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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 11:22 am
Amen Eeyore, to everything - I would have said just that but I'm so tired....
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 11:24 am
Thanks Sharinia, (I missed the interview.)
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 11:25 am
While both were tacky, Star's didn't involve hurting and outing others. Also, the man BW had an affair with never made it public, and probably for a reason. It's not something he is probably proud of. BW had no right to do what she did, knowing he was married, and it says a lot more to me that she has no feelings of remorse over it, but she even seems PROUD of it.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 11:30 am
I think everything is fodder for the view and I hate when they skip over things that is "hot" at that time...
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 11:40 am
So Star was quietly not commenting on her weight loss at all and they called her out on it? If so, then that is different.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 11:48 am
No JB, everything is not fodder for The View, or at least is shouldn't be. In a time where women have so much pressure put on them for how much they weigh, I think it is disgusting for the show to just follow suit. Weight loss is a VERY sensitive subject, as is the personal esteem of the one whose weight is in question. HOW DARE anyone else comment on anyone else's weight for the sake of entertainment. HOW DARE anyone SUPPORT the commentary on on a person's private struggles with their weight. I'm all for making fun of outfits, or things like that, but weight commentary is just another form of discrimination, and I think anyone who tolerates or encourages discussion about weight loss for the sake of entertainment is despicable. With that said I am ALL FOR a doctor discussing weight loss with a patient, or for people discussing weight loss frankly and clinically with their family or loved ones. If the ladies of the View wanted to talk about Star's weight WITH STAR, IN PRIVATE, for the sake of improving Star's health, and prolonging her life, then I am all for it. But to take someone's PRIVATE business (last I checked, a person's medical record is private) and make it a nugget of entertainment for millions of strangers, that is disgusting to me. They are displaying a warped set of values for their millions of viewers, and that doesn't fly with me. If Star was away for 3 months, and then came back, I can see the ladies mentioning it. BUT, I would think they have no right to cover it past, "Hey Star, welcome back. Where were you for three months?" To which Star has every right to say anything from "I was away for personal reasons" to "I was away for medical reasons" and from there, I don't feel the ladies of The View have ANY RIGHT to question her further. You wouldn't question a co-worker at YOUR work about what exactly their medical reasons were, upon their return, would you? You'd mind your own business, right? So why does Star have any less right to privacy in her medical issues? Skipping over major news is one thing, but skipping over details of a person's PRIVATE life is completely different, and it isn't anyone's business.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 11:52 am
I'm sorry, but if Star didn't want to discuss her weight loss all she had to say was "it's a private matter and I don't want to discuss it, but thanks for noticing. " She didn't have to say "oh, I've just learned to eat small portions and do pilates" which was a total lie and very deceptive to people who share her weight issues. I'd be mad too if I had to sit there and listen to those lies and keep her secret.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 11:53 am
Like I said earlier Jimmer, I wasn't a regular watcher of the show, but I don't think Star was out there actively selling her false methods of weight loss, rather than just answering nosy questions, from the times I've seen (which aren't much). At the end of the day, to me, it's still a private issue, that was Star's choice to reveal or not. And I don't see anything wrong with also advocating exercise and portion control at the same time. Some people's obesity CAN be controlled with an active lifestyle and healthy diet, and I think that is a better message to put out to millions of strangers, rather than a drastic and risky surgery.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 11:54 am
I echo GAL's post. I can't recall whether Star's weight loss was being brought up by the rest of the panel, that's about when I gave up on the show. LOL I do remember Star's breathing though (before the surgery), it was indeed very laboured as if just talking was physically taxing. Re: the book (which I don't intend to read so can only go by the public info.) I don't have a problem with Barbara discussing Star's dismissal because it involved Barbara's reputation as well. Is Star's weight issues discussed in the book or has BW just brought it up in interviews? That part would probably have been better served by some discretion (although Star is probably working on her own book and is just ticked that Barbara scooped her LOL). <100>
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 11:55 am
I would agree Eeyore except Star loved to dish the dirt on people too and it wasnt all sweetness and light. So when they wanted to dish the dirt on her the subject was taboo?
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 12:30 pm
in this brief youtube, BW says
quote:I'm very happy that Star has talked about her gastric bypass....we had all known about it when it happened....she had asked us not to tell....she was our colleague, and we didn't
from fox news
quote:Walters appeared on Oprah Winfrey's TV show Tuesday, saying she had to lie about Jones' dramatic 160-pound weight loss in 2003 after Jones refused to appear on an episode of "20/20" to discuss the surgery, the New York Post said. "We thought it would be helpful for people to see her losing and losing and losing weight, they should understand the dangers and the good things and so forth," Walters said. "Then she decided she would tell nobody, and we had to then lie on the set every day."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354448,00.html
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 12:56 pm
Star absolutely went on other shows and when asked would say she did with with small portions and pilates. then she went to the phrase 'medical intervention' and then when HER book was coming out said it was gastric bypass. i think using the VIEW as a platform to talk openly and honestly about gastric bypass would have been a wonderful thing.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 12:59 pm
I'm siding with Barb on both issues. It's her book and people don't have to read it. I think I will look for it at Costco this weekend.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 3:18 pm
Liv Tyler and her husband, British rocker Royston Langdon, have decided to separate, her rep confirms to PEOPLE. "Liv Tyler and Royston Langdon have confirmed their separation. They remain good friends and devoted parents to their son Milo and are requesting that their family's privacy be respected at this time." Tyler, 30, and Langdon, 36, wed in 2003 in a private ceremony at a villa in the Caribbean. Their son Milo was born in December 2004.
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 3:31 pm
What a shame. Re: Barbara and Star--that's like choosing between liver and aparagus--I think both of them are probably insufferably diva-esque in person.
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 4:04 pm
lol Ny -- c'mon, asparagus is def superior Sure, it may have been nice for those contemplating the surgery if Star had shared. But I agree with Eeyore, that is totally private and her choice. I also don't see why any of Star's colleagues had to 'lie.' If someone asked them 'how is Star losing the weight?' they could have simply said 'Star says portion control and pilates.' And really, that may have been hardly untruthful. No doubt she WAS eating smaller portions, and maybe she was doing pilates. All that is missing is what helped her control the portions. So people thought that it was all will power. So what? It didn't bother BW to lie about the reason for Star's departure. It didn't bother her to conceal her own father's suicide attempt. It didn't bother her that Sen Brooke lied to his wife about spending the holidays with her. . . I get the feeling that BW is not bothered much by lying or privacy unless it adversely affects her personal agenda. And in this case, it seems that she got miffed because Star didn't want to reveal the surgery on her 20/20 show (or the view) eta: I think it is totally understandable that Star may have felt more comfy sharing her surgery 4 years later, after she had safely and successfully taken off the weight, and felt good about her figure
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 5:24 pm
Shar, Thanks for the info on Rosie and Barbara. I just got home a short while ago, so I just saw your post way up there now. 
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 6:59 pm
I think BW is petty and any time someone else is getting some publicity she feels she deserves, she sure goes the distance to put herself in that spotlight at the other person's expense.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Friday, May 09, 2008 - 12:16 pm
ITA Escapee!
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, May 09, 2008 - 3:28 pm
The 17-year-old was sentenced by a judge in Florida on Friday in his tragic car crash case and he will begin serving time immediately. The Hulkster's son plead no contest to reckless driving and this is the price he has to pay: - 5 Years Probation - 8 Months in Jail - 500 Hours of community service, no buyout available - 3 Years of Drivers License suspension - No alcohol for 5 years - DUI school completed within the first year of probation - Paying court costs.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-22-2003
| Friday, May 09, 2008 - 3:43 pm
I totally agree with Sharinia and Eeyore re: BW Book and Star's bi-pass surgery. Couldn't have said it better myself!
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, May 09, 2008 - 3:47 pm
I have two words for Mariah Carey: PAUL MCCARTNEY
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, May 09, 2008 - 4:07 pm
hmm..let's see, Star <100> her wedding out, wrote a book on how to have a successful relationship based on her marriage to an alleged in the closet homosexual whom she is now divorcing, went on ALL the talk shows after she left the Viewm is hitting all the news shows now...who's the publicity hound? except for this book, what has Barbara done to seek publicity for herself?
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, May 09, 2008 - 9:29 pm
Star isn't set out to hurt others. BW made her issues with donald trump public Made her issues with Rosie O'Donnell public Made her issues with star jones VERY public (and continues to do so) and made her affair with a married man public because "she felt like it" with no concern to anyone else
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 5:09 am
yep, Star wasn't hurtful at all with her comment about Barbara in her 'wanning years'. seriously, affair aside, if Barbara had written her autobiography and NOT included Rosie, Star, and Donald people would have accused her of copping out.
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