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Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
OK good more national address... stop talking and do something!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Yes, last night when other non Superdome evacuees started showing up, they didn't know what to do cause they were afraid that they wouldn't have room for the Superdome people....wouldn't that have been awful for those poor people to finally get out of the Superdome and have no room here! Now, they realize that they can hopefully accomodate all. San Antonio is going to be taking alot of people in too.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
also Max, they did put people in the Superdome, knowing not everyone could get out. They estimated that they would only need to be in the dome for 3 days... as was the hospitals saying they knew they would be fine for 3 days, then they would need fuel for generators, food supplies, \

Many, many people and workers expected help to be able to get to NO (and other areas) in 3 days... and it hasnt. They were showing reporters in the Gulf coast of MS that still had no help, no water, they werent as in dire shape as the pictures from NO... but still, nothing is not acceptable

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Houston officials are recognizing, and they have the power of communication to start working to devise a plan to absorb the refugees... it feels good to see people doing something!!

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
the pictures from the convention center, it is mind boggling, thousands of people, but look at them, they are calm, they are not panicking, they are just waiting, asking for water... for milk, for babies...

where are they?

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
"isolated pockets" from the general when asked about is it fast enough, or enough help? He thinks that only isolated areas are not getting help, everything else is getting help?

Here comes the mayor of San Antonio, the calvary is around!!

Max
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08-12-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
San Antionio Mayor is now offering space for evacuees.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
jinx Max!!

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
"isolated pockets" of THOUSANDS of people. Oh man that made my blood boil..............

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Now will someone explain to me how the new bankruptcy laws will effect this? How can people get jobs to pay mortgages, car loans, credit card bills... etc...

Lkunkel
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10-29-2003

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lkunkel a private message Print Post    
Did you hear about the woman who shoved her baby into another woman's arms who was on the bus and asked her to take her baby to keep her alive? That she would try to find her again.

This is just sad.

myicon

They have until September 30th to file bankruptcy.

Spygirl
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04-23-2001

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
Starting yesterday, Wichita began loading semis with supplies to head to the affected areas. The first full semi left about 2 hours ago, the second one will be sent shortly. A local TV station is running a round-the-clock effort all across town at local grocery stores.

I am embarrassed and disappointed by so many of the things related to this disaster, but I'm proud and uplifted by others. I am not embarrassed to be American.


Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Homeland security is talking, we rescued 3,000 people... and how many are dying bcause you cant get them water?

At the convention center they are chanting "we want help now" for the cameras...

Max
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08-12-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
NOw we have the HOmeland Security guy talking about the prepositioning of resources and how that allowed them to speed the delivery of supplies to the area. WHERE??????

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
The scary part is how they plan on distributing the "supplies" pre positioning the necessary supplies, pouring addtl supples, more MRE's, ok, so why doesnt any of the news video see or hear any of this? Not the hospitals, not the convention centers, not the superdome, tell me where are these "prepositioning" of supplies have gone...

Lkunkel
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10-29-2003

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lkunkel a private message Print Post    
According to the military guy on CNN right now, the media isn't showing pictures of military on the ground who are doing things.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I an not embarrassed to be an American, I am embarrassed by the double speak those in government are saying, and the lack of distributing plain WATER. They dont seem to see the little picture of water, because they are trying to take care of the BIG picture...

All I know is what I hear, and see. Last night a doctor from Chicago stranded at a 'convention' in the French Quarter (Hyatt?) he told of the doctors treating people, and the horrors of what he saw in the superdome, he seemed totally shell shocked.

He says the superdome is secure. According to the doctor at least 2 people jumped to their death, when the roof opened up, panic ensued as they ran for higher ground. There was looting going on in the dome, and raping, in the dome, but the secretary doesnt want us to think this is unsecure.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
The media can only show pictures of where they are, they are where thousands of people are with nothing... the cnn reporter says he had to get these pictures out, we need to see this, and he is right, maybe the natl guard cant communicate, and the news media can get the pictures out, and help can come if they now know of this "Isolated Pocket"

Lkunkel
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10-29-2003

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lkunkel a private message Print Post    
The Mayor of San Antonio is actually making the most sense of any politician I've heard today.

Reader: I agree. Just repeating what the talking head said.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I think they are really smart, keep us focused on the "BIG" picture, keep us focused on his words on how they will plan on helping etc..

that way we cant see the pictures of NOW, and the help that isnt getting to those "isolated" pockets...

keep talking so we dont see the pictures of the fire in the housing project with people still in them while they are in a stand down.

keep talking, they will arrive in the next 24 hours... keep talking...

Kaili
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08-31-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 11:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
I do think the media show the worst they can find. They're newspeople, but they're a business and it's all about getting and retaining viewers on their station. They all need to out do each other and people seem to watch more of the bad than the good.

Spygirl
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04-23-2001

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
I am a Mary Kay Consultant, and the notice I just got from the company makes me proud:

In the legacy of Mary Kay’s giving heart, we also want you to be the first to know that we will donate $1 million to aid in hurricane relief efforts. Please understand that we are still working on the details of this and other relief effort plans, and will post information as soon as we have it....<snip>


Kaili
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08-31-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
UPS has this posted on our employee website along with various info about hotlines for affected employees, closed facilities, and impacted zip codes...

*The UPS Foundation is providing more than $1.25 million in aid to the impacted communities; $500,000 in cash for immediate relief and up to $750,000 of in-kind donations for assisting organizations active in the disaster response.

*We are establishing ways to assist impacted UPS people, including such things as benefits, and the establishment of a fund to which any UPSer can donate to assist other employees.

Max
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08-12-2000

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
THe Bush administration is now denying that FEMA told the rescue workers to stand down in the wake of violence.

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 11:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
I am just coming back to this thread after taking a break for a day. I have CNN on now--tuned into the middle of a news conference. Just starting to hear about air national guardsmen and women coming from every single state to the area.

Now Coast Guard operations --a report on what they have been doing, to date. Foremost duty: Search and rescue. Delivering food and water. Secondary duty: Ensure safety of oil rigs, etc.

I see people lined up on a sidewalk outside a the convention center. These people believe they are waiting there for help. Sounds as if a rumor has motivated their assembly there. Gawd. Hope it is true. I see a woman holding a tissue full of blood to her nose. Kid crying. Man yelling at camera. Old women and men looking tired and hopeless. People fanning themselves in the heat.


It doesn't help at this juncture to point fingers at how and why this happened, but I still say that the decades of administration in New Orleans did not address the problem by forecasting a 'worst case scenario' given their unique situation geographically---and then ensuring that whatever engineering needed to be done was done. There HAD to have been engineers warning the city over decades that they were in for a potential disaster unless they did x, y, z.

So, putting that aside (realizing budget constraints affect decision-making), the issue becomes how to address the current situation. And that includes critiquing what has been done so far. Unlike many of you, I don't look to Bush as the source of the problem. Just as you find in any corporation, the doers and shakers in getting things done are those behind the scenes.

I hold the mayors responsible. These are their people. And they need to fight to get what is needed for 'their' folks. So glad to see Texas opening their arms to help out. Now that's what I expect of us in this country.

The problem with getting water and food to people is indefensible. Besides having every single vehicle going into the area carry in water and food, we could be doing air drops of bundles of food and water--just as we do in war time.

Watching people die in front of you?! I cannot fathom what this is doing to psyche of some of these people, including children.

And now, the disease and sickness (beyond those chronically ill and needing care) is going to hit big time. All these people wading through this polluted water is going to lead to illness--which could rip through the mass of people trapped there.

I wish I could be there to help in some way. I have been getting so much hope from reading Ddr's posts. So glad she is where she is, doing what she does. She's the kind of person I'd hope to encounter in such a situation.

I have sent money to the Red Cross and the ASPCA.