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The Reagan Funeral

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Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 12:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
At the end of NewsNight on CNN, they are playing Ray Charles' "America the Beautiful" with scenes from all the funeral activities of this week.

A great tie-in of 2 people we lost. Very fitting, and very touching.

Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 5:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Whoami said, "Nancy still amazes me. Now, I will have to admit I was not exactly a fan of hers during her First Lady years. The reasons now are not important, as any public figure is bound to gather a critical eye from time to time. Though I do know the basic reason why she wasn't a favorite of mine, I can barely remember now any specifics. I don't know if its cause the passage of time has lessened the 'importance' of those reasons, or maybe my critical mind has mellowed over the years."

I feel that I owe Nancy an apology for my former opinion of her. I like to think that I know something more about media manipulation these 20+ years later than I did as a younger woman. It is for good reason that the media as a whole gets a bad review from the public. According to some recent polling, they receive less respect than used car salesmen and rightfully so, in my opinion.

I remember that I was livid about the china she purchased for the White House. Why was I livid? Because I was gullible and believed everything I heard on the evening news. Now we know that Mrs. Reagan just wanted the White House to have a complete set of china so that the United States would be well represented at state affairs. Further we discover that she asked her personal friends to pay for them so it was never even the taxpayers' issue in the first place. We all need to learn to think for ourselves and not jump to the ready-made conclusions.

The Reagan family has my utmost appreciation and respect. I wish them all well.


Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 6:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thank You Sea.

Legalboxer
Member

11-17-2003

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 7:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i did hear that nixon's chil;dren were at the funeral - not sure sbout ike's.



Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 8:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was very glad to hear only from the children at the private funeral - they were all very composed, eloquent, funny and touching in their comments. I hope they cleared out the venue and Nancy and the children were truly permitted some private moments to say goodbye, though. Colossus and I lost it at different moments during the ceremony - for him it was the bagpiper playing "Amazing Grace," for me it was the presentation of the flag (although I was beginning to wonder whether the reverend would quiet himself long enough for it to take place). My favorite moment of the entire week was the choir and chamber orchestra taking the roof off the National Cathedral with the "Battle Hymn of the Republic." All in all, this week has been a wonderful and healing celebration of Reagan's life, and I appreciated every moment of it.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 9:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The bag pipes really set the mood for me...a sad, plaintive skirl, ...yet melodic also...it never fails to touch me very deeply and the decision to have the cameras capture the sunset, so we could enjoy one last 'Days Done', with President Reagan was very moving.

Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 9:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
GAL said: "All in all, this week has been a wonderful and healing celebration of Reagan's life, and I appreciated every moment of it."

I just want to echo that sentiment, and add that I've so much appreciated all of your postings in this thread. I had to watch mostly by myself this week, but because of this thread, I've felt like I was watching with all of you.

So, thanks to everyone for sharing.
I, for one, feel a renewed sense of patriotism this week!


Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 9:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ya gonna laugh but me too Carrie!

No, I'm not American but I live right next to y'all on the border, so I identify very closely with what goes on in your country.

Carrie92
Member

09-15-2003

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I keep forgetting you're a Canuck, Rupie. You seem so smart - must be why they make you live on the border, eh?

OK, I better stop before I get myself in trouble!


Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
<------One cheeky monkey also a.k.a Carrie.

<------Where all the really smart people reside (including the border-dwellers)

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My heart just goes out to Nancy, I do hope that she had some private time with the casket to say her final goodbye.

Does anyone know what the man in dress whites said to her as he gave her the flag? Is it a set statement that is used at all military funerals?

I do hope that the positive and optimistic way of life that President Reagan lived will transfuse itself into all our hearts, and that we all can follow Nancy's example of love and dedication for those we love.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Beach, I wondered too. Normally at a military funeral it's a combat death so it's "on behalf of a grateful nation, I present you with this flag" It seemed like he said more.

When the realization that this was the final goodbye hit her at the casket, my heart just broke.

What a wonderful and lovely tribute.

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I also wondered :-) and yet the other part of me was grateful for every tiny bit of privacy she was allowed.

When she broke down at the casket and the three kids rushed to her I wanted to throttle all the photographers with their constantly clicking shutters.. good grief.

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Jmm
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08-16-2002

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sea, My dd was very angry about that also. She said that she knew that they had lived their lives in the public eye, but some things are just wrong. And hearing all the cameras clicking at this point was just wrong in her opinion.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sea, I did too!!! It made me sick that the only sound heard was that damn clicking!

Strawberry
Member

07-18-2002

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought the same thing about the cameras clicking away. I thought it would have been nice for the family to have a private moment alone to say goodbye without any cameras or onlookers!

His family needed to say goodbye to their father/husband and I for one wouldn't have minded if they didn't record such a private moment!

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 2:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This so touched me!

Next to his gravesite, Reagan had these words inscribed: "I know in my heart that man is good. That what is right will always eventually triumph. And there is purpose and worth to each and every life."

Most definitely!!!!

Watching2
Member

07-07-2001

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 2:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The cameras clicking upset me, too. I also hoped that somehow they would actually get to have a private goodbye. My heart just broke for Nancy.

This is probably a stupid question, but has anyone heard about the actual burial? Was the concrete slab covering what was prepared or were they going to have to do that work after everyone left?

Moondance
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07-30-2000

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The Reagan's planned this funeral to a tee. The photographers ok'ed by Nancy. Everything was planned out and revised several times during the years. So I am sure Mrs. Reagan was aware what was going to happen. She wanted everything documented. There was even a blurb on the news last night saying how she ok'ed and instructed where the camera angles would be. I am sure she planned to have some alone time during this weekend. The Library is closed until Monday for the burial etc... so there is amble time for the family to have some alone time.

Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 4:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
According to the article that I read, the burial was completed sometime after three this morning as Secret Service agents, library officials, and funeral directors watched. President Reagan was buried in an underground tomb at the site where Mrs. Reagan was presented with the flag. The Reagan family had already left...hopefully Mrs. Reagan had some kind of closure. If not, I believe that she will certainly be able to visit there after hours as often as she would like. She will herself be buried there one day according to C-span.

The flag was presented by the commander of the nuclear aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan. The commander is Navy Capt. James A Symonds. The flag has special significance because it was flying over the carrier at the time of Ronald Reagan's death. Perhaps that is some of the explanation that was going on.


Strawberry
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07-18-2002

Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 6:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks for that info MrsMoonie :-) That makes me feel alot better. I missed that about her approving the camera angles and the library being closed. I was just hoping she would get some alone time for closure. I feel so sad for the kids and Nancy!

Kittystj
Member

08-10-2001

Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 8:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was glad to see Michel Reagan playing such a prominent part in the funeral. For many years he never was really accepted , or thought he wasn't. Read his book 'On the Outside Looking In', it is the story of a rather sad little boy

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 8:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Me too. How Nancy treated Maureen and Michael was not one of her finest moments. I hope she was able to put those feelings to rest in later years.

Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 5:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This is off the topic, but does anyone know when flags will return to full staff? Is it July 3, 4, 5, or something else?

Also, has anyone seen a flag mounted on the side of a building flying horizontal (straight out from the wall instead of at an angle) in order to comply with the half-mast decree? I read somewhere that that is the proper way to do it, but I haven't seen it and it looks kind of silly when I display the flag that way. Just wondering...


Jmm
Member

08-16-2002

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 5:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
When the flag of the United States is displayed from a mast projecting horizontally or at an angle from the window sill, balcony, or front of a building, the star field of the flag should be placed at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half-mast. If it cannot be moved to half mast, the flag may be flown at the top of the mast but should be horizontal. In normal times, the flag should be angled towards the sky.

Link

Strawberry
Member

07-18-2002

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 6:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Vee, I heard that President Bush decreed the flags would fly at 1/2 mass until July 5th. I can't remember where I read that though. I hope that's not incorrect :-)

Kaili
Member

08-31-2000

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 7:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It's supposed to be 25 days...or that's what my mom told me anyway (she said she heard it on the news 3 and a half weeks...I guessed that 25 would make more sense than 24 for the half week.

Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks everybody...ok, I'm just going to fly it that way even if it does look odd. Thanks for the link, Jmm.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Our newspaper said 30 days.

Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 5:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It has taken me awhile, but I think I have the facts...maybe. I was confused about whether the flag would return to full staff today, the 4th, or tomorrow. This site says tomorrow, July 5, 2004.

http://home.ccil.org/~mose/HalfMast.htm

Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 9:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Or maybe that's not what it says. I think I have a preposition problem...to the 5th or through the 5th. Pardon my fuzzy brain.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
July 3, 2004, 10:24AM

Mourning period for Reagan ends early
Associated Press
WASHINGTON -- The nation ends its formal mourning over the death of President Reagan on Saturday, when flags lowered to half-staff can again be flown at full-staff.

President Bush ordered flags flown at half-staff for 30 days after Reagan died on June 5 at age 93.

White House spokesman Jimmy Orr said, however, it was decided to raise the flags early, over the Fourth of July weekend, "in honor and tribute to the memory of President Reagan."


http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/politics/2660703

Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 5:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well that made a whole lot more sense! But here I was still flying my flag at half-staff! Thanks, Texannie, I'll put it up to the top tomorrow for sure.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 5:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think it's a lovely show of respect that you did it for the full month!