate that Michael had so many users in his life. I cant believe his 'estate' money wasnt in a trust let alone his wishes for his children. A will doesnt hold up in court like a trust. Wills can be contested, trusts can not. I almost wonder if there is a trust and Papa has made it disappear and is saying that even the will is in question. I am not even happy with Mama raisin those kids, she didnt stop Joe's abuse 40 yrs ago, how can she even begin to try now? It's always been telling to me that ALL of their kids call their dad JOE!!!! to me that says it all. Anyone else as shocked as me that MJ didnt have a trust? We have learned a few lessons from this...take care of your loved ones while you are alive, so if you die suddenly other people arent steppin in that you would never want to see raise your kids and live every day to the fullest, tell your loved ones ya love them and show them daily!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 6:18 pm
Well put, Pamy.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 6:24 pm
Pamy...I asked DH that same question. Why in the world did MJ not put provisions strongly in place? DH said, "He was Peter Pan...and Pan never had to think about things like that." It's sad, but I think it's true. And you are so right. Do what you need to do NOW, today, for those you love because you never know what a day will bring.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 6:43 pm
Honestly, it has pissed me off all day! and it has pissed me off that no one has even said darn! he shoulda had a trust, no one seems to even think it was weird eta; when I say no one I mean in the media and in interviews, not anyone here
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 6:46 pm
Pamy...it's been pissing me off all day, too. He had attorneys around him all the time. Did NONE of them think to advise him to do this? I really don't get it. But I've been pissed about the drugs AND pissed about the kids. Doesn't seem right. Just as it doesn't seem right that Joe keeps making all his appearances about his record label. The whole thing is so sad.
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Erniesgirl
Member
06-26-2006
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 6:51 pm
They were pointing out on CNN that we should note that Katherine is the person named as being granted guardianship, not Katherine and Joe. A lot of that most certainly has to do with his wacky behaviour of late and his abusive behaviour of years gone by.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 7:31 pm
Of course! She would have a much better chance alone, but they still live in the "compound" and Joe certainly intends to have a "hand" in raising them. And New pics from TMZ shown on Anderson Cooper.. in some his daughter looks to have blue eys, not dark ones. Some very nice pics, never before seen, at various ages. Cute kids..
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 7:51 pm
Well, it would have been better to have some of his property in a trust, that's for sure. However, it could also be possible that there is a will somewhere. Everyone has said they haven't 'seen' one, but sometimes it takes awhile for these things to surface.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 8:08 pm
pics of Jessica Sarah Parker and Mathew Broderick's new babies... LINK
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 8:24 pm
What a great photo of the family and new babies, Texannie...thanks for that link!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, June 29, 2009 - 8:28 pm
I think any attorney on MJ's payroll should be seriously looked at if he didn't have a trust OR a will. I would even think the state bar should be asking these so called attnys what gives
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