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Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, December 17, 2007 - 9:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Sharinia, it was a church almost on campus on the east side of the quad. For all I know, the coffeehouse could still be there and still have the same name. I would probably recognize the name.

Of course when little Danny Fogelberg and I were in college it was very different times - sex, drugs, and rock and roll, Vietnam war, don't trust anybody over 30, Beatles, hippies, Yippies, LSD, Summer of Love.

My high school class has a Google Groups discussion group. Naturally, there was talk there today of Dan Fogelberg. One of the girls said she always thought of him as little Danny Fogelberg, my exact words, but I had not posted them there yet, nor was I high school friends with this woman. Interesting.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, December 17, 2007 - 9:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Okay, found the coffehouse. It was The Red Herring.

http://www.channingmurray.org/

Looks like it is still in existence.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Monday, December 17, 2007 - 9:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
cool :-) i was googling and wasn't able to find it

ya never know - my fave restaurant in U-C was Top of the Inn, I thought it was a fixture but it is long gone


Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 9:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Yep, The Red Herring still exists: http://www.channingmurray.org/redherringcoffeehouse.html

Never heard of Top of the Inn.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 5:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Loved Carly Simon, early Fleetwood Mac back then!

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 5:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Gosh, that is sooo sad. Far too young, too. I thought we had virtually beaten this kind of cancer--if caught in time. Juju, wonderful story!

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 6:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
HP, I bet he never had a prostrate exam. That's why so many men die from it.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

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I hate this news. "Longer" is one of my favorite songs ever, and brings back so many sweet memories from my teenage years. Juju, you really got to experience greatness up close. Fogelberg had the sweetest voice I ever heard.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 7:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
Juju, Top of the Inn was a wonderful restaurant at the top of the University Inn, it gave you a great view of the cities. My hubby and I used to drive down from Chicago just to go back and reminisce. One year it was gone (well, a restaurant was there, but it had changed). Bummer when that happens.

I can't think of a more beautiful love song than "Longer"


Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Men in their early 50's still think they are semi-immortal and still feel 21, so it doesn't occur to them to check for prostate cancer. I would also bet he never had a prostate exam.

Same thing happened to two of my friends, both of whom are still living and older than Dan was. But both got prostate cancer in their early 50's. They retired from federal law enforcement at 50, after getting annual guvmint physical exams for years. They neglected to get the annual exams after they retired and whammo, Big C got them.

Sharinia, I don't think University Inn had been built yet before we left town in 1975. The Red Lion (maybe on that same intersection?), early music venue for REO Speedwagon, was still going strong when we left town.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 8:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
Juju, I was there '90-93 (hubby went to Purdue, but lived with me on weekends )

REO Speedwagon was another band I loved. I was aware they had roots there. I can remember listening to them on my walkman while wandering the neighborhoods of Urbana. They actually headlined my community's 4th of July festival last year.


Karen
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09-07-2004

Monday, December 24, 2007 - 6:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
:-( Canadian jazz great Oscar Peterson dies :-(

Jazz fans and Canadians both home and abroad are mourning the death of Oscar Peterson, the virtuoso known globally as one of the most talented musicians ever to play jazz piano.

Peterson died Sunday night at his home in Mississauga, Ont., from kidney failure. He was 82.

"The world has lost the world's greatest jazz player," Hazel McCallion, mayor of Mississauga and Peterson's friend, told CBC News on Monday afternoon.

Renowned for his speed and virtuosity as a pianist, Peterson — who was born in Montreal and later made Toronto his home — made hundreds of recordings in his career, even after a stroke in 1993 disabled his left hand.

"What he was able to achieve [after his stroke], playing with half of what most other pianists had, he was still light years ahead of every one else," said jazz broadcaster Ross Porter.

Liberal politician and former Ontario premier Bob Rae said he "worshipped" Peterson as a musician and a fan, and hailed the pianist for his achievements.

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Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, December 24, 2007 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    


OSCAR PETERSON

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Monday, December 24, 2007 - 8:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Very sad. He was one of the greats. He leaves behind some wonderful music.

Jhonise
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07-10-2003

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Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Monday, December 24, 2007 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
:-( About 20 years ago I was quite good friends with his nephew John but we lost touch. I've been thinking about both of them a lot today...

Here's a Youtube video of Oscar Peterson on piano (and Woody Allen on horns) called Christmas in New York:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swSEdbga42k

Here is Oscar Peterson playing a piano solo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxB-LbcZITU&NR=1

He was born in my hometown of Montreal. In Toronto we crossed paths many times at various media functions. A tremendous talent. A tremendous loss.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, December 24, 2007 - 11:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Aw, I saw that earlier today :-(

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I know this is being discussed in N&V, but she merits mention here, as well :-(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2228796.stm
Obituary: Benazir Bhutto

Ms Bhutto had a volatile political career


BBC interviews Bhutto
Benazir Bhutto followed her father into politics, and both of them died because of it - he was executed in 1979, she fell victim to an apparent suicide bomb attack.
Her two brothers also suffered violent deaths.

Like the Nehru-Gandhi family in India, the Bhuttos of Pakistan are one of the world's most famous political dynasties. Benazir's father, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, was prime minister of Pakistan in the early 1970s.

His government was one of the few in the 30 years following independence that was not run by the army.

Born in 1953 in the province of Sindh and educated at Harvard and Oxford, Ms Bhutto gained credibility from her father's high profile, even though she was a reluctant convert to politics.

She was twice prime minister of Pakistan, from 1988 to 1990, and from 1993 to 1996.

Stubbornness

On both occasions she was dismissed from office by the president for alleged corruption.

The dismissals typified her volatile political career, which was characterised by numerous peaks and troughs. At the height of her popularity - shortly after her first election - she was one of the most high-profile women leaders in the world.

Young and glamorous, she successfully portrayed herself as a refreshing contrast to the overwhelmingly male-dominated political establishment.

But after her second fall from power, her name came to be seen by some as synonymous with corruption and bad governance.


Asif Zardari has faced numerous corruption charges

The determination and stubbornness for which Ms Bhutto was renowned was first seen after her father was imprisoned and charged with murder by Gen Zia ul-Haq in 1977, following a military coup. Two years later he was executed.

Ms Bhutto was imprisoned just before her father's death and spent most of her five-year jail term in solitary confinement. She described the conditions as extremely hard.

During stints out of prison for medical treatment, Ms Bhutto set up a Pakistan People's Party office in London, and began a campaign against General Zia.

She returned to Pakistan in 1986, attracting huge crowds to political rallies.

After Gen Zia died in an explosion on board his aircraft in 1988, she became one of the first democratically elected female prime ministers in an Islamic country.

Corruption charges

During both her stints in power, the role of Ms Bhutto's husband, Asif Zardari, proved highly controversial.

He played a prominent role in both her administrations, and has been accused by various Pakistani governments of stealing millions of dollars from state coffers - charges he denies, as did Ms Bhutto herself.

Many commentators argued that the downfall of Ms Bhutto's government was accelerated by the alleged greed of her husband.

None of about 18 corruption and criminal cases against Mr Zardari has been proved in court after 10 years. But he served at least eight years in jail.

He was freed on bail in 2004, amid accusations that the charges against him were weak and going nowhere.

Ms Bhutto also steadfastly denied all the corruption charges against her, which she said were politically motivated.

She faced corruption charges in at least five cases, all without a conviction, until amnestied in October 2007.


President Pervez Musharraf granted Ms Bhutto and others an amnesty

She was convicted in 1999 for failing to appear in court, but the Supreme Court later overturned that judgement.

Soon after the conviction, audiotapes of conversations between the judge and some top aides of then Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif were discovered that showed that the judge had been under pressure to convict.


Ms Bhutto left Pakistan in 1999 to live abroad, but questions about her and her husband's wealth continued to dog her.

She appealed against a conviction in the Swiss courts for money-laundering.

During her years outside Pakistan, Ms Bhutto lived with her three children in Dubai, where she was joined by her husband after he was freed in 2004.

She was a regular visitor to Western capitals, delivering lectures at universities and think-tanks and meeting government officials.



Army mistrust

Ms Bhutto returned to Pakistan on 18 October 2007 after President Musharraf signed into law an ordinance granting her and others an amnesty from corruption charges.

Observers said the military regime saw her as a natural ally in its efforts to isolate religious forces and their surrogate militants.

She declined a government offer to let her party head the national government after the 2002 elections, in which the party received the largest number of votes.

In the months before her death, she had emerged again as a strong contender for power.

Some in Pakistan believe her secret talks with the military regime amounted to betrayal of democratic forces as these talks shored up President Musharraf's grip on the country.

Others said such talks indicated that the military might at long last be getting over its decades-old mistrust of Ms Bhutto and her party, and interpreted it as a good omen for democracy.

Western powers saw in her a popular leader with liberal leanings who could bring much needed legitimacy to Mr Musharraf's role in the "war against terror".

Unhappy family

Benazir Bhutto was the last remaining bearer of her late father's political legacy.

Her brother, Murtaza - who was once expected to play the role of party leader - fled to the then-communist Afghanistan after his father's fall.

From there, and various Middle Eastern capitals, he mounted a campaign against Pakistan's military government with a militant group called al-Zulfikar.

He won elections from exile in 1993 and became a provincial legislator, returning home soon afterwards, only to be shot dead under mysterious circumstances in 1996.

Benazir's other brother, Shahnawaz - also politically active but in less violent ways than Murtaza - was found dead in his French Riviera apartment in 1985.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
(I found it)

Johnny Grant, Honorary Mayor of Hollywood has passed on at the age of 84. He was the fellow that put together the Hollywood Christmas Parade and was always there when celebrities got their stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
That is a sad loss.. he had done so much for Hollywood and also was a huge and long time supporter of USO tours as well..

http://tinyurl.com/2jntpy


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Johnny Grant made his show business debut on the radio in 1939, as a local newscaster for his hometown radio station, WGBR in Goldsboro, North Carolina. He went on to a career as a radio and television announcer and personality in the late 40s and was host of the TV game show “Stop the Clock” in New York in 1946. From 1951 to 1959, he created and hosted Los Angeles radio station KMPC’s “Freeway Club.”

In 1952, he, along with Bing Crosby, Bob Hope, and Frank Sinatra, co-hosted the first national telethon ever produced, a fund-raiser to help send America’s Olympic athletes to Helsinki. In the mid-sixties, he was accredited as KMPC’s White House correspondent. From 1969 to 1971, he hosted KTLA-TV’s “Johnny Grant at Universal Studios.”

During the Second World War, while serving in the Army Air Corps, he hosted “Strictly GI,” a radio program for the military stationed on the East Coast. Mr. Grant was a retired Major General in the California State Military Reserve. Over the years, he had participated in 60 USO tours for the Armed Services to such locales as Korea, Viet Nam, the Balkans, Beirut and Pakistan. In 1991, he created and produced Hollywood’s “Welcome Home Desert Storm” Parade, one of the largest single-day events in the history of Los Angeles.

As an actor Mr. Grant appeared in such films as “The Babe Ruth Story, “The Oscar,” “White Christmas” with Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye, and with Bob Hope in “Beau James.” Mr. Grant had the distinction of being one of only a few individuals to have both a Walk of Fame star and his hand and footprints in front of Grauman’s Chinese Theatre.




Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, January 11, 2008 - 1:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
As a fan of figure skating, this is really sad:

bowman

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/7663172?MSNHPHMA

Christopher Bowman Dead at 40, possible overdose..


quote:

Bowman, a former child actor, was one of figure skating's bigger personalities in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Immensely talented, with a gift for performance that few others could match, he won the U.S. men's figure skating titles in 1989 and 1992, and was runner-up in 1987 and 1991.

He also won a silver medal at the 1989 world championships, and a bronze the next year. He skated in the 1988 and 1992 Winter Olympics, finishing seventh in 1988 and fourth in 1992.


"If I had to pick the three most talented skaters of all time, I would pick Christopher as one," Brian Boitano, the 1988 Olympic champion, told the Chicago Tribune. "He had natural charisma, natural athleticism, he could turn on a crowd in a matter of seconds and he always seemed so relaxed about it."

But as talented as he was on the ice, Bowman could be just as big a challenge off it. He bounced from coach to coach long before it became fashionable - he once won Skate America when he was in-between coaches - and freely admitted that practice was something that just didn't interest him much.

"Each and every competition that I train for, prepare for, is always a personal challenge for me because, as we all know, the training and discipline between each event is very difficult for me," Bowman said in 1992.

He battled drug problems, and underwent treatment at least twice — once before the 1988 Olympics and then again after the Albertville Games in 1992.

He also had run-ins with the law.




Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Friday, January 11, 2008 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cablejockey a private message Print Post    
I remember him and he was good. I didnt realize he had so many personal problems. Since he's been out of the skating spotlight, I hadnt thought about him in years. Very sad news.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, January 11, 2008 - 6:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
He was SO much fun to watch. R.I.P. Christopher.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Friday, January 11, 2008 - 7:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I found an up-to-date pix of him that I am not going to post. It is just too sad to look at knowing what he once was. A pox on drugs!

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, January 11, 2008 - 8:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I saw that too, OG. He was such a cutie when he was at the top of his game, wasn't he? Agreed, a pox on drugs!