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Abbys_mom
Member
03-10-2008
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:06 am
Ok - good Klaw - I thought you may be mis-interpeting what I was saying. I see good in ALL of the remaining houseguests as individuals . . . .I don't think any of them are bad people - I just don't agree or like some of the gameplay that certain HG's are utilizing/portraying - and that is true for all of us here in the big happy (usually) family of TVCH!!!
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Lajonesin
Member
03-22-2008
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:11 am
Klaw, how is BB bullying Natalie? <76>. They all have good hearts and good points to their character, even James. She's no better, no worse. Just the most annoying with her self-rightgeous attitude and overbearing need for attention. She is not a victim.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:13 am
Abby, I hear you and I don't like some of the gameplay I've seen either. In fact, I find myself screaming at the monitor/tv sometimes saying "NOOOOO." lol. Yeah, last night was one of those times for me, but some people are saying it was better for Natalie to take her chances this week and just fight for the POV. I am hoping that is true and she wins...
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:19 am
I see good in all the houseguests... but I gotta say I don't think I would be friends with any of them
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:22 am
Lajonesin, I wrote a post about it this morning in Natalie's Behavior Thread. They probably do all have good hearts and good points of character. I felt the same way about James that you do about Natalie. She absolutely has been the victim of many, many personal attacks, etc. The only difference is, she won't play the role, whereas James played it perfectly. 
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Abbys_mom
Member
03-10-2008
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:23 am
LOL ~ me either, Bon!
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:24 am
RE: James - I give him props for playing hard, but he cried seven ways from Sunday to get them to keep him, then he tells Julie he's happy to leave and hopes its final. Puhleez!!!
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:27 am
I just think she's putting on an act. I've watched her during a couple of her 'caring' jags and noticed her eyes searching for a camera. The sex kitten act didn't work, so now she's trying this one. And it killed her that America didn't think that she was the most caring towards the pets so now she's stretched her act to include the guinea pigs, too.
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Jushvnfn
Member
07-29-2006
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:27 am
Just the most annoying with her self-rightgeous attitude and overbearing need for attention. She is not a victim. Funny how we all see things in a different way....lol I she Sheila like that. Abby, I hear you and I don't like some of the gameplay I've seen either. I am always amazed every year how the HG's can be so mean to each other behind their backs, and look them in the eye. Klaw...GMTA...
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:30 am
See, I do see Nat "playing the role." She plays the role of victim, which is why they do it to her. It's like last nights clips of her preaching about the Bible and praying, then lying right there point blank to Ryan and returning to the Bible quotes. How does a person do that? Seriously? I would be afraid lightning would strike me or something. To lie w/ the the Bible sitting in your lap and proclaim all she does... I am sorry, but that pushes the envelope to me. I mean, the Bible actually teaches that it is a worse sin for those who know better to knowingly commit a sin than those that are ignorant. The girl just slants things too much to suit me to be honest. I actually don't think Nat has that good of a heart. I think in many ways, she is so focused on her ownself, she can't see what others see in her. Everything is about "I am going to win POV or HOH tomorrow" etc etc. I never knock anyone for finding God or religion. I am not their judge, he is. However, I do see a prison like mentality in some that come in to the BB house where they do find God, but ignore the teachings when it's not convienent for them to follow. Yes, I know religion can be a hot topic issue for many, but given Nat's focus on it to the extent she does, it just lays it out there for comment in many ways. Even with Jam last year, I didn't want to criticize like I do with Nat. I don't know, there is and always has been something that made me uncomfortable with the girl. Her claims to be a Christian and the oral sex, the stripping, and other stories just never jived together. The thing is, at first, I thought her Chrisitanity was a new found thing, like recent and in the house. However, she said in one interview that she came in to the game a Christian. That is where I find fault and it makes those who doubt or knock faith have more proof as to why it's false IMO.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:31 am
Jush, perhaps that description can be used for a lot of the houseguests...I see that in Sheila and Sharon as well. hehehe
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:36 am
Yep, I see it in each and every one of them.
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Tissy
Member
07-28-2003
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:38 am
And it killed her that America didn't think that she was the most caring towards the pets so now she's stretched her act to include the guinea pigs, too. Did she bother with them before?
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Jushvnfn
Member
07-29-2006
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:38 am
Nat may have come is as a Christian, but IMO she had her awakening in the house. She seems to be struggling with how to use it...I have high hopes that it will eventually all come together for her
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:39 am
It is interesting how one cannot see their own faults yet those of others. All of these HG's would do well to read Eckhart Tolle's book, "A New Earth" and to take Oprah's class on Monday nights.
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Rebelmomx2
Member
08-16-2006
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:40 am
(((((Shop))))) ITA! "boom, d u n, stamped, and even co-signed" all the above... finally!
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:40 am
Shop, do you apply the same standard/principles to Sharon, Adam, and Ryan? Personally, I don't think it is my place to judge someone's Christianity/faith at all period, much less in the course of a stressful game. Therefore, I look past it...only one judge that matters to me and I am sure to Natalie as well. JMO.
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Abbys_mom
Member
03-10-2008
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:40 am
My take on the religion issue is that they are ALL overplaying their Christianity. I teach 5th grade religious ed at my church and, although I can't quote the exact scripture verse, Jesus does tell us just to go quietly into our Christian lives and not to boast or draw attention to ourselves about it . . . that, according to the Bible, is not christian behavior. So, they are all being un-Christian like by boasting about and going on and on about who's the bigger Christian - it's all innappropriate.
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Nana731
Member
07-06-2005
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:41 am
Nat really didn't have much to do with the gp's until after that comp, when America voted Sharon over Nat, as most caring about animals. Now, everytime Sharon says Babeees or Furrriends, Nat has to join in and copy her. Then last night she kept saying, oh I love the gp's sooo much.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:41 am
When did America and other countries let her in on this knowlege? Speculation?
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:41 am
Did she bother with them before? Yes, that is why Sharon picked Natalie as the person to take care of them in case she was evicted.
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Nana731
Member
07-06-2005
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:42 am
ITA Abbeysmom
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Nana731
Member
07-06-2005
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:44 am
Csnog, were you asking me about when America let her in on this knowledge? If so, it was in that one comp, it was a question about what America voted.
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Alt_hazel
Member
03-08-2008
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:44 am
Whatever their morality, religion, etc., some people are just annoying. Natalie is annoying to me, like nails on a chalkboard. That is why I don't like her. I can embellish that with things like her justifications for Matt, or her convenient relgion, but the bottom line is, we just don't "click". I think that is why posters make excuses for some and not others. With people we find annoying, it is easier to see the flaws. With people we like, it is easy to justify the flaws.
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Nana731
Member
07-06-2005
| Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:45 am
Klaw, yes she did have some to do with the gp's before, but she didn't start copying Sharon's names for the gp's until after that comp.
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