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Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Friday, September 10, 2004 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I hadn't read anything about that, Kelli! Thanks for sharing. I can believe it.

Cinnamongirl, I think you're right. I often wondered if Jacob auditioned on a lark and was surprised he got as far as he did.

And now that I think about it, I think Jacob made the right decision. Look at how he was so quirky and theatrical at the beginning and when the judges got tired of it he toned it down. He wasn't the same after that. So, if winning this thing forces him to give up part of his individuality so others can shape his career, then it was better that he left.

Did you guys happen to notice how, when Jacob arrived home, it was his band that were the first to hug him and then his family? It was the cutest thing.

I hope Jacob finds success no matter how he chooses to go after it.

Kellirippa
Member

07-10-2002

Friday, September 10, 2004 - 12:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
sorry, the website is hedleyband.com



Tweety
Member

04-14-2003

Friday, September 10, 2004 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just finished watching last night's results show and have some thoughts. For anyone who still has it on tape, if you have the time, try watching again and see what you think.

I don't know whether it was because I knew the outcome, but it seemed as though the idols, Ben and the judges knew the outcome before the show started. For those who have it on tape, watch Kalan and Theresa; it's like they're overly affectionate toward Jacob especially during the song they sang together - knowing this would be his last time on stage.

Ben opened the show with the comment "shocking results". [I agree with comments above about something between Ben and Jacob.] But shocking - Theresa and Jacob were in a dead heat for second place (check how people placed their points in our game for a small sample example) so how could either of Jacob or Theresa going home be a "shocking result"?

When the results were read, Kalan and Theresa held hands; Jacob stood there apart with his hands crossed.

The judges were not surprised, nor did they give him a standing ovation during his final song.

Their comments make a lot of sense given the story Kellirippa reported above which I also read yesterday on the CTV CI forum. Apparently this whole controversy erupted earlier this week and people in that forum were concerned Jacob had dug his own grave before even starting to sing on Wednesday night.

And finally, Jacob took the results pretty calmly; Kalan and Theresa were more upset than he was.

So, to all the Jacob fans on this thread, I think Jacob is in a happier place tonight than he would be if he had advanced.

* * *


On a lighter note, I saw Jacob interviewed on Canada AM this morning and he was asked what was in Sass's mug he sipped during his final song before the results were announced and he said "Sass drinks alot of water, but I choked on it". My interpretation only is that it wasn't water or coffee in her mug!

And for those who care about these things and haven't heard, "a Canadian Idol record 3.7 million votes were cast". Wonder how many of us add into this tally? I'm only responsible for 119 votes for Theresa.

Kellirippa
Member

07-10-2002

Friday, September 10, 2004 - 8:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
that's interesting Tweety, I was voting for Jacob and was hitting redial the entire 2 hours and I was lucky if I got through 40 times....

I'd say that I would agree with you that something was up before the results were announced, as Theresa appeared to be crying before they announced anything. I think that it is standard for the judges and Ben to know the results before the show though.

Since you have it on tape Tweety, I was wondering if you would be able to quote Zack's remarks at the end. I'd be interested in hearing them again from this new perspective.

Tweety
Member

04-14-2003

Friday, September 10, 2004 - 10:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here are the comments from all judges last night.

J: I've been doing this for 23 years and no one excites me every single week the way you've been exciting me and we're really going to miss you. If anytime you want to make a record you know where to find me. Go Hedley!


F: You've brought a wonderful piece of entertainment value to this show. Straight up, if you have any problems with any one any where, you have 4 people who really care about what happens to you. Just phone me first.

S: You've shown us your heart and your soul and your dedication and your incredible grace under pressure. You may be leaving the show tonight but your public isn't going anywhere.

Z: I have lots to say and unfortunately I don't have the time to say it. So I'll start and say how much I love you first of all. Last night if I learned anything it's that what Canadian Idol is most about is what Vince Lombarti said. Winning isn't everything. It's the only thing. And winning here is REALLY important. It's something that really matters. And Neil Young said it's better to burn out than it is to rust out. And I thought you were going to go out in a blaze of glory and tonight you rocked. And you should rock like that for the rest of your life. Every time you get a chance. Every time.



Scorpiomoon
Member

06-06-2002

Saturday, September 11, 2004 - 2:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Man, Zack's comments were riddled with innuendo.

Since when has Zack become a champion of the Idol franchise? He has often made snide comments about how lame he thinks the show is. Why is he now speaking as though winning CI is greater than sliced bread? Hasn't he been following Ryan Malcom's career?

Remember when Jacob was singing to the judges? Zack look so displeased. I know the guy can be hardcore most of the time, but it surprised me to see him be so stone-faced.

Alegria
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07-05-2002

Saturday, September 11, 2004 - 4:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Scorpio I watched it again and Zack was at the point of tears. He was totally 'with' Jacob and was overwhelmed by his performance. Jacob really did go out in a blaze of glory and that is what Zack was in the middle of experiencing. It was a great show.

Skootz
Member

07-23-2003

Saturday, September 11, 2004 - 5:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am confused on Zacks remarks at the end...
"Winning isn't everything. It's the only thing. And winning here is REALLY important. It's something that really matters."

What is that suppose to mean...He lost, he came in third? the entire speech from Zack confused me.


Kellirippa
Member

07-10-2002

Saturday, September 11, 2004 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thank you for posting the comments Tweety.

Skootz.. I believe what Zacks remarks about winning isn't everything, it's the only thing is referring to Jacobs decision to opt out of the competition at this point, by asking his fans not to vote for him. There is also speculation that Jacob actually quit, and that would explain why Kalen and Theresa appeared to know he was leaving before it was announced, but that of course is only speculation. We do know for a fact that Jacob was posting a CI diary on his bands' website and in that diary he asked that his fans not vote. And we do know that CTV discovered the post, and that Zack is aware of the post, that CTV requested that the entire diary be removed because apparently any kind of communication with the public not approved by CTV is against the contest rules...which leads to yet another rumor that he was disqualified from the competition, which would also explain why everyone seemed to know what was about to happen.

All things considered though, I've seen some bits of interviews with Jacob following his departure, and none of his comments have indicated anything other than he was surprised to be gone and had a great experience and was thankful for the opportunity.

Skootz
Member

07-23-2003

Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 4:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks..that does explain things for me.

Kellirippa
Member

07-10-2002

Monday, September 13, 2004 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I found a recording of an interview Jacob gave on an Edmonton radio station the morning after he left, but I don't seem able to post the link. How do you do that?

Anyway, this is it, you can copy and paste it but it doesn't work to click on it:

http://www.96x.ca/cgi-bin/more?category=morningshow&id=100785

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Monday, September 13, 2004 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Zach's speech, to my eye and ear, I thought he was going to break down in tears.

Scorpiomoon
Member

06-06-2002

Monday, September 13, 2004 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kellirippa: Just for you, here is the direct link to the interview. Click on the link and the mp3 will start to download.

Scorpiomoon
Member

06-06-2002

Monday, September 13, 2004 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just finished listening to the interview. It was awesome!

I'm on WinMX downloading some music. I happened to check to see, by chance anyone had any CI or Jacob-related mp3s they were sharing. I got 150 results. Can you believe that?

I'm listening to an excellent capture of "Sundown" as I type this.

Man, they better put this song on the compilation CD.

Kellirippa
Member

07-10-2002

Monday, September 13, 2004 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Scorpio!! Is WinMX a free downloading MP3 site?

Jasper... When I heard Zacks remarks and when I saw him sitting at the judges table when Jacob was singing I want you to want me, and before I knew any of these behind the scenes things were going on, I thought he seemed not emotional, but angry..

Anyway, I've been really happy about the way things have turned out this year on the CI show. I pegged Kalan to win right from the top 32 and I had always hoped for a top 3 of Kalen, Theresa and Jacob.. so all things considered, Canada got it right.

I wish I were a little more behind Kalen though, I think the shy thing just got old for me, not his fault, but I think he could have won more hearts if he had ever just really gave a great smile, or done something a little silly. Jacob won my heart this time around, but Kalen will make a great Canadian Idol..

Jasper
Member

09-14-2000

Monday, September 13, 2004 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kelli, Zach was stony when Jacob was singing to the judges, what I am referring to was when Jacob had been eliminated and Zach gave his little speech, he seemed barely controlled, a little angry but with an underlying something going on, he seemed shaky.

ITA with your post for final three etal and am going to check out Scorpio's links as I really fell for Jacob as well.

Scorpiomoon
Member

06-06-2002

Monday, September 13, 2004 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kellirippa (and anyone else):

Here's a link to the mp3 version of Sundown.

Right click on the link and click on "Save Target As..." to save it to your computer. It's only 2.5mb.

Kellirippa
Member

07-10-2002

Monday, September 13, 2004 - 8:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
THANKS SCORPIO!!!!!

Jan
Member

08-01-2000

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 6:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
a really nice story in the Toronto Star today about the show and the two finalists. Theresa says :

"I've been expecting the same thing from the very beginning, to be honest," she says. "The moment I met Kalan and heard him sing I really believed he was going to win this whole thing."

Apparently the show is a big hit with some stars as well:

"Canadian celebrities like actor Don McKellar, musician Ashley McIsaac, and singers Fefe Dobson and Nelly Furtado are loyal watchers. Goodness, American comedian Ray Romano even has CTV send tapes to his family"

you can read the whole article HERE


Jasper
Member

09-14-2000

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
POP QUIZ
Tonight they each get to sing three solo songs, who sings first?

I say Theresa

Wink
Member

10-06-2000

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 8:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kalan

Jimmer
Member

08-30-2000

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 9:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Theresa sings first.

Crossfire
Member

08-07-2001

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have a feeling that we will get Kalan first tonight, Theresa first tomorrow.

Tweety
Member

04-14-2003

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 10:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kalan

Llkoolaid
Member

08-01-2001

Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 10:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Theresa