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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 12:55 pm
Oh, at three she probably won't need formula ;). Here's the TSA link for the prohibited items (it has details about liquids for children): http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 1:27 pm
Wow, thanks Kitt! I'm printing that out for her now. It looks like you can even buy drinks (it says coffee and cokes but I'm guessing they probably have water and juice too) once you pass the security clarance area before you get on the plane. She was more concerned with the snacks because like me isn't above a little bribing for good behavior in certain circumstances, lol. I was thinking about the car seat and I'm thinking they probably would have to let the airline know ahead of time because they probably don't want someone with a car seat sitting in the middle where it'd be difficult for other passengers to get in and out of their own seats.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 1:32 pm
Yes, everything you buy once you pass security is allowed, so depending on what's offered in that area for her airport they could buy what they need. This might help you too: http://www.passporter.com/articles/childsafetyseats.asp
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 2:27 pm
I do know that child seats are NOT required on planes. As long as the child can sit in a seat, the lap belt is considered to be "enough". (Since there is no shoulder harness, they are not considered to be dangerous to children.) If their child seat meets regulations, they should go ahead and use it. If they get to the gate and it turns out the seat isn't allowed, they'll gate check the seat (you pick it up at baggage claim, usually). Anything you buy after you pass thru security is allowed on planes. This includes coffee, water, juices, and so on. (Thank goodness, too, since it was a ROYAL pain to wait to board with NOTHING to drink!) Once you're on the plane, they'll have juices and snacks (you can always ask for pretzels instead of peanuts, which may be a better snack for the kid). Definitely, goodie bags! With NEW toys or books, something that will keep the kid's attention. Take-offs and landings can be painful for small children, but if you can distract them till the flight reaches cruising altitude, that'll help (the others on the flight will appreciate).
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 3:56 pm
One thing about using a car seat on an airplane is that it usually boosts the kid up to just the right position to repeatedly kick the seat in front of them. I have flown with my child many times and have never hauled the carseat onto the plane. She just sits in the regular seat and watches DVD's on a small player I bought. I also pack stickers and lots of snacks she's not used to seeing for a variety. I would worry about the tray table not going down flat if the kid were in a big car seat. If you need a car seat at your destination, you can just check it with your luggage. And I pack gum to chew for take of and landings. Sippy cups can also be good for this.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 4:05 pm
OMG, the seat back kick! I swear, there would be a ton of childless parents if murder was allowed. I can't count the number of times I've asked parents to control their kids. Even asked to change seats on occasion. When I was hit by a car, and got to pre-board all the time because of my shoulder injury, I would end up sitting next to kids a lot (and actually, it worked out well, since they didn't take up their seat plus mine!). Anyways, I've found that the parents that prepared their kids (these are kids traveling alone) had the best behaved kids on planes. One time two brothers sat next to me. Each had his own DVD player, and they each carried a backpack packed with DVDs, books, and iPods. They quietly watched movies and/or read the entire length of the flight. I wish I could've told their parents how pleased I was to see such well-behaved kids on a plane.
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Justavice
Member
11-22-2005
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 4:08 pm
That says something about the airplane seat size when even a 2-year-old doesn't have enough leg room...
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 4:20 pm
Oh brother, my kids are heathens. Ok, so bring the DVD, books, snacks, etc. It's only an hour and 10 minute flight. Let me start apoligizing now for the way my children act. One doesn't sit still for a second, the other gets bored quickly.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 4:39 pm
Heck Escapee, for an hour long flight, I'd give em both some benadryl before you got on the plane and hope they sleep the whole way! Sis has an appt for youngest niece coming up sometimes soon about the tubes for her ears so she plans to discuss that with the doctor. They'd really like to have her sleep through take off and part of the flight if possible. If my youngest niece can kick the back of the seat in front of her, they haven't just shrunk leg room, they've taken it completely away, lol! She's pretty small, with stubby little legs. My oldest niece is an adult trapped in a childs body. She's the most unchildlike kid I know so I don't think there's much of that to worry about with her. Now maybe my sister, lol! This whole trip could be canceled tomorrow. Sis has been on bedrest for three weeks now and sees her dr in the morning. Not sure if they'll clear her to fly or not or wait and see what's going on with her health wise in a month or two. If they continue her bedrest and tell her she can't go, I may be flying out of town cuz she'll be very grumpy about that!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 4:48 pm
Believe me, kids do an excellent job of kicking seats 
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 5:02 pm
As many times as I have been tempted to give my kids benedryl for something other than allergies, I have never done it. I just can't bring myself to medicate my kids if they don't need medication. HOWEVER, the flight leaves at 6:40 in the morning, they might be asleep anyway.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 5:15 pm
Without a car seat, they can still kick the seat in front of them fairly well, but with a car seat, it's like they are elevated and that much closer to the seat in front of them. My friend did the car seat thing on an airplane with her daughter once and said never again! I wouldn't give benadryl unless you knew it would sedate them. My child has never slept on a plane, even when we flew right during nap time. just the excitement of being on a plane and going on vacation was enough to keep her wide eyed. She'd be wide awake and I'd be dozing off... Another thing I did was wrap little gifts for her and let her open one each 1/2 hour.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 6:50 pm
Escapee, I'll bet they don't sleep at first. They'll be too excited. And I'll give parents some leeway if they look like they are actually trying to control their kids. It's the folks (and I find many times it's the grandparents) who think that they are just TOO cute and let them run rampant, including running up and down the aisle. I understand it's tough for small children, but at least the parents (or grandparents) can TRY. Like I said, new toys or books or DVDs. NEW things will keep their attention for a wee bit longer. So, I'm traveling several times in the next few weeks. Where are you exactly? And where are you going, and on what flights? Just in case I need to change my itin... <BIG grin>
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 6:55 pm
I am with you there costa. I have seen parents letting their kids run wild on planes subjecting all the other passengers to their little indpendent children. My son flew 6 hour flights from the time he was 15 months old. He had books. crayons, when he was older game boys and it went well. An hour flight is not an eternity.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 8:43 pm
Actually, it's not just planes. When I was regularly commuting via Amtrak, I was appalled at the number of parents who thought the train was their child's private playground. Really, all they had to do was look around and notice the number of BUSINESS PEOPLE. Folks with laptops open, papers in front of them... working! The kids on field trips to the San Juan Capistrano mission were sometimes the worst. Their "chaperones" were useless. They were supposed to stay in one car (the end car, far far away from everyone), but they'd let the kids run up and down and up and down the stairs to the cafe car. Unescorted, yelling. Yikes!
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, March 02, 2007 - 7:21 am
I know, it is a pet peeve of mine people who dont control their perfectly healthy children in public. My son would run amok in the house with his friends but when he was outside in public he knew not to embarrass us and to act according to how his environment dictated. Kids running wild in stores, trains, etc. ---- not cute and not precocious
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Sewmommy
Member
07-06-2004
| Friday, March 02, 2007 - 7:48 am
I agree about kids running amok in public....drives me NUTS! My girls (6 & 10)have done lots of traveling since they were very little. The only problem with car seats on planes is trying to lift them up and over the regular seats while walking down the aisle. Especially while holding the travel(diaper) bag, purse and whatever else. It is worth it though, especially on longer flights because it offered a sense of security and was familiar to them. On such a short flight a dvd player may be a cumbersome extra because a entire movie may not be watched and could cause frustration for the kids if they can't finish it. But there could always be delays. Some things that have worked for us. Crayloa has those twistable crayons and colored pencils, they don't wear down. ColorWonder is great because you can't mark anywhere else. Many a great creation has been made with pipe cleaners. Blank paper and lots of stickers(peel the surrounding sticker stuff off and it makes it much easier for little fingers to peel off the stickers)
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Friday, March 02, 2007 - 7:56 am
Ditto that Maris.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, March 02, 2007 - 8:50 am
My best friend, whom I love dearly, pulled the "oh, isn't she cute" crap when Mia (her 17 year old) was tiny. We were at a fairly nice restaurant having dinner (Nancy, Johnny, my date, Nancy's son from her first marriage -- he was 11 -- and Mia -- who was about 2). Mia started having a bit of a fit, so Nancy gave her chopsticks. (Hmmm... we must've been at a sushi place.) Well, Mia started banging chopsticks all over the place, like a drum, and almost knocked glasses and other items over. Nancy took the chopsticks away and Mia had a royal temper tantrum! Nancy sat there cracking up, while I was horrified. I immediately grabbed Mia and went outside till she quieted down. Seriously, I was furious with Nancy for letting Mia even get that loud!
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Friday, March 02, 2007 - 8:52 am
Suggestion: PUT YOUR QUESTIONS IN RED CAPS SO THEY STAND OUT.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, March 02, 2007 - 8:53 am
and then costa there are the parents who believe in "self expression" to the pain of everyone else around them 
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, March 02, 2007 - 9:01 am
LOL Maris! And... ACK!!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, March 02, 2007 - 9:23 am
I've never understood parents who allow or even encourage their kids to misbehave in public. When we eat out, our girls sit at the table. They don't run around the restaurant, they don't climb on the chairs or look over the backs of booths. They are polite. What is interesting is that we find we get absolutely wonderful service as a result.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, March 02, 2007 - 10:01 am
those are the same parents who say 'they never act like this at home'! yeah right.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Friday, March 02, 2007 - 10:13 am
Hubby and I were the first ones to leave his office party because of the out of control kids. It was a family event so there were a lot of kids and the parents didn't pay the least bit of attention and the kids were WILD. And the boss's wife is a doctor and their kids were the worst! The screaming and running in the restaurant made me miserable so we left. Shameful.
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