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Tishala
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08-01-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
(((Annie)))

These are very rough days...harder for some of us, like you, than for others. Stay strong.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 4:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
{{{Annie}}} I think you have an important contribution to this thread - to this board... to me!!

I understand, but hope you get your needed rest!!

{{hugs}}

Max
Moderator

08-12-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 4:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
((Annie)) I hope you will continue to share some of the good stories with us. We need them as much as you probably need to share them.

On Anderson Cooper, they did a piece on a family who had lost their home, but who were still finding things to laugh about anyway. There were actually two families, the younger couple and the mom and dad down the street. Both homes completely gone. They said they'll rebuild and be fine again. It was sad and encouraging all at the same time.

Reader234
Member

08-13-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 5:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I'm posting, because I have no one to talk to, to get this out to... I'm posting because I remember what it was like when I worked, and would come to tvch to get news on other disassters from work, where there was no news coverage.

I do post an opinion here and there, but mostly I am stunned by what i am hearing. I've read the paper, and maybe should post some of those heartwarming stories...

a family sat on their roof, 3 days, the next day was the girls birthday, they made a birthday wish for them to be rescued on her birthday. Her wish came true!

Native_texan
Member

08-24-2004

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 5:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Texannie, don't you dare let anyone take away from what you have done. Your mansion definitely got a new wing or two added on. I only wish I could be there with you. I am not in a position right now to financially help, so today I tried to found out what I could to physically help here in Dallas but was told they actually have more volunteers than they can handle. My 11 yo is also wanting to do something so I think we will go to our neighbors and collect items for donation. I am so proud of the people of Big D with their even bigger hearts.

Also, I have to say this - I've been hearing a lot of people making this a racial issue. I'm not going to argue this one way or the other, but I do want to say that I just watched about 30 minutes of rescues being made by ordinary citizens and while every single person being rescued was African American, very single rescuer was white.

Moondance
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07-30-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 5:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moondance a private message Print Post    
Dear Members and Friends,

Hurricane Katrina has dealt a devastating blow to the Gulf Coast and it will take years for the region to recover. The toll on the human victims is almost beyond imagining. A toll has also been taken on the animal companions in the devastation as well.

Many people were forced to leave their homes during and in the aftermath of the hurricane and couldn’t bring their animal friends with them. We know and understand the anguish these caregivers are going through and want to assist in the rescue of these helpless victims.

Best Friends is asking that you contact any friends or relatives that you have who were required to evacuate the disaster areas. If they have companion animals that were left behind, please have them contact the Best Friends Hurricane center:


hurricane@bestfriends.org

(435)644-3965 Ext. 4455

We are compiling a list of animals in need to distribute to people on the
ground rescuing stranded animals.

Please ask them to include:

Contact name

Contact phone numbers

Address where the animals are

Name(s) of animal(s)

Description of animal(s)

We hope that you can help us to ease the minds of those animal caregivers who have already lost so much. Please pass this message on to as many people as you can.

Thank you for caring about the animals and the people who love them.

Sincerely,

Kelly Koeller
Network Manager, Resources & Content
Best Friends Animal Society
5001 Angel Canyon Road
Kanab, Utah 84741
435-644-2001 ext 256
kelly@bestfriends.org
www.bestfriends.org


Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
I'm listening to the concert that the NBC stations are doing. I think the whole thing is starting to catch up with me...I can't seem to stop the flow of tears.

But I want to say this, yesterday hubby said he saw someone (I'm guessing Scarborough Country but am not sure) who said that the people who had their acts together and did the most good were the churches. He gave out the names and numbers of several churches and told people to send their money to them. They were the ones doing the work.

Bravo! to all you have been involved and volunteered. I am so proud to know you! You are my heroes.

Native_texan
Member

08-24-2004

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 5:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Mary, please pass the Kleenex

Meli456
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05-01-2003

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Meli456 a private message Print Post    
Do You Know What it Means to Miss New Orleans?

Do you know what it means to miss New Orleans
And miss her each night and day
I know I'm not wrong because the feeling's
Getting stronger the longer I stay away

Miss the moss-covered vines, tall sugar pines
Where mockingbirds used to sing
I'd love to see that old lazy Mississippi
Running in the spring

Moonlight on the bayous
Creole tunes fill the air
I dream about magnolias in June
And I'm wishin I was there

Do you know what it means to miss New Orleans
When that's where you left your heart
And there's one thing more, I miss the one I care for
More than I miss New Orleans

Twiggyish
Member

08-14-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 6:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Meli, I was crying when he sang that. I love New Orleans.


((Annie)) thank you. Our hearts are with you!

Wink
Member

10-06-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 6:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wink a private message Print Post    
Texannie it's you and people like those in your church community that evacuees are going to remember for a very long time. Your generosity of spirit and your willingness to take care of those who are left with so little is really an inspiration.



Reader234
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08-13-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 7:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I just cant watch CNN without "talking" o someone. Greta... on Fox has nothing but praise about the heroic actions of Texas.

Karuuna
Board Administrator

08-31-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 7:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
A couple of quick things...

On MSNBC tonight, they showed a picture of a man who had been beaten almost to death by some others. It was in a line of people waiting to be evacuated. He was beaten with a piece of pipe.

RE: SELA and the Army Corp of Engineers, their goal was to prepare NO to withstand a Cat 3 storm. Since Katrina was rated as a 5, and arrived as a 4, there is doubt whether or not the improvements would have stopped the levee problem. You can read this article at Factcheck.org

Is Bush Responsible?

A New Orleans police officer was on CNN talking about the "killing, raping and looting".

I know there are many good things happening. But there are hideous things happening too; and I feel it would dishonor those victims to not report them.

I am also grateful for the folks that are giving of their own lives and time and resources to help out and be heroic in these heartbreaking days.

Cathie
Member

08-16-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 8:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cathie a private message Print Post    
We have received many pedi patients at our hospital, with more still expected. The baby I mentioned the other day has been reunited with his parents. They had been looking for him in Houston, and arrived in FW today for a joyeous reunion.

We have about 25,000 refugees settling in the Fort Worth/Dallas area. The community has been generous with food, clothing, shelter, transportation. A job fair is scheduled early next week with area companies offering over 1000 jobs just for the refugees. Most of our shelters are located in atletic complexes, with shower and toilet facilities. Hot meals and comfy beds are being provided, many area citizens are opening their homes to strangers. There is always more that can be done, but we are tryng the best we can.

Mameblanche
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04-13-2005

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 8:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
PAY IT FORWARD - For every decent thing anyone has ever done for me when I've been stuck, I wanted to help out these poor folks. So on the advice of ItsCarolee919, I went online and offered to call folks in Toronto on behalf of Katernina Victims who contact me.
Here's the link if YOU are interested in helping and have no idea what to do:
http://batonrouge.craigslist.org/vol/


Link now takes you to the volunteer messages for Baton Rouge, LA area. There is a link in the top-right corner of the page to post your own message there. (22)

Cathie
Member

08-16-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 9:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cathie a private message Print Post    
I get an error when I click that link, Mame.

Max
Moderator

08-12-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 9:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
THe New Orleans Craigslist now has a section devoted to Katrina resources. There are sections for housing, relief agencies, employment, missing people, and more.

Urgrace
Member

08-19-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 9:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Urgrace a private message Print Post    
A sound off: It may be that I don't have all or even enough of the facts to make a conclusion, but it never made sense to me that New Orleans was ever built below sea level, so now I wonder why there is even any discussion about spending billions of dollars to rebuild it. Of course those who lived there can put a sentimental value on their lost homes and family members, and I would never try to take that away from anyone, but logically it seems an unintelligent decision to rebuild it where it now stands under water.

A lot of the people who have come to San Antonio and other shelters here in Texas have made the decision to stay and make their future home here. They have nothing to go back to.

If levees are the answer to rebuilding the city, to me it is not the right answer. It seems this should wake people up and make all of us realize we cannot build our homes on unsolid foundations, like houses hanging off the side of cliffs where they can and do slide off in a mudslide during a storm
- or next to rivers that occassionally have walls of water gushing downstream devastating everything in its path
- or in bowl shaped areas below sea level next to the sea!

The sentimental value can be held in the hearts of those who've survived and those who will rebuild their homes and businesses. I just hope that they rebuild on higher ground.

My prayers are with all of these victims and the rest of our country to hold on to our humanity and aid our neighbors. I also pray that we find an intelligent solution to this devastation and do it quickly.


Meli456
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05-01-2003

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 9:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Meli456 a private message Print Post    
Karuuana, factcheck.org, despite it's innocuous sounding name, is a right-wing front website. I'm not discounting the information in that article, but its a very dubious source.

Max
Moderator

08-12-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 10:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Here's an interesting article on CNN: The Big Disconnect in New Orleans

It points out, without commentary, the discrepancies in various viewpoints between officials, reporters, and victims of the situation in the city.

This is exactly the kind of communications issue I've been talking about that leads to the problems with getting help to the people left in the city.

Juju2bigdog
Member

10-27-2000

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 11:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Reader, thanks for all your reports today. I am reading them now.

{{{Texannie}}} you are one small, dear and energetic person, but you do not have unlimited physical and mental resources. Take a little time off to recharge.

Prisonerno6
Member

08-31-2002

Friday, September 02, 2005 - 11:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    

quote:

but it never made sense to me that New Orleans was ever built below sea level, so now I wonder why there is even any discussion about spending billions of dollars to rebuild it.




It never made sense to me that LA was built on a fault line or much of Boston on a landfill. New Orleans is built where it is because it is a major port city. Refuse to rebuild New Orleans, and you lose the port for the Mississippi.

But seriously, who cares? Can we hold off on the should they or shouldn't they argument until they GET THE PEOPLE OUT OF THERE!

Azriel
Member

08-01-2000

Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 12:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Azriel a private message Print Post    
You might as well join the two threads because this is becoming a News and Views thread.

Meli456
Member

05-01-2003

Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 12:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Meli456 a private message Print Post    
I meant to post that in the other thread, went to move it and decided to keep it here since it correlates with Karuuna's post. Why not discuss the issues instead of attacking the poster?

Azriel
Member

08-01-2000

Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 12:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Azriel a private message Print Post    
I didn't attack any poster and even though I appreciate the posts, I was referring to Karuuna's post also. I thought we had two separate threads for a reason and I was only making an observation.