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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:38 pm
Well the kids are 6, but at these meetings each kid has at least one parent with them. So knowing that there is that much parental help, is 10 pages still too many?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:40 pm
I was also going to email each parent a few "pages" for the kid to fill out ahead of time. Like have them answer a page of some questions like what their eye color is and what some favorite things are... (food, book, tv show.) And also have them have their kid draw a self portrait on an 8 1/2 x 11 piece of paper. I am thinking of each scout to bring their own 1" binder. Suggestions, comments?
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:46 pm
Keeping it a little less would cut back on the parental help. there's a fine line between helping them and doing it for them, and if the projects too much the chances are parents would end up doing a lot of it. Is there anything that says the project has to be done in one night? You guys follow a project schedule right? (Never been in scouts, neither have the kids, but friends kids have and I remember something about how everything was scheduled.) If you don't have to follow too strictly to a schedule you could break it into parts, half this week, half next or as much as they can get done this week and then a little more at the next meeting, then the next, etc. Or working a few minutes when they get there before the meeting starts.
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Landi
Member
07-29-2002
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 1:00 pm
i've done alot with sunday school and awanas. YES I WAS A SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER! (close that open mouth!) and am used to this age and how much work it takes to do small crafts. remember to use the KISS method. Keep it simple simple! war, we already know that caleb and kota are two amazing children. but i also know they do alot of crafts with you, so i am not surprised they can do that many pages.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 1:02 pm
I'll just close my mouth now.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 1:09 pm
I though it was "keep it simple stupid!" Anyways, I really appreciate all of your guys advice and input. And also for helping remind me to keep it simple. I tend to get carried away with ideas at times!!
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Landi
Member
07-29-2002
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 1:57 pm
it used to be that, julie, but we can't say "stupid"! read your baby boomer thread! HAHAHAHAHA!
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 2:47 pm
Stupid's a dirty word in our house and if either Darren or I hear the kids say it they get in as much trouble as if they'd said one of those four letter words. I think it's one of the rudest things to say to someone. Ok, I'm weird, lol. Simple is best with this age group. They always start out so eager and then if it's a long project they get bored halfway through. Landi, it's not only that we do alot of crafts, but they see me sitting around doing it, lol. Kids like to follow their parents (younger kids anyways) and as soon as I start to work on something I have both standing there asking if they can do their own.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 2:55 pm
Not that weird. I think I mentioned that one of my girls told us that one of her friends got in trouble in school for saying the S word. She said, You know what the S word is Daddy?. I said that I did but asked her to tell me anyway and she said, Its really bad to call anyone Stupid! Not what I was thinking the S word was, but still a good thing to reinforce!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, March 10, 2006 - 3:17 pm
I was talking on the phone today after I picked Ryan up from school. I happened to say "ass" (as in rear end, not calling someone one.) Anyways, Ryan then asked if "ass" is a bad word. I said yes, I should have said "butt." He then said, no you should say "behind" cuz "butt" isn't nice... Too funny. Oh yes, Ryan also thinks "stupid" is about as foul as you can get!
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Friday, March 24, 2006 - 6:20 am
Mommy Brag (thought there was a thread - didnt want to start one!!) Just found out in today's newspaper... {newurl/http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-uofijam24.html,Chicago Sun-Times} My son did accomplish something "big" I had no idea!! I wasnt that impressed - today on the news they interviewed 2 girls that didnt get in, 34 on ACT, and a 4.1 GPA (taking AP classes) as well as a lot of impressive extra activities, work etc... The University of Illinois received a record number of applications this year, making it harder than ever to gain admittance to some of its top colleges. The Downstate school received more than 22,300 applications -- a 12 percent increase over last year -- for about 7,150 slots. Its top-ranked business school received 2,800 applications -- a 22 percent increase -- for just 600 seats. School officials say the increase reflects several trends, including more high school graduates and more interest in the state's flagship school, which provides "excellence and value,'' said Chancellor Richard Herman. And, frankly, last year was subpar in terms of interest in U. of I. OK then - YEAH DS!! WTG!! (ps dont forget the other forboden "s" word - you know -that really, realy "bad" "s" word - - SHUT UP!!) lol
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Friday, March 24, 2006 - 10:06 am
Ohhhh "shut up" is just foul isn't it! It's also nasty and rude and another no-no in our house. Reader, congratulations to your son! That's quite the accomplishment and I know ya'll must be bursting with pride!
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Monday, March 27, 2006 - 12:13 am
What would ya'll do? If a friend of your childs was stealing money from people, not once or twice and then learning a lesson, but over and over again. If the same friend of your childs was hanging out with kids who were breaking into homes and vandalizing them, what would you do? Put a stop to them hanging out? Have a talk with your child and hope they have sense enough to know what's right and wrong and let them make the choice themselves? What if it wasn't a friend, but a family member? We seem to be having a problem with one of my nephews and I'm concerned. This is my oldest nephew, he's only 9 months older than Caleb, but in Caleb's eyes, he's the cool one. He gets to do more, he gets to run around his neighborhood, hang out with his friends all day, and runs to the store by himself. He also gets away with more, mom punishes him at home, dad doesn't follow through at his house. Today there was another incident where money was missing from two of my nephews and my oldest niece. At the time it happened, Caleb, Dakota, and my two nieces were with us while the rest of the family at sis'. Darren dropped the kids off and a few minutes later Caleb overheard sis and another family member talking about the missing money and said "oh, cousin had a bunch of money he showed me when I got here." He happened to have the same exact amount that was missing and his dad knew he didn't have it when he got there. When this all started happening a while back, we had a vague conversation with Caleb about how stealing is bad and what to do if someone you're with is doing something wrong. We kept nephews name out of it, we discussed several scenarios and I have no doubts he'll do what's right. He has such a strong sense of right and wrong that he wouldn't knowingly do wrong. So anyways, sis calls to tell me what happened and that Caleb was pretty upset once he realized his cousin wasn't pulling a joke on the other kids and had really stolen the money. She talked to him about how they know he had nothing to do with it, he couldn't have known the money was stolen before they got there and for a kid like him who wouldn't think of taking soemthing that didn't belong to him, he wouldn't think about someone else doing it. She's on a kick now, she says they shouldn't hang out together at all, that Caleb's too good a kid but also that there's a little bit of older cousin is too cool syndrome going on and she's worried he might start to get into trouble. I am not too worried about it, Caleb just doesn't spend enough time alone with this cousin to get into trouble. I'm so close to my family I can't imagine forcing my kids to stay away from another family member, to tell them they can't play and hang out with one of their cousins. Maybe I'm idealistic, but couldn't a good kid be a good influence on one who's getting into trouble? I really don't believe nephew is a bad kid, I think he's acting out, that there's so much confusion for him bouncing between two houses, a parent who's strict, and another who lets him get away with anything and that he just needs firmer, more consistent parenting between both parents. I truly don't believe he's bad and that theres no hope for him and that cutting off the kids contact with him isn't the right way to go. On the other hand, if this was any other kid outside of one of my nephews who I completely adore, I might not even question what to do, Caleb wouldn't be hanging out with him anymore. What would ya'll do? Any thoughts to help me sort this out? I still have to talk to Darren about it, but I know he'll say, "it's your nephew, what do you want to do?"
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, March 27, 2006 - 3:25 am
Why not try sitting down with the nephew one on one and find out what's going on with him. Tell him that you are really worried about him and want to be there for him if he wants you. Tell him you are also concerned about Caleb, say 'Caleb thinks the world of you and I would hate it if your behavior effected your relationship'.
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Secretsmile
Member
08-19-2002
| Monday, March 27, 2006 - 4:31 am
I think that rather than keep Caleb from being around his cousin at all you should make sure to "talk it to death" with him, not all at one time but often. Give him plenty of chances to discuss with you how cousin's behavior affects him, the victims and make very sure you are clear what his consequences would be if he ever exhibited that type of behavior. Make sure that he gets the chance to talk to you, question you and isn't getting all his information by over hearing conversations or from other kids. I never thought telling my kids who they could and couldn't play with worked. The "bad" kid always seemed so much cooler if I tried that. What worked better for us was to make sure that the child in question was only around our children when we ourselves were supervising and then we watched like a hawk. Once we found that plan of attack we noticed two things. One, our children got impatient with that kid's behavior, Two, the child in question usually behaved much better around us because it set them up to be good and most children like being good and acknowledged. I'll share a tip that I never hesitated to do, even and maybe more often when the kids were teenagers. I would give a list of house rules to the visitors and if they broke them I would immediately call their parents to pick them up. That would shock them but never did a child refuse to come back to my house and I never had to call their parents a second time. If my child broke the rules while a visitor was there, the child had to go to their room regardless of the fact they had company and the company was again sent home. The parents of the child in question would sometimes get mad but the bottom line was, our home is our sanctuary, this is where they can always be safe, be sure of being treated well and loved unconditionally and nobody else's inconvience was worth compromising that.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, March 27, 2006 - 4:48 pm
Secret, What a wonderful idea! Out of curiosity -- what was your "list of rules"? We have a good kid, but upon occasion he brings louder friends home. I've only had one where I've "set the house rules" down (it was a minor burping situation at the table -- not a "right/wrong" moral issue), and it never happened again. However, the little "darlings" are growing up, so I'm very anxious to keep my house my haven!
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Monday, March 27, 2006 - 9:50 pm
Thanks guys! I pretty much know whats up with nephew, poor kids stuck between two parents who fight over everything and have his whole life, even though they were seperated before he was born. If one says yes the other says no and he knows if he's in trouble with one he won't be with the other. Adopted bro doesn't like to be the "bad" parent cuz he thinks if he's fun his son will want to spend more time with him so nephew gets away with everything with him. We've been so fortunate with the kids friends, I don't know if it's cuz they're all still kind of young and so new visiting each others houses or what, but they're all so polite. I like the idea of house rules though! We're pretty comfortable with the kids friends parents and wouldn't hesitate to call them up and ask them to pick up their kid if they were getting in trouble. I called today and invited the younger two nephews over for Wednesday to play with Caleb, then called and invited older nephew. He's supposed to be at his moms this week so I'm not sure if he'll be able to come. Darren and I talked earlier and decided as long as the kids are supervised they can play together. Coming to aunt Sandy's house is like being on lockdown anyways, lol, they don't get to leave the yard and with Kota I'm used to not letting the kids out of my sight for long! Talked to sis too, she had finally calmed down. She was more upset over my nieces missing box (a box her grandma had given her before she died) than the money niece had inside the box. They ended up finding the box hidden under a bunch of stuff. Sis said she was more hurt than anything, grandma had given each of the kids something special and the thought of one of them taking their special gift from another just hurt her and she over reacted. She agreed that nephew needed his family more now than ever, especially those of us who aren't trying to use him against someone else.
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Secretsmile
Member
08-19-2002
| Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 5:00 am
ROFL, Teach! Burbing contests at the table weren't really on my list, that wouldn't have worked since I suspect my husband would have started it. He was always big on egging the kids on. My list of rules had to do with respecting us as adults, the other children and the building and furnishings that constitute our house. The bottom line is, I did home day care throughout their lives, we had short term foster children, were their scout leaders and church youth group leaders, we had to take a strong stand that our word was law. I don't think our kids were very old, maybe 5-8 when I decided I wasn't going to allow visitors to turn my home into mass chaos. We did sit down with our kids during dessert one night and came up with the list of rules as a family. My oldest son had a buddy who thought teasing the younger kids was great fun. I felt strongly that in their own home they had to be safe from that. I was "mean". I really did tell the children what would happen and I really did follow through with it. It's quite shocking to everyone, my kid, the other kid and the parent of that kid. The kids always wanted to come back, they knew they too were safe under those rules. Just decide as a family what behavior is unacceptable to you, then you as the parents make sure you have the list include specific infractions and what the consequences are going to be.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 4:11 pm
Thanks. Those kinds of rules are already in place. Having a tender-hearted child, he doesn't usually have friends that are "mean," and w/no younger siblings, the only people to tease would be us! LOL The burping thing just bugs me at the table -- maybe it's a manners thing because we try to have a "nice" dinner every night and have time to get caught up w/each other's lives. Belching just doesn't seem to fit (although if anyone learns a new fart joke, we share it! Guess I've got a double standard, don't I?LOL)
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 8:52 am
Looking for input on PS2 games for young 'uns. Not sure this is the best thread for this, but can anyone tell me the names of some PS2 games that are similar to Sonic Riders? It's (obviously?) for my 6 year old. He and his friend love this game. I am looking for something a little different, yet somewhat similar. Actually any "E" games that you recommend would be great. Thanks for any input.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Monday, May 01, 2006 - 9:42 am
I am so furious right now I am shaking! And I can't get ahold of the freaking school to take care of this! Arghhhhhhhhh. I'm sitting here a few minutes ago and do what I usually do which is let the machine pick up. It's one of Dakota's little friends from school (she's home sick today and in bed sleeping.) The little boy tells her he's not her friend anymore and never will be again and doesn't want to see her. Then he says bye. Before he hangs up though he goes on to tell her that she better bring him something to school tomorrow or else he's going to beat her up. I had her listen to the message just long enough to identify it was him and what his name is (I knew his first name but not his last) and then called Darren at work and next my sister to play the message and have them confirm the little boy said what I thought he did. I had to do some fast talking with Darren and let him know I'm calling the principal now over this because he was ready to leave work to go over there right this minute. I am spitting mad. How dare this little boy call MY house and leave a threatening message on my answering machine to my 7 year old daughter! Not only is he completely out of line, but whats worse is that I know Dakota and know she won't take to bullying at all and wouldn't think twice about socking a kid trying to bully her which would get her suspended too no matter who started it!
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Monday, May 01, 2006 - 9:50 am
Well heck. Got ahold of the school but the principals in a meeting for STAR prep. I told her receptionist what had happened and the boys name and she said, Huh, he's not in school today. No kidding, he's sitting at home making threatening phone calls to my kid! Principals supposed to call back as soon as she gets a chance.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, May 01, 2006 - 10:07 am
I'm shaking my head in disbelief (which unfortunately, I do a lot these days). Probably it is too much to hope that the little boy's parents are reasonable people who will speak to him about this and make sure that he understands that he is out of line so this sort of thing goes no further!
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Buttercup
Member
09-10-2000
| Monday, May 01, 2006 - 10:07 am
Dang! War, that is unbelievable. How old is this boy? Do you know his parents? I am just shaking my head in disbelief. If Dakota socks the kid I won't tell ETA: I guess Jimmer and I are on the same wavelength with this one.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Monday, May 01, 2006 - 10:50 am
Well at least you have this on tape. Not just word of mouth -, he said she said. So its up to the principle and the parents to rein this kid in NOW. They can't just sweep it under the rug.
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