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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 5:02 pm
Chilli, I have no idea. Is it sad. Some kind of racism is more accepted than others (the ones that don't seem to matter are American Indians and homosexuals.)
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 5:05 pm
I just find it amusing that there is an in patient program for spew homophobic rhetoric. What will they think of next?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 6:47 pm
Don't you think it is a topic worth working on? Educating people? Isaiah may well be hopeless, I don't know.. since he didn't learn from the first problem, that doesn't look as promising as it might. I'd like to know what sort of counseling he is in. The GLAAD people seemed to think there was a reason to speak with him. I just don't think that people are born racists or homophobes.. as the old old song from South Pacific says "You have to be carefully taught"
quote:You've got to be taught To hate and fear, You've got to be taught From year to year, It's got to be drummed In your dear little ear You've got to be carefully taught. You've got to be taught to be afraid Of people whose eyes are oddly made, And people whose skin is a diff'rent shade, You've got to be carefully taught. You've got to be taught before it's too late, Before you are six or seven or eight, To hate all the people your relatives hate, You've got to be carefully taught
Now the question is, can it be un-taught? Does that matter? I'm not sure, meaning I'm not sure that even if it can be un-taught, he will be allowed to remain. I also think of Kent and Bunky from Big Brother. Kent came in as a definite homophobe and I don't know that he's ready to join P-flag, but I do think that prior to his experience living with Bunky, he'd have never invited Bunky to his home, so his kids learned something different, because their dad learned something different. As for Disney, they are known to be a very gay-friendly company.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 7:03 pm
Maybe Disney put him in the "It's a small world" ride for his rehab. It will either teach him love or he will come out hating everyone. I have never heard of anyone going into rehab for homophobic, racial or any other type of hatred speech. Is Michael Richards and Mel Gibson going to join him? Oh wait, Mel blamed the booze and went into rehab didn't he?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 7:30 pm
Just doing a search and I see headlines about him apologizing to the public, to his coworkers, meeting wtih GLAAD, issues statement. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6290081.stm
quote:Gay slur star meets rights groups Isaiah Washington took a break from filming to attend the meeting The star of top-rating US medical drama Grey's Anatomy has met with gay rights groups in the wake of his use of a homophobic insult. Isaiah Washington reportedly agreed to help educate the public about the cruelty of such language. Last October, the actor was involved in an on-set scuffle with co-star Patrick Dempsey when he allegedly used the term about fellow cast member TR Knight. Washington then angered TV bosses by repeating the word at an awards show. Kevin Jennings, executive director of the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), said: "He seemed very sincere in his interest in working with us in an ongoing basis. "We emphasised that this is not a one-shot deal, but an ongoing thing. He was very open to doing this." Apology issued According to Mr Jennings, Washington said he wanted to explore ways to work with GLSEN to address issues of "name-calling and how he might use his various platforms to educate people about how painful and wrong it is". Washington, a father of three, used the term "" about cast mate TR Knight during an on-set argument with co-star Dempsey. Soon after, Knight publicly revealed he was gay and said he was upset at what Washington had said. Washington reignited the controversy when he used the term again backstage at the Golden Globes as he denied ever uttering it. He later issued an apology after he was chastised by ABC.
http://www.showbuzz link
quote: "Grey's" Star Meets With Gay Rights Groups Isaiah Washington Meets With Leaders Of GLAAD And GLSEN "Grey's" Star Meets With Gay Rights Groups Isaiah Washington Meets With Leaders Of GLAAD And GLSEN "Grey's" Star Apologizes For Using Slur Isaiah Washington Says He Can Neither Defend Nor Explain His Behavior Jan. 22, 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaiah Washington said he'll meet with leaders of the gay and lesbian community to "apologize in person" for remarks he made at the Golden Globes. (CBS) Isaiah Washington, star of ABC's "Grey's Anatomy," is taking his first steps towards keeping a promise to reach out to the gay community after using an anti-gay slur at the Golden Globes last week. A spokesman for the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) confirmed to The Showbuzz that Washington met with the organization's leader and the leader of Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) Monday afternoon in Los Angeles. The meeting was arranged by ABC. "Isaiah understands that he is going to be judged by more than just his apology," GLAAD president Neil Giuliano said in a joint statement after the meeting. "He knows that his future actions — including the genuine first step that today's meeting represents — will demonstrate his sincerity in becoming part of the solution to anti-gay bigotry. We welcome the opportunity to work with him in the coming months to help improve the cultural climate faced by LGBT people across this country." Washington's publicist did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The meeting coincides with No-Name Calling Week, a joint project of GLSEN and Simon & Schuster Children's Publishing targeted towards fifth- through eighth-graders around the country.
That is a couple of the articles and none that I reviewed used the word "rehab". Tisha may have a link that does. But if we can get around the word.. counselling, discussion, reparation, education, community service/speaking.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 7:45 pm
Here is the link that I read Isaiah Washington has entered a treatment facility. This is what sources connected to ABC and Touchstone have confirmed to me, after Life & Style magazine broke the story about an hour ago. According to my ABC sources, one of the options the higher-ups at ABC/Disney had been considering was to release Washington from the cast of Grey's Anatomy, without giving him a farewell episode. However, I'm told by an insider that Washington agreed to do "whatever it takes" to keep his position at Grey's and to make amends with the gay and lesbian community. He also vowed to seek help for his psychological issues—hence, his entry into a treatment facility this morning.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 8:27 pm
And that isn't rehab. He isn't an addict.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 8:34 pm
There are people who can't be un-taught their issues, but the question is is it because it is so deeply ingrained in them or because they don't want to even try. My ex is probably the most bigoted person I've ever known, another thing he hid very well before we married. His philosphy is anyone who is not white is not as evolved as white people. It was taught to him as he was growing up. I was raised totally the opposite. Then I marry a man who refers to African-Americans using only that word. When a crime was reported, his first question was "was it a n-word." We had many huge arguments about his bigotry but I was determined my son would be that way. I'm happy to say I won. Travis' two best friends are African-American and they are like brothers. On the other hand, there is my second ex's mother. They are Hispanic and yes, I was dealt a lot of grief about this also. Anyway, I was still young when I met him and for whatever reason it never dawned on me that other races could be prejudiced against each other. It just always seemed like it was whites against everyone else. Well, I learned differently. My ex-mil was bigoted to the point of saying she could tell when "black people" cooked the food in a restaurant. So, while she was on a visit up here in Dallas I took her to a mall whose clientele was largely AA. While there I took her to a cafeteria where we were served by AA staff. I asked her how she like the food and she said it was great. I said "you do know that black people (this was the term used then) cooked this food." She didn't believe me so I after I pointed out that every employee that we had seen was black , why would she think none of the people in the kitchen were. She was horrified that she had ever believed that and I never heard this then 60-something woman make that or any other racist comment ever again.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 11:14 pm
N_t, congratulations on demonstrating to your ex-mil and she learning....
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 11:17 pm
Is the term "black people" not used anymore? I don't see anything wrong with it. Is there? Is it not the equivalent of "white people"? (Well except for the obvious distinction between the two!)
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Spygirl
Board Administrator
04-23-2001
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 5:28 am
Treatment facility is another term for a mental health facility, not a rehabilitation facility for addictive behavior alone. Of course there would be help available for someone wanting to change the way they think, feel, and behave. That is why people seek therapy.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 7:55 am
rehab is not just for addictions! re·ha·bil·i·tate Pronunciation Key tr.v. re·ha·bil·i·tat·ed, re·ha·bil·i·tat·ing, re·ha·bil·i·tates 1. To restore to good health or useful life, as through therapy and education. 2. To restore to good condition, operation, or capacity. 3. To reinstate the good name of. 4. To restore the former rank, privileges, or rights of.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 8:05 am
Julie, the term is still heavily used but I do know some African-Americans who will tell you they are not black. So, in order not to offend anyone, I wanted to clarify that this incident was before the term "African American" began being used.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 8:06 am
Was it ever determined whether or not he was drunk? Maybe that's the 'rehab' bit.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 8:21 am
Can all black people's roots be traced to africa? I thought the term "african american" is not very accurate. Currently I am working for the US Census Bureau and the terms they use on the forms for race are: "white" and "black" (there are more of course...) And in my experience, most people who are black/african american tell me "black" when asked. Curiously, most whites say "caucasian."
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 8:40 am
As I read it, Mr. Washington has had other angry outbursts on set, so he is going into treatment for anger management. Sorry I don't have a link....
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 8:54 am
http://www.tmz.com/2006/10/22/isaiah-washington-a-terror-on-the-set/41
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 8:55 am
Isaiah Washington -- A Terror on the Set? Posted Oct 22nd 2006 3:00AM by TMZ Staff Isaiah Washington got into it big time with Patrick Dempsey on the set of 'Grey's Anatomy.' Now TMZ has learned that Washington has had other on-set blowups. A simmering feud between the two actors bubbled over last week, when Washington reportedly got in Dempsey's face, said some "disgusting things," then allegedly pushed "McDreamy" against a wall and choked him. We're told the incident was so intense it shut down production for a short time. Now TMZ has learned of two other incidents that make Washington sound like "Dr. McNightmare." In the year 2000, Washington was shooting the TV show "Soul Food" for Showtime in Toronto. Washington and an actress, who played his wife, were shooting a scene in which Isaiah was supposed to give the woman a superficial kiss. We're told to the horror of everyone, Washington grabbed the woman and planted a "forceful, aggressive kiss." The actress became irate, which then infuriated Washington who began screaming at her. At that point the director stepped in to correct Washington, and the actor went off on him. Executive Producer Tracey Edmonds then took over and Washington went off on her. In 1997 there was yet another incident on the set of the TV show "High Incident." Washington was a guest star on the show, but we're told the gig ended abruptly after the actor had a physical altercation with a crew member. We're told it was serious enough that police were called. As for the "Grey's Anatomy" melee, there are reports that Washington taunted Dempsey by saying, "I'm not your little like [name redacted]," referring to a fellow cast member. Yesterday, "Grey's" cast member T.R. Knight revealed to PEOPLE magazine that he's gay, possibly prompted by public revelation of Washington's outburst.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 11:44 am
Some anger management work seems to be in order. And while rehab can have many meanings, the question was how can "rehab" help him work on the homophobic issues he has and implying that going into rehab was just a cover. With that implication it seemed as though rehab was being used NOT in a general sense of "all therapy and education". If that is the definition you are using now, then is it not appropriate for Isaiah to go to such a place (under the broader term)? I'm saying that hopefully he is going to get some therapy, counseling, treatment for that issue. And it sounds like the anger management issue may actually be even more to the point for those who have to work with Isaiah Washington. Sounds to me like he's got a primary issue with acting out on anger (and a lack of appropriate self-control, as evidenced by his grabbing the mic in his outburst at the golden globes) and in the process of doing that he may have thought he was just using that word in an angry manner to hurt someone, but has indicated (or his writers have indicated?) that he now sees that he has deeper issues (homophobia being one). Anyway I hope he actually gets some serious treatment for his anger and acting out issues AND explores the homophobia as well.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 12:36 pm
Again, it's an article by "staff" about incidents that happened many years ago. Does an anonymous staffer writing about reports from "sources" merit credibility? His 1997 and 2000 conduct sees the light of day only now?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 2:04 pm
Oh boy, I just saw a little clip of Paula Abdul saying that she has never been drunk in her life...
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 2:19 pm
She says she is just silly. She also blames Simon...
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 2:34 pm
I just received a breaking news alert that Nicole Kidman was in a car crash.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 2:35 pm
OK Treated and released.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 3:01 pm
Phew!
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