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Max
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08-12-2000

Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 12:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
First, it sounds like it's time for the 18-year-old and the 21-year-old to move out on their own. They're old enough to do that. Staging a "protest" will not have any effect on their mom, IMHO.

Second, it sounds like the 16-year-old might want to explore the option of living permanently with her dad. Any idea what his take is on all this? I think if I were the ex-spouse in the situation, I'd be doing everything I could to get my daughter out of the situation.

I'm glad she has you to talk to. Bless your heart for being there for her.

Happymom
Member

01-20-2003

Monday, December 06, 2004 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That behavior of that mom is totally lame. The selfish choices that she has made are detrimental to her children. It disgusts me that people act like she does. It is her job to parent her children properly and appropriately. When one becomes a parent, one gives up the right to selfish behavior that is detrimental to the children. Right and wrong is pretty clear cut in this situation. That mom is choosing wrong over right.

Escapee
Member

06-15-2004

Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 2:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am not sure where this question should go, but since this is an opinion thread, here goes:

What would you do:

I am sure you have all heard me talk about my aunt. She's not normal to say the least. Her latest business venture, and I use the term loosely, is a pyramid scheme of some sort. She's kinda of a health "NUT" and her new business is selling mutli vitamins. Have any of you heard of this? Well, it's not so much the selling of the vitamins as it is the recruiting people to sell the vitamins for you, they make a profit, you make a profit, the person above you and so on. Her goal is to recruit one new person per week. Good Grief. These vitamins cost approxamately $100-$150 per month. She says she's never felt better, these are so worth the money, and yadda yadda yadda. Everytime she calls and talks about it we can tell it's a scripted sales pitch. She's contacted every single one of us and used her pitch on us. And every single one of us (family) has told her we aren't interested in purchasing or selling vitamins. We told her that pyramid schemes were illegal, but she says there a way around that. Excuse me?? When we told her we weren't interested she told us that she expected her family to support her in her new "career". I almost peed, folks, seriously. We told her we do support you, we just aren't going to support you financially. So hopefully she's given up on us, but here's the problem. For the last two years, my family on my grandfather's side has gotten together for a family reunion. It is a really nice affair. Barbeque, swimming, stories, kids playing, people laughing, you get the jist. Just a good family time. My aunt has refused to attend these family reunions, her reasoning is that she isn't close to that side of the family, (well none of us are, but this is how you become close.) We know it's because she's mad at my uncle for something that happened 10 YEARS AGO! She can't let things go, and he didn't even do anything to her, but back to the subject. What should we do if she decides to contact the extended family that any other time she won't have anything to do with? They will be more than a little uncomfortable, some of them are really elderly, and some of them will be down right appalled. Yes, she would do this if she hasn't already.

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 6:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Part of me says do nothing as you aren't responsible for her actions or theirs if they choose to buy them or not and part of me says maybe you should warn them if you think they would really give up their money to her.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 6:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I totally agree with Mocha!

Max
Member

08-12-2000

Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 1:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You aren't responsible for what she does or for 'protecting' any of the extended family members. Therefore, I'd say do nothing unless someone asks for assistance in fending her off.

However, if she decides to come to your family gathering and does so solely to pitch her product line, then whoever is hosting the event should pull her aside as soon as you see her doing it and politely, but firmly tell her that this is a time for family bonding and not an opportunity for her to recruit people to her business or to sell her products. To do so at the family gathering is disrespectful not only to the host, but to all the family members present, particularly since she has refused to attent the annual event in the past. It's important that this is done privately, not as a big dramatic scene in front of the family. (Of course, she might turn it into drama, but that's her racket, not yours.)

Oh, and the business she's involved in is called Multi-Level Marketing (MLM). It's the legal version of pyramid schemes -- very similar but slightly changed to be legal. I don't remember the details of the difference, but I'm sure you could find them on the web if you're morbidly curious. :-)

Escapee
Member

06-15-2004

Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 8:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ok, so burn that bridge when we come to it right?

Can you believe this woman? You wouldn't believe the stories I could tell you regarding things she has done. She used to be normal.

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Money can change people. Or it's something in those vitamins.

Escapee
Member

06-15-2004

Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No, she's been weird way before this. She had an accident about 30 years ago, totally changed her personality, I guess. It was before me. Her children are what really get me.

Graceunderfyre
Member

01-21-2004

Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 10:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
sorry I just read this - we have family members like that too. We sorta just laugh them off because we know they are not all together there. I think family (even the extended ones we rarely see) have an unwritten rule somewhere that says we will have kooky people that get sucked into obviously stupid schemes in our family and we will just tolerate them and know not to get involved ourselves.