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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 7:22 pm
Pamy I saw the clip of Jermaine again and he mentioned Allah, so I'm thinking Jevovah's Witness doctrine wasn't in play at all..
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 7:25 pm
Elvis- enabled Anna Nicole- enabled Michael Jackson-enabled
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 7:27 pm
Sea...did he say Allah, or Our Love? I've been trying to figure that out.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 7:41 pm
I didn't believe the allegations about him. He was a tortured soul who tried to go back and remain a child. He made some bad choices, but I don't believe he would hurt anyone. He was too gentle.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 7:52 pm
I didn't believe the allegations, either. I thought that DA had some kind of agenda that was less than truthful. I also felt that he was very misunderstood because his life was so different than anyone else could ever imagine. And people took his eccentricities and gentleness and shyness the wrong way. I watched an officer outside his gate earlier tonight, and everything he did in front of the press he could and should have done behind the gates. He paraded around, passing out his card, keeping the press waiting for a statement, all the while knowing he was on camera. It just struck me. I didn't like it.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 8:09 pm
I didn't believe the allegations either. Dug out my old vinyl Thriller and listened. Very sad. I wish the media tonight had talked more about his talent, showed more singing and dancing, and not so much about the alleged misconduct.
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Buffy
Member
07-13-2005
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 8:20 pm
Beekind, I just watched the video and I believe Jermaine said, "May Allah always be with you, Michael. Love you."
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 8:28 pm
I'm pretty sure that Michael had converted to Islam.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 8:31 pm
I DO believe those things happened and at the same time I really think Michael never meant to harm and never understood that harm was done. And I agree, LT. He was a tortured soul who tried to go back and remain a child. He made some bad choices, but I don't believe he would hurt anyone. He was too gentle. I believe he was sadly enabled in so many ways. On the part of Larry King (or.. I think itwas Anderson Cooper, actually)I watched tonight, I liked Rev. Al Sharpton much better than earlier, you can really see the depth of his sadness. At 9pm pacific/midnight eastern there will be on CNN two hourse, starting with Larry King, live, which will include more participants. ==================== And I'm still choked up.. KCAL 9 managed to cover Farrah's passing and OMG.. Ryan O'Neal and Alana Stewart were leaving St John's, where she died overnight, in separate cars and they each had their window down.. a newsperson asked Ryan how she was doing and he so quietly said "She'd gone". My throat just closed up, painfully, whew.. quite a contrast, because, of course they've known this was coming for Farrah and they had the priviledge of accompnying her as she transitioned. Made me sad for them and for Farrah, of course, but made me reflect on Michael's family, being called those who could do so rushing to the hospital but he was already gone and of course had been "worked on".. not peaceful, not being able to help him or just be with him and of course they had to be so sad, confused, angry. My dad and I always regretted not staying with my mom her last night (not that we knew it was to be that, but we both thought of staying that night) and so I made sure that I WAS there with my dad when he slipped away. So my heart breaks for the Jackson family. They also reported that Michael practiced/rehearsed for the tour just last night, at the Staples Center, so certainly he had no idea of what was to come today.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 8:40 pm
Buffy, thank you. I didn't realize they had converted to Islam. Poor Jermaine, just seemed crushed.
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Babyruth
Member
07-19-2001
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 8:44 pm
I watched the ABC special with Barbara Walters and could not BELIEVE that they showed a photo (obtained from ET) that someone took of Michael's face while he was (dead) being loaded into the ambulance. WHAT creep took that?!?! And why did they show it on ABC?? I also recorded and watched the NBC special and found it much much better quality in general. Much more comprehensive of his life and less salacious in tone. I am also one who never believed the sexual allegations against Michael. I agree with Pamy.
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Babyruth
Member
07-19-2001
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 8:45 pm
I heard that Jermaine converted to Islam but Michael did not, he followed God in his own way.
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Buffy
Member
07-13-2005
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 8:47 pm
You're quite welcome, Beekind.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 8:54 pm
Thanks for the critique of the shows Babyruth. I think I'll skip ABC's if it was more salacious than NBC, which had more than enough for me. I mostly watched NBC and found it fairly well done, also flipped to CNN and found some good stuff there. CNN also showed the photo of Michael on the strecher with breathing tube. So tacky to show that. So tacky to take that photo.
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 8:55 pm
I watched only the Barbara Walters Farah Fawcett special tonight. Thought that it was very well done, and liked that most of it had been put together last week prior to Farah's passing today. The one exception was part of the interview with her doctor, who was helpful in giving an update as to the last moments, and also was moving in that he, who seemed so calm and professional, was finally moved to almost tears when asked her last words to him: "Thank You." PS Can't believe what I read above re the Michael Jackson death photo. Are there just NO boundaries or even taste anymore? It seems not.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 9:04 pm
I watched YouTube and discussed it with someone who shared that period of my life. I didn't expect anything worthwhile from the television.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 9:05 pm
They showed that same picture of Michael on CNN, on Larry King (he congratulated whoever snapped the pic) and on Anderson Cooper. No boundaries You can guarantee that picture will be on tabloids too. Remember that the second hour of ABC is about Farrah.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 9:11 pm
I watched both ABC's (BW) and NBC's shows re Farrah. I am NOT a BW fan. I can't believe some of the unnecessary and stupid questions she asked. BW, you're at the bottom of the hill -- still.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 9:14 pm
I like BW, so I'm going to not watch that show. Don't want to hear her asking dumb stuff (because I know she's capable). Why on earth would Larry King congratulate whoever took that horrible, insensitive photo? Doesn't Micheal deserve any dignity? Shameful.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 9:22 pm
Watched the montage of his videos on MTV. Came across this and became royally pissed: http://mashable.com/2009/06/25/perez-hilton-michael-jackson/ I refuse to copy it, but it's a cap of Perez Hilton's blog where he had a photo of MJ commenting that he was lying and trying to get attention. This comes on the heels of that toad's twitters for attention claiming that will.i.am assaulted him and then calling will.i.am a f'ing f** Why do people read him and keep him working? What kind of people enjoy this little twerp?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 9:28 pm
I stopped clicking on any link of Perez Hilton's long ago.. don't like his site and even my computer would almost always freeze up anyway.
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Msbullwnkl
Member
08-16-2005
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 9:31 pm
Ladytex- I saw his original post that he edited after it was announced how serious Michael Jackson was. I was apalled by it, and mostly because he has been in the news lately. It was insensitive and uncalled for. Many people have been calling him out about it on Twitter, including some celebrities. I couldn't believe he had the guts to wrtie something like that. What an a**!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 9:44 pm
i can't stand Perez, but he wrote that when the story first broke. i can't say when i first heard MJ collasped, i didn't think it was alot like when he kept rushing to the hospital during his trial. there had been talk about problems on the tour before it even started. that made more sense than him having a heart attack.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 9:54 pm
And who is Perez Hilton? A no talent nobody. He shouldn't even utter the name of someone like Michael Jackson.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 10:06 pm
Gah! I have a dual disc greatest hits package of MJ, and the second disc is a DVD with his performances at Motown 25 special, the Beat It and Thriller videos, etc. But I can't find it! And I would SO much rather watch it than this coverage about how odd MJ was, how much cosmetic surgery he had, and whether he molested children. They can't stop dogging him even in death.
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