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Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 6:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I love both outfits, and I agree it suits both their styles.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I totally agree Huk. I haven't worn a dress since 1985 when I had to for a job. Since I started teaching I have only worn pants. I think especially on your wedding day you should wear what you are most comfortable in. When I dress up I wear a really nice pants suit.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Actually, on one Oscar show Ellen did wear the 'Swan Dress'. I tried to post it but it was too large. Maybe one of you can get it to work.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 9:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
I love that Ellen is just being herself, wearing whatever makes her happy

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I had to go look up that swan dress. I had forgotten about that. She's so great!



Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Huk, that would be the one.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 11:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I'm just asking myself if people who think Ellen should have worn a tux also think if two men marry that one of them should wear a dress? LOL. Or perhaps just a pink tux?

I can't even imagine Ellen in a dress. Nor should she be required to wear a tux. I love how feminine her outfit is and still it's a very Ellen kind of outfit -- pants!

I really appreciate the kind of role model Christina Applegate is being -- what a couragous woman to speak so openly. Wishing her the best too.

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
Los Angeles (E! Online) - Ricky Martin has shaken his bon-bon all the way to the paternity ward: The Latino superstar is now the proud father of twin boys.

The "Livin' La Vida Loca" singer 's spawn were delivered via a surrogate mother several weeks ago, his rep confirmed today.

"The children, delivered via surrogacy, are healthy and already under Ricky's full-time care," per the official statement.

"Ricky is elated to begin this new chapter in his life as a parent and will be spending the remainder of the year out of the public spotlight in order to spend time with his children."

No further details were made available, including either the tots' names or vital statistics.

There's also no word on the identity of the boys' mother.

These are the first offspring for the 36-year-old Grammy winner, who has long been an advocate for kids, devoting time to charities that work to prevent the sexual exploitation of children.

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Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
Just came in to post that.

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
I bet you were going to post the same picture too huh? Hot!!!!

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 1:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Great news for Ricky!!

And I'm admiring Christina so much, what a great, brave soul. To come out, tell her heartbreaking story when she really didn't have to.. To start a fund for other women without the $$ to be able to get the lifesaving MRI that she was able to have... shes truely a great rolemodel. I wish her only the best.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 2:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I have to admit that I was not impressed with Ellens rags. From that photo it just looks sloppy. Nobody says she had to wear a tux or a dress but for me, I look at it I think Madonna in Desperately seeking susan. Dont like the layered sloppy look. I have seen Ellen dressed up in very nice pant's ensembles, satin, whatever. I think she could have done it or either it is just a bad photo that doesnt capture the look of the outfit.

Portia's dress is gorgeous, she looked like a dresden ballerina.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 2:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
<"The children, delivered via surrogacy, are healthy and already under Ricky's full-time care," per the official statement.>

Huh? Is Rick Martin doing the same as Michael Jackson? Why???

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
you could say the same thing about Clay Aiken :-) or anyone else who uses surrogacy.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I feel sorry for all those children not having mothers who think the sun rises and sets in them. Nannys just don't cut it, nor do grandmothers. Every child deserves a mother and a father. Just my two cents.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 3:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Well Ophilia someone told me the same thing and all I can say is I have a senior in High School, its just me and him. He is well adjusted, happy, got the highest SAT score in his school. A single parent can do a great job because there are kids out there with two parents who suck, who dont love them or want them. Even though I dont know Ricky Martin or Clay Aiken I think both of them will make great parents because they value their privacy, they seem to place value on the right things.

Look at Brittney Spears and Kevin Fed. Boy those two kids were lucky having two parents!!!!

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
aha, guess I can stop wondering about Ricky now (was I the last to know?)

with respect Maris, your son did have a father most of his life. but I agree that Ricky and Clay will prob be great parents. both seem smart and self possessed and have HUGE hearts

I really admire RM for fighting against the sexual exploitation of children


Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I agree Sharinia but it touches a nerve with me when criticism is launched against single parent households when there are plenty of dual parent households which are toxic. Its about how much love, guidance and support, whether provided by one or two parents, that counts.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 5:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I completely agree Maris. I'm so tired of single parents getting slammed as a whole. My child will never know the pain of a divorce. She will never witness a drunk dad beating on her mom. She will not see two adults fighting, calling each other names. She will also not see boyfriends paraded through my house. Not all single parents are the same.

I had a great childhood with two loving parents. My child will have a great childhood with one loving parent and extended family. In a perfect world she'd have two parents. In a perfect world all children would have enough to eat and an education and loving parents. But we don't live in a perfect world.

So I say congrats to Clay and Ricky and all of the other unconventional families out there. Because what makes a family? Love.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 5:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
No Sharinia, I think I was the last to know! (Hence my post...)

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I shudder to compare Ricky to Michael Jackson. I don't put Michael Jackson in the same group as other single parents like Ricky or George Lucas. I can't even think of him in those terms because I think there's really something wrong with him.

So, why did George Lucas adopt as a single man? Well, probably because he wanted to parent children but didn't find the right woman to marry. Why did Ricky father children as a single man? Well, we can speculate all we want, but he obviously didn't find the right woman or want to find any woman to marry, but he still wanted to parent. It's not that complicated to me. Same with Clay. He wanted to parent and may never marry. This is his opportunity.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 5:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Is Clay Aiken taking "full care" of his child on his own too or is the mother involved? I was NOT comparing Ricky Martin to Michael Jackson, btw. (No need to shudder!) I just find it strange that a young, successful man like Ricky, who built most of his success on his sexual attraction to women, now wants to raise two babies on his own! Power to him and all that, but I definitely find it strange, or at the least, very different. <shrug>

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 6:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
No, I think the mother of Clays child is raising him, probably with a lot of involvment from Clay, but an untraditional arrangement or family structure.

Women may find Ricky attractive, but I'm not so sure the opposite holds. I agree that it is unusual for a man to want to parent bad enough to go it alone from the start, but there are men out there who do! And I say hooray for them.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 7:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
lol Holly

I can appreciate that, Maris. It's very true that there are countless toxic two parent households. It seems to me that most single parents cherish their children dearly and are super close to them and attentive to their needs.

So many women now are choosing to have children in the absence of Mr Right. I've often wondered why you rarely (if ever) see men doing the same ...

fwiw, here's an excerpt from RM's wiki bio

Ricky stated he was in love with Mexican TV host Rebeca de Alba with whom he had an off and on again relationship for over 14 years. They even talked of starting a family at one point admits the singer. However with the release of "Life", Martin confirmed he and de Alba had parted ways.

During the Livin' la Vida Loca era, Martin's personal life went under the microscope due to his large gay following and he was constantly questioned about his sexual orientation. Neither avoiding the questions nor answering that he is straight, seemed to stop the gay rumors. In the magazine Plus 7 Days he said: "I am a modern man, live a full life, do not feel any barriers inside myself," Ricky says. "I perceive the contemporary world as an open forum, where nothing is taboo except criminal activity. If I were gay, why not admit it? ... I am a normal man. I love women and sex. I am a real hot-blooded Puerto Rican, but have never been attracted by sex with a man."

In August 2008, Martin's representative announced that the singer was the father of twin sons via a gestational surrogate mother.


RM

Ricky Martin and ex gf Rebeca de Alba


Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
I think Ricky's involvement w/the tsunami really changed him...including his desire to not only help children but to be a parent and provide a loving home. I saw him on Oprah after the tsunami, and it was clear how deeply affected he was with the children that were orphaned, abandoned and sometimes kidnapped as a result of the devastation. This just seems like an admirable extension of that life-changing experience.