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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother IX- 2008 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 9 - Part 5: Julie Chen - Allison Grodner: Archive through March 22, 2008 users admin

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Lorry
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08-05-2007

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lorry a private message Print Post    
First I would like to mention Julie Chen. She is married to the president of CBS and also on the Morning Show. She is a TV reporter. Certainly not in the ranks of a Barbara Walters or some of the other talented female personalities, but she's ok. She'll always have a job. But aside from her lukewarm talents, I have to admit she does have class and is respected in the industry. She is a lady and very professional.

Now, we go to A. Grodner, I don't know where to start. <77> She has brought this show down to a new low. Last year, she LOVED Dick, created his win and is still obsessed with him. He is given whatever favor he wants as far as the show is concerned. He comes and goes on the set at will. She, also, is trying to develop a TV show for him. OK, now this year, her pet is James, <77> Of course, we know where that is going. Even Dick, on the show last night, apparently picked James as his favorite. "Birds of a Feather"

Back to Julie, I can see that she no longer is excited at being host of this trash. You can tell by her actions. Her final interviews are short. She is very annoyed with these people. Has corrected them a few times on air. I'm sure she is aware of the trash that is being shown on Showtime and the feeds (orgies, etc.) This probably does not set too well with her. It brings her down to their level. I would think or maybe I should say, I would hope that she puts some of her influence on her husband to get rid of AG and bring some enjoyment back to this show.
If this can't be done, I can see her leaving as host next year. This cannot be good for her career, even if her husband is president. Let them have Dick host the show, if they want it to continue and put it on cable and let CBS disassociate itself from it. The sponsors are telling them loud and clear. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!
Even Moonvas had to pull the reins in on AG to keep these people under control or else. Oh well, we'll see what happens.

Mama2oliviamae
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08-16-2006

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mama2oliviamae a private message Print Post    
ITA (except the James part - I am a James lover).

I believe this will be AG's last year as ANYTHING to do with BB. If, for some reason, she cannot be ousted (perhaps contract reasons or other issues such as having stock in the BB name, etc), I think CBS should do away with BB. (Although, we already know they're signed up for BB10 this summer.)

Perhaps a cable network such as Showtime should pick it up. Then it would expected to be sleezy (not saying Showtime is sleezy, just saying it wouldn't be as shocking). Then, they wouldn't have to worry about sponsors and such.

I am looking forward to BB10 and hope it is completely without AG. She has brought <77> shame to the BB name and game.

Just my

Erinbear
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08-05-2005

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Erinbear a private message Print Post    
Dick comes and goes from the set at will?? AG created his win and is obsessed with him?? This year James is her favorite??

are these statements of fact or opinion??

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 8:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
obviously opinion based on facts.

I have read that Dick was allowed to compete? and received a reward for being on the POV today.

Bribery? Why is Dick special that he gets preferential treatment?

Anyways, Of course AG wants to make a reality show around Dick. He is a walking trainwreck IMHO. His family life appears to be just as mixed up and pathetic as it was when he was put into the house to play the role of repentant father.

As for James, so he does porn! AG does "Family Business" which follows the anal sex mogul Seymore Butts and his family.

James may get his own show as well. He seems to be basically harmless imho.

Dick's show I'd never watch. A wannabee doesnt appeal to me. James is a success in whatever he seems to do.

Erinbear
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08-05-2005

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Erinbear a private message Print Post    
actually its not obvious at all, I see no facts to back up those statements...

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
What preferential treatment is Dick getting?

I thought he was back to host the POV because he was such a fan favorite. I know there were many who disliked him, but there were so many more who did like him. They've also brought back Janelle, Eric, Jessica and some others for challenges before. I don't get why it's being said Dick is getting some kind of special treatment.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 8:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
and what Prizes did they win during the POV?

I heard something about an amp and Lear? guitar

unless the HGs are just talking about gibberish

Lorry
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08-05-2007

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lorry a private message Print Post    
Erinbear, some of it is fact and some are my opinions. Dick does have special favor at CBS. He has said it on HC and in various interviews. He is cocky about it. He just won a guitar last night and he is not even on the show. This is the first time a past HG was given anything after the show.
We can agree to disagree. I just feel that AG has ruined the show and that Julie Chen should call it a day. Again, it's just my opinion.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 8:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I agree with you Lorry!

Erinbear
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08-05-2005

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Erinbear a private message Print Post    
thanks for clarifying that its your opinion..your initial post came across as if you were stating actual facts.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 8:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
some of it is fact and some are my opinions

Which is the fact part, please? I'd like to give my opinion on the facts. lol

And Les' last name is spelled Moonves.

Lorry
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08-05-2007

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lorry a private message Print Post    
Bee, love your posts!! You keep me laughing every night. Sorry about the spelling!! LOL
You get my drift!
Fact - opinion! Fact - opinion!
Let me check my Bible on that one!! LOL

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 9:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Exactly Bee! Which part is fact and where is the proof of those facts?

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 6:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
Opinions - Facts - Opinions....it's all in who you like. And we all know everyone has one....opinion that is..hahaha

I totally agree with you Lorry. AG has got to go. If Julie was smart she would step down as Host and give it to ED as this show is right up his alley. It truly has gone in the gutter which is sad because it started out to be a great show. Then again, this is right up a lot of people's alley to agree with AG on the smut she puts up there.

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
Last year when Janelle was helping with a comp, many here were upset when they thought Janelle showed a bias towards Dick, and a dislike towards Eric - whether she actually did or not is one's own opinion - but she did say later that she was told to treat everyone equally

now to Dick this season - by the way they're talking on the feeds, Dick made his views known about almost all of them

so I would say that example there shows favouritism by AG...either that, or it shows that Dick doesn't listen to instructions very well

Lorry
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08-05-2007

Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 7:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lorry a private message Print Post    
Thank you all for responding. I have some really strong dislikes for the way this show is going. My main point of this post was to understand why Julie Chen would associate herself with this trash. As one poster said, it's opinion based on some fact. Thanks again for you input.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
I don't understand..if you are so unhappy with the show and don't enjoy where it's heading then why do you continue to watch? I mean in reality it's a simple solution..wash your hands of BB and find another show.

Bbnine
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02-16-2008

Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 8:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnine a private message Print Post    
James may get his own show as well. He seems to be basically harmless imho.

Dick's show I'd never watch. A wannabee doesnt appeal to me. James is a success in whatever he seems to do.

How Is Dick a wannabee and James isn't?

I truley believe Dick has a bigger fan base than James.....
The difference is Dick DIDN'T bring an orgy of sleaze to season 8.
and noone knows if James will be successfull at anything .... he hasn't exactly been successful before BB. He might get a big ole fat Porn movie deal after this ...... that is about it. He may even get himself investigated by the irs for all his talk of not paying taxes .... big red flag for him.

As for Julie .... BB9 IMO is tarnishing her rep. She is much better than this show ... and it is James and his crew that has "sunk" this show into the new all time low it is today along with AG

It sure wasn't Dick that brought this season down. Dick was a guest on BB9 to host a contest .... you don't even know for sure if he won a prize or not .... and if he did win ..... it wasn't HIS doing to compete fro prizes ... that would be AG that decdied how the contest will go .... not Dick. jmo

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
It always seems that a vast majority of posts on this and other sites are opinions that are presented as facts.

ED may have a favored status at CBS, but he did win BB8, and is very popular with the BB audience, which is why he sits in on house calls every week.
If nobody gave about him, you'd probably never see or hear from him again. But, he is both popular and hated, both of which means that there is interest in him.

You'll most likely never see Maggie from BB6 ever again as she seems to be mostly disliked by the majority of the BB community, and since the crap she said in the house affected her life outside the house, she appears to have disassociated herself from CBS/BB altogether. I don't think that they even did a "where are they now" segment on her during Season 7 (All Stars.)

As for Julie Chen, I think many viewers have noticed that she seems FAR more in touch with this season than ever. Or at the very least, they are preparing her much better. She has asked some very pointed questions to the HGs whether they've just been evicted, in the HOH room, or just sitting on the couches. If the problems of this season cause her to bow out of the next season, I wouldn't be surprised, but she appears to be in this season for the long haul, and FINALLY has been asking the tough questions.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 1:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
I don't think that the reason we keep seeing Dick is because he was more popular than other past HG's or because AG loved him so much.I think that he and Daniele just want more face time on TV.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 2:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Lorry, I agree with the first part of your main post. I see the change in Julie too, and don't blame her. One thing I've heard Julie say in many interviews is that she really is a fan of the show, and I remember being surprised at how knowledgable she was about it when discussing gameplay and HG strategies etc.

So I would think like any fan she doesn't like the Springeresque direction of the show, and she has even more reason to hate it given how they talk over her when on air, show no respect, and the last couple seasons plot ways to ruffle her feathers or act out on air, no matter what the DR is telling them.

I do think there is a better solution than giving the show over to ED (even though he does amuse me most of the time). I say an entirely new production and casting crew and breath some fresh, better quality air into BB.

One last comment...I don't think Dick so much likes James as he likes the fact that James is actually playing the game, unlike many others in there. He virtually said as much.

Oh one more...for me Angelic I am disappointed in not having a single HG I truly like or can root for, only those I hate more than others. But I still love BB, the concept of the feeds etc, and of course the boards. I want them to fix what they are breaking rather than me tune out. That's my reason for criticism.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 2:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    


How Is Dick a wannabee and James isn't?

Dick constantly namedropped and was pitching for a tv show while he was on BB. Dick seemed to be feeling unfulfilled and looking for more.

James, on the other hand, seems to take what life hands him and makes it work. His own business? at his age? Travelling footloose and fancyfree with people donating time and funds?

James IS a success in that aspect. He owns his life and seems happy in it.

ED looked miserable in his BB TV show blurb. There is no doubt in my mind BB producers had to give ED incentive to do the POV comp. Otherwise it would have been too lame.

Anyways, alllllll my opinion based on the Facts that were observed, personalities observed etc.

but..... we all know factual Observations can also be biased.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 2:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
There is no doubt in my mind BB producers had to give ED incentive to do the POV comp.

I would imagine he was paid to make his appearance on BB. I know Janelle was, so I'm sure Dick was, too.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
and all EX HGs were given opportunities to win prizes when they came back for Comps?? NONE of the other HGs other than DICK were given that perk.

I was clear in my post.

Bbnine
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02-16-2008

Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnine a private message Print Post    
His own business? at his age? Travelling footloose and fancyfree with people donating time and funds?

His business was shut down for shady dealings.....
who was he donating his time to? nobody but himself...LOL

What funds did he donate and to who? he isn't raiseing money for any charity or making donatins to anyone or any type of cause or charity..... he is the only person here benefiting, by getting things for FREE .....free bike, free clothes he even brags about it...now if American apparel was donating the clothes or money on his behalf to a cause ... that would make sense ....
but ONLY james is getting anything from this.
He brags about scaming senior citisens out of there hard earned money ........ wth .. how can one be proud of that!

I wouldn't mind his "biking around the world" thing if he was doing something GOOD with it .... like raising money for a good cause...etc etc.

Seems to me that the only cause he is into is HIMSELF. jmo