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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother IX- 2008 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 9 - Part 3: How can we encourage you to post live feeds? users admin

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Wargod
Moderator

07-16-2001

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 1:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Howdy folks,

Speaking as a poster, one of the best things about TVCH has always been the way posters go out of their ways to help each other. In and out of the Big Brother area of the board, posters encourage and congratulate each other, offer lively discussions and catch each other up to date on the current happenings on favorite tv shows. In the Big Brother area we've always had people go out of their way to transcribe the tv shows for west coasters, answer quick questions, post screen caps, and transcribe live feeds. Amazing help for those who need it. Those are just some of the things that make TVCH a special place.

Speaking as a mod, this season, though only a few days in, we are struggling to keep up to date. Live feed posting is down and we're going sometimes hours without updates or with just one person transcribing the feeds.

First I'd like to offer some encouragment for those who may never have tried live feed posting. If you're watching and see something happening, please give lfp'ing a try. Even a few short sentences to keep things up to date on lfp's. We're not worried about typos or mistakes or how neat and orderly live feed posts look. If you've seen some of my posts (and probably even this one, lol) you'll know spelling isn't always a high priority for me, getting the info out is.

Second, I'd like to ask for your input. What can we do to increase live feed posting? How can we encourage you and others to try it? Is there anything we can do to make it easier, less painful, more fun? Are there concerns or problems with doing live feed posting that we might be able to address? Please let us know, we really are interested in hearing your thoughts about this.

Hiyall
Member

07-06-2005

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 1:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
Speaking only for myself I would gladly do some of the lfp if I had the feeds.

After thinking about all the hard work that does go into the lfp I may have to upgrade my internet connection by summer season and pitch in. The lfp is really what makes the season for me.

Kswheels
Member

06-30-2005

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 1:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kswheels a private message Print Post    
I tried LFPing in the early seasons, and I learned that I can't walk and chew gum at the same time. When I'm typing a post, I miss something else. Not to mention the problem of the Houseguests talking, making me forget what I was typing in the first place.

Beekindpleez
Member

07-18-2006

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 1:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I have had quite a bit on my plate recently, but fully intend to pick up Live Feeds when I'm able.

I do appreciate those that have been doing it.

And Wargod...you are so right in saying that one of the best things about TVCH is the way we go out of our way to help eachother.

As for input: I've notice the board is amazing slow this year. I am hoping that BB hasn't gotten rolling enough yet for those lively, spirited nights. I'm hoping that as weekends and holidays come more and more will come and post. I think if we all just keep doing what we're doing it will pick up.

This is the best board anywhere.

Seamonkey
Moderator

09-07-2000

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 3:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think it is interesting to see how BB fares in the winter months. I know I have a lot more shows that conflict, even with the strike, than I do in summer.

Anyway I'll do what I can.

Sunshyne4u
Member

06-17-2003

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 3:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
i find it fascinating that people are more free during the summer than now.

I thought it was only Teachers who had the summers off.

Surely BB fans arent ALL teachers ??

Gusmonster
Member

06-01-2005

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gusmonster a private message Print Post    
I think there are so few of the regular posters on the board this season that there are just less people to do all these things. I don't have feeds and am a very hunt and peck sort of typist but I'll check the quick questions thread and anything else I can do.

Wargod
Moderator

07-16-2001

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Sun, I can only speak for myself and family/friends on this, but we're all busier during winter months than summer.

During the summer (or til mid August, rather) all my kids have is...playing. They are outside from the time they get up til after dark, or visiting at friends houses.

This week is a perfect example of the busy winter for me. I'm up at 6am to get Caleb ready for school, drop him off around 7, then back to get Dakota ready for school and drop her off around 8. I pick up my 1 and a half year old nephew. During the time he's here, I'm not quite so busy, but I can't really turn on the feeds cuz I have to be available for him. He goes home between 1 and 2, and then I have to pick Caleb up between 1:40 and 3:45 depending on his after school activity (he's running track and belongs to the anime club.) Dakota walks in the door at 3:30, I have to shove a snack down her throat, help her hurry and get as much homework done as possible and get dressed in her softball clothes, then make it to the ball park at 4:30 for practice til 6 (once the season starts she'll have the 4-5 practices a week she has now, plus two games a week plus the volunteer work me and Darren have to do at the park.) Then I have to rush to get dinner to my aunt, get back home to get dinner for my family, get the kids in showers and help them get their homework finished before bed. Plus this week I've had a sick hubby and a sick kid! That'll be my schedule from now til the kids get out of school in mid-June.

My only real free time of the day starts when they go to bed at 9, which is why I'm more of a late night feed watcher now. I'm an insomniac so I'm up til 2 most nights. I'm not complaining, I love being busy most of the time as long as its not too insane, but it certainly cuts down on the amount of time I can watch feeds. Most of the parents I know, those who work outside of the home and those who work inside the home, run pretty much the same type of schedule I do. During the summer, it's just not like this.

My hubby makes aerospace paint, for some reason, their slow time of year is from June-September. No idea why, but he works less ot during the summer, their production levels are lower, and overall it's just less hectic for them.

My bil and most of our friends/family are in construction. They usually get laid off during the summer months. Work is really slow for them too when they do have it during summer. And when they're laid off, my nephews daddy is in construction, so I don't watch him when his daddy is home.

I don't know why it works out this way for most of the people we know, I just know it does. I have to admit, much as I love BB, if I wasn't an insomniac and likely to be up til 2 am most mornings, I wouldn't have even bothered getting the feeds this season because I wouldn't have the time to watch them, lol. I totally understand people not having the time during winter.

Sea has an interesting point too, during the winter, even with the writers strike, there are far more tv shows on too to watch.

Please keep the posts coming folks, we really are interested to see what ya'll have to say and if there's anything we can do to improve the amount of live feeds posts!

Lily
Member

06-26-2005

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 8:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lily a private message Print Post    
I think one of the things that holds me back from posting more is I kind of feel like I have to devote a block of time which I often don't have or am interrupted continually.

There's many a LF post that's been started on my part and then abandoned. I'm wondering if there are others that concern themselves about time that they may or may not have.

Just a thought but could people be encouraged if we started doing more "Drive-by posts". For instance, I may only have seen 10 minutes of live feeds and have 30 seconds to type it up and run but it's it quick synopsis of what I saw and could be started with "DBP" to alert readers that's what it is rather than a detailed posting.

Throughout the years, I'm consistantly good for posting early mornings when they're ALWAYS asleep (except for the oldsters alone by themselves) and mid-afternoons but quickie drive-by's could be doable at other times.

Just a thought but maybe if there were quickie drive-by postings showing up, those who don't feel too comfortable doing detailed postings or who don't feel they could devote a block of time might participate more.

(Now it's time for me to see some feeds for the first time in way too many hours :-) )

Jimmer
Moderator

08-30-2000

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 9:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think that's a great suggestion, Lily. Anything that anyone can contribute is appreciated.

Wargod
Moderator

07-16-2001

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 9:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Yup, I agree! There's nothing wrong with doing just a quick summary or doing lfp's for 10, 20, 30 minutes if that's what people have time for. Even if someone else is posting you may catch something they missed.

Eeyoreslament
Member

07-20-2003

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I think the live feeds are almost a thing of the past. The hard thing for me (if I got the feeds) is that you are sort of taken away from ENJOYING the feeds, like one can in the Chatters' thread. The inability to editorialize and laugh/mock/scoff at the HG's actions make for a window of time where there is very little intrinsic enjoyment coming from the feeds.

(If I had the feeds) I wouldn't mind being able to write a couple of paragraphs of the GIST of things, every hour or so, but I wouldn't give up the enjoyment of the feeds, to transcribe them. ESPECIALLY considering the Chatters' thread has become more an more popular over the years, and you can sit and watch the feeds, mocking, laughing, and truly enjoying the company of others online.

Live feed posting is a lonely and dry job.

But that's just me.




I have to admit, I like the people like Sunshyne, who take the screen caps, then write a little paragraph about what was going on in the screencaps. Put a bunch of those together and form a little narrative of the day, and that's usually enough for me.

Eeyoreslament
Member

07-20-2003

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 9:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Sorry, that wasn't very constructive on my part.

I think that few people are dedicated enough to get the feeds right now, and then you also hear of so many people not renewing, etc.

Maybe if you had a moderator feed account with real, people could sign up to watch an hour, with the requirement that they post live feeds while watching. I don't know of a GOOD way to do this, as having the password give the users access to ALL account info, but that's all I could think of. I think, I'm not doing anything right now, and I'm bored. I could give an hour to the live feeds. But I don't want to OWN the feeds, because they would just suck my time away. I am taking a full courseload, AND a weekly photo class, AND working 2 jobs. So owning my own feeds isn't worth it, AND it's a recipe for failure in the other aspects of my life. LOL

Anyways, all I can think of is maybe some non-feed people would do it, if you gave them access to the feeds somehow.

Teenangel
Member

02-16-2008

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 10:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teenangel a private message Print Post    
Hello, I am fresh out of Lurkdom and would like to give my answer to that question (which actually drew me out of Lurkdom, lol)..
My answer is.... Tell me how. I can not type fast and keep up with an entire conversation. Also, I feel extremely intimidated. Tell me and others where to go to find out the rules, instructions, and basic guidelines that would make ppl feel less afraid to attempt this. Is it ok to paraphase as being exact would be impossible for me. Also, I can not dedicate a certain time that I could do it but would be happy to fill in the blanks when I am watching. Would I be intruding on another poster if I added what I saw and heard? I wouldn't want to step on any toes? I have never posted on any site before and this is totally new to me as it may be for others.

Beekindpleez
Member

07-18-2006

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 10:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Hiya Teen. Here is one place you can go for some answers about posting:

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Wargod
Moderator

07-16-2001

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 10:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Teenangel, do whats comfy for you. Paraphrase, summary or word for word, we take it all. The only thing we really ask is that you keep editorializing to a minimum. Sometimes you can't help but make a comment thats your own about something they said and when that happens you can put (ED. what you have to say) then back to the live feeds.

If you make a mistake and don't notice it til after you hit the post button, you have 10 minutes to edit your post, after that time frame you can't. You can also start your next part with a correction for the last post or if it's a really big mistake, you can yell for a mod to come fix it for you. Might take us a while to get there, but when we see it we'll fix it.

Oh, I will offer another tip too for anyone interested. If you want to follow just one conversation instead of rotating through the different feeds, write what feed (1,2,3, or 4) you're watching. If someone else comes along to post at the same time and sees that, chances are they'll cover the other feed. Sea and I were doing that last night and it worked out kinda well.

Sunshyne4u
Member

06-17-2003

Saturday, February 16, 2008 - 11:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I was going to suggest typing "paraphr" or "summary" when you are trying to post what you recall

Justin42
Member

08-05-2001

Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 1:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Justin42 a private message Print Post    
I'd think somehow merging screencaps and live feeds would help-- at least put them in the same place on the board-- since the screencaps thread often contains enough to get the gist of what's going on without needing to be transcribed.

I do think the chatter's thread takes away somewhat. I don't know how to fix that but it seems like Chatters can be totally busy and crazy while nothing at all is being posted in live feeds. I've been guilty of doing that, I'm not pointing fingers, but I think encouraging quicker "here's what's going on" posts would be good. I think a lot of times people assume they have to transcribe word for word what's going on, but often times those are the hardest to read (For me at least), especially when it's not game related. (I'm not saying word-for-word is always bad-- just that if it's chit chat it can get hard to follow, and even harder for the poster to post! There are times that less is more)

Even a "In the last 15 minutes there's just been general chitchat, [person A] is complaining about the food, [person b] is talking about their work" can be helpful.

Eeyoreslament
Member

07-20-2003

Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 3:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Ha! I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that CBS is casting vapid boring people, who don't know how to really talk game. LOL Back in the older seasons, it seemed like there was more plotting, etc. Now, it's just adult camp voyeurism.

Sunshyne4u
Member

06-17-2003

Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 3:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
it is also boringly predictable. With only seven teams, there will never be a surprise eviction Vote or Nomination.

The risk is way too high to NOT stick to the HOH's wishes

Lilfair
Member

07-09-2003

Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 2:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I didn't know where to post this.....I am so sorry I got the girls names mixed up/wrong when I stupidly tried to do a LFP. Today was the very first day I was able to watch my feed and somehow (after studying the pics) I mixed the girls up. So sorry. ;(

Beekindpleez
Member

07-18-2006

Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 2:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Lil...keep posting what you see. I came in behind you and fixed it, but the essense of what you saw is still there. Don't worry about it.

Jimmer
Moderator

08-30-2000

Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
As Bee said, don't worry about it Lil. We appreciate your efforts!

And of course, you too Bee!

Costacat
Member

07-15-2000

Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think you'd have to encourage me to watch the live feeds. And as of now, I have pretty much zero interest in this "season" of the show.

Sunshyne4u
Member

06-17-2003

Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 7:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I keep mixing up names too.

Or they talk about someone and I think WHO??

Wargod
Moderator

07-16-2001

Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 9:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Lilfair, I posted the other night for about an hour before I realized I had Matt and Alex mixed up. It's hard during the early days when people are kinda similar looking (dark haired guys, blond girls) and they're new to us.

Sunshyne4u
Member

06-17-2003

Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 4:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
bump

Tobor7
Member

07-19-2002

Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 6:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
If you are having trouble getting people to do the live feeds, try a little experiment...

Lift the ban on adding editorial comments. It would make the job more fun. LFP with editorial comments are better than nothing.

Beekindpleez
Member

07-18-2006

Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 6:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I would suggest maybe asking folks not to contact Live Feed Posters just to criticize them. Maybe putting some sort of disclaimer to this effect somewhere.

As all Live Feed Posters know, it's not easy to stay on top of them.
So, receiving letters that critique the posts made doesn't exactly encourage *me* to continue to post there.

Eeyoreslament
Member

07-20-2003

Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
People actually criticize you via private message!?!?! That is AWFUL!!!

Costacat
Member

07-15-2000

Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 6:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
NIIIIIIICE! Not! (Seriously, Bee? Geez!)

Saguaro
Member

06-21-2005

Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saguaro a private message Print Post    
It's not too difficult to open two browsers and editorialize all you want on the discussion thread, and post transcript, and happenings on the live feed thread .... why do they need to be done at the same time?

Earlier I was doing both live feeds(though brief) and trying screencapping for the first time since Big Brother started.

I enjoy doing feed transcripts, though I haven't had a lot of free time this season.

Cillysue2
Member

05-02-2003

Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 7:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cillysue2 a private message Print Post    
I tried it for the first time yesterday and it wasn't bad. Trouble is I have other things to do. I will try harder to do it more often. And if they don't like how I do it, well to bad, they should give it a try. It is not always easy. But I try to focus on one conversation that i think is juicy or will get that way.

So I will sincerely try harder for all of you. I know I really liked it when I could come in here and read all about it.

Karuuna
Board Administrator

08-31-2000

Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 9:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Just to be clear, we absolutely do NOT want people to contact folks by private Email or PM to critique their live feeds. We discourage it.

If you are having problems with this, please forward ALL such Emails to moderator@tvclubhouse.com, and we will be happy to take care of it.

We truly truly appreciate our live feed posters, and agree that they don't need private discouragement.