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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 1:06 pm
Today Bea feels victimised!
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 1:14 pm
I got an email back from Ch4/Big Brother. As was seen in last night's highlight's show, Big Brother spoke to Freddie twice in the Diary Room about the disagreements between himself and Bea. In addition to Big Brother Siavash and Marcus also offered support and advice to Freddie and by the end of the evening he was in much better spirits. It is inevitable that disagreements will happen in the house but Housemates are encouraged to work these out amongst themselves. Big Brother monitors the events in the House at all times and if necessary will take action and intervene. Big Brother, together with a dedicated Welfare Team, will continue to monitor the situation closely. All housemates know that they are able to come and talk to Big Brother at any time. Sounds like they were making sure Freddie was ok, but don't seem to get the point that not making it clear that Bea was in the wrong sends out a bad message to viewers, particularly those subject to a similar thing at school. I like that they answered pretty promptly though, and even though I'm sure it was their stock "people emailing about Bea and Freddie" email, at least the fact that they had one means that they are aware there was an issue.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 2:07 pm
Thanks for that Kitt. It seems that they consider it two people giving and taking in an argument. It seemed to me to be one person attacking another. I loved today's show where Bea was so phony in her "happy mood" and went right out to the bus stop to tell her two new best friends how positive and upbeat she was just before she started complaining about Marcus and Siavash putting all the blame on her. She thinks she has been victimized by them. This woman lives on another planet.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 2:44 pm
I didn't see give and take at all, either. I think Freddie's pretty resilient, and will be ok, but that doesn't mean what Bea did was right, or should have gone without comment by BB. It definitely crossed a line for me. I think even though Lisa's team are happy to be behind Bea now, most of them know she was out of order. She'll get her comeuppance. I think there are two more regular evictions (after this one) before the final week, and I can't imagine she'll escape being up twice.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 7:27 pm
If anyone has a live feed link they might enjoy watching it now. Marcus is giving Bea what she deserves, she doesn't like it but is clinging on. Hopefully it will make tomorrow's highlights.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 8:17 pm
I just started watching tonight's live feeds and came here to say that in Bea's long, windy conversation with Charlie she said that she wanted to move from where she had been living because it was a small town and everyone hated her. Then she corrected and said that they didn't really hate her, they just thought she was too loud. I can hardly wait to see the part you mention. Rubbing my hands in glee.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 8:59 pm
Unfortunately Freddie might have shot himself in the foot a bit. I was cooking and only listening to the sound, but at some point Freddie got up and came into the room just as Bea was crying over how mean and horrible Marcus was and how she didn't deserve his negativity and that Freddie made him do it etc. etc. etc. Anyway Freddie laughed at her, I think because he was just incredulous that she was doing it again, but of course she jumped on him for laughing at her misery and Charlie then attacked him and poor poor Bea had to go to the diary room she was so upset. So depending on how they play that in the highlights it might look bad for Freddie. Marcus was great again though, and he even told Freddie to go back to bed, which he did, because otherwise they were just going to make him say something he'd regret. I am not surprised in the slightest that everyone hates her where she lives. Even her friends, when asked on BBLB whether the Bea we were seeing was the real one said basically it was. I haven't seen all seasons of BBUK but I can't remember anyone who treated people anywhere near as badly as she does. She really makes me actually physically tense to hear her!
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 10:35 pm
Wow, I finally got to that section. Charlie was as horrible to Freddie as Bea had been. Didn't let him get a word in. I don't get it. Charlie acted as if he had no idea that Bea had attacked Freddie and seemed to buy Bea's claim that Freddie had victimized her. I bet all the talking she has been doing to those without much thought power (see I didn't call them stupid ) made them think black is white and white is black. Charlie was kicking Freddie while he is down and telling Freddie to stop kicking Bea when she is down. I think BB has hated the idea of Freddie's popularity since the beginning and really wants him out. Marcus sincerely wants to go. I can see how BB could edit this to get rid of Freddie and keep Marcus.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 11:00 pm
I admire your choice of words! I've been wondering what BB think about this. Despite of the problems Marcus has caused I think they like him, probably because when he's not being rude and rebellious he talks like a normal person, albeit a normal person with unusual taste and a weird thing about his hair. I really suspect that when he hasn't got a bee in his bonnet about something he's really nice and normal to the DR people. I'm not sure how they feel about Freddie. I find him hard not to care about, because he tries so hard to be a good person, and I don't know if the diary room people see that and want him to stay despite everything. Out of the two I don't know who they'd want out. It's sad one of them has to go. For me it has to be Marcus because a) he's softened the blow for himself by saying he wants to go and do the extra shows (BBLB etc.), b) I believe he half means that, and c) if Freddie went it would make Bea feel smug and I would hate that so much!
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 11:51 pm
Not only Bea, but all of Lisa group. Even the ones who are long gone. They were so horrible to him for so long and if he now goes they will feel vindicated. Of all of them, I'd trust Freddie as a person the most and Marcus next. The rest of them are just not the kind of people I'd want to trust with a secret, or depend on for anything. Siavash is OK and not nasty, but does waffle when confronted and is afraid to take a stand. If Freddie or Marcus say they stand for something, they really do mean it. It really is too bad they are against each other. I think Bea has ruined Freddie's chance of winning, but I do hope he lasts until the final. If only he hadn't been so taken with her and trusted her so much.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 9:55 am
Why does everyone in the Friday audiences like Charlie so much? I didn't see what some of you described above, but I've never liked Charlie that much. How many times does he get to carry 'jokes' too far with Rodrigo before he gets booted by BB? Now he goes off on Freddie w/o knowing the whole story. I just don't understand the public adoration for him.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:06 am
I totally agree about Marcus and Freddie, MamaB. I think with Charlie, if you don't pay much attention he just comes off as fun loving, in fact he really seems to be pushing that persona. He made me really uneasy at the beginning, I think there's something very volatile about him. Did you know his mum had an aneurysm and has been in a coma for two years? I guess that has a lot to do with why he turns so easily, there's got to be some suppressed emotion there that occasionally bursts out. BBLB has just shown a clip of BB in the diary room telling Rodrigo that it was a lookalike queen. I'm glad they did it soon and in private. He seems to have reacted ok.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:15 am
No, Kitt, I didn't know about Charlie's Mom. He does seem so volatile. I'm listening to Episode 80 right now and Bea is the one who got Rodrigo thinking he'd meet the real queen. Lol @ her whining that she should be the one doing what Marcus wants to do. Marcus has met his match in her. I can't believe Marcus going on and on about a picture. Geez, Marcus..get over it. You aren't good looking @ all, so who cares what your picture looks like...so vain. Has Sophie gained weight? Her face looks puffy. I didn't recognize her.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 12:29 pm
Yeah, Sophie's gained a couple of pounds I think. I guess if you're that skinny (something I know nothing about!) then just a few pounds makes a visual difference, particularly if you don't have a change of clothes. They had special prizes for passing the royal task, and Marcus chose to have a new photo made. Seeing the one he chose (on BBLB) and the one they gave him I kind of see why he was so upset now. The original looked so much like a caricature. The new one is actually not bad looking.
 
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 1:10 pm
I'm confused, Kitt.Which one did he choose and which did they choose? Which one is now his permanent picture; the one on the left or the right? The one on the right is okay and the one on the left is him as well. He really needs to cut that hair. It's so unattractive. I finally remembered the right time to watch the live feed updates and dcb is off-air. Is there another place to watch? Thanks in advance.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 1:17 pm
The one on the left was the original picture. Marcus posed for a new one, and they showed the one he chose on BBLB, however I couldn't find that... instead the one on the right is from the "photo shoot" they did and is a lot like the one he chose. It sounded like the new pic would be his official photo from now on, but so far the old one is still at the Ch4 site. The show's on at 2pm board time today... I think DCB will have it, he showed BBLB this morning. I have to go to work very soon so I won't get to see it until later.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 1:36 pm
Thanks about the picture, Kitt. Hmm, seems Marcus doesn't like his foo foo look anymore. Maybe he'll cut that long mullett. Ugh! Ooohh, I thought it was on @ 1:00 PM board time. Been sitting here all ready for it for once, lol. Thanks so much for the correct time. That's what I get for not going back and looking @ the schedule you posted.
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Tissy
Member
07-28-2003
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 2:06 pm
Mixed feelings about this eviction I want Freddie to stay because Charlie/Bea/Lisa/David will be so smug if he gets evicted. Charlie has been after Freddie ever since they found out that he was favourite with the public. Charlie is so desperate to win if Freddie leaves that`s one less person in his way I want Marcus to stay because he`s the only one who`ll stand up to Bea!
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 2:30 pm
I don't understand why Freddyie is acting so smug and sure that he will be the one staying. It's infuriating the others and it might upset the public. He never acted like this when he was nommed before and it's been a few weeks since he was nommed every week. He's too complacent and just might be in for a shocker. The public isn't going to vote Marcus out just because that's what he wants. ETA: Did Marcus cut his ponytail off?
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 2:34 pm
ROFLMAO @ Rodrigo meeting the umm..Queen! Too funny. ETA: Is Bea going to ruin it for the house by complaining about deceiving Rodrigo?
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Tissy
Member
07-28-2003
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 3:20 pm
Freddie has said in the DR that he`s unsure whether he`ll stay or not - BB havent shown that on the hls. Agree that it winds up hms/public when he says that sort of thing - Perhaps he believes the public will evict Marcus because he`s said so often he wants to leave? Apparently Freddie only ever watched parts of BB1 so he obviously doesnt know how the public react etc., etc., Rodrigo was so cute tonight p.s. I think Marcus will still be in the house come saturday!
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 4:02 pm
Tissy, I think you may be right. Part of it may be because of the way Marcus is trying to uber control his own eviction. He won't let Freddy open his mouth because he doesn't want Freddy to give anyone a reason to evict Freddy over Marcus, lol. Maybe the public will tire of this control and not give Marcus his way. Also, hah, hah, Marcus can't hear every word Freddy says to the other housemates. I just thought it above arrogance when Freddy was trying to tell Charlie what Bea had been doing and Marcus orders him to go back to bed. Geez..what a complete control freak. Any time anything is going on in that house, you hear Marcus in the background telling people what to do and how to do it. He just can't let anything happen without butting in.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 6:12 pm
Just watching Rodrigo saluting the queen!!!!!! lmao!!!!! Aww poor little thing... She's being very helpful. He forgot to strain the tea!!!!! I'm so glad he saw the funny side of being fooled, he's so sweet when he's like this. He's going to be a top three winner unless he messes it up! Freddie was a bit manic today, and that's not his better side. I think it's going to be pretty close between him and Marcus. To me, when he tells people he's going to stay it's more bravado than belief, particularly if he's talking to Bea or that lot. It's a shame it comes off a bit as arrogance, as I don't think that's where it's coming from. Hmmm I'm a little suspicious of Marcus telling Bea to be nice to Freddie so that he doesn't look bad and Marcus will go. Wonder what Bea will do, hmmm... maybe the opposite. Cry me a river Bea. Can't we just scrap this eviction and get rid of her instead?
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Sarasmile
Member
02-09-2007
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 7:48 pm
Kitt - I just finished the HL show and wanted to post the same exact phrase you did: Can't we just scrap this eviction and get rid of her instead? I have watched a lot of BB in my time and I have never had such love/hate relationships with so many housemates as I have this one! I love Bea because her behavior is so disruptive that it brings out amazing behavior from Marcus and Freddie. I can't imagine what the house will be like when one of them goes tomorrow. Marcus is still my favorite right now because he does hold his own with Bea - but then Freddie got up and his interaction with Charlie was brilliant. I just can't stand that one of them will be gone... And Rodrigo with the "Queen" has won my heart once again. I think I seriously had tears in my eyes when he was singing the anthem to her! I was so proud of Rodrigo for taking the news that the Queen was fake so very well. He really showed what a good sport he can be - and yes, I totally enjoyed that task more than any other this year! How precious was that Queen? Absolutely adorable - I would vote for her to win if I could 
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:30 pm
My dream scenario for Friday's live show would be that Davina announces that someone overlooked checking on Bea's background and it has been discovered that she has escaped from a mental hospital. Since she has to go back, no eviction at all. Of course I know it won't happen, but I can dream. I hate to see either Marcus or Freddie go for different reasons. If I could vote, I don't think I'd be able to. I wonder if the voting numbers will be down this week. The only redeeming feature of this vote is that whoever is left will likely be against Bea next week. She will get hers. I have to think that she will be booted before the final. I'd hate to see her out without a grilling and visits to the other shows where she is brought to her knees. I know they won't be as harsh on her as she deserves, but the audience will not be at all positive. I think they will be negative and find her quite negative too.
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