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Regee
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10-09-2005

Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 5:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Regee a private message Print Post    
Sending out hugs and love to you Sun, it will in time get better I am sure, just right now it doesn't seem to.

Wishing I was there to help you threw this.

Reg'ee

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
I am glad you are able to verbalize your pain here. We are hurting with you and understand. You are so strong and able to bring two more needy furbabies in your heart. I am amazed. When Sophie died I could hardly make it out of bed and some days didn't.

We had a feeling that jerk would move his dogs. Such craven cowards, not able to face up to the harm they have done.

Chewpito
Member

01-04-2004

Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
Oh Sun, Im so sorry you are having a bad day, Ive been waiting to hear what was going on...my heart just aches for you.. as I mentioned earlyer we have a Pit right next door to my house that has also attacked a little dog and I have just been a nervous wreck about it.. Ive called AC so many times and because we have a private street they think im nurotic and blow me off.. Ive just been so angry... then after hearing every thing you have gone thru has just made me feel sick inside...I look at my little pups and just know how vulnerable they would be if I could not protect them. Last night I was returning home from walking my dogs and there were 3 cop cars right in front of my house and neibors, I asked what happened and I guess the pit had broke thru the fence again and attacked my niebors dog, hes allright- she went out there screaming and beat the dog off with a broom and the owners got him back...The police said they will make a report, but so far it seems nothing has happened. Why oh why does some one have to die to get results.... I am really following your tragedy because Im hoping that somthing can be done.... allthough nothing can fix the pain in your heart for loosing your loved pets..thats just what makes me so mad.. money,exterminating the other dogs, or even punishing the owners dosent bring back your babys... but somthing must be done... I pray for you..

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunrvrose a private message Print Post    
When Otter went blind, I was very stupid. I thought about having her put down. Lasted about 5 minutes. Then I did a web search about blind dogs and I found this poem. If you have already soaked your tissues or hankies, you better get new ones, cause, this one will take a whole box.

I cannot see you Mommy, when you cuddle me so near.
And yet I know you love me, it's in the words I hear.
I cannot see you Daddy, when you hold me by your side
But still I know you love me when you tell me so with pride.
I cannot see to run and play out in the sun so bright
For here inside my tiny head it's always dark as night.
I cannot see the treats you give when I am extra good
But I can wag my tail in Thanks just like a good dog should.
"She cannot see. The dogs no good" is what some folks might say
"She can't be trained, she'll never learn She must be put away."
But not you, Mom and Daddy You know that it's alright
Because I love you just as much as any dog with sight.
You took me in, you gave me love and we will never part
Because I'm blind with just my eyes, I see you in my heart.

Sherrill Wardrip (Blind Dogs List member
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Max
Moderator

08-12-2000

Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
{{SUN}} Thanks for giving us an update. I so wish I was close enough to come over and give you a big hug for as long as you needed it. It's probably going to be an emotional rollercoaster for you for quite a while. But from the ashes, a beautiful phoenix CAN arise :-)

It sounds as though the law truly will take care of things once they can locate the culprits. I hope the law finds them before those dogs attack and kill something else like, God forbid, a child.

Hang in there. And if you do decide to call an attorney about a potential civil suit against the owners, let us know how it goes.



Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 7:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunrvrose a private message Print Post    
Otter was confused by her blindness for a few days at most. We put boards up around the steps, so she couldn't accidentally go off the edge. When she first went blind, she was very sick, so I wasn't going to let her stay in the kennel and I brought her to stay in my house. Well, of course, she didn't know what was where, so she peed over and over in the house, mostly in front of the door. So that is why we erected what my grandson referred to as the "low rent" barracades. I had a very weak wire fence around my lower yard, but it had fallen in several places, and gaps where gates had once been, so that is why we did what we could for emergency containment. Otter got out twice before we got all the holes plugged, and she got lost and couldn't find her way home. We easilly found her both times, and brought her back home, but it was so scary.

After she got well, still blind, but healthy, we did the extra stuff around the dog kennel, as I said, to be sure she couldn't fall down the steps.

On the blind dog sites, I read a lot about how the dogs get depressed and change. Otter didn't do either. We would lead her up the stairs, saying, "step" "step" etc, as was recommended on the blind dog sites, we would say, "otter, around." and she would go around. (like a planter or any obsticle) She got it so fast. She was never depressed. She was the happiest dog you can ever imagine. I was there the day she was born, I was there the day her father was born. She was the end of the line from an Aussie I found in the back of Pick-Up behind a bar in Costa Mesa, in about 1980.

It was pouring down rain and I saw this dog in the back of the truck, soaked and oh boy talk about stinky. I walked into the bar and asked who had a dog in the back of their truck. This huge guy, who was German, said it was his dog. I said she shouldn't be out there in the rain. He said that somebody left the dog with him and never came back. He had had the dog living in his garage for a few months. I asked him if he wanted the dog, and he said no. I asked what her name was, and he said, "Auxil." AND, the dog understands no English, only German.

I told him I wanted to take the dog home with me. He said fine. So, I load the soaked, stinky dog, out of the truck and put her in my car...yep, car, fabric seat covers, the whole thing. Take her to my house, and dump her straight into the bath tub. I scrub with flea soap, I scrub with deoderant shampoo, I scrub with lemon juice...and WOW does she still stink. I finally give up, and get her out and dry her off. And go to bed. It's late by now. I wake up in the morning, and Auxil had apparently gotten on my bed during the night and peed and pooped...ON THE BED. Plus had the big D, all over the house. I was pretty frustrated, and I yelled at her and she got so timid, I felt ashamed. That was the one and only time she ever messed in the house. She got it immediately. The German guy taught me a couple of key German phrases/commands. And I had her for another 8 years.

We moved to the Central Coast, Grover Beach, and that's when I found out that she had not been spayed, despite being told she was. There was a half wolf, half malumute down the driveway from us, and lo and behold, She was preggers. The wolf mix was named Tyson. A couple of months later, Auxil gave birth to "Buster Douglas". I actually had to remove his birth sac and rub him to get him to breathe. We chose to not get Buster fixed, don't know why for sure, just didn't Fade to 1998, I'd moved to Oregon for a year and a half, my daughter and son in law lived in my house and took care of Buster. I came back from Oregon with another Aussi mix named Katie. Got her from a PAWS type organization, stated she was spayed. WRONG. A few months later, Katie is really obviously preggers. She goes under the shed in our back yard and has the puppies. They were the cutest ever. Otter was the runt.

Buster Died at age 14, in our yard. And is burried with a monument. So Otter was the last of the Auxil line. That whole line of dogs were so special that we often regretted having Otter spayed as a baby. We would have liked to keep the line going forever. Now it has ended.

Gosh, I guess I should have just written a book, there is so much to tell about these dogs for the last 25 years.

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
You keep writing your books here Sun. I'm soaking in every word.

I'm fully convinced you really did see Cedar racing you to the house this evening Sun. Its his gift to you, letting you know he's still with you, even if his only touch can be via the spirit world. Boomer gave me an incredible gift the night after he died. I was missing his solid body to snuggle with in bed. I clearly remember feeling a solid wonderful body snuggling with me one more time that night. I know it wasn't his brother (Bomba), cause I also felt Bomba in his normal spot on the other side of my body in bed that night. It was the last "double snuggle" I was to receive. But I'll cherish it forever. Boomer still comes to see me once in a while, mostly through my computer wallpaper/screensaver. Every time I see his beautiful smiling face greeting me on the monitor, I can't help but just smile, tell him hi, and tell him how much I love him and miss him. Strangely enough, rather than feel sadness and loss when I see his picture pop up, I always get a warm feeling of love in my heart, and am left with a nice little warm fuzzy feeling.

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 10:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calamity a private message Print Post    
Sunrvrose: I've just read what happened to your animal friends and am in shock and tears. It is beyond me to imagine the pain you must be feeling. I cannot tell you how sorry I am....or how angry I am at those people responsible for this terrible tragedy.

I pray you will find peace and justice.

Cedar, Otter, BJ

Please forgive me if I left out any of their names.

Christiii
Member

07-07-2005

Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Christiii a private message Print Post    
okay Sun..this maaaay help you...its a site I visited a lot after i lost Gabriel to bone cancer....
http://www.rainbowbridge.com/
its really a depressing site if you havent lost a pet recently, but if you have, it may offer some comfort...I spent a lot of time on there...just sobbing...they have a candle vigil/ceramony for all your pets that are sick or that have passed... you can add your pets name and thoughts, any thing you want to say.....it might be a bit healing for you...I really dont know if it helped me...but I DID sit there and cry a lot.....and just thought about my baby Gabe....okay..Im gonna cry now darn it!! heres a pic of my Gabriel, who got bone cancer and dies 2 days before his 5th birthday...he was the SWEETEST soul on earth...and didnt deserve to go that way...especially since i had to take him and put him down....dont know how i survived it, other than about three xanax to just totally numb me....
Gabe is in the right....I SERIOUSLY do not mean to bring this board down...sheesh!! I need to go read the gossip page or something fun like that!!
butterfly

Saxywildcat
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05-30-2005

Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 9:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saxywildcat a private message Print Post    
Hopefully this photo will make you all smile.




Eris
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11-13-2003

Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 9:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eris a private message Print Post    
oh thats a great photo saxy! yay!

I am so hurt....heartbroken right now.

The new place I am moving too will not allow pets of any kind. Buddy can't come with us to Georgia cry

my dad has offered to take him, but I am soooo worried for him. He is so used to being babied...I just love him to death. He is like a second child.
bud1


Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Saxy, great picture! (I LOVE your hair, btw! Looks great!)

Eris, doggone it; choose another place! You can't let Buddy go. Gonna break my heart for that little guy.

Chewpito
Member

01-04-2004

Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 9:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
could you find another place? I could never leave my dogs,id probably live in a shack first..they are my kids.. Does your dad like your pup. maybe they will bond and be great buds...hope it works out cause he sure is a cute guy, I wish I could take him. saxy, thats a great picture..

Saxywildcat
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05-30-2005

Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 9:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saxywildcat a private message Print Post    
OMG, Eris!! That makes me want to cry!! Are you sure you can't find another place?? that is just heartbreaking. He is such a cute little guy!!!

And Thanks guys.

Cdbga
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10-04-2004

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 2:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cdbga a private message Print Post    
Where in GA are you moving, Eris? Just asking because I'm a GA girl myself.

Slinkydog
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11-30-2005

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 4:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Slinkydog a private message Print Post    
Made me smile, and laugh, Saxy!

Eris, there was a time that I considered giving away by beloved Alex because of my housing situation. Luckily, a good friend was able to foresee how much I would come to regret doing that, and offered to keep her for me until I was able to get situated elsewhere. I am so thankful for that. I moved within a month and got Alex back. She gave me so much joy and I spoiled her rotten for another 14 years, until her death last year. Just the thought of not having spent those years with her makes me tear up.

I recommend that you find another place to live. If there is no time, just let your dad keep Buddy until you can find another place, and make that your priority. Good luck!

Sisalou
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07-12-2002

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sisalou a private message Print Post    
Hugs to everybody here. I have been following Sunrv's story. I'm anxious to learn that those people have been punished and the dogs removed. I really don't think there is anything that can be done to save those dogs. Sounds like they will keep on killing so I think they should be put down.

I had a pit bull about 15 years ago and he was really sweet but I watched him like a hawk whenever he was around people or other animals. You have to be hyper vigilant when you have a dog like that because you never know.

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
When I got myself together to take our 13-year-old Hercky to the vet for his appt today (3 regular shots), I didn't expect to walk away from the visit feeling so down.

Oh, Herc took his shots well, and he is healthy and fit with no real problems--except the effects of aging. The vet told me Hercky's eyes are worsening---from the nuclear sclerosis we know he has (we were told a couple of visits ago).

Nuclear sclerois is not cataracts and doesn't lead to blindness. But like cataracts, the condition causes a haze to develop over the eyes that makes vision fuzzier. And it is the reason why Herc is more and more reluctant to take walks at night. The condition cannot be corrected, unfortunately.

That wasn't dramatic news. I was sad but not too surprised to hear that it was worsening. Normal in senior dogs, the vet said. So that's when a lightbulb went off and I asked the vet how many years he thought we would still have Herc. The vet said a year. Or maybe 2. I could have fallen over!

I mean, I know he is getting up there, but I just haven't faced it--and don't want to, either. Herc still acts like a puppy outside, full of life and eager and interested and strong, but he has slowed down when inside, content to sleep a lot (just as I seem to be).

When Ed came home tonight, I told him, and I swear we sat together for over an hour petting him together and talking about not wanting to contemplate this. Not ready at all.

I just do not want the inevitable to happen. I don't want to find him one morning in a sleeping position to find out he's actually gone.

Just have to shake this off tonight and focus on the time we have now and make the most of it. And I guess the vet just could be wrong about how long Hercky has, too. I suppose. Sure hope he is. But more importantly, I want to make sure Hercky enjoys every single day he has left with us.

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 8:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
I know how you feel Herc, I hate to say it but somtimes I look at my own pups and I see a ticking clock and It makes my heart ache. It just seems they should live as long as we do..I lost my first dog after just short of 15yrs and I felt like I had lost my best friend. Its funny but a dog shares many memorys that even a human dosent know about.. and they are truly the most forgiving friends we will ever have.. Just cherish every moment and know how lucky that he was blessed with you and Ed. I look at my own dogs and Chewy in peticular and know that any body else might not have been as loving as I am. She isnt the easyest of dogs to love, she has her quirks, but Id jump in front of a bus for her...isnt it funny how we love our pets.... actually not funny, its wonderfull... Herc was blessed to have you, enjoy every day.. I just love animal lovers..

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 9:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Chewy. I would lay down my life for Hercky, too, just as I know he would for me. (In my mind, Ed has already done that for Herc and I am positive Herc knows that.)

12herc in ct

I intend to dream sweet dreams about him tonight.


hp


Calamity
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10-18-2001

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 10:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calamity a private message Print Post    
Oh Chewpito, that really was lovely. I know exactly what you mean.

And Herckleperckle, please don't let that prediction get you down. He's a vet not a psychic so try not to feel like you have a black cloud over you. Very few of us know how much time we or our loved ones have anyway, so we just have to cherish every moment we have with them. I hope you and Herk are together on Earth for many more years and after that you'll have each other forever. It's just so hard when doctors/vets stun us with blunt statements like that though...

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 10:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Calamity, thank you! That really helped me tonight to think about us having each other forever. I know my dreams will be better now.

And ITA about Chewy's comments. It's clear she right there with me--and you--and all of us who really, really love our pets--about the unbelievable love bond that grows between us and our furry family members.

Chewpito
Member

01-04-2004

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 10:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
Oh yes,Im right there with you allright..and Herc, I only want to change one thing in my post..I wish I would have wrote "IS" and not "was", that was my mistake.. but I know you knew what I was thinking...

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 11:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunrvrose a private message Print Post    
Hercle, My Bj also would have only lived a year or two. He was so much in pain from his typical hip problems in large breed dogs. I was dreading the day that I would have to take him to his last vet appointment.

I wrote a really long post, but since Im not used to this lap top, it got lost.

The gist of it was, I am dogless again. The puppy was getting sick so I took him back to the dog lady. Then, while I was gone Charlie found a way to escape thru the cat window.

Geri, the dog lady, came over here and called and called him, and he emerged from the bushes and went to her. Id called a lot, and he just stayed hidden. Thank God he was ok, but she really needed to take him back to her home. So, with both of us crying, she took Charlie away.

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Friday, July 14, 2006 - 11:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunrvrose a private message Print Post    
And my damn cats, who got so pissed that there were unfamiliar dogs here, havent been in the house for a week.

When Cedar was here, every night, Cedar, and my cats, Gracie and Pyro, slept on my bed every night. I am sleeping on the couch tonight. After I seriously hurt this bottle of Merlot Im working on.