TVCH FORUMS HOME . JOIN . FAN CLUBS . DONATE . CONTACT . CHAT  
 Wikia  Quick Links   TOPICS . TREE-VIEW . SEARCH . HELP! . NEWS . PROFILE
Archive through April 16, 2008

The TVClubHouse: Big Brother IX- 2008 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 9 - Part 9: The Diary Room/Big Brothers Tool: Archive through April 16, 2008 users admin

Author Message
Boberg
Member

10-04-2002

Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
I have wondered why that over the last 3 years the DR's are boring. They are mainly the HG telling us how a contest works, what happened in the contest, why a nominee should or shouldn't be evicted, how they feel about something mundane, ect.

No new or exciting information ever comes out of the DR's anymore.

Now days, the HG come out of the DR with new doubts and questions about their fellow HG. Apparent the DR is asking questions to lead the HG in certain directions and encouraging certain actions. For instance, James saying that DR didn't want him to evict Matt...Adam say the "doctors office" told him he couldn't trust Sheila. We have heard these kind of DR intrusions into this game more and more over the last couple of years.

I think the HG are less than honest in their DR's nowdays cause they know that the DR passes around information thru suggestive questioning. So we no longer get DR's like we got during seasons 2 and 3. Remember Dr. Will's ....that's where we learned just how much he was playing Nicole. Or how about Danielle's....Roddy is the Devil, or her countdown...3 down, 8 to go.

Those were the days of real, true Diary Room confessionals. In those days, we learned what the players were really trying to accomplish and what their strategy was...who they were using and who they were really loyal to.

Today...we learn how the competition works...blah blah blah.

I blame it on the need of TPTB to interfer and manipulate so much that noone trusts them anymore and therefore no one is upfront and honest in their DR's.


What are your thoughts? Do you agree the DR's have gotten really boring? If so, why do you think this is?

Denecee
Member

09-05-2002

Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 8:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I agree and think you said it well. Great post!

Beekindpleez
Member

07-18-2006

Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 8:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I do agree, Bob...and excellent point. I've noticed more and more that the DRs on the show tell us very very little.

I also recall hearing a Chelsia DR in which Natalie was referred to as "the stipper"...so I think it has become crystal clear that the DR is driving the game to suit the storylines BB wants to put on the show.

Cokegirl
Member

03-08-2004

Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 9:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cokegirl a private message Print Post    
ITA, Boberg. This year does seem more forced then other years. I did enjoy some of last years' DR. The only ones I can really say I remember and LOL to was Sharon DR when Matt saying he was playing her and Sharon in turn said she was playing Matt.

One more I really liked was the GPs but you could so tell that BB words right in their mouths! LOL

Lyn
Member

08-07-2002

Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 9:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lyn a private message Print Post    
All hgs have been cautious in the DR (expect Will and Boogie) in case their fellow hgs see them. (IE: Dani from S3)

Bonbonlover
Member

07-13-2000

Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 9:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Great post Bob!! I have wondered the same thing ... why such boring Diary Room sessions??? As a Live Feed watcher I would always have interest in the TV shows because that was not what I could see from the feeds.. But I really don't need to listen to the HGs narrate the show... so it has made the TV show extremely boring!

Jushvnfn
Member

07-29-2006

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 6:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jushvnfn a private message Print Post    
ITA too. They seemed to get call more often then in the past to me too. None of seemed like they're comfortable either. It looks like they are always sitting on the edge of the seat, with 1 foot ready to go out the door. With the exception of Sheila. With her it's like, "I'm ready for my close up Mr. Demille." IMO....lol

Cr8ofdata
Member

01-13-2004

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 6:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cr8ofdata a private message Print Post    
I totally agree with you!!! In the first 5 minutes is a total recap, they tell you what happened then have the HG tell you what happened in the DR with the footage being in black and white. I don't know how many times my hubby has said just skip this it doesn't matter anyway!!!

I LOVED the DR's when they were funny, when the HG would come in and make fun of the others or tell US what they were really thinking!!! They can hire a freakin host to tell us about the comps.

They really need to go back to what made this show so much fun. My hubby misses that we don't have a say in anything this year. The one thing WE did have a say in they took it away and let the houseguests vote James back in. I am so glad that I didn't waste the money on the live feeds for the first time in 8 years!!!

Boberg
Member

10-04-2002

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 8:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
"One more I really liked was the GPs but you could so tell that BB words right in their mouths! LOL"

Good one Cokegirl!

The "Matt playing Sharon" and Sharon aware of it and she is playing Matt DR are the only ones this year where we learned anything new. Other wise they are useless.

Maybe it is the caliber of player, have we really had the skill and maturity in any one player like we had in Dannielle. I did enjoy Will and Boogie phone call DR's...they were funny and original.

Spunky
Member

10-08-2001

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
The DR is only used for editing purposes, gone are the days of the "confessional". Now they have their "blogs" and that's where you can read some of their "true" feelings.

Mummy35332
Member

09-09-2005

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 11:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
Blaugggh on this years DR. Nothing new. Does CBS really want us to watch the show?

Yes we see the comps we have only heard of, but we know the outcome before the show airs.

CBS give us something we don't know.

Neeta
Member

04-01-2008

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neeta a private message Print Post    
I think they are using the DR to prompt the players in decision making and to make the show more appealing to an audience so their ratings dont drop.AND James got permission to use it to have sex with Chel too, dont forget!!lol.

Tamalina735
Member

07-07-2005

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tamalina735 a private message Print Post    
I think the DR is where our faorite Actors opps Hamsters get their SCRIPTS!!!!! You know that the DR is 100% Controlling the game. Just my Opinion tho.

Stopthemadness
Member

07-15-2005

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stopthemadness a private message Print Post    
I think last night totally proved that the DR is controling the game. Go into the DR evecting Sharon, come out 15 minutes later evecting Nat.

I think Allison wants Adam/Shelia F2 so she can say how well the "soul mates" theme was.

AND I HATE IT!!!!!

Tamalina735
Member

07-07-2005

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tamalina735 a private message Print Post    
Stopthemaddness... I had never thought of that option BUT OMG... HOW GROSS... What a horrible thought but it sounds like something AG would do. PLEASE SAY IT AIN"T SO!!!!!!

Nyheat
Member

08-09-2006

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 10:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
The DR and AG have become enablers to the HGs self-aggrandizing delusions. I read the ED is even more of a %&#$^& to his son because of winning this show. Chicken George basically left his family and took his tin-foil schtick on the road to Vegas. I hate that winners like Mike Boogie run around loose in society thinking they are all that and them some. Welcome to Hollywood!

Wavewatcher
Member

09-09-2006

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wavewatcher a private message Print Post    
Boberg wrote:
Maybe it is the caliber of player, have we really had the skill and maturity in any one player like we had in Dannielle. I did enjoy Will and Boogie phone call DR's...they were funny and original.

I think you got it, Boberg! This year's crew seems to need some
'guidance'. I miss hearing the HGs reveal their strategy and
real feelings as it made the game that more interesting to outside observers. Very lacking in this year's program.

Glitterae
Member

08-02-2005

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glitterae a private message Print Post    
Nobody is an enabler!...These people have "free will" BB is not in any way responsible for what ---holes they are when they leave the house! BB is supposed to be about manipulation...THAT is the premise! This is based on George Orwells, "1984"
The DR is NOT controlling the game...again they have FREE WILL and that is the job of AG and BB to isolate and MANIPULATE!!!!

Bbnine
Member

02-16-2008

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnine a private message Print Post    
I couldn't agree more Boberg!!!!!!

Like someone said last night .... why doesn't BB just hand them a script as soon as they walk through the door ..of how BB wants the show to go....

This is NOT a reality show .... nothing real about it. Why can't these people just play how they want..... not how BB wants it.

I say Fire AG so maybe we can have a better summer BB

Fredi
Member

04-01-2008

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fredi a private message Print Post    
So true Glitter but it seems to be easier for some to blame the DR when things don't go right for their favorites. jmo

Missyb
Member

07-28-2004

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
It's funny but I never really liked Boogie and WIll's dual DR's during all stars. Talk abput scripted. I guess it was kind of cool that they could tell the DR that this was what they were going to to but I hated how Will felt he could take control of production. He always acted as if he was the producer and frankly in all-stars, I did not find him funny or entertaining. I think he way over produced himself.
I think the DR gives them options and asks them to verbalize each option so they can decide which ones to air. In doing so they have to think it out loud and that in turn makes the HG think, hmmm is this they way it should be, without someone else yapping in their year. Cuz even if the DR prompts, I don't think they yap away with the HG's. They prompt and wait.

Nyheat
Member

08-09-2006

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Lol, it's not that big of a deal. I stopped thinking that Big Brother was anything other than a Hollywood wanna-be cattle call a long time ago, with regular people like Kail from Oregon chewed up and spit out for our (and Alison Grodner's) amusement! And the people behind the cameras and in the walls are in on the "cooler-than-thou" joke!

Rosem4243
Member

06-27-2005

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
Glitter, I get what you're saying about the DR & BB being allowed to manipulate the HG. My problem is that they are manipulating US...the paying viewers.

After watching everything that went down last night only to come here and find out that Ryan flipped after talking to the DR...I feel PLAYED. I want to be IN ON the manipulation, and that is what I take issue with. That AG & Co. have an agenda that doesn't include the viewers!

(Oh, and ETA, I have no favorites, and don't care who goes, other than this blatant manipulation by BB to get a particular HG evicted.)

Denecee
Member

09-05-2002

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
It's all the DR's fault!!! LMAO!

Rosem4243
Member

06-27-2005

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
LOL, Denecee, well at least it's not Janelle's fault!