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Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Shameful! These celebs think they can say or do anything with impunity, no matter who they hurt. <77> And Richards appology was utterly lame-O.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
where did he do the apology?

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Pamy, I heard about it on the radio.

ETA - and they included his lame appology when they referred to his rant. But they didn't say exactly WHAT he said, just referred to certain elements of it, and it was disgusting enough. I found out the rest reading this thread.

Karen
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09-07-2004

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 8:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
Pamy, you can watch it here:
http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=1&pmmsid=1773282

Far as I can tell, it will air on Letterman tonight.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 8:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
supposedly he apologized at the letterman taping ... I'm getting ready to turn to letterman now

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
pamy, richards is on letterman tonight via satellite. he apologized on Letterman (they have been showing the apology on CBS news).i have not heard that richards will be on leno. rodriguez does not own the laugh factory; jamie masada owns it. i still don't think the lf should have allowed him back the next night even if he was going to apologize.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Thx for the info.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Laugh Factory Statement

For 28 years the Laugh Factory has prided itself on being the only club that guaranteed laughter. On Friday night the club exercised that pledge and refunded money to its patrons for the first time. We are truly sorry for what happened. This is a comedy club and while we have always supported the comics¹ first amendment rights, we have done so with the understanding that they were exercising that right in an effort to be funny.

We do not support or condone the inappropriate, hurtful and offensive comments that Mr. Richards made on Friday night at the Laugh Factory.

Mr. Richards was scheduled to appear on Saturday night and had informed management of his intention to apologize for his hurtful and unprofessional outburst from the previous night. He failed to do so and disappointed us.

We have made it clear that Mr. Richards is no longer welcomed here. The Laugh Factory is a comedy club not a forum for personal attacks.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 8:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Rodriquez may not own it, but he was who was on tv and made the statement that I quoted.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 8:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
yes, ladytex. i've seen both rodriguez and masada on the news making statements.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 8:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
ahh, I see now why Seinfeld wanted that apology out there now ... they are pushing the season 7 dvd ...

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
rodriguez and masada have been connected for many years.http://lafd.blogspot.com/2006/11/laugh-factory-benefit-for-fallen.html

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Seinfeld was scheduled for Letterman weeks ago, he didnt appear tonite because of this.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
ladytex, my partner JUST said something very similar... great minds and all!

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
ladytex, i was so surprised to read Pamy's post...that seinfeld's appearance was pre-scheduled. since it happened friday night, i'm sure he heard about it early. i figured seinfeld asked letterman if he could be a guest tonight.

if you have time, let us know about letterman. have you heard if richards will be on leno?

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
okay ... having seen this ... I think the apology is sincere ... he DOES have work to do, but I really think he was sincere ...

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
yes, Seinfeld was scheduled ... to plug the DVD release.

That interview/apology was difficult to watch. Letterman's audience was laughing at the beginning, which ticked off Seinfeld and Richards. I think the audience didn't know what to expect. But by the end, it was so quiet.

Spygirl
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04-23-2001

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
WOW...I've just watched the Letterman segment. His own shame is so painfully evident.

I always hope people are able to take responsibility for their own actions, but seeing that painful process is just not easy to watch. I wish we didn't have to confront our own shame in order to learn, but it is just unavoidable sometimes.

I can find some appreciation for the way he is approaching this. I don't blame him for hoping it wouldn't come out, but now that it has, he does not seem to be skirting the issue. I wish other public figures were able to accomplish half as much.

I sincerely hope he is able to make some significant personal changes after having to confront his own actions in such a public way. I also hope this proves to be a point of connection regarding racism rather than a point of contention.


Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Seinfeld's appearance was listed in the tv guide I got last week, so yes this was scheduled way before this all happened.

I saw a bit of th apology on utube, I dont know sinceere or not, no matter how pissed I am I would never say that word...he could have called the hecklers m-fers and it wouldnt have been as bad...yes it would hae been bad but not sick to your stomach bad , imo

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
one thing that struck me was he said a couple of times that he didn't know where that came from, and then near the end he said he had to do some personal work. I really hope he does. He emphasized that he was not a racist, but those comments came from somewhere dark in him. I hope he finds that and exorsises it ...

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
how odd. i still can't figure out why there was some laughter from the audience from the laugh factory. i would have been yelling/demanding he get off the stage. i guess there was initial shock?

eta: just saw your post pamy. no amount of anger would cause anyone to say those words unless he is truly sick IMO.

Spygirl
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04-23-2001

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
Abby, it is the same reason that people were laughing in Letterman's audience during the apology. There is an expectation of funny...so, you look for what must be funny. In both settings, I think there was some confusion around whether it was maybe staged or not real and therefore "funny".

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'll give him full marks so far for at least not skirting the issue and not blaming it on drinking / drugs / whatever.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 10:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
well, this incident certainly has made me do some thinking about my own priorities. i hadn't read or heard on the news the article Tishala posted earlier (see: Monday, November 20, 2006 - 11:37 am
Classes divided by race Dallas Morning News )

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i realize i really need to take more responsibility to find out what is happening in this country (not to mention the world) and take more responsibility as a citizen. i'm not doing my part...or, not enough, surely. it's also a shame that the news Tishala posted didn't get nearly as much media as richards did. (even though i think it was important that his actions were exposed)

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 10:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I had the same surprised reaction to the laughter after he started his rant, but thought about it and consider that obviously some people were talking and may not have heard him clearly at first, then there would be a combination of nervous laughter, surprise, the OMG reaction and I suppose someone might have even enjoyed it or at first have been glad he was calling the loud people out, until they heard HOW he was doing it, the words he was using and especially that it was repeated and repeated.. it just got worse and worse.

Haven't seen the apology except some clips earlier.. I've been packing and have to load up my backpack and then should be hitting the shower, so will have to see clips later.

Yeah it is good that he isn't skirting the issue, but I have to wonder if it hadn't hit the news, well we know he came back and nothing of value happened from his return, so it took being banished and lambasted.

I agree, Spy, I hope this results in good connection and dialog for many people.