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Jbean
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01-05-2002

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbean a private message Print Post    
actually, i hadn't bought her any for awhile before the puking incidents. so i don't think it was that. but that's scary. she loves those, and she just finished one of them off over the weekend.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 6:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Jbean - They were just showing pictures of tiny dogs on Regis & Kellie and there were several little "Lolas" on there! Of course, none were as cute as her - unless one WAS her! LOL They're going for the biggest and smallest and they said they'll have the results tomorrow - biggest is over 200 lbs.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 6:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
BTW - Any news on Moonie's dog? I hope, I hope!!

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 6:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Love the pics of Oscar, Jasper! He is so amazing and so beautiful!!

Oh Moonie, I am so sorry!! Hopefully, you've found him!

Wow! We've never used the greenies and I'm so glad! I will pass along the information.

Cami has a show this weekend in Ohio and then she's home on Tuesday morning. We've been having many issues with our Indy breeder, so after we finally get Cams back, Thekid will take over and I am leaving all associations with Sussex to her! It's been an incredibly long four years of politics and snobbishness that I just can't and won't deal with. Moral of the story...if you chose to buy a rarebreed dog, think TWICE!

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 5:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasper a private message Print Post    
Thanks Kstme, he is my little boo bear!

I think politics and snobbiness runs rampant in most clubs, I know my mom and dad have experience it to the extent dad wanted to quit, but mom loves to show and they are still breeding their betch, the boys have both been fixed.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 9:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Watching, at first I was thinking, A 200 lb Chihuahua??? Ay Chihuahua!!

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 8:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
The problems do NOT have to do with showing, thankfully. They have to do with a breeder taking advantage of Thekid! We may end up in court, but we're hoping it won't come down to that. I never realized 'what' an airhead this person is or we would have NEVER sent Cami or Norm to her. She has connived, lied, not paid for her portion of Norm and somehow managed to make herself co-owner of both dogs when she should ONLY be co-owner of Norm...AFTER he's been paid for. It's been VERY ugly!! Right now, we are hoping the registration will come to us for Norman and if it does, we can refrain from giving her this information until everything is sorted out. It's a huge mess and my blood pressure is through the roof! Thekid made both our English breeder and myself back off until AFTER Cami arrives next week and then SHE is going after the Indy breeder for either Norm or payment. Payment will be with the understanding and stipulation that she STILL OWNS 2/3 of him, she will be able to retain possession of him at later date when she is living on her own. I never thought buying an animal would cause this much grief!

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 10:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
LOL Sea!!!

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 6:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Some fantastic news to report on the Sussex b!tch who was accidentally sold to the puppymill person. The breeder HAS gotten her BACK!! :-)

Saxywildcat
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05-30-2005

Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 7:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saxywildcat a private message Print Post    
OMG I have missed a lot. Here and in the cat thread.. LOL Kstme, that is great to hear about the breeder getting the sussex back!

I hope that things get sorted out quickly with Cami and Norm. I will be thinking of you all. Keep us posted!

Taterheadtwo
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09-29-2005

Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Taterheadtwo a private message Print Post    
is there any chance the humane soceity could go check out that puppy mill make, sure its clean and healthy, dont get me wrong i love pets, but i fear 70 % of the population when they get mad are tired of pets, they abandon them, which is so wrong, i have 3 indoor cats, and where i live in apartments i see strays all the time, and it just sadens me. i dont know if its taught in public schools, but i wish in the ealier grades they would teach about pet responsibility, if you take one in it shoud be for life, and to do your best to groom, feed and shelter that pet,

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Taterhead, I wish that too.

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 8:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Tater, the puppy mill is in a state that considers dog 'stock' and puppy mills are NOT against the law nor frowned upon. If you can believe this??? It makes my blood boil! This state doesn't like liars, though and this guy lied. He was also running for state legislature and the owner of the b!tch threatened to expose his lying (he may have done so) AND that made ALL the difference!

I, also, agree with you regarding pet education!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 9:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
That's great news, Kstme

And you or they might try reporting the puppy mill to the AKC, assuming they are selling AKC registered puppies. If nothing else the reports will add to others or, if they aren't keeping good records, they could lose privileges to register.

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Monday, November 21, 2005 - 1:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Sea, no, he and his mother are NOT selling AKC registered pups. The 'breeding' dogs are registered, however and he shows them in the South. His pups are mostly crossbreeds...very scary! THIS is where a whole lot of those 'designer' dogs come from!

We're holding our breath until early tomorrow morning, but Cami IS booked to fly home! She did pick up a point this last weekend. rah, rah, sis, boom, bah

Now, I've got to tell you...Thekid was facing a MAJOR medical situation that was resolved last week. She will be fine, but we were all very terrified she wouldn't be. When she asked for Cami to come home, during this crisis, the Indy breeder wouldn't send her because of the show???!!! This was the beginning of all the problems we have and are still having with this breeder!!

I, also, found out that when Thekid sent Norm and Cami back to Indy, she sent BOTH sets of papers back with the dogs! THAT'S how the Indy breeder was able to make herself co-owner of BOTH dogs! I guess the Indy breeder talked Thekid into signing on Cami's papers by telling her that it would be 'easier' to show her, if she was co-owner. THEN, when we asked for Cami back, the breeder, who HADN'T signed nor sent ANY paperwork into the AKC, DID sign and send both in Friday before last!! AFTER she knew we were bringing Cami back and it was a moot point! Thekid PAID FULL PRICE for Cami!! The Indy breeder is not offering any money towards her and STILL has not paid for Norm! The topper on this...the Indy breeder doesn't understand 'why' we are upset?!?!

I just want some peace and quiet. I want this whole situation to end. AND, I am sorry for rambling on...

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, November 21, 2005 - 3:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I completely understand (I've been in co-ownerships on dogs I bred, and dogs the co-owner bred and luckily my second mentor-breeder also taught me about good contracts.. not that any of that would stop someone who was being devious and untrustworthy. One co-owner who has two or three b!tches from me.. we actually kept the co-ownership going past the required one litter in the contract at her request and I was happy to agree, so we had three litters together from one of the moms and shared the expenses and rewards and I was there for the deliveries too. By the time we'd been through one litter we each knew we were easy to get along with, willing to listen to each other in choosing a stud dog and in how we would take care of the pups, what we wanted for owners, etc.

Heck ramble on all you want and most important.. I'm SO happy TheKid's medical situation worked out favorably!!! Hope Cami is home soon and that the registration is worked out ..

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Monday, November 21, 2005 - 4:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Sea, I would say 'most' of the co-ownerships in the Sussex world are very successful. Most of the breeders realize, you have to get along because of the small gene pool. You have had great experiences and I do know of others who have had the same. To my knowledge, the Indy breeder has never been a co-owner before! There are NO contracts with any of 'our' dogs. We're learning the hard way, not to be as trusting as we thought we could.

The truly sad part is, she holds an elected position on the SSCA Board. You'd think she'd be extra careful not to do something as stupid as sending Cami's paperwork through? I'm not sure if Thekid can have Indy's name removed without the Indy's permission. Thekid is(was) the primary owner. Boy, are we hoping Norm's papers come to us, first!! They should because the only thing Indy was supposed to do on the Foreign Registry was SIGN her name...NO ADDRESS! Indy says she has friends in the AKC who are pushing Norm's papers through quickly. <huh?> We wonder 'what' else she's done? Van, our English breeder. is pushing for Thekid to get Norm back, also and that may happen sooner than later. It's such a flippin' mess!

Thanks for caring! I rambled again...

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    


I also posted this in 'Passings'.

Sam was a three time winner in the Ugliest Dog In The world contest, which he won this year also. He passed away yesterday at age 14.

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 2:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Poor Sam :-(

Cami IS HOME! We picked her up around 11 this morning. She is still adjusting and I'm not sure what's happened, but she is VERY timid! She has never been that way before. Sometimes shy, but not timid. We are taking it slow with Oliver because he is being a brat! Things will work themselves out and I am so very thankful to have her back where she belongs. Thekid and I bawled our heads off when we picked her up.

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
Good news Kstme! Now to get Stormin' Norman back and I know that will happen.

These dogs really take over our lives don't they? I can't believe it but I just gave up a Hawaii trip so I can stay home with "the girls". Made our reservations etc and I have backed out. My DH has a job over there and will only be gone 2 weeks but I just couldn't leave them that long. Lucee has never even been a nite away from us...she was a year on July 4th. I should not even be admitting this except I think you guys will understand!

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 8:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
LOL, Supergranny, I totally understand! :-)

We're fairly sure Cami was crated the whole time she was with the breeder. Only let out to do her business. The change in her is indescribable and my heart just bleeds for her. We know we can turn her around and she will be a happy camper, again, but OMG this is so sad. She is starving for attention! Cams is one of the sweetest dogs I have EVER known in my life! What a guilt trip we are all feeling about what's happened to her. :-(

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
A few hours later...

Ms. Cams is finally starting to get her bearings and is interacting with both Mags and Oliver...REALLY WELL!!:-) She went into her old crate that Mags and Ollie use when they are in trouble. She sniffed around, did some re-decorating, came out and hit Mags on the nose! All three went outside and played for a bit. They are all happily together in the family room! :-) Cams has grinned from 10 this morning and hasn't stopped! She still won't do the stairs, but that should happen in a few days.

We're still very sure that she was crated the whole time she was in Indy. Partly due to being in heat and partly because the Indy breeder doesn't have a clue!

I'm so thankful we have our little girl home!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 5:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Good thing. Cams being home.

Sillycalimomma
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11-13-2003

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 9:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sillycalimomma a private message Print Post    
wow it took me nearly 30 minutes to catch up in here! Yay that Cami is home!

We have this tiny little chair that used to be dd when she was a toddler. Well, Bubba Dub seems to think it is "his" chair. I caught a few pictures today while he was sitting in it. I just love this little guy to death he is sooooooo sweet-he has really been a true blessing to this family even with all his quirks!




Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 6:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
KSTME, thank goodness you guys rescued Cami. Hope she settles in quickly. Glad to hear the three of them are buds again! So sad that an actual breeder would treat a dog like that (crating them so often.) Hope Norman gets released soon!

Silly, Buddy is such a cute pup-thanks for the pictures!