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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 8:59 am
Julieboo, good question. My nephew's first communion is coming up and I hadn't even thought about getting him a present until I saw your question. That would have been a faux pas, yes?
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 1:38 pm
Well, I thought someone at TVCH would have an answer for my question. hhmmm
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 1:40 pm
What question?
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 1:45 pm
Twinks, I went back several archives and didn't see your question unless I'm completely blind (which could be, lol.)
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 1:59 pm
New question: What was Twinkie's question? That didn't get answered! 
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Cndeariso
Member
06-28-2004
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 2:01 pm
twinkie, i did a search on your name for the past 30 days and all the questions in this thread you have asked were answered. was it posted before then?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 2:03 pm
I was dumb and kept "manually" searching. I think Twinkie is playing an April Fools joke on us about 29 day late!
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Karen
Member
09-07-2004
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 2:14 pm
It's happened to me more than once that I've posted something, and over the course of a few days become quite miffed that it hasn't been replied to yet. I look back over the thread and realize I'd only thought the post, I hadn't actually posted it! LOL. Twinkie, did you forget to ask the question?? 
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 2:54 pm
Awhile back I posted in here about getting a letter from the DMV telling us we owe them money for the Lincoln from last year. Darren went over and talked to them about it, then him and bil ended up going back and taking care of it together. We haven't even thought about it since then since it was supposed to be done and taken care of, so said DMV. Today, I got our state tax refund back and it was $86 less than what it should have been. A brief note on the bottom portion told me I would recieve a letter from them explaining the difference. That letter also came today. It explained that the State of California could take money out of it that we owed to someone and they'd taken $86 out because we owed the DMV (that's what they were trying to get from us for the Lincoln.) So, my stupid question, and it is stupid, but I'm wondering is if I should just write that money off altogether now? Nothing else we've done, not my bil transferring ownership and paying the tags, not him going over alone, not Darren going, not both of them going to the DMV have gotten these people to stop bugging me for this money, maybe now that they took it they'll leave me alone? My worry at this point is that we have to pay the tags for both our van and Honda next week and I don't want any type of hang up or hassle getting that done over the stupid Lincoln!
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 3:43 pm
As long as you have that letter, the DMV can't do you any more harm or hassle. Thing is, did your bil and dh already pay the DMV the same $86 and now owe it to you?
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 4:45 pm
Well, shoot! I don't know where I posted it! LOL OK! Here's my question: Seeing all of the stories about the rain forests being cut down at an alarming rate I noticed that the biggest paper offenders are my utility bills. Electric, gas, cable, phone, etc include so much junk trying to sell me something and it all goes in the trash! Its a horrible waste! But who do we complain to and is it worth trying or is it beating a dead horse?
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Karen
Member
09-07-2004
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 4:55 pm
All of my utility providers, as well as my bank, offers me a 'paperless account'. I've put a sticker on my mailbox that says 'No Unaddressed Mail" - eliminating all those store fliers -- and all my bills are sent to me electronically, so no waste there, either. See if you can do something like that to cut down on the paper that comes and goes through your house?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 4:58 pm
Simple answer--pay those bills automatically online.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 4:59 pm
Twink, I don't know about where you are but here you can get some of them (the phone company I know for sure) to list you as paperless or something like that. I get my bill in email every month, stupidly because I still walk my bill in to a pay station though I still need the paper copy. If I could pay it online I wouldn't bother getting paper copy mailed to the house. Check with your utility companies though and see if they have anything like that. Gracie, that's the thing, no money was owed. My bil has kept up all the fees since the car was transferred over to him. Apparently after he registered it though, he went back and redid it as a junk car and didn't finish the paperwork. If anything they would owe him some money because it's less to register it as a junk car than as a regular running one or something like that. He's had the freaking car for almost two years now and there's no reason any of this from October 2005 should be coming to us! This is DMV screw up, because we and my bil did everything we were supposed to shortly after the last time I posted about this. So yes, my bil paid the same $86 in Oct 2005 and now we've paid the same. We were beyond frustrated with this the last letter we got where they threatened to seize property and garnish Darren's wages, now I'm just ready to scream. That's why I'm wondering if it'd just be better at this point to say screw that money and let it go, even though it's our money and we didn't owe it to them in the first place instead of the guys once again getting time off work to go deal with it.
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Karen
Member
09-07-2004
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 5:08 pm
... you could also shred and recycle those bills, instead of tossing 'em in the trash... 
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 6:54 pm
Maybe I should be more specific. How do we, as a people, get these companies to stop wasting paper? I'm not talking about my few bills but everyone's. How do we stop the big corporations?
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 8:12 pm
War, I think you have to weigh up whether it is worth $86 of your money in exchange for getting this just finished with. That's probably something you guys will have to decide for yourselves. If people in your family are going to have to take time off work (which would cost either directly in lost wages or otherwise in the time to make up the work) then maybe it is just worth forgetting it. I recently "wrote-off" a medical payment by just paying it for exactly the reason you said - in the end it was worth paying the money to get rid of the stress associated with trying to get them to do the right thing. Shame it has to happen, but you can always claim the moral victory, even if they don't know you are ;).
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 8:18 pm
War, IF you go after that money and GET it I think you should be sure to do something really fun with it 
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Melfie1222
Member
07-29-2002
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 8:55 pm
Twinkie... by convincing one other bill payer at a time. Talk it up with your family, friends, neighbors, co-workers. Tell them how easy it is to receive and pay your bills without all of the paper. You will probably find that some people already do, and want to do it more; some people don't completely trust the internet and are skeptical about receiving and sending financial info; and some people are just truly old school and "want" their paper bills as much as they want to pay in cash or write out a check for every thing they pay for. I think most corporations want to go paperless, but can't because the consumers hold them back. The corporation has to try to accommodate every customer, including the guy who lives way out there and drives into town to check his post office box a few times a month. I think the only thing the corporations could do is maybe advertise it bigger on their paper bills... "Here's how to pay your bill online, here's how to get your bill through email, etc." But still. They can only do so much, and only do what their customers tell them to do. I think it's up to us as consumers.
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Karen
Member
09-07-2004
| Monday, April 30, 2007 - 11:48 pm
That's exactly what I was gonna say, Melfie. Seems most companies have already taken the first step to offer 'paperless' accounts, and now it's up to us, the consumer, to take them up on that offer. It's so simple, and, c'mon, we all pay our bills online anyways, so why not? Send me an email with the amount I owe, and I'll pay it. Easy.
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 12:15 am
twinkie, i just posted a very long reply to your question/s. however, it's already been answered several times so erased it. it's up to us, the consumer. it's not a paper war against consumer/us vs utilities/big corporations. it's now our choice. i do have a question for you twinkie regarding this part of your post: >>>>>>: Electric, gas, cable, phone, etc include so much junk trying to sell me something and it all goes in the trash! Its a horrible waste >>>>>> my question: what are they sending you w/your bills to try and sell you something? (i do understand that w/bills there is some added info that i think, by law, is required. however, i'm not aware about the extra junk/ads).
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 1:12 am
Some of them (and credit card bills too) add in junk mail, trying to sell "protection" or touting appliances, or "free gifts" (where you have to pay postage and handling) and so on. And I don't have bill pay for everything and I still get paper from cable (that is paid automatically) and from my water/trash bill, (that is paid automatically). What bugs me is when you have a credit balance and they still include an envelope (gas company)
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 6:08 am
Exactly, Sea! Get the most waterproof rain coat ever! Order your designer checks here! They put so much junk in them for stuff I'm never going to buy from them. MY biggest problem is getting hubby to go to all electronic bill-paying. He's in internet security and he worries about hackers. Go figure. I'm really going to have to talk to him about it, again, maybe a little more "forcefully". LOL
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 7:22 am
Wargod I think it is about more than this $86.00. So you let this go, what happens if next year you have the same problem, and they take it again next year. And so on, and so forth. Something is majorly wrong in their system if both you and your BIL get the same thing and your BIL pays it.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 8:01 am
I pay 90% of my bills online. Yet, I get a TON of junk mail every day. I wish I would stop getting so many credit card offers. It seems those are the worst offenders. How do I get them to stop sending me credit card offers?
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