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Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Honestly, I don't think it matters where Anna's body is. She is dead and (hopefully) with her son in heaven. When I die, they can put me in a hefty and bring me to the city dump. At that point, it really won't matter, will it?

The most important thing I think should be done is find out who that baby's dad actually is.

And I also honestly think they should just put that baby up for a (closed) adoption so she can have a "normal" life, cuz I doubt she will have one. (And I am a big supporter of open adoption, but this case is different.)

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
Oh, I think it matters much where her body goes.. I think she needs to be next to her son, and have people that cared about her to say thier goodbyes... How sickning to have people stand around your grave pretending to be sad when they know full well that they have kept you from being layed to rest near the son you loved more than any thing... Its pure spite.. Myself, I would want to be cremated..but even still, the thought of hatefull people being in charge of my remains is dreadfully sad to me... If the mother gets her, I can allmost amagine the smirk on her face knowing that she hurt anna even in death...

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 12:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Where a body goes matters to those left behind, though Anna left behind a huge dysfunctional bunch for sure.

But the baby is alive and innocent and frankly, she's spent her whole life so far in the hands of two weepy, incoherent adults and a series of caretakers and "new aunts" and "new grandmas" who don't seem to have much more in mind than keeping her from another group of not all that functional people. Very sad.

And while I've always felt that Anna was very damaged and all, I was sort of broght back to earth by an article in today's paper opinion, pointing out that she's not always been exactly a nice person.

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/opinion/localstatecolumns/article_1578476.php

Wednesday, February 14, 2007
The Orange Grove: Why Anna Nicole mattered
Watching her train wreck of a life made us feel better about our own lives
By REBECCA SCHOENKOPF
Former “Commie Girl” columnist for the O.C. Weekly
The more erudite among us have spent the week mourning not the passing of Anna Nicole Smith but the media reaction to it. I don't watch television news, but I suppose it's possible there was a bit of overkill. The smart set wonders why so much was made of a woman "famous for being famous." That's easy: Anna Nicole Smith made us feel better about our own middle-class lives. She didn't incite envy, despite her (at one time) glamazon beauty and her tenuous grasp on hundreds of millions of dollars.

She created relief. When we watched her slur her way through the simplest statements, we felt smart and together. When we witnessed her oversexed lusting after even inanimate objects, we felt as classy and clean as Audrey Hepburn or Princess Grace. When we watched her bawdy interactions with her poor shy, late son, we kissed our children and told them we loved them.

Anna Nicole Smith, God rest her, was a miserable human being: She was stunningly ignorant, and she was cruel. She wasn't one deadly sin; she was all of them, wrapped in a layer of pork fat.

I was an avid watcher of "The Anna Nicole Show," an early entry in the reality television universe on cable's E! channel. One particularly elegant moment showed Anna on her balcony, hamming it up for the cameraman: "Please, please throw me some diamonds, Romeo. Or just a kiss! Upon my cheek! What art thou, Romeo?" She was so disgusting – passed out on the gauche sofa with her face in the cushions and her rear in the air, playing "bouncy" on her assistant, Kimmy, licking the obviously infatuated Kimmy's lips and then dispatching her with a slurred put-down until Kimmy, once again, cried her eyes out while Anna looked on with a mean little smile.

Back then, the E! channel had to constantly invent "reality" for the show: Anna hires a stupid decorator. Anna goes to the dentist. Anna feels herself up and screams at people. Anna has an eating contest. But if the show had just come along a few years later, the network's cameras could have captured some of the most mind-boggling actual reality of our times: her precedent-setting appearance before the Supreme Court. The cameras also could have answered the mystery of whether she actually had a romantic relationship with her oily lawyer, Howard K. Stern. They could have watched as the truly horrifying final year of Anna's life played out, with her baby daughter (of disputed parentage) born just days before Anna's son, Daniel, overdosed in Anna's hospital room.

Anna's judgment, never particularly sound (see the teddy-bear-strewn funeral she held for her 90-year-old billionaire husband, where she wore her wedding gown and veil and croaked "Wind Beneath My Wings"), became even loopier, with the world mocking her "commitment ceremony" with Stern on a boat in the Bahamas before she managed to bury her son. (It was 39 days after his death that he was finally laid to rest.) Without E!'s cameras, we forgot how nastily she treated her entourage and were moved instead to amused pity.

And when Anna died, we felt guilty for having endlessly used her for our own cheap laughs, but we still laughed, if ruefully. "Hopefully she's with Daniel, and she's mortifying him in Heaven as we speak," a commenter wrote on the beloved gossip Web site Defamer. "'St. Peter, I waaant a reaaally big cloooooooud.'"

Angelina Jolie doesn't make anyone feel better about themselves; Angelina Jolie makes us feel poor and ugly and unadventurous as she climbs into the cockpit of her plane to master flying on her way to yet another continent to save more babies. Also, she is with Brad Pitt.

But Anna, with her trans-fats-soaked body and her ear-splitting whine, her entitled demands and her small-mindedness, embodied the worst parts of the stereotypical Ugly America, and we got to feel superior and above it all.

Maybe we're indifferent parents, but we're not as bad as Anna. Maybe we're lazy and flabby and spend a lot of time on the couch, but we're not passed out on it, grotesquely, before the cameras.

President Franklin Roosevelt, introducing singer Kate Smith to King George VI of England, said, "Miss Smith is America."

Sadly, yes, in reference to this latter-day, also-lamented Miss Smith. But America can rise above it. If you're actually reading a newspaper right now, you already have.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 6:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I think if Anna wanted to be buried by her son, it matters very much that her wishes are honored.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 7:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
it keeps pissing me off that many reporters/papers are trying to make something out of the pics with the man in the bahamas. Howard explained those pics on ET and the reports never give his explaination...just big headlines that Anna was having an affair to get her citizenship there quicker

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
She created relief. When we watched her slur her way through the simplest statements, we felt smart and together. When we witnessed her oversexed lusting after even inanimate objects, we felt as classy and clean as Audrey Hepburn or Princess Grace. When we watched her bawdy interactions with her poor shy, late son, we kissed our children and told them we loved them.

More true than most would admit.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Pamy, yep! The ET reporter and producer explained it on Larry King also. I guess the truth is not what some want to hear. Like, about people saying Howard was paid a million dollars by ET. ET does not pay!

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 8:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
I am glad the judge is getting the baby a lawyer, no one thought of that except the judge. I feel she should be buried with her son. I can't image ET having that kind of $$$

Landi
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07-29-2002

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 8:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landi a private message Print Post    
i have not heard any explanation, could pamy or hypermom explain it to all of us?

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 8:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Sheila, the judge will appoint a guardian ad litem to represent Dannielynn, which is standard practice in custody cases. None of the attorneys involved could do this because, of course, that would be a conflict of interest.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
landi, Howard explained that the pics were taken at the hospital after she had the baby and they were throwing her a shower. He showed another pic of a bunch of people that were in the room as well. They put that pic out there and made it look like something it wasn't. She was hugging him goodbye.

Jan
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08-01-2000

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 9:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jan a private message Print Post    
further to Sherbabe's post yesterday:

Anna Nicole's Nanny Comes Forward with Baby Health Fears

Anna Nicole Smith's former nanny has added to the media storm swirling around the late actress by filing legal documents suggesting her former boss was an unfit mother. In an explosive new legal document, Bahamian nanny Quethlie Alexis states Smith starved her baby daughter Dannielynn because, "She wanted her baby to be sexy." According to the sworn affidavit written in December, and just obtained by website Tmz.com, Alexis claims she was told to "underfeed" the tot. Speaking about Smith by her real name Vicky Lynn Marshall, Alexis states, "Ms. Marshall was obsessed with making sure that her baby was sexy. Ms. Marshall knew that the correct amount of baby food was three ounces every three hours... Ms. Marshall insisted that the maximum I was to give was 2.5 ounces." In the affidavit, Alexis tells the authorities that baby Dannielynn "is badly underweight and not thriving, as a baby should."


IMDb

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Well isn't this special...

"Well, you know, I hate gay people. I let it be known I don't like gay people. I don't like to be around gay people. I'm homophobic. It shouldn't be in the world, in the United States, I don't like it."

- Five time NBA all-star player Tim Hardaway told sports journliast Dan Le Batard on 790 the Ticket in South Florida, Wednesday afternoon

Story found on PEREZ HILTON

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Just to let everyone know, there is an ongoing discussion of this in the Breaking Headlines Discussion thread.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Ooops! Thanks Jimmer. I thought because it involved a celebrity, it might've been substandard for the N&V area. LOL

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - We discuss everything in N & V!

Seriously, I think it is an important issue. The more attention it gets, the better.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 5:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Oh Eeyore, we will sink to all levels in N&V, we even discussed ....dare I say it???? Who de daddy

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 8:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
LOLOL Maris! That IS a new low!

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 9:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
There was a pic they showed tonight on Entertainment Tonight and she is the spitting image of Larry Birkhead.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Friday, February 16, 2007 - 9:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
"Ms. Marshall insisted that the maximum I was to give was 2.5 ounces."

How old is the child now? A newborn wants about 2 oz q2-3 hrs. At 1 month 3-4 oz q3h. Good news is that caught this early, the child will not have any growth stunting that chronic malnutrition can cause. Ms Marshall would not have had a sexy baby if this had continued, she would have had a short little girl.

'squeek'

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, February 16, 2007 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
As I have said before and I could be wrong, but those cute little fat cheeks don't look like a malnourished baby.

And also, as I have said before, if the nanny was so concerned about Dannielynn not being properly fed, why is she just now speaking up? If this was in fact going on she bears just as much responsibility as Anna Nicole for not reporting it.

My great-niece suffered from reflux. She was only given a couple of ounces at a time but she was fed twice as often.

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Friday, February 16, 2007 - 9:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
I agree with you Native=Texan she doesn't look underfed, she is such a sweet baby.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Friday, February 16, 2007 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Shows you can't believe everything people say.

Wink
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10-06-2000

Friday, February 16, 2007 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wink a private message Print Post    
At this point they should be far more concerned about reports she took drugs during her pregnancy, especially any taken during the first trimester. Could be a very difficult road ahead for that baby.

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Friday, February 16, 2007 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
You are right, and I think I hate to say it maybe Howard is the best person to have the baby I hope she is his, and I swear she looks like him. I like it how he holds that baby close to him. A caring father, he may have tried to help Anna Nicole, but you know if you want drugs or whatever, you can't stop a person, and I feel Anna should be buried next to her son, just the way she wanted. I hope it goes that way, so she can rest in peace.