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Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, March 23, 2007 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
How bizarre. It still doesn't work for me. I get an "object not found" message. Oh well.

Wasn't it the Enquirer that first reported she died of pneumonia?

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Friday, March 23, 2007 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
so what did they say she died of?

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Friday, March 23, 2007 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Here's the article:


Anna Nicole Smith died with a toxic level of the sleeping medication chloral hydrate in her system.

In a joint newsgathering operation, the National ENQUIRER and Star magazine have solved the mystery of the former Playboy model's death and provide a detailed portrait of her final days.

The world exclusive details come days before Broward County, Fla., Chief Medical Examiner Joshua Perper will hold a press conference to announce the former Playboy Playmate's cause of death.

The ENQUIRER and Star have also learned that Anna Nicole had a raging blood infection. The infection was caused by an unsterilized needle and contributed to her death.

The infection was so serious, it would have killed her if she had not overdosed.

Contrary to speculation, tests show Anna Nicole did not have methadone or any other painkilling drug in her system at the time of her death.

The ENQUIRER learned that just before she left the Bahamas for Florida on February 5, three days before she died, Anna Nicole received an injection in her left buttock.

Tests did not reveal what that substance was.

"As she boarded the plane for Miami, Anna Nicole developed a painful abscess at the site of the injection," said a source with knowledge of the case. "The needle wasn't sterile. The pain kept getting worse as the abscess got larger and larger very quickly."

From Miami, Anna Nicole and her live-in lawyer Howard K. Stern traveled to Hollywood, Fla. The pain from the abscess became excruciating and Anna Nicole developed a high fever.

By the time she got to the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino her fever was 105.

Anna Nicole, unaware that her blood was being poisoned by infection, had also developed a second infection from a virulent form of norovirus, which causes intestinal problems.

It was at this point that Anna Nicole — and her entourage — made a fatal mistake. She refused to go to a hospital, a decision that would have saved her life.

Instead, Anna's people gave her an ice bath to control the fever, administered the antibiotic ciprofloxacin by mouth and gave her an over-the-counter flu medicine.

As the needle-caused infection took over her body, she began vomiting, had severe diarrhea and could not urinate.

On February 6, a Tuesday, Anna spent the whole day in bed. She could not keep fluids down. She was becoming severely dehydrated.

On Wednesday, February 7, Anna seemed somewhat better, but she wasn't, the source said.

"She was still vomiting and suffering diarrhea," said the source. "Again, she spent the whole day in bed, as the abscess continued to grow. She was in such pain, she just wanted to sleep."

And that's when the final fatal mistake was made. Sometime overnight on February 7, Anna ingested the sleeping medication chloral hydrate. The drug is extremely potent. The dose was too much — and in fact it was a toxic level, the ENQUIRER and Star have learned exclusively. On Thursday, February 8, Anna never woke up.

A nurse found her unresponsive at about 1:30 p.m.

At 2:49 p.m., Anna Nicole Smith was pronounced dead.

Preliminary analysis indicated the cause of death was systemic sepsis syndrome, a lethal blood infection. It was caused by the abscess of the left buttock. Further investigation revealed the fatal level of chloral hydrate.

Chloral hydrate can cause depression of respiration, especially in a person who is already sick because of an infection and dehydration and it can cause death within a relatively short period of time.

Anna Nicole also had scarring from numerous injections she got in the buttocks.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Friday, March 23, 2007 - 4:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Texannie, VA's attorney, O'Quinn, was spouting how VA wants full custody and would let Larry have DL on summer vacations. He said they were making a deal with Larry. Nancy Grace tells O'Quinn that she just received a statement from Larry for O'Quinn. She said O'Quinn was stirring the pot and that Larry said he would make no deals with anyone when it came to DL. It shut O'Quinn up! lol

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Friday, March 23, 2007 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
When it comes to the rumors by the TH's and rag magazines to ANS cause of death, I think I'd rather wait for Dr. Perper on Monday. Isn't this the third COD that the NE has come up with? lol Dr. Perper, early on, said that ANS had no injection sites on her body and no obvious marks but a small bruise on her back from a fall in the bathroom.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, March 23, 2007 - 4:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Thanks Hyper, wish i had seen that! Love to see O'Quinn with egg on his face!

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Friday, March 23, 2007 - 4:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
i pointed out the report came from tabloids before i gave the link.

Mictay
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09-29-2006

Friday, March 23, 2007 - 4:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mictay a private message Print Post    
How and the heck can these people keep talking about deals....That baby is A person not A business transaction.I shouldn't say people,I should say their lawyers.I can't wait till this whole thing is over,and to quote Dr.Phil when this is all over that baby needs to be as far away from the media as possible,but that might not happen I guess it would depend on who her father is and who gets custody of her.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Friday, March 23, 2007 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I think that baby would be fine with just about anyone besides Vergie.

Mictay
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09-29-2006

Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 7:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mictay a private message Print Post    
I completely agree Twinkie.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 5:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Well today's the day we finally find out what killed poor Anna. News conference set for 10:30 eastern.

Mictay
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09-29-2006

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 6:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mictay a private message Print Post    
I'm just curious to know if anybody else saw Ford Shelly on Fox news on March 5,I watched a video last night on foxnews.com,and I had not see this particular interview before.He talks about someone taking pictures of Daniel after he died,I guess one of the computers taking out of that house had those pictures on it.Did anybody else see that interview?I've never even heard this before.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 7:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Watching the autopsy results now. He just runs on and on and on.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
accidental overdose

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 8:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Sad to say but the COD will make a lot of people very happy.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 8:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Geez, that woman was a walking pharmacy. Nine medications found in her system. Sleeping med was the main cause of death and combined toxicity of the many meds.

Whrlwnd
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10-13-2006

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whrlwnd a private message Print Post    
N_t, what do you mean?

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
I think Im a walking pharmacy too,... all legal,..but still I take quite a few meds... Im curious what all she was taking.. for depression, other health problems??... Its easy for them to add up..and befor you know it your taking a slew up stuff..

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 8:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
NT: It proves her mother right, doesn't it?

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 8:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Whrlwnd, just being catty I guess.

This morning the suggestion was that she had a blood infection and was in so much pain that she od'd on the pain meds. Made sense so where is the fun in that.

I've purposely tried not to pay so much attention to this as I had because I've just gotten tired of all the speculation about murder plots. Before we even knew the COD, Howard had already been tried, convicted and executed so many times I'm surprised he hasn't dropped dead. Now, the furor can continue. A fatal blood infection would not have been nearly as much fun except to accuse Howard of giving her the injection with a dirty needle.

Like I said, just being catty.

ETA: Escapee, I would never give Virgie credit for anything except as being a major factor in her daughter's tragic life. IMO, by watching her we've seen a cause for a lot of Anna Nicole's problems.

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 8:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
Broward County medical examiner Joshua Perper and Seminole police chief Charlie Tiger say they found nine different drugs in Smith's blood system, including Methadone, chloral hydrate (a hypnotic drug used for insomnia) and three different drugs used to treat depression and anxiety.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Benadryl, ativan, clonopin were some. Also longevity drugs - B12, human growth hormone - those were the ones given by shot in the buttocks. Diet meds (Trim Spa), I think. Antibiotics? Her psychiatrist friend gave her antibiotics and tamiflu for her high temp.

The current shot was not with the dirty needle. A recent shot perforated an abcess from a previous shot with a dirty needle - that's what caused the blood infection. There was no sign of blood infection at the time of death.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Vergie, was not right. I believe she was saying Anna was taking illegal drugs.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Clonopin is a drug used with bipolar disorder. It was given to Travis when he was hospitalized and for a couple of months afterward. It caused him to gain 20 pounds in two months and he lost it almost immediately after he was taken off of it.

Blood tests on my son would show 5 different meds. When he had strep a couple of weeks ago, it would have shown 7.

I don't even want to think how many meds would show in my dad's blood.

I don't know how much of these meds Anna actually needed, but I will agree that she was not using proper dosages.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, March 26, 2007 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
She was taking three benzodiazepenes (valium, ativan and clonopin); two muscle relaxants and benadryl. Add to that the sleeping meds, and you would see seven meds that all cause depression of bodily functions. All of these *individually* were within therapeutic levels as I understand it, although the sleeping med was at a very *high* level per the coroner. However, these were prescribed by several different doctors. In addition, her body was weakened by both the sepsis and apparently some kind of intestinal flu.

That's quite different than taking a combo of meds to control a specific illness, all prescribed by the same doctor. Just wanted to make that clear. :-)