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The TVClubHouse: General Discussions ARCHIVES: 2005 Dec. ~ 2006 Feb.: Free Expression: Fact or Crap?? (ARCHIVES): Archive through January 19, 2006 users admin

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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Fact.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 8:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
crap

i just read all these questions to dh. regarding the flag "flying" on the moon, he told me "springs" were put on the flag to make (it "fly". he said he was certain of this...i googled anyway and he's right:
http://www.telescopes.com/faq/17.html)


Abby7
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07-17-2002

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 8:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
oops, not sure if dh is right. nothing about "springs". i also read another article that the flag is probably no longer flying. sorry for going o/t.

Coco
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 8:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Coco a private message Print Post    
I'll base my answer on a personal experience.

I've had a 6oz cup of regular brewed coffee and I didn't have the zippiness that the same 6 ounces of an espresso gave me....WoooHoooo!

So my answer is Crap.


Serenity
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06-28-2005

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serenity a private message Print Post    
I think I heard once that espresso is a "knock your socks off" drink - but I don't drink hot coffee. I guess that makes my answer crap.

Chaplin
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01-08-2006

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 8:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chaplin a private message Print Post    
Crap

Landi
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07-29-2002

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landi a private message Print Post    
it's crap. espresso has the same amount of caffeine in the same cup of coffee. it's just a different way of brewing the bean.

Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 11:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
And it's just more concentrated. Less water in proportion to the amount of coffee used. Wouldn't that make for more caffeine?

I would compare it to using double the amount of coffee in the same amount of water. I like my coffee almost chewy.

Heyltslori
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09-15-2001

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 5:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heyltslori a private message Print Post    
Crap

Denecee
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09-05-2002

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Depends on what you mix the espresso with, me? I mix it up with some choc. milk and a shot of sugar free cherry syrup, but I have 4 shots of espresso in my 20 oz cup. based on my info, I'm going to say CRAP.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 8:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Fact.

I base this on the fact that Bigdog has a big, semi-professional espresso machine, and whenever he wants to make espressos for company after dinner, I always ask if it is decaf, and he always replies that it doesn't matter because espresson doesn't have all that much caffeine in it anyway. He says because the water stays in contact with the coffee for such little time, it doesn't have much opportunity to absorb the caffeine.

But I usually only drink it after dinner if he assures me it is decaf. :-)

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Fact and Crap

Is it true that espresso has less caffeine than regular coffee?
Yes and no. An espresso cup has about as much caffeine as a cup of dark brew. But servings for espresso are much smaller. Which means that the content of caffeine per milliliter are much higher than with a regular brew. Moreover, caffeine is more quickly assimilated when taken in concentrated dosages, such as an espresso cup.

The myth of lower caffeine espresso comes comes from the fact that the darker roast beans used for espresso do have less caffeine than regularly roasted beans as roasting is supposed to break up or sublimate the caffeine in the beans (I have read this quote on research articles, but found no scientific studies supporting it. Anybody out there?). But espresso is prepared using pressurized water through significantly more ground (twice as much?) than regular drip coffee, resulting in a higher percentage of caffeine per milliliter. Please refer also to Does dark roast coffee have less caffeine than light roast?

Here's the caffeine content of Drip/Espresso/Brewed Coffee:

Drip 115-175
Espresso 100 1 serving (1-2oz)
Brewed 80-135

Coffee Facts

Jagger
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08-07-2002

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jagger a private message Print Post    
Well it says a cup of coffee, a cup is 8 oz, the last time I looked, but it just says an expresso, doesn't say a cup of expresso.

I will just assume he meant a cup of expresso vs a cup of regular coffee.

Even at equal amounts I still think the coffee has more cafine than an expresso, especially the way I make coffee.

SO CRAP

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 1:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I can drink several cups of coffee and still feel tired. One cup of Espresso and I feel it. FACT. (IMO)
Can we google answers?

Max
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08-12-2000

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 2:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Happy Thursday!

Before we get to yesterday's question and answer session, a review of procedure. Googling the question before you post your answer is "cheating" (although you're really only cheating yourself, not me :-)). Googling AFTER your post is kosher, but please don't come back and impart your newfound trivial knowledge to others our you'll spoil their fun. :-)

Yesterday's question concerned my morning nectar. . . um, coffee! Doe an espresso have less caffeine than a cup of coffee? The votes are in and you said. . .

Fact 8
Crap 10
Fencesitters 3


You fencesitters got all twisted in knots! Cndeariso and Escapee offered lots of coffee information, but never really specified whether THIS statement was fact or crap. Shadoe never stated a specific answer but did share a preference for coffee that is "chewy," which makes me wonder whether the cup is filled with coffee syrup. :-)

But I digress. Here's what the calendar says:

An espresso has less caffeine than a cup of coffee is. . .FACT! This is mostly because you're drinking so much less espresso than coffee--a shot, as opposed to a whole cup. A cup of drip coffee has 115-175 milligrams of caffeine, compared to 100 milligrams for a shot of espresso. A 12-ounce can of Coca-Cola has about 45.6 milligrams of caffeine; Pepsi-Cola, 37.2 milligrams; Mountain Dew, 55 milligrams; and Tab, 46.8 milligrams. Tea has 30-70 milligrams of caffeine, while an ounce of chocolate contains 8-24 milligrams. Even decaffeinated coffee provides about 3 milligrams of caffeine."

So, it would appear that Denecee REALLY gets a pick-up from her 20-ounce, 4-espresso-shot with chocolate milk concoction! That would come in at somewhere around 408 milligrams of caffeine (depending on how chocolate-filled the milk is). And, Juju, you can tell Bigdog that he's right, but not for the reason he thinks! Also, even with the decaf, you're still getting some caffeine, so go slow! :-)

While the info presented on the calendar varies with some found on the Internet, it's what we're working with for this thread, so there you go. :-)

Okay, onward! Here's the FoC for today, Thursday, January 19th, 2006:

The Hudson River was discovered by an Englishman looking for a shortcut to India.

Fact or Crap? Discuss!


Jagger
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08-07-2002

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jagger a private message Print Post    
Crap, just cause I like the word. Is England any where near India?

Heyltslori
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09-15-2001

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heyltslori a private message Print Post    
Crapadeedoodaday!

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 3:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
Crap

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

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crap! i can't intelligently discuss this one as i tried to avoid learning anything in history class - my least favorite subject. i absolutely have no idea.

but, going with the trend already started then my answer would be 'crap'.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Fact -- by Henry Hudson on the Half Moon.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 4:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
It sounds so stupid that I going to guess it is a fact.

Rache
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05-20-2004

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rache a private message Print Post    
I was reading back through the archives, and I couldn't find anywhere where it said what the procedures were for this thread. You stated above a review of procedure in regard to googling the answers.

Max
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08-12-2000

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 4:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Sorry Rache, I had stated in one of the earlier FoC items that Googling before answering was 'cheating'. Someone asked about it again, that's why I included that. :-)

It's really all in fun, anyhow.


ETA, I added the information at the top of the thread. :-)

Laralyn
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08-04-2005

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 5:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Laralyn a private message Print Post    
Think it is fact...

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 5:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Thanks for clearing Google up for me. I like guessing..LOL

Ok, I think Columbus thought he was finding a shortcut, so why wouldn't someone else? FACT.