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Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, October 05, 2007 - 7:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Pamy, I started with 1/2 scoope of Corvalen in the morning with 1/2 teaspoon of the Calm; and same at night. As long as you don't have any bowel symptoms, you can build to a full scoop of Corvalen with 1 teaspoon of Calm morning and night, and then I added the same thing mid day. Took me about ten days to get to that dose, but that's the dose that made me feel better! I always take them together.

You don't want to increase too quickly because the magnesium in the Calm could make you a little "loose", uh, not in a good way! LOL

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Friday, October 05, 2007 - 5:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
good luck with em Pamy!!

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Friday, October 05, 2007 - 5:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
Lymes testing is really unreliable. If I recall correctly the test misses up to 80% of positive cases. [...] i snipped those from a Lymes site. There are some more specific tests out there though. Just so that if Your test comes back negative, it MAY not mean you dont have the condition.

Sunshyne, that's exactly what I was trying to convey to RG... not sure if she saw my post. LLMDs can make a clinical diagnosis and also use state of the art testing which is MUCH more reliable.

It has turned up lyme in many people I know that had been ill for a number of years and they've made tremendous improvement once finally getting it properly diagnosed.

It seems to be a hidden epidemic and an underlying cause of many chronic health problems.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, October 05, 2007 - 6:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Thx Kar and Shar.

loose wont be a problem, it is normal for me to go days without pooping

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, October 05, 2007 - 6:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
ps..so calm doesnt make ya sleepy, I guess the name confused me.

didnt ya say that this stuff has given you energy?

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, October 05, 2007 - 6:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Kar, sorry one last ?? do you mix them both in the same drink together?

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, October 05, 2007 - 7:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Pamy, Corvalen is an energy enhancement, and the magnesium in the Stress Calm makes it work better. Magnesium can help with fatigue, but also makes you sleep more soundly as well; since extreme fatigue actually causes insomnia. Hope that makes sense.

And yes, I mix them together. Makes a tasty little raspberry lemon tea-type drink if you drink it hot. A scoop of Corvalen, a teaspoon of Stress Calm, add about 1/3 cup of hot water, stir it while it fizzes and then sip it slowly; or if you're in a hurry, add a bit of cold water so it's cool enough to drink!

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Friday, October 05, 2007 - 7:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
pamy, magnesium can actually do both - give you energy and help with insomnia (sounds paradoxical, i know)

http://pages.prodigy.net/naturedoctor/insomnia.html

http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/vitamins-minerals.shtml

(i just pulled up these sites randomly real quick but i'm sure there are a ton)

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, October 05, 2007 - 7:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Thanks girls!!! I am excited to see how this wks!

Resortgirl
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09-23-2000

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 5:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Resortgirl a private message Print Post    
Sharnia, I did see it, thank you. I had heard there was a new test available through stanford university that a friend of mine took... she's probably had lymes for 6 years without knowing it. I'll be looking into that soon. I'm planning to get a referral to Mayo Clinic if they don't come up with something soon. Yesterday I had severe pain but then also numbness in my right arm. My chest felt tight and I felt I couldn't breath(but that may have been anxiety) and there were several places on that arm that the muscles were painful to the touch. So always new and exciting things to look forward to each day. Thrilling!!!

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
awww RG I know how that is : (

everyone i have known who has had these sorts of problems (whether it is rooted in lyme, candida, parasites, or whatever else) has had anxiety - its not just in your head but physically your nerves can be out of whack (and then it makes you feel anxious in the head)

it sucks

hope you can get some relief and find some answers soon. hang in there!!


Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 9:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
RG, I think going to Mayo Clinic is an excellent idea. You are lucky to be so close. I had a girlfriend who was having all sorts of bizarre epileptic type things happening, and her doctors could not figure it out. She went to Mayo and they diagnosed a virus in her brain and managed to get rid of it.

In fact, Karuuna, you going to Mayo Clinic is probably also an excellent idea.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Do they have a spa at the Mayo or nearby? RG and I could turn it into fun and games!

Resortgirl
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09-23-2000

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Resortgirl a private message Print Post    
Here ya go Kar~ I'd meet you there for a long weekend.. Tests on Friday, Relax on Saturday...
http://www.kahler.com/grand/services.html

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Good grief, I have stayed at the Kahler. In 1967 when my mother was in the Mayo clinic. Back then it was just a regular hotel.

And seriously, I think you both should try to go there. And why not go together? Yay!! We have a TVCH get together.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
ITA - what a GRANDE idea!

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
LOL, we may be on to something. Now how do we go about getting tests scheduled for the same Friday. Seriously, how do you get tests scheduled there at all?

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 10:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
RG might know.

This page has a link titled Becoming a Patient:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester/

Looks like just what you need.

I really do want you to go there, Karuuna.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Oh, four working days to complete an evaluation.... Sounds like it's a bit longer than "Friday!"

Rubyroo77
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08-13-2005

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rubyroo77 a private message Print Post    
Pamy-thank you for the welcome- you are sweet!

As you know with fibro, even reading after a while makes you feel sick..but I went back to the beginning of this thread and saw that you were going to do an eb treatment, where you stick your feet in a tub of water and a module is added with sea salt and it pulls toxins out of your body..did you try it?

I was diagnosed a couple years ago with lyme from my kinesiologist(sp?)chiropractor. He uses a cold laser to get rid of it, has anyone heard of this. He found the lyme was in my liver,kidneys, heart,spleen, bladder..and they use a laser that works much like sound is used to break up kidney stones. This uses light, and a certain frequency will kill the virus. I went every week for many months and it worked.

Although I still have fm..it is more tolerable. I had some very strange symptoms with lyme-I would be afraid to drive on the highway- my chiro was 45 minutes away and by the time I got there for treatment- I was sobbing- thankfully the girls there are the most empathetic people and gave hugs and talked soothingly to help calm me.

After the laser I would soak my feet for 20 minutes in the eb..and the water was really gross! I had a very hard time with the detox..I had weird herxheimers..but it did work!

I take magnesium/calcium-b vitamins, lysiene,potassium (Standard Process Organically Bound Minerals)-Basic 4 multivitamins- they have no metals-iron, chromium- I think that's it.

Do all of you have pain if someone pokes you or hugs you too hard..and does it stay hurting for minutes after..does your flesh feel like it is badly bruised? I ask cause some people I know with fm-don't have that.

I hope all of you have a good day!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Ruby, I did the foot bath thing and lots of stuff came out, the next day I had lots of energy but not much any other day, I did it a 2nd time and nothing really felt different.

hugging doesnt hurt me. I wish I got more :-)

touching on parts of me does hurt(sharp pain) but it doesnt last too long. I always hurt anyway.

Hope you continue sharing here Ruby (((Ruby)))

Kar/RG, where is Mayo clinic?

Tess
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04-13-2001

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tess a private message Print Post    
Pamy, the Mayo Clinic is in Rochester, MN about 90 miles southeast of my house give or take a mile or two. It's in southeastern MN a bit off of Hwy 52 not too far north of I-90.

Hugging too hard is agonizing for me. Poking is nearly intolerable. When Charlie has to help me sit up, get out of bed or off the floor when I fall, the pain of his helping is usually even worse than the pain of falling or not being able to sit up. Poor guy. He always appears to be so angry when I hurt myself but my sister said it's probably because he gets so scared.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 5:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
aahhh ty Tess.

Rubyroo77
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08-13-2005

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 5:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rubyroo77 a private message Print Post    
{{{Pamy}}} Everyone needs hugs!!! I am glad this thread is here. I have read the threads before on FM..but never came out of the fm closet.

Tess-I think your sister is right. Guys will do that because they want to fix things..that's why most men don't like it when women cry...cause they can't fix it.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 5:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
(((Ruby))) backatcha!! I am so glad ya 'came out' :-)

I agree about guys, they mean well but cant fix us and it kills them to see us hurt