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Riviere
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09-09-2000

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 12:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Riviere a private message Print Post    
No quibble at all, did you know it took Marilyn 25 takes per average to get one brief scene into a film and how many movies she was fired from? I never said she didn't do 'good work' when she was able but she was an actress pretending to be an actress pretending to act like umm, Marilyn in so many films she lost herself. If the role "Sugar" had been her only fame with more ahead... Sadly the innocent little girl breathless voice didn't play well forever... Thanks for the reply that shows mew you still read my views and are one of the most polite folks sharing threads.
~ Riviere

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think Marilyn had lots of talent, just got mixed up with the wrong crowd and they had far more power than anyone around Anna.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Marilyn had 'IT' and when you have 'IT' nothing else really matters. She was the queen of the 'IT factor'

I have 3 girls at work, 19-25 years old and they all have Marilyn pics all over their cubes.

I had Marilyn stuff everywhere when I was in my 20's. Something about her must speak to young girls.

I do think she wouldnt have been as interesting 30 yrs later if she didnt have the tragic death and sad stories in her life.

I still think she knew something and was killed

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Me too, Pamy. And she certainly had "IT". There is something to be said for never having gotten old. Natalie Wood vs Elizabeth Taylor. We never had to see Natalie or Marilyn hunched in wheelchairs.

I do think Anna had some of that same drive to be something.. anything, but don't consider her the equal of Marilyn. And Marilyn thankfully didn't leave behind unseemly lawsuits and oprhaned children.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I truly think she had a mental illness...an real, bonifide textbook mental illness.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
OG - I agree. I think it was a serious depression, complicated by addiction to drugs and alcohol. It makes me so sad that with all the possibilities for her life, all her assets, and all those who claimed they loved her, that she never got the help she really needed to get well, and to love herself.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 2:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
The ET interview where Anna Nicole was showing us her new house was so sad. The interviewer said "This is where your little girl will walk when she learns to walk." Thinking back on it, I wonder if that had been rehearsed for Nicole to say and she didn't feel like talking. She wasn't thinking about the future.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Riviere, you put it all in perspective with your 10:35 am post. You are so right!

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 5:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
R&B singer Gerald Levert's death last fall was an accident caused by a fatal combination of prescription narcotics and over-the-counter drugs, a coroner said.

The drugs in his bloodstream included the narcotic pain relievers Vicodin, Percocet and Darvocet, along with anxiety medication Xanax and two over-the-counter antihistamines, Geauga County Coroner Kevin Chartrand said. The official cause of death was acute intoxication, and the death was ruled accidental.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070210/ap_en_mu/people_levert

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 6:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I've had the thought that Anna Nicole went to be with her son. She related having multiple dreams/nightmares about him, where he is all alone since he died. I really think her dreams were telling her that she felt all alone, since she said he was her rock and the only one that could keep her on track. But I think she really believed her dreams of him were real...

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
I agree Karuuna, I also feel like H.S. is getting a really bad rap... I think "regardless" of their personal romantic life... whatever they may have had... I think that he truly was her closest friend and as much as she leaned on him, I think he is in a great deal of pain right now... I hate how people jump to conclusions about him... Nobody knows what kinda friendship they may have had.... I am just dreading that her Mom may get her hands on that baby, and Im sick of seeing her grabbing her "second in the spotlight over this", she needs to fade away.. I have a daughter and we are close, but they obviously were not--and for her to be giving interviews and all that is sickening to me... Allot of folks think H.S. is bad, but I really feel sad for him right now.. I think he may have lost his best friend... that is harsh...

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 7:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Chew, I'm just not sure about Howard Stern. There are a lot of questions. Did he work so hard to break up Larry B and Anna because he loved her, or because he saw the dollar signs? He was her attorney. He has also lied about the relationship Anna had with Larry, and kept her from giving the DNA test. They went to the Bahamas to have the baby, where others have said the man named on the birth certificate is considered the father.

Now the baby is hidden away in an "undisclosed location". Makes you wonder.

Anna obviously had serious issues, why not get her help? He had to see how bad off she was. Heck, anyone with eyes could see how bad off she was, even those of us who saw her only on tv.

Maybe he really loved her, but there is a lot of info out there that makes him look bad.

On another note - it was very eerie to see her ET interview where she says she sees Daniel calling her in her dreams. Then she says she's afraid he doesn't know where to go, and that he needs her....

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
Regarding Anna Nicole saying that she saw Daniel calling her in her dreams and that she was afraid that he didn't know where to go & that he needed her ... it's obvious her grief was enormous!

I remember when my mother passed, 4 years ago tomorrow, the first summer that came I cried at her grave site and was concerned about her being so hot in her grave. No, it didn't make sense but these types thoughts are normal when a person is deep in grief.

It's a shame that Anna Nicole didn't get grief counceling to help her through that awful time.

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
This is from www.perezhilton.com

Old man and the seed?
Anna's baby girl may be from sperm her
husband had frozen before he died at 90

Click here for all the details on this latest headline in the crazy Anna Nicole Smith saga!

Old man and the seed?
Anna's baby girl may be from sperm her
husband had frozen before he died at 90


Anna Nicole Smith's death became even more bizarre than her life yesterday as a series of bombshell revelations uncovered an ever-growing web of sexual intrigue - including the startling claim that her late billionaire husband may be the father of her infant daughter.
The stunning disclosure comes in a no-holds-barred manuscript written by her half-sister Donna Hogan obtained exclusively by the Daily News.

Hogan alleges that her sister froze the sperm of 90-year-old J. Howard Marshall years ago, and believes she may have used it to become pregnant.

The revelation topped even the unseemly paternity suit that raged in a Los Angeles court less than 24 hours after Smith's death.

The former Playmate's live-in companion and her former boyfriend Larry Birkhead both claim they are the father of baby Dannielynn - the little girl who could inherit up to half of Marshall's $1.6 billion fortune.

They weren't the only ones laying claim to Dannielynn yesterday.

Smith's mother, Vergie Arthur, flew to the Bahamas yesterday to see her grandchild for the first time. The infant had been left with friends in the Bahamas.

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Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 10:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
if you ever watched Anna's show you would have seen how Howard adored her. She was mean to him and he still stayed by her side...I believe he truly loved her. The reason he has been around when bad stuff happened is cuz he is ALWAYS around her

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 10:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
I agree Pamy, I think he must be hurting so much right now... I also think a person with addictions or depression can not be forced into help, they need to find that themselves.. I also think that you can be with a person for the longest amount of time and still not know every thing about them...there for you can not help them just because you know they may need help.. I think H.S. tried his best to be there for Anna and stuck by her thru many ups and downs.. I still think that he must be in such pain of her death.. She was constant at his side, her absence is going to be devestating for him.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 10:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
I think it was on Larry King that it was mentioned that Howard had been with her for 14 years? I also heard somewhere that she and Howard were to be married legally this month.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 11:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Hyper, Howard told the ET reporter they were getting married on 2/23.

As much as folks seem to be determined to blame Howard, ultimately Anna Nicole was responsible for herself. I watched her show and if Anna wanted to do something, she did it. If anything, I believe Howard probably kept her alive.

Birkhead said they were together for 3 years but I don't remember ever seeing him on the show. I did see the pics of them with Howard in the background and he was not a happy man.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 11:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Thanks NT. I don't get ET, but I know someone interviewed had said they received a wedding invitation.

Pamy and Chewie, I think Howard loved her too. You also can't help the person you love, if they don't want help, or think that they don't need help.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 12:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I think that regardless of what they find out killed Anna, she grieved herself to death. And I can understand that.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 7:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginger1218 a private message Print Post    
I also find suspicious that the nurse and the bodyguard were husband and wife. Perhaps hired by HKS to keep watch on her? Very suspicious to me.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Pamy, I watched that show too, and I agree. He put up with so much stuff from her. I seriously doubt he was the diabolical man just waiting in the wings for years and years and years to off her and her family, but yet leave an heir, when he could have had her make him her heir and done away with her years ago with nothing like the legal battle that is going on now.

Bandit
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07-29-2001

Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 12:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bandit a private message Print Post    
If you ask me, this theory that she impregnated herself with JHM sperm is preposterous. If she were doing that to lay claim to his money, then why would she say that HKS was the father?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 1:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I saw just now on tv that Dannylynn has been "reunited" with Howard in a secret place.

I don't doubt that he cared for Anna (but remember he was on the payroll, too) but a baby isn't a prize to be awarded, even by the mom. They need to determine who her father is and if it is Larry he has to be considered. He's been declaring parentage since the day Anna first announced on her website that she was pregnant.

However, I do hate to think that her mother might get her hands on the baby by default It was abundantly clear that Anna didn't want her mom involved at all.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Sunday, February 11, 2007 - 1:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
The Entertainment Tonight reporter is with Howard -- flew to Bahamas with him -- and is sending dispatches out.