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Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 5:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
I have read a couple news reports that said he was found half naked in the closet with the cord around his neck and his genitals. What an embarrassing way to die. Whatever happened to good old-fashioned ... oh, never mind.

I am sorry to hear of his death. He was a very good actor, and I loved Kung Fu, saw it in first run as an adult.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 7:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
in that type of sexual act is there a partner involved is the person able to do it alone? This is very sad way to die. I was just thinking that a partner could possibly be charged with some type of murder charge

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 7:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
The person does it alone.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
The person CAN do it alone but, as you can see, it's very dangerous, so definitely NOT advisable, I guess. That's how Michael Hutchence from INXS died. And he was one very sexy man who had his choice of women! Go figure.

And Kevin Nealy was shown doing it (with a full, hangman's noose no less, LOL) on last season's Weeds.

I don't get why there was rope around Carradine's genitals though . What is that about? Anybody?

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
This form of death was also featured on Six Feet Under.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 8:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That would be embarrassing (though of course he isn't around to be embarrassed). I'm sorry he died and I'm sorry he died that way. If it was the result of some sort of sex act, I'm still sorry it happened.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 9:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
I'm sorry about this too. I also loved Kung Fu. Saw Carradine at a fan convention I was covering, where he was signing autographs. Word had it that he was pretty drunk or stoned while he was there.

Isn't Bangkok Thailand a sex-resort city where men go on vacation for those types of 'off the charts' thrills. I'm betting that there was a 'paid' accomplice to this sexual joy-ride and they left when it went very wrong.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 9:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Bangkok is indeed renowned for being able to get any sort of sex you want to pay for. But I tend to think (IF that report is true) there would have been no accomplice (or he would not be dead), and the report of accidental death is true. It is just too bad that the whole rope/cord thing got leaked.

Now, there's an existential question for us all. If you are going to be found dead in a hotel room in a foreign city, is it better to be thought a suicide or accidental death by auto-eroticism?

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 10:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Carradine was filming a movie in Bangkok. That's how they knew something was wrong. He didn't show up for dinner the night before, and when he didn't come to the set in the morning, they went to the hotel. The maid let someone from production in and he found the body.

One of his PR people put out a statement that it was "accidental". There will be more information leaking soon, I'm sure.

Wild world, isn't it?

Chaplin
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01-08-2006

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 10:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chaplin a private message Print Post    
Mame if it was the same con I was at with David Carradine as guest he was plastered and very likely high. He was drinking when signing it was later found out. As a matter of fact he was a security nightmare at that con. He was scheduled to sign for 2 hrs that day and 1 hr into the signing he jumped up, threw the table over, swore at all the attendees (Kids in attendance were scared and shocked as were attendees) and then ran up the escalator with security at his heels. They radioed security on the floor above as he was acting very erratic. A bunch of us con com were detailed into security personnel for a short time till he either calmed down or was asked to leave if needed. He then ran around up on the main floor for a while and then threatened to jump off the top of the down escalator which was not running (since the autographs were at the bottom of it) where I and another security person where guarding. He looked very suicidal. Anyway we got him calmed down finally and then he just left the convention as he said we were all a bunch of losers. No one knew what precipitated his bad behaviour. We conjectured it was the alcohol and or maybe drugs as well. He comes from a long line of alcoholics also and quit and started many times. I have a feeling when an autopsy is done and it will be most likely that there will be alcohol in his system if not more.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 5:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Any way you look at it the man had some serious issues. Juju, as to your question I'd rather be known for going by suicide than going by freak sex act (although I suppose there could be something said for going while you're having your own brand of fun). Either way is sad as hell, though. You either died by yourself because of yourself or you died by yourself doing yourself.

I guess I'd take none of the above.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 5:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
It is sad that this happens. In the case of my friend she arrived home with her little boy. She said to him "Go find your daddy." When the little boy came back he said. "He is in the basement but he won't talk to me." The mother found her husband hung to death. He liked to do ashphyxiation when having sex with her. They used a pillow It is supposed to make a better orgasm. She was 6 months pregnant with their second child.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Dog, oh that is just heartbreaking.

For insurance purposes isnt it better to die accidentally than suicide?

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
Why don't we wait until all the facts come out - if they do - because right now we don't know if it was either suicide or an accident- it could have been something else for all we know - as his wife passed along through his friend on Larry King last night, EVERY REPORT RIGHT NOW IS JUST RUMOR - individual police have made statements but no official report has been released and there are conflicting points in stories all over the internet ... (naked vs half naked, the door being locked from the INSIDE but then the maid let them in (if it was locked from the inside i would think someone besides a maid would break the lock) and there is some small talk of foul play) - none of which we know is real or not right now.. all we do know is he is dead and that in itself is a tragedy.

Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 7:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
Over here in my world I prefer to think he died from the, "Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique".

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 7:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That must have been it, Biloxi!

Tess
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04-13-2001

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tess a private message Print Post    
I loved him in Kung Fu also and never missed an episode. I cannot speak to the nature of the hanging but I can say with deep sadness that the first I'd ever heard of the type which is being speculated in this case was way back in the 80s. The fifteen year old son of a prominent family in our parish was found hanging in his closet the same way. I was a crushing blow for the family and our entire community as well as a wake up call.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Chappy, yep that was the con. I didn't know how bad it got with his temper tantrum. I just saw him signing autographs, but I was busy doing interviews with some of the other celeb guests and thankfully missed out on all the crazyiness. Not surprised tho. Cuz when I requested an interview with him in the press room, they said he was pretty blotto, moody, and uncontrollable, and it wasn't very likely.

I agree with Legalboxer that the circumstances of his demise are pretty much all unsubstantiated rumour at this point in time. It will be interesting to see what they ultimately determine really happened. It's too late for him to be embarrassed, but I feel awful for his wife, and family.

Sia
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03-11-2002

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sia a private message Print Post    
As sad as it is, sometimes it's the death of a celebrity that brings public awareness to an important issue. Look at the case of Natasha Richardson: people are taking head injury much more seriously as a result of her tragic story. If there is a lesson to be learned from Mr. Carradine's death, perhaps people will take away the realization that no momentary thrill is worth the price of one's own life.

Even if that isn't why the man died, the circumstances shrouding his demise at least bring awareness to the dangers of attempting near-asphyxia, whether alone or with a partner.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Unfortunately, to some it may sound like something they might want to try.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Latest RUMOUR I read on Facebook, is that his hands were tied, which if true, means someone else would have to have been with him at the time.

I also wonder, if his sexual thrill-seeking was due to his age 72 and probable impotence.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 2:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Mame...I don't do FB, so don't clearly understand it. Hoping you can fill me in.

WHO put that rumour up? Does it have any merit? Where does info like that on FB come from?

As for his age...my neighbor is about that age and rather proud of his sexual abilities. Unfortunately, I hear about it more than I care to, but he likes to brag. Oddly, he's into a lot of yoga, kung-fu-ish stuff like Carradine was. I don't think he does the asphixiation bit, though, or I'm sure he'd be bragging about that, too. LOL

Oh, and he makes sure to say he doesn't use Viagra. Ha!

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 3:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Beeky, some folks were discussing it on Facebook, and it seemed credible to me, so I passed it on, making sure that it's crystal clear to everyone that it's 'just a rumour'.

I can't begin to explain the ins and outs of Facebook. It took me days and days to figure my way around it myself, last year. BUT now I can't imagine going without it. I'm as addicted to it as I am to this place. :-) For me, it was about trial and error. (Sometimes I have comprehension problems.) But I certainly do encourage you to try it though. I'm pretty sure you will enjoy it.

And LOL about your robust neighbour! :-)

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 4:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Re Carradine's family, I had totally, completely forgotten that Martha Plimpton is a Carradine (David was her uncle, maybe Keith is her dad?). She gave a statement yesterday about how her Uncle David was the force who kept her family together.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 4:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Beek, his ex-wife stated as cause in their divorce papers that he engaged in "devious and potentially dangerous sexual behavour" so I think there's no doubt that's what he was into. Also, according to police reports, they're now mentioning foul play as his hands were tied behind him and there was a footprint on the bed that wasn't his. I think someone else was there and when it went wrong, they bolted.

Btw, from what I can gather that divorce was a good long while ago. His current wife is also much younger (as was the one quoted above) and both are quite beautiful.