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Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, January 01, 2007 - 9:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Dove what, Ddr? Isn't Dove a soap?

And why not use soap?

Landi
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07-29-2002

Monday, January 01, 2007 - 9:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landi a private message Print Post    
soap is too drying. and dove is 3/4 beauty cream juju (don'tcha ever watch the commercials?

hermie: here's what i do. cetaphil for the face, i use neutrogena dermabrasion machine thingie for baby butt face skin. for makeup, Bare Essentuals and nothing else for the last 5 years! and holly does the same!


Abby7
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07-17-2002

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 12:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
SEVERAL years ago i purchased the first edition of this book: (i see this is 6th edition):

http://www.cosmeticscop.com/shop/books.asp?CODE=DG6

her first book was very helpful (to me) regarding buying certain cosmetics/facial products (and products w/same ingredients but higher prices just because of the expensive packaging).

i haven't checked out her website lately, but i think she answers many questions.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Good skin care is key first. I really think you should talk to Spy about MK. Their skin care line is very gentle, yet effective, and also very reasonably prices. I found Olay to break me out. Wearing an SPF of at least 15 is mandatory! Unless you are a vampire and NEVER go out in the day light, you must wear it every day, no discussion, end of story!!! I think exfoiliating is a must too, but you need to be very careful about overdoing it. You can cause more bad than good. I have rosacea so I use a very gentle product by Peter Thomas Roth line. I also use Eucerin Redness Relief cleanser (drugstore), it's a very mild, cheap cleanser. Two other good drugstore brands are Cetaphil (if you skin is on the drier side) and Basis (it's a gel that really cleans without stripping). Eye cream is a must also, that's wear the first sign of aging occurs on most women.
I love Mac and Prescriptives, but agree with Pamy, if you have to watch where you spend your money, spend it on good brushes! Good brushes can make bad makeup look good! I have been a Prescriptives foundation wearer since they came out with their line in the 80's. I love their most recent liquid foundation Flawless and they have a wonderful powder foundation called Multiwear that is incredible. I am old, sun damaged and with rosacea and both make my skin glow!
I know alot of people have great luck with BE, but the bismuth in it gives me the itchies something awful.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 3:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
MK has that affect on me, Tex. :-) Last MK party I went to the first cleanser we used turned my face the color of a lobster! The gals I was with (and me) cracked up laughing, but it sent the older MK lady into a right tizzy. :-) She was worried sick the rest of the night that anything and everything I put on my face would have the same reaction. I went for the fun and friends, not the MK, so it truly wasn't a big deal to me.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 4:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Well, I'm trying that Lumene line so we will see how that goes. I wasn't that thrilled with the lipstick. It just didn't seem to go on evenly. I'll try a brush application tomorrow and see if that makes a difference. Everything else seemed fine and I really liked the base foundation. It was very light. I hate heavy base.

I did get a lot of compliments today, though! ROFL! Four people-- three women and one man-- all told me I looked very good today. I think one of them used the term "glowing"! It had to be the makeup because I think I put on 5 pounds over the holidays so I feel all rotund and bloaty.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 8:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I never liked any of the Mary Kay products. They used to do Bad Things to my skin. I know some folks swear by them, and my skin isn't sensitive, but something in their products just doesn't agree with me.

It's amazing what a new skin care regimen can do for your skin. And makeup, too. Glowing is good!!!

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 - 8:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Thanks, landi! And no, I don't watch commercials. I always get up and run around and do something. And I don't really watch that much television, maybe only an hour a day.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Pamy is correct about brushes, you can make drugstore makeup look like the truly expensive stuff with the right set of brushes. A good concealer brush is worth its weight in gold, and my newest favorite is a thin angle brush I wet and use to line my eyes with powder shadow. creates a much softer line. Working with brushes effectively takes time and patience if you are used to using sponges. But it's much better for your skin (no pulling on the delicate eyelids) and looks much more natural as blending becomes much, much easier.

Skin care: my granny of the flawless skin always told us that it was important to choose and use one basic line of products in the manner and order they are prescribed rather than mixing and matching different product brands/treatments. I generally will use Murad products, they are heavy on fruit acids and exfoliants, but they are expensive. Less expensive but still excellent is the Merle Norman line of facial treatments. Their AHA exfoliator is fantastic. I started using alpha-hydroxies in my mid-thirties, and although much of my shit might be headed south, I don't have a single line on my face. If you are looking at products that sport alpha-hydroxies, make sure the content is 8% or higher, preferably 10% if you want to see real results (but this is only if you have hardy skin, not delicate and easily irritated).

Retinol - don't bother with department store brands that offer retinol, as far as I know the only retinol that makes a difference is prescription strength. I use prescription strength under my daytime moisterizer. It is recommended if you use retinol, you should alternate with an exfoliater to remove the dry skin.

Facial treament should be applied with an upstroke on your face so that it enters the pores. Makeup base should be applied with a downstroke so it doesn't clog the pores. Your concealer should be 1/2 shade lighter than your makeup base. My girlfriend who is a Bobby Brown makeup artist insists that your concealer should act as your base around the eyes, and your base makeup should start blending in just above the cheekbones.

As far as finding good brushes on the cheap, most outlet malls will feature a makeup outlet or two, and they usually will carry several lines of brushes for reduced prices. You may still wind up paying $15.00 for one brush, but the same brush in a department store would run you $30.00 easily. Natural hair brushes work best - you won't find them in drugstores. A big, fat, bronzing brush is critical, and with bronzing you need to remember your neck - dust the color down your neck and across your collarbone a bit so as not to have a tan face that bears no relation to the skin on the rest of your body.

Back to base makeup - as everyone knows, it needs to be as close to your natural skin color as possible. The function of base makeup is to hide uneven tones, not to create new color. The more reddening or discoloration your skin has, the thicker the blend should be of the base you use. Not darker color - thicker blend. Use a good moisterizer with SPF underneath always, and if you wish a light-diffuser around the eyes. Sponges are cheap and essential to applying a good basejob. A good basejob is 90% of the battle toward creating a flawless look. The sponges really assist in blending the base into the hairline and down onto the throat, as well as giving you an even and not-too-thick coating.

My life got much easier when I discovered shadow base. The kind they sell at the drugstore is just fine and works as well as any department store variety. What it does is create a smooth surface on which to apply shadow, and once the shadow is applied keeps it in place. I've never had to reapply shadow after using a shadow base. Learning to use brushes is much easier with a shadow base.

Ummm, I could probably babble for hours about makeup. Wait, I just did and I haven't even started on lips. It's great fun to start over and create a new look and regimine. Good luck and I hope we get to see pictures.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 9:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Hahahaha! GAL was in chat the other night when the board was down, and I was praying for the board to come back up because I said I had to check the makeup thread because it might change my life. I don't know diddly about makeup applications, and I may be too old to start learning now. Or maybe not.

Where do you people learn all this shit? Can we say shit here?

Thanks, GAL. Feel free to rattle on further.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 9:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
i went to makeup school but learned most of the beauty stuff in mags and books

i might get brave and post before/after pic of me...then you will see WHY I read those books and wwent to school! LOL

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 6:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
i LOVE makeup (said in my best imitation of Gary Sayers talking about Brian Piccolo LOL)
Sephora is one of the most wonderful places in the world! Their brand of brushes is pretty good. The Sonia Kashuk line at Target has some really nice brushes at a good price.
My splurge brushes are MAC, Bobby Brown and Laura Mercier! My latest addiction brush is the little kabuki brush from Benefit.
I love makeup!!!!!!

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 6:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Fascinating. I've never been much of a makeup wearer. Only when I was a teen I'd put on eyeliner and use vasceline on the lips, eyebrows, and eyelashes. Now I get the brows waxed and still use the vasceline there and on the lips.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 7:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Juj, I learned much of what I know from my Mom and grandmother, Mom's expertise is stage makeup and color and Grandma was a product guru - she was a model in the 20's and 30's and later sold the stuff for a living. Her favorite line was Germaine Monteil, as was mine before it became difficult to find.

The rest I've learned from the girlfriend I referenced who is a Bobby Brown-trained professional makeup artist. I take a lesson from her at least once per year to keep up on the latest makeup trends/techniques (light diffuser was the new black last year). Oh, and lots and lots of reading like Pamy, mostly on new product lines.

Mocha hit on my next diatribe - lips and eyebrows. I'm no expert in shaping eyebrows, but there are several lines of brow powder out that will cause you to throw out your eyebrow pencils once and for all. Gotta run hope everyone has a great day.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
I never did eyebrows until BE -- now I actually use an eye shadow (faux fox) as my brow color! :-) Put it on w/a brush, put the brow gel over it a VOILA! It matches my hair color perfectly. :-)

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 8:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I use eyebrow powder, I use with wet brush and draw in little lines

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Good Lord! I will never learn all this stuff.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 10:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I wear almost no makeup, but what I wear I absolutely love. I've worn Cover Girl fondation since I was 16. I've tried other, more expensive kinds and didn't like them nearly as much. Then blush applied with my favorite brush, and lipstick. I used to also wear eye shadow and mascara but I haven't in a couple of years now. I have extremely sensitive, dry skin so I do very little to it. I rarely wash it...maybe twice a week...the rest of the time I rinse it with water and then moisturize. Mind you, I'm at home all day so no makeup 99% of the time. When I get out of the shower I have to lather my whole body, including my face, with vaseline in the wintertime. In the summer, not so much. I can never use scrubs because they are too harsh for my face. My dermatologist told me to use as little water or soap on my face as possible and always moisturize. And, of course, it goes without saying, stay out of the sun. I wish I'd known that when I was a teenager roasting myself every summer. Ugh.

Bigd
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09-13-2001

Monday, January 15, 2007 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bigd a private message Print Post    
I just recently starting trying Dermablend products. I am using the foundation, setting powder, and concealer. So far I am very impressed. I have rosacea and have lots of red patches and this foundation covers beautifully. It's allot thicker than I am accustomed to so I have had some trials with getting it right, but so far I am very happy.

For moisturizer I have always liked Mary Kay Hydrating Gel, but a few months ago in a pinch I bought some Loreal Age Perfect and at half the cost of MK, I really love it.

GODDESSATLAW made reference to "shadow base" up above and that is where my problem lies. No matter what kind of eye shadow I buy I am unhappy with the performance. Could you please explain shadow base, tell me a product name, and a store I can buy some?

Crzndeb
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07-26-2004

Monday, January 15, 2007 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Crzndeb a private message Print Post    
Oh yippee....I love this thread. I have a skincare regimen that I swear by. I am almost 56 and people comment on how good my skin looks. I start off the morning after my shower with Skinceuticals C&E Ferulic and Hydrating B5 gel. Then it's either Avon Anew Daycream or Bare Escentuals Primer & a SPF 30 sunscreen...I just discovered BE about 3 months ago and love it. I didn't used to wear foundation, because it was just to heavy. But BE is so light. My nightime routine is washing w/a cetaphil cleanser (usually generic) and every other day, I use Alpha Hydrox Souffle (12% aha) and .05 Retin A. Avon Anew nightcream to finish...I know it sounds time consuming, but it really isn't, once you get into the habit.
I love MAC shawdows and pigments and good old Maybelline mascara.
And I totally agree about brushes...good brushes make all the difference in the world.