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Karuuna
Board Administrator

08-31-2000

Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 3:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ryan, I am so sorry for the losses you are dealing with. I've always been sad to have never had the opportunity to get to know my own grandparents, so it really chokes me up when I hear of folks losing theirs. You are so right that people need to appreciate it while they can. Bless your heart for being so wise; and even if you don't have spiritual answers, you can be so grateful for the blessing they have been to for the time they were here.

Halfunit
Moderator

09-02-2001

Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 3:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    


Jmm
Moderator

08-16-2002

Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 4:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ryan, I'm so sorry for your loss and all that you and your family are going through right now. Please know that if there is anything that we can do, we're only a click away. {{{{Ryan and family}}}}

Babyruth
Member

07-19-2001

Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 7:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
((((Ryan and family))))

Twinkie
Member

09-24-2002

Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 9:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm so sorry for your loss, Ryan.

Juju2bigdog
Member

10-27-2000

Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 10:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
{{{Ryan}}} Thanks for thinking to come update us. So sorry for your loss.

Lumbele
Member

07-12-2002

Monday, August 22, 2005 - 6:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
(((Ryan))), I am so sorry for your loss. My condolences to you and your family.

Serenity
Member

06-28-2005

Monday, August 22, 2005 - 9:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sorry to hear of your loss.

Kswheels
Member

06-30-2005

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 12:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This is a late update, most of you won't see it until morning. I called the nurse on the hospice floor at 1 AM central time. 11 PM Big Brother time. Resting comfortably. Making little noises, but otherwise... My parents' phone rang about 30 minutes later. I didn't worry. I'd just called. Well... My mom just came in at 2:15 AM. She has gone into a coma. Since I'm a late nighter anyway mom has told me to call again at 2:45, then 3:15, then 3:45....etc until I go to bed or dad heads to the hospital.

Will update when I know something new.



And thanks again guys.

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 4:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My heart is with you, Ryan. I know your heart is heavy, but I trust that you will find the strength to get through this difficult time. I am sure your parents are devastated and will never forget the part you play in helping them through their grief even while struggling with yours.

Kaili
Member

08-31-2000

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 5:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Awww Ryan, I'm so sorry you're going through this- especially so close together. It's hard enough to lose just one.

Buttercup
Member

07-16-2005

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 6:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ryan, I am so so sorry for the hard times you are going through

Wink
Member

10-06-2000

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 6:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ryan you are a great guy and I am betting your grandparents have always been very proud of you. Sending positive thoughts of comfort and caring for you and your family.

Callasin
Member

06-21-2005

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ryan I wish I knew something better to say than I'm sorry that would ease your pain a little. I am sure your presence and love were very comforting to your grandparents during these past days. I will be praying for you and your parents and sending positive thoughts your way.

Jewels
Member

09-23-2000

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm sorry, Ryan. I have been there...it isn't fun. It sounds like you are a great source of strength for your parents also. I will be thinking of you and your family.

Cher
Member

08-18-2004

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
((((Ryan)))) ((((Family))))

Retired
Member

07-11-2001

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sending prayers, Ryan. Hang in there.

Kswheels
Member

06-30-2005

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Update: She is talking....to people who aren't there. I had read that kidney failure can lead to dementia but I had hoped she would go before it got to that.

My parents said she doesn't seem upset....Just kind of reliving her life, so I guess that's ok. Creepy maybe, but ok.

Will update again when I hear something new.

Kaili
Member

08-31-2000

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 1:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ryan, my boyfriend's dad experienced kindney failure before he went...my mom (she's an ICU nurse) did say that it does cause dementia because of the chemicals in the body. At the same time though, they give enough drugs at that point where it's not painful and they actually are quite happy. Are you going to see her, or does she not live near you, or...?

Take care, okay?



Kswheels
Member

06-30-2005

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I've been every day except today to see her. I'm just not sure I can handle seeing her like that.

Thanks for the info.

As for keeping her comfortable...I won't start. I'll just say that they had her on morphine and my aunt made them put her back on Lortabs because she was "outside her head" last night. Which...compared to today, she was downright coherent.

Whatever. Hopefully the doctor talked some sense into her.

Thanks guys.

Ryan

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, Ryan, I don't know much about Lortabs, but I am familiar with morphine for pain (used during 3 surgeries and even if my last hospitalization last month). Really works--no pain at all. You do have wild, surrealistic dreams. But they weren't unhappy dreams. They were just wild.

Kswheels
Member

06-30-2005

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 1:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm familiar with both and you're right. But she is in her final hours. Does it matter at this point if she is a little out of it or even sleeping? I guess I just don't understand my aunt's complaint.

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 1:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Right. I agree with you. When my dh's mom died (under hospice care at home) and when his dad died in the hospital (a few years later) they were both given morphine. I think that is pretty typical. My maternal grandfather (who used to be a state cop many years ago) 'drove' his car (hands up, grasping an invisible steering wheel--motions and all) when he was on his deathbed in the hospital--also on morphine.

But don't get into it with your aunt--if the Lortabs are as effective. Not worth the bad feelings that will come later over arguing about this decision. Now if the efficacy of the Lortabs is questionable--given your aunt's condition, that's another thing.

(My dh and his siblings STILL have hard feelings over certain things that happened when their mom was so sick. So try to stay out of all that if you are satisfied she is adequately medicated.)

Kaili
Member

08-31-2000

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
How does your dad feel about all of this- or is it set up so the decisions about her are your aunt's? I'm thinking as long as she's comfortable- that's the most important thing.

Kswheels
Member

06-30-2005

Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Haven't seen her today so not sure on comfort. Dad's reaction is kind of...whatever. He thinks she should be on the morphine but has bigger fish to fry, so to speak.

Herckleperckle - Was death via kidney failure fairly peaceful? I mean at the very end.I've heard it is but just want to confirm.