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Mocha
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08-12-2001

Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Death and Deception on the Internet
October 03, 2008 9:04 AM

By Joanna Schaffhausen, ABC News Medical Unit

How can you tell if someone is lying over e-mail or on the internet? The temptation is apparently great, and new research suggests people lie more easily over e-mail than they do with a pencil and paper.

Luiba Belkin, an assistant professor of management in the College of Business and Economics at Lehigh University, tested truthfulness in 48 MBA students. Belkin and her colleagues gave the students $89 to divide among themselves and another fictional party, who knew only that the dollar amount fell somewhere between $5 and $100.

Using either e-mail or pen-and-paper, the MBA students reported the size of the pot to the fictional party and explained how the money would be divided.

Over e-mail, students lied about how much money was in the pot more than 92 percent of the time, while those using pen-and-paper lied slightly less than 64 percent.

Something about the anonymity of the Internet appears to foster dishonesty, psychologists find.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/health_insider/2008/10/death-and-decep.html

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 8:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
Interesting....

Karen
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09-07-2004

Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 8:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
Oh, but Mocha, that article gets so much more interesting beyond your snip point. How sad!

I TVCH.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, October 23, 2008 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
That Evie story is very interesting. Makes me think all of Juju's figments are not real!!!

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 6:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
wow. I used to read an online diary of a woman named, Missy who was dying of cancer. She had beautiful posts,poetry, and music. One day she died. This was in 1997. At that time, a few message boards sprang up following her progress.
Although I looked, I never saw an obituary for her. It always makes me wonder if she was real.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 6:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I'm so...so...NOT speechless!

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Ditto Juliboo!

Holly
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07-22-2001

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 10:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Munchausen’s by Internet...love it!

I guess every board has one if they've given it a name!

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
The Munchausen by Internet term is.....amazing. <el>

Maybe people just get involved with them just as a cry for attention, for some demented false "connection" with anyone. Having that similar "condition" forces people to connect with you, which is the ultimate goal.

Well, some people are just so starved for attention, that they make up all kinds of things to get people to pay attention to them. And it's sad, really. I think you'd have to look upon them as sort of.....pathetic, and take pity on them, because they really must be living a miserable existence. First, in having to seek out false friendships and false connections, and second, because they have to live with their own lies, an they have to admit to themselves on a daily basis that people only pay attention to them if they fake some sort of drama. They essentially BAIT people into schmooping all over them. It must be a sad existence to know that people don't dote on you unless you go on a board and post a bunch of crap to bait people into falsely caring for you.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    

quote:

Feldman lists the main ways to spot a faker:

1. The user’s e-mails or posts consistently duplicate material in other posts, in books or on health-related Web site.
2. The characteristics of the supposed illness emerge as caricatures.
3. Near-fatal bouts of illness alternate with miraculous recoveries.
4. Claims are fantastic, contradicted by subsequent posts, or flatly disprove.
5. Continual dramatic events take place in the person's life, especially when other group members have become the focus of attention.
6. There is feigned blitheness about crises (for example, going into septic shock) that will predictably attract immediate attention;
7. Others apparently posting on behalf of the individual (such as family members and friends) have identical patterns of writing.




Escapee
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06-15-2004

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Wow eeyore, it's so accurate to some stuff I've witnessed it's scary.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
What's also sad is that those who flock to post back to this type really believe they're helping when they're really only encouraging a type of illness.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
There was a parent of one of the children at the preschool I worked for who we were pretty certain had Munchausen by Proxy (claimed her child was always suffering from this or that, but never had any medical evidence to support her statements). The child was the picture of health whenever he was in school, so we were all baffled.

I think it is so much easier for a person sitting behind a computer to "pull off" this Munchausen by Internet syndrome or whatever it is, so it isn't really surprising to me that it is now being discussed.

I've always wondered about the ((((((hugs))))))) offered so freely. Do extra parentheses mean that we care more than others? Does anyones feelings get hurt if they only get one pair of them as opposed to 20?

Anyways...I really DID have shingles, so don't even go there, lol! I have pictures and everything, so nyah nyah!

Serate
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08-21-2001

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
The place I first started hanging around on the internet there was this guy. We all loved him. matthew was his nick. He was one of my best "friends". He was a player. [I still don't get the falling in love on line when you've never even talked to the person on the phone or met them. I wasn't ever into that.] When all of his stories came to a head, he suddenly developed cancer, and his "friend" Jimmy would tell us all about Matthew. Then after a few months Jimmy got into trouble with a few girls - oh the player just like his friend *L* - and he had aids. Shortly after that Matthew started chatting again and he was cured. After a few years of this one girl decided she was just going to fly down and see Matthew and Jimmy. Matthew and Jimmy were the same person - which we had all guessed. What we hadn't guessed was - Matthew/Jimmy was a girl. *L*

I don't give (((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))). That's not how we did hugs where I first started chatting online. It was *hug* and I have done it on here and been questioned about it. I don't feel comfortable doing the (((((( )))))) thing as I have no idea how many (((((( ))))) to do. So if I hug I *hug*

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
The internet is a fascinating untapped area for social psych/sociological research. Seeing the various patterns and cultures created on different message boards. It makes me think of that because of that whole "how many brackets" question. How many brackets does someone have to give you, before you feel their "internet hugs" are sincere? I'm not saying I've never given internet hugs, but it's interesting that they are so common, and I wonder why some people give them so freely, while others are more reserved. I wonder about the differences in people in real life. Are they really huggy people in real life?

I don't think people realize the scientific fodder out there to be researched in the chat/discussion board communities! As a psych major, it does sort of intrigue me. A whole new medium for the manifestation of peoples' psychoses.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I can't feel a hug if it's written, nobody can. I know that it is just a way to communicate feelings over the internet, but I would rather someone take a minute and find some kind words to write.

Seems as if you can't find words, either Serate's example of *hugs* or (insert name here) would be sufficient. More than that actually makes me want to count them, just to see if one person is cared about more than others. I certainly hope that's not what is meant. I think it's a new term, Munchausen Hugging

Serate
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08-21-2001

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
I'm a major hugger in real life! And my *hug* usually is like a closing to a note or email.

Dear Huk,

Sorry you had cooties. Glad you are better now.

*hug*

serate


Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I'm only a hugger with people I've known a long time. My family is NOT a huggy bunch!

Dear Serate,

Thanks for the )))))deadly reverse hug((((( in my folder. You are a stinky Pete.

Huk


Moderator
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06-30-2002

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 1:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moderator a private message Print Post    
Let's not start picking on people for hugging incorrectly. This is criticism of TVCH posters and you are not permitted to criticize other posters here.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 1:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Internet MunchHaugging - v., giving someone an internet hug after they have posted a false illness or drama.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 1:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
(sorry moderator)

Serate
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08-21-2001

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
*makes a mental note to hug the hell outta Huk if she ever meets her*