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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, December 31, 2004 - 9:21 pm
Who, maybe we need another thread just to discuss the tragedy? Well that was tongue in cheek, but I guess I'll stick to the prayers thread for my mentions of this situation.
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 3:46 pm
I thought this was a place where we could come and discuss ALL aspects of the tsunami tragedy. If I felt it was designated for only one facet of the tragedy, I,myself, would stay away. I like to hear what people are doing to help. Like 9/11, out of a horrible tragedy comes a great testament to the charitable hearts of this world.
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 3:56 pm
The latest country by country update Here and more importantly, some Survivor Stories
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Moderator
Moderator
06-30-2002
| Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 4:26 pm
This is a place to discuss any aspect of the tragedy. If there is something you would like to discuss besides what is already being discussed, please feel free to post. However, *everyone* is free to discuss whatever aspect of the tsunami tragedy they would like to. Please do not disparage others for not having the discussion you would prefer. Just bring up the things you would like to talk about yourself. If others are interested, they will join in.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 10:02 pm
ACK, didn't mean to disparage anyone. I also like hearing what people are doing to help, just feel squirmy when the help, amount, timing and such is, uh.. disparaged. OH and today on CNN, I loved seeing that couple.. she was originally from one of the hard hit areas.. she owns a tiny airline (two planes) Susi Air and her husband is a pilot.. they managed to set down their small plane on a damaged runway and bring goods to stranded people and also brought back messages to the families of stranded soldiers! Very cool.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 8:52 am
Yeah, I was gonna ask you if you were drunk or something, Seamonkey. Maybe better cut back on that Pepsi a tad. I figured you didn't mean what it sounded like you meant.
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 1:51 pm
First Tsunami Survivor Found in Three Days
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Hippyt
Member
06-15-2001
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 2:33 pm
Well,nice to see a tiny little bit of good news.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 2:42 pm
My heart goes out to the searchers; at least they must have had an "UP" moment actually finding someone alive, but when a search is really only recovery of the dead, especially when the threat of disease looms over them, that's about as traumatic as it gets. Even the search DOGS become depressed, I've heard.
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 2:48 pm
i hope people remember to provide counseling in the months and years that follow to all the searchers and relief workers as well as the victims - after all the stories i heard about fireman and police who had to work on the oklahoma city bombing site and 9-11, i just know their emotions get overlooked too often and it can build up to more unnecessary tragedy - they all are tough, honorable people doing their job but those are the people you have to really look at and make sure they have another outlet
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 3:32 pm
I saw the Ambassador of Sri Lanka on CNN (I could be wrong on his position, but it was a discussion on Sri Lanka and India) That was his point, that right now they are having tons of food and water delivered, but the infrastructure, millions are homeless, this will take a minimum of 10 years to rebuild. Also, a lady representing UNICEF was talking about how 1/3 of the deaths were children, due to their inability to climb trees, and outrun adults, and her fears were for the years to come. It sounded to me that many compassionate workers were there that will not forget and will try and follow up... Here is a satellite view, with your mouse you rollover and see the before and after, and only the mosque survived... Aceh Sumatra I still havent read where they are putting all the debris from this horrific tragedy, and seeings how its sumatra, does that mean the coffee industry suffered as well (or am I being geography challenged again?)
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 4:53 pm
That image is unbelievable, Reader.
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Max
Member
08-12-2000
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 5:12 pm
OMG. That picture says more than all the stories I've read so far. I cannot begin to imagine what those poor people are going through. A team from Northwest Medical Teams left here for Sri Lanka the ohter day. They are accompanied by a local news reporter and cameraman. The reporter is the son of a couple at my church. Despite all the briefings they got, I'm certain that he's not at all prepared for what they will see. It's just too overwhelming.
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Spygirl
Moderator
04-23-2001
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 5:19 pm
Dog Saves Boy's Life
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 5:20 pm
it is weird how some of it is still green right in the middle of the destruction
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Karuuna
Member
08-31-2000
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 5:22 pm
Okay, I just saw a report from a triage hospital in Aceh. I am horrified. Operating without pain killers and anesthesia. Tying patients down so they won't move while procedures are done. Wounds with maggots in them. 400 or 500 more people arriving every day for medical care. I am absolutely horrified.
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Egbok
Member
07-13-2000
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 5:28 pm
Wow Reader, that is an amazing image. I usually don't take the time to read the LA Times, but with a disaster of nature such as this one, I am compelled to read updates and first account stories of personal survival. I've also learned about a tsunami that struck Crescent City CA back in 1964 from the Alaskan earthquake. I hadn't known of this tsunami before. I live relatively close to the CA coastline and I've now looked around with the "what if" scenario going through my mind. I feel confident that our area would get an advanced warning, whereas those poor souls in southern Asia didn't know what was coming their way. What a shame. I'll also share on a personal level, that my youngest son traveled by himself to Sri Lanka in the summer of 2001, spending a day in Columbo before being driven inland to spend two weeks with an Earthwatch Institution study program. If this event had happened while he was there, I would have been a basketcase. I'm pretty certain the area he was in remained safe from the tsunami's wrath, however, I'm also sure that all peoples of Sri Lanka are affected with this disaster one way or another.
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Hippyt
Member
06-15-2001
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 5:41 pm
That dog story is incredible. I read an article talking about how few animals died because they could sense what was coming and ran first.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 6:19 pm
Schoolgirl's Tsunami Lesson Saves Lives A 10-year-old girl who learnt about tsunamis in a geography class saved her family and hundreds of tourists from death. Tilly Smith noticed the tide rush out on Maikhao beach in Phuket, Thailand, where she was on holiday with her mother Penny, father Colin and seven-year-old sister Holly.The schoolgirl remembered her geography teacher's lesson about the bubbling water only weeks earlier and told her family they had to leave the beach. This story just astounded me, I thought it wasnt real, so I didnt post about it before, but after the dog story, I thought to see if I could find a link instead of the usual "did anybody else hear about..." one link
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 7:45 pm
Good for her! I'd like to think I'd remember my education in that way. Years ago I attended an Emergency Preparation class at work.. it lasted 10 weeks, once a week at lunch time and one class was about Tsunamis.. we saw footage of the Tsunami at Valdez Alaska.. one person had the camera running from the deck of a ship .. a ship that ended up bouncing off the bottome and ending up inland.. it was pretty amazing. And we learned that you must get to higher ground FAST. In fact those who died when that same wave hit in the Pacific Northwest and very north of California were mostly killed becaues they went down TO the beach after the warning came through.. Good for Tilly!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Monday, January 03, 2005 - 1:44 am
Is anyone watching Larry King Live these past few days? Why can't anyone teach Larry how to say Phuket and Colombo? I'm so interested in the actual INFORMATION, but his pronunciation is like nails on a chalkboard to me. 
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Monday, January 03, 2005 - 11:35 am
I love my job. in addition to corporate donations and a lot of technical supplies and assistance already being given, they just announced they will match all donations by employees.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, January 03, 2005 - 11:38 am
That's great, Gidget. In addition to the human suffering, I have been very curious about the state of the orangutan population on Sumatra. They are so near extinction already...
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Ginger1218
Member
08-31-2001
| Monday, January 03, 2005 - 12:23 pm
Hey Gidget, my firm too. They are giving a certain amount, as well as matching any donations made by employees.
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Calamity
Member
10-18-2001
| Monday, January 03, 2005 - 1:07 pm
Yankee: As anyone who reads News & Views could probably expect, I've been following the ecological impact of this disaster as closely as the human tragedy. While reports are that the earthquakes & tidal surges didn't cause widespread large (as in body size) animal deaths, the destruction of so many unique habitats, food & water supplies, and nesting sites means that the worst is probably yet to come. In addition to the gentle orangutans, Sumatra is also home to the Sumatran tiger and other endangered and threatened species. Sea life has also been severely damaged - various species of sea turtles, coral, aquatic mammals, and so on. It's just such a terrible situation for the world. The World Wildlife Fund, International Fund for Animal Welfare, and Greenpeace (which is also helping Doctors Without Borders to aid on the human side) are three leading international wildlife groups that are pitching in to help in this crisis. News updates are being posted to their web sites but as of right now, there's not much that's known. Here's a link to the Sumatran Orangutan Society's Tsunami update page. I read an article - from yesterday, I think? - that it's sending a delegation to help with the situation. Just to head off any misunderstandings: I know that in stressful times like this, some people will react negatively when they see others "wasting" resources & concern on animals. Everyone cares deeply about the plight of the people who were affected by this tragedy but the scope of this disaster extends beyond us. My worries over other creatures in no way diminishes my concern for the human aspect of this tragedy. This debate reminds me of how, as we focus on India & Indonesia, we mustn't forget places such as Somalia, that where also affected but haven't received nearly as much coverage. Not to mention all the other problems that are going on in the world.
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