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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 8:48 am
I agree Naja and I cant imagine under what circumstances Jade wouldnt be evicted by a majority of people. Tomorrow night's show should be interesting. Dont the public vote for who is evicted? they haven't announced the nominees yet so do they tell the HGs who has been nominated? I know they are not allowed to discuss nominations but wondering if they know.
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Kellee
Member
07-07-2004
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 9:14 am
Actually it shows on their site that they are nominated but there are no numbers yet posted to call. I hope she goes with a higher percentage than Sezer did this summer so it can be said she went as the most hated house guest ever.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 9:24 am
This from the BBC regarding the pulling of the sponsorship: But Channel 4 chief executive Andy Duncan said at a press conference it would not be pulling the series. "We cannot with certainty say that the comments directed at Shilpa have been racially motivated," he said. "This morning we have clarified with Shilpa, and unequivocally, she does not believe the treatment she has received is racially motivated. "She thinks it is socially and culturally motivated," he added. He said "it is unquestionably a good thing that the programme has raised these issues and provoked such a debate. These attitudes, however distasteful, do persist - we need to confront that truth." Goody joined the house with her mother and boyfriend Jack Tweed Mr Duncan said they were constantly monitoring the show and that contestants Danielle Lloyd and Jade Goody had been spoken to in the Big Brother diary room about how their comments might be perceived. A record 30,000 complaints have been made over alleged racist remarks towards Shetty. Three of Shetty's fellow housemates have been accused of racist behaviour, with Goody, 25, receiving the brunt of public criticism. link
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 9:45 am
For those of you who saw the regular season this year .... is the treatment Shilpa is getting worse than how they treated Shabazz? (I realize he brought a lot of it on himself but still...)
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 9:47 am
you have to read Danielle's family and friends statement, particularly how they dissect and explain away all her comments, it is unbelievable. They are all clueless. link
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Bourque77
Member
05-02-2006
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 10:11 am
here is Shilpa herself commenting on Jade re: racism: http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds11677.html
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Bourque77
Member
05-02-2006
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 10:17 am
I believe Shilpa's treatment is far worse than Shabazz. I never physically cringed or had to mute the Shabazz segments. I find myself unable/unwilling to listen to some of this. not because I'm delicate, but because the negative vibe it gives me ... without the recourse of being able to express myself in the situation ... sticking up for the victim of bullying ... leaves me with too much negative energy. although ... to her credit Shilpa is amazingly strong in her own right, and gives the impression she'll be fine even without a champion. and except for Jermaine I haven't seen anyone give a defense face to face in the moment. plenty of support for her behind the scene or after the fact, but there are some spineless people in that house who do not seem to have the character impairment of J/J/J/D, yet remain silent.
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 10:27 am
LOL! And speaking of Jermaine, how funny is it that the ONE time I turn on the show, he's wearing a military-ispired coat! Ha ha! I bet his family is LOVING that trend!
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 10:30 am
I had to mute the Shabazz segments ........ because of Shabazz!
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 10:36 am
I dont think the show is going to Last. Jack straw is insisting that the regulators do something. The culture secretary is accusing C4 and Big brother as presenting racism as entertainment. The sponsors have pulled out. I wonder if the reason there are no numbers posted for the eviction is that the show wont make it till Friday. Since they have already spoken to Jade and Danielle in the diary room and also to Shilpa I think they are working on ow to end the show and keep the contestants safe and also provide counselling to all of them. I suspect that Jade and Danielle are going to find that their careers have been killed because of this and bear in mind they are clueless about it. Also from what I am reading Big Brother has been hinting to them how their comments are being perceived. I also think that the statement by Danielle's family was prepared by some outside PR firm. They have already had three contestants walk so they already had a dilemma about how to work out the extra time with no contestants and now the regulators are threatening to step in. Parliament is also making noises about pullng c4's license over this.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 11:19 am
The Criminal Invstigation begins: Shilpa abuse a 'racial incident' Vikram Dodd Thursday January 18, 2007 MediaGuardian.co.uk Police have formally recorded the abuse Shilpa Shetty has suffered at the hands of three white Big Brother housemates as a racial incident, MediaGuardian.co.uk can reveal. The development adds to the pressure Channel 4 faces over the row and further undermines the broadcaster's defence of the onscreen antics that have caused outrage in Britain and India. The Big Brother home in Elstree is covered by Hertfordshire police which this morning began a criminal investigation after receiving more than 30 complaints from the public about the alleged racial abuse suffered by the Indian actress. The definition of a racist incident is drawn deliberately wide and the abuse can be classed as a hate crime even if a third party reports it. However, Ms Shetty's onscreen allegation broadcast on Wednesday's programme that the abuse she was suffering was racially motivated, added to the pressure for police to act. Legal experts say the three white contestants and Channel 4 could have committed offences under the 1986 Public Order Act. In a statement police said: "Hertfordshire Constabulary is investigating allegations of racist behaviour in the Big Brother house and will be conducting enquiries, including a review of the tapes. "We will continue to liaise with Ofcom and with Endemol, whom we have strongly encouraged to ensure that any form of behaviour that could raise similar concerns, does not occur. "We will continue to closely monitor the situation over the next few days. "Hertfordshire Constabulary will not tolerate racism in any form and is taking these allegations seriously. "The constabulary has experience of investigating and resolving incidents in the Big Brother house in past seasons ,1993590,00.html,link
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 11:28 am
read ken Russel's article about the racism in the house: On Shilpa and the racist peril in the BB house By Ken Russell link
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 12:35 pm
I am wondering if Carole is at this time regretting that glowing article she wrote about Jade the other day.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 1:22 pm
aww crap, now I am reading in the forums that both Jade and Shilpa have been told about how this is being perceived in the outside world, and now Jade has made up with Shilpa for the cameras. I can't wait to see this for real. It probably will look like the most phony apology ever to us. It has to be since she is doing it just to save her own skin from the public.
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Justin42
Member
08-05-2001
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 1:43 pm
I am so torn about this whole situation. It obviously sucks, but at the same time feels so similar to the way Janelle was treated by Maggie/Yvette/April at the end of BB6. (I love how the BBUK forums are starting to call Jade's group 'the coven'). It seems like it happens in EVERY BB-- someone in the house is all but crucified for being different. In US BB3, it was Gerry because he was old. In BB6 it was Janelle. This season, Shilpa comes in as an incredibly successful, beautiful, intelligent, well-spoken, confident woman. While obviously having an upper-class background, she seems to try to be friendly. I love how someone who can't pronounce easy English words complains about Shilpa's accent. Basically, Shilpa is everything Jade is not. Jade is a celebrity only for being on reality TV. She has no real talents or skills that we know of, doesn't appear to have had a lot of education. She's had a hard life but that doesn't excuse a total lack of manners. The others aren't much better; Jo's career appears to be long over (by her own admission), and Danielle is basically only known for taking her clothes off. I really think this is jealousy, more than anything. Jade is immensely threatened by Shilpa. The others probably feel it to some extent. Shilpa has a level of success that none of them could imagine, and resent that she has it and they don't. This isn't to say that Jade, et al, are or are not racist. It could very well come from that as well. But I think assuming it MUST be racist, because Jade is white and Shilpa isn't, is possibly just adding fuel to the fire. The fact that the others (except for Jermaine) aren't jumping in to stand up to Jade is unforgivable, though. Ian seems very uncomfortable with confrontation, but I can't imagine Cleo not being strong enough to tell Jade to shut up at times. That said, I hope that Jade just gets kicked out (by means of an eviction) and the show gets back on track. This IS Big Brother. It sucks for Shilpa to be the target, but the point of the show is to see what happens when people are stuck together with no outlet and nowhere to hide. In a Celebrity edition, I think this series has managed to hit its peak in terms of a psychological study-- these people are much less aware of the cameras than the US contestants seem to be, and true colours have come out. They aren't always pretty, but to cancel the show is simply to deny human nature and sweep it under the rug like it doesn't exist. People aren't always pretty. (and I am really torn about the HGs being told about the scandals... it seems like Jade/Shilpa would've been nominated no matter what and it would've played out the way it should have)
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Bourque77
Member
05-02-2006
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 2:07 pm
Justin! when I read the UK messages board and see some info from Reverse Ferret I think of you ... and wonder if there is a BB Insider Secret Handshake ...?
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 2:48 pm
apparently on tonights show we will see the diary room where they spoke with Jade. Even if Jade apologizes it is too late for her, her perfume line has been cancelled, she has been taken off that other site, nobody will even hire her to sell cat food.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 2:59 pm
I keep watching the official forum and something strange is brewing. Earlier today Jade and Shilpa had "nominated" on their photos at the official site, and now the labels are gone. And usually by now the voting lines have been opened, and no sign of them opening yet. They are also saying Jade has been in the diary room for the last hour or so and they wonder what is going on.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 3:15 pm
I am betting they are goingto sneak her out of there. This is much bigger than Big Brother and Endemol. C4 is in danger of having their license revoked or at least having the discussion come up in parliament, and now you have a criminal investigation on top of a govt inquiry -- they are going to have to cut her loose and I fear cut the show loose. There is no way they can have a regular eviction tomorrow if they havent even posted the numbers yet. They may also have to tell Jade that her perfume contract has been cancelled since I am sure the company probably had to write up legal documents to notify her they were pulling the product. In a way this reminds me of the Nicole meltdown on BB2 after the banners were flown, BB had to get shrinks in to talk to her and also allow her to talk to the husband because it was in danger of exploding. I am sure endemol's lawyers have also advised them that with HGs contracts being pulled and the public anger against the three women in particular, there may be some liability if they dont try to protect them or warn them of what was going on outside. Just thinking.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 4:06 pm
Looks like everything is back to normal now and voting has started. I'm a little put off at Cleo nominating both Jade and Shilpa. There is something so strange about her starting to show through and it's hard for me to describe it.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 4:42 pm
Now I see people up in arms about Jade calling Shilpa "Shilpa Poppadum". I had no idea what it meant until I looked it up and it's an Indian bread. I thought so what? Until I went and looked at it's slang use. Be sure to click the word highlighted next to poppadum, too. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poppadum
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Finqwik
Member
09-23-2000
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 5:15 pm
Boy I get home from work and so much has been posted. Anyway Marris said (ages back) "Dont you think that by listening to Jade and saying nothing that Cleo is encouraging her. Jade needs the audience and Cleo could put a stop to this very quickly. I am disappointed in her" I have to agree with you, I'm disappointed with her too. I really hope she will get off the fence and stand up to those bullies soon. The longer she continues to interact with Jade, Jo and Danielle the more guilty by association she appears to be. Jermaine, and Dirk whilst not actively telling the bullies to stop are also not fueling the fire by giving audience to it. Cleo needs to speak up or stay away from them I guess. Yeah I am disappointed I expected better from her.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 5:20 pm
Wow, I knew Cleo chose to nominate both Jade and Shilpa, but Shilpa was her first choice! (just now watching the daily show)
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 5:25 pm
Hi everyone! I've been watching some clips and reading about the kerfuffle with Jade and Shilpa. The similarities to BB US! My first impression is that Shilpa is the "Janelle" and Jade is "Ivette" and that one with the red hair that I think is Cleo reminds me of Erika! I never watched BB UK before - are the tweeting birds like our flames? I'm really liking the production of the UK version better than the US. So cool to be able to watch clips of this!
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 5:47 pm
Hi Rosem, it's fun stuff, isn't it? Yes, the birds are the same as flames. You're pretty close on your comparisons Except that Janelle could get down and dirty and fight back with the best of them. Shilpa isn't very good with arguing and has a lot of self control and manners. I think so far she has only had one good cutting comeback and Jade didn't even understand it...LOL
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