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Cricket
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08-05-2002

Monday, July 20, 2009 - 10:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Holy cow! Thanks you guys. So by the others having a strike against noms, they were discussing noms. Marcus and Siavash were safe. They should have not protested.

We discussed how fair it was the way it was done, but the HG's would have no way of knowing she pulled balls out of a box. Darn, I wish the guys would have kept their mouths shut. I'd like to see exactly those two..Lisa and Rodrigo..on the block.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, July 20, 2009 - 11:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I was looking through the posts of that guy who said he was from production. Thought this might be of interest... (the guy is beast1982 at DS, by the way)

The way it works is there are cameras on them at all times, as we know. But only two events are being recorded and so that means two conversations or just one when someone is in the diary room, as that always has to be recorded.

And so, as there are only two recordings happening at one time, if one is an argument and the other is someone bitching, then it leaves no room for people not involved in those events to be recorded.

HOWEVER at least every two hours all of the housemates are recorded, as are their actions.

As part of the editorial decision, they have to have at least 12 "stories" in a show. If in one night we have a lot of things happening eg sree drinks someones tea behind their backs (even if no response is made in that episode, knowing the history of that hm, it may come out later on), or someone sat alone (to show that they have been segregated by the house) or someone having a cheeky snog, or a task etc. Sometimes there is no room in a show to feature irrelevant footage when it forsakes a story. By the same token, sometimes the highlight shows are poor and a bit random. That is because the producers have struggled to find 12 stories (due to the housemates being dull) and so have to fill with boring conversations or boring events.

The producers work for, and I kid you not, 24 hours without a proper break putting one hourly night show together. It is difficult and has to pass through many people, including channel 4 before it is approved for broadcast. Channel 4 take a lot out sometimes for being not entertaining, offensive or potentially controversial. The final decision of the show lies with them, not the producers


He also said events in the house are always shown in chronological order, and events in any section happen within two hours of the time the voiceover says.

Flagg
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06-01-2005

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 12:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flagg a private message Print Post    
Interesting post. If I remember correctly that was one of the problems in BBUS season 1 with the daily shows. It was too hard and too much work for them to complete the daily shows on time and make them interesting enough.

I'm looking forward to seeing the actual reason for all the extra nominations. If it is just for talking about noms, why was it a direct nomination this time instead of giving them a task to get out of it like they did earlier for Siavash and Sophie?

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 4:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    
BB news

Monday evenings can often be quite quiet in the Big brother House everyone usually feels quite burnt out after the trauma of nominating. But this week, the House was turned upside down with the revelation that every housemate except Lisa and Rodrigo will face the chop this week.

It was no surprise that Bea, Kenneth, Tom, David and Hira were up for eviction after they failed their secret mission to influence the voting against Noirin and Halfwit.

As it turned out, Charlie and Lisa received the most nominations, but because the new housemates failed their secret mission and the remainder of the housemates apart from Lisa and Rodrigo all 'blatantly broke the rules regarding discussion of nominations', then Big Brother imposed a most severe punishment.

Phew, are you managing to follow this?

Inevitably there was fallout. First of all David fell out with Tom because he felt that Tom had made zero effort in the Task. Then David fell out with Bea over her part in the Task.

The original housemates weren't fazed by the evening's events at all especially Marcus and Siavash who celebrated by spraying hair removal cream on their bums.

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 5:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    
Video showing BB announcing this weeks noms.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/video/2638a070dd57b850e50e4bf039ba9ed6/play.c4

Sarasmile
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02-09-2007

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 5:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sarasmile a private message Print Post    
I am wondering why they decided to invalidate the HM's nominations AND put the talkers to the public vote as punishment. In the past they have done one or the other. I know the rule breaking has been rampant and blatant lately, but if they would have just put them up and not invalidated their noms, then Lisa would be up too. I know BB gets to do whatever he wants, but I wanted Lisa nominated!!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 9:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I think they had committed to having either the newbies or the nominated originals up, and that's why they invalidated the Charlie and Lisa noms, because the newbies failed their task.

So I wonder what those with penalty noms did, if they did actually nominate. I'm interested to see! Hopefully we'll be able to find out from what they show on BBLB.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
dcb has BBLB on, if anyone has the free time to watch it!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
They openly discussed who they were going to nominate, except for Charlie, who discussed who he had nominated!

It's clear certain people, particularly Siavash and Marcus, don't care at all about being up for eviction, so they should do other things to punish them as well. How are they going to control them in the next few weeks if they're like this mid way? I think they need to severely limit their access to tokens or hot water, and give them boring food regardless of the budget.

Whoa and Kenny got an official warning for saying that he wouldn't have the same problem with Bea on the outside, as he'd get people to sort it out for him!!!

Karly seems to be trying to disown him somewhat!

Sarasmile
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02-09-2007

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 11:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sarasmile a private message Print Post    
I think before the end of the week we'll see Kenny booted out the door and one eviction on Friday - either way I think Kenny is a goner.

Kitt - is there an article about Karly trying to disown Kenny somewhere?

Flagg
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06-01-2005

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flagg a private message Print Post    
Why do you think Kenny will get booted prior to eviction? Do you think he'll lose it and hit somebody or something? While I don't like him at all I don't think he's quite that stupid. But he seems tio be pretty much a lock for eviction unless somebody else does something really drastic before Friday.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 12:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Sara, Karly was on BBLB and she said she didn't like Kenneth's flirting with Sophie or his comments about Bea. She said something like he makes his own decisions and he'll have to explain his own reasons. That's what I meant by disown him. I was impressed with her actually, I thought she'd just stick up for him.

I don't think he'll get booted before eviction, I think he didn't realise how his comment about Bea would be taken, and he'll be much more careful with his words now. He'll still think the same - just filter it more.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Kenny doesn't like people standing up to him does he?!! Charlie's being pretty direct too. Love Bea!

It seems they were all confused about exactly how to break the rules/which rules to break, so they did their own thing. Nominations (which in the end meant nothing) were:

Charlie: Freddie (blue eyes, dings the spoon when he stirs the tea), Siavash (sings and dances). He gets a warning about keeping his conversations in the diary room confidential, then goes out and says he gave ridiculous reasons.

Dogface: Marcus only, breaking a BB rule
Halfwit: Charlie, Lisa (no reasons shown)
Lisa: Halfwit, Noirin (not shown)
Marcus: Lisa (didn't join in to the mutiny), Charlie (no reason shown)
Noirin: Lisa, Rodrigo (not shown)
Rodrigo: Marcus, Noirin (not shown)
Siavash: Charlie, Lisa (not shown)

Lisa 4 noms
Charlie 3 noms
Halfwit, Marcus, Noirin 2 (hence the newbies failed their task)
Rodrigo, Siavash 1
Dogface 0

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
If anyone likes gossipy stuff...

It seems that there was a forum poster on DS and several other websites who was promoting Karly and trying to set up her ex-boyfriend, Gary. Karly went out with Gary, a football player, for three years, they broke up for seven months, then she went on vacation to Australia when he was there on tour, and they reunited not long before she went into the BB house. It sounds like during the time in Scotland after the break up with Gary, she started going out with Kenneth, and when she came back briefly after reuniting with Gary in Australia (before going on the show) she went back to Kenneth too. When Davina did her intro as she entered her house she spoke about her dating a football player, and that was this other guy, Gary.

So Kenneth, or Kenneth's "employee," posting as karleyashworth, seems to have started a campaign to embarrass and humiliate the ex-boyfriend in the press. Gary didn't seem to know he was an "ex" not a current boyfriend when the show started, and was interviewed by several papers. Then when Karly started talking about Gary as her ex, and talking about how lovely Kenneth was, Gary was humiliated.

What a bizarre thing to do, when the ex might not have even known about Kenneth, and it was Karly who was really doing the cheating, not the ex.

It's long and involved but this is a summary:
http://www.wikio.co.uk/article/113427443
It all seems truly the behaviour of someone a little unhinged...

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 2:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
What on earth could be a motive for doing that? It does sound like someone who is completely out of touch with reality and has to have everything he wants. If I were Karly, or her parent, I'd be very careful and hire a bodyguard or two. I can't believe that Karly would try to purposely hurt someone she'd been with for three years. I wonder if she even knows. If she was OK with this, she is even worse than I thought she was.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I wondered if she just didn't want to tell the other guy before she went in the house, but then it's pretty cruel to tell him on tv, by referring to him as her ex. Maybe she did tell him before she went in but he didn't believe she meant it? I doubt (or don't want to believe!) she knew that Kenneth was arranging this campaign against him.

If she doesn't stand by Ken when he gets out, and I would almost hope she doesn't, I'd be worried about her if she didn't have some kind of protection.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 3:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
We'll probably find out on Friday when he is booed out of the house. I can't imagine, if there is only one to go, that he wouldn't be the one. Unless he really is as rich as he claims and has phone banks of employees punching in the other numbers.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
It all seems truly the behaviour of someone a little unhinged...

Umm, first, Kitt..asking if we liked gossip is a little redundant, lol (at least speaking for me.)

Second, it truly does seem there is some unhinged behavior going on. From everything I've read about Kenneth, Karly should have stayed with the football player, Gary. Wow!

What did Kenneth say to Bea?

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
During the time that they were trying to get her to participate in getting Freddie and Niorin nominated, they had a little argument and Kenneth told Bea to shut the f*** up. She told him she wouldn't be spoken to like that and ignored him. he went out and complained to everyone that she was trying to intimidate him. Charlie went out and told Lisa and Bea that Kenneth said Bea was trying to intimidate him. When Ken came out she asked him in a very quiet voice if he found her intimidating. He went ballistic. I don't remember what he said, but she was cool as a cucumber. She never raised her voice and kept repeating what he said, or repeating that she just asked a question. She finally told him, still in a very calm voice, that he shouldn't get so worked up because he'd give himself a nosebleed. I don't know if I got it all right because I was cheering and laughing at the same time. I plan to watch it over later when it's posted because it was that good.

Sarasmile
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02-09-2007

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sarasmile a private message Print Post    
Flagg - I actually don't think Kenny would lose it and hit someone, I just see him as someone who very quickly forgets that the cameras are running and is so used to talking big that he might slip and make more tough guy talk. I think he wouldn't be given another chance and get booted out the door :-) - maybe just more wishful thinking!
Thanks Kitt - I hadn't seen BBLB yet and thought maybe there was an article that said Karly was moving on from Kenny.

Flagg
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06-01-2005

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 5:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flagg a private message Print Post    
Ahh I see what you meant. I hadn't yet seen his threats when I made that post. He really does seem to be a loose cannon and unable or unwilling to keep his aggression under control. It does look like he might have been scared into regulating his threats after BB called him in and he had to scramble to make excuses. It is a bit disappointing that Alex was booted for basically the same thing last year and yet Kenneth is still there.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 5:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I think Alex actually meant it though, whereas Ken is all ego. I think on a personal level he's quite scary, i.e. I'd worry about stalking and malicious things, but on the larger level I'm not convinced he's got the pull he thinks he has.

I was amused by his phrasing when he was called into the DR, he apologised and said something like "again and finally <blah blah blah>" and you could almost hear Big Brother thinking "it's finally when I say it's finally, sonny Jim..."

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - 9:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Mama. Wow! Sounds like Bea held her own against him and he seems to have a very short fuse. The others should thank him because hopefully he will be booted and they will be safe.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
One of Davina's tweets this morning says tonight's show has a "shocker ending." She says it's not Rodrigo and Charlie (who were pretending to kiss). There was talk yesterday of Noirin and Siavash flirting, so it might be that.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Perhaps Niorin is smarter than she acts. She might realize there is a chance Marcus could go and might have picked up on signals (or even hints) that the public likes Siavash. Niorin might be playing the biggest game in the house.