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Chaplin
Member
01-08-2006
| Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 9:13 pm
Anyone watch the Ice Dancing tonight? The Italian and the Canadian medal contenders both had some serious problems. We will have to see what happens tomorrow!
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 10:13 pm
I saw it -- YIKES! That poor Canadian girl will by lucky to be able to walk tomorrow. I was so glad to see the American couple do well, though. Like Dick Button said, it was nice to see a couple do exactly what they came to do and to live up to the OLYMPIC standard. 
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 1:46 am
Was it the Canadian girl who fell? I didn't catch where they were from, but man she fell hard and from quite a height! Dakota woke up around 11 and after trying to let her go back to sleep on the couch (I was watching the Olympics in the den and she kept coming in to watch, lol) I went and sat with her and watched. Now she's wide awake so we're going to try to catch the rebroadcast which starts in a couple minutes and see if we can see the first part of the Ice Dancing. Sigh...it's a good thing she's out of school tomorrow!
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 5:51 am
Well!!! Kona, are you pumped? Go Cousin Ben!!!
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Jan
Moderator
08-01-2000
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 10:50 am
Sigh we had such high hopes for our Canadian team. I heard some analysts quoting Patrice (the guy) who said maybe his adrenalin was running too high while he was spinning which may have caused him to spin too quickly - the gravitational forces from a spin that is too fast would have forced her hands to let go. Ah well, I guess no medals for us this time but we can cheer happily for the USA team. The woman was a Canadian before getting her American citizenship by a special order of congress on new years eve!!!! That should give us a little reason to smile I guess. 
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Lumbele
Member
07-12-2002
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 10:58 am
In all the years that I have watched ice dancing, never have I seen so many falls. The worst one used to notice would be a little stumble, rarely a fall. And then came last night, holy smokes! Hope the free dance will be safer. Unlike Jan I didn't give this Canadian team much of a chance for medals. Buttle's bronze was a really nice surprise. Hope the U.S. couple can keep it together to give a Russians a run for their money. TVCH solidarity and all that, right, Kona?LOL
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:17 am
Anyone know why the ice dancers are falling so much? As Lumbele said, it is very unusual. Is the ice bad?
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Lumbele
Member
07-12-2002
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:22 am
Underhill and Martini mentioned that it may be that under the new system, the dancers may be packing too many difficult moves into their programs to rack up the points. Didn't hear any criticism of the ice, although since they also use that venue for short track, I think, it may get more chewed up than normal.
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Jan
Moderator
08-01-2000
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:34 am
Lum and Jimmer, I heard Martini address the ice issue this AM. He said that no, no one has complained re the ice; that , in fact, the ice people (whatever they are called??) have done an amazing job of going between the two sports with their different needs. As Lumbele said, Martini thinks it is because of the new point system ( and not that that is a bad thing). It seems that , before this new point system, whatever the order was after compulsory, that is the order that the medals ended up. There was never any movement in the standings. Ice dancers had to pay their dues and it took forever to get to the top ranks. With the new system, any of the top teams can win with an excellent program. Therefore, the teams are throwing in lots of hard stuff. I guess they are all trying to break new ground - much like in regular skating with the intro of the quad. and now the quad in combination. I guess that is how a sport moves forward. So I think we can remember the old way of ice dancing as the 'olden days". "It ain't your gramma's ice dance any more"!!
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 12:01 pm
Wasn't there something too about scoring more points if they waited til the second half of their program to do the more difficult tricks and by then they're starting to get tired?
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 12:05 pm
Maybe they're just too cold! Perhaps they should rethink these bare look costumes.
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Jan
Moderator
08-01-2000
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 12:34 pm
  The canadians just officially pulled out and will not be performing tonight. Nothing is broken but she is in too much pain and can barely stand let alone skate  They are in their 30's so not likely to be at the next Olympics wither. A sad way to end their last olympics - I hope she suffers no permanent damage.
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Kearie
Member
07-21-2005
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 1:12 pm
I was just coming in here to ask about her. Glad she didn't break anything. It was a horrible fall, I felt so bad for them. I'm so glad she wasn't seriously injured, but it's sad she had to pull out.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 1:13 pm
Oh, that's too bad about the Canadians. What a horrific fall! And so much guts for her to get back up and finish her final pose! I see by the start list in today's Free Dance that their program music is the soundtrack to Somewhere In Time. What a wonderful movie! I'd love to have seen that program. Perhaps at Worlds. Folks on the figure skating board were talking about the "death glare" Barbara Fusar-Poli was giving her partner after their fall. It looks like a lot of people (her partner included?) live in fear of crossing her! Hurray for Tanith and Ben! I was a fan of theirs even before I found out about their TVCH connection! That just makes it all the more cool! Crossing my fingers here they have a great free skate! Wargod, to answer your question....I know in the singles at least (since that's where I've heard it talked about the most during the commentaries), if they put a difficult element like a jump in the second half of their program, its worth more points. I believe its to show stamina/strength, and that the skater still has enough "gas in the tank" to do the difficult stuff even towards the end of the program. The new CoP (Code of Points) rewards that. Seems to reason they'd have the same sort of scoring set up for Pairs and Dance.
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Kearie
Member
07-21-2005
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 1:15 pm
Jimmer, not only is it the new way of scoring, but I think it also gets into their psyche. They save the best skaters for last and when 4 out of the last six pairs falls, it really plays on the mind. More cautious, stiff, nervous...all of it. I think the place becomes filled with an aura of errors.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 1:26 pm
With respect to the new scoring, I don’t like it that much. It does seem that it may have made ice dancing much more competitive and it may be fairer, but I think it has produced a lot of negatives for figure skating in general. The programs all seem very similar, they seem much more mechanical and programmed, there is no accountability for the judging (we can’t see who is scoring what) and the judging isn’t as exciting. Maybe it’s just that I’m used to the old way. Now before someone suggests that I liked crooked unfair judging – no I didn’t. But I did prefer the old system if it could have been done ethically.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 5:12 pm
Jimmer, I too miss not seeing a perfect score. Holding your breath after what looks like an excellent skate. Will it be a perfect 6.0?! How many?! Now there's the highest score, but not a number that is a perfect score. But I think this new scoring method makes rigged voting impossible at least in part because they don't know which judges' scoring will count. Three of the nine are randomly eliminated.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 10:09 pm
Yay for Tanith and Ben! That girl needs to go to Hollywood or something, she is gorgeous! I was wondering how she felt looking up at the American flag, since she basically became an American citizen so that she could compete in the Olympics? Congrats, Kona, on your cousin Ben's success!
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 10:17 pm
I was holding my breath while they were skating. Not that I thought they couldn't / wouldn't -- but you never know ... as we saw last night. I truly enjoyed their program. I think more than any of the others. She is gorgeous. Her face huge on the screen while standing on the podium (and not dabbing at her eyes). Wow!
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Chaplin
Member
01-08-2006
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 10:25 pm
Whoami that death glare by the Italian woman continued on till tonight until they finished their final program. The programs tonight were very interesting although they ought to know no one can even come close to interpreting Bolero like Torvill and Dean so give it up already. Bolero is sooo overused as music goes and I am rather tired of the lacklustre attempts at it. Even the commentators were commenting on it and how they are tired of the attempts at it. The Romeo and Juliet pair were good. Their costumes were beautiful.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:02 pm
I think the Italian gal was a TEACHER in a previous life -- she's got "the look" mastered! LOL Much better night tonight -- and less heartwrenching to watch, thank goodness! CONGRATS on USA's silver! She is sooooo pretty, and I was thrilled to see them medal. Hope the Canadian team is able to come back for Worlds-- one of the commentators said their Somewhere in Time program is absolutely gorgeous -- and that music is fantastic!
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:24 pm
Ok, how the heck is the Italian couple supposed to get out there and dance together if they can't even look at each other without glaring?? Haven't seen them yet, but did just see the little spot on how frosty they have been with each other since last night. Very mature.
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Lumbele
Member
07-12-2002
| Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 7:32 am
Congrats, U.S. on a well-deserved silver!!! I just caught the last 4, but liked the U.S. team's free dance the best. Next time!
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 8:49 am
I'm watching my tape right now. My hubby commented "how can the Italian team skate as a couple with they cannot even look at eachother off the ice". Gotta love Dick Buttons "The Italian Ice is Cold". Did they actually have the balls to use some of Torvell & Deans Bolero choreography??? I thought I recognized more than one move. I know I am biased, but the expressions on Tanith & Ben's faces from the very beginning of the OD was priceless. I can't wait to see their FD (probably have to fast forward through an hour of other stuff). Thanks for all the cheers from TVCH - on to 2010!

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Jan
Moderator
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 9:47 am
Congrats to the USA for a well-deserved silver!!! PS Teach I saw an interview with the Canadian couple this AM. She is still on a crutch but thinks she will begin to skate soon in order to get ready for the Worlds. Since the Worlds are in Canada this year, they are really trying to be ready to perform there as they said their big regret was that no one got to see their free dance. BTW, the two were very loving and supportive of each other in the interview (are they a real life couple??) - there was certainly no visible animosity from either re the fall. They said they watched the fall in slo-mo and still can't work out how it happened or that it could happen (I hope it doesn't make them more afraid as they are known for their lifts) ETA: All hail to Norway see my Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 5:56 am post HERE for an explanation as to why  
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