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Panda
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07-15-2005

Monday, March 02, 2009 - 11:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
I don't know why but the whole thing of them being stowed away at Diddy's house bothers me. I feel like it's too soon for a reunion.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, March 02, 2009 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Doesnt sound like she learned much from the incident either. I have to keep repeating that he has hit her before...it will happen again and it might be a lot worse, even fatal.

Combs wasnt doing either one of them favors. The idea that people go back to well I have heard of women hitting men, it almost seems like oh there were mitigating circumstances to him treating her like a punching bag. None of that works for me. he is an abuser pure and simple, no matter how good looking or popular he is.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, March 02, 2009 - 12:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Maris, I didn't say that. Clearly. I said it didn't excuse HIS behavior.

I am saying that sometimes both people do participate in the physical violence. And the weaker one gets the worst of it.

When she says "admit her part", we have to allow that maybe she did hit him with a frying pan or something. That's wrong too, unless it was self defense.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, March 02, 2009 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Karuuna I wasnt pointing to your post but all over the web you read it. She didnt hit him with an object in the car. She threw his keys out the window

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, March 02, 2009 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I honestly don't know that much about the story. if that's all she cops to, then that REALLY is no excuse for his violence. I don't buy the idea that bad behavior is provocation for attacking someone.

I'm just interested in her story, since sometimes you get women coming in who say "I made him hit me because dinner wasn't ready." And other times you have guys coming in with concussions or lacerations because they were attacked, usually with some kind of household item become weapon.

Sometimes these guys then go nuts on the women (no excuse except to do enough to protect yourself), and sometimes they try to just restrain them, but they usually get called out as offenders for any response other than running away.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Monday, March 02, 2009 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
maris, people say things in the heat of the moment. we do not know for sure that he has hit her before except for what rihanna has said.

i have said some incredibly hurtful things and did not mean then later on.

again it goes back to nobody knows what really happened that night except three people and that's the way it'll stay.

of course, i'm not saying that it couldn't be true, but people lie all the time and say things in the heat of the moment out of anger. it could be true...it could not be true...nobody knows except rihanna, chris, and god.

and i'm not trying to make chris the victim, but rihanna could be saying she only did one thing (throw the car keys out) to look more like the victim. please do not think i think that what chris did is excusable...because it isn't. i'm just saying...rihanna may not be telling the whole truth.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, March 02, 2009 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
He didnt dispute her accounting of events and that came from the police department. Sure she could be making up that he hit her before after all what evidence is there that he ever hit her -- oh yeah -- her battered and bruised face.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Monday, March 02, 2009 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
About 3 weeks before this incident, I read on one of those gossip sites that there was trouble in paradise between them, based on his womanizing. So it sounds like his receiving another text message in the car (the given reason for this assault) may have put her over the edge and she slapped him or tried to push him out of the car or something. I very much doubt she had her frying pan with her with which to boink him. But whatever the cause for the beating, they can have each other. I wonder if the bite marks have healed yet.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, March 02, 2009 - 2:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
He appeared in public not long after the incident and if you compare what his face looked like to what hers looked like in the leaked photo.. sure looks like she is the one that was physically hurt. And as I understood it he left the scene and she wasn't able to leave under her own power.

I think she's being threatened/coerced to not make waves and just the fact that Chris or his people hired Mark Geragos .. Mark is pretty famous for trashing the other side..

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, March 02, 2009 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
What is also disturbing to me is so many people seeming to defend him. Like we should just not make a big deal of him beating her up.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, March 02, 2009 - 3:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I know Julie, it totally astonishes me.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Monday, March 02, 2009 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
julie, i do not think anyone is defending him.

i am certainly not defending him.

all i am pointing out is that NOT EVEN THE POLICE KNOW THE REAL STORY OF THAT NIGHT. people lie all the time...chris could be lying...rihanna could be lying.

what i think people are defending is the fact that instead of crucifying him and putting him to death, give him a chance to get some help and make a change in his life.

i think way too many people are quick to crucify him and not give him a chance...because it truly could have been a mistake and won't ever happen again.

there are habitual wife beaters. then they are people who made a really really huge mistake and do their best to change their lives around. unfortunately too many people clump those two together when it is completely separate.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Monday, March 02, 2009 - 4:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
He's a bigger guy. She's a smaller woman. He beat her to a pulp. He didn't push or hit her one time. OH No, he went after her. One look at her face after the incident tells the story. Even if she slapped him, it didn't EXCUSE what he did to her!!
He clearly cannot control his anger.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, March 02, 2009 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I agree with Seamonkey's theory on the matter.

And PS Rhianna is the one who wound up in the hospital, Chris hid behind his daddy and his preacher and cried. If he comes out of Diddy's compound with a matching set of physical, mental and emotional scars as Rhianna and then asks for forgiveness based on therapy and heartfelt penance, well then I might get off his case. But not before.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I put anyone who pounds on someone repeatedly to cause multiple injuries an abuser. One slap maybe even one hit, I can understand but he didnt stop. the idea that NOT EVEN THE POLICE KNOW THE REAL STORY is not entirely accurate. The real story is the girl was beaten to a pulp and he didnt have a scratch on him. He left the scene of the crime.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
okay, Maris...that is true. police know a good amount of the story, but not everything. PEOPLE LIE ALL THE TIME. and just because he didn't have a scratch on him...does not mean she did not defend herself. i have hit someone and left no bruises...it happens.

Chris should have kept his cool no matter what, but SHE STILL DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT, JUST LIKE HIM, TO LAY HANDS ON ANYONE. and no one can tell me that she didn't just because there is no evidence. neither person is right in this situation, and chris is more in the wrong just because we have seen what happened to rihanna.

rihanna is a victim, chris should have kept his cool, gotten out of the car and took a walk to cool down and she should have left. but that's not what happened...i'm so glad everyone is so saintly to put him up and crucify him.

i truly do not believe that chris is an abuser, i truly believe he made a HUGE mistake and i hope he truly feels horrible for what he did and receives help for it.

but let's continue hanging him up and saying he'll never change...that's exactly the pessimism that we need in this world.

Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
Looking at her pic tells me that this was not a first time, spur of the moment, lost his cool beating. That was not her first beating at all IMO.

If there was another part of the story like he was defending himself, she was beating on him first, or whatever. He would have already told that story period. But nothing was said, except for an apology. He knew what he did was wrong.

I do think many people are backing him up. I hate that P-Diddy gave them a place where God knows what is happening in there. I know there is no psychologist up in there, helping them. She should have not been sent there with him at all. And Jay-Z, saying that Rhi is like his sister, and will stand by her whenever. Bull, if that was his real sister, Chris Brown would have already been dead to the public. It would not take that much to kill his career.

I hate how everyone is tiptoeing around this situation and the messages it is sending to young fans out there. I hope they have enough to convict without Rhianna.

I don't care what anyone says, I am not going to give him the benefit of the doubt. The man beat her ass, plain and simple.

And I know you can't tell a woman anything. It takes some longer than others. I just hope it hits her soon that once a beater, always a beater.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 1:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
<I hate how everyone is tiptoeing around this situation and the messages it is sending to young fans out there. I hope they have enough to convict without Rhianna.

I don't care what anyone says, I am not going to give him the benefit of the doubt. The man beat her ass, plain and simple.>

Totally agree with this, Zgoodgirl. Hopefully he pays for this otherwise it's a terrible message to send out there and 10 steps backwards in regard to domestic violence. I saw Chris Brown jetting around on Diddy's jet-ski the other day, not a care in the world. Rhianna is still walking around with her face all covered up.

Dfennessey
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07-25-2004

Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 1:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfennessey a private message Print Post    
I think they are both sending out terrible messages to the young fans. they both should be ashamed of themselves.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
The jetting around on the jet-ski I found extremely disrespectful. He's young and I thought there might be a chance that this was some sort of climax and he could see what happened and seek help, but acting like he hasn't a care in the world shows me he doesn't see his actions the way they should be seen.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
If he was defending himself, he didn't need to beat the h*ll out of her.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 8:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Oh dear. I just heard on our local morning news show that Rihanna and Chris Brown got married at Diddy's.

Has anyone else heard this??

I'm hoping my coffee hasn't kicked in yet and it was some sort of sick joke.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
It could be true and there could be a reason:


http://www.celebuzz.com/rihanna-chris-brown-married-s90591/

Did Chris Brown and Rihanna get married while they were in Miami over the weekend?

Star magazine is reporting that the couple, who are currently weathering a firestorm of controversy after supposedly reconciling post-alleged beating incident, were secretly married while staying at Diddy's Star Island house in Miami.

Brown and Rihanna reportedly had a tearful meeting in which Brown is said to have apologized for physically attacking her, and proposed to her.

And the 20-year-old singer reportedly forgave him.

"All she's ever wanted was to be with him forever," a source says. "Rihanna is looking for the husband-and-two-kids deal before she turns 25. She believes in fairy tales, and she wants to live hers with Chris. She was totally up front and confessed to him, 'I can't live without you.'"

At that point, a minister was said to have been called to Diddy's 14.5 million dollar estate.

The couple returned from Miami on Sunday evening and are reportedly staying at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel in Beverly Hills. Is this a honeymoon stay?

If this incredible story is true, this would also mean that Rihanna won't have to testify against Chris if his case goes to trial. Legally, a spouse can not be coerced to testify against their husband or wife.



Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That is absolutely mind boggling.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Unbelievable.

ETA: Thanks, Twiggish.