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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 12:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I'd check the actual law in your town. Where I have lived we had the right to not have it be TOO loud at any time. Of course my neighbors didn't turn it off at such an early hour! Luckily that is really uncommone here.

My summer gripe is one neighbor especially who barbeques often in the summer and apparently uses a huge amount of toxic smelling lighter fluid on her charcoal and it just creates a stench. I don't have A/C and have to quickly close my slider that faces out back, which makes life harder inside my condo. Bleh! Hopefully this woman won't repeat her usual pattern.. seems like each summer she gets a new boyfriend who moves in and then they barbeque. I know she's been engaged at least three times and then backed out since they have lived there.

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I remember way back when I was still in school, the last year when I applied for a small student loan and they wanted to consider my parents' income.. I just came unglued.. I had been married for 18 months at that point and hadn't taken one penny from my parents since the day I got married. I got the loan and a work-study position.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 1:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
We've been rather lucky with the noise around here. Once a month or so the next door neighbors invite a bunch of friends over and crank up the music, but their guests are gone by 8 or 9 at night. It's more funny than annoying listening to the wide range of genres they're playing.

We did have new neighbors move in across the street not quite a year ago. They have two teenagers and both parents work night shifts. Right after the kids went back to school after winter break, both of them started to have serious sleep problems. Took em forever to go to sleep, then they'd be up and down til about midnight. That went on about two weeks before one night around 11 or 12 I took out trash and heard the music that was loud enough to make out the song and lyrics. Once the kid was aware we could hear it here, he started to turn it down after 9pm. Even though it'd been going on a couple weeks, no one else had talked to them about it bugging em.

My gripe tonight...earlier, me and Kota went to the store. Most of the stores around town have been cracking down on the people sitting in front of the stores selling things, giving away pets, or asking folks to sign petitions. They now walk around the parking lots! Me and Kota were walking across (we always park way out) and chatting about something that'd happened earlier when this guy darts between a couple cars and pops up in front of us asking if I wanted to buy some cheap trinket or other. Scared the crud out of me, I was already holding her hand so I just gave her a pull and started walking quicker. This has been going on for awhile, but I've never had one of them pop out between cars like that. When I asked inside about who to complain to, I was told I could flag down the parking lot security guy. Apparently they chase them out of the parking lot when they see them but they just go around the block, wait til security is at the other end and then come right back and wait between cars. I know most are just trying to raise money, collect signatures, and earn a living but dang, quit scaring folks!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 3:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
yeah, neighborly consideration. That is what most normal, nondrinking people would do I'd bet. If someone brought up that the music was a little loud, they'd turn it down.....because it is easy to not realize how loud it is and how far the noise is travelling. instead the guy gave me attitude LOL oh well, 45 going on 25 I guess. Second childhood LOL

its strange. I can take 'bass', you know that rhythmic Boom Boom Boom that you will hear when someone is having a houseparty, which is rare around here. Mostly retired folks and young families with small children dont usually Party every week like my new-ish neighbors.

what drives me wacky about really loud music is when you can hear every word of the Song OVER your tv set. it really is too much and I think I should ahve been more assertive and said something right away last summer. I'm just too easy going and dislike confrontation of any sort.

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yes seamonkey, I am going to check for any Noise bylaws. I am just outside of the city limits and sometimes new people think that the laws dont apply up here....like no burning backyard fires and garbage after april 1st.

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wargod that would have given me a heart attack. We used to have that same problem at the local grocery store. I always felt really vunerable juggling keys and purse and groceries at the car with someone trying to coherse me to buy something/ donate $$.

And I hated seeing pets being flogged off OR being used to Beg for money. One guy had a kitten whos eyes barely were open. He sat at the door and was mooching for money to Supposedly buy 'kitten milk' for the tiny critter. He'd Dangle the animal at people as they tried to enter the store.

When I came out I gave him MILK not money and asked him where he got a kitten so young, there was no way it could be away from its mother so soon. He mumbled something about finding it in a dumpster. I said it was too bad because the kitten, at that point, was so weak I said I thought it was going to die.

The man got the most horrified look on his face, tucked the kitten into his pocket and left immediately peddling on his bike.

I truly hope he gave the kitten back to the mother cat.

anyways, Just saying I dont like being accosted either .

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 5:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
I'd blast the bag pipe music. :-)

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 5:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
{I wouldn't stoop to their level...}

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
As frustrated as you are Sun, I'm not sure that blasting music back at them will be effective. It kind of ruins your argument for quiet, you're sinking to their level, you may end up bothering your other neighbors and I'm not sure that your problem neighbors will even care if you blast music at them.

I don't know what to suggest.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 8:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Sunshyne, my mom had that problem with a next door neighbour. We lived in an apartment building and they were only separated from us by the living room wall. I have bad nerves, and I used to go sit in the park and read, as I couldn't take hours of blasting music. Mom complained bitterly to the landlord and the cops, neither were much help because they stopped by 11pm. So she got smart. And it worked. She turned the vacuum cleaner on and left it on, leaning it against the living room wall. They eventually got the message. :-) Good luck.

Max
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08-12-2000

Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 9:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Sun, in some communities, there are neighborhood mediation programs. If you call your local police department and ask, they can give you information if your community has one. They deal with neighbor nuisance issues on a regular basis, getting both parties together to work out an amicable solution.

Your bully neighbor might not be willing to participate, but it's worth a shot. Mediation programs help resolve issues from barking dogs, to loud music to sharing the cost of replacing crumbling fences and more. They can be very, very effective.

Turning up your music in retaliation could lead to an escalation of hostilities between the two of you and not really resolve anything.

Anyway, just another angle to check. Sometimes there's not much you can do about this kind of thing, though. Best of luck! :-)

Urgrace
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08-19-2000

Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Urgrace a private message Print Post    
Yep, a neighborhood association would be a good idea. It would take a little work, making phone calls or flyers that you distribute to get the neighbors to attend, getting the proper paperwork to have a street gathering or using your own yard, making an agenda to cover any and all neighborhood activities or even street repairs, and get someone from the sheriff department to attend. A couple months of work could result in a lifetime of neighborhood cooperation and association.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 2:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Would it work to talk to loud-mouth's wife when she was not drinking and he was not around? Maybe you could get some "insider" help that way (as long as she's not as obnoxious sober as he was drunk).

I love living smack dab in the middle of 40 acres -- my "close" neighbor is over 100 yards away, and w/a wee baby, they certainly don't play loud music. :-)

Cdbga
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10-04-2004

Monday, June 04, 2007 - 4:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cdbga a private message Print Post    
I can definitely relate to the noisy neighbors situation. My downstairs neighbors have their music incredibly loud right now...which is not at all uncommon. But it seems like it is louder than normal tonight...I usually can't hear it when I'm in the bedroom. But, right now, I'm in the bedroom with my TV on and I can still hear it(and feel the vibration through the walls) ANNOYING.

My gripe for tonight: people who don't follow the county leash laws. I'm very tired of running into unleashed dogs when I'm out walking Whitney. I'm tired enough of walking her as it is, I don't need the added annoyance. And it always seems like its the aggressive or yippy little dogs that people let off leash. Honestly, if you want to let your dog run free, either move somewhere without leash laws or get a place with a fenced in yard.

(I will be SO glad when I close the deal on this house so that I will have my own fenced in yard for Whit AND will be away from these noisy people).

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Monday, June 04, 2007 - 5:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Cdbga, I am so with you on the leash issue!!! My dog *FREAKS* when another dog charges him, even if the intentions are friendly. Totally normal behavior of course because my dog is restrained and feels trapped. And of course because we were in the country (we moved last year), most of the wandering dogs around there were BIG, shepherds and labs. A walk to our mailbox was about a mile each way and there wasn't ONE time that I didn't end up carrying my dog while some barking dog followed until they got bored and left us in peace. Dont count of it getting better though. Even here in a city setting, it's unbelievable how many people hold the leash while the dog trots around them unrestrained.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Monday, June 04, 2007 - 5:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Argh! I went over to my aunt's about an hour ago with her dinner. Got out of the car with pot of chicken soup in hand and the kids only to be damn near run down by two dogs who's owner was walking a bit back holding the leashes. Worst part was that aunt has two dogs who were inside the fenced in yard trying to get out as me, the kids, dinner, and two other dogs were trying to get in! All the while their owner is standing back calling their names like it was doing any good.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 1:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
yeah ....and the owners will Yell "its okay He's friendly" as if that makes a difference after being jumped on and almost knocked over!

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I'm not sure that your problem neighbors will even care if you blast music at them.



they will if I put on a loop of these three Klaus Nomi songs

and Yes I do have his records.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ELknoJC2WEQ

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sTLzQP9J-n8&mode=related&search=

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gFaZyHxQGYQ&mode=related&search=

enjoy....and just imagine it on a loop over and over.

actually Simple Man is one of my alltime Favourite songs. if you dare to listen to the whole song you will find that it will pop back into your head later, without provacation LOL

It has the power to drive you nutz, like that commercial jingle that you cant get out of your head.

Bwahhhh ha ha

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 5:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I still have a disc with various version of the Macarena on it. When my upstairs neighbor decides to blast her music, I put that disc in, and turn on the speakers in my bedroom. They are mounted near the ceiling. Hehehe!!! (Yeah, I'm a "witch!")

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 7:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
You all are reinforcing my resolve to never live in an appartment...good Lord willing.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 2:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Sunshine, I listened to about 1 minute of that first one. That was all I could take. But I like that song by the original singer, Lou Cristie. Lightning Strikes. I think I even had the 45 of it so many years ago.

Cdbga
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10-04-2004

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 4:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cdbga a private message Print Post    
And the unleashed madness continues. I just got in from walking Whitney. We were walking down to the mailbox area so that I could check my mail, when an unleashed dog comes running across the way right up to her. They started growling at each other at about the same time, and the other dogs owner called the dog back, so it ran back. The most infuriating part? Well, let me first say the "owner" was a girl, I'd say no more than 13 or 14 and she was with a smaller child. Probably sent out by her parents to get the mail. When the dog ran back to them, I heard the smaller child, who'd missed the whole thing, say "What happened?" So, here's where I got mad...the answer? "That dog attacked her." Accompanied by both of them giving my Whitney mean looks. Yeah, she's to blame...she's walking along happily and quietly...on a leash a good 15-20 ft from them...their larger unleashed dog runs the 15-20 ft right up to her, they both growl and MY dog is to blame? That made me mad. But, since these were children we were talking about, I didn't engage. It was hard though. I REALLY wanted to just point out to them that my dog was on a leash - as the law dictates, theirs wasn't and THAT was the problem. But, I didn't. I just turned my MP3 player back on, and we continued our walk.

We are pretty much under a month here at the apartment...we close on the house June 28th, I plan to move in ASAP, so I'm just trying to make it through without making any trouble. I may just have to go back to the routine of taking her down to the park every day. I don't think we've ever run into an unleashed dog at either of the two closest parks.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, June 15, 2007 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
My gripe is about people who know they're leaving a job or moving to a different pod and don't clean it out. Grrrrrrrr. I can't stand that! When I left my old pod I boxed up all of my stuff and cleaned everything. The desktop, computer keyboard, mouse, monitor, and phone. That way if someone else is assigned to that pod all they have to do is move in.

Well I get to my new pod and all of the previous person's shit is still here. They retired and left everything. So, of course, I have to find boxes and pack their crap up. Both personal and work related. They left those fugly trolls, magnets, key chains, notes, binders, papers, plasticware, bowls, plates, cd player, walkman, and minitv. And a layer of dust over everything. Grrrrr.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Friday, June 15, 2007 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
Mocha, I agree with you. I would toss everything but the cd player, walkman and minitv. The board might go down at some point and you could use that stuff. lol

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, June 15, 2007 - 10:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Dang, Mocha, you should have a pod sale! People will come, lol. Kudos to you for leaving your old pod clean, that's what I would have done too.

Yoda
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08-11-2005

Friday, June 15, 2007 - 10:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yoda a private message Print Post    
What's a pod?

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, June 15, 2007 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I'm thinking a pod is like a cubicle, work space type of area for one.

Yoda
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08-11-2005

Friday, June 15, 2007 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yoda a private message Print Post    
That's what I was thinking...when I hear pod I think of those storage things you can rent.

Max
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08-12-2000

Friday, June 15, 2007 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
I understand your gripe and may I just say that I'm SO glad I no longer work in a pod/cube/whateveryoucallit. :-)