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Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Friday, August 13, 2004 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I posted this elsewhere, but wanted to make sure that people were aware that there are new rules for both Men's and Women's Gymnastics this year.

There will be no more throwing out of the lowest score. ALL scores will count. That means that any miscue or mis-step by any team member could seriously impact the team.

It will be a very high pressure situation. I will be biting my nails and holding my breath a lot!

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Friday, August 13, 2004 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yea. I think each country picks 3 athletes on each event, and all three scores count? I'll hae to browse the gymnastics message board and see if I can see.

Oh, and Mohini Bhardwaj was voted team captain by her team mates.

How do we want to do the discussions? Do scores and stuff in the spoilers thread, and then talk about it here once its televised? Since the events won't be televised real time, this could get tricky.

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Friday, August 13, 2004 - 2:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hmmmm, just reading on the gymnastics message board. The start lists are up for USA, and there are five athletes in each event. Maybe is three for finals? Could have sworn I read them talking about the 6-3-3 format over there earlier (six athletes, 3 compete, 3 count).

Anyway, here is the lineup for USA women.

UB: Bhardwaj, Humphrey, McCool, Patterson, Kupets
BB: Bhardwaj, Kupets, Humphrey, McCool, Patterson
FX: Bhardwaj, Kupets, Humphrey, McCool, Patterson
VT: McCool, Kupets, Patterson, Bhardwaj, Hatch

Oh, and I thought I'd repost FIG's website here that's dedicated to the gymnasitcs events. On the bottom right corner is a clock that shows the current time in Athens too: FIG Athens Site

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Friday, August 13, 2004 - 2:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
On a promo, I heard that Paul Hahn (sp?) was team captain for the men's team, but on the Today Show, Blaine Wilson said that they had decided to do away with the team captain concept as each member is responsible enough so that having a captain is unnecessary.

I thought that was quite odd. Even if it is only honorary...most teams still name a captain in case someone is needed to speak or act on behalf of the team. Some friction on this team perhaps?

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Friday, August 13, 2004 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, on the gymnastics board I read, they do describe Blaine Wilson as an arrogant...um, well, if I went into detail here, I'd probably get modded. If that's true, I could see where he'd not like Paul Hamm (USA Champion, and current World Champion BTW) being captain (and getting all the attention).

But then, that same board seems to have a group hatred towards Kerri Strug too. And I really like her!

I just hope the media doesn't turn the men's gymnastics coverage into another "Blaine Wilson Show."

Oh, and I just got a clarification over on the gymnastics board on the lineups. Prelims is 6-5-4, and Finals is 6-3-3.

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Friday, August 13, 2004 - 3:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
More gossip. Looks like the All Arounders for USA Womens are McCool, Kupets, Patterson, Bhardwaj. Apparantly, due to the order of lineup, the people over on GGMB (Gymnastics Gossip Message Board) say that Martha Karoli must be pushing for Patterson and McCool to make AA Finals.

That's the other change from other Olympics. Instead of each country qualifying three into the AA Finals, only two per country can go in now.

Geeze, I sure an hogging up this thread! Sorry!

<hides over in the corner to let someone else speak for a change!>

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Friday, August 13, 2004 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Whoami...quite the contrary! We very appreciate your inside knowledge. I used to follow the sport avidly, but became disinterested for awhile. Now that I am getting interested again...I really need a tutor and I am counting on you! So post as much as you like...or better yet as much as you can! lol!

When we first moved to Nebraska in 1985, I discovered that the University of Nebraska had an outstanding gymnastics program. I saw a promo on tv for an upcoming meet and told hubby that I would like to go.

I overheard hubby talking to the girls and he said, "Look girls...mom really wants to go to this gymnastics meet so I really need one of you to volunteer to go with her. I would take her myself, but I just can't do gymnastics."

The oldest daughter chimed in with..."Gee Dad, I can't do gymnastics either...please don't make me go." And the youngest said..."Okay...I'll go...but YOU PEOPLE OWE ME!!!"

Well, younger daughter and I went to the girls meet that afternoon and enjoyed it so much we decided to stay for the boy's meet. We were blown away with competition. We went to every men's meet after that including the NCAA championships. Many of the young men that we watched compete and later met, became our Olympians...and they were our boys, especially John Rothlisberger and Trent Dimas, (who attended Nebraska).

Then we moved to the farmhouse in Iowa and lost contact with the sport. So PLEASE keep posting and bring me up to speed!

Hamsterlady
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07-03-2003

Friday, August 13, 2004 - 4:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Whoami, I also am loving your posts here (as well as everywhere else...lol)! Please don't stand in the corner.

Girl, I'm sitting a chair out in the middle of the room and that's going to be where you are seated.

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Friday, August 13, 2004 - 4:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I don't know about my having inside knowledge. After all, I didn't know about Paul Hamm being named team captain! LOL. And I ain't sitting on no chair in the center of the room! That might make people stare at me, and I'll get uncomfortable, and then I'll really clam up!

I suppose we know how the Hamm twins (Paul and Morgan) are competing in their second Olympics (At least I'm pretty sure I remember they were there in 2000). Anyone remember another set of twins (from USA) that made the Olympic team a few years back? Or maybe they were close to having them both make the team. I know I followed them for a few years, just cause of that interest angle. But now for the life of me I can't remember their names!

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Friday, August 13, 2004 - 7:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Don't have a clue on their names...but I'm adding a crown for Whoami so she is not sitting on a "chair" -- it's the Gymnastics Guru THRONE! LOL

I'm going to ditto everyone else...please keep imparting your knowledge! I love gymnastics but have very little time to follow the sport. Any and all information would be greatly appreciated!

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Friday, August 13, 2004 - 9:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Uh uh, no guru here! Really! I just mimic what I read over on GGMB.

I did pose the question about the other twins over there, and they said I must be thinking of the Hayden twins (Dan and Dennis). Neither made an Olympic team, but Dan was an alternate in 1984. Dan was 1986 US Champion, and Dennis was 1988 Silver medalist in the US Championships (with Dan taking bronze that same year).

Hamsterlady
Member

07-03-2003

Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Heads up! Mens Gymnastics is on right now on your local NBC station.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 1:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow...after watching the first group of Men's preliminaries...all I can say is...I sure hope the judges are as generous to the USA as they were to the Romanians.

Canada was also in this first group and we here in the USA didn't even get to see what they looked like! I sure hope you folks in Canada got better coverage!

Hamsterlady
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07-03-2003

Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
More troubles with Blaine tonight. :-(

Was feeling dizzy. They gave him some smelling salts. He's out of team uniform now.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 7:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wish they'd cover the Hamm twins more -- they don't need smelling salts! LOL

The Japanese and Chinese are looking pretty good, too.

I'm looking forward to the final and the individual competition. Don't forget -- Ladies are on tomorrow! (Sunday)

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 9:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Not sure I like Blaine suggesting it was all that head judge's fault he fell off the HB. Sure, having to change your routine like that has to be tough. But if you're as good as Blaine keeps saying he is......well.....'nuff said on that.

Over at GGMB, they linked to an article that quoted him as saying the judges were cheating! Really now. Like I said, I understand how it can unravel you. But try having a little class.

Just my .

Have to say I'm sort of glad he won't be in AA. At least now NBC won't be able to do the Blaine Wilson show. Maybe they'll even cover our reigning National and World Champ for a change. Seems like a lazy media to me. I mean, they're covering Blaine cause he's a recognizable name. So, cover our reigning National and World Champ in the way he deserves, and he'll be a recognizable name too!

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 6:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Whoami, I agree with you on every count. I was none too pleased with Mr. Wilson last night when in his interview he said, "If you can't beat us fairly...." implying that the Japanese head judge was cheating.

When they showed the young man who was the alternate, I was so wishing he would have made the team. He appeared so much more put together and not a hot head.

I agree...sure you would have liked to have done your practiced routine, but any gymnast worth his salt would have been able to pull it off with two days notice. Figure skaters do it all the time. If they miss a needed jump, they add another one somewhere.

Paul Hamm deserves a LOT more attention than he has been getting...but something tells me he doesn't need it or seek it out the way Mr. Wilson does.

BTW...for the record...I thought MORGAN Hamm really stepped up to the plate when he was needed. Those boys are real class.

I am looking forward to Paul Hamm in the all around. GOOOOO Paul!

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 3:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Heads up for those who want to know. I posted the prelim results for the Women's events in the Spoilers thread.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What amazes me is all of those empty seats! I went to gymnastics, every session, of the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles and for almost all sessions, it was packed! No seats left and could easily have sold my seat for most sessions.

Marysafan
Member

08-07-2000

Monday, August 16, 2004 - 1:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The U.S. men will send the following line-up into the team final to compete for the first U.S. men’s team medal since the 1984 men’s team won gold 20 years ago:

FX: Young, M. Hamm, P. Hamm, alt. Wilson

PH: McClure, M. Hamm, P. Hamm, alt. Gatson

SR: Young, Gatson, Wilson, alt. P. Hamm

VT: Young, M. Hamm, P. Hamm, alt. McClure

PB: Wilson, P. Hamm, Gatson, alt. McClure

HB: McClure, M. Hamm, P. Hamm, alt. Wilson

It looks like they will be using Blaine Wilson on two events. I think we have a really good chance at medaling and I can hardly wait until tonight.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, August 16, 2004 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tonight's comp should be great - I can't wait to watch. The U.S. girls choked a bit last night, but I expect them to get back on track for the team finals. Unfortunate for the girls who were really expected to compete in all-around or individual apparatus, though. The Romanians have two girls that could win the gold all-around - that Oanu girl (or however her name is spelled) was really solid last night. Very impressive.

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Monday, August 16, 2004 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
For those who can't wait to know what happened with the Men's Gymnastics Team Finals, I've just posted a spoiler in the spoiler thread.....

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, August 16, 2004 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Who - I just did the same thing LOL.

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Monday, August 16, 2004 - 2:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Great Minds Think Alike GAL! LOL.

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Monday, August 16, 2004 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ugh. Be prepared for another canned "The Blaine Wilson Show" tonight. NBC Nightly News just did a feature story on "the comeback kid," capatalizing not only his injury, but their stillborn son.

I certainly feel for him and is wife over the loss of their son. But jeepers. NBC did this whole "heartstring" thing on the windchimes over their son's grave, and how Blaine will "hear windchimes" as he competes.

How conveniently noble of the Wilson's to lose a son so NBC can make a story out of it.