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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:11 pm
Also this years BB bunch seem incapable of taking on any personal resonsibility for their actions. So they need that scapegoat, because they MUST be able to put the blame on someone but themselves at all times. This truly is one of the most legitimately out of touch with personal actions/repercussions/responsibilty/self-awareness I have ever seen in my life. For ex, look how the J/J/C/S group always can't fathom why the HOH wouldn't go for an "easy, quiet week" but not putting any of them up, then turn around and talk about how they will evict them and bash them. GEE why in the world did they turn down that easy week. I could go on and on. But most on there seem to spin in their own universe's, not seeing beyond their own point of view or their own feelings. I think some of it may have to do with the average age of the HG's. Easy to forget how young and how little they've lived. When Chels spoke of going back to college yesterday it really took me back. I totally don't think of her as a college kid, but inspite of her mouth/actions/history she is.
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Muffin
Member
08-29-2007
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:12 pm
Maybe no one has Nat's back, but she has theirs, and that is why they should keep her. I was surprised that Ryan told Sheila about his grandfather, but kudos to Sheila for not telling anyone else, as per his wishes. Chelsia probably would have gone off on him, telling him what a bad person he is for staying in the house.
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:12 pm
Adam isn't innocent either, he was snickering and pointing to her sitting on the couch outside the hoh room, when he put her out and he went downstairs.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:13 pm
TY Seattle..see I knew he felt badly. Even though I agree w/the too late, least he said it and really felt it. Gigi, what was Josh not James?
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Tanith
Member
08-25-2006
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:14 pm
Sheila was the only who sorta tried to help Nat by telling Chels to stop. (Of course this was after big She had been trash talking Nat in the HT earlier, but still)
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Gigi
Member
07-22-2005
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:14 pm
lurk- just that it was josh that was egging chelsia on and then went and got nat in hoh- not james. that's all.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:19 pm
I thought it was James that acted the most mature last night..
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:19 pm
OK, I think Nat is definitely new to her faith. Sharon mentioned Psalms 23 and she asked what it was. Sharon started reciting it, and it was almost like the first time Nat heard it. ?
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:19 pm
oh Thanks! I remember James going up there to say he was no part of it, and guess I merged it. I def recall Josh doing a MAJOR job of egging it on downstairs later and dousing much fuel on the fire, so that makes perfect sense!
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Tanith
Member
08-25-2006
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:20 pm
Bon, I thought James was pretty well-behaved, too lol.
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Skylar47
Member
08-24-2004
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:21 pm
James was not pleased with Chelsia going off on Natalie because of his position in the house...It was different when he was on the block..He saw nothing wrong with throwing pickle juice on Natalie...James is not a caring person he just doesn't want to hurt his chance of winning.. Chelsia and James are the biggest Hypocrits in that house...Chelsia called Natalie Trailer trash..Well hello Chelsia you just Met James yourself but you had some nasty times...Big brother for some reason is protecting James and Chelsia...I dont get it! Mark my word..If James gets put on the block gain he will pull another fit again...
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Gigi
Member
07-22-2005
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:22 pm
josh knows when to be cruel with his own mouth and when to encourage others to be cruel to deflect the attention away from him.
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Tanith
Member
08-25-2006
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:24 pm
Sky, regardless of his motivations, which ITA, he still acted the best of the boys. I think Ry and Adam are jealous of James. I was laughing when Adam was in the HOH asking Nat why James is soo good.
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:24 pm
I still think Josh and Sharon knew it was coming, Chelsea was waiting till after pov, it served them better for the blowup to be prior to pov, hench they gave her their acholhol. Sheila played a part in it also with her rant about Natalie's christianity and the prayer thing. Sheila was patting herself and throwing Natalie under the bus because she is aware that Nat has taken her place with Adam. Chelsea was the worst but there were more hands than hers in that display last night, and imo Natalie had it coming.
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Gigi
Member
07-22-2005
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:24 pm
** not that i think that josh's cruelty is ok, just saying he uses it wisely(term used loosely here).
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Skylar47
Member
08-24-2004
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:25 pm
Joshua scares me..He looks so evil when he eggs people on to say and do things...This is the 2d time Joshua has wanted to put Ketchup on Natalie or her bed to resemble an aborton...Hes one sick pup!! imo
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Bicbicz911
Member
08-20-2005
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:25 pm
Big brother for some reason is protecting James and Chelsia I heard a snippet of conversation between Chelsia, James, and one other person (I can't remember who it was). Chelsia was basically telling that person that if you just went at it, nude, on top of the covers, they couldn't show it. Since the cameras cut away from them when they start up, I wonder if that's why.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:26 pm
I actually don't think James was trying to protect his position. I think James does care for Chelsia on a personal level and he doesn't like the pressure cooker of the house getting to her. He did tell her that her actions would affect him and those left in the house, but I think that is because she was so ramped up that he was trying to say, hey if you wont do it for yourself, do it for me... trying to get her to stop doing something that she will later regret, and trying the only way he knew how...
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:27 pm
I should rephrase that, Natalie had something coming, and it could have been worse, BB put a stop to some of it.
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Gigi
Member
07-22-2005
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:27 pm
the second that i think that one of these houseguests is even slightly open-minded, i watch their mind close up before my very eyes. i can not swallow all of the judgment.
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Skylar47
Member
08-24-2004
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:29 pm
James was encouraging Chelsia the night he threw threw the Pickle juice..In my eyes hes jut trying to protect himself..Yes he likes Chelsia but lets not forget that he has thrown her under the bus twice...Hes all about the game! No gentleman would EVER throw anything on a woman or says some of the things he has said..
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Victoryrm
Member
09-20-2007
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:29 pm
What I've never understood is the willingness of HG's to jump into bed (in Nat/Matt's case- the bathroom or SR?) with total strangers and have some form of sexual contact straight off the bat. I confess I once watched Paradise Island and they did the same thing. Amazing.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:29 pm
I said this earlier, but James is so confusing. He stands there smiling when the badgering is happening, but then later tells Chelisa to apologize to Natalie b/c she has had a rough week, that he feels bad for her, etc. If he felt so bad for her, why did he not step up and tell Chelsia to shut it. It's weird to me how he show glimpses of a kind, caring person and then things like picklegate happens. I just don't know what to think of him.
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Muffin
Member
08-29-2007
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:30 pm
We know that James is used to having sex in front of other people, but obviously Chelsia also doesn't mind that she is being watched by the camera men.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:31 pm
I think the ONLY reason James was well behaved was that it served his best interest in personal advancement. He knew this could have reflected badly on him, so he tried to separate himself from it. I can't respect him for what I feel is 100% a game move. ETA; I think he does like Chelsia, but not at the cost of his BB game! He can separate the 2 easily. Also I noticed she has made several comments about how insane it was to really meet someone in the house and how she never would have believed it, and he said nothing in return. I say his eye is on his game and nothing is making him lose sight of it.
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