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Archive through August 10, 2005

The TVClubHouse: General Discussions ARCHIVES: 2005 Jun. ~ Aug.: The Future of TVCH: Who and What's New: Archive through August 10, 2005 users admin

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Rosie
Member

11-12-2003

Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL, SEA. I thought that Wanted Poster was a riot. Half made the poster didn't she?

Twiggyish
Member

08-14-2000

Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Excellent post Gal!

Yeah what about bumper stickers?

Jbean
Member

01-05-2002

Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 8:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
GAL, that was a great post. i totally agree with you. i have been on un-moderated boards before, and some of them, quite frankly, scare the hell out of me. lol

oh and love the new blue background...very cool!


Jimmer
Member

08-30-2000

Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I like it that the board is moderated and I was very happy to see the full list of moderators. We are very lucky to have them. Unmoderated boards are a circus. It only takes a few crazy people to make it miserable for everyone.

(OOPS! Are we allowed to talk about mods?)

Karuuna
Board Administrator

08-31-2000

Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 8:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
GAL - and one for Colossus too, just 'cause!

Seamonkey
Moderator

09-07-2000

Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 9:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks, GAL!! and those who followed, too.

Jimmer, no one every minds kind words, or chocolate!!

Twinkie
Member

09-24-2002

Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 9:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
GAL, eloquent words as always. I've been modded many times before and I'm sure I will be again, but let me say that I wouldn't have it any other way. My good friend, Chris, belongs to a political message board that is not moderated and its a very scary place. People get so worked up they threaten to track others down and hurt them. TVCH is like home to me and I've met several of the mods and they are kind, smart folks who dedicate a large part of their time to keeping our home a safe place to come to. They have my total respect and gratitude. Thanks for all you do, Mods/Owners.

Juju2bigdog
Member

10-27-2000

Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 11:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    

quote:

We are in good hands. The rules of moderation are for our own and for each others' good and for the good of the Board. No one is in a better position to determine what that "good" is than the moderators.




Hey, GAL, what say we mosey on over to the Hair thread and discuss which are the best hair styles to cover lobotomy scars?



Pamy, I think you are in for a BIG run for your money on that poster of the month award ... I'm just saying ...

Sage
Member

07-20-2000

Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 11:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Funny thing about the blue - I use Firefox for browsing, but there are some sites I preferred to use IE for, and this place is one of them because I liked the white background. Well now since it's going to be blue in IE then I might as well just use my trusty, loveable Firefox for TVCH.

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 7:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Gal you are such a suck up lol. Of course I disagree with you as I don't have as sunny a relationship as you.

Jasper
Member

09-14-2000

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'd like to wish Neil the best of luck in all his endeavours and thank you all for taking on the TVCH. (and I love the new background)

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't have ANY issues with moderating, btw. That's why I came to this board, too.

I do, however, disagree about many things you said, GAL.

I maintain we ARE customers. This place wouldn't exist without us. It is here to serve us, and when we agree to basic rules and behave in a civilized manner, it is the kind of place I want to call home.

I am addressing a tone issue--which should be one of respect, kindness and courtesy. When set by Admin and practiced without fail by mods, it will be modeled by all members. If it is not apparent in all Mod and Admin communications, then TVCH is not the home I want. I think that is a fair expectation.

And I think a democratic rule here is very important. We are not children here. We are reasonable, civilized people who can have differing opinions. The right to question the value of a rule (if done in a civilized, respectful manner) should not be curtailed.

I am merely bringing this up to address these concerns, not to attack anyone, for heavens sake.

Comments on previous instances of moderation have been removed from the above post. It is still a rule that one cannot comment publicly on specifics. Thank you for understanding. ModND

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 1:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    

quote:

We are in good hands. The rules of moderation are for our own and for each others' good and for the good of the Board. No one is in a better position to determine what that "good" is than the moderators.




I'm sorry but that makes it seem like the people here are children that have to be parented and spanked when you get out of line.

I also agree with Hp that we are the 'customers'. Like the gov and non-profit agencies have customers. Without said customers then what would be the purpose of this board?

Just my as anyone who knows me knew I had to say something lol.

And I'm as profane as you are Gal lol. Probably why we get along.

Spygirl
Board Administrator

04-23-2001

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I appreciate that you both feel comfortable sharing your thoughts. Believe it or not, that's important to me.

Speaking as a member, not as a moderator, it seems that the board has done great things over the last 5 years with virtually the same rules in place, virtually the same moderating team in place, and with improvements whenever feasible. Every year, we have more and more people who stay after Big Brother is over. We all seem to find what works for us (as GAL alluded to) and what doesn't (as both HP and Mocha have alluded to). Frankly, that's one of the best parts of this board for me. Not everyone has to agree!

Now, speaking as a moderator, that means realizing that not everyone will agree with me, my actions, or the actions of the moderator group. We do our best to be as consistent as humanely possible (realizing we are all flawed by default :-) ). Despite our best efforts, however, not everyone will find this place to be the one "for them". That is absolutely expected - and a decision that is to be respected.

Above all, I think there is little disagreement over one thing - we will never be able to alter the rules, get rid of the rules, or do things "just so" to make everyone happy. If that was our goal as moderators, I'm afraid we would kill ourselves trying to achieve the impossible.

The best we can do is make the most people happy as possible, and continue to move the board forward into the future as best as we know how.

ETA: I sincerely hope that my post comes out in the soft tone in which I intended it.



Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 1:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Very fuzzy Spy. :-)

Uh I'm not flawed, just drawn that way.

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Spy, the tone was lovely!

I think, however, the meat of your post skirts or misses my concerns. Moreover, more or less stating that "these rules have served us well for over X years, young'un, so how dare you question the way we do things around these here parts?" does little for me.

Simply stated, my suggestions are that:

1. All admin and mods should communicate with courtesy, kindness and respect--at all times. Without fail. (And I guess that means creating some kind of internal communications policy.)

2. When Serious (with a capital S) issues arise, where there is serious disagreement about a "final" decision, I am questioning the policy of accepting the decision period, or getting out. I think there has to be another avenue. I was suggesting re-evaluating that policy in these (hopefully, rare) instances.

Twiggyish
Member

08-14-2000

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I for one have NEVER been moderated

I can see both sides of this issue and see the points from both sides. Good to be able to discuss them. I'm just glad the board will continue on. I'd truly miss everyone.

Goddessatlaw
Member

07-19-2002

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Heh. ~Holds nose and goes to garage to retrieve garbage bag poncho~

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey, let's get a special symbol by our names indicating if we've ever been modded or not. Kinda like ebay ratings. Different color stars depending on how often it happens.

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Miss you, too, Twigs. I am glad the Board will continue, too.

Inside jokes are really fun. Want to share, Bob and GAL?

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh great then mine would be a nice long red line lol.