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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 9:42 am
Yes the newer models have a faster start-up time, but the older ones can still get the job done. (Why does everything we post now, sound like a double entendre? )
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 10:47 am
hahahahahahaha Jimmer!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 12:40 pm
For Tess: http://digital-photography-school.com/blog/alternative-nikon-kit-lenses-review-results/
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 12:50 pm
Jimmer, that's the same thing Bigdog said when I told him about having to get some action shots of him for Julieboo. And then, of course, my older one is also bigger and bulkier and easier to get a good grip on than one of the newer scrawnier models.
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Tess
Member
04-13-2001
| Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 4:14 pm
Thanks for the link, Eeyore. That helps a lot. Juju, you can send Bigdog to me. I know all about sinus infections. I'll trade him for a sometimes temperamental, "busy", eleven-year-old. Or you can have the overgrown kid. Take your pick. As a mater of fact, I can have the temperamental one sent out tonight!!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 4:26 pm
Okay, now I have been spending way too much time researching. I shoulda just did what Juju did and ordered the SD1000. But nooo, I had to think about it too much!!! The SD1000 is an awesome choice, but I just can't get past the fact that it has less zoom than what I currently have in the G6. Not much less, but at times I even want more than the 4x. (SD has 3x.) So I *think* I have my choices narrowed down to the A720 or the SD850. The main diff is the size. The 720 is quite a bit smaller than my G6, but the SD850 is super small-pocket size. (Compact vs super compact.) The 720 draws me to it cuz it has 6x zoom. Plus you can get more lens if you want. BUT then I could always get lenses for my G6. (The A570 is also close here, an excellent choice at an even lower price, but only has 4x zoom and if I'm gonna have a bit of a larger camera, I might as well spend 20 extra to get the extra zoom.) The 850 draws me, cuz it is tiny and has 4x. But is quite a bit pricier than the 1000 and also the 720. If I were practical, I would just get the 1000 and be done with it and save the $$ for a zoom for the G6. But I just wonder if I'd kick myself down the line. The SD1000 is $165, the A720 is $191 and the SD850, I haven't really priced yet, but I know it's about $250. (Is the extra zoom really worth $85?? Or is the 850 that much a better camera??) Oh, the 720 has more features and gives you more control over things like aperture, but I am not sure I would use them. Anyone have any things I should consider or any other input? Thanks for letting me babble here...
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 5:39 pm
Julie, my teacher in a photo workshop I took said that you shouldn't worry TOO much about which you should get, and holding out until everything comes in one camera, etc. etc. He said (and I love the quote), "Tomorrow's camera does not take TODAY'S photos." Meaning stop hemming and hawing, and just pick one so you can get to taking photos! LOL Make yourself a list of what YOU want from a camera, where you're going to use it, what pictures you will take with it, etc. Sometimes a camera can have extra features, but we'll never use them. We need to associate value with specific features, then score our various cameras on the features they have. If you're not going to use manual settings like aperture, shutter speed, etc. then don't worry about needing a camera that has those features. Most P&S Canons don't have manual features. Canon is pretty well known for taking good pictures out of the box, without a lot of need for manipulation. So you won't be unhappy with a fully automated Canon. As for the zoom thing, I think it's good. But if you already have another camera that can use auxiliary lenses, then I think opting for the super-compact less-zoom camera might be good, because you still have a good zoom amount, but it's more portable. Chances are, if you need the bigger zoom, you'll also be able to know to plan to bring the G6. My vote is the 850. Though my personality would have seen the A650 review beside the 720 review, and I would switch to that! LOL
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 5:52 pm
I agree with Eeyore. I have heard good things about the 850 image quality and it is different enough from what you have to be worth getting. Though these are all good cameras and you won't go wrong with any of them.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 6:14 pm
Thanks guys!! I appreciate your thoughts! I am fickle and EE, you are so right about just getting one and take some damn pictures!!!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 6:27 pm
Eeyore, also wanted to thank you for mentioning something earlier about burst (continuous) mode. I never used it before. I figured out how to do it and I know i'll use it a lot!!!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 11:09 pm
No worries. I'm that geek that reads camera manuals from back to front 5 times before even BUYING the camera. I understand wanting to be sure about the purchase. I think the 850 will be a great camera, because I really believe it's good to just ALWAYS have a camera on you. When you're taking the kids out for lunch, or walking to the park, or anything with kids, moments happen all the time that you wish you had a camera to capture. That little camera goes in a back pocket, and boom, it's ready when you need it. I love my pocket camera (Casio EX-Z850). I use it a lot.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 8:01 am
Dell has the 720 on sale for $195 if that is a good price. I suppose my new camera has burst mode, doesn't it? I will probably end up reading the manual eventually, but man, I hate reading those things.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 8:02 am
Yes, Juju, that is a good price!! Thanks! EEyore, do you know what the newer version of your Cascio is (if there is one) ?? TIA
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 12:46 pm
I'm not sure, but my good friend (who also had the Casio) bought a new Casio, and he is loving it even more. I think you should just bite the bullet and get the Canon 850. Me talking about MY cameras just adds to the confusion and indecision. Your head is going to start spinning!! LOL Also, my camera may have fewer features, and less zoom than you want.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 1:35 pm
Well, and Dell has the Canon S5-IS on sale today for $300 if anybody is interested in that one. That is a really good price.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 2:26 pm
I love Casio watches. Maybe I'm a camera snob (LOL) but I can't bring myself to buy cameras from a company who is not specifically known for making cameras. I'm sure Eeyore knows what she is talking about if she says she loves it and takes great pictures with it.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 2:57 pm
I just read a review on a casio that said something about casio having a rep for cheap watches and some might miss out on a good camera.... EEyore, I know you are right!! But just for fun, what casio did your friend get? I really spent a lot of time late last night looking up other cameras and yours looks really cool. 'cept it does not have that zoom I wanted plus something else that escapes me now... I even called casio this am and their customer service people know crap! I knew more about the cameras than they did! I wanted to know if there was any current camera that replaced the now out of production z850. Can't say that they told me anything useful... There is an Exilim EX-Z200 that looks good, but is not out yet and there are no reviews on it. There is also a sony or two that look good, (Sony Cyber-shot DSC-W80 and Sony Cyber-shot DSC-T100) but I do believe the canon sd 850 still reigns supreme in my book... I overthink things too much and I often have buyers remorse, which is what I am trying to avoid. I just really liked some of the casio features, like that ebay one. Also, eeyore, can you explain their best shot feature?? TIA!!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 3:35 pm
Best shot is just another name for a mode that has pre-set settings. For example, a night portrait will have a longer shutter speed, and a quick flash to capture both the person AND the the lighting/landscape in the dark background. Umm...sunset mode would deepen the reds. Kids and pets will enhance flesh tones, and have a fast shutter speed. So best shot just adjusts the camera's settings FOR You, depending on what you are photographing. I use it a lot. But EVERY P&S camera has the "presets" now. Just depends how many they give you, and whether they also let you create your own. Honestly, the camera my friend got really escapes me. I can't even remember what it looked like, because I wasn't going to be buying a new one anytime soon. I just know he had my camera before, he updated to a newer model, and he was so happy with it. Jimmer, ITA. I don't know WHAT it was that made me choose it. I think that specific model was one of the CNET top rated ultracompact P&S models at the time I bought it. My main thing I was looking for was portability. Oh andI think I was getting a sweet deal on it too. I was deciding between my current one, a Sony one (because my first digicam was a Sony DSC-P92), and I think the Canon 800IS (though I can't be sure of the numbers). Combine cost, features, and ratings, and that's what I ended up with. Funny, Canon ends up always in the top, yet I've never chosen one in the end. I ended up with a Casio small one, and a Nikon big one.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 3:42 pm
So, let me rephrase this, so I know i got it, Best shot is not a function in itself, it is just a shorter way of saying "Best shot for night portraits" or "best shot for kids & pets" -- is that correct? So it is just another word for "preset" or "mode"?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 3:44 pm
Seems like the best deals are via the internet and not in a store. Stores here won't even match internet prices. Besides Dell and Amazon, what other online places are worth checking out?
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 5:11 pm
This is a good one. B & H
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Landileigh
Member
07-29-2002
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 5:19 pm
julie, i just looked at the camera you already have. what is it that you want different from that? the G6 is an AWESOME camera!
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 5:54 pm
Okay, so Julieboo shouldn't even get a new camera, and I am okay with just impulse buying the SD1000? LOL.
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Landileigh
Member
07-29-2002
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 6:03 pm
i can see you buying the SD1000, as it just fits in your pocket you traveling dawg you! i just bought the A570IS for $149 through Amazon a week before christmas (it's what my husband got me for my present), and the G6 has what it has, and i'm TOTALLY thrilled with my new camera.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 6:32 pm
Th G6 does take awesome pix. However, it is very cumbersome. I find myself really getting tired of it banging around my neck (and it is heavy too). Also one feature I do not like about it is the amount of time that expires between the time you press the shutter and the time the actual photo is taken. (I think there is a better way to state that, but my brain is tired...) I really have lost a lot of "perfect moment" shots with my cats and kids cuz of this lag time (I think that is what it is called.) I am going to try the continuous burst mode, now that I know about it, and see if that'll help in those situations. landi, your camera is a wonderful camera and if the A720, didn't have the extra zoom, I would get the A570 for $30 cheaper. But I know I want a very small camera. I find myself at a lot of little kid b-day parties and they are often held inside crowded and hot chuckie cheese like places. Like I said, the G6 makes my neck sweat and it bangs around a lot when on my neck. It is not convenient to keep taking it in and out of the camera bag (which just seems really big and bulky.) In my dreams I would love a tiny camera with a wide angle and a heavy duty zoom lens, no manual controls and it would take the perfect photo each time!!!
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