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The TVClubHouse: General Discussions: 2004 May - July: Health Center (ARCHIVES): Estrin D - A new Diet pill for menopausal women?? users admin

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Jan
Member

08-01-2000

Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 4:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Has anyone here heard about, or used, this product? Here is their weblink:

Estrin D

My sister is always looking for a magic bullet. She asked me to check this pill out before she uses it (as I am retired and she is overworked!)

Does anyone here have any knowledge or some opinions they would like to pass along to discourage her! (or maybe it actually is a good product??)

Jan
Member

08-01-2000

Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 4:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
BTW, this is what it says in their FAQ. Anyone here have medical/chemical knowledge? Is this a bunch of horsepatties??


quote:

How does Estrin-D™ help overcome menopausal and perimenopausal weight gain?
A: First, from the outset, Estrin-D was designed specifically to address weight gain in menopausal and perimenopausal women. In addition to Estrin-D's patented weight-loss compound, Estrin-D contains a proven hormonal balancing agent shown to reverse mood problems in postmenopausal women, combined with a proprietary, potent xanthine mixture (xanthines are caffeine and caffeine-like stimulants) to provide the energy you need to get you through your busy day... and night!
Secondly, Estrin-D has been shown to reduce the level of ghrelin (the so-called "hunger hormone"), thereby automatically reducing caloric intake. Third, Estrin-D increases resting metabolic rate, boosts energy levels and increases stamina in menopausal and perimenopausal women (so getting regular exercise won't seem like a chore). Finally, and Estrin-D elevates mood and helps stabilize your hormonal and emotional fluctuations... so you not only look great, but you feel great,




Juju2bigdog
Member

10-27-2000

Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 9:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Never heard of it, Jan, and uhhhhhhhh, I am old enough to qualify.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 9:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
the rest of the FAQ's don't sound so promising...

Can I take Estrin-D™ if I'm sensitive to stimulants?
A: Estrin-D contains a significantly potent xanthine (stimulant) mixture. If you are sensitive to stimulants it may be possible for you to take one capsule once a day (with your doctor's approval, of course) until your body becomes accustomed to Estrin-D.

Q: Can anyone use Estrin-D™?
A: No. Estrin-D is a powerful, non-ephedra stimulant-based weight control compound intended for otherwise healthy menopausal and perimenopausal women who need to lose weight. People who have hypertension, high blood pressure, diabetes, heart trouble, or who are sensitive to stimulants or caffeine should check with their health-care professional before taking Estrin-D


Mak1
Member

08-12-2002

Monday, April 05, 2004 - 5:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It sounds like speed.

ETA: That was just my random thought after reading Texannie's post, lol. I'm not quite awake yet. But, I still don't like the sound of it.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Monday, April 05, 2004 - 6:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I would be more curious as to how it "stabilizes your hormones" with caffiene.

Jan
Member

08-01-2000

Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks guys. I wrote back telling her it seemed like speed to me, that basically it is a stimulant and diuretic!! I hope she doesn't buy it :-(

Mak1
Member

08-12-2002

Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 3:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I hope she doesn't either. If she does, though, do you think she might want to come speed-spring clean my house? :-)

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 3:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well...if she is going to clean..then maybe it is a good medicine as long as you send her here next!

Jan
Member

08-01-2000

Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL No she is a hardworking real estate sales lady who has 4 teenage boys, a husband and works even on her days off (by phone). She has to have a cleaning lady herself!!! THe last thing she needs is something to make her more hyper!

Mak1
Member

08-12-2002

Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 6:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL! She needs and deserves a nice vacation...alone.

Dahli
Member

11-27-2000

Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 7:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I feel for her, she might be better served to check out Erika Schwartz MD's books ... The Hormone Solution or The 30 Day Natural Hormone Plan both of which will help her balance the whole endocrine system instead of just patching one 'rip in the canvas' - it's only gonna get tougher sorry to say

Jan
Member

08-01-2000

Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Dahli. I sent the titles on to my sister. She did agree, BTW, that the pills do NOT sound like a good idea.

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Friday, June 04, 2004 - 6:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Um....I kinda curious....I read many talking about perimenopausal symptoms on & off around here.

I'm curious how you know the symptoms are in that classification and btw...what are they?

To be honest, I suppose I should be starting to experience things but nothing so far.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Friday, June 04, 2004 - 6:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here are some good sites

http://www.johnleemd.com/

http://www.menopause-online.com/pmsormenopause.html

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Friday, June 04, 2004 - 6:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Annie....interesting reading.

So...when can I expect night sweats and all that other horrible stuff? lol ;)

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Friday, June 04, 2004 - 8:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
How old are you? I started getting the night sweats about 2 years ago. I am 45. My period almost completely stopped 4 years ago. I had a hysterectomy in August..so now I am on hormones..no more sweats.

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I'm glad they got it all sorted for you Annie. :-)

I'm 48 but I haven't had anything yet.

I've heard there is a small percent of women, I believe less than 5% who breeze right through with nary a symptom. I can only pray I'm one of those...lol ;)

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good luck!

Juju2bigdog
Member

10-27-2000

Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 8:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rupertbear, 47 is probably around average, although women seem to be getting into peri-menopause younger and younger anymore, even in their 30's.

Uhhhhhhhhh, RB, there won't be much mistaking it if you are going to have a rough time of it. It is sheer deadly hell, and that doesn't even include the hot flashes and the night sweats. I don't want to make too many people puke here, so you will have to e-mail me for details. I didn't even have a lot of the bad psychological stuff. Some of my friends seriously thought they were going crazy and were SO relieved to find out it was only peri-menopause and somewhat normal and treatable.

You are right, some women sail right through it. In general thinner women have a rougher time than heavier women because fat stores estrogen. Here's hoping you are one of the lucky ones, Rupertbear.

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 5:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Juju.....I was doing fine 'til I got to the bit where you said thinner women have a rougher time of it...accckkk!!

I thought too much estrogen was the enemy. I thought a little testosterone to balance things out were good.

Sheesh, looks like I was misinformed but I always read about estrogen leading to breast cancer, etc, etc.

Okay Juju...I'll e-mail ya for the gory details but don't scare me too much....lol ;)

Texasdeb
Member

05-23-2003

Monday, June 28, 2004 - 5:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm 46 & 9 months old. In the last couple wks I have become full blown (hot flashes, night sweats, not bad mood swings). I don't see anything I can't handle.

Herckleperckle
Member

11-20-2003

Monday, June 28, 2004 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I am going to ask my doc about it. Just to see what he says. If he recommends it, I would try it, as I have none of those health problems mentioned. I have gained weight and am not happy about it.

I think I had perimenopausal symptoms from my mid-thirties on. When menopause hit, it was because I had a hysterectomy (but still had one ovary). I never took any hormones --even at my doc's recommendation--because breast cancer runs in my family (maternal grandmother, mother, and sister). Just didn't trust it, and now I am glad I was so smart. (re: the info that came out about a year ago about the dangers of these hormones.)

But I have to say, for a couple years at work (I am 5'3" tall and weighed approx 125 at the time) I could go from nicely coiffed and dressed to soaking wet--from head to toe--in a matter of seconds when a hot flash hit. I worked in a dept of all females, so I would take a fan in with me to meetings. Back in my office, I kept a fan on--directed at my face. I remember a co-worker sitting atop our air conditioning unit (big old radiator-type thing) to get cool, too. I would have been embarrassed if there hadn't been others around me going through the same thing.

At night, I'd jump up in the middle of the night and tear off whatever I was wearing and open the refrigerator door---to stand in front of something cool--even though we had air conditioning.

My kids tell me I was an emotional roller coaster at times. (I don't remember that at all!!) That night stuff (and my fiddling with the thermostat would drive everyone crazy, but especially my hubby. (Still does.) It wasn't til much laster that my doc prescribed the anti-depressant, Effexor, supposedly to help with menopausal symptoms, that I noticed a huge change in my spirit. I felt sunnier than I had in a long time.

I am much better now (age 56 now)--no more night sweats-- but I still am not comfortable in the 70+ temperatures my husband prefers--and can still get what I guess is a hot flash. (You'd think I'd be done by now, but . . . ) I am most comfortable in 60-degree temps. Still take the Effexor because it helps me stay balanced emotionally (actually I think I needed it long before; I think I had a low-grade depression for years.)

So, it is possible to get through this stage without hormones, but it won't be the most comfortable period of your life.

Dahli
Member

11-27-2000

Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 4:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Suzanne Somers book 'The Sexy Years' is a not bad read and she talks a lot about bio-identical hormones. Dr Lee also a proponent of natural progesterone (not wild yam cream) revealed how we are terribly estrogen dominant (diet environment etc) and how that can cause different problems and cancers. There's so much good information out there and it's good to know a lot of this is controllable and that we have the power to do much of it ourselves...by listening to our own symptoms as it is soooo individual Not needing medical intervention for some reason makes me feel better at least

http://www.hormoneprofile.com/bioidentical.htm