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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 4:55 pm
Vacanick - the few cleanses I've read up on, have all said medication is OK if it is necessary. If your taking Advil, that's not so necessary, they want you to fight through the headaches. But things like diabetes meds, the pill, etc, are all acceptable. It seems to me that most cleanses have their foundations in a change of diet, toward highly nutritious, fibre rich foods. As long as your following all of the other steps, you should be fine. Heck, on my cleanse, they even allow you 2 cups of black coffee a day!!
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 5:03 pm
I want to do Eeyore's cleanse. Gotta have my coffee and my happy pills.
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 5:21 pm
Thank you Eeyore! I think I'm going to try out the 7 day cleanse starting tomorrow. Do you have any tips for me??? Good for you Hermi!!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 6:29 pm
Vacanick - the only thing I did in preparation was to cut out my Starbucks leading up to my Day 1. I still drank iced tea, but it was the morning Starbucks that I thought I'd miss the most. So I took that out of my life, while still having a few other creature comforts. Seriously, this cleanse isn't so bad at all. If it's only SEVEN days for the one you want to do, that's even better! You'll have your vices back in no time! LOL
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Monday, August 28, 2006 - 7:15 am
Dahli - I have a question that maybe you could answer: On my food list, it says "Potatoes (baked)". Is there any reason why they have to be baked? Why can't I make mashed potatoes? Or roasted potatoes?
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Monday, August 28, 2006 - 6:23 pm
Day 2 of my 7 day cleansing. Not liking the fiber stuff I have to drink. Keeping my foods clean, not processed & drinking a lot of water. So far .. not much happening. Looking forward to day 3. 
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Monday, August 28, 2006 - 9:02 pm
I am at the end of Day 6. I went to the mall today, and regret it. The cinnamon bun place, the cookie place, the entire food court....*sigh* I miss my sugars and glutens!!!! THEY SMELL SO GOOD!!! Waaah!!! What is the name of the cleanse you are doing Vacanick?
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 7:30 am
Ahh Eeyore ... day 6 ... good for you!! Keep it up! I'm doing a cleanse from GNC called Anti-Toxin 7.
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Calamity
Member
10-18-2001
| Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 8:41 am
Thanks for this thread. It's been very informative.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 9:32 am
For those wondering, I have NEVER felt low-energy at all yet. In fact, even in the first few days, I probably still had the same, if not more, energy. Another question for Dahli - kind of a TMI question, so don't read on if you can't handle dirty details. This cleanse is not making me "more regular" if you catch my drift. The package even says STOP taking the "laxaherb" pills if they make you too regular. Seriously, they have had NO EFFECT on me. I would venture to say they do nothing for me, and it is merely the fibre I'm eating that does anything. Should I be worried? Maybe the cleanse isn't working, if it's not flushing me out more than once a day? (Maybe I'm looking for an excuse for it not to be working, and then I can eat a cinnamon bun or frappuccino. LOL)
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:15 pm
The potatoes in order to mash have to be boiled... loss of nutrients, and when roasted there is some browning of the flesh so also not optimal. The cleanse has not changed your 'habits' as far as frequency but what about transit time do you notice that improving? It's hard to have this kind of conversation without getting too graphic, but after Randy's issues last year,my Dad's both last year and this and now my Mom, I'm getting to be quite comfortable shooting the s--t with everyone 
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:30 pm
Oh so it's all about the "transit time". I didn't understand either. I thought it was frequency. Very interesting!
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:56 pm
Frequency is very important, but transit time is key, you want to be absorbing what you need and disposing of the waste in a timely fashion fully completely and easily!! TA DA!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 3:21 pm
Yes, transit time has most definitely improved. Mind you...OK GRAPHIC ALERT - don't read on unless you don't mind the graphic part!! OK, I am a "once a day" person. Although before the cleanse, I'll admit, I was less than that (and fine with it! LOL). But now, it seems like morning clockwork. But, ummm....I like corn for dinner, and can recognize that my transit time is overnight. BUT, what about breakfast. I guess that's in there too. That's kind of what seems not as good to me. (On a side note, my bf visits the office multiple times a day). My whole diet is fiber now, but I just can't catch up to him!! :-( It's a shame about the potatoes. I may try smashing them after I bake them and adding a bit of butter and carmelized onions for flavor. Gosh, the dollop of sour cream would have helped. LOL
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 6:17 pm
Why can't I microwave things? How am I supposed to heat things up?
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 8:31 pm
Transit time sounds good! Corn is a good marker and is one of the best things used to test that time line but only rarely, is it something you eat often? The goal of course is when one meal goes in, the one prior goes 'out' The peristalsis issue I'm working on with my Dad is along these lines, where the body works to expell anything it took in and worked over when something new comes in... Avoiding having anything hang around is the way to prevent lots of issues including leaky gut. The 'office'!! White potatoes? I don't eat those much so I'm struggling to come up with an option there... yogurt and spices is something we have done for topping. Are you allowed sweet or yams? or are you still working on a perogy fix? LOL!! Who told you not to microwave...? I don't based on the premise that heating food basically kills it, microwaving is way past murdering it but people do it all the time unfortunately. What things are you heating up? Perhaps we can come up with something to substitute? I'm glad to hear about your energy levels, you're doing great and learning a lot I'd guess... but just like it was with me and smoking, it's a lot more mind work.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 9:28 pm
Ruh Roh....is corn bad? I like corn. At least for this diet. I can safely say I will not be KEEPING this diet going after Sunday. LOL I will add certain things to my diet more, like brown rice (it too is a good marker), but I certainly won't be giving up my dairy and my sugar foods. LOL My daily diet consists of lots of apples (with almond butter), brown rice (with carmelized onions for flavour), corn, broccoli, grilled red or green peppers, and about 3 or 4 bites of chicken or my roast. I just went and bought 2 tubs of strawberries, and cherries. I really need the sweet flavour. I like the broccoli, but it is a PITA to cook when I'm in a rush. Today I made two baked potatoes (it's been over a week that I haven't had potatoes! Bad Ukrainian!). My daily drink is either water, or diluted apple juice (I'm at 40% AJ). I have to microwave some things, as my lifestyle/schedule doesn't allow me to cook every meal. I make a BIG thing of brown rice, and warm up portions as I need it. The beef is a bit fatty, so I warm it up to let the "chilled fat" leak off the piece of meat. LOL The biggest challenge is my picky-ness with food. I always have been picky. That's why my diet is s limited. I have some asparagus in the fridge too that I intend to cook up. I don't like the bitterness of greens, so salad is out of the question. Oh!! I also have some cucumber to cut up and eat. It's just the rice and corn are so easy!! LOL But seriously, is corn bad for you? As for the transit time, it's great that corn for dinner makes an appearance in the morning, but considering there weren't any other trips to the office since the previous morning, then it stands to reason that all three meals of the day are included, so it's kind of bad that breakfast is not making its appearance until the next morning (with the corn), right? Should I be worried? I thought that this cleanse would get me to the state you want your dad in, where one meal pushes another out... Comments? PS - I went in to my work up at SFU today, and everyone said I looked different and better, and that it looked like I had lost weight. So that made me feel good. That said, I haven't lost a SINGLE POUND!!! LOL I am 140!!! Funny thing is that I haven't weighed myself in years, and had estimated I was around 130. Yikes!!!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 1:19 am
Transit time is HUGELY important!! It was one of the keys to my ds' probs. Eeyore, not all greens are bitter. Have you tried romaine or baby lettuce?
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 7:34 am
Seriously Tex, I like the sweetness of ICEBREG letteuce. Romaine is too bitter for me (and that says a lot, doesn't it!) LOL I think there is this growing "awareness" of the colon, for people who are younger and younger. You wouldn't think it was important until you were older. But now, it's like tons of people my age (and younger) are watching their fiber intake, and doing these cleanses. Maybe it's just that I live in Vancouver, that I am exposed to this topic more. I'm going to try to keep more things like brown rice in my diet. I like rice, and just never KNEW that brown rice was better for you, and why. It's just such a simple switch over, and does your body good. Giving up dairy and sweets: not so simple!! LOL I am feeling a bit of apprehension about my bf coming home tomorrow. He's been in Greece for 38 days, and our usual MO is to go out for dinner a lot. I still have 4 days left on this cleanse (tomorrow), and I sort of want to break it so we can go out for dinner, or do something special this weekend. This is the last week of our fair, so I was kind of thinking I wanted to go there this weekend. But what's a fair without the little donuts, or a hot dog? The fair isn't a 3 hour excursion; it's an all day thing, so you have to eat there. I think I may go Sunday, and just break the cleanse 12 hours early. One thing I'm wondering: when you go off a cleanse, does your body resist the sugar and dairy foods? The last thing I want to do is go to the fair, and eat an ice cream, only to have to RUN to the bathroom and be forced to wait in a line up as my innards explode. I know on the master's cleanse, it takes 3 or 4 days to get your body onto solid food again. But I'm just wondering about this one, because I eat solid food, but I don't know what the dairy, sugar, and flour will do to my system at first.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 10:34 am
You might feel nauseous after eating if you jump right into eating junk.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 11:15 am
That sucks. Maybe I'll break it a day early and make some pasta with sauce at home, and have yogurt in the morning Sunday. Those things are technically off limits for the diet, but they are still relatively healthy, and will help me reintroduce those foods into my system, with the safety of my bathroom nearby!! I'll keep taking the pills, but eat healthy-yet-against-the-rules foods the night before (end of day 11 of 12).
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 1:50 pm
That's so cool that comments were made, and you're likely close to getting that 'glow' you saw on your friend. It's incredible to think how grateful the body is and quickly it can react and respond to the right fuel and some clean spark plugs!! Tex is right.. but if you take it easy it will not be as hard I'm sure. Do you use whole wheat pasta? it's also very good, same advantage as brown rice, it's a small change with bigger payoff than the white stuff. Sugar can be kicked, and if you try to stick with fruits and stevia to wean yourself off them, the cravings should be history. Someone I know refers to dairy as liquid formica and so it's lost its appeal with the exception of the occasional latte... LOL! You're so right about understanding the colon, sometime when you have a few minutes you really should go to www.thedoctorwithin.com and read the chapter called journey to the centre of the colon. It's amazing.
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 1:59 pm
ps Eeyore, if you're at the once a day point with a good transit time, that's terrific. Lots of people are wishing they were going that often! You don't turn years of certain things around in days. But you are definitely moving in the right direction. No pun intended LOL If you feel the Master Cleanse is something you could do, it might be worth trying, in the future, it will change how you feel about greens I'm pretty sure. The only thing is that sometimes they recommend those with candida avoid the maple syrup, and you must use it, can't do the cleanse without it. I'm not sure it's a bad thing to use it even so, but these cravings you talk about make me wonder...what's going on with yeast and you.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 2:37 pm
Dahli, it's not so much that I CRAVE, but more that I'll walk by the cinnamon bun place in the mall, and the aroma is so inviting. At home, I'm completely fine and don't think about sugar or pancakes or anything like that. It's more about being out and about, and smelling the smells of the familiar tasty sugar food. Quite honestly, I think I'd be OK with only the occasional sweet. But it's just that I've lost ALL of my comfort foods. I like sour cream with my potatoes, as I enjoy perogies. Or....no tomato sauce is bugging me, because I like pasta. Or, I could totally go for a stir fry, but no teriyaki sauce ruins it. I think everything in moderation is fine. If your whole diet is pretty much the same fiber wise, but you add more of the flavourings you like, I think a person could still be healthy. I talked to my friend who did the cleanse, and she said day 6 and 7 were the worst for her too, because you've come so far, but you still have so far to go. She was very supportive, and gave me some new food ideas. I had never thought of organic soups and stuff. We have a ton of great organic and health food markets, that offer fresh food for me to check out. My friend also said she experienced the loss of appetite and the breakfast troubles. She's lucky though, she could eat eggs, whereas I'm allergic. LOL One of the things I am looking forward to is that she said she STILL doesn't go back to sugars and vinegars as much after the first time she did the cleanse, as thy are way too sweet and vinegary. Like the flavours have become extreme. I am hoping that with the things she has experienced being so similar to my experiences, I think I will probably follow her that way too. I doubt I will have the same penchant for sweets that I did before the cleanse. I may make my sweets a once-a-week thing, or something like that. We'll see how it goes. But no, I only crave foods when I am exposed to them. And I lament not being allowed to eat out (even ordering a healthy meal) because it's not COMPLETELY following the diet rules.
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 2:49 pm
Eeyore ... your cleanse sounds so much more involved than mine. Which one are you doing??
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