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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 9:43 am
Allison is constantly telling Ryan that he deserves better than Jen. However, she does try to act as though she is only helping Ryan and is never going to say anything more about it. Then she repeats something else negative about Jen and says it is only her opinion. What I want to know, "what makes Allison <24> the judge of whom Ryan should date? She cause all that trouble in the house to have Jen evicted, and now wants to steal her man. I only hope when she gets out of the house she gets her ass kicked <by> Jen...
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 9:58 am
I do not know why Allison has taken it upon herself to help Ryan see that Jen may not be the best for him. When Ryan gets out of the house and sees for himself how Jen totally back stabbed him by calling him a racist in order to further herself....hopefully he will then realize he can do better for himself. Jen definetly was not loyal to Ryan. Allison is not "the judge" but she does have the right to express her opinions as much and as often as she wishes. Ryan could put a stop to it at any time if he wanted...so far he has done nothing to stop it and he definetly has not asked Allison to stop talking about Jen. It is important to remember that Allison has NO commitment or obligation to Jen, she owes Jen nothing....it is totally up to Ryan to stop the talk if he finds it upsetting or offensive. IMHO
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 10:02 am
I think it gives us something to watch. Allison trying to put some hooks into Ryan, will it work? Stay tuned.....
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 10:06 am
I just think that she would have stirred things up between Ryan and Jen even if nothing were there. The moment she found out she was paired with Ryan she though he was hers, she can not be serious with this possessive attitude towards Ryan.
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Teenangel
Member
02-16-2008
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 10:32 am
This is just my opinion but... Jen and Ryan appeared to have a physical attraction to each other and didn't seem to be a good match otherwise, but it's up to them to make that decision. When Jen first approached Ryan with the news that she told Parker about them, she stated that they had made an agreement that they would never vote each other out and she was trying to stick with that regardless of the situation. I do believe she could have handled it better but still... When she asked him if he would vote her out, he sorta skirted around this and acted like he would but didn't want to come right out and say it, I think she sensed that, got upset with him and decided she needed to start playing for herself although it was too late then. Yes, after digging her grave, she then pulled the dirt in on top of herself by saying what she did about him. Unforgiveable? Maybe, (up to him to decide, not Allison). Worse than what he did to her? Definitely. However, if he really cares for her, HE would put a stop to Allison's plan and tell her to stop the bashing of Jen. Afterall, Jen is out of the house now and his relationship with her should no longer be affecting his game. The whole house keeps making remarks to him like 'oh, I would never date a girl like her'. What's up with that? They should drop it now, she's gone, forget it and move on. Continuing to try to destory his relationship with Jen when it is of no benefit to her game just shows what kind of person Allison really is. Sorry.. just had to get that off of my chest..lol
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 10:45 am
I agree Teenangel, everything you said it what I am referring to; it makes no sense for her to continuously talk about Jen...
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Ditekins
Member
02-17-2008
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 10:50 am
It really bothers me that Ryan doesnt stop the Jen bashing. He should inform Allison that Jen is gone and that they need to get their game on and quit the Jen bashing. Even now that Jen is out of the house, Allison is still jealous. I agree with you Teenangel.
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Kimsue
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 11:15 am
Ditekins, maybe he thinks someone will finally talk sense into him. Maybe....deep down inside he knows who and what she is and needs to affirm it.
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Chicogirl
Member
07-23-2007
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 11:41 am
I think it was the first night, when they found out Jen and Ryan were a couple. Allison said in a D.R. session that she was a better match for Ryan than Jen. Personally I think she trying to split them up. It doesn't seem to matter that Jen is gone.
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Muffin
Member
08-29-2007
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 11:48 am
<77> She doesn't know Ryan very well, and she has no idea what Ryan and Jen's relationship is like out of the house. When she was told that he was her soulmate, I think Allison really believes it. I can't stand her way of talking, she seems to feel above everyone, I can't stand looking at her, she makes me sick. But then again, most of the houseguests make me sick. I can't seem to find one person to root for.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 12:01 pm
There was a context to Jen's "throwing Ryan under the bus" and most of it had to do with the fact that Jen's ex-BF was black and Ryan "does not approve of interracial dating" yet BB deliberately paired Jen with a black man even though Ryan was in the house. The whole issue was initially brought up because Jen had reasoned out WHY she had been placed with Parker. As for her lying about using the word racist, there is a very good possibility that she doesn't even remember saying the exact words, because, as I already said, she was discussing this in a certain context. What Jen was talking about, though, was true. Ryan even confirmed that she was right about his feelings regarding interracial dating. He said he was "working on it". But, of course, it's much, much worse to call someone a racist than to actually be racist! ;) As for him being a great guy, Ryan at one point had an opportunity to possibly save both himself and Jen by telling her what was going on with the other side of the house. If he had told her that the other side was going to flip and he knew it, he could have gone to A/A and warned them and M/N could have used the veto on P/J and then P/J and M/N could have voted out the replacement, with A/A the tiebreaking vote. But Ryan didn't do that. Instead, he stood back and watched while his GF got trashed and evicted. He saw the bus coming, watched it roll right over her and is now letting other people laugh and cheer over the incident. Ryan knew he was safe from early on and never had to campaign against Jen. Ryan decided that the money was important than possibly trying to save Jen from eviction at his own risk. He lied to her about knowing that he was safe, so, in my book, he is not completely innocent in the "you betrayed me" contest. If Allison is successful in her campaign to get Ryan, then Allison will deserve the loser that she gets. Anyone who would allow others to trash the woman he supposedly loves and then cheat on her is no catch. I don't think that Ryan will actually do that in the house, but then again, I would not be surprised.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 1:41 pm
Onlyhuman, I completely agree with you. Your first two paragraphs especially convey my thoughts on it very well. Ditekins, I too find it extremely disturbing that Ryan doesn't speak up and tell Allison to cut it out with all the Jen bashing. But he doesn't seem to be the most outspoken man, but still, he really needs to speak up for the woman he claims to love. He can do it politely, he can tell Allison very diplomatically to chill. I just don't get him at all.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 1:47 pm
Maybe Ryan isn't telling Allison to cut it out, because he agrees with her.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 1:54 pm
i consider telling the truth "jen bashing". Jen did those things, Jen constantly harped at Ryan bossing him around, Jen badmouthed him to the others -racist and "watch out for Ryan he has a really bad temper" Others saw it, especially Alison who recieved the brunt of Jen's bullying. Alison is smart to try and change Ryan's view of Jen. Everyone in the house knows that HGs are being sequestered and have a chance to come back So......why wouldnt Alison want Ryan to be not as 'into jen' since she MIGHT make a comeback sometime during the game? anyways, I think it is gameplay...not that she has a yearning to be Ryan-cized. or is that Ryan-ated 
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Justin42
Member
08-05-2001
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 1:59 pm
I'm wondering about it in the light of the convo that just took place with Allison talking about a guy (John) she's been dating on and off for 10+ years and how it sounded like there was a chance that'd end up in marriage if she decided she was ready to settle down... All for the TV show, perhaps?
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 2:06 pm
LOL Sunshyne4u! I think Allison wants to be Ryan'ated and defintely wants to split up Ryan and Jen. I personally think something is a bit off with off with Allison mentally, I can't help but still feel that her first reaction to finding out Ryan and Jen were a couple as being odd and creepy and it wasn't due to the gameplay factor. Allison's reaction & attraction reminds me of that "So You Think You Can Dance" girl's (Jaimie?) attraction to the Russian (?) guy that she was partnered with telling the world that he was her boyfriend and they had something together and seeing the Russian (?) guys facial expression to this new information was priceless. Both are very odd about their realities.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 2:07 pm
Maybe Ryan isn't telling Allison to cut it out, because he agrees with her. LOL & ITA Jimmer!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 2:31 pm
ACK!!!! typo! i DON'Tconsider telling the truth "jen bashing". Geesh, Dont know how I missed THAT LOL}
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Lyn
Member
08-07-2002
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 2:46 pm
I think Allison has been buying into the BB twist about being matched up to their "soulmate" and Jen was in her way. Now that she's gone, Allison is going to give bagging Ryan her best shot I doubt she would've been after him at all if the idea hadn't been planted in her head. (Ali seems very susceptible to suggestion)
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 2:52 pm
"Truth" is relative in the BB house. The stuff they have said about Jen involves taking some "facts" and twisting them to fit their distorted reality of an event. They have decided that Jen doesn't really love Ryan and is the wrong person for him. Telling him that is their version of the "truth" and some posters here agree with it, but it doesn't make it actually true.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 3:12 pm
Only human, I do agree that Jen probably loves Ryan in her own way, but her behavior in the house towards him (behind his back) was not very loving and supportive at all, IMHO.
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Ditekins
Member
02-17-2008
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 3:25 pm
I think they threw each other under the bus lol Anways, if I was Allsion I would be thinking.. Do I want to be with a man that doesn't defend the woman he loves? Most of us would say, no thanks. ITA that Allison believes the story line that Ryan is her soul mate. I think, its opposites.
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 3:31 pm
I thought Allison's reaction to Jen and Ryan being a couple was very odd too. I don't like or trust her (Allison) and I didn't care for Jen either but I have no idea how their relationship is outside the house.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 3:38 pm
the truth as they see it and as we see it. Jen used to rag on Ryan and talk to him snarkily. Everyone saw it. anyways, I dont understand why people are saying that Alison is Making Moves on Ryan and "wants him". I have not seen any evidence to that theory. Can anyone enlighten me as to a SOLID factual event in which Alison has stated she 'wants' ryan? I've not seen sleazy behaviour nor is she even WITH him other than in passing throughout the day.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, February 22, 2008 - 3:40 pm
"She cause all that trouble in the house to have Jen evicted, and now wants to steal her man" I think you are giving Allison a heck of alot of credit she doesn't deserve. Parker got Jen evicted from the house. Many of the current HG stated it was Parker's attitude and actions that caused them to vote him out...which meant Jen was out also.
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