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Care28
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05-01-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Care28 a private message Print Post    
Thanks for clearing that up Stormie about the swap, I read the article on DS before I went afk for a while, evidently they didn't have all the information either when I posted about it. My mistake.

As for Liam....I think it's perfectly fine that he doesn't want a relationship in the house, and I don't think his decision had anything to do with Chiggy. I just feel sometimes that Liam's put on a bit of a pedestal, that's all. I wasn't comparing him to Ziggy in the way of his relationship with Chanelle, I just think that he says one thing and then does another, in the way that Ziggy has/does.

Care28
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05-01-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Care28 a private message Print Post    
Carole really can't stand Amy and I don't get why. She got on about her really bad earlier today with Shanessa (in which Shanessa agreed with her on everything). I can't understand why these people can't SEE what a nasty piece of work Carole is, I don't get it!

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
I thought that Gerry saw it too, but I'm not sure now. Amy has even said that Shanessa deserves to be there, but hey, so does she as Liam pointed out. Well, Liam said today that he hadn't been badmouthing anyone really at the main house, but then when he went to the HWH, his badmouthing people went into overdrive. He seems nice though, not as many people are still thinking badly about him today. And as a side note, Carole today said something to the effect of she wasn't there for Chanelle when Chanelle needed her, but she (Carole) couldn't deal with her any longer---whattttttt?????? OMG, she never quits talking about Chanelle; jealous much of a 19-year-old kid?

Here's some interviews with Chanelle. Good for her in saying she will not do any further shows with Charley. Charley on BBLB again, uggghhhh, go away Charley.

Click for Chanelle Diary Part 1

Click for Chanelle Diary Part 2

Click for Chanelle Exclusive Interview w/ch4

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 5:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Carole doesn't like Amy because she is afraid that Amy knows that Liam is popular outside the house and also has the money. She doesn't trust Amy's motives in going after Liam. Any mother would feel the same. I don't understand why people don't like Carole. She's older, has less patience with all the children and had trouble dealing with Chanelle's temper, self centeredness and demanding nature. BTW, Chanelle was like that before Ziggy even came into the house. Also, I do not get why the public likes Brian. What is it they like? I honestly do not understand. The twins are cute, so that I can understand, but don't agree with because they aren't playing the game, they are on a summer vacation. But I can see why some like them for being cute. But what is there to like about Brian?

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Brian is a genuinely sweet guy. He has a naievete about him and he is always willing to give people the benefit of the doubt. One of the most telling clips I saw about Brian's character was in the diary room when Big Brother was telling Brian that Big Brother was depressed over its birthday. Brian genuinely wanted to make Big Brother feel better, think about it. He just went right into being empathetic, not even considering that Big Brother is a tv show it isnt a person.

He and the twins are who they appear to be. Nobody else is like that. Carole is diabolical to me. She picks away at people and makes insinuations about people i.e. Chanelle and Liam, she causes friction and she is way more selfish than Chanelle is. Lets face it she is living off the govt, no job, public housing and a very nice house it is too. What exactly makes Carole a stand up kind of person?

Flagg
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06-01-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 5:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flagg a private message Print Post    
Watch the latest several "On the Couch" episodes for some good examples of why people like Brian. Brian's probably my favorite , and mostly from the On the Couch segments all season.

Care28
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05-01-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 5:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Care28 a private message Print Post    
Chanelle wasn't in the house long enough without Ziggy to really gauge what she was like with or without him. I'm sorry, but, Chanelle having tantrums is no different than Carole's strops every time someone does something she doesn't like, Charley's fights with every last person that dare disagree with her or call her on her attitude, Nicky's controlling nature over EVERY LAST THING TO DO WITH FOOD, Tracey's silly catchphrases and her constant attitude about "dealing with it", and on and on. I've seen women even older than Chanelle have complete meltdowns like that, I think it's what she's dealt with in her life, how she was raised (and probably coddled) because of it. That's why her mom saying in an article, "I don't get how she's acting" (paraphrasing) doesn't wash with me. It's either an act she's putting on for the program (in which Charley did at times as well) or her mother knows exactly why she behaves as she does.

Carole is a very judgemental, non-forgiving person. I see it in just about every relationship she has in that house, apart from her favorites. She sits and gets mad at Chanelle for not opening up to her. Would YOU want to open up to someone that has basically made you feel as if they hate you? I certainly wouldnt, I wouldn't want that woman to know much about me or my life at all.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 5:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
This is not Carole's house, they are not Carole's children. They are all adults on a tv show and Carole is one of them. Carole has tried to set herself up as this great housekeeper/cook/mother, but in reality she is a bossy person who wants to control every aspect of these adults, who are virtual strangers to her. Carole targeted Chanelle, would go to Ziggy and put lies in his head about Chanelle flirting with, well, everyone, none true, and he would run with it. She dislikes Chanelle immensely. When the HMs were initially voting in the HMHMs they were tasked to say who they wanted in, but Carole added that she didn't want Amy in bc she just did not like her. Carole is now making things up that Amy has been flirting with first Ziggy, then Liam, clearly Amy fancies Liam, but they are both adults and it's not Carole's business. Carole also doesn't like the twins, bosses them around and makes them eat her food, even though it makes them ill. Carole is 53, not 83, and perhaps has gotten away with this stuff bc the other HMs have respect for her age, though it looks like some are getting fed up with her meddling and conniving ways; yes it is a game, but if anyone wants to get to the final 4, they need to recognize that Carole is playing as well. At this writing Carole keeps badmouthing Amy, now to Jonty who has been able to get to know Amy, and fortunately he's not having it. Carole needs to go.

I've never met Chanelle, but however she was outside of the house, it was exacerbated inside, as is usually the case with people who go on this type of show. She's a lovely young woman and seems quite happy to be out of the house and back to her life. She did nothing wrong. Ziggy on the other hand said he cared for her, then 2 or so hours later each week said she depressed him, or she was manipulating him (via Carole) and on and on. Chanelle had had enough, she did the right thing.

I'd love to see the public vote either Ziggy or Carole next, Carole being my initial wish vote. And Brian is a lovely sweet young man, who has some immaturity to him that is quite endearing, but also smart enough to question the things that Carole has been saying. He's really quite nice.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
I guess we are looking at them from different perspectives. Carole seems honest and straightforward. Chanelle seemed manipulative. I think the way the express themselves in their likes and dislikes is the difference to me.

I still don't get the Brian thing. So there are three teenagers taking a summer holiday on a television show. The girls are cute and detached, Brian is sweet, and not too bright, but people think they played the best game? I still just do not get it. I'd rather Liam, Gerry or Tracy win if Carole can't. And she is so disliked by the public that I don't think she will last much longer.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
It's not that they are viewed as having played the best game, it's bc they are really sweet people; a lot of times in these games popularity comes bc someone is genuine, not necessarily bc they can outwit someone else. The best game player might just be Carole, she's still there, but is immensely irritating for me to watch. And I didn't appreciate what she did to Chanelle, she never did anything like that to Charley, who was just plain cruel to everyone.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
The thing is, they arent playing the game. That is what is appealing, they are who they are.

To me, Gerry is a phoney and pretentious, Liam I am not so sure about Liam. Tracy, doesnt really interact that much with the house. Carole is just Nasty, Ziggy is self involved.

Flagg
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06-01-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flagg a private message Print Post    
Carole "honest and straightforward"?! Wow we must be watching different shows. If it's just the daily shows then they are skewing it a lot in her favor. Carole is ALWAYS sniping about somebody behind their back.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
That's what separates the UK BB from the US one, the unpretentiousness of most of the UK housemates. Even Shabnan who was showing off all the time was still being herself, she just is a show-off. They're not trying to be someone else. Mostly (maybe Ziggy hmmmm...).

I don't agree about Gerry though, I don't think he's being phoney, it's just that he is one of those arty types who muse over everything.

It's a shame Chanelle didn't come back to BBLB, but perhaps it's a wise decision. Charley is so deluded and it must be hard to contradict her in any way without making yourself look bad.

Today's task and swapping out the HWHMs again seemed a bit silly. It's as if the ones who were originally chosen to stay are the ones who are now at risk to go. With that many swaps it's all pretty random and they might just as well have drawn straws. Again I'm thinking the audience isn't going to be as motivated to vote for a stranger as for a newcomer, so the original (now Tracey it seems) is more at risk. If a newcomer goes, the exit interviews are hardly going to be exciting, I don't really care about them.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
YT of Ziggy calling Chanelle Sarah and then claiming he didn't say it. Dude, do you realize you're on tv? Say that again Ziggy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVhpX50bz1k

OT: I've been following BB8US bc, like someone else, I've watched BBUS since S1, but I won't get much into it until after BB8UK--loving it!!! However, I must say, Nick for crimenies sake, what's with the mohawk? Also, I'm starting to like Jen :-)

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
It is hard to get into with all the drama in UK. I started out liking Evel Dick and disliking Jen. That's switched now. She really retains her composure when he's yelling at her. The whole time Charley was ranting I'd be thinking they need to just stand there and smile. She wouldn't know what to do. I'd love to see Charley trying to go after Jen.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Someone called this Liggy, lol, look how cute :-)

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8857/zigliam1mm2.jpg

I didn't want to post the whole conv here, but go to the following and read Tipi's post of Zig chatting with the men about Chanelle. Think he's sucking up to Chanelle's fans, as he "jokingly" said while in the HWH? Or does he have it bad? I say sucking up, lol, his image is very important to him.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=633115&page=15

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 9:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Oops, wrong page. I think it's interesting, so I'll post it here.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=633115&page=16

Tipi Aug 2, 2007 108am UK time
Ger - chanelle will never speak against you
Z - its not good she left the show, and i was part of it
G - she wont speak against you
Z - I went up to her 3 times and she wouldnt talk to me
B - she was talking about leaving that night.....
G - it was about the whole Liam thing...
G - it was stupid
Z - i felt uncomfortable about it...
B - all she talked about was you
G - she was in love with you
Z - it just got too, too many poeple involved......
I wish she was here now, i wish she was right here so I could explain to her......and say lets carry on
that day She did talk to me a way i didnt appreciate.....
B - she needed attention
Z - she need full time attention and i wasnt coping so i couldnt give it to her...so she would go to others which is maybe where the flirting thing came from
I hope she is ok....i really do
Liam - I wonder has she contacted.....
Z - i wonder if she would have phoned mine (parents)
She was a great girl, she just has a big temper
Maybe i expected more than she could give....
Ger - she said you were a40 year old in a 26 old body..and i'm only 19
Z - thats nice...actually Im not cool with the 40 year old...laughs


Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 9:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I noticed the "Sarah" and the denial too. On BBLB that first day Chanelle was on Dermot told her it was his ex's name and she seemed to take it reasonably well, just said something like "that's even worse".

I think Ziggy's not sucking up to her fans, but simply still trying to make sure his image is as a good guy, not whatever guy he feels Chanelle will have painted him as by now. And I think he's thinking with his other brain. In one of the recent shows he's telling someone (Liam?) how incompatible he and Chanelle are and how he just had to end it, then he said something like "and then she walked in in that dress". I think his hormones are just out of control and any missing of Chanelle comes from that.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 11:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Yes, he was kind of joking about that with Liam, but even if his hormones are all "confused," he's 26 years old, not a child and at this point if he can't get it together, then what hope is there for him. He knew going on this show that he was going to seek someone out, he even said something to that effect to Gerry and Seany when they first came in, that his brother and he had planned for him to go between two women, back and forth, but then he told Gerry and Seany he couldn't do that, bc these women talk to one another. Then when Liam went in, Ziggy told some of the others he was a bit jealous, bc he wanted to be able to be free and do what he wanted to do with everyone like Liam did. Not only does Ziggy not seem to know what he wants, but he really doesn't seem to know women at all, and the image he has of himself of, dare I say, a Casanova type, has clearly been laid to rest, seemingly even within his own mind. And now, I agree, he seems to be trying to make himself look like the good guy again, but I question the validity of his still wanting to be with Chanelle.

OMG, tonight about 2am their time, Carole asked Brian if Ziggy had gone in the double bed, Brian said yes, then Carole retorted that she had told Ziggy he could go in with her. RUN ZIGGY RUN, lol. So when's that rude awakening happening again?

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 1:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Yesterday's highlights show of Tuesday, Day 63 is up; this one has 6 parts.

Big Brother 8 UK Highlights Show August 1 Part 1 (HL of Tuesday Day 63)

Wednesday, Day 64, the big switch. Ziggy, Liam, Jonty and Amy go to the main house, and Shanessa, Kara-Louise, David and selected to go HM Tracey move into the HWH.

Article: Return to Paradise

Article: Not Half Bad





Stormie
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03-01-2007

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Yesterday's Big Brother's Big Mouth is up, this one has 3 parts.

Big Brother 8 UK Big Mouth August 1 Part 1

Click for Article: Charley Ignored Chanelle on Big Mouth

Click for Article: Jonty's Fan Club

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 10:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I don't think Ziggy's hormones are confused at all, they know exactly what they want! I hadn't heard about the two women at a time thing. What a fool! And yet he's so concerned about his image - maybe he thought Cassanova was likeable but Romeo less so?

Another thing I wonder about - BB put him in the house as the only male with all those women, and then added two gay men. They clearly had expectations of him. I wonder what they actually wanted him to do.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Liam is so funny with Amy. On BBBM they show the scene and voiceover what they're really thinking - so accurate, particularly the "sorry mum"!

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 1:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
LOL, yes I know what you mean, but I was thinking more on the lines of he is a grown man and acting as a teenager would, and went to his "mum" for advice, rather than realize the ramifications of his incessant vacillating, or that Chanelle has feelings too. I know, lol, Liam and Amy are cute together and Liam's witty side really comes out, although some people might view his humor as mean, I think he's funny. I'm glad though, that Liam realizes that Amy, even though she is nice, may also have an agenda, since she was able to watch the show, saw him win the money, and wants to be in the spotlight; since he doesn't know her that well, it's good that he is aware. Double eviction Friday, I hope Tracey is saved.

Click for Article: Double Eviction



Stormie
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03-01-2007

Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Today's BBLB is up, there are 3 parts. From what I've read, Carole is built up on this show, which bites. She's still on about Amy today, and also Chanelle; I guess it's hard to see her true self when you are in it, as opposed to watching it, but still, for Ziggy, he chose Carole over Chanelle week by week, even though Chanelle tried to tell him about Carole, he chose not to listen. I wish she's just GET OUT CAROLE!!!!!

Big Brother 8 UK Little Brother August 2 Part 1