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Mama2oliviamae
Member
08-16-2006
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 6:09 am
I wanted to start this thread because I am so shocked at the heavy editing BB is doing this year. IMO, it's more than any other season. I should start by saying that I am a James fan. However, I cannot believe how heavily edited James and Chelsia (maybe even Josh, too) are. They never showed Picklegate or any other controversial things they have done but they're quick to point out Natalie's foolish infatuation with Matt and some may say they poke fun at her. (And I say that even as a Natalie anti-fan.) Of course, I realize editing is part of the show but even last year when many claimed ED & Dainelle as the producers "favorite", they showed his rants and often cruel behavior to others. Ditto with Howie; he was a "producer favorite" and they showed him in a poor light when he was behaving inappropriately. Why do you think the editing is so inaccurate this year? Do you feel like it's more so than other years?
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 6:28 am
I think it's because this group is genuinely unlikable, and doing really nasty things. As a LFW I reached a point awhile back where I was rooting in reverse, not so much for anyone but against those I can't stand the most. I think BB hit bad press early on, lost sponsors over Adam's live bad behavior, groups were outraged, then they got bad press about James and Josh and have been trying to put the best possible spin on this group. I don't care for it either, and think folks just watching the TV should would be shocked to see what they have been missing!
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 7:27 am
Heavy editing this year. TV only watchers have little clue as to what all goes on in that house. Think about the difference btw the TV Chelsea and the in the house Chelse...world of difference. And what was the purpose of going to the bottom of the barrel for these HG in order to have all this sleaze going on in the house when almost NONE of it is addressed in the TV show? Tons of sex in the house this year, not mentioned on the TV show....so what was the purpose of getting HG that would be so FREE in front of the cameras??? Tons of crazy rants and fights in the house not mentioned on the TV show....again what was the purpose of this? TPTB have definetly sunk to new lows this year with their premises of till death do you part, soulmates, forcing them to sleep together, the sauna/massage room, seperating the rooms/beds like mini apartment areas....all to encourage sexual romps....to what purpose? It is not a part of the TV show! Reminds me of last year when they made the HG get naked for a competition....there was no purpose for the HG to get naked...it could not be shown on TV, they could have worn bikinis and had the same outcome...the only reason for the HG to get naked was to please and entertain TPTB in production. That is the only purpose I can see for the atmosphere they created in the house this year cause they are not using it as part of the TV show in any major way so it can only be for their (BB production) own enjoyment. SICK!
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Costacat
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07-15-2000
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 7:46 am
I agree with Lurk... the really bad press the first week with Adam's comments and advertisers pulling have probably made the producers seriously "gun shy." There is no need to show the bad behaviors on primetime television, just as there is no need to show any of the sex on primetime TV. As far as the bottom of the barrel, I really believe that there are just not that many people "applying" to be on this show. While I wasn't sure about the original "till death do you part" bit, I actually liked the IDEA of the twist. Unfortunately, you ended up with a besotted Natalie, a player Matt, a bickering Sheila/Adam, and then there were the ex couple and the real couple.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 8:06 am
I think the "real bad press" is a figment of wishful thinking. Last year there was all this "bad press" with women's groups up in arms over Dick's behavior and the uproar over Amber's comments...yet they bring Dick back this year like a trophy and even do a segment on him and Danielle...no shying away from the "bad press" no change in behavior because of "bad press"...after last year...look at who they chose to go into the house this year...even worse, as a whole.
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Bigsister
Member
09-02-2001
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 8:24 am
Did anybody notice the commercial on last night's BB show which asked for applicants to be on the next Big Brother? It was just a quickie commercial, probably about 10 seconds, but it showed a couple of scenes from Big Brother which looked like orgies going on. BB chose to use scenes of wild behavior when advertising for recruits for the show. What does that tell you?
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 8:30 am
Last year's "bad press" didn't result in advertisers pulling out from the show. A huge difference when money talks.
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Landileigh
Member
07-29-2002
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 8:51 am
also dick wasn't brought back as a "trophy", he WAS the WINNER of last year's BB! and he and Danielle were #1 and #2 last year. they have always showed the segments of "where the winners are now" and how it affected them by winning.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 8:52 am
The only advertiser supposedly to pull out was Lowe's and even they admitted that they never advertised on that show but on CBS. And they didn't pull their ads from CBS because I just saw a boatload of them this weekend while watching basketball.
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Muffin
Member
08-29-2007
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 9:05 am
Let me say, I can't stand Chelsia and I think her behavior is cruel and disgusting, however, if they did show her rants, it would be constantly beeped out, and the rants were directed at Natalie and her abortions, which in my opinion, should not be announced on national tv. They might not have shown those rants, more to protect Natalie than to protect Chelsia.
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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 2:40 pm
It seems like this thread shows up every season. CBS airs not quite 3 hours of BB a week. For the BB HGs, they are there 168 hours a week. So, hmm, I do believe that it'd be pretty tough to show "the complete story." There were complaints that Eddie from BB1 was shown too favorably; that Nicole from BB2 wasn't shown to have practically gone insane; that Roddy and Ciara from BB3 weren't truly shown; that Erika from BB4 wasn't shown making a disparaging comment about Asians, and Allison and Jun weren't shown to be as nasty as the live feeders saw them; Drew from BB5 was portrayed as a heart throb and wasn't shown to be as duplicitous as he was; the "friendship" wasn't shown in all of their nastiness, especially Maggie and Ivette; and ED wasn't shown making all of his heinous comments and was shown more as foible than a miscreant. As far as pickle gate goes, I still contend that CBS did the right thing in not showing it. What purpose would it serve? It didn't have an impact on how the game played out that week, nor since. Last year when ED dumped iced tea on Jen, it had a real impact and lead to her current boyfriend (how hard is THAT to believe) Nick attacking her verbally. CBS probably decided to not show it as maybe showing it 2 seasons in a row could be seen as endorsing that behavior. The live feeders get the most reasonably accurate view of the HG and how they behave in the house, but even then, not all of the HGs are on the live feed at all times, and we don't get to hear their take on the house happenings inside the DR other than what CBS shows us. CBS is not obligated to show us ever wart or wrinkle that each HG has. What purpose would it be to Chelsia and her family to show every nasty thing that she's said or done? Or Josh? Or Sheila? Or Natalie? Or James? They show what they can that makes sense to whatever "storyline" is going on unless and until things in the house change that storyline. I really don't let the editing get to me, I really crossed that bridge with BB6 and find that I enjoy the show more and get ticked off less because of just letting it go and understanding the rationale behind what CBS does or doesn't do. For me, the CBS shows are just a restricted summary of events in the house, with a peak into the DR to augment how I think or feel about a HG. BB isn't "viewer's vote" like it was in BB1, so the selective editing really has little bearing on the outcome, so why demonize these people to their friends, family and the world who, outside of that environment, may be somewhat different people...at least one would hope.
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 2:40 pm
Big Brother has typically been edited as a comedy more than a strategic game. Most of this foul behavior would turn viewers off not on and it would be hard to give it a comical spin.
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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 2:50 pm
Exactly. I'm not trying to give CBS a pass, but really, what are they supposed to do? It's an entertainment show from the entertainment division of CBS, not a news show from the news division. The show is meant to entertain us to keep us watching, not show every pimple being popped.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 2:52 pm
I'm wondering if one of the reasons it's edited so very much is because of the language and the topics of conversations this group goes through. I think some of the houseguests know this and amp their language up even more (or maybe this is the way they speak in real life). When all you hear is a string of "bleeps", it's not making good television.
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Jushvnfn
Member
07-29-2006
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 2:56 pm
IMO All of this was done for Showtime.
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Swimsuit_model
Member
07-27-2005
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 3:12 pm
I agree Darclyte. CBS edits what fits in a storyline. If you think they have not been showing the true Chelsia, it's because she hasn't done any action yet that really affects the house to the point where it should be on the TV show. Finally she has done something, her fight with Natalie, that will make the TV show because it is love triangle, it is bitterness within the game, it is a cat fight. But people are always mad when they feel like someone they dont like is not being exposed for all the mean things they say. That's not worth being on TV! It's a one hour show, and unless there's a confrontation that has a direct impact on or results from the the game, or unless there's a showmance, or a comedic relief, there's no point to edit just anything into a 1 hour show, and half the show is editing in the competitions and ceremonies as well. I agree this thread shows up every year.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 3:23 pm
Maybe it's edited so much because it's scripted so much? It's gone a complete 180 since the days of BB1, where there wasn't a lot of editing and both the HGs and viewers were a lot more naive.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 4:03 pm
I agree with those saying it's meant for Showtime... the kinky stuff anyway. This is why they are looking for this type of people... I saw their promo for the summer edition and I heard ''' are you OUTRAGEOUS?? and so on..." so, you need to be outrageous to be on this show, but that's no longer for the tv show (Dick and this crowd killed the fun for many of us) but for their Showtime and they need an audience for that channel. Also, they need an internet audience, they want people to watch the Live Feeds and they leave the kinky stuff for that audience and they know that YouTube is airing a lot of that, they try to have those clips removed but they've got to be quick because I still manage to see them and then I see they're removed later or some other geek managed to air them some other way. So, definitely the tv show is edited for the faint of heart like me, I could close an eye when it's on YouTube but I feel embarrassed to see it on the tv show (like the Dick show last time) and so I don't mind a bit if it's heavily edited this time. Sure, last tv show was a boring one but still bearable.
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Lostintheglades
Member
07-10-2000
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 10:36 pm
I have been and will always be a BB fan. My family doesn't understand it so I am still in the closet. I've also always had the LF's and I just can't imagine watching it any other way. I mean, that's the point right? So that we can watch them 24/7 give or take for the ever increasing amount of flames. Although I have to say, it actually seems like there have been less FOTH interference than in some seasons past. Therefore, I can only say that it's sad that CBS edits things but it has never affected me because I am either watching or catching up through the kind folks here who use their "precious" personal time to post keep me updated....(Thank you LFP'ers...you're the best.) I honestly am enjoying this season <24> and from one day to the next I honestly can who is "really" with who, if they're playing a role or if that is their "real" character. My favorite player has changed daily this season and sometimes they just amaze me that they can keep their stories straight. I don't think that without the LF's or at least reading the LF posts and watching the posted stream captures which are also greatly appreciated, BB is a totally different show if you only watch it on CBS so I don't pay any attention to the favoritism shown or the HG's actions that are omitted, I fast forward to watch the food comps and POV comps that they no longer let us watch on the LF"S and then remain glued to the "real" stuff and what really goes on. It's like watching a wreck. As for the kinky stuff???;.....just like the TV.. I can turn it off or watch a different cam. (If it's Sheila....I turn off the sound only because she's repetitive so after 3 minutes you have the whole story anyway. I just feel bad for the "TV show only" fans who have no idea what the real story is.
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Victoryrm
Member
09-20-2007
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 11:04 pm
They use to say the same type of things about the Donatos and Jameks's church music which I thought was hysterical.
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