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Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Friday, October 14, 2005 - 8:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Yay White Sox!!

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

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White Sox and Astros World Series? We will have achieved Nirvana and it might be the final auger of the apolcalypse. And just for thinking it, I'm sure I have cursed it so it will be a Cards/Angels series (which wouldn't hurt too badly, but just sayin').

Texannie
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07-16-2001

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shush your mouth!

Rosie
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11-12-2003

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Keep on posting! lol. GO ANGELS!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

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sigh ... gee, thanks GAL ....

Rosie
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11-12-2003

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sheesh ump

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

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Whoohoo!! Great baseball day!! Go Sox!! Go Stros!!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Go Astros!!!!!!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

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A couple of questions:

If the Astros were to win the World Series, doesn't that make it like 6 in a row times that the wildcard team has won it?

Do you guys like that or not?

Do you guys like the wildcard style or the traditional style?

Texannie
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07-16-2001

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I would see nothing wrong with that!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I should have rephrased that! Not the Astros, per se, but any wildcard team.

Like, the Cardinals (not that i am biased...) Okay, let's not use the Cardinals as an example.

Let's say team A has dominated throughout the season and has an incredible record. Do you think it is better that the best team (throughout the entire season) in each league plays each other in the World series, or do you like it as it is now--giving a team (who has not dominated, but did win the wild card spot) a chance to get hot and win it all?

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
It's not like the wild card was a losing team and got a pass. You would still have to narrow down the divisions (NL East & NL West) to come up with one team from each league so you would still have the chance of one team with a better record losing.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 8:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Right, but do you think it is better to have the 2 best (one from each division) play against each other,

OR

do you like it as it is (Annie, don't think Astros, cuz that will bias you:-)) where the 2nd place team from one division gets a chance?

Rosie
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11-12-2003

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I just think the Angels should win.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 8:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I can't help but think with my bias! LOL
it would make for a shorter playoff season that's for sure.
i can't remember, have they always done the wild card or is it new.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 10:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Wild card is new. Well, it started in the mid 90's, so not brand spanking new. I think this year is the 10 year anniversary.

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 11:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
the wildcard is VERY new which is why there still so much debate on it on sports talk radio -the traditionalists versus the new generation

it started just in 1994 when they expanded teams even more. You cant just say do you want the two best teams playing each other because if you look at records many times that is not the case and so that is the positive thing of the wild card...look at this year alone, you has the padres winning the NL West with a 82-80 record - and yet SIX others in the national league alone had better records than the padres - they just happened to be in other divisions. And if you look at the American League, the Red Sox finished with the exact same record as the Yankees and Angels - the Angels won their division, and the Yankees won the AL East by a tie breaker in stats (not a tie breaker game) and so they moved on but that 95-67 record is better than both the Padres and Braves who automatically made it in the NL and the Astros record. Things have gotten so complicated when they expanded into three divisions because how do you have that playoff with three teams - it still would be a 2 series system with two teams playing and then the winner playing the 3rd just to get a final team to the world series...to me it was bad enough when they started the league championship in 1969 with the division ti two divisons but then in 1994 came the Central Division and additional playoffs- and of course, the wildcard.

i admit i am divided on this issue because i am very much a traditionalist in baseball even if i am just a young'un at 30, and i would much prefer the one winner per league since now, we will never have the call again like "the giants win the pennant, the giants win the pennant, the giants win the pennant..." because seems meaningless now with all the playoffs - no one says that at the end of the league championship anymore - they say they won the League not that they won the pennant, even though that is what has happened... that magic is gone now since we no longer have ten teams per league as we did in 1968 and now have 30 teams (16 in NL and 14 in AL) ... that being said, in the moment, who doesnt love to see the underdog win, such as the marlins, or the sox last year - though the sox werent really an underdog record wise but were in how they got in and how they played in the playoffs - we like giving people a chance to take down goliath and i think that is one reason so many support the wild card - plus financially it expands the markets from 4 teams to 8 teams in the playoffs so more "fans" can keep rooting for their teams and keep the ticket sales up... so i do understand why it will be hard to make the wild card go away - but even if it happened over 20 years before i was born, i still wish we had those moments when the pennant still mattered and it still came down to the last game of the REGULAR season and you were either in or out (still will never forget the orioles playing the blue jays on the last day of the season in 1989 and if we had won, it would have meant a tie in the AL east and a tie breaker game but the orioles lost and the blue jays went to the playoffs but you cant get a more exciting game when everything is on the line - versus the yankees and sox this year when they knew both would make the playoffs regardless of the last two games of the year...

anyway, here are two short articles from the daily texan that speak of both sides of the wild card

Wild Card Boots Baseball

Wildcard Harms Baseball




Texannie
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07-16-2001

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GO ASTROS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rosie
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11-12-2003

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Interesting game

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I think the umps were wearing those very glasses!! :-)

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 8:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
GO WHITE SOX!!!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

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Knew you would say that Julie! LOL told my dh that now there will be controversy and his comment was 'who cares, a win is a win!'. But as the announcer said, 'that player said all the no no words!'

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

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WHAT A GAME WHAT A GAME!!!! Down to the last strike--totally looked like Houston had it giftwrapped!

Well, we still have far to go, but at least there'll be one more game at Busch Stadium!

Albert ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

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Texannie
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07-16-2001

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