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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 3:20 pm
\iI never really saw Jennifer Aniston as humiliated. ... They all seem like they're doing okay.} She did put up a good front, but things are never as they seem... Add me to the list of women who have zero respect for women who fool around with married men.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 4:54 pm
Lol Goddess, I have a friend who writes screenplays and she begs me to keep notes every day. I cant believe about Christian Brando. What a mess of alife he has had. You know I was thinking maybe Ledger got meningitis. Two people have died from meningitis in NYC in the past week. You just never know.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 6:50 pm
I wouldn't begin to pretend to know the status of any of those marriages at the time of breakup, or if breakup had been discussed prior to that time. I know in my own marriage I came to the decision that it wasn't working and would never work and had become toxic for me (and surely for him as well) but I attempted to be kind and give warning and not just walk out, since I was the one supporting both of us. Didn't work because he wanted to be supported, didn't want to work and didn't want to "fail". But during that time anyone who was around me knew the situation. No one would have been breaking up anything. When I finally did have a reason to physically leave, he still reacted as wronged and as if I was giving up on something viable. Took him at least a couple of years before he actually came to agree that it had been a good thing all round. Not saying any of the celebs are at that oint, but we just don't know. I have a hard time not just hoping that the new relationships WILL work. But I'm a non-forgiver for some other situations.. e.g., I will never see another Woody Allen movie and haven't since he betrayed a parental figure/child relationship.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 7:00 pm
Oh now I'm with you on that Sea bout Woody Allen. That just seemed creepy to me.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 9:24 pm
I think Brad clearly fell for Angelina prior to breaking up with Jen, but that's not proof that he cheated on her. I know you all don't believe Angelina when she says she wouldn't mess around with a married man, but I think it's plausible. If she weaved her web for Brad, tempting him, but telling him seductively that nothing would happen while he was still with Jen, that would be a fairly quick way to get him to dump Jen if Angelina was his hearts desire. It would force him to commit and Angelina seems capable of pulling that off. I like Brad and Angelina together too. Never did like him with Jen and every time I'd hear him talk about how much he wanted kids I'd wonder why he was with a woman who didn't seem to. It doesn't surprise me at all to see him jump ship into an instant family.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 9:54 pm
I was involved with a married man right after my divorce back in 87. Don't hate me, please! The guy was so charming & he told me that his marriage had been over for yrs & they had been seperated for over 6 months. He told me they both knew it was over & were working out the details of the divorce. Well, truth be known - they WERE seperated (geographically only). Wife had stayed in San Antonio so kids could finish school & she could tie up loose ends - selling house, etc. She planned to join him here once everything was in place. You know, he used to tell me that he had to go to San Antonio to take care of business & I believed him. Anyway, I had no idea that he was leading a dbl life until I got a knock on my door and the woman on the other side introduced herself as Mrs. A$$. She said that she was there to beg me to stop seeing her DH & give her family a chance. It broke my heart. I invited her in & we compaired notes: yes, she had been way screwed over more than me but, I had been screwed over by him too. We set him up - not in public. When he came home for lunch w/wife I had already been there for about 10 min. He was horrified! I told him what I thought of him (wife agreed) & I stomped out. Needless to say, they ended up getting a divorce.
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Herckleperckle
Member
11-20-2003
| Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:00 pm
I never understood the Jen/Brad hookup myself. She is probably a very nice person, but I get the impression she is not very deep. My understanding, too, is that she did not want children--at least at that point in their marriage. Angelina is no dummy. I happen to think her overall philosophy about the world and children's lives is a laudable one. (She might not do every single thing to everyone's satisfaction, but I like that her focus is on higher-level things.) I also think she is far more intelligent than Brad. It's my guess that it is Angelina's influence that has motivated Brad to participate in some very worthy community projects. In the scheme of things, that is much more important than all the other nonsense that we watch.
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:56 pm
Here is a tell-all type article about Heath Ledger and Michelle's relationship. It has the ring of truth to it. I hate how in the article it says she was too dowdy for him--I think Michelle Williams is very pretty and was probably just too much of a straight arrow for him. link
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 4:57 am
quote:But Ms White, 34, who worked as a personal assistant to celebrities who knew Ledger, including Naomi Campbell and Anna Friel, said friends ultimately blamed his demise on the tension over Matilda between him and ' straitlaced' Williams. She said: "Heath believed Michelle was going for sole custody.
So this woman works for people who "might" know Heath ledger? Heh. Sorry, but no. If Heath Ledger did have pneumonia or bronchitis or some of respiratory problem, his lung function would be reduced. Sleeping pills further depress breathing, so my understanding is it would be easier for him to accidentally OD on them.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 6:08 am
I don't buy the article either
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 7:58 am
I can buy the operating suspicion that he was jacked up on coke, took pills to put him to sleep, woke up and forgot he'd taken pills and took somemore. I suspect the cocaine abuse was a large reason for the insomnia he complained of last summer. Of course he'd just flown in from London after some hard days on a movie shoot, he could easily have been jetlagged, took pills and fallen asleep, then woke up, forgot he'd taken pills and took somemore. He didn't have to be jacked up on coke for that scenario to work. Who was it, Judy Garland who died that way? Accidental overdose of sleeping pills because she lost track of how many she'd taken. The sleeping on his stomach thing doesn't work for pneumonia, anyone who's had it knows you have to sleep propped up or you can't sleep OR breathe. You spend the night hacking crap out of your lungs. But if he'd drowned because he passed out face down, that would have shown in the autopsy. Did they determine the cause of death for Brad Renfro?
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 8:24 am
The thing is a man of his age, weight and height would have to take a hell of a lot of pills to die from an overdose. I dont know that he could have died from pneumonia either, not being a medical expert I would assume they would have found fluid in his lungs. I am more inclined to think it was some underlying illness which was undetected.
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 8:57 am
The part of the article I objected to was "kicked out of their New York mansion." I've worked and hung out in Boerum Hill, Brooklyn. Ain't no mansions up there--more likely a renovated brownstone. It's a funky little neighborhood and they were trying to live a low key, bohemian lifestyle for a while there. If it was drugs, I think it was the stress on his heart of essentially taking an upper (coke) and downer--the sleeping pills.
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Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 8:58 am
Christian Brando died of pneumonia yesterday.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 10:23 am
Ita Maris. Gal I thought Brad od'd??
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 10:54 am
The Daily Mail is a tabloid, and notorious for its scandalous celebrity coverage. I would take anything printed there with a grain of salt. (I've seen "coverage" in the Daily Mail that was so ludicrous, it was sad, not even funny. These were people/events that I was closely involved with, and thus knew the true stories. It's troubling, especially when other papers report on their "reporting." But that's for the Media thread, I think.)
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 11:15 am
BTW, I was heartened to hear THIS on The Soup last night. Exactly. (For those who have never seen The Soup, it's a comedy show that pokes fun at the most inane segments and people on talk and reality shows. So his point about "never having cause to mention him" is part of the point.)
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 11:48 am
Gal, they haven't really said. I don't think an austopy has been released. But I think everyone is leaning towards that he OD'd because he had a history of drug abuse...
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 1:30 pm
Well *I* am certainly not leaning towards the opinion he OD'd because of his drug use. The initial autopsy said there was no sign of drug residue in his nose and only prescription medication was found in his apartment. Whatever his demons, this rush to judgement over his death is unfair. So far there is no evidence that non-prescription drugs played any part in his death. Presumably we'll hear about the other tests this coming week.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 2:03 pm
Who's judging? I've heard rumours about his drug use since he first showed up in US movies. Are they true? I dunno - he never used in front of me. However, a 28 year old otherwise healthy man doesn't just up and die for no good reason. I was a fan of the dude's. I hope illegal drugs were not involved. But I'm not going to NOT talk about what may be theories in advance of the final autopsy results. He put himself out there as a public figure, and I'm talking about him like he's one.
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Egbok
Member
07-13-2000
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 2:06 pm
Uhmmm...this isn't totally OT because it does involve possible gossip. So GAL, how was your evening?
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 2:08 pm
Gal, I was commenting on Beckie's comment that "everyone is leaning towards that he OD'd because he had a history of drug abuse". I'm not leaning that way until I have evidence of the fact, and so far it's all been just rumours. Sure you can talk about rumours, but don't believe them until there are facts to support them.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 2:12 pm
Egbok, It was very and and and . . (Except no cigarettes LOL). Kitt, no worries.
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Egbok
Member
07-13-2000
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 2:15 pm
GAL, I'm soooo proud of you without the ciggie-butts and it goes without saying, and about last night as well...yay!
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 2:17 pm
When I was 16, a man broke down our back door to get in and rob us. It took him long enough to do it that we had enough time to call 911 and get out the front door to run to safety. The write up in the local paper said "A friend of the family" broke in. We didn't know him! And none of us ever talked to anybody from the newspaper. That was my first lesson about what I read and the truth, and we weren't even celebrities.
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