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Egbok
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07-13-2000

Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Egbok a private message Print Post    
Spy, just think of this situation as a lifelong learning lesson. Next time when someone asks you for the last 4 digits of your SS#, turn the question around and ask THEM what last 4 digits THEY have on record. Then you can deny or confirm...whatever you feel is appropriate for the given situation.

Bottomline: Never, ever give out your SS# over the phone.

I think you'll be okay with this situation as it sounds like they had a wrong SS# and obviously confirmed it with you.

Good luck with whatever you do from this point on.


Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 11:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
Spy I looked the number up on whocalledus.com. It does show WYSE Financial. The comments also show they are quite rude to everyone they call. You can report their phone number or comment on your call through their website if you are so inclined. Although personally I don't know what that website does about it.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 5:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
If you are up to it, I would send written complaints to BBB and Attorney General where they are located and FTC. Then contact one of the credit bureaus and put a fraud alert on your credit.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
ARGH! That's all I have to add to this conversation! I can't stand rude people!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
As a tip... I never give out the numbers of anything. If someone calls me as a wrong number, I ask THEM to verify the number they were calling. If it's incorrect, I just tell 'me so and end the call. If someone with whom I do electronic checking wants to verify my checking account number, I ask THEM to tell me the last four digits. Same with Cox Cable, who uses the last four digits of my SSN to verify that I'm who I say I am.

FWIW, you can logde a complaint with the FCC when collection agencies pull a prank like they did with you. You can also call back and ask to speak to a manager and lodge a complaint that way. I always thought it wouldn't be the suicide rate, but rather the "going postal" rate. :-)

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
This is kind of a gripe/advice issue:

On Saturday, just after my DH left and I put my DD2 down for a nap, someone rang my doorbell. I answered to see this woman standing there (kind of scroungy looking). Anyway, she begins to give me a sales pitch about doing in home demonstrations for deep carpet cleanings for $85. I see a man walking up my walk behind her, he says hello, I say hello, I explain to her that I have area rugs that didn't cost me $85 when I purchased them and that if and when they need cleaning, that I have a Bissell Steam Vac. To which she say "BISSELLS SUCK". OK, I am getting irritated at her persistance and pushiness.

I ask her to please not use that language in front of my DD1 who is standing next to me. She is still trying to get me to let her come in, and I position myself between the door jamb and the door so she cannot see in, nor can she get past me if she tried.

To that she says "Enjoy your f*ing filth then," and walked away.

I was shocked. I never got the name of the company she worked for, and not sure how I could. She had a yellow pamphlet/flyer in her hand, which is all I saw because she never gave it to me. There was a man standing back a way from her on my walkway, who when she said what she did, looked shocked, and said "enjoy your weekend ma'am. "
He was polite, but just as icky looking as her.

#1 I don't let ANYONE in my house that I do not know.
#2 I think they were casing the place, seriously. They showed up moments after DH drove away.

#3 Any idea how I could find out if they were from a company?


Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 12:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
You could ask the neighbors if they were approached as well and if they have the yellow pamplet. You gut reaction on this is the right one. Sounds like they were very unprofessional. I would be pretty mad!

Spy--I was getting calls for a collection agency about two years ago, but the calls were automated. When I called to see what it was about, sure enough it wasn't me. Lucky for me though they weren't rude. However, they did not ask for any part of my SS#. I think they can just tell by the phone number that you are who you say you are.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Escapee, if they were legit they might have left their flyer on the door of a neighbour who wasn't in at the time, I'd ask around.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 2:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Escapee, I also was thinking they were casing the joint(your house.) Just last week when I was home at lunch time, some big, messy guy came knocking on our door. Our big black lab starting barking, which I am thankful for, but my dd answered the door, he wanted to know if he could clean our carpets. My daughter told him we have our own cleaner and he left. Door to door sales is outdated for sure.
If I were you, I might send in a letter to the editor of your local newspaper just to warn others of your experience.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 2:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Denecee that's a GREAT idea about sending the editor of our paper a letter!

The other thing is that I live on a cul-de-sac which is off of another cul-de-sac. A lot of my neighbors are home all day, and can see my house from their house and I have two police officers that live on my street. Safe? Yes, so my worries about being robbed are not high, but it was very strange that they showed up moments after my DH left. Coincidence, maybe, but still my doors are staying locked.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 2:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
I doubt that they were casing your house. We get those carpet cleaning people coming around all the time. They are usually dropped off by a van and the people are never quite what I'd want a salesperson to look like. There should be some way that you can get there company name. I wouldn't worry about it but I would be ticked about the girl's attitude.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 2:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Oh, the main reason I want to find out who it was is so I can call their superior and biotch them out about the girl.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 2:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Escapee, you can call your local police station. Door-to-door people around here need to have a permit to do so. Then you could find out the company's name and register a complaint. It doesn't sound like she's the type to not repeat her vile spewing and will be reported multiple times.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I am definately with Huk Escapee. Call the police and just let them know your creep radar was going off. If they are up to nothing good then there is a good chance someone else will also call the police. If they are legit then they are more than used to having 99% of doors closed in their face and the reaction you rec'd is strange in the least. If they do have a permit to door-to-door canvas then their company needs to be informed and the police will be the best way to track them down.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 4:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Like Mamie we get those types of door to door sales people frequently around here trying to sell carpet cleaner. I'm almost positive they are the same ones who hang out in parking lots and pop out from behind parked cars trying to sell you stuff too.

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 4:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
I do not open my door to anyone I do not know. I have a sticker on the door that says, 'No Soliciting'. I can yell through the door, 'Read the sign!'

Tommy, the dh, was a cop, then a retired cop and, trust me, this is the one thing he really went ballistic over. He'd seen too many bad things.

Escapee, how old was the girl? She could have part of those travelers. The cops never catch up to them. And, if they do, it seems like they are out immediately and doing the same 'stuff' again.

I am so sorry, you had to go through this!

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 4:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
She was probably my age, mid to late 20's. The guy with her was probably mid 30's.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
If it was a vacuum company they wouldn't charge you to clean your carpet. They want in to sell you the vacuum and not only will they clean for free, you might even get a free gift to let them in. If they wanted to charge you $85, its probably a scam of some kind. Stanley Steamer, etc. don't do door to door.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 4:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
It's usually a smaller carpet cleaning firm. Nothing like Stanley Steamer. They offer to do one room and then charge you for the rest. Like I said, we get them all the time around here. I've never said yes to them but they do come around a lot.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 4:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Definitely call your PD. We often get these kids who have "permits" but are out late in the day, door to door, usually large kids who aren't happy with a "no".

I'm lucky that my front door has three glass panels and then I have lace curtains inside those, so I can always see who is at the door and not have to open it. I need a "no solicitors" sign, too.

Mictay
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09-29-2006

Friday, November 16, 2007 - 4:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mictay a private message Print Post    
My DD is 12 and will be 13 in April,she has asked many times to go to the mall with some friends,I say no way,the idea of them being at the mall alone scares me,all her friends go without their parents,am I being to over protective?

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, November 16, 2007 - 5:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Saying you want to go to the 'mall' is too vague for me. Most malls are pretty darn big, sometimes with washrooms down long scarey corridors.

Now if she wants to go look at Music store and maybe get a soda at _____ with her friends, I think she is old enough to start learning responsibility and communication. If she isnt sure where they will be hanging out, she can always give you a quick call from the mall. There are always phones.

Until you completely trust her, I'd suggest dropping her off at a certain entrance and picking her back up again at a set time. If the friends are good longterm friends, I figure she'd stick with them.

If 'school friends' (which come and go quickly ) I wouldnt let her go until you got a chance to meet them.

Hope My opinion helped a bit. I had tons of freedom as a kid because my parents knew I was raised right and they trusted me to follow the family rules.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Friday, November 16, 2007 - 6:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
I don't think you're being overprotective. In fact, many malls don't even allow groups of teenagers under 16 without parents because of many things that go on there. Stay strong, mom ... or maybe volunteer to go with ...

Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Friday, November 16, 2007 - 6:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
Mictay, I think you should go with what you are comfortable with depending on how well you think your daughter is able to handle certain situations.

Personally I would start with a little freedom and build from there.

Our mall has a movie theater. Around the same age my son wanted to start going to the movie with his friends. What I did is take him then I would stay at the mall. Once he went in to the theater I would walk around until the movie was over. After doing that for awhile he then asked if he could go to the pizza parlor after the movie, still in the mall. So I stopped waiting outside the theater and walked some more. Then I would meet him at the exit at a certain time and we would leave. Then came the just meeting friends without a movie. I was still there walking. Of course the kids spent most of their time just sitting at the fountain so every time I walked by there they were. There were many times while I was passing some of them would get up and tag along with me. I kind of got to be the go to mom since I was there. For everything from using my cell phone to call their parents, sometimes springing for ice cream cones or lemon aide, even a couple of times to providing tampons for unexpected surprises. Oh and I had built in helpers to get my packages to car during the holidays.


I kept this up for around two years, until he was 14-15. I actually look back and miss those times and realize what good shape I was in then from all that walking lol.

Mictay
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09-29-2006

Friday, November 16, 2007 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mictay a private message Print Post    
I don't have any reason not to trust my daughter,I just feel like she is very naive about things.The other thing is i'm not to comfortable with some of her friends,they are not well supervised IMO.I have offered to go with them,but that is not what she wants,she say's I treat her like A baby.I to had a lot of freedom at her age,maybe that's why I don't want her to go!

Thanks for the advice,I guess I already know the answer,I guess I always feel bad for her when her friends call her and tell her what A good time the had at the mall,but oh well.

I thought I was doing good this year,she asked at the start of school if she could start wearing make-up,I said sure,as long as it wasn't to much or painted on,I thought my BF was going to have a heart attack,but I'm trying to pick my battle's and I didn't see A problem with it she is in the 7th grade.