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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 1:27 pm
I'm always so sad to see that no good deed goes unpunished. If Ms Jolie adopts a child from a developing nation, she should have adopted an American one. If she adopts an American one, it should have been from a place that is destitute. If she adopts one from a place that is destitute, she adopt a white baby. Or a black baby. Or a Latino baby. Or an Asian baby. Whatever it is, there is no way she can win. She should have just been like Old Don. Keep reproducing until the reproductive system is used up and keep finding new vessels to carry your offspring every few years. And let the nanny raise them.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 1:28 pm
It was just a thought. It was more tongue in cheek than anything. If it is hard to do, they'd be the ones with the resources to get it done. I think adoption from anywhere no matter what is wonderful and deserves to go unjudged. I just wonder if it's the new "fad" to adopt like this.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 1:33 pm
I agree Tishala. Adopting in the US is not that easy. How many orphanages do you see in the US? Most of the kids are in foster care and many have not had their parental rights severed with the goal being to eventually get them back with their birth family. I say congrats to Brad and Angelina! I can't wait to see pictures of their growing family.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 3:01 pm
Angelina Jolie would not be classified in my mind as a "fad" adopter. She adopted her son Maddox after touring a refugee camp and seeing him. Her daughter is the child of parents who died of aids, who would adopt such a child in Africa, in the United States? Her new son is three years old, not an infant and if she didnt adopt him, he most likely would have spent his childhood in the orphange and what would his life have turned into? Each adoption she makes is with the other children in mind. I say more power to her. I think the whole fiasco of the paparazzi was probably due to someone in the orphanage being paid off, because normally there is no way the press should have gotten that close to her car. From what my friend told me today, the orphange has a huge gate around it, once you go beyhond the gate there is a long ramp downhill, the gate is usually kept closed he told me so in his view, having been there, he believes that someone in the orphange must have let the press inside the gates. I am not sure how she could have done things differently, once you pick the child up at the orphange you have to take the child to some other office and sign a book, and once the book is signed the adoption is formalized. Then she has to take him for his vietnamese passport and once that is done, she has to get an american visa for it. Each step of the way she has to take the child with her. It is sad that the press cant empathize enough to leave the child alone in what must be a very traumatic episode for him and stressful for the whole family. Maddox in those photos looked freaked out as well. I am betting that once she gets that boy home we wont see him for a few months, and then people will be speculating that there is something wrong with him, or angelina
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 3:03 pm
I admire Angelina Jolie very much for adopting these children. If I had her resources, I would have my own brood!
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 3:07 pm
I also wish I looked like her! 
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 3:07 pm
I just think she is an absolute saint. And if her actions jumpstart other's to do the same, then that is wonderful. I didn't mean for "Fad" to sound so bad. What a great fad it would be. I don't think Angelina does this for anything other than to help children. I don't think she does it for publicity or merit. And you know what, God Bless Brad Pitt for being a part of this. I hope they adopt many more children, all they can and start a huge wave of adopting! ETA: Hermi, if I could, and Dh was onboard with it I'd adopts and/or I would do Foster Care. I have seen what the "system" does to kids, and just by the grace of god I wasn't part of the system, but I could have been. Maybe someday adoption or foster care is something we can do, though, right?
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 4:06 pm
Angelina, the Mia Farrow of the 21st century.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 4:18 pm
Hopefully one of her adopted daughters won't run off with Brad Pitt. I'm sorry, was that a bad joke?
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 4:19 pm
ROFLMAO Hermione, now that would be hysterical, but I dont see Angelina going to court, she will go all Tomb Raider on him. They will never find that body.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 6:11 pm
ITA OG! I've been thinking EXACTLY the same thing for quite a while now. And I also think its wonderful.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 6:50 pm
I was thinking she's like Mia, too. I wish her the best, too. She's clearly an intelligent woman who is using her money from fame for worthy causes.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 6:50 pm
Preface this as: I don't have children, but I come from a big family and I am a middle child. Kids need at least some point in time where they are the focus of the family. They have the attention when they need it. Shiloh is what, 8 months old now? She has a huge deal of growing to do in a short amount of time. Zahara is around three, still at the age where she needs a huge amount of attention just to keep her from hurting herself. Why can't Jolie wait a few minutes and raise the kids she already has before adding more to the mix? I find it very unfair to the children she is already raising to indulge her need to adopt the world's children and deny her existing children the right to come first. Big families are great, and more power to her for having the urge. But at some point, particularly when the parents have busy career schedules, a bit of attention to the needs of the little ones, as opposed to the urges of the parents, has to come first. Do they have the funds to care for the kids? Sure. Do they have the time to give them individualized attention and nurturing? Not so sure. Not my decision to make, just my HO.
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 6:57 pm
Great post GAL and yes, I agree. I'm also a middle child and understand what it's like to be invisible, especially when there are more assertive or needy siblings.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 7:05 pm
Thanks, Gracie. I was afraid my post would render me an inconsiderate and selfish-type on the Board (and I might still be all of that). But with you on my side, I know my opinion is not unique and has some chops (I mean that in all seriousness). Middle children unite!!
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 7:12 pm
middle child here!!!! probably also explains why I only have one child.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 7:13 pm
I can understand that, too. This new child needs the time and privacy to get used to his new home, too. He's probably never been outside of his orphanage.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 7:30 pm
I hate to break this to y'all, but middle children do not actually exist. Jujumiddledawg
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 7:45 pm
Spread it middle sisters!! Can I get a witness?
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 8:14 pm
"Hopefully one of her adopted daughters won't run off with Brad Pitt. " No, he'll have left her for another co-star before Zahara is 15. GAL - ITA with your rant. I don't think those kids will have a quality life. Although it is true that any life they get with the Jolies will be better than if they HADN'T been adopted. Still, she's no mother of the year until we see her actually MOTHER those children.
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 8:21 pm
Heh, I've met Jujumiddledawg and Goddessnotmiddleoftheroad and am therefore a credible witness!
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Lyn
Member
08-07-2002
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 8:25 pm
Another middle child here. Personally, I don't care how many kids Jolie adopts, but do think she should allow for a longer adjustment period. A family's strength comes from love and bonding...by adding on to the unit in quick succession, that may take longer to happen.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 8:38 pm
I am also the middle child. I don't think it's fair to Shiloh or Zahara, really. Let them have a chance to be the babies.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 8:40 pm
I've met them too and I'll witness!
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 10:11 pm
What's so different about them adopting children this quickly and people who have biological kids close together? I personally liked having Caleb out of diapers by the time Kota was born, but I can think of plenty of families we know who have kids that close together, including a couple little girls who go to school with my kids, their parents had 6 girls in 5 years (Caleb's friends are twins.) Those girls aren't any less cared for or loved than Caleb and Kota who have close to two and a half years between them. I just think about all the pics I've seen of Brad and Angelina and the kids and everything I've read and it seems like they are really devoted to their kidlets and none of them are being neglected just because they have siblings so close in age. Even when they go off to shoot movies, aren't the kids usually with them? LOL, that's not overlooking the middle kid syndrome, that's a whole other can of worms I think. I grew up in a pretty weird situation, while I'm the oldest of two kids, we grew up in a multi-generational house (granny, her sis and bil, all three of her kids, and me and my sis.) Mom's younger sister is only five years older than me and through most of our childhood we were raised much like siblings. My aunt was often put in charge of us, as the oldest kid in the house, she walked us to our classes and walked us home, taught us how to put on makeup, and gave us first crush, first dates, and boy advice. She also tortured us endlessly and got away with it because she was the oldest, lol. My sister, the baby of the family, was babied by everybody. Been there on the middle child syndrome...when I was giving a speech in fifth grade, my aunt was getting ready for prom. When I graduated jr high, it really wasn't a big family deal because my aunt was graduating high school and my sister was graduating elementary school. We moved out of granny's house when I was 10 and suddenly I was the one responsible for getting my younger sis to class and helping with homework and babysitting, but even then my aunt was right there as the oldest kid.
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