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Rosie
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11-12-2003

Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 6:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
Treasure and Tess, do we all need to move to MN to avoid snow? lol

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 9:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
LOL Rosie! Treasure, haven't ya'll been in the middle of a major drought (going on years?) With as little rain as you have, are you having flooding too now?

We woke up with snow on the ground, not much cuz most of it melted overnight, but enough. Harvey was quite funny, he'd never seen snow and he walked out back and kinda hopped around the yard. I stood in the doorway laughing cuz he was really trying to get out to the yard without touching the ground!

Today it was cold with the snow on the mountains and the wind pushing that cold air down to the floor of the valley. Clear skies til about 3 or so then it poured down rain.

Bil took the kids up to Leona Valley to play in the snow earlier today. They spent hours playing, lol. They got home, Dakota walked in the house and told us her butt was wet and Caleb was wanting to know when it was going to get warm! Bil said Dakota spent most the time making snow angels while Caleb was attacking our uncle with snow balls. They left right around the time it started raining here, it started snowing there. Bil said it was bad enough they rushed the kids into the car and pretty much prayed they'd make it home without getting snowed in. I think tomorrow is supposed to be cold but then it's supposed to warm up later on this week, I hope! I'm getting tired of this, lol.

Coco, I hear Big Bear is looking great! Bil really wanted to head up that way but chains are required and he wasn't sure how far they'd get before being turned back. I bet your son and his gf will have a great time!

Treasure
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06-26-2002

Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 9:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Treasure a private message Print Post    
Mamapors, not to worry. It doesn't stay cold for very long around here. It only got to about 58 today. But it is suppose to be mid 60's by Tuesday, about 72 by Wednesday and Thursday and next weekend will be about 80. Clear weather all week.

Wink I am very glad she got out of here before the rain came.

Rosie, I can almost guarantee that we won't see an actual measurable amount of snow in "The Valley of the Sun" for several more years. It really is a rare occurrence.

Wargod, Fortunately, this was just a very long soaking rain. But yes, there are areas that will flood with the any heavy or extended period of rain. And yes, we are definitely in drought conditions. We are so very glad that we at least have a 3' snow pack in the mountains, now. It isn't much but it is better than the "nothing" we were looking at before this weekend. This is the first significant snowfall in the north country that we have had all winter long. Next month is when we normally heat up into the mid 80's or higher. That means fire danger. But this year we have already had a number of wildfires because of the lack of moisture.

So, this storm helped a little. But we still are in serious trouble with so little rain. One of the folks who watches for and reports on fire conditions has stated that the only thing that would really help is if we had a storm like this one go through here about every month. Well, that isn't going to happen, I can guarantee it.

It also doesn't help that we have all this housing construction going on all over the valley. Big communitees being build and sucking up the aquifer. As we are losing the aquifer the ground is becoming baked and cracked and then we get a big storm and the water hits the hardpack and runs off causing erosion. We are damaging the high desert with the constant construction and folks using up so much water because they want lots of lush green grass for a lawn and lots of trees to look at. It Is A DESERT. We are not suppose to be growing Fir and Pine! We are not suppose to have a little lake in our back yard!

Uggg. Ok, I will stop there.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 11:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
LOL, I completely with ya. The last few years we've had more rain than usual (I think last year we had record breaking rain falls) but usually we're more like you, very little rain, though we do get the snow up in the mountains.

We go through that here too, with people wanting the green yards when we've had no rain. Whats worse is the city ordinance that says you have to have green grass or get a warning then a fine. Then you get the notice from the water company informing you cuz we're in a drought if you use over your base of water they'll charge you for that, lol. Can't win!

I'm glad to hear you aren't having the flooding! It can be very bad when the grounds not ready for it and then throw in the construction and it makes it worse.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 11:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Oh, Coco, I meant to say earlier, it truly wouldn't have surprised me if you'd gotten snow last night! With as low as the snow levels were and as cold as it was, nothing would have surprised me, lol.

Tess
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04-13-2001

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 2:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tess a private message Print Post    
Rosie, it seems like you have a better chance of avoiding snow here in MN than anywhere else this winter. We were promised 10 inches of the fluffy white stuff tonight and what did we get..... a thunder storm! In March! pfffffffft!!!

If it does finally snow I'll know just who to blame.......

Tess
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04-13-2001

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 2:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tess a private message Print Post    
Well heck! I no sooner post that and what do you know? I looked outside and it's a veritable winter wonderland! Very pretty but it ain't no stinkin' 10 inches!

<glares in the general direction of the Pacific Northwest>



Rosie
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11-12-2003

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 5:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
LOL Tess. <waiting for Juju2bigdog to proclaim her innocence>

Treasure, you mentioned Superstition and the news this morning is reporting that some scouts had to be rescued from that location.

War, yay for the kids playing in the snow! I can imagine your doggie trying to get outside and not touch the snow. lol

Jagger
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08-07-2002

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 6:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jagger a private message Print Post    
Tess you spoke too soon, we won't get the 10 inches, but we'll get a good 6 inches at least. There was already 4 inches when I left for work this morning at 5 am and it's been snowing pretty hard ever since. If it would have been a few degrees colder we would have gotten the 10 inches plus with as nasty as it was last night. Hopefully it'll all melt so I don't have to shovel this heavy crap.

Tess
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04-13-2001

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tess a private message Print Post    
Yeah, we finally have a fair amount and pitiful little Miss Sarah is too sick with double ear infections to go out and play. She's dying to use her snowboard which she got with Christmas money. Poor child. The closed Academy of the Holy Angels but none of the Bloomington schools closed (of course!). Only PM Kindergarten is cancelled but we don't have AM/PM for the Kinders---just all day.

We got all that rain first down here which is why we don't have so much snow. Big ole thunderstorm hit after dinner time.

Treasure
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06-26-2002

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Treasure a private message Print Post    
Yep, Rosie, I am really glad that those scouts and leaders were able to be found and brought out. They are doing fine. Cold, hungry and a couple of the kids have frostbite on hands and feet. But they did fine. They didn't expect the weather to get as bad as it did.

The Superstitions aren't very big but it is a very rugged area. People are frequently lost in there and a few never make it out.

Have you ever heard the legend of "The Lost Dutchman's Mine"? The story goes that there was a Dutchman that ran a Mercantile in the 1800's in a small town in the Superstitions. He would disappear for a few days several times a year. Town folk surmised that he was prospecting up in the hills. He always seemed to come back with a fair amount of "dust" and small nuggets of gold. Then one day he left town and never returned. That was the beginning of the "legend". Every year people go up into the Superstitions looking for his hidden mine.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
And every person who goes searching for the Dutchman's mine is convinced only he/she knows where it's at and they're absolutely positive that they are right and everyone else is wrong and one day they'll find it. That's funny Treasure there was a Searching For...show on the History channel last weekend about the Dutchman's Mine.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
Treasure, I think we should have a TVCH Meet at Superstition! lol

Treasure
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06-26-2002

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Treasure a private message Print Post    
Well, there are several versions of the tale.

The first thing that must be told is that, geologicly, there is no reason to believe that there are any veins of gold in the Superstitions. It looks for like a huge volcanic force pushed rock and lava straight up.

Anyway, the one tale says that he found a rich vein of gold.

Another tale has it that there was a mule train led by Spanish soldiers (or maybe Mexican) that was carrying a gold shipment through the area. They were attacked and killed by Apache warriors. Now, the Indians didn't really have any use for the gold, so they hid it in a cave somewhere up there. Supposedly you can find that cave if you happen to see the sun shining through a hole in a rock formation called Needle Rock. Like the sun shining through the eye of the needle. If the time of the year is proper, the beam of light through the eye of the needle will give the location of the cave.

Wargod, which story did they tell on the History channel?

Rosie, I love to look out to the Superstitions. They look like no mountain you have everseen. The shape is so intriging. It looks almost like a rock fortress.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
What I heard was that the Indians made trade agreements with the people settling the area and ever so often they'd show up in the town (or near town) with gold to trade for whatever they were trading for. The townsfolk knew they didn't have much use for the gold so it was assumed they had it hidden in a cave somewhere up there. Later (no idea how much later) the Dutchman found the cave but would never tell where exactly it was. I missed the first couple minutes so there may have been something about the Apache attacking soldiers and getting it from there.

The funniest part was that they were interviewing a few of the treasure seekers and did a split screen and two of the guys were right with each other talking about the legend and the clues that are out there, then one guy says it's somewhere to the east as the other is saying somewhere to the west and how both were close to finding it and anyone who was anywhere else looking for it was looking in the wrong spot.

Treasure
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06-26-2002

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Treasure a private message Print Post    
ehehe The one thing that is never mentioned is why the mule train with all that gold was even going through the Superstitions.

The biggest clue that all the treasure hunters focus on is Needle Rock. Yes, there really is such a formation by that name up there. But everything around there has been thoroughly searched. Or as much as it can be.

The entire area is like a Mesa with steep rock walls. Mesa means table in Spanish. So picture looking down on the top of a table that is broken and covered with thousands of cracks that are any where from a few feet to several hundred feet deep. Jagged rocks poke toward you. This table top covers maybe 100 or more square miles. That is what you see when you fly over it in a plane. every once in a while our news stations will give us a treat and have their helicopter fly over the mountain. It is an awesome site.

From my street and looking east, I can see the western face of this most mystical sight.

Anyway, the snow is slowly going away. It now is only covering about 1/4 down the side. By the end of the week it will all be gone and we will be in the 80's.

Tess
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04-13-2001

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 4:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tess a private message Print Post    
Official snow total is 9.7" at my house. They say on the news that at some points in time it was snowing 3"/hour. ack! We went from teetering on the brink of summer to smack dab in the middle of winter all in one crazy night. Welcome to my world. And the little munchkin is way too sick to even build a snowman. She hasn't even asked. That's a first for the princess of winter sports. :-(

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 4:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
it's been in the upper 70's and lower to mid 80's here for well over two weeks. i'd love some snow.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 5:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Juju2bigdog is innocent!!!

Perfectly normal weather everywhere I have been.



Wargod
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07-16-2001

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 8:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
It got up to a whopping 54 degrees here today, I was so excited I went out in a sweatshirt! I'm usually freezing if it's under 70 but after this weekend with it so cold, I was thrilled being over 45, lol.

Treasure
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06-26-2002

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Treasure a private message Print Post    
Wargod, I am glad you are here. I have some pictures I would like to download here but some of them may be a little too big. Could you cut them down to size if they are? I will wait for your answer before I post them.

Treasure
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06-26-2002

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 9:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Treasure a private message Print Post    
Oh, Mamapors, You did say you were coming to Scottsdale on Tuesday. Well, it is suppose to be 72 tomorrow, 79 on Thursday and then drop to 69 on Saturday with the possibility of rain over the weekend. How long are you staying?

Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 9:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
Through Sunday. I looked at the weather online and it does not look good for Saturday or Sunday. And we are going to baseball games. I just put my umbrella in my suitcase. Treasure, anything would be better than here. It has been wet and cold. Even 72 sound warm. Thanks. Are you close to Scottsdale?

Treasure
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06-26-2002

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Treasure a private message Print Post    
I am in Mesa which is to the south and a touch east of Scottsdale.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Monday, March 13, 2006 - 9:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Treasure, if you want to email them to me, I'll resize them for you if I can. My emails wargod617@msn.com.