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Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Friday, September 26, 2008 - 5:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
okay. i have to gripe. **sorry it's so long**

i am writing papers right now for my history class which is about 1945 to the present (actually we only get to clinton). anyways, the teacher who is teaching is probably in her 30s. she is well versed and seems to understand this history, after all, it is her specialty.

however, we have journal assignments for this class instead of a huge paper due at the end of the semester. not bad...at first. she then decides to have these journal assignments (only 5 of them) due all within a week of each other. okay...not too bad again.

however...<24> first...we had a journal assignment based off of good night, good luck. the assignment was about how were people affected by mcccarthyism during this time. first off, you can't show good night, good luck and ask us to say how people were affected during this time. cbs and murrow went after mccarthy and questioned everything he did. majority of middle class america wasn't even going to say anything bad about mccarthy...they would have been labeled a communist, just like murrow and everybody else was. but whatever...i wrote it.

next was a journal assignment based on leave it to beaver. lovely little show you older people had. very interesting. anyways, our next journal assignment was to show (based off of two episodes of it) how leave it to beaver was correct in the life of the 1950s and how it was not correct. first off...how the hell, after only watching two episodes, can i saw what is right and what isn't. she does point out a few things (i.e. pearl necklace, mom all dressed up, dad in a suit). however, after talking to my mom (who grew up in the 50s) besides maybe the pearl necklace, dressing in dresses and suits was somewhat of the norm during the 50s. people always dressed nice.

mind you, she does lecture on this stuff. however, take a dvd and fast forward it to 2x, and that's how fast she talks...it's unbelievable...because she wants you to know everything (stated the first day that she won't talk about anything that won't be on the test).

and then our next two journal assignments are an artwork cartoon and then a skit to be performed in class.

i'm in college. if i wanted to study art, i would have majored in art. i do not do art. i hate art.

and then skit...because i missed today...i have to do this alone and perform it alone. ha...i'm not performing a 5 to 6 person skit alone...she's smoking something if she thinks that is going to happen.

i thought i would enjoy this teacher because i have heard so many good things about her. but i don't. i cannot stand professors who talk so fast, expect you to have everything down, and then assign the most out of this world assignments. it's incredible.

okay. that is my gripe.

oh yah...and i have her for another class. she wants us to write a paper (7 to 10 pages) about a movie about the Civil War and say whether it is factual or not and what is factual and what's not. of course...the entire class is about the civil war so if enough people do bad on that paper, maybe she'll get the hint that she needs to change her damn teaching methods.

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Friday, September 26, 2008 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
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Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Friday, September 26, 2008 - 6:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
Hehe! Couldn't help myself!

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Friday, September 26, 2008 - 8:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
Beckie, sorry this teacher is getting to you, maybe you could talk to her. Look at the bright side, this term will soon be over. She is only one teacher, and she is probably not the hardest one you will face. I don't want to be too insensitive about your gripe but I think you are lucky to be in university, you could be washing dishes or a telemarketer.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Friday, September 26, 2008 - 11:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
OR, Beckie could realize she has a TREMENDOUS resource at her disposal at the Clubhouse, which is a whole bunch of old fogies who actually lived in the Leave it to Beaver days, and who watched Leave it to Beaver, and who could pretty much write that paper for her if she were to propose it in a very FUN way by starting a thread titled something like: Leave It To Beaver: Help Beckie Get an A.

And then Beckie write down what the professor wants and ask for some home truths from some folks who lived in the era. We old fogies LOVE to do homework. Especially easy homework.

Hell, if Beckie reveals her methodology in her paper, she would probably get an A for innovation.

Or, she could not reveal her methodology, in which case she will be heralded as an expert in gerontology and probably go on to become one of the worlds' top gerontologists based on her acumen as a young woman.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Friday, September 26, 2008 - 11:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
well, juju, if you would like to help or if anyone would...i could easily start a thread like that. ha.

my mom gave me some ideas and said that my teacher shouldn't talk unless she had really researched the 50s. lmao.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
next was a journal assignment based on leave it to beaver. lovely little show you older people had

OUCH!!

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    

quote:

oh yah...and i have her for another class. she wants us to write a paper (7 to 10 pages) about a movie about the Civil War and say whether it is factual or not and what is factual and what's not. of course...the entire class is about the civil war so if enough people do bad on that paper, maybe she'll get the hint that she needs to change her damn teaching methods.




I guess I'm missing what's so bad about that assignment. Unfortunately, these days, many kids see entertainment as reality and look at a movie like "Gone with the Wind" as historical fact, not fiction. Learning how to draw distinctions between fact and fiction is a key critical thinking skill.

You'd hate my classes. I have students use popular media all the time. I talked about attention and perception a couple of weeks ago, and then showed the The Mentalist youtube where a thief steals a vase while your attention is focused on the people tossing balls back and forth. Last week we talked about behavior modification, so this week its clips from Supernanny followed by an assignment to evaluate her methods based on the theory presented in class.

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Rosie
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11-12-2003

Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
I lived during the "Leave It To Beaver" time and yes, our lives were similar to the Cleavers.

My Mom was dressed up unless she was working in her garden.

I even wore pearl necklaces, hats and gloves. Females did not wear pants to school.

It was a grand time. I still think that it is a shame that following generations missed out on this way of life.

We knew what was expected of us and felt safe and secure. Oh, and our fathers were actively involved in our lives.

Does this help with the homework, Beckie? lol

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I remember dressing up to fly on an airplane!

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 3:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Mothers, who all stayed at home, wore cotton "house dresses" to do their housework in. These were usually simple, comfortable but still form-fitted dresses without a well-defined waistline. Often the mother would freshen up and put on a nicer dress and the pearls before Dad got home from work. I am not making this up.

The mother always wore an apron to cook in, to keep splatters off her dress.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 3:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
prisoner...there is nothing wrong with the civil war assignment, at all. in fact, i'm looking forward to doing it. it is just based on her lectures...because she has repeatedly told us this is not a research paper (so the movie and lectures are the only things we can use) make it very difficult to say what's right and what isn't right. i figure i would use something like that denzel washington movie where he was a slave (cannot remember the name of it)...but i figure it would be easier to do than gone with the wind...because besides the obvious...she didn't go into life of southern women very much, so...


and, yes thanks for the information guys...it does help with homework and if she marks me down saying that's not correct...i'll show her what's up. lol.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Was it Glory - the Civil War movie w/Denzel Washington and Matthew Broderick?

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Cold Mountain might work too - although it doesn't show nearly as much of the War as the others.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Hey--anyone remember the North and the South? I loved that miniseries. It was pretty long, but very good. It came out in 1985. (It's also got some Patrick Swayze up in there as a Southern soldier).

That was the golden age of the miniseries--they just don't do them justice on television anymore.

Anyway, try that one Beckie. It'll blow your teacher out of the water!!

For the 50s assignment, I love Pleasantville. Not made in those times, but very well done in terms of being visually interesting, and examining 50s values. Guess that's not Leave It to Beaver tho. I'd love to have these assignments, but I'm all artsy fartsy. :-)

North and the South IMDB entry

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I loved that miniseries!!!!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Loved those books ...

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 11:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
It was Glory, teach. I thought about the North and South movies...thought that might be interesting...just because it was a mini series and that would give me a lot to write on...and not have to do what teachers hate the most and use "fill in" words. lol.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 8:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
oh, the books were awesome too. i remember being so worried when they made it into the series that the actors would be all wrong, but they had that young undiscovered actor, Patrick Swayze, to play Orry Main and all was good.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 3:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
yah...okay...now my wonderful teacher is saying that during 1968...most people UNDER 30, supported the Vietnam War and that people over 50...did not support the war...

i really would like to get her facts...because who were the ones who died Kent State?? and who did many of the other protests during that time??? idk...maybe it was people over 30...maybe i'm just not thinking and looking at pictures properly oh vey.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 4:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
My dad says that by 1968 pretty much nobody supported the war. But that if you had to pick one group out that didn't support the war the most, it would be the under 30 crowd.

How old is your teacher?

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 7:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
I was 25 in 1968. Vietnam was a war where there was still the draft. I supported the troops, not the war. I did not support the war protesters. I disliked Jane Fonda. I prayed for the soldiers.I was anxious for the war to be over.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 9:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
serate, i'm thinking she's in her 30s...whether it is late or early...i'm not sure.

when i told my mom...she just looked at me and said...almost all of her friends disliked that war...and she was under 30 at the time of Vietnam.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 11:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Oh HELL no, Beckie!!! There were humongous protests on every major college campus in the country. There were the Beatles. There was Richard Nixon trying to deport John Lennon. There were campus riots, kids breaking into the armory and trashing it. That is a VERY simple thing to Google, I would think.

That was the era of "don't trust anybody over 30." The era of hippies, good dope, good sex, no AIDS, rock and roll, baby, and BAN the WAR!!!

It was US (baby boomers), well, the boys anyway, who were being drafted to go fight in that highly unpopular war.

Are you SURE you understood her correctly? Or maybe she mis-spoke.

That is 100%, 180 degrees WRONG.

Edit: Yep, a simple Google on Vietnam war protests brings up 483,000 hits, of which the first several dozen should give you a snapshot of what was going on.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 11:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
no, i heard her right.

three people in the class even asked her to repeat it.

this is my favorite part of U.S. history...any history for that matter and i feel i'm getting screwed with this teacher...