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Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Oprah Winfrey getting her own TV network By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer

Oprah Winfrey is getting her own TV network. Discovery Communications and Winfrey announced a deal Tuesday where the Discovery Health network will be turned over to Winfrey next year, becoming OWN — the Oprah Winfrey Network.

The cash-free transaction involved Winfrey turning over her Web site to Discovery, while the communications company makes her chairman of the network, which is currently seen in 68 million homes, said David Zaslav, Discovery Communications chief.

"The focus of the channel will be the focus of Oprah's brand, which is the educate and inspire people to live the best life they can," Zaslav said.

Some of Winfrey's stable of regular contributors could be expected to be part of the programming, he said. Winfrey's current talk show, as well as rights to use of reruns, is spoken for until the end of the 2010-11 season.

Besides hosting syndication's top-rated talk show, Winfrey puts out her own magazine.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080115/ap_en_tv/tv_oprah_channel

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I always thought Dr Drew was just a sex specialist?? Way back when he had that show with the other guy.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Bit off-topic but didn't Dr Drew first get some public face-time when he was the psychiatrist for the BB inmates in Season one?

I thought Oprah already had her own channel? The O(xygen) channel. Am I completely hallucinating? LOL

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I've heard Dr. Drew call himself an "addictionologist".

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    

quote:

Because she IS an adult, she can control if/when she is seen by a "real" doctor and if/when she actually gets real help. Although her behavior is erratic and (most often) incomprehensible to most of us, she is still "in control" of her own life.




Costa... Here lies the problem... IF she is indeed suffering from a mental illness then she is not "in control". The illness is controlling her. What we see as irrational behavior is very normal to her. The reasons she is acting out are very real to her... she is not able to see things with the clarity of a rational mind...

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Good post Karuuna. ITA.

Another thing about mental illnesses is that they are diagnosed from OBSERVING a person's behavior, and the effects of their behavior on the other parts of their life (work, family, social contexts). There isn't much more that a psychiatrist could learn in private about her condition, that hasn't been out in the public eye already.

With that said, I do still acknowledge that there is the medical axis of the DSM, and that medical stuff isn't truly knows. But there are FOUR other axes that doctors can use to diagnose with decent accuracy, from what I've learned so far.

Another thing, with all of the people saying "Britney may have a mental illness", we should be reacting more with sympathy and concern for the said mental illness, rather than worrying about not telling everyone she has one.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Rissa, I had the same reaction... I'm pretty sure the Oxygen channel (which we don't get in Canada, btw) is Oprah's, either that, or we're hallucinating in-tandem. LOL.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 1:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Well Eeyore maybe we should have more sympathy but I just don't.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 1:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
About Oxygen
Oxygen Media is a 24-hour cable television network on a mission to bring women (and the men who love them) the edgiest, most innovative entertainment on television. With innovative shows from such diverse talents as Carsey-Werner-Mandabach and Banyan Productions (Trading Spaces), Oxygen airs more original series and specials than any other women's network. Founded in 1998, the network is independently owned and is currently available in over
74 million households. Oxygen Media also owns and operates www.oxygen.com.
http://www.oxygen.com/basics/about.aspx

Oprah is a co-founder.
http://www.oxygen.com/basics/founders.aspx

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 1:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
You make a really good point, Mocha. It's hard to feel sympathetic toward her, or lots of people with mental illnesses, for that matter. We tell the depressed person on the couch to just "get up"; we tell the suicidal person to stop trying to get attention; and we blame the bipolar person for going off their meds.

I wonder where it is OK to decrease the sympathy. I don't think ANYONE would fault a person with a mental illness for just HAVING the illness. But then, people don't realize that the mental illness often controls behaviors. Depending on its severity, that person may lose most control over themselves.

I had a psychiatrist tell me this analogy once, whn I was in a major (and eventually medicated) depression: If you had a cancerous tumor develop that forced you to amputate a leg, people wouldn't fault you for changing your behavior to use crutches, or need help carrying groceries in, etc. But when your brain is essentially "broken", people don't allow for you to have any change in your behavior. Nobody says "Buck up and carry your own groceries, you freeloader" to the one-legged cancer survivor. But they essentially say it to the person with the mental illness.

It's a HUGE discussion in the psychiatric/medical/legal community. At what point do we take responsibility from the person? At what point do we say "Britney's gone off the deep end; it's time to step in. Her behavior is unacceptable." And then, what should we have a right to step in and do?

Can we hold her in contempt of court, for these family court hearings. Could we try to use that avenue to jail her, and get her some help? What is OK from a society point-of-view is often encroaching on the human rights/civil liberties of the person with the mental illness.



I'll fully admit that I am guilty of thinking Britney needs a good spanking, and punishment. Take her license away, that's for sure. Yet out of the other side of my mouth, I advocate understanding and making concessions for the mentally ill, and I think Britney is probably mentally ill, stemming from the birth of the second child. I am a huge hypocrite in this situation.

I think she is mentally ill. I think that her behavior is magnified because of the press though. We just want her to go away. That's where I think a lot of people's sentiments are coming from, IMO.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 1:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Here's info on Dr. Drew
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Drew_Pinsky

Although referred to by patients as Dr. Pinsky, the name "Dr. Drew" came to be as he started his radio career while attending med school. Not wanting to promote his own name or practice, Pinsky took the over-the-air title of Dr. Drew to separate his professional medical and radio careers

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 1:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
EEY your last post is outstanding, and I applaud you for it! Well said. :-)

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
The problem is, that when it is often clearly "the time to step in", the legal system does not support that at all. Civil liberty doesn't always support that. And of course there can be wild variation is just when is "the time" or where is "the line".

As for medical issues, there is quite often a high level of blame for conditions or percieved neglect of conditions and often complete lack of sympathy, so it isn't at all limited to mental issues.

Obese people are the targets of derision and blame.

Even cancer patients get that.. Did they smoke? Did they drink? What kind of diet are they on? Why didn't they get a checkup, a mammogram, a PSA test?

Personally I don't think Dr Phil was suggesting that HE would treat her medically, or even with therapy, but I'm guessing he'd do what he does in other cases and bring in resources, if she would accept them.

It doesn't take an MD to be the one to reach out and, just maybe, connect with her, build trust, get her to accept help.

Legally, her children need protection, and, as painful as it has to be, and as public as it has been, that is hapenning.

And laws can be enforced when she breaks them, driving, if she is drunk or impaired in public, if she hurts other people or is a threat to herself.

She could be court ordered to get counselling or parenting class to get time with her kids, but seems like, so far, she's continued to violate previous orders, like not drinking for so many hours before a visit, so it is hard to say what might really work. I suspect that, somewhere inside, she doesn't want to hurt those boys, so she continues actions that keep them away/safe.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 2:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
I posted waaaaay back, that Dr. Drew should weigh in...

I am so in tune. LOL

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 2:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
My brother has a mental illness and we no longer have any contact with him. While I understand that he needed to be medicated and counseled, my compassion was for my mother. He broke into her house more than once, taking handguns, rifles, shotguns, and her wedding and engagement rings. He used his knowledge of her Alzheimer's disease to take her for over a hundred grand.

No matter what we tried to do, involving the police or mental health professionals, it came down to the fact that he wasn't physically hurting himself or others. Robbing his own mother, and the elder abuse we dealt with for over 6 months wasn't physical. It wasn't until he got caught with the guns he stole that the cops got involved. He was sent to jail, then to some lame rehab here locally. He was "inpatient" not by choice for a whole 4 weeks. Wow. My mother is STILL suffering, and he is out and just as bad as ever.

It is a slippery slope for sure. On one hand, the person can not help their behaviors. On the other hand, why do their civil rights exceed ours?

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 3:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
((Huk)), my sister in law is mentally ill and in many cases out of control. We found out recently she's been using illegal drugs on TOP of the many medications she's already using. It's a horrible nightmare!!
Thankfully, she's out of state right now. We're getting a break.

I agree that people can't blame Britney's family, because they are helpless in her case.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 3:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Talk about someone who needs help: Tom Cruise talks about scientology. I don't mean it flippantly either, he is way too deep into that organization. I am sure someone will say that everyone has a right to follow the religion of their choosing. In anticipation let me say that I 100% agree, just don't see what that has to do with this organization.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 4:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
you know...rissa...I was reading something about scientology and how the say it was like the Children of God...real cult like...actually pretty scary.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 4:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I find them terrifying personally. At one time I believe the CIA had them classified as a cult but not sure about now. The hardest thing to overcome is that because their business name is 'The Church of...." that people think they are a church and therefore a religion. They are neither and even Mr. Cruise freely says that when asked.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 4:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
Some good news...

Casey Affleck and wife Summer Phoenix welcomed a second child, a son, the actor's rep says.

No other details have been announced.

Affleck, 32, and Phoenix, 30, who were married in June 2006, also have 3-year-old son Indiana August.

Affleck stars in Gone, Baby, Gone, directed by brother Ben Affleck. Phoenix is the younger sister of actors Joaquin and the late River Phoenix.


Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 5:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Boy, lots of celebrity babies being born this week.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 5:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I had NO idea that Casey Affleck was married to Summer Phoenix. Good for them. Oh and if they'd named their 3-year-old Indiana October, I'd understand because it's gorgeous here then. Indiana in August is hot and humid. Hopefully not like their son.

Mainstream media is all over that Cruise video. I'm not going to get into the Scientology thing, because surely we have some members who are Scientologists, but Tom Cruise? Not a great ambassador, unless its to the Church of TehLoon. I'm actually curious about who leaked it, since it was an internal video shot in 2004 (post-Penelope but pre-Kate). Clearly it wasn't intended for uninitiated and uneducated suppressives like myself, all with thetans in my pants and whatnot.

Anyway - watching Shepherd Smith go to town on him will be worth the price of admission. I hope Olberman gets a piece of him, too. Cruise needs to dial it down about oh, say, 500 notches.

And I'm tired of hearing that Katie Holmes is a fashion icon. She is not. Just because Tom Cruise has decided it is so doesn't mean it's reality. Except I forgot he can bend space and time with his mind but, whatever. Clearly I haven't gotten the memo yet or something. As far as I can see, she's knockneed, awkward and trying too hard to keep up with Posh. Man did I laugh when Posh landed at the top of Blackwell's worst dressed list. But that's another post . . .

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 5:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Rissa, I went to check out that video, and guess what I found instead:

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of Scientology International."

Darn.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 5:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
This link still working 11pm board time 1/15

Just an FYI for anyone interested. Cruise's and/or Scientologists' lawyers have managed to shut down most of the video uploads. THIS SITE still has it up and says they will not take it down anytime soon. Having fun reading the viewer comments underneath as well. LOL

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
OK, that's just weird.
What is KSW?