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Adven
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02-06-2001

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Adven a private message Print Post    
I would never play with anyone's mind. The thought makes me convulse. In Canada - at least this area of it - you will have to wait at least 6 months for almost any major operation that is not immediately life threatening.

Emeraldfire
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03-05-2003

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Emeraldfire a private message Print Post    
With all of the pollutants found in our environment from our industries and from our lifestyles I feel that there is more than just tobacco smoke that can contribute to lung cancer.

Lancecrossfire
Animoderator

07-13-2000

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
Adven, is that because Canada has socialized medical system, so the types of procedures you are talking about are prioritized based on how threatening the condition is?

Or is there just so much needed to be done, and not enough doctors to perform them without regard to the medical program being socialized?

Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
This is depressing. I liked this thread better when we were talking about phone sex, sex on the third date, sending sexual signals, well you get the drift.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Lance, I think that it is a combination of both reasons. Also I suspect that the Canadian medical system may lead to a more encompassing treatment for more people as the decision to treat is not influenced by insurance (as I have heard it can be in the U.S.).

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
OMG! that's terrible. i thought Canada had a great health system. at least that's the propaganda i seem to remember hearing.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
my spanish teacher is from Cuba. she left there with her family in 1970. until coming to the US no one in her family had ever had cancer. she has lost both parents and 2 aunts to cancer since. she said that you just don't hear of folks getting cancer in Cuba. folks there do get diabetes, according to her, because they are big on sweets and lots of sugar. it is her opinion that the US has so much cancer because of pesticides which are virtually unheard of in Cuba.

Lawrie
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08-03-2002

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lawrie a private message Print Post    
I have personally known two people who died of lung cancer in their 60's and the cause was determined to be having worked around asbestos when they were young. In both cases this claim was supported by Workers' Compensation. One had never smoked and one had smoked for a short time in his 20's. (Both cases were in Canada if that has a bearing)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
The grim reality is that according to Actuarial tables, a smoker who is age 60 is more than twice as likely to die this year than a non-smoker who is 60. The odds are slightly worse for women than men.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I read somewhere on the net that Dana either talked about or thought or something about all the smoke she was around when singing in nightclubs.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Emerald, it is believed that Dana Reeve's lung cancer could have been the result of a combination of second-hand smoke (mostly from singing in clubs) and genetics (her mother died of ovarian cancer just a few weeks after Christopher's death).

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
Mamapors, Me tooo.

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Oh sex in the morning, sex in the evening....

Max
Moderator

08-12-2000

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Geez, I'm trying to fight off a head cold and some sex in the morning sure would help!

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
It does open up the sinuses. :-)

Jeep
Member

10-17-2001

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeep a private message Print Post    
Now that's better! Trouble is, I'm having sex about as often as I have a cigarette.....never! Just how long do I have to go before I'm considered a virgin again????

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I believe it's 6 months.

Native_texan
Member

08-24-2004

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
6 months? No problem.

All I know is it better be a helluva lot more enjoyable the second first time than it was the first first time.

Adven
Member

02-06-2001

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Adven a private message Print Post    
Cnd and Lance, Canada's health care IS great in that it is free, but a shortage of doctors and surgeons means a waiting list for almost every procedure. It's a major problem. The medical schools can't pump out doctors fast enough. Doctors are often ridiculously overworked and paid much less than they could make elsewhere. As a result, many leave the country, further compounding the problem.

Max
Moderator

08-12-2000

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
6 months?!? Geez, I'm a newborn!

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
The first time for me was cod awful <shudder>.

Jeep
Member

10-17-2001

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeep a private message Print Post    
Six months, huh??? Well, that makes me a virgin almost twice over!

And I'm with NT, it better be more enjoyable this first time that it was originally!

Cod awful, Mocha? I can relate.

Wendo
Member

08-07-2000

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wendo a private message Print Post    
I don't recall reading anywhere that Dana Reeve's lung cancer was a result of second hand cigarette smoke. She never smoked and other than singing in nightclubs MANY years ago, there was very little smoke she was exposed to.

Is it so hard to believe that she developed lung cancer without smoking or second hand smoke being a factor?

Considering the pollutants in our air, the pesticides on our food, and other things, who's to say what led to her lung cancer.

However, to state as fact that second hand smoke caused Dana Reeve's lung cancer is patently false.

Cndeariso
Member

06-28-2004

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
seems there should be a balance there somewhere. i'm lucky in that if my insurance, which is very good, won't pay or pays less than i would like for a procedure/treatment, i get the procedure/treatment anyway because i can afford it. i know that is rarely the case for others.

i don't think treatment of any kind should be denied by an insurance company. nor do i think anyone, regardless of income, should be denied the very best treatment available. i just can't imagine have the treatment available for free but having to wait months. that sounds rather extreme.

do i have an answer? no, or should i say, not one that that would satisfy everyone, much less be implemented in my lifetime in the US.

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
It took a few tries before I got it right.