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Dipo
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04-23-2002

Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
I remember when this happened and I still don't get why the Canadian judge should be suspended at all!!!

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 4:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Was that when both pairs got the gold? If that's the one, did they let the medals stand, or change them? I didn't know the Canadian judge was also suspended. Here's a few articles and pics.

Article: A roller coaster day for U.S. at Olympics August 21, 2008

Article: US beach volleyball queens extend reign in Beijing August 21, 2008




Article: U.S. wins Olympic Equestrian Jumping Team gold August 19, 2008




Stormie
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03-01-2007

Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 5:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Here's a couple more articles from Thursday's events.

Article Softball.TeamUSA.org: US vs Japan Softball Gold Medal Match Outcome August 21, 2008

Article USASoftball.com: August 21, 2008 Final Game Outcome

TeamUSA Softball Vid Clips & Pics



Article: US vs Brazil Soccer Match Outcome August 21, 2008

TeamUSA.org Soccer Vid Clips & Pics



Serate
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08-21-2001

Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
IOC orders investigation into He Kexin's age

Chaplin
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01-08-2006

Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 10:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chaplin a private message Print Post    
Stormie both pairs were awarded the Gold medal in the end....

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Friday, August 22, 2008 - 5:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Ya know, no matter how many times the USA is standing on the middle podium and our national anthem is played I get choked up. Am I all alone in this or does this happen to anyone else?

Kearie
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07-21-2005

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China is under investigation by the International Olympic Committee for putting underage gymnasts on its gold medal-winning Olympic team in Beijing. And now we learn that China has violated the minimum age rule in the past.

Yang Yun, who won the bronze medal in the uneven bars in 2000 (on the right in the above photo), admitted during an interview aired on state broadcaster China Central Television that she was 14 during the 2000 Games, the Associated Press is reporting.

That makes her too young to compete under Olympic rules, and if the International Olympic Committee enforces its rules properly, she will be stripped of her bronze in the uneven bars, and China will be stripped of its bronze in the team competition for using an underage gymnast. Viktoria Karpenko of Ukraine finished fourth in the uneven bars and the United States finished fourth in the team competition, and those gymnasts should be awarded the bronze.

Unfortunately, the International Olympic Committee has made clear that it will look the other way no matter how often China flouts the rules. China cheated by putting the 14-year-old Yang on its Olympic team, but sometimes cheaters do win.


Link to story

Spelll
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09-16-2005

Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spelll a private message Print Post    
Nice closing ceremonies. Fireworks as usual spectacular.

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
I do too, Twinkie. I'm tender hearted anyways. I get equally emotional w/ any athlete from any country w/ an endearing story. I love how NBC showcases many of the athletes.

They all work so hard for these medals.

Did you see Federer cry?

Chaplin
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01-08-2006

Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 1:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chaplin a private message Print Post    
I am glad Karen Cockburn carried the flag for Canada in the closing ceremonies as she won 3 medals, one in each of 3 consecutive Olympics however, deep down I was hoping Ian Miller would have been picked since it was his 9th Olympic Games and he finally won his first medal at this Olympics. It would have been number 10 if Canada had not boycotted Moscow. He was such a class act and is 61 years old and his wife just passed away in March. He wants to try and compete in London in 2012 and his daughter and son are competitive riders so there is talk the 3 of them may all try to make the team together!

Happygal
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11-15-2004

Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 2:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happygal a private message Print Post    
Didn't Ian Miller get to carry the flag a number of year's ago?

Chaplin
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01-08-2006

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I don't think so....Hmmmm Anyone else know?

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 7:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Returned this afternoon from a 4 day camping trip. DH and I made an intentional decision.. no cell phones, computers, newspapers, etc. so I only found out about our last 5 medals on the drive home. Yah Canada! I know we tend to be a 2nd week country but who isn't starting to get down by that 6th day? LOLOL

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

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I wonder how much those Fireworks displays contributed to global warming...

Chaplin
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01-08-2006

Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 9:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chaplin a private message Print Post    
Shame on me for misspelling Ian Millar's name wrong!!!!!!!!!!!

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 11:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Karen Cockburn was the WORST choice for a flag bearer. She's not even in a RESPECTABLE sport. Trampoline is a JOKE. And if we are using consecutive medals, then Emily Heymans was also a medalist in the past 3 olympics, and at least she's in a sport that is respectable.

Personally, I think Carol Hunyh should have been the flag bearer. Of Chinese descent, and the first gold for our country. AND in a real sport. Not an "event".

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Monday, August 25, 2008 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
Did anyone catch the closing ceremonies?
I loved Leona Lewis and Jimmy Page doing Led Zepplin's "Whole Lotta Love"

It was magnificent!

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Monday, August 25, 2008 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Olympic Medals ranked by GDP

I'll post this link in the N&V area too.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

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We thoroughly enjoyed the closing ceremonies, Sportsfan. They did an amazing job w/all of the special effects and pageantry...and that 40 foot tower w/climbers - just phenomenal!

Chaplin
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01-08-2006

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Eeyoreslament Carol is Vietamese and yes I agree she she should have been picked over Karen Cockburn. I think Karen was picked over Emily Heymans (Since they had the same medal count over 3 Olympics) was they played the you came back from injury in such a short time and won a medal card. It was a pity card type of vote I think....Also I believe Karen has probably decided to retire after this Olympics....I think Emily will likely go for another one....Not sure....

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

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From what I understand, her mother is Chinese.

Spelll
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09-16-2005

Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 6:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spelll a private message Print Post    
USA comes second in medal standings for the first time in 16 years. I think China will win the count (including total medals) in Britain...and for the next several Olympics.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

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110-100 is not coming in second in medal standings. They came in second in gold medals, but not medal standings.

Chaplin
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01-08-2006

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Eeyoreslament I am not sure except CBC kept saying she was Vietamese....She could have mixed heritage also....Anyway does not really matter...

Spelll
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09-16-2005

Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spelll a private message Print Post    
Proper medal rank according to IOC standards is gold first. Only USA media outlets count it as total won. Other outlets around the world count it properly as IOC standards. Other Olympics, US counted as gold first. This time the media thinks Americans would lose face for coming in second. I think people are big enough to deal with it.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

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I thought there was no official standards for counting medals. And every count I have ever seen gives the breakdown of all the medals, not just the gold or the total, but all of them.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, August 29, 2008 - 6:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It's arbitrary. For example, how would you compare 1 gold vs. 10 bronze medals? There is no specific comparative value to a gold vs. silver vs. bronze so it's impossible.

Spelll
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09-16-2005

Monday, September 01, 2008 - 12:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spelll a private message Print Post    
Why just this Olympics then? In 2004 USA Today reported gold first like the rest of the world. USA won both gold and overall medal count but stated that China was second and Russia third even though Russia won many more total medals than China. China won more gold. Methinks that USA just doesn't want to be perceived as second to anyone in anything.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Monday, September 01, 2008 - 12:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
It's also weird, because some sports (wrestling, judo?) give TWO bronze, even though there is a clear winner in the "bronze medal match".

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

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Traynor and Walsh's streak is over.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 6:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
The IOC does not recognize a country as the "winner" of the Olympic games. The Olympics is intended to be an individual and team thing, promoting the triumph of the athlete, not the country from which he/she comes. The head of the IOC calls on the "youth of the world" to assemble, not the countries of the world.

In the early days of the modern Olympics, it was not unusual for teams to be made up of athletes from different countries. Thus of course the gold is the most important medal, because each event is considered in isolation, not as a part of a whole.

Of course the Olympics have become more national over the years, starting mostly with the attitude during the Berline games where Hitler tried to use the games to promote raicial superiority. It increased during the Cold War as the communist bloc tried to use the games to promote political superiority. But the IOC has never recognized the national "winner" mindset.

To me the Chinise attitude leading up to and during these games has been a sort of desperate attempt to use them to show their "power." One of their officials even mentioned it in an interview, when talking about their intensive training program, saying that the success of the games would show China's power. What kind of power he was referring to was left unspecified.

It might be interesting if we could go back and see how other countries reported the count when they were won more medals, but less gold. We are very conscious of what our news sources report, but a little less aware of what goes on in the rest of the world.

And since for many years, the gold and total count was usually held by either the US or the Soviet Union/Russia, other countries have had little interest in who won the most. To them the concept of a country as the "winner" is meaningless.

Also, there is no "official" US newspaper like in some countries. Every news source is free to report as they see fit. Whatever they report is the responsibility of the individual news source, not the country. So to somehow condemn the US as a whole because of the reporting of some news sources is kind of unfair.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

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This upcoming Monday, Sep 8, 2008, the Oprah show is going to have many of the US Olympic team on. It should be great. Here's a link to her show.

http://www.oprah.com/dated/oprahshow/oprahshow_20080903_olympics

Welcome Home Team USA's Olympic Stars!

It's our season premiere from Chicago's Millennium Park. In front of the biggest audience in Oprah Show history…over 175 Olympic stars of Team USA™ come together for a historic TV event. A welcome home celebration for the record books! Get ready—Monday, Sept. 8. (OAD 09/08/2008) (PG)