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Kstme
Member
08-14-2000
| Monday, March 14, 2005 - 10:14 am
Jbean, it's really hard to raise a new pup. With Ollie, I thought we'd never get through it and then Mags tried for the world record in overnight howling for the first 7 days! You will get there, but it takes lots of patience and consistency. We are so lucky with Cami! I called our breeder yesterday and told her that this can't be a Sussex! She's 9 months old and potty trained! Sussex girls aren't usually trained until they are around a year old. She is so delightful and so adorable! Nothing like Olliemonster!! I love babysitting for Thekid's new pup! Some really fantastic news from England!! Our breeder over there bred 3 of her b!tches last week! One of her studs took 1st place in Special Junior Dog at Crufts on Saturday!! This is so awesome!!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Monday, March 14, 2005 - 12:13 pm
Is it wrong of me to snicker when you say "b!tches" the proper way?
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Monday, March 14, 2005 - 12:36 pm
Yay Kstme that is awesome news! Jbean, hang in there ... it takes a lot of work in the beginning with a puppy but consistancy will pay off. I love Herckies idea's. It's just like having a baby, the two of you will learn what works. I think Mocha's has a good point about looking up information. There's a lot of information out there, it's bound to help one way or another. Good luck!!
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Monday, March 14, 2005 - 12:52 pm
Ok, this is going to sound mean, but you could spray her with a squirt bottle every time she yells while in her crate at night. You could keep the crate on the floor right next to your bed and the bottle right there too. I don't know if you'd end up with a soaking wet puppy who then hates her crate. I have done no research on this and it's been 10 yr. since we had a puppy. I think we actually had our puppy in a box next to the bed and she was on the leash tied to a drawer handle or something. When she would whine at night, my husband would yank the leash a little. It worked. I think this is how we did it. I have heard great success with the squirt bottle with other things ... jumping up for instance. I would never spank our kids, so I really thought I'd never hit the dog, but when I was reading a book while she was a puppy or even before we got her maybe, I realized that in a pack, her adults would sort of hit her to train her, so we would sometimes...in a firm but gentle manner. I wonder if you could keep Lola in her crate next to your bed but with the door open so you could reach in and keep her on the leash so she cannot get out and just flick her or hit her sharply but lightly when she whines. Just suggestions. I am by no means an expert in this. Good luck!
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, March 14, 2005 - 12:58 pm
A book that really helped me when training Finnegan was How to Housebreak Your Dog in 7 Days. It will obviously take more than 7 days with some dogs, but I found the advice here sound. And I used positive reinforcement with Finnegan, which in my opinion works sooo much better than the "old way" of choke chains and spanks, IMO. Training a puppy DOES take a lot of hard work in the beginning, but it WILL change. It WILL get better. And when it does, you'll barely remember these days! Amazon And CONGRATULATIONS kstme!!
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Crzndeb
Member
07-26-2004
| Monday, March 14, 2005 - 1:02 pm
www.i-dog.com is a great site for dog info. I lucked out with our GSD mix from a shelter. He was 14 weeks old when we got him. Had a couple of poop accidents the first couple of days (we have had him 6 weeks now) and has slept with my daughter (usually 10-12 hrs), without ever having an accident...sometimes she has to get him up. how about the crate in the bathroom with the fan on...kinda like white noise. And I agree, earplugs are a must.
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Kstme
Member
08-14-2000
| Monday, March 14, 2005 - 2:27 pm
LOL, the squirt bottle! Both of Ollie and Mags LOVED it!! Turned useless from the moment they saw that first spray! I agree with Yankee, positive reinforcement is a must! Also, thanks, we're pretty excited! Vacanick, thanks and Eeyor, 
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Monday, March 14, 2005 - 3:47 pm
Crufts. Cool! I as awake after Jbeany posted in the wee hours but everything I started typing sounded too much.. thankfully all has been said by others.. I did envision any number of parents of human kids rofling as they read. Labs are bigger and sturdier and we certainly did resort to shaking a crate and firmly yelling NO! on more than one occasion.. of course we didn't usually get them all that young, and we didn't let them go to their new homes (those we bred) all that young either.. wanted them to get some shots first and well especially if they had to be flown, wanted them to be a little more mature. We started our litters whistle training from the time they could walk fast, even sooner.. we'd blow the "come" signgal when we put down food pans.. well they soon thought that was a good idea, even later when that just meant a pat and a "what a GOOD puppy!". We'd also use the whistle while hustling the little pack outside to pee and then train them to associate that with our chosen phrase ("hie on!" in our case which means to run around and do whatever business you need to do.. comes in mighty handy later in life on road trips and frankly I never could stomach trilling "go potty" to a grown dog We were also lucky to have some veterans around and the pups would soon learn just to follow the adults outside after they ate and also to settle down in a crate at night. But, we had a puppy pen and they could be in there, together for awhile too. I think Mocha has the good idea, go to experts in your particular breed, get earplugs and be very firm, fair and consistent.
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Jbean
Member
01-05-2002
| Monday, March 14, 2005 - 3:52 pm
mocha, i have been reading anything and everything about caring for chis. i even joined a forum about them. it's not that i don't have the info that i need, it's just that kitty was so easy to train! and i know i need to have patience, but for God's sake, you would think her voice would wear out after about the first 4 hours. when we get up in the mornings, she is all of a sudden SLEEPY. i wonder WHY? ACK! eggie, i already sleep with earplugs in anyway, i'm such a light sleeper. i think kitty is probably glaring at lola all night long, since her crate is right next to kitty's...she's probably getting NO SLEEP. lol herkle, i actually won one of those mama bear things off of ebay on saturday....probably won't be here for several days. i'm just about at my wit's end. i'm seriously considering taking her back to my sister's. i know. i'm so wishy washy, but she has so much fun with foxy and pedro. i'm wondering if i could have her stay with them, while i pay for everything for her including food, shots, everything, and visit ALL the time. then when i can move, take her with me. i don't know. everyone may get attached to one another..her to them, and them to her (my sister's family, being "them"), but they will also be breeding chi's, so will probably have a bunch running around. i know that sounds chickenshit of me, but ACK! i've really gotten myself into a mess. it wouldn't be fair to kitty to make her leave, she's very well-behaved (well for a cat, anyway). thanks for letting me vent and share my thoughts here. i will keep you all posted. gotta get ready now, my niece has a PTA program tonight. puppy is at mom's so i can get ready without whimpering. she doesn't whine at mom's house. 
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Monday, March 14, 2005 - 3:52 pm
Lol Sea, I tell Angel to go pee or I point to the bush and he does his thing. Of course none of that works with Spike.
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Monday, March 14, 2005 - 7:57 pm
Jbean ... it took a little while but my 17 year old cat who had never even seen a dog before, has adjusted to our dog, Maggie. They have learned to stay away from each other. The dog sleeps with me and my cat sleeps in his bed by my bed. Until this dog, I had always had cats. Dogs are more work. And it took a little while to figure out what my dog needed. But with consistancy and flexibility, it's working out. Dogs need more than cats, but they also give so much! I'm so sorry that your going through all this. I can't imagine how difficult this must be! I'm sure you'll figure out what's best for both you and Lola Bean. Mocha, my Maggie goes pee on command also. I don't know how I got so lucky!
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, March 14, 2005 - 8:00 pm
Interesting that she doesn't whine at mom's house -- maybe it's because she knows you'll give her what she wants if she whines (?) to make her quiet? Of course I don't know your situation, but it's a thought.
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Jbean
Member
01-05-2002
| Monday, March 14, 2005 - 8:28 pm
yankee, i wondered that, too. but i don't really give into her whining. i think they just cry for their favorite person...because they want their undivided attention. like the deal when i'm trying to take a bath, she can be in the room with me and still whines! not nearly as bad as that one day, but bad enough to be irritating. i don't get out or anything, so i don't know what good she thinks it's doing. mom said she doesn't whine at all when she's taking her bath. but these breed of dogs get very attached to one person in particular (guess who that would be, lol) and they will stick to them like glue. like my sister's 2 follow her around. pedro was so bad about being her shadow that he would throw a fit anytime she went somewhere without him! even if my niece and brother-in-law were still there. yesterday when i was at mom's i had her in the huge crate that mom has because she can't run around by herself, she's not totally potty trained. she was being a whiney butt, and i wasn't letting her out, then my mom comes in (she'd been somewhere else) and lets her out. she runs right past my mom and straight to me...even though i wouldn't let her out. lol.  how can you help but love the sweet little thing? eta: OMG, i just read in my above post, i called boris "pedro". i meant to say lola has so much fun with foxy and BORIS! ack!
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Jasper
Member
09-14-2000
| Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 11:08 am
I must have really lucked out with Oscar, he was 11 weeks old on Saturday and we have been accident free for over a week, plus two nights in a row (we put down papers over pads), the last one being 8 hours and no business in the house, when I let him out this morning poor guy was busting a gut I'm sure, but what a good boy. Since the first night no whining at night at all, and at work he only barks a little first thing in the morning if I go downstairs to get something. He sits, gives paw and knows his name so far, we're working on down and I just signed him up for puppy school starting in two weeks. The one thing is the biting! Lordy those sharp little teeth, but he only seems to do that in the evening and I am beginning to wonder if it is to get attention so I have stopped saying anything to him and just move my hands away and put a toy in his mouth, or maybe it's being around dh! Plus he is a poop eater (gross Jasper never did this)! The vet told us not to even comment, just clean up right away. I think he is getting the idea. I'm really pleased about the toilet training, I do think it has a lot to do with how much he enjoys being outdoors as well. Pretty much from the getgo he just scratched the patio door to go out when he had to go. I think in 3 weeks he has only had half a dozen accidents and they were more than likely our fault for not paying attention to the time or his manner. He had his second set of boosters on Saturday and will be going to visit Grandma and Grandpa and their three Cairns this coming Saturday, fingers crossed, our Rottie was always a little intimidated by them.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 12:03 pm
I bet he is really growing bit, Jasper. Would love to see any new pics you have. Jbean, didn't you buy Lola from a breeder? Seems like she should be a source of good advice (a breeder should be available).
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Kstme
Member
08-14-2000
| Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 1:29 pm
I'm hoping I made this pic of Cami getting her 1st point in Indiana...
new puter and new scanner
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Kstme
Member
08-14-2000
| Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 1:43 pm
oops...back to the drawing board...
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Kstme
Member
08-14-2000
| Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 2:05 pm
ah ha...

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Jbean
Member
01-05-2002
| Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 2:28 pm
sea, i think i mentioned this WAY upthread, lola is not from a breeder...they just don't have their dogs fixed. the home is not clean, so these are more or less rescue puppies. that is one of the pluses to me. i dont' care about papers, only want her as a pet. and she is very healthy according to the vet. just taking it one day at a time. she's doing great on the potty training front. the morning we got up at 4:30 (yesterday) first thing she did was go to the training pad and take care of business. kstme, what a pretty pup! yay! 
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 2:47 pm
Do they have anymore Jbeanie?
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Jbean
Member
01-05-2002
| Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 3:31 pm
mocha, i don't know...their phone got shut off! the girl at petsmart wanted one after seeing little lola, and i called my sis and got the number and the girl came back and said that phone had been disconnected. these people are real....uh....hygenically challenged.
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Jbean
Member
01-05-2002
| Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 4:07 pm

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Landi
Member
07-29-2002
| Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 4:19 pm
she's just a baby. you can't expect a baby who has been taken from her brothers and sisters and mommy to be totally behaved just yet. she needs time and patience.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 4:22 pm
Oh Ktsme! Look at that B!TCH! <snicker> Congrats on the point! How many will she need to be a CH? Jbeanie, I wish you luck with training Lola. Perseverance, and sucking up to neighbours sounds like the best advice.
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Ddr
Member
08-19-2001
| Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 4:29 pm
Uh...Jasper, you forgot to post a pic with your update of Oscar! Jbeanie, she is adorable. Hang in there hon!
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