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Irismi
Member
02-22-2008
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:00 pm
When we are young, it is a common mistake we all share. As we get older, we can reflect, plus we have a better idea of what we want and what we deserve.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:00 pm
Nana, a lot of girls are like that...
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:01 pm
Irismi, I agree , with this game being about lying deceit and backstabbing how can they bring the bible into it, like I said I don't know a lot about the bible but I don't think it belongs in how people play this game.
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Jushvnfn
Member
07-29-2006
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:01 pm
I have been thinking about Bee too Llkoolaid. I will feel better when her name pops back up! I'm old enough to know this phrase: "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free" It was a common saying in the 60's.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:02 pm
From stories Natalie has shared about her childhood, it doesn't sound like she had a parent that was emotionally available to her. She could really benefit from some counseling to deal with that, IMO.
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Steviegirl
Member
07-07-2005
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:02 pm
At what age though are you "old enough to know better". When I was 28 I was married with 2 kids. Age can only be used as an excuse for so long.
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Buddeelove
Member
08-24-2007
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:03 pm
what really bothered me was Matt made fun of her for doing him. So sad.
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Irismi
Member
02-22-2008
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:03 pm
The casting of this show is stereotypical, they always throw a bible thumper or two in the house and a few athesists to boot. BB thinks it makes good tv. I would rather go back to the original BB...probably need a MIRacle for that to happen! lol
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:03 pm
Yeah Justhvfn, I have been wondering how she is all day, I couldn't find the post where she explained what was going on, but I know she was so upset and she is such a nice person, I really want her to show up with good news.
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Victoryrm
Member
09-20-2007
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:03 pm
Iris- Natalie's Bible thumping is the entire point.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:05 pm
I believe that varies from person to person, Stevie, depending on the circumstances. I personally was in-love with love when I was 28...took going through a divorce to wake up.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:07 pm
Natalie's "bible thumping" would bother me a heck of a lot more if I thought she knew better...she seems like a new Christian who still needs a lot of direction, IMO.
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:07 pm
I hate that they put one token mature person on the show, I would like to see at least 1/3 of them being over 30, another 1/3 being 40 or more and the other 1/3 being in their 20's. If they are looking for hot people there are lots to be found in any of those age groups, Remember Sheryll, she was gorgeous and one of the older women, and Sheila is a good looking woman too. I think I would enjoy this show a lot more if there were more people with life experiences that I can relate to.
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Irismi
Member
02-22-2008
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:08 pm
Vic, if anything, I feel sorry for Natalie, she really did embrass herself on national TV. Not only did she give 'service' to a guy who openly boosted about it, and said he wanted to have 'action' with all the women in the house, then she lied about doing it but threw the bible into the mix behind everyone's back. CHelsia may not be my 'cup of tea' but she's upfront about it. Natalie lies but judges the others for the Same behaviors. SHe doth protest too much. Like I said, I feel sorry for her. Many people saw what she did. Matt will be judged too, he's a playa and alot of women (women who like themselves) will steer clear of him.
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Jushvnfn
Member
07-29-2006
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:10 pm
OT... I know...sry Mods. Bee's husband had surgery today. You can leave her a message in the members thread. So it's not completely OT.... I think I would have come unglued if I had heard Chelsea talking about me like she did Natalie last night. Instead Nat sat there calmly doing her nails!
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Steviegirl
Member
07-07-2005
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:11 pm
Victory - I personally think Natalie's bible thumping and vulnerability go hand-in-hand. She's lost and looking for someone to love her. Looking to fill a void in her life. So she gives herself to men to feel loved, and she calls on God for love. It's normal when you are lost in life to turn to the bible. Drug users, people in jail, etc. It doesn't mean they'll be perfect while preaching the bible. Heck, if we were all sinless, we wouldn't need the bible.
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Irismi
Member
02-22-2008
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:11 pm
Jush, I haven't gotten to that part yet. AM waiting for it though. The guys are outside talking about Natalie/Matt/Chelsia. Guessing whether or not Matt will 'do' Chelsia in sequester. MOst think so.
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Buddeelove
Member
08-24-2007
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:13 pm
I would bet on it if she will
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:14 pm
I grew up in the late 60's 70's, I remembering fighting for the rights that women have today. The basic right not to been seen as inferior because of my sex and the right not to been used or seen as a sexual object. I think and I may be wrong but I think that the young women of today who didn't have to fight for these rights have it all wrong, they seem to think it is their right to use their sex and bodies to get further, we fought to not have to be that way. They just don't understand. I think the women of today are ruining all the stuff the womens relvolution fought for, I wish I was better with words and could make my point better, I hope someone understands what I am trying to say.
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Gigi
Member
07-22-2005
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:15 pm
age by number is not always the issue-- developmental age is the issue. someone posted earlier, i think it was llkool, that natalie has a wounded little girl inside. i agree with that, and that is why i would buy her book. i imagine that her childhood is filled with the answers to the questions we have about her behavior.
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Jushvnfn
Member
07-29-2006
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:15 pm
I guess I have a different opinion of Natalie. I think she judges herself harder than she does anyone else. To me, it is why she shares her so called "sins."
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:16 pm
Llkoolaid, that's a good example for the saying "History repeats itself". Women will have to fight all over again.
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Irismi
Member
02-22-2008
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:17 pm
Llkool, birth control changed women's sexuality forever. Next big change, the internet. Nothing is off limits these days. Have you seen the kid's my space pics/facebook stuff. It would make you cringe. Most of it is harmless but parents are very naive about it. The kids are really controling the content and not aware how much they are damaging themselves right now.
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:18 pm
She shares her "sins" because she believes they no longer matter-she has been forgiven. But the fact that she can so easily dismiss them without a backward glance bothers me.
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Gigi
Member
07-22-2005
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:19 pm
llkool- feminism has recently been described as archaic. that is scary. i did not fight the fight in the 60s (born in the 70s), but i do fight the fight, and i worry about what is happening with young women... i think that it is a reflection of how the clock continues to get turned back on women by the chipping away at our basic human rights. these hg's have talked about "taking care of their man," and i hear that as "while i sacrifice myself"
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