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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, January 25, 2008 - 1:46 pm
How do you like the redeye correction? I know it is no photoshop (not nearly as flawless), but for the ease, I think it works rather well...There was one instance where I could not get it to work on just one eye, but it was a case where the eye was kind of angled and it was much more pink/orange than red...All the other times it was nice. Especially for a 4x6 print... Anything you don't like? I am still getting used to it. It still feels too small to me and I have to remember to not hold my left finger over the flash! (Luckily the warmth of it helps me remember).
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, January 25, 2008 - 1:52 pm
I like it a lot. The 3:2 guide is a great idea. I haven't tried the red eye correction yet. Things I don't like? Well I miss being able to set absolutely everything and I have to keep reminding myself that it is not an SLR. However, I bought it for a specific purpose and I was very careful not to buy something that would duplicate what I already have. I think it is an excellent little camera!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, January 25, 2008 - 6:08 pm
So, after reading the following concerning the Auto ISO shift, is it safe to leave it ON cuz it will only change the ISO for you if you push the flashing button?? If that is true, then why even give an option? Auto ISO shift is a pretty handy feature. If you halfway press the shutter release button and get the flashing red "shake warning" that you can see in the right face detection sample, you can press the blinking Print/Share button, and the camera will choose an ISO that will result in a sharp (but noisier) photo.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, January 25, 2008 - 6:18 pm
I think so Julie. I'm going to have to do some experimenting myself. I know between the two of us we'll know this camera inside out!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, January 25, 2008 - 7:12 pm
cool! There's plenty of websites that have info on the features. Here's one that is a bit less tech-y (though that may be better for me than for you) Canon-PowerShot-SD850IS-Digital-Camera-Review I'm sure you know some of the more tech-y ones like DPreviews (though they did not review the 850) and CNET and DCresource. <25>
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, January 25, 2008 - 7:34 pm
Looks like Canon has updated the SD1000: Canon Announces Colorful SD1100 IS by DigitalCameraInfo.com Editorial Staff Jan. 23, 2008 - One of four point-and-shoots announced by Canon today, the PowerShot SD1100 IS will be offered in five fancifully-named colors, such as Bohemian Brown and Swing Silver, to appeal to the style-conscious consumer. Its key features include Canon's latest face detection technology, a DIGIC III image processor, and an enhanced Playback mode. It will retail for $249.99 when it is available in March. The new Elph model features Canon's latest face detection technology, called Genuine Face Detection, which provides increased flexibility for portrait photography. Face detection automatically finds, exposes for, and focuses on faces. The improved white balance only reads the subjects face to determine the appropriate setting, rather than the whole scene, providing overall better skin tone reproduction. Here's the link to the full article, in case anyone is innerested: http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/Canon-Announces-Colorful-SD1100-IS-17322.htm And my favorite part: the color options are Bohemian Brown, Pink Melody, Rhythm and Blue, Golden Tone, and Swing Silver.
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Landileigh
Member
07-29-2002
| Friday, January 25, 2008 - 9:11 pm
i love the face detection. it really has made a difference in my pics!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 1:39 pm
See how quickly they already come out with a new one!?!?! Jimmer, I didn't know you got the 850 too! That's hilarious!!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 1:45 pm
Pretty funny huh??? I'm just happy to see the camera companies finally focusing on some features beyond increasing megapixels. That face detection stuff is really cool and it is effective. So is the IS. It's about time!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, February 01, 2008 - 9:37 am
GE has come out with cameras. Including a "blink detection" feature! And "smile" detection (though I know other cameras have it too) and GPS!!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, February 01, 2008 - 12:32 pm
Smile detection? What if people just don't smile? What if one person smiles and the other one isn't? What if you're in a big group shot? Whose smile takes priority? What is with everyone wanting GPS? Are people that lost all the time? The only place I would ever even care to have GPS is hiking in the backwoods, or out in the ocean. Other than that, looking up at a street sign is enough to tell me where I am TYVM. LOL The latest "trend" right now is people "geotagging" their photos. I see very little point to this. Takes away from what is really important: the photo itself. Give me features like less noise in a high ISO, give me better exposure, give me a longer zoom, give me more refined image stabilization. But don't waste my time with things like GPS. Now, if GE is putting it out, I DON'T mind if they have a dishwasher or cooktop stove as one of the features. LOL
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, February 01, 2008 - 12:46 pm
I laughed (see it worked!) when I heard about the smile detection feature. The only way I can see that being useful is in self-timer mode. Surely they can't think that people are too dumb to know when to press the shutter! I'm not sure that I see a lot of use for GPS either though it does have a bit of a gee whiz thing going for it. One thing it can be used for is if people are searching for images from a certain part of the world. I'm looking for more of the stuff that Eeyore mentioned.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, February 01, 2008 - 1:08 pm
The latest pro camera from Canon.

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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, February 01, 2008 - 1:29 pm
Are you drooling yet Jimmer? LOL
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, February 01, 2008 - 1:55 pm
LOL - I particularly like the "Pee Break Now" light. I think that all pros need one of those!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, February 01, 2008 - 3:54 pm
Dang Jimmer, is that using an actual camera back? Are they really that large and full of that many options. Too funny! I like the pee break now too, for those photographers who are so into their subject that they forget that they gotta go!!!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, February 01, 2008 - 5:45 pm
That and the Call Spock button (for Trek fans). Here is the real thing. Not as many buttons but they are enormous.

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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 7:16 pm
OK Jimmer, I'm getting into my camera big time. But I'm really not having any luck figuring out how to use this AE-L/AF-L button. It says you can lock exposure or focus (or BOTH?) then recompose? I just don't understand how it is different from just half-clicking the shutter. I don't know where to use it, nor do I know which of the settings I should use for the button. Ken Rockwell's site lists them: "AE/AF lock (default) locks both for as long as you hold the button. You'll see AE-L in the finder when it's locked. There is no AF-L finder indication. AE Lock only holds the measured exposure for as long as I hold the button. I use this setting. You'll see AE-L in the finder when it's locked. I usually shoot in Single AF mode, which locks the focus separately. AF Lock only locks the autofocus. This is handy if you want the lens to stop focusing, for instance, if reframing a portrait or if you're panning while a target goes behind a tree. There is no AF-L finder indication. AE Lock Hold requires just a tap, after which the D80 holds the exposure until you tap it again. This eliminates the need to hold the button, but also requires you to remember to press the button again to unlock, and press a third time to lock again. AF ON focuses the D80 when the AE-L/AF-L button is pressed. This deactivates the normal AF action of the shutter button. The only way to autofocus with this selection is to press the AE-L AF-L button. FV Lock locks flash exposure, exactly as you can set the FUNC button. This lets you use the FUNC button for something else. Focus Area Selection lets you press the AE-L/AF-L button and spin the rear dial to select the AF areas. This is similar to Canon's [+] button. I never use this; I use the Up/Down/Left/Right button. The selections below this combine other functions explained above with the Focus Area Selection via knob." My main questions are what situations I can use this button in. In one of my workshops that I took, the teacher said he LOVED the button and used it all the time, but then never really taught us what it was about, how or when we use it, etc. And I've read my manual, and I don't understand it either. I know you're a Canon guy, but maybe the manual will mean something more to you. Pages 30-31 and 94 work together to confuse me. Can you shed some light on this subject? Thanks in advance!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 7:51 am
Jimmer (or whomever else might know) I am toying now with the idea of getting a dslr. I am not exactly a beginner as in my last lifetime I did own (and love) a minolta 35mm SLR. However, that was about 100 years ago. I want as few things to mess with as possible and as small and cheap as possible too... Ones I am thinking of are the nikon d40 or d40x and the canon rebel xti. Wait, I did actually own a canon rebel half a lifetime ago, but i (sadly) used it virtually all the time in auto (oh the shame....) At any rate, when I look stuff up at sites like dcresource, they seem to compare to each other, But when I google them, seems like the canon "wins" hands down, but they also say the canon is more complicated... ANy truth to that? And does the Olympus E-410 deserve to be considered? Any input or opinions are welcomed!!!
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Landileigh
Member
07-29-2002
| Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 8:29 am
don't talk to me, i only buy Canons. I still have the best camera (to me) Canon ever made my T-90. Same with Meggieprice (our professional wedding photographer here on the board). She only uses Canon.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 10:31 am
I use all Canon equipment as well. I think Canon captured a large portion of the pro market a few years ago. As I've said before though, I am not the kind of photographer who is obsessed with equipment and obsessed with one brand over another. I do think that as a pro, there are only two real options – Canon or Nikon. Now that doesn't mean that people don't produce absolutely fantastic images with other manufacturers as well. Julie, With respect to Canon vs. Nikon, you can make good arguments for both systems. IMO you could flip a coin. It's really almost all about the photographer and not the equipment. I think the D40 is cheaper than the Canon and probably reflects that? If you want simple, small and inexpensive then I think the D40 is hard to beat. Sorry Eeyore, I missed your earlier question. All that little button does is give the photographer more control over certain functions. Some photographers love to have more control. For example, you could focus on a certain point where you think the action will occur and then you don't have to refocus when it happens. You don't have to hold the button down. Do you have any specific questions about the info that you copied? ETA: The T90 was a nice camera body!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 12:39 pm
Jimmer, I just plain can't figure out an example of the situation I could use it in, and exactly how to use it. I personally find a few of the questions for different buttons to be all the same, so I don't understand the difference in the buttons. So I find myself asking where each of those above-mentioned settings would be more advantageous. If AE lock is better if you play around with varied lighting, then use that. Of if AF lock is for hard to focus ares, then use that. Once I get a real-world idea of what situations each setting would help in, I would be able to think about MY photo habits, and choose the best setting for that button. I'm finding with photography, a lot of the manual and techno babble means nothing until you are told how to use that button in a specific situation. For example, the macro setting. Well, I never really knew what it did, except take pictures of flowers? Well, if I never take pics of flowers, I didn't think I needed the button. But then when someone says it is a shorter DOF, blah blah blah, and you would use it if you want to focus on one thing and try to blur the background a bit, THEN I can see situations where I would use that. I bought the camera so I eventually COULD have the control. But it's like giving a 16 year old an F1 car. They don't know what all the advantageous functions are yet, so can't appreciate the things the car has to offer. Not a big deal about the button. Even my teacher gave me a really vague answer. I think I need to master my exposure first, before I need to worry about those buttons. LOL I am finding more and more that these beginning stages of SLR photography need time and major patience. I don't really take time to go out for hours and take 50 shots of the same thing, with different exposure settings. I go out on my walk TO work, and maybe snap a few here and there. Then I end up coming home and thinking, " oh I wish I had taken one more pic with THIS setting dialed down" or something to that effect. I am impatient with my picture taking, and so I am not learning the best settings in certain situations, because I only take one or two shots of anything.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 12:51 pm
Julie, why aren't you just breaking out your G6 camera if you want to play around with SLR type functions? Why do you want an SLR, if you don't want to take advantage of SLR things? The fact that you wrote "I want as few things to mess with as possible and as small and cheap as possible too... " is exactly why I'd say DON'T get an SLR. If you just want to spend most of your time on the auto or program modes, I think the only advantage an SLR has over a P&S is a larger sensor. But that's not worth it, for what you've written in your post. You don't want to deal with settings and functions, you don't want it to be expensive, and you don't want it to be too big. Those are the main qualities of SLRs!!! LOL Personally, I think you need to stick to a good point and shoot, and dig out your old G6 or whatever camera you had before the 850, and get to know THAT camera, before wasting money on an SLR camera you won't be taking advantage of. There are TONS of smaller, cheaper point-and-shoot cameras that are sort of modeled like wannabe SLRs, that limit the number of things you can control, so it's not too much to fiddle with. I really don't think you want an SLR, from everything you've said. Landi and Jimmer are in the Canon camp, and I'm in the Nikon camp. Actually, CNET puts the Nikon D80 above the Rebel XTi. Personally, I think that if a person has had Canon stuff, they would probably be used to the Canon menus and interface, in a new camera. Also, Canon has its own terminology for some features, that Nikon calls something else. Canon calls it "Time Value (Tv)" and Nikon calls it "Shutter Priority". Things like that. I personally chose the Nikon D80 because it was the highest pro-sumer model. My girlfriend has the D40 and loves it. But Jimmer and Landi have Canons, so you're in good hands if you buy a Canon. Either-Or. But I don't think you really need or want an SLR.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 12:57 pm
Yep. I hesitate to use the word "work" because that might sound like we're taking the fun and joy out of it. It does take effort though. I understand how it's frustrating too. LOL - I've been doing this for a while now and I'll still look at an image and mutter under my breath about how I could have done it a lot better if only …. It's mostly a question of awareness. Being aware of the camera settings, the composition and the positioning of your subject. Just keep thinking about them for now and eventually it will come to you naturally. But you've got to keep thinking or you'll just end up doing the same thing that isn't working as well, over and over again. Oh and look at the EXIF and see what is working and what isn't. Have fun though! The great thing about this is we don't have to spend money on film. ETA: That is a good point that Eeyore is making there, Julie. Think about why you want an SLR. (LOL - I'm not exactly in the Canon camp. I'd be equally happy using a nice Nikon system if someone were to give one to me. )
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 1:23 pm
LOL Jimmer! I'll keep you in mind if ever I need to get rid of Nikon gear! I can't quite figure out bracketing. I thought that would be a good answer to my desire to learn, but lack of time/patience to take a gazillion shots. But somehow, even if I turn it on, I don't end up with 3 images when I get home. :-/ I need to go fiddle with it a bit more.
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