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Bbnine
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02-16-2008
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 6:54 am
postes at Jokers: According to a friend of mine at CBS NY Legal Affaris the whole network is in trouble of loosing their yearly top ratings slot, which of course affects the higher rates CBS is able to charges their advertisers. In a speech yesterday to his TV industry colleagues, Mr. <Moonves> , the President of CBS, concedes CBS will loose the top rated network slot this year, although he humorously attributes that ‘bad news’ to the monster he calls “American Idol”. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080314/tv_nm/moonves_dc_1 Truth is, none of the emergency replacement shows initiated to deal with the fallout of the Writer’s Strike or the schedule re-runs they have to air until new episodic installments are ready in April, has worked out all that well as far as ratings go. In fact, most of the replacement shows, to put it kindly, have been a disaster and a drain, most especially BB9 who is on the bottom of that list. Further, according to my source, Grodner has been told in no uncertain terms to get busy immediately doing some "damage control" and to clean up the BB act, which is not only devaluing BB franchise, CBS’s good reputation but is helping to hurt theis year’s rating problems. Not only did Wednesday night’s foul language incident on live TV set off alarm bells in the CBS legal affairs department, (CBS/General Electric is also facing a potential minimum $500,000 fine – shades of the Janet Jackson’s costume malfunction Super Bowl incident), the unusually large amount of negative mail and telephone calls CBS/General Electric has been getting concerning the “sleaze factor” of this year’s BB9 show and cast members has been unprecedented. Since the “dollar” trumps any other consideration at CBS/General Electric, Grodner has to somehow figure out a way “to put lipstick on that damn pig” as one senior CBS executive put it, “get her ratings up” or “go off the air”. According to my source, CBS has that power. Apparently each of the BB house guest’s contracts has a “force major”, no-fault provision clause to cover CBS and Endemol Productions legally in the event that were to happen. <76>
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 7:06 am
I also think losing some MAJOR sponsors such as Lowe's has been a major factor. Lowe's pulled out after the Adam comments and also in light of James's past "videos" coming out and said they did "not support those kind of statements and behaviors." There are also other sponsors who yanked following Lowe's actions. Even more than the so-called public, the all-mighty sponsor dollars talk. FIRE Allison and let us enjoy the show we used to enjoy so much. I am sick to death of these wanna be movie stars and now we are scraping the bottom with wanna be porn stars.
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Blair
Member
07-28-2005
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 7:42 am
This is good news! "America to Allison Grodner, this is NOT what we want!" Maybe...just maybe the next Big Brother will be an improvement. If not, BB deserves to have the plug pulled on it. The past two seasons have ruined it for me. I no longer get the live feeds and could care less if I miss an episode. Yet, I keep coming back season after season hoping for the good old days.}}
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 7:48 am
I watched Wednesday's eviction show live and did not hear James cuss. Exactly what did I miss? All I heard him say was he would crap his pants if he were allowed back in the house (paraphrasing, but "crap" was the word I thought I heard) Oh and PS I think foul language is the least of the problems with BB9, even though I like the show myself.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 7:51 am
Who/what is GA?
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 7:54 am
Julie, I think they meant AG/Allison Grodner and it's a typo.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 7:56 am
Okay, that makes more sense... I didn't see/hear any swear words on Wed's show either...
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 7:59 am
Interesting Bbnine....when I clicked your link the story was quite different from what you have posted and not about Big Brother at all. Is most of your post someone at Jokers opinion or is there some facts involved?
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:01 am
at the end of the show, when they were all on the disco ball thing, Natalie says "I've never been on a disco ball before", then James says to someone "if you eff me like that again..you know what I'm saying?" the video is at jokers, and I just replayed my recording and heard it too
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Bbnine
Member
02-16-2008
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:04 am
Bo .... sorry, i only posted what was on jokers .... just assume that the story was same as link. That story is about the "inside" info on what really happend.... I do beleive it... I'm so sure CBS has recieved many complaints to this season show..... being it is way way SLEAZIOR than other shows. especially after reading the latest interv with Jessica ... how she and others girls always showered in swim suits and non of this sleazy stuff .... the pool orgys the sex and etc went on in her season. This house to me is way out of control even for BB Even most of these hg's have very questionable pasts ... jmo
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:06 am
We can only hope that AG loses her job after this mess. Ever since she became involved the twists have become increasing more lame every year. As Ex. Producer she has sacrificed the game and entertainment value of the show in order to shove her lame twists down our throats. She casts the show with people who fit into the twist not people who are entertaining or even ready and able to play the game. I’m sure that on paper these twists looked good but this is reality TV and people do not always act the way you expect. Speaking of the twists, has there been one twist in the last 6 years that did not involve people that knew each other before entering the house?
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:08 am
Ya, but that was well after Julie got on James' hiney about cussing. First she reprimanded him on "crap", then she asked him a question when they first started on the disco balls followed by a quick "keep it clean." I'm pretty sure the network problems with this casts' language and whatnot were already visited upon Julie Chen before Wednesday night's show, and she was given the warning to make sure that nothing offensive slipped through, so she took the proactive approach even though James hadn't done much to deserve it (only after that fact, and I'm thinking he probably thought they were off mike with the show over). I think its a bit disingenuous to hire a cast based upon their crude personalities and then tell them to can their crude personalities for the duration of the show. PS ya if I said crap as a kid my parents would have smacked my mouth, but as an adult I don't consider crap anything of an offensive word. I actually find it humorously inoffensive.
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:18 am
Crap was mild compared to the F-bomb that was dropped while they were in the HOH endurance comp.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:20 am
last live show At about 1:42 James says "if you f@ck me like that again" and it made it through on the East Coast broadcast. CBS gets fined for things like that.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:22 am
My point, Caprica and Bonbonlover, was Julie was losing her mind BEFORE that over James keeping it clean, when he hadn't done anything to that point to warrant it. I do think they probably thought the show was over at that point. Nonetheless, if they can't control the crude cast that they put together, they should just do away with the live shows or put them on five minute delay so they can edit. Edited because I wrote before I thought - 1:42 in the live show? What was going on on the show at that point, was it when they just got on the balls?
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:26 am
Julie reprimanded James twice during the live show. I'm sure that's why they got the letter. Will got reprimanded for calling her "sweetheart". Does General Electric have something to do with CBS??
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:28 am
Oh...and my favorite part of the letter: they're not allowed to say nut sack anymore.
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Oregonguy
Member
02-12-2006
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:31 am
The problem with AG is that she doesnt understand what her demographics want. She basically cas this show for the MTV generation, like a road rules/real world challenge. She needs to remember that she is on network tv and there is a higher standard (fcc) and people expect as much. also this show and cBS usually have a higher age demographic. i remember a couple of years ago in TVCH we did a "whats your age" and me being mid 30's there was only a couple of people younger in here than me. most of us our age and above actually have some decency and some old fashioned values. Take a look at the ratings this year, usually the are 3rd or 4th for their time slot. also look at how many people are posting in here as opposed to other seasons. there is ways less posters for this year. it used to be on a big show night or something big happening on the live feeds that you could barely keep up on the screen. you couldnt refresh fast enough at times. AG needs to clean it up and remember there is a line she needs to adhere to.
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:32 am
I totally missed the f-bomb and I'm on Eastern time.. perhaps its just because I'm so used to them talking that way. It's a good sign, I think, that AG is in enough trouble to warrant her sending a note to the HGs (I highly doubt she would do that on her own). I hope this is a sign of better things to come next season.
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Bbnine
Member
02-16-2008
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:36 am
whats really funny is that these HG's ...(josh, chelsie) said they think this winter BB will have such high ratings that they will probably keep the winter each year. They aslo said they think they will have better ratings than BB8. can't wait till they get out and realize that they have the worst ratings in BB history! At least I "think" it does. lol
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:36 am
He F-bombed twice. Once when popping out of the box...once when hanging on the ball.
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Gonzilly
Member
07-09-2005
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:45 am
Beekind, General Electric owns NBC, or at least they used to, and CBS used to be owned by Westinghouse. I can't find any recent information if any of this has changed.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:46 am
Yeah, thanks, Gonz...I thought Viacom owned CBS. That's why I don't get what General Electric has to do with it.
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Needmylifeback
Member
08-14-2000
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:50 am
O.K.. this might be good.... cancel the show ... but leave them in the house for the remaining time... leave live feeds on as well as BBAD ... have the evictions... and as each and every one leaves the house .. say "good-bye" ..no interview the next day... no sequester.. no jury .. no vote ... nobody deserves to win ..then when down to the final two ... tell them... the show has been off the air for over a month... all that they "win" is their stipend....
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:55 am
I totally missed both f-bombs and I'm on eastern time. And I'm not used to it because I don't have the live feeds.
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