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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Now Max. You hit the nail on the head... It's not the money, it's the fact you work from home.

Although I still work at home 2 days a week (well, 3 this week), I work in Mission Viejo. Which means that I take a train for 1.5 hours each way, three times a week. I have met a TON of people on the train. Seriously. Some of them are friends, and one I've dated a couple of times. I was musing about this oddity to another female friend the other day... how suddenly I'm so much more "exposed" to the world.

P.S. Boink buddies work wonders for one's psyche! <snicker>

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Newman, Steambath (which I read in 1970) is about everything (except the dating) that you are discussing here. It is both hilarious and very deep.

In it, God is a Puerto Rican steambath attendant. And there are five people sitting in the steambath who slowly surmise they are dead. They each have conversations with the attendant. The play is about the essential questions.

I know a movie has been made of it, but I have never seen it. (On DVD now) I'd recommend you read it before you try to find the DVD. It made a huge impression on me.

Here's a site with one person's synopsis, which I like very much because for me, it rings true:

Steambath Synopsis

I'm sure there are other sites online which discuss the play, too.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
I really hate the dating scene. Most men I've dated all seem in it for sex. If you don't put out, they don't see you again. I really don't date much.

At 39 I've accepted I will be alone.

Boink Buddies....is that becoming more normal in this day and age for older singles?

Max
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08-12-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Well, Heidi Fleiss is going to open a new brothel in Nevada that caters to women -- that is, you can hire a man for a few hours to please you. :-) Maybe I'll take a nice, long drive to Nevada. After all, I have a friend who lives in Reno! LOL

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
Ohhh...I heard about that.

Cultural changes...much more exposure to sex and sexuality now then there was 20 years ago.

I hear Oregon was debating having live sex shows on stage at certain clubs.

Do our views on sex change our of views on dating?

I'm babbling again. Just curious what others think.

Cher
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08-18-2004

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cher a private message Print Post    
Kearie - I agree with hating the dating scene, I feel the same way. I am "46" and have accepted that I will be alone, as I too feel most men I have dated are out for one thing. So true they never call again. I would rather be alone.

Rabbit
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08-12-2001

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rabbit a private message Print Post    

quote:

I hear Oregon was debating having live sex shows on stage at certain clubs.




Now just to be clear, my house is not a club, and I will put the drapes back up. And frankly the legislature should have more important things to do.

Heyltslori
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09-15-2001

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heyltslori a private message Print Post    


Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I must be weird. I don't mind the dating scene. But what I end up with are men who want relationships. And I don't. Kinda the opposite of what most women want. (Maybe that's why the men do? That thrill of the chase, having what you cannot thang?)

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Boink buddies are for any age.

Sillycalimomma
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11-13-2003

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sillycalimomma a private message Print Post    
booty calls

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
That's right Sill booty call on speed dial.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
Rabbit, yer too silly.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 8:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Max, are you me? Okay, so you're a few months younger, but I also work at home, so it's hard to meet eligible age-appropriate men. I also tried the internet, and found that men who were interested in women my age tended to lie about their age (or their height!), so they'd actually be much older and shorter than me. I was married for almost 23 years, and my ex was shorter than me, so it's not so much that I'm shallow, but I figure if you would lie about something that is apparent as soon as we meet, what else would you lie about? If I'm ever in another relationship, I want it to be truly loving and caring, and I won't settle for less. As much as it would be nice to have someone to take care of my future financial needs, I'd rather be alone and happy than married and miserable.

Newman
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09-25-2004

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Newman a private message Print Post    
What happened to the good old days when everyone was trying to fix Newman? I miss the attention <sniffle>. (just joking)

I think we can carry two or more conversations at once. Why not. I'd like to join in with Kearie, Brenda, Max, and Cher in the hating dating group. I don't think I've ever really dated much in my life. Usually I've fallen into something. Just naturally, in a casual environment, like co-ed softball.

Those days are over. My most recent success was when a friend set me up with a friend of hers. That one lasted about a year. Never had much luck with internet dating either.

I think if you are set up thru a friend you don't have to worry so much that the other person is a psycho. Then you just have to see if you have anything in common, any chemistry, any flow of conversation, any spark, or does she just want one thing - sex, sex, sex?

Kearie, I don't believe in the super-natural either. I don't have ESP or pyschic powers. I suppose they could exist but I don't know anyone who has them or who could (here we go again) prove them to me scientifically. I suppose that kind of stuff could exist. They made the movie "The Exorcist". Lots of people believe in that hocus pocus voodoo crapola. Just not me. Do you? Why?

I went to a faith healer once. He couldn't fix my knee. Gave it a shot. Had knee surgery instead. So I'm open to the possibilities, but I doubt they exist.


Newman
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09-25-2004

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 9:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Newman a private message Print Post    
Merry, totally agree with your last thought. I'd like to find someone too if it were a loving and caring and fun relationship but I'd rather be alone and free than married and miserable.

Karuuna, I suspect that if I had a near death experience and came out of it against all odds, where they pronounced me dead on the operating table, well, then I too would believe in God. That's easy.

What Granny is telling Jimmer to do is hard. How can you work on faith first, then have God become clearer? That's putting the cart before the horse. I have faith that the chair will hold me because I can see the chair, feel the chair, and past practices convince me that the chair will hold me.

I don't see nor hear God. How can you have faith in something you don't see or feel or hear? It's not logical. I have faith that the sun will rise in the morning. I can see the sun and feel it's warmth. And if it doesn't come up, well, we'd all be dead anyway.

Karuuna and Granny, I'm curious, I know it's none of my business, but do you pray to God? Why? How? What for?

Herckle, I'll try to see if I can get that book at the library. Thanks for the tip. Also curious about that movie, "What the bleep". Others have mentioned it to me as well.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 9:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
I asked because I was simply curious to whether people who don't believe in God and that spiritual realm, believe in the flipside of that realm. Do you believe in any spiritual realm?

My sister believes in psychics. I think she has gone to the same one since she was a teen. I believe some may exist, but most are hoaxes and certainly on the spiritual side I don't want to mess with.

There used to be an hour long show on up here with a guy who supposedly talked to people's dead relatives.

Yes, I believe in both sides of the spiritual realm....( For me, God and satan both exist and their spiritual followers)

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 9:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I had what I consider a psychic experience - I was out walking my dog, and I had such a strong urge to go in and hug my oldest son and tell him I loved him. This was something I did routinely with my younger two, but my oldest was not quite as open to demonstrations of affection. But I felt so strongly that I did it, and he hugged me back and told me he loved me, too. The next day he was in an accident where his car rolled over twice and came to a stop on its roof. Fortunately, he was wearing his seatbelt and didn't have a scratch on him except for a small one he got climbing out the broken passenger side window, but I couldn't help but think that if it had been worse, I had told him I loved him!

Urgrace
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08-19-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 10:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Urgrace a private message Print Post    
Interpretation of God, religion, baptism, Christianity, books or the Bible is never exactly the same to two different persons, let alone the whole world. Anyone who has studied symbolism should see that interpretation can scatter in a lot of directions.

My God is omnipotent. He is everywhere. That includes China or remote Africa where they haven't read the Holy Bible.

Baptism is not a requirement to heaven, although it is a ritual taken very seriously. Baptism is a ceremony as donning a cap and gown with pomp and circumstance is not the graduation but the ceremony for graduation.

Religion was invented to teach consequence. It has worked for thousands of years, although in recent centuries the concept has broadened into thousands of beliefs that sometimes mirror and sometimes conflict.

My personal belief doesn't hinge on religion, but in a strong faith that this omnipotent power is the Father of all creation.

Mameblanche
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04-13-2005

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 12:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
My Granny would make Christmas dinner with a turkey and cranberry sauce and all the trimmings or we would all go out for a traditional Christmas dinner. In the European tradition, they let me open my presents which were under the Christmas tree on Christmass eve. Then dad and I would go to the movies, etc. on Christmas day. (Once my mom got wind of this she threatened to cut off visitation, and poof, there went my Christmas tree... Sigh.)

And no, I'm NOT half Jewish. Both my parents are Jewish, but while my mom is traditional/conservative, dad's family was very quite simply very assimilated and they enjoyed the Christmas season full-tilt boogey.

The story is frankly a sad one... His dad had a high position at a company in Europe, and to fit in they lived like the neighbours who were Catholic, and my dad and his brother enjoyed life just fine thanks. But one day when dad was very young he came home from school black and blue. His parents freaked out, and tried to get to the bottom of it. Evidently some parents had figured out that my grandparents were Jewish, told their kids, and boom. They beat up my dad... who came home confused, and angry, that these kids had taunted him as a Jew. And that's when his parents sat him and my uncle down and explained that they were of the 'chosen people'. No wonder dad associated good feelings with Christmas, etc, Judaism meant getting the crap kicked out of him. What a lovely introduction to his actual heritage.

What's interesting is that both my dad and my uncle married Jewish women, but they still tried to balance the best of both worlds. He never lived long enough to see me married, and to a Catholic at that. But he told me not long before he passed away that as long as the man I married loved me, dad didn't care what religeon he was. I like to think that I have dad's open-hearted optimism and inclusiveness.

And that's my story, and I'm sticking to it. :-)

Grannyg
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05-28-2002

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grannyg a private message Print Post    
Very well said, Gracie!!

Newman
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09-25-2004

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Newman a private message Print Post    
Grannyg, come on. Get vulnerable here and share. Do you pray? How? Why?

Kearie, I want to be spiritual. I've always been attracted to Eastern religions. I've tried my own form of zen meditation but felt nothing came from it and dropped it.

I want to be a well rounded person, and develop all sides of ME. That would be physical, intellectual, and spiritual. I think I've done well with the first two but not with spiritual. I don't litter. Does that count? I don't pollute when I can help it, turning off the engine even when it's super cold, so as to not harm the environment unnnecessarily. Is that spiritual or just political correctness?

Merry, here's my psychic experience. Drove cross country to visit twin. Told him I'd concentrate on a black playing card, not a face card, and when I walked in I wanted him to tell me what it was. I had it taped to my dashboard all the way. Opened the door and he said "Four of Clubs". Right!!!! But that doesn't make me believe in God.



Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Well my aunt was set up with a man that her friends thought was perfect for her. They got married and he tried to kill her. So no you really can't tell who's a psycho and who isn't.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 7:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Newman you're not gonna be able to bait Granny into answering lol. And I'm curious, what difference does it make if she prays or when or why?

Dahli
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11-27-2000

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dahli a private message Print Post    
Speaking of dating if I recall correctly Scott Peterson was intro'd to Amber by a friend of hers... yipes!!

Dating was one of my favourite things and I often miss it because there's a lot of interesting people out there,and getting to explore, share lively conversations and understand others really made me happy.
And though I don't live alone and don't date much anymore = I'm a huge flirt, even with my DH cuz it's so much fun - it's done in a way to make others enjoy themselves and feel good so it's a win win plus I love to have fun and the first few dates were usually a lot of fun. Typically subsequent dates got to be 'intense' if you catch my drift LOL!

Newman, after you watch Bleep, and you will likely be intrigued then pick up Lynne McTaggart's "The Field". A little quantum physics for the holidays is always fun!

I enjoy the trips to the farthest reaches my real self/mind is capable of, since it helps to stretch or exercise that part of me. Plus my Faith teaches that 'religion' is the truth and science is the proof - and by religion I don't mean the pomp and circumstance that it has been twisted into by a group of scaremongers but the spirit and the core message that my true spirit craves and that unfortunately continues to get garbled in the mainstream...by those with their own agendas.