TVCH FORUMS HOME . JOIN . FAN CLUBS . DONATE . CONTACT . CHAT  
 Wikia  Quick Links   TOPICS . TREE-VIEW . SEARCH . HELP! . NEWS . PROFILE
Archive through October 28, 2006

The TVClubHouse: General Discussions ARCHIVES: Jan. 2007 ~ Mar. 2007: The only Dumb question is the one not asked (Q&A) (ARCHIVES): Archive through October 28, 2006 users admin

Author Message
Cndeariso
Member

06-28-2004

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
julieboo, i've never been stumped this badly before either. are you sure everything else is correct? would you mind posting the starting set and let me see how far i get with it? thanks. i hope i can help you.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
CND, the starting set is in my 6:40 post (though you may have seen it by the time I post this...) I am SOOOO glad I am not the only one stumped!

Cndeariso
Member

06-28-2004

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 7:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
working on it right now.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Mame, thanks for sending that flare. And good luck CND. Let me know if/where I've gone wrong... Hopefully you can get at least one or two more numbers...

Cndeariso
Member

06-28-2004

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 7:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
o.k. i cheated and went to an online solver. but, i can tell you this much, julieboo, all that you have so far is correct. you have NO mistakes.

now, if you want i can give you one number but i can't tell you how the solver came up with it. let me know.

Weinermr
Member

08-18-2001

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Weinermr a private message Print Post    
Julieboo, I guess Cndeariso beat me to it, but I have a few more numbers for you too. I'm working the puzzle myself.

Jimmer
Moderator

08-30-2000

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 7:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
How does this work anyway?

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
hmmm, can ya give me any number and explain it???

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
And thanks!!!

Jimmer, each row, each column and each square of 9 have to have 1 thru 9 in each. No repeats. Does that make enough sense? There is no adding involved.

Cndeariso
Member

06-28-2004

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 7:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
Spoiler
Click below to view spoiler
according to the logic solver i'm using the next number to be solved is the number 1 (one) in column seven, row E.
but, i'm not sure how it got there. it did a whole series by putting every possible number in each block and used a process of elimination. i really don't know how it got there. maybe someone else can help you with that part.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 7:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, maybe this can explain better than I can...

http://www.sudoku.com/howtosolve.htm

Jimmer
Moderator

08-30-2000

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 7:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - Thanks Julie. I googled after I asked, and found something similar. It looks like fun.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Thanks CND, I will start with that spoiler if I can't figure anything else out.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Well, I used that "1". Can you tell me if I am right so far?



Kitt
Member

09-06-2000

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
There's a 1 in the middle row, seventh square along (1st column of the third box. You know the middle row of the very middle box contains 3, 4 and 5 (even though you don't know the order), there's a 2 and a 6 already in that row, so working across the row, squares in columns 2 & 3 & 7 & 8, must contain the numbers 1, 7, 8 and 9 in some order. If you look at column 7 in that middle row, you can't have a 7 or 8 in there, because they're already in the column, you can't have 9 because it's already in the 3by3 box the square it's in, so it must contain the number 1.

That's hard to explain, but hope it helped!

(ETA: after that you can immediately fill in all the 1s)

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 8:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Crap, ignore my 8:16 post. Is this one right?



Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 8:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Kitt, thanks for that. It did help. Now can you tell if I am right so far? I think I am stumped again...

Kitt
Member

09-06-2000

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Your 8.26 post is correct, but so is your 8.16 one.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 8:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Can anyone explain any one additional number after the 8:26 post? (Hope that makes sense.)

Kitt
Member

09-06-2000

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 8:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I'll try, give me a sec.. (have to start again from your numbers!)

Cndeariso
Member

06-28-2004

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 9:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
again, i don't know the logic but:

Spoiler
Click below to view spoiler
put a 5 (five) in column #2 row F


Kitt
Member

09-06-2000

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 9:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
OK, this is a bit long winded.. Starting with your 8.26 box:

Look at the very middle row again. The middle three in that row are some order of 3, 4 & 5. By eliminating the others in the columns or boxes, square 2 in that row must be 7,8or9, square 3 in the row must be 7or9 and square 8 must be 7or8.

Now look at the third column. Those four empty squares must contain the number 3, 5, 7 and 9.

In row 7, the square in column 3 must be 7 or 9 (3&5 are already in the row).
In row 5, the square in column 3 must be 7 or 9 (see above).
That means column 3 rows 1 and 4 must contain the numbers 3 and 5, and col 3 row 1 can't contain 3 as it's already in the row, so col 3 row 1 must be the number 5, and col3 row 4 must be the number 3.

Chaplin
Member

01-08-2006

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 9:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chaplin a private message Print Post    
I solved it and so far you are correct.....

Column #1 Row G is a 9

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 9:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
wait...

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 9:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
why can't col 3/row 1 have a 9?