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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 3:36 pm
I've been having a rough time of it the past couple of days.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 4:05 pm
Nick, I think everyone is having a hard time right now for some reason or another - both my office manager and I were struggling with "I wish I still smoked" this week, and she's been quit almost as long as I have. All you have to do is tell yourself no. We've managed, although my husband and employees seem to be intent on driving me to smoke. Since I insist on winning I won't smoke, but I sure wish I still did. ETA Geri - my weight gain is ridiculous, I'm going to the doctor next week to get diet pills. You can start smoking again, but the weight won't come off like that. The damage is done, you'll just be an overweight smoker if you start again. Better to stay quit and get help with the diet. MHO.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 5:14 pm
I still sometimes wish I could smoke but I know I can't so I keep telling myself no. But my weight is through the roof. I've gained around 50 lbs in a little over a year. GAL, you are lucky if your doc will give you diet pills. Mine won't.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 5:20 pm
Geri, hope your pool is fixed soon. DOnt give in! You will lose that weight!! even if it takes til end of summer, you are still better off. ((Nick))) are you still not smoking? GAL, yah for getting the pill!!! it will kick start your loss and when you see the lbs comming off its incentive to keep it up! went to doc today and we looked it up, I should way 120 so I have ways to go...most of my weight was from no excercise and my fibro for last 4-5 yrs. being in menopause is making it harder to lose quickly but I am determined. I dont miss smokin at all.....I think prayer helped with the mind part I am still at 144 and holding (no gain or loss this week) started the water aerobics, it's fun!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 5:21 pm
my 5 mo anniversary came and went 4-20-08 5 whole freakin months I actually am so into losing weight that I dont even think of smokin. I just wish losing weight was as quick and easy as quitting was for me. I could eat a whole cake right now
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 5:40 pm
Twinks, my doctor and I have shied away from diet pills because of my heart defect. But frankly the weight gain combined with the beta blockers they've given me to prevent a reoccurrence of the vision/migraine problem I had last summer have caused me to be unable to walk a flight of stairs or even down the hallway without heaving for breath. I can't breathe. I never had problems like this when I smoked. I think problems related to my heart defect have advanced because of the effects of weight gain (its called bifurcated aortal valve), and the stress on the heart tissue might be causing blood to slosh back into the heart quicker than previously causing a lack of blood oxygen. Or maybe it has something else having to do with the blood oxygen. I don't know. But I do know that I was experiencing relatively perfect health (but for the vision problem) when I first went in for testing, and my health went into the crapper when I quit smoking and began gaining weight. And weirdly, I can walk 1.5 to 2 miles in 1/2 an hour on the treadmill without suffering too much, but I can't walk from the living room to the kitchen without losing my breath. I don't sound bitter, do I? I reiterate, I am not going to begin smoking again. But I am definitely going to get help with the weight gain, because I can be unhealthy, fat and an unhappy non-smoker which I am now; or I can be unhealthy, skinny and a happy smoker which I was then. I would rather be a healthy, relatively thin and content non-smoker since I've already put in the heavy-lifting. I'm not there at this point. Need some help with the relatively thin part to get to the content non-smoker part.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 5:41 pm
Pamy, you are awesome. I need to get where you are on the losing weight thing. Twinks, my doctor promised she would help me with diet pills if I had tried with regular methods without success, and I have. If she doesn't help now I'm going to find a doctor who will, because this situation is negatively affecting my health more than smoking was. I can't believe with the 50 lb weight gain that you're reporting a doctor would recommend something to assist with weight loss.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 6:05 pm
Yeah....she gave me a one page eating chart. Right. Thanks a lot. I have told her several times now that I can feel the weight killing me faster than the cigs ever would have. Everything is a struggle now. How do you find a doc that will give you diet pills?
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 6:08 pm
I dunno, Twinks. Mine just said she would give me pills to help if I experienced uncontrollable weight loss. I would change doctors stat if mine just handed me an eating chart and said "deal", especially as a peri/menopausal/post menopausal patient with weight gain related to quitting smoking. It's not that simple.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 6:51 pm
Yes I am still not smoking. I quit the chantix, but I'm thinking I might need to get another prescription. I mighta stopped to soon. Hey ladies...don't feel bad. I feel and look like a Good Year Blimp. I think that's part of my problem too...I'm kinda depressed about stuff and weight is one of them.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 6:54 pm
I think we might all need to sit in a circle, hold hands and take turns saying nice things about ourselves . . . how frikkin sad is that?
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 6:59 pm
Twinkie, unless you have very very high blood pressure most docs would give ya a pill ...for at least a couple months....look up weight loss docs in your area. GAL, the pill helps really well the first 2 wks then it is more of a take the edge off type thing. The eating green apple pieces throughout day has been very helpful for me...add the 0 calorie chocolate sauce and you have a little heaven I have said before but I think the reason my quit has been easier is cuz I have never felt better....quitting made my fibro better, so I havent felt this good in 4+ years....that is the best incentive 
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 7:15 pm
Ok Goddess...I'll start... ummm...I look really good in 42" waist pants. Do you realized that two years ago...I weighed the heaviest I ever have and I was about to fit into 42" pants. I said screw that and started working out, eating healthy and all that jazz. I got down to 192lbs and was wearing 36" pants. And all the while I was still smoking! sheesh....
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 7:18 pm
I feel worse than I ever have. And yep, it is very depressing. Is there actually such a thing as a weight control DOCTOR?
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 7:27 pm
GAL LOL!!! I think a group trip to Vegas would really make me feel better I have to get a real swimsuit ..gasp...cuz that swimdress weighs me down and pops up and slaps water in my face during class LOL Nick, get another mo of chantix if ya need it...yah for sticking to it! Twinkie YES! tons of them...some that just give ya pills LOL they only deal with weight loss and dispensing pills ...tell your doc you are gonna start smoking if ya dont get a pill!!! keep in mind...the pill is just a part of it..ya still have to make good food choices but pill helps ya not feel hungry all the time and it gives ya some energy....its kinda like legal speed
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 7:29 pm
Nick, I don't know what I weigh or what size I wear now, because I have a deal with my doctors that they can weigh me but not tell me my weight (they honor this and understand this). I don't look at or worry about the size of my clothes, only how tight they fit. The most I've ever weighed as an adult (to my knowledge) is 140 lbs, and I am well past that now (I am 5'8" tall). I have put on at least 20 lbs from this non-smoking thing, and I have NOT been eating more. I don't eat sweets, and meals are generally fresh meat and vegetables. I lead a high-stress lifestyle that leaves little time for anything but work and sleep (if I'm lucky enough to sleep). Nick, Colossus wears 40-42" pants and he is damned hot, you should love that about yourself. If you are over 40, you will never see 36" again without killing yourself. Nonetheless, there has to be a happy medium somewhere. I aim to find it. Oh, and a nice thing about myself. Ummm ... uh...I'm at my best when I'm under pressure. Except I'm usually a at the same time, but people pay me big money for that. So ya, it's all good unless you're Colossus. Jes sayin'.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 7:32 pm
Okay what are weight control doctors called cause I'm not finding doctors under weight.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 7:48 pm
Well I'm not over 40 and I'm only 5'9"...I look more preggers than my wife did while carrying. I'll be alright...I just got to get this out of my system dammit. I just want to say
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 8:33 pm
Twinkie, try diet doctors Nick, I bet your wife thinks you look sexy, prolly even sexier now that you are a non smoker 
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Geri
Member
07-08-2003
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 9:21 pm
Vegas sounds like a good idea except i used to smoke a lot while i played the slots!! of course, i couldn't get away with that with all of you with me. Wonder if it is the change in seasons that is giving us so much trouble. Or pollen counts or soemthing other things in the air. Glad i am not alone in my struggles lately although i wish noone had to go through this. a good thing about myself--there is more of me to love!!!
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 10:09 pm
I can't find any listing for a diet doctor in Buffalo, NY. I see dietician, nutritionist, bariatric surgeon, hypnotists. No Diet doctors.
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Shadoe
Member
11-04-2004
| Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 5:06 am
Exercise will do it, not pills. when I quit smoking, I gained a fair amount of weight and also felt like my breathing was worse after I quit. Your metabolism slows down when you quit smoking so you need to kick it up a notch and do more exercise than you once did. I know that sucks, but I actually am starting to feel way better now. Exercise and diet will do the trick. Twink, you would do well to see a dietitian or nutritionist because they are the ones who can pick apart your current diet and give you some good healthy guidelines on how to alter your current way of eating to fit into your new non smoking lifestyle. For the breathing, being active will help you. Walking jogging running spinning or just getting on a treadmill is great. I am also enjoying weight training. The extra muscle mass helps to burn more calories and it's oddly helping me with the breathing issues too. Diet pills result in unhealthy weight losses by getting rid of water and muscle mass. You are left with a body that is less able to burn calories so you end up gaining weight back and having an even harder time getting that new weight off. Here's how my dr put it. Sure you have put on a few more lbs, but your heart and lungs thank you for it. Now go and do some exercising. It was not what I wanted to hear but it was the right thing. Now I am off to a spinning class - something I never would have been able to do when I smoked.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 7:38 am
Shadoe, great advice! I agree about not being able to exercise like I am when I smoked. I still get winded walkin up stairs but I think thats from this extra weight.. Twinkie, that is strange cuz in CA there are lots of them. You can actually get them online...but after Shadoe's great advice I bet ya dont want any 
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Holly
Member
06-19-2005
| Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 7:58 am
GAL, kudos to you for hanging in despite the weight gain and mental battles you've faced with the "demon". It was the exact same for me--very hard to overcome the desire to smoke along with the unexpected, STRONG cravings. I just missed it SO much. I think quitting is vastly different for us all. Some people, once they get over the initial fear of giving up what they consider a "friend", seem to have little trouble or desire to smoke. For others, the psychological need/addiction is very strong. I think we both fall into that category. It will soon be 2 years for me and it's only recently I can tell you, in all honestly, that I seldom feel the need to smoke. Now it's all about food for me, and I've probably replaced one addiction with another. Needless to say, my weight gain is off the charts. But, from what you say, it sounds like your gain is still very manageable as you ARE eating healthily! So hang in there--it will all even itself out. You're still a relative "newbie" to the quitting game--I believe that once you're in the 2nd year of your quit, you WILL be that content non-smoker you mention, honestly! Last week my doctor gave me an Rx for diet pills but I haven't filled it yet partly because I think what Shadoe posted is absolutely correct. The diet pills might be helpful for a couple of weeks to get you started, but in the long run, they're not a good way to lose. The weight comes back on, plus some, and it's just harder to lose then. I know I have to reach the point where I'm ready to hunker down and embrace yet another "life-style change" and to accept that this is for the long haul. To be honest, I dunno if I'll ever reach that point. If only I could become addicted to vegetables and soy products (instead of baked goods, bread and chocolate) and develop a love for bending at the waist, spinning, steppin' and all those things which cause you to puff, pant, and sweat. And talking about puffing and panting, I too get so very breathless at the least activity. Strangely enough, it's not caused by the loss of lung (my pft's are almost normal) but rather due to heart damage caused during the lung surgery. My mitral valve doesn't function right now, and they figure this causes the awful breathlessness I suffer just from walking 10 feet or even sometimes, talking on the phone. I'm hoping that if I can lose the 50 lbs I've gained, that might help the shortness of breath. Hope springs eternal, huh?
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 8:43 am
Am I the only one who counted the red dots to figure out Nick's cuss word? Holly, my brother said the same thing - it took him 2 years before he really didn't think much about smoking. As far as exercise goes, the most I will ever be able to muster is walking. I have never liked or been able to do cardio exercises even though I've tried many times to learn. I'm all for better living through chemistry, and I'm more than happy to have my doctor give me a kick start on weight loss so I can get myself invested in the process rather than feel hopeless about it.
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