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Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Mary-Kate connection

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
what an odd phone call to make upon finding someone dead, though who can be held accountable for thinking clearly upon finding such a thing??? just odd

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Horrible to consider that if someone had just opened the door at 1 and tried to awaken him then, that things might have turned out quite differently.

Holly
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06-19-2005

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 8:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Seems that an awful lot of time (45 minutes!) was wasted calling Mary-Kate etc., before calling 911!?!

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 8:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I know, sending private security--hello, suggest calling 911 first like a normal person. Seems like a celebrity disconnect there.

Spygirl
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04-23-2001

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 9:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
It wasn't 45 minutes...it says he didn't emerge from his room at 3pm for the appointment, so she went in and started setting up. It indicated she didn't immediately try to wake him...Who knows..Maybe that was only a 10-15 minute difference? The EMS arrive at 3:33.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 9:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Sometimes people have freakout moments too when confronted with something like that. I'll never forget my step dad describing finding his mom. He was a junior in high school (last kid left at home) and he was at school, dad was at work. He came home and went through the kitchen where he expected to find his mom like everyday but didn't see her. Searched the rest of the house, looked out front for her and then went back to the kitchen and only then did he realize he had walked in the door and stepped over her body and never saw her there.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 6:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
My dad just thought my mom was sleeping when she died in her sleep. He didn't think anything about it till he couldn't wake her an hour later. Even then he called me and said 'i can't wake your mom up'. I am the one who told him to call 911.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 7:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
A few more details...sounds like the masseuse had her wits about her, as she called back Mary Kate to say it was an emergency and she was calling 911. It sounds like app. 30 minutes total from the time Heath's body was found until the EMS and security arrived.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/24/heath.ledger.dead/index.html

Holly
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06-19-2005

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
The EMS were there within about 6 minutes of the call. I still think 20-30 minutes is a long time before dialing 911 when there's a dead (?dying) body in the room with you.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I personally wonder if lots of celebrities would prefer staff to delay involving authorities until it is absolutely necessary. Like, maybe the employee culture is one of discretion and secrecy, to protect the privacy of the celebrity.

When I first heard about the whole Olsen thing, I thought that was considerate of the staff, to try to get help within trustworthy sources, rather than it NOT being an emergency, and then pissing off a celebrity because they were too quick to alert authorities.

Think about how many stars have had little mini-overdoses, that got blown up in the press when they are taken to hospital. Or take a look at when Britney collapsed at a club a while back, and was carried out by her staff, practically unconscious, yet was never looked over by medical professionals. They just took her home.

I can see if a masseuse had a good working relationship with a few of these stars, that they might call a fellow celebrity to ask what the best way to handle the situation was. I'm not saying it is RIGHT, but I'm seeing their logic.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I'm sort of neutral on the subject myself, never having been in that situation. I don't fault the masuesse (sp?) for calling Mary-Kate, but I do wish that Mary-Kate had suggested calling 911 as well as getting her security people in there.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I was thinking the same as Eeyore last night. If the masseuse worked with a lot of celebrities she might be used to seeing them under the influence of drugs and being discreet is probably something the celebs want. I am NOT suggesting Heath's case is anything to do with drugs, but the masseuse's assumption might have been that it was something that he would prefer to be dealt with discreetly. It's just such a shame that she let him sleep when she came in earlier - not her fault at all, but you just so much wish she'd been in a rush or something and had woken him up.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Did I hear correct?? That the Baptist Church that picketed that young murdered gay man, years back, will now be picketing Heaths funeral because of his portrayal of a homosexual in Brokeback Mtn.

eta...his name was Matthew Shepard

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Cinn, yep! It's sickening!

http://www.kbsd6.com/Global/story.asp?S=7763918

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
I thought it was the maid that called Mary Kate and it was the masseuse that went and called 911.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
I will also never watch this show again:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/gibson-mocks-ledger/

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
OMG! Hypermom, I don't even know what to say...no words, no words...*heavy sigh*

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 11:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
This group is embarrassingly from my state. I can not stand this group. They were in my city not too long ago at a funeral and they had small kids out there picketing with them and having their children scream these awful hateful things. I was at the light and they were screaming and carrying on, I said to this woman was with her small child yelling that she should be ashamed of herself, she continued to spew anger and hatred toward my direction. <25>

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Stacey, just don't stand too close to them during a lightning strike. I wouldn't.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
I just read it, Hypermom and that is awful!! wow

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
Yeah no doubt! If you are not familiar with this group they now picket all fallen soldiers funerals. It isn't a silent picket either, it is a loud protest, spewing hateful words through out all the services. Sometimes the "Hell's Angels" groups will get involved and insulate or protect the services from this group.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
For goodness sakes. Don't these people have anything better to do than ridicule the dead, disrespect the dead, and use them for their own political agenda? This makes me very, very sad.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Stacey, they are just so hateful. I never knew a group existed until Matthew Shepard died.

Brenda, unfortunately, no. I'm all for freedom of speech, but a death of a loved one, overrules that. imo.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
what do they have against soldiers??
they are definitely not Christians no matter what they call themselves!