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Cushing's Disease

The TVClubHouse: General Discussions ARCHIVES: Jul. 2007 ~ Sept. 2007: Cushing's Disease users admin

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Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Well we took our little dog Kimba in for his annual checkup (he is 5 now) and they always do all the comprehensive blood work we get a message at the end of the day from the vet that a few of his numbers were high.

The vet says that he has all the symptoms of this Cushing's disease and we will need to call him tomorrow and schedule some more tests.

I've read some stuff on the net but it really does not satisfy me. I'm very concerned. Hard to find info about the success rates.

Anyone ever have any experience with this and their pet?

Thanks in advance.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 5:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
There's an entire thread for DOGS.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 6:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I never knew animals could get this disease, because I've heard of it for humans.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 6:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Cats, Dogs, and very rarely humans.

Next step is an ultrasound to see if there is a tumor. And then some sort of acth test.

I understand that the other side of the thing is called Atkins.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 6:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
I am hoping that someone has some experience with this and their pet and can lend a little first-hand insight.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Tobor, it is very common in horses, and I have a great deal of experience with that, but I am not sure how applicable that is to dogs.

In horses, it is a metabolic illness caused by overactivity of the pituitary, and characterized by excessive hair growth and lack of shedding, and excessive hoof growth, resulting in permanent damage and lameness. It typically occurs in horses over 20 years old. It's treated with pergolide, which can prolong life quite a bit, but it is very expensive.

Again, I'm not sure that applies at all to pups, but it's all I know. I hope your puppy gets well, and there are treatments for dogs as effective.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 7:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
We lost my horse a couple of years ago to Cushings. Our Appy-Draft has it now too, but the medication he is on is making it almost non existent.

Slothkitten
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09-16-2003

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Slothkitten a private message Print Post    
I'm sorry to hear about Kimba, Tobor.
I don't know anything about Cushings in animals . . . but I do know Kimba is in great hands with you taking care of him, sending positive puppy vibes for a good outcome

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
my dog is suspected of having Cushings disease, but as she is 14 & has cancer, we have not pursued the testing. Dogdoc is a really good source on this board as she is a vet. what i do know is that it isn't curable but treatable. according to my local vet, the test they do runs about $300. Dogdoc says there is a much less expensive test. the treatment is a type of poison as you are trying to kill the adrenal glands which is the cause. both Dogdoc & my local vet said that many dogs respond very well to the treatment.

i wish i could be more help.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 8:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
they think our dog has it. dogdoc has been more optimistic about treatment than my vet has. i am going to ask him about the meds that she suggested.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 3:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Thanks so much everyone. I'll email Dogdoc. And I'll keep you informed as the testing gets started to see what it is.

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 4:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonzacat a private message Print Post    


Missyb
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07-28-2004

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
Tobor7, my 10 year old Akita was diagnosed with Cushings. Getting the diagnosis and getting her on the appropriate medication saw a complete change in her. She dropped almost 20 pounds, was more interested and alert and the quality of her last year of life was wonderful. SHe didn't die from Cushings, it was from bloat while she was boarded. 10 is getting old for an AKita but I felt we would have had a least another year or more from her, that's how much of a difference the medication made. My doctor put her on Lysodren and she had no side effects from it. However, it is an expensive drug. Well, it was for my dog as she was a large dog.
I hope everything turns out well for your Kimba.
P.S. When my girl was diagnosed it was because she had gone into a very bad episode of excessive thirst and lethargy. I had to lock her in the house to keep her from drinking in the pool. WHen I got her to the vets and they were going to keep her overnight, I immediately was on the internet and it was I who suggested testing her for CUshings, Turned out I was right.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Wow Missy, what a story. It gives me some good hope here. I thank you. I am certainly worried, but I hope we found it soon enough. I know the hard part is determining the right drug and dose.

I really appreciate your first-hand knowledge.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Tobor, hope you can find the right treatment and dosage for Kimba.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 4:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
I understand that the dossage thing is very important.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 5:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Tober I have treated dogs for this and they have done well. Lysodren has all sorts of warnings but I have never had trouble with it. You start high and then cut back to a low dose after a week or two. PM or e-mail me if you want to know more. Progress can be checked by a urine cortisol/creatine.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
ps the opposite is called Addison's disease where there is not enough cortisol produced.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 4:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
The little guy had the ultrasound. They didn't see any tumors. Now he has a shaved belly. A little extra air conditioning for the summer.

His urine tests came back normal as well.

So 2 good things so far.

They also did the blood tolerance test. We'll have the results in a day or so.

Retired
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07-11-2001

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Retired a private message Print Post    
Yay! So far, so good. Continued good wishes for good test results.

Puppy21969
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10-04-2005

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puppy21969 a private message Print Post    
I am almost positive that is what my brothers Schnauser was diagnosed with a couple of years ago. I know at diagnosis they were scared but he has responded well to his medication and is doing well.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
if they are looking for Cushings, wouldn't that be in the pituitary? That's not in the belly.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Texannie they would have been doing ultrasound on the adrenal glands. Cushings is an excess of adrenal cortex hormones. It can be a primary adrenal problem. The other form is excess adrenal gland hormone due the pituitary putting out a hormone ACTH (adrenal cortico tropic hormone) that goes to the adrenal gland and stimulates it to put out too cortisol.

Slothkitten
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09-16-2003

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Slothkitten a private message Print Post    
Good to hear about Kimba. Sounds really hopeful so far.
I love to pet those shaved puppy/kitty bellies, lol.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 5:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Update- We completed the first test. The ACTH test. Kimba's base number was 1.4, and after the injection anything up to 18 is okay. The gray area is 18 to 22 and anything above 22 is Cushings.

Kimba came back at 21.5 - which is very close to 22, but the vet wants to do an additional test to be sure. So the next one is a low dose Dex test. This should happen tomorrow. Our vet just had a new baby this week so things have been a little delayed.

Retired
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07-11-2001

Thursday, June 14, 2007 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Retired a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the update. Keeping positive thoughts for Kimba.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Sorry to hear about Kimba, Tobor. I hope she gets the right treatment if needed and is soon feeling better.

Bearware
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07-12-2002

Thursday, July 05, 2007 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bearware a private message Print Post    
Sorry to hear about Kimba, Tobor. My chow had Addison's Disease, and we treated her for about a year. We didn't catch it early, and it wasn't greatly successful, but sounds like Kimba's on her way back to health! I'll be praying!

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Monday, July 09, 2007 - 3:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Addison's Disease is a lot harder to treat than Cushings. Boarder line Cushings cases can do fine without medication. Reduction of stress in the pets life is important. We use Bach flowers for dogs that are stressed.