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Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 3:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I think that's Andy Cohen president of Bravo




well, that didn't turn out very good! LOL
try this link

http://updates.absolutely.net/20080904/andy_cohen.html

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 4:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Andy has been the emcee for all of the reunion shows for the various Real Housewives shows.

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 5:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
http://www.bravotv.com/blogs/andys-blog/natasha

This may answer some questions.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 5:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I saw the photos this morning, and they (the mourners) look like a tight knit, dignified group of people. Some of my favorite actors (Holly Hunter and Alan Rickman) were among them. I hope that Laim Neeson has his friends to lean on in the coming months--he looks completely stricken.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 5:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
what a lovely tribute!



Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
There is a particularly sad photo towards the end of Liam and her mother alone at her grave. It brought moisture to my eyes.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 7:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I just ran into this photo in a totally unexpected place and thought it was so pretty of her.


Beth4freedom
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10-24-2003

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 8:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beth4freedom a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Texannie and Vacanick, for resolving the riddle of Andy Cohen, and also for posting Andy's beautiful tribute.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Beth, thanks for sharing the tribute. OG that's a stunning pic!

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Poet Sylvia Plath's son commits suicide in Alaska
WashPost


When Nicholas Hughes was in his early 20s, his father, poet Ted Hughes, advised him on the importance of living bravely.

"The only calibration that counts is how much heart people invest, how much they ignore their fears of being hurt or caught out or humiliated," Hughes wrote to his son, who committed suicide at 47 last week at his home in Fairbanks, Alaska, 46 years after Nicholas' mother, poet Sylvia Plath, killed herself.

"And the only thing people regret is that they didn't live boldly enough, that they didn't invest enough heart, didn't love enough. Nothing else really counts at all."

From the time that Plath died, in 1963, Ted Hughes had tried to protect and strengthen their children, Frieda and Nicholas, from their mother's fate and fame. He burned the last volume of his wife's journals, a decision strongly criticized by scholars and fans, and waited years to tell his children the full details of Plath's suicide.

And only near the end of his own life, in his "Birthday Letters" poems, did he share his side of modern poetry's most famous and ill-starred couple. [...]

"Child" by Sylvia Plath

Your clear eye is the one absolutely beautiful thing.
I want to fill it with color and ducks,
The zoo of the new

Whose names you meditate ---
April snowdrop, Indian pipe,
Little

Stalk without wrinkle,
Pool in which images
Should be grand and classical

Not this troublous
Wringing of hands, this dark
Ceiling without a star.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Mental disorders like BPD and depression so often run in families. I wonder if that was it? Very sad.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I love Sylvia Plath's body of work.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
His sister says in the article that he had been severely depressed for a long time.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Sorry, Tishala, I didn't actually read your link, I scrolled right past it for some reason, but after you shared, I went on a Google rampage and read a lot about him and his mother and his sister Freida.

Plath's poetry is so intense, it hurts to read it. It was also heart-wrenching to see the picture of her with her two children not long before she killed herself. You get the sense, looking at the photograph, that her smile isn't reaching her eyes, but it is easy to apply such emotions when they are filtered with the knowledge of what future events held.

I was really sad to hear that her son went down the same road.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
This is the picture I referenced above. Nicholas is the baby in her lap.



And this is Nicholas and his sister Freida.



Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
There was an article I read recently that said that there is evidence that suicide is hereditary.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 6:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Was it this one -

Suicidal Behavior May Run In Families
By Elizabeth Landau

(CNN) -- The poet Sylvia Plath, who made a name for herself through prose and poetry that conveyed a sense of depression and suicidal tendencies, famously died by asphyxiating herself in an oven in 1963.

The recent reported suicide of her son, marine biologist Nicholas Hughes, brings to light a known psychiatric phenomenon: the heredity of suicidal behavior.

A first-degree relative -- a parent, sibling or child -- of a person who has committed suicide is four to six times more likely to attempt or complete a suicide, said Dr. David Brent, psychiatrist at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.

*LINK*

and then there is this (which kinda makes me feel doomed) -

Experts ponder link between creativity, mood disorders
By Elizabeth Landau

(CNN) -- The works of David Foster Wallace, who committed suicide September 12, are famous for their obsessively observed detail and emotional nuance.

Certain characteristics of his prose -- hypersensitivity and constant rumination, or persistent contemplation -- reflect a pattern of temperament that some psychology researchers say connects mental illness, especially bipolar disorder and depression, with creativity.

There have been more than 20 studies that suggest an increased rate of bipolar and depressive illnesses in highly creative people, says Kay Redfield Jamison, professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University and author of the "An Unquiet Mind," a memoir of living with bipolar disorder.

*LINK*

In any case, I'm very sorry to hear about the passing of Nicholas Hughes. :-(

Msbullwnkl
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08-16-2005

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Msbullwnkl a private message Print Post    
Natasha Richardson's organs were donated after her death.

LINK - People magazine

Something good comes out of this tragedy...

<fixed link ~jr>

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I wish that aspect had been given more publicity. The link doesn't work for me, but I'm glad to hear that.

Msbullwnkl
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08-16-2005

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 10:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Msbullwnkl a private message Print Post    
Brenda,

Try copying and pasting this address for the article:

http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20266545_20267726,00.html

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I finally got it to work. Had to cut and paste and remove that first part. Thanks!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I imagine they had quite a bit on their mind trying to come to grips with her death, make funeral arrangments ect.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Actually, and I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but it really wasn't anyone's business whether her organs were donated. Sadly, there were many who made assumptions without knowing any facts.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 1:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Well what happened to her wasn't really anyone's business either but many people cared and wanted to know. I think it was a wonderful decision to donate.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 8:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think Natasha would want it publicized to encourage others, just as she went very public in the fight against HIV/AIDS with AMFAR after her father died of AIDS. Her public advocacy for AMFAR leads me to believe that she would want to encourage others to be donors.

Anyway, it just makes me think all the more about her and her family.