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Shadoe
Member
11-04-2004
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 12:50 pm
The first thing I have to say is Do NOT get a tattoo just for the sake of getting one. Chances are you will likely be sorry later. I don't know when her Bday is, but while you're waiting, make sure you find a reputable tattoo shop. You can go to the shop and talk to the artists just to see if you feel comfortable. Once you have a clean shop and a good artist, you're ready to look around for some ideas. Be sure to find out how long ahead you have to make your appt for the two of you; I am sure you would be disappointed if you could not get in on the day you want. I have to book my appts at least a month ahead as my tattooist is booked solid. Some of them are booked for months ahead. There are a couple sites you can visit to get some ideas, but the best is bmezine.com Look through a bunch of them for ideas but don't 'settle' for something that is just OK. Print out some pictures of a few that seem to jump out at you. You know, the ones that make you immediately think OH I have to have that one. Take them to the shop so you will get what you want and also know how much it will cost. Give some thought to the spot on your body as well - some are definitely MORE painful. What did you pick for your first and does you dauther agree to get one matching? My first one was a twisted green vine I think.
Or else it was the one below.
I for sure did not start big, but I still love my choices.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 12:50 pm
Pamznic, since hopefully you will return here looking for answers (I have none.. no tats and no answers) Click here to find your folder, where I hope soon you'll have some greetings and where you can post if you want as well..
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Pamznic
Member
03-01-2006
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 8:12 pm
My second tattoo is going to be mickey mouse ears shaped like a dragon - my daughter and I are over the moon for Disneyland and I have a fondness for dragons and most things asian. I bought a baseball cap a couple of years ago from Disneyland resort. They just twisted the dragon into the universal mickey mouse ears. In 3 1/2 years when nIki is old enough to get a Tattoo we made a promise that we would get this twisted dragon together for her Birthday. So until then I am thinking of getting a koi fish or three. I'm leaning towards fish as my birth sign is Pisces and my Mom who's 78th Birthday would have been today (also pisces) and then a baby koi for my daughter.
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Shadoe
Member
11-04-2004
| Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 5:04 am
Pam, koi is a good choice, one of luck. Make sure you have them swimming upstream. The head is up for luck. A choice of tattoo which represents 3 generations is wonderful. I am sure your artist will have fun designing it for you. Give your idea and any pictures you have found of koi that you like, and give the artist some time to sketch it out. In order to get some details into the kois, I don't see this tattoo as being all that small, so it may take some time to apply and maybe even a couple sittings. If you go too small, your koi will look like a bunch of little goldfish. Once you decide on the size, you can ask how much it will cost and how long it will take. Depending on the detail, the artist needs to do the outline in one sitting. It would be impossible to line up the stencil properly on a second sitting, so be prepared to at least get the outline done in one day. It's best to give the outline a month to fully heal before starting on your shading and coloring. Both my koi on my ribs and my kali on my back were done that way. The ribs took over 2 hours and my back was closer to 4 hours, but both have a great amount of detail. Once you have the outline in place, you can take your time at getting the shading and color done. It's nice to get some pictures of your tattoo after each sitting, so you can see the progress. You can take 2 and a half years if you like! Seriously, I have seen a wide range of colors in the koi tattoo people have, so make sure you look around for colors that you like. Sometimes I say that color is not important because you can get some wicked looking black and grey tattoos if the shading is done just right, but with kois, I think they must be colored. The vibrant reds and oranges just make them come alive and swim out at you. You never said where you would like to get the tattoo. Don't pick the ribs or mid section, whatever you do, especially not for your first tattoo.
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Pamznic
Member
03-01-2006
| Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 5:26 am
I am thinking the koi might be on my sholder and around my back I want to incorporate several names in these koi, my mom my daughter and my very good friend who is in hospice care right now.
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Shadoe
Member
11-04-2004
| Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 8:30 am
On your shoulder blade would be a nice place for your koi, or even on the small of your back. I think you may want to have two separate tattoos though. The koi can be of a family significance, with even size used as opposed to the names. You could have a small, medium, then large koi to represent each generation. The of the three through water would look wonderful. For your dear friend, I would think something unique to that person may be better suited. If you try lumping every idea into just one tattoo, it will lose the values and become junky and watered down. Give some thought to what is most special about your friend and how best you can display that in a tattoo.
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Pamznic
Member
03-01-2006
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 6:35 am
Shadoe, my daughter informs me that the small of ones back is a no no (at least for women). It Has a slutty meaning do you no anything about that?
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 6:40 am
That's total bs.
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Pamznic
Member
03-01-2006
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 8:36 am
okay mocha, Don't get mad that's why I asked - sorry
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 8:40 am
Lol not mad at all, just answering your question. And no need to be sorry. 
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Shadoe
Member
11-04-2004
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 8:51 am
Pam, That area in the small of the back, just below the waist is just about the most common spot for tattoos on females. Did you ask your daughter where she heard that myth? I would be interested to hear about it. These days just about any body part is OK for ink, but I can think of many other areas more of a no-no for sure. I can see if the female had a tattoo and wore clothing to show it off, it could be taken in a few ways but the spot on its own is just fine.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 8:56 am
Well, you should put the tattoo whereever you want it. That said, there IS the line in "The Wedding Crashers" where Vince Vaughn's character is checking out a girl and says "Oh! Tattoo on the lower back: might have well been a bullseye." (And I don't think what he was shooting was a dart) I think it definitely carries some "stereotype" with it, on a young girl. I would never do it.
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Lawrie
Member
08-03-2002
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 9:14 am
I have read that some anesthetists are concerned about giving an epidural to a woman in labour who has a tattoo on the small of the back.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 9:21 am
Ahh interesting point Lawrie. I did a google search... A study conducted by the Canadian Journal of Anesthesia to test the ramifications of women receiving epidural anesthesia in a tattooed area encountered a patient whose tattoo covered her entire back, making it impossible for the anesthesia provider to locate a lumbar interspace that did not have tattoo pigment in the overlying skin. Aside from the difficulty in locating a suitable area to insert the epidural, the woman received the epidural without incident. Other studies conducted on this matter have shown no adverse affects on the patient or anesthesia process. However, possible long-term implications from depositing a pigmented tissue core into these areas are unknown. link Something to consider.
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Pamznic
Member
03-01-2006
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:17 pm
Wow, thank you Mocha for posting that info. I must say that I don't feel like it's a part of my 46 yr old body that I'm comfortable sharing. Also my daughter is 13 and can't get a tattoo for another 5 years so that isn't a question. She is pretty sharp . I asked her to watch the vagina monologues, expressing that it was pretty heavy and she watched it and said "Sex in the City" pretty much covered all that so she wasn't shock by it. WOW - My shoulder and back, wrist and ankle are the places I'm willing to get my first Tat. at this point. By The Way I just sow a sign there is a Tattoo convention coming up at the cow palace at the end of march. Hope I can make it!
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:26 pm

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Irishtxgrl
Member
12-07-2005
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 1:12 pm
love my tats, my daughter wants one when she is of age but still have six years till then. so hopefully she will choose for herself the best place to put it and something she can live with permanently
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Shashakaye
Member
05-19-2003
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 3:23 pm
My oldest daughter and I got matching tattoos of a small flower on top of our left foot before she went off to college. When DD2 turned 18 she got the same one. I wonder if my youngest 2 will want it too.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 4:04 pm
Pam - DEFINITELY go to the tattoo convention!!! You won't feel too "pressured" there, like you might going into a little tattoo shop. If I were to want to find out about getting a tattoo, I wouldn't necessarily feel comfy going into a quiet shop and asking questions, only to walk out again. I'd feel fine asking questions and getting a feel for everything at a convention. Also, I would imagine that you could find one guy you like, and go ask others about him, before getting the tattoo done. See what their colleagues think.... Just an idea. My mom will set the record straight though....LOL
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 4:07 pm
Lol Eeyore!
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Shadoe
Member
11-04-2004
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 4:07 pm
Pam, if there was any way I could get to that convention, I WOULD!I will have to plan for a trip like that since it's a long way from Toronto. Have you taken a look at all the artists that will be there??? Even on the slide show on the exhibitors page, Kat Von D is there! San Francisco Tattoo Show That convention would be ideal for you because you can get to see close up how the work is done, and you will have a great opportunity to actually watch some of the artists in your own area. You will have a chance to ask all of your questions too. If you do go, make sure to look for the Hawaiian and Japanese booths as their styles may be a bit different and worth a watch. The Toronto NIX convention each year is not as big but it is more International in the artists that come to the show. I go each year but I would really love to go to a massive one like the SF show. Az geez, now I am sooo jealous of you! Ah well, maybe next year.
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Landi
Member
07-29-2002
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 5:09 pm
pamznic, i saw those signs today too! you must be a bay area person!
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Shadoe
Member
11-04-2004
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 5:35 pm
GO GO GO TO THE SHOW!!! Come back here and tell me all about it! I would be so thrilled to go to a massive show like that. I will have to plan a trip and get a 3day ticket for sure! Honest, even if you don't want a tattoo, these shows are truly enjoyable. I can't imagine anyone not enjoying themselves because there is so much to see and do there.
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Pamznic
Member
03-01-2006
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 5:59 pm
okay I'm tryin to hook up with my Redwood City posse I'm gonna try and go -- yeah--
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Pamznic
Member
03-01-2006
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 6:03 pm
p.s. gayle thanks for the posting the web page for me..... I am so excited! thats the first time i've done that, hum learn something new everyday.
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