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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 5:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Yeah, I meant dye (actually, contrast media for the contrast MRI). Easier to just say DYE (not DIE).

Thanks Sea. And I totally get it, Ginger. I'm just getting tired of living with pain. Sometimes I can kinda ignore it, but sometimes it refuses to be ignored. Bad pain! Go away! And DON'T come again!

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 6:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
(((((Everyone in pain)))))

Costa, Sea, Vinnie has TWO tears in his rotator cuff on his right arm (happened mid February and he's in constant pain.) Also tore the muscle in his left arm about 6 years ago and that never totally healed, so its frustrating that his bad arm (left) is now his better arm. And his good arm, (right) is now his worse arm!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 7:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Ack! That would suck having both arms messed up. At least I'm a rightie, and it's my left shoulder. Although I can pull the ambidextrous thing when necessary, but still... OUCH!

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Yah, and he's a rightie. sigh. AND he has arthritis in his hands and they are usually swollen to almost twice their size, especially his right hand...

I also have swollen hand/wrists due to arthritis for the past week...

Never mind middle-age sex... middle-age SUCKS!
Gripe, gripe, gripe. (sorry)

Nancy
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 8:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancy a private message Print Post    
suNSHINE the DR. feels maybe if we build the muscles up around my knee it might help and thus avoid surgery altogether but if it does not help then he'd do the arhtroscope to see what's up..

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 6:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Still not knee pain but...

I've got the contrast MRI scheduled for 6/22. I could go in earlier, but I'm not so sure I want 'em injecting anything into my shoulder the day before I have to fly to my Bay Area office for a three day visit!

Nancy, y'know, there's a hip ligament or muscle or something, the name of which escapes me now. But if there's a problem with it, it can cause knee pain. Basically, it ends up that the knee pain is a symptom, not the cause. And I'm totally brain farting right now and cannot remember the name of it. My father had this problem, and he went to PT to lengthen the thing, and his knee problems were drastically reduced.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Costa - re: your dad's knee pain and cure... WOW!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 6:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Actually, it's only half the story. He did have knee surgery, it didn't resolve the problem, then the hip whatever was identified as the issue. And when they worked on that, the improvement was drastic. He used to limp like crazy, and now only when he's overworked himself or is tired.

Nancy
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08-01-2000

Saturday, June 09, 2007 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancy a private message Print Post    
costa i don't mind you posting 'other' pain in my knee pain thread it's not exclusive that way.. pain sucks period exclamation point.

you know what someone else suggested it could be my hip affecting my knee although i don't have any signs of hip problems--who knows--i'm hopng once i start with p.t. it will help right now i could go scream at the dr. i am in a lot of pain now you fool--grrr

Msbees
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04-13-2005

Monday, June 11, 2007 - 3:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Msbees a private message Print Post    
I have had knee and leg pain for years,. My Dr finally did some petty extensive blood tests and I came out positive for Lupus. Now I guess there are lots of false positives and I don't get to see the specialists till Sept but at least they are now paying attention.

Nancy
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08-01-2000

Monday, June 11, 2007 - 4:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancy a private message Print Post    
msbees good luck!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - 3:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Nancy, I just called my dad. The thing that I couldn't remember is called IT band and it runs from your hip to your knee. And his got shortened somehow, so he went to PT to lengthen it. And his exercises do seem to help. As in, if he doesn't, it does start to bother him. And I guess it's the band that runs under the knee that bothers him, but that's not where it hurts. So I'm not much help! Sorry.

But IT band was name of that thing I couldn't remember!!!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 6:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Iliotibial Band (I had no idea, but googled)

and another bit of info

Information about this common sports injury
What is the iliotibial band?
Iliotibial band syndrome is due to inflammation of the iliotibial band, a thick band of fibrous tissue that runs down the outside of the leg. The iliotibial band begins at the hip and extends to the outer side of the shin bone (tibia) just below the knee joint. The band functions in coordination with several of the thigh muscles to provide stability to the outside of the knee joint.
What is iliotibial band syndrome?
Iliotibial band syndrome (ITBS) occurs when there is irritation to this band of fibrous tissue. The irritation usually occurs over the outside of the knee joint, at the lateral epicondyle--the end of the femur (thigh) bone. The iliotibial band crosses bone and muscle at this point; between these structures is a bursa which should facilitate a smooth gliding motion.



However, when inflamed, the iliotibial band does not glide easily, and pain associated with movement is the result.
What are the symptoms of iliotibial band syndrome?
As stated previously, the function of the iliotibial band is both to provide stability to the knee and to assist in flexion of the knee joint. When irritated, movement of the knee joint becomes painful. Usually the pain worsens with continued movement, and resolves with rest.

Nancy, the above is the beginning of an article at

http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/sportsmedicine/a/itbs.htm but if you just google IT Band you can get lots of info, also lots of sponsored links trying to sell you stuff.

Good call, Costa!!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 8:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
No problem. I do know that the IT band is one of the most misdiagnosed (initially) problems, since it's basically a "referral" pain. People think it's problems with their knees, and eventually find out that a shortened IT band (or other issue) is the problem. Weird, huh?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
and frustrating for someone with that problem.

Nancy
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - 3:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancy a private message Print Post    
thanks it sounds somewhat like my problem! i have to call the pt place back tomorrow to sched my first appt--wish me luck!

Nancy
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08-01-2000

Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancy a private message Print Post    
costa how are you feeling how is your shoulder

i START MY PT ON monday so will let you know how that goes--I also received my cd of my xrays and mri--can't tell what it is i am supposed to see LOL but i can tell its a knee and not an arm or head :-) I will me giving it and my records to my brother so he can pull a favor from a co-worker(my bro works in a hospital) and deprnding on that will determine next steps(second opinion probably)

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 12:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
yep strengthening the muscles will give the knee more support. If your pain is based on something 'sliding around' then you should get some relief.

As for HIP being the cause, I did a number of long posts at the beginning of this thread as I have found that often it IS the hip / hip socket which causes the knee pain.

mind you, a good physio will get you to do the whole area....low back, hips and knees.

good luck!

Nancy
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08-01-2000

Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 5:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancy a private message Print Post    
THANKS sunshine--iknew someone on here had mentioned it might be my hip--I am hoping whatever it is the p.t. will help--its 8.5 months now and while I can live with it now It is starting to get worse again..If I can avoid surgery with the p.t. I'm all for that i've never had surgery--(other than day surgery for a cyst) and the only time i've ever been in a hospital was at age 12 for a broken leg. so overall i'm very very healthy :-)

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 7:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
My shoulder's not been as painful lately, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks for asking, Nancy! I'm traveling next week though, so figure I'll be in a bit of pain when I go in for my MRI.

And good luck with your PT. I hope it helps, or at the least provides SOME relief! I totally get the "if I can avoid surgery" thing... it's one reason I'd postponed getting an MRI for so long. If I do need surgery, I kinda didn't wanna know! :-)

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
i would not agree to ANY surgery on the knee, including arthoscopy UNTIL the hip has been thoroughly checked out by a specialist.

Once the skin is cut and the knee is compromised by the invasive instruments, it will not be the same. (possibly worse)

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
LOL I just went back to check out the beginning of this thread.

January 1st I'd bet money that it isnt your knee at all.

Low back Sacral problems and Hip disorders will show FIRST by pain in the knee.

There can even be swelling AT the knee due directly to the body's attempt to compensate for a physical problem elsewhere.

a one time chiropractor appointment ( or a really good adjusting physiotherapist) may cure the problem if it is a pinched nerve in the hip/back from all the walking you did at Disneyland. OR maybe you slipped something sleeping on a strange bed. Often these changes are insideous and will not bother you much until the body gives you a pain warning.



Nancy
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08-01-2000

Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 5:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancy a private message Print Post    
you want me to pay you know sunshine? lol i'll reserve judgement til after a few pt sessions but if this is indeed my hip i'll kiss you :-) I'm just so frustrated that my orthopedic dr. took 6 months to decide to send me to one.. maybe if i wear a different type of person who was more vocal he would have done it sooner :-)

Nancy
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08-01-2000

Monday, June 18, 2007 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancy a private message Print Post    
i HAD MY FIRST p.t. session today--I learned more from her than i did from the ortho. doctor!

I have a problem with my knee cap--arthritis--and the 'unknown' abnormality finding in my joint--possibly a tear and/or scar tissue--my dr. wants me to have ultrasound(heat) applied to my knee 2 x a wek along with the exercises to stregthen stuff--to see if it will get me to a point where i can live with it--w/o needed surgery to take care of it..

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, June 18, 2007 - 6:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
OOOOH!!! I loved ultrasound when I had it on my neck! So relaxing!

Glad you had a good session and that you learned lots! Good luck with the PT... I hope it does get you to the point where there is NO pain (not the "live with it" kind!) and so NO surgery!!!