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Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 5:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
The SD600 has a view finder and the SD630 does not. My daughter likes a view finder, so that made the decision a little easier. Also helps the the SD600 was cheaper.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 7:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I like a viewfinder and I gather if you use one it is less draining on the battery than using the lcd display.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 8:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I like the viewfinder for DARK situations, where the LCD screen doens't really pick up a lot of detail before the flash with go off to lighten the subjects.

I was at a dimly lit party last night, and even though the flash would light people up when the camera was TAKING the picture, I couldn't make out if the people were all "in" the frame!!

Julie, I'd go Canon over Sony ONLY because the Sony demands use of the "Memory Stick" and the Canon uses the SD card which is more useable in other cameras. Most cameras use the SD card, only Sonys use the memory stick. I HAD a Sony, but then when I upgraded, I had to decided if I wanted another Sony, or to go with a different brand, and then have to buy all new memory cards. I went with a different brand and new memory, as SD was used in many different cameras, so I'll be able to move around.

The Canon SD600 is one of Cnet's highest rated compact cameras.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 9:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
FWIW, I agree with Eeyore and Sea (but then I'm used to using SLRs and you have to use a viewfinder with them).

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 9:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
I have a Sony and it takes either a memory stick or a compact flash card, fwiw. (Actually, it takes both -- I can switch between them)

P.S. - I have my sights set on a Nikon D80, though.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 9:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
well a day at CA adventure with pic taking on new camera..so far it has TOO many bells and whistles! LOl it seems way more complicated than the cannon

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 5:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Interesting Yank. Which model of Sony? Higher end? (I notice some of the DSLRs can use multiple card types.) I wonder if Sony is moving away from their obsession with proprietary media. I think it's their Achilles heel, as they have YET to have success with it.

Nikon D80! Drool!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 12:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
My Fuji uses both compact flash and XD cards. I got a great deal on a 4 gig compact flash and haven't even had to erase from it yet.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
Yep, Eeyores -- is a Sony Cyber-shot DSC-V3 which they don't sell anymore but was a higher end model (7.2 mp).

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 12:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
is there a thread here already set up to share great pics?

I've finally found a wonderful digital camera and have been getting back into photography.

It would be great to have it set up for Scenery pics/ Holiday Pics and Family Pics. I've noticed that there are plenty of pics but often just as part of an ongoing Chat thread.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 10:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Jimmer,

I was wondering if you could help me.... I took a bunch of pics at a night club last night, and I'm wondering why they came out sort of....hazy.

Here's an example:
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It's weird....it's like the white kind of makes the whole picture almost "cloudy". There weren't any special effects like smoke at the club. I had my camera on "part" settings, which meant a faster shutter speed (according to the manual). But even on "snapshot" mode, the pictures came out the same. It's like they were taken in a graveyard or something. Creepy.

Any reason why this was happening?

PS - I had "red eye" pre-flash on, if that matters.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, March 30, 2007 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That's interesting. Maybe you could email me the original so I can see the EXIF information (which will show the camera settings) and also see it full size?

I sent you an email.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I looked at your pictures and I think there may be a whole lot of stuff going on there. Sorry if this sounds a bit discouraging.

First of all, shooting in those conditions makes it very hard to get good results. The room is very dark, it is large, there are very few light colored reflecting surfaces and the people are moving. By using your on camera flash, you are using a small, not very powerful direct light source. In order to get good results in that situation, you need to use a powerful diffused light source that spreads the light around a lot and makes it even.

Anyway, I think you have some motion blur, I think you are getting some flare from the flash, the flash isn't diffused enough, you are getting some glow off the people and I think you might have some focussing issues.

I'm not sure there is a lot you can do to improve things with the equipment that you are working with. It can be improved in PhotoShop but it isn't easy (see below).

Adjusted

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 9:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
In thinking about it, the picture also has something called chromatic aberration, which generally manifests itself as purple outlines around subjects. It has to do with the way the light passes through the lens. Here it is again with the chromatic aberration removed in PhotoShop. It's subtle but it all adds up.

Rev 2

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Thanks Jimmer! I'm wondering....I can't remember the "autofocus" light thingy coming on. It's like this orange light that goes before the flash. I don't remember turning it off, but I'm wondering it that's a focus issue that cold have contributed to it.

But I've had other "club" shots on other nights that didn't have such a glowy effect. Like the guy in the blue sweater has his collar "glowing" onto the shoulder of his sweater, and his wrist does that too.

Here are some shots from another club night.

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The thing I am wondering here is why the whites don't "bleed" into the rest of the areas. The lighting in the two clubs here is actually DARKER than at the one with the wonky picture.

I'm just wondering if this all may have to do with the orange autofocus light helper. I just want to figure out what I did, so I won't do it again at an important event.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
PS - Jimmer, I can't thank you enough for your insights. It helps to have a more rained eye look at photo mistakes. I really appreciate your help!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
You're welcome!

The lighting in the two clubs here is actually DARKER than at the one with the wonky picture.

This is probably a clue. It makes me think that you may be having a problem with subject movement or ghosting. Many people don't know this but flash duration is extremely short. It is much shorter than the shutter-speed. Normally subject movement isn't too much of a concern with flash photography as the short duration of the flash, freezes the motion.

However, because there was a little more ambient light in your problem shots, there may have been enough ambient light to allow us to see some subject movement or what I would call ghosting. So the subject is mostly frozen by the flash, but there is still a little movement.

A solution to this would be using a smaller aperture so that it picks up less ambient light or using a faster shutter-speed. The downside of that is that the background will be slightly darker.

On a positive note, I looked at some of your other images and you seem to be getting some very good results.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
There's this cool setting on my camera that is something like "candlelight party" or something....it create INSANE ghosting!! I've got some interesting shots with friends on that setting:

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I love that my friend's head is in two places here...

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 1:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - Thats great!

And as we said, what it's doing is a very slow shutter-speed with flash.

Karen
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09-07-2004

Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
Eeyore, I have a setting on my camera that does something similar every now and then...



I have a question about Flash, particularily using Flash movies (.swf) in Sony Vegas, video editing software. There may not be anyone here to help, but it's worth a try...

All indications tell me that Vegas 6.0 supports .swf files. The .swf movie that I've created even shows up in the Explorer view of files to drag into the Vegas timeline. But for some reason when I import, this is what happens:



See how it's all red blocks where the images should be? All those red blocks are actually the images within the Flash, as you can see here:


I've bitten off way more than I can chew but I'm determined to make this work. Any thoughts / suggestions? For what it's worth, Flash gives the option to publish as a .mov as well, but when I imported the Flash .mov, all that appeared on the Vegas timeline was audio, of which there is none. And the video file didn't import...

No worries if no one knows... but worth a try, thanks!

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 1:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Found a really cool "noise reduction" program. I'm playing around with it, and kinda liking it. Very simple, for those who ave trouble with Photoshop....

http://www.neatimage.com/

Urgrace
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08-19-2000

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Urgrace a private message Print Post    
My dh gave me a digital camera for Christmas, and I've taken maybe not quite 200 shots with it. Yesterday it wouldn't let me take a shot and told me I need a new battery pack!

Is that normal?

Canon PowerShot SD630 Digital Elph
6.0 mega pixels
3X optical zoom

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Urgrace, I know this may sound elementary, but did it come with a charger, and have you charged it yet? 200 shots sounds like a fairly normal amount on a single charge....

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 3:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Urgrace -- I hope you're using rechargable batteries! Digitals really suck up the battery power and about a full day's use is all you'll get out of them. So you need two sets of rechargable batteries so you always have a fresh set on hand to swap out. I've noticed once my camera says "low battery" I can take 1 or 2 more pictures and then the camera is dead.

Urgrace
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08-19-2000

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 4:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Urgrace a private message Print Post    
Yep. I checked the box it came in and there was a recharger in it. Didn't realize I had left anything in there besides all the 'foreign language' how to books.

Thanks Eeyores and Brenda! I'll make a run to the store for an extra battery.