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Who has a deal with whom?

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Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 4:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I'm trying to find out which deals the hgs have going on.

Could people add to/correct these? Might be useful for the future!

Natalie
. has a final two deal with James
. has a final three deal with Sheila and Sharon

Sheila
. has an unspoken(?) final two with Adam
. has a final three with Sharon and Natalie

Sharon
. has a final two with Josh (soon to be broken)
. has a final two with Ryan
. has a final three with Sheila and Natalie

James
. has an unspoken(?) final two with Josh
. has a final two with Natalie

Josh
. has a final two with Sharon (soon to be broken)
. has a final two with Ryan
. has a final two with Adam

Adam
. has an unspoken(?) final two with Sheila
. has a final two with Josh
. has a final two with Ryan

Ryan
. has a final two with Josh
. has a final two with Sharon
. has a final two with Adam

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 5:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
A lot of deals going on in there, LOL. Everyone have deals going on with everyone else!

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 5:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Kitt...Adam and Sheila have spoken about Final Two. Many times. So I think that's a spoken Final Two. lol
Sure are a heck of a lot of Final Two deals, for sure.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 5:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think it's funny that Natalie is all about breaking up the Josh and Sharon alliance. But hello... did you forget that you have a couples alliance on YOUR team? Adam and Sheila would definitely cover each other's backs (Adam, up to a point but definitely over most of the other HGs).

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 5:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
BTW, Natalie doesn't have a F2 alliance with James. She put him on the block, remember? She doesn't trust him and won't help him get to F2.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 5:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
James tried to make the F2 deal with Nat after he won POV this week costa....Nat didn't believe him, but didn't tell him that of course.

Frankly now, they should be thinking of F4 first, then work from there (since winning HOH then only gives you F3- POV is more important that week because if a non-HOH person wins it, they control the only vote to evict..the HOH can set it up as to who they WANT to have the only vote, but unless they win POV it's not a given...

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 5:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I think it's funny that Natalie is all about breaking up the Josh and Sharon alliance

I don't see it so much as Natalie wanting to break up the Sharon/Josh alliance as it is that she wants to get him out because of the way he has gone off on the women...and brought Natalie's mother into the fray. She was really hurt by that and has said several times that if she were to leave Josh in...or help Josh stay...it would be wrong in light of how he has treated the gals.

And I think James is quite dismayed that Natalie didn't jump on his bandwagon as fast as she could when he made his generous offer to her to be with him. He doesn't seem to deal well with rejection...and he has been rejected by her because of the issue of trust. To her, he has proven himself untrustworthy and there is simply no going back now.

She does seem him as a good gamer...and I do think she respects that about him. But the other issues are too big for her to overcome.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 5:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Perhaps we need tags of actual alliances vs. fake alliances!

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
LOL!

I see it this way:

Real Alliances:
Sheila/Adam



That's about it.

The rest are "How far can I go" alliances.
Most of them are in it for themselves...as they should be.

Sharon has jumped the Josh ship because one of them must go...and of course, she doesn't want to be the one. So, she is scrambling for an all-girl alliance.
Makes sense.

Then there is the all-boy alliance. James hasn't spent enough real time with either of them to be in on this, though. They both want him gone.

Adam and Ryan have talked to eachother about continuing to keep Natalie even though she'll be nearly impossible to beat in the end. They just like her...they can't help themselves. She is the most fun and does the most for them.

Ryan and James seem to really want Sheila gone...and I can understand why. If one of them get HOH, Sheila will be up.

Just rambling now...but I think Sheila and Adam are the strongest true alliance.

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 5:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    
Time to update this thread as it looks like James is leaving this week.

All I can make out is that Ryan has deals with Sharon, Nat and Adam !

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
I agree, Adam and Sheila are the strongest alliance. As far as Ryan keeping Natalie, he talked last night with Sharon about getting her out, possibly before Adam. So, IMO, he can't like her too much. He likes the thought of half a million; and will do anything to get it. If Natalie is a strategic player she needs to worry about getting Ryan out before she worries about anyone else. Seems to me he is playing all sides and nobody is getting it.

Buddeelove
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08-24-2007

Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buddeelove a private message Print Post    
if sharon ryan final 2, sharon will win

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 7:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    
I think Ryan will have trouble winning against anyone apart from Sheila and she`s the only one he hasnt got a f2 deal with ! rofl!

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I think that if Ryan has deals with everyone, he is like Dr Will in that sense. He has everyone else doing his dirty work, and he is deflecting blame because everyone likes him. If he goes to F2 with Sheila, he can say he was nice to everyone, he made deals and deliberately let others take the heat, and I think most people would respect those game moves. I also think that so many people have been pissed off by Sheila, that they will vote for Ryan. Sure, Sheila has ALSO orchestrated some good game moves by other people, but she did it in the wrong way, and did not KEEP friends along the way.

Ryan has played the ultimate game, IMO. He has been NICE, done very little *unnecessary* or *recreational* backstabbing, and he has made deals to protect himself and shift the focus onto others. His game is a subtle and intelligent one, that still has its integrity intact.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
"recreational backstabbing"!!! lol!!! good way to put it

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 7:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
IMO there is NO comparison between Ryan and Dr. Will. Dr. Will had so much charisma and charm...I don't see any of that in Ryan. Dr. Will could tell the people in the house anything and even with his reputation as the puppet master they fell for it. Ryan would not be in the house at all right now if he hadn't been sucking up to Natalie. I think if he makes it to F2 with any of them he will lose. He's done his fair share of backstabbing, including his conversation with Sharon last night about taking Natalie out. IMO he hasn't done much of anything in the game. Adam, on the other hand, has stepped up his game. He's been the nice guy, laid low, been friends with the entire house, won 2 HOH competitions....I'd have to say he is the one everyone likes. Just my opinion.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 7:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
The problem with Ryan is that when he wants someone out really bad he's merciless... he won't even try to turn things around and make his victim his ally. Don't know what he'll do to Natalie then, he'll try hard to get her out if he sees she's a big threat to him.

I thought Jen was the one who really wanted to be in this game because she thought she'd be better at it, but Ryan gets in there with a vengeance, won't hesitate to boot "a secret ally" if it doesn't work for him. He'll get what he can get (even the money Sheila had won), he's the opposite of Adam. He won't waiver, he wants someone out, he'll get his way.
Well, maybe this is the way to win BB, but I don't like the guy.

Oh, who's with whom? Ryan says is with Sharon, he's with Natalie, he's with Adam and he's with Sheila but he will keep only the one who helps him out in the end.

Natalie wants to be in F3 with Ryan and Sheila and in F2 with Sheila thinking she'll win against Sheila (possible). She will lose against Ryan or Adam.

I was hoping Adam to win it all but his "folding under pressure from Ryan and Natalie" makes him a weak player.

Sharon is just the lamb among wolfs but if she survives til F2 she'll win.

Mama2oliviamae
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08-16-2006

Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mama2oliviamae a private message Print Post    
Everyone has a F2 deal with everyone except James. lol

It's hilarious that no one has double thought any one else's "secret" alliances. LOL

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
I have a deal with Lurk Just & a secret partner

Bbnine
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02-16-2008

Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnine a private message Print Post    
Intersting conv with Sheila/Adam:

You will be at the end of this game Adam, I guarantee you, you're strong. You go to the end and kick *ss. I'm definitely jumping ahead, but I'm looking at the end of this game. Till death do us part, Adam says, we were true to us till the end. That's the f*cking love story. I hate you Adam, and I know you didn't need to do this show, that you have an amazing life out of this house, that you would do amazing things with the money. Everybody else has thrown their partners under the bus. But everyone watching the show on the internet and on Showtime, they see that we're the only partners that are still together.

Sheila says you gotta know, they are going to come to you, and you can't let them know what you are doing. It's f*cking perfect. James thinks you hate me and that I hate you. Sheila says Adam is Ry-bread's boy. She doesn't know if Adam could win over Natalie. Sheila said people might not want to give me the money because I haven't won anything, I DON'T CARE. (ed. LOL)

Sheila says his noms were ballsy, it was a gutsy move. Ryan just HAS to use the veto. Adam says we can trust Ryan. Adam says I can trust you, Sheila says till the end. We've had each other's back. Sheila said, you need to trust me in this game. Just remember who you want to see at the end of this game with you, Adam says you. Sheila says me too.


Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
wow thanks for catching all that. You have a great memory

Bbnine
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02-16-2008

Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnine a private message Print Post    
LOL! .... no memory recap from Jokers ...

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    

Adam says so you think Natalie will have my back before Ry-bread's? Sheila said yes,


Uh-oh - I dont think so.