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Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Real sugar is deadly for me. I have no choice when I want a PBJ but to use sugar free preserves. And I drink flavored waters that have a bit of artificial sweetners. Like I said...for me sugar is deadly. I'm fighting diabetes tooth and nail to get it under control.

Dahli
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11-27-2000

Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dahli a private message Print Post    
Twinkie, getting rid of sugar is a healthy thing to do for you, for sure. I'm sure they've also told you how important it is to dramatically decrease the intake of grains, including all corn-based foods, white rice, potatoes in addition to all sweets?

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 6:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Everything white is gone from my diet as well as sweets. The only bread is whole wheat (NOT whole grain). When I have talked to my doctors about consuming sugar free products they don't even blink and I'm sure if there was a serious problem with it they would have jumped all over that. I have some really great doctors, I just have to stick to what they tell me to do.

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 8:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Why not whole grain whole wheat?

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 1:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
HP, it can be both but not JUST whole grain. Whole grain is just a fancy word for white bread with other stuff in it. I heard that from Dr. Oz on Oprah's show. LOL

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 2:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
No, whole grain is what you want on the label. It is not just a fancy word for white bread. Wheat bread, 10 grain, 7 grain, whatever, does not mean much unless it says whole grain.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
Fruitbat is correct.
"Wheat bread", "7 grain bread", etc, can have fiber or not. But the word "whole" indicates that the entire grain is used so it includes the naturally occuring B vitamins and fiber from the plant.
http://whole-grains.info/white-bread-vs-wheat-bread.htm
Who is Dr. Oz???
- your friendly TVCH Registered Dietitian

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 6:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
As I understand it, 100% whole grain is best. Some foods say they have "whole grain", but it is actually a small part of the total ingredients, and may have other refined grains in greater quantity.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 7:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Dr. Oz said Whole Grain is good, Multi Grain is not.

Dahli
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11-27-2000

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dahli a private message Print Post    
Yep, read the label... the first word should be 'whole' - not 'enriched'
That one slays me!!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Yep, that is actually what the doc said about a fancy word. He said "enriched" was the word that meant they processed all the good stuff out...

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Ahhh, that's right! I forgot it was enriched! Thanks for reminding me, folks! Well, I now eat nothing but whole wheat bread. I'm not really fond of the multi grain breads...too dense.

Dahli
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11-27-2000

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dahli a private message Print Post    
More People Wondering About Splenda's ''True'' Safety


In 2004, 180 million Americans bought sugar-free products, and in 2005, low-sugar packaged items were the second fastest growing segment in the "health food" industry, just behind organics. But more and more people are questioning the efficacy of artificial sweeteners.

Inhibits Dieting

Some researchers believe that artificial sweeteners may actually inhibit dieting efforts. In a 2004 study, when rats were fed artificially sweetened liquids, they lost their ability to moderate their intake of foods containing real sugar.

Just Too Sweet

Others speculate that artificial sweeteners have helped set the American diet at too high a level of sweetness. This has resulted in sugar or artificial sweeteners being put into nearly everything we eat, including peanut butter, soups, and other foods which are not traditionally sweet.


Time.com June 11, 2006



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Dr. Mercola's Comment:


This short but interesting piece describes the uneasy truce between consumers and artificial sweeteners, particularly Splenda. There's little evidence that artificial sweeteners do your health any good, and diet soft drinks can actually double your risk of obesity.

But that's just the tip of the iceberg. I am definitely not a fan of sugar, but if I had to choose between sugar and any artificial sweetener, sugar would win, hands down, without any question.

You probably know that I have been working on a book about Splenda and other artificial sweeteners for the last two years. It is called Sweet Deception, and it is now officially available for pre-sale on Amazon.com.

It has been absolutely amazing what we have been able to uncover. This book is aptly titled, as there are literally dozens of major deceptions that the manufacturers of artificial sweeteners, especially Splenda, are pulling on the public.

I wish I could share them all with you here, but my contract with the publisher prevents me from disclosing them until the book is published. However, there are a number of facts I can tell you.

Splenda's manufacturers have attempted to imply that Splenda is natural and safe by using the slogan, "made from sugar so it tastes like sugar." But by the end of the complex chemical processing Splenda goes through, it resembles nothing found in nature. This product is no way shape or form natural, nor is it a real sugar. It isn't even close.

What's more, the long-term safety of Splenda has never been established. In fact, there have only been six human trials to date, the longest of which lasted three months.

You will be shocked to learn that the absorption of Splenda into the human body was studied on a grand total of six men. That was the only human study performed that looked at this. From this the FDA allowed them to generalize this study to the entire human population.

The study was published in a journal that accepted a number of studies that were entirely funded by the manufacturer. The study was so poorly designed that it would not even merit a rejection letter from a major peer reviewed journal. Yet the company was able to convince the FDA that this tiny study could be extrapolated to the entire spectrum of humans on the planet.

That would include children, women, elderly and those with any chronic illness, none of whom were examined. This study was a joke.

The reason why this is so important is that is central to the long-term safety of Splenda. Right now there are absolutely no long-term safety studies for this substance in humans, only a two year study in rats.

What's more, the molecular structure of Splenda bears remarkable resemblance to pesticides, and this week I uncovered some facts about its discovery that will likely be front page news in the national media when we announce it.

I have much more startling information to reveal to you, but it will have to wait till the fall. I suspect this will be another NY Times best seller, and there is a good possibility the book will run out of its first printing, so if you want to be among the first to know the truth, be sure and place your pre-order today.

You might want to take a look at the pages of testimonials from our own readers who feel they have been harmed by Splenda. If you have noticed any side effects yourself, there is a form you can fill out so that you can add your story to the hundreds of others that have been submitted.

This will help us enormously in our investigation, because in our two years of study we could find NO ONE, not the manufacturer nor the FDA, that is doing ANY long-term safety studies on this substance. With the data we are compiling, we hope to reopen the case on the most popular artificial sweetener in America.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I'm suspect of anyone who's pushing their new book. I still say I'll take sweet and low or slenda since sugar is my enemy as a diabetic.

Twinkie
Member

09-24-2002

Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 3:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Well, I guess I was right the first time. I saw the nutritionist yesterday and she said that whole grain is NOT good because it still contains some white flour. Whole wheat does not. So I'm glad I stuck with the whole wheat bread.