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Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
I could go for that Beek...(specialy because I eat or drink niether,LOL)...but I understand what you are saying....
People should go back to baking and cooking at home....(ok,ill get in trouble for that)...
going out, drinking, smoking...I would say are luxury's and maybe taxed.... but I dont know the answers....Im glad Im not the king of this stuff..... Id loose my mind for sure.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
LOL, Chew. I don't drink much soda or eat much candy either. But I would definately consider them luxuries and items which cause health issues.
I would just be curious to know how that sort of tax might be received.

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
Well I already said I like to have a couple glasses of wine in the evening.. I personaly wouldnt mind if they taxed it... I do consider it a luxury.. and if worse case scenario I had to choose to eat or drink....Id prob eat...but Id miss my wine..

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Beek, I wouldn't have a problem with that. As long as the basic necessities of food were not taxed. The problem would be to figure out which foods/bevs were luxuries and which were necessities.

I don't have problems with alcohol taxes either (Chew, your wine is already taxed I think), and I wouldn't mind a special fee assessed to motorocyclists who won't wear helmets, altho I have no idea how to enact that one!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
If they want to add taxes on items that create health issues I think they should tax fast food (like McDonald's).

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Oh Jimmer already they took away my super size!!! Sheesh!!

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
Just as long as they dont tax beans and rice I will survive...LOL.
Karuuna, I kinda thought it was already taxed..but I seldom pay attention unless its HUGE.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - I knew that would get a response from Scooter!

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    


Dfennessey
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07-25-2004

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfennessey a private message Print Post    
I think they should tax people who don't know what snow is. Pay up Scooterrific

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
LMAO Dfen!! Oh guess what gang? Here in NY State the new budget is adding "extra" tax to "sin" foods like soda pop, any kind of "sugary" drink. I "think" they are not taxing those which are "diet" and have artificial sweeteners. While we've already had a 5 cent/bottle/can recycling tax on those items and beer, now they are going to add the recycling fee to water bottles among other things. We have a very active recycling program here with our garbage pick up. We've been recycling for paper and plastic for years and years. I guess not enough people were doing it? We fill ours up every week. I think I heard they decided to not tax iced tea and sport bottles? I'm not sure if they meant the refillable kind, which we've gone to using.

Thing is, I'm not so sure those things with artificial sweeteners should get a break if the others don't. How many people go into a fast food place and see someone order a huge fat-filled meal and then a diet drink? Are people who drink "diet drinks" more responsable in recycling their containers? Not so sure about that! Also, first they cause cancer, then they don't.

Personally, I never let my kids drink anything with artificial sweeteners when they were little and my GI doctor told me not to drink anything with it either. It sort of ticks me off because often, the only thing which will settle my GI tract is a bottle of cola (I drink caffiene-free) or 7-up type of drink. I can't drink coffee or have anything w/too much caffiene. I drink as much water as I can stand, but after a while, it makes me feel sick to my stomach and then there's the matter of having to run to the head every 10 min.!! Too much fruit juice causes a duo problem of me and the running to the "head." I know.. TMI!! LOL

Somehow, in all things, someone is going to think it's not fair to them. How do you choose and how much more taxes can we absorb before we just can't purchase anything and then that hurts people down the line from the grocery store to supplier of all the ingredients, etc., etc.! Arrgh.. too much for my small brain to wrap around anymore!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Most of this stuff (except smoking) is harmless if you don't over consume it. Some of it is arguably even good for you.

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
The tobacco industry is like a bad dog that wet in the house... backed in a corner with its tail between its legs.

Not so for sugar. Can't wait to see the lobbyists get going on these new sin taxes. Maybe Hershey's will have to pay reparations too.

We have entered an new era of bigger government. Who decides what is bad and what is good? Scary stuff.


Serate
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08-21-2001

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 4:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Oh Jimmer already they took away my super size!!! Sheesh!!

We still have Super Size here in Iowa AND they still ASK if you want it Super Sized!



I think they should tax people who don't know what snow is. Pay up Scooterrific

OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Friday, April 03, 2009 - 6:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
Gidget wrote
"We have entered an new era of bigger government. Who decides what is bad and what is good? Scary stuff"

I could not agree with you more...and its scary..another great topic for a thread Id think..

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 8:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Actually, one of my biggest beefs with tobacco is that the government actually subsidizes that industry. And that wasn't the current administration's fault. :-)

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 12:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
I am a big fan of science fiction and all too often, things that were thought fantastic become reality. And sometimes tragedy as well. Every since I had the opportunity to hear Gene Roddenberry speak (several times), I have become convinced that scifi writers are more than just visionaries. The best ones have the uncanny ability to predict the future.

1984 might have had the date wrong, but look around today and see the potential. Another of my favorites that is too close for comfort is The Sixth Day. There are more examples than I have time to quote. And most of you are familiar with them. The ones that scare me the most are the apocalyptic films that are too often too close to reality for comfort.

I am scared. Damn scared. It started with political correctness. The need to mind your words regardless of your thoughts. How far away do you think we are from the ability to control our thoughts as well? Advertising, sound bytes, spin doctors. All do a pretty good job working over the baaah people... lol the word I originally put was red dotted.

Our current economic situation. I am amazed at how many people seem surprised at the result of their personal irresponsibility. Yes I said personal. For years I would park my car at my job and marvel at the vehicles in the lot. Late model, $40K+ jobs. There were more expensive cars than big salaries. And designer handbags and trips all over the world. I could never figure out what everyone knew that I didn't. Now I know. It was consumer debt. Leveraging every last penny of your life. And now the party is over and there are all kinds of tears.

We the people... each and every one of us must be part of the solution if we are to survive. Blame and weeping and gnashing of teeth and rending of garments is merely more theatrics.


Serate
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08-21-2001

Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 3:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
We the people... each and every one of us must be part of the solution if we are to survive. Blame and weeping and gnashing of teeth and rending of garments is merely more theatrics.

BRAVO Gidget!

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 3:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
Susie Orman on Oprah's show Friday said we have to look ahead and not back on what we had but what we have now.

One of the most interesting things she said was not to pay off your credit cards and close accounts. Just pay the minimum. In today's economy the rules have changed.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
We paid all of our credit cards to 30% of credit limit, and are paying minimum due + interest. Unless we make a larger purchase, then we pay more. Trying to keep the amount due between 20% & 30% of credit line.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 1:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
SG said: "One of the most interesting things she said was not to pay off your credit cards and close accounts. Just pay the minimum. In today's economy the rules have changed."

I bet this was the sort of thing Susie Orman was referring to:

I read on another MB, where one person paid a chunk on their credit card, perhaps $1,500. Since they were moving the next month they wanted the credit available to be paying moving expenses. They were NOT maxed out on the card, just wanted to make sure the credit was there to cover the move (hard to rent a Uhaul w/o a card, for instance).

After the payment, the bank sharply reduced their credit limit, suddenly and without warning. Left with no cash in hand & no room on the credit card, they were in a real pickle.

Christy358
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07-10-2007

Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 2:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Christy358 a private message Print Post    
Anyone have a link to where she said this? I would be very interested in the line of thought. I have taken her advice in the past and would like to see this in context.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 2:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
I paid off all of our credit cards in the last year and I have had banks close accounts and reduce or credit limit because we're not charging enough! Yep, here we thought we were being responsible and apparently, it's lowering our credit score. Craziness!

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 4:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Yes, Craziness!
Yep, here we thought we were being responsible and apparently, it's lowering our credit score. Craziness!

Because that can have impact on scores for Car Insurance costs. Plus who knows what else.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 5:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
I think I might need to carefully watch how this works. Okay, my Oldest Sis passed away 2 months ago. I offered my BoA CC ($16k available) to pay for expenses, mortuary, flying her kids back to TN, flying the rest of her kids back to bury, etc. Not a whole lot of charges, perhaps $2,700. Called the bank, so they know what I'm doing.

I am deliberately NOT using the card, other than making minimum payments, so that when the Trust/Life Ins. etc can kick in, there's no activity/charges on the statement, other than my Sister's needs, & I can submit the statement to the Trust. Could take another few months even.

I'm thinking now that when I go to make the payment I better just take it in person and have a face-2-face talk with a representative. So far, neither of my cards have reduced the limits.

My other BoA CC, I was planning to pay off when my income tax refund arrives. I don't much care if they reduce the limits since I don't like having CCs hanging over my head. On the other hand, I don't want my credit affected so it lowers my Car Insurance stuff.

Would appreciate any info, as people discover it. It's like a freaking Chess Match, when nobody knows the rules.