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Skootz
Member

07-23-2003

Friday, November 19, 2004 - 4:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Great pictures Landi..love the cupboards..someday we will do our kitchen here and that is the type of wood I want for my "dream" kitchen. The shelving is a great look for organizing

Lumbele
Member

07-12-2002

Friday, November 19, 2004 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Love your new kitchen, Landi, especially the cupboards and tiled counter.

Question, I've been receiving these Kelli Missions for about a year now, but can't recall any of them ever being to wash brushes and combs during bathroom week. Did I just miss that or is it just a personal quirk of mine?LOL

Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Friday, November 19, 2004 - 9:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
There are a few little issues like this, aren't there? They never tell me when to change the cat litter either!

Landi
Member

07-29-2002

Friday, November 19, 2004 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i do the hairbrushes/combs every 2 weeks, and i use scoopable cat litter that gets scooped every day. when the litter gets low in the box i add a little more. about every two weeks i remove half of the litter, and replace with clean litter. so far i haven't had any smell problem, my babies use their box without outside messes, and everyone is happy.

Lumbele
Member

07-12-2002

Friday, November 19, 2004 - 4:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They're counting on your nose, Vee.
Sounds like a good plan, Landi.

Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 2:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks to Litter Locker (see Cat thread) I really don't have that problem. I scoop, sprinkle, and change litter twice a week. I have one fussy, fussy kitty.

I always wash all the combs and brushes whenever I clean the bathroom completely...usually once a week. I use shampoo because, if it's good for washing hair, it must be good for brushes and combs.

Haven't done a blooming thing today except shop. And for all my shopping, I only have one gift so at this rate, I completely lack efficiency. It's going to be a mad rush if I don't get crackin'.

Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 3:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
"Please! Please! Please! If you tell anyone about our group; help them to understand the way the emails work! This is not a magic pill that if you only read one email that you are magically going to get your home clean and get rid of the CHAOS. It takes practice every day over several months to get those cobwebs cleaned out of your head. This is when the house starts to come together." FlyLady

Just wanted to share a thought from FlyLady from today's e-mail. This is just in case anyone thought that FlyLady is some sort of magic...it's closer, in my opinion, than she thinks, though. It's like being thrown a lifeline.

Skootz and Julie, do either of you subscribe to FlyLady's e-mails? She had some really interesting viewpoints on the Oprah show with the OCD lady and her messy, nasty house.

Catfat
Member

02-27-2002

Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 10:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Vee, I subscibe to Flylady and am veerrrryyy slowly getting my life together. You are right, it is not magic, but is a lifeline, which is very welcome in my chaotic, messy life. Every little bit helps.
I saw a little bit of Opera and the messy woman. Gawd, I felt so sorry for her the way those two women were snooping and sniffing and kept saying unbelievably rude things about her. She was asking for help and they could only think of making nasty jokes about it. Even Opera was piling the crap onto her. Did they end up cleaning her house or what? Did they help her out or just make fun of her? I missed most of it. And Opera going on and on about the diamonds, maybe they were Cubic Zirconia and keeping herself neat and glamourous was the only way the woman had of staying sane. Like Opera is Miss Precious Perfect or something.

Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Monday, November 22, 2004 - 5:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Catfat! I'm so glad to see your post! How have you been? It's wonderful to see that you are applying the FlyLady steps to your life. Yes! You're right, it is a way of digging out of the CHAOS for sure, but it takes time and practice. For me, it was a way of digging out of the OCD of perpetual cleaning.

I know what you mean about that Oprah show, I hope that perhaps something good will come of this with a follow-up show with FlyLady herself as the featured guest. Wouldn't that be cool? Hmmmm, perhaps I'll write Oprah a letter. As for Oprah's behavior and attitude that day...well, it just goes to show that anyone can have a bad day...a really bad day! I didn't think that the expert was so pleased with her attitude either from the way she came back after one of her commercial breaks to say that some had noticed that she was agitated. Oh well, if something good comes out of it, it will be worth the struggle. I just hope that poor woman doesn't hit the bottle or something after that onslaught of negativity. Yup, the Brits were a bit snooty to be sure...

So, Catfat, don't be a stranger...come in and let us know where you are in the process. We love hearing from you! (Oh, BTW, Lk is in the midst of a fibro flare so we're keeping her in our thoughts and prayers. She hasn't been able to post for a few weeks...) That's why this thread may look a bit discombobulated itself!

Also, for any of you who may be Starting Over fans, there will be a new houseguest today/this week who has the problem of being unable to cope with her home. It will be the reason for her being in the house. Perhaps we'll find something of value or perhaps we'll just wind up screaming at the t.v.!

Lumbele
Member

07-12-2002

Monday, November 22, 2004 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Great to see you posting, Catfat.
There are not enough digits on me to count the times off that I heard "her emails drove me crazy". So telling ppl about Flylady really should include the hint of the digest version of emails. Still think in the first 2 months single emails may be better, but after that - enough already. The onslaught of emails may very well drive some new members away if they don't learn about the other way.
Vee, please, let us know if SO comes up with a good "coping" idea.
Well, I did some nagging (still good at that) and got my shelves in the pantry/former linen closet doubled. The whole idea was great, but linen shelves tend to be high. Finding anything when cans etc are stacked to the max became a pain, ergo nag-nag-nag.
This morning I rearranged and am happy as a clam. Real oversight, no need for inventory lists, YAY!!!!!!!!!!!

Reader234
Member

08-13-2000

Monday, November 22, 2004 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hi Vee (and everyone) Today's SO show is kind of driving me over the edge! I used to subscribe to Flylady, and before that I had the SLOB sisters books, and tried working through that. I've never handled the issue of clutter, anymore than I've handled the issue of my weight, and lack of motivation to exercise. I'm seeing that I'm hanging on to my clutter for a purpose, as I'm hanging on to my bad food habits, its a comfort issue.

I mostly think I cant change, so I shouldnt bother posting. I cant tell you how much time I've spent on a couple of 'diet' boards (and I'm more talking of healthy living btw! I look at recipes adn think about adding one more veggie, just one...)

Anyway, I'm seeing changes, feeling changes. This weekend DS and I cleaned, we threw away 8 or 9 bags of trash, mostly from the basement, the dining room, and DD and DS bedrooms. IT felt good to have others pitching in, I wasnt alone.

Lumbele
Member

07-12-2002

Monday, November 22, 2004 - 12:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yay, Reader!!! That's 8 or 9 bags full you'll never have to deal with again.
Don't beat yourself up so much. If you want to make changes in your life, make them one at a time. Every time you take on a lot at once it tends to overwhelm so you just give up. With babysteps it may take a lot longer, but imh it has a much better chance of sticking.

Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Monday, November 22, 2004 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hiya, Reader and Lumbele! I see that Lum has been giving her excellent advice so I can only back her up and say, "amen."

Let's not allow our perfectionistic tendencies to rear their ugly heads...babysteps, babysteps, babysteps. Congrats for boogying those bags right out of your life. It's a great start.

Lum, are you going to post some photos of your new cupboard space? I'd love to see how you set it up!

Gotta get back to my cleaning...bedrooms just need a vacuuming and I'll be all done. Have to see SO today for sure, after all that Reader had to say about it!

Schoolmarm
Member

02-18-2001

Monday, November 22, 2004 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The trash can is your best friend....the trash can is your best friend....the trash can is your best friend!



Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Monday, November 22, 2004 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Marm, are you reporting in all the way from Germany?
Thinking of you! Hope that you are having a wonderful time...now German folks are mighty clean, aren't they? I mean they even sweep the forest! (Lumbele, this is true isn't it?)

Schoolmarm
Member

02-18-2001

Monday, November 22, 2004 - 12:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sheesh, EVERYTHING's clean here! NO clutter! They really don't have junk mail, so my house would probably be clean!

Reader234
Member

08-13-2000

Monday, November 22, 2004 - 4:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think watching the CLean Sweep Shows, the Life's Laundry (Europe) is helping me get over my "collections" of clutter.

I cleaned my fridge!! *G, mostly to fit the turkey in, but after watching how clean is your house, I knew I had to face my fridge, one shelf in particular! I used baking soda and vinegar to help get the shelf clean, the bubbles help and the non abrasive baking soda helps.

I think my next step is to clean the coach.

Lumbele
Member

07-12-2002

Monday, November 22, 2004 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Vee, haven't seen anyone with a broom in the forest yet, but walk around town on Saturday late morning/mid afternoon (mostly in the country), and you'll see many ppl sweeping their yards and the sidewalks along their property.
Reader, that used to be a dreaded job for me, too. But now with the fridge boogies I go through my fridges (I have 3 now) every week, wipe up little messes immediately and only have to do minor maintenance.
Vee, nothing special about my pantry, just shelves for tall containers (oil/vinegar jugs etc.), baking goods/desserts, soups, vegetables/legumes, sauces/stock/canned fish-meat, side dishes, fruit, breakfast stuff, condiments. On the floor is a basket with packets of gravy, pudding etc. and my trusted step stool so I can reach the top shelves.LOL
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Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Monday, November 22, 2004 - 6:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Is this your pantry, Lum? For real? If so, I see what you mean about turning the linen closet into a pantry. It looks marvelous and I bet you are very pleased with the results. So you put in more shelves or something to give the extra room. You're giving me ideas because I have one wicked inefficient linen closet just about this size. Hmmmmm....

Lum, this is my story about Germans sweeping the forest. As you may remember, my folks have a cottage in NB. Anyway, their neighbor is married to a German gal whose parents visited one summer when I was there. She cleaned like crazy for their arrival. Once they did arrive, they were kind of antsy...didn't much like the idea of sitting in the lounge chair to watch the loons on the lake and all. So they began to clean the pine grove around the cottages. It started with the big stuff...fallen trees and overgrown brush, then serious raking, and it all culminated with the daily sweeping of the grove. I'd never seen anything like it before or since, but that grove sure looked nice. Ever since I have been guilty of stereotyping Germans as ultra clean.

The SO show really was interesting. I think I have learned something. Apparently, whether one is very neat or very messy, both types of people are suffering with the very same issues...control and perfectionism, etc. That makes sense doesn't it? So there's no need to be hyper-critical of one another since both types are really two peas in a pod.

Yeah for you, Reader, getting your fridge boogied. That gal's assignment on SO must've inspired you. Like Lum, I don't have to take everything out like that anymore. I just keep the fridge boogied and wipe off bottles as they're used, and stuff like that. It takes a little practice, but it sure is easier this way. I'm feeling good vibes from you since I think you are about ready to take the plunge...in fact, I think that you already have!

Lumbele
Member

07-12-2002

Monday, November 22, 2004 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yep, that's 'er, Vee. DH just put in shelves halfway between the existing shelves and voila.

LOL, the clearing of the grove I can see Germans considering necessary, the sweeping a touch over the top.
Don't think it's a stereotype. Germans do take care of their surroundings/property. Would not behoove them well not to. The city/county would let them know real quick if it was time to clean up. Things like old car wrecks sitting in the yard etc that are fairly normal in North America, wouldn't go over well there. Different strokes,...


Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Monday, November 22, 2004 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Different and preferably so, in my opinion, but that's just my being judgmental again!

Catfat
Member

02-27-2002

Monday, November 22, 2004 - 11:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sorry to change the subject, but, well, I just got throughly trounced on another board and, boy, am I glad to be back here.
(Catfat comes crawling in with her tail between her legs. meooooow-ow-ow-ow.)
It was a board where artists post pictures of their work and invite people to critique it. So I did. Big mistake. They don't want the truth, only praise for these awful drawings copied hair for hair from photographs. When I gave my opinion, politely of course, I was called everything except a Communist.
Man, I an SO out of there. I would much rather be among fellow Flypersons.
sniff, snivel

Vee
Member

02-23-2004

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 7:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well then, welcome home, Catfat. {{{{{Catfat}}}}}

Lumbele
Member

07-12-2002

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
(((Catfat))), no "friendly mods" over there, eh?
Stick with us, we'll muddle through our clutter together.

Catfat
Member

02-27-2002

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lum, there are mods over there, but their posts were the most venomous of all. I was absolutely stunned. This is really upsetting to me, I live in an artist community and we pride ourselves on being able to critique each others' work honestly, which is one reason why our artists are so excellent.
Anyway, thanks for your hugs, both of you. I don't intend to dwell on this forever.
XXXOOO