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Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
Dlmmo, thanks for the link. I didn't know he was from Ireland either until I saw that on E. On E they stopped short of calling it a suicide.

His accent was very strong in real life. He did an amazing job covering it up on Roseanne. So sad what happened to him.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
I guess birkhead has now gone to the bahamas to try to get them to order a DNA test.

They can neither arrest him nor can a california court order someone in the Bahamas to have a DNA test.
That is why he is going to the Bahamian courts.

They could take a DNA sample and keep it from Anna Nicole and release the body. It is just a gross misuse of power and authority if you ask me.

If she is not being used in a criminal investigation, I don't see how they can "keep" the body. I do know both her mother and stern want the remains. You'd think her mother being her next of kin and not stern, would get to decide on her burial, etc.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Stern and Anna Nicole's attorney are the executer's of her will. Daniel is buried in the Bahamas, so I'm sure Stern wants her buried next to him, imo.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
I was devestated when Glenn died! Loved him on Roseanne and even more on Angel (bawled like a baby when they killed him off that too!)

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
I feel Anna should be beared next to her son, I think the mother just want her in texas, so she can get more famous having her in Texas. I feel that she should be with her son not the mother. I hate to say this, but it looks like Stern is going by Anna's wishes which it should be.

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
I think it is pure "mean" for Anna's mom to fight to have her body kept away from being bury'd next to her son... That would be the most cruel thing ever, it would be a spite move in my opinion.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I agree Chew, she deserves to be with her son, if not for her then for her daughter to know that her mother and brother are together.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I agree Anna should be buried next to her son, it's what Anna would want.

However, I also think that DNA testing should be done, and Larry should have some parental rights if he is indeed the dad.

Look, Anna TOLD Larry he was the father. They went to doctor's visits together for the first several months, not Howard. Larry bought maternity clothes with her.

Then SHE changed her mind and wanted a life with Howard. Well, too bad, you made the baby with Larry, you have to let him be the dad unless he can be shown to be unfit.

At one point, Anna even called a realestate developer she dated, and asked HIM to be on the birth certificate, which he declined (since he had a vasectomy and was sure he wasn't the dad).

Anna had some real issues. Maybe the Marshall sperm is the dad, who knows? Maybe she didn't want anyone to know that, but why?

I have no doubt that Howard is not the father, which means he lied about it, which doesn't do much to make me trust him.

Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
Sounds like Anna probably didn't know for sure which man's sperm fathered her baby, either. Where's Maury Povich when we need him?

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
But, Kar, is there any proof as to the truth of the allegations of Birkhead or the real estate developer? I have heard anyone corroborate anything they've said.

I'm not doubting Birkhead had an affair with Anna but that's about it.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
From what I understand, Anna was furious with her mother. I don't know what went on with her mother, but I think she should back off.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 3:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
I'd like to see Anna's mother come up with the money to move the body to texas and pay to have her buried.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Anna's Wishes

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 4:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
NT, Larry has receipts for maternity clothes, they were shown on ET. Also, there is a police report of a distraught Larry Birkhead driving to Anna saying to the policeman "my pregnant [girlfriend] is sick", that was back in April of last year. Larry explains it was after Anna and Howard had a fight when she told Howard she thought Larry was the father. Also, there is a female friend of Anna's who claims Anna told her Larry was the father as well. Can't remember her name.


The real estate developer has also said that after he told Anna HE couldn't be the dad, she confessed to him that Larry B was the dad. This is the same guy who owned the house that is now under contested ownership in the Bahamas. (Ben Thompson?)

Also, at the beginning of Anna's pregnancy, she appeared on Larry King and denied that she even had a love relationship with Stern.

But proof doesn't matter, he's just asking for a DNA test, and that will be all the proof he needs. If he didn't really think he was the father, or at least could be, there would be no point in him pursuing the DNA test (if he knew there was no chance it was him).


She certainly had a complicated love life!

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
NASSAU, Bahamas -- Howard K. Stern hit several setbacks Tuesday in the continuing battles being waged since Anna Nicole Smith died Feb. 8. His sister said that Smith had told her she was uncertain of the paternity of her daughter, Dannielynn. And a court here barred Stern from taking Dannielynn out of the country.
Stern's sister speaks:

Bonnie Stern says Smith told her months before Dannielynn's Sept. 7 birth that Larry Birkhead could be the father. "When I spoke to (Smith) in March, when she found out she was pregnant, I took her shopping, and she told me the baby was due in mid-October, and that one other person could have been the father and that was Larry Birkhead, but nobody else."

What it means: Smith herself expressed uncertainty about her baby's father, which could bolster the freelance journalist's case. And the other men who claim they may be the father may lose credibility.

Legal moves 1:

Virgie Arthur, Smith's estranged mother, got a court injunction from the Bahaman Supreme Court barring Stern from taking Dannielynn from the Bahamas. The baby's Bahamian birth certificate lists Stern as the father, but Birkhead filed suit here Jan. 30 saying the document is a fraud.

Attorney Wayne Munroe, who represents Smith's estate, says Dannielynn "has never been out of the country and there are no plans to take her out."

What it means: It's a move designed to ensure the child is accessible if a DNA test is ordered on Birkhead's behalf in the Bahamas. "I want Larry to have custody of the child," Arthur said, minutes after the judge granted the injunction in a closed door hearing. But with Stern named as father on the birth certificate, he currently has a stronghold on custody. And, "I'd like to see the baby," she said as she fought back tears. Stern so far has refused.

Legal moves 2:

Smith's mother also hired Coral Gables, Fla., lawyer Stephen Tunstall and filed suit Tuesday in Florida to get custody of Smith's body.What it means: Since Stern is not legally married to Smith, Arthur, who is the only next of kin, may be able to claim the body. But since Birkhead has already gotten a court order to hold the body until Feb. 20, nothing will change before then.

Legal moves 3.

Birkhead filed suit Tuesday in Florida and will soon hit the Bahamas to "domesticate" court rulings made in Los Angeles. An L.A. judge has already ruled that DNA must be collected from Dannielynn by Feb. 21 for a paternity test. At a Feb. 20 hearing in L.A., the judge may rule on Birkhead's request to collect DNA from Smith's body.

What it means: Authorities outside of L.A. and the USA would have power to enforce court orders made in California.

Birkhead speaks.

Birkhead told New York's Daily News that he is "sorry I couldn't save (Anna and Daniel). I tried." He says he and Smith were meticulously planning for the baby's birth before she left Los Angeles early last summer. A Birkhead family member tells the News that he had threatened to sue for custody of the unborn child if Smith did not seek treatment for substance abuse. Birkhead believed that Smith had checked into a residential rehab center, but instead she moved with Stern to the Bahamas.

What it means: There may have been a history of substance abuse while Smith was pregnant.

Stern speaks.

Stern issued a statement against those who took personal items from the Bahamian mansion he shared with Smith. The missing items included photos printed in the Nassau Tribune showing Smith and Shane Gibson, the Bahamian immigration minister who fast-tracked her residency application, in suggestive positions.

"To suggest any intimate or improper relationship between Gibson and Anna Nicole, particularly by publishing pictures stolen from Anna Nicole's house less than 24 hours after her death, is truly reprehensible," he said.

What it means: Stern says items are still missing, and others could surface. Police are investigating the robbery complaint filed by Stern.

Police tape.

The Hollywood, Fla., police department released the 911 tapes recorded the day Smith died. "She's not breathing, and she's not responsive. She's, um, actually Anna Nicole Smith," the woman from the Seminole Police is heard saying. Paramedics were there in six minutes.

What it means: It sheds very little light into Smith's death.

Final film:

Illegal Aliens (MTI Home Video) will be released in May, but the distributor says the timing has nothing to do with Smith's death. "The film was already announced and being sold to key retailers," says MTI's Ed Baran. The sci-fi comedy has three aliens morphing into "super-hot babes." Smith's son, Daniel, was associate producer, and when he died, the team decided to wait until May and dedicate it to him.

What it means:Illegal Aliens "may just be the Abbey Road of films for Anna Nicole Smith fans," says executive producer John James.

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Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
www.tmz.com

I don't want to copy and paste this. check it out for yourselves.
A nanny is saying that ANS purposely under fed the baby because she wanted her (the baby) to be sexy.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 4:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
"my pregnant [girlfriend] is sick"

My understanding is that he actually said "my pregnant wife is sick" when he was pulled over for speeding i.e., he was lying to get out of a ticket.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 5:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Wow, there is not very much at TMZ that I believe. If anything at all.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 5:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Tish, he claims that the officer wrote wife, but he said girl friend.

It may also mean that he said it spontaneously, BEFORE there was any legal fight over paternity.

At any rate, his story is backed up by a variety of sources; and in the end as I noted, there would be no reason for him to force a DNA test, and go to all this expense, unless he really thought he at least had a chance of being the father.

There are also receipts for drugs sent to the Bahamas for Anna while she was still pregnant, including methadone. I really feel for her, but she truly was a mess, adding credibility to the fact that Larry may have given her an ultimatum - no drugs or alcohol while you're pregnant.

Personally, I think Larry has the better claims here. Howard clearly didn't do enough to get her help while she was pregnant, or after. Drugs while pregnant, two suicide attempts after Daniel's death, and 105 degree fever and she's not taken to the hospital? Something doesn't smell right to me.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 5:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Could that methadone be what killed Daniel? I know that here in CA if you have drugs in your system during pregnancy or delivery, then you don't get to keep your baby. Maybe that's why she was in the bahamas.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Escapee, that's what some are speculating, that she may fled to the Bahamas to have the baby to avoid losing custody.

I"m guessing her tox reports will show methadone too, when they come in.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 5:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I just can't back anyone who is backed by Anna's mother and Larry is. If he is the father and he gets the baby, Anna's mother will be all over him. There's 480 million reasons to.

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
Agree Twinkie... I cant stand that mom... If it was just Larry Id kinda feel sad for him, but with the mom involved I hate em all...Anna needs to be layed to rest next to her son.. Where's Kimmy???

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I'm still where I always was and now have Judge Judy on my side.. she was on Larry King yesterday and as she says, Anna is dead and her "wishes" don't mean much. What is important is one person. Dannielynn. And what is important for Dannielynn is to determine who is her father and no one should be able to take that right away. Period. She said iw would have been a no-brainer for her, as a judge on the case, to have called the court in the Bahamas and talked to the judge and cut through all the crap.

I don't like Anna's mother at all but that feeling shouldn't keep Dannielynn from knowing who her father is and from being with her real father.

Also revealed last night by Howard's sister. Supposedly he wasn't on payroll, never took money from Anna, because all his fees will come on contingency when the court case is settled. Who was supporting Howard? His parents!

Great father candidate, hmm?

Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 8:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
I see Annas dad has now come out of the woodwork.

Shame on her mom for trying to take the body. She needs to be next to Daniel