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Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 7:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
My dh's aunt was a smoker and she died from lung cancer. She was one of the most loving mothers and wives I have ever met. (And I am honestly not just saying that cuz she died.) Anyways, I think it is the biggest slap in her kids' or her husband's face if someone asks them that question. Like well sorry, but she deserved to die cuz she smoked. I think people do take a little relief in hearing that the person died because they were smokers.

BTW GInger, I hope you don't think I am directing this at you. You, by far, are not the only one to note or show shock int he fact that Dana was not a smoker.

Vee
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02-23-2004

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 7:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vee a private message Print Post    
This is such sad news. And yes, it comes as an awful shock to have someone die this death through no choice of her own. That's how we have come to think of lung cancer...that it is a choice when, obviously, it is not.

Sharing two quotes, one from Dana and the other from Christopher...

"You can either wallow in that and say oh, life has changed and it's awful or you can create a new life and grow from it and learn from it." ~ Dana Reeve

"It's not the doing of things, it's the being that counts." ~ Christopher Reeve

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Eris
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11-13-2003

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 7:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eris a private message Print Post    
Im just so torn up when a child loses their parent...let alone both of them. This news today just stung. She seemed like a lovely person inside and out

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 7:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Jb who are you talking to and what are you talking about?

This is very sad, I feel so bad for their children.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 7:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
This just truly breaks my heart. It's a very sad loss.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 7:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
I have no doubt Dana Reeve fought with everything she had and did not want to leave her children, but just imagine what it was like for her to see her husband healthy and walking again!

Coco
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 7:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Coco a private message Print Post    


...for Kirby and for Dana...

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 8:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
As a stepmom who loves her children-by-marriage as her own, let's not forget that while Kirby has lost both of his biological parents within 17 months, Matthew and Alexandra have also lost two parents.

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 8:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
did you mean Will, their son? (not Kirby - i think Coco was just paying respects to the two people who died yesterday)

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Legal, yes I did. Thanks for catching that. That's what happens when you're sneaking into TVCH while you are really supposed to be working.

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
lol you are not alone native :-)

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
I'm not a follower of sports. But I've heard many comments on TV that Kirby was just a dollbaby of an individual. Very sorry to hear about his death.

I had the TV off today to give my head a rest. So I didn't know about Dana Reeves til I spotted the name Dana in thread under New Messages. I immediately popped in here to make sure it wasn't her. So very sad. I hope their son is in good hands, though I am sure Dana made arrangements and helped her son throughout her illness. I can't imagine what psychological impact this will have on the Reeves' son. I feel so sad for him, losing both prematurely and due to illness.

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 9:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
Dana's mother died too shortly after Christopher died, and Will was close to her too - Dana talked in November about how unfair it was for someone that young to lose his father and grandmother and then to have to deal with his mother getting sick (and now passing away) - a very strong kid but still not fair at all

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
I didn't know that, Legal. What a shame. This kid is going to believe there is a dark cloud waiting to pounce on him.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I might be weird, but I see this sort of silver lining, in that I just get the feeling her and Christopher are finally together again. Am I weird? Sure, it's always sad on our side to lose someone, especially for the son, but she was SO close to her husband, that I think there is something to smile about, knowing she is with her love again.

Yeah I might be creepy.

On a different note, I think there IS something to be said for someone dying of lung cancer who WASN'T a smoker. It isn't saying that smokers deserve to die, and non-smokers DON'T. I think it is a strong statement of the IMPACT that smokers have on others. This especially bugs me when parents smoke around their children.

Of all the "drugs" out there, nicotine is BY FAR the most dangerous, and impacts the MOST people. Yet we sit an tolerate it, while whining about WAY LESS harmful drugs like pot, cocaine, and heroine.

Sorry to go off topic - but I am a strong anti-smoker, and I don't think the message is "smokers deserve less" when someone asks if a lung cancer victim is a smoker. You take the wrong message out of it.

PS - My own mother has been a smoker for like 40 years. I am THIS CLOSE to getting her to quit. FINALLY.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
i know of several people who have passed away from lung cancer who never smoked themselves. sometimes it was from secondhand smoke, but not always. i worked for a dentist who refused to speak to his father because the father was a smoker and the mother died of lung cancer.
anyway, i think often it is exposure to smoke, your own or as second-hand that causes lung cancer but not all.
dana was a cabaret-type singer. perhaps at the time she sang in clubs there was still smoking allowed? or it could have had nothing to do with exposure to smoke.

i was so upset when my home page came up on the computer this morning. it's set to a news page and the first thing i saw was that she had passed away. i didn't have my glasses on and at first i saw 'lana reeve' and thought that sounds familiar...put on my glasses and said, "oh no!"
part of me thought of christopher and dana being together again so soon, and the other part just hurt for everyone who still needed her in this life. she was so young.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I think people ask about smoking in a lung cancer death, because of our OWN fears about our mortality.

We like to believe we have control over our own bodies and serious illness. When we hear that someone who died of a lung cancer was a smoker, we are relieved. Not because we think they deserved it, but because we don't want to believe that we might end up the same if we are non-smokers.

Either way, it is incredibly sad for that young man, so much tragedy, such a short time. It's difficult for an adult to handle, let alone a teen who is going through his own difficult years of growing up.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 9:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Good points, Kar.

Spitfire
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07-18-2002

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spitfire a private message Print Post    
Kar great post. Those were my thoughts exactly but I could not figure out a way to explain them.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Eeyore, you're not weird about the silver lining. I said basically the same thing earlier.

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buggles a private message Print Post    
In Eastern thinking, lung diseases arise when a person is carrying a lot of grief

So, so sad

Chaplin
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01-08-2006

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 1:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chaplin a private message Print Post    
I was devasted to hear of Dana Reeves passing today!!!!!!!!! I saw her interviewed a few times and always found her to be smart, profound and extremely down to earth. She will be missed. I feel the saddest also for the children. I know what it is like to lose both parents in only a few months of each other. I lost mine within 11 months of each other however, I was an adult not a child when they died. That will be extremely tough!!!!!!!!!

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
yep, dana reeve was a gracious, patient, loving, giving and exceptional woman, who truly exemplified the 'for better or worse' and 'in sickness and in health' vows. it's just so tragic for her to have some time where she wasn't a fulltime caregiver, to accept her husband's death and start to go on in a life without him...and find out she really had no time left at all. i'll bet she was as brave through this struggle as she was with her others.
i was devastated too when i read of her death. what a phenomenal person she was. i truly admired her.

Graceunderfyre
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01-21-2004

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Graceunderfyre a private message Print Post    
how sad. . .btw, my Godmother died very quickly from lung cancer and she would freak out if she was near smoke - she'd beat 3 other forms of it in her life - she was going back for a follow up on a cancer that had been removed from her uterus a month prior when they found the lung cancer and she died 2 weeks later. also, DH's grandmother was just diagnosed last week with lung cancer - she has never smoked nor been around it much. But she's also 96.

Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
When I first heard the news, I was sure I heard the name wrong. I thought it could not be true.
My next thought was relief for her - I was reminded of my maternal grandparents because they passed only 4 months apart.
I believe there may be something to it. Often couples who are so close may pass close together.

I am glad they are together once again, but feel sad for those that are left behind.