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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 12:24 pm
If they succeed, will the nominated others be up also? If Noirin got 5 votes and both Freddie and Lisa got got 4 votes, would all three of them be up for eviction? That wouldn't be too bad because then we'd know who was going. Even if it is Freddie and Niorin, she will go. I do think they will fail. Bea has already said she doesn't want to do it. I think Hira will go if the newbies are all up.... but would they be up with whoever gets nominated, or just by themselves. Lisa could save the day for all of them if only they'd nominate her.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 12:50 pm
I think if they get Noirin plus Freddie plus Lisa nominated then they would win their task and those three would be up. But I think BB would be under a lot of criticism for essentially fixing this week's eviction, even though the two picked were random, I think they have to make it that if the newbies succeed then the nominations are void and all originals are up. (If they fail the task all newbies are up like they said.)
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Flagg
Member
06-01-2005
| Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 1:12 pm
nominating 3 would be pretty hard to do. It hasn't happened yet this year and without being able to plan ahead to tie the votes, the odds are pretty scarce that they will do it. They'll undoubtedly fail the task and the 5 newbies plus 2 others will go up. Though BB never clarified that so if they don't like the 2 old HMs picked they might just put up the 5 newbies.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 1:42 pm
There are eight originals so 16 noms available. They only need one person, say Lisa, to get four or five noms (from Marcus, Siavash, Freddie, Noirin and maybe Rodrigo) then it's quite likely there would be more than one with three noms and Lisa plus the threes would be up. If there are no four/five noms there are still likely to be several threes (Lisa, Marcus, Noirin). I think it's pretty likely to happen, particularly now Karly's gone so the sides are more spread out. My first impression of Kenneth tonight is that I don't like him, too arrogant. He might grow on me now, he seems intelligent and sensible underneath his arrogance. He was quite direct with what he thought of Karly's "devolution" in the house! Bea seems nice. I can see Hira wearing on me. Not sure about the other two yet. I think BB said only the newbies would be up if they failed, not the newbies plus the nominees. Might have misunderstood though.
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Flagg
Member
06-01-2005
| Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 1:44 pm
Good highlights show today. The Marcus Noirin date was cringe-worthy. Karly's BF seems more intelligent than anyone else in the house, though a bit full of himself perhaps. It should be interesting to see how he does in the game. There was a DR with him where he mentioned Karly's time in the house and how she may have wasted it with all the complaining and b1tching.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 1:55 pm
Oh, don't like Tom (think it's Tom??) for teasing Sophie. That was a bit cruel. It obviously made her uncomfortable. Yeah, the Marcus-Noirin dancing was awkward. Another example of her mixed signals though, saying they should dance, telling him how romantic it was. No wonder he thinks she could like him that way. Did David and Lisa know each other before? He seemed particularly enthusiastic when meeting her.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 2:09 pm
There was one point in the show where all the housemates were mingling in small groups. Marcus was in one group while Noirin was in another group. His attention was on his group but she kept glancing over to look at him. I think she does like him and is attracted to him but is sort of ashamed since he isn't the kind of man she would expect to be with. If they were outside, she'd never look at him twice, but since they have been so close for so long, she's feeling feelings that she doesn't want to acknowledge. Just a thought. Kenneth was fine until he started his speechifying in the diary room. He deserves Karly. They deserve each other. I think David is playing the game hard and Tom isn't all he thinks he is. I'm betting he will become more and more aggressive as he realizes that the women in the house aren't interested. Hira is a blank and will likely be the one voted out if they fail their task... unless of course Lisa is up too.
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Sarasmile
Member
02-09-2007
| Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 2:15 pm
I swear I almost cried when Sophie got to see her puppy... it was so sweet! I thought they would give her a picture or maybe a video. How cute was that dog?
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 2:46 pm
No wonder he thinks she could like him that way. Maybe she was just trying to make the time go fast?? I understand where all of you are coming from, but I see her as going back and forth because she's stuck in the house with him and she's scared if he goes off her, he'll possibly get her nommed. I missed the live updates. Hope the other site will put them up so I can watch them later. What did Tom do to Sophie? I think he likes her. He sure was looking @ her yesterday in the bedroom.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 3:22 pm
Tom (I think it was Tom, it was the one with the muscles) was in the kitchen basically mocking her for not being smart. He was saying that pork pies had alcohol in them, and you could get drunk from putting the pie in your mouth and breathing in through your nose. It wasn't what he said really, just that he was so obviously saying something ridiculous and he seemed to think she was so dumb she would believe it - no humour in it, just mocking. She knew it wasn't true and just seemed a bit awkward because she knew she was being mocked. That little dog's tail almost wagged itself off!! Very sweet.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 7:06 pm
I'm getting this from DS, so might not be true, but I thought some might be amused. Noirin and Tom were flirting. Marcus was mad. Tom started flirting with Sophie. Noirin was mad and.... went back to Marcus! Marcus is happy again.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 7:27 pm
Just finished watching a true "witch with a b" session. Marcus, Niorin, Charlie, Sophie and Rodrigo were comparing notes on Tom. They like everyone else who came in, but do not trust Tom. Apparently, Tom has told them that he only watched a few shows and has no idea what's going on. BUT he knows their weaknesses and has gone to each of them saying that he likes or doesn't like the same things they like. To Freddie he mentioned that he loves Earl Grey tea, Freddie's favorite. He was trying to play on Sophie's insecurities about Kris. He stole a can of beer and lied about it to Siavash. His attitude was that he knew Siavash would not make a big deal about it. He told each of them something that he likes that they like. They all think he's playing too hard, too fast.... except Rodrigo. Rod also noticed the same things but thinks they need to give Tom more time before they judge him. They all say that they won't say or do anything, but just keep an eye on him. David joined them and added his own comment. Tom said he was going to take a shower and David joked that he would come and watch. Tom gave him a dirty look. It looks as if the games have begun. 
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 7:32 pm
I'm getting this from DS, so might not be true, but I thought some might be amused. Noirin and Tom were flirting. Marcus was mad. Tom started flirting with Sophie. Noirin was mad and.... went back to Marcus! Marcus is happy again. From what Noirin and Sophie were saying, Tom was trying to play them against each other and was annoyed that neither of them took the bait. I got this just from their conversation after the fact. They might both have been trying to save face and pretend they weren't flirting with Tom. Meanwhile, Marcus' solution was that he an Noirin would make a great show of being best friends to keep Tom away from Noirin. Noirin THANKED him for that and when they went back into the bedroom, they made a great show of hugging each other goodnight.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 8:00 pm
Fun fun fun! Tom just seems to be trouble! I wish I could watch some of the live stuff but it's just impossible at the weekend.
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Tissy
Member
07-28-2003
| Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 9:30 am
Ken reckons he`s been offered a show in America <16 episodes> which would involve Karly and Sophie... http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/video/1a345d80f6a04d1e5f3f95d097cb66df/play.c4
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Flagg
Member
06-01-2005
| Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 11:07 am
Wow that one video has completely changed my opinion of Kenneth. What a deluded jerk. And what American show would give a crap about UK BB chicks? He's obviously a liar as well. So he's out for all the money he can milk out of his appearance on BB. This explains why he wasn't at all bothered that his "girlfriend" left the house 5 minutes after he went in. I wonder how Karly feels watching this on TV. I hope he keeps up this kind of behavior and he['ll probably be out on Friday.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 11:17 am
Whoa! Is he completely making it up or does he just know a "friend of a friend" who works for MTV or something!?!? And how's Karly meant to feel about what he said, even if it was true?! Note how he almost let slip to Lisa that Kris had dumped Sophie. Yep, I think if this sort of stuff makes the Highlights show he'll be out on Friday.
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Flagg
Member
06-01-2005
| Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 1:00 pm
Reading various posts on DS it appears that Kenneth has been very active on forums in promoting Karly on BB. There's a rather boring website dedicated to her as well. If Karly and her BF were that motivated to make her famous via Big Brother, you'd think she would have tried to be a bit nicer in the house. Now with Kenneth in there he's acting like he;s on US BB which will end up getting him quickly evicted.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 1:12 pm
Because people know Kenneth when he goes out he has to have 15 or 17 bottles of wine?!?! What's that about? It does seems like it's one big promotion effort. It's hard to take anyone like him seriously.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 1:49 pm
Noirin THANKED him for that and when they went back into the bedroom, they made a great show of hugging each other goodnight. Okay, I'm done with Noirin. I just heard her singing Marcus' praises to Tom. Doesn't she realize Marcus is still using her too? Does she have Stockholm Syndrome or something for crying out loud? If she likes Tom, go for him. He'll pick one eventually. I'm not saying get upset with Sophie over it, but why go with Marcus whom will now NEVER leave her alone. Shame on her for ruining my anticipation of seeing Marcus/Tom get into it. Why are Tom/Siavash arguing? Has Hira effectively explained the newbies task yet?
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 1:54 pm
Wait a minute. Maybe the task was passed on to Tom correctly, so he was trying to get Sophie/Noirin fighting to get Noirin nommed. Hah, hah..the new flower girl isn't interested in Freddie. So much for production.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 4:25 pm
Tom and Siavash were arguing because Lisa's bottle of beer went missing, no one owned up to it, and Siavash said he saw Tom take it. Not sure which of Tom/Siavash was mistaken but Siavash is just going to get himself into trouble if he says things like that! I think they have a good idea of what the task is now. I think maybe Hira understood but is one of those people who likes talking not listening and was happier asking Big Brother to repeat it than just quietly listening to the task. Don't know if that's true, I'm just getting the impression she is sharper than she seemed, just a bit manic. That exchange with Bea and Charlie and Lisa (or was it Sophie?) was odd. I wasn't sure if I believed Bea, it just seemed an odd reaction for her to be so shocked that Charlie was a bit smitten with her when she'd obviously watched and liked him on the show before she came into the house, and obviously knew he's basically harmless. I wondered if either she was just trying to make sure that Charlie and co didn't think she'd already paired up with Freddie and wasn't interesting in mingling with them, or it was a half-hearted attempt to play to the task and get them (mildly) against Freddie for appearing smitten so soon. I might be wrong (again!) but her reaction just didn't seem genuine to me.
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Sarasmile
Member
02-09-2007
| Monday, July 20, 2009 - 7:34 am
I also wondered that, Kitt. It's a possibility that Bea's reaction to Sophie and Charlie's (rather playful) teasing about Freddie was her best attempt at completing the task. She could confide in both of them that he is making her uncomfortable now and hope that they will nominate him just for that. I personally doubt it would work (and probably she would agree) but she would have made the attempt!
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Flagg
Member
06-01-2005
| Monday, July 20, 2009 - 8:39 am
There's a new video up on the OS where Bea, Tom and Kenneth are discussing the task. Bea says she's not going to do it as she gets on with Freddie. Kenneth, true to form, starts berating her for "not pulling her weight at all". If anything, she's the smartest of the lot. She knows the public loves Freddie, so by making it clear that she won't actively try to work against him, she gains public support and in the process will help to eliminate one of the other new HMs. At the same time the other newbies make themselves look bad by going after her for not helping to oust Freddie. It's not like the odds of being evicted are very high with 5 or possibly 7 nominees. If it becomes clear tat they won't complete the task the other newbies would be smarter to follow the same course rather than being nasty about it and making the public hate them more.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, July 20, 2009 - 8:49 am
Yeah, some of them are playing way too hard, but Bea has an advantage anyway, in that she's instantly likeable. The men in particular are much less instantly likeable, so have more to lose. Nominations are today. Here's what Ch4 say about them: Well, firstly, the five new housemates can't nominate, and the old housemates can't nominate the newbies. Which leaves eight - Noirin, Halfwit, Lisa, Rodrigo, Dogface, Marcus, Charlie and Siavash. The old lot will nominate. If enough nominations go to Halfwit and Noirin, they will face the public vote, and all the new housemates will survive to see another week in the House. If any other original housemate receives enough nominations they will also face Eviction, alongside Halfwit and Noirin. If Halfwit and Noirin don't end up facing the public vote, the five new housemates will have failed their challenge and will therefore face the public vote themselves. No other housemates will join them in the line up regardless of the nomination results. I still think it's wrong to have manipulated nominations stand. I'll post the tv schedule a bit later, but today's show is at 10pm.
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