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The TVClubHouse: General Discussions ARCHIVES: 2005 Dec. ~ 2006 Feb.: Free Expression: Fact or Crap?? (ARCHIVES): Archive through January 18, 2006 users admin

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Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
fact

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 8:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
I say fact. Because there's nobody hanging around on the moon available to salute.

OT kinda, but when I moved up to Seattle from Phoenix AZ, as a 19 yr old...I commented once to coworkers at lunch that we had always been raised to run out and take down the flag the moment it started to rain. That it was considered disrespectful to leave the flag waving in the rain. But I couldn't understand all the flags that I saw hanging out in all sorts of weather.

One woman thought about it and told me "But if we don't fly the flag in the rain, we wouldn't hardly ever fly the flag AT ALL!"

I realized that she had a good point in soggy Seattle. Also noticed they usually were the weatherized type of fabric and well maintained, not discolored. Bisc

Coco
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Coco a private message Print Post    
Fact

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 11:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Crap

Max
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08-12-2000

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Costa makes a good point. I think for this particular Fact or Crap calendar, they are assuming an American audience and an American flag. Not exactly a global point of view, but . . .

Jagger
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08-07-2002

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 3:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jagger a private message Print Post    
Just because it seems so strange I have to say Fact

The Frank one, I should have had that one nailed, It wasn't too long ago when I watched a show on the kidnapping of the kid and this was brought up. Dang I hate this short term memory.

BTW I love this thread....

Heyltslori
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09-15-2001

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 5:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heyltslori a private message Print Post    
Crap

Wink
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10-06-2000

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wink a private message Print Post    
The moon sounds reasonable so I'll say Fact

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Moon missions? Hello? to say it's never saluted is a bit far fetched. You could stand here on earth and look at the moon and salute the flag, if there is a flag waving all of the time.

Jeep
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10-17-2001

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I say crap, because of the words "flag flies". There is no air on the moon for the flag to fly.

Laralyn
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08-04-2005

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Laralyn a private message Print Post    
I'm guessing...crap

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 3:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
fact

Max
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08-12-2000

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Good afternoon FoCers!

Nice response to yesterday's question: Is the moon the only place where a flag flies all day at full mast and does not get saluted?

Fact 11
Crap 13


Most creative answers:

Salutatorian Award to Costacat - Wondered what kind of flag we were talking about. Excellent point! This calendar seems to be assuming that we are all Americans and therefore it's an American flag. Big assumption? Heck yeah, but. . .

Gallileo Award to Cndeariso - Questioned what constitutes "all day" -- is it 12 hours or 24? Is a day on the moon the same as a day on earth? Things that make you go hmmmmm...

Scientific American Award to Jeep - "I say crap, because of the words "flag flies". There is no air on the moon for the flag to fly." Jeep, have you taken the Mensa test? You're suspicious of all the wording, which is a good thing to be on that test! :-)

Patriot Award to Escapee - For pointing out that the flag on the moon can be saluted from right here on Earth. Just look up and salute!

My apologies for leaving off the correct answer before! (Thanks for keeping me on my toes, Lance!)

Here's the REAL answer. . .

It's FACT! Neil Armstrong planted the American flag on the moon, near the Sea of Tranquility. There are actually six American flags placed on the moon, one for each lunar mission.


So, I guess they figured that aside from being an American flag. . .(a) saluting from the Earth doesn't count, (b) moon walks only happen when Michael Jackson is on stage, (c) a flag that's held in an extended fashion by a metal arm or frame is "flying", (d) a day is a day is a day-o, and (e) even though you might not see it, someone may be saluting the flag outside your office building right this minute!

Well, I think it might be hard to top those award-winning answers, but here it comes for Wednesday, January 18, 2006:

An espresso has less caffeine than a cup of coffee.

FACT or CRAP? Discuss!


Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 3:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
Max, what is the correct answer?

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 3:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
fact

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
ditto what lance asked.


the answer to this one can go either way and another depending upon the coffee in question. on average expresso has about the same amount of caffeine as coffee based on your common serving size. but, some coffees have more and some have less caffeine than expresso based on common serving size. now, ounce for ounce expresso has the most no matter what coffee it is compared to.

so, i guess i don't have a fact or crap answer because i don't have enough information to come to a conclusion.

darn, that was a long post not to answer the question.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 3:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Trying to remember what I read about how much caffiene is too much. Said that you could have a six pack (yes, a six pack) of sodas a day or x amount cups of coffee. If I'm remembering right the cups of coffee you should have were way less than the six pack of soda. I don't remember espresso being mentioned at all.

Based on my probably faulty memory and the thought I got after reading that, coffee is just loaded with caffiene, so I'll say fact.

Max
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08-12-2000

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 6:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
ACK! I'm sorry! In my haste to give out awards for creativity, I forgot to include the correct answer to yesterday's question! I'll go back and edit the post so that it's all in the proper place. :-)

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
shouldn't you have said 'crap, that's a fact, lance'? LMAO

Max
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08-12-2000

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
CRAP! Cndeariso is correct! :-) Guess this is just a crappy day, memory-wise, for me! LOL

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 7:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Crapomundo

Wink
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10-06-2000

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wink a private message Print Post    
Well since I would assume they're talking about espresso in one of those teeny tiny cups I'll say Fact

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 7:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
Fact (if the cup of coffee is >7 oz, there is more caffeine than a 1.5-2oz espresso).

'squeek'

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
For the coffee question, fact

Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 7:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
Ounce for ounce, crap.