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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, January 23, 2006 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It’s a terrible problem. What happened to Bud was just awful.

I met a nice lady the other day at the Vets. She was there with her Pit Bull. They are massive dogs but she insisted that he was well trained and gentle. He certainly was friendly with me.

I agree with you that the one thing that scares me about this breed (aside from a few crazy / incompetent owners) is that they seem to “snap” for no apparent reason. You hear about dogs that are generally nice, well behaved and loving, suddenly going crazy. That alone might be a valid reason for banning the breed altogether.

I do wish that they would make the owners accountable for their dogs. It is an absolute disgrace. That dog that attacked Bud is a weapon that was being wielded by the owners.

I’m sure glad to hear that Bud is feeling better and that the children have been able to handle the situation.

Secretsmile
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08-19-2002

Monday, January 23, 2006 - 7:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Secretsmile a private message Print Post    
It seems to me that pit bulls probably do have a bum rap. I'm sure that there are many responsible breeders out there, that are careful to not encourage negative personality traits in their dogs. It wouldn't surprise me at all that Jimmer met a woman who purchased one of those and who as a responsible owner trained her dog.

Aggressive breeds don't have to be dangerous, that's the saddest part of it. It saddens me to know that the animal will be put down when it's the owner and breeder who are at fault.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Monday, January 23, 2006 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Yep, but it's the owners who make a difference between good dogs and mean dogs. Sis and bils oldest pup (14 years old,) Athena, is half pitt. She's the biggest sweetheart ever and makes Harvey looks tough, which is hard since he's so lazy about the only thing he barks at is the wind or some birds, lol. One of my favorite pictures of my oldest niece was from when she was maybe 2. Her and Athena were sound asleep on the floor, curled up together, and niece had an arm thrown over the dog and Athena had a leg thrown over her. She's always been a cuddly kid dog, letting them lay all over her and sticking by their sides without even a growl. She's a long suffering pup, lol, favorite playmate of the kids cuz she's just big enough for them to climb all over and she loves it. But, she was also raised as part of the family and spoiled rotten.

Bud's tube removal has been postponed til tomorrow. Sis has been up since about 4am sick and said she just couldn't handle getting him in to the vet.

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Monday, January 23, 2006 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
I am just reading this account of Bud's attack to DH. He flipped out and said someone should have taken a gun and shot the dog. (Yeah..right) But this did remind me of a story about my dad.

My dad trained hunting dogs. He and my mom were in a campground down in Arizona. All dogs to be kept on a leash but one guy ignored the signs. His dog kept coming over and jumping on dad's leashed dog and my dad complained to the owner who thought the whole thing was funny. Next time the dog came over in dad's campsite and jumped his dog, my dad took out his knife and killed the dog. Shoved the knife right in his heart and the dog fell over dead. My mom was horrified and the dead dog's owner was hysterical...but my dad was legally right.

Was he morally right? I was always so squeamish about this episode but when I read about Bud I do believe I could have taken a knife and done the same thing to the pit bull.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Monday a woman took her 11 month old granddaughter to a friends house in Palmdale (neighboring city to us) they'd both been to previously. The friends pitt bull attacked the baby, causing serious injuries to her face, head and neck (paramdics said critical injuries.) Police and animal control officers euthanized the pitt right there while the little girl was helicoptered to, I believe, childrens hospital for surgeries. I am just sick, knowing what Bud looked like I can only imagine what this poor child and her family must be going through.

Sis took Bud in to have his tubes removed today. While there, the vet told her he'd just recieved word that animal control and the sheriffs station has declared zero tolerance against pitt bulls. They said Buds attack started a chain of attacks...3 in 7 days and if any local vets see pets for pitt bull attacks they are to file a report (thats usual though in any attacks) and send the reports riht in for animal control and sheriffs to deal with it. Vet said from the sound of it they're not even going to try to catch a pitt that's attacked someone or another pet, but much like with the attack on the little girl, put the animal down then and there.

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 2:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calamity a private message Print Post    
Wargod: I'm just shaking, your sad story upset and angered me so much. I'm so sorry. I want to say more about that horrible man but am afraid I'll get too emotional. My sympathies to your family and bless that daughter of yours for her empathy and sense of justice! Bud will be in my thoughts and prayers. May his body & spirit both heal quickly and completely.

Bud

Secretsmile
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08-19-2002

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 4:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Secretsmile a private message Print Post    
OK, here it is HELP!!!! LOL, I've been training Riley to some simple commands and one trick. He loves it, but I think you all remember he really loves his biscuits. For two days now, he comes over next to our feet, sits, then stands up and tries to twirl in a circle (that's the trick I'm trying to teach him) just for treats.

I'm telling ya he's like a kid that's addicted to candy, he'll do anything to get more.

Any one else have this problem? Do they stop doing the tricks if they find out they don't get treats every time?

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 8:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
LOL SS, did your kids ever stop asking for treats???? My kidlets walk in the door asking what they can have, lol. Can't help you beyond that though because Harvey does tricks when he wants and doesn't really care for the treats.

Dakota's a very right/wrong kind of girl. Not for little, kid stuff, but big things she has very definite ideas about which is which. If someone does wrong, she gets offended.

I talked to sis awhile ago and things are looking up. She said Bud's much happier with the tubes out and seemed to have perked up just with that much done. Even better, with the tubes out the girls are not as timid as they were around him. Youngest niece was still a little reluctant around him for a few hours, then when sis went to check on her she was sitting on the floor playing leaned up against him, which has been a typical position for them since he moved in with them.

Jagger
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08-07-2002

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 4:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jagger a private message Print Post    
That is great news War, hopefully Bud will have a complete recovery and be back to his old self in no time.

SS your dog sounds like mine, he'll do anything for a treat, even learned to spell. When the dog hears the word treat or ear he goes balistic. So I started to spell it when I'd ask my roommate when the last time the dogs had a treat or ear, well it didn't take long for Jagger to catch on to the spelling.

Jagger does a variety of the basic tricks, he'll beg, up and beg, turn in circles, roll over, play dead, and he use to jump through things but not anymore, and yes he does expect that treat when he is finished. But the good thing is I can usually get several tricks out of him before he wants his treat.

After awhile Riley will probably realize that he doesn't get the treat just for doing the trick, he'll realize he just gets them when he is asked to do the trick.

Listening to your stories SS makes me want another puppy so bad, but I know better, maybe some day.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 6:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That is wonderful news about Bud. It's great that he's getting better and the kids are getting comfortable with him again.

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calamity a private message Print Post    
Such good news about Bud!

Having the people he loves around him is going to help Bud so much. I tell you, when you consider how devoted most doggies are, it really makes you think about what they could teach us about love and compassion!

Secretsmile
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08-19-2002

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 4:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Secretsmile a private message Print Post    
Riley, after his bath. He's showing you "sit". His tear stains are improving. I tried to get a picture of the "dance" but I was alone and couldn't hold the treat and the camera.


Secretsmile
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08-19-2002

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 4:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Secretsmile a private message Print Post    
Nabbed a picture of "dance" my timing was off and it shows him getting his treat, but you get the idea. It's in my folder.

Coco
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 8:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Coco a private message Print Post    
He's just too cute!! Thanks for sharing.

Saxywildcat
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05-30-2005

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 8:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saxywildcat a private message Print Post    
I swear, that dog is sooooooooooo freaking adorable! I just wanna cuddle him to pieces!!

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 11:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Great news about Bud and Riley is just adorable, SS!! When Kellie was younger, I can remember her getting excited about something and wanting it sooooo much that she'd go through just about her whole routine of tricks super fast trying to hit the "right one" so she'd get something. LOL It was usually something she wasn't supposed to have like people food, but then again, sometimes she just couldn't wait for the command and just started on her own. Now she just barks and wants to eat all the time. It's really crazy! I know she's getting senile, but we HAVE TO spell about getting fed and try to keep it out of ear-shot of her because if she hears the words "dog" "fed" or "food" forget it!! She starts yapping away!

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 12:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
We had a dog who would trade for things she wanted! If we were eating something she thought looked yummy, she'd go and get one of her toys, put it in our lap and then look meaningfully at our food! If that didn't work, she'd also belch at us. I wonder now if she'd hear us belch when we ate, and figured that must be the human thing to do and so she belched at us when she wanted something!

Its so good to hear poor Bud is on the mend and feeling better. And so good the kids are not so nervous around him. Such a sad thing for all concerned!

Riley looks like he has you wrapped around his dewclaw SS! What a charmer!

Jagger
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08-07-2002

Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 5:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jagger a private message Print Post    
I love reading these stories about everyones pets, it's amazing how dogs each have their own little way of getting what they want.

Secretsmile
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08-19-2002

Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 8:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Secretsmile a private message Print Post    
Thought this cute

Sung to the tune of Winter Wonderland.

Dog tags ring, are you listenin'?
In the lane, snow is glistenin'.
It's yellow, NOT white,
I've been there tonight,
Marking up my winter wonderland.

Smell that tree? That's my fragrance.
It's a sign for wand'ring vagrants;
"Avoid where I pee,
It's MY pro-per-ty!
Marked up as my winter wonderland."

In the meadow dad will build a snowman,
Following the classical design.
Then I'll lift my leg and let it go man,
So all the world will know it's mine-mine-mine!

Straight from me to the fencepost,
Flows my natural incense boast;
"Stay off of my TURF,
This small piece of Earth,
I marked it as my winter wonderland.

Coco
Member

07-13-2000

Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Coco a private message Print Post    
LOL Secretsmile....I actually sang the song and enjoyed the visuals dancin' in my head!

I've got to tell you a quick Oscar story about marking his pro-per-ty...

A few days ago dd was home and decided to wash her car out in the front yard. She let Oscar come out there with her. She saw him wander off to the far edge of our lawn, near the sidewalk and he suddenly flopped onto his back and was wiggling his whole body as if scratching his back. She then called to him in order to get him nearer to where she was washing the car and he came to her. All of a sudden she smelled the dog poo! Yup, Oscar found the remnant of some other dog's visit on our lawn and he decided to mark his turf with his musk scent!

Needless to say, both the car and Oscar got washed that day!


Jagger
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08-07-2002

Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jagger a private message Print Post    
Coco my dog does that a lot, it isn't so bad in the winter time, but come summer and he does that it really stinks. He also seems to find dead animals in the empty field to roll in. Not a very plesant smelling dog when he returns home. What is even worse is he thinks it smells good and comes running along and wants everyone to smell his new cologne.

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 11:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasper a private message Print Post    
Glad to hear Bud is on the mend.

On the law in Ontario, they have banned any pit style dogs, this included unfortunately ACC/CKC recognized breeds such as Staffs. Any dog who looks like a pit. I believe they have to be sterilized and no puppies.

Saxywildcat
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05-30-2005

Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 5:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saxywildcat a private message Print Post    
Secret, GREAT parody!!

Coco, I actually sang the song as well, ROFL! I think my dogs thought i was nuts!

Regee
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10-09-2005

Friday, January 27, 2006 - 3:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Regee a private message Print Post    
Any knew news on "Bud" yet?

I have been following this horrible horrible event and have been worried, as you haven't posted any thing lately.

Reg'ee

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Friday, January 27, 2006 - 11:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Hi Reg'ee! Thanks for asking, I've been meaning to update and just got flakey.

Bud's doing well. He's got a vet appointment next week to check and see how his wounds are healing. If he's looking better tomorrow than he has been (meaning not the gorey stitches and tubes and stuff) I'll get a pic of him and post it.

We've been trying to figure out what to do with Bud tomorrow night. Sis is having a birthday party (lots of people and noise) and we've been talking about what to do with him. Not sure if the party and people will make him nervous or not and how he'd react if Darren and I bring him here for the night with my nieces. Might keep the kids calm too if he's here cuz they don't want to be real roudy around him. Just not sure he'd be more comfortable here than at home with a party though. We'll have to see how he's acting tomorrow night and decide then if we're going to bring him home.

After the attacks of the last week, the L.A. County 5th District Superintindent filed a motion earlier this week that would limit the breeding of vicious dog types. ordinance Antonovich is the one sis talked to when she called to complain about the lack of response time from the sheriffs and animal control. I'm kind of iffy about this. It'd be great if it works to stop violent dog attacks, but really if people are already breaking the law or being lousy dog owners, what do they care about something like this. Seems like it might hurt responsible pet owners more.

Totally different note, does anyone elses pup get a little stir crazy in the winter? We have pretty mild winters most of the time, so we can still take Harvey on walks but he doesn't play out back as much when it's colder than when it's warm. The last couple days he's been so hyper running around the house and jumping up on us that I've had to put him out back and close the door on him to force him to run some of it off. He's about to drive me nuts, lol. I know it's cuz he's not spending as much time outside as usual but he's stubborn about going out in the cold too. Hate to force him out there and shut the door on him (usually we leave it open and he comes and goes when he wants) and I feel like a big meanie but I don't know what else to do with him to work some of that energy off.