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Maris
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03-28-2002

Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 5:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What does Natalie Portman have against having hair on her head?

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 6:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I heard she shaved her head for a movie.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 6:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maris, she shaved her head for a role (V for Vendetta). You can google her and see other pix. I think she shaved in April or May. I don't know how long shooting will go, or whether she's just enjoying the liberating feeling.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 6:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ok its just that everytime I see her she is bald.

Wargod
Moderator

07-16-2001

Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 12:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I heard an interview she did, or maybe read it? that after the Star Wars movies and all the hairstyles with that, being required to shave her head was liberating. (Or something like that, lol.)

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
In regards to Ms. Oprah at Hermes:


There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold
And she's buying a stairway to heaven
And when she gets there she knows if the stores are closed
With a word she can get what she came for


And she's buying a stairway to heaven




Lyn
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08-07-2002

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 8:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good one, Escapee

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 8:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm not saying she's right, but she knows that Hermes has a reputation for opening for celebrities after hours. And she's probably also heard (and I've heard it many times) that the French are prejudiced against Blacks. So she probably put the two together, erroneous or not.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I heard they were closed for repairs. It was funny though, this weekend Stairway to Heavan came on the radio, and that first verse was Oprah to a T IMHO.

BTW...isn't there a large black population in France, or am I mistaken?

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 8:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was just reading that Oprah will not comment on anything that has happened but it saving it for a show next season. She will be having "Crash" shows about prejudice. (As in the movie Crash) Hermes has said that they have it all on video which no one has seen yet.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 8:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Does anyone remember the cartoon she had featured on her show (I think it was a michael moore cartoon) a while back about whites and prejudices? I had only heard how appalling it was, but never actually saw it. I would like to.

Max
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08-12-2000

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 9:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Escapee, I think you're referring to a clip she showed from Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 911 documentary. There's a very amusing and poignant animation sequence talking about race relations in the United States. You might want to rent the movie and watch. I think it's about a 3-minute segment.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 9:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Is it the one where it shows the indians, then the blacks, etc. etc?

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I really don't get that lil diddy and then again I don't think I want to.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the cartoon was very good. Not appalling at all. (The past behavior of white men, however, has been appalling.)

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Like I said, I haven't seen it, but I had only heard about it.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The cartoon was from Moore's Bowling for Columbine and discussed the rise of the KKK and gun control legislation, particularly the NRA's stance again gun control. It was called "The History of White People in America" IIRC.

As for the charge that the French are prejudiced against Blacks...well, I think that would come as a surprise to Josaphine Baker, James Baldwin, the huge conglomeration of American jazz musicians who lived in Paris (and still do) because they found France to be a relief from the racism they experience in the US, and the founders of Africa's "Negritude" movement like Leopold Senghor, Aimé Césaire, etc. Unlike one country I can think of, France never enslaved Blacks as a class, never codified those who were enslaved as 3/5 a person in the constitution, never fought a civil war because half the nation thought enslaving Blacks as a class was worth the loss of life, never established Jim Crow laws after that civil war that kept Blacks second class citizens as a class, never held public lynchings, and all Blacks in France have had voting rights for many many years; it is not something, like some places, that only happened in the last 40 years when a Voting Rights Act was passed despite great contention by legislators in certain areas of the nation, etc.

That is not to say France is free of racism, because that certainly is not the case. Many in France discriminate against Jews and against Arabs for a variety of reasons I wouldn't want to address. Happily, we don't see discrimination against Jews and Arabs here! Also, some French discriminate against Africans (many of whom are from former French colonies like Senegal, the Central African Republic, Benin, etc.) because they are believed, often inaccurately, to be illegal immigrants; indeed, a small political party in France is strongly nationalist and advocates a varity of measures against illegal immigrants and illegal immigration. Again, happily we never hear Americans or thier politicians railing against that issue.

I was rather shocked to hear Oprah say she was mistaken for a North African and that is why Hermes didn't allow her into the store. I knew a fair number of North Africans when I lived in Paris and I can tell you that Ms. Winfrey doesn't look like any one of them.

Max
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08-12-2000

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That's right, Tish. I get my Michael Moore movies mixed up! :-)

Prejudice exists everywhere; it just plays out differently in different places. For some reason, it seems to be human nature to want to have a villain to blame things on and it's easiest to pick someone who looks or acts markedly different than the predominant cultural norm.

I agree that Oprah looks about as much North African as I do. I think the whole thing is trumped up to help her cover her embarrassment at her own social faux pas and to provide some "buzz" for the upcoming new series of shows she's planning. There may also be a healthy dose of press spin in there where a few facts got picked up and mis-categorized and then the whole thing got blown out of proportion.

Frankly, I think it's probably just another incident for the French to look at the Americans and just shake their heads in disbelief.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No one is saying it's necessarily the 'French', just Hermes. And why is it so hard to believe? Cause she's a star? Cause most establishments would open back up for a few moments for rich clientel(sp)? Or cause they won't? But we know that they do.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree that cartoon from Bowling for Columbine was awfully funny.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought I'd read above that the French are prejudiced against Blacks and that's what I responded to.

It's certainly possible that Oprah faced racism at Hermes; it's also possible that Hermes, as they contend, were preparing for an event and that the store wasn't open to anyone when she arrived. But she and Gayle have decided upon their narrative--a "Crash" moment indeed! It makes a banal movie even more banal. Anyhow, I think that even celebs (or their representatives) call ahead when they want to go to a store off-hours.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Martha Stewart Reveals Her Prison Nickname link

Martha Stewart says in a new interview that her nickname in prison was M. Diddy, that house arrest is “hideous” and that her prosecution was about bringing her down “to scare other people.” [...]

really. who could make this up?

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 5:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Please, required reading for this thread: Vanity Fair's August 2005 issue! (TC & Martha)



Kaili
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Angelina Jolie Adopting Ethiopian Girl

ADDIS ABABA, Ethiopia - Angelina Jolie, who has been romantically linked with her "Mr. & Mrs. Smith" co-star Brad Pitt, is adopting an orphaned Ethiopian baby girl.

Jolie visited the Horn of Africa nation last week to file her adoption request, accompanied by Pitt and her 3-year-old son, Maddox, whom she adopted in Cambodia, an official said Wednesday.

"The paperwork has gone through. Miss Angelina's request was accepted last week," Hadosh Halefom, head of the country's state-run adoption agency, told The Associated Press.

The child "is less than a year old," Hadosh said, refusing to elaborate. The actress filed her request through a private adoption agency.

"If people's paperwork is in order, it can take only two days to finalize everything," Hadosh said.

In a posting on People magazine's Web site, Jolie is quoted as saying the child's name is Zahara Marley Jolie and that she and Maddox are "very happy to have a new addition to our family."

....more....

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This is fun.

Prince Albert acknowledges child

Princess Caroline must be having a fit, since her son would be next in line to the throne as it stands now. (I know they're not Hollywood, but their mom sure was, so they ARE Hollywood royalty, as well as the real deal).