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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, April 27, 2007 - 3:44 pm
If that's the litter they've been using, and are used to, then yes. You just need to get rid of the bleach smell, and get it back to THEIR smell. Putting litter from a used box should help. If any of your cats prefer corners, the auto litterbox won't work well. Costa is a "corner pee-er" and the auto scoop doesn't quite get the corners. If I just had my little girl cat, Kassie, it wouldn't be a problem. (Seems some boys like corners!)
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, April 27, 2007 - 4:10 pm
Does anyone know the difference between the Littermaid Elite Mega (that costs about $200) and the Littermaid one that they sell at Walmart for about $90? (I don't know the model name of that one.) Also thanks for your help!!!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, April 27, 2007 - 7:20 pm
Julie, I'd give the technique a try at least.. There are lights you can buy that will help you to determine where pee may be..sorta like in CSI, it glows under the light.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, April 27, 2007 - 7:29 pm
Well, I have switched litterboxes, put some "used" litter in the "rejected" box as well as Dr. Elyse's litter in both. Hope that'll work! When I came back from getting the new litter, I could no longer smell the pee. So maybe the stress (of the adoption situation) is making me hallucinate!!!??? Thanks for your suggestions! I think Costa brought up a good point for me to think about. Once in a while I will hear George peeing in the box and I can hear it hit the side of the litterbox (which is really a bin). So if I did get the automatic one (that does not have "walls" I do think he'd be peeing out of the box. I tell ya, there is always something....
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 9:51 pm
Okay Time for me to go into Chemistry Lecture mode. Julieboo I'm surprised you didnt get sick!! Cat pee basically is Ammonia based. you should never mix Bleach with pee. It releases Chlorine Gas....a toxic gas used during the War! also, Most Dishwashing liquids have warnings on them DOnt mix with Bleach. http://firstaid.about.com/od/hazardousmaterials/ht/bleachgas.htm by the way, I've seen chlorine gas released when a coworker decided to Mix bleach and a EMPTY jug which HAD contained acidified urine. we had to evacuate the area. it was pretty burning on the eyes and throat. Now, why would the cats want to Pee in that box when a gas is released that overcomes them burning their eyes and nose? Smart cats LOL To clean out litterbox use boiling hot water and VINEGAR!! later wipe it out with a bit of Baking soda. That cleans it/ disinfects it and takes the smell away. I think you can save your old litterbox by recleaning it. Do remember to rinse it really well before adding more chemicals. Bleach often leaves a residue in the little plastic cracks/ scratches. GOOD luck! Hope I helped. (yes I'm aware the occ'l website says weak Bleach is okay, but truthfully, it isnt)
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 9:54 pm
Seems some boys like corners!) Because Girls squat and Boys prefer to stand. Naturally Boy cats stand up and the urine sprays out ..quite high. I've seen my guy outside....and occasionally in the house up a wall when I wont let him outside when He demands. Best thing to clean up Cat pee in a house??? Dishwashing liquid....the grease cutter is what takes the pee out.
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 5:28 pm
Anybody have experience with freshwater fountains for cats?
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 11:45 pm
anyone have experience with a bloodthirsty cat? Maybe you can relate and I feel like venting. I am so upset right now. We've been at the other house for a couple of weeks (the cats are indoor there) and finally came home last night. Whiskers went out this afternoon and I saw him under a bushy brambly tree where he never hangs out. I went over to see if he had a bird or something (I will rescue them so they fly away) Anyways, got there and he was batting at a hole. I heard something make a Scream (so I knew it wasnt a mouse or shrew) . I shoo'd him away and looked at a Chipmunk. I never knew Chipmunks make ground dens but there it was with its striped face and mottled body...bleeding pretty bad. Took the cat in the house for hours so if it was going to die, It could go naturally with some dignity. I went back for a closer look, pulled back the hair twig/ leaf doorway and scouted out the interior making sure it didnt have babies. I also looked at it's belly to look for teats. Long story short, after around 6 hrs I let cat out. Cats dont play with dead things so I didnt think about it. He was gone way longer than usual so I went out to check whether he'd dragged the Chipmunk out of the hole and to make sure it was really colddead. I was Horrified to find Three more bodies, bleeding and cold (and one partially eaten fourth). I had a real close look this time and they are baby rabbits. I dont know how I couldnt have seen them when I checked earlier. I would ahve never let cat out if I knew there were more. Anyways, there are four more living eyes still closed babies in the hole and two are injured. So closed up the hole with the hair and I hope Mom comes back to move them. I am so mad. We raised rabbits and I know what baby rabbits look like. I just cant believe I thought that first one was an adult chipmunk. Anyways, Murdering cat is going to be in the house for days until the eyes open and they move to a new location. When I had birds I put up catproof fencing to keep them safe. There is no way I can protect a rabbit den. IF mom rabbit doesnt come back I guess I will raise the babies....if the two strongest survive. I still have a rabbit cage from ten yrs ago and would be fine raising them once their eyes are open. So, now I ahve offically debriefed and hopefully someone here has had a similar experience. I feel quite guilty. Nature is nature and If I dont see it, it doesnt bother me. this bothers me.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 11:55 pm
Hope the remaining bunnies make it, Sun. Can't comment on the rest because my cats are strictly indoors.
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 9:17 am
Giving Pills to Pets How to give a cat a pill 1. Pick up cat and cradle it in the crook of your left arm as if holding a baby. Position right forefinger and thumb on either side of cat's mouth and gently apply pressure to cheeks while holding pill in right hand. As cat opens mouth pop pill into mouth. Allow cat to close mouth and swallow. 2. Retrieve pill from floor and cat from behind sofa. Cradle cat in left arm and repeat process. 3. Retrieve cat from bedroom, and throw soggy pill away. 4. Take new pill from foil wrap, cradle cat in left arm holding rear paws tightly with left hand. Force jaws open and push pill to back of mouth with right fore-finger. Hold mouth shut for a count of ten. 5. Retrieve pill from goldfish bowl and cat from top of wardrobe. Call spouse in from garden. 6. Kneel on floor with cat wedged firmly between knees, hold front and rear paws. Ignore low growls emitted by cat. Get spouse to hold head firmly with one hand while forcing wooden ruler into mouth. Drop pill down ruler and rub cat's throat vigorously. 7. Retrieve cat from curtain rail, get another pill from foil wrap. Make note to buy new ruler and repair curtains. Carefully sweep shattered figurines and vases from hearth and set to one side for gluing later. 8. Wrap cat in large towel and get spouse to lie on cat with head just visible from below armpit. Put pill in end of drinking straw, force mouth open with pencil and blow down the straw. 9. Check label to make sure pill not harmful to humans, drink glass of water to take taste away. Apply band-aid to spouse's forearm and remove blood from carpet with cold water and soap. 10. Retrieve cat from neighbor's shed. Get another pill. Place cat in cupboard and close door onto neck to leave head showing. Force mouth open with dessert spoon. Flick pill down throat with elastic band. 11. Fetch screwdriver from garage and put cupboard door back on hinges. Apply cold compress to cheek and check records for date of last tetanus jab. Throw Tee-shirt away and fetch new one from bedroom. 12. Ring fire brigade to retrieve cat from tree across road. Apologize to neighbor who crashed into fence while swerving to avoid cat. Take last pill from foil wrap. 13. Tie cat's front paws to rear paws with garden twine and bind tightly to leg of dining table, find heavy duty pruning gloves from shed. Push pill into mouth followed by large piece of fillet steak. Hold head vertically and pour two pints of water down throat to wash pill down. 14. Get spouse to drive you to the emergency room, sit quietly while doctor stitches fingers and forearm and remove pill remnants from right eye. Call furniture shop on way home to order new table. 15. Arrange for RSPCA to collect cat and ring local pet shop to see if they have any hamsters. How to give a dog a pill 1. Wrap it in bacon.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 2:48 pm
LOL.. so true!! I was amazed that Angelina was actually easy to pill.. I did it for three days and I think she would have given me much grief if she hadn't been so weak At that point I was able to pick up my triple fish flavored liquid version of the same med from the compounding pharmacy and that was just the best thing since sliced bread. Easy to give her.. she fought it the first time but then realized.. this is GOOD and after that it was a treat to her. When I adopted Critter 16 years ago, she got sick right away, so she didn't know me and after vet interventions that she didn't like, I had to pill her three times a day and I bear the scars to this day from her protests. If she ever needs meds again I will absolutely get the flavored liquid. And that is SO right about dogs.. cream cheese, yeah.. of course I had labradors who will eat almost anything anyway.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 2:57 pm
Compounders, Opheila and my best friends. She's had to take a steriod most of her life and the tuna solution its in goes down real smoooothe for her....and me.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 3:06 pm
For those of you who use compounded scripts, you should visit this thread and voice your opposition to a law that would make compounding less available. ../9200/4153365.html"#DEE7EF"> | Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 3:11 pm
Cd...That was hysterical and I can relate from years raising cats. I was even in the emergency room in San Diego. Try explaining why your beautiful show cat put 22 puncture wounds in your hand and the cat is still alive...and you are going to put him back in the show the next day!
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 4:33 pm
Fortunately, I've never had to pill Naiya, but boy did we have fun with her liquid painkillers after she was spayed. They gave them to me pre-measured in syringes, and showed me how easy it was to squirt into her mouth. LOL, yeah real easy! It actually wasn't bad after the first disaster of an attempt (thank goodness for those Nail Caps she had on!)...I figured out how she would let me do it. But Whitney? As long as I put her pills in something she has to chew, she is fine. Usually I just push them into a piece of Pupparoni, but her little liver treats work, too. And I just break up her vitamins and mix them into her food.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 4:45 pm
the vet had a long clamp thingy where the pill is stuck at the end. She forces the mouth open and actually shoves the 'pill end' of the long thingy into the throat. She tried to pill 'Whiskers the vicious' and WOW what a fight. he coughed it up foaming and frothing. It took about four tries to get it down. i felt bad for him , his throat must have been pretty sore after those attempts. ****** I think I have good news. the Four bunnies are still leaping around and I think the mom came back to feed. I'd think that 12 hrs without food would have left them less energetic. I recovered the den and put a leaf on top of it. If the leaf is moved I'll know for sure that mommy bunny has come back for feedings. I figure their eyes will be open in a couple of days. In the meantime, I am going to put up a temporary wire fence to keep cats under control. My cats have always been almost exclusively outdoor as i have such a big yard and empty lot next door. Whiskers is going just nutz today as it is sunny and i'm not letting him out. have a good day Everyone!
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 4:53 pm
Yay Bunnies! 
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 4:56 pm
Oh, Serate, just saw your post. I have one of those PetMate fountains for Whitney and Naiya. Naiya really likes it. She loves to drink the water as it is flowing out of the spout. I also had one of the grass attachments for it. We had mixed results on that one. Naiya would eat the grass, but wasn't eating it fast enough and all these roots were spreading into the water part of the dish. Really really gross.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 6:16 pm
I hope we can keep the compounding pharmacies alive. What I was giving, prednisolone, is said to be so bitter that it is a really hard flavor to mask. And Angelina just adored the triple fish flavor (they had a bunch of other flavors but said this seemed to be themost popular and it was endorsed by my vet's kitty too.
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Lakecat
Member
10-01-2006
| Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 6:58 am
Serate I have a drinking fountain and it broke after two months.It also was very noisey. Oh my Id hate not to be able to get compounded meds for my cats. my cats thyroid med is compounded to transdermal,Ive also compounded pills to fish flavored liquid.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 1:43 pm
I have a drinking fountain for the cats as well. it is called 'the bathtub!' Whiskers likes to sit in the tub and drink out of the running drips LOL
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 2:12 pm
Sun, update on the bunnies??
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 5:29 pm
Thx for asking last night I went out about 1am and saw Mother Rabbit on the other side of the driveway opposite the den. I looked in and saw the four babies were all bundled up in fresh hair and were quiet(no squeeking and leaping around) so I knew they'd been fed. Kept murdering cats in last night Hoping that Mom rabbit would move her surviving babies. This am went out to check den, one of the wounded babies died during the night and the other three live Bunnies have been MOVED!! hurray! Let whiskers out and he wandered immediately to the den. Got bored and decided he wanted back in the house within half hour. I am sure I'll not be too happy with bunnies eating my garden but I'm glad that i didnt have to worry about Mom abandoning them. Blood was everywhere around the den. I am really surprised some other predator didnt get them during the night. Maybe my human scent scared em off LOL
Off of my shoes I mean. I didnt rub my armpit on the tree or anything primitive like that ha ha
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 8:13 am
Picture taken using my new smartphone...

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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 8:21 am
Oh those are beauties, Prisoner. I just adore black kitties.
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