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The TVClubHouse: General Discussions ARCHIVES: Oct. 2007 ~ Dec. 2007: WILDFIRES and mudslides: ARCHIVES: Archive through December 06, 2007 users admin

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Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, November 30, 2007 - 9:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Wargod...I sent four. I'm sitting here freaking out because the rain is starting again.

Man, oh, man...it's gonna be a rough year.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Friday, November 30, 2007 - 9:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
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Wargod
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07-16-2001

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Wargod
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07-16-2001

Friday, November 30, 2007 - 9:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Oh man, Bee, I'm so sorry. How long is the rain supposed to last?

It rained here til about 3:30 and then stopped for awhile and started again about 5 for close to an hour. Hasn't started back up since then though I don't think it's over either.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, November 30, 2007 - 9:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Thank you, thank you, Wargod.

As you can see, it took out our fence. That burm of mud you see on the last pic is actually about three feet high. It crested over a hump we have in the road and created a damn there. The branches from burned trees created a barrier against the fence which then broke thru the fence and tore that section out.
The remainder of the fence is compromised and tweaked and the support posts gave way. The fence is "wavy" now, not standing structurally strong as it was before.

As you can see in the first two pics, it dammed up the culvert with mud, boulders, branches and pieces of the fence. This then gave way and washed out our lower neighbor's driveway which has about two feet of standing mud in it.

We were able to get a bobcat out and push the mud to the sides of the road so that if Emergency Vehicles need to come thru tonight they can pass now...

but what a mess!
Tomorrow, when it's daylight, we will know better what all we have to deal with. It's raining again now. I am praying it doesn't break loose again.

Across the street is where last month's burn was. There is nothing but black land up there and nothing to hold it back. And unfortunately, they didn't put the haybale stacks up as they didn't think this rain would be that bad.

I'm stressed. Can you tell? lol

It's good to be able to come here and tell my story, though.

Thank you, Thank you, Wargod. I really appreciate it.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, November 30, 2007 - 9:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Holy smokes, Bee! I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you that you don't have any more rain for the time being. You certainly have had your share of mess this year! I'll be thinking good thoughts for you



Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, November 30, 2007 - 9:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Huk. I'll be feeling those good thought. I need them. lol

We'll be fine, I know. And no one was hurt...no homes damaged.

Neighbor did lose his chicken coop and all the chickens in it. He was so proud when they made it thru the fires...but now they're gone.

Other neighbor lost a shed...says he can't even find it yet.

We've been here twenty years and really do love it, but it's taking it's toll this year. We've had rough years in the past, but this one just keeps throwing one thing after another...and we're getting a little old for this kind of thing. lol In younger years, I'd be out there with a shovel. This year, I'm just gonna hold the flashlight.
lol

War...where are you? It's still raining here (in the Saddleback Mountains) pretty good.

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Friday, November 30, 2007 - 9:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
What a heartbreaking mess, Bee. My thoughts are with you and everyone affected.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Herck! We all appreciate it.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
You're very welcome Bee.

We're in the Antelope Valley (Lancaster, Palmdale, Quartz Hill, etc.) Up between Los Angeles and Edwards AFB.

I just saw a news clip about forced evacuations from some of the mudslide areas, that isn't ya'll is it? They didn't say where it was yet.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Oh, dear. Perhaps Modjeska. I'd better turn the news on.
They sometimes mistakenly call us Williams Canyon, so if you hear that, I might be in some trouble.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Sorry, I wasn't around earlier.. had a long phone call.. I also saw a blurb about evacuations!

And it is starting to rain again here.. it hasn't been too hard for us, just steady, but then we aren't in a burn area either.

I've been thinking of you all day, Bee!! That is too bad they didn't put up the hay bales.

That looks like Modjeska looked like when we moved there after the floods of early 1969. Mud everywhere.. Actually Modjeska Creek took about 25 feet off the back of the lot and any topsoil that might have been on the land was washed downstream. It was rocks and mud and debris.. even books, school papers and such from upstream (but entire houses had gone down the creek, too).

I just wish the rain could skip you over. I know the ski resorts are getting some snow and we certainly need the rain here, but you don't need it right now, in this quantity, huh?

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Sure don't, Sea.

I have a feeling it's going to be another long night here.
It's so unnerving!

They have begun to put those white barrier things up along the main road in here, but that's a public road and our is private so they won't come in here with those.

Tomorrow will tell a clearer picture. We were able to get it pushed back off the road thanks to my neighbor's bobcat thingy so at least a firetruck can pass thru if it needs to.

The rocks, mud, debris IS really something else. Pieces of buildings, scrap metal, plastic toys, huge rocks and boulders, 8 foot long branches. Just ALL kinds of damaging stuff.

It has just begun a very heavy downfall. DH and I are going to sling on the rain gear and take a look see.

Wish us luck. It's really coming down now.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, November 30, 2007 - 11:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Well, it's coming down again. We are hoping we have cleared enough to keep it from causing too much more damage tonight.

I'm hearing that Modjeska is being manditory evacuated. I'm just hoping we're not next. They have the "scouts" out.

And the rain is not letting up.
Quite a tense night.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 12:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
How far are you from Modjeska Bee? I hope that the rain stops soon for you and you guys don't have any more damage tonight!

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 12:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
We're basically the next canyon over.

Hasn't let up yet, is saying probable rain til 3am.

yikes.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 12:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Modjeska is such a deep/narrow box canyon, too.. Have a thought for my friends Bruce and Caroline.... that house did go through the '69 floods and mudslides and at least the creek is between them and the mountain (well there may be homes over there too.. unfortunately for those people..

Rain has stopped again down here. We are under flash flood warning until 4am .

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 12:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Yes, it is, Sea. I've been listening to that link Chili provided me and they are trying to get folks to leave, but they don't want to. They are "scouting" the area...but really, when land goes it goes. Scouting doesn't really do much good.
Hope everyone will be allright tonight. Hope the rain lets up here soon.

Skootz
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07-23-2003

Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 6:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skootz a private message Print Post    
Wow Bee, it is so hard to imagine what you have gone through recently. Thanks for having the pictures posted so we have a little perspective of what is happening.

Hope it all goes back to "normal" soon for you, your family and the families that have been affected by these fires and mud slides

(((((((hugs)))))))

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 12:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
So sorry Beek that you are going through all this misery right now. Hope it all sorts itself out soon and you can finally rest and put it behind you.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Dry weather here, today.. I sure hope the canyons have the same.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 3:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Well, we've done the best we can. I'm finished for the day. It's hard work. The road is passable now, so long as no more big rains come. It's mighty cold and sprinkled a time or two.

It sure feels funny with that big hole in the fence. I can't run around naked now. lol

Next week we'll just have to get that fixed.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

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Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Well, I can't believe this but we've been put under another evacuation notice. Got the call about half an hour ago. At this point, my particular street is not mandatory. But Modjeska, Silverado and Williams Canyons all are.

All canyon roads will be closed at 8pm.
Livestock is being moved out now.

Our local firestation tells us this WILL be a major event tonight, the worst coming between 2-4am.

Egbok
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07-13-2000

Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 7:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Egbok a private message Print Post    
Beekind, are you leaving?