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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 2:19 pm
I watched the competition and did not know Paul had won. I might have turned it off and gone to bed except the other American, can't remember his name, darn it, was doing so well at the time. When the others began to mess up, I stayed to see if Paul could pull out a bronze. Wow! That must be one of the best olympic moments in history. I loved it that the announcers had crunched the numbers and had it on the screen so we could see what he had to do to win the different medals. His bar performance was just spectacular. I wonder, since he thought he had no chance for anything but a bronze, if the pressure was off. I do not think the others have any room for complaint. There were a couple of scores that were given that I thought were exceptionally high for the performance. For example, the one just before Paul's. That one absolutely stunned me. Paul deserved his medal.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 2:28 pm
The commentators mentioned something about the Koreans lodging a complaint over a score after the qualifying round. I don't know what it was about, or what the outcome was. After reading about their whining last night, I was almost certain I'd wake up today to hear of a formal complaint. That would have sucked big time. Its sad cause thier whining is (for me anyway) tainting the accomplishment they did acheive as the first medalsists ever from Korea.
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Jan
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 2:58 pm
I have been watching olympics all day today and have not heard one word about complaining /whining re the US gymnastics results or the Greek sprinters at all anywhere? Where are you hearing this???
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 3:40 pm
Well, I can't find the quote now from the Koreans. The silver medalist said something about being "angry." Whether it was about losing the Gold he thought he had to Paul, or just angry he didn't do better.....well, I remember reading into it that he thought he should have won. But, the official quotes now on the NBC sites have him acting somewhat more graciously. The Koreans did file a protest after all. Article HERE And I did find the quote from the 4th place finisher Romanian fellow: SUCIU Quote
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 8:10 pm
Yep Jan - that's right and exactly what I told my whining dd last night when she was complaining about it to me over and over and over... I am just happy to have the option 
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, August 20, 2004 - 7:51 am
I'm not sure if I'm happier that Carly Patterson won, or that Khorkina lost. Colossus gets up and walks away every time Khorkina is on - calls her "the heroin addict." Truly the girl needs a sandwich, but it's her narcissistic behavior that makes me crazy. A sense of entitlement, almost - even though she seemed to be just going through the motions last night. What was that routine she went through with the Russian flag after winning the silver? Did someone ask her for an artistic interpretation of the fall of the Soviet Union? Man, I never liked her.
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Not1worry
Member
07-30-2002
| Friday, August 20, 2004 - 8:04 am
GAL, my DH can't stand her either. Last night, he kept changing the channel on the TV he was watching whenever she'd come on. At the end, he was muttering "Go on already, get out of here." I am somewhat fascinated by her. She is so tall for a gymnast and skinny. Last night I was thinking, how can those toothpick legs have enough power for her skills? I admire any gymnast who makes it to the Olympics in their 20's. And I was quite glad we didn't see the pouting, crying, and poor sportmanship we've seen from her other times when she didn't get gold. As much as I also think she's got an entitlement complex and is very narcissistic, I almost wanted her to win. I don't know why. I'm thrilled for Carly Patterson, and I think she definitely deserved the gold. Her floor routine was a completely higher level than Khorkina's, Carly just shone. But I keep seeing her compared to Mary Lou Retton. To me, Carly is not even close. Maybe because I was 13 yrs. old when I watched Mary Lou get all those 10s. But Mary Lou was such an incredible dynamo, she made you stand up and cheer in your living room. I don't think anyone in this crop of gymnasts can match Mary Lou. Sometimes it's hard to believe most of these girls are teenagers.
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Jagger
Member
08-07-2002
| Friday, August 20, 2004 - 8:22 am
I was glad again to see the US take another gymnastic title, but I do agree Carly Patterson is no Mary Lou. I missed the ending again last night. I have not been too thrilled at the coverage of the games this year, although they do basically cover it 24 hours a day some of the stuff is pretty boring for me (I'm sure others enjoy watching the ping pong and weight lifting but it just isn't for me). Not sure if NBC carries any of the events live on their other stations during the day or not, but I do know that they do have almost 24 hour coverage on the various channels. Should be a good weekend of sitting on my butt and watching the games, unless of course it is nice outside than I'll be out playing my own games.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Friday, August 20, 2004 - 9:34 pm
Has ANYONE said anything about Khorkina and ANOREXIA during the games? On Thurs. night when they showed a slow-mo of her vault, she looked like a concentration camp evacuee. Literally skeletal. When she smiles, she's bearable, and I am glad she was gracious in her silver medal win tonight. However, I won't miss seeing her at all in the future. DH wants to know who hires her for a MODEL? LOL
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, August 20, 2004 - 9:36 pm
Teachmichigan -- I said the EXACT same thing to my dh, though she must be physically strong to do what she's doing, yes?
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Jan
Member
08-01-2000
| Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 4:15 am
Gymnastics officials suspended after Korean protest Last Updated: Sat Aug 21 07:21:23 EDT 2004 CBC SPORTS ONLINE - The International Gymnastics Federation (FIG), the sport's world governing body, suspended three technical officials at the Athens Games on Saturday. The suspension comes after South Korea's protest over the difficulty level score of Olympic bronze medallist Yang Tae-young in the men's all-round competition was upheld. South Korea argued that Yang was given the wrong start value (9.9 instead of a 10) on the parallel bars, an error that the FIG confirmed on Saturday. Under FIG rules the judges' marks have to be accepted as a final decision and cannot be changed. As a result, American Paul Hamm will keep his gold medal. Written by CBC Sports Online staff CBC News
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Hamsterlady
Member
07-03-2003
| Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 4:47 am
And here's another story on it from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5770606/
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 4:56 am
What a shame. The medal will be forever tainted. I really feel bad for the Korean gymnast and Paul. I hate when this kind of thing happens.
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Jan
Member
08-01-2000
| Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 9:07 am
I think they should give them both gold medals just like they did the skaters last winter olympics.
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 3:17 pm
I was thinking that too Jan. This seems to be a pretty clear deal...especially since an American judge was the head judge at the time. I sure would go a long way to righting the wrong that was done. But unfortunately the Olympics have a long history of judging problems.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 3:22 pm
So, was nothing ever said (or protested) about the Chinese judge who changed the start value on two American gymnasts just days before the Olympics? I guess its okay when its done to an American, but not when its done to someone else, especially if an American benefits.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 9:53 am
The difference between the Ice Skating incident and the Gymnastics issue is that there was "pressure" put upon the judging at the Ice Skating event and their scores were tainted in that respect. For the Gymnastics there was no affect on the judging, just on the start value. Two judges agreed on the starting value so the American judge had no reason to question their decision and let it stand. It is a shame that his medal has lost some of it's luster, but it was still well earned after his incredible performance on ALL the other events (if it weren't for that terrible tumble off the mat on the vault, there wouldn't be any controversy). 'squeek'
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Not1worry
Member
07-30-2002
| Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 3:36 pm
Well, so much for Khorkina being a good sport. I read an interview of her spewing venom about how she is a Russian and the competition was decided before she even began. She claims the judges were scoring her lower because she isn't American. I think she expected them to give her the gold because this is her last Olympics and she's never won one. Also, in Sydney, she messed up her vault and it was learned later that the vault was set 5 inches too low. I think so much of this gymnastics controversy this year is induced by the media hype.
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Mak1
Member
08-12-2002
| Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 5:30 pm
spoilerspoilerspoilerspoilerspoilerspoilerspoiler Great job today by Kyle Shewfelt of Canada for his well-earned Gold in his floor exercise!! He seemed very nice in his interview and is a cutie, too..
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Essence
Member
01-12-2002
| Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 6:32 pm
Yay!!! for Annia Hatch winning the Silver on the vault. I'm glad she won it since that's why she was brought to the Olympics
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Essence
Member
01-12-2002
| Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 7:27 pm
And Yay!!! for Terin Humphrey and Courtney Kupets winning Silver and Bronze on uneven bars.
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Midlifer
Member
04-16-2003
| Monday, August 23, 2004 - 3:33 am
How cute was that Greek gymnast who won the gold? I was glad for him and his country, considering the scandals they have endured. I think that Greece has done a magnificent job, hosting these events!
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, August 23, 2004 - 4:19 am
Absolutely Midlifer!!! I have to feel sort of sorry for Svetlana Khorkina. Her Diva attitude aside, she really has brought a lot to the sport. For her to exit on such an embarrassing note is sad to see. Was I glad she didn't win gold? Yes. Was I glad to see her Olympic career end with a fall off her best event? No. I wonder if this will the the lasting image we have of her.....
Some are pretty upset she walked out of the arena before the event was over. But, maybe she was just worn out with putting on a brave and happy face. I saw her fighting back the tears when she went over to the chalk station before she re-mounted the uneven bars. 
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Midlifer
Member
04-16-2003
| Monday, August 23, 2004 - 10:14 am
I,too, felt sorry for her. But THEN I read about her whining about not getting the gold in the all-around, and my thought was...well, I would be modded if I wrote it. Sour grapes, sour grapes....
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, August 23, 2004 - 10:23 am
Did she participate in any of the individuals? I can't believe that USA Today was calling for Paul Hamm to give back his gold!!
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