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Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 12:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am so ticked. And I bet there is a ranting thread somewhere, but i am too aggravated to find it, so please let me rant here. I think if I "let it all out" here, maybe I won't have the heart attack I feel I am about to have!

Our freaking lawyer called (re. our move) and now wants to change the closing date again. Only this time they want the sell and purchase to be on 2 different dates (may 20 and 21)! That means more $$$ cuz the movers will have to store our stuff overnight and then they charge about $150 for the movers to come back out a different day. Plus that increases the chance of our stuff getting wrecked cuz i am sure they have to bring the truck back to their "home" which is many miles from our house(s).

I am SOOOOOO mad I could spit. I just called to get electricity and phones, etc. turned off and on on the date I thought we had set. Oh, and guess what, the movers can't even do the move on the 21st (the buying close).

Now I KNOW there are more important things in life. I should be happy I have a healthy dh and ds and that we are able to move into such a nice new house. I have a great family, etc., but this still makes my blood pressure rise.

So thank you for listening. i am not sure if I feel better yet. But I probably will in a little bit.

I don't understand why this move is soooo much more wild/crazy/frustrating than our last move, which was only 4 years ago. There was little to no frustration with that one that I remember at all.

...deep breath and off to find a drug of some sort...

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Awwww, Julie.

You are TOTALLY justified in your outrage.

Many lawyers are a breed apart. I won't say what breed, mind you.

I hope you can talk him/her out of the hairbrained scheme. This is your life they're messing with.

Time, money, inconvenience....keeping my fingers crossed it works out for you. (hug)




Goddessatlaw
Member

07-19-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ahem!!

Jan
Member

08-01-2000

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOl GAL, I am sure Rupert meant many lawyers besides you and all the other legal wizzes who are smart enough to make TVCH their home :-):-)

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
So now our sellers' atty. is threatening to pull out if we don't do it on his day. They are so stupid. The house had been on the mkt. since August.....

Sunrvrose
Member

08-13-2001

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 1:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'd say "Go Ahead" the way property values are going up every day, you can probably resell for a higher price. :-)

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hee hee...GAL, m'dear....ya will notice I said 'many'...obviously you head the "good" list of lawyers.

Um....have I dug myself out????

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 3:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, now looks like I don't have a mover. Cuz looks like the only day we can close on the new house is the 21st.

Last week my atty.'s office ASSURED me that the closing date would be the 20th, so I cancelled the movers on the 21st.

Yesterday I threw out every postcard as well as every estimate that I got from other movers.

I think I am going to throw up.

Scootersmom
Member

08-10-2002

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 4:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
How frustrating (to say the least). Is there any chance at all that you can still move in a day early from the closing? Just like you planned? Can your atty check this out for you at all?

We were given permission to move some things a little early before our closing. But, we were dealing with our builders directly.

Good luck Julieboo. I'll be keeping good thoughts for you.

Juju2bigdog
Member

10-27-2000

Monday, May 10, 2004 - 5:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maybe the attorney has to play golf that day ... <throws a sideways glance at GAL and races off>

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 12:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh, Julieboo. I can understand your pain. Does your lawyer belong to a firm? Can you get someone else in the firm cover the settlement on the date originally set? If your lawyer cannot accommodate you, then let him know the storage costs, etc. will be deducted from his bill After all, that was HIS change. Sounds like 'brass ones', but . . . I know for sure this is something my DH would jump up and down about.

I also know finding a mover on a specific date is a lot tougher than anyone would imagine. I ran into that, too, and was so surprised.

I went through something difficult with the sale of our home and the move here to CT. I banged heads with the home inspector for a woman who really wanted to buy our home. The inspector brought her own heater people to check our place out, who said we needed a new heater because of a carbon monoxide leak. (We knew that was wrong, because (1) we were alive (!!) and (2)we had had it inspected every year by the local power company.)

Turned out there was collusion between the home inspector and her heater people. But the end result was that the buyer backed out. So we had to put the house back up for sale.

The good thing was that we sold the home for about $10,000 more than we had originally listed it for--6 months later. At the final walk through a day before settlement, the buyers fussed about all the garden tools and cans of paint (that matched those used to paint our house just before it was listed for sale) I'd left for them in the garage . . . didn't want them. So I had to get the garage emptied myself (DH was already in CT and working) and make sure the 'special pickup' was completed. I managed to get everything done. Garbagemen were due that morning.

I show up at settlement (with my dh on conference call) and the buyers tell me they stopped by the house and the garbage men hadn't been there and they wouldn't settle til that was done. I about flipped on the City. It got done. And so did settlement.

Our original plan was for me to stay put in DE til I got a job in CT, so we put all our things into storage for a while--before we finally decided about 4 months that I'd probably murder my mother if I didn't move to CT and rejoin Ed. (Good thing we didn't wait til I got a job, because 13 months now with no job, and I'd still be in DE).

Ok, I am done ranting! Know you have my sympathies, sweetie!

Twinkie
Member

09-24-2002

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 1:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Julie, I feel your pain. When we moved into this house 5 years ago we had so much run-around between realtors and lawyers I wanted them just shoot them all. But in the end we got moved. We used United Moving Company and they were very flexible with us. They REALLY wanted the job because it was a 2 day move with 6-8 movers and an 18 wheeler. It took all day each day but they were great! They loaded and unloaded the huge truck both days and were exhausted. And it cost us $5,000 just to move a mile away. This time we have to do it all ourselves with a U-Haul and all the friends we can muster and figure it will take about a couple of weeks to completely move. I'd kill for a moving company this time. Keep your head up, honey. And I'll do the same.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 6:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thank you all! We are (well were planning to) use United Moving Co. too.

Apparently settling on a closing date/time is a lawyer thing. So having 2 different dates on the contracts normally is not a problem. (We had the contract on our "buy" first with a date of 5/27. Then later we had the contract on a sell. That had a date of 5/21.)

I guess my lawyer (anyone know this for sure?) was supposed to get the dates straight. Now mind you, the contract on our "sell" (our current house) was signed about April 23. SO that is kind of a lot of time for just now to be showing a problem.

Many times I called the lawyer and realtor cuz I wanted a time and place given. Well I was pretty much told don't worry, they can't give that info til the title is ordered.

So anyways turns out our buyers' lawyer cannot close on the 21st. So that's why they switched to the 20th. (which our sellers won't or can't do.)

Now we could insist on a close of the 27th, which is fine for the "sell" cuz it is on the contract. But then we have the chance that we lose our "buy" (house we want), cuz that date is not on that contract.

So today I will be calling all sorts of moving companies.

Also, as it is now, we have the "sell" close on the 20th and the buy on the 21st. So... do we use our current movers to do a 2 day move (extra $$ for overnight storage and extra $$ for men coming back out-about $200 or $300. extra) or do we pay the new buyers rent for a night and then have another walkthru next day (they hold 1% in escrow in case of damage) and try to find a new mover who can do it all in one day. Or do we take the chance and try to do it all on the 27th?

Feedback?

And thanks!

Schoolmarm
Member

02-18-2001

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 6:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
OMG!!! Good luck Julie! Try for the 27th, I guess.

OR could the moving company pack you up in the afternoon of the 20th and park the truck out side the new house (or somewhere else) and unload it the morning of the 21st? At least your stuff wouldn't go into storage!

I'm thinking that I will be better off buying a vacant house when I'm house hunting in three weeks. I'm targetting a July move.

Mom is here for a week to "help". Pray that we don't kill each other. Dad left this morning with a car full of books. He will return on Friday with a pickup truck to take Mom and a big piano back to Illinois. This will get me down to one piano and one organ if the people who bought the square grand ever come to get it!

I think that I hate moving already!!!

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I would go ahead with it on the earlier dates simply because I sure wouldn't want to risk going back to square one. I'd eat the extra cost, keeping in mind that moving costs are tax deductible. (Don't know the legalities.)But I'd still negotiate with your lawyer to see if he would drop your fee by that much for this UN-streamlined process.

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My DH says that lawyers are NOT in charge, the principals are in charge. To me that means it comes down to what you can negotiate (in writing) with the buyers. So then, the 27th would make sense IF you can get them to agree (change the date). Can you feel them out or have your lawyer feel them out?

Tess
Member

04-13-2001

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 9:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This is all way out of my league since we've never had lawyers involved in any of our moves....just us, and our best friends who are also our real estate agents. My sister in Chicago also had lawyers and a royal mess on her hands when they moved. That's the only other time I've heard of lawyers getting involved. I guess I don't even understand their function in a real estate transaction. Sorry it's not working out well, Julie.

Colordeagua
Member

10-25-2003

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Whew! I'm in Chicago area too. When I bought the condo I'm still in 19 years ago, there were the two attorneys, me, and one or both of the real estate agents at the closing at the seller's attorney's office. I remember my attorney saying that it was one of the easiest / quickest closings she'd ever done.

When I sold my Mom's condo after she died, my attorney (my then and still current boss) was at the closing. (No attorney's fees for me. Yay!!) He said there were no problems with it. He came back and handed me the check. No real estate agents were involved. I am happy to say that there is a demand for condos in this building. If you ask an at-all reasonable price, no problems selling a unit. Just need to get the word out -- I'm selling.

As the seller, you do not need to be present at the closing -- just your attorney / agent.

Eliz87
Member

07-30-2001

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Julie, I can totally identify with you, although my situation wasn't as bad...

Yesterday was our closing date, at 10:00 a.m. We showed up at the attorney's office with our kids in tow to sign the papers. We were planning to close, go have lunch, and maybe go open up a bank account if there was time because I had the water company and cable company coming between 1 p.m. and 3 p.m. yesterday.

Well, we get to the office and they say, "Oh no...your appointment is not until 2 p.m." OMG I totally went ballistic. We had been staying in hotels for three nights already and we had our kids with us. We had already checked out of our hotel. My husband called the Friday before to CONFIRM the time!!! I asked them what we were supposed to do with two babies for FOUR HOURS. They informed us that we were "confused" because the date was the 10th, so we just thought it was at 10 a.m. TOTAL B.S.!!!!!!!!!

I called the realtor and left a nasty message and she claimed that she had no idea what time our closing was...she just knew it was on the 10th, but "nobody called her" to let her know the time. SHOULDN'T SHE HAVE MADE IT HER BUSINESS TO KNOW????? I was so mad at her I couldn't see straight. She didn't even schedule a final walk-through with us because "she didn't know" the time! UGH! And THEN I told her that I just needed access to the house because of the cable company coming and she said that she couldn't give me access because of "liability" issues. I was so mad I could've spit nails, I swear.

And then when we got to our house, we discovered that there is a carpet REMNANT in the family room which we THOUGHT was wall-to-wall carpet, so we had to hurry and find a place that could install carpet today, before our furniture and things are delivered tomorrow. What a freaking mess.

Well, it all worked out. We were in our house last night. But geez. These people just irk me. Moving is hard enough. Why make it harder?

Eliz87
Member

07-30-2001

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh...and I asked the realtor to GET RID OF the stove and refrigerator that are here, and she didn't do it. She says because we signed the contract that says they're included in the purchase price, it's OUR responsibility to discard them. What a gem.

I'm bringing my own stove and refrigerator so I'm hoping the movers can move these into the garage and maybe we can sell them later. I'd rather just put them on the curb to be honest. HASSLES!

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Eliz

When did you leave Ohio? (that was where you were, right?) I must not pay much attention to this board.

Congrats on getting IN! Aren't you glad it is over with?

Still trying to decide between a one or two day move...

Kaykay
Member

01-21-2004

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 11:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Eliz87, You may wantt to keep the old refrigerator. Sometime they come in handy for overflow for parties and holidays.

Congrats and sorry it was such a nighmare.

Juileboo - good luck to you!! Just tell those yahoos what you want and when you want it!! LOL

Eliz87
Member

07-30-2001

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 11:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Julie, we left Ohio on Sunday and moved in here yesterday. And YES, I am VERY GLAD it is over with! As long as there are no hitches getting our things delivered, then we will be all set AT LAST!

For our move, they packed our things on Thursday and then loaded the truck on Friday. We ended up using Mayflower who has been very good so far.

And Kaykay, yes, I am planning to save the refrigerator. In my fury while I was posting, I lost my mind! LOL But we are going to keep it in the garage so that I'll have some extra freezer space and we can also keep beverages, etc. in it. But we're still getting rid of the stove...no reason really to keep it since mine is only about three years old.

Kaykay
Member

01-21-2004

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 11:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good idea. I have one in my basement and it's a life saver during parties and holidays

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 7:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks for letting me rant!

Today things look much better. Got new movers. Even have an extra estimate coming out today.

All these little things were getting to me: cat ran away, found out dog has heartworm, car needed a few hundred $$ of work (leaking trans. fluid), oh-I love this one, my son;'s baptismal record seems to be missing. Apparently the church has records missing from June to Nov. of 1999. So I need to have 2 people write letters (and get them signed by a priest) stating the baptism did happen and they were there, find photos of the event and then I guess they'll issue a new certificate.

So the pressure's been getting to me.

Well, after a full week-almost to the minute, the cat came back. After more than $500, we got Lucy treated for heartworm. Car's been fixed. And we found photos of baptism.

I can hardly wait til about mid June, when all the packing, unpacking, closings, headaches are gone!

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ha! Julieboo, sounds like some things are falling into place. Good luck to you! I'll be checking in here again to see how everything finally works out with the move.

Ketchuplover
Member

08-30-2000

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 3:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
(((JULIEBOO)))

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 7:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Guess what? More aggravation! well I am really stressed out now! REALLY! I want to call the police.

Yesterday was big junk (Spring Cleaning) pick-up day where you could throw big stuff for free. (Normally here you need stickers)

Well included in our junk were 2 pieces of glass (shelves I think) Well the garbage men broke them leaving big and tiny pieces of glass. I called the garbage co. up twice (2 diff. numbers) and they never came back. I went out and cleaned what I could myself. Hard to do on bumpy concrete/blacktop.

That was yesterday afternoon. This morning I went out and when I came back there was I sign in the middle of the street

FREE GLASS!
u-pick off street
Courtesy of
The Walkers
128 Elm


I KNOW who left it. (same guy with my cat story if ya heard that one). I am so mad I am literally shaky. I want to call the police for harassment. Someone please talk me out of it (or maybe into it).

We close and move from this hell hole later this week (Thurs and fri) If something goes awry and we end up not closing, I think I will go insane (like I am not there already) Help!! i need someone to calm me. DH is gone for most of the day.

Well just as I was posting the above, I see him coming to the door. He starts bitchng me out and saying he is tired of picking up after us. He says all sorts of stuff. Mean stuff that is not even any of his business. Even stuff like he is tired of mowing our lawn. (He's never mowed our lawn!) He said he mowed the side lawn recently and was upset he didn't get a thank you. I believe he might have mowed the side--

omg, here he comes again.

(little later)

Well he came to quasi-apologize. He makes me crazy. I cannot believe he brought me to tears a few times. I usually never cry. (Plus I know it is HIM with the "mental Problem!") Even tho I now feel like I have a mental problem.

He left on a kinda good note-things patched up, I guess. Guess it is good I didn't call the police. He also added that it would not be a good idea to send DH down later. (Almost a threat) Oh, and that he was off his meds.

Whatever. Thanks for letting me vent again. Please say a prayer that we do close on this house smoothly. Also say a prayer for this man, as he probably needs it more than I do! (but go ahead and pray for me too!!!)



Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Nutty Neighbor Strikes Again! should be the headline for the previous post.

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh, Julieboo. Awww, hon, you will be out of there very soon. So just draw a pic of him and throw darts at it--inside your home!

I've had horrible neighbors in the past and know exactly how volcano-like the feelings are after something like this happens.

Venting here is good!! If he is off his meds, then, gulp, your best bet is to remain as calm and courteous as you can. Never can tell, you know.