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Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the nice words about my Maggie Mae!

Yes, Jbean ... a Silky Terrier is a cross between an Australian Terrier and Yorkshire Terrier. Silky's are bigger than Yorkies. Maggie is a full grown at 9 pounds.

I've read about the difficulties that poor Lola Bean has been going through lately. I'm so sorry! I also wish her a quick recovery! She's so adorable!



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Kstme
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08-14-2000

Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 3:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Wow! I haven't been on the board for a while. What cute pup pics!

Coco, I'm so sorry about Mamamia!

JBean, tell Lola to get better. Poor baby!

Vacanik, your Maggie is so cute!

Updates on the Sussex bunch...Wednesday morning, Norm and Cami are flying to Indy to live with Cami's breeder. It's been a very hard decision to make, but it will be better for all four dogs. Thekid will have co-ownership of Norm and Cami, thereby, giving her equal rights in all decisions made by she and our breeder in Indy. The pups will be out on the show circuit until they are Championed. After that, Thekid could take Norm and Cami back or have one of their pups at a future date. <it's been a very rough few months>

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 6:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Ah, I completely understand all of that Kstme.. seems like TheKid is making decisions that show that she's in it for the long haul. Co-owning with the right breeders and mentors can be a most excellent thing.. I can understand why it is rough, too.

Coco
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07-13-2000

Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 7:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Coco a private message Print Post    
Watching, thanks for sharing your story. It was helpful to me as I put my thoughts on Momma Mia in perspective. My dh says that he feels Oscar has been adjusting well to being an "only child" since we've lost our Cocomo. I do see that Oscar is pretty much a happy little guy, but I'm so concerned that he just sleeps allday long...that or he's learning some new dance moves with the radio I leave on during the day...lol!

Saxy, thanks for taking a peek at my boy! He's the smartest dog I've ever had! We have this routine when I get home from work...as soon as I unlock the front door, he come peeling out and runs around the grass like a crazy dog! Then he comes to my feet and sorta cowers and makes little crying sounds - that's my prompt to get down into a crouching position and give him tons of verbal lovies while scratching his head and ears. Then he jumps up onto my bent knees and starts licking my face with doggie kisses. Then he starts running around the grass like a crazy dog again for about 30 seconds and then he's ready to come back into the house with me....
this occurs Monday through Friday.

Kstme, thanks for your kind words, I truly appreciate them. As for TheKid and the Sussex bunch, I'll have to go back and read about her dilemma. Sorry to hear it's been a rough few last months and I hope that the future holds better days for all of you.


Kstme
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08-14-2000

Monday, October 24, 2005 - 9:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
I need to say a word about puppymills. Yesterday morning it was discovered that a Sussex male was accidentally sold to a puppymill in Missouri. The people who sold the dog are devastated and have offered three times the amount of money to get the dog back, but the new owner will not budge. He has purchased a entire litter from overseas to begin his 'breeding' program. He, also, has many other breeds at his 'puppy plantation.' This is such sad news!

What I ask of anyone thinking of buying any dog, PLEASE, do NOT purchase your new pet from a pet store, PLEASE! There are so many legitimate breeders, pounds, rescue groups out there that there is no need for these pet stores to exist and continue this horrible puppymill business!

Thanks everyone!

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Monday, October 24, 2005 - 9:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Kstme, I'm so sorry, that is such horrible news! Especially with the sussex since I know you've said breeders are so careful about who they sell to.

Did ya get my email yesterday? I got a message this morning that it'd been delayed for some reason.

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Monday, October 24, 2005 - 9:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
We're all hoping he'll lose interest very fast when he realizes Sussex are very difficult to breed. blech! bad man!

No email, War. Weird. Can you send it again?

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, October 24, 2005 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Kstme, be sure he has your phone number, so when he finally gives up he doesn't just dump the dogs.

Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Monday, October 24, 2005 - 3:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
I am scared of cute dogs because I know they would have me jumping through hoops.

Now that I have stated my weakness, I have to say that I would love to get a Chinese crested. While they are small and cute, I have a feeling that they are pretty opinionated and tough.

Oh wait, that sounds just like my skinny black cat Booboo. Great, I will have two pets to push me around then.

At least I will still have Shadoe my friendly football shaped cat.

I would never ever buy a dog from a pet store though; I believe that both the breeder and the new owner should be comfortable with a purchase. I know I will have oodles of questions for fear of not providing some needed care of a breed. One thing I DO know is I will not be the one grooming a Chinese crested - I would be terrified of hurting the animal.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, October 24, 2005 - 7:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
There's not much to groom on a chinese crested

Kstme, I feel for you and the breed..

Labradors had the horror of being the #1 dog in registrations more than one year and that isn't a good thing. The puppy mills go after the "rare breed", the "rare trait".. often one that isn't even regisetrable.. like white german shepherds or white labs or black and tan labs (ACK).. puppy mills suck.

We had a local woman in our lab club and she got way too involved and then started buying up dogs to just breed willy nilly.. she got her hands on a nice looking lab but then they found out there was a genetic defect and she refused to not breed this dog.. she had started in cockers and was not liked by those breeders for the same reasons and I can remember going to a show and almost throwing up seeing her with a liver flat coated retriever.. at least there were other lab breeders who also had flat coats and they could warn people. She would sell litters to local pet stores and we finally changed our club code of ethics, which already included not selling to pet stores and not selling whole litters like that, to banning any breeder who did this. So at least she couldn't say she belonged to out club.

I'd really be vocal about the breeder who sold them a whole litter, too..

Shadoe
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11-04-2004

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 2:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shadoe a private message Print Post    
Sea - I was looking up tons of sites on the Chinese crested and found out that they do indeed need regular grooming to keep that gorgeous bald look. They grow a fuzz and areas around the ears and tail and feet need to be trimmed as well.
The way I see it, if one can afford a purebred, one should be sure to care and groom the animal properly. I'll go for the added expense to make sure the tender spots don't get nipped by clippers in my hands.

Now I just have to find out about a reputable breeder.

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 6:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Sea, the breeder in Europe who sold the litter is an unknown to the States. Not from the UK, either, but the SSA (UK) has gotten in touch with the breeder and is requesting they relinquish their breeding dogs. The whole thing makes me sick!

Yesterday, Cami's mom had 5 live births, 4 girls and 1 boy. One girl born dead. So far, so good on the others. One little girl had a rough start, but she's looking better this morning. :-)



Kstme
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Just had to post these two pics of Norm. He's such a busy boy!
normwithwaterbottle004
normwithwaterbottle005

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
KSTme, did I miss something and you posted about some rough months with Cami and Norman? Or did you just recently post about it? I have been neglecting the TVCH the last few weeks. I always like hearing about your pups and wondered if I missed any of your stories.

Hope all goes well w/Norman and Cami. And hope you still toss in a few pictures of Maggie and Ollie.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I like how the dogs have their cooler right next to their human's cooler!

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Julie, you may not have missed anything. It's been pretty tough with Ollie and Maggie. They do fine with Cami...they completely ignore her. But, somewhere along the way, Norm and Ollie decided the hated each other. They cannot be left out together. As Norm grows and if we left him here, in our home situation, he 'could' become aggressive. We can't have that. Norm is one very busy boy. He cannot be crated all day and neither can Ollie.

When Thekid first bought both dogs, it was with the understanding she would send them to our Indy breeder to be shown. So, in reality, that's what's happening. Thekid and the breeder decided to do a co-ownership so our breeder in Indy would be able to make decisions regarding Cami and Norm without having to have 'written' permission from Thekid. Thekid 'will' always be able to take them back or have one of their pups, later. Their first show is in November! :-)

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 7:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Okay, that kinda clears me up! Sorry to hear that about the boys. Luckily you guys have a good plan. So will Norman and Cami live with the breeder then? Are there male dogs there? Good luck to them in their first show. Do Ollie and Maggie do shows?

Urgrace
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08-19-2000

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Urgrace a private message Print Post    
Good luck to theKid and the plans for Cami and Norman. Do they start out in local district shows or go for some of the national ones? I know you will miss having them around. You know, double the pleasure double the fun? (Norm took his water cooler apart and drug it to the living room sofa? OMGosh! LOL)

So sorry to hear about the sneaky fellow and the unauthorized litter of Sussex. I know he would breed as fast as possible to sell high since the breed is rare here. Sure hope something can be done about it.

Hope Cami's mom is doing okay and the rest of the litter makes out well.

Kstme
Member

08-14-2000

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 8:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Here's the middle pic...
normwithwaterbottle003

Cami already has 4 points. This will be Norm's first show. Yes, Julie, they will live with our breeder and four other Sussex. She has a couple of acres so they will be able to run and play outside quite a bit. They really need it! Ollie and Mags don't show...we had them fixed years ago.

Gracie, they start out at the local shows and work their way up. Indy breeder has been to Eukanuba twice with Gwen. UK breeder was at Crufts last year and is invited back this year. We just don't have any shows in this area. All are overnight trips and it doesn't work for us.

Norm also pulled a complete roll of tp out the dog door this morning! No pics cause we were all shocked he managed to take it off the holder! Gracie, I swear Norm is like a steamroller!! Our Indy breeder is expecting the 'terror from h*ll'!! Cami's aunt, Kessie, is the same way, so she's prepared...or thinks she is...LOL

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Sorry for high-jacking the thread these last two days, but I have one more thing to add to the puppymill business.

When you find a breed of dog you love and you've done all the research you can on it, please be careful finding a breeder to buy from! Go to the AKC.org site and find a breeder from the Breeder Referral Person listed with every recognized breed. I just visited a puppymill site that made me sick to my stomach! A reputable breeder will NOT have 5 or 6 different breeds of dogs ready to sell at over inflated prices, right now! A reputable MAY have 2 or 3 breeds they breed and show, but will rarely have a ton of puppies for sale. Some breeders 'do' have websites and do advertise their stock on it, but PLEASE check the breeder out with the AKC or with the Local or National Clubs!

As you can tell, the Sussex Club is going nuts, right now! But, I believe this is vital for anyone buying pets of any kind! The time spent finding the right breeder will save you a fortune in heartache later.

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 9:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Here is an example of a puppymill website. This is NOT the miller who has the Sussex.

http://www.carms-kennel.com/

Please notice how some puppies are nothing more than mutts, i.e. schnoodle <?> A Labadoodle/Goldendoodle are NOT dog breeds!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 9:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I would also like to add that you can also find perfectly good (even great) dogs at your local dog shelter. If you really want a particular breed, then check the rescue sites first as well as shelters. Many purebred dogs can be found at shelters, you may have a longer wait, than if you settled for a mutt, but you can find them there.

Seamonkey
Moderator

09-07-2000

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 1:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
There are also breed rescue groups for many breeds. I know that the lab club I belonged to for many years, while they didn't feel they could officially host a rescue, people from the clue formed a rescue for labs and they would go to shelters or take direct adoptions and then foster and attempt to find good homes. In this way a person wanting a lab might have the knowledge and advice of people who actually know the breed, but rescue an unwanted dog.

And of course good breeders will often have info on available dogs who need a good home.. they may have fallen short of being a show dog but are wonderful companion animals.. often they have wonderful training. The breeder can tell you about what to expect temperament wise, etc.

PuppyMills just crank out animals and you can't even be sure that the "papers" are accurate.

Jbean
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01-05-2002

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 4:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbean a private message Print Post    
i know some of you guys think that animal clothes are stupid (from the last time i posted a picture of lola with that dress on). so at the risk of getting mocked again, :-) lol, here's a picture of lola in her new cold-weather, wear outside only, pink sweater. i think she is too cute for words in it, but that's just me, and i'm the mom, so that probably doesn't count. anyway, here goes:

new sweater

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 4:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Oh she's adorable Jbeaniegirl!