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Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 12:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I think the mayor and the governor acted as quickly as possible when they knew the path of the storm; they can only go by the information provided them by the National Weather Service etc. and, as soon as they knew that they were in the path, they acted. I don't think most of us knew 24 hours ago that NO was under such dire threats and it's impossible for the mayor or the governor to have known, either.

Unfortunately, federal cutbacks to cities have had a devastating effect on the poorest of the poor and we do a terrible job supplying shelter to those who need it. I hope those cutbacks don't have dire consequences for those in the storm's path.

Azriel
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08-01-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 12:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Azriel a private message Print Post    
The mayor wasted many precious hours vacillating when it was apparent that there should be a mandatory evacuation. There is no excuse for a mayor of NO to not be prepared for this event. It's been a huge concern for too long.

Numerous officials urged him to evacuate the city, but he worried about the legality of ordering people out when New Orleans has few safe shelters. Also, National Hurricane Center Director Max Mayfield in Miami called Nagin at home Saturday night and told him: Get people out of New Orleans.

''I could never sleep if I felt like I didn't do everything that I could to impress upon people the gravity of the situation,'' Mayfield said. ``New Orleans is never going to be the same.''


New Orleans in Grave Peril



Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 12:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
There is NO WAY I would leave my fur babies. If I couldn't get out with them I'd stay behind with them and protect them to the best of my abilities. It makes me sick that they are telling folks to leave their pets home. And they wonder why some people don't evacuate.

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 1:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Well, it just seems to me that a city knows itself best. New Orleans had to know for decades that a disaster like this one was more probable than not. Course I realize that money is the bottom line here, but bit by bit, over time, the various administrations should have come up with and built upon an emergency preparedness plan that could have made their state shine in this situation instead of making them look uncaring, inept and lacking in both foresight and leadership.

Hope the storm continues to degrade before hitting land--and that damage is minimal, with no loss of life.

Ddr
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08-19-2001

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 2:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ddr a private message Print Post    
Tishala, excellent post.

Kearie, here is a link to a website that helps shelter horses, please pass this along to your friend. http://www.lahg.net

Red Cross shelters do not take animals. Maybe this is one area where the national animal organizations could get involved and organize this area. Some hotels lift their no pet policies during times of evacuations.

Ddr
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08-19-2001

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 3:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ddr a private message Print Post    
More live streaming stations can be found here:
http://www.southtvnews.com

I'm watching WLOX out of Biloxi.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 6:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
A large piece of the SuperDome roof has pealed away, and now the SuperDome is leaking, so they are shifting people around to get them out from under the leaks.

Gulfport does sound to be in greatest peril at the moment.

Pcakes2
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08-29-2001

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 7:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pcakes2 a private message Print Post    
Ddr and other...thoughts and prayers are with you.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 7:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Good to see you were still with power at 5:30 this morning, Ddr.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
When it flooded here in N. Cal, we had 24-48 hours evacuation notice. A lot of people carted their animals to local farms that were not in flood zones. They were asked to bring enough food for their pet for two days. We took 4 horses, a sheep, 2 cat's and five dogs to a farm in a town of about 1800 people, that was currently hosting 50,000 at the high school and Rec Centers. It was chaotic, but we knew our animals were safe. They gave a stall to each group of animals, cat's stayed in carriers, and we went out to feed them each day.
After the levee's broke on the other side of the river, I was shocked that so many people had left behind their animals, and then were mad at the county for not giving them more notice. I was appalled at these people. They could have made arrangements for boarding in another town, etc. There were many places that were not filled to capacity in the foothills and other surrounding areas. No excuses, IMHO.

Ddr
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08-19-2001

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 8:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ddr a private message Print Post    
Hi Guys! I'm fine, we're getting rain and wind bands, but nothing major at all. We've had worse rain storms here. I feel very very fortunate this morning.



Ddr
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08-19-2001

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ddr a private message Print Post    
St. Bernard Parish Officials are on air right now saying levee breach has put their parish under water. They are waiting for clearance for search and rescue, reporting people are on their roofs awaiting rescue. They are saying they are 12 feet under water. This area is south of New Orleans.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
That's great, Ddr. I have passed that news on.

Max
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08-12-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 9:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Some of the reporters are nuts. CNN showed video of one gal who is quite small getting literally blown away while trying to set up for a report. Her camera crew had to grab onto her or she would have blown down the street like a loose leaf! One reporter kept telling his cameraman to move closer to the building because 2x4s were falling from the roof and he was afraid he'd be hit by one. Portland's own Rob Marciano (well, he was here for a while, even though he's not a native) was on CNN reporting from Biloxi at a hotel where people are trying to stay out of the storm. These guys put their lives on the line, literally, trying to get this story out as it happens. I hpe they get hazard pay!

Sounds like NO has had bad damage, but Mississippi will get the brunt of it. The Red Cross is mobilizing and calling for volunteers from anywhere they can get them, but won't be able to move into many areas until the storm is well passed. The repurcussions of this storm are going to be felt for a long time. There's no telling what has happened to the offshore oil rigs.

So far, the only deaths I've seen reported were some elderly people in NO who were being evacuated from a nursing home. Several of them died on the way, which I suppose is not too surprising given the level of stress involved. :-(



Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I've heard there is substantial flooding in NO. WE've also had a call from our local Red Cross for volunteers to go help with the cleanup. Just breaks my heart for them.



Max
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08-12-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 9:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Oh, there's plenty of damage in NO, including flooding. But from what I've heard this morning, the storm turned towards Mississippi early this morning and Biloxi is getting hit worse than NO did.

LOL. CNN is showing a report now that was put in by a reporter who the announcer introduced by saying he taped it, then went somewhere where he got computer access and used a new technology called FTP to upload it to CNN Central. LOL Clearly whoever wrote that copy has no computer knowledge since FTP has been around for a VERY long time! :-) Good for the reporter finding a way to file a story no matter what!

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
From a Louisiana tv station the Mayor of NO reports, 150 people or more on their roofs, calls coming in at the rate of 5 per minute, people needing rescue from the flooding in NO.

At least one levee breach reported; and one pump is currently identified as not functioning since it is under water.

Buildings collapsing throughout the city, approximately 20 reported so far, and may have people inside.

700,000 homes (approx) in SE Louisiania without power.

The full brunt of the storm is hitting, and rescuers cannot reach anyone at this point.

The SuperDome has collected more people since the storm hit. Half of the rubberized roof surface has blown off, and tiles broken, raining in, but structure is intact and roof is stable. Approx 25-30,000 people there currently.

Can't get in until this afternoon. All they can do is get reports from police radios. No phone service, no electricity.


Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
I'm worried about Biloxibelle.

And my dh and I also got a good chuckle at the FTP exultations.

Ddr
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08-19-2001

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 9:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ddr a private message Print Post    
I'm worried about her too Yank.

Max
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08-12-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Me, three.

Coco
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07-13-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Coco a private message Print Post    
I was just coming in to see if we had any word on Biloxibelle....so make that me, four.

On a happier note, I'm glad to see Ddr posting!!


Ddr
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08-19-2001

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ddr a private message Print Post    
I just read up this thread to see where Biloxibelle said she was located. Here is her location. If anyone finds info on this area, maybe they can post it.



Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 9:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Wow, Biloxibelle is right on the water. Yikes. I saw pix of flooding all over the place. Maybe they were able to go and stay at the hospital where her stepsis's mother is on her deathbed. Do you know where the nearest hospital is in that area?

Max
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08-12-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
http://hurricane.methaz.org/hurapak/

This site has a very vivid mapping of the storm's path. It looks horrific.

http://www.topix.net/city/ocean-springs-ms
This one is the local newspaper for Ocean Springs, MS.

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
I'm looking for pics. Here's one for New Orleans:

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A New Orleans city police car with its rear window broken is abandoned in flood waters on Canal Street in downtown New Orleans 8-29-05, in advance of Hurricane Katrina. Hurricane Katrina slammed into the Louisiana coast on Monday with 140 mile per hour (224kph) winds as the powerful storm came ashore from the Gulf of Mexico and took aim at low-lying new Orleans. REUTERS/Rick Wilking