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Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Monday, September 26, 2005 - 6:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
FOX doesn't have a problem with the delay. Thanks for your answers everybody :-)

Racsan
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04-09-2004

Monday, September 26, 2005 - 6:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Racsan a private message Print Post    
Well FOX being a regular broadcast network has to pay for the delay also. The network, not NASCAR, has to pay. SO if NBC and NASCAR are having problems, NBC saying that they are airing on TNT because of the cost of the 7 second delay would be a "reasonable" excuse/reason. I guess I don't get the reason as to why it's so bad on TNT vs NBC. I remember last year that a night race went late and there was NO victory celebration and/or post race interviews because of not wanting to interupt the evening news. At least when it's on TNT they broadcast until they are ready to end.


Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 7:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
The races will be on NBC again this weekend. The four networks have "partnered" to buy the rights to show the races so the races are split up over the course of the season. I don't know exactly how they divvy up the races but it probably has a lot to do with how many viewers they are going to get for each race. You can guarantee that the Daytona 500 will always be on Fox because it's a huge draw. Smaller market races will probably get relegated to the cable networks. It also probably depends on what the NFL schedule is and what other major sporting events the "big" networks have on - if Fox has the baseball playoffs it isn't going to be showing Nascar, etc.

It has nothing to do with any 7 second delay nor with NBC "sticking" it to NASCAR. I think actually the ratings have been up this year.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
Fox and NBC share the rights. Fox gets the first half of the year and shows some of the races on Fox and some on Fx. NBC has the second half of the season and shows some of the races on it's cable channel TNT. They used to alternate the Daytona 500, but when NASCAR instituted the "chase" format...Fox was miffed that NBC would getting all the benefit...so NASCAR gave the Daytona 500 to Fox exclusively.
I don't think NBC was too happy about that.

Ratings have continued to grow...but NASCAR wants as many races as possible on the network and the networks want to boost their cable ratings by using NASCAR...so they are constantly at odds.

Races on the network score MUCH better ratings, as many folks don't have cable. NASCAR wants the higher ratings.

Rumor has it that NASCAR wants even more money next time around and NBC claims that it is already losing money. There is going to be another contract coming up after next season, and ABC/ESPN are rumored to want NASCAR back in the fold. They are sponsoring Jayski's site now, and are having a NASCAR "chase" program on ESPN news. So the signs are there.

So we will have to hold our breaths and hope that NASCAR is able to negotiate a tv contract that will be good for sport, when we all know that they will first and foremost negotiate to make the most money possible to line their pockets.

Happygal
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11-15-2004

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happygal a private message Print Post    
thanks for all the clarification! Here in Canada we get to see all the races regardless of which network is carrying them in the U.S. When they are on TNT, our national sports channel picks up the feed. Which is a bit surprising, considering that NASCAR is such an "American" racing series and has no stops in Canada. Up here they go crazy for Formula One and then for the Champ Cars. I can't wait for NASCAR to show up in Seattle (or somewhere else in the Pacific Northwest)...

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
Good news Ketchuplover! NBC will be broadcasting the 8 remaining races.

Giz
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08-21-2005

Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Giz a private message Print Post    
Thank Goodness this thread is here! Hi All! My name is Giz (aka Laura) and I am a NASCAR fan LOL!

I like Mark Martin, I have followed him from IROC to Busch to NASCAR. I am so happy he is leading the points as of now! I don't know what I am going to do when he leaves. I heard tales that he is going to be involved in racing but I don't know if he will be for himself or helping his son Mat.

Even though I want Mark to win, I wish your drivers all good luck in the race! Have a happy speeding day!

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
YAHOOOOOOOOx100000000000000000000 That's great news Marysafan :-) Guess my whining paid off lol. I think there should be some way to have the races on both networks simultaneously(NBC & TNT or FOX & fx)

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
Welcome Giz! Glad you were able to find us! Mark will still be around for a couple more years. Probably in the #6 next year, and then off to the truck series.

I don't have one favorite driver, not since Davey Allison died. I like most of them, some more than others, and there are only a couple that really get under my skin.

Enjoy the race today!

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 3:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Fantastic race eh? :-)

Happygal
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11-15-2004

Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 4:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happygal a private message Print Post    
Great race!!!! But that Ryan Newman is one great big piece of kaka. Glad to see DJ win... he ran a smart race from beginning to end. And good for Tony Stewart to end up second. All my favourites were knocked out before the end... but it was still an exciting race to watch.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
I can't believe Scott Riggs walked away from that crash! I loved Jeff Burton talking about the crazy way everyone was driving, he tells it like it is.

DJ - drive the truck on your victory lap next time.

Giz
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08-21-2005

Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 8:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Giz a private message Print Post    
Well, not a good race day for Mark! My poor guy!After those wrecks, I am just happy no one was seriously injured. Did anyone see who flipped? We were in the middle of getting the food off the grill when it happened. I think it was the wreck that took Jimmy Johnson out.

I am happy for DJ and Todd Parot. My friend passed away a couple of weeks ago and her husbands sister is friends with Todd Parot. He called to express his sympathies and so did Elliot Saddler and Jamie McMurray. What a bunch of good guys. It was good to see DJ and the team win even though I am a Mark Martin fan.

I hear you Beach about Jeff Burton! He does tell it like it is!

Happygal
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11-15-2004

Monday, October 03, 2005 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happygal a private message Print Post    
Giz, the other card that flipped was Michael Waltrip. He's fine and still thanking his sponsors!

Giz
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08-21-2005

Monday, October 03, 2005 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Giz a private message Print Post    
Thanks Happygal! Michael is a trip huh! I heard he was going to start up a race team with someone else. I am probably mistaken but I wouldn't be surprised if he does and his sponsors follow him. He is really good about giving them props!

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Monday, October 03, 2005 - 4:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
I think Mikie signed with Bill Davis - hope he has better luck than (my secret married crush) Ward Burton did!

What about all this illegal shock mess? Do you think Jimmy should have lost his win because it appears they (Jimmy and Kyle Busch) used not-so-legal shocks? Guess it depends on who wins, it if had been some no-name driver/owner then they probably would have yanked the win away.



Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 7:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I think both Jimmy Johnson and Ryan Newman should have been black-flagged for rough driving on Sunday! They both bump-drafted while going through the turn and caused major wrecks...grrrr....I hate restricter plate racing.

I'm glad DJ won and happy that Rusty didn't lose too many positions due to Ryan's stupid mistake!

Mark Martin is going to race the truck series, some Busch races and full-time in Cup next year, so he's going to be around plenty. After that he will be going to the truck series full-time with a few Busch races thrown in for good measure...some retirement, huh?

Felt kind of sorry for Dale, Jr. Jimmy Johnson was so busy pointing fingers at him - he should have kept his mouth shut and looked at the replay - Dale wasn't anywhere near his back bumper when Jimmy hit Elliot Sadler.

Giz
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08-21-2005

Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Giz a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the info Beach!

While I am not a fan of Jimmy and Kyle, I do not like the fact of the yanking of the win. Have they been penalized this year for the same thing?

I am not sure how that works. Does NASCAR give the teams a list of what can/cannot be used on the cars for different tracks? Even though I am a NASCAR fan, I am unsure of how NEXTEL and NASCAR work behind the scenes.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 11:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
There are a specific set of rules about different parts - how tall they can be, how stiff the springs can be - but NASCAR is sometimes a little unreliable on how they enforce the penalties...

Jimmy Johnson has finally acknowledged causing the first wreck...must have watched the replay

Giz
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08-21-2005

Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Giz a private message Print Post    
Thanks Roxip! I just read that he watched the replay. He was blaming Jr. for getting into the back of him.



Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Giz, if you ever want to read about racing two good sites are nascar.com and thatsracin.com. The second one is the webpage associated with the Charlotte, North Carolina newspaper and, of course, Charlotte is where the majority of the NASCAR teams are based. They have the BEST coverage.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 7:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
I second what Roxip said. Those are the best news sites. But if it's rumors you want...check out Jayski.com.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I can never make head's nor tails of Jayskis...but I'll give it another try. I love rumors and innuendos...let's start a new one - RUSTY is coming back next year (in my dreams - heavy sigh - where Rusty is quite a lot of the time!).

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 4:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
Glad to see that Nascar has rescinded Mikie's fine and gave back the points for his supposedly shooting the bird at Robbie. A committee reviewed the tape and 2 of the 3 members said it was inconclusive whether he was making an obscene gesture.

At Nascar.com I like to go to the News tab, then select "newswire", then using the dropdown boxes select your favorite driver and it will bring up all the articles from the national newswire about him.

Giz
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08-21-2005

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Giz a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the help! I knew about Nascar.com but didn't know about the newswire. I just selected what was on the home page LOL! I try to read at least one article from there on my lunch break.

I had no clue about thatsracin.com. I am going to have to check that out! Thanks a million for that site!

I will try to check up on Jayskis but may have to wait for the weekend.

I usually catch something on the Speed channel. Since I work evenings, I don't know if the show is a rerun from the day or something from the day before LOL!

I am glad they gave back Mikie's points and rescinded the fine! I never heard what happen to Robbie though.

Thanks so much for the info! You all are the best!