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Kristylovesbb
Member
09-14-2000
| Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 12:56 pm
Texannie, that made me cry. I admire Mr. Reagan so very much and I am deeply affected by his death.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 1:58 pm
I just realized I erred in Nancy Reagan's birthday. According to IMDB, she will turn 83 on July 6. For some reason my brain tried to tell me it was July yesterday. I echo everyone's sentiments on Nancy. Her love and devotion actually remind me of my Aunt Betty, who also cared for her husband until he passed three years ago. I can remember worrying about her, knowing that her very existance for many years was all about him (he had physical problems, not Alzheimers). I thought, "wow, how is she going to handle it? What is she going to do now?" Well, her kids have been very good about making sure she gets out and has a life now. She actually keeps quite busy. What a very dear lady. I hope Mrs. Reagan also finds a way to have a life for herself now. I can actually see her getting involved again in the benefits and such she did once before.
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 2:06 pm
I was shocked to hear on Bill O'Reilly's show last night that Jacque Chirac, France's President, is at the G8 Summit at Sea Island, Georgia and is not going to attend Reagan's funeral ceremony tomorrow. He is flying back to France today and no representative from France will be at the ceremony. What a slap in the face to the memory of Reagan and his Cold War accomplishments and all Americans! The man is already here in our country, couldn't he just stay an extra day??? I just wonder how all the wonderful servicemen who just celebrated the DDay anniversary feel about how France is handling this. I feel this is very petty and arrogant if Chirac has an issue with Bush and chooses to disrespect the Reagans and all Americans to get back at Bush. Am I alone in being offended by this? AMC is running all of Reagan's movies today, he was such a handsome man, in addition to being a wonderful statesman, politician, and all-around good guy.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 3:17 pm
Yep, making me dislike him even more. But as you know, some people just can't see past politics. I heard on my local talk radio that the soldier I saw I lost his hands in Iraq.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 3:28 pm
I'd just as soon he get the hell off our land as soon as possible.
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Vee
Member
02-23-2004
| Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 6:26 pm
Some people, Mr. Chirac included, do not understand this concept so eloquently stated by President Reagan. "We are not a warlike people. Quite the opposite. We always seek to live in peace. We resort to force infrequently and with great reluctance, and only after we have determined that it is absolutely necessary. We are awed by the forces of destruction loose in the world in the nuclear era, but neither can we be naïve or foolish. Four times in my lifetime America has gone to war, bleeding the lives of its young men into the sands of beachheads, the fields of Europe, and the jungles and rice paddies of Asia. We know only too well that war comes not when the forces of freedom are strong, but when they are weak. It is then that tyrants are tempted." —Ronald Reagan
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Babyruth
Member
07-19-2001
| Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 6:43 pm
Are all the other G-8's staying for the funeral except him?
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Halfunit
Member
09-02-2001
| Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 6:47 pm
Nope. Canada, Russia, Japan and Mexico are all going home. ( If those are all part of the G8. )
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 7:01 pm
I just checked: when Francois Mitterand died, the US sent the VP, not the President, to his funeral, although apparently the President (Nixon) attended Charles de Gaulle's 1970 funeral, where he said "This is a great day for France."
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Kristylovesbb
Member
09-14-2000
| Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 8:07 pm
I am with Gal on this one. I don't want him here either!
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 4:20 am
What I heard last night from the media was there was such an outpouring of requests for a 'ticket' to be inside the cathedral at the funeral and not enough space for everyone requesting them, that some people were not able to attend.
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Schoolmarm
Member
02-18-2001
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 7:20 am
See my reflections of my day yesterday in Washington DC in the roadtrips thread, if you are interested.
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Rupertbear
Member
09-19-2003
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 8:10 am
Ronan Tynan, the Irish tenor just sang Ave Maria...it gave me chills! 
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 8:57 am
Magnificent eulogy from Margaret Thatcher. That got me. Lovely lady.
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Wendo
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 9:48 am
Personally, I thought Brian Mulroney's eulogy was one of the most heartfelt and beautiful I've ever heard. It was so obvious how much he truly thought of Reagan as a friend. GAL, Thatcher's was very nice, I agree.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 9:51 am
Is this going to recast tonight?
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Kristylovesbb
Member
09-14-2000
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 10:06 am
Margaret Thatcher's eulogy was beautifully done. She is such an eloquent speaker.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 10:14 am
I'm sure it will recast a number of times over the weekend on CSpan, Zachsmom. I've already told Colossus we'll sit down and watch it together, since he missed it. The Battle Hymn of the Republic just killed me - I was laughing, crying and clapping all at the same time. The choir and chamber orchestra were wonderful. I didn't recognize the hymn they played for the recessional, but that got me too. Poor Michael - he's appeared to take this hardest of the children, but also seems to be an outsider to the Nancy/Patty/RonJr. group. He was openly weeping by the end of the proceedings. I hope Nancy sleeps all the way back to California - she has to be so far beyond exhausted that she's running on autopilot.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 10:18 am
Tish, it's not unusual for the VP to be sent to funerals. When Bush was VP he used to say "you die, we fly". I feel for Michael. The media is treating him as an outsider too. If I hear one more time that he was the "adopted son" as if that is some how lesser, I will scream!
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Grands
Member
06-07-2004
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 10:32 am
Texannie, thank you. I thought that was crude to keep saying he was the "adopted" son. Perhaps it would have been better to say he was the "chosen" son. Did any one else watch Conan and see him making a joke about mourners passing by the casket. Now surely he has enough wisdom to find a joke without making fun of a death. I sure changed channels.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 10:35 am
No, I missed that, Grands. How awful. It's bad enough that Michael feels like an outsider because he was from the first marriage, but it just seems like a double whammy. I heard someone being interviewed yesterday, and she was asked about the relationship with the kids. Her comment was "Michael wanted so desperately to have a relationship, but you know he was adopted" I just couldn't believe my ears!!!
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Vee
Member
02-23-2004
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 1:16 pm
Michael certainly behaved like a true son today. I prefer to think of those who have been adopted as grafted into the family making them truly heirs just as much as naturally born children. I daresay that his father never made the comparison. This thread has been a real blessing to me over the last few days. Such wonderful posts!
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 1:56 pm
Another question, probably sort of silly. I'm watching a replay of the ceremonies today on CNN. They've just gone to pick up the casket from the Rotunda. Those who saluted (two soldiers doing hand salutes, and I believe four armed with rifles saluting with rifles) executed a very slow-motion salute (probably executed by a number of counts, rather than just going slow). I just wondered if there was a tradition based reason behind the slow motion, as opposed to "normal" speed. Now, in my drum corps days of experience, that slow-mo salute would have been done for a "cool" effect cause its visually pleasing. I just don't know that something based in tradition at this ceremony would be done just cause its "cool." Also I'm noticing what appears to be a difference in marching technique between the branches of service. For instance, as they're marking time, and a "halt" is called....the halt command is executed on the left foot "count," and some of the solders halted with the immediately next right foot count, whereas others halted with the next left count (the marching style I'm most familiar with). Nancy still amazes me. Now, I will have to admit I was not exactly a fan of hers during her First Lady years. The reasons now are not important, as any public figure is bound to gather a critical eye from time to time. Though I do know the basic reason why she wasn't a favorite of mine, I can barely remember now any specifics. I don't know if its cause the passage of time has lessened the "importance" of those reasons, or maybe my critical mind has mellowed over the years. All I know now is, how can anyone not respect her for the devotion she has shown, not only in the last ten years, but throughout their marriage. And the stamina she has had to have these last few days is unbelievable. What an incredibly strong woman.
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Rupertbear
Member
09-19-2003
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 3:04 pm
When the bells began to toll, as the motorcade pulled away from the cathedral, is when I felt the tears begin to fall. I hope Paul Martin, our Prime Minister had to leave due to something pressing, like the upcoming election...I would hate to think that Canada is snubbing out good neighbour. It was nice to see Prince Charles, Tony Blair the British P.M and even Mikail Gorbachev in the pews.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 3:21 pm
A Canadian Representative went...was it Adrienne Clarkson? and Brian Mulroney. I don't think Chirac needed to stay, was Putin there? Schroeder? any and all world leaders?
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