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Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 4:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Watch out for the mighty Brewers next year. They could win 82 games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Newman
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09-25-2004

Monday, December 26, 2005 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Newman a private message Print Post    
I'm a big baseball fan stuck in Colorado, a loser franchise, with bad ownership, and no hope. What does a person like me do? Play fantasy baseball, of course.

I don't know what other people in loser cities like Tampa Bay or KC do. Without fantasy baseball I'd be a basket case. With FB I can follow my beloved baseball, be my own GM, control my own team, draft it, cut deadwood players, pick new exciting rookies, and still be a fan of baseball in general.

Then when it comes to playoff time (with the Rockies having been eliminated in June) I can pick a real team, that I might like for some reason, and hope they go all the way.

Without fantasy baseball I would lose interest in the sport, like I have for hockey and the NBA.


Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Monday, January 02, 2006 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
Who is it that is the St. Louis Cardinals fan?? I remember seeing the logo a lot last year. Anyway, thanks for Matt Morris. I think the Giant have what it takes to win this year. One last shot for all the old guys.

Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Friday, February 17, 2006 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
OK guys, where are all the baseball fans? Pitchers and catchers are reporting this week, and the season is right around the corner. I can't wait!!!!! The only two things I count down are how many days until the first baseball game each spring and the start of Big Brother.

Vinblanche
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02-15-2006

Friday, February 17, 2006 - 3:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vinblanche a private message Print Post    
Mamapors, I'm just hoping that the Toronto Blue Jays are back to their World Series form. Because for the last few years, they've been bottom-feeders. They have no direction to go but UP!

Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
Newman, join me in rooting for the San Francisco Giants this year. This is the year. I can feel it! I have been watching this team for the last 40 years, and I just have this feeling.
So sorry Vinblanche. Not the Blue Jays this year. I hope they are better than last year for you, but nope, not the World Series this year.
I do believe that this year, it will be ours.

Nancy
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08-01-2000

Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 12:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancy a private message Print Post    
GO RED SOX!!!!

Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
Nancy, doesn't Johnny Damon look good with his hair a little shorter and pinstripes on his back?

Mak1
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08-12-2002

Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mak1 a private message Print Post    
Mamapors, that was just cruel! Nancy, I'm not sure we'll recognize our Red Sox this year.

Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
Not meant to be cruel--just a little fun. I know the Barry Bonds comments can't be far behind!!

Mak1
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08-12-2002

Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mak1 a private message Print Post    
Sorry Mamapors, I did read your comment as humor. :-) I just haven't come to terms with Damon in those darn pinstripes, lol!

Oregonguy
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02-12-2006

Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 5:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oregonguy a private message Print Post    
is anyone trulty interested in the world baseball classic. i would hate it if i were an owner and my star player got hurt.

Nancy
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08-01-2000

Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 6:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancy a private message Print Post    
mak1 probably not-although truth be told i DO like johnny's shorter hair--but i'll still boo him at fenway now LOL

Did you see the pic of curt in the boston herald today? :-)

Mak1
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08-12-2002

Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 6:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mak1 a private message Print Post    
I like the shorter hair, too, but the uniform is just so wrong! I hope his defection doesn't begin another curse. LOL! It goes without saying that you'll have to boo him at Fenway. No, we don't get the Herald. I'll have to check it out at the library Monday. I wonder if Manny plans to be Manny again this year. blech!

Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 7:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
Oregonguy, my only interest is that I get to see baseball on TV sooner. And if I were an owner and one of my star guys got hurt I would be distraught. I was glad when Barry came to his senses and when Armando decided not to play. I am a little worried about Omar Vizquel and Randy Winn. I will keep my fingers crossed.

Don't know about Manny

Newman
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09-25-2004

Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Newman a private message Print Post    
Oregonguy, I'm with you. The WBC is stupid. Just a marketing thing. Sell, sell, sell. Pitchers have pitch counts? Is that really baseball? What's the point? It's just glorified spring training. Will pitchers be running in the outfield during game time? It's a bad joke being forced on the people.

Mamapors, I can't root for SF, even though my cousin pitched for you guys in the l950s. I root for my city. You're in my division. Maybe I could root for Oakland...or Toronto...


Oregonguy
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02-12-2006

Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oregonguy a private message Print Post    
seems to me bud selig is trying to keep all the owners quiet on their apprehension of the wbc. only steinbrenner has spoken out.
also what about all the fans that go to spring training. i went to my first spring training last year and would be quite upset knowing a lot of stars wouldn't be there.
i picked the giants last year to come out of the nl. unfortunately i think they are too old to make a serious run at it this year. you are lucky the play in a weak nl west.


Newman
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09-25-2004

Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Newman a private message Print Post    
The NL Worst.

Oregonguy, I hadn't thought of that. Spring training will be ruined. I used to love going to Arizona, the sun, the casual atmosphere, watch Barry Bonds take a few swings, and so forth.

I suppose we can still watch the kids play, the up and coming rookies.

I hope the WBC fails miserably. A one year blunder.

New Topic: steroids and the HOF. I'm disturbed that Bob Costas, one of my journalistic heroes, seems to be waffling on Big Mac for the Hall of Fame. He'll be up next year. All those guys are tainted with steroids, performance enhancers. How can we judge them? Costas says he wouldn't vote for McGwire on the first ballot. What does that mean? He would on the second? Reward the cheaters???? There is no rule that Big Mac or Sammy Sosa HAVE TO BE in the HOF. Thoughts?


Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
WOW Newman. Does it matter? Just asking. It seems that every generation of ball player had their "skeletons". The generation of the 90's had steroids. They all had access. We will never know the extent. The pitchers had access, the hitters had access. Don't think they were cheaters. Just playing at a time when they had access. Should it keep them out of the HOF? Don't think so. Big Mac maybe deserves to be in. Sammy not so sure. Although he is 5th on the homerun list. What about Barry when his time comes?

About spring training, been going for 20 years. I do think the WBC will change it. For the team I watch, not so much though. Visquel and Winn and Pedro Feliz. I am really against it for other reasons. The injury factor for one. Arizona will still be sunny and warm and casual and I still get to see Barry take a few swings. Still sounds like heaven to me.

Oregonguy
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02-12-2006

Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 12:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oregonguy a private message Print Post    
hello newman

my guess on mcgwire is that he will not get in on the first ballot for sure. i think the writers will send a message and he will get in 2nd or 3rd try. i think without a positive steriod test ( palmiero ) players of the steriod era will eventually get in. imo most of the ball players that put up those numbers were on the juice, unfortunately baseball chose to close their eyes to the problem.
i think bonds will be first ballot due to the fact that when he was skinny he won 3 mvps and played gold glove d.

if i was a voter i would first ballot (griffey, arod) the ones i thought had the numbers and imo did it fairly. the ones i thought were on roids (mcgwire,sosa) they would wait year(s). without proof it would be hard to keep them out.
i think a lot of players are holding their breathe to see how mcgwire fares.


Jagger
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08-07-2002

Monday, February 20, 2006 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jagger a private message Print Post    
The roids issue it hard to come to a decision on. We all know (or at least speculate) that a lot of the players over the recent years have been using some sort of performance enhancement drugs, probably illigal ones at that. But we don't have the proof on the majority of them. Thanks in part to a very strong union and a very quiet baseball league who just wants to keep it all quiet.

I have lost a lot of respect for the sport of baseball because it has gotten really bad as far as equal representation, it seems like the teams that can afford to spend the money will buy up all the good players, even if they don't win it all it takes these good players and puts them all on a few teams.

I've also lost a lot of respect for my home teams owners and therefore don't care to waste my time on his team. He has become or always has been a money hungry ********* He went so far as to get his own TV channel and broadcast the games on that, yet none of the local cable or dish owners carried that station on their broadcast. He thought he would be able to force these cable companies into paying him high buck to broadcast the games, they wouldn't bit so the fans didn't get to see the games at all.

Newman
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09-25-2004

Monday, February 20, 2006 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Newman a private message Print Post    
Mamapors, I think baseball is like a religion to me. I'm a purist. Steroids is not just a skeleton in the closet for me. It's cheating of the worst kind. It makes it impossible to compare eras.

Can you say that Barry Bonds was a better ballplayer than Hank Aaron. In the pre 9/11 days (ooops, wrong metaphor) pre steroids day you could try to compare Aaron to Clemente or Kaline or Jim Rice or Roger Maris. But how can you now? That angers me.

I probably overreacted about spring training. It still will be fun. A new year. Hope springs eternal. The vets don't play that much anyway. What do the rookies look like? Who will be the next Willie Mays or Mickey Mantle, guys who were my boyhood heroes, and didn't take performance enhancing drugs, well, except maybe speed, but that doesn't increase the distance of your long flies...


Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Monday, February 20, 2006 - 5:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
Newman, baseball is a religion in my house too. When my son was little, we used to go to every opening day. I told him it was a religious holiday. Well I stopped that after he told his third grade teacher that he wouldn't be in school tomorrow because it was a religious holiday. She called me and scolded me. I was more careful after that.

I just think that without any real proof, it is hard to know what to think. I know we have some proof from those who have admitted it, but what about the others? Are the steroids any worse that the speed, amphetamines, alcohol, uppers and downers, and other things that have plagued the sport over the years, or the same thing, but just a sign of the times? What will the next thing be that the players take to make them better, faster, stronger? Am I making any sense? I refuse to let it ruin something that I hold so dear and enjoy so much.

Do I compare Barry to Hank Aaron. Absolutely. Different eras, different circumstances, but both great.

Newman
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09-25-2004

Monday, February 20, 2006 - 10:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Newman a private message Print Post    
Barry Bonds' hat size increased after the age of 35. That's proof. His best friend was indicted in the Balco scandal. There's all sorts of proof if you want to look for it.

It's not my job to ruin baseball for others. If you still enjoy it, Mamapors, well good for you. I wish I did. I'm trying to get ready for my fantasy draft this year. Without fantasy baseball I'm not sure I'd even follow the sport, since we don't have a major league team here in Colorado <heavy sarcasm>.

Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro and many others took steroids. Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Mantle and Mays ate hot dogs and drank beer. There is a big difference.


Mamapors
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07-29-2004

Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 10:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamapors a private message Print Post    
It might be easier to talk about religion and politics. We are not going to dissuade each other. I am just as positive that your boyhood heroes (who were also my girlhood heroes) were not as pure as you think they were.

I am happily getting ready for another season to start. I am sorry you don't enjoy it any longer. I could not imaging spring and summer without the sounds of the game going on in the background of my life.