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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 5:23 am
seriously, affair aside, if Barbara had written her autobiography and NOT included Rosie, Star, and Donald people would have accused her of copping out. ITA Texannie!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 6:29 am
I seem to recall Star dishing it out pretty good about some other people. I'm not saying that two wrongs make a right. However, it makes it harder to support her position as a victim of Barbara's book.
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Ginger1218
Member
08-31-2001
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 7:25 am
"seriously, affair aside, if Barbara had written her autobiography and NOT included Rosie, Star, and Donald people would have accused her of copping out" And it wouldn't have sold any books either
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 9:02 am
Polanski Victim Defends Director Roman Polanski's underage sex assault victim Samantha Geimer has come to terms with the fugitive filmmaker's crime - insisting she's "so over it." French-born Polanski was convicted of the statutory rape of the then 13-year-old Geimer in 1978, but fled to Paris before he could be sentenced for the crime. And the 45-year-old mother of two - who attended the premiere of a new documentary about the filmmaker on Tuesday - has long recovered from her ordeal. She tells the New York Daily News, "He took advantage of me. But I'm so over it. Worse things are happening to people right now." Geimer has since reached a civil settlement with the French director, but adds she feels "surgically joined to him by this case." She says, "I would like to see it resolved. I thought it'd be better to step into the open instead of having the media sneaking around trying to find me." Polanski, 74, has avoided prison by remaining in the French capital since entering a guilty plea. He has been granted benefits of his French citizenship, and Geimer notes it was a wise choice: "(Polanski) did the right thing under the circumstances. He wasn't getting a fair shake." The film, Roman Polanski: Wanted And Desired, is set for a televised broadcast in the U.S. next month. http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2008-05-09/
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 10:11 am
and people write books so they won't sell?? LOL
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 10:32 am
WOW cant believe the Hulk's son got 8mo + all the rest of the sentence! Esp since the celeb kids in CA seem to get off with a hand slap. I cant remember though, was anyone injured?
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 11:05 am
yes his best friend is tied to a bed for the rest of his life, with a feeding tube and a ventilator. His father testified in the sentencing portion and said that his son survived his tour in Iraq only to have this happen to him. 8 months in jail seems pretty light to me.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 11:50 am
I have to agree with Maris. I would have like to have seen him locked up for way longer, and I wish that with him being a minor, that the mom and dad ALSO be held accountable for his actions, but hopefully the civil suits will punish them further. Personally, that is the ONE CRIME that I am 100% unforgiving and extreme about. I would like to see drunk drivers have their license taken away for LIFE. It's totally preventable, and yet sooooo many selfish <100> think they are above the law, and it's almost NEVER the drunk driver who dies. When someone is injured to the point that they will never wake up again or have a normal life, then I think the driver should be charged with manslaughter. OK, sorry I'm ranting. <100>
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 12:34 pm
The boy is 17, he is genuinely sorry now but in about ten years, he will probably be getting married, maybe starting a family, moving on to a successful life while this poor victim is still in a bed or possibly dead because of infections which is not unusual in someone who is completely paralysed. He will think occasionally about that terrible mistake he made ten years ago and the victim will lay alone in a bed with his aging parents visiting him and brothers or sisters if he has any. I think he should at the very least spend every day until he is 21 in jail.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 12:39 pm
ITA with both of you!
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 2:00 pm
It was NOT drunk driving--he was charged with reckless driving. He was "street racing" his souped-up car, going over 110/hr in the downtown area (speed limit is 35)and wrapped the car around a tree. This has become a very popular "sport" down here with young guys in the last year, and in fact, a few months ago there were about 5 or 6 cars racing at over 100/hr on the bridge going over Tampa Bay while I was driving back. It's nerve wracking enough crossing that long bridge, high over the water, without 5 teenagers dodging in and out of the 3 lanes at dangerously high speed. It's just insane, and I think he should have been given a lot more jail time. His father, the "Hulk," apparently indulged his "hobby" and paid for the high speed car. His parents both knew he was into it. These "kids" are using heavily trafficked, downtown roads and bridges like racetracks and are truly accidents waiting to happen.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 2:03 pm
Reports were that he had been drinking so while he may not have been officially DUI, he was 17 and had been drinking when he and his friends decided to go out drag racing.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 2:24 pm
Maris, thanks for info, I didn't realize his friend was almost killed, very sad that his friend has to live in that condition. I would think that is a sentence for life anyway but reading your post about how it will prolly be in 10 yrs changed my mind. So sad and so very true I do agree the sentence was a light one now that I know about his friend
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 2:56 pm
If we are considering a harsher sentence based on what happened to his friend, the thing is that his friend showed poor judgement as well. He wasn't a completely innocent bystander. He probably participated in the racing and no one forced him into the car at gunpoint. I feel terrible that this happened to him but it is not the same as if a completely independent unassociated person was hurt or killed.
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 3:02 pm
I think his parents will have to pay unless laws are different in their state. Our friends bought their son a car which he proceeded to drive while drinking and hit a girl who ended up in about the same state as this. Parents had a great business selling RV's...they lost their business, their son in jail and they were reduced to living in a trailer in their senior years still making payments on the girls care. I don't think this case is over by any means...JMHO!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 6:22 pm
Not to mention that there is store footage of Hulk buying a bunch of Coronas for the boys earlier in the evening. I am POSITIVE I saw it, but forget where, as it was months ago.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 12:56 am
OK, here is the story about Hogan buying the kids beers: LINK It says that he provided beers for all of Nick's friends who were over 21, the driver of the other car wouldn't consent to a blood test, and that Nick had alcohol in his system after the crash. And a couple of more links (sorry that it's Perez, but the guy does dish SOME true stuff). Just some pics from the day of the crash, including Hulk buying beer. LINK 1 LINK 2
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 5:19 am
I would have a problem with my 17 year old kid hanging out with 23 year olds and 21 year olds, especially if I was someone famous.
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Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 6:21 am
I think it is a huge shame that Hulk Hogan isn't going to be sitting in the next cell for the same amount of time as Nick, if not longer. I have a 17 year old boy. If we lived that life style where his dad was buying him and his buddies beer, taking them boating, then putting his butt in a Viper and racing him you would have to know it is going to end badly. I watched their show. Hulk Hogan was itching to be one of Nicks buddies. IDK maybe Hogan is going through a midlife crisis since he was also having an affair with one of Brooks 20 something year old friends, along with wanting to hang with the boys. While you hope, pray and guide your kids to make good choices I think it would harder for them to make those choices where the parent is laying a bad foundation.
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 6:59 am
Nice post, Biloxi. How many 17 yr olds would turn down beer when dad is buying? etc
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 7:03 am
While you hope, pray and guide your kids to make good choices I think it would harder for them to make those choices where the parent is laying a bad foundation amen and well said! those parents scare the heck out of me.
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 7:17 am
To be perfectly honest, when I was 18 or 19 and on xmas break from college, I can remember my parents letting me & my friends drink ourselves silly at their house while they were there. One of my friends had a bf who was 25 and bought the alcohol. They didn't encourage it or cheer us on, but they gave us a 'safe place,' and so long as we didn't go anywhere (my friends all spent the night) they were okay with it. My mom always insisted that we call her if we needed a ride home from a party, or whatever. I have never driven while intoxicated, don't think my friends have either.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 8:12 am
Many Americans views on alcohol differ from those in other parts of the world (Europe or even Canada for example). Americans are sometimes much more puritanical. Consumption of alcohol in general is not looked at as a big bad thing in Europe. People drink at younger ages and in a family setting. Now that is not remotely to suggest that Europeans approve of drunk driving which is a different thing altogether. Drunk driving is bad - period.
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 8:31 am
yeah Jimmer, was just thinking about that agreed, drinking + driving is the real problem here drag racing period is a problem (under most if not all circumstances, imo) drag racing + alcohol is unbelievably stupid drag racing + alcohol + not wearing a seat belt is inviting disability/death admittedly I am not up on all of the details ... did Hulk encourage his son to drag race (and while drunk?) was he there?
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 9:56 am
i frankly think the age limit should be lowered back to 18, but with that said, parents are obligated to the be moral compass for their kids. my kids on occasion have had wine with us, but i do not think a parent should buy their underage kids alcohol so they can have a party and my child would not be allowed to go over to someone's house who did. that parent can provide a safe haven for their child to do whatever they want, but it crosses the line when they invite my child. am i living in a bubble and denying that my 18 year might drink? no. am i providing drinks for his friends? no.
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