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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 12:06 pm
Okay I just want to see if I have this right: Chelsia/James want Matt/Natalie evicted. They are in cahoots with Josh/Sharon, who originally wanted A/A out but then switched it for them to stay now only to switch it back to keeping Matt/Natalie. Ryan/Allison now have an alliance with Matt/Natalie so they are voting to evict A/A. Both teams want to see Sharon/Josh out but in the beginning of the week Matt wanted James/Chelsia out. Adam has promised Matt he won't vote them out.. Who else is Josh playing sides with-Allison?
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 1:46 pm
actually I have NOT seen Ryan making a deal. Privately mattie and Ali have been talking. As far as I know Ryan is still undecided.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 2:00 pm
Ryan is keeping his options open, but he is leaning toward keeping Matt and Natalie. I heard him tell Allison last night that it would be better for them in the short term to keep Alex and Amanda, but in the long run they were better off with Matt and Natalie.
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 2:01 pm
oh yeah that's right,Sun. I also forgot to add in Operation Condor! lol
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 2:04 pm
i know that Chelsia is strongly opposed to anyone keeping Nat and Mattie. She gets quite aggressive and goes into a rant about how she can "Break" amanda and alex. strangely, I cant figure that one out. her logic makes no sense.
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 3:04 pm
So does Sharon/Josh know that Amanda and Alex will probably be voted out?
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 3:08 pm
Panda - No they don't. James told Chelsia to not tell Josh/Sharon.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 3:09 pm
But I thought Sharon and Josh were voting A/A out...
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 3:12 pm
okay thanks- I love talking game but I just lost track, thanks Chere. Sooo Josh/Sharon will be pissed! It's funny, if you don't campaign you are considered cocky. If you do, then they get annoyed about trying to sway votes. I like how each team has something going on with another team.
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 3:15 pm
Sharon/Josh have been on board with voting out Matt/Natalie for a couple days now. Josh wanted to keep Amanda/Alex because he feels he could control them better than Matt/Natalie. James doesn't want Josh/Sharon to know the votes flipped because they will be the only ones who will have a vote against Matt/Nat therefore making them a target if Matt/Nat win the next HoH.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 3:19 pm
Okay so let me get this straight... Josh/ Sharon voting out Matt/Nat Adam/Sheila voting out Amanda/ Alex Ryan/Allison voting out Alex/Amanda Do I have that right???
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 3:22 pm
Unless Josh/Sharon wins the next HoH, Allison and Ryan have negotiated into a good position for next week as it’s not necessary for them to win HoH. Josh/Sharon and James/Chelsia will most definitely be nominated if Matt/Natalie or Sheila/Adam wins the next HoH comp.
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Erinbear
Member
08-05-2005
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 3:22 pm
as far as i can tell yes bon that is right.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 3:24 pm
we need more voters
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 3:25 pm
Bonbon - yes that's right. James/Chelsia know they will be nominated next so they want Josh/Sharon to hang themselves by being the contrary vote against Matt/Natalie therefore becoming a bigger target.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 4:37 pm
What happened to J/C nominating M/N because they would be safe and it was one way to ensure "another couple" (A/A) leaves?
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Kimsue
Member
07-08-2005
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 6:08 pm
Costa.. It's the "Big Brother Curse". If you are put up as a pawn then you're outta' there! Guess I didn't really have to tell you that did I?

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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 7:14 pm
LOL. You're right Kimsue, I'm just surprised that the house has "already decided" to oust the pawns!
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Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 8:04 pm
I'm confused. Aren't they saying Amanda/Alex are going? They weren't the pawns. They were the targets.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 8:11 pm
Josh/Sharon and James/Chel want Matt/Natalie out because they think their strong competitors, plus they also think Alex/Amanda will not do good in any physical comps because they've been on slop, and they can "break" Amanda (by using her father's suicide as a taunt) Ryan/Ali need Matt/Natalie to stay because they would probably be next on the hit list (Sharon wants Ryan out especially as revenge for Jen evicting her)- and M/N would go after James/Chel for lying to them. Adam/Sheila have said they'll go with the majority- so it looks like for now they're with Ryan/Ali and Matt/Nat- especially because if for some reason Ryan/Ali won POV, they would be an easy boot. I think as it stands now A/A will go- and Josh/Sharon have to win HOH or POV this week or they're next...Josh has been horrible about things not going his way...
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 10:42 pm
The HOH can't vote... I forgot about that. So no tiebreak... well, then it's still Amanda/Alex out. Josh better stop going against the wind... and join the other two voting couples to avoid making himself a huge target...
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 10:54 pm
They are in cahoots with Josh/Sharon, who originally wanted A/A out but then switched it for them to stay now only to switch it back to keeping Matt/Natalie. I thought Josh/Sharon have always wanted A/A to stay this week, which is why they were upset to learn it wouldn't be 3-0 or even 2-1, but they would be in the minority. Ryan is very aware of the deal with Matt. He, Matt and Adam are together and they want to take out J/C and J/S. That's why this week is so important. Whereas James seemed to be the leader of the Condors previously, somehow Matt got in there with Adam/Ryan, who maybe felt they were underdogs and that J/C and J/S were running the game. That's why James is letting HOH be used. He's hoping against hope that Alex can change Alli's mind, but he doesn't know the real Alli....yet. James knows that if A/A go home, he'll be on the block.
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 8:20 am
J/C and J/S are both screwed next week even if they win HOH. It's pretty clear at this point that A/A are leaving. Assuming J/S win HOH and nominate, A/S, A/R or M/N If one of these 3 couples that is not nominated win POV and pull down one of the nominees, J/S will have no choice but to nominate J/C and they will go home. Also if J/S do not win HOH and are nominated along with J/C even if they win POV and one of the 2 come down, the remaining will go home because only 2 couples are voting and the best they can hope for is a tie. The ONLY way both J/S and J/C can stay in the house if they win BOTH HOH and POV. Allison jumped ship at just the right time. She is running the show now and she knows it.
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 8:35 am
I thought Josh/Sharon have always wanted A/A to stay this week, which is why they were upset to learn it wouldn't be 3-0 or even 2-1, but they would be in the minority. That is true - I know that now. At the time I started the post I had thought that Josh was in on the plans with the rest of the house. I didn't even realize how split it was until yesterday! Allison sure did get it right this week.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 8:43 am
I agree...but there is still a wild card in the deck Ali has to avoid. They (and we) still have no idea if they're going to stay pairs the rest of the season of they'll break them up. If they don't Alison is in pretty good with her alliance. If they do she might be in trouble, because there are enough halves of pairs that don't trust her to get her alliance out if the votes went individually.. frog- if J/S win HOH, they probably can get one of them out even without a POV win. Say they nom M/N and A/R. If one of those two win POV, A/S can go up and J/S will break the tie and evict whoever wasn't vetoed. The danger is if A/S aren't nommed and win POV- then they are screwed because they'll be forced to put up J/C and they'll be voted out by the other two. The key tonight is HOH. If J/S don't win it, they and J/C will both be up and one of them will go. If they do, M/N or R/A will go. If A/Sh win HOH? Then it could get interesting....
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 12:16 pm
One of the reasons I'm okay with A/A going is because they wouldn't have been kept there because they are liked, they would have been kept to be used as Joshua saw fit and for that reason, I'm somewhat glad he's losing his power. I want to see how J/C and J/S act on the other side of power..ie; powerless.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 1:34 pm
I was so sure Alison was going tomorrow but it seems she may be staying after all... Josh is going to hit the wall!!! I can't believe Josh is still convinced he has James and Chelsia to vote out Alison... he may know Matt wants Alison to stay but he better make sure of Chelsia and James vote because he won't even have the satisfaction of breaking the tie and get rid of Alison. Then there is BB, the evicted couple will get a surprise... that could change the situation and Alison may stay either way... Josh is going to hit the roof... forget the wall...
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 2:09 pm
Spunky I do believe that J?C are voting out A/R. they were talking at 12:25 and James saying they can be tru to their word with josh by voting out A/R. Chel mentions that if they tell everyone tonight that give them too much time to talk, wants to wait till tomorrow AM. Afraid of what Alli will do.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 7:05 am
Well, we saw how that turned out. But now, after the split and Ryan saying "you're safe to everyone" I don't really know who is going on Wednesday...I still say that if Ryan ends up putting James on the block.. Sharon is still the one to go... But if it's Josh on the block the house may want to get rid of him... If Chelsia found out about Ryan/Matt plot all by herself then she's smarter than I thought. Josh and James were shocked to know that they may be going up, it goes to show you they're really not very good at this game...
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