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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 9:11 am
When I got my cat fixed, I dropped him off in the morning and picked him up in the evening. Is it different for females?
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 11:07 am
Yes, Escapee, quite a bit different. Males get a little snip snip; females get major surgery. Redstar, she will be okay, and she will forgive you. And she will forget it ever happened. It will be okay.
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Redstar
Member
07-08-2005
| Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 1:13 pm
I know I'm being silly. I called the vet, and Emma came through the surgery just fine. All morning I mulled over why I am being so darned emotional about it, and realized that it probably has more to do with my old cat Phoebe than with Emma's bit of surgery. Phoebe has CRF (chronic renal failure). She perked up really well for a while after putting her on the special diet and bringing in the young kitten, but in the last week she has started slipping again. I think I'm transferring a lot of my anxiety about Phoebe to Emma and her surgery.
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Lkunkel
Member
10-29-2003
| Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 1:35 pm
I don't think you're being silly. If it is any help, last night DH commented about how much water Typo was drinking. I freaked out. I was absolutely terrified that he was going to die of CRF like Punk did. I stayed up all night staring at him. I realized later that he was drinking that much because his upper respiratory infection--as well as being in the adoption center for 18 days--had left him slightly dehydrated. He still has 4 days to go on the amoxicillian--which I know always makes me feel dehydrated. Additionally, his thigh muscle is still swollen from the microchip. Today, for example, he isn't drinking nearly as much. Now, other than wanting to pulverize DH for scaring the crap out of me, I realized I transferred my fears from losing Punk to Typo. It happens; we're humans with memories. Just take a deep breath, and know that it's all right.

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Redstar
Member
07-08-2005
| Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 1:47 pm
Pamy, did your vet talk to you about Feline Lower Urinary Tract Disease/cystitis? Were you advised to do anything more than just administer the antibiotic, such as diet change or encouraging an increase in fluid intake? Does s/he think it's a bladder infection or cystitis? Did s/he educate you as to the warning signs of acute cystitis? When I was a girl we lost a kitten to acute cystitis because we didn't know the warning signs. I was the first one to realize that something was wrong when I noticed that Dexter was crouched and seeming to pee when I left one evening to bike up to the library and was still in the same location/position when I came back, trying unsuccessfully to urinate. I told my mom and she took him to the vet the next day, but by then it was too late, and Dexter died that afternoon. Dexter was Siamese, and little Houdini kind of reminds me of him... I am sending healing energy to the little guy...
Get Well Soon, Houdini!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 8:14 pm
Thx Red, they said they didnt think it was cystitis(if that is the disease that makes their pee crystalize) He is not getting better...but he is eating and acts just fine...he is still peeing blood...we go back on Mon
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 1:07 am
Pamy, I know you've already had an operation on one cat for that, right?? But if Houdini has cystitis they should at least advise you to give him low ash food.. and if the special foods are too expensive, try the lowest ash/protein dog food. Not sure what else would help. I'm worrying along with you. Redstar, I can understand your anxiety. It has been MANY years since I had a cat spayed or neutered (one each).. well I had Critter spayed 15 years ago and she was there for days because she had been so sick when I first got her from the pound.. to the tune of $1000 and still touch and go for awhile, so I boarded her with the vet and she was spayed while I was on vacation. With my dogs they didn't even stay overnight after being spayed. Lkunkel.. you are right.. I've been so crazed getting ready for Nashville, cleaning, a mini-decluttering, packing, etc that I haven't strayed much out of a few threads lately. Typo is wonderful! Reminds me of my black/white male, Dude.. and I love white whiskers on a black cat (of course I love black whiskers on a black cat too.. Critter is perfect.. I get my white whisker fix from Angelina). Of course he was meant for you! Just like Critter was meant for me (at the pound I went and kittens all had holds on them but I went back for a second look in a dark room and a paw reached out to me at shoulder level.. bat! OMG a beautiful one year old black girl cat.. love at first sight.
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Lkunkel
Member
10-29-2003
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 4:02 am
Okay, Bill and I are freaking out. Bopper, our 15YO male (1-1-90) didn't eat yesterday. He drank water, but didn't eat. This wouldn't be unusual but Bopper has never met a meal he didn't eat. He's not thrown by Typo; in fact, he was nuzzling him most of the day when they encountered each other. I know he's a senior kitty, and he is going with Typo and me to the vet this afternoon, but Bill and I are scared. It's too soon after losing Punk to think about losing our Bopper. Anyone think of something less serious than death that would keep him around awhile longer?

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Redstar
Member
07-08-2005
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 5:55 am
Lkunkel, I got this from the Purina website: "Have you made an abrupt diet change? If so, your cat may not like the new diet and is holding out for the previous diet. Or, if you change diets frequently, your cat is expecting variety and waiting to see what you offer next. Cats offered a variety of foods can become notorious “hold-outs”. Have you noticed any changes in your cat’s behavior? Your cat may be refusing to eat because it is receiving food from the table and an abundance of cat treats. Giving your cat an abundance of these goodies can turn it into a finicky eater and may lead to obesity, the leading nutritional disorder among cats. How long has your pet been not eating? Cats can hold out for a particular food or coax for something new and different. However, if not eating has been persistent for two or three days, your veterinarian should examine your cat for possible illness." I would suggest trying to tempt Bopper with the treat that he normally finds just irresistable (tuna, Pounce treats, ice cream... whatever it is that really makes him a begging fool). If he doesn't eat that, then I'd really worry. I also wondered if maybe he's constipated - that could make him feel full without eating! Good idea to take him to the vet as long as you're going anyway. Cats can't go for more than a few days without eating before they begin to have secondary problems. I just want to say thanks to everyone who has said such kind things to me during my anxiety over Emma and my worry about Phoebe. It's wonderful to have that support and to be told it's okay to be anxious even about a routine procedure like spaying!
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Lkunkel
Member
10-29-2003
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 6:13 am
Well, we tried giving Bopper ham, and he didn't eat it, which means he doesn't have an appetite. He's been eating this new food for about 13 months; he might be tired of it. Bill did say that there was less feces in the "big kitty" box, so maybe it is constipation. I like thinking that, rather than thinking that he might be dying today. Fingers crossed. Thanks, Redstar.

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Moondance
Member
07-30-2000
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 7:33 am
Could be just the change with Typo even though they get along you know kitties they hate change Thinking good kitty thoughts!!!!!!!!
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 9:05 am
I think my furry grandbaby needs to hang around more cats. My dd sent me this pic...Anabelle thinks she's human! Megan said she sits like this all the time and gets up on her back legs and tries to walk. lol

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Puppylov3
Member
01-26-2004
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 9:20 am
Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute. human eh? I'd take human over mountain goat. Yup Spooky thinks she is a mountain goat (as witnessed by the way she likes to climb (and fall off) my office chair at home).
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Vee
Member
02-23-2004
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 9:24 am
She's adorable, Hypermom. Such personality in those eyes!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 9:38 am
Cute. Lk.. well I'll worry with you and hope it is something simple. Critter is back to excessive grooming, clearly related to the stress of Angalina, who is also stressed by the situation. They get to be alone for 5 days now (with the cat sitter visiting), should be interesting.
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 9:42 am
LOL Puppy! Anabelle likes to climb my screens on the windows chasing flies! Vee, she's full of mischief! Her new thing is attacking your feet. My dd puts on her big Tigger slippers before she gets out of bed. She has a foot fetish...she licks my dd's bf's feet! lol
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Puppylov3
Member
01-26-2004
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 3:24 pm
at my house it's climbing on the screens after flies - and the blind cords. All blind cords in my house have been semi permanetnly looped over the top of curtains to keep my pair of little devils away from them.
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Moondance
Member
07-30-2000
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 3:58 pm
Sounds like my house Puppy! Be sure to cut those cords so they aren't looped... animals can hang themselves. I am waiting for kitty updates! MsPamy? MsLunkel?, Redstar?????
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Moondance
Member
07-30-2000
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 4:36 pm
Shilo sends his love!

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Lkunkel
Member
10-29-2003
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 5:26 pm
Just got back. Good news and bad news on both Bopper and Typo: Bopper: Good news: Strong heart beat; clear lungs; still solidly built--has lost 1.5 pounds (from 14.8 to 13.3) since last August 2004; defecated in his bag on the way over (maybe we scared the crap out of him!); and normal temperature. Bad news: his teeth are bad (which we knew) and Joel hasn't a clue why he isn't eating, beyond that as cats get older they don't eat as much. Resolution: if things are better on the 10th, when I go back for Typo's meds, I'm to bring Bop in and Joel will do a blood draw and a urinalysis. Typo: Good news: Strong heart beat, gained .08 pounds since Monday; calm and relaxed. Bad news: the bump I felt on his leg and the watery eye are results of the infection. Resolution: he is staying over night and is having his leg drained. Bill and I felt horrible leaving him, since we just got him on Monday. I hope he doesn't think we abandoned him. I know my chest is going to feel really empty tonight since he's been sleeping on it since Monday night.
PS: Bopper, Typo, and Punk all sit/sat like Anabelle. I thought it was normal.
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Redstar
Member
07-08-2005
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 6:22 pm
Emma is doing fine, but the vet is going to keep her another night because she was a little slow to come out of the anesthia. Just a precaution. Her surgical site looks fine. Lkunkel, sorry to hear about Typo. I know exactly how you feel about leaving him!!! I HATED leaving Emma, and I can hardly wait to get her back! I'm confident Typo will be fine, though - it sounds very treatable. I also know how worried you must be about Bopper. My Phoebe (16 yo) is looking pretty rough and seems to be losing weight daily. She's only eating minimally and drinking LOTS of water. Today I noticed that her hip bones are really sticking out because she's lost so much tummy weight. I'm taking her in to the vet on Saturday, but I'm afraid there's not much that can be done - it's the CRF, I'm sure. I'm going to talk to the vet about letting her go back on the cat food she likes instead of the prescription stuff. She just doesn't care for it, and I feel that it would be kinder to let the CRF progress faster instead of her starving herself. (She's a very picky eater and will only eat dry cat food. She won't eat canned food or human food at all.) I also think she's actually missing Emma, so getting the kitten back in the house may help. I'm spending as much time as I can with her on my lap and holding her, letting her know how much I love her and telling her that I want her to fight, but if she needs to leave, it's okay. I hoping she'll improve again like last time so I'll have some more time with her.
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Moondance
Member
07-30-2000
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 6:43 pm
Lkunkel can you get the teeth removed? My Samson has only two teeth. His gums and teeth were terrible so the Vet(who was great) said it was better to pull them to risk infection and kidney failure on down the line(it can cause this). He has since gained weight and has no problem eating... and yes he gums his crunchies
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Lkunkel
Member
10-29-2003
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 8:33 pm
The problem, Moondance is that 15YO is pretty old to go under the anesthetic. He may go to sleep and not wake up. Also, they're yellow but there is currently no infection. So, Joel doesn't want to do that yet. We're going to try his other favorite catfood and see if we can tempt him with that. Otherwise, by the 9th, he'll be back at the vet. Redstar: Imagine our shock when, after his littermate died in 2001, and we moved in 2002, that we actually SAW Bopper drink water. Prior to then we had NEVER seen him drink water. Now, he is drinking water regularly and looks at us like we're insane when we tell him what a good boy he is.

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Moondance
Member
07-30-2000
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 9:09 pm
Sending good thoughts... btw Samson is 16
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Halfunit
Moderator
09-02-2001
| Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 1:39 pm
Typical things found under your couch in a house with cats:
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