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Wargod
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07-16-2001
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 3:23 am
So, interesting situation. Last night, Dakota and I took dinner to my aunts and when we came back she pointed into the corner of the porch and said she thought there was a frog. We've always got frogs out there, I didn't think too much about it. Then when we ordered pizza and the delivery guy came, Harvey stood at the screen door like normal, except instead of staring at the pizza guy, he was staring into the corner. Still didn't think too much about it. This morning, I went out to get the mail and when I opened the door, this little doll was sitting on my porch:
She was shaking and shivering and I'm pretty sure she had been outside all night long. She was also pretty scared, wouldn't let us anywhere near her. Darren reached out a hand to see if she was wearing a collar and tag and she snapped at him. We put some food and water out there and a blanket and then went in and watched from the window as she ate and drank and then curled up and took a nap with the blanket. At that point, I thought she was a stray. Her fur was matted and she wasn't friendly as well as no collar. Eventually though, she did come to me and was quite cuddley. I brought her in the house and put her in a box with the blanket and water and food and she was quite content. We put her in our bedroom, not sure how her and Harvey would react to each other. I kept saying she looked like a Jack (we weren't sure of her sex then) to me but couldn't figure out why. When I went to check on her, she had gotten out of the box so Darren was fixing it to make it taller and this puppy went flying into Dakota's lap. She just cuddled and snuggled and licked. Has been that friendly with everyone once she calmed down. We figured out that she's a she, she's not as old as I thought (not a puppy puppy, but not very old either,) and that the matting doesn't look to be from no real care and love but from being away from home. She seems to be fairly well taken care of and judging from her friendliness and lovey attitude we think she probably does have a family. We took her out to my sisters with us, still not sure how her and Harvey would react to each other and as soon as sis saw her said, "OMG! It's JD!" JD (Jack Daniel) was the lhaso apso I had as a teen and as soon as she said it I realized she was right. She looks just like JD did when he was 1-2 years old, right down to the underbite. I'm already trying not to get attached to this dog, lol. She's such a sweetie and the kids absolutely adore her. Even Harvey seems to like her, though he seems to think if we're holding her we should also be holding him and he's a great deal bigger, lol. We've nicknamed her Little JD (Jeralddean) cuz it sounds terrible to keep calling her dog! We've already talked to the kids and told them that it seems like she has a family that loves her and we need to see if we can find them. They'd want someone to find us if Harvey got lost. So tomorrow we'll print out some flyers and hang them around the neighborhood and the grocery store down the street and see if she can get home. If not, I'm all for keeping her...though if she does have a home I want her to go home more. Sis and I sat there tonight picking stickers and goatheads out of her fur. Tomorrow she needs to be brushed out good and then get a bath and checked to make sure she doesn't have goatheads that have gotten into her paws or ears. I'm not too sure how long we should look for her family? Or when we should get her to the vet to get her checked out. If we do keep this dog, she's gonna have to be fixed at some point (sooner rather than later) though if we're waiting to find her family, how long do you wait to make a decision like that? I mean, we're big on fixing dogs but what if her family wants to breed her? Right now she's contentedly sleeping in her box (she isn't housebroken from what we can tell, which again leads me to think she's younger than I originally thought.) She's eaten, drank, gone potty (we did take her outside and she did her business after staring at us like we were nuts,) and has curled up in her blanket. She's too cute!
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Biscottiii
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05-29-2004
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 5:38 am
I think the first thing I would do, before going to the trouble of hanging posters, is to take her to the vet @ their reception counter. Mine has a scanner to wave over her to see if there's a chip implanted. Surely they must all have a scanner, just to see if their own chip implants are working. What a sweetie! But she may have escaped somehow and has someone frantically looking for her. I found a dog once, a Basingy (sp?) whose owners had been looking for months, stolen from their yard. No collar, but that's easily lost getting tangled in brush. Poor little girl! Must have been so cold and so scared! Thank heavens you've been able to warm her up and cuddle!!!!
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Biscottiii
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05-29-2004
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 6:14 am
Still gives me shivers, remembering that couple getting their Basingy (sp?) back. They lived a LONG way away. Sent their Mother-in-Law, who lived closer, to come running with a jar of milk (he loved milk). Yep, it was HIM! Then the couple got there about 1/2 hr later. What a joyful reunion! Never saw a dog or his people so happy. ETA: They figured that his collar was missing because he was stolen from his kennel. When the thieves realized he had been fixed, they just dumped him off in a different part of town. I had been feeding him leftovers, just thinking he was some starving stray, for a week. He was sweet (strangely wanting to play with the neighborhood CATS) and I sure wasn't going to 'rat him out' to animal control. Didn't figure out that he was a Basingy until I finally realized he didn't bark just kind of yodeled. Had a coworker's roommate (a breeder) come to check and that's what he was. After knowing his breed, called the animal shelter and it was easy to find out who was missing their beloved furbaby. Long time ago, but it was so heartwarming.
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Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 7:16 am
Also call animal control and see if anybody is looking for a dog of that description.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 8:42 am
Ah, these stories break my heart thinking of the frantic owners. I know you'll do everything to reunite them. Keep us posted, WG.
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 9:12 am
Ahhh Wargod ... what a situation! Thank goodness she found you, for however long she is going to stay!! When I got my Maggie it was almost the same. She showed up in a friends front yard. She had a collar on with a vets # in San Francisco .. that's 50 miles from where I live. We called it and they gave us information about her ... breed & age and said he'd call the owners. No one ever called back. Then we took her to the vet and she wasn't chipped. That was it, we chipped her ourselves, got her cleaned up and she was ours. And we're all very happy that it turned out this way! 
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 12:10 pm
aahhh War that pup is sooo cute!!! I agree to ck if it has a chip...the local shelter has a scanner also....
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 1:06 pm
Wow...I'm gone for a couple of days and here is all these beautiful dog pictures! Thank you all for sharing them..my only problem is that I want to love on each and every one of them! War I cannot believe you haven't nicknamed that puppy Pizza. What a tiny doll. I hope you get to keep her...she will always see your family as her rescuers. We took all 4 pugs in the motorhome and stayed at our DD's on Lake Tapps over the holidays. I am still exhausted. Try sleeping in a RV queen sized bed with 4 pugs. Their home is on the lake so the boys were fascinated by the water and kept trying to get down to it. We would yell TREATS and they would turn in unison and come to us. I think they did pretty well for their very first excursion. We did get to see Spenser while we were there. He was excited to see his brothers and they raced around the yard but he didn't try to come with us when we left. Guess he likes being Numero Uno! Here is a picture of Emmett in his favorite spot, the back of the loveseat where he can watch everything. Hasn't he gotten big?

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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 2:36 pm
I was hoping you had a new pix or two for us. Poor baby looks so worried.
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Debra
Member
11-20-2003
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 2:38 pm
How bitter sweet that he didn't follow you all. Emmett looks great.
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 5:27 pm
Cracker Jacky and Kit Christmas day
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 5:54 pm
It's easy to see who is king of the mountain in your house.
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 6:18 pm
My gosh Jacky has grown so fast. And Kit looks so good, happy and good color...Jacky is keeping him entertained! OG, that is Emmett's expression all the time, if he is worried it's because he just hasn't thought of some new trouble! Thank you Debra. I was a little hurt that Spenser has adjusted to his new home so fast...but that also means he is spoiled rotten in his new home.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 7:14 pm
I'd say a pair of Kings there.. Kit and Jacky!! Supergranny, that is great that you could visit Spenser and see for yourself that he's really happy. I remember placing an older adult lab. She wasn't going to have any more litters and was a bit of an odd one out at our house. A mother and daughter had a BIG black male we'd bred.. and they asked how much we'd want for Buttercup, to go as a companion for Tide.. well I said, just pay to have her spayed and love her and that they did. And the two dogs were so good for each other! She had never loved swimming even though she was an excellent swimmer, but she couldn't STAND to see him retrieve out of water so she'd jump in with him They came back to visit us in the canyon once and Butter did greet her friends (and they'd been friends for a few years) but when her new family moved toward the gate, she was glued to their legs.. she made it clear where her bread was no buttered. I felt SO much better about placing her after that War, I know you'll look for the owners. In most papers FOUND ads are free. But definitely check for a microchip too. She is just adorable and I really hope she's soon yours. ETA.. maybe some family got her for Christmas and if someone had fireworks going last night maybe she got scared and ran?
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 9:56 pm
Ah look at all the cuties in here! Sea, I believe she was on my porch at least overnight Sunday night, just with Dakota seeing something and the way Harvey reacted. He never twitches even over frogs, something bigger was out there that night. Thank you guys for your suggestions! Sad as it is, neither one crossed my mind. I called animal control today and was told they don't do lost and found over the phone. The lady told me I could bring her in tomorrow (closed today for the holiday) and they'd try to find her owner. Quite frankly that idea left me cold, I think we'll do more to find her home and if no one claims her we won't put her to sleep! I can go out tomorrow though and check their lost board and leave a flyer on the found board so I'll do that sometimes tomorrow. I also called my vet, but they were closed today as well so we'll go to see if she has a chip tomorrow when Darren gets off work. Then we'll hang flyers up. Darren also suggested, then sis called with the same, leaving the picture off the flyers if we have to do them. Darren's worry is that she's so danged cute someone might try to claim her that doesn't really own her and we really do want her to go back to her own family and her own home. She's such a well behaved pup she's got to have family. We have had her out of the box most of the day and she's pretty much just played with the kids and found her a spot under the desk to lay down. She's playful with Harvey even if he isn't quite sure what the heck to do with her. She is a chewer though. Caught her with a shoe earlier and then she ran off with Caleb's sock. The kids managed to find her a couple toys and she's been happy with those. She has been going potty on the floor (luckily the tiled den floor!) but after watching Harvey all day, who goes and sits by the back door til someone lets him out, tonight I looked in and she was sitting in the same exact spot. Opened the door and she ran out and did her business then came back in. We of course told her what a good puppy she was and gave her lots of love. We've been talking about getting a new puppy for awhile, but haven't really been rushing that. And while I just adore this little doll and wouldn't mind keeping her if no one claims her, if she can go home I want her to. It's got to be just as traumatic for her being lost as it is for her family.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 2:11 am
Whew, War: "Darren also suggested, then sis called with the same, leaving the picture off the flyers if we have to do them. Darren's worry is that she's so danged cute someone might try to claim her" That was my first reaction too. If someone responds, THEY need to be providing the description of the pup they lost. ITA with your discomfort of hauling her down to the animal control, that's why I suggested taking to the vet to wave the wand first. Maybe I'm paranoid, but so many animals go to the animal control intake and not knowing what bugs could be picked up from the counter...I know my vet reception people are always wiping down their counters whenever a pet gets off it. Who knows if she's had her Parvo shot yet? But, if you're looking through the Lost Ads, might I suggest you also look at Shizus Breed, as well? Little girl sure looks like my Sister's Shizus, including the underbite. (but, don't worry, Sis's NOT missing a furbaby)
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Biscottiii
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05-29-2004
| Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 2:19 am
PS - don't get me wrong. I'm sure the animal shelter wipes their counters too. Partially, too, there's a more closer bond with my vet.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 2:44 am
Ack Bisc, I didn't think about that! My main thought about taking her to animal control is I know she'll get better care and love here waiting for her family than she would there (house and big yard to run in, kids and Harvey to play with) and that if her family isn't found, we'd be happy to keep her while they'd put her down if no one came. We've been checking the lost and found ads for two days and nothing there yet. My feeling is that she hasn't wandered too far from home, I think she was probably too cold and scared to go that far. But, I've also seen and read about dogs who end up far, far away too. I'm really trying not to get too attached to her but it's so hard, lol. A while ago she was sound asleep on the couch and rolled over onto her back with all four paws flopping in the air and all I could think was how freaking cute she was and...oh no! It's funny, Darren said that about leaving off her picture and I was typing up a quick flyer. I printed it out and was reading it over and realized I left her sex off. I didn't do it intentionally, didn't see it til I had the paper in my hand, but realized that I'm not going to change that either. If someone calls they can describe her, tell me what kinda dog she is, and that she's a she. So tomorrow, me and the kids will go to animal control, then Darren will take her to the vet. If we have no luck, the flyers will go up around the neighborhood and the shopping center down the street. The kids knocked on doors yesterday and checked the "Lost Dog" flyer hanging up down the street (someone's missing a lab .) If this pup goes home, we're going to seriously resume the puppy talks. This is worse than the "oh look how cute and cuddly that baby is!" itch.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 3:01 am
Oh, I forgot what I was going to ask after reading your post! I don't think she's a very young puppy, certainly old enough to have had her shots, but if we end up keeping her how do we know for sure? Would we just have to give her another round just in case (assuming she's had the first round?) We have been careful looking for signs of illness, but so far she's rather playful, has a healthy appetite, drinks well, and goes potty good (no diarrhea, runniness, constipation, vomiting, poop doesn't look funny...and yes we are checking closely, lol, she is around Harv after all!) She doesn't even nip or scratch at herself so she seems pretty healthy, though we aren't vets which is why we want her checked out pretty soon just to be safe! Other than being lost, matted, and dirty from being out and the stickers and goatheads we picked out of her, she looks to be really well taken care of. Her teeth are clean and healthy looking, her nails aren't long, and from what we could tell she doesn't even have any scratches or anythign from being out under all the fur. She did have a little eye gunk that we ended up just cutting off but that was about it. Honestly, everything I see tells me this dog doesn't belong on the street and the only reason she's there is because she ran off and didn't stop. Breaks my heart. When Harvey was a puppy, he loved to shoot out the front door and take off running if we weren't careful, luckily he never went too far and if we couldn't catch him he always came back home (usually with us trailing along behind him trying to catch him, lol!) Thank goodness he grew out of that (actually I think it was more the laziness, too much energy to run) but I couldn't imagine how upset and hurt and frantic we'd have been if he hadn't come home.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 3:08 am
Oh yes War! Blessings on Your House! Why should she sit in some scary kennel when she can have a perfectly warm spot at YOUR house? Not like she's going to eat you out of house and home! If her family is to be found, you can do it just fine the way you're doing. Otherwise, you know that you will have a lovely puppy and you had tried your best to reunite her, to no avail. Male vs. Female is a BIG part of her descriptive info. Brilliant mishap, IMO. I know that my Sis has sold some of her pups (discovered Papa's AKC papers weren't in order) for $300 even without papers (thankfully Papa is now fixed!). Such a cutie as Little JD would attract many potential 'customers'. If she could end up with "strangers", better to be loved by your OWN household that she's already beginning to bond with.
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Biscottiii
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05-29-2004
| Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 3:29 am
In my Sis's case, with that litter of puppies, she had tree trimmer guys working her backyard, left the back gate open. Pups had already received the first round of puppy shots. That day, one puppy was missing. Not saying the tree trimmer guys stole, could have been someone walking through the alley. But that puppy was GONE, in spite of hours of searching and posters nailed around the neighborhood. If someone were to steal a puppy, there's NO guarantee they would bother with responsibilities like getting shots. Might even get impatient if puppy can't get housebroken. One of Sis's puppies, given to my cousin's daughter, is still having 'accidents' in the house and problems with housebreaking over a year later. But we feel hopeful, since she doesn't do it when their own Grandma is puppysitting. Your Vet would give the best advice after scanning for the chip. My Vets LOVE to direct the traffic (& they've always been right on, too) giving free advice as to how next to proceed. Presumably Harvey has had his shots so HE should be already protected. Perhaps Little JD is covered (that's the $64k question) but it's not like you're sitting around waiting awhile before you're taking action.
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Biscottiii
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05-29-2004
| Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 3:34 am
Good Vets don't charge for a lot of that advice & stuff. They KNOW they've already got a client (Harvey) and they know they could also end up with another well loved ADDL client. Keeping pets healthy is their calling.
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Dahli
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11-27-2000
| Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 10:34 am
Thanks guys... that was a great story about Nula, Seamonkey, I'd never heard that before, she's a sweetie. Also I'm going to check out the soft cast idea Sportsfan - I"ve not heard of that one before either. Our guy ruptured the back right cruciate ligament and both vets with whom I spoke would not even consider amputation for this injury Pamy... I have to say that did surprise me. So we are now trying to decide between the two types of surgery that are available here. Time is also an issue and we're leaning toward the one that is available next Tuesday. He's having a hard time with this and keeping us up - I"m worried all the time that he's hurting himself more. I'll keep you posted.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 12:29 pm
Dahli, would it help if you kept him crated? When bil ran over their dog (total accident, she ran under the truck) and she was healing from her injuries the only way to keep her immobile and from hurting herself more was to keep her in the crate where she couldn't go anywhere. They would take her out and carry her outside, sit her down and let her go potty, then carry her back in. Poor pup, I hope he's feeling better quickly! Yup, Harvey has all his shots. Sis and bil's Athena had parvo as a puppy and they spent a small fortune to save her. Then spent years with vets telling them she most likely wouldn't live past this age, no wait that age, no wait. LOL, she lived 17 years! Though she had a whole bucketfull of health problems in her later life that could be linked back to the bout of parvo as a puppy. So if vet thinks she should have shots, then she'll have them. Would rather take that precaution than having to deal with something serious any day. I'm heading out to animal control now to check the lost and found board. I know I'm doing the right thing, but I'm really dreading this trip!
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 2:10 pm
Went to animal control, man that place is heart breaking. We had to wait about 15 minutes til they opened and for a minute or two I couldn't believe my luck. This car pulled up next to us and they had a full grown dog, white, that looked just like the puppy. Could this be her owners? Turns out they weren't, they were out to adopted another dog. So I checked the lost and found, tons of lost dogs though none matching the puppy's description. Left my found flyer. Next up is the vet later on when Darren gets off work.
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