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Kimmo
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05-02-2003

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lisa, it's so close! :-) Good luck. I hope you get your wish to not be induced. With Rowan I felt like I could have stayed pregnant another month and not felt anything. I find it really hard to imagine actually going into labor after being induced the first time.

Do you know if you'll take something for the pain? I'm going to try hypnobirthing this time. I didn't have anything for the pain last time, I'm wondering if I will this time.

I need to think of a good present from the baby....Weird since it's right after Rowan's birthday and Christmas! I just have to think of something really special and save it for then.

And, of course, beautiful picture...Can't wait for the first new family picture!

Enbwife
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 1:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Julie - we have discussed some names and like one in particular but fear it's a little too "out there". Like people will look at us very weird when we tell them the name. We're not telling people what our names are. We're strange that way. Nate wasn't named until he was 2 wks old (LOL).
Kimmo, we bought Nate a really cool spiderman doll and video from the baby for his visit to the hospital. He LOVES spiderman so I knew the doll would really be liked by him. What's hypnobirthing? I'm really hoping to go drug free this time. With Nate I was induced with pitocin, then given nubain (did nothing), then had the epidural after 10 hours (did nearly nothing), and didn't deliver for 12 hours after that with EXTREME back labour - urghhhh. When I was pushing the epidural was empty... So I figure if I've endured that, maybe I could go drug free with this one and hopefully she'll be facing the right way and it will be quicker overall. Who knows though until I'm there right?

Jewels
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09-23-2000

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good luck, Lisa! Can't wait to hear how it all goes and see pictues of your new little girl. I love that picture of you, you look fabulous!



Marej
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09-20-2002

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lisa, Neil & Nate, I hope everything goes well.

Kimmo
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05-02-2003

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 5:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It sounds like Nate will love his gift! Rowan is hard to gauge. He had been asking for a Care Bear for weeks, then someone gave him one and he just asked for another one. Meanwhile, a connect- the-dot book sends him to cloud nine.

I can't wait to hear what the baby's name is :-)

Apparently, with hypnobirthing, you visualize and relax yourself into a state where you don't feel pain-- The idea is that we have conditioned ourselves as a society to expect pain and thus we feel pain, etc, and you can condition yourself to expect the opposite. Here's an article on it...

I hadn't heard of it until my first midwife visits this year. I'm taking it all with a big grain of salt, since I did feel pain the first time-- But a lot of hypnobirthing seems to be just progressive relaxation and that has worked for me to relax and sleep, so why not for giving birth. I was completely *not* relaxed when Rowan was born! I don't even know if I was even trying to be relaxed. So, we'll see what happens if I try...

Graceunderfyre
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01-21-2004

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 10:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kimmo -

I want to correct you. . . hypnobirthing WILL NOT keep you from feeling pain. It's more of a method to help you feel in control and decide how much to feel. Make sure you really practice with your hubby. Also, the main idea behind the whole method is to enter into childbirth without fear. Dr. Grant Read-Dick (is that his name?) saw that those who went into the act not worrying about pain and concentrating on what should happen naturally everything seems to go smoother.

I gave birth using this method last year. My first contraction was just after midnight and I was pushing just after 8:30am and Jay was out 20 minutes later. I remember asking the midwife if I pushed effectively (they emphasize this a lot in class) and she laughed at me and said 20 minutes of pushing had better be considered effective. I had not experience labor before so I didn't realize that I pretty much skipped the 1st stage of labor with contrations that were 15 minutes or so apart. When I called the midwife at 4am, she didn't believe that I was as far along because I sounded so calm (DH had been doing light touch massage and another calming technique from class) so she had me go lie back down told DH to time the contractions and to call her when they were 3 minutes apart. He times for like 10 minutes, said he had to go to the bathroom but really called the midwife freaking because I was at 2 minutes apart. I remember the ride to the birth center VERY clearly - in fact my husband made a couple wrong turns which I pointed out to him right away, but I had absolutely NO pain during that ride because I was also in the process of listening to Marie's tape. Once I got to the center, I was unable to get back into a completely relaxed state because the contractions were coming so fast, but I did use the pain control excerises you learn in class. It was really awesome!

BTW, this method has been around since the 50s or so, it's not that new.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 10:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
All I can say is the epidural saved my life. I was in HUGE pain til I got it. Don't know why I waited so long to get it. And I always wondered why some moms want to go "drug free." It's not like you get a medal or anything. But then again, my pain threshold is very low.

Graceunderfyre
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01-21-2004

Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 10:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Julie :-) you are too funny

I chose no drugs because I was afraid of what the epidural would do to me. I can only take certain brand names of drugs or else strange things happen - like taking the wrong kind of sudafed once put me out for 2 days - my husband was really freaked out at the end of the first day til my mom realized he'd bought the wrong kind.

I actually went to the hospital because of my blood pressure but the whole thing happened so fast that they never got around to getting the fetal monitoring system going let alone the drugs before I was pushing.

That's the nice thing about hypnobirthing, they encourage you not to use drugs but if you do, you learn about different types and alternatives in class so you can be better informed - I kinda felt like that whole thing was enabling me to feel more in control. I detest hospitals and it helped me a lot to know exactly what was happening and what I could do to help.

Kimmo
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05-02-2003

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 3:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks, Grace-- I don't expect to feel no pain, but as you said, keep it in control. I was so distressed the first time, I wasn't even trying to relax. And I really was dreading the pain last time, I still wonder if that is why I was overdue and had to be induced.

I was just trying to give a basic description based on the Mongan book (obviously too basic :-)). I'm glad to hear how it really works! I want to read Childbirth Without Fear (Grantly Dick-Read), too.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 6:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey Kimmo, what are your name choices?

Lisa, the good thing is with a girl you can name her a "far out" name without much hassle. Not quite sure it is fair, but a girl can have a very unusual name, but if a boy has a "far out" name, it's more open to shoot down.

Enbwife
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I've been reading about hypnobirthing since yesterday and it sounds good. Wish I had more time to study it. I'm actually not that scared of the pain this time because I've done it before. I'm more excited to go into labour and have the baby and meet her so I'll try to focus on that. I had braxton hicks contractions Friday night and last night for almost 1 hour both times. Thought I was in labour last night, but alas, no...
Julie - you are right about us women not getting a medal if we go drug free, but for me, all the drugs I had with Nate did next to nothing and we were both totally out of it after for 24 hrs. Nate wouldn't nurse and was really drowsy. I'd rather skip it all if I can, but if I'm absolutely dying and my back is going to break into 10 pieces, I'll be yelling for something!! :-)

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Guess it's different for all of us. Ryan was not affected one iota, came out screaming and latched on right away...

The thing I liked second best about the epidural (first being relief from the pain) is that it helped NOT wipe me out so I could be more alert for the first hours of motherhood...

At any rate, drugs or not, good luck Lisa and Kimmo and any other moms-to-be or moms-to-be-again. Enjoy any remaining full nights of sleep you have. What a happy Thanksgiving and Christmas you will have.

Oh, I do have a "clause" on the unusual names thing. It seems an unusual name is "accepted" for a boy if it is a last name. (Carter, Walker, Owen, etc...)

Kimmo
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05-02-2003

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 12:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
For names, if it's a girl, Ada; a boy, Thomas (DH's pick). I really hope it's a girl! :-) I think the name Rowan is kind of unique but OK because it sounds like Owen-- But I remember the first days of telling his name and people going, "What? Roland?"

For drugs, I was creeped out by the idea of getting injected in that spinal area (so I didn't want an epidural)-- Yet as pain relief for the back labor, I got sterile water injected into 4 or 5 parts of my back, which was probably more painful and (for me) not effective-- I'm sure the results only lasted 5 minutes! But I didn't want to take anything oral like a narcotic (which I imagined would make us dopey). Anyway, the midwife who delivered Rowan was completely anti-drug so she wouldn't give you drugs if you asked (yes, I tried!). :-)

Hard to believe Nate's little sister is almost here!


Kimmo
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05-02-2003

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 12:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
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Graceunderfyre
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01-21-2004

Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 11:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Julie what do you think of the name apple? I still don't like it.

I think naming your kids is an important responsibility because they are stuck with it for the rest of their lives, you know? There are these twin boys at the YMCA - their names are Cliff and Clifford. I mean come on, how can you do that?

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 6:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Apple, that is a bit "out there", even for a girl...

I think there is a "clause" however, for an "out there" name. (The clause is it's okay for a very "out there name if you have a very common last name.)

Our last name is VERY common (Walker.) And after naming my son a fairly common name (Ryan), I wish I had named him something much more unique, as we have already come across a lot of Ryan Walkers...

Graceunderfyre
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01-21-2004

Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 6:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
really? that's interesting. I wouldn't have put Ryan in the common name category, but now that I think about it you are right. . .

I guess I was thinking of Apple Blythe Alison Martin. . .I mean I know Alison is a common name, but Blythe isn't. . .

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 6:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Cliff and Clifford? Oh my! My mil teaches and she had twins named Lenard and Clenard. She told me of some other oddities she has come across, but I forget them...I think Sparkle was one of them. Oh, and Female (pronounced FEE-mah-lay)

Graceunderfyre
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01-21-2004

Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 6:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
huh, they should take away your parenting license at the hospital for some of these names... this discussion reminds me of a scene in mean girls

Enbwife
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08-14-2000

Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ha ha! Cliff and Clifford - how dumb can you be? And Lenard and Clenard. Are these people just totally clueless??? Kimmo - I like Ada. My Grandma and Neil's Grandma were both named Ada and my sis named my neice Ava, which is becoming more common now. I'm not sure about Apple. But since Gwyneth Peltrow named her daughter that, it's probably going to be used. Our name isn't that far out there, but close. :-)

Danas15146
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03-31-2004

Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
When I moved into my first apartment the girls next door were named:

Tamika
Tarika
Tolika
Tashika

It was impossible to keep them straight since they were very close in age and looked so much alike. All I could remember was the oldest was Tamika and the youngest was Tolika (they called her Toto.)

I am not sure about Apple either. I wanted to name Samantha Summer, but DH wasn't liking that at all!

Lisa - what name did you decide on?

Skootz
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07-23-2003

Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
There is a mother of a girl at dd's school her name is Cinnamon..I find that a hard one ... I cannot imagine her in a nursing home with the name Cinnamon (JMHO) Not my choice

Enbwife
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08-14-2000

Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 7:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
We're not sharing our names right now Danas... We're kind of private on names until we decide - then we announce it and that is that. My parents are very opinionated on names and will cut down our top choice in a second, so we just don't tell anyone. Hopefully very soon I'll be posting the birth story and name right here!! Please, oh please let it be soon - I'm officially overdue now. :-)

Graceunderfyre
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01-21-2004

Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 7:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lisa that's smart to wait :-) I know of lots of people that change their minds once the baby comes - I know we did.

We really should start a new thread on baby names.

Kaykay
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01-21-2004

Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I really enjoy reading this thread :-) I kid you not a girl I went to college with named her son Phart - she claims you say it Pha Heart. I say it's Fart.
A boy in my DD's class is named Harshit - some people??

I thought Iwas going out on a limb naming my son Cole but these some of these names make Cole look like a common name like John!! LOL!!!