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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 7:39 pm
Just thought it would be nice to start discussing specific events in their own threads.... First I'll point out that there is still a spoiler thread for events that haven't aired in the US yet, so just letting folks know I'm not advocating moving spoiler talk to this thread. I also thought I'd share the Results page for those who have a hard time finding such info. If you click on the link, it will go to a schedule page for figure skating, it will not go directly to results. You have to click on a link within the page I'm going to link to in order to find results. So once you go to the page I'm linking to, its your choice to spoil yourself or not. So that's why I'm posting it here, since I don't regard that as a spoiler. Figure Skating Schedule and Results page. Tonight will be airing the Pairs short program. Hope to come back and join in the discussion when its over! Happy viewing!
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 7:07 am
(Pulls up chair with carb-correct treats.)
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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 8:34 am
I can't get over how good the Chinese have become. They must have worked like crazy. It's between the Russians and the Chinese. As I said before, the scoring is hard to get used to. It feels so anti clamactic when just two numbers come up instead of the six from before. They say this system is better. Some of the lifts and throws seen last night were breath taking.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 8:49 am
I love pairs skating.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 10:58 am
Inoue and Baldwin did it -- throw triple axel! And it was perfect!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 11:18 am
I loved seeing that throw last night! Already some complaints that they should have gotten more points under the new system for it, but it was spectacular.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 11:44 am
Not only more points for that throw, but their spins were gorgeous. How did a team who messed up the side-by-side jump (she *touched* the ice) score higher than the US team????? 'squeek'
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 12:02 pm
The problem with Skating, Gymnastics and Boxing (I’m trying to think of others) is that they are judged sports and judging to some degree is subjective. I’m not sure how the new Olympic system will provide fairer results, now that the specific judges scores are completely hidden?
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Lumbele
Member
07-12-2002
| Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 12:19 pm
Jimmer, Paul Martini explained it like this: They start off with 12 judges; the computer randomly bumps off the scores of 3. Out of the remaining 9 the top and bottom markers are dropped and the remaining judges are what gets counted. There are set points for certain moves in the technical mark. Yes, the artistic marks are and will always be iffy. Still, Martini seems to think this system is better, albeit not perfect. Personally, I have become too cynical to trust the integrity of any of them, system or judge.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 12:29 pm
Thanks for the explanation. That is how I understand it works as well. My main discomfort comes from the individual judge’s scores being hidden. There is no accountability that I can see. I do respect Martini’s opinion though.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 1:23 pm
I think the fans at the venue should have Gizmos that they use to vote for who they think deserves which place.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 1:40 pm
The Chinese pairs were great! Even the one who touched the ice. That throw was terrific, the looks on their faces when they did it even better. I had to tivo the coverage to watch later with Kota so those were the only three pairs I really stopped and paid attenion to, knowing I'd be watching with her.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 10:19 am
I haven't been watching the Olympics, but I tuned in last night for a few minutes. Just in time to see that Chinese couple try (and fail) the quad throw. That woman was amazingly brave to continue the performance and skate as beautifully as she did--it was one of the ballsiest things I have seen. Made me miss large portions of the Daily Show, even. I didn't see the rest of the pairs, so I don't really know how they compared [ha! now i sound like people who say who should win an Oscar when they've only seen one or two nominated films!], but I was happy to see them win the silver.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 6:56 pm
The more amazing thing to me was that when the Chinese lady said afterwards that she was crying because she felt like she could have done better!!! (and then I was appalled at the Russian gold medalist lady's response that was snarky and NOT sportsmanslike at all).
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 7:00 pm
I didn't think the Russian skaters were any better than the Chinese skaters. Not sure that they should have won the Gold. Perhaps they got the Gold because of the horrible fall that happened last year?
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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 8:31 am
The men;s short programme was good last night. I was constantly switching from CBC to NBC to catch eveything. Looks like Plushenko has it with a score of 90. Weir is second right now. The Canadian guys were ok and I dont think anyone really thought they would do much--except Emmanual Sandhu, who could have, but didnt. I really found the French competitor's programme the most inventive and fun--007James Bond--and loved his costume too. Reminds me of the days of Phillipe Candellaro's perfomances.
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 8:59 am
Cablejockey...I had that very same thought regarding the French Skater. I thought "Phillipe Candelaro would be proud!" I thought the skater who did techno program was very limiting and constraining...that guy needs to re-think that one. Also, I couldn't imagine having to listen to that monotonous music every day.
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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 10:16 am
Oh the music some of them use is so boring or bad! I find myself asking what were they thinking! The Russians generally use staid classical type music, but I remember when Viktor Pretrenko burst out with some rock and roll stuff during the exhibition performances they do just before the olympics end, back in the 90s--I was so shocked that he had such a fun side. I guess the judges like more serious music.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 10:49 am
I felt like I was watching interpretive dance, some of the programs were so weird. Does anyone have any idea what the highest score you can get for each of areas, technical and artistic (or whatever they are calling it). I can't figure out this scoring system at all, so I feel like I don't know what is going on.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 9:53 pm
I don't think there IS a "highest" score -- since points are awarded on the tricks accomplished, it's limitless (sorta'). It just depends on what tricks the skater lands and if they ever fall or get automatic deductions. That 90 was HUGE -- but it only takes one missed quad or a singled anything and suddenly scores plummet. It should make for a very exciting night tomorrow night!
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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 7:27 pm
is anyone watching the men's figure skating tonite? Its on CBC right now.
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Chaplin
Member
01-08-2006
| Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 8:48 pm
Just watched it. We won a medal. Yay! Actually we got 4 medals today!
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Skootz
Member
07-23-2003
| Friday, February 17, 2006 - 4:58 am
I caught the final flight of skaters when I got home this afternoon around 4:20. I was able to catch the other Canadian skaters last night. How wonderful for Buttle to win a bronze. For this being the Olympics, I am very surprised at the falls that took place in the short and long programs. I don't remember the men being this bad (sorry don't know what other word to use at this) and only a few skaters really rising to the occasion. (JMHO)
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, February 17, 2006 - 5:39 am
I saw most of the major performances. Plushenko's a great champion and his performance was far superior to everyone else's, but I wish the guy had a little more grace and/or pizzaz. Canada's skaters were marvelous and absolutely my favorites! Their programs were creative and flowing. The skaters themselves were graceful and musical. I'm really looking forward to their next years in competition, you have some serious talent there. Congratulations on winning the bronze; I see gold and silver in your very near future.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Friday, February 17, 2006 - 6:28 am
I agree with what the NBC commentators said about Plushenko -- technically he certainly was the best, but there was NO "program". Artistically it was dull. Jumps, arm movements, jumps, arm movements. As I sit there watching all the skaters, I wonder why / when all the arm flailing started? Is it necessary? Maybe some how when school figures stopped being required? I don't enjoy all the flailing and the "over the top" costumes. Ninety-nine percent of the time if the program is supposed to tell a story, I don't see it. Just skate to the music. I was happy to see Buttle get bronze, but...that meant Evan Lysacek came in fourth, just missing a medal. He's from Naperville, IL -- nearby suburb. And the Russian pair who won gold train at a nearby arena.
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