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Spangs
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10-07-2005

Friday, November 17, 2006 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spangs a private message Print Post    
Anyone interested in seeing an elaborate example of blackface can rent D.W. Griffith's Birth Of A Nation.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

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No thanks Spangs, first time I saw it was one too many times.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

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Rhythm-and-Blues Singer Ruth Brown Dies WashPost
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Ruth Brown, 78, a rhythm-and-blues singer whose hits in the 1950s made Atlantic Records "the house that Ruth built" and who revived her career decades later as the Tony Award-winning star of the musical revue "Black and Blue," died Nov. 17 at St. Rose Dominican Hospital in Henderson, Nev., after a stroke and heart attack.

Ms. Brown, who lived in the Las Vegas suburb, became known as a persistent and vital activist in the royalty reform movement of the 1980s. Her efforts brought aging, often ailing musicians payments that major music companies had long denied them.

With an aching, gospel-tinged attack to a lyric, Ms. Brown was among the top black pop singers of the early 1950s. Many of her recordings topped the R&B music charts, including the rollicking "(Mama) He Treats Your Daughter Mean" and the ballad "So Long." Her other popular recordings were "Teardrops From My Eyes," "Lucky Lips," "5-10-15 Hours (Of Your Love)," "Mambo Baby" and "Oh What a Dream."

Her admirers spanned several generations. Little Richard once said he borrowed his trademark whoop ("Lucille- uh") from her. Bonnie Raitt, with whom Ms. Brown played in recent years, also cited her as a musical influence. [...]

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, November 17, 2006 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Remember that horrible incident with Ted Danson at the Whoopie roast? To this day I will never understand what he was thinking!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, November 17, 2006 - 7:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Ugh. I had forgotten that one. Wasn't he in a relationship with Whoopie at the time? Wasn't it rumored that she wrote it and found it funny?

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, November 17, 2006 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Oh wow bout Ruth Brown.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Friday, November 17, 2006 - 8:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I remember that Danson thing. Yeah, it was Whoopi's idea. What was she thinking??

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

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Students Propose Renaming Westside H.S.
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POSTED: 10:45 pm EST November 16, 2006

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- A group of sociology students from Florida Community College-Jacksonville wants to change a piece of history.

The students said they are prepared to present a proposal to rename a high school currently named for a founder of the Ku-Klux Klan.

Nathan B. Forrest High School is located on the Westside just off 103rd Street near Interstate 295. For nearly 50 years, the school's name has remained the same, despite previous proposals for change.

Forrest was a Confederate general in the Civil War and the first grand wizard of the KKK.

The FCCJ college students said some things have changed significantly since the 1950s when the school was named, citing as the main change the racial makeup of the school, which is now predominately African-American.

"Why honor someone who founded the Ku Klux Klan?" said FCCJ professor Steven Stoll.

He said his students were stunned when they learned a Jacksonville high school was named after Forrest and that they plan to take action in front of the school board.

"There wouldn't be an Adolf Hitler High School in Brooklyn. That's really what we're talking about. We're talking about somebody who was very, very racist," Stoll said.

School board member and former Mayor Tommy Hazouri said the school's name was a community issue.

He said the controversy has come up from time to time in the past, but nothing has come of it. If the community were to come out in full force, the school board would listen, Hazouri said.

"If I were doing it today, and I were out there, I wouldn't like to have the school named after him. It's a tradition now. It's been built since 1958. A lot of people probably don't even know there's a background, anymore, with the Confederate soldier. I think more importantly is it's become a tradition," said Hazouri.

Some students who attend the high school said they thought the school's name was a big deal, while others said it did not bother them.

"We read a book about it. He was KKK people. It's kind of racism to me, N.B. Forrest -- that's like a rebel thing," said one high school student.

"It doesn't bother anyone. It's the name of the school that's been here for years, and nobody has really talked about it," said another Forrest student.

The FCCJ students are expected to present their proposal to the school board within a couple of weeks.

Channel 4's Adam Landau reported changing the school's name would be a long process, but that in the end the school board could vote on it.

The college students said they would like the high school to be renamed after Eartha White, a longtime Jacksonville philanthropist.

SURVEY
Should Nathan B. Forrest High School be renamed? [read story]
1. Keep the name. The school's tradition is now more important than the historical figure it is named for.
2. The name is a relic of a racist past and needs to be changed.
3. Only if the move to change the name comes from those who attend or work at the school.


what is really bugging me are the survey results. 67% of those that took the survey said to keep the name as is. I guess it's the same mentality that allows high schools to have the school song of Dixie}

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
and on to something that I'd much rather discuss:

N.C. school looks to distribute movie on first black Marines

By MARTHA WAGGONER : Associated Press Writer
Nov 15, 2006 : 6:51 pm ET

RALEIGH, N.C. -- The documentary on the nation's first black Marines is finished. Now its creators want to make sure the widest audience possible has a chance to see their film about the troops who overcame racism to fight for their country.

About 40 of those pioneering Marines attended a screening this week for "The Marines of Montford Point" at the University of North Carolina at Wilmington. The movie tells the story of the more than 20,000 black Marines who trained at Montford Point while white Marines trained at Parris Island, S.C.

"It is a deserving story that the American public needs to know," said Melton McLaurin, a former history professor at UNC-Wilmington who wrote and directed the movie. "When you meet these guys and talk with these guys, they are so wise and their stories are so poignant. They're just marvelous, marvelous human beings."

Actor Louis Gossett Jr., who won an Oscar for his role as a Marine drill instructor in 1982's "An Officer and a Gentleman," narrates the movie, saying that most of the Montford Point Marines "hoped for combat and the opportunity to prove they deserved to be Marines."

But most did not, and the Montford Point Marines believed their non-combat assignments were based on race. Some did eventually see combat, including at Iwo Jima.

The movie intersperses photos and films with recent interviews with the surviving Marines. Cpl. Archibald Mosley of Carbondale, Ill., recalls that the bullets weren't marked for white Marines or black Marines.

The bullets were addressed "to whomever they concern," he said. "And those bullets were just as much concerned to us as they were to everybody else."

The UNC-Wilmington Web site includes interviews with most of the 60 Marines interviewed for the project. Fred Ash, a retired master sergeant from Jacksonville who died in March 2005, said some white Marines referred to Montford Point as "Monkey Point."

When the Montford Point Marines were assigned jobs at Camp Lejeune, a Marine base in southeast North Carolina, they were not allowed to eat at the base. They had to return to their camp instead, Ash said. Montford Point, a part of Camp Lejeune, is now called Camp Johnson.

Now it's up to the university to market the 55-minute documentary. School officials are considering outlets including PBS, BET and The History Channel, said producer Dustin Miller, director of the media production department at UNC-Wilmington. The film also has been submitted to several film festivals, including Sundance and the Durham-based Full Frame Documentary Film Festival.

"We're taking a targeted approach to finding an audience for this," Miller said.

The story of the Montford Point Marines began in 1941, when President Franklin D. Roosevelt issued an executive order that required the military to accept all recruits regardless of race. Montford Point opened near Camp Lejeune the following year and trained black Marines until 1949, when all military enlistees began training together.

McLaurin knew of the Montford Point Marines through his work as a historian, then learned details from Clarence Willie, a retired Marine lieutenant colonel and former assistant school superintendent in Brunswick County. The two men interviewed more than 60 veterans for the project.

All the Montford Point Marines understood they were making history, that the future acceptance of blacks in the military depended on their performance, McLaurin said.

They represented "the American citizen's desire to be included in all aspects of the nation's activities and not be excluded because of a factor over which they had no control and which had absolutely nothing to do with their ability to serve," he said.

"For any group that is excluded for those reasons, I think what they did holds great relevance."

The film, a joint project of UNC-Wilmington and South Carolina State University, was financed by a $500,000 grant from the Department of Defense.

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Mocha
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08-12-2001

Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 7:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    

quote:

I think more importantly is it's become a tradition," said Hazouri.




Now this bothers me.

Oh I hope they show that film on BET and TVONE.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
There are a lot of bad "traditions". Keeping something simply because it is a tradition is not a good idea.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

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Coretta Scott King, MLK rest together

Sat Nov 18, 5:17 PM ET

ATLANTA - Ten months after her death, Coretta Scott King is in her final resting place next to her husband, slain civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr.

The single crypt that had housed Martin Luther King Jr.'s body at the grounds of the King Center for Nonviolent Social Change has been replaced by a larger one, and Coretta Scott King's body has been moved to it from a temporary grave.

The new grave site is slated to open Monday.

Coretta Scott King, 78, died Jan. 30 of complications from a stroke and ovarian cancer.

This is technically the third grave for Martin Luther King Jr., who was assassinated in Memphis in 1968.

He was initially buried at South-View Cemetery in Atlanta near the graves of his parents and maternal grandparents. When Coretta Scott King built the King Center, she moved her husband's body to the grounds next to Ebenezer Baptist Church, where he preached.

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Mocha
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08-12-2001

Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Oh good.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Michael Richards has racial outburst at club
Former 'Seinfeld' actor shouts epithets at hecklers during comedy show

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED NOVEMBER 20, 2006, 11:10 AM EST

LOS ANGELES // Michael Richards stunned a comedy club audience, shouting racial epithets at people who heckled him during a stand-up routine.

The 57-year-old actor-comedian, best known for playing Jerry Seinfeld's eccentric neighbor Kramer on the hit TV show "Seinfeld," was performing at the Laugh Factory in West Hollywood Friday night when he launched into the verbal rampage, according to video posted on TMZ.com.

The tirade apparently began after two black audience members started shouting at him that he wasn't funny.

Richards retorted: "Shut up! Fifty years ago we'd have you upside down with a f------ fork up your a--."

He then paced across the stage taunting the men for interrupting his show, peppering his speech with racial slurs and profanities.

"You can talk, you can talk, you're brave now mother------. Throw his a-- out. He's a n-----!" Richards shouts before repeating the racial epithet over and over again.

While there is some audible chuckling in the audience throughout the outburst, someone can be heard gasping "Oh my God" and various people "0oh" after Richard uses the n-word.

Richards performed the next night at the Laugh Factory without incident.

Calls to Richards' representatives were not immediately returned early Monday.

He refused to comment on-camera when reached by CNN, but the network reported that he said off-camera he felt sorry for what had happened and had made amends.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/news/bal-artslife-richards1120,0,2560828.story?coll=bal-entertainment-headlines

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I am just shocked and apalled.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Do I sense an upcoming announcement for checking himself in for substance abuse. Which will it be? Alcohol? prescription pain killers?

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Probably all 3.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

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I saw that article earlier today (via Sucks) and was compelled to watch the video. There is something seriously wrong with him! I was glad to hear the crowd's disgust with him and to read that many of them got up and left.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Check yourself in for rehab, Richards, but it won't change the core of you. I had NO idea he was such a jerk!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
and laugh factory let him come back the next night?

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
That's what shocked me. I can't believe they let him come back.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
http://www.tmz.com/2006/11/20/kramers-racist-tirade-caught-on-tape

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Lynching and the n-word. Seinfeld was one of my fav shows and Kramer was a fav character. Guess that's what he was just a character. Not sure if I can still watch the reruns and still laugh.

Retired
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07-11-2001

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 11:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Retired a private message Print Post    
SMH

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, November 20, 2006 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That is absolutely mind boggling and disgusting. I assume that will totally kill his career?

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

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Jimmer, Sadly...probably not.