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Deesandy
Member
08-12-2003
| Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 9:23 pm
I am new to the world of Bratz! I read that more Bratz dolls were sold than Barbie dolls last christmas. I bought my daughter a Bratz "head" so that she could brush her hair as a way to deal with her dislike of having her own hair brushed. Once home with the head, I discovered that this Bratz has quite the cleavage. Now I know that Barbie is famed for her figure, but I surely do not remember the make-up heads sporting anything below the neck. I guess what disappoints me the most is the way the item has been packaged, hiding the chest area. As a parent who doesn't want her child exposed to too much too soon, I probably would not have bought this in spite of the "Toy of the Year" sticker displayed. Isn't anything innocent anymore?
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 10:43 pm
I guess I am clueless... and naive... dd likes the bratz dolls for she doesnt lose the shoes, the whole foot is changed (huh?) and of course one of the dolls is named after her, other than that they are in a box, along side the bosomy barbie... can we do anything about the fashion industry stooping down to the 7yr old fashion? I HATE the choices I have to make, I refuse to take dd clothes shopping, too many temptations for a child.. imho... it all ties in tho..
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 10:58 pm
BRATZ are for the older girl..they were invented to catch the eyes of girls that thought they were too old for barbie(pre teen and even teens) I have the Dylan one! I love them!
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 6:20 am
Hilary has them all and she is 9, she loves them. She also has several shirts and 2 pairs of jeans. They have a great marketing thing going on here which I have fallen victim to.
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Deesandy
Member
08-12-2003
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 6:30 am
I can see myself getting caught up in the Bratz thing. I do not care for the clothes that are being made for young children. I saw a young girl, perhaps age seven, wearing a half top and jeans that hardly stayed up on her hips. Of course her mom was dressed in a similar way.
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Staceyinpa
Member
01-03-2003
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 10:17 am
I hate to be a disenting post but, I absolutely refuse to let my 9 yr old daughter have one or anything "Bratz" realated... I don't like the word, or the behavior it represents.. I don't like the fact that little girls nowadays are being pressured into growing up too fast.. the middrift tops - NO WAY. The lowriding hiphugger jeans - FORGET IT. The makeup and excessive jewlery.. NOPE. It's all part of the image and none of the visual as well as the behavioral qualities are those that I want to encourage my daughter to pick up. I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but that's just me.. am I a prude... I dont think so.. careful, concerned about the youth of today, you bet! I don't want my beautiful blue-eyed-blond growing up any quicker than necessary..
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Not1worry
Member
07-30-2002
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 10:36 am
No Bratz here either. The name alone is enough. I don't want DD thinking that being a brat is a good thing. She thinks they are scary looking anyway.
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Wargod
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 10:59 am
None here either. I can just copy Not's post, lol. My daughter is 5 1/2, and doesn't need to think being a brat is cool! Doesn't matter though, she thinks the Bratz are scary and they're way too old for her. Pamy, look away! Dakota doesn't really play with Barbies either, other than to strip them naked and cut their hair. Buying clothes for young girls is a nightmare! Kota was about 18 months old the first time I had trouble buying her clothes. There was no way then that I was going to dress my baby just like Britney Spears and theres no way now that I'm going to do it. It makes buying her clothes difficult to say the least! I want my little girl to stay little for a few more years, and imo she doesn't need to dress like a teen ager.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 10:59 am
blue eyed blondes are never the "minority!"
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 11:16 am
I guess I am in the real minority here, I find nothing wrong with the cropped tops and low(not vulgarly low) cut jeans. I actually think they look cute on her. If they make Hilary feel cool then to me it is all good, she is an A student, does ballet, voice and plays soccer as well as attends Sunday school every week so she has lots to feel good about herself. She chooses most of her own clothes and as long as her look is not the only thing that makes her feel good about herself then I see nothing wrong with it. She is still my innocent 9 year old blond haired blue eyed ,well rounded baby girl who is doing just fine. I have older girls and believe me, there are bigger issues to worry about than her being what she thinks is a little fashion Diva.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 11:36 am
My dd is 14 and I still don't allow the low riders with crop tops. My rule is that the 3 B's must be covered ... boobs, butt, and belly button.
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Wargod
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 11:59 am
Were you in chat the night I was complaining about taking Kota to try on summer clothes, grabbing a pair of shorts her size, and seeing her butt hang out of them, Lady? She was 3 at the time! This winter has actually been one of the easiest I've had shopping for her. I'm not sure if it's a new trend in clothes, or manufacturers are realizing that some things are inappropriate for young children, but I've found some of the cutest girly jeans that fit in all the right places, are comfortable for her, and are stylish. LOL, then I take a look at the summer clothes that are starting to come up and still see the short shorts and crop tops.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 12:08 pm
Yes, I was in there, War. It's horrible, I think. My dd and I are going to make her some cute capris for the summer and try to find some cute t-shirts. She does have quite a few pair of basketball shorts that almost hit her knees, so that's good too.
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Kaili
Member
08-31-2000
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 12:41 pm
The worst I think I have seen is thong underwear in little girl's sizes. Not to mention the suggestive t-shirts (the one word ones that say "sexy" and so forth across them) for little girls.
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Hippyt
Member
09-10-2001
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 12:52 pm
The thing with Bratz. Awhile back McDonald's was putting mini Bratz in happy meals. My 3 year old got a couple of them. Hubby and I joked that they dress like streetwalkers!
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Deesandy
Member
08-12-2003
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 1:03 pm
I am going to follow Ladytex's rule for dressing my child! Of course I want her to be in fashion. It is not what she thinks, or what her friends think that plays a part on how she dresses, but rather the child predator that could be out there and what might catch his eye. It just isn't safe to dress your child as an adult.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 1:18 pm
What I like about Bratz is that they are still DOLLS and the girls think it's ok to play with them. My daughter LOVES all her dolls...Barbie, Polly Pocket, American girl but takes alot of flack for still playing with them. (she's almost 10 and evidentally that's too old) Yes, they are slutty looking, but she is using her imagination, nuturing skills, and knows that we don't dress like dolls..just like we didn't dress like Barbie.
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 2:50 pm
Texannie, no way is she to old to play with dolls. I still don't see what is sexy about a little girl showing her belly. This isn't something new, I remember having short sets as a little girl that had the back out with just crossed straps and having little short tops. They looked more childish than anything.If anyone finds that attractive they are just being a sick pervert and I don't think it would matter what the child had on. Kids go to public pools with two piece bathing suits on and even back in the 50's little girls dresses were so short if they bent over you could see their frilly underwear. Any of the Bratz clothes that I bought Hilary are long sleeved teeshirts and jeans with the name on them, nothing out of the ordinary, just more expensive because I am being suckered by a marketing ploy and over indulging my child.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 2:59 pm
Ll..I don't think so either, but you would be amazed at the number of adults who even say "she still plays with dolls???" sad, we complain when they try to grow up to fast, but then we don't let them be kids.
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Not1worry
Member
07-30-2002
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 3:04 pm
Llkoolaid (ack, I first mistyped that and it said "Llkillaid"!), bear in mind that I am super conservative with my kids. DD doesn't get to wear a 2 piece swim suit, no matter how long the top is. Other than that, she's a pretty stylish kid. She's definitely got better fashion sense than I do. My theory on the little girl's clothes that look grown up is that I don't want to set a standard that I won't want when she's a teenager. I don't think there's anything wrong with showing a 6 yr. old's belly, but I don't want her doing it when she's 16. I want her to realize that what looks trendy to her might make a teenage boy think otherwise. Guys are visual creatures and I intend to make sure that DD knows not to take advantage of that. And not just teenage boys, I didn't even think of predators until Dee mentioned it. I realize that clothes won't keep them safe and a bath suit style won't force her to stick to the morals we've raised her with, but I am the MOM and that's my choice. We haven't had any issues over Bratz, since she's a Polly Pocket lover. That and those Care Bears. Sheesh...if I'd known they'd make a comeback I would have saved my old ones!
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Essence
Member
01-12-2002
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 4:14 pm
If you guys think the Bratz dolls are bad, what do you think about the Flava dolls? That's what my nieces asked for this past Christmas. Now those dolls are something. They didn't bother me and the parents of the girls I was buying them for didn't mind. I will say that my 4 yr old niece wanted one and was extremely upset when she opened up the Dora the Explorer she received from me instead of the Flava Doll she asked for. (I do draw the line somewhere.) But for the older girls (age 10), it wasn't a big deal (for me).
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Wargod
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 4:42 pm
I haven't seen those, Essence. Dora though is cool, I like her, lol. Not, Carebears are huge right now, along with My Little Pony's. Dakota's drag everywhere toy is Funshine bear, Sunny for short, that's almost as big as she is. My problem with the clothes isn't so much how anyone else looks at her, but how I do. At 5, I think it is inappropriate for her to dress like a mini-preteen or teen because she is neither, she's a little girl. She's happy because she has cute, stylish clothes (more happy that people compliment her on them rather than their stylish, lol,) and I'm happy because she still looks like a little girl.
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Deesandy
Member
08-12-2003
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 5:15 pm
No, I have not heard of Flava dolls, are they worse than Bratz? By the time I get the darned Bratz Head out of the box my daughter will be in college! Geez!
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Hippyt
Member
09-10-2001
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 6:28 pm
Oh,My Lord! I hate that! They have toys packaged like they are made out of pure gold these days! You need a screwdriver,scissors and work gloves just to get them out of the box!
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Monday, March 01, 2004 - 6:32 pm
I don't like children dressing like teens, either. I'm fortunate my daughter is still interested in being a child. I've told her that childhood is very short and she's lucky to have this time to have fun. As to Bratz, we've bought them for other little girl's birthday presents, and my daughter has a few. We don't make a big deal about them. She uses her Bratz and Barbies in her dollhouse and to take care of the horses in her stable. She has several horses (probably around 30 collectable Breyers) in her collection.
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