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Cancunkid
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10-01-2003

Monday, February 09, 2004 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yep Russell Stovers has sure put themselves back on the candy map with the low carb chocolates! I just told my boyfriend NO CHOCOLATE!

Cancunkid
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10-01-2003

Monday, February 09, 2004 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just wondering what everyones shopping goals are. I dream of Victorias Secret and going in Chicos since their clothes size system is 0,1,2,3 with a 3 being a 14/16 I just think I am in love with that system!

Tashakinz
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11-13-2002

Monday, February 09, 2004 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
lol Cancun - I just want to be able to get back into the skinny clothes I bought after I lost all the weight and decided that that was a good time to quit smoking.

They've been collecting dust almost since I got them.

Not1worry
Member

07-30-2002

Monday, February 09, 2004 - 3:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My goal is to get out of the plus size clothes. My size 18s are now loose, and I bought some 14/16 tops this weekend. They were at the plus size store, but still. All my weight tends to settle on my belly, so I have that first trimester preggo look. Flattening out my gut has been great. I still have a ways to go, of course. I would also like to be able to go to the pool with my kids without having a mental breakdown over how I look in my suit.

I'd like to break my craving for junk food and sweets. I'm having a terrible time the last few days because I'm sick. I want comfort food, like rice pudding, pasta, toasted peanut butter and marshmallow fluff sandwiches, etc. I know I shouldn't use food to make me feel better, but the medicine just isn't working. So far I haven't eaten anything bad, but I'm weakening.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Monday, February 09, 2004 - 4:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hang in there Not1worry, you will soon be better and I don't think those food will help, they might even make you feel worse. I have a cold too and I know exactly what you mean but it will pass. Just think of the pool in the summer.

Cancunkid
Member

10-01-2003

Monday, February 09, 2004 - 4:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
gosh guys sorry to bring this up while everyone is illing. Not1 I had to laugh I don't think I have ever had a toasted pb and fluff sandwich but it sounds great! You can get low carb fluff and peter pan is pretty low carb. Just a thought. But this too shall pass. I just count myself lucky since I don't actually have kids and I am not currently a nanny no germs there. Also I work as a housesitter/pet sitter so no germs there I haven't had a cold in 3 years or anything else upper respitory. I used to have at least 3 or 4 horrible uri a year. You are reminding me why I would rather pay for my insurance and have only major medical than to go back into an office setting. I hope you two get to feeling better soon. I feel happy today it snowed this morning but it all melted and is almost 50 this afternoon just got back from walking 3 1/2 miles with dogs. I also ordered beachbody.com tapes a couple of nights ago....going to try that for my stomach. My legs and hips are smaller I can take my pants off without unbuttoning but really that just says my stomach is huge

Fabnsab
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 12:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My clothes goal is to go to the awesome vintage store we have and actually get to buy something other than hats and purses! I guess people weren't heavy back in the 50's and 60's!

Not1, don't give in!! You're doing great. Take more comfort in the fact that you'll be posting bikini pictures soon!

OK, about Russell Stover- I found these tonight and they have to be bad for us. They were just toooo good!!! I told myself I wasnt going to try any of these "lowcarb" foods but I was curious. The chocolate covered toffee said only .2 net carbs per piece! How is that possible?? I told hubby that I felt guilty afterwards anyways because they were so good! I hope this wont come back to bite me in the butt somehow. I remain a skeptic.

Fabnsab
Member

08-07-2000

Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 12:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh yeah, I also went to Trader Joes and got my bacon and hot dogs with no nitrates or dextrose. They were $4 a pack, I think- not too different than regular ones. I also found a low carb salsa verde for my chicken breasts.

I also found these crispy snacks. They take cheese and bake them into crispy wafers. They are awesome. It tastes like parm cheese all clumped up- which i love! They have 1 total carb per ounce. I took them to the movies tonight. These were costly- $3.29 for a 2 oz bag but hey, i am a crunchy person!


I hope you all dont think its rude of me to list prices. I just want to pass along the info as I find it.

Konamouse
Member

07-16-2001

Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Those of you who are eating lean meats and lots more veggies than before; congratulations for having removed non-nutritional sweets and fried foods from your diets (because of the breading) and those of you past induction hopefully have included some real fruit. This does equal a much healthier meal plan than you were eating before.

But the average Joe/Jane on the street who are just eating anything that says "low carbs", and all the new "Atkins Friendly" items because they are "low carb", are going to fall into the same trap that all the "fat" counters did in the 1980s.

In the 80's some people started eating healthier because they cut out all the non-nutritional high fat foods (fried foods, desserts) and chose lean meats, more veggies, fruits, etc....total calorie intake dropped and weight was lost. Then they started buying all these "fat-free" items. And calorie intake went back up.

A similar picture is going to emerge with the low carb trend. Eventually, calorie intake levels off and you will need to re-evaluate.

Keep going with the lean proteins and more veggies. If you are not going to include low/nonfat dairy or fruit, at least get a good multivitamin supplement and calcium.

As for the "Low Carb" chocolate (Russell Stover has been advertising their 'sugar-free' candies in all the diabetes magazines) - I told my hubby that one should expect a nice case of the "runs" (to the bathroom) if more than three candies are eaten at a time (remember, sugar alcohol = laxative). But they sure are making good money this year.

Somewhere there is a happy/healthy medium.

'squeek'

Rslover
Member

11-19-2002

Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Fabnsab,
I make my own "cheese crisps" by taking cheese, (cheddar, etc.) slicing it thinly (or deli sliced American) and sprinkling sesame, poppy, cumin, or fennel seeds on top. Then I microwave it until it starts to lightly brown and harden like a cracker. It won't stick if you use freezer wrap paper Try it.

Llkoolaid
Member

08-01-2001

Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 6:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The only new piece of clothing I bought since starting this diet is new bras and I went down a full size, not cup but from 44 to 42. 4 more sizes and I will be where I want to be. I am noticing things getting a little looser, which is so nice. I have never stuck to a diet more than a month before this and I am still having a pretty easy time. I am at the point now where if it isn't good for me, I really don't want it and am not looking for substitutes. My whole mind set has seemed to change about food. It used to be live to eat and now it is eat to live. I really don't know exactly when or why this change in my feelings about food came about. Maybe it is because the diet is so much easier and I am feeling better and actually thinking this is going to work. Maybe it is the feeling that I am in control now. I don't know what it is but I like it.

Grumpy
Member

02-08-2004

Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 10:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hello to everyone. I've read a few of your discussions about Atkins. I was hoping someone out there can help me. I have been doing Atkins since 9/4/03 and I lost 33lbs to date. Now I am stuck and have been for awhile, maybe 3 or 4 months. I am still keeping my carbs below 20 a day. I do have Atkins catsup on burgers,brauts,and such. I have a bowel of low carb cereal usually in am and tuna salad for lunch. Is it still considered inducton as long as I keep below 20 carbs? And why has my weight not budged? I've also been doing exercises too, and taking my puppies for walks. Does any one have any ideas?

Fabnsab
Member

08-07-2000

Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 12:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rslover, I will definately try that recipe. Thanks!

Llkoolaid, I am proud of you. That post sounds like the post of a diet success story! They say diets won't work until you're truly ready to lose it and by all accounts, you are. Keep it going!

I went to a place that had tons of food booths today and I wasn't tempted once. I just told hubby that it'll be there in a year when I allow myself more "normal" things. It was there last year at the same fest, it'll be there again. The only difference will be that I will be in the cutest little ooutfit then!!

OK, Grumpy, i feel your pain. Why don't you post a typical days worth of food and maybe we can check it out and see if theres anything that stands out. Are you in induction still? If so, try to stay away from any low carb products. I read that even the low carb things like bread and cereal triggers cravings and has stalling effects.

The only products I allow myself is the occasional low carb condiment. The carb solutions steak sauce is great, btw. I fear that alot of these do work the numbers in their favor and fool us, like my russel stovers i mentioned earlier.

Your 33lbs loss is fabulous!! Don't get discouraged. This is a slow process. We're all here to help eachother succeed.

Tashakinz
Member

11-13-2002

Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 6:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Grumpy: Worst case scenario you could try going on the hi-resistance diet that is discussed in the book (cream cheese & macadamias) and see if that shakes you loose. If that sounds too drastic, you could try cutting out all of the "products" and stick to just natural foods for a week (as Fab suggests). I found the carb bars slowed me down even though they were only 2-3 net carbs. Keep up the good work!

Sillycalimomma
Member

11-13-2003

Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have lost about 10lbs since I first started this. I think anyway. I had a really cheap scale when I started that gave me a different answer every time I go on it. Yesterday I went out and bought a brand new electric scale. I haven't really been all that good I guess either. I have had four days that I did not stay under the 20g carb limit. I didn't go extrememly over, but still. I cracked and had a soda or something like that. Starting today I am STARTING OVER. I will take this very seriously now......I promise.Tee hee.

I have a wedding to be in on June 12th! I would LOVE to lose at least 40lbs before then.....ugh. This is going to be so hard, but FAB-your words helped me. The "temptation" foods are not going anywhere. They will be there for me later. Heck. I should just look at the wedding as my treat...I can eat all of the yummy food I want then and cake and even have a few drinks! Ya.

When I became pregnant I was very young but determined to take the best care of myself as possible. I didn't have a drop of caffeine for 8 months and ate a very strict diet. I also did not take any drugs (even in labor) Even though I was a teen mother I took it more seriously then I can say any of my friends in their twenty's now do. I had a very healthy 8lb 5 oz kiddo. I did it for her. I know that losing weight is really an attempt to make myself feel better and have a healthier life, but my driving force is still my daughter. I want to be able to go out on the river with her and run around without looking like that darn Michelin tire man.....If I could do it before, I can be strong and do it again! I can I can.....

I look forward to posting pictures. I don't feel like I can post what I look like right now, but I know that I can handle doing a before/after later....if i get to the later......
Okay, off to drink a big ol glass of water to start my day!


Grumpy
Member

02-08-2004

Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I wish I could lose like Llkoolaide. Shes doins a great job. I am really trying not to get discouraged but I too am having problems with those darned digital scales. I weigh 2 lbs more than I did yesterday, but the same on the roll across scale. But I am sooooo adicted to the darned thing.I am just hoping to see a budge in the downward position.
Fabnsab: my typical days of meals are: Hot or cold cereal for breakfast; hot is usually 2-4 carbs + 3 packets of splenda. Cold is cocoa crisps from keto and 1 cup soy slender choc or vanilla milk, 4 carbs total. Once in a while if I'm in a rush I'll have a Breakfast bar and a shake for 5 carbs. Then for lunch I ALWAYS have tuna with mayo(0carbs) with romaine lettuce and either chopped or 2,3 slices of tomato. Really yummy:-). I really don't know how to count my lunch carbs so I usually say 4. I'll have a shake for a snack. Yummy. And dinner is the one that varies. It'll be brauts and 1 or 2 slices of cheese, and maybe a salad. I haven't had a salad for a while. Don't want to put the extra carbs from the dressing on it. Or a
couple hamburgers w/o bun or bread and catsup and mustard. Or 2 pork chops with catsup. Or oven fried chicken in butter. Thats usually it not really any side dishes. Kinda boring, but is ok. Then theres dessert:-). lately it's been an Atkins fudge icecream bar or peanut butterfudge ice ceam bar. But then there is either a carb o rite candy bar or delite candy bar. I ALWAYS have 1 a night. I am so adicted to sweets, I still feel I need it. But I did do good and am proud I have been able to limit to 1 a day/night. The getting up in the nite to let the puppies pee is a big down fall though. that is also where I put on all this weight. aauuugh. And to drink is Sugar free koolaide, yummy, Fruit 2 o, and diet rite all flavors yummy. I hate plain water and don't drink it. blecky. and I take a One A Day vitamin every morning. Well thats my story for meals. Any ideas I'd love to hear them. I don't know if I could handle going on the high resistance part. Where can u find sour cream w/o carbs or "sugars". And does the "sugars" listed under the Carbohydrate count on the labels HAVE to be a 0? Or can there be 3 or 4 but you just have to minus them? I've been sticking to the ones with 0 and that is really limiting my intake of condiments such as sour cream. Well I gotta go do my Richard Simmons. talk atcha in a few.

Cancunkid
Member

10-01-2003

Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey there Grumpy. On the sugars you can subtract sugar alcohol from the total carbs and you can subract carbs for any fiber grams listed. Sugar listed as just sugar is a carb. I would be careful of the catsup unless it is the low carb kind because it is full of sugar. Actually what you eat is similar to what I eat except I have all different kinds of meat salads for lunch and I don't dare eat carbs for breakfast because then I crave them all day. I just don't eat breakfast foods usually for breakfast. I will have leftover meat from dinner or an egg mcmuffin ordered without the muffin or sometimes a low carb smoothie from smoothie king but that has too many carbs really to start my day. Only other suggestion is watch the splenda it stalls some people. I actually mix koolaid mix (the plain no sugar or sweetner with water so it has some flavor or cut back any bottle of fruit2 o with 50% plain water. Everyone seems to have a different losing point with this diet and everyone seems to say the same thing scales don't move but the inches seem to. Also I make sugar free jello about every 3 days so I have something sweet to eat. It is wonderful with either cream cheese mixed in or whipping cream. It is a great little dessert. Check out the website dietlowcarb.com for a bunch of really great recipes for everything.

I finally hit the 25 lb mark. Took 32 days and the inches are coming off but I have no clue what I am going to do for pants. I have size 24s but then one pair of 22s and 2 20s then a pack of 18s. I need to get something to walk in because my pants yesterday rubbed a spot on my back where that nasty fat roll is that looks like a cig burn now. Had no clue it was happening at the time but my jeans are loose and move way more than they should against my skin. Not a bad thing but I need to just go to sleep until I get to those 18s.
Got a shipment of 10 lbs of royal red shrimp today. I know I am spending a mint on my meats but certainly saving on junk foods. MMMM these are the best shrimp just like lobsters.

Grumpy
Member

02-08-2004

Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 7:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hello Cancunkid. I never thought of eating carbs in the am would make me crave them all day. Thats a thought. I love the sugar free jello and koolaid. But they are made with aspartame. I've tried to dilute fruit2 o with water, it tasted real sour. I'll definately try koolaide plain in water and see if that helps. I'm afaid to see if I lost any more inches, the last time I checked I only lost 3 inches and it got very devistating that only 3 inches came off. But it's about time I should check since its been a few months. I wish I was the same way with "THE SCALE". What brand of cream cheese is a good one to get? The only ones I find have sugar carbs in them. I did notice that I was losing weight after I started buying food where the sugar carbs were 0. At first I ate Food where I was subtracting the sugar carbs but wasn't being a loser. So the sugar carbs scare me. You are doing so good. When I go walking I usually wear sweat pants or a belt tight enough that they won't do that nasty rubbing. I drive a truck for a living and my belly started rubbing on the steering wheel and I would get nasty rashes and burns. Of course it doesn't help that I sit real close to the wheel either. I use baby lotion and when I got those burns that lotion really made it feel better. Well I'm going to have to go to your place for dinner I LOVE sea food lobster, shrimp, lotsa snow crab. Yummy.

Rslover
Member

11-19-2002

Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 8:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Grumpy,
Congratulations on your weight loss! Don't fret if you are not losing. I would suggest you get the ketostix and check your urine (if you aren't doing so). This will be a good guide for you. You may be consuming more than you think. Also, try not to eat after dinner. I think that makes a big difference. Good luck.

Grumpy
Member

02-08-2004

Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 9:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rslover, I dont really get how the urine stix and all the glicerine or as I take it,medical, terms mean. So that all just goes way over my head. I'll look into it though.

Sillycalimomma
Member

11-13-2003

Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 11:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Man,I had the worst time today trying to stay on tract. Usually I do pretty good. I was starting out my day with an apple sausage and some cheese and ran out of that two days ago. So I opted from some bacon and cheese for breakfast. Then for lunch I had a tomato with tuna on it. It all went down hill from there-and I drank TONS of water today and yet didn't have to make a million bathroom trips as I was anticipating. Dinner was some chicken and steamed broccoli. But for some reason I just couldn't get "snacking" out of my brain. I didn't want to really crack and eat something really bad so I made some edemame....but still....1/2 a cup of that is 8g of carbs. Sheesh. I will never get sown 40lbs in 4 months. How in the heck do I find the willpower!!!

Fabnsab
Member

08-07-2000

Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 1:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow, i just spent 20 minutes writing a VERY long post then i lost my connection- AARGH!!

I will shorten it a bit because it is now late...

Cancunkid, fabulous job on the weightloss!! You're an inspiration!


Grumpy, I am no expert but those low carb knockoff items are stalling you, IMO. They say to stay away from them during induction. Your carbs should be 10 grams of veggies and the other 10 will add up quick from your mayo to your cheese. Get a carb counter and count every little trace of carbs. You'd be surprised how quick you get to 20. These products may have the same amount of carbs as something like celery but they're not doing the same thing for your body and this is a scientific process. Have a low carb chocolate treat once a week maybe but I think you'll see results if you go with straight up, natural foods. I have spent alot of time on atkins message boards so i have tried to learn from others mistakes. You are already a success with this diet, just some tweaking will really get the action started again! Good luck!!

Sillycalimomma, you know you have the willpower- you've done it before- you just have to believe you CAN do it, then you will. You're so right- that wedding and looking fabulous in the pictures will be your reward. Next time you want to cheat, close your eyes and picture everyone complimenting you on how great you look in the bridesmaids dress. I bet nothing will taste as good as that will feel. Congrats on the 10lbs!

I am not weighing myself. I joined a gym yesterday and they'll weigh and measure me tuesday. i dont thing i have lost much but i know its only a matter of time. i think the working out will propel my loss, hopefully!

I want to lose 50lbs by June. I want to be able to fit comfortably in the airplane seat on vacation. The seatbelt barely clicks and my tray doesnt always go down because of my belly, depending on airline. I would love to hold my food on MY tray and not my poor hubby's. These are the things I think about when I feel a bit hopeless.

Have a great day tomorrow, everyone! I'll post some great food ideas I found on the other boards tomorrow night.

Cancunkid
Member

10-01-2003

Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You guys are just the best!Thanks Fab don't feel like much of an inspiration today! I was right there with calimom only with me it was good all day then out to dinner. Asian mongolian bbq. I did fine had shrimp, beef, pork, chicken and steak with chinese cabbage, pea pods, onion, some green peppers and soy sauce and hot chili sauce. It was wonderful so I went up to the buffet and had the chicken on a stick, seafood medley, cheese stuffed mushrooms, green beans....ugh all not horrible but way too much or yeah a half cup of egg drop soup with green onions. Lucky for me I had not had more than 4 carbs before I went but the soy sauce is a killer for water weight.

Fab I am with you on the airlines. Last trip I took was Hawaii about 10 years ago. I am flying to see my brother in socal in September for my birthday and not only would I like to be comfortable but I really want to surprise him. He is the runner in the family.

Grumpy on the ketone strips they are really easy you just pee on them and compare the color after 40 seconds. No science involved. Although no one can tell me if it shows stored fat being burned or just fat being burned that could just be from what you have eaten. I do like them because when the scale isn't moving I can assure myself I am doing something right.

We are all doing great! We are going to do this. Which one of you said the tempting foods would still be there?? I thought about that and think I can get past anything except maybe sweet corn season here, my favorite summer meal corn on the cob and fresh tomatoes. Hopefully by then I will have lost enough to not want to risk it. Or maybe just a half an ear.

My seafood arrived yesterday! I am having nothing but seafood today. I even had a crab omlette for breakfast.

Grumpy
Member

02-08-2004

Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sillycali: Hang in there. The days come and go when all you'll do is eat and snack. You are doing great.

Fabnsab: Yes, I am going to have to knock out the low carb extras, and just do the naturals. But they were good while it lasted. I hear you on the airline seats too. My family and I flew out to California San Diego last August. I didn't even realize how big I had gotten until I saw those seats. And the pics we took may be a good before and after shot.



Not1worry
Member

07-30-2002

Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 3:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Cancun, where did you get your seafood from and was it outrageously expensive? I love seafood, but I can barely find decent shrimp here.

Grumpy, I'll ditto what Fab said about the low carb stuff. I am not convinced of the whole "net carbs" thing. They claim the sugar alcohols don't affect you at all, but I definitely think they do.

I think I'm addicted to pistachios!!!

I had two people this week do a double take when they saw me! Both exclaimed that I had lost weight. What a great feeling that is. I've lost 18 lbs. now and none of my pants really fit. I'm afraid to buy new ones in a smaller size, since I know when DH returns, I'll backslide.