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The TVClubHouse: General Discussions ARCHIVES: 2005 Dec. ~ 2006 Feb.: Free Expression: Fact or Crap?? (ARCHIVES): Archive through February 28, 2006 users admin

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Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 5:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
1. crap water makes dynamite explode.
2. fact definitely

Jagger
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08-07-2002

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 6:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jagger a private message Print Post    
Fact
Fact

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 6:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Double crap.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 6:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Hehehe... Landi, I think I said I was gonna make y'all sit and watch the entire Wizard of Oz. I never said *I* would watch it with you!!! <snicker>

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I have no idea for #1, so I'll say what Twigs says: CRAP.

For #2, most definitely, CRAP!

Heyltslori
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09-15-2001

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 6:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heyltslori a private message Print Post    
Crap and Crap

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Fact
Crap

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 9:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Fact
Crap

...but I did have it all figured out before I saw Maris' answer. See, we both are super intelligent.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I have no clue on either but, I have to think it is her real name, I mean who could make that up a name of sojourner truth.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginger1218 a private message Print Post    
1. Crappola
2. More Crappola

Chaplin
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01-08-2006

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 1:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chaplin a private message Print Post    
1. Crap
2. Crap

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 2:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
1. fact. to make dynamite, you need nitroglycerin (and a binder--sawdust was used originally). Nitroglycerin is made with a few chemicals--one of which is nitric acid. Nitric acid solution has water in it. Pure nitric acid is as unstable a compound as nitroglycerin.

2. crap

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 5:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
1. Fact
2. Crap

Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
Oh Lance sounds really smart about this dynamite thing, so FACT.

And I agree with Maris. Who would change their name to Sojourner Truth, so CRAP.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Uh, I think Sojourner Truth did take that name .. wasn't what she was born with.

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
Crap x 2!

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
1. i need to know if we are talking about the drink, the illegal drug or the stuff used to blast through rocks. so, let's take a wild guess and say we are talking about the explosive stuff that is used in mining. that would make this answer crap.

2. i do believe this person made up this name though i have no idea who they are. but, i don't think they would have taken their birth name to do it. so, we have crap again.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
1. Crap - I've watched Lost :-)
2. Crap - or I feel very very sorry for the guy/girl.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 8:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
1. I'm gonna follow Lance cuz him and Tess are science smarties and helped me through a science class (unless he's trying to trick us, ack!) Fact.

2. Crap.

Craven
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05-23-2004

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 9:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Craven a private message Print Post    
1. Crap
2. Crap

C3H5(ONO2)3

Craven


Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 9:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
Craven, the (ONO2)3 is actually (NO3)3 based on the structure--it is 3 nitrate groups as opposed to 3 nitrite groups with 3 oxygen groups attached to the nitrite groups.

There is a lot of energy is nitrate groups. Virtually all explosives have nitrate groups as part of their structure.

The rest of the formula you have is correct--it is a propane molecule (C3H8) with 3 of the 8 hydrogens replaced by 3 nitrate groups.

trinitrotoluene (TNT) is a toluene molecule that has had three nitrate groups added.

Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 9:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
Wow I have no idea what Lance is talking about but I am so glad I said FACT. (just one small question---what about the H2O????)

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Monday, February 27, 2006 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
I said fact about that too. :-) Working with various explosives over the years has given me the chance to learn a little about a few of them. Including how they are made. Now if Max uses a reference that talks about making dynamite FROM nitroglycerin, then it's crap. BUt if she uses a reference that includes the making of nitroglycerin before the dynamite is made, then it's fact. (the water part that is)

Max
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08-12-2000

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 12:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Hello, you FoCers! Just finished transcribing some really boring tape and came here to find all this science talk about explosives! ACK! Just remember, I don't vouch for any of this stuff, I just type what the Calendar Cowpokes print on their pages. :-)

Okay, so we have two questions in play:

  1. Is water one of the ingredients needed to make dynamite?
  2. Was civil rights activist Sojourner Truth's real name Sonja van Troot?


Here's how you voted:
1 Fact 7
Crap 13
2 Fact 2
Crap 18


Okay, I don't begin to understand the science stuff that Lance and Craven posted, so let's just get right to the answers the Calendar Crew provide:

They're both CRAP!
  1. "Discovered by Alfred B. Nobel in 1866, dynamite is made from nitroglycerin and an inert, porous filler such as wood pulp, sawdust, or another absorbent material. The mass is then pressed in cylindrical forms and wrapped in paper or plastic. The charge is set off with a detonator." boom
  2. "Isabella Baumfree was born into slavery in 1797, one of 13 children in Ulster County, New York. In 1827, she was freed under the New York Anti-Slavery Act. In 1843, after being educated by Quakers, Isabella had a spiritual revelation and changed her name to Sojourner Truth. She traveled the country, tirelessly advocating the abolition of slavery. Even after the Civil War, she continued to act as the nation's conscience, demanding land for black veterans and rights for women."

truth

Okay, it's late and I'm tired and I have to go have blood drawn in the morning before I can eat anything, so I'm forging ahead with the new question!

John Lennon's first girlfriend was named Thelma Pickles.

FACT or CRAP? You decide!


Let me just add that there has been an awful lot of crap lately! I think I need a new set of hip waders!!! :-)


Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 1:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
That sounds enough like crap that I'm going to say Fact.