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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 8:22 pm
OK so I am headed to bed. I have not taken any benedryl today so that is a good thing. I still have areas of red but nothing has been too over the top for me today, more burning irritated than itchy. Hope you are continuing the no itchies as well....
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Justavice
Member
11-22-2005
| Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 5:06 pm
I need some TVCH help here. My insurance for my new job doesn't kick in until August 4th, so here goes... For the last week, I have had really bad pain in my back, specifically, the upper quadrant of the right side of my back. It hurts to stand up straight, it hurts to touch the muscles, etc. But it also hurts on the front. If I press a finger against my ribcage, on the inside of my right shoulder area toward the middle of the right breast area (I am thin, so the rib bones are accessible), the pain is horrible. What in the world would cause pain on both the back and the front areas at the same time?? And does anyone know what would heal it? I've tried IcyHot, stickypads, aspirin, etc. It hurts to sniff my nose too hard. This is ridiculous. Any thoughts, medical advice, ideas, ANYTHING!!!! would be helpful. Thanks in advance, I hope there is an answer somewhere that doesn't cost me a fortune to find out. 
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Nancy
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 5:16 pm
it sounds like either ribs or lungs--have you had a cold or anything like that lately?
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 6:39 pm
Justavice, pain in the front and back simultaneously can be "referred pain." If you have a muscle spasm in your back, for example, pain can also manifest in your front, or even feel like an internal organ is irritated. Our bodies are wierd like that... Since you don't have insurance and it is pretty painful for you right now, maybe a visit to a chiropractor is in order. They will be able to tell you whether it is muscular or bony in nature with pretty relative ease. Chiropractors don't usually cost an arm and a leg and hey, let's face it, if you find out it is muscular or bony in nature, they will be able to address it immediately. Seems to be the cheapest way around this, given you won't have insurance for a time. You'll know quickly whether their manipulation provides you relief. Then again, if you don't get any relief from them, you will have to make the decision whether to bite the bullet and see a medical doctor (who will then, of course, order scads of expensive tests probably). Best of luck to you!
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Landi
Member
07-29-2002
| Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 8:21 pm
that was the pain that i had before i had my gallbladder removed! GO TO A DOCTOR/ER! i thought it was back pain and it wasn't! and i went to a chiropractor and it helped for the pain in the back, but it just wouldn't go away. i'm still dealing with the problems for me waiting too long.
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Justavice
Member
11-22-2005
| Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 10:40 pm
Thanks for the replies! My insurance kicks in less than two weeks from now, so I am going to try and rest and see if it gets better. My weekend is Wed-Thur so I'm just going to rest and stop messing with it. Hukdon- that explanation makes sense. I kind of figured that the front pain was due to me trying to compensate for the back pain and overall, I just got everything out of whack. It's weird though. My back feels like muscle pain and the part of my rib cage close to my shoulder feels like bone pain- much sharper and tender to the touch. But the back pain came first. Landi- I think this pain is too high and close to the shoulder to be my gall bladder. (Not that I know where my gall bladder is, but it just seems way to high to be related to an internal organ). Was the pain you felt really high up? Fortunately, I am getting a chest x-ray at the hospital for work on Friday (they are paying for it) so I will ask around when I'm there to see if it seems urgent (maybe see if they can 'throw in' an x-ray that includes the upper part of my chest) or just the beginnings of "old age". Sigh. I figured I'd be much older than 31 before my body started betraying me like this... Thanks again for the help! TVCH always has good advice.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 3:58 am
That lousy old gallbladder can cause pain in all sorts of strange ways, so you never know. Referred pain isn't the same as pain caused by compensating with a different posture, for example, walking differently when one knee hurts. Referred pain is more likely associated with the nerve distribution. When we injure discs in our back, pain can be felt in the front even though there is nothing really wrong in the front. Hope that isn't more confusing! Best of luck with your x-ray on Friday. I sort of doubt that they'll just throw in one that covers the upper part where you're having your pain. That would be too easy, huh?
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Ginger1218
Member
08-31-2001
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 4:32 am
Landi, I was just going to say Gall bladder. If you start to feel nauseous, and if the pain gets worse, get to an Emergency room quickly. My mother had pains in all the areas you describe, so just be careful.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 6:49 am
I never had any pain in the back with my gall bladder so everyone must be different. My pain was all in the front and for years I thought I had ulcers. It wasn't until one night I woke up in severe pain thinking I was having a heart attack. Rushed to the ER and found out my gall bladder was ready to rupture. Had to have it removed immediately. But I'd had gall stones for many years and never knew it. My gall bladder was full of them.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 3:57 pm
as just an ordinary joe asking a friend....I would like to know if anything happened before this started. A fall? a bad sneeze? Lifting something up on a high shelf? dizzy spells? okay, this is not medical advice. I like to do a disclaimer as often I am talking aobut myself or people I know or what I've been told....and people think i am trying to pretend to be a doctor or something. I, myself, get severe pain radiating from my back, usually shoulderblade area, right thru to my front ribs/ sternum. Feels kinda like a spear is thru me each time I try to take a deep breath. But I know what I've done to cause it. Chest pain is chest pain.....regardless of age. If you cannot figure out WHY something would hurt so bad, it is best to see a doctor toot sweet. a sneeze can pinch nerves between ribs or in the back somewhere....can be very painful. i dont want to scare anyone, but rarely it can be heart related...or a blood clot in the lungs which is causing the nonspecific pain. If you KNOW it is from an external muscle because you 'did something', you could probably try and ride it out....I do that and maybe a week or so later the spasm relaxes. However, unrelenting serious pain is something that really shouldnt be ignored. I've seen people in their 30s with a heart attack...and stroke. and they had almost no pain, just felt kinda weird. I often worry that I am going to misread my own body one day. I have every symptom of stroke....all the time!! LOL Oh well.
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Justavice
Member
11-22-2005
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 4:13 pm
Thanks again everyone, and Sunshyne, thanks for stopping by. There really isn't anything I can think of that preceded this. I woke up about 4 or 5 days ago feeling like I slept on my back funny, kind of like a cramp that just needed to work itself out. Only it never did. It stuck around and hasn't really gotten worse, I've just been more sensitive to all the areas it is impacting. And it's not going away. The back is a little better today, but if I touch the front, it still hurts. I'm hoping some rest and being more aware of my posture and how I sleep will let it heal itself. But I do know that if I get any more weird symptoms, I'll eat the cost of an urgent care visit and go to the dr. But I guarantee, if it still hurts even a little by the time my insurance is effective, I will be the first one at the doctor that morning. I have some other health issues that could possibly be a source of the problem, so I don't want to mess around too much. (Osteopenia, osteoporosis in the spine, long EDO history, etc.) Thanks again and I'll post if there is an interesting outcome!
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:03 pm
Boy, I'm sure sorry to hear all the physical problems in here. Justavice, I hope your chest pain works itself out with a bit of rest. And I sincerely hope everyone stops itching for good, that would drive me insane. I rarely come in here because I'm prolly the healthiest 45-year-old I know, I've never been to the hospital, never had broken bones or stitches, never had health issues. Nothin. I have no advice to give unless they are issues I've dealt with for my parents or Colossus. Well, today for the first time in my life I found myself in an emergency room. Something in my brain frazzed while I was out shopping and I lost vision in my left eye and almost blacked out (no I wasn't in Walmart, so it wasn't the predictable Walmart ministroke that I have any time I walk in there). This went on for a couple of minutes, and when the vision in my left eye started returning it was only to the top left half of my eye. When my eye was in blackout, it was actually white - like a white curtain or cloud covered my eye all at once and then started dropped away from the top. At one point there was a clear line through the center of my eye, the bottom was clouded and the top was clear. I told Colossus a little bit later that I wanted to go to my doctor (unprecedented) and when I told him why, he piled me in his car and drove me to the emergency center of the nearest hospital. They were certainly johnnie-on-the-spot, I was immediately given physical tests for signs of stroke in triage and saw a doctor very, very shortly thereafter. Blood tests and cat scan later, I appear not to be having any immediate issues. Doc says he thinks I'm having migraine issues (I have had a headache for three days with occasional black spots in my eyes, but it hasn't been severe just a nag. I haven't had anything that resembles a migraine since the '80's I don't think.) Appointment with neurologist on Tuesday for much more extensive testing. I guess I'm here just to gripe. I'm foggy and not focused. There was a young man in emergency, maybe a teenager, who was in severe distress when they wheeled me by his room. Gasping for breath, eyes open but unfocused. I felt guilty for using emergency room time, he actually appeared near death and he was completely alone. It has bothered me ever since. Please pray for him.
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:10 pm
Goddess ... has your vision come back without any spots or blackouts? It sounds like either a migraine or possibly a detached retina. I'm sorry you had to go to emergency ... it's a scary but you did the right thing. Prays to the teenager that he recovers fully.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:26 pm
GAL, 7 years ago my husband (45 at the time) had what we thought was a stroke. After much testing, we found it was a rare form of migraine called Neurological Deficit Migraine. you might ask your doc about that. good luck. i hope you find answers. it took about 6 months of trial and error medicine to find the right combination of meds so he no longer had any symptoms.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:45 pm
Vacanick, yes my vision is back without any spots or blackouts, but my left eye still feels weird. Almost like there's pressure on it or something, but without pain. Texannie, I'll be sure to ask the neurologist about that on Tuesday. PS I just made Colossus go to Walmart by himself, I didn't want to risk another mini-stroke on top of everything else that happened today LOL.
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:50 pm
I'm glad your vision is back but the pressure is of concern. Did your emergency room doctor mention maybe seeing an opthalomogist? It might not be a bad idea just to cover all the bases.
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Grannyg
Member
05-28-2002
| Friday, July 27, 2007 - 1:13 pm
Gal, I'm surprised our man did insist that they cure you right on the spot. How did they get him to wait until Tuesday? I sure hope nothing is amiss and that you get back on your feet and in correct order really super fast. No more trips to Walmart for you, girlie!! I love you and I think the cure for you is a trip to Memphis. Pronto!! Tell my sweetie I said so.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, July 27, 2007 - 1:13 pm
No, Vacanick, he didn't but I wasn't really cognizant of the pressure at the time. I'll talk to the neurologist about it on Tuesday, though. ETA: Granny, I've been carrying on to Colossus about how we have to get out of here just for a few days. Something within driving distance. Nashville might just be the ticket!! I'll check with him and let you know.
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Friday, July 27, 2007 - 1:17 pm
I'm glad your going to your neurologist so soon. Feel better! :o)
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Friday, July 27, 2007 - 1:32 pm
Goddess, I had something similar...both eyes, my eyesight went all wavey and I could see lines of bright lights seeping in...went on for what seemed like 10-15 minutes. I couldn't see & I was freaking out pretty good. Went to eye doc and did an hour of testing and he said everythings fine...was just a migraine. A migraine?? I actually didn't believe him, but never found another cause so maybe...
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, July 27, 2007 - 1:41 pm
Good luck at the neurologist, G. I have suffered from migraines for 35 years, and have only had a similar visual event like that maybe 4 times. Lost the entire lower half of my vision, like I was trying to look over a black wall (but couldn't). I was taken by my coworkers the first time right to an opthamologist and he took one look in my eye with the light and told me I was having a migraine. I told him, "but I don't have a headache." He said, "oh you will...you will..." I did, lol. My normal migraines usually start out with me smelling burning wires. Lately, I've had the crazy mid-vision waviness that makes reading absolutely impossible, and no smells of burning wires. As soon as I notice either thing now, I'm all over my migraine meds! Since you're new to this particular kind of visual problem, going to the neurologist is probably the right thing to do. I hope it all turns out well for you!
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Friday, July 27, 2007 - 1:52 pm
Huk .. you actually got a particular smell when your migraine was coming on? Wow .. I've never heard of that, amazing! I'm glad your taking medication. My mother had migraines. We thought it had to do with her high blood pressure. Now she's gone and I can't ask her any questions.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, July 27, 2007 - 2:09 pm
I'm very surprised to hear your differing stories of migraines. My experience with migraines has been tickling and pain in the back of the neck about a half hour before the attack. My aunt has these symptoms and she calls her chiro immediately before the headache sets in, and he is able to get ahead of the situation before it gets out of hand.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Friday, July 27, 2007 - 2:09 pm
Gal, I hope you're feeling better! I have at least one migraine a month with very little or no pain but with the vision probs. Not fun at all. Lots of prayers for the kid in ER!
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, July 27, 2007 - 2:13 pm
That's interesting, Wargod. I didn't realize there were migraines with no pain with vision problems. Maybe the ER doc knew what he was talking about after all. I guess we'll see.
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