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Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 5:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
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Cheri, good luck from me too...

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 3:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
Thanks Costa and Julie, I appreciate that.

S was stupid enough to call 911 yesterday, we saw the cop car at their house. I am guessing they were annoyed that she even called because they did not come down to our house. I hope she got a fanny- chewing!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 8:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Hope all is going well today for you Costa and Cheri...

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
LOL Jules!!!

I also wanna gripe that it's NOT YET MAY but... we are already having May Gray here! Overcast and foggy, till about noon. (When the desert heats up, it sucks the cool air over the ocean inland, and May Gray and June Gloom... Bleah!)

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 11:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
Awww, Julie, that's so sweet, thank you!

I did have an uneventful Sunday, as far as redneck landlords go. I have never met a more greedy, vindictive person in all my life. (And hope I never do again!) And childish. Just think, Bob only asked a reasonable question, AFTER her husband started walking toward the car, and she screeches 911. It's like a sick, twisted game to her, with $ as the prize.

I think she messed up though. The county police was aggravated about the fuss she made over a gate, Saturday she bothered them again- on the day a nearby town was having it's semi-annual mile-long yard sale, which means the highway connecting my town and that one, the highway I live on, was on big yard sale, with bumper to bumper traffic going 20 miles an hour, stretching for about 12 miles. It's always a huge mess and keeps law enforcement busy. I'm sure they were upset with her. I think that's why they didn't come on down to my house, they knew her call was sheer nonsense.

Oh well, tomorrow's another day and she'll probably turn up the heat again. I'll be so glad to get out of here!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 3:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
i have no idea what the Rental Laws are in the USA but in Canada it is the Landlord's reponsibility to do repairs.

Can I counter-sue them for the cost of the septic tank and electrical box, which WE paid for. ?


You never should have paid to start with. When you rent the landlord has to be notified of the problem and they have a certain amount of time which they must fix it.

I still think you probably can get your money back. Small Claims Court. Here it is only $50 to start the proceedings and it is good to clear your name.(and get reimbursed)

Can I sue them for harrassment, because the stress from this crap contributed to a need for a hospitalization for depression

I have no idea if that is the way to go about it. If you are 'labelled' with a mental disorder or something Clinical, it could be used as a Good reason for their Lien.

For instance, they could say they put the lien on because of 'unbalanced' history of interactions. They had 'just cause' in thinking payment wouldnt occur.

I would assume your Rent receipts would prove that you were a good renter who paid on time. Then you have a harrassment suit I think.

JUST my OPinion, and I aint a legal person. But i did run a Small Claims Court case for my friend who got ripped off when he bought a Manufactored house (which had hidden rot)

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 5:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
Thank you so much for the help, Sunshine. We were stupid all the way around on this one. We thought these people were friends, turns out all they were were snakes.

We moved in with the promise of a contract to come, we agreed to buy the mobile home from them and pay for the septic and electrical instillation, they agreed that after we bought the trailer we could buy the land. But as per Tennessee law since nothing was in writing it's not binding.

Everything was fine until they couldn't get any more money from us in the form of selling us stuff (like the pool) that they didn't want anymore. Then phphpit! out ya go!

Last year, right before we made our last payment, they presented us with a LEASE on the trailer, showing that we'd rented it, not bought it. it was complete down to our forged signatures, and since I have CP and it's impossible for anyone to forge my signature, it would have been easy to prove. I ended up with the document locked in my safe and since we had ammunition, we got the title. Then they said we could rent the land and since my husband was newly disabled we really didn't have a choice. Then they decided to evict us.

I don't think they know we have money coming in, they think we'll have to give them the trailer, which I believe is their ultimate goal. We've decided to pay their lien, which will allow us to buy the one we want and move, and move the trailer out of here. Then we'll go back and sue- there's no way they can prove $5000 in damages. I'm going to drop the depression bit, but we are going after recovering money for the septic and electric. I do have all the receipts proving we paid on time for over 6 years.

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
My husband went to the courthouse to check on this lien. THERE ISN"T ONE! We have a clear title, he has the paperwork to prove it. Once again Sandy was trying to control and manipulate with LIES!!!

God, what a childish !

Urgrace
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08-19-2000

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Urgrace a private message Print Post    
Thank goodness, Cheri. It will be good for you to get out of there.

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
Yes it will, Grace. I already feel as if someone has unlocked the chains that bind me here.

Five days and counting.

Urgrace
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08-19-2000

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Urgrace a private message Print Post    
Yay!!!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 2:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
We thought these people were friends, turns out all they were were snakes.



i think we all can relate. It is funny how doing business with friends rarely turns out well. I've felt stupid many times in my life.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 2:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
sounds like you've got an ironclad Small Claims case too!

I cant remember if the judge asked for 'feelings' or not but If they do, you could bring up the stress of your husband recently becoming disabled and these people being Aware of it, yet still harrassing.

I just think if you have a statement ready just incase the judge Asks, you'll be fine.

Oh, and they just Love pictures. Pictures of the places and the objects you are talking about. Especially if you paid more than they were actually worth.

I'm tired and probably not making sense LOL

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 3:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
Sunshine, after last night we're going after them with both barrels blazing.

Let's set the stage... 6 years ago they told us we could leave the water in their son;s name. Yesterday our hot water heater sprung a leak and we turned it off til Jeremy had time to fix it. That finally got done about 8 last night, and we turned the water back on. .....No water! We're suspicious of course so J drove down to the road to look at the shut-off. There was a padlock on it. Called the water co, even tho we just paid the bill. Nope, not us!
Landlords turned our water off. And padlocked it. We called the sheriff and they sent someone out. Told him all they have done. He said we have a very good case for harassment.
He was going to go down and wake them up and tell them they can't do that. Still no water this am.
I'm calling their lawyer this morning and talk to him, he'll call them and tell them to turn it back on. I'm also telling him they just bought themselves a big, fat lawsuit. Included will be the fact that at least 1/2 the reason for my phsyc hospitalization was stress from their shennanigans. The COP told us to make sure we include that!

Cdbga
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10-04-2004

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 4:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cdbga a private message Print Post    
Okay, had to come in and gripe about this...Chase's increased security. I have several accounts with them. And, yes, I know the increased security benefits me, but that doesn't make it any less irritating. My specific gripe, they have this thing now where you have to have a validation code for any PC you log in from. So, if I want to access my account from a different PC, I have to get a new validation code for it first. Grrrr. It is most infuriating with my laptop, because whenever I use a different method for access, it tells me I am using a different PC, and I need a new code (even when I'm using my home service...apparently I have a different IP address for each room of my apartment, even though it is the same computer and same connection). *SIGH* It just always seems to come up when I want to just quickly access my account and I can't quickly access my account if I have to wait for them to send me a code first. And the other day, the ONLY option I was getting was having it sent as a text message to my cell, and of course the battery was dead on the cell, so I couldn't access a text message. At least today, I have just the regular phone message option. Vent over - that is all.

Cheri, your situation sounds horrible. I hope you can get things worked out.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 4:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Cheri, I am coming late to this conversation. I am so sorry for your stress. You have gotten some great support and advice here and if I can add just one more.... it would be that's it never too late to try to get evidence in writing. Are they smart enough to not be manipulated into admitting something in an email? If you wrote them asking a question or making a statement, so you think they would confirm in a written form? Same with other people involved.. contractors, police, etc. Try to get something in writing from them while their memories are fresh.

Sunshyne is right about pictures too. It all comes down to evidence. I was a resident manager (a Landlord in effect) and had several incidences of taking tenants to court. Stay calm, dress professionally and no matter what, show no anger. It's a business contract gone wrong, that's all the judge wants to know. Let the other side come across as bitter and vindictive.

Good luck!!!!

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 4:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Cheri, I wouldn't warn that crummy landlord about any potential lawsuits. Don't give him time to backtrack on anything...JMO.

In New York state, it is difficult to get rid of poor tenants (I'm of course not talking about you, just about the situation here). You can have electricity or gas off, but water can not be. I don't know why that is singled out, but it is. I know this because my neighbor had a horrible tenant and apparently he had to right to water. Check that out in your state. If that's the case there, you could certainly get him in a lot of trouble for padlocking your water.

Good luck with your ongoing battle. It must be so tiring!

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
((((((Cheri)))))) Unbelieveable how meanspirited some folks can be. Unbelievable. Instead of being compassionate to you and your dh because of your disabilities, they seem to think you are easy prey. Seems to me that they are in for a nice surprise when you fight back legally! I think it's awesome that you are getting the hell out of Dodge AND then taking those SOB's to court. MAKE SURE YOU TAKE PIX OF EVERYTHING, especially the padlocked water thingum. That is CRUELTY and majorly illegal. So they are gonna be, in such hot water. Pun Intended. Six years is a very long time to endure such constant irational harrasment. I wish you much happiness in your new home. And for heaven's sake, do NOT leave those folks your forwarding address or phone number. Just make your change of address with the post office. If they need to contact you, let them go through your lawyer! With 'friends' like these... (shudder)

ETA - ITA with Huk - Cheri, I wouldn't warn that crummy landlord about any potential lawsuits. Don't give him time to backtrack on anything.

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 8:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
I'll answer more fully later, just wanted to thank everyone.

My husband figured out what happened with the water, and I called and checked. Water bills were mailed Tuesday, they went through the mail in our box (we've long suspected they did that) and decided to harrass via no water. Bob called their lawyer and threatened to sue them for opening our mail. A bit later he went to the water department to talk to them. They told him John went up and PAID THE $150 DEPOSIT and had the water turned back on!

Expensive day for him, I'm still laughing.

We're still going to sue, enough's enough. Since they're trying so hard to make money off us, let them pay. We have pictures of the thorns in the driveway, and get this- ,y son said he had a funny feeling and went to check the water cut off thingy... and found the lock, with John's keys still attached!!

(((Mameblanche))) there's no way I'm letting them know our address or where we're moving, and it's a gated community, they can't get in anyway.

So much for a short answer!

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 9:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
Need to clarify, lol. I called the water department first thing this morning. John told them to turn the water off and they told us to get it back on would mean $150 deposit + the amount owed.

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Friday, May 04, 2007 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
Rissa, we're not allowed to contact them in any way or we'll be sued for harassment. I guess it's a restraining order, we got served papers by the sheriff's office. They did that so everytime we looked at them crosseyed they could call the cops yelling harassment, which they've done 3 times now. One went to court, the court date was the day my husband had surgery, and I was in the hospital too. We'd talked to their lawyer though and even he sided with us (I think he thinks they're drama queens, and he's right). He had the charge dropped and as long as we're out of here by the 15th they can't collect damages.

I don't mind, lol. We call their lawyer and communicate through him and I'm guessing every minute we spend talking to him means money out of their wallet. We've also been sending the rent to him. I want to not pay it but I don't want this going back to court. I don't want them to have an iota of a chance of a judge ordering us to pay lawyer's fees and court costs. The court documents say as long as we're out and not in arrears no further action will be taken.

We didn't get pics of the padlocked water shut-off but even the folks at the water department know what's going on. We could prob get them for slander too, they told the farmer who rents the fields (with the infamous cattle gate) that our water bill was very delinquent. It's not.

My packing is going well, I should be done by tonight but even if I'm not we have til the 15th. I can't get rid of my old way of thinking on packing. I'm a retired Air Force wife (toughest job in the Air Force, tyvm), and packing meant pack it all now (or have them pack it all) or lose it.

It would not surprise me a bit though if they try to padlock the gate our first night away from here, whether all our stuff is out or not. Or whether it is the 15th or not. I have a feeling she's not done yet. Bob did tell John's Dad we're suing though, so maybe they'll back off but I don't expect it.

Oh well, going to surf a bit then get crackin' again.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Friday, May 04, 2007 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Good Lord Cheri, who needs to live like that? Glad to hear you are so close to escaping. LOL

I had one tenant who was months behind in his rent. Told me he only had enough to pay one major bill and his car was his priority. He knew it was a matter of days before we dragged him into landlord court and then be evicted so get this... he filed a lawsuit AGAINST US that he had been paying rent with cash all along and we had misappropriated his money. It was a waste of time lawsuit anyway but I wrote him a little note and slid it under his door basically saying that he and I both know he hasn't paid his rent in months but it was in our best interest to find some way to settle this. He wrote back that he and I might know he hasn't paid rent but have fun trying to prove it. As Jeff Foxworthy would say..."Here's your sign" :-) Sometimes people are so angry that their judgement doesn't work, so it's too bad that you can't contact them. If they slip up and admit something, it's a fast and easy way to settle everything.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, May 04, 2007 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
ROFLMAO, Rissa!

Cheri4angels
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11-15-2006

Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 3:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheri4angels a private message Print Post    
We had to call the cops this morning to make them let our friends on the property to help. Evidently they found a new lawyer, supposedly we can't move the trailer and sheds til the rent's paid.

Check goes in the mail Monday and then we're moving our buildings. Trailer's already been signed over to the person who's moving it. So wadda they gonna do now?

I am so tired and so sick, and sooooo glad to be resting my head somewhere else tonight.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 7:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
(((((((((((Cheri)))))))))))))