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Cndeariso
Member
06-28-2004
| Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 7:52 pm
thank you, vacanick. so sorry about your mom. i'm very worried about my mom, my brother & myself when it comes to secondhand smoke and my brother again because he smokes. i lived at home until i was 18 & was married to a smoker until i was 30. so i had 30 years of daily secondhand smoke. i have been out of that environment for 16 years now. i have heard RUMORS that your chances for getting lung cancer after you stop smoking or being around secondhand smoke constantly do not decrease until after 15 years. hopefully, there is some scientific data to support that and now my changes have started to decline.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 7:54 pm
I wish that we didn't have deaths due to second hand smoke because we have helped people overcome habits that are destructive to themselves and to other people. In the meantime, I agree such research is necessary. For those who have lost a loved one to any kind of cancer, whether they were smokers or not, I have great sympathy. They were your loved ones and they are gone, and that is all that matters.
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 8:04 pm
Without generalizing, or saying ALL doctors, I suspect that some doctors do not "know for sure" the cause of the cancer, but rather "assume". We had a beloved citizen of our town die of lung cancer. She had been being treated for quite some time with various drugs and anti-biotics for her cough until it was finally diagnosed. This was in January and she was told that she would be lucky if she lived long enough to see her daughter graduate at the end of May. She missed it by 2 weeks. She was a non-smoker. I have very little faith in a medical system that can't diagnose a problem, but after the fact can easily determine the cause. I truly don't think they can, nor do they care to. It takes time and money and no one is going to pay for it at that point. Just my experience.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 8:15 pm
Peter Jennings had quit smoking 20 years before his diagnosis. He did say that he smoked during the aftermath of 9/11.
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Newman
Member
09-25-2004
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 6:36 am
I just hope Dana didn't die in vain. I feel so sorry for her situation. She devoted her life to her husband, trying to take care of him, raise awareness, selfless and so forth. Then he died. Finally, she gets over grieving and can get on with her life and is struck down so early from second hand smoke! I feel sorry for the 13 year old son. From an empathy point of view, it seems so sad. Can't recall who posted that she was glad to be going back to California, after spending time in Colorado Springs...but I want Dana's death to be a springboard, to prevent others. Why do we have smoking in restaurants and public buildings anyway? The link from smoking to cancer is clear, isn't it. Now isn't it even more clear?! If you HAVE TO SMOKE then go outside or smoke in your car or in your own personal space. Don't kill innocents. (OK, I feel a little better, not much...)
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Ginger1218
Member
08-31-2001
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 8:29 am
I don't think people say that smoker's "deserve" lung cancer, but really feel that it is not a surprise that they have lung cancer, and perhaps it could have been prevented. My cousin has lung cancer, and was a heavy heavy smoker until her diagnosis. I never once thought she deserved it, that is a cruel thing to think of anyone, but I was definitely not at all surprised and probably knew it was going to happen (knowing her family history) (thankfully not my side of the family)
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 8:47 am
When I travel to other states (I live in California.) I stress over having to eat out in restaurants where smoking is allowed in part or all of the building. I am on my way to Arizona for a week, and I love it there, except when I go out to eat. Smoking and non-smoking areas separated by nothing other than an imaginary line. I just wonder why it allowed in some states and not others. This would seem to me to be a national issue, not a states right issue.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:02 am
In Texas, it is city-by-city. Smoking is not allowed in restaurants or bars whose food sales are a certain percentage within the Dallas city limits. But, in the town where I live, it is allowed. When I was in Steamboat Springs, Colorado a few summers ago with my parents and son, because of the fire risk caused by the drought (there was smoke in the sky somewhere at all times all week), smoking was not allowed outdoors anywhere.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:05 am
Although I don't smoke I'm not a fanatic about non-smoking. There are many people that I like that smoke and I am able to spend time with them and I don't mind it. However, I don't see how a non-smoker could date a smoker but I guess you get used to it if the other aspects of the person are attractive enough to you. I do try to avoid second hand smoke where possible and I agree that it's so ridiculous especially in small restaurants where the tables are close together.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:18 am
A non-smoker can date a smoker easily cuz they don't smoke around you. They smoke outside, brush teeth or use gum and listerine before kissing you and other things.
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Jeep
Member
10-17-2001
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:22 am
A few archives back, we talked about "deal busters" in regards to relationships and that you had to decide what those deal busters were for yourself. Well, smoking would be one for me. Not only is smoking unhealthy, but I just don't want to smell like I stood next to a burning pile of brush all day. And neither do I want my home to smell like that. It just stinks. The thought of kissing a smoker turns me right off and there really wouldn't be any sex on the third date! LOL That is if I even got to the third date. Thank goodness there is no smoking in the restaurants and offices here. I can eat in peace and I frequent many places I never went before because they allowed smoking. Bars and tavern are exempt, so you can still see the nekkid ladies and smoke a cig! LOL I better also say that I do not know who on this board smokes and who doesn't, so my opinions are not directed at anyone. Just my thoughts.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:26 am
I couldn't date a smoker. I don't know if it's because I'm a ex-smoker or what, but my sense of smell has become very sensitive when it comes to smoking. I have actually gagged a few times when passing people that are or have been smoking. I refuse to get into my niece's car it reeks. When the ex finally let me have Travis' clothes back from when Travis was living with him, I opened the suitcase and immediately had to take it outside. It all went straight into the washer. At the same time, it also hit me full force with what both of us had been doing to our son and I will never forgive myself for that. ETA: Mocha, they can brush, chew and gargle all they want, but their clothes and vehicles and homes are still going to smell of tobacco.
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Adven
Member
02-06-2001
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:30 am
In Canada, the waiting list for receiving almost any major operation or procedure is so long that many doctors are recommending that smokers, alcoholics and the obese stay at the end of the list or be refused treatment altogether for any ailment directly related to their lifestyle.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:31 am
Possibly but being a non-smoker, dating a smoker doesn't bother me. Course some of my bestest friends smoke and I always end up in the smoking car lol. I just crack a window and they don't blow the smoke in my face.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:35 am
So, let's not bother with research and let's refuse medical treatment to anyone that does not live a totally healthy lifestyle. What a good way to reduce the population! Shouldn't we add criminals to the list also?
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:41 am
Of course with what happened with Dana Reeves they're probably killing me....
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Emeraldfire
Member
03-05-2003
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:46 am
So was that the official diagnosis that Dana Reeves died from second hand smoke?
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Holly
Member
06-19-2005
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:52 am
Oh for goodness sake! Has that ever been the official diagnosis for anyone?
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Kearie
Member
07-21-2005
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:59 am
I don't think it is an offical diagnosis. I think it can be a "contributing factor"
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Emeraldfire
Member
03-05-2003
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:01 am
No, but Newman made such a strong declaration that Dana Reeves' life was "struck down so early because of second hand smoke" that I figured that he must of heard an official statement. It seems to make the statement that if you get lung cancer and you don't smoke that it must come from second hand smoke. To make that kind of general assumption does not seem logical to me.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:03 am
Seems logical to me if you're not a smoker.
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Cndeariso
Member
06-28-2004
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:04 am
you have a waiting list for surgery or other medical procedure in Canada? i guess i am naive or adven is playing with my mind. other than waiting for a kidney, heart, lung, etc. i've never heard of a waiting list. <waves to kearie>
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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:04 am
A diagnosis relates to a medical condition, not the factors that lead to that condition.
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Kearie
Member
07-21-2005
| Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:07 am
<waving to Chessy> Yeah, what Lance said.
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