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Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
Kali the Goddess - Gentle Mother - Fierce Warrior
She is shakti(female energy)
Kali is the universal mother. It is believed that she goes into the darkness with us, and for us, to swallow our sins, worries and concerns. She can show us how to radically transform our lives by embracing our own darkness, rather than fearing and fleeing from that which haunts us. She can spiritually hack away at the handcuffs that keep us shackled to the hungry ghosts of the past.

Chaos must exist in compliment to order in the creation and maintenance of balance in the universe. The dark side of the divine exists in contrast to the bright and the beautiful.
No female deity embodies the duality of light and dark in a complimentary existence as well as Kali.
Ramakrishna and other great Indian poets sang rapturously of Kali, for they understood that she is a blissful goddess. Once faced and understood, these mystics say, Kali frees her worshipers of all fear and becomes the greatest of mothers, the most comforting of all goddesses.

The more I learn of Kali, the more I am positive it will most represent the inner me, and all before and after me.

Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 3:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
Escapee, the koi covers my right side starting on my ribs and down to hit my hip bone.
The tattoo represents sadness and loss (weeping buddha) for my grandmother, positioned over the liver for her liver, and the koi as the goodness and luck. I have her name, birth and death dates in Kanji on my hip bone.
The Kali/Shiva will be a continued dedication of sorts to the unconditional foundations in motherhood.

Landi
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07-29-2002

Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 3:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landi a private message Print Post    
shadoe, is this why you named your daughter what you did?

Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 3:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
Landi, nope but isn't it incredible how things happen?
I absolutely believe that everyone and everything are connected in some way. We do things like select names, for some reason, many times not knowing why we do what we do.
The story is that my favorite color was green so I had selected Kelly as a name. My brother said that was too normal and suggested a different spelling.
And there you have it: Kali

Now, years later, I am pleased with my choice - my actions years ago now are connected to my present.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 3:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Ahh so it's Kali and not Shiva lol I thought that was a female lol.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Did it hurt like a b*tch. I have a tattoo on the lower part of my stomach offset next to my left hip. It is a four leafed clover and underneath it says "lucky you". the things we do at 19 that we think are cool.....however, it hurt really bad as that is super sensitive skin. Also, since having a child, it has quite the large stretchmark right through the center of it. I should have known with this pale thin skin I was gonna get the stretchies....

Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 3:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
Mocha, some of the stories go that there was evil which could not be stopped so they called on Shiva to help but he was meditating. It goes on that his consort was so angry that she appeared in the form of Kali to stop this evil.
I think she kind of took a like to it and once she got into the swing of killing all this evil, she could not stop.
Shiva her husband threw himself on the ground amongst all the dead who Kali had killed. Kali in her rampage, stepped on Shiva and the shock of it stopped her. They then danced.
Shiva, he may be a destroyer, but take note that it is the female who is standing atop this destroying male. Females rule!

I am pretty sure I have chopped the crap out of the stories and legends but the gist is there.

Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
Escapee, over bones hurt, really hurt. I will NEVER get another tattoo on my ribs.
Two are enough.

If you get tattood on fleshy areas, you will not feel much at all. They say that the calves and outer upper arm by your shoulder/bicep are the least painful. Now the inner fleshy part of the arm though is no picnic.

It also depends on the artist, if he/she has a 'heavy hand' when it comes to the tattoo gun. Some are light as a feather, but others are like a primary schoolchild with one of those thick pencils just beginning to learn to print.

About the change in your tattoo, if the appearance bothers you, it is very simple to get a good artist to touch it up or alter it, or even cover it with something larger.

I have a very good tattooist, but I am still not looking forward to his applying the Kali over my spine. It will well be worth it to me though.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 4:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
i have a heart on my heart. when the guy did it, he said, "don't move or i'll blow your t-i-t!" (he said it without the dashes, but it gets modded here)... it hurt like heck, so i never got another one! i went with my gynecologist LOL he got a mosquito with a drop of blood. another friend went later and got an oak tree on her shoulder.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
I also have one on my back, right on my spine across the small of my back. It didn't hurt a bit and was quite bony when I got it, although I was a lot thinner when I got the one on my tummy too, so maybe that's why. The tattoo artist said the places where you have more blood flow, or blood flow closer to the skin will hurt more, something about the nerves being closer to the surface or something.

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 5:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
And Escapee that's exactly why I'm getting my Snoopy/Union Jack on my butt, high on my hip. Lot's of fat ... hopefully won't hurt too bad.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 5:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Lol

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 3:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
I'm getting my tattoo in just a little over a week. I've decided against the Union Jack/Snoopy combo ... too cutesy for me. It will just be a small Union Jack. I've found the parlor I'm going to use. Now I'm looking for any advise that I might need. Someone told me to bring something to clench between my teeth???

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 3:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Hahaha. Where are you getting it again V? I don't want to scroll back lol.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 3:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
Vanick...don't cry. I did!

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 3:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
I'm getting it on my upper hip/butt area.

Kearie, you cried! Did it hurt that bad or were you just scared??

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Oh that area shouldn't hurt too much. You'll be fine.

Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 4:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
Vacanick, you don't need to take anything to bite between your teeth, especially since you are getting the tattoo on a fleshy area. The butt/hip, calf, or the outer arm are great spots for little feeling.

Location is pretty important when it comes to any 'pain' you may have. Keep in mind that some areas have nerve endings closer to the surface so you may feel more. Over any bony areas is tough as well. Stay clear of your inner arm too.

Also, females are tougher than males when it comes to getting tattoos - ask any tattooist who whines more.

I go for my first sitting on my next tattoo on Jan21 I am getting a large one of Kali/Shiva on half of my back.

If at all possible, take a cam with you so that you can get your tattooist to take a picture of the fresh tattoo.

Good luck and enjoy!

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 5:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
LOL....I'm a whimp...and it was center, lower back up my spine. I shed several tears while he was doing it because it hurt.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 5:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
here it is...

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 6:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
Ooohh Kearie ... that is so pretty! And I can tell that your thin and isn't the middle of the back a very sensative spot. I can understand why there were tears involved!!

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 6:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
I think so...wish they would have told me that.
I'm still glad I got it. I just felt stupid for shedding tears because people were poking barbs at me(other customers).

I won't ever get another one because of the pain...but I love this one.

Jbean
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01-05-2002

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 6:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbean a private message Print Post    
good luck, nick! i've been known to shed some tears with a couple of my tattoos. including the one i have in that ^ location. there's no shame in it....sometimes they hurt!

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 11:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
If ya need to Vac, tell your artist you need to get up and stretch. They hurt some, to me it felt like a very localized sunburn, lol. None hurt that bad that I needed to bite down or anything, but the one on my chest I was in such an uncomfortable position I had to stop about half way through to be able to stretch and move a little. Artist didn't mind at all, it gave him a chance to pull out his wallet and show me pics of his wife and kids (we'd gone to high school together.)

Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 4:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
Some tattooists have a 'heavy hand' so while you may feel it more, you sure won't have to worry as much about it fading.

Depending on how long your tattoo takes, it's usually common to take a break every hour or so. I have had a 5hour sitting and we took about about 3 or 4 breaks. When my side was being inked, I had to hold my right arm over my head and the arm kept going to sleep. We stopped frequently so I could give my arm a shake.

In most cases, it does not take long for the body to release endorphins that act like a buffer to any immediate pain. After the first few moments, all I feel is mostly vibrations (similar to a dentist) and a warmth. I don't know how the body kicks the endorphins into doing what is needed but I have to say that I suspect they may get tired after a long sitting or maybe don't kick in sometimes.

Kearie, I would not feel stupid at all because everyone has bad days. Once I was having problems after only 30min but other times I have nearly fallen asleep. I told my tattooist if I start to snore, please give my shoulder a shake LOL.

Vacanick, location, location, location.
Over bone like the spine or shins can cause some pain, or tender spots like the inner arm or leg and the midsection, but you should be ok with the fleshy spot you have picked.

Be sure you follow your after-care instructions. Keep the area very clean and lubricated; I find the healing more discomforting than the application. Just think of any scab when it heals and dries; it can crack and pull at your skin. Tattoos in areas that move alot such as the wrist is an example. Don't pick or scratch the tattoo while it is healing because all you will do is literally pull out the ink from your skin. You will end up with a blotchy looking tattoo and may have to go back to touch it up.