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Halfunit
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09-02-2001

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 4:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Zmom - C-SPAN is going to re-broadcast the service at the National Cathedral tonight after they show live coverage of the ceremony at the library, which I think starts 6-ish, your time.

Wendo
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08-07-2000

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 4:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Cinnamongirl, Putin did not go to the funeral. Schroeder, however, did attend.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 4:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
From what I understand, each country sent a representative to the funeral ceremony. Russia sent Gorbachev, Mexico sent Ms. Fox (president's wife), Canada sent Former PM Mulroney, Japan did have rep there, the new Iraqi president was there, as was Afghanistan's president. No representative was sent from France.

It was pointed out last night that in the 80s when Reagan sent a bomber mission from England to Libya in response to the murder of an American in Berlin that France (Mitterand) would not allow us to travel through their airspace and the mission was sent around France. So quite evidently, the lack of respect from France has been going on since the 80s.

Ironically though, the local paper stated that Chirac thoroughly enjoyed the food at the G8 Summit and compared it favorably to French food. He was said to especially enjoy a cheeseburger.

Ms. Thatcher's eulogy was very moving and so heartfelt, as was Former President's Bush.

Did anyone notice the sleepyheads in the crowd?

Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 4:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I did... I heard some commentators say they were "concentrating"... whatever.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 4:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They just arrived in Pt. Mugu. A reporter said that there were some people in the group protesting. The crowd starting singing Amazing Grace. Apparently, this quieted them down.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 4:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
France sent Former Pres. Valery Giscard d'Estaing and current foreign minister Michel Barnier.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 5:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Since sunset was Reagan's favorite time of day, the original plan to have the cameras facing the people was changed. Instead, the cameras will show the sunset.

Weinermr
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08-18-2001

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 5:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The circumstances of Margaret Thatcher's eulogy have touched me very deeply. Evidently she gave up all public speaking engagements a couple of years ago at the urging of her doctors because of a series of small strokes she had suffered. Several months ago she videotaped a eulogy, because she so strongly wanted to pay tribute to her friend and political ally.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 5:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Tish, that is good to know. Hopefully, Bill O'Reilly will bring that out in his show so that all will know. He stated last night that the French media was giving Chirac a hard time about not going to the funeral, so maybe their attendance was a response to that criticism.

Grannyg
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05-28-2002

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 5:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Weiner, that touched me too. It makes you understand the true friendship those two people shared.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 5:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Beach, I read the French papers every day on line [Le Monde and Le Figaro] and there has been nary a word about Pres. Chirac attending.

Scootersmom
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08-10-2002

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 5:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Margaret Thatcher was also determined to make the flight back to California today with Mrs. Reagan, to say her final goodbye. What a grand lady. What a true friend.



Moondance
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07-30-2000

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 5:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Heard the plane fly over... Simi is so quiet right now. Watching the motorcade right now on TV. Cowboy is trying to get home and probably has a really good view right now since he is in Thousand Oaks.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 6:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here I am in tears watching this. I can't help but wonder how I would have handled watching Kennedy's funeral as an adult. The fact that his death was of such horrible circumstance...it would have been so emotional.

I'm hope God is giving Nancy a big hug.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 6:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Abby, the whole world seemed to stop for President Kennedy and we were sad for a very long time. Just could not believe that he was taken from us in such a senseless manner.

We stopped driving our cars and looked at each other with open shock and grief.

Talk about riveted to the TV set...

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 6:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rosie, I'm 51 (I think we are about the same age). So, my memory was more sadness over how I heard about it and my teacher's reaction to it (I was in elementary school, we were sent home, and my teacher collapsed). So, what happened when I actually heard the news is more set in my mind than the funeral.

I don't even remember watching anything on TV about it. I'm going to call my Mom tonight. When I do, I'll ask her if she watched the funeral on TV. I don't remember that for some reason (except, of course, what I've later seen on TV of the funeral).

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 6:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Abby, thank you but I am a lot older than you. I was married with child at that time.

We really did pull over our cars and completely stop in shock.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was barely 6 (since Sept.) & in 1st grade. Other than what I've read & seen in documentory form, I have no memory of the Kennedy funeral. However, my sis who was 2 grades ahead said that her teacher broke down & had to leave the class room - that was her actual memory of what happened when he was shot.

I actually registered Democrat because of the whole Kennedy thing. Once I started understanding politics a bit, I realized I was more Republican & am that to this day.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh m'gosh...oh m'gosh Mrs Reagan is making me cry! They presented her with the flag and she lay it and her cheek on the coffin...

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 7:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm crying my freaking eyes out.

Now I know why Mrs. Reagan was so strong through all these several days of ceremony. Cause she still could hold on to him in some form.

Her final goodbye at the coffin is beyond words. I think she knew when she walked away from that coffin, she'd have said her final goodbye.

God Bless her.

Wendo
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08-07-2000

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 7:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes, I think that was her final goodbye as well. My goodness, how terribly sad. I wish her and her family peace.

*sniff*

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I really feel for Mrs. Reagan. She seems so small and fragile but she has been dignified and resolute through this. It's hard enough to grieve--let alone to have ten years to prepare for it--but to do it on national TV with all those cameras clicking away has to make it even more difficult.

The bagpipes playing Amazing Grace just tear my heart out. And the beautiful California landscape, with the sun disappears behind the mountains, made it a scene of sadness and promise.

Tkathy1954
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05-21-2004

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 8:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My son and daughter-law went to the rotunda yesterday evening they where in line for 6 hours but they said it was well worth the walk. I thought the ceremony in California was wonderful.


Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 9:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was crying myself, Who. I thought the same thing you did about Nancy saying her final good-bye.

Does anyone know the correct address (snail mail) to send condolences to the Reagan family?

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Friday, June 11, 2004 - 11:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Biloxi, I'm sure if you simply send it to the Reagan Library, Simi Valley, CA it will find them with absolutely no problem

eta:

Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and Museum
40 Presidential Drive
Simi Valley, CA 93065-0600

Phone: 800-410-8354
Fax: 805-577-4074
Email: reagan.library@nara.gov
Website: http://www.reagan.utexas.edu




I've watched some parts of this more than once.

I've been most touched by Nancy, who reached out and touched the coffin carrying her beloved, each time there was a chance. Today when she went to the coffin to say goodbye was simply beyond words and then when her children surrounded her... wow.

Michael Reagan touched me deeply as well.

All three kids, and I know they've had their differences and deep famiy problems, but how articulate each was in his/her own way.

Nancy does look drained. Remember she is 82 herself and a ten year job of agonizing and caring... yes, I know she had nursing care and more help than most caregivers, but she's rarely left the house overnight in ten years and I know from watching my dad as he watched my mom slowly decline for the last 15 years (emphysema) I know what a strain it is.

What a sunset!

What a view.. it made me think wistfully of a joyous time we had not so far from there at Moonie and Cowboy's sweet wedding.

As someone said today, no one could have told us we'd see Margaret Thatcher and Michael Gorbachev sitting side-by-side at Ronald Reagan's funeral, but, there they were. Larry King had Gorbachev as one of his commentators.

And all those ex presidents sitting in one place! Carter, Ford and Bush senior, octegenarians all, the younger Bush and Clinton.

All so solemn, and their wives and to a man and woman, I wonder if each was reflecting on how it will be when it is their time...

Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg attended, I wonder if any of the Nixon or Eisenhower children were there?

As someone said today, the Kennedy funeral was so different.. then we were sad, to be sure, but also angry and bewildered. Today it was more sadness and a celebration.

I was 17 and a freshman at Berkeley in November of 63, racing clear across campus from one class to another, and heard someone comment that the stock market was going to react, but I didn't have time to findout why,, sitting in my French class, my TA was a Haitian man who spoke Spanish and French, but very little English.. a latecoming student came in and said he had heard the president had been shot on his transister radio .. the TA soundly rejected this .. c'est impossible ! But after awhile an official notice arrived and we were walking back to our dorms and apartments.. I didn't see the funeral because there were only a couple of TVs in the dorm..

Anyway, today was incredibly touching .