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Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Monday, August 21, 2006 - 5:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Good luck Tuzza!! Just keep plugging away. This diet is now becoming a routine.

I mentioned it above, but I found couscous the best pasta substitute! I haven't craved pasta since adding it to my diet. It only takes 5 minutes to make and it can be added to any recipe. It takes on the flavor of the food sort of like rice.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 5:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Good luck everybody.

Ya know...I really thought I was putting the poundage back on because, to be honest, I haven't been working out as much, nor have I really been sticking to my diet.

I was at 198lbs this morning...which is a gain of at least 4 pounds because I was down to 194. I thought for sure I had packed on about 10lbs. I feel like I've put on more weight, but the scales don't lie. :D

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Monday, August 28, 2006 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Hey you must be doing something right to keep some of that weight off.

I'm sticking to my diet. I'm not losing that fast, but I can feel it in my clothes. I am wearing a full size down. My pants are all very loose. I'm giving my sil my other clothes, because I don't want to gain it back!

I make two meals at dinner. The family eats one thing, and I have my food. My energy level is good, too. I need it for school..LOL

Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Monday, August 28, 2006 - 7:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
I have just about given up on losing weight now; while I am much fitter, I am also almost 20 lbs heavier.

I keep my daily caloric intake to 1500-1800, have cut out ALL fast foods and junk foods and trans fats, workout 3 days a week with a trainer and do a minimum of 1 hour of cardio on the other days, have added hot yoga which is brutal, and still don't see any drop in any numbers.

I have stumped the trainers at my gym; they don't have a clue why I am gaining even though I am fitter. I kept a detailed to the minute diary of my diet for a 2week period, and nothing indicates a problem. I have a new trainer who says I need to be more active.

More active? I don't think so. My problem started when I got MORE active.

I wear my heart rate monitor to watch calories burned in a day - I don't go to bed before it hits 3000 or at least 500+ what my diet in calories has been for that day, which is normally around 1600.
I workout 1hour 3 times a week with a trainer and attempt to keep the heart rate up around 160 for most of the sessions.
I do a minimum of 1hour on cardio the other 4 days of the week, keeping the heart rate up above 140 the whole time.
I walk everywhere, take the stairs or run up escalators in place of elevators.
I have added hot yoga now which I want to do in place of the off-gym cardio days. This yoga is so intense that I can't possibly imagine gaining weight. I swear that I must lose 15lbs of sweat in one 90minute session.

I think after so many months with such negative results, I will give up on exercise if I do not see any drop in the numbers by the end of September.
Maybe then I will be able to lose the 20 lbs I have gained while attempting to lose 30.

I feel like I deserve to have lost some weight, but the scales don't lie.

Retired
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07-11-2001

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 6:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Retired a private message Print Post    
Shadoe, sorry you have put on weight. Any chance it's muscle mass? Have you had your body fat analyzed? I bet your are more fit than most!

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 6:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Just commenting on my mother (Shadoe) - her body is the ectomorph type, that gains muscle VERY easily. I'm willing to be a body mass analysis would show she is very in shape, and the fat has gone down. It's just that her muscle has become more dense.

Landi
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07-29-2002

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 7:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landi a private message Print Post    
DO NOT LIVE BY THE NUMBER! it's by the size of the clothes, not the #'s!! it sounds as if you are fit, and that you are living by that #. stop doing it now!

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
My mom has GAINED inches, LOL.

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calamity a private message Print Post    
Shadoe: That must be very frustrating but I have heard of people who either do not lose or actually gain weight after starting to exercise. Maybe you're really a mesomorph and not an ectomorph (just asking in case that is what you're basing your exercise routine on)? However even though the weight gain isn't completely out-of-the-ordinary, it is a little unusual for a woman to gain noticeable inches from exercising. Unless, of course, you had a very, very skinny frame and absolutely no muscle mass of which to speak before.

You sound like you know a lot about exercise, so forgive me if I suggest something you already know, lol!

Do you use weights in your workouts? There is a something called "Freestyle" weight training. It's supposed to be specifically for women. Instead of taking days off between working the same muscle groups, you work them on consecutive days which, allegedly, doesn't give them time to recover and "grow" and thus gives you a leaner muscles. Don't know how true all that is though.

Instead of doing hot yoga (which I'm guessing is like power yoga?), maybe try a slower paced version, such as Hatha. You hold the positions longer which will stretch your muscles more, making them longer and leaner. Range of motion, flexibility, and balance work also are helpful.

I don't know what your target heart rate is but another thing to keep in mind is that the prime fat-burning zone is just above mid-range. It's better to exercise longer, at a slower pace, if your goal is to burn fat. If you work out too hard, your percent of fat burned drops significantly even though you do burn more total calories.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 1:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Shadoe, you're in good shape. It sounds like you are fine.

I think the scale can be an enemy to our weight loss plans, sometimes. It can be very discouraging!

Landi, YUP!

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 5:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
I haven't lost weight like I'd like to either but I have found another benefit. I just got my lab tests back and this is what they look like.

LDL - bad cholesterol .. down 11 points in 6 months.

Overall cholesterol .. down 10 points in 6 months.

I am sure that my new exercise program had a lot to do with that.

Just thought I'd share.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 5:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
woohooo!!

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Calamity - I can try to answer some things for my mom.

First, I labelled her incorrectly. She's an ENDOmorph, I'm an ectoporph. She's short and stocky, with thick solid muscles. She has the body of a running back, like Emmett Smith or something.

She doesn't train for her body type. She's been going to hte gym for over a year now, with a personal trainer 3 times a week, doing mostly weights, and some cardio.

I've never done yoga, but it's HUGE out here in BC. I told her that if she wanted to lean out, she should try yoga, as it stretches you out. I suggested hot yoga, so that stiffness wasn't a worry, but that's my uneducated-in-yoga self talking. I don't know the differences in the types of yogas. LOL Hatha sounds good if it goes a bit slower. My mom doesn't check here as much as me, but I told her to pop in.

She found a yoga place she likes, that does hot yoga, but thee is also this stretching class they suggested to her, and I think she's going to try that one too.

Again, I don't know a ton in kinesiology, but I know too much weight will just build muscle. I know my mom has trouble with her knees, so some cardio things are hard for her, especially long workouts.

I dunno, she'll have to answer when she checks in her. But the ecto/endo thing was my fault. LOL

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calamity a private message Print Post    
I always test as an ectomorph too. Although I don't think it exactly fits me. Long arms? Check. Small frame with lean muscles? Check. Long and narrow hands and feet? Double check. Slender shoulders? Oh yeah. My tops are always slipping down my shoulders. Have had some blushing moments thanks to that. Short torso and long legs? Che- uh, wait, that's a negative. I've got a long torso and short legs (well, I think they are). Just my luck to get gyped on the long legs!!! At only 5'6", I will never qualify for the "Tall Gals" thread, lol.

Anyway, if your mom is an endomorph then my suggestions are probably considered wrong, wrong, wrong. I think endos are supposed to do high intensity exercises, especially lots of hard core cardio, to burn as many calories as possible. Hmm. This is getting really complicated, lol. Are you sure she's not taking steroids? (I am just kidding, please don't take offense, lol!)

Hatha and Iyengar both emphasize holding poses longer than some of the faster-paced types of yoga. Hatha is probably a little more "basic" but it can be very challenging too. Iyengar uses more props and focuses on alignment. I enjoy both types. I looked up hot yoga & discovered it's another name for Bikram yoga, which I've heard of but never tried. It sounds like it ought to be a good choice for weight loss.

Of course her gym and trainer know way more than I do. Sorry I couldn't be more help. I do read up on health & fitness and work out regularly but have to admit I'm not the most disciplined or driven exerciser there is. You're not likely to see me in a hot yoga class, for example, lol. And I never bother to check my heart rate. Feeling a pulse in the neck always kinda freaks me out. Maybe it has something to do with my vampire phobia, lol.

I hope she doesn't get too discouraged! I'm sure she's much healthier than when she started and that really is the most important part.

Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 4:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
OK I am alive and I am grudgingly starting to think that this yoga thing is brutal but it may be just what I need to balance out what I am doing.

I did 90 min sessions of moksha yoga on Sunday and Tuesday, and did 1 hour sessions at the gym with my trainer on Monday and today. I really feel very very good today. I truly feel charged with energy.

I asked my trainer about it - I feel like the gym is pulling my muscles and body tight, and then the yoga is doing the opposite and stretching them out again. He said that's exactly right and without the yoga, my muscles will shorten and grow bigger.

Calamity, you would be suprised at how intense yet rewarding the hot yoga can be. My first session seemed pretty hot and apparently it was over 100 degrees with humidity of 67%. No wonder we were sweating buckets. I now know why they say it's a good idea to drink a min of 1 liter of water plus don't eat for a couple hours before class.

Yes, it's bikram, but I really don't know much about the diff types. The place I go to made a change from bikram to moksha, but I have no idea what that means. When it's 100 degrees, you don't do anything powerful or fast; it;s all slow and fluid. I'll look up the poses and list them for you - they are the same as hatha. All I know is that I don't think I could do all this without the heat.

I am really looking forward to the Saturday yoga - Yin - all stretching and no posing. I spoke with one older lady who went to last week's and she said it is quite intense - imagine getting into a stretch and then holding it for 5min. I shudder at the thought but I'll give it a shot.

I starting to wonder if I am getting too healthy LOL. I always worry that my diet sucks so I have a shelf full of vitamins and supplements like MSM and Celadrin and Folic acid along with the C and E and multi and Bcomplex. I know there are more too.
I should maybe cut back on the whey protein in my shakes after gym and yoga sessions. I am not a steroid person at all; I am just trying to eat as healthily as I can.

I will say that my legs are much more solid but the thighs are slimmer. I have turned all the sludgy slimy jiggling fat into some sort of hard solid stuff.

If my left knee and right hip and right rotater cuff and right heel were not so shot, who knows how much harder I could work. Oh yea, I forgot the crappy core I have.

All I know is that I refuse to be a fit fat person. I'd rather be rock solid.

Heart rate - I can get it up to a good level during workouts and always burn up lots of calories. Today, I kept the heart rate about 150 and total calories burned for the hour was 600. During a normal hour in a day, people can figure they will burn just over 100 if they are doing some work like in an office.

Retired, yes I should get my fat index or whatever it is analyzed. My new trainer mentioned something about that a couple sessions ago; I'll have to look into it for sure.

Twiggyish, I am staying as far away from the scale as possible. I know now that I am not going to lose any weight so why bother stepping on the scale.

It's funny; I wanted to take the yoga to stretch out that delayed aches that set in 24hrs after the gym. I have found that I now need to go to the gym to work out the aches I have from the yoga sessions.

Yoga is brutally hard without a doubt.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 4:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I want to try yoga. I'd like the soft relaxing one, though. I really don't know much about yoga, so I don't know where to start.

Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 4:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
I am not sure where you are located but you could try to find some places that have an introductory offer. Drop into the studio and talk to the people there; you will get a feel about the place.

I had done a little bit decades ago but just at home and I did feel better for it so I wanted to try it again only properly in classes.
I got a $20 one week unlimited sessions so I could try it. The instructors at this studio are awesome and helped me a great deal in my positions and offered suggestions for my limitations. Even with the heat, I need more work. I definitely feel good in the heat and knees, hip, and shoulder can move better now.

I am not too sure that there is any soft variety of yoga; they are all pretty tough, but the slow movement can be done by anyone. Of course in the beginning you will not be able to twist yourself into a pretzel, but bit by bit you will find that your stretching gets easier each time, and you will be able to bend further with time.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 5:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Thanks Shadoe, I'll try finding a place. I want slow and easy in the beginning.

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 5:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
Shadoe can I just say how nice it is to see you back here. I love your attitude!

Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 1:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
Thanks Vacanick. I got caught up with 3 dimensional stuff and don't watch any of the reality shows so it was tough finding things in here.

Twiggyish, if possible, try to visit the studios to get a feel for the place and the people running it.
I went to 2 different places and I got 2 entirely opposite reactions - one place I absolutely was turned right off how they ran things and knew I would never waste my time at the place.
The I go to now seemed very pleasant and patient in giving me advice before I even said I wanted to take some sessions. When you just walk in from the street and ask some questions, it's nice to have someone really listen to you and give you useful info.
After only 2 sessions, I would recommend this hot yoga to anyone. I really feel better even if I leave the studio dripping sweat. It is extremely relaxing and if you just laid back on your mat and listened to the drone of the heat and the instructors words, you could fall right to sleep.
None of the movements are fast and you can just lie down on your mat if you feel it is too much or if you cannot do a certain move.
Be careful to avoid the hole in the wall places and get some info about the instructors education in the field.

My yoga place
Take a look at the place I selected. It's nice and close to my apt and both the staff and the other students are very pleasant.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 5:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Shadoe, that place looks really nice. I'll see if I can find something, although I don't think we have any yoga places quite like it here.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
I've wanted to try Bikrams for a while, but because Vancouver is so "into" yoga, I don't think there's much opportunity for true beginners here. (I think Eeyoreslament will know what I'm talking about). On that note, Eeyores, if you ever want to try yoga -- maybe we can do it together!

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Funny Yankee, I saw the first words of your message in the New Messages search, and I thought "Oh! Yankee wants to try! I'll go in there and ask if she wants to go with me!!" GMTA!

I actually emailed the Bikram's on Cambie & 12th, and asked for a price list, and this is what I got back from them:

quote:

Hi you can just drop in 15 minutes before a class and Your first class is $20 we have many different packages and on your first you decide that you like it and you want to buy a package then The $20 can go towards a package see you soon


It's funny that yoga people reject punctuation. LOL

Anyways, I have Thursday, Friday, and Saturday days off for the rest of the semester, so if you even want to go, email me, and I'll try it out with you.

Regarding ability level in yoga, I've had many friends go to many different places, and all of them were beginners. I've never heard one complaint that their ability level was held against them, or was embarrassing. It's like the yoga people who are able to work on their own will work on their own, and those who need help, get help. I was walking by the Cambie/12th studio one evening, and their studio has ALL picture windows, and you can see everyone doing their positions. Anyways, many people were holding the pose, others could SORT of hold the pose in a less stretched manner, and I even saw a couple people fall out of the pose and they just reset. Nobody even looked at them. I also saw the instructor walking around and sort of "repositioning" people to make sure their form was right. It looks like a very diverse group.

In any case, if you want to go in the next few weeks, it would be cool to go with a friend.

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 2:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calamity a private message Print Post    
Shadoe: Glad to read the hot yoga's seems to be working for you! I have to admit that while the idea of working out in 100 degree temps with relatively high humidity just makes me want to wilt, in actual experience I've found exercising in hot weather to often be very satisfying. I remember mentioning that in the Workout thread not that long ago (no doubt during a heat wave, lol). But I still don't want to take part in of George W. Bush's habitual runs in triple digit Texas heat.

It is GREAT that you feel so energized. When I do certain workouts, they really wear me out, which in its own way feels good. But for some others, I actually feel more energized afterwards which is always surprising but very satisfying!

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 2:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
Eeyoreslament- feel free to PM me. I just might join you!!! (loved the line about yoga ppl rejecting punctuation, btw -- haha!)