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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, February 23, 2007 - 11:05 pm
A thread to discuss the ongoing Anna Nicole Smith story.
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 11:28 am
Thanks Jimmer! So, Vergie Arthur's attorneys filed one hour and thirty minutes before court closed on Friday. The judge was already gone for the day. One of her attorneys was on LKL last night, and stated that they would have a decision in two weeks. Two more weeks, at least, before ANS will be buried then. 
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 1:41 pm
Debra Opri, Larry's attorney, is filing kidnapping charges against HKS in the Bahamas.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 1:54 pm
I think they just said they would consider filing kidnapping charges if the Bahamian courts won't order DNA samples from the baby. It seems like a wild shot to me.
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 2:08 pm
I'm not understanding how he can be charged with kidnapping in the first place. Dannilynn can not be taken from the Bahamas because of Vergie's court order. It's just crazy!
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 2:46 pm
His name is on the birth cert...Kidnapping, I think not!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 2:58 pm
Virgie has also filed a new motion, to take custody of Dannielynn, alleging that she is not being properly cared for. It's all a little nutty. I think the kidnapping charge is based on their flight from California to the Bahamas to evade the paternity issue?
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 3:12 pm
Hmmm...it is nutty. How can HKS be charged with that when ANS was pregnant at the time? Also, last night that Ford guy said the HKS had nothing to do with ANS ending up in the Bahamas. She asked Ford to research the Bahamas for her. Howard did not go there until a month before Dannilynn was born.
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 4:08 pm
Personally, I think this was all pre-meditated. The move to Bahamas, the committment ceremony etc. And, Howard being the attorney, knew how to research all of the laws from other countries. He stinks, I've always felt he stinks, and the video w/ her with a painted clown face proves it.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 4:26 pm
I think it is more like a hostage situation than kidnapping.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 4:30 pm
Anna had to have someone be the dad on the birth certificate, and I think she fumbled about a bit before landing on Howard. She did ask the South Carolina guy to sign, and he declined. There was something Howard said during the trial that lead me to believe that he fully understood why Anna went to the Bahamas at the time. Note that South Carolina guy did provide the house she and Howard lived in there. She claimed he gave it to her, he claimed he just let her live there, and is now proceeding to have Howard evicted. It is telling that this guy said he considers Dannielynn to be a "ward of the state", and not Howard's daughter.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 1:58 pm
Hypermom stated: Cricket, was the woman Jackie Hatten? I have a very hard time believing anything she says. Her brother is in prison for threatening and stalking ANS...and also hitting a neighbor of ANS's that came to help when he was trying to get into her home. Jackie is close to ANS's mother. I'm not sure, Hypermom. I was on the computer and kind of listening and when she said that I was shocked that no one is picking up on it and challenging Stern about it. She had blonde hair and seemed about Anna Nicole's age. She sounded credible to me, but before this mess, I hadn't really followed Anna that much. I was sickened to hear this morning that because the baby was born in the Bahamas and Stern was with Anna at the time, he is presumed the father...in the Bahamas. I so hope Larry gets a fantastic lawyer quickly and gets his butt to the Bahamas to force a paternity test. It was iffy as to whether the Bahama's would request a paternity test to decide who was the father. I think it would be a tragedy for Stern to get custody of Danielynn.
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 5:45 pm
You dont have to have any one "claim" dad on the birth cert..(it can be left blank) Its not mandatory.. but if a name is on the document then it is sorta binding.. Even when someone else is found to be the true father, the person on the cert still has to take responsibility for "said" child...
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 5:51 pm
This all reminds me of the old saying, 'Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.'. I wonder how HKS is ever going to extracate himself from the 'web'?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 5:55 pm
Chew, those laws vary state by state and country by country. In some states, even if you are the dad listed on the birth certificate, if you can prove you are not the bio dad, you no longer have legal responsibility for the child. Anna obviously was manipulating several men to get things her way. Sigh. That poor little Daniellynn. I feel so sorry for her.
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 5:56 pm
Im in the minority, But I want HKS to have the child... I dont like Larry, Dont like her mother... But thats just me.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 6:05 pm
I worked with a girl whose husband had been married previously and had been paying child support for several years. It then discovered that the child was not his so he went to court to try to stop child support. He lost.
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 6:09 pm
I know NT, The guy better be darn sure hes the daddy when he signs that cert... I know a few folks with the same cituation... Male and Female..
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 6:10 pm
Sorry, I was never fond of HKS, but when I saw the "clown" video footage, I completely lost respect for him. He was making fun o her, all whacked out on some drug, and joking about how the footage being worth money. That's not a guy who should be the dad of this little girl, IMO.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 6:36 pm
The child has the right to know who her father is.
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 6:59 pm
In the privacy of my own home, With friends or whatnot, we have made some pretty crazy videos..whacked out or normal... cause we like playen around with the video camera... and then we have watched them at later dates and cracked up at our selves. If someone else saw them they might think, woa! but thats just me.. we are goofy like that. Those tapes were stolen and so Im not concerned with them... She lived her life in front of a camera and it is how she made her money. Like I said, Im in the minority but I usually am. 
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 7:01 pm
Chew, I also don't see Howard as the monster here.
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Mictay
Member
09-29-2006
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 7:18 pm
I'm in the minority with you Chewpito,I have never thought of HKS as A monster,I think he cared and loved ANS very much,and I think he would have rich or poor.And the whole not paying his own way really bugs me,how do we know if he ever got paid for his services,maybe her paying for things was his payment,Why didn't he have any income for last year,when he worked for ANS.Maybe i'm not saying it right but does anybody know what i'm trying to get at?
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 7:54 pm
My Brother dosent work, He stays home with the kids, he does all the house work and takes care of every thing home related-plus yard work,car care...errands,shoping... His partner is the worker and she likes it that way... she dosent have to worry about any thing... How people do things isnt always the norm.. But, Why be normal!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 8:11 pm
Howard wasn't Anna's boyfriend/partner that entire time, so I don't think its the same thing. If they had been life partners the entire time, it would be quite different. But admittedly, the last time he earned any money on his own was in 2004, and that was a pittance from doing the Anna Nicole show. In 2005-2006, she dated and even lived with Larry, all the time paying Howard's rent. I don't think he's a monster either and never said that, but you have to remember that when the clown video was taken, as I understand it, she was quite pregnant. To laugh and make fun of someone who is obviously whacked out on something whil pregnant seems way far away from any kind of reasonable behavior, and a far cry from just being silly and goofing off. It seems to completely ignore the seriousness of her addiction and her baby's wellbeing. That's why I think he should not be the dad. He didn't act to protect that baby in utero, even supplying her with drugs while she was in the hospital to be weaned off them because of her pregnancy, why should he be trusted to act on her behalf now?
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