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Naja
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06-28-2003

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 6:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Does anybody have any objections before I hit "buy" for this configuration.

•Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0Ghz CPU
•ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP Motherboard
•2GB Dual-Channel DDR2 800Mhz Memory
•320GB 7200RPM Serial ATA300 Hard Drive
•20X Samsung Double Layer DVD+/-RW w/Nero
•512MB GeForce 8600GT PCI Express w/DVI

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 6:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
If you click on the link above, you should get a window where you can save the file which is named StartupCPL_EXE.zip
If you save it to your desktop, you can right click on the StartupCPL_EXE.zip and select "Extract Here". That would place the executable named Startup.exe on your desk top.

You would double click Startup.exe to launch the tool.

The direct link to the download is:

http://www.mlin.net/files/StartupCPL_EXE.zip


Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 6:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
I think I've done everything correctly, but don't get anything that shows list of stuff on start up. What now? I am so challenged. I've got the Startupcpl zip file and Startupcpl folder on my desk top now.

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 6:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
Is there a Startup.exe in the folder?

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Yes, when I right click on the icon in the folder it says "run" or "cancel". Run?

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 6:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
Colordeagua: Yes, select Run.

Naja: Looks like a nice system.

In January I built a system using the Quad Core Q6600, which is kinda like the big brother to that processor and used a similar ASUS mother board. A GeForce 8800GT is a better card, but would cost around $200-$250 more. It would only make a difference if you were heavily into PC gaming.

What OS does it come with?


Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 6:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Bob, I "ran" it. Got Startup Control Panel like your diagram above. As is, shows nothing under Name and Path.

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
Click on all of the tabs. You have to have something in at least 1 tab, otherwise your anti-virus would not automatically start.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
OK. Do you want just name or path too?

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 7:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
The last part of the path is usually the most useful. In my example that would be avgcc.exe
The name wouldn't hurt.

Did you find many things or just a few?


Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Names . . . .
On the HKCU / RUN tab -
ctfmon.exe
DellSupportCenter
MSMSGS

STARTUP COMMON tab -
Microsoft Office
MozyHome Status

HKLM RUN tab
There's app. 20 of 'em. That's where the problem is? Guess I'd better list 'em for you?

Other tabs were empty.

Is there any way I can print the list for myself?

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
A list would be good.

You mentioned that they are supporting your computer remotely? There may be some programs running to allow them access?

Ultimately, you will need to decide what you want to launch when you computer starts. Most programs like to have things autostart that check for updates, auto connect you to instant messengers, add items to your system tray, etc...
Most of these programs are seldom needed and can be launched from your start menu when you want them.


Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Is there a way of printing the list so I can type it here? Otherwise I WILL write it down and type here. Take a little while. Can I print it somehow?

I would love to go back to my consultant and tell her "Problem solved. Thanks, but no thanks."

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 7:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
I don't think that tool can print.

Do you know how to post a jpg?

You can stretch the window so all the information is shown and do a screen capture and post it. That would be easiest.

I can post the steps if you want to try that.


Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
I have "messed with" photos some, but not screen capture. Like to try!!

I've got the window stretched enough to show everything -- but to full screen?

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
Just stretch it enough to show the full name and full path of the 20+ items. You can grab the line between Path and Name to control how wide the name field is.

Once you can see everything in the window, try the following:

1. From the start menu, bring up the Microsoft paint.
It can be found under Programs->Accessories->Paint
2. Click back to the Startup program. Hold down the Alt key and press Print Screen
3. Go back to paint and select Edit->Paste or just press Ctrl-V and the image of the Startup window should show in paint.
4. Select File->Save As... and make sure to change the Save As Type: to JPEG. Pick a name and location to save the file.
5. To post an image at TVCH use the tag \image{imagename} in your post. You will be prompted to upload the file after you post. Browse to where you saved the jpg and click OK.

That's it!


Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
OK. Where's screen print?

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 7:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
Is this a laptop or desktop?
Is it a Dell?

It's a button on your keyboard. On a regular keyboard it's usually toward the upper right, next to the F12 key. On a laptop I would guess upper right also, but every laptop is a little different.


Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Dell desktop. Oh, lordy. That key? The one to the right of the right alt key? Never used it before. Got a little further and stuck again.

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
From the first few items you posted, did you just post the names? The actual .exe from the path would really help to know what is starting. Here's my best guessfrom the names:

ctfmon.exe

Just leave this. It has something to do with Office and it just gets put back if you delete it. There are a complex steps to actually remove this, ubt it's not your problem. It is 1 of the 3things that autostart on my machine.

DellSupportCenter

Does this show up as sprtsvc.exe?
It will log information about your computer on each bootup and sends it to a server.
I would delete this.

MSMSGS

This autostarts Microsoft Messanger. Do you always want Messanger running? This can be deleted and you can just run it when you need it. Otherwise, leave it.

Microsoft Office

This is probably some startup assistant. I always delete this.

MozyHome Status

This is an on-line backup service. Did your support tech set this up for you? Did you know you have it? This might be backing up some of your files at boot time to the https://mozy.com/ website. You get 2GB for free and you can pay for more.


Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 8:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
The picture below shows the 2 keys you want. The lower left is the Alt and the upper right is the Print Screen.



Here's a closeup of the Print Screen button:




Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 8:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Bob, I've written so am currently typing in Word list of name and paths in the other tab (the app. 20 list).

In answer to above:

Don't know about the Dell / sprtsvc.exe

MSMSGS -- I do NOT use any messenger

Delete Microsoft Office?

Mozy Home - yes, recently installed for backup with my consultant. Paying by the year. Know about it. But suppose to back up just at 1:00 p.m. daily. Not at start-up too?

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Bob, I got the screen capture, but it was too big to upload?

Wasn't saved a jpeg? Thought it just automatically did that?

Tried again. Saved as JPEG. Still too big. It's 79. Max is 65. What now?

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 8:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
The Mozy Home probably just starts a monitor that will start your backup at 1:00 p.m. so you should probably leave that in place.

The deletes are only removing the autostartup from the registry. The actual programs are not getting deleted.

Do you have an icon in your system tray that looks like 2 people (far right side of the task bar at the bottom of the screen)? It would look like this:



That would be getting launched automatically with the msmsgs.exe

Deleting that with the tool would stop the autostarting, but not remove the program in case you later wanted to use Microsoft Messenger.


Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 8:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Bob, bet you didn't know what you were getting yourself into?