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Mocha
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08-12-2001

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 4:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Me too. I was totally shocked and apalled. I was hoping my brother could go there for grad school but I don't want him there at all which is sad because my dad got his phd from there. And such a dumb thing to do and I'm surprised there wasn't some kind of riot.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
It's often shocking that our brightest students can be so damned dumb. And how can they reasonably pretend they don't know the significance of something like lynching? And to think that they were warned, too!

i don't think this reflects badly on Johns Hopkins, though. They seem to have been as proactive as possible in dealing with this crap.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 7:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
This really saddens me. And today, of all days, I was reading up on what happened to Emmett Till because I'm reading a short story called I've Got Somebody in Staunton that references him often. This was beyond tasteless.

Urgrace
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08-19-2000

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Urgrace a private message Print Post    
As appalling as this was, I hope you can reconsider Mocha. It would be a shame to let one misguided influential frat boy be the reason you would feel that way, since the school's and the Frat officials obviously find it appalling, too.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, November 03, 2006 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Hopkins targets campus racism
Diversity training, other steps planned
BY SUMATHI REDDY
SUN REPORTER
ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED NOVEMBER 3, 2006

Johns Hopkins University students and faculty members will have more diversity training, and the history of racism will be incorporated into the campus curriculum and workshops, Hopkins President William R. Brody announced yesterday, responding to an outcry over a racially offensive fraternity party.

In a letter to students and members of the faculty and staff, Brody outlined several other steps, including the creation of a university-wide commission to make recommendations to ensure that new equality guidelines are followed. Also, he said, the administration will work for better communication with multicultural groups.

In the letter, Brody said that racism "is still an issue in our university community."

"We have made progress," he wrote, pointing to the formation 10 years ago of the Diversity Leadership Council. "But no one ever believed, even before last weekend's events, that we had done all we should. We all knew that we still had lots of work to do toward making Johns Hopkins the diverse, tolerant, respectful and welcoming community we want it to be."

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"From the statement that we heard from a variety of students on campus, there ... has been for a while a climate and atmosphere of racial insensitivity, prejudice and tension," said Marvin "Doc" Cheatham, president of the NAACP's Baltimore chapter.

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"I think there's a much better understanding, and clearly the students want to work to address issues which extend far beyond any one frat and, frankly, any one multicultural group," Berger said.

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Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, November 03, 2006 - 8:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
But Gracie it's not just this one incident apparently. But should my brother go with the devil we know or the devil we don't know?

Tiernet
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06-07-2004

Friday, November 03, 2006 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tiernet a private message Print Post    
Ok, I may be in for some trouble here but...


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From:
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The announcement followed a Sigma Chi fraternity party Saturday night that was advertised as "Halloween in the Hood."

The party's invitation, which was posted on the Facebook Web site, described Baltimore as "the HIV pit" and encouraged attendees to wear "regional clothing from our locale" such as "bling bling ice ice, grills" and "hoochie hoops."

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I see this as a rebellion against these characteristics that are being forced upon the younger generation. Specifically I point to MTV whose is force feeding this into the mainstream which certain people find annoying and as bad as disco.

Do they take it too far? Yes but I do see a little of what that COULD have been intended purpose of the party which is basically making fun of the bling bling society. Is this racist? Not sure as a lot of younger folks are into this not neccessarily just the the black youth.

Dont get me wrong here, this was definitely taken too far.

The point I am making here is that some of the outlandish characteristics are up for being made fun of.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, November 03, 2006 - 11:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
You were right with your first thought Tiernet.

I don't give a good hoot about the bling bling aspect of the party. I care about the lynching aspect. That is what I have a problem with.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, November 03, 2006 - 2:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I agree Mojo.

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Friday, November 03, 2006 - 2:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Well, this story sure made me rethink my situation and mindset that sometimes I let settle upon me when I think I can't really chase a dream:


He Did What He Had No Business Doing
The Story of Art Tatum


-- By Mike Kramer, Staff Writer, SparkPeople.com


Cheers to a boy who didn’t know any better.

Cheers to a man who didn’t let a little thing like reality stand in his way.

Cheers to a self-taught musician whose creativity and skill is the stuff of legend.

Cheers to Art Tatum, maybe the greatest jazz piano player who ever lived.

Art Tatum was remarkable before he was good. Blind in one eye, partially-sighted in the other, Art idolized Fats Waller like many boys did in the 1920’s. He wanted to play the piano, and he wanted to play like Fats.

That’s where he began. Where he ended up proves what you can do by shedding your self-imposed limits.

Born in Toledo, Ohio, Art stubbornly refused to close his dream off in fantasyland. He taught himself to play using Braille and piano rolls, and listening to the radio and phonograph. He imitated, he copied, he improved.

But here’s the really amazing part – Art didn’t know he was sometimes listening to two people playing. When he practiced, he was learning to play two parts of the same song at once! He had no idea, but he did it anyway. He learned it so well that years later, Oscar Peterson heard Art playing and thought ART was two people. He wasn’t the only one.

Art went on to star in the nightclub circuit that cruised through New York City, Chicago, Cleveland, Los Angeles and national radio. He created his own original and creative style that made great musical heads shake in awe and bow in homage.

Art took great pains to master his craft. He got so good at what he did that, over a two-day session, he cut 69 singles tracks – and only three needed more than one take.

Legends of Art’s skill seem almost plausible. One claimed that classical pianist Vladimir Horowitz was moved to tears upon hearing him play. It was also said that Art could identify the dominant note in a flushing toilet.

Limits – mostly false ones – can defeat us before we even start. Do you feel handicapped in some way? Does your knowledge that "there are two people playing" convince you that it’s not possible to do the same? Could your goals benefit from a little less knowledge and little more naïve faith?

Art learned that the "real world" is exactly where dreams belong. All the proof he needed came on a night when he visited a club where Fats Waller was playing. That’s when Fats – his hero, his idol, his main inspiration – told the crowd, "I just play the piano. But God is in the house tonight."

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, November 03, 2006 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Thx for posting that Hp.

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Friday, November 03, 2006 - 6:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
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Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Monday, November 06, 2006 - 1:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Le Chevalier de Saint-George (1745-1799)

Afro-French Composer, Violinist & Conductor
France's Best Fencer & Colonel of Black Legion


http://chevalierdesaintgeorges.homestead.com/Page1.html

the other day i turned on my local CBC only to see a biography of a great composer from France. The musicians were talking with great admiration of the music and how hard it was to play. Quite complex. then they talked about how St George, the composer was born of a slave woman and how even though he reached extreme high society He was considered 'unmarriagable'.

It was a fascinating show and the music incredible. Funny how so many of us know the great composers.....yet this man of colour is unknown to most of us.

I read his biography above link. It says he even played for Marie Antoinette and the French court. I wonder if that new Movie Antoinette will include this to make it more politically correct. After all, France did make slavery illegal before USA.

Anyway, I am just rambling. thought I'd share this Composer info with anyone here that MAY be interested. Have a good day

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, November 06, 2006 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Thx Sunshyne!

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 9:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Since there seems to be some misconceptions regarding Black Power...

Black Power is a political slogan that embodies the aspirations and drive for empowerment of full self-determination for African people. More generally, the term refers to a conscious choice on the part of blacks to nurture and promote their collective interests, advance their own values, and secure their own well-being and some measure of autonomy, rather than permit others to shape their futures and agendas. The first person to use the term Black Power in its political context was Robert F. Williams, a writer and publisher of the 1950s and 60s. Mukasa Dada (then known as Willie Ricks), an organizer and spokesperson for the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), won the support of thousands of working-class blacks when he shouted "black power" at a time when the focus on racial integration, originally seen by some blacks a strategic choice, had become an end in itself in more moderate circles.

The focus of black power advocates was not integration or any other single strategy. Rather, it was improving the status of black people.

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The movement for Black Power in the U.S. came during the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s. Many members of SNCC, among them Stokely Carmichael, were becoming critical of the nonviolent approach to racism and inequality articulated and practiced by King, the NAACP and other moderates, and rejected desegregation as a primary objective.

SNCC's membership was generally younger and than that of the other Big Five civil rights organizations, and became increasingly more militant and outspoken over time. SNCC also saw racists had no qualms about the use of violence against blacks in the U.S. who would not "stay in their place," and that "accommodationist" civil rights strategies had failed to secure sufficient concessions for blacks. As a result, as the Civil Rights Movement progressed, increasingly radical, more militant voices came to the fore to aggressively challenge white hegemony. Increasing numbers of black youth, particularly, had come to reject the moderate path of cooperation, integration and assimilation of their elders. They rejected the notion of appealing to the public's conscience and religious creeds and took the tack articulated by another black activist more than a century before. Abolitionist Frederick Douglass wrote:

Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. ...Power concedes nothing without demand. It never did and it never will.

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Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
thanks, you should have put that in that other thread, you know they won't read it here ...

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
RIP Ed Bradley
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Mocha
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08-12-2001

Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Well I didn't want to go off topic there...

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I read it here.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
So did I.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
I like this thread and even though I don't post in it, I do read it.

I have learned a lot through the years that this thread has been in existence.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
I'm glad. That's what we hoped and intended when we started it.

Landi
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07-29-2002

Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landi a private message Print Post    
i read it also. and have learned alot since you started it also ladytex.

Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
ditto :-)

Retired
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07-11-2001

Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 11:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Retired a private message Print Post    
Same here.