TVCH FORUMS HOME . JOIN . FAN CLUBS . DONATE . CONTACT . CHAT  
 Wikia  Quick Links   TOPICS . TREE-VIEW . SEARCH . HELP! . NEWS . PROFILE
Archive through July 30, 2007

The TVClubHouse: Big Brother UK 2007 ARCHIVES: Big Brother UK 2007 Archives: Big Brother UK - 2007 - Archives: Archive through July 30, 2007 users admin

Author Message
Stormie
Member

03-01-2007

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
What has Chanelle done though? She decided to leave, after being dumped again by Ziggy, who continues to gossip about her to others, and she told no one. BB announced for her to get her suitcase, that's when the other HMs found out she was leaving. She said her goodbyes, but when she was called back to the DR, BB sent her back to the house to get Betsy, which they could have sent to her later, but didn't. Then BB told her she'd have to wait to leave tomorrow, or perhaps after speaking to the psychologist she agreed to, but in any event, she gains nothing in all this, she is the one made out to look bad. It's ridiculous that Ziggy keeps messing with her head, he wants her, he doesn't, he wants her again, seemingly based on the lies Carole keeps telling him. So what has she done? She's young, naive and has until last night believed that he cared for her, she may be unsure now, but was willing to just leave to take care of herself. And when she was going to leave did anyone else hear him tell her to call his mother? What is up with this guy. I hope she changes her mind tomorrow.

Stormie
Member

03-01-2007

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 1:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Gerry: think he's happy Chanelle is staying?

Gerry in the garden July 29

And Zack?

Zack in the garden July 29

Stormie
Member

03-01-2007

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Right now there are 7 parts up for "Chanellegate." Stentonhouse homepage linked below for the 7 parts.

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=stentionhouse&p=r

Mamabatsy
Member

08-05-2005

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 2:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
No doubt Ziggy is a cad and has been trying to get her to break up with him so no one will notice his cadness. Her behavior when she doesn't get her own way is abominable. She is like a 2 year old who lost her lollypop. The way she acted about the whole violin business was ridiculous while her mother said she performed in public many times. Carole didn't handle it well, but she was right that Chanelle doesn't think about other people. Chanelle and Charley have the same personality trait, my way or else. I think BB will make sure she is one who doesn't get back in the house after the twist with the newcomers.

Stormie
Member

03-01-2007

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 2:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
I agree her behavior has been really bad, but the psychologist on On The Couch a few weeks ago said that she was regressing, which happens to some people in times of stress. It seems that at that time she had been doing that just in the diary room, but since the violin incident, it seems to have spilled out into the house; I've never read anything that Chanelle's mother had said she played in front of lots of people, but she actually had used it as a means to get through discovering the news that her birth mother had been killed when she was just 6 months old (or something like that). Her mother said in an article I read a few days ago, that that is very unlike her daughter and she was going to call the care people at BB to find out if she were really okay. I completely disagree that Chanelle is in any way like Charley, who was jealous of Chanelle very early on and targeted her daily to upset her--it was deliberate, and Chanelle only started to really defend herself against Charley a few days ago. For now, Chanelle seems to have decided to wait until Tuesday to make her final decision, they did this with Leslie as well, calling her back and forth to the DR to make sure she really wanted to leave, and she did in the end.

Click for article: Stay Another Day

Melissamm68
Member

07-07-2005

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 2:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Melissamm68 a private message Print Post    
Chanelle's outbursts have always been linked with either Charley pushing her buttons or Ziggy playing mind games. The voilin incident was I think linked to how she dealt with the loss of her mother or something like that.

I'm glad Chanelle is staying. I'm sick of the Ziggy and Chanelle thing though. I really wish she would have stayed in the house but stayed away from Ziggy.

I was just reading, and right now the HWHMs have been invited to dinner with the regular BB HMs and have been told to glam up. When Shanessa couldn't decide what to wear, she asked Kara and Amy, and they both told her to wear the pink outfit she wore when she came in. LOL!

Kitt
Member

09-06-2000

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 2:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
According to DS she's staying until TUESday. I wonder if they gave her a hint of the swapover thing with the new housemates, and persuaded her she could get Ziggy and Carole out of the house on Monday if she tried. They must have done something to persuade her to sleep on it for two nights not just one.

I can't blame Chanelle for wanting to leave. How many times did Jonathan and Ziggy decide to leave? Jonathan was just bored and Ziggy worried about his reputation. Chanelle has a ex/not-ex boyfriend who's messing with her mind and a woman old enough to be her mother who's essentially just telling lies about her out of jealousy. I know she's very immature but if anything now she's finally being strong and making decisions for herself. I feel bad for her.

Kitt
Member

09-06-2000

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 2:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Does anyone have a feel for how the new housemates have got on with the originals? Any guesses for who will be chosen to become housemates? I'm guessing David and either Kara or Amy - I haven't read much about their time in the house yet.

Melissamm68
Member

07-07-2005

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Melissamm68 a private message Print Post    
Kitt - I've been trying to figure that out too as far as who likes who from the HWHMs. I haven't got a clue though. I was really surprised when I read a lot of the HMs liked Jonty. I think he is extremely creepy.

Kitt
Member

09-06-2000

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 3:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I've just read through the last day of DS news and it seems all five newcomers were a hit in the their own way. I think some sort of psychologist was heavily involved in making the choices, if you look at them they all have bits that the current housemates would latch on to, like they were not picked for themselves, but for their similarities to the originals.

Jonty has all the "culture" stuff in common with Gerry, is eccentric like Carole, and has teddies like Chanelle and Gerry.

David seems a good match to Gerry and has a bit of Seany in him. His personality seems a lot like Liam.

Shanessa dresses like Charley as does the one who came in without her pants.

Now I'm trying to write down the similarities I can't put my finger on them, but that's what came into my head when I saw them - that they had been specifically picked not for their individual characters but as another psychological experiment on the main group.

Mamabatsy
Member

08-05-2005

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 4:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
"Her mother said in an article I read a few days ago, that that is very unlike her daughter and she was going to call the care people at BB to find out if she were really okay."

In that same article she said the reason she was so surprised at Chanelle's behavior is that she has played the violin in many recitals, or was it concerts... memory gone, but she did mention that she played in public.

Stormie
Member

03-01-2007

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Here's an official site article on tonight's "festivities" with the HWHMs. I'm not sure who gets along with whom, but I can see each current liking different HWHMs for various reasons. I've read though, that Amy said negative things about Jonty, but the twins (and I think Gerry) didn't see that and didn't know why she had done that, though Liam and she seem to be warming up to one another tonight. David seems to be a smash hit with just about everyone and I'm not sure about Kara-Louise and Shanessa, but they were there during some of what was going in with Chanelle, so I'm not sure who was able to get to know her. This will be very interesting tomorrow. I so hope that they get switched with Carole and Ziggy, though I'm wondering if it will be Chanelle and Sam.

Click for article: Dress For Dinner

Click for article: Getting To Know You

Amy visits the HMs
amy

Jonty visits the HMs
Jonty

Shanessa visits the HMs
shanessa

Kara-Louise visits the HMs
kara-louise

Tonight @ dinner Zach, Jonty, Gerry & David
david

Stormie
Member

03-01-2007

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 4:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Chanelle's mum concerned by behaviour
Day 59, 13:35 BST
By Alex Fletcher

Chanelle's adoptive mum has expressed concern at the erratic and uncharacteristic behaviour of the 19-year-old Victoria Beckham fan.

Christina Hayes told The Sun: "I've watched the show in horror. What on earth has happened to her?

The 19-year-old student flew into a rage on Tuesday night after being asked to perform a violin piece for the housemate's talent task. She ended up having crossed words with both Carole and her on-off lover Ziggy, while she has continually vented her fury at Charley inside the diary room, with screaming fits at Big Brother.

"I am going to phone the care team at Big Brother to make sure everything is all right. I don't recognise Chanelle at the moment. I want to know she is getting help in there and that she's OK. I feel like she is cracking up and I can't help her," said 54-year-old Christine.

Talking about former boy band member Ziggy, she said: "He seems to change daily. I won't bad-mouth him because I think he is a nice guy. He has been very caring but he's a lot older.

"I just don't know if he is best for her. He seems to play on her feelings a bit," she added.


Mamabatsy
Member

08-05-2005

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 5:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
That's not the article I saw although she said the same thing about calling the care team. After the US show I'll try to find the one I saw and copy it here.

Kitt
Member

09-06-2000

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 5:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Here's the original article from The Sun that mentions her playing in an orchestra. But it must be very different playing as one of an orchestra than playing solo in front of most of the UK.

ok can't get the link to work as it's got commas in it... here's the google search, click the first link on the page:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22the+sun%22+Christina+hayes&meta=

Thanks for the photos Stormie.

Melissamm68
Member

07-07-2005

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 5:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Melissamm68 a private message Print Post    
I just think that the Chanelle/Ziggy relationship is so unhealthy for both of them and would prefer for it to be over. Chanelle is very high maintenance, and in such small quarters, it would drive anyone crazy. Ziggy, on the other hand, is very emotionally manipulative, which would drive anyone crazy. Chanelle copes by holding everything in and goes into the DR and explodes in a hissy fit. Ziggy, on the other hand, copes by going around and bad-mouthing Chanelle to anyone he thinks will be receptive to it. I tend to side more with Chanelle just because the bad-mouthing and emotional manipulation are things that trigger me so badly. But, to be fair, they're both wrong. They're both unhealthy for the other. I just wish they would move on from each other and start being individuals in the house.

Maris
Member

03-28-2002

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I have to disagree about Chanelle being so high maintenance. I thought that at first but as I watched more and more, it seemed to me that Ziggy was creating that monster to keep her tied to him and dependent on him.

Regarding her being spoilt in wanting to leave, Ziggy has wanted to leave just about once a week. He goes into the diary room and says right, I am ready to go like the entire big brother show is all about what Ziggy wants. I think Chanelle is very young, probably very sheltered and Ziggy is much older than her and has basically become her svengali. He has destroyed any sense of self esteem that she came into the house with and with Carole's help has chipped away and chipped away at her emotionally.

Carole out of jealousy and Ziggy out of selfishness. The only thing Ziggy and Carole have accomplished is actually make people more sympathetic towards Chanelle. In the beginning she struck me as being shallow but I have increasingly felt very sorry for her.

When Ziggy walked into that house, he went after Chanelle with a singlemindedness that was all about gameplay. She was young, clearly impressionable and gullible and he needed someone to latch onto so he could protect his position in the house. He was the last one in of the initial group and he was the only guy. He knew his position in the house was precarious in the first days and that is why he stuck to Chanelle.

Melissamm68
Member

07-07-2005

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 6:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Melissamm68 a private message Print Post    
I definitely agree that a lot of Chanelle's unstable behavior has been as a result of Ziggy's emotional manipulations. Carole's interferences sure light his fire too and makes things even worse. Like I said earlier, I am glad that Chanelle has stayed in the house, I just wish she would stay away from Ziggy.

Mamabatsy
Member

08-05-2005

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
This was from the 27th. For some reason it wouldn't let me copy the begining of the article but it was pretty much what we've read elsewhere;

"Christine, 54, admitted she is also unsure of Ziggy’s intentions. She said: “He seems to change daily. I won’t bad-mouth him because I think he is a nice guy. He has been very caring but he’s a lot older.

“I just don’t know if he is best for her. He seems to play on her feelings a bit.” Christine stuck the boot into Charley, 22, saying: “Being that bit older, she is trying to dominate Chanelle.”

Christine said: “It is totally baffling. She can have her explosive moments like most young people, but is always rational with it.

“At the moment she is being unreasonable. I don’t know why she didn’t play the violin, because she always plays in an orchestra.”
}
Meanwhile, housemates blasted Chanelle for throwing a wobbler. Carole called her a “hypochondriac”, Gerry said her behaviour was “unacceptable” and even boyfriend Ziggy admitted: “I saw something that I didn’t like.”

Mamabatsy
Member

08-05-2005

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 7:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
I think Ziggy has created a monster, but the way she expresses her anger is infantile.

Sorry about the copied article. I spent so much time looking for it that I didn't bother to read and see that someone had already posted a link.

Mamabatsy
Member

08-05-2005

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 7:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
And PS, to me the point wasn't the difference between playing in a group and playing solo. It was that she lied to them all for their sympathy. She said it was something she never did in front of anyone, she played for herself alone.

Stormie
Member

03-01-2007

Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 10:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Let me get back to what did Chanelle do? Even if she has played the violin in an orchestra, it's not the same thing as playing on national television. She used the violin to cope with things when she was in the 7th grade and something just snapped in her when she was tasked to do it in the BB house. Again, what did she do? She lost it not bc she wanted to be difficult or gain attention, but she genuinely seemed to have a breakdown; it looked to me like emotionally she went right back to 7th grade and was feeling the intensity of what she was feeling then, yet initially didn't understand--7th grade was not that long ago for her either.

This has been on-going with she and Ziggy and the break-ups come from him, he doesn't know what he wants. First it was her age, he didn't want to listen to a 19-year-old, then it was she's manipulating him (how, this came from Carole, who can't stand her), it goes on and on. If he wanted space, he should have told her, he didn't. He chose to skirt his own issues with her and then blame her in the end when he felt overwhelmed. Also, lots of HMs wanted to leave and requested to many times, it doesn't mean anything. Maybe she should go home, it must be horrible for her to think that people hate her and that she's embarrassing her family; I just hope she got help from the psychologist. I'd like for her to stay and continue on without Ziggy, but if she goes then perhaps that is best for her. But again, what did she do really? By they way, Ziggy said he loves her again--WTF.

Thanks for the article Kitt and welcome :-) Tomorrow new HMs--whoohoo--new chant, get Carole out, lol, although some want Ziggy or Chanelle to go, okay, we'll take turns. I saw Charley on BBLB today, I hope they don't invite her on any more shows, I don't care what she has to say at all, it's always the same, go away Charley.

Stormie
Member

03-01-2007

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 2:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Friday (Day 59) and Saturday (Day 60) highlight show is up; there are 6 parts to this one.

Big Brother 8 UK July 29 Highlights Show of Days 59 & 60 Part 1

Stormie
Member

03-01-2007

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 3:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
According to DS, some people were saying that last night after dinner, Shanessa spilled to Ziggy that his ex was going to be waiting for him after BB, and that it was in a lot of papers (rags technically though). For some reason it bothered him and people seemed to think that that news upset him. Apparently though, Ziggy and Chanelle are still broken up, but Chanelle was crying in the br last night. Just reading what he had said, it seems he really blamed her again, saying she was a hypochondriac and wanted attention from everyone, etc., and that she's responsible for him being depressed. I so want him to go before she does now.

Someone else wrote that Chanelle's situation was, she had been born in prison and that her birth mother was murdered when she was just 6 months old. There is a question though, whether or not she was there when her mother was killed, bc if she had been, even at 6 months old she'd remember something, subconsciously perhaps. And she didn't find this out until 5 years ago, in the 7th grade.

I'm wondering if they are going to do regular nominations today, then use those nominated to switch with the HWHMs chosen to join the HMs. I haven't heard anything yet. This is going to be interesting.

Care28
Member

05-01-2005

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Care28 a private message Print Post    
Well, after an argument this morning with Ziggy, Chanelle has left the house. It's official this time, as the OS has her picture with "walked" underneath.

Apparently, Chanelle accused Ziggy of ignoring her for most of the day. This caused a heated argument in which Chanelle stated that she wasn't going to allow Ziggy to make her look stupid, or like a doormat, anymore. Ziggy's reply? That HE was being told that HE was the one that looked like a doormat (right, because breaking up with the girl YOURSELF 50 times makes YOU look like a doormat--no, it makes you look like a manipulator).

Ziggy fumed to Carole that he has "time and time again" ignored things with her and let it go.....to which Carole agreed that "many times" he's just rolled over with it & let it slide. I swear to you, these two SHOULD get involved because both of them take the absolute cake.

I'll miss Chanelle. Tantrums or not, she put up with a lot of BS in that house from Ziggy, Charley, and Carole. I'm just disappointed that Carole got her way. And since Ziggy and Carole have both claimed that his relationship with Chanelle has been "holding him back" in the house, we'll see what they have to say now when Ziggy's still the same moronic, fake person he was before.

I'm also kinda happy that Chanelle chose to walk. I wouldn't want to see how Ziggy treated me behind my back in front of all of those people. Let her be told in the privacy of her own home. Safe to say she won't be waiting for him when he exits?