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Mictay
Member
09-29-2006
| Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 8:01 am
HKS is not the only one who did nothing,And we don't know how much of what LB said is true,just because someone say's something doesn't make it true.I think someone else said it before me but why didn't he go to the doctors or nurses in the hospital or child protective services,I think LB had many options but chose not to do anything,If he thought all along he was the father why he sat back and did nothing.Everyone involved had equal blame I think,I do think LB is the father and has A right to know.I have to wander,what in the world is going to happen when and if neither LB or HKS is the father.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 9:48 am
we do have to wonder why Anna would continue to pay for Howard's expense while she was in relationships with other men. perhaps she did want him around her in some capacity. anna pursued moving to the Bahamas so she could avoid paternity testing. i don't think anna was such the naive victim.
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 10:41 am
Neither do I Texannie. This was all pre planned, Howard did the legal footwork, but, this was pre meditated. He did not want to be thrown out of the entourage, so, he did as she wished. Just like Elvis.
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Sugar
Member
08-15-2000
| Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 11:10 pm
I don't really understand why so many people seem to think Larry is the "good" guy. I think many people around ANS did nothing to help her. Don't all 12 step type programs insist that a person has to want help in order to change? Perhaps ANS was not at such a stage. I think Howard does care for and love ANS, whether it is in a "typical" or traditional fashion. I believe he cares for the baby as well, be he the biological father or not. I always had the impression that Larry was the Kato Kaylin of this story. ANS's mother appears to be the true villan of this piece IMO. Should she ever be allowed to be buried, ANS will turn over in her grave if not rise on out should her <100> mother be given the baby.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, February 26, 2007 - 3:35 am
It isn't a case of good and bad. Someone is the father of this baby. Unless that man is unfit, that is where the child should go. There are millions of good men but that doesn't mean you just hand them a baby.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Monday, February 26, 2007 - 9:16 am
I am rooting for Larry since he's been claiming paternity since she announced the pregnancy. And the baby looks like him, and its obviously suspicious how Howard is not willing to ante-up a DNA sample. Howard is either Machiavellian or pathetic. Not sure which at this point. It does creep me out that Larry aligned with ANS's horrible excuse for a mother, tho. As for who'd be the better dad... lawyer vs paparazzi photographer... Howard comes out on top, it just looks better on paper, is all. But that's not in any way to say the baby would have a better quality of life with Howard over Larry. Larry strikes me as more sincere.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Monday, February 26, 2007 - 9:20 am
I dont know anything about these people personally but from what I read, Howard, an officer of the court, was feeding ANS drugs, destroyed evidence whenher son died of an overdose and is the poorest excuse for a lawyer I have seen since Marcia Clark. I think Larry Birkhead believes he is the father and Howard, at the very least, suspects he is not. I am sure that Howard is the one investigated paternity issues and found that the Bahamas was the best place for ANS to deliver and skirt around US laws. He is living in a house that basically is stolen -- really who believes that someone gives a mansion to someone else??? I think everyone wants their hands on that baby because she is their free ride. That is sad.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, February 26, 2007 - 9:29 am
Mame, Larry is being kind to the mom, I wouldn't say he "aligned" with her. Even when the judge in the body custody hearing asked him where Anna should be buried, he said California or the Bahamas, but never mentioned Texas, which is where mom selfishly wants Anna buried. And at the end, he agreed with having her laid to rest in the Bahamas, by Daniel, while the mom is still fighting. So... it would be unfair to say he "aligned' with her. He quite clearly thinks independently. The thing about who should be the dad, it should be remembered that Anna had proceeded for the first 5 months or so of her pregnancy treating Larry as the dad. They went to doctors appts together, he bought her maternity clothes. It was when Larry kept taking stands against her irrationality that she dumped him, and then tried to claim he wasn't the dad. That's just plain wrong in my opinion. Then she tried to pin fatherhood on Ben Thompson, who declined, since he could not possibly be the dad, but who let her live in his house in the Bahamas, even giving her a deed apparently,altho it was never recorded. Since that "dad" didn't pan out, she turned to her lackey, HKS, who would do anything for her, because he always wanted her, tho she continually spurned him for other men. She just used him, and because he wanted so badly for that relationship, for whatever reason, he took it.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Monday, February 26, 2007 - 10:12 am
New news from court TV. Judge refused to stay his order as requested by Virgie Arthur. Appeal is being expedited. Thomson is filing eviction papers against Stern today in the Bahamas. Bahamas court says birth certificate is invalid since Stern did not sign it. A guardian has been appointed for Dannielynn. Stern though is still regarded as the father. Looks like they are paving the way to allow a paternity suit in the Bahamas. Stern apparently also has another property in the Bahamas.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Monday, February 26, 2007 - 10:21 am
Kar, thanks for the headsup about how tight (or not) the connection is between Larry and Virgie. I am back to (comfortably) totally rooting for him. LOL I do hope that if dna proves Larry's the dad, that along with celebrating any money that comes attached, he really will be thrilled to be a 100% involved, loving, caring daddy to this (his?) child. One thing does not preclude the other IMHO. It would be awful if nobody can be found to be the rightful father. I cannot imagine where this child would end up. What do you think would happen in that case? A generic foster home, or heaven forbid with Vergie? Is there an alternate answer regarding custodial options for this infant?
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Monday, February 26, 2007 - 10:23 am
In that case I think dannielynn would go to Stern since Anna Nicole said he is the father.But lets say the Bahamanian labs say Stern is the father, do you think that Birkhead will file for his own lab to do the evaluation.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Monday, February 26, 2007 - 10:24 am
Yup.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Monday, February 26, 2007 - 10:39 am
Larry Birkhead has arrived in court in the Bahamas. The guardianship hearing is taking place today in the Bahamas.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, February 26, 2007 - 10:51 am
Virgie has also applied for custody. The thing about the Bahamian courts is that they look heavily to who can best provide for the child as well. HKS has no income of his own. Larry relied heavily on photos of ANS, but at least he has income. Howard's attorney appeared on court tv, and continually hedged questions about whether HKS is actually the dad. He kept calling him the "presumptive" dad. Uh huh.
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 5:02 pm
TMZ has learned the negotiations between Howard K. Stern and Larry Birkhead now have nothing to do with little Dannielynn. It's all about money. Sources tell TMZ that Howard K. Stern has all but conceded that Larry Birkhead is the dad. Exhibit A: TMZ's story yesterday that Stern has already let Birkhead spend time with the baby. We're told Stern is willing to cooperate with paternity matters if the price is right. Specifically, sources say Stern has his eye on the Bahamian house Anna Nicole bought (not Horizons), and the boat she purchased just before her death. But that is not the end of Stern's financial wish list. Sources say he has set his sights on other assets as well. Under the will and the laws of inheritance, Dannielynn would get all her mom's assets. Nonetheless, we're told the house, the boat and other assets are being discussed. It is unclear how Stern might lay claim to the items in question. Nonetheless, we're told that's precisely what he wants. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. He just smells. From 3000 miles away, Howard K Sterns just smells.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 5:04 pm
I am with you on this one Sherbabe.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 5:21 pm
Birkhead cant give Annas assets away, all he can do is going along with not changing Smith as the executor of the will and give him trustee ship over the baby's money. If Birkhead lets Stern be in charge of that baby's money then the california sun fried his brain in addition to bleaching his hair. Not to mention reports that there is an investiation going on about ANS drug use. Apparently ANS obstetrician has been questioned about what pharmaceuticals ANS was on during her pregnancy.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 5:38 pm
And not only does Howard smell, but Virgie was only Larry's friend as long he did what she wanted as well. Once he agreed to having Anna buried in the Bahamas, Virgie did what she swore she was not interested in - she wants custody of Daniellynn. Like I said from the beginning, while none of these people are truly beautiful, the only one that's worthy of being Danni's dad is Larry Birkhead.
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Sheilaree
Member
07-19-2002
| Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 5:42 pm
Good of who every made Anna her own folder was smart. I agree with you Sherbabe Viegie wants $$$ too.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 5:47 pm
Is there a chance in heck that justice and common sense will prevail in the end? Sigh.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 5:59 pm
Originally Virgie was swearing that Larry was the dad. Now the story is she doesn't believe he's the father either. Her attorney, who keeps mispronouncing the word Bahama and thus drives me batty, talks about that country as if its from some mysterious dark age that was so much better than current times. 'The Baahaamamas recognizes mothers, and they are a very maternal society, they understand t hat the grandmother should raise up this baby.' <insert eye roll> Virgie wants the money. She's always wanted the money. She's just using people to get it. And we wonder where Anna learned to manipulate people?
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 8:22 pm
And why Anna hated her mother maybe? Greed is an ugly thing. If Vergie loved her child she would have let her be buried already.
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 9:54 pm
I have to think then when Daniellyn (sp) grows up and finds out that her grandma kept her mother on a cold slab for over a month,(maybe more) it will only make her hate her as well..It would be enough for me...
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Sheilaree
Member
07-19-2002
| Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 5:59 am
I agree Chewpito with you.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 9:13 am
The apellate court heard argument this morning on Seidlin's decision. They questioned Virgie's attorney hard on why they felt the funeral director statute applied - they didn't seem convinced. They also seemed to place a high value on the deceased's intent, which was clear. The tough questions they had for Milstein was what protection there was that the child's guardian would follow the deceased's intent, since the guardian had wide latittude. The response to that was that the guardian was still under direction of Seidlin, and should a motion be filed that the guardian was acting inappropriately, Seidlin could take action. They seemed to be worried that a precedent would be set that they were uncomfortable affirming. Interestingly enough, their last question of Milstein was the timing of plans that were already made, as if they wanted to be sure they ruled in accordance with that timing. Read into that what you will.....
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