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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Monday, August 03, 2009 - 6:12 pm
Thinking about it.... BB could have the whole house on a basic budget in any week that any housemate refused to nominate. Siavash would hate that. OR... they could have a random drawing among the other housemates with two selected to have one more nomination each. That would be taking a chance that Siavash did go up, but more likely that one of his friends would get more votes than they ordinarily would. I'm sure BB will come up with a brilliant solution and Siavash will decide to nominate.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, August 03, 2009 - 6:32 pm
I think they need to do something really unfair, but unfortunately that would be... unfair. I get the impression Siavash honestly feels he wouldn't be evicted if up, and that the person/people he's up against would be more deserving of being evicted. He gets the ego-bump for escaping an eviction and fulfils his personal martyr requirement for being up in the first place. If someone he didn't want to be evicted, or someone he felt didn't deserve to be evicted went, (or there was a good chance that one of those would go) he might begin to think of his role as more of the villain, and decide against it. I like your idea of a random drawing but I think they should do a random drawing for the people who would actually face eviction. If it was Marcus and Freddie, for instance, he'd feel really bad. But on the other hand the viewers might (quite rightly) be very very upset if that sort of thing happened. Plus.... again it might end up that the hms nominate Siavash next week, because of what he did this week, and of course that's what he wants, so BB doesn't want that. Maybe it's as simple as saying to Siavash that if he doesn't nominate then no one can nominate him? That might make him feel ignoble about not nominating.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Monday, August 03, 2009 - 7:49 pm
Double ditto here, Kitt. Never, ever, shut up..please! You've been so helpful here and I love reading your posts, updates and all the great inside scoops you find. Hmm, if Siavash wants to go home so badly, why doesn't he just walk? I have to admit I was sad last Friday watching the eviction of Noirin. I know many of you didn't like her, but I did and still feel she got a bum rap because too many guys liked her. The only original person I still like is Sophie, so I guess I'll root for her now.
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Sarasmile
Member
02-09-2007
| Monday, August 03, 2009 - 8:06 pm
Cricket - I really like Sophie now and I didn't at all in the beginning. Actually, the only time I like Rodrigo is when he is goofing off with Sophie! I know you guys aren't fans, but I am incredibly entertained by Bea... she is the best HM. She stirs up trouble and is pretentious, but then humbles herself and tries to make up. She plays the game really hard then doesn't know what to do, and just faulters... I find it all very amusing Marcus fascinates me also... I don't know why... he, like Bea, tries to play soooooo hard and faulters, I find it all so funny! Tonight's episode was one of the best to me - I laughed my head off at the task and enjoyed all the interactions - positive and negative. That's what Big Brother is all about for me - the interactions are so basic and complicated at the same time!
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Sarasmile
Member
02-09-2007
| Monday, August 03, 2009 - 8:08 pm
BTW Kitt - what in the world IS Yorkshire pudding? And you put gravy on it???? Please help me out with this one! Really, I don't know 
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Sarasmile
Member
02-09-2007
| Monday, August 03, 2009 - 8:20 pm
Oh and as for Siavash not nominating - BB should tell him nominate or leave through the door on the right. He would very quickly say "Lisa and Hira"!
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, August 03, 2009 - 8:23 pm
Thank you. Ok I promise not to talk about shutting up in future! Sophie seems to be nice but she quickly gets pulled into nasty talk with Lisa. If Lisa were to go soon, I think Sophie could easily be top three. I don't know if Siavash wants to go, he just wants it to be a kind of pure experience, with the public choosing who stays or who goes. Pretty naive really, and annoys me a bit as he knew what would happen when he went in the house. I have another refinement to my plan... If Siavash won't nominate then: . the others nominate normally but any votes for Siavash don't count and Siavash CANNOT be up for eviction. . the others don't know that any nominations for Siavash don't count, and if they nominate him, basically their nomination is wasted without their knowledge . Siavash knows that if the others nominate him it doesn't count, but he cannot tell them. If he tells them then THEY are are for eviction . the viewers know what's happening with Siavash and Siavash knows the public knows. Hopefully with all that Siavash would be shamed into not doing it again. I wonder what Big Brother will actually do.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, August 03, 2009 - 8:32 pm
Bea entertains me too. You can see her brain scheming! I'd like her to stay for a while, just to keep things interesting. Yorkshire pudding is basically batter roasted at a really high temperature in a lot of oil. You make a runny pancake batter, put a little oil in the bottom of the holes of a bun/muffin pan, heat until 450 degreee, then when it's hot pour the batter into each hole and put back in the oven for 10 minutes or so. The batter turns out crunchy on the outside and kind of airy on the inside. It doesn't have much taste (hence the gravy), and is really just another excuse for some roasted carbs! If you've ever heard of toad in the hole that's the same batter, just put in a big pan with sausages laid on top. When the batter puffs up it half covers the sausages.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Monday, August 03, 2009 - 9:10 pm
I LOVE LOVE LOVE Yorkshire pudding. Had it once in Canada and learned how to make it pretty good myself. If you've ever had popovers, it's the same batter, but with oil or the grease drippings from the roast instead of butter. Love it! The only ones I dislike are Rodrigo, Lisa and David. I like Freddie, Siavash and Bea. The others come and go for me. To me Bea is the most interesting because she is so hot and cold. Smart one day then says stupid things like no moon landing. She is friendly one day and putting down the next. I love the ladylike way she cuts people down. I still want Freddie to win, but now it's more out of pity than that I actually like him. He seems to live in his own little world. He thinks all these people fancy him, but they don't. Sophie and Charlie have good days and bad days for me. One day they can be sweet as pie and the next they are back to back biting with Lisa.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, August 03, 2009 - 9:14 pm
Usually served with roast beef or prime rib in restaurants here. Sort of a big ugly hollow muffin LOL. But to be on topic....Marcus has to go. i'm so tired of his " I am a repressable Dark Horse" crap. the night he sat peeling his toenails and eating them still makes me ill when i think of it. I'm glad BB is locking him up for his big Mouth and his silly attention seeking actions. Bea is making me crazy these days and HW is starting to have his spark killed off. Sia is a hollow shell of whom he was pre-Noirin. But during live feeds yesterday I was laughing til i cried. David Rod and DF drunk and gorking down candy was sooo funny.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:30 am
According to the Ch4 site, it seems that the "group will incur a punishment" for Siavash not nominating, but they haven't said what that is. Doesn't sound like it's going to affect nominations, but I guess we'll find out on BBLB. They're doing an Alice in Wonderland task which sounds like messy, "eat me," "drink me," fun.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 9:07 am
ALL are up and it's a VOTE TO SAVE. This is punishment for Siavash not nominating and Marcus discussing noms. Trouble with this is the least interesting goes, and that's Hira. Maybe David? I guess possibly Lisa doesn't have many friends but I would think Hira has less just because she hasn't really done anything. No chance of going: Bea, Charlie, Halfwit, Marcus, Rodrigo, Siavash, imo. How's this a punishment for Siavash or Marcus again? Maybe they will feel bad if nice Hira goes over "evil" Lisa??? eta: DS are already talking about the need to save Hira, so maybe there'll be a surprise after all, if people vote to save the weak ones and forget to vote for the stronger ones.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 10:26 am
Marcus and Bea got the most nominations, but of course they are null and void. Marcus had hinted to everyone that he wanted to go home, so I don't know if that's why he's up, or whether they really wanted him gone. I wonder if Bea will be on the warpath over being nominated. And why didn't they nominate Lisa?!
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 10:41 am
Hira's a real trooper. She has to find a key buried in a huge cake by eating her way to it. She's been eating for TWO HOURS and still hasn't got to the key. I'm hoping they'll show this and it'll get her a few votes. http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/video/6879aa166ee90df59bf855484ce0f586/play.c4
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 12:40 pm
Poor little thing. She still isn't too bright. She should have started at the edge instead of sticking her face in the frosting. From the things I've read, Marcus was nominated by the housemates along with Bea. Will people be confused by it being a vote to save? From what I've seen, David is working the same plan as Bea, but doing a better job of it and gaining sympathy because he seems such a simpleton and she seems so clever. That whole buttergate was Bea just asking him if it was his butter. He made the big deal about it. His fake crying over being called a bully just set me over the edge and back on Bea's side even if she is looney tunes.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 1:35 pm
Did Bea mean it when she said the Queen's husband is dead now, that's why we haven't got a king?! And Freddie's trying to apologise, does she have to go on and on about how horrible he is? Let him say his piece! I'm not sure about David. I sympathised with him over buttergate, Bea had been giving him the cold shoulder and he didn't seem to want to play word games when he knew he'd be beaten. I don't think there's much point arguing with Bea, you'd just give her more ammunition. My dislike for her is overshadowing my enjoyment of her cleverness, so I might be a little clouded in my judgement! I don't think they know that it's a vote to save, and if Hira does go, they're going to be very confused, plus she's going to feel awful walking out the door, thinking she's hated or something. I still feel that Siavash got his way, as he wanted the viewers to decide. The only way it'll turn out not good for him is if Hira leaves and he feels very guilty - but as they don't know it's a vote to save he'll just assume she was up to something. I just don't get how this is punishment for him, BB could have done better!!
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 1:44 pm
Who nominated whom? Bea: David (pain in backside, interrupts, not as stupid as he wants people to believe), Lisa (not genuine, tough and selfish centre) Charlie: Siavash, Halfwit (no reasons shown) David: Marcus, Bea (no reasons shown) Dogface: Marcus, Halfwit (no reasons shown) Halfwit: Lisa (negative influence on house, moans, gets bored, regrouping gang), David (goes along with Lisa, thinks he's safe there, fake) Hira: Bea, Marcus (no reasons shown) Lisa: Bea, Marcus (no reasons shown) Marcus: Sophie/Dogface (didn't do his washing up after a swap), David (not displayed nice behaviour, said he was selfish, takes double portions) Rodrigo: Marcus, Bea (no reasons shown) Siavash did not nominate, or rather nominated himself twice. Note that Lisa, David, Rodrigo and Hira all nominated Bea and Marcus, and Sophie half toed the party line and nominated Marcus and Halfwit. ~~ Marcus 5 Bea 4 ~~ David 3 Halfwit, Lisa 2 Dogface, Siavash 1 Charlie, Hira, Rodrigo 0
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 2:31 pm
When Bea said that the King is dead and that's why there is no King, my first thought is that she's caught on to the fakeness of Rodrigo. After all, he had been a student in UK. Then he moved there permanently in January. Of course he knows that there is a Queen and her Prince. He might not understand why that is so, but he has to know it. Bea was trying to get Rodrigo to admit he isn't as ignorant as he is pretending to be. Of course she is just too heavy handed and it doesn't work. It just makes her look stupid. I did notice that Lisa is getting her little ducklings back in a row and leading them to the dark side. It's really too bad that Hira has joined them. It's hard to understand why people who were on the outside and saw what Lisa did and what happened to her followers jumped on her bandwagon. She might be overboard nice to them. OR things happen during the day that we don't get to see. It's a puzzle. If there has to be a witch in the house, I'd rather it be Bea than Lisa. At least she's funny and articulate in her nastiness. The other option might be to get rid of the women and have an all male final. Has that ever happened? I hate to say it, but the men in the house might get along much better if the women were gone. Even Sophie is a little witch in training. She made sure that everyone knew that Marcus was trying to influence the nominations.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 4:47 pm
I wasn't sure, Bea smiled, but she seemed serious at the same time. After her moon comment I have some doubt! I can't help but like Rodrigo still. He really has a big complex about looking bad and is willing to blatantly get others in trouble just to make himself look better (just like Noirin!) but I just can't help but fall for him again when he's so excited about something. I'm feeling that sort of thing about a lot of them, Marcus (so disrespectful but then so sensible), Siavash (such a good guy in general but so, well, pathetic at times), Freddie (full of joy but so randy), Sophie (so sweet and then she joins in Lisa's lies). It's got to the point where I don't really fully like any of them. I guess if any I'm still Freddie to win.
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Harlequin
Member
07-11-2008
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 4:58 pm
Ugh, I want Halfwit or Marcus to go, actually. I hate the way they're being cocky right now, particularly Halfwit. In a shocking turn of events, I'm happy Lisa's regrouping with the others. If it means they can get the Halfwit/Marcus/Bea/Siavash crew nominated, I'd be fine. Those four are so not even enjoyable for me anymore. I've found that I enjoy a balance. I like people with gameplans, but they don't do it all the time and end up having some funny moments. Sophie had a bit of a strategy this week, but she's also been entertaining for me to watch. I have to say that I feel the same way for Charlie, and he's risen on my list of people I enjoy. I guess so long as those two are safe then I'll be fine. But Marcus and Halfwit laughing would even get under my skin if I was in the house. I agree with Kitt- BB dropped the ball on punishing Marcus and Siavash. They shouldn't even be up, in my eyes. (Or maybe just Siavash; Marcus wants to win so he can gloat.)
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 5:06 pm
Harlequin, don't turn to the dark side!! It's sad when we get so far into the season and there's no one we can really get behind. Kind of makes the whole thing less fun.
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Harlequin
Member
07-11-2008
| Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 6:31 pm
Oh it isn't like Lisa's going to win the thing anyways. If it means the others I do like make it closer to finale night, I'll take it. I have to agree though. I was rooting for Rachel through most of last season, especially towards the end. Now it's almost like watching how things play out instead of really rooting for anyone, which is kind of depressing.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 9:27 am
Quick stuff from this morning... Hira took FIVE hours to find that key! She must have eaten half her body weight to get to it! BIG ROW between Marcus and David, apparently. They were separated by Big Brother, although made up afterwards. And Lisa, helped by Rodrigo and Charlie, gave Freddie a hard time about laughing during the nomination announcement.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 3:13 pm
Hira's a star!! She might be perhaps a little less than bright but she tries so hard! I can't imagine any other housemate in any other year eating a cake for five hours (admittedly that might be because they would realise they could mush it up with their face!) and at the end of it not being upset or angry or moaning about what she's been through. I'm giving a lot of people the benefit of the doubt today, that the house is just getting to them and they're not acting like themselves. Ok, it's mostly Freddie I'm giving that benefit of the doubt to. Actually I'm beginning to wonder a bit about whether he's actually having some sort of mental reaction to the house over the last week or so. He's beginning to get more and more... odd. And he started off pretty odd in the first place. I have a feeling some might have voted for Lisa because of that Freddie incident, and some might have voted for Freddie. I hope people have voted for Hira because of the cake... does that mean David or maybe Rodrigo could be near the bottom? I don't really have a feel for how it's going to go this week.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 3:20 pm
After watching Rodrigo this afternoon, I absolutely cannot stand him. Even drama queen Charlie didn't get that upset at being nominated. I do not for a minute believe that Rodrigo's anger is because they don't respect Big Brother. His nose is out of joint because he doesn't want to be up for eviction. Lisa too. She has slipped by. Never up. When the group being up saved her from being up, it was fine. Now that the group being up puts her in danger, she's angry. I appreciate that Freddie, Marcus and Siavash think it's funny because it is part of the experience and they tend to go with the flow.... well except when it comes to women. AND... new respect for Hira. For a little thing like her to consume that much sugar, she must have been feeling quite sick, but she just soldiered on. Still a ding-a-ling, waiting for BB to tell her to stop fanning. She was told to fan until she got to the end of the hall. Has a little trouble with directions, but really worked hard at her task.
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