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Whoami
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08-03-2001

Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
I'd love to run a "Pool Game" (similar to the Football Pool Game we've done here in the past few years) for the Beijing Olympics.

Its a little over 3 months away (actually, the official Beijing site says 109 days to go). But, if I'm gonna run this thing, I need time to set up the charts. And, my ideas on how to run the game are in its infancy. I would love to have input/feedback on how we should make picks and do the scoring. So, for the next couple of months, we could brainstorm, as well as see how many people are even interested (if only two people are interested, it doesn't make for much of a game). It would be really fun if we could get a bunch of people in here. So if you know of anyone, send them in here, and we'll do a Roll Call kind of thing.

I'll do a Roll Call, and throw some ideas out on the table in subsequent posts, since long single posts tend to just get skimmed over or avoided! LOL.

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
ROLL CALL


Sound off and let me know you are interested.

Since its still 3 months away, I plan to remind folks when the game is about to start. Please also let me know how you would like to be reminded the game is about to start. The options are: Leave a message in your personal folder, PM you, or e-mail you. Make sure your ISP can get PMs from TVCH if you choose that option. If you want me to e-mail you, then make sure I have a current e-mail address for you by e-mailing me at the e-mail addy in my profile. Thanks!

Egbok
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07-13-2000

Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Egbok a private message Print Post    
The Beijing Olympics will be held August 8th - 24th, 2008.


I am in if you get enough players! You can remind me by email...click onto Egbok and you'll see my email addy, thanks!


Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 11:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Making Picks and Scoring



Well, if you look HERE at the competition schedule, there are a total of 302 events at this year's Summer Games (you'll see tallies of Finals listed along the bottom row of the chart, and along the right hand column). Far too many for even the most devoted sports fan to make picks on every single event. So, we need to figure out how we are going to make picks. The following ideas are just ideas, not set in stone. We can use a combination of some of the ideas, all of the ideas, or come up with something totally different. So, your input/feedback these next couple of months is critical and highly appreciated.

Ideas for Making Picks

•Pick 3 events (your choice) each day a Finals is decided.
•Pick 5 events each day a Finals is decided.
•Pick a yet-to-be-determined number of events each day a Finals is decided.

Depending on how many people we end up being interested in playing, we could even divide up into "divisions." Let's say some are really into the Olympics, and want to pick more than 3 events a day, yet many others want to play, but don't want to invest that much time into it. We could have a "Casual Division" for those who want to pick fewer events, and a "Fanatics Division" for those who want to pick more events. Of course, when the time comes, we can call the divisions something else if we want too! If we separate into divisions, then maybe the "Casual Division" can go to even just 2 events a day or something.

Another idea is, if you are really in to one sport, and could care less about any of the others, you could compete in just that sport, making picks in every event for that sport. We could discuss how far to break it down into that sport. For instance, Artistic Gymnastics have 14 total events. You could either pick for all 14 events, or perhaps just in Women's Artistic Gymnastics.

It is possible for you to play in the Casual/Fanatic Divisions, as well as in a specialized sport. All you'd have to do once your sport came up would be to let me know which events in your sport you want to have applied to your Divisional picks.

Ideas For Scoring

Here's a few ideas for scoring. We can use all of them, or a combination of some of them. Or something totally different....

•Points for picking Gold correctly.
•Points for picking Silver correctly.
•Points for picking Bronze correctly.
•Points for picking Gold, Silver, and Bronze correctly.
•Points for picking the podium (in any order) correctly.
•Pick a favorite athlete/team for the event you pick, and receive points for where they place, regardless of if its on the podium or not.

OK, before I get too long winded, and brainstorm too many ideas into one post, and end up overwhelming folks and chasing them away, I'll call it a post and see who drops by!

<waves at Eggie! Yea!!>

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
I'm interested ... contact me by email ...

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 9:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Yay! That's two!

LT, I don't think I have your e-mail addy. Could you please e-mail me to my e-mail addy in my profile, so I can add you to my address book? Thanks!

Lumbele
Moderator

07-12-2002

Monday, April 21, 2008 - 4:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lumbele a private message Print Post    
Not sure how much time I'll have during that period or how this game works, but I'd be interested in the "Casual" division.

Ketchuplover
Member

08-30-2000

Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 3:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Are we going to be seeing events live or "live"?

Msbullwnkl
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08-16-2005

Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 4:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Msbullwnkl a private message Print Post    
I may be interested in participating in this game. It will be my first time, so go easy on me!

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 5:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
I'm interested. E-mail, please.

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Yay Msbullwnkl and Bluejax! If you want me to e-mail you a reminder, please e-mail me at whoamitvch@comcast.net to make sure I have your e-mail addy.

Don't know when any of us will see the events. That's up to the networks. LOL. Deadlines for us will have to be in real time, so nobody can peek at the results.

If I read the time zones right on THIS page, Beijing is ahead of US times as follows:

Eastern Time: 12 hours ahead
Central Time: 13 hours ahead
Mountain Time: 14 hours ahead
Pacific Time: 15 hours ahead

Can someone check that page and see if I calculated correctly? Things like figuring time zones makes my head hurt sometimes. LOL.

So probably the deadline to pick a day's event should be 2 days before the event starts. ie: if an event starts on the 8th in Beijing, then the deadline for picks for that event would be midnight the 6th TVCH Board time (Pacific). That way we can make sure its not already happening over there.

I'm hoping they'll post a more detailed schedule before too long (each event, times/dates, etc). Cause if some prelims are going on in an event before I set a deadline to pick that event, it would be easier to get your picks right. So I dunno. Seems more fair to have deadlines for the event before the prelims start. So that's where a detailed schedule would really help me out. If anyone knows where to find one, please let me know.

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 8:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
So, I've been thinking about how to do this. I think there are enough scoring possibilities in picking one event, that we can just go with picking one event each day. If folks want to pick more, we can go with a more elite division.

So, in placing your picks, you would make picks for the following:

Event:
Gold:
Silver:
Bronze:
Favorite Athlete/Team:




If I were picking a team event, it might look like this:
Event: Artistic Gymnastics: Women's Team
Gold: USA
Silver: China
Bronze: Russia
Favorite Athlete/Team: USA

Or, if I were picking an event with individual athletes, it might look like this:
Event: Artistic Gymnastics: Women's All Around
Gold: Shawn Johnson/USA
Silver: Nastia Liukin/USA
Bronze: Xiao Sha/China
Favorite Athlete/Team: Chelsea Memmell/USA

Of course, you don't have to pick your gold medal pick as your "Favorite" too (as you'll see with my pick in the Women's AA Finals). You could use a little strategy and pick someone else entirely from who you picked for the podium. It might be frugal to not throw all your eggs into one basket, after all.

Scoring possibility for each set of picks would be X amount of points for picking:
Gold
Silver
Bronze
Podium (in exact order)
Podium (in any order)
Favorite Athlete/Team placement

If your favorite athlete/team doesn't make it into the finals, then you earn points on how high they placed in the prelims.

Nickovtyme
Member

07-29-2004

Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 8:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
I'd give it a shot.

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 8:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Yay Nick!

More thoughts.....

In viewing the schedule, there are several areas of competition that involve more of a tournament style of prelims, where the event is being played out several days before the finals. In that case, those events should not be eligible to pick in the day to day finals picks, cause one would already know the ranking of teams/individuals by the time the final rolled around.

So, I'd probably not include those as events to pick from in the daily picks schedule. But, if folks want to pick from those events, we could also have a Tournaments Division, and folks can also pick from there.

The events in question would be the following:
Rowing
Badminton
Baseball
Basketball
Boxing
Canoe/Kayak-Flatwater
Equestrian-Eventing
Football
Handball
Hockey
Water Polo
Softball
Tennis
Table Tennis
Sailing
Volleyball
Beach Volleyball

Redpen
Member

07-24-2003

Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 7:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Redpen a private message Print Post    
Count me in!

Ketchuplover
Member

08-30-2000

Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 7:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
I'll give it a shot too. Please contact me via my folder here. thanks. I'll probably be checking here too.

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 5:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Cool!

Just under two months away now!

So, I looked over my musings in the previous posts, and it looks like I'm trying to make it too complicated. That could chase folks away.

First of all, the most complicated part will be for me and tallying the scores. The only thing you as players need to do is make picks.

However, I think I still need to simplify this a bit.

So, when the Games get nearer, and (hopefully) a more detailed schedule of events is posted, I'll sort all the events I can find into groups; mostly according to when their finals are, and when their preliminary rounds are.

I'll label them something like Group A, B, C, etc. And the deadlines for each group will be according to when the preliminary rounds for each group starts.

Each of you players can pick as many events from each group as you want. If you choose to not play an event from any group, that's ok.

Your score for each Group will be the percentage of how many points you got, compared to how many points were possible to get.

So, lets say in Group A, each event is ultimately worth 100 points (although I'm sure it will be different once I decide how many points each guess within the event is worth). You get 70 out of 100 from one event in the group, and 50 out of 100 from the second event in the group. Your score for that group would be 60.00 (70.00 for event #1, and 50.00 for event number 2, averaged between the two scores). Lets say someone else only picked one event, and got 65% (score of 65.00). They'd end up outscoring you on average cause your average score is 60.00.

Yikes, I'm starting to make this sound complicated again! LOL.

So really, its up to you to either throw all your eggs into one basket (event), or try to even out your score by trying out a few more events from each group.

There will be a Score/Ranking list for everyone who played an event from each group, once all the events from that group are completed.

At the end of the Games, an "All Around" score/ranking list will be posted. That will be your average score from all the events you played throughout the Games.

How does that sound?

Redpen
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07-24-2003

Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 7:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Redpen a private message Print Post    
Umm, I don't know about anyone else, but however you organize this, I will play it. We players will have the easier task, just picking.

I like the idea of picking from groups.

Thank you!

Ketchuplover
Member

08-30-2000

Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 7:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
How about having a total points earned aspect of the groups in addition to average event score. Another idea is to give each group a total points played aspect ie. say there are 10 events in a group and each one has a maximum earned value of 100 points. That's 1000 points for the group. Players could put all 1000 points on one event if they so desired. Just some suggestions.
I hope I'm being clear.

Nino
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09-20-2004

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 3:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nino a private message Print Post    
Who! I'm in! I left a message in your folder a while back, asking about an Olympics game and I was also checking on your football pool game! I'm looking so forward to both football and the Olympics!! Thanks for all the work and brainstorming you do for us, Who!

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Hi Nino. Sorry I didn't reply sooner. I've just been making myself busy figuring out how to set this all up.

I've got it all done now, and am going to start posting it now.

Happy playing to everyone!!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 11:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
ok, question ... so we don't start til day 12?

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 11:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
nevermind ... you're still posting ... :-)

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
LOL LT!

OK, I think I got it all set up now. Go on in and start your picks any time you like.

I'll send out reminders to folks who expressed an interest after I've had a few hours nap. I'm starting to not see or type very straight right now.

And in the meantime, please don't hesitate to ask any questions. I'm not above making mistakes, and I often need to be set right!

Also, drag anyone on in here you find around the boards who you think might be interested in playing. I've tried to make the format as non-intimidating as possible!

Have fun!

Lancecrossfire
Animoderator

07-13-2000

Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
I'm in!!