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The Paul and Merlin fight, day 21

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Cliotheleo
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03-13-2002

Friday, May 21, 2004 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cliotheleo a private message Print Post    
Ok, did EVERYONE miss this? I'm usually up at the time this took place, but slept through it. Anyway, Paul and Merlin had a big blow up last night (this morning our time.) It had to do with whether or not Merls is a "real" Australian. Merlin and his family came to AUS from Germany when he was four but technically, he's not an official citizen. ......... They started off talking about, of all things, circumcision. That's apparently a big deal in Australia, people are very passionate about it. Anyway, in the middle of the discussion, Igor comes in and points out that Merlin is not an official Australian and things just kind of spiralled out of control from there.

BB warned Paul against using physical violence, which was a first for them (they don't beat one another up every season like we do here, ha ha.) Anyway, it was a big deal.

Here it is for those who missed it. Lots of bad language so don't watch if you're easily offended. (the quality's not the best but I wanted to keep the file small.)

http://www.temptsinfo.com/misc/BB%20paul%20merlin%20fight.rm

My favorite part is at the end, they all go in the bathroom arguing and Ryan comes out the opposite way, like he's trying to get away from trouble.

Hamsterlady
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07-03-2003

Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 4:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hamsterlady a private message Print Post    
Thank you Clio! I missed it too :-( but kept reading about it on other boards.

Wisgal
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07-28-2003

Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 8:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wisgal a private message Print Post    
Thank You!!!!!!!
I had also read alot about it because I missed the fight.
Now I want Paul gone as bad as I want Igor out of there!!!

Cliotheleo
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03-13-2002

Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 5:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cliotheleo a private message Print Post    
Paul and Merlin seem to be on good terms now. Did they officially make up or are they just acting like the whole thing never happened?

Wisgal
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07-28-2003

Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wisgal a private message Print Post    
The morning following the fight,Paul & Merlin made up and shook hands to be buds again.

BUT....the truth may show up in the noninations this week.

I heard Paul(talking to the guys) say some things about what one of the girls had said to him and he changed it. Seemed like he was trying to lead the guys toward noninating...his way!!!

Polypody
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04-16-2003

Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 1:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Polypody a private message Print Post    
Paul is not my fav----it seems as if he is just trying to stir things up---but it does keep it from being boring. Although I would love to see him nominated this week!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, May 28, 2004 - 12:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
WOW quite an dialogue! Sounds like that blonde guy is antiJewish. There are MANY different religions that believe circumcision is neccessary. To mention ONLY Jews makes me wonder about his motives. The body language was pretty obvious. The blonde guy was being very aggressive trying to get Merlin to 'give in'....I thought it was hilarious how Merlin just kept his cool.

The mistake was Merlin made, in my opinion, was jokingly saying "F* off you're Australian>>?? "to the standing dark haired guy. That really seemed to inflame the situation.

Sorry. I dont everyone's names yet but it sure hit a sore point when Paul pointed out that the standing guy "DIDnt LOOK aus, and didnt speak like an Aus" And I dont want to play the clip again but Didnt the guy make some kind of comment that he was from Macedonia and his GRANDPARENTS were Aus so HE is Aus. ie he declares he is a THIRD generation Aus. Merlin then says that he is just as Aus as the standing guy since Merlin had lived in Aus since he was four. The two others refused to accept that. What a strange fight!!
In BB USA the hollywood wannabees are way toocamera concious to ever have an argument about any HOT topics. After all, last season had a NON American casted and no one cared. At least AUSBB has cast REAL PEOPLE and are following the usual rules for BB. I wish the USA would go back to the season one format.

By the way, there is great debate about whether being circ'd helps protect you or makes things worse for disease transmission such as HIV. So Paul's comment "Medically proven as overkill?" may NOT BE TRUE. It is easier to keep clean.....and clean after 'intimacy' if you DONT have a foreskin. could be an interesting debate for ANOTHER thread.

Cliotheleo
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03-13-2002

Friday, May 28, 2004 - 6:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cliotheleo a private message Print Post    
No, I think what Igor was saying was that despite his parents and grandparents being born in Macedonia, he was born in Australia, so that made him a citizen according to his passport (which is all they were arguing anyway.) But yeah, most of what Paul was saying was pretty smarmy.

You're right no one cared that last season had a non-US citizen in the cast, I can't even remember who you're talking about (what was it?)

Re: the circumcision issue, that's apparently a pretty hot topic in Australia and the country hasn't mandated it for about 25 years or so.

Here's where you can read more about it http://forum.behindbigbrother.com/viewtopic.php?t=1132&start=0

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, May 28, 2004 - 3:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
LOL Thx for the link.

These people seem more concerned with "how it looks" then the surgery and WHY it is occasionally done.
It seems to me that most men in North America are cut. Uncut is Europe and I guess Australia. I wonder what the stats are. never really thoughts about it before.
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OH I remember his name now. Jun and JEE!! Jee was Korean?? and he had lived in USA since childhood but still was only a 'landed immigrant'. I still am surprised that the USA casting people broke their OWN RULES of using underage people(michelle) and only using USA citizens. Maybe Canadians should start applying for the show. LOL I could just see a NEWFIE in the house. The other HG would be going NUTS in very short order LOL.


Polypody
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04-16-2003

Friday, May 28, 2004 - 6:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Polypody a private message Print Post    
I am happy to hear these people occasionally talk about something half interesting no matter what the subject.

Did anyone see the so-called knife incident the other night? Ryan and the rest of them were drinking a great deal and Ryan was talking to Elle (who had just returned to the 'rich side' that night) and he picked up a knife from the counter.
Nothing was meant in his picking it up--he had previously been rummaging through drawers and the first-aid box while kidding around.
Elle started yelling "put the knife down Ryan!"
BB called him into the DR immediately and he had to apologize to the rest of them.

I also read somewhere that last weekend (early Sunday 0Australia time) that a hang-glider made it in to the BB yard-or hit the top of it.
The article said the line feeds were looped while it was taken care of and the BB players were instructed not to talk about it.
I don't remember where I read it-so can't post link.

Cliotheleo
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03-13-2002

Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 7:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cliotheleo a private message Print Post    
Yes that's right ....... I had forgotten about Jee.

Poly, I just now found out about the "knife incident" (that sounds so scandalous doesn't it?) tonight when I watched last night's daily show. Thanks for filling in some of the missing stuff because I could tell a lot was edited out.

Hadn't heard about the hang glider though, wow.