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Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 4:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
The thing is the prescriptions. If it is true that they got the prescriptions in another name to protect her privacy, I have to think that is illegal. Some doctor is guilty of filling out false prescriptions and Howard is certainly guilty of the same if he was getting them filled for her.

If these illegal prescriptions contributed to her death, I am guessing Howard will have to get himself a good lawyer.

All of this is guess work of course since the toxicology is not in yet.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 5:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
And there are still rumors that some of the scripts are in Howard's name.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 5:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
does anyone here have any doubt that this wont show up as a law an order episode in the next few months.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 5:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
Probably next month.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 5:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I'm torn between being truly disgusted with the black hole of a userious lifestyle that ANS led, and feeling very sorry for her over the confluence of events that led to her death. It's hard to determine who sucketh the most - was it Anna, who spent her adult years using every carbon-based lifeform who could fog a mirror and also had beaucoup bucks to support an uber- trashtastic lifestyle? Was it the family (read mother) who informed and fed her desire to lead this kind of life based on what it could do for them (or fueled her desire to separate herself from them?) Was it the thieving band of hominids she surrounded herself with during her later years, none of whom cared enough to notice that she was dying of pneumonia and drug abuse right in front of their eyes?

I get the impression that the only person who really loved ANS in her entire life was her son, and vice-versa. And the day he died, she went with him. It was just a matter of how soon. Maybe the leeches around her really didn't have the ability to intervene, 1) because they were leeches and didn't have the standing to intervene with their host and 2) because she just plain wanted to die and she was going to let it happen one way or another.

Nonetheless, and regardless of her own self-destructive behavior, the last months of her life were truly a tragedy. And the horrifying reality of the people she was surrounded with during her lifetime, no longer leeches sucking off a host but vultures picking over a carcass, adds an almost Shakespearean quality to the entire scenario.

Athina Roussel was lucky. Her mother (Christina Onassis) was every bit as screwed up and her father was a gigolo, but at least she knew who her father was and there was a board in place to protect her financial interests independent of her father. Dannielynn doesn't stand much of a chance of growing up with any sense of normalcy that I can see. The only chance for that is "none of the above."

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 5:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I am not so sure I agree about Thierry Roussel. From everything I read, he gave Athena a normal family life with sisters and brothers. Did he two time Christina with his current wife? yes. I dont think there was ever any doubt that he cared for Athina and I think he would have wanted her regardless of whether her mother was a multi billionaire or not.

In Dannielynns case, I wonder how many would be stepping forward if there was no money involved.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I actually appreciate how Thierry Roussel raised his daughter. She was shielded from the limelight and given a warm home in which she was raised. Her father was a profiteer, nonetheless, and I can't help think that his behavior helped Christina toward her early death. He seems to have turned into a decent father nonetheless.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
you dont think it was the crazy russian marriage that threw her off? or the drugs? or the mother's suicide? or the brothers death in an airplane crash, or the ballooning weight and manic dieting, or maybe it was just having Jackie O as a stepmother. There were just so many roads downhill for Christina, she didnt have a chance.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 6:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
All of the above, Maris, including Roussel - no one left out there who really loved her. Same as Anna Nicole. Too many downhill roads to decide which was the last one that finally did her in.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 6:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
true.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 6:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Apparently Virgie has decided not to file any further appeals, so that Anna can be laid to rest on Friday in the Bahamas.

Apparently the Bahamian court ordered Howard to allow Virgie to "see" Danniellynn, so that's what he did. She came in, she saw Danilynn sleeping, watched her sleep for 15 minutes and left. Howard refused to allow her to wake Dannie up.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 6:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Just a trivial FYI, but ANS's death certificate confirms her level of education was grade 8 (or less). www.TMZ.com

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 6:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Well that's a mixed bag of information there, Karuuna. Thankfully the undisputed mother is finally going to allow the carcass of her daughter to be buried within less than a month of her death, because basically she doesn't have much choice and now would like to appear gracious. But the VERY disputed "father" is preventing the undisputed grandmother from enjoying the first few minutes of visitation she's had with her granddaughter since the day she was born. And he's prevented the person who appears to be the real father from proving his claim or from seeing his daughter at all.

How special.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 7:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I have to say, I wouldn't have woken my baby up either. I probably would have allowed the person to come back when the baby was awake but wouldnt have woken the baby up.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
GAL, Larry Birkhead has spent time with little Danilynn, quite a bit more than mom. I assume that may in part be the court order, but has much to do with the fact that Larry and Howard have been cooperating and speaking since the end of the event that was held in Judge Seidlin's court. Larry apparently saw his daughter before the Bahamian hearing.

And Larry and Howard have been cooperating on funeral arrangements as well.

See, if Virgie hadn't been such a pill about this whole burial thing, stating clearly her intent to in death much as in life to completely ignore her daughter's feelings; and had held up the agreement they all reached on the day Seidlin ruled, I think Howard would have been more generous with her also. But given her behavior, I imagine he is being no more kind to her than she is being toward the man she has stated murdered her grandson.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Interesting, Karin. I haven't heard much of the case since Seidlin ruled, I didn't realize Larry had access to the baby since then (I don't believe Howard would have given it voluntarily, it had to be the result of court-prompting. If not, Howard had to be thinking Larry might let him press the claim against the Marshall estate on behalf of Dannielynn.)

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 8:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
Godess, if i ever need a press secretary, i'm calling you. i love your writing.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I loved that Howard said there was no way he was leaving Virgie alone with the baby. It was Anna's express wish that her mother never touch her baby.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 9:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
GAL, I'm not sure. I think Howard doesn't want to be a dad, and don't think he ever wanted to be a dad to Larry's baby. It's pretty clear he knew all along it wasn't his baby. The ruse was to please Anna, he seemed to pretty much give in to whatever she wanted. Now that she's gone, he can give the baby to Larry, and try to hold onto the money.

Not that I don't think he loved her, I think he did. It was the kind of longing, unrequited love as she ran around with everyone else under the sun. He finally got what he wanted, *all* of her (her and the money) by claiming to be the dad.

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
I just don't know what to say.

Anna's Diaries

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 9:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    

quote:

does anyone here have any doubt that this wont show up as a law an order episode in the next few months




Maris, when the trial for custody of her body was going on, I was imagining a broadway musical in the works, and after it was a hit, the movie.

Sort of like The Brady Bunch movie w/ dancing Seidlans instead of Itos popping in and out.

The poor daughter. I hope there is some hope for her having a somewhat normal life.

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
On ET Howard said Larry has been a big help in arranging Anna's funeral, and I don't blame Howard for not waking the baby up let her sleep. I do feel he is trying to go to by Anna's wishes for the baby, I am sure he has done some nasty mistakes.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 7:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Grooch, I read that article and it's sickening to see how the vultures circle.

I know Anna Nicole was no angel and she certainly gave plenty to speculate about, but I just don't understand how people get so much glee out of picking every little bad thing apart and I'm sure adding to what's not exciting enough. Personally I think there are two reasons for the way she has been treated in death - first and foremost is the money (I wonder how long it's been since the sisters had communicated with each other) and I also think it gives some a feeling of superiority.

What's sad is that Dannielynn will eventually learn about all of this and I can't imagine the problems she will have because for her to grow into adulthood unscathed by all of this is impossible. I just hope that she has the support she will need.

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 8:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
NT, I totally agree w/ you.

And they are all circling around the money and who knows if there is going to be any? I wonder if they will still want her then.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
It would be great to have some of this presented in court during Virgie's custody request:


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It shows her drug life as a kid. Her doing pills as a kid. She was sure close with Virgie Arthur in those days, and mama was not what you'd call one of the all-time best role models in captivity. We're talking heavy-duty partying together. Drinking together.