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Wargod
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07-16-2001

Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 3:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Oh my gosh, Costa, people are weird about guide dogs! We have an organization out here that trains them so it's not unusual to see someone out and about with a guide dog. The dog wears a vest that clearly explains they are training and ask that you not approach them unless their trainer invites you to. It never ceases to amaze me the people who walk right up to the dog and reach out to pet them! The silly thing about it is that most of the trainers if they see someone looking at the dog curiously, they will stop and talk to them and invite them to pet the dog. We've ran into a few of them who have always been very patient with the kids and explained how the dogs were learning how to do a job and what they'd be doing when they were done training, and yes they may pet them now.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 4:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
LOL. Even a trainer (who ought to know better!) walked up to us one day and asked if she could pet the dog AS SHE WAS REACHING OUT TO PET THE DOG!!!!! We were really good about educating people, how when he's on harness he's really working. But that if we stopped and let him lay down for a bit, then they could pet him.

I mean, if you see a man in dark glasses walking towards you. Clutching the elbow of a woman to his right, and holding the harness of a dog on his left, what are you going to do? Please don't walk right into the middle of them and try to separate them! Often we'd walk with me guiding, so Pearson would be on leash. But still... dark glasses, clutching the arm/elbow/shoulder of a woman who is talking thru the walking (careful, there's a dip here, duck down low branches, scootch to the left to pass these people)... don't you THINK maybe the guy can't see?????

(Gotta laugh though... I'm really good at guiding, but one day when we were walking around the fair, I had kinda glanced over my shoulder to look at something and as I looked back forward, the guy in front of us stopped suddenly. And Vic walked right into his back. Now, Vic was a tall guy, and THIS guy he walked into? Vic said it was like walking into the side of a barn! The guy was real cool about it and I was ever so apologetic to both!)

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Even if there aren't the obvious signs of the dark glasses, talking him around obstacles, dog on harnesss.....I'd say its extraordinarily rude to bust your way in between anyone who is arm-in-arm walking down the street!

It reminds me of when we went to Sea World several years ago. We had Mom in a wheelchair, and I'd wheel her up to the edge of an exhibit, touching the footrests of her wheelchair up against the barrier, so she was right in front of the crowd (I always waited for an opening of course, never just barged her right up front). Anyway, I don't know how many times people would actually try to climb over the wheelchair to get in front of her, tripping over the footrests in the process, and then turn around and glare at her cause her footrests were tripping them.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 8:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Oh yeah. The glares from people! I used to tell Vic it was a good thing he couldn't see!

I can't believe people would try to climb OVER a wheelchair? Seriously!

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 9:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
I gotta laugh, My cousin - born blind.. Is probably more capable than me.. We used to ride the bus system in down town LA and he would be telling the girls they were beautifull, or really loved there outfit.. the whole time they were baffled.. were'nt sure if he was for real or not....Hes the funniest guy I know and smart as a whip...

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Oh they will Costa. My great aunt for several years used a walker (still does at home, but now going out she's in a wheelchair.) She also had an oxygen tank and whenever one of us would take her out, she'd walk in front with her walker and have her hose which is connected to the oxygen tank with one of us behind her pushing the tank. People were always trying to walk between us and her, tripping or stepping over the hose that was attached to her head! I hate to admit it but I had no problem running into those people with the oxygen tank. At this point they're trying to trip the poor woman who was in her early 70's and could barely walk or trying to rip her head off by catching the hose to the tank.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
<evil grin> LOL Wargod! I know exactly what you mean. There were times when I'd refuse to separate from Vic, and let the idiots trip trying to disentangle from the dog, the blind man, and me! Hehehe...

Chewpito, definitely! Vic wasn't born blind, but had been blind for 13 years. I was constantly amazed at how perceptive he was. And his memory! The first time he came over to my house, it didn't take him long to figure out "the lay of the land" so to speak. And my place isn't exactly laid out in a perfect square (there's a bit of a jig jog to get from the living room to the bathroom). As long as I didn't move furniture around, he was great. But what a memory! I'd always be amazed at how he walked around his house -- without his stick -- just like a sighted person would. No hesitation at all.

Of course, it didn't take me long to remember to tell him when I walked outta the room (apparently, I'm pretty quiet!), or to tap fingers on something as I walked back in, so I wouldn't startle him suddenly appearing at his side!

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 11:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Heh, honestly I'm usually a very polite person and wouldn't think of doing something like that. But in a situation like that, it's not only dumb to step between someone who's helping someone else in some way, but dangerous as well. A fall for an elderly person or a blind person isn't the same as the rest of us where we hop right back up, brush ourselves off and pretend it didn't happen, they could get seriously hurt. And it wasn't the people who were just spacing out and walked into the hose that bugged me (cuz I spend half my time with my head in the clouds, lol,) but those who would actually lift a foot to step over it!

Urgrace
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08-19-2000

Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Urgrace a private message Print Post    
When we were leaving the hospital and walking through the lobby a woman who works there walked right in front of Kit's wheelchair. I almost ran into her (because I was pushing), and then she looked at me. I said, "Did you know it's harder to stop a moving vehicle than it is to wait for it to pass? You could have been run over!" Then she apologized.

This happens to us all the time! I've never spoken up before, but after a while you just want to give them their 'sign'. What is wrong with people, anyway?

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
People really are something, aren't they? Another time, Mom and I were boarding a plane, and I got in and scooted over to the window seat, then Mom sat down and proceeded to scoot (with my help) over into the middle seat. She'd barely started to scoot when another woman started to try and climb over her into the middle seat (that was assigned to Mom anyway). She did see Mom start to scoot and backed off and finally waited, then sat down in the aisle seat. I was so shocked I didn't say anything. But I should have. Oh well. The heck of it was, we were in pre-boarding, when the folks who need a little extra time getting to their seat go first. What infirmity that woman had that qualified her for pre-boarding is beyond me! She was the first to spring up out of her seat and rush off the plane when we landed too.

The TAR that aired not long after was the one where they had to go through DIA on the way to the finish line. I remember watching TAR and trying to figure out about when they would have been going through DIA, and if we would have been there at the same time. But I think I remember it wouldn't have worked out time wise. Wouldn't that have been a hoot if she was a TAR contestant? Then I might have bought it that it was important to get off the plane as fast as possible. Of course, that doesn't explain why she had to sit down as fast as possible. LOL. And of course, she was alone, she had no packs (in fact, she had nothing at all with her), and no cameras. So, doubtful on all accounts she was a TAR contestant. Probably just a rude inconsiderate fool.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 4:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Just as a side note... after I got hit by a car (remember? pedestrian vs car, I was the pedestrian, and I lost?), I had to travel quite a bit. And I pre-boarded almost every flight because I wanted the extra time to get down the jetway and down the aisle to my seat without getting jostled. I was in a lot of pain, and did NOT want anyone to bump against my shoulder. The airlines were quite cooperative in letting me pre-board.

So, along with those who don't look disabled who have handicapped placards, there are those who don't look disabled who pre-board.

Just a thought.

I really hated to travel then, too. I'd explain to my seat mates that I could NOT be jostled against, and to please be careful about taking up space in my "seat" and oh no! Most of them were clueless. I'd finally figured out that if I asked for four pillows and used the pillows to "wall off" my seat, then they'd leave me alone. People!

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 5:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
I fully understand how someone may not look disabled, and of course I'd never judge anyone in that way. But this girl moved quite spryly. There was nothing to indicate any part of her body needed any TLC, from the way she contorted herself to try and climb over Mom, to the way she sprung out of her seat to sprint off the plane and beat everyone else off.

A little OT....you reminded me of when I broke my collar bone in a car accident. When I returned to work, I wanted to folks to know about the injury so they wouldn't be jostling my shoulder, but I sure didn't want to tell the story of my accident 150 times either. So I came up with an evil plan....During my first hour at work, I actively sought out the company gossip and told her about the accident/broken collar bone.
It worked brilliantly. Within a couple of hours, people were coming up to me with "oh, I heard about your accident....."

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 6:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Damn! I shoulda thought of that when I got hit by a car! I didn't wanna tell anyone, so I didn't. But people noticed that I was out and was hurt, and yeah, I hadda tell the damn story 150 times! And then put up with the shock and dismay of folks when they found out. Yeesh.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Law enforcement agents carrying guns on board the plane are REQUIRED to preboard.

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 11:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Well, if that lady was packing, I guess its a good thing I didn't confront her for trying to climb over my Mom!

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 4:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
Don't know about other places but I HATE having to use the electric handicap carts at Wal-Mart. They must have some aura around them, that I don't see, that makes them invisible. Not only do I have to wait twice as long because no one moves out of my path, several times per trip I have to let off the "gas" before I run into someone who has deliberatly stepped in front of me! I swear, if you ever see the headline "Handicapped patron mows down customers", it's me!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 5:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Cheri, if someone has deliberately stepped in front of you, I think they are fair game. Two points for a direct hit, 10 points if they fall on their arse! :-)

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 4:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
ROFL!!

Wow, a game like that might make a trip to Wally World enjoyable. I could name it Ijiot Bowling!

Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 4:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
ROFL Cheri. At least you deserve good credit points for trying to avoid them. My dad uses one when we are at Walmart and I swear he aims for people.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Biloxibelle's dad must be at every Wal-Mart I go to!

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
Biloxibelle, thanks. Hey, maybe your Dad just figures he'll get them before they get him!

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 7:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
I am so p*i*s*s*e*d right now I can barely type. We applied for a new trailer yesterday, well, a repo anyway, and had someone come look at our current trailer, we were going to give it to him for a needy family.

We found out just now our landlords put a $5000 lien on our trailer, I am assuming for back rent, which is exactly $300, and future rent, which is also $300. I am so **********!!!!! How can they do that? How can they do that without us knowing? The real pisser is that since we have this lien, we can't buy the new trailer now because they don't allow that. Oh God I am so angry!

Any lawyers out there that can help me? Can I counter-sue them for the cost of the septic tank and electrical box, which WE paid for. Can I sue them for harrassment, because the stress from this crap contributed to a need for a hospitalization for depression?

I am so mad! Looks like the F*N* crooks are gonna win again.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
is it a mechanic's lien? unfortunately it can be done by almost anyone and without notice. they do have to prove the dollar amount.
usually if you can show the debt is paid at closing the lien will be released.

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 8:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
No, it's a lien on a mobile home, only damage is a bare spot in the yard where a pool was- that we bought FROM THEM! If it's lawyer's cost, the lawyer was only necessary because they did not allow us to talk to them. My hubby just drove by them in the car. J started walking up to the car so Bob asked him "What's the $5000 for?'. S, J's wife yelled I'm calling 911! (for harrassment) They took pictures of him as he drove by. They videotaped us yesterday as we drove home and led our guest into the house.

They are just being harassing. They are doing everything they can to provoke a response so they can charge us with harrassment. They've already done that once, over a stupid gate. Their lawyer had it dismissed.

I suppose we'll have to hire our own lawyer and battle it out and that ticks me off! Why should I lose money due to their greediness? Their ultimate goal is getting this trailer, they've tried to cheat us out of it once already. It may come down to giving it to them to reduce costs but by dang they won't get it in good condition if that happens!

I guess it'll be the war of the rednecks- watch for me on Judge Judy!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 5:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
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Good luck, Cheri, with the war of the rednecks!!