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Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
ETA
Nash scored two goals tonight against Carolina. Go, Mingo, Go!
As to the Zherdev thing, he has personality issues...I'm the best, I'll carry the puck from end to end with no pass. Granted, he was better last year. And his stickwork - wow.
Rosters go out in October. It'll be interesting who makes the cut.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Monday, September 25, 2006 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Well, I for one, can't believe we let Anson Carter go. He wasn't all that impressive when we first got him (IMO) but he worked so well with the Sedin twins, they were our top scoring line all year. Oh well.....

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Monday, September 25, 2006 - 11:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
I agree Cinnamongirl. Chemistry is so important. Anson Carter worked great with the twins. Why mess up a line that works? With the loss of Bertucci, I was surprised that the Canucks let Carter go. I am hearing some talk of Marcus Naslund playing on that line now. Now you have all your eggs in one basket. I'm not sure how that would work out.

The Red Wings have a real dilemma on their hands as well. The amazing Pavel Datsyuk has always had a large capable veteran on his line. First Brett Hull, then Shanahan. Now they have to figure out who plays in that spot.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Monday, September 25, 2006 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Yeah, I hear ya. Don't mess with chemistry.

And as sad as I am to see Bertuzzi go, he had to. His line with Markus just wasn't cutting it anymore. He lost his mojo bigtime!... so I guess it will be nice to see Markus with the twins. I just have to hope the higher-ups know what the heck they're doing....



Karen
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09-07-2004

Monday, September 25, 2006 - 12:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
I think Bertuzzi was highly overrated. Good riddance to him, IMO. (and no, this has nothing to do with the Steve Moore incident... I'm on Bert's side on that one.) I just wasnt' much a Bert fan to begin with, and you're right, he came off that public incident lacking his mojo.

I liked Carter and what he did for the Canucks last year. The Sedin sisters are growing as players and Anson was a nice addition to that line. I am a bit biased, I try really hard to be a Canucks fan but the Vancouver fans drive me crazy with all their bandwagoning and I have a hard time liking the team because of the fans. Very excited about seeing Luongo in net -- Cloutier was right up there with Bert in my books of people who had to go. But looking at the new faces this year, and with Crawford gone as well (hooray!) I may just be able to enjoy cheering for them this year.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Monday, September 25, 2006 - 1:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Wow, and I get a whole different impression of Vancouver fans, I feel we are pretty damn loyal even in the crappy years...and theres been plenty of those. Every team has bandwagoners....maybe we just have a few more than average

Karen
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09-07-2004

Monday, September 25, 2006 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
I hear you, Cinnamongirl... all teams do have bandwagoners, for sure. I think Cloutier was the biggest example of the fans hopping on the 'Nucks bandwagon. If he had a crappy game, the fans would tell you the whole team sucked, because of his performance. But if/when he had a good game, ooh boy, look out. The 'Nucks were on FIRE and Cloutier was the star player.

See, me... I'm a BC girl born and raised. My BF is from Ontario and has cheered for the Leafs for as long as he can remember. It's the passion of the Leafs' fans that finally pulled me over to their side... they haven't even come close to the cup in thirty years, and still, the blue-and-white Leafs Nation follows the team everywhere they go. We went to the Van/Toronto game here last year and the crowd was an even 50/50 split. Now THAT's some loyal fans.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Monday, September 25, 2006 - 2:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
YES...You're absolutely right about Cloutier!! That was pretty sad, hopefully the outlook is better for Luongo.....


All I can say is we have far too many Leaf fans living in Vancouver

Donners
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09-15-2006

Monday, September 25, 2006 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Donners a private message Print Post    
Hi, Leaf fan in Vancouver - line one, you're on.

I am the aforementioned BF from Ontario, please don't hate me. I've liked the Leafs through all of the worst years, blindly cheering for them in the face of great adversity. What can I say? It's been what I've done since before I remember doing it. But living in Vancouver, I've naturally got that urge to cheer for the home team, and have begun to do so (as long as they're not playing the Leafs). But boy, was last year hard to be a Canuck fan. The only problem was that I didn't want to be a part of that club.

The problem with the fans goes way beyond all the Leaf-bashing that normally happens in any Canadian city. Leaf Nation is coast-to-coast and a lot of other teams' fans get bothered by that. I get that. That's fine. I welcome the banter, it comes with the territory. But then I hear of my Flames' friends' stories that echo my own experience with the 'Nucks fans. "Flames go home!" "Flames suck!", etc. Then I hear the same coming from my friends that are Habs fans (yes, much like cats and dogs, Habs fans and Leaf fans can indeed get along without killing each other). And after talking to my hockey buddies, not only do I see that it's true for every other Canadian team's fanbase, but that Canuck fans are proud of it. They love to hate everyone else, I swear.

There's even a Canucks ad on BC stations right now where they show some chick saying "Ever since I was a kid, I've always known that everything east of the mountains was the enemy", with lovely inspiring music playing during the heartfelt call-to-arms-montage that is this season's TV ad for the Canucks.

At the Leafs/Canucks game last year, there were two distinct cheering sections. One was saying "GO LEAFS GO!", the other was saying "LEAFS SUCK!". I wouldn't have had a problem with them if I had heard them cheering for their own team, instead of bashing the other one. And the looks of hatred some of the guys gave me...not to mention the mayhem that erupted in the mens room after the game! I felt lucky to get out of there without a fight breaking out.

I'm going to try to cheer for them again this year, and much of it is because Bert and Jovo and Cloutier and Crawford are gone. I'm looking forward to the new Canucks - but yes - getting rid of Anson Carter was, IMO a huge mistake. That was a solid line that worked well and grew together well - he would have rocked that again this year. That's too bad.

GO LEAFS GO!

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Monday, September 25, 2006 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I like players more than teams. I guess that's why I suck at hockey pools, because I cheer for likeable players (doesn't mean they are good). LOL

I'm weird. I liked Bertuzzi and Cloutier. Firstly because I found them both VERY VERY sexy, but then again I like hairy guys.

I feel bad for Bertuzzi right now, as the Canucks only stood by him as long as he played for them, and once he was traded, they take no responsibility for his actions. I think that is disgusting. Personally, I was always on Bert's side, and didn't think his hit on Moore was meant to hurt the guy. But that's over with. I just think it sucks that the Canucks are now blaming only him for the hit, when it was a pack mentality.

I liked Cloutier, but he was injury prone, and that's too bad.

I HATE Naslund. I thought/think he is a HORRIBLE captain. He was no leader, except in talent, and I don't even think he has that. I wish they would have traded him, and kept Bert and Jovo.

But then again, I hate the Canucks in general, for the same reason of the fans. Nobody here is a REAL fan. Most Vancouverites are fairweather fans of EVERYTHING. They only buy whatever is "the Hot Ticket", but have no knowledge or allegiance to any team or singer or talent act. I hate it here for that reason.

I like Toronto, and I've liked Detroit when it had all the old-timers on it, and Scotty was the coach. Love Bowman!!! I'm also sad Tie Domi is gone. He used to come into the restaurant I worked at when I lived in Winnipeg and he played for the Jets. He's such a bugger, and I love that.

I really like many of the "goons" of hockey. I liked Brashear too. The more mischievous, the better.

I'm not sure who I'll cheer for this year. I don't really care much. Maybe Phoenix, because they are the old Winnipeg Jets, and you can't help but love Gretzky. You almost want to see him be as god a coach as he was a player. We'll see.

Anyways, I've enjoyed all of your posts!!

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 4:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
I don't like Gretzky as a coach. First of all, this is the national hockey league, the best of the best, the top. For Wayne Gretzky to step into a head coaching position, without ever having coached any team any where ever and expect to be successful is the highest form of arrogance. Just because you can play, doesn't mean you can coach. It's a different job and takes different skills.

Secondly, Gretzky is very loyal to his friends. Great thing to have in a friend, not so great to have in a head coach. I don't think Phoenix will do any better this year than they did last year.

I liked Cloutier, but he was so doggone injury prone. I never liked Bertucci, and I'm glad to see the goons gone. All of them. I prefer the yappers. They are much more entertaining and animated and nobody gets seriously hurt.

I can't wait for the season to begin. I think the Rangers are looking good. I think they did the best in the off season to improve themselves. They are probably my second favorite team after the Red Wings.

Tampa Bay seems to be getting their act back together. Lecavalier and St. Louis seem to be getting their mojo back.

I am so not a Leafs fan. The get all the press...much of it undeserved. Much ado about nothing...for years. I never pick any Leafs players for my fantasy team.

I like Buffalo. They're hard working, well coached, and tough to beat. I like Nashville for the same reason.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
I'm going to try to cheer for them again this year


Well we should be so lucky........

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Nobody here is a REAL fan

Nice...

Karen
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09-07-2004

Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
I see that you are in BC, Cinnamongirl, but do you actually live IN Vancouver? Eeyore is absolutely right in her statement that everyone in Vancouver is a fariweather fan of everything. If it's cool now, I'm in. But if noone else is doing it, no way you'll catch me doing it. I actually laughed out loud when I read that last night, because it rings so true.

Of course, based on your responses, it's obvious that you are in fact a true blooded Canucks fan, and that's fantastic. I think Donners and Eeyore were only trying to point out that the true fans, here in Vancouver, are few and far between. And, for a Leafs' fan to say that he's "going to try" to cheer for them... yes, actually, you should be so lucky. They don't usually change their stripes, those in the Leafs Nation. LOL.

Tigerfan
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11-06-2003

Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 12:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tigerfan a private message Print Post    
Marysafan, we couldn't agree more with you!! As much as we love our Coyotes, we're not thrilled with Gretzky being the coach. If we had to say something positive him it would be that players are lining up around the block to get a chance to play for him. Several of our new recruits admitted as much. That being said, bring on the Hockey!!

Go 'Yotes !!

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
And, for a Leafs' fan to say that he's "going to try" to cheer for them... yes, actually, you should be so lucky.

Thanks for the laugh. really.

<55>
I'm with you Tiger...bring on the Hockey!!

Donners
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09-15-2006

Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Donners a private message Print Post    
I must be one of those bandwagon jumpers because all of a sudden I don't feel like cheering for the Canucks now. Thanks for helping me prove my point, Cinn.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
If you haven't finished picking your fantasy players yet, it was in the local paper that Zherdev signed a 3-year $7 million contract with the Jackets.
I'm not sure how I feel about that...see earlier post.
Kinda off topic, but I've never done the fantasy team thing. How does it usually work? Am I the GM/President and draft and pay and trade? TIA

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
Hmm...Thanks Blujaxrock! Our draft is later today! Just in the nick of time! (I've got Nash ranked pretty high. I've got my fingers crossed...but if I can't get him...perhaps Zherdev will do for a later pick.)

I will be glad when we are all set. It's driving me nuts. Everytime I hear there's an injury like "Shanahan isn't playing tonight because he tweaked a groin muscle." I'm like "DEFINE TWEAK!"

Last year I had three goalies all go down in same week so I'm a little skittish. The good news was that I ended up getting Henrik Lundquist as a result, so I looked like a freaking genius!

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 3:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Mary, I was reading an article on Steve Yzerman. Wow, what an impressive career he's had with the Wings & how lucky you are to still have him with the team.

http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/michigan/index.ssf?/base/sports-19/1159197841152450.xml&storylist=michigansports

And that got me to thinking that I hope some day Trevor Linden will be doing the same with the Canucks. He is my favourite hockey player by far, and not just for what he brings to the ice (which, lets face it, hes not one of the best players anymore) but off ice even more-so. Hes won several awards along the way for his leadership role and off-ice compassion & humanitarian contributions. Hes been a Canuck for as long as I can remember (okay, apart from that unfortunate time when he was traded away...but lets not go there) He was a great team captain too and he still to this day gives the team a great morale boost. On his days off though, you're more likely to catch him at Vancouvers Childrens Hospital than on the golf course.
My BF's son was diagnosed with bone cancer a few years back and has spent many many long days & nights at the hospital but kept missing Trevor until this past spring. He was beyond excited and could barely talk when Trevor asked him who his favourite team was....The Canucks he answered..and Trevor said..You don't have to say that just because I'm here... Well they are but my other favourite team is The Senators. Good, good, they're a great team Trevor replied. Another question to my little friend...Whos your favourite player?.... well You are Trevor....no, no, really you don't have to say that...No really, you are, I even did a school report on you last year....(hehe soooo cute!!) Trevor was just so humble and treated them like royalty. Hes a special guy that does alot of great work in the community along with on the ice....whew..

Didn't mean to get so long winded....just got carried away. LOL

Karen
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09-07-2004

Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 4:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
As much as I may find it difficult to cheer for the 'Nucks at times when they're ON the ice, there's no denying all the greatness they do for the city of Vancouver when they're OFF the ice. Sure, some could argue that much of their volunteer work is probably contractual, but you know that so many of those guys go above and beyond their contract obligations time and time and time again, for little tikes like your BF's son, and others. Is your little one doing better now, Cinnamon?

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 5:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
well mybad, I meant Best Friend...not BoyFriend..

And yes, hes in remission for his cancer but has had ongoing complications from the surgery and bone replacement that hes had..at times it seems neverending but it could be worse..

thanks for asking.

Karen
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09-07-2004

Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
BEST friend, BOYfriend... when you're talking about a child with cancer, doesn't really make a difference, it still breaks your heart to hear. Nice to hear he got to meet one of his heroes. When my baby sis spent a few months at BC Childrens, all she got to meet were the Grizzlies. (Who?? lol).

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
<--- loves Mike Bibby

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Friday, September 29, 2006 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
I really get upset with NASCAR folks who think NASCAR drivers have the market cornered on charity. I have heard numerous stories about some of the things hockey players have done, and would put them right up there with anyone.

The last time the Red Wings won the cup, Darren Pang came to spend time with his long time best friend Stevie Yzerman. It was Stevie's time to have the cup and big doings were planned for that afternoon. Stevie and Darren were alone having a cup of coffee that morning, when Darren asked what Stevie would like to do. Stevie said, "I don't know...let me make some phone calls."

When he came back, he told Darren to grab his coat, they were going to go see "some kids". Stevie grabbed the cup, they hopped in the car and took off and went to the hospital unannounced but approved, to share the cup with the kids. I know bunches of those kinds of stories. For the most part, they are really good guys. Not perfect...but darn good.