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Care28
Member
05-01-2005
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 7:03 am
I look for Chanelle to stay, BUT, if Charley doesn't go come Friday I look for her to make a serious decision about leaving. I really can't say that I blame her, at all. Ziggy has done most of the "on again/off again" crap (which you're right, that is NONE of her business) and Chanelle's been naive enough to put up with all of it. Carole blames Chanelle for all of it because she's wanted to believe that Ziggy's a "good guy" because she lusts after him so. Speaking of Zig-Zag, did you read the article on digi spy up today? Seems Carole has "washed her hands" of Chanelle and has told Ziggy that she wants nothing more to do with her & her tantrums. Ziggy did not ONCE defend her from what I read, and even went as far to say she was "very, very wrong" and "I care for her, but last night I saw something I didn't like". Okay, Ziggy can now officially leave. I am SO over it. I realize part of the reason Carole gets this way over Chanelle is BECAUSE of the griping Ziggy has done about her and the fact that he DOES NOT STICK UP FOR HER. It's PATHETIC. Here's the little article: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother8/a67676/carole-washes-her-hands-of-chanelle.html
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 7:08 am
Carole is also beginning to target the twins. She is diabolical. one by one she is going to target anyone she thinks can win this game.
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Care28
Member
05-01-2005
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 8:49 am
And in her continuing tirade against Chanelle, Carole has told Gerry that she feels Brian should have won the talent contest last night, not Chanelle. He put his all into it and she feels that he deserved it far more than Chanelle did. While I can't agree or disagree with Carole because I didn't see either performance yet, I do believe she needs to grow up.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 10:47 am
I've been away for a few days and didn't want to read the posts until I'd caught up. Wow what a few days! Very glad Charley is up, presumably she will go. I've had just completely enough of her. Ziggy and Chanelle. In a very selfish way I think the pair are fascinating together. He knows it's wrong but is in such a catch 22 situation whether he stays or goes. She's just stretched to her limits emotionally. And you know it's just not going to get any better. Carole has ... issues. You guys have said everything and more I've thought about her. Assuming new people don't come in, in terms of likeability the final four would have to be the twins, liam and Brian. Is the second house/hostel confirmed? It would be great to have Charley out before it happened. More tension for Ziggy and Chanelle as one or both of them would fancy or be accused of fancying a newcomer. But it'd be great for Brian to have someone new to talk to.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 11:18 am
True, Ziggy has not defended Chanelle to Carole, or anyone really. She really was on the edge and it's not about the task. Someone who really cares about her would stand up for her. Did he ever once tell Carole 'leave it out.' Yes, well, not a hostile, but BBLB yesterday announced 6 new HMs will be going in on Friday. They will be both men and women, and through tasks some of them will win the opportunity to be full fledged HMs vying for the win. Right now I like Brian and Liam for the win, and since Liam won money already, it would be fantastic if Brian won.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 11:47 am
Thanks, I'll watch bblb then. I'm not sure it's fair to have full-fledged new housemates this late in the game. It'd be an entirely different game for them than for the originals. But it will bring some new energy to the house. Yep, my favourite for the win is definitely Brian. I don't think a new person should win.
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Care28
Member
05-01-2005
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 11:50 am
Now, Carole has flat out told Chanelle she doesn't want a relationship with her after yesterday. I'd be like, Hallelujah! Stay away from me then! I can't believe this woman is the oldest one in the house.......she acts younger than the twins. She has told Chanelle that she tried to be her friend, but it was "beyond her" what happened yesterday. And interestingly enough, someone (I think Gerry or Liam....I'm pretty sure Liam) called Charley Carole's "pet" after Chanelle (I think) complained that Carole never got onto Charley about doing her share of the housework....and she's right. I haven't seen Charley lift much of a finger to do anything. Certainly explains why Carole has always been so off on Chanelle....it's a mix of her Ziggy lust and her Charley love.
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Care28
Member
05-01-2005
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 11:51 am
I agree Kitt, to me it's like them replacing Orlaith with Kinga after Orlaith walked. That was 2-3 weeks before the series ended if I'm remembering right....she even made it to the F4 (granted she was 4th, but still!).
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 12:00 pm
LOL at all the Spice Girls comments I have always thought they are fabulous Yeah, so what it's mainstream pop, it's just so much fun! I am losing my fan standing with completely with Carol. The side she picks when a fight happens always seems to be the side I think was wrong. I don't understand her at all lately.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 12:37 pm
Carole is playing to win and she will target anyone who she thinks she can lose against. First she will target the weakest which of course would be Chanelle. Chanelle is so insecure, or at least she is after her experience with Ziggy. With Charley gone this week, I am guessing she will get fights started between Gerry and whomever she can. Where Charley is overt in her nastiness towards people, Carole is much sneakier but just as mean. I think Carole sees herself as the Big Brother expert and she believes that she knows how to win this game. We will see how far it takes her.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 12:40 pm
It's hard not to think that an older woman and a mother shouldn't be more understanding of Chanelle. For an adult (I know they're all adults technically but..!) to say she doesn't want a relationship with someone who's clearly in pain, even if behaving badly seems so very wrong to me. I know she has no responsibility to Chanelle but it's still hard for me to believe she would do that. Like Naja, any support I had for Carole has recently disappeared. I think it's jealousy in a way, she's jealous that Chanelle didn't come to her for support earlier in the way that would make her (Carole) feel needed. And the Ziggy thing of course. Have to say - sometime in the last few episodes (saw them all in a row yesterday so don't know which) there was that task to make Carole and Charley news anchors. Did you hear Big Brother say "congratulations, you're a pair of anchors?" Had me giggling on and off all evening. Love Big Brother in dead pan mode.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 12:43 pm
You think Carole is that calculated Maris? I see her more as emotional, like it's all to do with her needs and what she didn't get from people. She feels slighted if they don't treat her how she wants to be treated and turns it around to hurt them, probably without even realising what she's doing.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 12:52 pm
I simply can't tell at this point if Carole's choices are calculating or just strange misguided judgement. Her diary rooms seem to point to strange misguided judgement, but who knows what is an act and what isn't in this show?
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 12:52 pm
I see her as totally calculating 100%. She is far shrewder than anyone in that house is giving her credit for. She has been applying for BB since BB1, hasnt missed a season/live feeds. She is playing 100% 24/7.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 12:59 pm
I can't wait to see who the universal villain will be once Charley is gone. I don't think it will be Gerry since his icky-ness times are mostly because of Charley. I think wet mop Ziggy may become the next target.
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Melissamm68
Member
07-07-2005
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 1:06 pm
I think you are right Maris. Carole slipped when she was upset with Chanelle for not telling her about what Chanelle's issues with the violin were and said something to the effect that she knew this was going to be spun and make her (Carole) look like a bad person. I think that is why she got so upset, because she knew that she (Carole) was not going to look good because of the things she said about Chanelle.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 1:10 pm
I think the characters in this show are much deeper than the US show.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 1:19 pm
btw, I finally got around to viewing Ziggy's "Norther Line" music videos on utube. I don't think I have ever seen a bigger poser...LOL Watching now he looks quite silly, but I'm not sure if back then it was considered cool..may have been. Here is one in case you missed it posted before. http://youtube.com/watch?v=K2an6PJOsDQ
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Melissamm68
Member
07-07-2005
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 1:25 pm
This is my first season watching the UK BB and I have to say that I am enthralled and addicted. The HGs they have chosen are definitely interesting characters and I am enjoying it so much. I have tried to get into the US BB this year but I am enjoying the UK version so much right now that I just can't get into the US one. It pales in comparison, in my opinion.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 1:33 pm
Here's some other shows from yesterday. The highlights show is Day 55, Monday, (today is Day 57), there are 5 parts; yesterday's BBBM and BBLB both have 3 parts. Big Brother 8 UK Highlights Show July 24 Part 1 (Day 55) Big Brother 8 UK Big Mouth July 24 Part 1 Big Brother 8 UK Little Brother July 24 Part 1
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 1:42 pm
Did you also notice when they had some task and they were supposed to dance and Ziggy asked if he should do it straight ot camp it up? Ziggy cant dance a step. The few times I have seen him moving to music, that guy has no rythm. He is also beginning to look ridiculous as his hair grows longer. Poor Ziggy, wait till he leaves the house and finds out that nobody but NOBODY thinks of him as a "boy band" type guy. He is in for a rude awakening. I think he got a glimmer at the results of the ask the audience, he was positively green when he saw that chanelle won top votes for everything he thought he should have won.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 1:52 pm
LOL Maris, I think the music video camera crew and editors had quite a challenge editing in Ziggy's moves to the videos. He seems a bit awkward for sure.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 2:08 pm
Naja, boy bands were all the rage in the late 90s, and they were pretty much all manufactured by the record company and looked as silly as that. I think that particular ditty was out in 2000 so they must have been on the tail end of the craze, maybe they were scraping the barrel! Interesting fact about UK boy bands (well, interesting to me ). They were mostly completely manufactured by record companies, and for the first six months/year marketed almost exclusively to gay clubs. Of course a bunch of beautiful young men making sexual moves while scantily clad goes down very well with young gay club-going men, so they build up a big following - six months later they produce their first record, because of the already established buzz the sales are high enough to get the record on the radio/tv and then the teenage girls see them and voila, instant boy band mania. It's clever. I hope they show all of the skits in tonight's show. I'd like to see Ziggy and also Chanelle's violin playing.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 3:29 pm
Here are a couple of clips of Chanelle and Carole's argument from early today. I'm not sure if this is the feeds or not, but I think so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5uMdzowaCc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oywjyb_dT64 Ziggy and Carole argued today, Ziggy and Charley argued as well. It's been a very loud week in the BB house. And today's BBLB (day 57) is up, yeahhhhh; there are 3 parts to it. Big Brother 8 UK Little Brother July 25 Part 1 (Day 57)
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 4:16 pm
The housemates found out today in the daily during their news broadcast task that there is still a prize for the winner even tho Liam got the cash prize already.
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