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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 8:58 am
The US seems to revolve around the SSN. I worked in HR until last year and whenever I had to call Blue Cross about an employee's issue they asked for the insurance group number and the employee's SSN. That's why I think the doctor's office asks for it, because that's what they'll be asked for by the provider. They might be able to do without it but it'll make their life more difficult. I don't think the legitimacy of the doctor is in question here, just the motives of the stepdaughter!
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 9:30 am
We aren't questioning the legitimacy of the doctor. We are saying that it doesn't matter who expects you to provide your SS#, you are not legally required to give it to anyone for any reason other than social security purposes as in employment deductions. No one else is entitled to your SS# for any reason unless you want to give. I don't give mine to anyone.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 6:18 pm
Chilli, it is true the Assessor doesnt force you to give your SS# but if you want to save money or stop reassessment(in certain cases) it is required.
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 10:10 pm
Thanks for all the input. Why I didn't think of this before I don't know but I ended up calling the number on the front of the insurance card and asked the guy what actually was needed by the doctor's office to verify coverage. He said the policy #, ID #, [both on the insurance card], and the policy holder's birth date. They do not require the SS#. He did say that some doctors offices tell their patients that the insurance requires it, but they can't legally refuse her as a patient if we refuse to give it to her. So we called her last night, gave her hubby's birth date, and told her to give them our phone number if they had a problem and we would take care of it. She didn't know why they wanted it, so I'm assuming it's to track hubby down if out of pocket expenses don't get paid. That's the birth vessel's job not ours. I don't think the legitimacy of the doctor is in question here, just the motives of the stepdaughter! Actually we weren't questioning the motives of hubby's daughter. [She's my bonus daughter, not my step daughter as the kids all refer to me as their bonus mom not step mom. ] What we are afraid of is the birth vessel getting access to hubby's SS# and causing all kinds of havoc. In the past she has had utilities in his name and not paid but we were able to get that straightened out because we are in different states. She tried one last time after we were married and SHE got taken to court by the electric company for fraud. [She has kept his name even tho she has been married twice since they divorced. Now she uses her pretend husband's last name even tho they aren't married.] I guess if the doctor's office has to have a SS# I can give them the birth vessel's as she's the one responsible for payment of out of pocket payments. I won't give her SS# out even tho it would serve her right! Thanks again!
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 11:07 am
I would serate.
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 1:53 pm
If I knew I wouldn't get into trouble legally I would too Escapee. Besides, 3 1/2 more years until hubby's youngest is 18 - unless she moves out at 17 which we will encourage if she wants to! My bonus kids have a 9 year old half brother who I will worry about like crazy, but I will not tolerate her crap any more after our youngest is 18 or moves out, whichever comes first. Is it considered fraud to give out a phone number as yours when it isn't yours? We found out today that the people that used to have this number are still using it as a contact number. The hospital that called said K gave it to her just last week!!!!! I called the phone company and they said oh well change your phone number. I asked if they would charge these people and she said why you are the one wanting to change it. I feel like writing them a letter as I did find out - through Best Buy of all places - what their address is and then was able to verify it on line, but not a new phone number. But I'm afraid we'll be on the receiving end of harassing phone calls if I do. I just changed our answering machine to "Leave your name and number and we'll get back to you as soon as possible. If you are calling for R & K J, please be aware that they have not had this phone number since February 12, 2007 if not before and are still handing this number out as their number. Their address is *********. Please take this number off of your calling list for R & K J." I know that most of you would say to just change our phone number but this has gone past the number just being in somebody's system, they are actually giving it to companies saying it is their own number!
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 2:02 pm
Do you think they just forget the new number, Serate? I know that sounds unlikely but if they're giving your number to a hospital... why would they not want a hospital to have their number, surely they'd want to keep in contact with them? Maybe they're forgetful and are making an honest mistake. Not that that's helpful on how to solve it.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 2:22 pm
You haven't had that number for that long. Personally, I'd change it and NOT put on a forwarding number after the change. Why bother to put up with it if there is an easy way to get out of it? If you insist on keeping your message, I would delete the part about providing their address. That COULD cause more problems than just getting their phone calls. BTW, unless it's a legal contract, I don't think there is any law about giving out a wrong #. I used to do it all the time at nightclubs... I'd give out Lloyd's Pest Control as my number. I'm sure the pest control folks got a few "oops, wrong numbers" but oh well.
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 2:36 pm
I would think that giving the number out to a hospital doctor's office, or when filling out a credit card would be considered a legal contract but I'm not sure. When we first had the problems we didn't have the $50 to change the number. The calls have slowed down alot until the past couple weeks. We could afford it now but like the lady said at QWEST they can't promise we won't get another number that was only changed because the people were having credit problems. So then we are back to square one. What bothers us most is not the people that still have it on file - creditors don't believe us that we aren't them but for the most part have quit hounding us daily now it's just ever couple months or so, but the people who were just given it a week ago should NOT have it. I don't think it was an honest mistake as yes it was a hospital calling, but it was the business department wanting paid. I was just wondering if it was fraud or not, that's all.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 2:40 pm
It sounds like fraud to me!
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 3:23 pm
Serate, if you're having these problems and also (saw in the other thread) issues with neighbors calling the city to complain about this and that regarding your property...is there any chance that the old homeowners are actually the ones doing the harrassing, and not current neighbors?
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 7:47 pm
I wouldn't know why Hukd but I guess it's possible. The house had been empty for almost a year when we bought it and were out of state. Hubby didn't see them once, closing was taken care of by faxes to get their signatures.
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Herckleperckle
Member
11-20-2003
| Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 5:22 am
Anyone else having trouble connecting to Comcast for their email?
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 10:20 am
HP, sorry, I didn't see your note till now. I use Microsoft Outlook, and connect through the POP Server, and have had no problems all morning. Just for grins, I tried through the web site too, and no problems. But then, its been hours since your post. If they had a tech error, could be its fixed by now.
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Herckleperckle
Member
11-20-2003
| Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 11:35 am
It is finally fixed! Thanks, Who. Wasn't sure where to post the question. Comcast in my area made a ton of changes to their email service (or the look of it, anyway), and everyone here was locked out (couldn't sign on). Couldn't reach Comcast via the web, let alone to my email. Was on hold for about 25 minutes, when they confirmed they had a problem. And told me I wouldn't be able to sign onto ANY secure site. (So that's why I couldn't log onto Wachovia this morning!) Everything is just fine now, though.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 4:05 pm
I have 3 oz of hair dye, how much developer do I use? I usually get premixed and forgot to ask the girl yesterday
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 4:11 pm
Pamy, what brand of hair dye are you using?
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 4:13 pm
something new that I never heard of LOL Satin ultra vivid fashion colors got it at beauty supply
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 4:14 pm
OH DUH!! when I put my reading glasses on to see the fine print under brand name I turned box and it says 1 pt color to 2 pts perioxide. perioxide = developer I believe I am really dumb today I shoulda gotten blonde! lol
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 4:15 pm
ps Thanks Costa oh great now I just realized I have no idea how long to keep it on!! Damn you Loreal! why did you have to stop supplying my store with my color! I guess I will keep on for 20 min
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Landileigh
Member
07-29-2002
| Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 5:50 pm
pamy, if it is permanent loreal color, it is 30 minutes.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 5:50 pm
the color is darker than I thought it would be but I did like this brand, didnt smell at all
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Monday, April 07, 2008 - 10:11 am
Question: If a spray will kill ticks and flies, will it also kill fleas? I have a spray that is for horses and it repels/kills flies, tick, along with some other bugs and it says it can be used on dogs. I wonder if it will also kill fleas? It's that time of year, and while we put Advantage on our pets, it doesn't stop the fleas from jumping on them.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, April 07, 2008 - 10:18 am
If there is an 800 number on the bottle, I'd call the company. No sense dousing the pup if it isn't going to do anything for him!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, April 07, 2008 - 10:21 am
Fleas are horrible and hard to try to get rid of. My guess is that it won't help with the fleas. Even if it did, I doubt it would get the larvae(sp). That is what is harder to get than the fleas themselves..
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