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Spitfire
Member
07-18-2002
| Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 12:34 pm
Parenting is tough. Each kid responds to different things. And once you figure out what works for your kid, 3 days later it no longer works. LOL So true! I'm loving all the suggestions I'm getting here. I have never tried a time out for myself. I think I may try that.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 1:04 pm
Spitfire, I think washing his hands is a great ringer! I used to 'reward' brushing their teeth so they would get in the habit of doing it. I would lean towards rewarding on the chart only. lack of a sticker is enough 'punishment'. the reward chart is supposed to be a reward for good behavior not in place of misbehavior. you would still treat those the way you do. my daughter never did well with anything like 3 strikes your out cause her feelings were (and this is at 4 years old) heck, if i got one or 2, i might as well go down in a flame of glory! my oldest, one warning would just kill him so that's all he needed.
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Spitfire
Member
07-18-2002
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 5:07 am
Thanks all you expert moms!! I love all the advice I have received and really appreciate it. Last night was a great night. No major blow ups. Check 1 for the good guys!
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 5:13 am
Girll wait till they become teenagers 
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 5:29 am
Thanks all you expert moms!! experts??? ROFL!!!!!!!!!! i don't think there is such a thing. there is just someone whose been there right before you.
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Spitfire
Member
07-18-2002
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 6:01 am
Mocha I've thought about that already. I think when the times comes my problem will be with Myla. She is hell on wheels!! The cutest specimen of hell on wheels though.

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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 6:11 am
Lol!
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:22 am
She is adorable!!!! I agree, I loved reading all the advice! Good luck! I feel bad complaining about D - it's hard to put down in type exactly what I really want to say sometimes. I remember one night, last July when he was 3 months old and full-force colicky and during one of his night time meltdowns I was yelling out to no one: "YOU WIN!!! WHOEVER IS OUT TO GET ME, YOU WIN!!!"....
Somehow I always kept it together when we were out in public! Thank god I can laugh about it now....
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 5:14 pm
That is exactly it Panda, always keep in mind that whatever is going on, you will laugh about it some day.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 2:22 pm
I seriously LOL'd at this article. Too dang funny. I love all these "cutting" edge parents.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 2:46 pm
I read an article about that a few weeks ago and started giggling. And then I put on my serious face and told my sister that I read about a new parenting technique that I thought she should try when her baby was born and told her about it. She looked at me like my head had fallen off, lol and then told me I was welcome to try it when the baby came to visit me but she wouldn't be doing it, lol.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 2:50 pm
That was pretty funny! 
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 5:44 pm
LMAO -- as my sitter told me when I was training a reluctant 2 1/2 yr. old boy -- "Stories of kids being potty-trained at 13-15 mos. are baloney. It's the PARENTS who are trained, not the kids!"
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Ducky
Member
08-27-2000
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 7:05 pm
War I probably could not have keep a straight face while trying to explain it to someone. This part really made me crack up laughing For example, one of the basic tenets of the diaper free movement is the practice of "elimination communication" (known for years as "looking like you gotta go"). People who master the art of elimination communication are known as "EC'ers" (formerly "folks with too much time on their hands").
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 7:57 pm
LOL Ducky, I've had practice, I'd been giving sis the most ridiculous advice throughout this whole pregnancy. I'm not normally one to joke around about other parents techniques, whatever works for them ya know, but on the potty training issue, I'm with Teach's sister, at that age it's not potty training, it's parent training. My nephews just about 16 months old and while admitedly biased, I think he's a pretty smart kid. But if I waited for him to indicate to me he had to go potty, I'd already have a mess on my hands, lol. Half the time he can't figure out why I'm pinning him down and stripping him half naked when he's wet or dirty!
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 9:35 pm
I love how some parents raise their children by parenting books. My aunt did this. Raised them by several different books instead of by common sense and off of the experience of experienced mothers. Her kids are sociopaths. However, my cousin, was potty trained at 18 months, did it on her own. My dd who is 19 months hates being wet or dirty, and she comes and tells me that she has gone. Now if I could just get her to tell me she has to go....
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 12:34 pm
LOL @ the article!!! I did hear of that once and thought it was nuts! I also agree that it is "parent training" not potty training kids. We are sooo not ready over here to start potty training (my son is 17months old)- I can never tell when Dante does a poop unless I catch a whiff of him! He never makes a straining or special face when he goes, and he never complains about a dirty dipe! I think books are good to read, if you like to read in the first place but I found I just can't conform to one way. I got a sleep help book and read it through and through but I realized that it did NOT have a solution to what I was having a problem with, just assumed all sleep problems with babies are the same.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 10:05 pm
Children in China do not wear diapers. They wear split pants. I am not sure how that works and not sure I want to know. But I have seen the split pants on Chinese children in the 21st century in major world cities.
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Graceunderfyre
Member
01-22-2004
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 11:05 pm
lol - you know I think this movement started in India or at least in Asia. The thing is, I think what happened is there is a certain philosophy when it comes to toilet training that got taken to an extreme by the white people (I mean the British). I looked into elimination communication with my first and there are books and books and books about infant toilet training - some even written by Indians. And I tried it with my son - no I did not watch him 24/7 and I also had him in cloth diapers. Doing it the non crazy way, which is basically keeping to a routine or schedule, he was pretty much trained by 9 months old BUT when we moved out here everything got messed up. Between the 2 day trip to transport it all and all the non routine stuff that happens when you make a major routine - it literally took about 2 weeks worth of non routine to get him out of his schedule. In the end, he was trained by about 2. I'm guessing the reason they don't use diapers in the article is because babies don't have the muscle to take off and put on their own diapers. Because even though he was on a schedule, he still needed DH or I to take the diaper off and support him on the toilet so he could go.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Friday, September 28, 2007 - 11:44 pm
Maris, was it you who told me several years ago that the things I was griping about at the time would eventually change, lol? Caleb being the little chatter box and not turning in homework in class is what I was griping about. Well today I had parent teacher conferences. I talked to his cross country coach and pe teacher, both said the same thing. Caleb enjoys running and he's one of the few who doesn't complain when they run laps. Their cross country program is made up mostly of kids who belong or want to belong to other sports teams and they do cc not because they like it but for conditioning. I talked to his homeroom/social studies/science teacher. He's doing doing excellent in science (all 100%'s on assignments,labs, and tests except for one test is a 95%.) He's done well on social studies class and homework but failed a test. Not because he didn't get it but because he didn't bother to study (to which he replied he'd gotten all A's on his science tests without studying, he didn't think he needed to study at home for social studies.) I just sat and stared at him for a second, lol, especially since Social Studies this year is on Ancient Civilizations and I love that stuff, please let me help you study!! He promised he would. She then finished up telling me that he's a great and bright kid though he still isn't eager to show classmates that he's bright. He's polite and respectful and never talks in class when he's not supposed to. "Excuse me?? I must have heard you wrong." I told her every single year I hear the same thing except that it ends with, "and he is friendly and talks to his friends all during class!" She laughed and said nope, this year he's very quiet in class when he's supposed to be. So Maris, you were right, he really did grow out of it! I didn't get to meet his math/language arts teacher. He had brain surgery a few weeks ago and is still in the hospital so he understandably wasn't there. I also had conference with Dakota's teacher. She's a wonderful, friendly, helpful child. She's also quiet in class (no surprise there) even though overall it's a fairly chatty class. Her teacher is thrilled Kota tried out for the cross country team and said she was proud of her because she has so much fun doing it. She told me that too the other day at the meet. She's doing very well in all her classes. Social Studies is her strongest one, but she's also doing well in the rest too. What had me, and later Darren when he got off work, excited was the huge, dramatic improvement in her reading comprehension, accuracy, and fluency and in spelling. We've known she's been doing better but to see the test scores compared to last year at this time was a real WOW moment. They're still doing tutoring mostly for the fluency and she's still seeing the speech therapist. When I mentioned that last year at this time they were talking about testing for a learning disability she told me that when she had gone over Dakota's records for last year she would have said the same thing, but that this year she just doesn't see it and actually wondered if they were the wrong records. All in all it was a good day for parent teacher conferences.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, September 28, 2007 - 11:58 pm
That is great news War. You can look back now and laugh at yourself at how upset you were at those "talks too much reports". I certainly have laughed at how upset I used to get, lol.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 12:56 am
Yup, I can, and looking back on it, he could have been doing so much worse than just talking too much, but those first few years in particular it seemed like the biggest problem in the world, lol!
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Sewmommy
Member
07-06-2004
| Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 5:47 am
So there is hope for my talker?! My dear sweet bright child, who I have to wonder if sometimes is a little bored in class. That is one of things her teachers tell me all the time.(she's 7 and in 2nd grade) A question for you other moms, can you teach common sense? We know same dd is very bright, reads way above grade level and is very good in all of her other subjects at school. But the differentiating(sp) between right and wrong in everyday situations just isn't there alot, not thinking. A friend of mine describes her as a smart ditz. Yeah, and to top it off, there is a issue of lies that, while not major, concerns us a bit.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 10:24 am
There's hope, Sewmommy, lol. I don't know that you can teach common sense, but I think you can hammer it into their thick little skulls. Dakota (she just turned 9) had absolutely none when it came to viewing something and determining it wasn't safe. She never looked at things and thought, oh I might get hurt doing that, instead it was, oh that looks like fun! Scared the crap out of us. We just kept talking to her about it (seriously, this started when she was about 2 and went way beyond being fearless.) You can't dance and jump on a glass topped table or it'll break (it did,) you can't walk across the top of the jungle gym, you'll fall off, you can't write your tricycle into the street, you'll get crushed. Something worked, not sure if she just grew out of it or if all our talking worked but the last couple years she hasn't done anything really scary. She's still fearless, but seems to know when something she's thinking of doing could seriously hurt her.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 10:32 am
didn't know where else to put this but: Ban Sought on Cold Medicine for Very Young There is some very interesting information in the article ...
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