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Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 3:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
While Teresa is using the media to tell Junior he needs to choose, maybe she should do some choosing of her own - money or family.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
I am utterly heart broken. We lost Benny this morning.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
He will be sorely missed on tv. He always had the best stories and could explain things so well. RIP and go bump Earnhardt BP!

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 12:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Tomorrow on NBC, they are going to have a tribute to Benny Parsons.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 2:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
3 weeks until the Bud Shootout!

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Friday, February 09, 2007 - 6:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
hi. i probably shouldn't post here, but i have a stupid question. i know NOTHING about NASCAR.

when did NASCAR start? i'm curious about the Vukovich family:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Vukovich
(bill, eli, and billy,jr.)
what was the name of that type of race car driving (and what would it be called today)? i don't have a question about the family.

sorry for my ignorance and lame attempt at explaining my question.
tia

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 5:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
Hi Abby7, Your question is a bit vague, but I'll do my best.

The kind of car being driven by Bill Vukovich is classified as an open wheel car. These are race cars that don't have fenders, and big tires. There was a major split in the open wheel racing world about ten years ago, the rift divided the top echelon of open wheel racing into two divisions, CART and INDY car. The car that Bill was driving probably resembled the CART car more than the Indy car.

NASCAR cars are classified as "stock" cars, meaning that they resemble the cars we drive on the street...most notably they have fenders and tires closer in size to what we use on our cars.

I hope that answered your question.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 5:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
NASCAR started in 1948. Here's a good read on it.
http://membres.lycos.fr/binuxracing/history.html

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 6:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
Okay people, here we are at the dawn of a new season. I watched Speed channel all day yesterday so I am sufficiently pumped and ready! the Bud Shootout is tonight, and tomorrow 61 cars will try to qualify for the Daytona 500!

Lots of new stuff going on with the arrival of Toyota onto the scene, the Car of Tomorrow on the horizon, a tweak to the points system, and Juan Pablo Montoya to turn a few heads.

The DEI situation gets curioser and curioser. Dale Jr. is asking (rather seriously and with some clout) for a MAJORITY stake in DEI. That was enough to have lots of folks gasping for air. I think everyone expected that he would ask for a part, but I don't think anyone saw him asking for most of it!

Folks are saying that Dale Jr. is in the catbird seat in the fight, and make no mistake about it that's what is, but I'm not so sure. People are also saying that Dale Jr. can simply take his Budweiser and walk over to "Uncle Richard's" shop where he would be more than welcome. I'm not so sure about that either.

For what it's worth, here's my thinking.

First of all, this is a clash of the Titans. The parties involved aren't exactly nuts about each other and they're both stubborn as all get out.

Teresa is also known to be pretty tight with the purse strings. I don't see her opening up her pocketbook and handing over 51% of the company she spent years building to someone she isn't all that fond of. She is more than 6 years into widowhood, and life does go on. She doesn't go to the track and racing isn't in her blood, so it's not like she needs that part of the business for her own pleasure.

Folks are saying that without Dale Jr., DEI becomes a museum. Teresa is many things, but she's not dumb. If Dale Jr. pushes too hard, here's Teresa's Plan B. She sells DEI. It's hers, and she can do that. But in order to sell you need a buyer. Who'd buy it? She's already got the prospective buyer in the house! The Menard Family wants to go racing in the worst possible way, and they have the money to do it. Teresa sells the shop and the racing end of the business, and keeps the Dale Earnhardt memorbilia business for herself. She's done with the headaches of running the racing business, and is free to go and do whatever it is she pleases.

Dale Jr. on the other hand also has other options. The one everyone is point to is Richard Childress Racing, and as sentimental as that is, I just don't think it's in the cards at this time.

First of all, Junior pretty much does things that makes him happy. He needs to enjoy what he's doing, and have fun doing it. He also likes to have people around him who is he comfortable with.

I just don't see him fitting in with that tight knit group that's formed with Burton, Harvick, and Bowyer. They're clicking on all cylinders now and I don't think anyone wants to upset that balance.

NOPE....the place Junior would go is.....(and remember you heard it here first)...Joe Gibbs Racing. Junior and Tony Stewart are already good friends, and Denny Hamlin is one of his best buddies. Junior has been a Washington Redskins fan forever, and has always admired the coach. He would be honored to go and drive for the man. And Gibbs Racing would welcome him and Budweiser with open arms. They'd all be one very happy family. Which sure would be a change for ol' Junior.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 6:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Hey I'd be happy with Tony and JR as teammates!

Jr. has already said that Budweiser will NOT go with him if he leaves DEI.

I was listening to the radio on the way home yesterday and thought I heard that JR wants all of SR's kids total to have controlling interest of DEI. Not that he wants it himself but if all the kids [Jr, Kelly, Carey, Taylor Nicole - is there anymore?] voted together they would have controlling interest over the remaining shares. IF this is true of course Teresa would have Taylor's vote for now, but Jr and the other kids would still have majority vote over Teresa and the other stockholders. Like I said this is just one thing I THOUGHT I heard.

One thing I do know I heard is that Carey and Taylor were JR's STEP siblings. Sorry they shared the same dad they aren't STEP they are HALF.

11 hours 38 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 6:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Very, very, interesting!

Thanks, Marysafan! Can't wait to see how this plays out. (though it is a shame.)

Btw, is it true that Buckshot is driving this year?

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 7:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
lol! Serate...not that you and I are watching the clock or anything!

I hadn't heard anything about Buckshot driving this year. I would imagine that if he would...it would be in the Busch or truck series.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
Marysafan and Serate: thank you! yes, that answers my question. mary, that was a perfect explanation. serate, that link simply clarified it all.

Mictay
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09-29-2006

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 1:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mictay a private message Print Post    
What about JR starting his own team,I can't imagine that he wouldn't be able to find sponsership.Just my .

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 1:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
I can't imagine Budweiser not going with Junior - they would be idiots to let that rabid fanbase go. I hope that Kerry, Junior, and Kelly can get a stake of DEI and I like to think that Dale Sr. would want that too.

Kerry's oldest son works at DEI and is quite thrilled to be there. This will make great fodder all season long.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 2:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
Here is a ESPN article about the whole situation that is interesting.

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/columns/story?seriesId=2&columnist=blount_terry&id=2760109

And let's not forget that Kyle left Petty Enterprises and raced with the Woods Brothers and Felix Sabates. I can see Junior at Childress Racing and I can see him there driving the 3 car. As a Dale Sr. fan I think that would be very fitting and exactly what Dale Sr. would do if he were in the same situation.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 6:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
OK DUH DUH DUH moment, it was M&M's that wouldn't go with Elliott. DUH DUH DUH.
not as duh as my husband finding the ice cream in the fridge the next morning when he got his OJ out.
Mary, my husband who is a HUGE Tony fan, thought that JR would go to RCR if he leaves DEI. Until I told him what you had said. He keeps saying the more he thinks about it the more he thinks that is what might happen. IF he doesn't stay with DEI.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 6:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Beachcomer JR has said that he will one day drive the 3 car but it will not be until he is close to retiring or leaving NASCAR. So I don't look for him to drive it for 10 years at the least.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
Woohoo! Are we having fun yet!!! Wasn't that fun! Wow! It's so great to have cars back on the track.

I've got the shootout on in the kitchen, hubby has hockey on in the living room...and the both of us are getting plenty of exercise running back and forth! lol!

Serate, my husband is a HUGE Tony Stewart fan also!

Serate
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08-21-2001

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 7:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Awww shucks a caution. I wanted to see the fuel duel and now it's out the window.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
TONY! TONY! TONY! TONY! TONY! TONY! TONY!

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
I told hubby this afternoon that they did the one thing they shouldn't do...get Tony mad. When Tony gets mad...look out. And Tony was REALLY mad this afternoon! lol!

Nice job David Gilliland! Looks like Todd Parrott has things under control at Robert Yates. With Ricky Rudd's being on top of the practice charts, and David's second place tonight...Robert probably smiled for the first time in year!

Glad to see Kurt Busch right up there in mix. Kyle probably still has steam coming out his ears...but I just gotta love the Busch brothers. They bleed passion and are ultimate competitors.

Uhhh...I think Ray will have some words with Junior...and perhaps send him a bill! Bump drafting before you get to the straight away. C'mon a Junior, that's a rookie mistake and you ain't no rookie.

Denny Hamlin took a pretty had hit. I hope that isn't a sign of things to come. I really like the kid and would hate for him to have a sophmore season like Carl Edwards had last year.

All in all...it's good to be back at the track!!

Serate
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08-21-2001

Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 2:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Mary what made Tony mad yesterday? And I wonder if it would work every race day if so how much do I have to pay? *L* Not watching qualifying at the moment - it's on Tivo - cuz there was a good sale at American so we went and got a 50" DLP. Were going to wait until taxes but my dad - who LOVES my husband - said no go get one so you can get it set up before the Datyona 500 you can pay me back later because he just got his back. So hubby is even more pumped for the 500 and Twin 125's [or whatever they are called now].

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 3:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
When they were doing practice qualifying runs yesterday, NASCAR decided to call a caution right when Tony was in the middle of his. It totally screwed them up. He got really upset and started saying all kinds of things about NASCAR. Like how he reads in the papers that Brian France is a billionaire, but he can't afford to pay enough people to make sure that there is no debris on the track.

Then when they finally got his car all re-set to make another practice qualifying run, something in the fuel pump broke so he had to come in again to have that fixed. In two practice sessions I think he only got to make one practice qualifying run. He was rather pissy...and when Tony gets pissy like that...look out. He seems to drive best when he's mad as heck! He's always been that way.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 3:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
Wow! What a thrill for Robert Yates after the totally crappy year he had last year. Both cars on the front row! AWESOME! He says this year is going to be his last and he wants to go out on top. Well, he's off to a good start!

With Boris Said, Sterling Marlin, and Johnny Sauter claiming three spots, things aren't looking so good for the Toyota bunch.

With 35 cars locked in, only two of the 8 Toyotas are in for sure. Dave Blaney, who is in the top 35, and Dale Jarrett with a past champions provisional. That only leaves 4 more spots to compete for in Dual 150's.

I can't wait for Thursday! I love those Duals!