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Tess
Member
04-13-2001
| Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 8:17 pm
The desert/camel: My words to the camel were: "Thank you" The person at the oasis was Karuuna and that fits quite well. The feeling at being at the end of the journey was pure relief. My replacement is someone from my "other life" and there is no rivalry although a long time ago (20 years maybe) there were hints of one but nothing even remotely connected with a love life. In the orchestra I was torn between an instrument I have playes (violin) and one I've always wanted to play (flute)....but I chose flute. Birthday: receive a card: my niece in California biggest package: my sister.
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Melfie1222
Member
07-29-2002
| Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 10:49 pm
I'll skip the camel in the desert one. For the musical instrument, I chose String Bass For the card, I picked an on/off/on/off again who is one of my best friends, I haven't heard from him in awhile. The present was from my mom.
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Cindori
Member
07-25-2003
| Monday, July 19, 2004 - 5:13 am
Deep in the Mountains The mountains and the sea - nature has a power that draws us to her. After all, we are all nature's children, born into her world and fed on her bounty. No matter what marvels technology may develop, getting back to nature lets us feel truly alive. Medical science may make advances, but the best medicine will always be nature's own healing power. Your next journey will take you back to that green world, and what better setting for you to rediscover your natural self? 1. You have set off to climb a mountain, in search of a fabulously rare stone. What is your impression of the mountain as you stand at its foot? 2. After a hard search, you still haven't found the stone, and now the sun has fallen. What will you do next? 3. You have finally discovered the stone you were seeking. What kind of stone is it? Describe its size, weight, and value. 4. Now it is time to come down from the mountain and return home. What parting words do you have for the mountain, and what is its reply? What your answers mean . . . The mountain that looms before you represents your father, or a father figure in your life. In psychological terms, it is a manifestation of the archetype of the "wise old man." The stone you seek symbolizes abilities and strengths you must discover within yourself on your own journey to adult independence. 1. Your impression of the mountain shows the image you have of your father. Was it difficult and unforgiving? Or did you have an idealized image of a magnificent peak that somehow seemed to welcome you and encourage you in your quest? 2. The stone you are searching for represents your as yet undiscovered talent or strength. Your response to this question shows whether you will ever realized that untapped potential. People who say they'd keep searching for the stone no matter what tend to show the same persistence and determination in their own lives, never giving up even when efforts seem fruitless. Those who said they'd call it quits for the day but come back again to continue the search are the type who pace themselves, spreading their efforts over a long period of time. There are probably more than a few late bloomers in this group. People who gave up looking for the stone altogether are in danger of never fulfilling their true potential. 3. The way you described the stone shows your feelings of self-worth. How big and heavy was it, and what did you think of its value? "Oh, about twenty dollars or so." Hmmm, that's not much of an appraisal, is it? "It turned out to be a huge diamond worth millions!" Hold on now, let's not get carried away with ourselves. 4. Your parting words to the mountain reveal what you have always wanted, but never been able, to say to your father. The mountain's reply shows your idea about his feelings for you. Do you recognize any of these patterns? You: "Thanks for everything." Mountain: "You take care of yourself." Did you have that kind of ideal exchange? Or did it go more like this? You: "Well, it looks like I'm finally through with you." Mountain: "You can say that again!" Maybe it's time you and your father sat down for a talk.
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Herckleperckle
Member
11-20-2003
| Monday, July 19, 2004 - 6:14 am
1. Awe and respect 2. Take a nap and start anew 3. Able to hold in my hand easily, but with a satisfying (but not overly heavy) weight, flat, and, in particular, when stroked, gives the bearer a sense of being centered and whole 4. I would thank it for giving me shelter and yielding its treasure only after a worthy effort I find this does NOT ring true for me in the father figure assignment. I haven't seen my own father for 28 years and have no desire to see him again. (My parents had a terrible, abusive marriage that my sister and I suffered through until our high school years. Believe it or not, I don't hate him; I understand his motivations and how his early life molded him to be the way he was; just don't excuse him.)
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Cindori
Member
07-25-2003
| Monday, July 19, 2004 - 6:17 am
Herc, that one didn't fit for me, either. Most of them do, though.
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Jan
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, July 19, 2004 - 8:46 am
HP..once again we match! In fact every single word I your reply applies to me right down to the last word in the last sentence  
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Babyruth
Member
07-19-2001
| Monday, July 19, 2004 - 9:04 am
Interesting and fun thread! I just completed the first questions, am moving on to the rest. Here's my answers so far: (They seem fairly accurate, I suppose) 3. "Those who said the bird turns white are cool and decisive under pressure".... LOL, like Kaili, I answered GREEN before seeing that is was multiple choice and green was not among them. 1. "Isn't that a beautiful picture?" 2. "A pile of loose trash spills out onto the street".... 1. "I'd find an awning or tree to stand under and wait for the rain to stop."...
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Monday, July 19, 2004 - 10:54 am
These are great Cindori! Might have to pick up a book like this for our family week at the cottages next week. My answers for the mountain (I have no idea what this says about me and my dad!) 1. "What have I got myself into now?" 2. I figured I'd spend the night and look again in the morning. 3. My stone was apple-sized, heavy, blue and sparkly. 4. I thanked the mountain... the mountain said "Give me my stone back." ...I left. My relationship with my dad is a strange one...my dad is a strange one! Others: Bird: White Painting: Isn't it beautiful? Trash: the apple cores and such (would be just my luck the grossest stuff would come out) Rain: Awning Camel: 1. Thanks Camel, your trip was harder than mine, 2. Jesus was at my oasis, 3. Thank God!, 4. my DH (interesting.. I figured the only way for him to know what I went through was to go through it himself...but we are competitive sometimes...maybe I do think of him as my rival? hmm.. I'll have him answer and see what his answers are!) Symphony: violin - because I used to play B-day: I picked my cousin who I'd hate to get a card from! DH for the biggest gift - cause he loves me the most... but I do take him for granted at times.
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Lkunkel
Member
10-29-2003
| Monday, July 19, 2004 - 11:03 am
Camel & Desert: 01. "Thank you for what you have done thus far; just put one foot in front of the other." 02. Bill (my DH) 03. Relief and joy at making it there safely, but sad that the journey is over. 04. Elizabeth, my friend. (This one does make sense, sort of.) A Night at the Symphony: Flute On Your Birthday: 01. LOL. I said a card signed by a passel of TVCH'ers! 02. DH. Deep In The Mountains: 01. The mountain looks like Mt. Fuji, but is more welcoming. 02. Pitch my tent, crawl into a sleeping bag, and resume the hunt in the morning. 3. The stone is approximately 5" in diameter, heart-shaped, and is in different shades of green--from deep forest to spring green. It is unusually light for its size. Since the stone called out to me, it is, to me, priceless. 4. "Thank you for your challenges, your shelter, and your gift."
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Mak1
Member
08-12-2002
| Monday, July 19, 2004 - 2:26 pm
Mountain: 1. Impressive and awe-inspiring 2. Enjoy the peaceful night, sleep, and resume search in the morning. 3. Palm-sized, my birthstone sapphire, smooth and a nice weight to carry, worth a lot to me but not sure of a dollar value 4. "Thank you for sharing yourself with me." The mountain replied "It was a pleasure getting to know you, my dear." (side note: my father died when I was 6, so I find this response that very clearly popped into my head quite poignant.)
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Vee
Member
02-23-2004
| Monday, July 19, 2004 - 5:23 pm
Oh that really is poignant, Mak1. What interests me about this is that it is possible to really get into these scenarios and create meaning from it. My mountain was awesome and majestic; the stone was heavy with lots of crystals, but not worth much to anyone but myself; I said goodbye and thank you to the mountain for my new-found treasure. I am not sure that I can equate it to my father, though.
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Justavice
Member
07-12-2003
| Monday, July 19, 2004 - 5:25 pm
Mountain: 1. Cold 2. Start again tomorrow 3. Just like a 2 inch pink stone I had as a little girl 4. Thank you for taking care of my stone all these years.
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Cindori
Member
07-25-2003
| Monday, July 19, 2004 - 5:32 pm
Vee, as far as really getting into these scenarios goes, it's important to read the introductory paragraph or two that "sets up" the scenario. It's intended to put you into the right mindset for your answers to be the most meaningful. There are actually 10 rules in the beginning of the book to help you get the most out of the exercises. I haven't actually posted them because it seemed to be working fine without them, but if anyone is interested I can try to paraphrase them tomorrow. (I left the book at work. ) And Mak, I agree, yours was incredibly poignant. 
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Vee
Member
02-23-2004
| Monday, July 19, 2004 - 9:45 pm
I'd be interested, Cindori, if it's not too much trouble. Thanks! 
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Herckleperckle
Member
11-20-2003
| Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 5:39 am
Hey, Jan, twin!! Just checked back in here for a new one before I left for the day! Guess Cindori does have other things to do, though! (Like lead a RL, LOL!!) Cindori, I wasn't expecting to LOVE this so much! Thank you for expanding my mind!! I am going to buy a book, too. Any particular one you'd recommend?
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Cindori
Member
07-25-2003
| Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 5:49 am
Sorry Herc, sometimes more than one day attacks me at a time, you know? I'll be posting another exercise and the rules in a bit. And, {{{Herc and DH}}} Oh, the book I have is Kokology: The Game of Self-Discovery. It's the best one I've found; easy to read, not a lot of psych-speak.
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Faerygdds
Member
08-29-2000
| Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 6:23 am
I have been thoroughly enjoying these... On my mountain... 1. The mountain was majestic and formidable, yet inviting! (this describes exactly how I feel about my Dad! He's one of those teddy bears in grizzly bear clothing. He's a huggy bear, but don't make him mad! ) 2. Set up camp, roast some marshmallows and start fresh in the morning. (Which is exactly what I tend to do in life... If I fail.. I just set up camp, have a little fun, and move on forward the next day) 3. The stone was a large rose quartz -- one of my favorite stones... it was fairly large in size, but would still fit in the palm of my hand. It's monetary value meant nothing to me -- it was the value in its beauty that meant so much to me. 4. me: Thank you for your wonderful gift. mountain: It was always here for you to find and many more treasures await you. I got to the meaning of the last one and just started BAWLING! I tell my Dad all the time how I feel about him, however, I still fear that he doesn't know just how much he means to me. The reply tapped into another subconscious fear. The fear that I will never be enough or do enough for him and that one day I'll turn my back for a second and he will be gone! I need to call my Dad again tonight!
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Cindori
Member
07-25-2003
| Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 6:33 am
{{{Faery}}} I'm glad you're enjoying these.
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Cindori
Member
07-25-2003
| Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 8:00 am
Eight Tips for Kokology 1. Say the first things that pops into your head. The scenarios work best when you don't hesitate or agonize over your choice of words. There are no right or wrong answers, so just relax and say whatever springs to mind. 2. Play with other people if you can. Kokology can be read alone like any other book, but it's most enjoyable, exciting, and entertaining when you play with a partner or in a group. It's a chance to have a few laughs and get to know each other better. You may find that you have more in common than you ever suspected. On the other hand, you may find you're so incompatible that it's as though you're from different planets. There's only one way to find out for sure. 3. Don't try to predict the answers. It's natural to want to try to outsmart the quizzes or guess what their hidden meanings may be. But what are you going to learn from that? 4. Be honest with yourself. Kokology may be only a game in this form, but like any good game, it can teach you something about yourself if you let it. Don't be afraid to accept the truth when a minor fault or shortcoming of yours is exposed. 5. Be prepared. Some of the quizzes will ask you to write something down or draw a picture, so it's a good idea to have a pen or pencil and some paper handy before you start. 6. Don't read ahead. This goes along with the advice of not trying to guess the answers, but it's directed at the group that likes to read the last page of a mystery novel first. Why not open yourself up to a few surprises? 7. Watch people's reactions (including your own). The interpretations to the scenarios given in this book are only a starting point to learning more about yourself and others. Sometimes it's more instructive (and entertaining) to see how somehow reacts to an answer that's a bit off target than it is to read an interpretation that's right on the money. 8. Keep an open mind. In Kokology, as in life, it's important to keep things in perspective. There are no correct answers and there's more than one way of reading any situation. If you're playing with friends, take the opportunity to learn from and about them.
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Cindori
Member
07-25-2003
| Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 8:07 am
New Scenario The Forgotten Wallet It's a morning like any other; last-minute preparations before you run out the door. Hair? Check. Clothes? Check. Everything's ready to go . . . You get on your way at the usual time, but halfway to work you realize your wallet is not where you always keep it. A quick search confirms the worst - you left it at home! And there's no time for you to turn around and go back for it. You begin going through your pockets and bags to see how much spare cash you have to get you through the day. How much money do you find? What your answer means . . . The amount of cash you found represents the amount of money you forget about in your daily life; money you don't rely on being there. It also represents the amount of money you feel comfortable lending to others. Just how much did you say you found? About ten or twenty dollars? That seems like a reasonable figure. More than a hundred? You're probably popular with friends just before payday. Nothing at all? Maybe you're broke, or are you just cheap?
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 8:09 am
I thought the mountain was the most beautiful place I'd ever been to and that was my father!
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Faerygdds
Member
08-29-2000
| Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 8:41 am
I always keep my money outside my wallet. My wallet is reserved for my credit cards and checkbook. So I would have around $20 bucks plus change in my purse.
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Lkunkel
Member
10-29-2003
| Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 10:07 am
I have an emergency $20 with my bus pass...so, $20 plus bus tokens.
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Tess
Member
04-13-2001
| Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 12:12 pm
I had 20-30 dollars stashed in a hidden compartment in the car and anothe 20-30 in my camera case and some in my pockets. A little less than $100 total which fits any given day for me.
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Vee
Member
02-23-2004
| Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 12:20 pm
I'm broke or just plain cheap...$3.25.
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