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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 11:45 am
Twiggy,I think if it had happened to a regular non famous family, there would have been a formal autopsy and the body would not have been released within 24 hours. I know a friend of mine her husband died of a heart attack and the death certificate wasn't issued for four months pending toxicology and other results. My husband's death certificate was not issued for two weeks and his cremation was after his funeral not before. I just think that because John Travolta is so refered there is this outrage about anyone deigning to ask questions. I find it worth commenting about on a message board but that certainly doesnt mean I would write him a letter and say, John -- whats that all about? If a child died as a result of not being able to get a blood transfusion due to their parents religious beliefs, I would comment on that too. Parents can make tragic mistakes and still love their children, as was posted above about the mother whose baby died in the bathtub. If their son would have benefitted but their religion prohibited them from acknowledging the real diagnosis, then that is what is truly sad and tragic. It is worth commenting on in my opinion.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 11:52 am
my mother died in her sleep.(wasn't sick a day in her life!) she was buried 3 days later. no autopsy was even done (still boggles my mind), they just called her doc and he said she had a history of mild hypertension and that was the ruling. we didn't know the autopsy wasn't done till we picked up the death certificate about 10 days after her funeral.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 11:55 am
Autopsies are EXPENSIVE and a family that doesn't want to pay for one, shouldn't have to.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 12:07 pm
usually when there is an unexplained/sudden death, it's mandated by law; that's why i was so surprised one wasn't done with my mom.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 12:09 pm
I find it interesting to see the difference in how people handled/talked about the death of Anna Nicole's son vs the death of John Travolta's son. I don't see anyone here "picking on" the Travolta family much at all, just asking a few questions, and yet some people seem like they (the Travolta's) are being majorly attacked.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 12:31 pm
exactly my point Julie
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 1:00 pm
nah, i felt the same with poor old Anna Nicole too! LOL but i think the media is making as big a circus out of this as they did her death. thankfully, the family isn't feeding into it like hers did.
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Zgoodgirl
Member
08-22-2003
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 2:35 pm
I agree to a point that it is not our business at all. What I do have a problem with is the fact that there is no linking Kawasaki to seizures. Also there is no connection to it and any kind of mental disorder which this child clearly had. J/K or their reps have not said if his mental condition and seizures coincide with Kawasaki, but they have not corrected it. The media has latched onto a disease that he had years ago, and probably has been cured of it, and trying to link it with his death. I have a problem with that. It is very misleading to the public, especially to parents who might have a child recently diagnosed with Kawasaki. Even though I totally blame this on the media, I think if I were the parents I would try to get the story straight. Wouldn't it be better if you could at least take this as an opportunity to educate others, or get more research on what your child actually died from, than having parents of children with Kawasaki, seizures, or some MHMR condition worry and wonder what could possibly happen to their child? I'm actually surprised that Scientology hasn't been a bigger subject on this matter in the media. I know that if it was Tom and Katie, the media would have locked onto it subject like a pitbull.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 3:52 pm
i think the parents are occupied with other stuff right now rather than worrying about the media.
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 4:02 pm
I don't understand this 'J/K should be educators.' Anyone who wants info on Kawasaki or Autism can google it, and find far more info than J/K could possibly convey. No one 'demands' that everyone on this web site who has had a family member with a medical condition educate everyone here about it. I can understand not wanting to share, because most people are really more interested in judging than 'learning' when it comes to complex and poorly understood medical conditions. I can just imagine what people would say if they openly shared his symptoms/treatments.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 4:04 pm
Who is saying that the Travoltas should be educators?
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 4:15 pm
Why do you ask? Trying not to get personal, here. If you read thru the thread, you will see.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 4:18 pm
Well I was just curious as I did not see anything anywhere about the media or anyone saying that they should educate anyone.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 4:20 pm
Oh wait, I see, you are talking about a specific post here. Well, that is more or less a hypothetical statement and I really don't see a lot of people or the media pushing the Travoltas to educate anyone...
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 4:22 pm
One thing I did hear that seemed confusing to me was that they said Jett "caught" that Kawasaki syndrome from carpet cleaning fumes. Can you really "catch" that disease? (I heard it yesterday on Inside Edition.)
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 4:25 pm
Here is the response that Jeremy Piven got when he shared his recent mercury poisoning diagnosis ... Mamet expressed skepticism at the unusual diagnosis. "I talked to Jeremy on the phone, and he told me that he discovered that he had a very high level of mercury," Mamet told newspaper Daily Variety. "So my understanding is that he is leaving show business to pursue a career as a thermometer." yahoo link Nice.
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 4:40 pm
Kawasaki is a very rare disease, but Cornell University, I believe, has found a statistical link to chemical carpet cleaner exposure. John Travolta has said that he cleaned Jett's carpet obsessively when he was an infant (with good intentions, I'm sure). So they believe that the two, in his case, are linked. My understanding is that there is a large variation in people's detoxification capabilities. This is why some people can eat a ton of sushi and never get mercury poisoning, or smoke 2 packs a day and outlive most of the rest of us. Jett may have genetically had less ability to detoxify carpet cleaning chemicals than most -- had a large exposure with all of the cleanings -- and they overwhelmed his system and triggered the Kawasaki disease. (Mind you, I am not trying to 'diagnose,' just sharing my understanding of the theory and their belief.)
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Retired
Member
07-11-2001
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 4:50 pm
From the Vasculitis Foundation Kawasaki Disease I have Wegener's Granulomatosis.
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 4:53 pm
Jeremy Piven’s ‘Sushi Defense’ Derided by Castmates, Explained With Jeremy Piven back on the West Coast recovering from a near-fatal spicy-tuna-roll overdose, the other cast members of Speed-the-Plow took to the stage this weekend for their first Piven-free performance. "I'm sure you've read the headlines about the silliness in our show," Raul Esparza told theatergoers after a performance, before adding: "Today was the first time I really enjoyed playing this show. I hope you weren't expecting a big TV star." Oh, snap! But just when you thought Piven was going to become a pariah forced to endure nothing but derisive scorn from his peers, the marginally talented babe magnet Fisher Stevens weighed in to defend Piven during an interview with Page Six. "I believe him. His numbers are off the charts," said Stevens, who himself claims to have suffered from mercury poisoning earlier this year after eating an inordinate amount of fish while producing a documentary on dolphins [!]. While we appreciate Stevens's refusal to pile on, we still aren't clear on how exactly he managed to get ahold of Piven's medical charts. Either way, we look forward to the inevitable cover of People magazine where gushy editors detail how Piven is serving as a role model for other habitual sushi consumers also struggling valiantly against the vaguely irritating disease of mercury poisoning to hit the newsstands. 'vaguely irritating'????
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Retired
Member
07-11-2001
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 5:07 pm
From the Kawasaki Disease Foundation Link
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 5:33 pm
from Lisa Marie Presley's blog... Tuesday, January 06, 2009 Now Is Not The Time. I wished I could be writing you under happier circumstances but I cannot because Two of my very good friends, (John and Kelly Travolta ) the sweetest people in the world have just encountered the worst possible tragedy a parent could be forced to endure, the death of their son Jett. My heart is crying and bleeding for them. I personally would not have it in me to bury my own child. I am writing this because I have noticed that for the most part, people and the media have been very sympathetic and respectful, but there are those certain ones that want to use this horrible tragedy as an opportunity to once again, blame and or attack Scientology? Folks, as popular as it has been to discriminate and ridicule Scientology and Scientologist's in the recent past , Now is NOT the time. I realize that there is a lot of mis information out there about the subject which has caused a lot of stone throwing but we are not still in the dark ages and it is still an Unconstitutional Injustice to partake in and encourage such condemnation. Among most of the crazy made up garbage that goes around about it , It is not true that Scientologist's "Don't believe in " medical care , medicine or medical Doctors and that may have something to do with this terrible tragedy. Just like anyone else, If one is sick , they go to the doctor, If a medication will make it better then they take it. If they don't then they are an idiot and you can't blame their religion. Whatever medical and or physical condition Jett had , I can tell you first hand that his parents were on a tireless, never ending quest to get and provide him with the absolute best care anyone could ever ask for and need, Medically, physically, emotionally, medicinally and spiritually. I am not writing this to preach my beliefs, I am here to protect my friends. To the few of you out there that this may apply to, Let's not use the tragic death of a child to facilitate your insatiable need to attack and destroy Scientology shall we? John and Kelly have done nothing but spend their lives and their time helping others, making people happy and making peoples lives better. Please let this family grieve in peace. ~LMP http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=42291868&blogID=461897430
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 6:13 pm
Jennifer Garner and Husband Ben Affleck Welcome a Baby Girl
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 6:26 pm
Oh that's nice to hear! They seem like such a nice couple.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 6:37 pm
Oh, man their first daughter is so adorable, all smiles and dimples and sunshine, I can't help but being happy they had another. Good for them.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 6:38 pm
Well, they have a Violet and the new twins have taken Rose and Tulip...so what's left?
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