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Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 8:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
I have a cousin who is polar opposite in her political views. Typically I delete any and all of her FWDs w/out reading them. However, the last one wasn't obviously a forward, so I read it before I realized it was political. It was the 'straw' so to speak, so I finally just replied, "Please do not pass on any more political e-mails. I'm one of those liberal-lovin', union member, left-wing teachers! :-)" I tried to keep it light, but it did the trick. Haven't gotten another e-mail since.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Thanks guys. Juju I like yours, but no way would she read all that. I stole a lot from nyheat and a bit from teach (hope that is okay with you both.) How does this come across:

I hope you don't mind me giving you my 2 cents on that social sec. e-mail.

That bill has pretty much been misrepresented--Snopes and other debunking sites say that's not quite what that bill was about.

Basically, the vote asked whether illegal immigrants who had used false Soc. Sec. #s and had thus paid into the system should therefore receive benefits, as in reality they had paid in--just not as legal citizens.

Further, it seems that the real issue was that in the future, these illegals would become legal if this broader bill was passed and therefore they should be allowed access to Soc. Sec. regardless.

You can check it out here:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/socialsecurity.asp

And two things that came to my mind when I read the story about "mom":

1. why is "mom" more deserving that the "illegal" alien?

2. chances are that "mom" has led a much easier life than the illegal alien and had opportunity to open a saving account, invest in the stock market and save for her retirement. None of this is available for so many people who were not lucky enough to be born in the USA.

I honestly hope you are not offended, we go back a long ways, and I just wanted to share my view. I'm one of those liberal-lovin', left-wing, tree-hugging, artist types!

E-me soon!!!

Love, me


Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 9:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Lol, I just hope I got that part right. That's what the article seemed to say to me!

The CIRA link in the Snopes bit goes thru point by point--your friend may still reject the premise that illegal aliens deserve more rights. Good luck!

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 5:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
I might put in something about assuming the person in the checkout line is an alien, illegal or not. Could be native born in the US. Just because someone looks different, does mean they are.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 7:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Or you could just say, "Stop sending me this shit. I find it very offensive."

I did have to do that with one of my former work colleagues who kept sending me racist crap.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 7:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Okay, I added one more point (Pris, I am stealing form you too!) Please read this reply and tell me if you think it is too condescending or would offend her (too much)! THANKS!

How does this come across:

Hi "Jane"

I hope you don't mind me giving you my 2 cents on that social sec. e-mail.

That bill has pretty much been misrepresented--Snopes and other debunking sites say that's not quite what that bill was about.

Basically, (as far as I can tell, as it is rather dry to read) the vote asked whether illegal immigrants who had used false SS#s and had thus paid into the system should therefore receive benefits, as in reality they had paid in--just not as legal citizens.

Further, it seems that the real issue was that in the future, these illegals would become legal if this broader bill was passed and therefore they should be allowed access to Soc. Sec. regardless.

You can check it out here:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/socialsecurity.asp

And two things that came to my mind when I read the story about "mom":

1. why is "mom" more deserving that the "illegal" alien?

2. chances are that "mom" has led a much easier life than the illegal alien and had opportunity to open a savings account, invest, and save for her retirement. (Not to mention the opportunity for a decent education) None of this is available for so many people who were not lucky enough to be born in the USA.

3. I don't think it is fair to assume the person in the checkout line is an alien, illegal or not. Could be native born in the US. Just because someone looks different, doesn't mean they are.

I honestly hope you are not offended, we go back a long ways, and I just wanted to share my view. I'm one of those liberal-lovin', left-wing, tree-hugging, artist types!

E-me soon!!!

Love, me


Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 7:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Oh, for anyone who missed the start of this "dilemma" go to my post of Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 2:10 pm

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 8:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Julie, I get that sort of stuff all the time. I put it to the 'circular' file. I'm trying to live my life in a WWJD sort of way.

Landileigh
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07-29-2002

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 8:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landileigh a private message Print Post    
julie, i wouldn't have gone to all that hassle about this is right, and that is wrong kind of letter, and instead say: "please don't send me forwards." short, brief, end of story.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 9:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
Forwards are meant to be deleted.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
I would have no life if I responded to all of that garbage I get..lol.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Yeah...that's what I was originally trying to say, but whatever.
Good luck with it, Julie.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Julie, if you present your email in the same way she presents her circulars, she might even "circulate" your email to all her friends!

Seriously though, ask her to stop or just forward her email to the junk folder, or you'll be doing this forever.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
You guys are prolly right. The thing is she is just one of my oldest and dearest friends. As close as a sister, really. I really don't even think she is realizing what she is sending (which to me is racist and hateful)... If it were a more distant friend, I'd totally roll my eyes, delete it, and not give it a second thought...

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
If she's as close as that, why don't ya just call her?

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
ARGH! Sorry Julie, but nothing drives me more crazy that the word "prolly"....do me a favor and just add the three other letters, for my own peace of mind.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
LOL, Escapee....how about 'member instead of REmember...or Febuary instead of FebRuary? Do those drive you crazy too?

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
prolly prolly prolly prolly prolly prolly!!!

<runs like hell>

Landileigh
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07-29-2002

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 11:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landileigh a private message Print Post    
<throws EXTRA LARGE PEPSI at scooter and runs like hell!>

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
<intercepts Extra large Pepsi in a move reminiscent of a magnificent football player and tosses some Bicardi and lime in it...then falls like hell>

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
bab bab bab bab bab bab bab (stock up and insert these as needed!!!)

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Say Prolly out loud. It just sounds bad when someone says it not just types it.
Who says Probably without a "b" sound?

Doesn't sound bad when someone says 'member or Febuary....not as bad anyway.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I think most people say "probly" instead of prolly.
And it sounds just as bad to me. lol

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 12:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I get both 'Bs' in. Anybody bothered to look up the correct way to say it?

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, February 04, 2008 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
It's just a pet peeve of mine. I have a lot. I say it with both 'bs', I say February with both R's and I am guilty of saying 'member.