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Spygirl
Moderator
04-23-2001
| Monday, July 25, 2005 - 7:45 pm
It has been a long time since I've asked for your help with course planning, but I'm needing to integrate some short movie clips into a long lecture series I have to deliver next week during our "Intensive Week". I have three concepts below that I am looking for a clip from a movie - any movie - that will describe it. They are very dense concepts that I think they will better understand if I can show them clips. 1). homeostasis - this is the term used to describe how families/relationships tend to remain in a known, constant state. It is a bit like the thermostat on the A/C...the temperature will vary by a couple of degrees, but it seeks to remain at a constant temperature. In this instance, I'm looking for a clip that shows a couple (or family) either a) returning to a previous way of interacting even though they want to change, or b) returning to a previous way of interacting even though they have been influenced or affected by some outside stimulus. 2). Equifinality - this is the term used to describe how an end point/result/outcome/destination can be reached from any number of beginning points. It is sorta like the "all roads lead to Rome" idea. So, in this instance, I'm looking for a movie clip that depicts two or three different people who may begin at different points in life, but all end up in similar life situations. 3). Lastly, I'm looking for different communication styles between people. Not so much the language used, but more the volume, tone, etc. Specifically, I'm looking for two people who escalate one another. The louder one gets, the louder another gets. I'm then looking for a clear example of when someone gets louder and louder, the other person gets quieter and quieter. Silly, I know, but I'm at a loss! This is all I will post for now. I have about 4 or 5 other "situations" I'm looking for, but the above ones are more pressing. Also, I'm looking to avoid Parenthood since I use that entire movie in another class. Thank you to anyone who can help!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, July 25, 2005 - 7:48 pm
Maybe (crap can't think of the name. About 1980 with Mary Tyler Moore and Donald Sutherland where their son died and they try to live "normally" and the other son has a hard time...) Would that one work for the first one?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, July 25, 2005 - 7:50 pm
Not sure if this would work for number 3, but what about the scene in Steel Magnolias where Sally Field starts to cry softly and then starts getting louder and madder and then Oylmpia Dukakis tells her she'll feel better if she slugs Shirley MacLaine.... (might not fit, but it is a great scene!!!)
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Spygirl
Moderator
04-23-2001
| Monday, July 25, 2005 - 8:00 pm
Julie, I'd love to hear more about the first movie (I'm not sure which one you mean). Your example in Steel Magnolias is on the right track, though it doesn't quite fit. But I love your suggestion because I had forgotten about that scene! Keep 'em coming!
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Ddr
Member
08-19-2001
| Monday, July 25, 2005 - 8:11 pm
Spy, Julie is talking about Ordinary People. http://imdb.com/title/tt0081283/
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Ddr
Member
08-19-2001
| Monday, July 25, 2005 - 8:15 pm
For the third movie, I immediately thought of Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf. http://imdb.com/title/tt0061184/
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, July 25, 2005 - 8:17 pm
another scene I like (not sure where it would fit in, if at all) is the one in About Last Night where Demi Moore and Rob Lowe are fighting about mascara crumbs and tampon wrappers, but they right away figure out they are only fighting about the little things cuz they have bigger issues...
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, July 25, 2005 - 8:18 pm
Can't really remember LA Story very well, but is that one you could use for number 2. (But then you might have to use the whole movie..)
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Lucy
Member
10-08-2002
| Monday, July 25, 2005 - 8:22 pm
#3-The War of the Roses http://imdb.com/title/tt0098621/
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Monday, July 25, 2005 - 9:55 pm
tryinf to think of "clips" that would work versus whole movies... the deep end of the ocean has a couple good scenes after the family lost their youngest boy and the mother goes into withdrawl - the rest of the family tries to act normal at christmas but then i think the mother blows up - and there are a couple of loud exchanges between the mother and oldest boy who also hasnt coped with the disappearance of his brother - but i am sure there are better clips out there .... another may be Children of a Lesser God in the scene where William Hurt is playing the record and realizes he cant appreciate the music anymore because things have changed (because she cant hear the music( so its not normal anymore but then she comes and plays the music and asks him to play the music for her because she wants things to be normal for him again The Doctor, where William Hurt finally gets into a fight with his wife after a long silence, when recovering from an operation is good too - i have to go watch it on my video to remember details to see how loud it got but it was a memorable exchange also for #3 i also think there are a couple of scenes in Bed of Roses where one chaarcter gets mad and the other closes up .. and also the scenes in rebel without a cause when james dean is yelling at his parents are priceless - i just cant remember exactly to what extent the parents react (silence or yelling) - (i can look tomorrow) glory is a great depiction of different people ending up at the same place in life (dead on the battle field if you think about it) and its a telling message to see those various people all band together to fight for one cause and end up in the same place - BUT except for that last scene of the death and lying on top of each other i cant think of a good "clip" that would portray that as a whole remember the titans was cool too when they went around saying where everyone was from and these different kids ended up on the same place as one team.. safe passage with susan sarandon is another good movie about a family trying to stay normal while they fear one of the kids was killed in the Gulf War - i just cant remember specific scenes that would be good individually i will keep thinking
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Reiki
Member
08-12-2000
| Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 9:25 am
For #2 I thought of "The Breakfast Club". Plot outline from IMDb: Five high school students from completely different backgrounds meet in Saturday detention, and the results change their lives forever. They were five total strangers, with nothing in common, meeting for the first time. A brain, a beauty, a jock, a rebel and a recluse. Before the day was over, they broke the rules. Bared their souls. And touched each other in a way they never dreamed possible. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088847/
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Spygirl
Moderator
04-23-2001
| Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 9:37 am
Holy crap, Legal - you have a good memory for specific clips. I'm jealous of that! I can only think of entire movies - lol. Thank you everyone - I'm writing these down and heading to Blockbuster tomorrow. I realized this morning that I also have every season of Sex and the City, Friends, and some of the Will & Grace episodes on DVD. I need to review those and see if there are any scenes worthy of use. If anyone knows of any useful scenes in any of those shows, I could easily use those as well.
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 11:58 am
reiki - breakfast club is so perfect for the 5 strangers how could i miss that one ...the narration at the beginning or the end wraps it all together i think.... girl interrupted is a good movie about different people converging to the same point in life... and scene at a rehab clinic is good to see different people converge to the same place... umm so is wizard of oz if you think of Dorothy, Scarecrow, Tinman and The Cowardy Lion all coming from different places but seeking the same cure...
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 12:13 pm
I was watching the marathon of Good Times this weekend and there were plenty of instances with James and Florida arguing where he gets louder and louder. I just don't know which ep it would be though. p.s. Also for the first one may I suggest Spike Lee's Mo' Better Blues. The first scene shows Denzel's character as a young child having to practice his trumpet while his friends play outside and he can't join in and then in the end they show his son also practicing his instrument and the friends outside playing but then you see that Denzel allowed his son to stop practicing and join his friends.
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 12:33 pm
a couple more ideas... Lorenzo's Oil - which is a true story about a 7 year old who gets a rare disease and his parents are trying to do everything to save him - there are a couple of scenes where the parents meet with other parents - coming from different lives but with the same common issue of having a child (or other family member) with that disease and how they all deal with that... little man tate is also good - when they show all the different kids from different background converge onto the same school for geniuses .... and thinking about trying to stay normal, i thought about the scene in seacrhing for bobby fisher where the boy wants to be normal again - just wants to play ball and be a normal kid eventhough everyone knows he is not normal and has this great ability at chess ... and i want to say there is also a scene in there that has his "mentor" yell at him and he closes up with silence but i could be wrong ....(i did like when he was able to see the chess board after the fight and after the board was wiped clean but he started to stare at it empty and it all started to click but that may not fit into your 3 items) there is also a movie i only saw once called "Its My party" but its about all these different people coming to one party for someone who is about to die - i am not sure if it has specific clips to show the diversity and how everyone comes to the same place in life at that moment but just a thought ok, i will stop thinking now
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 3:02 pm
Legal, your last one made me think of The Big Chill.
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