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Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 2:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
Before
Before...?

Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
or maybe this one...
juju desk

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Darren's starting UofP next week. Like Cnd, his company fully supports them and they will pay for a good chunk of it. He'll be doing the online classes.

Several of the people he works with are getting degrees through them and are further along. So far the only real complaint he's heard is that you can't screw around. Can't blow off classes or postpone doing your homework or studying because it moves at a pretty fast pace and if you miss anything, you miss quite a bit. Which was the biggest reason he decided to do the online classes rather than going to the campus, doesn't have to worry about missing a class since he'll be able to do it anytime.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

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Babyruth...no, no way those are the before pics. have you seen that photo of juju in that black dress?

talk about legs! i even offered her my life savings to give me half her legs. no, no way. she's just so, so.......selfish. i only asked for half! pfffft!

Max
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08-12-2000

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 10:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
I took some classes with Univ. of Phoenix when I had my high-tech job. Company paid for it. It was a lot of what I would call busy-work. The profs I had were more concerned that papers submitted were in ABA format than whether or not they contained any good content. Assignments were done on a team basis and it often occurred that one or two members of the team did most, if not all, of the work, but everyone received the same marks.

I was team leader on a project and the prof said he didn't get our paper on time. I promptly forwarded him a copy of the original email so he could see that it WAS sent. He had made a big deal at the start of class about how much care he took in grading papers. We got our grade back within 10 minutes of him receiving my forwarded email. no comments on content at all, just a couple of formatting comments.

I spent a lot of years climbing the corporate ladder to middle-management level. I never, ever saw anyone ask for a paper or report to be submitted in ABA format. Keep in mind that I was taking management courses with UofP. If I had been studying something for an academic field, I might be able to accept their focus on ABA format, but in this day of PowerPoint presentations and email, I really don't think there's much call for it in most businesses.

Anyway, I thought it was an awful lot of money for very little substance.

Some high tech employers are changing their policies on UofP. I think that Intel stopped considering them a valid degree, but I'm not positive.

However, as long as the employer is paying the bill and accepts the degree, then go for it. Otherwise, I'd say buyer beware. :-)

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

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Okay, y'all have "hounded" me into the before pictures.

Jujubefore



Grooch
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06-16-2006

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ROFLMAO!

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

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Juju, we always knew you were a star! Look at those Hollywood glasses!

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

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max, what is ABA format? never heard of it. i write technical and formal papers all the time for work. i write policy and operating procedures as well as letters and memoranda. i do presentations to the Commission which are televised.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

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Dearie, I think she meant APA. I have to write in that format at school. You can google APA Style. It's a form of punctuation and grammar. It's a pain, IMO!

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

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never heard of APA either, but will look it up.

Mack
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07-23-2002

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Max - Interesting comment on UofP. I thought the trend was toward them but maybe not. We just had a case where one of our professionals, using the title of "doctor" with supposedly a PhD in Business actually bought it on-line from a "university". It wasn't UofP. He got away with it for a number of years but we found out it cost him $249.95 and he waited a whole week to get his diploma.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

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Oh fine, all those before pics of Juju are cuter than the pic after she met me. I see no one is trying to help me out here! LOL!

Grooch
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06-16-2006

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Not true, Kar.

In the after picture, she has aubergine ears, instead of pink ones. That is a major plus! :-)

Max
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08-12-2000

Friday, September 21, 2007 - 8:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
AcK! Yep, I meant APA format. That's what I get for writing late at night! LOL

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

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APA sucks Max...I'm sorry you have to use it...I only have used it once...I was horrible at it...

GOOD LUCK!!

Spygirl
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04-23-2001

Friday, September 21, 2007 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
How strange that you would have been in a business related degree and be required to write in APA Style - a format used almost exclusively in the social sciences.

To be fair, it should be required in all social sciences courses offered at any university because it is the language of that field. I spend boo-coos of time editing for correct APA formatting because it protects the writer from plagiarism, protects published works from being plagiarized, lends credibility to the writer, and makes it much easier to access the content of the paper. If all 30-something papers are formatted using the same guidelines, then as the instructor, I am not having to sort through 30 different ways of citing sources, organizing sections, and structuring tables. I can focus on what they actually wrote!


Beckie03
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07-05-2007

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Spy...I actually I am a history major and I have to use Chicago style not APA...

Escapee
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06-15-2004

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I don't want to get a degree that's going to be discredited.

Max
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08-12-2000

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The Wikipedia entry on University of Phoenix has more detail about the acceptance of their degrees.

What I recalled about Intel is correct. They no longer reimburse for UofP education or recognize degrees from their. Their reasoning is that it's not accredited by Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business (AACSB) and they would prefer that their employees seek education from institutions with a better focus on business, especially engineering. There are links on the Wiki to articles about that.

Much of the information in the "Criticisms" section of the Wiki is stuff I agree with, based on my experience.

With all that said, I still think that if an employer is willing to pay for and accept a degree from UofP and agrees that such a degree will help advance you in their firm, AND you plan to remain in the firm for a long time, then go for it. Really in that situation, you've got nothing to lose and everything to gain.

However, if you're looking at UofP as a means to seek better opportunities in OTHER companies, then I would say to proceed with caution.

:-)

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

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I'm not going to UofP, but I do know people who are going there. I'm in the social sciences, so that makes sense.

Spygirl
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04-23-2001

Friday, September 21, 2007 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
Beckie, that makes sense that you wouldn't have to use APA if you are a history major. I was actually referring to Max's post, though. :-)

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Friday, September 21, 2007 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
Yeah I know...I just know that we are categorized as a "social science" but we don't use APA...

I know many psych majors who always use APA though...

Escapee
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06-15-2004

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This is kinda an intersting site.

http://www.earnmydegree.com/

My plan is an AS in Business Administration/Management

Then my MBA in Marketing

I might even get my teaching credentials to teach business in school. My business class was my favorite.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Friday, September 21, 2007 - 5:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
I've had to use APA a few times, but thankfully Language Arts uses MLA almost exclusively. I'm teaching my college bound seniors both styles, however -- not "perfectly" but at least so they know basics of citing and know how to use the online help sites available.

Wouldn't even consider UofP after seeing their prices a few years ago! EGADS!