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Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 11:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I saw some talk on DS earlier about a large bet being made on a breakout from BB, and now this. All just a big stunt and I'm not impressed. At least we'll be spared a lot of shows about him. I wonder if Karly's request for pills really was a coded message

Kitt and others, do you think this was a stunt pulled by Kenneth to make money off the bets? I feel bad for Karly. She was soo excited to see him and look what he's done to her.

How's that for two paragraphs saying absolutely nothing? ;)

Clear as mud! HAH! HAH!

If there are going to be 2 evictions, were the rules that only one new and one original HG would be evicted? Why do you think Marcus (I hope) or Noirin might go over another newbie?

ETA: Guess I might want to read ALL the posts before replying. I can't believe they cancelled the vote. So anticlimatic. Bummer!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I think it was a stunt. I think he's all about manipulation, and he went in with several different options for an exit, depending on how liked he was. He probably thought he could be a Dr Will character, outrageously bad but so clever people still enjoyed him, but failed miserably at the people liking him part. And the being clever part.

I'm really miffed they're going to interview him, particularly live. I don't think they interviewed Saffia at all did they? I just hope they really control the conversation and not just give him a platform for whatever rubbish he wants to put out there. I suppose with bad ratings this season Ch4 are going to milk it, but at least they could give the audience what they want, which is to give Ken a dressing down.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Is anyone watching right now? I came in on the show late, but I don't understand what Freddie is saying. He needed people to win, but he told some of them to throw, thereby confusing some of them. They lost the food shopping. I just can't understand his explanation. I know he wanted Siavash to win, but Tom said he was confused by Freddie saying "Give it 100%" but in a way Tom thought he wanted him to throw it.

Did Freddie overmanipulate this or did he put all his hopes on Siavash?

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 3:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Then the tears in the DR and the birth control pill story... it was all a bit odd to me.

I've been multitasking and heard, not saw, Kenneth in the DR. Is he saying he isn't liked because he was looking for Karly's birth control pills? Or..was it a BB task. Was he allowed to tell the others he was looking for these pills? Is he saying THAT's why he left?

Why did Marcus go so far with him toward the outside? Does Marcus think he will be evicted Friday?

ETA: Or..was Marcus escorting Ken out because he hoped that would keep him from getting evicted? Hmmm. Just thought about that.

Flagg
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06-01-2005

Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 3:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flagg a private message Print Post    
No Kenneth seems to think that since she is asking for her birth control pills that means she is cheating on him. He obviously doesn't grasp how the pill works and thinks she just takes it when she's having sex, like using a condom. What a genius.

The funny thing is she probably wanted them to make sure she was "safe" for when he got out. Or else it really is a coded message to let him know he is hated.

I think the pill thing is just a convenient excuse he latched onto when he realized he was going on Friday and was thoroughly hated.

As for Freddie, he overplayed and overthought the whole thing. Even if they had won the right tasks they would have still failed because he was giving them so many hints.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 5:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I haven't had a chance to see today's show yet, but people on DS are saying right now Noirin and Siavash are in bed kissing while Marcus has been in the DR for ages, presumably getting his punishment!

Also someone who had a ticket for the live show says he received an email saying BB says even though there's no eviction BB has something up his sleeve.

I'd just love it if Noirin's ex came in right now!

eta: Marcus is in jail in the garden for the night!! About time!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 8:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Noirin's silly too (on tonight's show). If there's a task going on and you think you've rumbled it, DON'T go on about it or BB will fail the task! And Freddie just can't keep a secret, and he's so unsubtle!

Ooops and Marcus got another reprimand for unacceptable language!

Kenny's unable to perform. How sad I am :-). A warrior's exit!? Not what I was thinking... And Marcus thinks it was a nice gesture?!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 9:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Today Tom's talking of leaving because the only people he gets on with and Freddie and Siavash.

Lisa is upset because Noirin told Charlie that everyone who's close to Lisa has been evicted and it must be because no one likes her. Then Charlie went and told Lisa...

And I don't think Marcus has found out about Noirin and Siavash yet!

Lots of talk of a new person going in tonight to replace Kenneth!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Davina will be speaking to Kenneth and Karly in the second show tonight. Apparently they've been seen out together so expect excuses.

People are saying that they were trying to get Noirin's boyfriend into the house tonight, but couldn't get the testing and clearance done on time, so he'll be entering Sunday instead. Not sure if there's truth to that, but earlier BB were saying there was a surprise in store tonight, and giving hints about a new person, but then just now Davina didn't mention anything like that. Sounds like there could have been a hitch.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
No one interested in Kenneth's interview? The psychologist says he has behaviour reminiscent of a sociopath! Davina was harsher than she normally is, but I'd still rather not have him interviewed really.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I'm listening to it right now, Kitt. Davina is trying to find something positive about him, lol.

Ohhh, he says he's talked to Karly; she was angry with him; he apologized. She is the love of his life and they are now engaged?

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Karly's being pretty disrespectful to Kenneth. I mean the guy deserves it but she either forgives him or she doesn't, there's no good saying theyve sorted it out and then being cruel to him.

Did he say they were engaged? I missed that!

I see Davina has the same hair issues I have (re: Siavash)!

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 3:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I couldn't tell for sure, Kitt. I thought I heard that after 'the love of my life' bit. Karly isn't saying they are, so prob. not.

I didn't see her being that rude to him, but I stepped away for a bit. Personally, he prob. deserves it.

I was very surprised the body language guy pretty much let Karly off the hook...except for saying, "Yeah, she prob. fancies Kris." Why would he say that?

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 3:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I thought the psychologist was going to say that Karly hadn't really forgiven him, but instead they focused on Kris. I think she could get a lot of mileage (in the papers) if she played it up with Kris, but then of course she wouldn't be bought dresses and diamonds, would she?

Sarasmile
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02-09-2007

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sarasmile a private message Print Post    
Color me confused, but I just don't get the Noirin/Siavash liaison... have I really missed something along the way? They act like this attraction has been going on a long time and yet I don't remember seeing signs of it at all. If anyone has any insight that would help me out, I'd really appreciate it, because I'm losing a lot of interest in the show due to being dumbstruck by this romance! And with the way BBUS is going, I need to cling to BBUK!!!!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I think the producers really messed up, because whatever was brewing they either never noticed or never thought it was worth showing. Remember earlier in the series, possibly when Sree was still there, Noirin complained to someone that she had Sree, Marcus, Freddie and Siavash mooning over her? I didn't think they showed anything to suggest he'd done anything even back then. I think it must just have been a subtle connection that slowly grew, and then that blow up over rabbit-gate and the make up afterwards brought it to a fore.

Alternatively some on the forums are very suspicious that Noirin gave in to Siavash's advances just a day after Tom and Bea let on that Siavash was very popular outside the house.

Siavash's girlfriend more or less dumped him on her facebook page. Must be hard for her.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Whatever Niorin has, she should bottle it and sell it. She is pretty, but not all that nice. Why do they all want her? It might just be that she is the only game in town.

I thought that Siavash said he lied about having a girl friend in the diary room today. Or maybe he doesn't want to public to hate him for dumping her on a tv show. He should know, if it's in the world, it will end up on the net.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 5:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I was thinking how clever BB were in their selection of the new people. Everyone in the house had someone to form a new relationship, good or bad.

The two favourites, Freddie and Siavash, got potential love interests in Bea and Hira (even though I suspect Hira hasn't lived up to potential).

Ken was clearly for Karly and Sophie, depending on whether Karly went.

Tom was a rival for Marcus, both physically, but also because he was a potential love interest for Noirin.

David was a possible "opposite" pairing for Lisa, being a fellow Brummie, fellow gay.

The only two that missed out were Charlie and Rodrigo. It's possible they thought either might connect with David but unlikely I think. I think more probably is they liked what is developing between Charlie and Rodrigo and didn't want to mess with it.

Just thought it was interesting how much effort BB probably put in matching up the newbies.

Sarasmile
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02-09-2007

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sarasmile a private message Print Post    
I did think that Noirin continued playing Marcus because she thought he was popular with the public (after he survived eviction) and wondered if she thought the same thing about Siavash. Remember how everyone was extremely tolerant of Sree for a long time in the beginning because they thought he would be a very popular HM with the public?

I think I need to get over it - I agree with Mama - Noirin will have a nice income from selling her own line of BB perfume. At least it will be popular in jails

Sarasmile
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02-09-2007

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sarasmile a private message Print Post    
I do think BB had high hopes for the first gay romance in the house... or at least for some better flirting between Charlie and Rodrigo. I don't think they clued Rodrigo in on their plans though.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Did you see Noirin's "exclusive audition footage" that Ch4 put up recently?

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/video/970df15757966620edf90e8c45c91a02/play.c4

It's not very flattering and she says she's always attracted men, often purposely. She really comes across as a flirt and user, to me at least.


Siavash has been off and on about whether he really has/had a girlfriend, but he does mention her and it's been confirmed on the outside on BBLB. It must be hard for them in there if there is an attraction and they're with someone 24/7, but still... he should have sorted it out before he went in as this just makes him look bad.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 7:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
On live feed right now Siavash is talking to Sophie. He's worried that the public won't like him because he pretended to have a girlfriend and now it looks as if he's cheated on her.

"Why did I say I have a girlfriend?" <--- direct quote.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 7:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
OK, he told Sophie that he only dated this girl for a month and he's sorry he called her his girlfriend.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 10:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I think he's playing it down so as to not look so bad. She's been on BBLB as his girlfriend, and so have some of his friends, talking about her. They obviously had a relationship that the people around thought was girlfriend/boyfriend, even if they had a different arrangement. If I had any sort of not-quite committed but let's try to keep it going sort of relationship before going in the house I'd... well I wouldn't, the temptation in the house, what with the cabin fever, would be far too great, if you happened to find a connection with someone.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Friday, July 24, 2009 - 11:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
It really is a situation of if you can't be with the one you love, just love the one you're with. They are isolated. They are young. Their hormones are raging. They are going to be attracted to people they wouldn't ordinarily look at and forget the ones they left behind. Right now it is a mess. Let's see, Niorin wants Siavash and Tom. Marcus wants Niorin. Siavash wants Niorin. Who does Tom want? Likely whoever he thinks he can get.

This is so much better than BB US. At least the folks left in the house aren't nearly as hateful as the US crew. They could easily be, but the nicer ones are keeping the whole show on a more even keel so that the nasty ones are just annoying. I really like Bea more each time I see her. I hope the final two are Freddie and Bea. Then I won't care who wins.