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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 9:00 pm
Well the boys are home and I am exhausted trying to keep them down. And keep Lucee and Charlie from cleaning them up! Our vet thinks they are the cutest things, she said, but then they have been cute from the day they were born. She said Emmett volunteered to go first...he kept barking so he went first. LOL! We have 6 little tubes/vials of pain medication. Give them each one at night and it will knock them out...that sounds good! Dahli, when does Jackson get to come home? Is he doing okay? I tore my meniscus a couple of years ago and was in physical therapy for months.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 10:21 pm
Yay SG! I'm glad they are home now! They are really cute. LOL on Emmett volunteering! I thought Jackson was already home? We still haven't heard anything about little PJ from anyone yet. Today is day 10 and I'm getting a little worried because she is definitely settling in. Her and my little nephew are having the best of times, they roll around on the ground together and chase each other around. He gets her toys and plays with her. Her and Harvey run around the yard together and lay together in the house. When Caleb got home today, she was sitting by the front door waiting and was so happy to see him her little tail was just a waggin'. She was the same when Dakota got home. At this point, I'm not sure who would be more crushed if an owner showed up. We'd already talked about it and decided even though the vet said to wait 10-14 days, we'd give it a few extra days since it took us a couple to leave a flyer at animal control and get to the vets office. It's going to be a very long 6-7 days!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 10:54 pm
You are just TOO conscientious, War. Good thing I don't live near you.. I'd be sneaking around taking down the signs.. well not really, but mighty tempted to do that. I have a feeling SHE would be crushed at this point to lose all of you. I mean think about it.. she was all bedraggled and huddling on a porch, mistaken for a frog, and then she got a whole family including another dog and lots of cousins too..
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 11:39 pm
LOL well she was only mistaken for a frog cuz we couldn't see her huddled in the corner. I did have another reason for coming in here though. We're having another minor problem with her and I'm not quite sure what to do about it. The last few nights she's been waking up somewhere around 2-3 going hyper! Since I'm not sleeping real well right now, for a while it's not a big deal because she can run around the living room and go outside. But, as soon as I put her in her crate and take her to bed (when she should go back to sleep) she starts to scratch and whine and jerk her blanket around letting us know she wants out and to play. Reminds me of a baby that has their days/nights mixed up. We've been trying to keep her more active in the evening and before bed I take her outside to go potty and run around for a couple minutes but she's still sleeping rather early and then up way too early. Darren told me she was so wound up night before last and then last night that he brought her out to play while he was getting ready for work, took her outside, then put her back in the crate before he left, but it didn't help any. She was so noisy she ended up waking the kids up and I had to bring her crate out to the living room. I think she might be a little lonely, but she's so little and not house broken that we don't want her wandering around the bedrooms at night finding weird places to go potty and I don't want her playing when she should be sleeping. Harvey stays up with me, goes outside before I go to bed, then he gets in bed with one of the kids. He gets up with Darren, goes outside again, and then goes back to bed. He gets up with Caleb in the morning. We never taught him this schedule it was just something he did so I really don't know how to teach the puppy that she needs to play in the early evening and sleep at night. Any suggestions?
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 11:54 pm
Maybe she's sensing the tension and worry that she could be leaving, another "very long 6-7 days" of someone perhaps claiming her? I bet when the time is up and the chip gets planted, things could settle down some. It's going to be a "very long 6-7 days" while we're ALL waiting and worrying behind you! This is worse than waiting for Christmas as a kid, I gotta tell you!
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Friday, January 11, 2008 - 12:03 am
Dahli, I'm so GLAD Jackson's surgery is behind him. It's going to be a struggle, I'm sure, but this is a big step forward. I just hope he mends clean and super FAST! SG, I'm delighted to see your boys are home safe and sound. Had to laugh that Emmett was the smaller of the two - isn't HE the 'Keeper of the Food Bowls'? Roared over your remark: "She said Emmett volunteered to go first...he kept barking so he went first. LOL! "
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Friday, January 11, 2008 - 12:16 am
Serate, WHEW! Jack looks like he came through with flying colors. Can't tell you how nice it is that you went through with the chip! After all, look at what conniptions we're all going thru with War's Princess due to lack of a chip! When my kitty Thelma got the collar after surgery, she walked everywhere BACKWARDS, never complaining though. So comical, just wish I had home movies, it was a good week of walking backwards. Beachcomber, I will be sending positive vibes towards Gracie next week. Tooth cleaning isn't fun, but it sure is better than painful bad teeth later! Danged, it's hard giving up the furbabies even for a day, isn't it?
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Friday, January 11, 2008 - 12:32 am
War, THAT'S what I've been meaning to mention. Not sure if you have a JoAnn's fabrics. But I was in there a couple days ago, buying ribbon for a joke present for my Sis. Anyway, they had hot Pink ribbon with "Princess" etched at brief intervals. A roll, where you buy it by the yard, 1-inch wide, bumpy not smooth, BRIGHT pink ribbon with big lettering. If you can't find but want some, let me know okay? Pretty funny looking.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Friday, January 11, 2008 - 12:54 am
Oh cool, I'll have to check them out and see if they have that ribbon here. Of course, then Dakota will have her wearing a dress or a skirt, lol!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, January 11, 2008 - 1:33 am
Happy all the surgeries are going well, or at least are over. Dahli, I lost a post last night, but what I was wondering is if you have a veterinary school somewhere around you, or an animal PT/rehab place that had a pool or tank where Jackson could swim?? That would be a stress free way to exercise and rebuild muscle while healing..
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Friday, January 11, 2008 - 9:45 am
WG, the night life is annoying isn't it? I was wondering how much actual walking is done during the day as opposed to playing? Tell ya, reading this Cesar Millan book really opened my eyes as to the importance of a loooong walk or even two for a dog no matter the size. He says we don't exercise or discipline our dogs enough and give them too much affection which creates an unbalance. The other thing I wondered and wasn'te enitirely sure of when reading your post was is the crate in your room with you at night? The fact that pack animals are designed to whine to alert the pack if they're separated from it makes sense to them but annoys the crap out of me.Apparently touching or speaking to the dog if they whine lets them know they are with the pack... but it sounds like it may be more than that for you guys. Seamonkey, we do not have anything around here with that kind of set up the closest is about 2.5 hours away if you drive fast and isn't really an option. SG, I'm glad they're home and that you have some magic vials! LOL! The sleep thing is key for me, and I asked for something to knock Jackson out too, so I could sleep, otherwise I'm half awake listening all night. I am not sure what the PT options or routine will be for a missing meniscus, but just the idea of it makes me wince. -ouch-
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Friday, January 11, 2008 - 10:48 am
I agree Dahli, that makes me wince too! The first time we put a leash on her, she totally freaked out. Absolutely hated it, so we've been going slowly. First put her on the leash and walked her around the living room, then around the backyard. We're now making it just about two houses before she starts to make it clear she's just not enjoying walking on the leash. I'm hoping we'll be able to work up to real walks soon. She sleeps in her crate in Kota's room. Harvey's allowed to sleep with either one of the kids (he usually splits the night between them) and if she stays eventually she'll get to sleep with one of them too. We had a much better night last night, but before I went to bed I turned on Dakota's little night light and when I got up this morning Harvey wasn't in bed with her but laying on the floor in front of the puppys crate. I thought maybe having the little bit of light helped, but maybe it was Harvey being right there?
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 10:14 am
Biscotti, I liked the mends clean part... that is a key issue as this incision is UG-LEEE. and he's so BALD! anyway so far so good, and I'm starting to feel a little less tense as he's sleeping well and appears to be as comfortable as can be expected. So far so good
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 6:44 pm
Dahli I'm so glad he's doing well so far! PJ decided to go out back and have some fun digging a hole earlier. She then found out that when you come in the house muddy you have to take a bath. She was not very happy about that! I rinsed her off before putting her in the water, but still ended up having to drain dirty water three different times. She still wasn't happy!
Then she had to sit through being dried, brushed, and shaking herself out before she finally got some Dakota lovin'.
She's still not happy with me, lol. She went and laid down inside her crate and won't come out now.
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 7:01 pm
LOL!! Wargod you are discovering that little dogs can be real Divas!! The Princess is darling. I wonder if when you take her out of your house she equates that with being lost before? Who knows what goes on in their minds? And why? I know the Dog Whisperer is pretty cool but I think even he has to be puzzled at times.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 12:46 am
That could be part of the problem with taking her for walks on a leash. I know the few times we've taken her out in the car she's really nervous and shaking and I was torn between thinking she just hates car rides or worried that she might get lost again. I just calmly tell her where we're going and that we'll be back and hoped that would help.
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Calamity
Member
10-18-2001
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 9:39 am
Those photos are too cute!
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 1:39 pm
Ohhhh War ... PJ is so cute!!! My Maggie is still nervous after having her for almost 3 years but she's getting better. It took one year before she'd actually walk through my kitchen. She still doesn't like cars but we find it helps if we bring my pillow for her to lay on. I'm sure her nervousness comes from what she's been through. I'm sure the same is true for PJ. Give her time. I'm so glad you've all got each other!!! PS ... Dakota is just beautiful!!
Nick and Maggie this weekend and look ... she's on my pillow. lol!!
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 1:46 pm
Lol War! Aww great doggie and kid pics.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 3:08 pm
LOL that's just too cute Nick! I have noticed some nervous behavior though a lot of it just could be normal puppy stuff, I dunno. She's scared of the vacuum and the broom, she doesn't like air freshners. She's nervous around new people. We've also noticed that sometimes if we call her or suddenly bend down to pet her she sometimes moves backs like she is scared. And then other times I expect her to be nervous, like the girls the other night wrapping her up in a blanket and carrying her around like a baby, she just loves. Hehe, yesterday my bil called me a big meanie. He came over to pick up his girls and asked where the puppy was. I said if she isn't playing with them and isn't under the desk, she's in her crate. He called me mean for leaving her in there...during the day we leave the door open and she does go in there several times just to sit or nap. He said they've never had a dog that likes to be in the crate. Neither have we, until PJ, and she'll just be sitting or laying around and go get in it.
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 7:26 pm
It's great that she likes her crate... after going through this surgery with Jackson the vet says it's heart breaking to see a dog who hasn't been properly crate trained, because they have the hardest time with confinement. One that knows and feels comfy in their little 'den' struggles less with any occasion that requires they be confined... People unfortunately think dogs think like people. Doesn't happen.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, January 14, 2008 - 7:40 pm
Crate training can be a blessing. Think if there was an earthquake or other disaster.. crate training would be essential. We used to pretty much demand that people buying our lab pups would promise to get them a crate and train them. Such cute pics of the pups and the kids!
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 3:45 pm
I should have clarified our dogs are always crate trained, so Jackson is ok just not liking it cuz he thinks he should be able to do what his sister is doing... Sea makes a good point and how wise to ask your buyers to do that - you just never know when they need to be confined and they should like it. Yes MORE pix please!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 3:59 pm
came here for the first time in months. So they had to completely remove the knee minisc? What did they replace it with? surely they didnt leave it bone to bone...I'm hoping. In humans they can use artificial replacement. not sure what they do for dogs.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 1:05 am
Heh, the funny thing is we really weren't trying to crate train her. We've never used crates, though with Harvey when he was a puppy we used baby gates to confine him in the den or laundry room at night or when we were gone. I just happened to remember sis had the crate for when her Ozzy was hurt and had surgery and called to ask if she still did. We weren't encouraging PJ to go in there, except at night, she just did it on her own. I'm glad it's a good thing though! Her and Harvey are having so much fun together. For a minute it looks like they are fighting and then you look closer and realize they are playing. She nips at his legs, he headbutts her or shoves her....but she's not really catching his legs and he's being very gentle. Both seem to know too when the other is done playing and then they lay down together. They're curled up on the couch sleeping together now. I've never had an older dog and a much younger one like this before, but I'm almost positive that Harvey seems to be teaching her stuff. He will go get her if she doesn't follow him outside to go potty! Earlier today, I caught him at her food dish and scolded him, then immediately felt guilty because I saw her standing over eating his and he wasn't eating hers, he was just standing there. She eventually got the message and went over to her own food and he went to his, lol. It struck me then that he seems to be showing her the ropes! Am I crazy? It was just so strange. The only area we are having a real problem (outside of the still being iffy about house breaking and she still is chewing on stuff even with the bones) is her and my nephew. They love to play together but sometimes they are just too enthusiastic about each other. Little adopted sis was cracking up at me yesterday. They were on the floor and she yelped and he said ow at almost the same time (she stepped on his face, he pulled her fur.) I told him NO, she's just a puppy and he has to be very careful not to hurt her and then turned around and told the puppy NO, he's just a baby and she has to be very careful not to hurt him. Little adopted sis lost it, lol. I just have to keep a real close eye on them and keep reminding them to be gentle. We still haven't recieved a single call about the missing dog flyers. Nothing in the paper and nothing out at animal control though I do plan to go out and check once more before I give up.
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