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Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
She's not just leaning into her dad. She's leaning back into his lower body, with her arm draped over his upper thigh in the bottom picture and his arm encircling her holding her hand in the upper picture. If you did not know these people are father and daughter, you would think they are lovers from the body language. I would never be comfortable posing with my father like that. Ew! <shudders again>

Sorry! I don't mean to sound disrespectful to your opinion. I'm just really, really skeeved by those pictures, lol.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
FWIW, regarding the "boy" she "loves"...she and her family have talked about how the boy (sorry, can't remember his name...and yes, he is a man, not a boy) has brought her closer to her religion.

Listen, different strokes for different folks.
But nowhere in those pics do I see the idea that she should "put some crack in her pipe, make a porn, shoot some herion" as Foxx suggested.

And also FWIW, I have seen many girls who would feel comfortable enough to recline on their Daddy like that. (gasp!!!)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - I don't see much in that picture that is troublesome other than a photographer trying to justify what they are paying her by coming up with what she thinks are cool and edgy portraits.

Oh wait ... she's not in the picture ... and yet somehow I sense her presence.

Heyltslori
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09-15-2001

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heyltslori a private message Print Post    
If the pics were of Miley and her mom we'd likely all be saying aww...how sweet.

I have a picture of my sister and my dad, holding hands, sitting on the sofa together with their heads touching. I guess if people didn't know them they might not assume they were father and daughter. I think it's a beautiful picture and I'd give about anything to have a nice picture of me and my dad.

If Miley and her dad are comfortable with those pictures than what difference should it make to anyone else?

I guess it's all perspective.


Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
It's perspective and also the baggage we all carry with us regarding our own experiences. I would never pose like that with anyone from my family. LOL. But we are not a touchy feely kind of family. However, I personally do not see anything wrong with those photos, other than they are hollywood edgy.

As for the boy living with them -- I think we need to keep in mind their house is not like your and my house. Think sprawling mansion. It's probably like living in the same apartment building. :-)

Jamie Fox was out of line. He was trying to be funny. I get that, but it wasn't funny. And I do feel bad for Miley. I think she's really trying to stay hip with her maturing fan base, and yet try to not veer onto the Linday Lohan or Britany Spears path, and to hear people wishing that on her, even jokingly, has to hurt a bit.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
IMHO, if it shouldn't make a difference to anyone but them, perhaps they should rethink the publication of the photographs in an international magazine. No? They put them out there for the world to see, and that makes it the business of the viewers. Otherwise, stick the darn things in a set of frames and put them on the living room wall.

And I'm sorry, but I do think they are sexualized. I think they are creepy photographs and they look like lovers, not father and daughter. There are millions of poses that could have been chosen by the photographer for a nice father-daughter shoot that are not suggestive.

YMMV.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
It's perspective and also the baggage we all carry with us regarding our own experiences.

I was molested by a man when I was a tween (not my father). But my best friend from junior high school and high school, and her sister, were repeatedly raped by their father. She didn't tell me until I was in college. And as an educator, I know many girls sexually abused and its most often by a male in the family. I've never heard of a single case of sexual abuse by a woman in the family. I know it happens, but statistically, sexual abuse is most often done by men. I'm sure that does color my perception of the photograph, but the bottom line for me is it a pose I would have been comfortable with as a teenager with my dad and the answer to that is "Hell, no!"

P.S. We ARE a touchy-feely family, FWIW.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I'm surprised, really, that people would think Ms Liebowitz was some kind of sovereign with these pictures. As I said earlier, Mr Cyrus has been in this business a long time and he knew exactly what was going on--and, if he thought the poses were inappropriate, he should have told his daughter to stop. But instead, we got the "scandalous" (I thought they were actually less scandalous than those with Mr Cyrus) pictures of her bare back, etc. Mr Cyrus was at the entire session and, by all accounts, said nothing.

Look, I could walk past Miss Cyrus three times today and never know it was her. I have only seen her on The View and on the Oscar red carpet, so she means nothing to me, except that she struck me as a rather typical (which is to say annoying) 16 year old. But it's my feeling that the people around her are not serving her well.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I agree that her Dad has the ultimate decision making power in this situation. However, I can say that it is quite astonishing what a regular pro photographer can convince people to do by calling it artistic much less someone as renowned as Liebowitz. She definitely has an influence. I'm sure she told them that posing this way was a great idea.

I also agree that we view these pictures (and pretty much everything in life) differently based on our life experiences.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
But what the *$&% has Rupert done to his face? IT looks like very bad plastic surgery and bad air brushing. I wouldn't even recognize him as the same person.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Whoever that Rupert person is, his after picture (if his eyes were closed) looks like a cadaver. <shudders!>

Holly
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07-22-2001

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Really, who is he anyway?

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
He's a British actor. Been in a lot of US films though.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
I only knew they were father/daughter because you guys told me so, I wouldn't have recognized them otherwise. They look like lovers to me.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
Heidi Klum's three kids will soon have a new sib: the supermodel and her husband Seal, 46, are expecting a baby in the fall, sources confirm to PEOPLE.

This latest addition to the Klum clan – Leni, 4 (whose dad is Italian businessman Flavio Briatore), Henry Günther, 3, and Johan Riley, 2 – shouldn't come as too much of a surprise. Klum, 35, herself has hinted that she might still want more kids. "So many people say, 'I am so done.' That hasn't come out of my mouth, and it hasn't come out of Seal's mouth either," she told Redbook magazine last July. "I feel like we still have one coming."


Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 2:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I agree Hermi. Mr. Foxx is a grown man. He shouldn't have said those things about Miley. I'm sorry, but comedy shouldn't include minors.

As to the boyfriend living in the home. It doesn't mean he's in her room. From what I understand, Miley has her own suite. The boy could be on the other side of the house.

While I personally feel the pictures were a bad idea (not good judgement), I do think the Cyrus family has already addressed the issue of the pictures. What happened in the past, has nothing to do with what Mr. Foxx said.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 3:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
The pictures never did bother me.. wouldn't have happened with my family but we were not touchy feely.

I think they are just really comfortable with each other, as are other families, like the Osbournes..

But while I may not agree on that subject, Jamie Foxx's statements had nothing to do with that.. and I'm REALLY tired.. this is twice in one week a grown man has played the "oh I'm sorry I said that, blah blah (meaning they are doing DAMAGE CONTROL), BUT <shrug> I'm a comedian.

Yeah, right..So is Joan Rivers but she isn't cut slack for her comments..

I have no idea who Rupert is and no desire to know.

A new baby seal will be nice :-)

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 3:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Jessica Lange was on Ellen today. Her 60th birthday is Monday. She said she does NOT like getting older. Doesn't like this 60th and didn't like 50th either. She's honest about it. (So reason for the not-so-good "work" done -- photo upthread.) When she walked on stage I noticed a bandaged finger (skin color - not white). Much more . . . . She said about five weeks ago she fell 8 feet off a porch / balcony at home. She knew the railing needed / was being repaired. She put just a very little weight on it and it gave way. She fell onto a water pump below and broke bones, etc. Still quite sore and uncomfortable. So because of that and her years, she looked very much her age today.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
But while I may not agree on that subject, Jamie Foxx's statements had nothing to do with that.. and I'm REALLY tired.. this is twice in one week a grown man has played the "oh I'm sorry I said that, blah blah (meaning they are doing DAMAGE CONTROL), BUT <shrug> I'm a comedian.

Yeah, right..So is Joan Rivers but she isn't cut slack for her comments..


exactly!!

and imho, children (even actors/ones in the spotlight) should be off limits. they are children.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 4:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Agreed about children. And just because it is a child in the public.. nope, still off limits (IMO, of course).

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Jamie Foxx has a 15 yr old daughter. Wonder how he'd feel if someone said that about her ...

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Jamie did sound contrite on Leno, and he's a great talent, so I'm happy to move on and forgive this one. He was so amazing in Ray. Sounds like they were all caught up in the moment on the radio show--I'm not a fan of shock radio, who listens to it anyway?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 9:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Ladytex.. well if the person was a comedian...

He did sound contrite, but then he added that caveat, as if him being a comedian made it understandable somehow.

I'm not so forgiving. Being amazing in Ray (which he certainly was) doesn't buy him pass from me.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, April 17, 2009 - 5:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Sea, that was sort of my reaction when I saw the apology too. I thought 'wow, he really seems sincere and got it' but then when he started to rationalize it away, it lost some if it's sincerity.

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Friday, April 17, 2009 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    

quote:

and imho, children (even actors/ones in the spotlight) should be off limits. they are children.




Then stop pimping your children out for a meal ticket.

As parents, if you put them out there for them to make money, then you better expect to hear negative things about them.

In the thread above, people had said that Miley made some mistakes in the past and it should be put in the past.

Jamie Foxx made a mistake, made an apology, so shouldn't this, too be put in the past?

My belief is that the "Powers That Be" are milking on this to create more controversy and keep Miley's and Billy Ray's names in the media to make more money.

I'm sorry, I think child acting is a form of child abuse. The parents put that child out there, love all the money and attention coming in, but goodness gracious when someone says something negative about them and then they cry foul.

This thing is way overblown, imho.