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Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 6:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow...I could write a book. Donald should take his brother no question.

Sharon is the kind of woman who give wives a bad name. She is showing a lack of respect for Donald as a man and as a father. She is his wife not his mother and is way out of line even suggesting that he take their son. This man is capable of making this decision without any input from her.

It would be much better for Dad and son to throw the ball around in the back yard at this stage than expect son to sit through 9 innings. The son is way to young to "get" or even remember this outing. The brothers on the other hand will remember it for all the rest of their days.

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 7:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Donald should take his brother. Take the son when he gets a bit older. As one who has had to endure a fidgity, crochety young child at a game, I implore Donald to take his brother!!

Mamie316
Member

07-08-2003

Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Donald would remember the experience alright! I remember taking the kids to games when they were young and it is just no fun. You never know how long a game will last in baseball. Donald should take his brother , enjoy the game, and later do something his 4 year old will really enjoy, just the two of them.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The relationship and memories that the father shares with the son are theirs, I think it is ok for the mother to make the suggestion but after the fathers explanation of why he would rather go with his brother, she should leave it.

Teachmichigan
Member

07-22-2001

Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 3:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey Faeryy....above, were you thinking of "Gift of the Magi"...the watch chain / barette story? He sells watch to buy her barettes; she cuts off and sells hair to buy him watch chain. I've never seen the movie, but it's a fabulous short story by O. Henry.

Eliz87
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07-30-2001

Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 10:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
For sure he should take his brother. He and his son could have the "first game experience" when the son is 7 or 8 years old and would actually enjoy and remember it. And his wife...wowzers. She really needs to back off.

Faerygdds
Member

08-29-2000

Monday, April 19, 2004 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes Teach.. that was the one!!!

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 9:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I guess Its been long enough since the last post....

Update....on the radio show, Donald won by a landslide. I think Sharon got one or two votes, but I think they were more sympathy votes than anything. I don't think the listeners wanted her to be shut out of the voting. One listener that called in had a very good point, that the other patrons probably paid very good money for those particular seats, and wouldn't much appreciate a restless toddler running around and distracting them.

Today's Love Court centers around a young boy and his goldfish....Paul and Julie have a 3-year-old boy whose goldfish died while he was out of town visiting his grandma. Paul wants to go out and buy another goldfish that looks just like the one that died, and never tell the boy. Julie feels this would be a good time to be honest with the boy and have him learn about death. Should they buy another goldfish, or should they be honest with the boy?

Landi
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07-29-2002

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 9:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
when holly was 3, we had two fish... pete.. and repete. they died. we had a funeral. holly made a cross and painted it. she'd go out there and talk to them from time to time. when we moved when she was 7, she went to say goodbye to them. when her nana died later that year. she understood that she was gone. as she said "she went to people heaven, like the petes went to fishie heaven" honesty is the best policy. you can then let the child know whether to replace the fish.

Lkunkel
Member

10-29-2003

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 - 11:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Three is old enough to understand the basic concept of death.

I would open it as a learning experience and answer his questions directly and honestly.

So, I'm for Julie.

Faerygdds
Member

08-29-2000

Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 6:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I vote Julie...

We just lost my Uncle and My grandmother. My nephew is 3. Although dealing with the death of a family member (especially one he KNEW) is more difficult, his parents... well... we all felt it was best to tell all 3 kids (10, 8, 3) the whole truth and nothing but the truth. He took it hard. He didn't understand at first... and with 2 so close together I think he's waiting for someone else to die -- which is not altogether good. But it has given us a chance to explain to him -- in terms he can understand -- what death is and how we, as a family, will deal with it.

On Mother's day we had a toast to my Grandmother. The 8 year old got teary eyed -- so did many of us adults. The 10 year old just looked sad. The 3 year old raised his milk glass and looked up towards the sky and just said, "Love you Granny B!"

Honesty is always the best policy -- even when comes to death.
Sorry for being so long winded... guess I was just proud of our little guy! :-)

Kady
Member

07-30-2000

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 5:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree with Julie too. I will always remember the episode of Cosby when Rudy's goldfish died. That was such a great show. I love watching the repeats with my son. It had alot of good lessons blended in with the comedy.

Rache
Member

05-20-2004

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If kids are old enough to ask, they are old enough to know. That goes for death, sex, etc.



Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 2:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Interestingly enough, this is the first time TVCH is totally opposite from the Denver listeners who called in on this one. They agreed with Paul and suggested the son be allowed to be a little boy for a while longer......

So, new Love Court....

Today's Love Court involves a spat between two brothers (Kyle age 14, and Stuart, age 11), which resulted in a disagreement between their parents (Tania and Alan). It seems that Kyle bought three tickets to the Motocross for Stuart for his birthday. His intention was that he, his brother and his father all go together. As the event approached, Stuart decided that he wanted to take a friend, in place of his brother. Tania was in agreement with Stuart, with the idea the tickets were purchased for his birthday, and he should do with them as he pleased. Alan insists that Stuart should go with his brother, as originally intended. Who should go to the event?

Eliz87
Member

07-30-2001

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 9:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The gift was given with the intention of his brother going. His brother should go.

Sweetbabygirl
Member

08-31-2002

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 10:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If Stuart wants his friend to go along, then let him purchase a ticket for his friend....other than that, the attendees would be as originally planned, or no one would go.

Rache
Member

05-20-2004

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 10:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Blood is thicker than water.
I agree with sweetbabygirl.
Think about what will be remembered about the event five years from now. The fact that they had fun as a family? Or, the fact that one brother got left at home, only to hear about it for years to come. Who's to say the the 14 year old and the friend will still be friends in the years to come.
The boys will always be brothers.


Faerygdds
Member

08-29-2000

Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 6:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm split on this one... It doesn't say he (Kyle age 14) was given the tickets, but it says he PURCHASED them. In that case it makes it his call... HOWEVER... totally agree that he should take the little brother that he got all excited about going to motorcross with his big bro and Daddy.

Compromise... See if Mom and Dad can get another ticket for the friend. Tell Kyle it would be unfair to set aside the brother after he's been invited, but he will have to pay for the ticket out of his allowance. Explain to him that if tickets are not available that he will have to honor his original agreement to take the brother.

That's my take anyway...

Marysafan
Member

08-07-2000

Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Dang, I missed out the fish story. I am with Denver. The boy wasn't around to experience the death of the fish...so I would replace it. Granted it would be not possible to do that with a dog or a cat...but thankfully it's a fish...so no harm no foul. There will be plenty of other opportunities to teach the lad about death and dying.

For this one with the tickets. I am reading that Kyle the older brother bought three tickets. If he gave ONE of the tickets to his brother as a birthday gift, (which would have been the smart thing to do if he wanted to use one of the tickets himself) then little brother has no leg to stand on.

If Kyle gave ALL three tickets to his brother, then sorry Kyle, it's little brother's choice.

Even though, it would be really NICE for little brother to choose Kyle, a gift shouldn't be given with strings attached.

As a mom, however, Little brother would be getting a good talking to about doing what is in the best interest of the family...but it would still be his decision.



Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Funny, the website I got the current scenario was worded with so much confusion, I had to re-read it a few times to make sure who bought the tickets, who recieved them as a gift, and who was trying to back out on the original plan. I tried to rewrite it so it wouldn't be so confusing. Sorry.....

Anyway, Kyle (the older brother) bought the tickets for Stuart (the younger brother). The recipient of the tickets (Stuart) is the one who wants to take his friend in place of his brother (the one who gave the tickets as a gift, with the intention the family go).

Its just interesting that its still confusing! . I hope I cleared it up a bit (or at least didn't make it more confusing!).

Carry on.....I'll post a new one later after interest in this one peters out...


Denecee
Member

09-05-2002

Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree with the dad.

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Monday, July 05, 2004 - 3:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
In the original Love Court on my radio station, the listeners sided with Dad, saying Stuart should bring Kyle as orignially planned.

Here's a new one....

Trudy is considering a job offer she's just received. It will pay her $10,000 a year more than the position she is in now. The problem is, its her ex-boyfriend who recommended her for the job. She will be working for him, and she has no problem with that arrangement. Trudy's fiance Max however, is not in favor of the arrangement.

Should Trudy accept the job offer?


Marysafan
Member

08-07-2000

Monday, July 05, 2004 - 3:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Nope...plenty of other jobs...not so many fiances.