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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 9:48 am
Well E, there's nothing for or against that I can find on the WR site, the forums are down and there is no 'contact us' So, the thing is that while on the cleanse you may want to stick as close to it as possible...and after you're done, consider adding it to your regime? I know that Herkie found out about it a while back from her DD, uses it and swears by it,, so it might be just the ticket to get you off the sugar train to illville ;)
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 10:13 am
Are you talking about the lemonade and cayenne pepper cleanse? I have heard very mixed things about that. I love Stevia!!!!
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 10:18 am
Are you allowed to have coffee???????
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 10:41 am
The Master Cleanse does use lemons, cayenne and maple syrup and is incredible. Not just anyone can or should do it though, it takes a great deal of commitment and understanding. Yay Stevia! Hermi - coffee is allowed on this one Eeyore is doing if you must, 2 cups max... but absolutely not on the MC. HTH!
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 10:49 am
Urgrace why did you say you would leave out the mangos?? Is this just for folks doing a cleanse you mean? Mangos are awesome they do have a lot of value and merit don't they as far as vitamins and minerals go? and the fruit has great fibre... The juice however would still offer the benefits of those soothing enzymes that help with digestion... I'm very curious though about the theory that says we should consume primarily foods indigenous to the area in which we live.. so few of us would actually get to enjoy much tropical stuff on a daily basis and I'd be eating more bison LOL! So I'm not entirely sold.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 11:52 am
I think that the eat foods close to you theory is one that has just become connected with the organic lifestyle. It's about supporting your community, and promoting fair trade instead of cash cropping. Also, the farther food has to travel, the more problems it could have. As well, diseases and things in ONE country may come over. Another thing is that fruits that may be helpful in one ecosystem, may not be so helpful in another. I can't think of a food example of the top of my head, but look at the gene for sickle cell anemia. It's also a gene that makes you immune to malaria. I dunno. I think the global communitization (I know, not a word) has led to more problems than benefits.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 11:54 am
I really want to do one. I think I will start the Monday after Labor Day. Anyone want to join me? Keep us posted, Eeyore! Is it expensive?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 12:11 pm
I do!!! But I have to be specifically told what to do!
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 12:11 pm
I agree completely with everything you say about the reasons for it, all very valid, but there is another theory that talks about it actually benefitting us on a more cellular level affecting our very being... I'll see if I can locate it. How are you feeling? Did you get any rest?
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 1:47 pm
Here is a little more about the one I did. They are in pdf. format so I hope ya'll can read them. I have been wanting to do one, but haven't figure out how to do it with my bizarre hours. a brief overview http://www.standardprocess.com/lit/brochures/naturaldetoxificationL1105.pdf this one has the food guide http://www.standardprocess.com/lit/brochures/purificationguideL2605.pdf the vitamins and supplements you take http://www.standardprocess.com/lit/healthissueinfocards/PurificationL1023.pdf & http://www.standardprocess.com/lit/tabsheets/spcleanse2670.pdf
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 2:48 pm
Hermi and Julieboo - seriously, it's really quite easy. The kit I did was about 35 dollars Canadian. I've seen it for about 27 online in USD. The kit comes with 3 bottles of EXACTLY 48 pills each, and some herb drops. 2 of each pill with breakfast, and dinner. There are no REAL instructions, only that you MUST eat only the stuff on the food list. Click the link I gave upthread, and check out hte food list, it's actually quite simple. And you poop a lot. hahahahaha!! Your starch of the meal would be brown rice. I have found organic, gluten-free brown JASMINE rice, so there is still GREAT flavour. Then, you are given a HUGE list of veggies to work with. The list says make these things 80% of your diet. Meats are in the 20% column, so a big steak with only a cup of white rice and 3 green beans ain't gonna cut it. LOL Seriously, there is ALSO a cookbook that you can buy, for recipes that follow the Wild Rose rules. I had done a search for recipes, and this woman posted a ton in her forum, from the cookbook: http://www.clubvibes.com/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=407168 The main thing is you are cutting out: alcohol sugar - no sweets!! glutens - meaning flour of any kind, breads, pasta, etc. dairy of all sorts - they also say limit your intake of rice and soy milk chemical preserved canned food (if possible) tropical fruit - mangos, pinapples, BANANAS, melons of any kind, papaya, etc. caffeine - they SAY to try to give up coffee, or you are ony allowed 2 black cups per day (I knew I was going on my cleanse, so I gave up my daily Starbucks about a week ago). So far, the biggest gripe I have to say about this cleanse is that I am spending a LOT of time preparing food. BUT, keep in mind that I'm a waitress by night, and a students and computer tech by day. So I really am not used to cooking AT ALL. I munch for free at the restaurant, I but food up at school, or I have a lot of ready made snack food here. Rarely do I cook. But now, I've got all these fresh veggies and brown rice to cook, and I'm just not used to it. If you don't mind cooking, I really don't think you'll notice. Today, I went out and ran a few errands. I was completely fine, although I went out and bought a bunch of jugs of water, so carrying them home (I don't have a car) was a bit tiring, but I think that's just because they were heavy. While going out, it is TORTURE for me, because I walked by Starbucks, and Taco del Mar, and I was in the line up at the drug store looking at chocolate bars. THAT was hard. Today is more mental. I am on day 3, and I am already a bit sick of brown rice. And then I started thinking about how I'm only a quarter of the way done!! And I came home just now from the drug store, and I feel like snaking, but don't feel like eating an apple. I didn't pick up any berries at Safeway, so I can't munch on those for a change. But I will be OK. I think I'm going to relax for a bit, and then make some Greek style chicken breasts. I'll keep you all posted, and again, feel free to ask me anything!! :-)
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 7:41 pm
Texannie, that seems really good! What a terrific looking product line, I'm very interested in finding out if that is available in Canada. I currently have my Dad on a cleanse for a number of reasons mostly to increase his rate of peristalsis and he's doing ok, it's a little less involved than this, but I think my DH might be willing to try this one, or the one Eeyore is on. Me too, since I like to do one with each change of seasons and after Christmas! ;) How did you like this? Did it make a difference for you? What were your goals or reason for doing it and did it work? How was the experience and would you recommend it? Thanks!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 8:50 pm
Dahli - I'm finding my appetite is really going away and I'm only on day 3. Do you know why that is happening? I made a roast, and some green beans and brown rice. I fixed a plate that would be my NORMAL portion on any other day of the year, but I can barely eat a third of it. Any particular reason? PS - my energy is still great
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 5:45 am
Dahli, I started going to a doctor..chiropractor by degree, but she has slowly moved more towards the nutrition/naturopathy area. She is very into NET and NMET. I was having several issues, one of which was unexplained weight gain, so she suggested that I try the cleanse. I only lost a few lbs, but I felt wonderful. I had people comment on how glowing I was. Right now, money is VERY tight, but when things straighten out, I want to do it again. I would most definitely recommend it. I was referred to her by a dear friend of mine. She went on a candida diet with great success. She tried the cleanse, but didn't really like it, but she is very active, in very good health already so it didn't seem to do as much for her. Standard Process is a wonderful brand!!!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 9:40 am
That's interesting Tex. Another friend of mine at work woke up with her back thrown out. She supports her husband and son on her wages, so she HAD to come in. But she could barely move, and it got worse through the day. Finally, she made an appointment with a chiropractor that was close to our work, and could see her right away. Turned out is was this Chinese woman, and she said to my friend "Stick out your tongue" and then basically listed off a bunch of health issues my friend had. My friend was impressed. Essentially, this woman said that she thought the girl had candida, and food allergies that were making her back sore. The girl immediately went on this huge candida cleanse, and cut out a TON of things, and then slowly would introduce certain foods to see the reaction. Turns out she has a gluten intolerance, and I think they found leaky gut, whatever that is. After doing all these cleanses, my friend was so interested, she joined homepathy/naturopathy college, but had to drop out because she was not making enough money anymore to support the family. But interesting that my friend got into naturopathy in the same way you did Tex. I looked at the diet for that Standard Process. I think I'd DIE. There aren't any veggies on there that I'd like, and NO SALAD DRESSING? Not even lemon juice? Ack!! That would be torture to me!! LOL
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 9:59 am
I was able to use a little olive oil, balsamic vinegar and lemon juice. wonder if my doc modified it somewhat. there are hardly any limitations on veggies if i remember right. might have to look again. i did notice on the list it said no avocados but my doc said that was ok. my favorite lunch was cucumbers, tomatoes and avocadoes with fresh pico de gallo.
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 11:13 am
Eeyore - Interesting about the appetite... I have found that to be the case as well, when I've done detox cleanses. I truly don't know exactly why, but it seems that the body in its infinite wisdom is gleaning the nutrition it needs from the high quality calories and using energy efficiently for the actual elimination and detox. Most of the time it's busy trying to figure out what the he-- to do with all the crap those famous 2 square inches throws at it and clamoring for actual nourishment. Most overweight folks I know are frighteningly under-nourished. Storing all the junk it doesn't know what to do with and struggling to eliminate the rest is tiring and searching for actual nutrition is what makes us hungry - you know we eat more here than we need to, so maybe that could be some of it? You're still so young that you could probably expect to get feedback quicker. Glad to know your energy is good, that does indicate your body knows what to do with what you're giving it...and lack of energy can also be directly tied to dehydration. Leaky gut is what I'm trying to work on with my dad, and is when the body re-aborbs toxins from the build up in the colon caused by infrequent or ineffective elimination due to waste build up from the torrent of 'stuff' we ingest...this over time can 'leak' and travel causing many of the 'symptoms'that have been declared diseases. Tex, thanks for the detail, Is that product line a fairly expensive one? I'm still not able to locate it here anywhere. It sounds like you have a great resource in that Dr you found I'm quite thrilled to see how these things speak for themselves and have such great word of mouth, it's truly the best advertising there is. That healthy glow that Eeyore saw says it all really, can't fake healthy!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 11:23 am
I think in the grand scheme of things, it's not overly expensive, but compared to drug store brand, maybe a little.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 11:28 am
Can you order off of Amazon? I found it there http://www.amazon.com/s.html/104-7729747-1570314?ie=UTF8&node=3760931&field-keywords=standard%20process
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 12:07 pm
THANKS!!!!
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 12:55 pm
I ordered the Wild Rose product Eeyore! That was easy to get here in Canada and looks like something Randy would stick to ;) Can't wait to try this. Hope it's here by Labour Day. Then I'll concentrate on finding the SP one from the US,that Tex used - which should be interesting. I don't know if he'd go for it, I may be alone on that one LOL!
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 2:07 pm
Dahli, the first post on this thread was by Eeyore telling that the cleanse was without tropical fruit. I add mangos to the fruit smoothies, so when a customer requests the smoothie for a detox I can eliminate the mango for them to make it a good detox. I am wondering if Stevia can be added to whipping cream (since the site mentioned it works well with dairy) how would it work? I know it says that it won't give body like sugar.
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 2:09 pm
Oh and don't forget if you are having any thyroid problems and taking meds for it that you cannot take soy.
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 4:04 pm
Thanks Gracie... I wasn't clear if you were referring to just detoxers or not. I use Stevia only in everything, I have not tried it in whipping cream since I don't have occasion to eat it, but I don't see why not. I have used it in almost everything else. The liquid is all I use and there is a bit of a learning curve. Glad to see your soy mention, I'm in total agreement - but then I avoid it completely (unless fermented)
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 4:23 pm
What are the rules for using a cleanse if your currently taking meds?? Does anyone know?? I find this discussion very interesting and am considering a 7 day cleanse I found at GNC. But I take meds ... curious if I should be concerned.
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