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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 3:00 pm
That's really sad about Zabriski dropping out ... I wish he were supported more. He really seems like he has/had a great future on the tour. I hope he comes back strong, perhaps with another team.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 5:52 pm
Maybe Dave Z will be invited to join Team Discovery to help fill the void by Lance's retirement? 'squeek'
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 5:59 pm
he is only 26 so he has a lot of time to improve!! I am sure he will do great next year and in a few weeks will realize how special it was to have the yellow jersey for a few days
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 8:34 am
Lance Armstrong dictated a punishing pace Tuesday that destroyed his rivals and gave him the yellow jersey after Stage 10.
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Sillycalimomma
Member
11-13-2003
| Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 8:37 am
Yay!!!GO LANCE!!!!!!!
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 8:50 am
Overall Standings Through Stage 10 - Tuesday, July 12 Yellow Jersey Time 1. Lance Armstrong 37:11:04 2. Mickael Rasmussen :38 behind 3. Ivan Basso 2:40 4. Christophe Moreau 2:42 5. Alejandro Valverde 3:16 6. Levi Leipheimer 3:58 7. Francisco Mancebo 4:00 8. Jan Ullrich 4:02 9. Andreas Kloden 4:16 10. Floyd Landis 4:16
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 11:00 am
wow, Jan Ullrich is over 4 minutes behind???
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 3:07 pm
apparently t-mobile really fell apart today after their initial charge
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 5:39 pm
wow ... amazing ...
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 7:36 am
Armstrong keeps overall lead, loses teammate Lance Armstrong retained the yellow jersey Thursday but lost a teammate when Manuel Beltran crashed during the 12th stage Overall Standings Through Stage 11 - Wednesday, July 13 Yellow Jersey Time 1. Lance Armstrong 41:59:57 2. Mickael Rasmussen :38 behind 3. Christophe Moreau 2:34 4. Ivan Basso 2:40 5. Alejandro Valverde 3:16 6. Santiago Botero 3:47 7. Levi Leipheimer 3:58 8. Francisco Mancebo 4:00 9. Jan Ullrich 4:02 10. Andreas Kloden 4:16
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 2:26 pm
LOL, the other day, our local news was on. As they went to commercial, the anchor said something like, "coming up next, coverage of the Tour de France. Was Lance Armstrong able to reclaim the yellow jersey? Stay tuned and find out...." And the graphic displayed over the video of Lance said, "Lance Armstrong Reclaims Yellow Jersey!" Oops, I guess they let the cat out of the bag! I guess I don't have to stay tuned to find out now! 
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 3:59 pm
Overall Standings Through Stage 14 - Saturday, July 16 Yellow Jersey Time 1. Lance ARMSTRONG 55:58:17 2. Mickael RASMUSSEN 1:41 behind 3. Ivan BASSO 2:46 4. Jan ULLRICH 4:34 5. Levi LEIPHEIMER 4:45 6. Floyd LANDIS 5:03 7. Francisco MANCEBO 5:03 8. Andréas KLÖDEN 5:38 9. Alexandre VINOKOUROV 7:09 10. Christophe MOREAU 8:37 Lance Armstrong added more than a minute to his Tour de France lead on Saturday, finishing second in Stage 14. Armstrong placed second, 56 seconds behind Georg Totschnig, the first Austrian since 1931 to win a stage.
No one can out beat Lance - T-MObile attacked big time today, got Discovery all loose and behind them and isolated Lance without any support system as they climbed and he still beat all of them to the finish line and even extended his time on his rivals
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 5:29 pm
Thanks for the update, LB.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 7:52 pm
that was one heck of a run today. i just hope he didn't go too hard and has something left for the hills tomorrow. 'squeek' PS. i love OLN
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 9:30 pm
what the heck is the problem with his team?
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 9:26 am
Hincapie crowns great season with mountain win Lance Armstrong kept his overall lead and teammate George Hincapie won the 15th stage of the Tour de France on Sunday, the hardest day of climbing in the Pyrenees. The two friends beamed as they hugged each other after Armstrong finished more than five minutes behind his teammate. Armstrong gave a thumbs-up in reaction to the first stage win by one of his teammates since 1999. Overall Standings Through Stage 15 - Sunday, July 16 Yellow Jersey Time 1. Lance ARMSTRONG 62:09:59 2. Ivan BASSO 2:46 behind 3. Mickael RASMUSSEN 3:09 4. Jan ULLRICH 5:58 5. Francisco MANCEBO 6:31 6. Levi LEIPHEIMER 7:35 7. Floyd LANDIS 9:33 8. Alexandre VINOKOUROV 9:38 9. Christophe MOREAU 11:47 10. Andréas KLÖDEN 12:01
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 9:35 am
George definitely should be proud - first stage victory in TEN years of riding in the tour de france not to mention first stage victory by someone besides lance on his team since 1999 *except the team time trial victories) - and this is the hardest stage climb!!!! Yay George! (also have to comment that ... yeah what a "weak team" Discovery seems to be right now... they win the stage, hold on to the yellow and have the white jersey as well ) 
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 6:15 pm
but where were they yesterday when Lance was all alone needing them? and it happened last week, too. okay so now they have an individual winning a stage, lance is in front, and they won the team time trial, but where has been Lance's support?
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 8:55 pm
They have been there for lance almost the whole time... stage 8 and 14 were the only two bad days where they couldn’t keep pace and lance had to fight at the end on his own, which he did well both times - but after each of those bad days, the team has really come out charging the following day - stage 9 they set the pace the whole day and there is no question lance gave up the yellow on purpose that day in order to have rest on the rest day - all the contenders were kept at bay that day so discovery did their job. Stage 14 and 15 were even better since T-Mobile did the perfect attack and Discovery couldn’t stay along for the ride and yet lance still won out in the end and TMobile's attack was to no avail- and then today Discovery came out and protected Lance all the way to the point where he decided to break away with the first chase group and could out last Jan and Basso - and the reason George won today was not because the team told him to go try to win today - its because they decided to let him go in the initial breakaway group so that if there was a problem like yesterday, lance would have a teammate up front to be there to help him along ... but turns out everything was fine, and it got to the point where the initial breakaway group was far enough ahead to just win the sage so Discovery told George to go for it in the last 10 miles or so - and he finally got the chance to win the stage - but he was only in a place to win it today as result of team strategy to protect Lance. I know Lance was thrilled for George since he not only is the only teammate with lance since 1999 but they have been friends since they were teenagers. With the exception of the two bad days which cant really be explained but shouldn’t be singled out, Discovery has done exactly what it needed to do each day to protect lance - along with great days on 9 and 15, and the time trial on 4, they set a crazy pace on stage 10 which let lance get the yellow back, and stage 11 they set a grueling pace up the climb to hold Vino back since he was the only danger in the group at that time - and the other days they purposely stayed near the front to keep lance safe from crashes but didn’t need to attack or always take the lead since other teams were keeping the contenders in check. But that is just my interpretation of things
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 10:23 pm
Muchos nachos, LB. And Ladytex, for asking the question.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, July 18, 2005 - 12:48 pm
And I was kind of wondering if they were "weak" those days on purpose...to sucker the other teams on days when Lance knew he could do it by himself? This strategy on this race is so interesting - who knew - I just thought they jumped on the bike and pedalled, but instead it is this whole huge orchestrated ballet on wheels.
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Serenity
Member
06-28-2005
| Monday, July 18, 2005 - 1:03 pm
I'm with Roxip - I think they purposely held back on those days. This whole race is crazy and the strategy part of it is just as important as the biking.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, July 18, 2005 - 1:06 pm
I don't believe they held back on those days. Too dangerous. Yes, Lance came out of it alright, but there was no guarantee that he would. There was a big chance for serious damage to be done by that T Mobile team. I don't see Lance's team taking them for granted like that.
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Monday, July 18, 2005 - 1:24 pm
i do agree with lady that i feel they didnt do it on purpose on those two days - especially on stage 14 i think t-mobile just made the right move at the right time and outmatched them - i do think it would be too dangerous to take that risk against teams like t-moble - but like i said, in the end lance is the one that got the checkmate and the team learned hard lessons and rebounded the following days... i am not sure about stage 8 being on purpose or not and lance is so good at vocally expressing concern about his competitors and his team in a manner where he never comes across as too confident even though you know he has little reason to worry - but its hard to know just how upset he may or may not have been after stage 8... i do think he had reason to be concerned after stage 14 but they were able to dance right back up that mountain the next day and that is why i still think the team is doing a great job ... i just remembered a quote .... lets see if i can track it down
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Monday, July 18, 2005 - 1:49 pm
not the exact one i was thinking of but i will look later for that one ... but this is a bit of the same idea "If you stand up and be counted, from time to time you may get yourself knocked down. But remember this: A man flattened by an opponent can get up again. A man flattened by conformity stays down for good." ahhh here it is "It's not whether you get knocked down; it's whether you get up again." - - - Vince Lombardi
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