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The TVClubHouse: General Discussions: 2004 Aug - Oct: Dogs (ARCHIVES): Archive through August 22, 2004 users admin

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Hippyt
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06-15-2001

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 5:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
1)Beagles are great.

2)Pure breeds are great as well as mutts. Just be sure you are buying from a reputable dog breeder,not a puppy mill.

3)Not every dog you get from the Humane Society is good. There is sometimes a valid reason they are there.

4)I have never heard of people totally declawing a dog. I doubt you will find a vet who would do that. Dogs are not like cats,they don't ruin the furniture.

5)Females are great. You need to get her spayed,which you can do at six weeks of age.

6)There are many good websites about housebreaking dogs,just google it!

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 6:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I always thought vets recommended that female dogs have one litter before being spayed.

We had a lovely female beagle who (I feel like I am betraying women here! ack!) got very fat and sleepy and lazy after we had her fixed. Still loved her; just not the same dog. However that was before the days of lamb and rice, etc. dogfood.

Ophiliasgrandma
Member

09-04-2001

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 6:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I believe the idea that it is best to let a female have one litter falls into the Old Wives Tale category.

Hippyt
Member

06-15-2001

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No,vets do not recommend that.

Sia
Member

03-11-2002

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lost, I'm glad you were able to find a dog to fit into your family and that you chose one that needed rescuing. You have a really big heart. I know 'Cane will fit in with the rest of your four-legged kids very soon. Your daughter at college will still be very sad to learn of Ethel's passing, but I'm sure 'Cane will do his best to wiggle his way into her heart, too.

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My male dog was neutured and gained weight and isn't as perky as he was but still plays around alot. It's normal. And I think Hip means 6 months. And no you don't need to have a litter before spaying.

Sia
Member

03-11-2002

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 6:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sillycalimomma, my grandmother had the most devoted, darling, loving beagle for over 14 years. Her heart is still broken over losing her faithful companion. He was AKC registered, but I don't think a pedigree is important when looking for a family pet. There is a small breed of beagle that I saw on TV once called a 13-inch beagle. Does anyone know if there is a smaller beagle than that? I think beagles are totally adorable!

Spaying/neutering (imo) always makes for a better pet, so the sex of the dog shouldn't matter since you'll be getting him/her fixed anyway. Choose a female if you prefer. My three dogs are outside, but I've always preferred female cats indoors over tomcats. It's just your personal preference.

A friend of mine breeds miniature Australian shepherds, and they're darling, too--not to mention very small doggies, good with children, excellent companions, etc.

Any way you go, you'll be giving a dog a wonderful, loving home and you'll enrich your own life as well. Good luck picking out a four-legged friend, and please post pics if you can!

Sillycalimomma
Member

11-13-2003

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 6:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks so much everyone for all of your input! I knew I could get some great help here. I had never heard of dogs getting declawed either, but 3 of the breeders I called today had said they had done it-perhaps they meant the dewclaws (forgot about those!-Told you it's been awhile!) I have been looking at our local SPCA for about a month for a family dog, but there hasn't been a dog there yet that was under 5 years old. I know that is still fairly young, but DD has had a deep fear of dogs ever since she was a baby (my moms dog bit her pretty bad) and she hasn't warmed up to them until this year. I really want to be careful in the behavior of the dog and I think that my best shot perhaps is to get a pup. I will keep you all posted on my search! Thanks!

Karuuna
Member

08-31-2000

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 6:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I recommend spaying/neutering any dog that you do not plan to breed. They do make better pets. If you have it done early, it minimizes any problem with weight gain or lethargy.

We have a male neutered beagle. He is the most loving sweet dog in the world... in the house. Outside he barks all day, and our four foot high fence would not keep him in. We put up electric wire and he just ran thru it. Put up a six feet high kennel fence and he dug his way out. Finally had to line the thing with chicken wire, then landscape material, then gravel. So far so good.

We do just adore him however, but they are definitely roamers, so you do have to have a secure fence to keep 'em in!

Housebreaking is not so hard. You need to remember to take them out often when they're pups, and I've always trained mine to go on command. Yes, it sounds silly, but Drover's already pretty much got it. Also, never ever leave them loose unattended in the house. Either play with them, or put them in a crate. I never teach them to go on newspaper, altho for some folks it's necessary. When Drover's awake, he's on a little leash and he just follows me around the house wherever I go.

The best time to train is when they do those middle of the night wake-ups, or right after day time naps. Take the pup out to whatever spot you have designated and gently coax them to go. I use the words "hurry up", since "go pee" is very distracting to strangers. :-) I keep repeating the words encouragingly until we have elimination. Then I praise him silly.

As I said, even after only 24 hours, Drover will now pretty much start sniffing when I take him to the spot and start repeating hurry up. Even if it's only a few drops, he'll make the attempt. He's one smart pup.

I can't tell you how handy it is to have your pouch pee on command.

Karuuna
Member

08-31-2000

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 6:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
PS Sirbill, I really feel for ya, you're one good egg. Actually both of you are for taking in those moms and fostering those pups.

But honestly, every two hours? I'd be battier than I already am!

Sillycalimomma
Member

11-13-2003

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 6:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Karuuna! It helps to hear from Beagle owners. I have never owned a Beagle nor do i know anyone who has so all I have to go on is the things I read. Each dog is different anyhow though, but still. Thanks again everyone!

Juju2bigdog
Member

10-27-2000

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 6:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Congratulations, Lost! What a beautiful and unusual coat!

Silli, I prefer spayed female dogs.

Colordeagua
Member

10-25-2003

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Some "funny" stories about beagles. Have an article out of newspaper from a number of years ago. Young woman could not find her "rock" (engagement ring). Looked and looked and looked and couldn't find it. She and her fiance, living together, had a beagle pup. "Darwin, do you have it?" Took the beagle pup to the vet. X-ray. That's where it was. The couple waited and watched. Very same thing happened to one of my high school teachers who had a beagle pup.

The beagle I grew up with literally ate glass. Back in the '50s when glass milk bottles were more common, one fell off the table on the cement patio in the backyard. (It was sitting out there waiting for the milkman. Remember him?) It shattered into tiny pieces. Beagle licked some of it up. Beagles will eat most anything. Called the vet. Feed him salt. That will make most dogs vomit -- which he did. Vet said if that didn't work, put bits of cotton in his food to hopefully pad the tiny pieces.

When we went on vacation, usually we took him with us (he loved to ride in the car), but sometimes we left him in a kennel. One of those times -- we must have left him at a quasi-kennel. They didn't know about beagles. They let him eat as much as he wanted. Beagles do not know when to quit. When we picked him up from the kennel, he was HUGE (bloated)!! Could not believe it!! He did deflate down to his usual size when he was back on his usual diet.

As I was seven years old when we got him, his name was Spot. But his AKC registered name, which my Mom came up with, was General Nuisance. Back then (still today?), you give the AKC a choice of three names and they pick it.

I still miss Spot. His last collar hangs on my bed post.

Sia
Member

03-11-2002

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 7:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Silly, there are claw-covers (that glue on like fake nails for humans) for kitties, so maybe there are claw-covers for dogs, too. They're called "SoftPaws," I think. And Karuuna might have been the one to tell me about them. I can't remember now. Maybe do a google search, or someone can do some research for you?



Landi
Member

07-29-2002

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
my mother was a poodle breeder, we docked tails, and removed dew claws. just never had them "declawed" i thought you meant like a cat earlier. mocha gave you a great link earlier for a breeder. also since you're a little northeast of me, i'd check the sacramento kennel club. i'm sure they have a show coming up soon for a reputable beagle breeder.

Lostintheglades
Member

07-10-2000

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 10:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Juju...thanks. This is the first male dog we've had in a while. We normally have females as well but he just seemed right. Feels weird to have a male though.

Lostintheglades
Member

07-10-2000

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 11:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
OMG, this 5 month old puppy we just got already weighs 30 pounds. I can't sleep and thought I go out and check to see if he needed to go outside and he wasn't on his blanket where he's been sleeping most of the day. Yep, he's passed out on the bed with my 20 year old animal lover. hehe...I think I know who's dog he's going to end up being. Could be worse, could have been a man in her room. Yikes!!! Takes after her mom I guess. If I wasn't married he'd probably have been in my bed. Oh wait...Millie's in my bed. hehe

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 6:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Silly

Over the past two years, we have adopted 3 beagle (mixes, as they probably aren't 100% beagle). We got them from rescue groups who fostered them. They are the BEST dogs! I was able to be picky and find what I was looking for because they did live with foster families. That way I was able to get all sorts of information before bringing them home. The things I wanted was a dog that was:
housebroken
great with children
trustworthy to be left alone in the house when no one is home (non destructive)
non barker
And I was able to get dogs with these qualities.

A puppy is a handful and I did not want to have to get up at 6 am to let the pup out and deal with the chewing, accidents, etc.

Good luck.ANd a beagle is a great way to go!!! Especially if you use a rescue group or petfinder.org. (I found all of my pups thru petfinder.org)

Oh SPAY or Neuter immediately and adopt, please don't buy one... (although you will have to pay to adopt one.)


Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 6:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Silli, I went back and read your actual questions:
There are a ton of unwanted animals out there. A ton of perfectly loving, good dogs. Why is purebred important to you? (Tho you can find purebreds at shelters and rescue groups.) Please look at petfinder.org.
So my advice is do NOT buy from a store or even a breeder. Please look at the dogs and shelters you will see at petfinder...

I cannot tell you how wonderful our beagles are--and they were ALL scheduled to be put to sleep before the different rescue groups pulled them out. Then they fostered them and I found them.

Okay, that is my two cents...

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 6:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Also, there are a lot of puppies out there too--not just older dogs.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 7:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here are a few female puppies that I found on petfinder.org. They are all in California (if you use your zip code, you can find the ones closer to you...)


The Pawd Squad Animal Rescue
Burbank, CA
Jack Russell Terrier, Beagle
Baby
Female
Kate

BONES Pet Rescue
Covelo, CA
Beagle
Baby
Female
Claire

BONES Pet Rescue-
Covelo, CA
Beagle
Baby
Female
Rosie

Welcome Waggin Dog Rescue
Orland, CA
Labrador Retriever,Beagle
Baby
Female
Peppermint Patty

Yucaipa Animal Placement Society
Yucaipa, CA
Beagle
baby
female
belle

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 7:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Then let's say, you want to know more about Kate (the first one listed). YOu click on the name (Kate) and it will list more details and contact info and usually pictures:

Kate
Dog
Jack Russell Terrier,Beagle Mix


Size: Medium
Age: Baby
Sex: Female
I.D:


Notes: Kate and her brother and her sister were found wandering in an alley near downtown Los Angeles. They are all about 3 months old. Kate is 12 pounds and is just a bundle of energy and sweetness. She'll come running up to you and give you a smooch then go play with her toys. Very loving. Kate is learning how to walk on a leash and is trying to be housebroken! She will chase cats! Kate will be spayed prior to adoption.


This pet is: up to date with routine shots


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This pet is eligible for a gift of the first two months of ShelterCare pet insurance paid for by Petfinder.com [Click]

The Pawd Squad Animal Rescue
Burbank, CA
310-674-0477
pawdsquad@yahoo.com

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 7:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here's what's listed in California for a young female beagle:

Organization Dominant breed Age M/F Name Pic Features

Wee Bar None Ranch Pet Placement
Apple Valley, CA
Beagle
Young
F
HANNAH


Camp Pendleton Animal Shelter
Camp Pendleton, CA
Beagle,Pit Bull Terrier
Young
F
Missy


Pet Adoption Fund
Canoga Park, CA
Beagle
Young
F
Maggie

Beagles & Buddies
El Monte, CA
Beagle
Young
F
Daisy "J"

Beagles & Buddies
El Monte, CA Beagle,
Terrier Young F Harmony

Beagles & Buddies
El Monte, CA Beagle
Young F Trixie

Beagles & Buddies
El Monte, CA Beagle
Young F Princess

Beagles & Buddies
El Monte, CA Beagle
Young F Charity

Beagles & Buddies
El Monte, CA Beagle
Young F Froggy

Beagles & Buddies
El Monte, CA Dachshund,
Beagle Young F Pogo

St. Anthonys Canine Rescue
Lomita, CA Welsh Corgi,
Beagle Young F Little Lady

SC P.A.W.
Los Angeles, CA
Beagle,Boxer Young F Praline

Life is the Pits Rescue
Los Angeles, CA
Corgi,Beagle Young F Little lady

Much Love Animal Rescue
Los Angeles, CA
Beagle Young F Ruby

Forte Animal Rescue
Marina del Rey, CA
Beagle,Staffordshire Terrier Young F Brandy

Forte Animal Rescue
Marina del Rey, CA
Basenji,Beagle Young F Zoe

Three Rivers Animal Adoption Cntr & Shelter
Marysville / Yuba City, CA
Beagle,Australian Shepherd Young F Jewel

B.A.R.C.
Mentone, CA
Beagle Young F Molly

City of Los Angeles East Valley Animal Shelter
North Hollywood, CA
Beagle,Staffordshire Bull Terrier Young F

Pasadena Humane Society & SPCA
Pasadena, CA
Beagle Young F OSHA

Help For The Homeless Pets
San Diego, CA
Beagle,Hound Young F Hopper

American Toy Fox Terrier Club Rescue
Snohomish, CA
Beagle Young F Little

All Breed Dog Rescue
Yucaipa, CA
Beagle Young F Hannah

Juju2bigdog
Member

10-27-2000

Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 8:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yay Julieboo!!

Lost, I was commenting to Sillicalimomma about females vs. males since she asked. Your boy looks like a great addition to the family.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 8:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
One thing to keep in mind about a puppy (if your dd still has a fear) is they NIP like crazy. Some especially love to nip (bite) necks. So maybe a gentler older pup would be something to consider... Puppies also jump and can easily knock down small children (of course if the puppy is smaller than your dd, this won't matter too much)