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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 12:41 pm
All I'm saying is that humor springs from adversity, and different people have different levels of adversity that they are willing to laugh at. Some people stop at slapstick comedy. Some find humor in things like Stephen Colbert who poke fun at very REAL problems in today's world. But all humor springs from adversity and you can't deny that fact. Slippery slope? Sure, but it depends on what kind of morality you have. Is taking a pen home from work the same as robbing a bank? It's all stealing, right? I just don't think anyone has a right to judge another's level of what they find funny or not funny.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 12:50 pm
Well, while I agree with Eeyore's last statement to a degree, there is so much distasteful stuff that some would find humorous. Should we not judge that?
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 1:17 pm
Do we have to judge everything?
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 1:20 pm
Marcheline Bertrand passed away at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. Marcheline died of cancer after a 7 and a half year battle. Angelina Jolie issued a statement today confirming the death of her mother. She was 56 years old. Angelina, her brother James Haven and Brad Pitt were with her at the time of her death. A private funeral has been planned. Angelina is the daughter of Marcheline and Jon Voight. The family has asked for the donations to Women’s Cancer Research Institute at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in lieu of flowers. Only 56 ... way too young!!
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Babyruth
Member
07-19-2001
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 1:26 pm
Sort of off topic, but I hate how society still trivializes gay relationships by wording them like this article did, that they "dated for several years" when they were actually cohabitating and had exhanged rings.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 1:38 pm
I agee that humor often springs from adversity, BUT.. when humor comes at the expense of the adversity experienced by some other group of people, that's a fine line often best not crossed. Historically, humor often arose WITHIN various groups. There is certain dark humor I might share with another survivor of childhood ritual abuse, after knowing that person, that I simply would never put out for public consumption. And there are always choices that can be made to not offend groups of people. Humor doesn't have to offend. Entertainment doesn't have to offend, just to entertain others. And then there is the issue that some groups seem to be fair game and are just supposed to ignore humor aimed their way. I don't know that we have to judge so much as be thoughtful and evaluate. Well-meaning people often offend without meaning to do so. But when the offense is pointed out, then I'd hope that well-meaning people would re-evaluate the situation. Do people really enjoy humor that hurts others? Yes, sometimes they do. But, do they enjoy it because it hurts others? Unfortunately, yes, sometimes, some people do. --------- 56.. way way too young.
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 1:41 pm
I hear ya Babyruth. They made it sound like they went out for dinner and movie on Saturday nights. "Dating"...indeed. Sheesh.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 1:50 pm
"Do we have to judge everything?" I couldn't have said it better myself, Mamie. Who is ANYONE to judge another person? (with the exception of professional judges) Sure, we naturally judge other people, and I am the first one to admit I am guilty of judging others' behaviors. But I think we only judge to serve our own self-esteem and feelings of superiority or inferiority. I think that communication and education are the only paths to consideration. If you don't have any gay friends, it may be hard to realize how you hurt people by using the F-word as a joke, or saying something like "this party is so gay." Most people tip toe around the black community, because we have been educated to know that THAT brand of racism is absolutely unacceptable. OTOH, the Native American Indian isn't something people have been educated on, so the jokes still seem acceptable. Not trying to start a debate here on the subtle nuances of acceptable racism, as we've all been down that painful road too much the past few months. I'm just saying that in the context of humor, we can't worry about political correctness, and the things we DO consider unacceptable are due to being less ignorant about that "race's" plight.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 1:50 pm
I hear ya too, Babyruth.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 2:32 pm
We make hundreds of decisions during the course of a single day. We are constantly judging. That applies to other people's actions as well.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 2:57 pm
I think we judge a lot in this clubhouse. Virtually every thread has judgments in it. I mean we discuss things and we judge them. That Bernie Mac show was racist. That is my opinion. That's what our judgments are--our opinions.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 4:50 pm
Jermaine Jackson came in second in Celebrity Big Brother UK and Shelpa Shetty the bollywood actress came in first. Jermaine was a class act throughout the entire show. I am going to miss watching him every night.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 4:55 pm
I used to have the biggest crush on Jermaine when he was in the Jackson 5.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 5:07 pm
Mamie he was such a gentle soul on the show. His final words to the winner before he walked out of the house was "Kindness is a strength". Just a really good guy, very sweet.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 5:09 pm
It's nice to see that, isn't it?
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 6:01 pm
It's really good to hear something nice about such a well known celebrity. "Kindness is strength" ... I like that. I think that will be my mantra on Tuesday when I go back into mediation with my son's father. It's not Hollywood gossip ... but congrats to Roger Federer for winning the Australian Open again!!!

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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 6:06 pm
So, a few of you thought the Bernie Mac thing was as bad as I did and a very few of you didn't get it but a lot of you seemed to say that it was no big deal. Let me understand this ~ black face/hanging slaves = big NO NO but war paint/shooting indians = no big deal. Did I get that right? I think so. Thanks.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 6:24 pm
Latoya is amazing on Armed and Famous. She also has such a kind soul.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 6:56 pm
Pamy I think they were all raised that way. They are very respectful and I am amazed at how they will go out of their way to avoid being rude. Even where the host asked Jermaine if he would ever do big brother again, he didnt want to say no so he went on about how he had so many commitments and Davina just said, you are so polite. Jermaine certainly has given me a lot of insight into Michael Jackson
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Max
Moderator
08-12-2000
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 7:01 pm
and "Jimmy crack corn and I don't care" was removed from a cell phone commercial because AT&T/Cingular was told that it's a reference to a song used in old minstrel shows (aka, white men in black face) and therefore may be offensive to some. Yep, we're definitely (as a society) very sensitive about some things and very thick-skinned about others. Go figure. BTW, how dumb does AT&T/Cingular think we are? It used to be AT&T Wireless and then they sold the wireless unit to Cingular. Now they've combined forces and have adds about how Cingular is now AT&T. It's only been a few years back. I guess they figure no one remembers.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 7:12 pm
I think (very unfortunately) that you are right Chilli. It is sad. Frankly I am surprised that there is not more support here. Not only that there is not more support, but that you are even getting slack (as well as the apathy.)
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 7:12 pm
The problem may be that most people don't care unless it affects them personally. Then they want everyone to care.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 7:27 pm
Chili, it was dispicable. I am in agreement 100 percent. To quote a lyric from an old song, 'What the world needs now is love.' and lots of it. From time to time I see an old cartoon. I can hardly believe how cruel they are to segments of society. I know I was stunned that Simon Cowell didn't get canned on the spot for making fun of the unusual facial features of a contestant. It was just plain mean.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 7:44 pm
OMG! I thought the same thing, Ophiliasgrandma. I couldn't believe he would be so nasty about something someone has no control over. It's not like he dressed weird, sang bad or something else. I felt so awful for that young man. Simon Cowell is just horrible.
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Monday, January 29, 2007 - 9:04 pm
Daniel Radcliff ... aka Harry Potter is growing up and stretching is wings. He's doing a play in England where he is naked with a horse ... why of course! Good move for him or not???
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