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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 4:59 pm
This is so tragic. My heart goes out to his family. How proud they must have been of him to have accomplished so much in his young life. He was a caring and compassionate man. He reminds me of James Dean in many ways.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 5:12 pm
I followed the link to complain about Gibson's comments, but it would not allow me to post (or even preview). If Fox news doesn't do something about this man's hate-mongering, they are showing a severe lack of discretion and credibility -- particularly for a NEWS network!
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 5:14 pm
TexAnnie, My understanding of it, no wait, I have zero understanding of it, and I certainly don't research or follow anything about them BUT I think that they say that the soldiers killed in war are the punishment to us for tolerating homosexuality. They are very radical and they are in large numbers. I had only heard about them before, they are in Topeka. Then I was driving in Kansas City around town and literally saw this mob of screaming people with kids screaming and carrying nasty signs, when I say kids, it is literally like 6 years old that are yelling these nasty derogatory things, it is really unreal. It is disgusting. They are all over the news here again because of the Heath funeral. BLAH On another Hollywood note, did you all see that Amy Winehouse went in to rehab today? After finding video of her smoking a pipe this week, I would say that was a smart move Amy!
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 7:04 pm
I have to say I'm still reeling a bit from this poor boy's death. He was so talented, and so handsome, and so charismatic on screen. And the poor <24> died alone, with just a housekeeper and a masseuse in the next room who didn't know him enough to realize he was in distress. I really, really liked this guy onscreen. He seemed grumpy <24> offscreen, but then again he didn't go around courting the media and tended to throw hand gestures when he realized they were invading what he thought was his privacy. Because I just adore her Back to Black and Frank albums, I've been stressing Amy Winehouse getting her shit together. After Heath Ledger's death, I've been all "whatever, <24> you don't seem to care about anyone else." Basically because he seemed like someone who had everything going for him and appreciated it, and she just . . . doesn't give a shit about anything but her next hit of crack and showing up for Blake's hearings (cracked out). I can't understand why Michelle Williams is being given the widow's treatment. They had a child together and she left him 6 months ago. Maybe it was because of the drugs, I strongly suspect it was. But they weren't married. She has a child who was his next of kin. But Michelle escorting his body home? Her being the last word on how Heath's life was led? I don't think so. She may have decided that she needed to get the baby away from his behavior; she may have decided that they both needed to be away from his behavior. But in the end, she took the baby and abandoned him and his problems. Is it her fault? No. But she also isn't the widow. I understand that she's the mother and legal guardian of his next-of-kin. But Michelle decided her (and her daughter's) best chances were without him than with him. If I were his family, I'd be a bit disgusted with the widow's treatment that Michelle is receiving. He's had at least three girlfriends I could name since Michelle decided to leave him, all of whom were seemingly active at the time of his death . . . Mary Kate Olson, Gemma Ward and Helena Christensen. And his serious ex, Naomi Watts, was supposed to have been a very close friend. But Michelle returns to New York from Sweden to arrange/accompany his body back to Oz? What is that. And maybe that was good for Michelle and the baby, to not be involved. But not good for Heath. Maybe this would have happened anyway, and maybe she knew it and wanted to distance herself and their girl from it, I think that would be fair to give Michelle that room. But for pete's sake, you are not the adoring and grief-stricken widow. You are nothing but the mother who has to raise the 2-year-old without her father, but with his residuals. Alot of money, and people who want to help. You and she are going to be fine. Heath, on the other hand . . . his story has arced and frapped in. I'm more worried about his parents and sister than with with Michelle and Matilda. They are both going to be rich and well-looked after. Heath? I hope he is more worshipped and adored than James Dean (he is from near my home, I can't stand the adoration he receives). I'm just ... I just wish I could see what he would have done in the future. Brokeback was a truly heartbreaking performance, and like Daniel Day Lewis I was really looking forward to what this kid could do in his future. And they Academy may have thought they had all the time in the world to reward him, even though his performance was truly the best of the year (nothing against Truman Capote, but he had a model and a charicature to model his performance against that year).
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 7:27 pm
GAL, I could sit and read your words all day long. I just adore you!
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 7:27 pm
I dont think he died of a drug overdose. The rolled up twenty dollar bill did not test positive for drugs according to the NY police commissioner. There were no illicit drugs found in his apartment. Christopher Plummer said he had a terrible flu in London and most of the crew thought he had walking pneumonia. I think his death was a tragic accident and I am betting we will get a cause of death as tragic natural death.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 7:29 pm
Wow, I don't know the story of their breakup but I assumed it was him leaving her...and she was the wounded party..but from interviews with his "people", they say that they had remained very friendly and talked everyday on the phone.. I would think that Michelle and his family would still be on good terms... Its so sad, so much promise..
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 7:34 pm
The thing about Heath Ledger is he looked so pallid for a while there. When I see someone with that sickly pallor I wonder if they have an underling health problem that has gone undiagnosed. I'm not suggesting drugs, more like a weak constitution. Seems that the life of an A-lister can be very demanding and maybe his body just gave out from the stress. Of course just speculation.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 7:52 pm
Maris, I hope to hell we don't receive a cause of death that is related to illegal drug use. Based upon what I've heard of the kid and his propensity towards drugs abuse, I'll be surprised if it wasn't involved. Doesn't mean I'm any less distressed by his passing. I just love this guy.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 8:02 pm
I would think if he died of complications of pneumonia, that would have been determined in the autopsy.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 8:03 pm
I am putting this here because it grows out of the Tom Cruise videos for the CoS. Anonymous hackers take on the Church of Scientology In part the article reads: In response to the take-down of the Cruise video, a group of vigilantes--calling themselves Anonymous, or Anon--have retaliated against what they consider to be Internet censorship. The group includes computer experts capable of Internet mischief. In recent days, local chapter sites for the Church of Scientology have been defaced, and in some cases denial of service attacks have also prevented access to the same sites. Real-world attacks have included fax-spamming those same offices. As an explanation for these attacks, Anonymous posted its own video to YouTube. In the video, a computer-generated voice speaks over a rolling cloudscape, effectively putting the Church of Scientology on notice: "Over the years, we have been watching you, your campaigns of misinformation, your suppression of dissent, your litigious nature. All of these things have caught our eye. "With the leakage of your latest propaganda video into mainstream circulation, the extent of your malign influence over those who have come to trust you as leaders has been made clear to us. Anonymous has therefore decided that your organization should be destroyed, for the good of your followers, for the good of mankind, and for our own enjoyment. "We shall proceed to expel you from the Internet and systematically dismantle the Church of Scientology in its present form." The video ends, with the following statement: "We are Anonymous We are legion We do not forgive We do not forget. Expect us." Here is the video in question
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 8:06 pm
I was thinking it would be nice to have that happen to Fred Phelps' sites...
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 8:08 pm
Local news says now says several calls happened between the masseuse and Mary Kate, I think four, before 911 was called. Apparently she was dating the actor. Accidental overdose was mentioned again, but inconclusive of course until toxicology report comes out next week. (CW11 news)
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 8:18 pm
Amen, Sea
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 8:20 pm
Say it loud Sea, maybe they will hear you.
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Herckleperckle
Member
11-20-2003
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 9:33 pm
Well, I have no way of knowing if any of this is true, but I heard (some tv news show, can't recall) that Michelle left him because of his drug use. That she tried and tried to get him to leave it alone for 2 years. And then, she just made a decision to leave for her health and the child's. It may be, you know, that the parents really like Michelle--and knew about the issues. And that it was with their blessings that she accompanied his body home. Course I want to hear that illicit drugs were not involved. That it was a tragedy--due to the mix of his walking pneumonia and what turned out to be a bad mix of prescription drugs. (I fell in love with him after watching Ten Things I Hate About You. He was really something in this little film.)
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Herckleperckle
Member
11-20-2003
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 9:39 pm
Has someone already posted this? The news on CNN that the Church of Scientology has sent all manner of media warnings that if any of them show that recently ridiculed video of Tom Cruise (going on and on about Scientology and never making a whit of sense) again, they will sue them. (Evidently a site called the Gawker sent a letter in return, refusing to acknowledge any legitimacy in their warning/threat.)
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 10:21 pm
yeah, Herc. if you go onto gawker's main page (www.gawker.com), and on the top links for their site, they have one completely dedicated to Tom Cruise and his Scientology. And, yes, they still have the video up.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Friday, January 25, 2008 - 6:36 am
CoS sues everyone. LOL Everytime one of them releases a musical toot, they copyright it. Would love to know what their annual budget for that amounts too. If the rest of us aren't carefull we will wake up one morning and find a lawsuit under our doors for reciting the alphabet. LOL
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, January 25, 2008 - 6:46 am
The original form of this story was as a blind item, one that was pretty hard to read because of so many characters (everyone knew who they were talking about). Someone on the Clambake board took the trouble to put the names with the bi characters, and this is the result. The story is about how Tom Cruise pissed of Steven Spielburg during the year of the crazy, when they were promoting War of the Worlds and Tom was jumping on couches. I have NO idea whether this account is true, but it certainly sounds plausible given the personalities involved: The Year of The Crazy
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, January 25, 2008 - 7:28 am
interesting story. the only thing that seems odd is that Spielburg and Capshaw have been married for what? 15 years or so? Cruise has been stewing all that time about her??
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Friday, January 25, 2008 - 8:42 am
We shall refer to Moviestar 3 as 'Mr. Ocean Lover' and to Moviestar 4 as 'Mr. Hard to Catch.' RFLOL Very subtle.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, January 25, 2008 - 8:48 am
Pitt and Clooney is who I thought..did i guess right?
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Friday, January 25, 2008 - 8:55 am
I just read somewhere that Angelina and Bradd are expecting twins. Not sure if that's true or not...
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Friday, January 25, 2008 - 8:56 am
I was thinking Clooney for Ocean Lover and Leo DiCaprio for Mr Hard to Catch (as in Catch me if you can)
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