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Rissa
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03-20-2006

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Dolphin, the various reports are all over the place. Every media outlet is leapfrogging the others to try to get a new and updated guess online first. LOL Its Heath's family that is saying he did not commit suicide and that he had pneumonia. Its the authorities that are saying he took sleeping pills. At the time I read that he was in cardiac arrest, now they seem to be saying that he had already passed but the time paramedics arrived. I guess they will all just keep guessing until the coroner examines him tomorrow.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Thank you for your body of work Mr. Ledger. Rest in peace and peace to your loved ones.

Dolphinschild
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06-21-2006

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 7:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dolphinschild a private message Print Post    
Rissa, it is the report with the family's comments I was trying to find. I haven't ran across one yet. That is why I asked. Thank you for getting back to me.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 7:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
What I just read was that the pills were not scattered, and that he was found on the floor at the foot of the bed. It's so hard to tell in these cases especially so early.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
From TMZ.com

TMZ has been contacted by a rep from Heath's family. The cops told the family Heath's death was accidental and there is no evidence to support the buzz that he may have committed suicide.

They are particularly distraught over media reports that he may have taken his own life. The family says he was not that kind of person.

As we just reported, Heath was ill with pneumonia when he died.

Dolphinschild
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06-21-2006

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dolphinschild a private message Print Post    
Thanks Rissa!

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 9:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Just showed the story and some interviews on the local news. A media circus outside the building. His role as the Joker looked very dark; I sometimes wonder if these deep roles get inside an actors head and cause problems.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 9:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Ledger told The New York Times in a November interview that he "stressed out a little too much" during the Dylan film and had trouble sleeping while portraying the Joker, whom he called a "psychopathic, mass-murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathy."

"Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night," Ledger told the newspaper. "I couldn't stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going." He said he took two Ambien pills, which worked for only an hour, the paper said.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 9:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
too bad his doctor didnt give him something better than ambien for sleep, that stuff only put me to sleep for an hour or 2 at a time also.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 10:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
:-( I am in shock. This is so sad especially as he was so YOUNG... and had a little baby. Sigh. What a tragedy, and for his family to have to deal with misinformation about a suicide on top of it... simply horrible.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 11:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Mame, since the press was on it so quickly, I had hoped his family had been contacted before it hit the airwaves. It seems, that wasn't the case.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 11:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Insider and ET covered this and will tomorrow.. they showed him as the Joker, disturbing images, but then a subsequent set of pictures that was ore disturbing, posing with a noose around his neck, etc. And they showed clips from his last interview with them that didn't look too good. Very sad.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 11:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
My thing is. is how are you going to tell if it was an accidental overdose or an actual suicide. Your tox screen is going to show that you have stuff in your system. It may be termed an accidental overdose or even a suicide and we won't ever know the truth. Or maybe they think the amount will show the difference between an accident and not accident. IDK...just seems so unlikely to actually be 100% sure that it is one or the other...

Sometimes the people who commit suicide are the least likely ones...it's rare, but ya know...it happens

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 11:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Or, as his family said, he had pneumonia. It could have been a combination of the meds.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 11:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
I completely forgot that he was taking other meds...

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Beckie, I think they will be able to tell quite easily. Someone trying to sleep will have an amount of drug in his system equal to the prescribed dose or perhaps even double if he was desperate to get past some insomnia. Someone trying to commit suicide will have a level of drugs in his system much higher then the prescribed dose. I don't know anyone whose doctor said 'take one pill before bedtime' who would try to kill himself by taking TWO instead of one. They would take a LOT more and the blood results will show that.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 7:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I still feel a lil stunned. Not that I was a huge Heath fan but I'm still like wow. Really goes to show that tomorrow isn't promissed to anyone.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Dr. Drew was talking about the potential of a drug cocktail, that even a few different perscription drugs in small doses interact and cause cardiac arrest. They are having the autopsy today--we'll find out.

Michelle Williams and little Matilda are heading back to the States this morning from Sweden, where she was filming a movie.

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
I said the exact same thing yesterday Mocha. You never know how much time you'll have. It's all very sad.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 8:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
CNN says that

Actor Heath Ledger's autopsy was inconclusive and more tests are needed, the New York medical examiner's office says.

An autopsy Wednesday morning on actor Heath Ledger was inconclusive, and a cause-of-death determination will take about 10 days, a medical examiner's spokeswoman said.

Dolphinschild
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06-21-2006

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 9:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dolphinschild a private message Print Post    
We keep having small reminders that each day is a gift. Each day is a gift you have with yourself and the greater gift you have with others. We have lost so many people that constently remind us that life is to fragile to be taken for granted. Princess Di, Steve Irwin, now Heath Ledger for examples.

I pray you all receive great love, great health and many blessed years. Hugs...

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Well said, Mocha.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
:-)

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I think it's a real possibility that the cause of death will never be know for sure.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 7:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Actually they said on CNN that a call was placed to Mary-Kate Olsen by the housekeeper. Wish I would've been listening more closely. I'll see if I can find anything to back that up on the internet.