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Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 10:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Why do they even include any memory card at all if the one it comes with only holds 9 photos?!!!

The SD1000 came out in Feb 07.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Hey Juju, what accessories did you get? What did you pay? Is Dell a physical store or online???

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Juju, does it really only come with the wrist strap and cable? No battery or memory card? (Not that the puny mem card it typically comes with is of any use...)



Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Not according to B & H (which is reputable). According to them it includes:

• 32MB Secure Digital (SD) Memory Card
• NB-4L Lithium-Ion Battery (3.7v 760mAh)
• CB-2LV Battery Charger
• IFC-400PCU USB Interface Cable
• AVC-DC300 A/V Cable
• Wrist Strap (WS-DC2)
• Digital Camera Solution CD-ROM (ZoomBrowser EX, PhotoStitch, EOS Utility, Driver)
• User Guide
• 1-Year Canon U.S.A. Limited Warranty

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, that is what they typically include at all the other sites I checked. I was wondering if Dell included less (therefore the cheaper price...) ALso I cannot tell what "comes in the box" via Amazon.

Do you know if there is a standard set of what comes with this camera no matter who sells it? (Aside from someone selling it secondhand.)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 1:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
According to Canon USA

What's in the Box

PowerShot SD1000 Digital ELPH Body
Lithium Battery Pack NB-4L
Battery Charger CB-2LV
SD Memory Card SDC-32M
Wrist Strap WS-DC2
Digital Camera Solution CD-ROM
USB Interface Cable IFC-400PCU
AV Cable AVC-DC300

Juju might want to check with Dell to see if they are including all of that?

Dell is a decent company so I would be surprised if they weren't including it.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Juju-scooby-doo, where are you?

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
He has to agonize and compare and talk about it with other camera buffs for AGES before he can buy a camera.

That is TOTALLY ME. I knew BigDog wasn't just good looks. It took me about 6 or 7 months of research (while avoiding homework), to finally buy my Nikon D80. And then, I had become SO obsessive about researching it, at the point that I had a major paper due, that I finally just bought it, so I wouldn't obsessively research anymore. LOL



JB - I doubt that Dell would take stuff out of the box, and I don't think Canon would bother producing the same model but with LESS in the standard box, just to give Dell a discount. I just think Dell may be lazy about what they put on their website. Or, some box contents are so obvious, that they don't bother mentioning them. Like, obviously a battery comes with all cameras, so they don't mention it. Or the USB cable or whatever.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I suspect the same. You have to be very careful buying camera equipment over the Internet because a lot of shady little companies will deliberately cheat you by leaving things out or trying to make you pay extra for stuff that should have been included anyway. However, I can't see Dell doing that so it may just be a poorly updated website.

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 2:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
Dawg! Would I ever steer your wrong?

I got one of the Canon SD cameras from Amazon and it came with everything Jimmer listed. You might get less if it is listed as a refurbished item, but new should have everything.

Eeyoreslament, I was that way when I bought my Nikon D70. That's a much bigger investment, plus there are so many variations on kits and lenses that you really have to break each piece down to how much it costs to figure out the best deals.


Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 2:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Good point guys!!!

Which color do you all like better???



Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
actually answer that question here: ../9200/5060634.html"#E7EFEF">
Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Julieboo, before this camera I was using a film one, so I might not be the best person to ask!

But it is light, small in my purse, nice big screen, and simple to use. I've tried it on two days at a lake near me. The first day was bright blue skies and all the pictures, even up to 12x digital zoom were crisp and clear. On Sunday, same lake, the sky was grey and the pictures at zooms more than 3x (the limit of the optical zoom) were a bit fuzzy, probably because I wasn't still enough. I expect that's standard with most digitals though. The colours were natural. I haven't tried it indoors yet. I'd post a picture but they're 1MB each!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 7:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Just reading upthread. My dh (who bought it for me for Christmas) researches everything to ridiculous lengths before he buys something, made the decision on my one, and I trust his choices. And it came with everything on the list in Jimmer's post at 12.16pm, all neatly and perfectly packaged, so I doubt any reputable supplier would take any of it out. (By the way, the AV leads are mono, not stereo, in case that bothers you.)

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 9:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Julieboo, I am assuming it comes with the minimum standard stuff, which is a battery and charger. All the rest is not important, as you will be buying a 2 GB camera card immediately anyway. I think they only include the 32 Mb card with the camera so you can take a few trial pictures to decide if you like the camera.

It is dell.com. I read somewhere that the Dell deal is over, but go back to Bob's link above, and follow it, and it will probably be showing the best prices. When I tried to buy the camera at Dell yesterday, I got an error message, and I had to call them, and the clerk quoted me a higher price, and I said that must be wrong because I am buying it at $165, and then she said she found the $165 price.

Bob, I DO trust you. Do not do me wrong, or I will hunt you down and stalk you like a killer whale. And I will have Bigdog serve you rotten Copper River salmon on your next visit out west.

<swells up to twice normal size and squirts blood out eyeballs>



Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 10:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
It did come with only the 32Mb card.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 12:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the reasons the AV cable is mono, is that the video recording microphone is only a single hole in front, so essentially not stereo.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 1:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Another plus for using a viewfinder is that (at least on cameras I've read up on) it doesn't drain the battery as much as the display does.

Tess
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04-13-2001

Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 4:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tess a private message Print Post    
Jimmer and Bob, I'm in desperate need of help. Charlie said he would buy me any digital camera I want. I have never had a digital camera. My eyesight is not very good. The physical size of the camera does not matter to me as I would not be putting it in a back pocket or any other pocket for that matter. The color of the camera makes no difference to me. Fabulous photos are what I care about. I mostly take photos of kids being kids. On vacations, I do shoot some flora, fauna, etc.

I had read some time ago in this thread that a Canon SLR was a good camera. I've only had Minolta cameras in the past and know nothing about any other brands. I know nothing about digital cameras except that the higher the number of mega pixels, the better quality picture (I think). And I should have a separate thingy because I take lots and lots and really lots of photos. I also have never had a camera where I had to focus manually. There has always been at least a partial auto-focus capability.

Can you guys give me your opinions on what would be the best camera for me? You can either answer in this thread or in my folder, whichever works for you. Thanks so much.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 5:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'll be happy to help you with this, Tess. Since it's about digital photography, we can all jump in here and talk about it!

SLRs are excellent photography tools and the pros use them. The question is whether or not an SLR will be the best camera for your purposes though.

The downside of SLRs is that they are generally more complicated, bulkier, heavier and expensive. I don't want to discourage you from getting an SLR but they do have a bigger learning curve and they are generally harder to operate. However, If you are a real photography enthusiast they are great and your results will show it.

The point and shoots are smaller and generally easier to operate. Because of your vision concern, you would probably want to get one with a large screen so you will be able to see it better. Pretty much all cameras (P & S and SLRs) today have auto-focus so that isn't an issue.

Maybe someone could recommend a good point and shoot with a big screen for viewing? I'm always a fan of the big brand names like Canon and Nikon but I'm not as familiar with all the point and shoot models. I'll see if I can do some research though.

Or if you are interested in getting into photography with an SLR it would also be hard to go wrong with either Canon or Nikon. We could help you with that as well.

So I guess the first step for you is trying to narrow it down between getting an SLR or a P & S.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
That is a good first thing to decide! Then is price a consideration at all?

Then make a list of the features you like as well as a list of features you don't care about. (There are a ton of features). Some features are:
zoom/how much do you want
face detectors (crazy how this actually works!!!)
that histogram thing
image stabilization
viewfinder (I personally think it is essential)
on-camera red-eye reduction
movie recording ability
size of LCD screen

There are a ton more, anyone want to help add to this list??

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 5:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Another starting point is go to the reviews at dpreview.com and see what they rate some of the cameras... THen see what appeals to you...

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Here is what a site rated the top SLR's (keep in mind these are going to be a lot more pricey than a P&S--but then they can do so much more...)



Tess
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04-13-2001

Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 5:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tess a private message Print Post    
Well, about the bigger learning curve, I have some helps there. I'm very smart but have some short term memory problems. But, I have backups. Charlie can do anything that is the least bit mechanical. He's a physicist who programs super computers. He'll go with me when I choose a camera and pay attention while the camera guy is teaching me how to use the camera. The only problem with Charlie is that he takes lousy pictures.

But, my brother-in-law has this big ole fancy camera with huge lenses etc, and he takes photos worthy of National Geographic or better. The only drawback there is that he's in Chicago with my sister though we will be down there staying with them sometime over the summer.

You are correct, I will need a larger screen. That is the problem I have with Charlie's digital camera. It's tiny. Brother-in-law gave it to us a several years ago but I just can't see my subject. Charlie can see just fine but photography just isn't his talent.

Cost really isn't so much of an issue. I dont' want to go insane of course, but I'm not looking for a bargain either.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 5:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
So do you want SLR or point and shoot. If not sure, the canonG9 is wonderful middleground. (Is middleground a word???)