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Serate
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08-21-2001

Friday, February 01, 2008 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Jack is a pure bred Shih Tzu and will be 7 months old on Feb 4. We got him August 25. Zippy is a 2 1/2 year old cat. We also have another cat Eddie who is 9. Jack loves the cats, Eddie barely tolerates him, and Zippy instigates chases but never lets Jack near him. I need to add Eddie is 14lbs, Zip is 17lbs, and Jack is 13lbs. Jack cornered Zippy and for once Zippy was terrified. [If Jack corners anybody it's usually Eddie, and Eddie usually instigates it.] I do what we normally do, just walk over and say in a kind but firm voice Jack no, let Zippy go. Do not put my hands near either of them. [The one time we had to actually break it up we just stepped between them and then picked Eddie up.] Jack did what he always does, backs off and Zippy ran downstairs where Jack - for now - can't go. I went back to the loveseat, noticed Jack staring at me then all of a sudden he jumped up, growled really mean, and dug in. Had to pry his mouth off of my hand. At first I wasn't panicy, just firmly saying No Jack No Bite No Bite. But the longer he held on, the more it hurt, and the more my feelings were hurt I guess you could say. So at that point I did start yelling as I was trying to pry. When I got him off of me he sat on the floor just looking at me. I was so shocked I know I did the wrong thing, I just said very loudly No Jack Bad and went downstairs. Ignored him when I came upstairs,and yes I was crying like a baby and he tried to lick my face and I would just move. So he finally went into the cage, shut the door, and is still in there.

Like I said 1 incident doesn't make a mean dog but I have no idea what I did to cause it, how to remedy it.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Friday, February 01, 2008 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I don't think you did anything wrong Serate. Sounds like you were completely caught off guard!

I don't know much about dogs, but I think it's time for some doggy training. That, or think about whether you want an unpredictable dog in the long run. You're the master here and don't be afraid to take control!

Serate
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08-21-2001

Friday, February 01, 2008 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
We're set to start beginning training February 9. $100 for an 8 week course, but I'm thinking Jack and I will both get good out of it. It's for basic commands, walking on a leash, they will cover potty training [we had no problems with that] and things of that nature. Had to wait that long to get a class that was for small dogs. While he'll probably be the biggest dog in his class - when we signed up there were two Chihuahuas and the class closes at 5 dogs - I didn't want him in a class with German Shepherds or Rottis or dogs of that size. He's not afraid of anything and thinks everybody and everything loves him and should allow him to love them. So hopefully I'll get some hints in the class. But I still have a week till it starts.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Friday, February 01, 2008 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
It sounds like Jack is pouting in his cage, and is too mad/ashamed to do anything else! Just give each other a wide berth for a while and hopefully you'll both be ready for doggy training next week.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, February 01, 2008 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm not an expert but I don't think it is a good idea to say Jack's name when you are disciplining him. Just say NO!

I'm sure you give him a whole bunch of love and attention already but I'm going to suggest that maybe Jack should get some extra attention. It sounds to me like Jack got a bit jealous. I am a bit surprised that he appeared to think it over though. I wouldn't punish him by ignoring him for too long at this point. He'll just be more hurt and confused and I don't think he will understand and it will probably make things worse.

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Friday, February 01, 2008 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasper a private message Print Post    
It sounds to me like he was trying it on with you to see how far he could push it. He is still a puppy and it sounds like he wanted to show he was in control not you. Like "well I'll show you who's boss" and jumped up to bite you. There is nothing you can do about it now after the fact but I would definitely take him down like OG said if he looks about to be the agressor with you again. I've never had a little dog, a Rottie and the Berner and you can't let behaviour like that start with them. I do understand your sadness that he could do that to you but I wouldn't take it personal it sounds too me like he wanted to show his dominance and the answer to that if there is a next time is NOT! Cheer up he still loves you.

Dahli
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11-27-2000

Friday, February 01, 2008 - 2:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dahli a private message Print Post    
I would talk to the breeder, and find out if they have any ideas. I always go to the breeder of mine even six years later if I have any concerns about health or temperament...

There is no need to abuse an animal but being kind is not what they need. The first thing I would do is make sure Jack is kept off any and all the furniture, and fed only after doing something for each piece for a while, he needs to know who is boss and withholding affection (which includes treats and free feeding) upping the exercise (him walking behind) and discipline would be my suggestions. Making yourself big and strong not only physically, but emotionally is important. Good luck!

If you haven't read any of Cesar Milan's books I can't recommend them highly enough.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Friday, February 01, 2008 - 5:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
Cesar had a great recommendation for small dogs, if they act up like that pick them up by the scruff of their neck just like the momma dog does and it will make them submissive. I did this to my Chihuahua when she was a feisty pup and had to hold her back legs up lightly because she yelped like I was killing her otherwise. It made her calm down and know that I was the momma dog (pack leader). We did training at Pet Smart and that helped alot too. Good luck and I ditto Dahli's recommendation on the Cesar books!

Dolphinschild
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06-21-2006

Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 1:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dolphinschild a private message Print Post    
I have a question. My brothers dog (who my brother dumped on my parents lap while he is not able to take care of himself little alone her) is about 7 and she had puppies a few days ago. We lost them all unfortunately. The little momma besides being depressed, her poor ninny's are so full of milk and she is miserable. Does anyone know what we can do to help her with her getting her milk to dry? I have been spending a lot of time with her and hand feeding her, but I don't know what to do for her ninny's. Any suggestions? Also need to bring her weight back up. The puppies during pregnancy about sucked her body dry. She looks like she was starved to death and I have been hand feeding her hot dogs and canned dog food. Any suggestions what else I can give her to help her recover?

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 1:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
DC I put the word out to DogDoc who is a Vetrinarian. She hangs out in the Animal Farm area here at the clubhouse, but I've asked her to take a peep in here and see if she can give you some advice. Good luck with your poor doggie, hon.

Dolphinschild
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06-21-2006

Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 2:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dolphinschild a private message Print Post    
Thanks Ms. Mame! I appreciate it. Hugs...

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Call animal shelter and ask if they have any orphan pups? Tell them your situation.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Has the dog actually been to the vet's office? I would rush her right in.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 4:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Dolphinschild click here it's where I reposted your question for Dogdog.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginger1218 a private message Print Post    
Today I watched on the WE channel, America's Cutest Puppy. I watched it for 5 hours. They were soooooooo cute.

Theowl
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09-28-2000

Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Theowl a private message Print Post    
I can't stop watching the "Puppy Bowl" on Animal Plant. I wish I could, but I CAN'T!!

Dolphinschild
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06-21-2006

Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dolphinschild a private message Print Post    
Wanted to let you all know that Sheba is doing a lot better today. She has spark in her eyes, her milk is drying nicely and she came to greet me with inthusiasm instead of me going to her. So I think we are through the roughest part. Thanks for the support. Hugs...

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 5:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Ah, that is such good news. Poor mama dog! She needs to be spayed as soon as possible.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
OG I didn't see your post when I posted to Mocha. I'll try that in the future. Couldn't have this time because he had my right hand in a death grip and I have no strength in my left hand.

Jack tried to bite me again Friday night. Hubby took care of it with a whop on the butt and a firm no. I wasn't happy about the whop. Jack ignored me as much as possible yesterday. Last night I told hubby he HAD to start taking Jack out on a leash like I started Friday or it was just me punishing him. And the leash is not about me punishing him, but that's what Jack would think. And I told hubby he was coming to the first few classes. With only 5 at the most there, he should be able to stand behind and listen in. If we both don't consistently do the same things, then it's $$ down the drain. But I told him more importantly, if Jack doesn't "get" it, it will be either Jack or me. I don't know why I am feeling so cold about this.

I took him to get weighed on Friday afternoon. He has gained 3 ounces in 3 weeks. Hubby doesn't think he's eating enough and that might be why he's biting. But when we got him neutered they said he was a little too chunky and that he didn't have to lose weight but shouldn't gain weight. So we went from 1 cup of puppy food a day to 3/4 cup of adult food. And at lunch he gets 1/3 can of no salt added green beans and part of a raw carrot diced up. Only 3 ounces, but he's gotten taller and before we got him neutered you could feel his ribs and not see them, but now you can see them very clearly. I mentioned it to the vet tech and he said Jack was ok, and he could stand to lose some weight.

Just hoping that Saturday when we take him in for his first class we can get some ideas.

I'm about ready to say forget about it all and just quit taking him to the vet, and feed him what he wants to eat. My folk's Shih Tzu were raised this way, ate whatever they wanted, lived to be 18 years old, died within days of each other, the way sisters should. Never saw the vet after they got spayed. They were happy healthy loving babies till the day they died.

OK so I'm not going to do that but it just chaps my chi chi's [if I had them] that I am doing every thing the right way and have a potentially mean dog.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 6:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Dolphinschild sure glad to hear Sheba is doing much better!

Dahli
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11-27-2000

Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 12:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dahli a private message Print Post    
Hope the class goes well Serate, let us know how Jack is doing...

Debra
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11-20-2003

Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Debra a private message Print Post    


Cali just wanted to say hi to all.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 5:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Hi, Cali, pretty girl!

Debra
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11-20-2003

Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Debra a private message Print Post    
Ophiliasgrandma, 's from Cali.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Debra, does she have cataract issues? I know sometimes it's just the way the eye photographs.