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Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 7:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Thanks Jimmer! The contract, hmmm. The day I filled out all that paperwork is a blur. I'll have to dig for it. The agency's take wouldn't come out of my pay; rather, it's an additional fee paid by the company to the agency. Hmmm. I don't think I'll call my rep on this one as she has a tendency to yell at me.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 7:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
usually the employer is the one that pays a fee to the agency.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 7:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
I THINK you're usually only beholden to the company for 6 months after the introduction to the company that wants to hire you, but it depends on each agency... it could be 12 months...

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Don't companies hire former temps all the time after the temp gig is over?

But, yeah, look for your contract and see what it says.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 7:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
It really does depend on the contract. The employer pays the fee, but hiring someone full time off a temp job is often VERY expensive for the employer, so they may try to avoid it.

Alternatively, the employer can offer to 'hire' you through the temp agency for a period of time to pay off the fee. Unfortunately, this usually means less money for you unti lthat period of time is over.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Thanks everyone for the advice. I wasn't able to find my original contract, and I have an interview this afternoon and don't want to get sidetracked. I did find this clause in my timesheet that releases the company from obligation to the temp agency after 90 days. I last worked fot them in the middle of December--that should work.

Anyway, I'll ask the company tomorrow in person; thems who's payin' gets the heads up first. :-)

clause

Sorry for the page stretchiness; didn't know how to copy from a locked Excel file.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I don't think YOU have an obligation to tell the temp agency, but the company that's employing you might have. I'd secure the job position and only then mention "do we need to do anything about the temp agency?" But I'd secure the job first!

Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 9:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I would not tell the temp agency. If the ninety days is past you are cool which I am pretty sure the company realizes it and that is why they contacted you now. As a rule it is the company that hires you that has to pay the fee not you. Note you are not the client, the company is the client. So I would keep my mouth shut and make sure that the nintey days passed before you go on payroll.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
ITA with Maris. Don't say anything to anyone.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I agree. The 90 days is past, which means you have no legal obligation to the temp agency, nor does your new employer. Congratulations!

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Okay, I'm gonna say something to the employer though--they have to pay me somehow! Filling out new w-2 and whatnot. Totally the temp agency's loss on this one. I gave them a nudge to please scare up some work for me, and if they had called the client first, they would've been in the loop.

It's only a short stint, but enough to pay the bills this month. :-)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm not sure what you are going to say to the employer, Nyheat? What do you mean?

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Oh, I see what you are saying, Nyheat? You're wondering if this employer plans to pay you directly or thru the temp agency. Apparently it wasn't made clear when they called you?

I would clarify this with the employer then. Let them make the call about how they want to handle it. Just ask 'em straight up, are you hiring me directly, or is this assignment still through the temp agency? Their answer dictates where you go next, whether you need to ask the employer if it's *contract* work, or you will be an employee; or calling the temp agency.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I'm gonna ask them how they're gonna pay me! lol You gotta understand--if it's thru the temp agency, there are a lot of formalities and procedures to keep on top of, especially this particular agency. They are a pain.

I thought about asking the HR person this morning when they called if the temp agency was going to be included, but thought better of it. There was a long pause when I went "ummmmm" and said okay, I'll see you tomorrow. i didn't want to say anything until I had more information, like the contract info and so forth. I don't want anyone yelling at me later--and both sides tend to yell. I'll get it sorted out tomorrow!

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
It may take care of itself. If the first thing they do is sit you down and have you sign a contract or fill out a W4, that's your answer. If they try to put you straight to work, then you will have to ask.

I am thinking they intended to hire you directly, since they didn't call the temp agency and ask them to call you.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I know in the past when I have used agencies and wanted someone back. I would call the agency and ask if that person was available. Since the employer called you directly, it is pretty apparent that they did not want to go through the agency.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 3:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
If it's a contract you know it probably won't be an "employee" relationship, don't you? The W4 is what you give employers who withhold taxes on your pay. With a contract job (and it sounds like that's what you were talking about in your original post) you usually are hired as an independent contractor, and they do NOT withhold taxes, you have to work all that out for yourself, pay estimated taxes if necessary, and at the end of the year pay self-employment tax (which is double the usual soc sec tax + medicare, about 15% not 7.5%). Just giving you a heads up in case you're not aware, as you may want to consider that when negotiating your price.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Thanks so much for the info! We've already set the rate, which is at the top of my pay scale, so I'm happy with that. I'll have to find out about the taxation tomorrow. I would prefer to do the W4 through them if they offer that option, but I know what you're talking about regarding the 1099 (I think that's the form for self-employed.)

Thanks again for everyone's advice!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 4:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Anyone have some ideas for me? I looooooove my son's current teacher. He is somewhat special needs (ADHD and asperger-though the asp. is kind of hard to tell) but anyways, suffice it to say that his current teacher has been more than patient with both him AND me!!! (I know you all know what a PITA I can be at times. Especially when it comes to him...)

Anyways, we found out that this teacher will be switching grades next year and advancing one year along with my son. Of course I would lovelovelovelove to have her be his teacher again.

Of course I am sure the other kids and parents feel the same as she is well loved by more than just me. And the principal has requested that no letters be sent making teacher requests. But she did say letters could be sent that have info about your child that could be helpful in determining an teacher.

Last year I only asked that they find as wonderful of a teacher for his 3rd grade as they did for his 2nd grade.

Any ideas of what I could put in my letter???

I know, I am high strung at times and should probably step back and not even make any request... but then I think what the heck, sure couldn't hurt.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 5:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Julie, I would cleverly write a letter about your son's needs that just so happens to match the talents of his current teacher.

For example, when my son was in 3rd grade, he was quite school phobic. So I requested a teacher who understood that issue, and wouldn't mind if he could sit in front and be "her helper". He also had a lot of trouble sitting still and working at his desk. So I requested a teacher that didn't mind if kids laid on the floor to do their bookwork. Of course, there was only one third grade teacher who fit the bill, and I already knew that, so guess which teacher he got! :-)

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 6:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Good idea. But how do I figure out what skill sets she has that the other ones don't. Hmmm, need to network with other moms and get some info on the other 4th grade teachers...

Thanks Kar. That is a good start!!

Sewmommy
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07-06-2004

Friday, May 02, 2008 - 6:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sewmommy a private message Print Post    
Julieboo, do your networking quickly, because school is letting out soon and I know they like to have those kind of requests before the end of the school year.
When I have done this, I have requested the type of teacher. Organized, compassionate, and for my girls, high standards. You may also want to go in and talk to his current teacher. Tell her you understand that you can't request teachers, but could she help you with a note for the principal.
We know our kids so well, but sometimes a teacher view can be helpful. Hmm, I need to go and do this for my smart/"squirrly" dd too.
Good luck!

Bombaycat
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07-21-2007

Friday, May 02, 2008 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bombaycat a private message Print Post    
Julieboo - Maybe you could mention in your letter that you would like a teacher who has experience dealing with ADHD and children with asperger syndrome. His current teacher would certainly meet that criteria.

You might consider getting a child advocate who deals with asperger syndrome and can speak with the school on your behalf. I have a friend who's son has asperger's. During his early school years she and her advocate would speak with the school administration and explain his challenges. This advocate knew the state mandates and school requirements for dealing with special needs.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, May 02, 2008 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
ooohh, where do I find an advocate?? Thanks guys, you are offering wonderful advice!! I know I gotta move quickly, but it's so hard cuz I want to make sure it's effective!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, May 02, 2008 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
plus I am not sure that his current teacher would be happy about having another whole year of him--she might want the break!! So I am even hesitant to ask her!