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Kitt
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09-06-2000
| Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 9:23 am
I do think Sree is pretty unique! I've worked with quite a few Indian men, both here and in the UK, and although some have had women issues I haven't noticed any reluctance to take constructive criticism from their peers. Maybe Sree was told he didn't have any peers! That website also said he started at the university in 2005, so he's had 3+ years with British and mixed-culture students in which to acclimatise, so if he's saying it's just a cultural thing he should have worked through that long ago. Ah well, enough of my Sree rant! Harlequin, I don't think Kris will be nominated by enough of the others to be up for eviction - unless BB do something odd with the nominations - that's the problem we're going to have with getting him out. The group I like are outnumbered, particularly as they don't vote as a group, like the Kris-Sophie-Karly-Charlie-Lisa block do. BB need to do something to shake it up!
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 10:15 am
How old is Sree? I've never seen anyone with such a need to run and get backup, as he ALWAYS feels he's been wronged. He can't handle his own battles. More than one person in the house has tried to tell him he can dish it out, but can't take it. He's way too immature to be in the house. Does the public ever nominate anyone and the HG's vote?
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 10:46 am
He's 25! Doesn't seem it at all. I guess if BB were looking for unusual characters they found one! I can't remember any instance when the public nominated and the HGs voted, but wouldn't that be fun! Imagine how they'd feel being told the least popular!! I guess it would change the game too much though, they'd have too much of an idea of how they were perceived and might change their behaviour.
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Sarasmile
Member
02-09-2007
| Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 11:43 am
In the very beginning of series 3, didn't the public vote the first week on 2 people to be up for eviction and the HMs had to decide between them? One was Jade, and of course she stayed, because she was the "baby" of the house. I don't remember who left - anyone else remember?
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 1:23 pm
I didn't see enough of the earlier series to remember that. It must have felt bad, but maybe better right at the beginning, when you can say to yourself that the viewers haven't seen enough of you to get a true impression. Watching today's one... the task they have Siavsah doing looks like torture! Poor guy. And Sree is not good at repeating orders!
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 4:28 pm
Half wit is the most annoying person in the world. As for Kris not asking anyone else to wash up Kitt, everyone was in the party except for Karly, Kris, Sree and him I believe. Karly helped him cook and Sree was helping wash up. There was nobody else to ask. Half-wit is the biggest baby and fraud I have ever seen on a reality show. There is nothing real about him.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 5:25 pm
I quite like him, as you probably gathered . Although I definitely agree he can be annoying!
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Wednesday, July 01, 2009 - 5:58 pm
He is annoying, but not as annoying as Lisa, Kris, Charlie or the blondes. He needs to realize that there is no point in trying to explain anything to them because they are really not capable of rational thought. They haven't even caught on that the public likes Freddie. After three weeks you'd think they'd get it.
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Sarasmile
Member
02-09-2007
| Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 7:02 am
I think Freddie lacks some common social skills and that is making it more difficult for him to integrate with the group. Things that are just common every day comments or chit chat to him, are taken as snobbish and "high and mighty" to most of this group. He hasn't figured this out yet and therefore has not been able to modify the way he presents things... then he gets frustrated that no one will discuss/debate it with him! That's what I find most annoying about him - he hasn't been able to get in the groove of the majority. That's one skill that I think a good policitian would need.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 9:29 am
He also seems completely unaware that a politician shouldn't be talking about drugs and sex like he does. Admitting to forty lovers is bad enough in the political sense, but given that many of them are at the same time... he doesn't see that stops him being an attractive MP for many voters. I'm not sure how much he should modify his chat for others. He isn't snobbish, although I agree he's taken as that. There's a lot of that in the UK, where people who can articulate how they feel are accused of being arrogant or stuck up. I blame Big Brother (seriously I do!). That year when Jade was on was the beginning of several years of it being considered cool to appear stupid or uneducated. It's only just beginning to taper off now.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 10:10 am
On BBLB George is saying there was a technical problem during the Three Tenors song, and they weren't played the beginning of the music - so as they made a good effort in practicing they've passed that bit of the test! Just that bit though - they still have to have had less than three(?) other fails.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 3:09 pm
I'm just catching the last part of today's show and the HG's have won the food comp. What is going on between Hafwit & Lisa? He's soo happy he called her out on the 'schemer' she is, but the whole house is upset with him. I don't understand how he is seeing this as a win for him. He got into it with Karly also. He then pulled a Sree and left the group to go complain to Siabash. The HG's are saying Halfwit has been annoying over the past 2 days. How long will the public adore him if the other HG's continuously can't get along with him? Is that why they are keeping him in the house possibly?
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 3:13 pm
The public has seen that he has been right all along. Lisa has been putting him down behind his back at every opportunity. She has been kissing up to her group so that they will trust her then when she tells them how awful Freddie is, that he has a gameplan, that he hates them all because he thinks he is better than they are, they believe her. He knows and the public knows that she is in charge and has been calling the shots.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 6:27 pm
They are so rude and childish! They accuse him of something then don't let him speak, yet somehow he's still the bad guy! If Lisa was more likeable or more subtle in what she does Freddie might look bad, but she's so clearly just attacking because of her own problems or prejudices, and I think at this point I'd vote for Freddie to stay even if I didn't like him. I cannot wait for tomorrow when Sree goes. I just want to see what Lisa and Kris say and do. I hope they announce at the end of the first hour so we can see some of the fall out before the interview.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 8:15 pm
It's too bad they don't let them listen at the door the way they used to. I loved the way people used to shout get this one or that one out and the housemates tried to figure out what name they were saying. It might have changed the game, but it would be worth it to see how Lisa tries to spin it. I'm afraid that next week will be Marcus against Freddie. What little support he might have had has dwindled. OR, maybe they will get some new folks in who know what's going on and don't nominate him??????
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, July 03, 2009 - 10:45 am
I have been missing so many shows, that I haven't seen Lisa bashing him behind his back. The other HG's say he's annoying regardless of what Lisa says. I felt from what I saw yesterday that Karly wouldn't listen to him because she was just tired of listening to him. They do the same thing to Sree when he acts up. I see Freddie as somewhat fake as another poster here does. I don't like or dislike him at this point; just think he's a bit boring with the way he starts singing all at once or is always pontificating. He won't be able to be friends with them until he gets more down to earth. His constantly going, "Ummm" just really bugs me. I don't know why it does. Freddie shouldn't let it get him down that he is nommed. I'm surprised that Siabash or someone he does talk to hasn't told him that they want out the person he is up against. As someone here said, by now the HG's should realize the public isn't going to vote out Freddie and if that's what they really want, they're going to have to put him up against someone very likable. They haven't done that so far. I don't like or dislike Lisa either. She may well be leading a group and if so, it's good she got called out. I'm not sure whom I'm rooting for these days. BB seems to be rooting for Freddie from the questions they asked Karly, Lisa and Freddie..or..maybe they are just a lot more human and classy than our U.S. BB and don't like seeing people get picked on.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, July 03, 2009 - 11:33 am
Good point about them starting to tell Sree to stop talking now, but that did take weeks, they've been rude to Freddie since almost week one. I think they basically couldn't be bothered to get to know him because it would take effort, as he's different, and decided he was the cause of all the aggravation they themselves were creating in order to justify to themselves that they could nominate him. It's the way it works many years, they pick on someone to create tension so that they feel better about nominating them. I'm watching this morning's bblb and they said Marcus got a formal warning (and it's two strikes and you're out this year) after a (verbal) fight with Sree where he basically told him they'd sort out their problems outside the house after the show. He'd better be careful from now on!
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Friday, July 03, 2009 - 12:01 pm
They might be afraid of another spitgate. Marcus really does need to mind his Ps & Qs. He might be a puddy* cat, but he does look intimidating. *TVCH didn't like the word I used. LOL From the beginning, the "pretty people" separated themselves from the "different ones." Right from the start, whatever Freddie did was wrong. He made a salad for the house using up most of the greens. He thought he was being nice by preparing a meal for them and they didn't happen to like salads. He made stir fry and Charlie complained that the vegetables weren't properly cooked. They are supposed to be crisp, but Charlie likes his veggies soft. They are a meat and potatoes group and Freddie made things his friends would like. They acted as if he was trying to poison them.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, July 03, 2009 - 12:40 pm
Very interesting posts, Kitt and Mama. If I had to nom someone in that house, it would be Charlie. He's all over the place and never gets called out for it. At least that's what I'm seeing. He's really goofy and yet gets away with it. Who is the 'in' group right now? Is it Marcus, Noirin, Kris, Sophie and Lisa?? I'm glad Marcus got called on what he said to Sree about after the show. He said some pretty nasty things to him in that one fight and he did talk about the girls body parts like Sree said, but he said the girls didn't mind. That's not true.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, July 03, 2009 - 1:12 pm
Marcus is another hit and miss kind of guy for me. I don't like the way he talks about women. I don't like his ego. I don't like how he thinks it's ok to berate Sree, even when I kind of agree with what he says. I do like the way he always is supportive in the tasks. I do like that most of the time, when he's not being egotistical, he speaks the truth more than anyone else in there. I think BB have made a lot of good choices for characters this year. A group of them are very multi-dimensional, with both good and bad characteristics.... Freddie, Marcus, Rodrigo. Is anyone watching live? What did you think of what Marcus said to Sree? Sree did his "what's 13 13s? 169" thing, and Marcus repeated back to him, in Sree's accent "what's 13 13s?" Now Sree's saying he's mocking his language. I think he was doing what they do to Freddie when they copy his accent. I don't think Sree should get any special compensation just because his accent is from a different country.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, July 03, 2009 - 1:29 pm
I think Marcus was spot on with the second half of his speech, about BB needing to take responsibility for making sensible decisions not pc ones. And I'm really glad they showed that, they could have easily edited it out. (Of course his "I'm not aggressive ever" bit wasn't quite as inspired!) Did you spot Lisa jump right on Freddie again? Noirin pointed out Sree was still ranting at Marcus when Marcus had left and no response, but when Freddie says something similar suddenly he's attacked by Lisa with Kris as backup. I was wondering if people would be feeling sorry for Sree, then in comes Lisa and reminds up what Freddie has had to put up with all this time. Save Freddie!
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, July 03, 2009 - 1:31 pm
I missed Marcus mocking, but saw the rest of the fight, Kitt. The DR told Marcus it was mocking. I do think (as does Marcus and I DO NOT want to defend this guy) that it's because Sree is from India. Wasn't it a gal from India that was booted a few years ago for a derogatory remark against another culture? I finally saw an instance where Lisa does think she is running the show. Sree wouldn't shut up after Marcus was called to the DR and finally Noirin told him to 'quit being the victim.' He told Noirin to 'shut up; it's not your business.' Freddie rightly stated that Sree made it all their businesses when he kept yelling and Marcus wasn't even there. Lisa interrupts Freddie and tells him to 'stay out of it' because that's what she was doing, but not a minute later tells Sree to 'let it go.' Very hypocritical and controlling. They need to get her out of the house ASAP. Now she likes Noirin too? Sheesh, who hasn't hit on Noirin in that house? Kitt stated: I think BB have made a lot of good choices for characters this year. A group of them are very multi-dimensional, with both good and bad characteristics.... Freddie, Marcus, Rodrigo. I like Rodrigo so far. Haven't seen a lot of him, but loved it when he stood up to Charlie's teasing the other day.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, July 03, 2009 - 1:39 pm
Precisely, Cricket! I would love it if she were out next. Oops, didn't mean to put Rodrigo on that list, I meant to put Siavash (for his language). I love me some Roddy .
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, July 03, 2009 - 1:40 pm
Geez, I really thought Marcus was going to shut up and let BB give him his punishment and just take it. Instead, after a warning, he tells BB off again. He's begging to be booted. He just doesn't get it. I sure wish Dick had been on BB UK or AU instead of the U.S. Marcus is making it worse on himself because of his hatred for Sree. He won't even listen that it was the threat outside the house that got him in trouble. Marcus seems like a very unhappy and angry man. Who will he go after when/if Sree leaves. ETA: Ahh, Kitt..yes, I get Siabash being on your list.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, July 03, 2009 - 1:54 pm
Freddie pointed it out to him (that what he said sounded like someone in a pub saying "take it outside") and I hope that it'll seep in eventually. He's very lucky Sree is out tonight (yes, I'm still convinced!) because I don't think he could have let it rest for long. I don't know what will happen next, whether Marcus needs someone to fight with or whether it's just this clash over Noirin. I have a feeling things are going to get difficult for Freddie, because Lisa & Co are going to be angry about Sree going and are going to lash out. They wouldn't dare lash out at Marcus... but they could well nominate him next week and it might start up then. Looks like they're not going to announce the result until 10.35.
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