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Jmm
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08-16-2002

Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 9:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jmm a private message Print Post    
Newman, No matter what you decide to say - remember it is Ho-Ho-Ho (only one could get you in a lot of trouble).

Landi
Member

07-29-2002

Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 9:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landi a private message Print Post    
newman, that's it! buy a PT cruiser! cuz my PT cruiser club is like max's. i have made the best friends through it!

above was just a joke. the big thing is finding something that you enjoy. you sure sound like you have friends here! and count me as one!


Max
Moderator

08-12-2000

Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 11:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Newman, the thing is that the car club isn't really about the cars, it's about making friends, having fun, and creating great memories. Heck, that's even in our bylaws! :-) The PT Cruiser is, as I always say, a social life on wheels and it just happens to be the common denominator that brought all of us together. Landi is right, PT folks are THE BEST! :-)

Oh, and as for what to say to folks (Merry Christmas, Happy HOlidays, whatever), say what makes you feel comfortable. Say it with a smile and conviction. If they are rude enough to give you any lip, then that's THEIR baggage, not yours. If someone says, "Thanks, but I'm Jewish," then smile and say, "Okay, then, Happy Hanukkah!" If they say, "Bah Humbug!" then smile and say, "Then may you have the best Bah Humbug ever!" As long as you're doing what YOU feel is right and not shoving anything down anyone else's throat, then the rest is THEIR baggage, not yours.

At least that's my philosophy on the whole thing. The older I get, the less I worry about how others react to my good intentions.

Of course, knowing the Post Office, they probably have some rule about what you are and are not allowed to say. But my local post office was decked out in Christmas decor the day after Halloween, so it would seem they've already chosen to take the "don't worry, be happy" approach to the holidays. :-)

Lancecrossfire
Animoderator

07-13-2000

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 12:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
Newman, I don't remember them--I write them down as I come across them.

For what it's worth Newman, we can't fix you, or anyone else for that matter. We can only work on ourselves.

Sometimes I think people offer advice to others because it's easier to work on someone besides yourself. Sometimes I think it's because they have an idea for themselves and want to see how it sounds and works for someone else.

I like being alone myself. It has it's advantages and disadvantages, just like everything else. I like being with someone too.

I agree Newman, an electronic bar, and we are all both the customer and the bar tender at the same time. We all tell a story, and yet we all listen.

In order to learn, a person must listen--even when they are doing the talking. Maybe especially when they are doing the talking--haha.

Secretsmile
Member

08-19-2002

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 5:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Secretsmile a private message Print Post    
I don't agree with you on this one Lance. In my opinion people that posted here didn't offer advice because it was easier for them to fix someone else rather than themselves but because in his initial post Newman seemed to be reaching out from a depressive state and asked for suggestions. This is a caring board, the post touched a place in each of these posters that they couldn't ignore.

Newman, I don't doubt that your thought process has moved on since that first post and I for one am pleased, but rather than question why members are responding, perhaps you ought to question if you are being honest with yourself about what drove your need to connect in this way.

I know that I can't stop myself from checking this thread several times a day. I was concerned and found myself thinking about you frequently since it was started.

Rather than question why everyone is offering you suggestions to get over this slump, maybe you should question why every suggestion is met by a negative response from you.

Again, the members of TVCH are generous people with huge hearts and will do anything within their power to help someone who has need. Obviously they responded to your perceived need as they always do, with an outpouring of concern and positive ideas.

Newman
Member

09-25-2004

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 7:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Newman a private message Print Post    
Mocha, was that a Yo, or a Ho? I do agree with Jmm, that I must triple the ho lest I get in trouble. My usual philosophy is to counterpunch. I respond with whatever THEY say. I don't try to get political on the route, not wanting to offend the righties, and not really having any time for fun political reparte.

Secret and Lance, I agree with both of you, even though you may be saying opposite things. People generally want to help others. It's one of the best qualities about people. But I agree with Lance on this. You have to help yourself. Can anyone really remember ONE PIECE OF ADVICE anyone ever gave them, your Mom, your Dad, your best friend, that you actually used and it changed your life? I can't.

I agree with Lance in that it's so much easier to fix someone else, than yourself. Or it's more fun. Or obvious what to do. Or I don't want to face my demons I'd rather tell X what to do. That sort of thing.

Besides being an electronic bar I view this as interactive journal writing. We're writing down our thoughts and feelings. Others see them and respond. Maybe some good can come from it.

I connect with a lot of what Lance says. I think I've been out of balance, too much talking, not enough listening. Awareness is the first step...

Landi and Max, I drive a Corolla, but am due for a new car, but I've always heard the PT Cruiser was underpowered, which is a detriment if I go to the mountains here in Colorado, which I rarely do. What kind of mileage does the PT get in the city? I'm getting roughly 30+ with the Toyota.


Schoolmarm
Member

02-18-2001

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Schoolmarm a private message Print Post    
Well, Newman...why don't you make it a "Yo Ho Ho"! Maybe someone will give you a bottle of rum.

I also have an occupation that makes Christmas MUCH more work. I have finally finished all of the performances as of yesterday. That is, until the onslaught of Christmas Eve and Christmas services. I'm sure that I will get called at the last minute to "oh, can you just play some Christmas music for blah, blah, blah?"

This, too, shall pass!

On second thought....I'll split that bottle o'rum with ya!

Landi
Member

07-29-2002

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landi a private message Print Post    
underpowered? i got 220HP before i put the k&n air thingie in it. and tell that it is underpowered to the people who did "cruise the rockies" this year. there is a big PT club in Longmont. you will get less gas mileage with the cruiser compared to the toyota. mid-20's usually.

again, it's not the car, as it is the people.


Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
.."ONE PIECE OF ADVICE anyone ever gave them, your Mom, your Dad, your best friend, that you actually used and it changed your life?"

yep, many

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Nah just a simple Yo lol. Get a good truck.

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Newman, I don't see you much in the other threads (besides News & Views, I mean)--the lighter ones, for instance. Do you lurk or post in any others?

Guess you'd say this next part falls under 'fixing you,' but that's not really my intention. (Btw, I thought Secret was on the button.) Just read the following as an observation:

To be honest, (hope you don't get offended), you are not Mr. Warmth--more like Mr. Sour. It's hard to get close to you--even with the safe distance provided by the Net. Kinda brittle. (This is NOT an attack on your personality.) Now I think the mix of personalities is more interesting than if everyone were a Miss or Mr. Sunshine.

Frankly, sometimes even a 'rude' persona is refreshing and welcome (thinking of Adven in particular), but that's because his comments are witty and delivered to evoke a laugh.

Wit is something you either have or don't have. A familial trait--tied with intelligence, I believe. But a sense of humor is something everyone can polish. I, myself, am the product of rather humorless parents. Not that they didn't/don't laugh. They simply are terrible at making little jokes--that makes most conversation a little more interesting. My sister is funny, though. What gives? And I am lucky to live with a man who comes from a family of wonderful wits and kidders--and that has helped me develop my sense of humor, which I think is doing okay. (Guess the Effexor helps, too!)

Ever consider stand-up comedian lessons?

Max
Moderator

08-12-2000

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Newman, there are many, many pieces of advice I've been given over the years that have changed my life and that I remember and often quote to others. Some from my dad (not so much mom, but that's a whole other story), some from bosses/mentors, some from friends. Sometimes that advice wasn't well received at the time, but was remembered later and helped a lot. Heck, if I never listened to advice at all, I wouldn't have learned much in this life. :-) Of course, there's been lots of advice that I listened to and dismissed because it didn't ring true for me, too. :-)

As for the power of the PT Cruiser, it depends. If you get a base model, you're looking at about 150HP. It cruises along at highway speeds just fine, but takes a bit of patience to get there. Then you have two other choices, a 180HP turbo or a 220HP turbo. Landi and I both have the high-output, 220HP model. Let me tell you, it is NOT underpowered. It's still a straight 4-cylinder motor, but it's got oomph. When I first got mine, I delighted in hopping off stop lights with a pretty heavy foot. Raced a Camaro at one point and kept up with him quite nicely -- he looked surprised. :-)

However, if fuel economy is a big issue for you, the PT isn't the best choice. The turbo will get between 16-20 MPG in the city, depending on your driving habits, and takes premium gas. Highway mileage is better -- I've gotten as high as 30 MPG on long freeway cruises.

For me, the gas mileage is less important than the other things the car brings -- unique style, lots of load capacity (I took the back seats out of mine and put in a wood deck so I use it like a panel van for my business), comfort, and of course, that social life I mentioned.

Your mileage, of course, may vary. :-)

Attitude is everything in life. You can view the world through clear, rose-colored, or dark glasses -- the world is the same in every case, but what you see may be very different. :-) Is your glass half empty or half full? Is there a glass at all?

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 10:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Btw, I love the electronic bar metaphor!

Mameblanche
Member

04-13-2005

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Incoming 'nose-tweak' alert:

Newman says: 'Can anyone really remember ONE PIECE OF ADVICE anyone ever gave them, your Mom, your Dad, your best friend, that you actually used and it changed your life? I can't.'

Hmmm a rather pessimistic view, eh?

But then he says: 'We're writing down our thoughts and feelings. Others see them and respond. Maybe some good can come from it.'

Did I sniff the aroma of optimism emanating from our friend here?

(Emphasis is mine/MB)

Jimmer
Member

08-30-2000

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I’ve been following this thread and have found it to be a fascinating mixture of intelligent thought and insight, amusing opinions and good humor.

I’ll probably want to add more at some point (I can’t resist a good discussion), but for the moment, let me say that I find it amusing that so much of the thread is still about “fixing” Newman, despite his suggestion that we move away from that direction.

The good thing about it is that people find it interesting and care about it. But we are kind of like a dog with a bone.

Having said that, I love this thread and hope it continues (the thread – not necessarily the fixing Newman part).

Thanks for starting an interesting discussion Newman!

Newman
Member

09-25-2004

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Newman a private message Print Post    
My ADVICE to everyone is to stop trying to fix Newman. Let's see if people take my advice.

Pamy, ok, then give me the very best example of advice your parents gave you.

Max, you too say you got good advice from Dad. Let's hear the best one. And it better not be the part about wearing clean underwear everyday in case you get into an accident!

Herckle, I am not a lurker. I enjoy participating. Are there some good sights I may be missing that may change my life? Is there one about "volunteering?" <groan>

Mr. Sour? Moi? Maybe I'm just too honest for some. Don't sugar coat anything. I like the truth. Don't like spin.

School, yo ho ho was an amusing compromise. I chuckled.

I think there are two types of people on the internet and on this site. One is the type who sits behind a computer all day, because of work, probably. The other is like me. I'm away from it most hours of the day, delivering mail. When I come home or in the morning is when I go to the computer for fun, recreation, and electronic bar interacting.

My type of internet user is at a great disadvantage. I don't get to stay current with every post, every hour or so. It requires a lot of reading first before responding, not immediate reacting to what someone said.


Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Most days I wish my family would leave me be. I wish I was a better disciplinarian(sp) with the kids so that they would actually do what I ask them to do when I ask it. I wish someone would do something with this house of mine. Most days I look around, shake my head, and hide in my bedroom. If I had money I'd pay someone to take all the junk out of my basement and box up the things that I want to keep. I have this huge urge to declutter and get rid of everything so I can start over with a clean slate. But then the task is just so overwelming that I'm back to hiding in my room lol.

I need a cleansing of the mental and physical.

Max
Moderator

08-12-2000

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 11:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
"Use the right tool for the right job." THis is advice from dad that has always been useful no matter what kind of job is being tackled. :-)

Newman, You say you don't want us to "fix" you. Honey, ain't nobody can do that except yourself. You have asked questions and made statements, which we have been responding to. If you choose to view that as us trying to "fix" you, that's your stuff, not ours. Do you really want to ask us questions and seek our opinions on things and expect us not to say anything?

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Best pieces of advice I ever got were actually adages, I guess:


You don't get something for nothing.

Genius is 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration.

Follow the golden rule. Treat others as you would like to be treated.



Don't think this one is an adage, but a good one, nonetheless:

Trust you instincts.

Ophiliasgrandma
Member

09-04-2001

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I like my Father's advice the best...'Love one another'.

Merrysea
Member

08-13-2004

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I think the best advice I've gotten comes from a website, flylady.net. On the surface, it's about housecleaning, but really, it's so much more! She talks about FLYing, Finally Loving Yourself, and blessing your home (instead of cleaning). She also says not to keep things that you don't love just because someone gave them to you. So I no longer have a lot of junk that I don't have room for, and what I do have around is either useful or makes me smile. My life is more peaceful, and I find myself doing things for my kids that they could (and probably should) do for themselves, but I really feel that I'm blessing them, not being a martyr, and it makes us all happy.

Max
Moderator

08-12-2000

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Best advice ever from a boss: Pick your battles. You only have so many silver bullets and you have no idea how many werewolves are going to come out of the woods, so before you shoot, make sure you've got a target that counts.

Best advice from a friend: Everything is. It's up to you to assign a value to it -- good, bad, indifferent -- or just accept that it is.

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
I like both of those a lot, Max!

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Newman...if I had to pick just one it would be...they taught me to love myself and to love others more

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
also Suze Orman gave me advice and it changed my life financially