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Babyruth
Member
07-19-2001
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 1:31 pm
Wow, thanks for posting that, Tish. I feel bad for her.
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Dfennessey
Member
07-25-2004
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 1:34 pm
I just hope that she realizes it is not her fault. He needed to want help
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 1:38 pm
Oh Tish, you so much for posting that. I am typing through tears.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 1:57 pm
Just a smile.. I was in my downstairs bathroom, about to brush my teeth.. that room is next to my neighbor's living room and one of the places when I can hear their music. The mom works for a local PD, night shift, kids are 14/15 y. o. twins girl/boy.. normally she plays rock stuff and the son likes drums, but today I realized what I was hearing through my wall was early Michael Jackson music. I'm thinking it was the mom. Another person sharing the loss.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 1:58 pm
Wow!
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Mak1
Member
08-12-2002
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 1:59 pm
Deepak Chopra is on CNN right now. He knew MJ well and is saying he had lupus and vitiligo. I had never heard about the lupus. Chopra also said "He was surrounded by enablers." When he heard the news, the first thing he considered was drugs as the cause of death.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 2:04 pm
Chopra is also talking about how he confronted MJ about his drug abuse, and frequently that MJ would try to manipulate Chopra into writing prescriptions for him. He also went right out on that limb and said that he is sure that drugs caused his death.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 2:15 pm
Tisha thanks for posting Lisa Marie's statement. His ex? attorney was almost manic last night speaking out about the enablers around Michael, but he also sounded like someone who had possibly tried to help and had shared the fears with others. It really is difficult to force anyone to take care of themself and even more difficult when that person has the means to insulate their life from scrutiny.. there will always be those, who, for a price, will keep the person in the state that is most advantageous to those helpers. Sometimes the most talented people fly high, but their trajectory is sadly short.. I think of Elvis, Marilyn, Judy Garland, Janis, Michael, many of the younger "stars" of today, flame out, enabled. I don't know that anyone could have protected Michael from himself, but I do know that each person who enabled him could have said NO.. even if they thought, well the next person to come along will provide this anyway.. I'd sure be sweating if I was that doctor.. if he was THERE at the time and perhaps didn't react quickly enough, or perhaps had contributed to whatever put Michael in jeopardy. Of course they may find something that will tell us it would have happened anyway, but certainly it sounds like lifestyle.. painkillers and other drugs, if he was indeed anorexic as has been said, that would be another stressor on his heart, if his efforts to prepare for this very ambitious and physical tour were too much for him. ==== And I mis-reported earlier that Serena Williams is good friends with Janet Jackson. She said in an interview today that she knew Michael the best in the family, mostly just Michael. She and Venus had seen him in concert but found out that he was a fan and watched their matches.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 2:17 pm
Wow, guess news is breaking.. just tuned in to CNN based on above post. Heard the end of the 911 call.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 2:17 pm
Missed the Chopra interview. Just makes me sad.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 2:21 pm
Well, Chopra talked a lot about trying to help Michael kick his addiction; but Michael wouldn't have it. He also said there were just 'too many doctors' in Hollywood who are willing to dispense prescriptions by request; and he talked about how shameful he thought that was.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 2:31 pm
Have to agree with that.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 2:42 pm
Again, that hippocratic oath comes into play. My daughter has vitiligo.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 2:53 pm
Got it, Abby.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 3:27 pm
My take from Lisa Maria's statement... thank you for saying you had a normal romance with Michael and dispelling some of the bad things said about him.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 3:41 pm
What a sweet message from Lisa Marie.
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 4:10 pm
Well, I really didn't want to see that photo of Michael Jackson, but there I was switching channels around 6:30 and they flashed it up as an ad for Entertainment Tonight :-(
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 4:20 pm
I repeat, you'll be seeing THAT picture plastered all over the tabloids at the super market/newstand soon if not already.
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 5:25 pm
Update for those interested. I had read somewhere that: TV Land will air the first two episodes of Chasing Farrah on June 27 to honor her memory. NBC will rebroadcast Farrah's Story on June 26 at 9 p.m. and Oxygen will air the documentary on June 27. HOWEVER, the rebroadcast of Farrah's Story is already on here EST at 8 PM, an hour earlier than original planned. Not sure what is happening with 10-11PM time slot. UPDATE: I just checked. According to NBC website, Farrah's Story is airing 8PM to 10PM, followed at 10 PM by: "Dateline NBC MICHAEL JACKSON: THE KING OF POP All New". I guess Chopping Block will not air tonight.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 5:48 pm
Which picture???
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 5:50 pm
Farrah was one of the most attractive women ever. I'm totally hetro. & I was even attracted to her! Everyone wanted her hair & I was one that copied it. She broke out it "Charlie's Angels" and it was nice to see a "dirty blonde" shine. Before her, anyone who was kinda blonde was going that whole bleached out look. I've always been a brunette so I wasn't effected by that. I did, however except my own sexuality somewhat because of her. I am 11 yrs younger & was always afraid that being attactive meant being dumb - well, Farrah sure proved that to be a misconception. Women like me wore the big hair, wore skimpier clothes than we normally would have, and realized that we could also be looked at as having a brain. She was an imperasion.
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 6:01 pm
Julieboo, I had to go back several pages here to find the quotes that alerted me to the "death photo" and I have been trying to avoid seeing it ever since! Here are the quotes from maybe four pages back: Babyruth: "a photo (obtained from ET) that someone took of Michael's face while he was (dead) being loaded into the ambulance." Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 8:44 pm Brenda1966: CNN also showed the photo of Michael on the strecher with breathing tube. So tacky to show that. So tacky to take that photo. Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 8:54 pm Seamonkey: They showed that same picture of Michael on CNN, on Larry King (he congratulated whoever snapped the pic) and on Anderson Cooper. Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 9:05 pm Brenda1966: Why on earth would Larry King congratulate whoever took that horrible, insensitive photo? Doesn't Micheal deserve any dignity? Shameful. Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 9:14 pm
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 6:07 pm
Is there a link to said (sad) photo?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 6:07 pm
I find this so haunting, the lyrics of the song Childhood by MJ...the song he called his autobiography: Written and Composed by Michael Jackson. Produced by Michael Jackson. Have you seen my Childhood? I'm searching for the world that I come from 'Cause I've been looking around In the lost and found of my heart... No one understands me They view it as such strange eccentricities... 'Cause I keep kidding around Like a child, but pardon me... People say I'm not okay 'Cause I love such elementary things... It's been my fate to compensate, for the Childhood I've never known... Have you seen my Childhood? I'm searching for that wonder in my youth Like pirates in adventurous dreams, Of conquest and kings on the throne... Before you judge me, try hard to love me, Look within your heart then ask, Have you seen my Childhood? People say I'm strange that way 'Cause I love such elementary things, It's been my fate to compensate, for the Childhood (Childhood) I've never known... Have you seen my Childhood? I'm searching for that wonder in my youth Like fantastical stories to share But the dreams I would dare, watch me fly... Before you judge me, try hard to love me. The painful youth I've had Have you seen my Childhood....
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, June 26, 2009 - 6:08 pm
Oh, Beth, thanks for the quotes about that photo.
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