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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 10:15 am
Because the precedent was set during Howie's BB stint and reinforced with Dick last year. We don't know how they feel in real life, but on Big Brother they've been taught it is acceptable. The first thing Chelsia said after James threw the pickle was that it's ok, Dick did it last year. My feeling is the only way they could stop that way of thinking is to lay it out in their contracts next time.
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:51 am
Klaw is right, they did not show the pickle juice incident but did not hesitate to show Dick's tea incident. I think that what James did was far worse than what Dick did, and CBS realized this was over the top. I really wish something would have been done regarding this because it was truly unfair.
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 12:15 pm
It is quite obvious to me that Allison Grodner LOVES James and she doesn't want him edited truthfully because the public may decide they don't like him anymore...and she loves the "free-spirited bicycler" storyline, just like she liked the Dad & daughter storyline last year.... I HOPE someone makes Grodner stop tampering with the game and the edits and let the HGs PLAY the GAME like it was intended.... ARNOLD SHAPIRO WHERE ARE YOU???????
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 12:31 pm
I thought the pickle juice incident was funny. I want to see the incident on the show so I can finally see how/where the pickle juice hit Natalie and her initial reaction. The youtube videos I've seen only show James throwing the pickle juice. I find it interesting that Adam and Ryan didn't react after the incident whereas Matt and Chelsia were both very vocal about it albeit with different reactions.
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Oaktree
Member
03-16-2008
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 12:34 pm
Never been a fan of "gate" being added to events or controversies.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-22-2003
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 1:14 pm
I never saw the pickle juice incident from that angle....James was much more forceful than I thought.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:25 pm
I've got to say that I was really disappointed the pickle incident wasn't shown on the show...especially since I saw a commercial in which Natalie is shown in the DR saying "I was attacked" and a snippet of Josh tossing his water on her was shown. After seeing that commercial, I was sure at least some of it would be shown. Now, of course, it is long past the timeline and I can't imagine them showing it now. Disappointing, to say the least.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-22-2003
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:29 pm
It is odd they didn't show it, you would think they would for the 'drama'. I wonder why they didn't?
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:33 pm
Miz...my personal belief is that they are protecting James. It wouldn't be good to show it in light of the fact that he just made it back into the house and then became HOH.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-22-2003
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:34 pm
So that people wouldn't be outraged and start writing letters to CBS? What's the old saying? "Bad publicity is better than no publicity" (For Hollywood.)
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:40 pm
Oh, they've gotten their share of bad publicity this year. lol
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-22-2003
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:46 pm
Yes, they most certainly have but the way they were going I'm surprised they wouldn't just add to it. lol
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:48 pm
LOL! For sure. Keep it coming, keep it in the news. You're right...they really should have shown it, if only for the great controversy it would have caused.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:48 pm
I think the thing that irritated me the most is Chelsia's fake laugh after James threw the pickle juice. I wonder how funny she would have thought it was if Matt threw something on her. She would have probably hit him and went out the door. I really wish Nat would have waited till James was asleep and the dumped some mustard on him, something, do something. She still could pay him back for that and I hope she does.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-22-2003
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:52 pm
Totally Denecee!! I couldn't stand her 'cackling' after the pickle incident. Nat isn't into revenge, she is too forgiving and nice.
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:56 pm
If they would cast more people that actually have personalities they would not have to invent story lines for the show.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:56 pm
She has been very forgiving. I wish it would dawn on her that she could pour something or toss something on James AND Josh and get away with. Do it just to irritate them. What a fun way to throw THEM off their game. Why do the HGs never think of all the brilliant things we think of?? lol
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Bbnine
Member
02-16-2008
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 3:07 pm
The way I see it ..... and this is JMO: These guys J/C/J will come out of this house and be treated as fair as the NH from S6...... I think they will be so disliked that they will need security. Josh thinks he is going to be the new "underware model" him being a bit to chunky will not even be the reason he won't get that job. . .amongst his talk show and acting gigs he thinks is coming his way .. James .... truley if he thinks this is going to give him "good" exposure for his Lame biking around the world .... I think he will be very surprised of the bad outcome he will get Chelsie .... I do not know what she wants..... but she will be just as disliked as maggie! These people will NOT be getting anything good when they leave this house..... big joke will be on them. I think these guys will be EXTREMELY shocked and I can't wait to see it all explode in there smug little faces.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 3:34 pm
I don't think it will compare to Maggie's group. These guys don't expect to go back to "normal" lives like nursing. James will go on being James and being "crazy", just more people will recognise him. Has Chelsia said she wants to stay in the public eye? Her bio says she intends to do a year in Germany starting in September - I can't see how the BB house is going to affect that. I agree that Josh has big expectations which probably won't come to anything. Can't see him being hated though - disliked by some or even many, maybe, but not hated. There's no one in the house to pull for, so I don't see how the feelings will be that strong. Season 6 had us feeling so strongly because people liked Janelle so much and Maggie both acted in a way that was bad and acted towards Janelle, the one we liked the most. These guys mostly behave as badly as each other. I think at the end of BB they'll all go back to more or less their normal lives, little problems and little rewards. Except for maybe Adam and the fall out from his comment.
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Bbnine
Member
02-16-2008
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 3:48 pm
I agree that Josh has big expectations which probably won't come to anything. Can't see him being hated though - disliked by some or even many, maybe, but not hated. just wanted to make note for the record .. . i never said the word HATED.... i used the word DISLIKE 
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 4:41 pm
My bad, BBnine. Your "so disliked they will need security" translated to me as a lot stronger than my understanding and use of the word disliked and I must have morphed the phrase in my head into "hated." My version of dislike is that people won't care much for them and will just move on, rather than feel any need to attack them, requiring security.
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 4:52 pm
Well...Bbnine.....I have been a BB fan from DAY 1 and I totaly agree with YOU!
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 5:06 pm
No one outside of people who post on BB message boards actually cares about what happens to BB contestants after their season has ended. I'm sure most ex-hgs return to their every day life without much drama.
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 5:15 pm
Well Chere, I heard that Maggie was so hated as one of the Nerd Herd, that she almost had to go into hiding in Vegas when she went back home...There was talk that Maggie was harassed for quite a while afterwards..... And Yvette said she was criticised and thought badly of because of her behavior on BB....so, I am sure it DOES make some impact on your life afterwards.....look at Adam...he has been FIRED and doesn't even KNOW it yet.....
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Bbnine
Member
02-16-2008
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 5:30 pm
That is exactly what I was talking about Cay .... I also heard about what thos NH people had gone through. and I truley think J/C/J have acted far worse than the NH did. j/c/j have taking trash talk to a whole new level by digging into the really personal stuff..... abotions, suicide. etc etc etc .....and lauphing about it. very disturbing
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 9:33 pm
I liked Maggie. It was Janelle I couldn't stand.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 9:41 pm
vice versa for me
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 3:39 am
Me too, Denecee....
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Bbnine
Member
02-16-2008
| Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 8:39 am
James laughing that he threw pickle juice on Natalie and that she still voted him back in, he says these people are so stupid nice ..... he still thinks what he did was "funny" what a STAND UP guy ..
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 9:01 am
I think in the long run, Natalie's own actions and delusions over Matt will hurt her much more than a little pickle juice did. I pretty much dislike everyone in the house. I know that I'm probably in the minority, but some of the things Natalie has admitted to doing in the past and her lack of respect for herself in the house disturbs me just as much as the "picklegate" mess. It seems to me that most of these people have some serious issues.
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