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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 4:25 am
Is that how they broke the tie? I thought the way it worked was that you get an A score and a B score and the two averaged out is the mark. In the case of a tie, it's the competitor with the higher B score who wins. The A and B judges are judging two different aspects of the performance. I think throwing out the lowest AND THE HIGHEST score is a good thing. It discourages the judges from handing out the highest scores to their own countrymen/women. The system was changed just in the last games or two or three to try to stop rampant biased judging wasn't it?
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Neko
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 4:51 am
Rissa, they threw out the highest and lowest, which gave them both the same overall score, so they got rid of the NEXT lowest score for each girl (Which was an 8.9 for the chinese and a 9.0 for Nastia) which gave the Chinese 9.0, 9.1, and 9.1 and Nastia 9.0, 9.0, and 9.1. I agreed with the NBC announcer that it shouldn't have come to this anyway. Nastia OBVIOUSLY made less mistakes than the Chinese athlete, and with the same start value, should have gotten better scores than she did. If I had been Nastia, I would have probably throw something. But that's because I have anger issues 
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 4:57 am
Ahh, thanks Neko. The broadcast I saw didn't mention that at all so i had assumed they had different B scores. They should have gone on to get rid of the next lowest and highest in that case. ETA: Isn't the gold medal winner one of the 13 yr olds? USA just might end of with it anyway in that case. LOL
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Neko
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 4:58 am
quote:It discourages the judges from handing out the highest scores to their own countrymen/women.
NBC said that the judges from this event weren't from any of the competing countries, so they were from countries who aren't as well versed in gymnastics and haven't produced olympic medalling athletes. I wish I could remember what countries he said they were.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 5:00 am
Yes but that didn't stop the French judge from trying to manipulate the figure skating in Utah to make sure the Russians won. Pretty sad... sportmanship at the Olympics should be a given.
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Neko
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 5:04 am
Canada's Power fails to advance in the 200m semis She ran a 23.40 in the first round, and ran a 23.51 in the second. These were actually very bad races for her. I've seen her run better than this and she's not too happy with her races either. From another articles before her second race..
quote:"Probably my second slowest [race] this year," the determined 26-year-old told CBC Sports. "I don't know what happened. "I don't if it is because I'm not sharp … [but] I'm not making any excuses here, I hope we can fix it. "I run my best every single time and, to run a 23.4 at this point in my season, it shocks me. I'm lucky to get a second chance."
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 7:26 am
Spoiler Click below to view spoiler | Shawn Johnson won the gold in the balance beam! |
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Chaplin
Member
01-08-2006
| Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 8:02 am
There was a tie in the women's hurdles and a photo finish for silver yet eventhough we tied for time Canada was awarded the bronze....Oh well....
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 8:10 pm
I'm so stupid. I started hooping and hollering when the last competitor fell off the balance beam going YAY GOLD YAY GOLD. DUH I already knew Shawn got it!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 8:18 pm
I'm not quite sure how we could tie for time and end up with the Bronze, but it was a great performance so it's hard to be unhappy over that. She never gave up. 
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 4:25 am
It wasn't a tie (although you couldn't get much closer to one). They both crossed in 12.64 seconds but if you expand that past the 2 decimal points the other woman was faster. I wish I could find the photo-finish.... the other woman literally won by a nose. LOLOL
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 1:30 pm
http://www.nbcolympics.com/sailing/photos/galleryid=226794.html There are some great phots from the Olympics in this site. Take a look at the first one under "podium pic." It is just an amazing scene. And buried somewhere on this site is one of the British ship all alone in the dark stormy sea. It is incredible because everything in the picture looks gray, except for the British flag on the sail and a few touches of bright color. I had such a feeling of isolation when I saw it. But when I went back to find it, it was lost in all those thousands of pictures. I will keep looking and post if if I can find it. It is a great picture.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 2:39 pm
I read that tomorrow (which I guess means tonight) the US Women's Soccer team is playing Brazil for the gold. If anyone knows where I can watch, please let me know. It doesn't look like those "people" at nbc will be airing it; hopefully I just overlooked it and they are. I'm so disgusted with how nbc has been airing the Olympics you have no idea. I guess I should feel grateful I can look it up, some people don't have even that option; not everyone has cable and a turbo computer. <sigh> http://soccer.teamusa.org/ Article: Women's soccer softball and water polo go for gold August 20, 2008 Newsweek blog: U.S. Women's Teams Are the Bomb August 20, 2008 Article: Minus its superstar, the U.S. women's soccer team is finding its new personalities August 19, 2008

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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 4:16 pm
Stormie, I show womens soccer at 2am on MSNBC and womens softball at 3:30 am on USA. I am on the westcoast, so you will have to see if you get those stations and check the times. I go here to figure out what will be on each day. http://www.nbcolympics.com/tv_and_online_listings/zone=PT/day=13/time=180/tv.html
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 5:26 pm
Thanks Dipo, I'll check it out.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 7:40 pm
How 'bout that gymnastics gala? 
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Chaplin
Member
01-08-2006
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 10:52 pm
Rissa the real reason why the French judge manipulated the scores in the Winter Games which awarded the Russians and not the Canadians the Gold medal was revealed in the whole scandal during and after and ultimately was why the IOC ruled in favour of Sale and Peltier our skaters getting the Gold. The reason was that the Russian judge was a former Russian. She left Russia many years ago to live in France and married a French Man. She also gave higher scores to European skaters than to others at other events such as to the French and Italians. What was the worst part was she was also bribed by someone the Russian Athletes knew as he knew she often inflated scores and was caught red handed by our Canadian judge who taped the bribery in a hotel room at the Olympics and then she handed the tape over to the IOC and to the ISU. What did the Canadian judge get in return for whistle blowing? Nothing except a ban for life from judging at International Events.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 3:48 am
Chaplin, yes.. she was a real piece of work. Wasn't there also some sort of deal that the French would get higher scores in something else in exchange? Perhaps I am just remembering one of the many theories before the facts came out. What I remember as well is a handfull of international media implying that the Canadians were just *whiners* and should just take the silver and go away. All very ugly. PS I always assumed that after the whole thing was over... that Cdn judge would be reinstated. Didn't happen? How sad.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 4:11 am
Missed the ten minute edit mark...caffiene...MUST FIND...caffiene. LOLOL Was trying to find the info online and I think the whistleblower we were referring to was British. Why are we both thinking Cdn?
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 5:58 am
Not sure if it was mentioned here or not. Bolt Ran the 100m with shoe untied
http://www.foxsports.com.au/beijing_olympics/story/0,27313,24194652-5014104,00.html
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Chaplin
Member
01-08-2006
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 8:26 am
Nope the person who caught the judge on tape and did the whistle blowing was Canadian. I believe she took her findings to someone (An Official) she knew well and trusted with the British Team who encouraged her to whistle blow and was there for her when she did it so it seemed like the British were the whistle blowers, but then the British were not reprimanded like she was and she ended up being suspended. Anyway there were allegations the Russian Mob was in on the deals that were made also. Right after all this they covered a lot up, continued her suspension and changed the whole judging system. To this day the French judge never has served any time for any bribery charges although they were going to lay charges. And yes I believe she is still suspended because they dislike women in the IOC and especially whiny women. It peeves me off because I do not consider her whiny at all, but very courageous. I also believe that this happened because Juan Sameranche was the IOC leader at the time and one of his fellow countrymen was head of the ISU at the time. They always voted together against stuff in those days so it was very surprising when Sale and Peltier were upgraded to the Gold. You know all of this sounds like a great spy novel! I am surprised one was not written after all this with this whole plot!
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 8:42 am
If I remember right, didn't the judge claim she had also been threatened if she did not go along with the "deal" to exchange votes? If they were able to substantiate that, it might explain why she was not charged with any criminal misbehavior.
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Tiernet
Member
06-07-2004
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 9:01 am
Anybody catch the 10K women's open swim? If so, I have a quick question. How did they 'refuel' themselves? (Gels, water, etc)
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Tiernet
Member
06-07-2004
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 9:07 am
Ok I just found my answer.... They go to a one armed backstroke and hold the gel packet with one hand while swimming with the other...
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Chaplin
Member
01-08-2006
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 9:22 am
Allitex her allegations that she was forced were never substantiated as she never could produce the evidence. They just decided to suspend her as well as the Canadian judge permanently.
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