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Kitt
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09-06-2000
| Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 3:42 pm
Lots of people on the stream and it's very choppy... Kat got 4.8% of the vote to win. Someone has got a huge amount of the vote! Kat's in the house, dressed normally now. She seems a bit tearful but ok now. Says they were being upset for losing Mo, as he was always supportive of her, even though had a little fight sometimes. Friends always (crowd cheers her). Pleased she isn't the only one to leave today, got him with her and he's not alone. Dav says Rachel is going to be very upset now, Kat says she loves her. Dav says what about crowd, Kat says happy, says sometimes you can hate her and sometimes you can like her. Might be a bit too happy but rather be happy than miserable. (Audience in the studio being very nice to her thankfully.) Dav says after a while "happy house" got a bit strained. Shows clips of her being happy and then crying. Kat's crying watching the clips. Dav says she wants happiness, must have been hard. Happy about the experience but shocked to leave before final day. Says should be happy to survive this long. Dav says housemates all thought she would win, Kat says she appreciated that, wa because they loved her, but it doesn't mean others don't have different opinions and she respects that. Dav says about Rex sometimes being rude to her. Kat says she's his Thai sister. Kat says when he's rude she thinks it's a joke, he was good when she was sad, gave him hugs. Wants to be his friend. Dav says about Darnell. Kat says when too close with someone you say something you don't mean, and under pressure this week, he's like a brother. Definitely friends with him for rest of their life. Clips of Kat and Rachel. Kat's sobbing again now. Kat says she really feels she loves her. Dav says relationship was equal and nice. Dav asks about the apology by Rachel when she nommed Rex. Kat says she knows she wouldn't be angry with her but knew she wanted to be at the end with a particular group. Dav asks Kat if she thinks she can sing. She says of course, sings "if you're happy and you know it..."! Asks Kat about Sara and Darnell. Kat says Sara just Darnell's friend, she's shocked when everyone knows Sara likes Stuart! Who does she want to win: Rachel (but took a while to choose!) Best bits! Dav has present for her, it's a huge cookie that says "Hilarious" on it! Dav says lines are open for the final five eviction on Friday.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 3:50 pm
Well I'm shocked the second one was Kat. Even though there are a lot who seem to actually hate her, for reasons I don't really understand, it seemed like there were a lot who liked her too. Not long ago she was top or second in the odds to win. Oh well, she did very well in the interview. With only 7% of the vote gone, there must be a LOT of votes for a couple of people. My guess is Rachel, Rex and Darnell will get a lot of votes. But I was clearly wrong before so I'm probably wrong about that. I think Kat's 5% will go to Rachel. I have a horrible feeling Rex is going to win.
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Stormie
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03-01-2007
| Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 4:57 pm
Today's HLs are already up here: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=ermmmmmmmmm DRU and some others from this weekend are up here: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=dirtymonkey151 Thanks Kitt. I think Kat's downfall was defending Rex, when he's genuinely mean to people. How could she actually be hurt if someone stood up to him, I don't get it. Anyway, I'm not surprised Mo left, just that Rex is still there. I hope he doesn't win, but even if he wins he'll still loose, bc he has to live with himself, lol, he'll need the money for therapy. I'd like Sara to win, but I have a feeling it might be Mikey. Getting to the wire.
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Kitt
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09-06-2000
| Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 5:08 pm
Kat's actually had quite a bad edit on the last few shows. Or real edit, depending how you look at it. The things with Darnell on Diary Room Uncut was as much Darnell's fault as hers, but the edit made her seem completely in the wrong. I don't know, I think her crying is often used to stop arguments, but I don't see it as "evil" like some (DS) people seem to. I don't think Rex is going to realise that he behaves badly, he didn't seem to get much of a learning experience from the Sara warning. I still think deep down he's a nice guy, but he's so controlling and lacking in sensitivity. Sara's the only person I don't want to win, as I don't think she's done anything. While I feel bad for her the way Darnell treated her, I think she should take responsibility in part for causing the situation, and she's another one who hasn't learnt from her mistakes - she's all over him again now. Mikey I don't like, but I'd be ok if he won. As I said before, I'd like Rachel to win, and I'd be happy if Darnell did.
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Cricket
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08-05-2002
| Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 8:22 pm
I can't believe Kat was second lowest in the votes. I have to think her fans didn't have time to get in as many votes as they'd like? She made the show for me. I can't stand Darnell. He constantly starts trouble and tries to back out of it. Very funny that what he just said a night or two earlier came to pass for Kathrea. I wanted him to go so much! I don't care who wins at this point. I'll just read here, rather than watch the youtubes. Rex gave a smile after Kat left. I think he thinks he's got this in the bag.
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Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001
| Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 8:47 pm
The bookies have Mikey a big favorite to win... Mikey 10/11 (just under even money) Rachel 11/4 (about 3-1, but the odds are shortening on her a little) Sara 4/1 Rex 9/1 Darnell 18/1 I think the bookies have this right- Mikey or Rachel will win; anyone else would be a huge shock.. And Mario and Lisa are getting a ton of TV offers...one in particular is really unusual- Lisa might become a Gladiator on the Sky One revival..
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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005
| Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 11:15 pm
How sad for Kat. I have been MIA due to being in the hospital. My daughter brought me home tonight and this is the first place I came to get some good news. Poor Kat. I think she was just being herself. Overemotional but not fake as she was labeled by Mario and the whisper club. Long after they are gone, their influence still rules. It would bother me if Mikey or Sara wins. Sara has done nothing in the house but cause trouble. She went from man to man hoping that their popularity would rub off on her. Mikey has been forgiven his disgusting behaviour only because he is blind. If any other man had behaved in the way that he behaves, they would have been nominated and voted out long ago.
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Kitt
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09-06-2000
| Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 11:03 am
One thing I did get, watching the evictions, was how close most of the final group are. The group of Kat, Rex, Darnell, Mo and Rachel really do seem to care about each other beyond the game. I don't think we ever see that with US BB, and rarely that I remember with UK BB. And Kat really talked some truth during her interview, she said that when you spend a lot of time with your brother or boyfriend you say things you don't mean or things blow up for no reason. I thought her interview was very good. Apparently today Darnell's realising some people do like him, for him to have beaten Kat. I wonder if he'll remember it right up until Friday and stop the "woe is me" stuff. And he and Sara shared a bed last night, don't know how far, if anywhere, it went. Mamabatsy, sorry about your hospital trip. I hope you're all mended now.
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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005
| Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 5:38 pm
On the mend, thank you. I just watched yesterday's highlight show. The way they evicted them was harsh. I feel bad for both of them. I don't particularly like Mo, but even he didn't deserve the way that eviction was handled. It just seems they might have planned a task that permitted them to be all dressed up. An awards dinner or something. Forcing them to leave in a robe without makeup is cruel since they all have their eviction outfits planned from the beginning.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 7:23 pm
The highlights from today's show have the impersonations task: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN3VAXENais they're pretty good at Darnell! I wondered what their reasons were for having them do the task during the eviction too. I thought it might be to make sure they were occupied and didn't hear the crowd, but I agree they could have done something where they didn't look so odd! One good thing was they guaranteed no one was in the bath or anything like that. I also noticed they were doing Mo for a long time, and I have a feeling it was so that Mo (who they must have known was likely to be going even before the votes were finalised) didn't leave dressed as Sara, after Alex's comments about Muslims and cross dressing.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 7:29 pm
Oh, and they saw an episode today. They were given a choice of the first episode (where they entered the house), the task where they were shocked by the wire thingy, and the first part of the cops and robbers task. They chose the last one because it was the only one where Sara was there. Interestingly they said Kat got a bad edit, that she didn't come across as loving, like she did to them. I can't remember the episode, and whether it was particularly bad on Kat, but it seems like it's made them think that's why Kat was out so early.
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Stormie
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03-01-2007
| Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 8:48 pm
What did Sara do to cause trouble? I know she spent a lot of time with Lisa, who I wanted to win, but is gone. And the last big thing I saw, was Darnelle and Rex going at her, and then getting talked to by BB about it. At different intervals they both tried to spin things to blame Sara for that. So, I'm not sure before that what she actually did.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 10:15 pm
She's been going from male to male with over the top flirting. She's gone through Darnell, Stuart, Dale, Mo, back to Darnell, with possibly more in between I'm forgetting. All wised up to her except Darnell, who's so desperate to be loved that he can't see that she doesn't feel the way he does. And I'm not talking when women just have a little fun and men think it's more than that and get obsessed, she really crosses a line. Many lines! I haven't yet worked out whether she's unusually unobservant about the men's feelings or whether she needs the attention so much she doesn't care. I've certainly never seen anyone like it... but then I guess BB picks the extremes.
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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005
| Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 10:32 pm
I only see the highlights shows so... this is my opinion based on those. Sara selected one person at a time and was their best buddy. If it was a male person, and it was until the end with Lisa, she was all over him. Arms wrapped around, sleeping, or trying to sleep, in their bed, hardly interacting with anyone else. One by one her victims were sent home. When she tried to glom onto Stu, he wasn't interested so she used Darnell to try to make Stu jealous. She used Darnell and her "fear" that he would attack her to jump into Stu's bed. When Stu left she made a brief play for Mo, but that didn't last. Then there was the bullying by Rex and Darnell which, to me, she almost encouraged by the flirty way she said "no no, stop... hahaha....giggle giggle " If she didn't want that attention, all she had to do was get up and walk away, go in the toilet, or hang out with other women. BUT, she wanted their cigarettes. She even was willing to kiss Mo for a drag on a cigarette. The only week she hung out with a female was that last week with Lisa. When Lisa left, she went back to Darnell, knowing he has a massive crush on her and knowing she just needed a friend. I don't know anyone who sits right up close to their fiends with their arms wrapped around them and a leg throw over theirs. That is the way lovers may sit together or one might make a gesture for a minute or two. That is the way she usually sits with her "pal" Darnell, knowing he puts more emotion into it than she does. As I said, this is my opinion and the reason it bothers me is twofold. I hoped that women had gone beyond overt sexual actions to get ahead and I don't like the message she brings to younger women who are a major part of the fan base of the show. OK rant over. I hope she doesn't win.
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Stormie
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03-01-2007
| Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 10:50 pm
I didn't see anything to that extreme. I hadn't though flirting with single men made her a troublemaker, nor I didn't see an issue. As far as Darnelle, he's obviously got problems and issues and if he feels rejected, he will lash out and make someone dislike him, regardless of truth; it's not Sara's responsibility to make him feel needed and wanted. He didn't want a friend, he wanted her, well, he felt rejected, he lashed out at her; he's lucky she still spoke to him.
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Kitt
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09-06-2000
| Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 11:07 pm
Darnell shoulders a lot of responsibility for his problems with Sara, but she is out of any realm of normal I've seen when it comes to dealing with men. When a normal person flirts they look and listen for signals from the other person that show they are feeling or acting in a way that is going to become uncomfortable or awkward later. Sara doesn't do that, she crosses a line again and again even when by crossing that same line in the past she subjected herself to the (also crossing the line) behaviour of others, like she did last week with Darnell. I'm not entirely sure she means to hurt people but she does. And she's responsible for that as much as Darnell was when he lashed out at her.
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Stormie
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03-01-2007
| Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 2:18 am
Darnelle was hurt bc Sara did not react to him the way he fantasized. Just bc Sara didn't respond how Darnelle envisioned, didn't give him the right to speak to her the way he did. Darnelle lives in his hurt and blames others for his own insecurities, which is something that he likely needs help for, but that's not her fault. It doesn't make sense to me to blame Sara for something that Darnelle and Rex did to her, for whatever reason, that BB stepped in and gave them a warning about. And BB must have seen the entire build up. Darnelle alone is responsible for what he said to Sara. I didn't see her being anything other than a kid having fun. It's like watching a different show, lol.
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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005
| Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 9:24 am
Sara is way over the line. I can't imagine too many kids having fun behaving the way Sara does unless they are hot to trot. Sara behaves in a way that any normal male would take to be a come on. Add Darnell's insecurities and she is cruel. The night she screamed that she was afraid of him and jumped into Stuart's bed was beyond mean and when he was hurt by it, she fell back on the pathetic "it was a joke." If you hurt someone, it's not a joke. Once you know they were hurt, you don't keep harping on how crazy he is to have been hurt. I think she is a nasty piece of work who knows exactly what she is doing.
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Kitt
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09-06-2000
| Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 10:49 am
I don't think we're talking about Darnell's reaction, which I think we all agree was wrong. What he and Rex did to her doesn't negate the fact that Sara's initial actions caused all this. She was wrong, and continues to act in the same way even after seeing the bad results of what she did. Mama's point about "any normal male" is a good one. I think you have to ask yourself how would an average person act when she behaved like that with them? An average male would think she wanted more than she claims she wants and when she moved onto the next guy they would be either annoyed, embarassed or hurt that they'd been played by her. How they reacted to that anger/embarrassment/hurt depends on the individual, and that's why we see Mo denying her cigarettes and giving sly digs, Rex being mean, and Darnell in a complete state. But she has to take responsibility for hurting them. She plays with fire and then gets upset when she gets burnt. I don't like her. Add that to the fact she hasn't done anything in the show except tease the men and whine over not having cigarettes and I'd really like her first out tomorrow.
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Stormie
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03-01-2007
| Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 1:40 pm
How was Sara supposed to know Darnelle has insecurities? She is not responsible for him, he is responsible for himself. That wasn't cruel at all, most people would have laughed it off. She didn't know anything about he being hurt, until he said something later to everyone else but her, and she approached him about it. She may be immature, but she didn't do anything to cause anyone harm, on the other hand, what Rex and Darnelle said was deliberate.
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Kitt
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09-06-2000
| Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 3:02 pm
How long did it take you to notice Darnell has insecurities, Stormie? Two minutes? Sara's living with him day in day out, so to my mind if she didn't know she should have. Otherwise it's kind of like if you stand and ridicule someone who you know has got a temper and finally they hit you. They were clearly wrong for hitting you, but can you really say you did nothing wrong, they were only words, you're allowed to say what you like, when it was obvious to everyone what would happen? Anyway, I respect your opinion, just don't agree with it. Sara does have a lot of supporters though, so I don't think you're alone. Darnell's got an eye patch, he poked his eye on a plant and scratched his eyeball.
look how evilly he's treating Sara, and see how much she hates it ;), just teasing
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Kitt
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09-06-2000
| Friday, September 05, 2008 - 11:22 am
It's the big day today! First show is at noon, board time, but I don't know if all or part of that will be higlights. The second show is 2.00 to 3.05pm board time, so my guess is that's too short to do all five, and they'll do some in that earlier show. I can spoil.
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Kitt
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09-06-2000
| Friday, September 05, 2008 - 12:54 pm
It's time... apparently the 5th and 4th are out in this first hour, and the second how is on time delay, so there might be spoilers out before I errrr, spoil the show. So I'll put the real spoilers in spoiler boxes if I see them. It sounds like the audience are shouting "Get Mo out"!?!?!? Could be one other one syllable word but I can't think who, it didn't sound like "Rex." Seven minutes to the first vote count. They're bringing in the old houseguests. It's a "booey" crowd, they're booing Steph then Sylvia then Jen, Mario. Belinda got some cheers, Bex mixed, Maysoon cheers, Luke got hugged by Davina and lots of cheers. Big cheers for Dale, oh and Dale said he and Jen are NOT going out ANYMORE (ooo!). Then Stuart, then back to boos for Nicole, big cheers for Lisa. Cheers and mixed for Mo and Kat. No mention of Alex or Dennis but no surprise there.
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Kitt
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09-06-2000
| Friday, September 05, 2008 - 1:05 pm
Highlights now. They're just talking about their last day and showing the dinner with the toasts. Rex saying he's a nice young man(!) while thanking and complimenting his father. Rachel thoroughly enjoyed it, doesn't want to leave, all got a bond. Mikey says one teacher said he'd be good as a circus clown, and you don't get much more of a circus than BB. Didn't come to make friends, but is surprised he found a good friend like Rachel. Sara is proud to be there, feels they bonded, will miss it. Darnell says he didn't know what he was getting himself into but it turned out to be the best thing that could have happened to him. Learnt he mustn't label others.
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Kitt
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09-06-2000
| Friday, September 05, 2008 - 1:07 pm
Rex moaning about not enough alcohol. Can't the boy ever be happy! Says BB let them down after 93 days! Someone give him a slap! All holding hands and swaying (except miserable Rex) to "I will always love you." Aww.
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