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Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 3:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Not sure this is the right thread to ask this is, but is there any truth to the "story" here? (I got this in an email. May be total bunk, but I thought I'd ask...)

Once upon a time (75 million years ago to be more precise) there was an alien galactic ruler named Xenu. Xenu was in charge of all the planets in this part of the galaxy including our own planet Earth, except in those days it was called Teegeeack.

Now Xenu had a problem. All of the 76 planets he controlled were overpopulated. Each planet had on average 178 billion people. He wanted to get rid of all the overpopulation so he had a plan.

Xenu took over complete control with the help of renegades to defeat the good people and the Loyal Officers. Then with the help of psychiatrists he called in billions of people for income tax inspections where they were instead given injections of alcohol and glycol mixed to paralyse them. Then they were put into space planes that looked exactly like DC8s (except they had rocket motors instead of propellers).

These DC8 space planes then flew to planet Earth where the paralysed people were stacked around the bases of volcanoes in their hundreds of billions. When they had finished stacking them around then H-bombs were lowered into the volcanoes. Xenu then detonated all the H-bombs at the same time and everyone was killed.

The story doesn't end there though. Since everyone has a soul (called a "thetan" in this story) then you have to trick souls into not coming back again. So while the hundreds of billions of souls were being blown around by the nuclear winds he had special electronic traps that caught all the souls in electronic beams (the electronic beams were sticky like fly-paper).

After he had captured all these souls he had them packed into boxes and taken to a few huge cinemas. There all the souls had to spend days watching special 3D motion pictures that told them what life should be like and many confusing things. In this film they were shown false pictures and told they were God, The Devil and Christ. In the story this process is called "implanting".

When the films ended and the souls left the cinema these souls started to stick together because since they had all seen the same film they thought they were the same people. They clustered in groups of a few thousand. Now because there were only a few living bodies left they stayed as clusters and inhabited these bodies.

As for Xenu, the Loyal Officers finally overthrew him and they locked him away in a mountain on one of the planets. He is kept in by a force-field powered by an eternal battery and Xenu is still alive today.

That is the end of the story. And so today everyone is full of these clusters of souls called "body thetans". And if we are to be a free soul then we have to remove all these "body thetans" and pay lots of money to do so. And the only reason people believe in God and Christ was because it was in the film their body thetans saw 75 million years ago.

Well what did you think of that story?

What? You thought it was a stupid story?

Well so do we. However, this story is the core belief in the religion known as Scientology.* If people knew about this story then most people would never get involved in it. This story is told to you when you reach one of their secret levels called OT III. After that you are supposed to telepathically communicate with these body thetans to make them go away. You have to pay a lot of money to get to this level and do this (or you have to work very hard for the organisation on extremely low pay for many years).

We are telling you this story as a warning. If you become involved with Scientology then we would like you to do so with your eyes open and fully aware of the sort of material it contains.

Most of the Scientologists who work in their Dianetics* centres and so called "Churches" of Scientology do not know this story since they are not allowed to hear it until they reach the secret "upper" levels of Scientology. It may take them many years before they reach this level if they ever do. The ones who do know it are forced to keep it a secret and not tell it to those people who are joining Scientology.


Msbullwnkl
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08-16-2005

Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 3:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Msbullwnkl a private message Print Post    
Perez and Us Weekly are reporting that Britney's house has been burglarized....

Perez Link

US Magazine Link



Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 5:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
the similarities between britney and anna nicole and becoming frightening.

sam lufti=howard sterns
anna's house was robbed right after her death.

Dahli
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11-27-2000

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 9:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dahli a private message Print Post    
Wow Julie... if TC believes that, don't even know what to say - I have no words...

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 10:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I heard about the burglary.. I thought her dad had gotten permission to have the locks changed.. so it sounded like they feared some sort of intruder..

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 5:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I really feel sorry for Britney Spears. Sounds to me like she could be suffering from some sort of post partum psychosis, like the woman who killed her children in Texas.

Her parents claimed and a judge apparently agreed that this guy Sam Lufti, was feeding her pills, cut the phone lines in her house, took away all her cellphone chargers, verbally abused her and basically was tryin to take over her money. Court ordered psychiatrists visited her in hospital and basically she is committed in the hospital for at least two weeks and they have declared that she is incompetent to make any decisions and has no idea what is going on around her.

That is just sad, she is such a young person who has something going desperately wrong in her brain.

Curious1
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08-31-2002

Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curious1 a private message Print Post    
I agree Maris that she does have some apparent issues that may be medical but I have to wonder how much of this is the influence of this Sam Lutfi. It sounds like he has had at least 3 different people file restraining orders against him for bizarre controlling and violent behavior...something tells me that he truly may have something to do with Britney's downward spiral and how badly it has escalated.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
keith ledgers tox report will be issued tomorrow morning by NYC medical examiner

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Can't find it in myself to feel sorry for the chick, she gave all of her advisers and family the finger by marrying Federline wearing pimps and hos outfits and having two kids with him, then decided she didn't want to be married to a <77> rapper, filed for divorce and decided to flash her naughty-bits with Paris for awhile before getting REALLY nutz and shaving her head to avoid a drug screen on her hair. And has since largely refused to adhere to the court's orders because, dammit, she's Britney Spears and she answers to no one.

This chick is a danger to society more than herself <77>, and definitely a danger to her children (have you ever seen pictures of her babies clutching each others' hands and screaming in the backseat of her convertible while she corners on rails without regard for their wellbeing?)

She's undereducated. She's over-funded. She's possibly border-line on the Wexler scale, but she's had every opportunity to rely on sage advice from the same people who made her rich and famous in the first place. And she's slammed every door of opportunity in the face of the people who helped her achieve what she has in the first place.

Sorry for her? Nope. I hope her father gets all of her earning in trust for her kids and she is forced to either reckon with her problems or deal with life under the thumb of Osama the Manager. Without funds. She has no thought outside of her own immediate wants. It is only fitting that her wants/needs be given no priority.

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
For me, it isn't personal or about hating Britney. I don't care for her at all, but that doesn't mean I think she doesn't deserve help, if for no other reason than she has children, nothing about feeling sorry for her, she just needs help.
I have worked with the mentally ill and there are many times that they are not such a party to be around and many of those times you want to pull your hair out but at the end of the day you really want them to get help. They don't always want help, because they don't get the whole picture, but it doesn't mean they don't deserve help.

None of us really know about what is truly going on with Britney. Me personally, I have a hard time thinking that all that is displayed and now that she is being held that it is just a bratty hollywood star and tend to think that she is sick and needs help.

Kaili
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08-31-2000

Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
I think it's sad...read this. Very Anna Nicole...

Court Docs: Spears Controlled by Manager
February 05, 2008 9:19 PM EST

LOS ANGELES - A restraining order against the man who's been at Britney Spears' side during her downward spiral portrays him as a Svengali figure who held her a virtual hostage in her home, drugged her, took over her finances and controlled the ravenous paparazzi "like a general."

The order against 33-year-old Sam Lutfi was based on a lengthy declaration from Spears' mother, Lynne, who says they met in October 2007, when he "essentially moved into Britney's home and has purported to take control of her life, home and finances."

Lynne Spears' account of a long, chaotic night at Britney's home depicted a drugged and confused pop star being led around by Lutfi, who was setting up pictures for the paparazzi even as she was spinning out of control.

The documents released by the court Tuesday ordered Lutfi to stay away from Spears, her homes, her parents and siblings' homes and the hospital where she is confined for psychiatric evaluation.

On Monday, Lutfi told The Associated Press in a text message: "I have no problems with anyone writing anything negative against me. My image is not of concern, hers is." He has not responded to further inquiry.

Lynne Spears said in the order that Lutfi "drugged Britney, he has cut Britney's home phone lines and removed her cell phone chargers. He yells at her. He claims to control everything - Britney's business manager, her attorneys and the security guards at the gate."

Much of the 6-page declaration centers on the night of Jan. 28, just a few days before Spears was whisked by police and ambulance to a hospital psychiatric ward, where she remained Tuesday night. Her mother outlined increasingly bizarre behavior through the night, and said her daughter asked at one point, "When do I get to see my babies?" to which Lutfi answered, "Wednesday."

Spears has been in court with ex-husband Kevin Federline over custody of their two small children, 1-year-old Jayden James and 2-year-old Sean Preston. She lost visitation rights last month after refusing to hand them back over to their father.

Lynne Spears described a harrowing night that stretched into the wee hours when she, her husband and a friend went to Britney's home because they'd heard Britney was crying after a fight with Lutfi. Once inside, Lynne Spears said she was told by Lutfi that her daughter was afraid to see her father, and only wanted her mother in the house.

Lynne Spears also said there were several photoggraphers present, who deferred to Lutfi. "The paparazzi reported to Sam and addressed him with great respect," she said. "They treated him like a general."

She said during the evening, "Sam had told Britney she was an unfit mother, a piece of trash and a , that she cares more about Adnan (Ghalib), her current boyfriend, than she cares about her kids and that she does not deserve her kids."

It was unclear how Lynne Spears knew details of the fight.

She said at one point, Lutfi told her, "You'd better learn that I control everything," and said he was the one giving Britney her medications and, "he told me if he weren't in the house to give Britney her medicine, she would kill herself."

She also alleged that Lutfi threatened her. "Then he said to me, 'If you try to get rid of me, she'll be dead and I'll piss on her grave.'"

Throughout the night, she said Britney continued to ask to see her children.

"What do I have to do to see them?" her mother quoted her as saying. "Sam responded, 'Take the pills I tell you to take.' Britney said, 'I don't like the pills and I don't like the psychiatrist. Can't I see another psychiatrist so I can see my babies?'"

At that point, Lynne Spears said, "Sam responded, 'If I told you to take 10 pills a day, you should do what I tell you to see your babies."

She said one time Lutfi raised his voice and said "Why don't you get back with Kevin (Federline)." Britney then said, "I'll do anything to get them back."

Lynne Spears described various medications in the house and said Lutfi told her he ground them up and put them in Britney's food to keep her quiet. "He told us that the doctor who is treating her now is trying to get her into a sleep-induced coma so that they could then give her drugs to heal her brain."

Late that same evening, she said Britney decided she needed to go to the drug store for lipsticks. Before they left the house, Lutfi took Britney upstairs and said he gave her something "to make her more lighthearted, happy and fun."

At the store, she said chaos ensued when Britney's credit card did not work and she started speaking with a British accent. The manager offered to let them leave by a side entrance to elude the photographers, but she said Lutfi insisted they leave through the front door, then put his arms around Britney and Lynne so the paparazzi could take pictures.

A judge has put Britney Spears' father in control of her personal and financial affairs until Feb. 14 while she is evaluated. The singer's child custody case, meanwhile, has been continued until Feb. 19.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Ledger died of prescription overdose

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 8:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Wow. Wonder if it was the same doc prescribing all that stuff or different ones? If different don't they confer with each other??

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 9:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I think he may have gotten some of them prescribed in England, not sure. Plus I think if anyone wanted to abuse prescription drugs, it would be so easy to get a hold of them, especially with celebs. I had an old roommate who abused and she ordered them over the internet.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
People don't realize that some meds can slow your heart down. I'm not a Dr., but I know this has happened with my sil. Who knows what happened in Heath's case? It's just a sad situation.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 9:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Great post Stacey, I agree.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 9:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I think I mentioned this in the health thread before but we recently went through this with my dad. We thought he was going senile. He was talking to himself, confused about where he lived, etc. Will make it short... ended up in the hospital, spent two weeks in a locked pysch ward because he kept trying to *run away*. Turned out he was being poisoned by all his meds. Everytime a symptom showed up, doc threw another pill at him until he was taking a massive # day. They had to take him off of everything and add them back just as needed. If I have the numbers right, he started with 23 diff drugs a day and now takes 8 (so 15 unnecessary presc). Not sure if this happened to Heath or if he was playing games with the docs (drug seeking). Very sad either way.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
On the radio the term 'massive amounts' of prescription drugs were found in his system, including, but not limited to oxycodone (Oxycontin) and hydrocodone.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
TMZ has learned "Designing Women" star Delta Burke checked herself into a psychiatric hospital last week for depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder and "hoarding."

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
OG, what I have heard/read all says amounts were low or within normal dosage amounts. There wasn't a large amount of any particular drug. Death was due to the combination of drugs, all prescription. Isn't it frustrating how the media outlets all have to put a slant on what they are reporting? What happened to impartiality? Ahh, the good old days. LOL

Jan
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 10:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jan a private message Print Post    
In a statement on behalf of the family, his father, Kim Ledger, thanked the actor's fans for their outpouring of support and asked to be allowed to grieve privately.

"While no medications were taken in excess, we learned today the combination of doctor-prescribed drugs proved lethal for our boy," the statement said


Yahoo

Borakove [spokeswoman for ME office]wouldn't say what concentrations of each drug were found in Ledger's blood, or whether one drug played a greater part than another in causing his death.

"What you're looking at here is the cumulative effects of these medications together," she said.



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Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I've only seen that it was a combination of regular doses too. I think it the doses were "massive" they would have been able to tell cause of death at the autopsy, and wouldn 't have needed further tests.

The drugs listed are the generics for the painkillers Oxycontin and Vicodin, the anti-anxiety meds Xanax and Valium, and sleep aids Restoril and Unisom. If what you hear on tv is true those are pretty standard things for people to have prescribed. Add in his respiratory illness and I guess it was just too much. Such a shame.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Someone will get hold of the report and publish the findings. I'd like to see it to erase all the confusion floating about.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 11:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I'm sorry, but if he had that many drugs in his system at once, then he had a drug abuse problem and it's fair to say he died from an overdose. And to say that it was just an interaction of low doses of different drugs seems to sidestep the issue if he had a problem with abusing prescripton drugs. Clearly, to me, he did.

I'm sorry that he died, it's a tragedy, but I think the spin is on the side of DOWNPLAYING his drug abuse problem.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I'm sorry but I disagree Nyheat. This does not show he had a problem with prescription drugs. He was on pain meds and anti depressants. Alot of people are on a combo of those types of drugs. It does not mean they have a problem.