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Serate
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08-21-2001

Monday, February 19, 2007 - 8:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
I thought it would have been a great Cinderella story if Mark would have won, but then his post race interviews reminded me why I don't particularly care for the man.

For some reason I thought you were a big fan of MM, so I kept my comments as minimum as possible. [wait, it's Darrell Waltrip you just LOVE!!! ] There's alot of whiners in NASCAR - and I will admit that Tony does his fair share - but there's something about the way Mark feels "entitled" to things that rubs me the wrong way. I guess one of the biggest things that still turns me off of MM is how he made a point of NOT saying congrats to Tony at the banquet in 2002 when Tony beat him for the Championship. Just reeked of bad sportsmanship if you ask me.

As far as his comment on if they would have thrown the caution he would have won - actually no he would not have. At a NASCAR message board I read - and sometimes post as a devil's advocate *L* - the owner posted pictures step by step and when the wreck started, when the wreck could NOT have been prevented, Kevin was ahead. So Kevin would STILL have won. Now I guess Jeffy has a valid grip - if hey had not thrown the caution at all he would have finished a lot closer to the front but thats the breaks.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 7:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
If Mark is such a whiner and sore loser then why is he so admired and respected by his fellow racers? I am not a bigtime MM fan, just someone who sees and reads alot of very favorable comments in the Charlotte area by other drivers about MM.

As far as the caution, they (Nascar) threw it on the last lap at Pocono last year and to be consistent they should have done it at Daytona. I don't care who wins, just be consistent in applying the (oh so very vague at times!) rules.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
I never said MM was a sore loser. All I said was it turned me sour on him when he made it quite clear in 2002 that he was NOT going to say congrats to Tony - or his team - during the banquet. It wasn't Tony that took his points away; but even if it was MM lost by more than the 25 points that was taken away. FWIW Tony has alot of respect for MM and has said so many times, before and after the 2002 Banquet. It's what causes ME not to care for him. I also do not care for his sense of entitlement - but that again is what causes ME not to care for him. What others think of him - be it fans, other drivers, car owners, whoever - is not and will never be dictated by what I think.

As far as NASCAR being consistent - they probably never will as it is almost always a subjective call.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
In regards to the caution, I think NASCAR is darned if they do and darned if they don't. They took nothing but grief from a lot of the same people who are complaining about it now when they didn't throw it.

There is always going to be the argument because it's a two sided coin. Let 'em race...or make 'em safe. You can't have it both ways. It's a judgement call.

Seriously...if it would have been Kyle Busch instead of Mark Martin, would we even be having the discussion? Probably not, because most folks would have been happy with the result.

I jumped off the Mark Martin bandwagon several years ago, when he was in the Winston and was taken out by Tony Stewart. Mark was asked about the incident and claimed, "I didn't see who hit me." Here's a hint Mark...it was orange, and it's wrecked to pieces, and parked against the wall right behind yours.

Everybody praised Mark for showing such "class" and not throwing Tony under the bus...which Tony probably appreciated. But from this race fans's standpoint, if you are going to look into the camera and tell me a bald face lie...don't expect any respect from this camp. I consider such things an insult to my intelligence, and breech of trust. That incident, added to his pessimistic Eyeore like demeanor was enough for me.

Others may have a very different opinion, which is fine...but it's not going to change mine. Mark is well respected throughout the garage as being a "clean" racer.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 3:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
I don't see why they don't just make up for the caution laps and/or don't count them off.

Mictay
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09-29-2006

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mictay a private message Print Post    
Did anyone catch the Busch race last night,I thought it was BORING,I hope it's better today!!!

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 9:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Who won today?

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Monday, February 26, 2007 - 5:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
Matt Kenseth...easily. He also won the Busch race. It appears to be the year of the "sweep."

I hated that Kevin Harvick had that flat tire at the end. He was the only that seemed to have anything for Matt.

Man! David Reutiman sure took a hard hit. I hope he's okay.

Mark Martin is now leading the points, with Jeff Burton in second.

I can't wait to see what they've done to Las Vegas. I hope it turns out as well as Homestead.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Monday, February 26, 2007 - 12:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
YAY! for Matt :-) I think Vegas will be "interesting"

Mictay
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09-29-2006

Friday, March 23, 2007 - 7:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mictay a private message Print Post    
My fav. track is this week BRISTOL!!!!Can't wait to see the car of tomorrow.

Happygal
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11-15-2004

Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happygal a private message Print Post    
The first time I glanced at the tv during qualifying I thought it was a truck race...the COT looks so different.

So far its been a good race today...less cautions and wrecks than expected. Tony is looking awfully good today, but I still want my Jeffy to win.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 8:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
The COT is a POS imo. <I hope abbreviations are ok here>

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 2:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Michael Waltrip survived a roll-over accident yesterday.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
Damn!
Witness: "I didn't think anybody was alive in there" after Waltrip accident

April 11, 2007

AP - Apr 10, 9:03 pm EDT
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CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- The witness who discovered Michael Waltrip's overturned car initially thought no one survived the accident until the NASCAR driver wiggled out the back window.

Report: Waltrip cited for reckless driving

April 11, 2007
CHARLOTTE, North Carolina (Ticker) - Michael Waltrip is having a tough year behind the wheel - and not just on the racetrack.

Happygal
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11-15-2004

Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happygal a private message Print Post    
Finally my Jeff won! It's been quite a while in coming. I like the fact that he carried the #3 flag on his victory lap and that Jr. was the first to congratuate him.

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 4:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
I am happy that he won also. I just wish he won last week when I had him in the NASCAR pool. :-)

Wink
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10-06-2000

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wink a private message Print Post    
Grooch I don't understand what you're doing in this thread. I thought I reminded you last week in our Martina McBride conversation that your Nascar membership was being revoked!!

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
<sulks out, head hanging>

Serate
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08-21-2001

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Kentucky Speedway revises lawsuit against NASCAR
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) - Kentucky Speedway no longer wants NASCAR to bring a Nextel Cup race to the track as part of its antitrust lawsuit against the racing governing body and International Speedway Corp.
The speedway filed an amended complaint in U.S. District Court last Friday, saying instead of a Nextel Cup race, it wants a judge to break up NASCAR and ISC, both of which are controlled by Bill France and members of his family.
The speedway is asking that ISC be ordered to sell at least eight of the 12 tracks it owns that host Nextel Cup races and that the speedway be awarded more than $200 million in damages, which automatically would be tripled under federal law if the speedway wins.
NASCAR and ISC have denied the antitrust claims in court filings and have called the speedway's allegations "thinly concealed expressions of bitterness against a more successful promoter."
The lawsuit claims NASCAR and ISC have worked together to create an unfair environment for independently owned tracks. Kentucky Speedway is one of several tracks that have unsuccessfully sought a race in the elite Cup series

http://tinyurl.com/2a6yaf

Happygal
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11-15-2004

Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 5:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happygal a private message Print Post    
wooohooo!!! The drive for five is definitely alive!

Mictay
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09-29-2006

Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mictay a private message Print Post    
Dale Earnhardt Jr. will leave DEI Inc at the end of the 2007 season.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 7:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
If you read this go to wcnc.com -- you can catch his interview on video.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
Big E must be spinning in his grave. Teresa has committed corporate suicide for DEI (or TEI as several reporters are now calling it!) by not signing Jr. It is so sad that Big E's vision and dreams for the company are now part of yesterday's trash.

Part of me would love to see Jr. drive the #3 at Childress, but he would walking in his father's shadow without making his own name as far as championships go. I agree with his thinking that the #3 is what he wants in his later years. I am hoping that he ends up with Hendricks (bye bye Casey) where he will have the best resources.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 8:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
I hate to see the demise of DEI but I would love to see the demise of "TEI."

I am so sad for Jr. His daddy would never have allowed this to happen. While I get tired of trying to find merchandise that doesn't have Budweiser on it, I'm glad they are going with him as it's just another shot to Teresa.

The best revenge - Jr. winning the Cup next year!!!!

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 8:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Ooops!