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Way2prissy
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 4:21 pm
Great job Not1worry! Congrats--I bet you feel great! Llkoolaid, I think you can drink soy milk after the induction phase. You just need to count the carbs and sugars in your daily allowance. I've tasted the soy milk and it's not too bad. I prefer the taste of the cream and water though. The Atkins ice cream is very good also.
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Rslover
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 5:48 pm
Boberg, The suggestion of a glass or milk and nuts were definitely for after your induction phase, but I figured you knew that. Way2prissy - NO, Soy milk has alot of carbs. I think double that of milk.
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Llkoolaid
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 6:22 pm
Ok, well I guess I just have to live without it for a while. I got through today great, and still have carbs left over.
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Costacat
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 7:46 pm
Lactose-free milk is for those who are lactose-intolerant. If you've never tasted it, well, I highly recommend you taste it before you commit to buying a big old carton! (Personally, if I'm gonna have milk, I'll keep the 2% fat in my milk thankyewverrymuch!). FWIW, most lactose-free milks include corn syrup, so there's your sugar! Here's the deets on one brand: INGREDIENTS: Corn syrup solids, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, sodium caseinate, calcium sulfate, mono and diglycerides, dipotassium phosphate, sodium silico aluminate, lecithin, Vitamin A Palmitate, Vitamin D3, and artificial flavor. NUTRITION FACTS Serving Size: 8 fl. oz. (240ml) Servings Per Container: 21 -------------------------------------------------- Amount Per Serving Calories: 110 Calories from Fat 45 -------------------------------------------------- % Daily Value* Total Fat 5g 8% Saturated Fat 1g 5% Cholesterol 0mg 0% Sodium 20mg 1% Potassium 90mg 3% Total Carbohydrate 16g 5% Dietary Fiber 0g 0% Sugars 16g Protein 1g -------------------------------------------------- Vitamin A 10% Vitamin C 0% Calcium 20% Iron 0% Vitamin D 25%
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Boberg
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 9:10 pm
Rslover..your right, I knew nuts and milk were for later..my Atkins book stays with me and I read it daily and double check things to make sure I am following it strictly.. Zules thanks for watching out for me though I appreciate the support and encouragement of all of you. Thank you all for your responses, I knew I could come to TVCH and find people to share my experience with and who would share with me..this is a great place! Way2prissy..thank you for all the suggestions, I think I will try a few...I have cooked some of the recipes in the Atkins book..A big favorite was the "Chicken with Tomato Cream Sauce"..my husband raved about it..he is also doing Atkins with me which is a great help. I will check into the extra supplements..I do get concerned about some especially extra pottassium when your electrolytes are not being monitored frequently. Llkoolaid congradulations on a great start with Atkins and I hope we can keep in touch here to support each other. A big plus I have noticed so far is I am not constantly thinking about food nor do I feel lots of cravings for carbs or sweets...(except milk in the morning)..This is a new freedom for me..to be free of the constant desire for food/carbs..and if I get nothing else out of this way of eating it will have been worth it to feel this way for once in my life. I love the support and sharing of experiences here...thank you all!
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Tess
| Monday, January 12, 2004 - 10:47 pm
No corn syrup in the brand of lactose-free milk my daughter drinks but she doesn't like the national brand, just the regional one. It has milk + lactase which replaces the lactose (11g carb as opposed to 12g in our regular 1% milk). I use it in cooking and my husband and daughter both say it (when they drink it straight) that it tastes just like our regular 1% milk. The brand Lactaid, on the other hand, is far sweeter for some reason and no one in our family likes it.
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Llkoolaid
| Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 8:31 am
Boberg, it is great to have someone to start this thing with. My husband is also doing it but he sure doesn't have as far to go as me but it is easier. The funny thing that we have noticed is that although he has probably only 20 lbs to lose at the most he is having much more trouble than me. I am doing fine, he has cravings for bread and sweets which I don't. The thing is I always knew that I didn't eat as much as him, I was just a carb addict and he is what I call a grazer. He is always eating some small thing, where I usually had a large breakfast and huge supper. Call me nasty but I am loving the fact that I am having an easier time than him. Does anyone else just have to go to the bathroom a lot? I feel like I did in the 3rd tri-mester of of my pregnancies. I always drank a lot of water so I can't see how it is that.
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Rslover
| Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 4:01 pm
FYI, I found the recipes in this book much better than in the Atkins book. The Low-Carb Cookbook: The Complete Guide to the Healthy Low-Carbohydrate Lifestyle with over 250 Delicious Recipes by Fran McCullough
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Boberg
| Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 10:37 pm
Llkoolaid..my husband is having a harder time too..he keeps talking about donuts..LOL..I never cared for donuts..instant sugar headache for me..so it is not a problem for me..once I get through breakfast craving for milk I am fine and really have no further cravings at this time..which to me is a miracle. Men lose weight faster than women because they usually have more muscle mass than we do and muscles require more calories to function than fat does..so if our dear hubbies have a little hard time with this...hahahaaha..they will still lose their weight faster.LOL..j Today I had brisket and olives for breakfast, went and worked out for an hour. then for lunch I had a Subway roasted chicken salade and for dinner I had grilled hamburger meat with Atkin's Teriaki (spelling) sauce and collard greens and had a Advantage bar also today for an afternoon snack..feel totally satisfied. I have always had to frequent the "little girls room" often so I can't offer any help there except the book says in the first week you will be losing some excess water.j I did feel better today and seem to have a little more energy. Went out and got Atkins Basic 3 and Atkins Accel to add to my vit/mineral supplements. Rslover thanks for the suggestion on the cookbook.
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Llkoolaid
| Friday, January 16, 2004 - 2:33 pm
Day 8 and I am doing great, got over the craving for a glass of milk, just want a piece of fruit occasionally but I get past it. Really I am not thinking of food that much. More energy too and for some reason I haven't had a headache since I started, which is strange because I usually have sinus headaches a lot .
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Boberg
| Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 10:41 am
Llkoolaid..congradulations on day 8 and being over the cravings and NO Headaches.. My last couple of days have not been that great..probably my fault as I decided I could have my regular Hazelnut creamer in my coffee in the morning and drank about 3 oz of Coke each afternoon for the last 2 days and forgot to take my fiber caplet..so the scale has added 2.5 pounds back on...I can't seem to stay away from the scale each morning...it was going so good at first, I just loved seeing the scale go down each morning... So..today I have skipped the creamer (I only allow myself 2 cups coffee each am..can't get up with out it) and will not have any more Coke and see if I get back on track and those 2.5 pounds come back off. Also those last 2 days my cravings came back..so better get myself back on track. Day 10 for me.
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Rslover
| Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 12:38 pm
Boberg, Coke or diet coke? I don't know if you weigh yourself immediately upon rising, but if you wait until you have totally finished with the toliet you can see sometimes see a difference of 1-2 lbs.
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Deesandy
| Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 2:09 pm
The only reason I have not tried this diet is because I drink a lot of milk. Is milk forever forbidden on this diet?
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Llkoolaid
| Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 2:43 pm
I don't think so Deesandy , just at this stage, I guess it depends on how many carbs you are allow. At this stage it is only 20 so the veggies pretty much use them up, it does go up quite a bit the next stage so I am assuming you can have it then.
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Llkoolaid
| Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 2:46 pm
Still haven't cheated, this is amazing for me, I have been on a ton of diets and I always cheated a little bit which led to me going off the diet completely. I am amazed at what an easy time I am having. I have either one cup of coffee or 1 cup of tea a day not both and I use just enough creamer to lighten it a bit. I threw out my hazelnut stuff, it is just toooooooo tempting for me.
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Bobbie_552001
| Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 3:17 pm
In the induction phase of Atkins milk is not allowed. Only cream, sour cream, butter and eggs are. Whole milk can be used in moderation along with plain yogurt in the later phases. I tried this diet to just loose a fast 10 pounds. I lost weight on it, fast, but couldn't do it longer than a week. I have a friend who is very overweight and he is dong fantastic on it!! 35 pounds and still going strong.
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Boberg
| Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 7:32 pm
Rslover..don't shame me too much, it was reg. Coke...I know not allowed but I did it anyway and guess I am paying the price...won't do it again.. Llkoolaid..I have now thrown away my hazelnut also..too tempting like you said.. I was still feeling somewhat tired and felt I may be low on pottassium so I took 20 Meq (prescription dose) and I felt better within 2 hours..so I have done some research and found this diet is very low in pottassium...mostly fruits have this in them..but what is allowed on Atkins, that is high in pottassium (K+) is avacados..each whole avacado has just over 1200 mg of K+, so I will include avacado more often and have purchased K+ supplements..By law over the counter K+ can only be sold in very small dosages, usually 99mg (one banana has 500mg of K+ in it) so you can see that 99mg is a very small dose...,that is also the most you will find in your vitamin supplements also...So anyone doing Atkins may want to get additional K+ supplements or be sure they have their 1/2 avacado each day. Just wanted to let everyone know what I found out with a little research, it appears to me K+ supplements are needed (as TASHAKINZ had recommended to me earlier) especially for me as I take a very low dose BP med that has a diuretic in it. Thank you to everyone for your support.
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Konamouse
| Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 7:41 pm
Congratulations on those of you who are feeling successful. Our hospital is starting to keep track of adverse events related to a high protein - low carb diet. Last week we had a 15 yo admitted to the hospital for "dizziness, numbness & tingling in her fingers and toes". Had been following Atkins diet for 4 months (weight loss ~13 kg). Uric acid and BUN levels elevated. Normal brain CT and other neurological test all negative. Long discussion regarding vitamins, minerals and needs for growing teenaged girls (especially when they are interested in joining the swim team). Agreed to transition to a more reasonable & balanced meal plan akin more to South Beach with whole grains, fruit, vegetables, appropriate portions of protein foods, some fat with each meal, and 3 servings nonfat dairy per day (to help stimulate metabolism and prevent calcium from being depletion from the bones - which is what Atkins diet will do). If you are going to do Atkins, please do it in a more healthy manner - chose real foods, lower fat protein options more often than bacon; get your carbs from fresh, high fiber vegetables rather than from imitation "Atkins-low carb products". Take that vitamin supplement and 500 mg calcium citrate in the morning and evening. After the first two weeks, start adding back high fiber carbohydrates to find your "critical carb level" that still allows you to lose weight (not daily weight loss, but weekly average loss) - again chosing real foods, not the fake stuff all over the market place these days. And if you really want to see it work in the long run, you still have to count the calories at the end of the day. Good luck to all. 'squeek'
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Rslover
| Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 8:31 pm
Though Atkins always said to drink whole milk, you can actually have skim or low fat milk when ready. There is only a 1 carb difference between the two and you will be consuming less fat. Those "creamers" are filled with hydrogentated oils and corn syrup solids. Not good. Right, Konamouse?
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Costacat
| Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 9:34 am
There was an article about the Atkins diet in my local paper today. For more information, see Atkins promoters now telling dieters to limit their red meat, saturated fat. In a nutshell, Atkins is claiming they've always said to limit red meats and sat fats, but that their message has been misinterpreted. It goes on to say "The Atkins regimen remains a high-fat diet. But Atkins officials are increasing the amount that should be unsaturated – the kind that comes from most vegetable oils and fish – rather than saturated – the kind that comes from meat, cheese and butter, which has been linked to heart disease and other problems. The revision places more emphasis on fish and chicken." Ed: Seems to me they're responding to the negative press AND to the competition -- the South Beach Diet is, IMNSHO, a more healthy alternative.
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Rslover
| Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 12:11 pm
These are the crackers you can have on the diet.
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Deesandy
| Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 3:36 pm
Subject: 'Twas the month after New Years 'Twas the month after New Years, and all through the house Nothing would fit me, not even a blouse. The cookies I'd nibbled, the eggnog I'd taste And the holiday parties had gone to my waist. When I got on the scales there arose such a number! When I walked to the store (less a walk than a lumber). I'd remember the marvelous meals I'd prepared; The gravies and sauces and beef nicely rared, The wine and the rum balls, the bread and the cheese And the way I'd never said, "No thank you, please." As I dressed myself in my husband's old shirt And prepared once again to do battle with dirt--- I said to myself, as I only can "You can't spend a winter disguised as a man!" So--away with the last of the sour cream dip, Get rid of the fruit cake, every cracker and chip Every last bit of food that I like must be banished Till all the additional ounces have vanished. I won't have a cookie--not even a lick. I'll want only to chew on a long celery stick. I won't have hot biscuits, or corn bread, or pie, I'll munch on a carrot and quietly cry. I'm hungry, I'm lonesome, and life is a bore--- But isn't that what January is for? Unable to giggle, no longer a riot. Happy New Year to all and to all a good diet!
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Not1worry
| Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 3:39 pm
No offense, RS. Looks like crumbling plywood. But thanks for the info anyway, LOL! I have a good recipe for low carb coconut macaroons, but it calls for unsweetened coconut. Can't find it in my groceries stores and it's too expensive online. I bought a coconut and got a real workout scraping the meat from the shells. The macaroons were yummy, though! Almost all coconut, a little egg white and almond flour, etc. to hold them together. Now I just have to find an easier way to get the coconut out. I had coconut from one end of my kitchen to the other. Bummer, I'm up 2 lbs. after my "day off". I expected it, but it still is a bummer.
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Azriel
| Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 5:45 pm
Not1worry, look in the freezer section at your grocery store. You can usually find bags of unsweetened frozen coconut with the frozen fruit.
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Rslover
| Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 6:07 pm
Not1worry, It's bran for the serious dieters only. I didn't say they tasted great . But, if you miss the crunch they are fine with cheese, tuna, turkey, p.butter, etc. People say there is no fiber on the diet or they are constipated (hate to be blunt here) So, that's why I mentioned them. Two of these have 6 gms fiber.
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