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Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 9:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Maybe they held off on publicizing it because they didn't want reporters camping out at hospitals trying to find out who was in line for a transplant.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 3:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
poor family, first, shame on them for not donating, then should of told us sooner....damned if they do/damed if they didn't.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 4:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Texannie, it was the assumptions made that they didn't donate and then the disappointment at said assumption that had me smh.

Organ donation is, and should be, a totally private thing. It's simply nobody's business.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 6:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I'm sorry but to say "it's a shame they didn't donate her organs" is a valid opinion to share. Everyone doesn't have to agree with it. But there are too many people waiting on organ donor lists. Of course it's a personal decision, but from the facts of this case (brain death, on life support) this is exactly the kind of case where one would consider donating and would be approached to donate.

This is a very public family, living in the entertainment spotlight for generations. They even stood and posed outside of the funeral for the paps. I believe MarySea's hunch is probably spot on. Since donation is anonymous, it was likely kept quiet while it was going on so that the recipient families would hopefully be none the wiser as to who their very generous donor was. I don't agree at all that her amazing gift should have been kept private. I applaud her family for making the information public and bringing a very important issue into the discussion about her tragic death.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 6:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
One is certainly entitled to their opinions, but this poor family was critisized for not donating, and then when it was revealed they had donated, they were critisized for not telling soon enough...hence the damned if they do/damned if they don't comment.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 6:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I don't see where anyone critisized them for not reporting it sooner. Maybe other places in the media? I have not heard it anywhere on the news or anything that she even donated. So far that link to People magazine is it.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
previously there was critisicm or at least comment about why wasn't it done.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Yes, there was a lot of comment about organ donation, curiosity, even speculation. But the tone of it was not critisicm, IMO. I didn't get that feeling at all.

The media has spent so much time talking about the what-ifs around this case: what if she'd been wearing a helmet? What if she had seen those first paramedics? Been taken to the hospital sooner? They've talked about all the sensationalistic, scary stuff they can think of. I hope they will devote a bit of air time to let people know of the wonderful selfless gift her family has given by donating her organs. I don't know if ET or any of those programs have covered this.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 7:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I think that discussion was in the Hollywood Gossip thread.

I'm glad her organs were donated. My brother works for UNOS and is a big advocate for organ donation. I understand some people may be against it for personal or religious reasons, but I think being an organ donor is a wonderful thing to be.

Mack
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07-23-2002

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 8:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mack a private message Print Post    
Interesting thing about organ donation is that it isn't as easy or as clear cut as one might think. For instance, having lived in Europe during the 80's I can no longer donate blood or organs because of potential exposure to "mad cow" disease. My wife, on the other hand, has a rare blood condition that while not particularly life threatening bars her from blood or organ donation. Obviously you'd not know either of us had these conditions so outsiders might wonder why we wouldn't or couldn't donate.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 8:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Right Mack. So much has to be exactly "right" to even be a candidate. That's why I think publicity about organ donation is so positive. If a family is approached, I hope they will give it careful consideration, because it is not common for the situation to be a fit for donation.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
My mom can't donate (or even give blood) because she had Hepatitis as a young girl.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 2:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Yeah the red cross has a long list including Africa, British Isles etc.

The only time I had to withdraw from both blood/platelet donation AND the marrow donor list was for a year after having my knee surgery because they used an allograft which consisted of cadaver cartiledge. And then I aged out of being eligible to donate bone marrow.

However, I think there are certain circumstances where even a donor with hepatitis may be used for someone who is willing to take that risk (as opposed to dying, for instance).

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Natasha's lesson helps save Ohio girl

CNN article

LINK

Frootjuuce
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02-25-2007

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frootjuuce a private message Print Post    
Dan Seals died. This just breaks my heart.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 5:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
I had to look him up. I just listened to him on U Tube singing "We are One." His brother was Seals of "Seals and Croft"

Frootjuuce
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02-25-2007

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 6:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frootjuuce a private message Print Post    
He was part of England Dan and John Ford Coley back in the 70's, which was one of my favorite groups in high school. He just seemed like such a tender person...

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 6:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
I used to love I Really Want to See You Tonight.

Frootjuuce
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02-25-2007

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frootjuuce a private message Print Post    
Oh, that was a great one, Mamie...

Dan Seals was one of those singers that could make me cry easily when I heard his music. But I have to say that my fav song of his was "Bop". A friend and I dressed up and did a dance routine at a Halloween party to that song once - much to our children's dismay. It was tremendous fun.

A close second favorite was "Meet Me in Montana" that he did with Marie Osmond.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 8:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Awww, sad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKpn-GYsKSc

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZgEEFszRFc&feature=related

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU9qWR6Bosw&feature=related

He had a country career too..

For Mamie..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I01BwClpSk&feature=related

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 9:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Here are some samples of Dan Seals' greatest hits. I only recognized Bop and Good Times.

http://www.amazon.com/Dan-Seals-Greatest-Hits/dp/B000002UXC

I also recognized Everything that Glitters is Not Gold, Meet Me in Montana, and I'd Really Love To See You Tonight from Seamonkey's links.

Frootjuuce
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02-25-2007

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 11:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frootjuuce a private message Print Post    
This is another good one. It's called "One Friend".

http://www.youtube.com/watchv=oPnhSFrkpno&feature=related

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 2:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I had Bop up there too I think..

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 4:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
awww, I remember him. May he rest in peace. His beautiful songs are his legacy.

Frootjuuce
Member

02-25-2007

Friday, March 27, 2009 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frootjuuce a private message Print Post    
sorry - that link up there is not working...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPnhSFrkpno