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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 5:11 am
I think all this stress and obsession over a few germs is gonna do you more harm in the long run. Having 4 kids, I couldn't even begin to tell you the filth I have washed of them after a day of playing, I don't even want to know what some of it was. They are very healthy. People have to relax, or go lock themselves in a bubble.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 5:47 am
Obsession.......I don't know about that. It is however just plain ole nasty. This would be a deal breaker with a man for me. He would not be in my presence for very long at all if I were in a situation where I knew lack of hand washing had occured. I saw the article on purses and another pet peeze of mine is people putting purses on tables/counters. I would think that sitting them on the floor of your home < if your home is failry clean > is certainly better than the floors of filthy public rest rooms, which was the focus of the article that I saw. I don't catch colds because I am careful about what I touch, particularly at work where there are literally hundreds of people on the college campus where I work.
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 6:24 am
you can't put your purse on the floor, on the table on a counter, what do you do with it. And if there are so many germs on the floor, well it is getting on our shoes, and when we remove our shoes it gets on our hands, oh and it must get on our feet, and when we take our clothes off to wash away those germs they must get tranfered to the air, omg, now we have to breathe, I need a mask, no that won't work, I have to touch the mask to put it on and I must have gotten germs on my hands from the ones that are floating around in the air from taking my shoes and clothes off because I touched the floor, omg, I am going to die I just know it. Not trying to be rude here just having a little fun and trying to lighten the mood. This isn't directed at anyone or anyone's posts. I have to add I do wash my hands after using the bathroom but I think people take things too far and worry too much.
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Mama2oliviamae
Member
08-16-2006
| Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 6:34 am
LMAO, Llkool. ITA. I'm not trying to offend people either. I, too, try to wash my hands EVERY SINGLE time but sometimes the phone rings or there's a kid screaming or it's eeriely (sp?) silent in the kids' bedroom, etc. I'm just saying it happens. lol
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 6:54 am
Eeyore said: MEN should more than women, because men actually have to TOUCH their "bits" Hey! When I'm in a public bathroom I wash before. I want my "bits" to stay tidy. (I also wash after too) Seriously, we wash our hands thoroughly and often. As I mentioned, in the washroom and as soon as we come home after being out. It's easy to wash your hands well in a public washroom. Turn on the taps, wash thoroughly with soap and water, rinse, get some paper towels, dry your hands, turn off the tap with the paper towels and open the door with a paper towel. That said, I don't know how much good it does. 
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 6:56 am
quote:Unless you use HOT water, and LOTS of soap, and wash thoroughly - between fingers, under nails, etc. for a full 45 seconds, you didn't really do any damage to germs and bacteria I dont believe that is true. What you are describing is a major wash used before surgery LOL
From the Mayo Clinic: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hand-washing/HQ00407 I'll paste the relevant portion: Proper hand washing with soap and water Follow these instructions for washing with soap and water: * Wet your hands with warm, running water and apply liquid soap or use clean bar soap. Lather well. * Rub your hands vigorously together for at least 15 to 20 seconds. * Scrub all surfaces, including the backs of your hands, wrists, between your fingers and under your fingernails. * Rinse well. * Dry your hands with a clean or disposable towel. * Use a towel to turn off the faucet.}}
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 8:16 am
Sometimes I scrub threm thoroughly sometimes I rinse and dry my hands of on my pants. lol Back to the purpose of this thread, I too have often wondered why people keep track of who or who doesn't wash their hands. Remember poor Gerry, the guy who got up early in the morning and had his shower and everyone talked about how he never had a shower, wow, it must be the boredom in there.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 8:50 am
Lately I've taken to carrying sanitized wetwipes in my purse. Also I flush with my foot/shoe and use my sleeve or paper towel for opening and closing doors in public washrooms. I also take public transit, and those poles in the busses and subways, are covered in germs. Ick.
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Ginger1218
Member
08-31-2001
| Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 8:51 am
I wash my hands in a restroom, but them I will take a paper towel or tissue and not touch anything after that. I will never touch a door handle in a public bathroom without a tissue or paper towel. uggghhhh
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 9:31 am
When I worked at the retirement home, every year we had an in-service about proper hand washing. After the first year it was pretty boring but there were always new people who hadn't been to the last meeting and every year they showed films that made me want to go wrap myself in saran wrap. Other than the time limit (we were told 30-45 secs) and using the paper towel to turn off the light and open/close the door, the whole in-service could have been shortened to the Mayo Clinics instructions.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 5:01 pm
next thing you know...people will prolly be outraged because they pee in the shower.
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 9:42 pm
Oh my heavens NO, Nick. You mean no one has caught them doing that yet!?!? LOL
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 11:41 pm
I only pee in OTHER people's showers, but not my own. Ooooh.....soon they will also document every time there are TOO MANY bubbles in the hot tub, if you catch my drift.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, March 28, 2008 - 9:09 am
missed my comments and point completely. you didn't really do any damage to germs and bacteria I dont believe that is true. What you are describing is a major wash used before surgery ****** Thx for posting that procedure but as I said, most of the Bacteria/ virus ARE washed off easily. That procedure is suggested for people who want to try to almost sterilize their hands. In real life you should not do that all the time. The scrubbing and heavy duty soap breaks down the surface of the skin. This Increases the chance of an infection. I worked in a hospital for Years and let me assure you, Most of us had bleeding open lesions on our hands from the brutal handwashing BEFORE wearing gloves 100% of the time became the norm. You would wash before and after every patient, then before and after touching any specimen we would work on. Question: Has anyone else heard of this study? Those studies primarily are done to scare the bejeebers out of people. Staph and strep are all over and inside our body right now. However the RARE bacteria will put out a toxin. It is just random 'lottery' if you get it. The worst flesh eating disease I saw was from a tiny papercut on a lady's finger. The blood poisoning was travelling approximately 3 inches an hours up her arm. She ended up having muscles removed surgically. }
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, March 28, 2008 - 9:16 am
To have a good wellworking immune system you need to have contact. Think of how the Smallpox vaccine was developed. People were purposefully scratched and Cowpox was introduced into the lesion. the person would become 'infected' and then would be immune to the Bad disease Smallpox. We have a sick society right now. People have immune problems, allergies asthma. the incidence of Childhood asthma alone is up over 50% (if I recall correctly) People are making themselves and their families sick by using harsh chemicals and cleaning agents in their house. I'm sure I'm going to gross everyone out but I must say...a little dirt doesnt hurt anyone. In the old days people would live in sod houses iwth Dirt floors. There are millions of people in Canada. How many 'outbreaks' of disease occurs? virtually none. You probably have a better chance at winning the 649 Lottery then to Ever have a Skin transmitted Disease that is at all dangerous. Anyways. I'm really tired so I'm not sure if anythign is clear or making sense.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, March 28, 2008 - 9:19 am
oh and I wanted to say once again. Negative tests for STDs prior to Bigbrother means nothing. Due to seroconversion times, a neg HIV means virtually nothing if done only once. (unless they are using a new methodology that I am not aware of)
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Pippin04
Member
10-26-2007
| Friday, March 28, 2008 - 9:28 am
I used to work with a person who would freak out and refuse to touch any paper that was touched by a person who did not wash hands after using the lavatory. Unfortunately there was an entire department that never washed, and they all passed papers to her. It was a nightmare trying to explain she would not get sick from the papers and trying to get people to wash. I think if you are brought up washing you will automaticallly do it, but some people have never been told they should wash after using the loo.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, March 28, 2008 - 9:47 am
<76>, running water in bathrooms is only a relatively NEW luxury. Only in the past 80 years have we even been ABLE to wash our hands after each bathroom trip. How on earth did our ancestors survive?!?!?!!? I think the post-bathroom handwashing thing is just a bunch of kerblooey, being made out to be more of a hazard than it really is.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, March 28, 2008 - 10:13 am
My mother thawed her turkey in the sink, without cold water. I've been on every filthy carnival ride and played every filthy game they have, then go grab an ice cream cone or something. I'm more grossed out by the bathrooms at carnivals than worrying about holding my food with my poo-poo hands. I eat in restaurants, knowing that everyone isn't furiously washing their hands between bussing tables and serving my food. All 10 of my nieces and nephews have sneezed in my face, and I've changed their diapers. I do wash after using the bathroom, even though I don't touch my bits. That's just because I was raised that way, not because I worry about germs so much.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Friday, March 28, 2008 - 10:25 am
Last week I was having lunch with a friend who has concerns about germy handbags. She pulled out one of these gadgets she'd recently purchased. Not only does it solve the germ problem but also it lets you see where your purse is at all times. http://www.silviasshop.net/butterfly-with-rhinestones-handbag-hanger.html
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, March 28, 2008 - 10:36 am
I'll bet you could hang a thawing turkey from that thing and let the drippings go onto the floor.

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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Friday, March 28, 2008 - 11:11 am
Bwahahahahahaha Hukd! 
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Bob2112
Member
06-12-2002
| Friday, March 28, 2008 - 11:57 am
This seems appropriate for this thread:THE STRING AND THE SPOON Last week, we took some friends out to a new restaurant, and noticed that the waiter who took our order carried a spoon in his shirt pocket. It seemed a little strange. When the waiter brought our drinks, I noticed he also had a spoon in his shirt pocket. Then I looked around saw that all the staff had spoons in their pockets. When the waiter came back to serve our starters I asked, "Why the spoon?" "Well," he explained, "the restaurant's owners hired a consulting firm to revamp all our processes. After several months of analysis, they concluded that the spoon was the most frequently dropped utensil. It represents a drop frequency of approximately 3 spoons per table per hour. If our personnel are better prepared, we can reduce the number of trips back to the kitchen and save 15 man-hours per shift." As luck would have it, I dropped my spoon and he was able to replace it with his spare. "I'll get another spoon next time I go to the kitchen instead of making an extra trip to get it right now." I was impressed. I also noticed that there was a string hanging out of the waiter's fly. Looking around, I noticed that all the waiters had the same string hanging from their flies. So before he walked off, I asked the waiter, "Excuse me, but can you tell me why you have that string right there?" "Oh, certainly!" Then he lowered his voice. "Not everyone is so observant. That consulting firm I mentioned also found out that we can save time in the restroom. By tying this string to the tip of you know what, we can pull it out without touching it and eliminate the need to wash our hands, shortening the time spent in the restroom by 76.39 percent. I asked "After you get it out, how do you put it back?" "....Well," he whispered, "I don't know about the others, but I use the spoon."
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, March 28, 2008 - 12:10 pm
LL said "I think all this stress and obsession over a few germs is gonna do you more harm in the long run." I saw the regular morning show Dr. Nancy Snyderman (?) just recently saying this very thing. We do need exposure to build up immunity. I do always wash after going to the bathroom, even in the middle of the night. My mom taught me and I taught my kids to do this. As far as I know, my husband always washes too. I do think it's interesting that when I told him a few years ago about people posting all the hgs words and actions that hand washing was frequently mentioned, that my husband said that if a guy is not sitting, that he is only touching skin and is not coming into contact with bodily fluids whereas women have a greater probability of coming into contact with fluids unless they use a lot of TP. I never thought of it that way before. It did give me a new perspective. I still think both genders should always wash with soap after using the bathroom, after coughing, after being out in public etc. I also think we should try not to touch the public restroom door with our hands. It does cut down on harmful germs. I used to work in an office. I kept a can of lysol in my desk. I would clean my phone when others would use it. We didn't have computers then. In thinking of people eating at computers, microscopic crumbs could grow a lot of germs. Years ago maybe people didn't seem to get as sick, but there wasn't as much travel and certainly not as much international travel as we have today. Also, there weren't as many people. Now we are more populated and people live closer and closer together, in the usa anyway. As far as other germs, someone (my mom?) said that our 2nd child wasn't hardly ever sick because she occasionally ate off the floor!
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Friday, March 28, 2008 - 12:39 pm
A lot of restrooms don't have paper towels. They have those hot air thingies or haven't replaced the towels. When I have to use a filthy washroom, I don't wash my hands. I figure, better the germs my body knows, than the ones it doesn't.
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