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Karen
Member
09-07-2004
| Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:41 pm
What the HELL is wrong with people??? I'm just seething right now, perhaps this isnt' the best place for this right now... I talked to my brother last night. He has three kids (3, 5 and 8) and just got out of a messy divorce that was difficult on the kids. So he got them two dogs -- a (very expensive) purebread pug, and a yellow lab. About two weeks ago they received an anonymous complaint from the city; one of the neighbors had complained that the dogs were barking and making too much noise. Fair enough, OK, they quieted the dogs and kept them in at night, didn't dispute the claim and tried to make it better for the neighbors. Two nights ago, my bro went to let the dogs in for the night and found the lab shaky and sickly, dragging his stomach on the ground and drooling excessively. Panicked, he rushed the dog to the vet, where he died on the table at around 2am. Heartbroken, Jeff came home, trying to think of a way to tell the kids in the morning, when he noticed the pug doing the same thing. He died about an hour after the lab. The vet did a very basic test and found some toxins but wasnt' sure what exactly, and suggested Jeff call the fire department for fear of carbon monoxide or a gas leak. Fire dept came, pulled the kids out of bed at 4am, swept the whole house and yard, and found nothing. Vet's conclusive report isn't in yet but it was definitely a malicious act of animal poisioning -- some a$$hole neighbor did this deliberatly. The two younger kids are sad but they don't fully understand; the oldest understands not only the death but also the fact that someone did this to his furbaby friends. I'm so incredibly angry right now. Who in their right mind thinks that this is how things are done? What right did this a$$hole have to take my neice and nephew's pets away?!! Go eff yourself, stupid neighbor. (Yes, the police are involved. Media, too. I just needed to find someplace where a multitude of dog lovers are found. I can't believe anyone would do this.) 
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Tigerfan
Member
11-06-2003
| Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:54 pm
That's horrible Karen!! I hope the neighbors get what's coming to them!! Our Huskies are like our children, I couldn't imagine having to deal with such a loss. 
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Herckleperckle
Member
11-20-2003
| Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:59 pm
Oh, Karen. This is horrible, just horrible. I'd like to get a hold of those responsible--and be left alone with them. I'd make them drink the stuff. It makes me ashamed to be human. I feel so much for the children and your brother. This has just got to have an effect on them all. I just hope it helps turn this ugliness into something positive. And, whatever, I'm sure they will grow up with sympathetic hearts for all defenseless living things.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 2:00 pm
I hope someone poisons the neighbors.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 2:01 pm
That's completely horrible, Karen. I'm seething, too.
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:45 pm
That makes me physically sick. Someone like that would have no compunction to even hurt people. I hope your brother points out to the police that his children could just as easily have gotten a hold of that poison.
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 4:27 pm
Well, this was def the place to post that news Karen. It is such a sad sad world we live in when I read about the recent things here on site and things I see in my day to day life...It is simply beyond me. It makes me sad to think that there are such heartless people out there. Every day that I do my work I am faced with things that make me just shudder with dis belief.. so, am I shocked at what has happened to your pups, "No".... I am just angry as all hell... I hope that you can get some sort of help from the law and hopefully find out who did this... Im so sorry..
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 5:11 pm
Horrific. Simply horrific. And frightening. I hope the cops track down who was the 'annonymous' perp. And do something about it. Sick people out there. Sigh. I hope the media attention forces the perp to move. No wait. I want them arrested. Cuz they'll just be the same type of cretin wherever they go.
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Karen
Member
09-07-2004
| Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 5:32 pm
I want the jerkoff to come to my brother's house and explain to my 8 year old nephew why he doesn't have his puppy anymore. Then I'd like to tie him up and throw him in a cage with a couple of pitbulls and a couple of raw steaks... let the dogs figure out what's what. Then I want him to march down to the tattoo shop and have "PUPPY KILLER tattooed across his forehead. It's so difficult because the complaint to the city was anonymous, so the police don't have much to go on. Jeff says he's been looking at all his neighbors differently now, and it baffles him 'cause all his neighbors have kids, and their kids play with his kids... it just doesn't make sense. Thanks for the kind words. I was just aching with this news and I had to say something. I'm more a cat person than a dog person, but an animal is an animal, it has a life still, and Tiger, you're right -- for many of us, our furbabies are children. To have the mental capacity to be able to go through with an act like this completely baffles me. I just don't understand it at all. Thanks again to all of you -- I've copied your responses and will be emailing them over to Jeff to let him know people who don't even know him are angry on his behalf. I'm glad I came here and posted this -- I can't change anything, but I do feel better. I'll keep you posted on any charges that may come from this (doubtful, but you never know...)
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:07 pm
{{{{Jeff & Family}}}} Just disgusting.
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Karen
Member
09-07-2004
| Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:16 pm
OMG -- Sunvrose, I just went back and read some of this thread -- I just jumped right in here and hogged the thread with my story without looking at any posts. My comment about throwing this guy in a cage of pitbulls was completely inappropriate... I'm so sorry. I'm sorry for what you had to go through, but I'm happy that there is a silver lining in your cloud of grey.
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Max
Moderator
08-12-2000
| Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 7:05 pm
Oh, Karen, that IS a terrible story. Locally there have been a couple of stories in the news recently that got me going. In one, a man was walking his German shepherd and another dog peacefully down the street on leashes, just like they do every evening. They passed a man and the shepherd stopped and sniffed his knees, then they went on their way. The man went off! He went to his nearby house and grabbed a cane and then ran SIX BLOCKS to catch up with the dog and its owner where he proceeded to beat the dog! A police officer and several other people were nearby and managed to get control of the situation. The dog is okay, suffering a broken tooth and lots of bruises. When the case went to court, the man claimed it was self-defense, that the dog had tried to attack him. But it was clear from several witnesses that he had gone after the dog for no reason whatsoever. He's been charged with felony animal abuse and could face 5 years in prison and fines up to $125,000. When the charges were upgraded from misdemeanor to felony, he smirked in court, angering the judge. This guy is nuts! link In another sad story, one that really breaks my heart, the owners of a kennel went to the beach for the weekend. Before leaving on Friday around 2:00 (which was the hottest day of all here, topping out at 108 degrees in some places), they checked the kennels and the A/C units to make sure everything was okay for the racing greyhounds they breed. When a caretaker went to check on the dogs around 10:00 that night, he found that the A/C had stopped working and 35 dogs were dead. The owner was on the phone with him when he went to check on the dogs because she didn't want to go to bed without knowing they were okay due to the heat being so bad. Most of the dogs were retired racers, between 5 and 8 years old. 17 dogs survived. To compound matters for the owners, when they tried to return, they were stuck for a while because the main road was closed due to a forest fire. I cannot imagine being the one to walk in on this scene or the distraught owner trying to get home. link And finally, this was in the news today: Dog held at Clackamas County shelter dies in heat wave OREGON CITY — A West Linn couple say their 14-month-old golden retriever died after Clackamas County Dog Services left the dog outside during last weekend’s heat wave. Casey Clark said Cody escaped by pushing open a garden gate after being frightened by a fireworks display at Willamette Park, near the Clarks’ home, about 10 p.m. Saturday. Clark said he and his wife, Daisy Clark, contacted West Linn police, who told them the dog had been found and was at the county dog shelter in Oregon City, which would reopen Monday. The Clarks drove to the shelter about noon Sunday, hoping to get Cody out early. Casey Clark said they found Cody unconscious and lying in the sun in an outside kennel. “He was the only dog out there,” Clark said. “He looked terrible.” Clark said dog services released Cody, and the Clarks began to rush him to a veterinarian — only to have him go into convulsions and die en route. Dow Hokoana, dog services field supervisor, said she was investigating the incident but could not comment until she presented the report to her supervisor, probably early next week.
"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man." --Mark Twain
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Sunrvrose
Member
08-13-2001
| Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 9:42 pm
Holy Crap, July has been a bad month for dogs. My sympathy to your brother and his kids. He really needs to talk to all of the neighbors. It is unlikely, IMHO that this is the first time something like this would have happened in the neighborhood. I lived in my old neighborhood on the Central Coast for probably 4 years before I learned that the guy at the end of the street had been jailed for grabbing cats, putting them in cages in his totally concealed back yard, then shooting them. He was a definately sick person. He also would intentionally run over cats, if he could. I lost a cat, my Bobbers, who I had had for 5-6 years. We will never know what happened to him, but we found him in our front yard, dead, with little visable injuries. Karen, wait for the toxology reports. They should tell you what poison was found, then the police should be able to investigate where the poison came from. What part of the US are you in? If you have the kind of dedicated Animal Control people that we have here, they will document the case, look back to see if there were any similar cases, etc. Unlike in my case, where the damage was done by dogs, in your case, a human who does something like this can be put in jail for a long time, depending on where you are. And Im talking years, not months. I'm just saying, I believe that if it was an intentional poisoning, I'll bet there have been other cases. Sometimes, you just never know what happened. My little Otter went blind just a couple of months before she was killed. The Vet, upon examination of her eyes, said that about the only thing he knew of that could cause that kind of eye trauma would be something like a direct spray in the eyes with some kind of bug spray or other awful thing. But we knew that was not possible. She was in her Kennel, and we do not use any toxic substances, EVER. No bug sprays, no nothing. So we will never know how a perfectly healthy, confined and protected dog, became blind. Your brother should make sure that there was nothing in the environment that could have caused the deaths. Poisonous plants, sprays, etc. Did they do a full dog autopsy? Stomach contents could also reveal if any meat, etc, had been fed to the dogs to poison them. Just to reiterate, it's unlikely that a poisoning of this kind would be a one time thing. Look for a history. And as I'm sure we all know, don't leave your dogs outside at night. I have a neighbor across the street who is so damn irresponsible, she leaves her dogs, I think 4 of them, outside all day and all night. The first thing I hear every morning (usually about 6:00am,) is her dogs barking, and the last thing I hear every night is her dogs barking. On my days off, I want to go hit her. (and I've never hit anyone) I get to listen to barking dogs all freakin day long. It is almost like Chinese Water Torture. Always unpredictable, but you know it's coming, so you can never really relax.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 10:49 pm
{{{{{Karen, Jeff, Kids}}}}}}} I'm saddened and outraged about what happened to the pups! I sure hope they find out who did this and soon. Yes, they can serve years in jail - at least in the US. I see you're in BC. Hopefully, they have similar laws. Please keep us posted. Awwwwwww... poor Riley! You just never know how an animal is going to handle surgey/anesthesia/recovery. Do keep an eye on him, esp. if he continues to not eat or drink much and has little urine output. I thought Misha would be fine after her spay and she seemed to be so with the exception of acting like she had some tenderness. Then she stopped eating and started vomiting and had diarrhea. She was a little thing so when I took her into the vet, she had lost almost a pound which was HUGE and of course, she was dehydrated. She was fine after a round of fluids and the vet giving her some meds. I often wonder if it was the surgical glue not agreeing with her since she seemed fine the first couple of days. I know how you feel SS! Please keep us posted on that, too! Riley
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Retired
Member
07-11-2001
| Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 5:30 am
It sickens me to hear these horrible stories of abuse. (((Karen and everyone else)))
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Tigerfan
Member
11-06-2003
| Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 6:26 am
Karen, maybe suggest to your brother to have them look for antifreeze...The symptoms are very similar, unfortunately it is very difficult to trace/prove. It might show up in the stomach contents. Cindori and I discussed this last night and it sickens us. Someone who is capable of such a horrific act is one step away from killing a human. (Which sometimes, depending on the human, isn't near as bad as killing a dog/animal) 
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Secretsmile
Member
08-19-2002
| Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 6:39 am
Karen, that has got to be one of the most evil acts I've heard in a long time. I'm so sorry for you, your brother and most especially for his children. Sunrvrose, my thoughts are still with you. Riley is doing much better today, I'm embarrassed to say I didn't think of this earlier. I put sugar in his water, he immediately lapped it up. Then he had the energy to eat his food. I should have realized sooner that such a tiny fella needed a boost to his blood sugar. It's so good to see his eyes bright and clear again.

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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 8:14 am
Lots of puppy prayers needed please! This morning, my sis and bils three year old JRT, Ozzy, snuck out of the house behind bil. He didn't see her and as he was backing out of the yard ran her over. He's been at the ER Vet (same one who took care of Bud when he was attacked by the pitt) since about 4am this morning with her. She has two broken hind legs, a broken pelvic bone, and then sis was sobbing too hard to tell me what else. Short of it is is that the operation to set bones, install pins, and whatever else they have to do is going to cost so much money they don't think they can afford it. When they're older dog was a puppy she contracted parvo and almost died. They spent thousands getting her healthy again. They are not the type of people to put a dog down lightly but there may be no choice. Sis has been on the phone all morning trying to find someone who will do the surgery and all and do it on some type of a payment plan. Bil's in the process of seeing if the vet he's at now will do it. They are both devestated. Bil was so upset my mom had to go up to the vets office to sit with him and sis keeps running to her bedroom to cry because they don't want the girls yet to know whats going on til they know for sure what's going to happen. Please, send lots of prayers for Ozzy.
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Tigerfan
Member
11-06-2003
| Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 8:33 am
That is terribly sad, War. {{{{Ozzy}}}}
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 8:43 am
I'm so sorry War. It's indescribably awful when something like this happens. I'm just hoping for the best for them.
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 8:48 am
Oh War, so sorry to hear this. Would homeowner's or automobile insurance cover any of this? I have no idea but that is all that came to mind. Good luck Ozzy.
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Retired
Member
07-11-2001
| Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 8:55 am
(((Ozzy and family)))How sad. I hope she makes it and they can work out some payment plan.
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 8:57 am
Oh Wargod..that is a tragic thing to happen and they are both probably feeling so guilty on top of it all. Please reassure them that they cannot take the blame for this and we will all pray for Ozzy to pull thru.
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Bandit
Member
07-29-2001
| Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 9:40 am
OMG...all these stories are just incredibly heart-breaking. I might have to think twice before coming into this thread anymore...it's just too depressing. I hope all the doggies that have recently gone over the Rainbow Bridge find lots of hydrants, bones and chew toys!
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 9:45 am
Thanks guys! I'm waiting to hear from one of them now. *Few minutes after I started this post* I love you guys, you are awesome! I just got an update from sis and things are looking up somewhat. Sis got ahold of our family vet and explained what happened. He asked that they bring Ozzy over for him to check out before they make any decisions, they'd try to work something out. Apparently her legs are not broken (sis was pretty upset when she called me first thing this morning.) Her pelvic bone is broken, and her hips are dislocated? After x-rays and exam, our vet feels they can set everything, then put her in a cast. It's going to require at least two weeks of keeping her crated so she can't move around, carrying her out to potty and bringing her food and water and lots of love, but the vet is hopeful that she will be fine afterwards. The hardest part is going to be keeping her from trying to be her typical little hyper self. And yep, bil is feeling extremally guilty right now. Ever since Bud got attacked, they've been as careful with the pups as with the kids. They're not allowed in the yard alone, so when he gets up and is getting ready for work, he'll let the pups out while he loads up his work truck and stuff then brings them back in before he leaves. He has no idea how she snuck out of the house without him seeing her because he'd just made sure she was in the house. Sis will call after they fix Ozzy up to let me know how things went. Bil plans to stay at the vets til either they let Oz come home or kick him out. I told her if she wants to she can drop the girls off to go visit (if they plan on keeping Ozzy overnight or she'll be there all day or whatever.)
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