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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, March 19, 2007 - 7:37 am
Wow I would love to see it if it is shown up here.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Monday, March 19, 2007 - 8:25 am
Dang. You'd think they would show it on BET.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Monday, March 19, 2007 - 8:26 am
I'd love to see it again.
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Monday, March 19, 2007 - 9:33 am
Maybe a few letters to BET would help get it aired there? I'd love to see it, since I wasn't able to the first time. Shoot, I still had just a B&W tv back then and was raising kids alone.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Monday, March 19, 2007 - 12:51 pm
TVONE is a black folks' channel? Well, then I know I won't get it up here. There are only 3 black folks living up here. Okay, thirty. Okay, maybe more. But there are more native Americans than African Americans. Mocha, what is a DVD collection? I just got my first CD last summer. I am not due to get any DVD's until maybe twenty years from now. I am a Luddite.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Monday, March 19, 2007 - 12:56 pm
Lol Zuzu!!
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, March 19, 2007 - 12:59 pm
We get TVOne on my cable system here in Vancouver. And BET. And if TVOne has the rights to Roots, I'm sure BET won't be able to get them for a while.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, March 19, 2007 - 2:23 pm
you get tvone in Vancouver? oh man ... I was told that the demographics didn't demonstrate a need for that channel on my cable network ... I'm moving, that's it ... LOL ...
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, March 19, 2007 - 2:33 pm
Yes, I do. I'm not sure if all cable systems here get it, but mine does. And I can say that the "demographics" don't necessarily match, but people still watch LOL.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Monday, March 19, 2007 - 2:54 pm
lol
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Monday, March 19, 2007 - 7:20 pm
Wow, its hard to believe its been that long ago! I loved it. Didn't miss a single night of it.
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 8:22 am
Juju, wouldn't that make you a Neo-Luddite?
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 4:50 pm
Richmond, VA unveils slavery memorial By DIONNE WALKER The city's slavery memorial debuted beneath flags from Virginia and Africa in a tearful ceremony Friday, another step in the state's recent effort in acknowledging history to soothe slavery's hurt. A triangle of roughhewn benches resembling ship planks encircles a 13-foot bronze sculpture of two figures hugging. Nearby, a deck spans a rippling fountain, symbolizing the treacherous Atlantic crossing made by so many Africans. Matching statues have been placed in Liverpool, England, where empty slave ships set sail, and in the west African country of Benin, where slaves were captured. "Virginia was not an innocent bystander in the matter of slavery," Gov. Timothy M. Kaine told a multiracial crowd gathered at the memorial, along a busy corner in downtown Richmond. "Some expression of apology or regret is ... natural." Increasingly, the state has turned to icons, legislation and revised history texts to cope with slavery's legacy. In February, lawmakers passed a resolution expressing "profound regret" for Virginia's role in slavery, which included exporting slaves to cotton-rich states along the Mississippi River once its fields dried out. Maryland passed a similar resolution, while Congress and lawmakers in Georgia and Missouri are debating similar measures. Richmond Mayor and former Virginia Gov. L. Douglas Wilder - the grandson of slaves - is leading efforts to build a national slavery museum amid the Civil War battlefields of Fredericksburg. At Jamestown, where the first Africans landed in 1619, organizers of a 400th anniversary commemoration of the first permanent English settlement have highlighted the role of blacks. In predominantly black Richmond, where towering monuments honor Southern heroes such as Gen. Robert E. Lee, officials have christened a slave walking trail and are considering a less divisive name for the Museum of the Confederacy. "We're beginning to acknowledge," said Delores McQuinn, who led construction of the memorial through the Richmond Slave Trail Commission. "That gain speaks volumes to where we're going."
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 4:56 pm
First black West Point graduate honored By JOHN MILBURN Associated Press Writer © 2007 The Associated Press FORT LEAVENWORTH, Kan. — Henry O. Flipper stoically endured hate and harassment to become the first black graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, only to be drummed out of the Army after white officers accused him of embezzlement. He didn't see his name cleared in his lifetime, but the Army took another step in honoring his legacy Friday with the dedication of a bust of him at the Buffalo Soldier Monument at Fort Leavenworth. Because of rain, the ceremony was moved inside and only photographs of the bust were shown, although family members later went to view the memorial. Carla Flipper, his great grandniece, stroked the face of the bust, sheltered by a tent from the rain. A concrete pedestal chronicles his military and civilian careers. "I'm very proud of him and admire him for all of his perseverance and the legacy that he left for us," she said. "His work truly shows a man who was truly blessed and wanted to serve his country." She said his courage and strength came from his parents, an inspiration generations later. Born a slave in Thomasville, Ga., in 1856, Flipper was not the first black at West Point, but he was the first to endure four years of hardships and receive his commission. He graduated in 1877, just 12 years after the Civil War. "Besides having a strong academic background, someone of obvious academic talents, he was a very stoic individual," historian Steve Grove said. "He didn't hit back. Flipper would just bear it." Grove said Flipper wrote in his autobiography that he "was above that kind of behavior." Despite public ridicule and harassment from white cadets, Flipper was known to tutor whites in private to help them with their studies. "He was an amazing individual. It was amazing how mature he was," Grove said. Flipper served at various Southwest posts as a scout, an engineer surveyor and construction supervisor, post adjutant, acting assistant and post quartermaster and commissary officer. At Fort Davis, Texas, in 1881, Flipper's career took a dire turn when his commander accused him of embezzling $3,792 from commissary funds. Flipper initially discovered the funds missing from his custody and concealed their disappearance from superiors, hoping the money would return. He was court-martialed, acquitted of embezzlement but convicted of conduct unbecoming an officer, and dishonorably discharged. He would later write in a letter to a congressman that the crime "of being a Negro was, in my case, more heinous than deceiving a commanding officer." Flipper went on to a successful civilian career as an engineer and expert in Spanish and Mexican land law, wrote several books and worked as a special assistant to the U.S. interior secretary. He spent decades trying to clear his name, and his family continued the fight after his death in 1940. In 1976, an Army board commuted Flipper's dismissal to a good conduct discharge, concluding that his conviction and punishment were "unduly harsh and unjust." In 1999, President Clinton granted him a full pardon. Lt. Gen. Franklin Hagenbeck, superintendent at West Point, said the academy has bestowed the Henry Flipper Award to graduates who overcome challenges for the past quarter-century.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 6:04 pm
I'd like to see the memorial. I tell ya it's amazing how we've endured.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 6:21 pm
I'd like to see it, too. I remember seeing the exhibit at the Natural History Museum in Chicago a few years ago ... very emotional ...
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 10:19 am
We stopped in at Fort Davis on the way back from Texas. It was where the 10th Cavalry, the Buffalo Soldiers, were stationed, and it was where Henry Flipper got done in. The national park service treats it as racism and as one of the most significant chapters of the history of Fort Davis. If you go to visit, stay at Indian Lodge in nearby Davis Mountains state park. The hotel was built by the Civilian Conservation Corps during the Depression, and is historically significant. Most of it has been restored but true to the original. The rooms are very nice, affordable, and the beds very comfortable. They say the restaurant sucks, so eat in town. We did.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 10:32 am
How far is it from my neck of the woods, Juju? Sounds like a worthwhile outing ...
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 10:56 am
I love Angela Bassett. Here's a nice little interview with her.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 2:27 pm
I love her too.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 9:16 pm
Ladytex, mapquest says 455 miles for you. That is quite a jaunt. But that whole part of Texas and then down to Big Bend was very interesting. The drive from Presidio, TX, along the Rio Grande east over to Big Bend is a real trip. There are 15 degree hills. It is like being in a roller coaster in your car with major scenery alongside the road.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, April 02, 2007 - 5:35 am
Thanks, Juju ... that will require some prior planning ...
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Monday, April 02, 2007 - 6:35 am
Road trip! 
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 10:06 am
Eddie Robinson dies
By MARY FOSTER, AP Sports Writer 24 minutes ago RUSTON, La. - Eddie Robinson, the longtime Grambling coach who transformed a small, black college into a football power that sent hundreds of players to the NFL, has died. He was 88. The soft-spoken coach spent nearly 60 years at Grambling State University, where he set a standard for victories with 408 and nearly every season relished seeing his top players drafted by NFL teams. Doug Williams, a Super Bowl MVP quarterback was one of them. Williams said Robinson died shortly before midnight Tuesday. Robinson had been admitted to Lincoln General Hospital earlier in the day. "For the Grambling family this is a very emotional time," Williams said Wednesday. "But I'm thinking about Eddie Robinson the man, not in today-time, but in the day and what he meant to me and to so many people." Robinson's career spanned 11 presidents, several wars and the civil rights movement. His overall record of excellence is what will be remembered: In 57 years, Robinson compiled a 408-165-15 record. Until John Gagliardi of St. John's, Minn., topped the victory mark four years ago, Robinson was the winningest coach in all of college football. "The real record I have set for over 50 years is the fact that I have had one job and one wife," Robinson said. Robinson had been suffering from Alzheimer's disease, which was diagnosed shortly after he was forced to retire following the 1997 season. His health had been declining for years and he had been in and out of a nursing home during the past year. Robinson said he tried to coach each player as if he wanted him to marry his daughter. He began coaching at Grambling State in 1941, when it was still the Louisiana Negro Normal and Industrial Institute, and single-handedly brought the school from obscurity to international popularity. "Coach Robinson elevated a small town program to national prominence and tore down barriers to achieve an equal playing field for athletes of all races," Gov. Kathleen Blanco said in a statement. "Generations of Louisianans will forever benefit from coach Robinson's fight for equality." Grambling first gained national attention in 1949 when running back Paul "Tank" Younger signed with the Los Angeles Rams and became the first player from an all-black college to enter the NFL. Suddenly, pro scouts learned how to find the little school 65 miles east of Shreveport near the Arkansas border. Robinson sent over 200 players to the NFL, including seven first-round draft choices and Williams, who succeeded Robinson as Grambling's coach in 1998. Others went to the Canadian Football League and the now-defunct USFL. Robinson's pro stars included Willie Davis, James Harris, Ernie Ladd, Buck Buchanan, Sammy White, Cliff McNeil, Willie Brown, Roosevelt Taylor, Charlie Joiner and Willie Williams. Jerry Izenberg, the sports columnist emeritus at the Star-Ledger of Newark and a close friend of Robinson since 1963, said the coach was an inspiration in the deep South. "People look at black pride in America and sports' impact on it," Izenberg said. "In the major cities it took off the first time Jackie Robinson stole home. In the deep South, it started with Eddie Robinson, who took a small college in northern Louisiana with little or no funds and sent the first black to the pros and made everyone look at him and Grambling." Robinson said he was inspired to become a football coach when a high school team visited the elementary school he attended. "The other kids wanted to be players, but I wanted to be like that coach," Robinson said. "I liked the way he talked to the team, the way he could make us laugh. I liked the way they all respected him." Robinson was forced to retire after the 1997 season, after the program fell on tough times. His final three years on the sidelines brought consecutive losing seasons for the first time, an NCAA investigation of recruiting violations and four players charged with rape. "I don't think coach lost touch with the players, I think the players lost touch with him," former NFL and Grambling cornerback Everson Walls said. "I think the young guys lost touch with coach Rob's vision. They didn't appreciate that they were living history with him." As pressure mounted for him to step aside, even then-Gov. Mike Foster campaigned to give him one last season so he could try to go out a winner. But that final season produced only three wins for the second straight year. Robinson's teams had only eight losing seasons and won 17 Southwestern Athletic Conference titles and nine national black college championships. He was inducted into every hall of fame for which he was eligible, and received honorary degrees from several universities, including Yale. In 1968, refusing to be tied to a tiny home stadium on a hard-to-reach campus, Robinson put Grambling's football show on the road, playing at some very famous addresses, including Yankee Stadium. That same year, Howard Cosell and Izenberg produced the documentary, "Grambling College: 100 Yards to Glory," Robinson became vice president of the NAIA and all three major television networks carried special programming on Grambling football. A year later, Grambling played before 277,209 paying customers in 11 games, despite the home field that seated just 13,000. When he began his career, Robinson had no paid assistants, no groundskeepers, no trainers and little in the way of equipment. He had to line the field himself and fix lunchmeat sandwiches for road trips because the players could not eat in the "white only" restaurants of the South. He was not bitter, however. "The best way to enjoy life in America is to first be an American, and I don't think you have to be white to do so," Robinson said. "Blacks have had a hard time, but not many Americans haven't." Robinson is survived by his wife, son Eddie Robinson Jr., daughter Lillian Rose Robinson, five grandchildren and four great-grandchildren. This makes me really sad ... he was living history 
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, April 06, 2007 - 3:23 pm
I am totally put out by this crap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNExi1puzz0
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