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Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    

My heart is with the survivors of this storm.


Urgrace
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08-19-2000

Monday, August 29, 2005 - 11:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Urgrace a private message Print Post    
Glad you are safe Biloxibelle. My nephew boogied out to Opelika, and we are hopeful that his business in Biloxi wasn't completely damaged.

This afternoon I was watching one of the weather stations and the hurricane was still moving further inland, and I thought it might even hurt people who did evacuate.

Prayers be with all those affected by this storm.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 3:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
We have dear friends in Mandeville on the other side of the Lake from NO..hope they got the heck out of there. One of the gals I work with mom lives in the French Quarter and decided to stay. Don't know how she faired.

Ddr
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08-19-2001

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 4:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ddr a private message Print Post    
I am heartbroken this morning with the news coming in from Mississippi and New Orleans.

ETA: Annie, I changed my post because of all the new information coming in. I keep learning of new info by the minute.


Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 4:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Just heard that too. I was looking at WWL's webpage at the pics..frightening.

Kaili
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08-31-2000

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 5:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
Brett Favre's family stayed in place (Kiln, Mississippi is a little north of I-10, slightly northwest of St. Louis Bay and to the west of Gulfport)- they said his mom's house had quite a bit of damage.

Schoolmarm
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02-18-2001

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 6:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Schoolmarm a private message Print Post    
The devastation is just horrible. I am still stunned by the severity of Katrina. We already have the hurricane rains here in southern Illinois, and for us to have it this fast, that was one swift and deadly storm.

I heard that the death count is over 80 by this morning.

Stay safe!

Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 6:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
Thanks again everyone. JuJu I LOL when I read your post because it dawned on me that I haven't met anyone from here in person and everyone was worried about us. That is what makes TVCH the place that it is.

I am still in shock by all this and not sure if the reality has totally hit me yet. We are still unable to get any phone calls through to there so we more or less in the dark. I pray for everyone that stayed and hope TVCH members can make contact soon with loved ones. We have some family that refused leave and we can't amke contact.

My oldest son is meeting us today (he was in Atlanta) and we might try to get closer to the coast sometime today. I am going to have to leave Stephanie in Atlanta for a while until I know what have or don't have left. We live along a bayou so I'm not even sure if we have a road to get home on or a home to go to. My youngest son is safely tucked away at his aunts in Apalachicola and will be there for awhile.

I'll keep in touch until we leave. I hate to give up my commfort here (A/C for one) but hubby is about to jump out of his skin to get back.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 6:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
This may be an unpopular opinion, but the people who decided to stay but had the means to leave and now require rescuing just enrage me. This would possibly include my cousins inlaws, I don't know how they fared but they were just being ridiculously hardheaded by staying there. Hopefully no one will be injured or killed in trying to pluck them off of rooftops or cutting through their roofs to get to them. I think anyone who purposely ignored the evacuation order and later required rescuing should receive a big, fat bill for the effort. I have all kinds of sympathy for people who couldn't get out and I hope they are well taken care of with federal aid. The stubborn hot dogs who just WOULDN'T leave plain tick me off.

Faerygdds
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08-29-2000

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 6:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Faerygdds a private message Print Post    
I am so glad that our TVCH friends are safe and sound...

Big hugs to you all!

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 6:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Posted at another board....deserves to be posted here....

Now the Lake Ponchartrain levee has been breached at the 17th Street Canal. I know New Orleans and its suburbs well, and I know what this means. Lake Ponchartrain is emptying into the city, and though engineers are trying to mend the breach, they can't get the heavy equipment moved in to do an effective repair. The lake is actually higher than most of the city, so a lot of water is going into New Orleans. It will undermine the buildings that haven't been destroyed, and the water is rising above the levels that drove people up into their attics.

Nothing has been said about the levees on the Mississippi River, but the river will rise as flood waters drain from places further north that are affected by Katrina. Normally, if the river rises high enough, engineers open the floodgates on the levee that allow some of the water in the Mississippi River to flow through Lake Ponchartrain, but that kind of relief on the levee system is impossible now that the Lake Ponchartrain levees have been breached.

Normally, water in the streets is pumped into Lake Ponchartrain - now that is impossible, until the breach in the levee is fixed - if it can be fixed.

So yes, the Chicken Littles were right - it just didn't happen all at once like a disaster movie (and few disasters do, it's the undermining of infrastructure that leads to the most damage and deaths, and takes several days in the case of hurricanes and other major storms). This is going to be horribly catastrophic. It could lead to the end of New Orleans as we know it, particularly if that levee breach cannot be mended.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 7:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
The water has been rising steadily in the Quarter since about 6am!! Areas that weren't flooded yesterday are now flooding.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
I was watching CNN early this morning, heard about the levee collapse and how they were projecting 80% of New Orleans to be underwater. The pictures they showed were absolutely devestating.

Whie I was watching they were talking about an aquariaum that was either right in the path of the hurricane or in some kind of danger, and how they had (I think they said 5) dolphins they needed to evacuate. A hotel somewhere or other offered to take them, added the salt to their pool and during the worst of Katrina the dolphins were happily enjoying their new temporary home.

Buttercup
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07-16-2005

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buttercup a private message Print Post    
How to help:

American Red Cross
1-800-HELP-NOW
1-800-435-7669

Operation Blessing
1-800-436-6348

America's Second Harvest
1-800-344-8070

I got these names and numbers from CNN.

Max
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08-12-2000

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Biloxibelle, you live in Ocean Springs, right? I dearly hope your home is not a beachfront propery. Last night there was a lady interviewed from there who said her two-story brick apartment building and a brand new home her neighbors had built are both completely gone. I pray your place is still standing.

Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
Yes Max we do live in Ocean Springs, we have got word from home. The best we can tell our home is still standing for the most part. We lost a sun room on the back we just had added on last week. It was about 90% completed. We are not sure about the chimmey or roof damage but the roof is still on. I talked to the MDOT they are not letting anyone on Hwy 10 or 90 yet. There are ways we can avoid those roads but not sure if they are passable. I think we are going to hold on to our comfort for a little bit longer.

Max
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08-12-2000

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
On CNN right now, they're talking to a reporter who is at the Superdome. It sounds horrific. The breach in the 17th Street levee is the size of a football field and the ramps around the Superdome where people waited for hours the other day to get inside are now under water.

Inside, the toilets are backed up, there's no water, no power, and it's HOT. Many of the people who are being plucked from rooftops are being brought there and some are injured, which adds to the tension level. The reporter said one man was playing dominoes on the second level when he calmly got up, told a couple of people below to watch out and then jumped to his death.

I cannot fathom what it must be like. Of course none of the people inside have a clue what is happening outside or whether they have anywhere to go home to. :-(

Max
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08-12-2000

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Biloxi, on the scale of things, that sounds like very good news. :-) Please do stay safe and don't rush back until officials say it's okay. If routes aren't passable, then chances are there's not much you could do even if you could get home.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
Biloxibelle, that is great news.

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Biloxi, that's wonderful news about your home, given everything! And I have to commend you on the incredibly responsible and smart move to get both Stephanie and your son to safety well in advance of the storm.

I know you have the urge to get closer so you can get back asap and check on everything, but considering the dangers right now-- from contagions (that must be everywhere in the air and water, what with sewers emptying into the swirl of waters); from rising waters and impassable roadways; from lack of power; from lack of food and probably limited gasoline, etc--it might be best to sit tight and carefully watch the news and check in with officials from a safe, comfortable advantage.

Twiggy has been through this (big-time) from the last hurricane--living elsewhere until they could get in to rebuild. I am sure she would be glad to share how she handled this situation--and offer tips about how to proceed.

Twigs, you around?

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I am in shock, glued to CNN and MSNBC... apparently the Pentagon has released info on the canals, and they are gathering materials, barges, cranes etc to get help.

There are no words to describe the horror of seeing the city, the French Quarter yesterday, to seeing the floods, and fires today!

One reporter is coming from the roof of the Hyatt across from the Superdome, and the estimates are closing in on 15 - 29 thousand may be in the dome, several are being lifted out due to medical (diolysis, diabetes, etc) concerns...

My heart is numb, and part of me wants to go and help, to volunteer to just do grunt work... I think of the Tsunami damage, and here we are, its just so hard to comprehend what is taking so long to get help to the area! (logistically tho, of course I get it, but emotionally speaking, I'm in the we're in the 21st century - Help THEM NOW!)

Kaili
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08-31-2000

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
You know what's really awful about some people's attitudes too? In our paper today they had an article about gas prices going up and they interviewed a few people at a local gas station- This is from today's Appleton Post-Crescent.

This first statement isn't so bad, and it's a kid saying it so whatever-

“I really don’t think gas needs to jump to $3 a gallon because of the hurricane,” said Khoua Xiong, 16, of Appleton. “These high gas prices are kind of hard on young people,” Xiong said, adding that oil companies should be patient in the wake of Katrina to determine if there is a need to boost prices.

Okay. Pretty smart kid. Nothing bad about that. Then they interviewed some woman and this is what she had to say. It really bothered me.

“The price of gas is going to go to $3 no matter what happens,” Stewart said. “That’s not our hurricane, it’s their hurricane. Let people down South pay higher prices.”

Selfish. Thoughtless. Infuriating.


Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
I just heard that up to 80 people were found dead in Harrison County (where Biloxi is), MS, alone. The bridge in and out of Biloxi is demolished.

The massive nature of this devastation is just too much to believe---so heartbreaking.

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Still hundreds being rescued from rooftops in New Orleans this evening.

Max
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08-12-2000

Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
I cannot believe the pictures we are seeing -- freeways/bridges completely ruined, houses underwater, rubble everywhere -- and that they are saying it's only getting worse.

Apparently water is now rising around the Superdome. THey are now talking about evacuating EVERYONE out of New Orleans because waters are still rising and given that evertyhing is mixed with sewage, the dangers are just getting worse. Tualen Hospital is now losing generators and using portable generators for critical patients. They are trying to evacuate up to 200 patients, 60 of whom were brought there from the Superdome earlier.

I have never been to New Orleans, but I always had it on my list of places I'd like to see. My brother has been several times and says it's his favorite city. I fear that there will soon be a New Orleans lake and little more. :-(