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Cheekychops
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08-12-2005

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheekychops a private message Print Post    
Ks, yeah, no one deserves to be cheated on but she outted her own boyfriend as a racist on national tv. For that, she deserves it. (insert evil laughter)

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Did anyone catch the conversation very late last night with Matt, James and Adam? I fell asleep and woke up to find them deep into strategy. They were giving Matt a roadmap to stay that I'm pretty sure involved "any lie that would work" and other charming things. I'm wondering if that is what he is doing now, since they discussed how he should "control his girl" and he was saying how he would TELL her what to do period. I recall thinking how much it made me want him voted out lol.

Also if anyone saw it wonder if they caught how Matt sounded like he slipped and that he knows Alex outside the house. I played it a few times cause I wasn't sure I heard right in my sleepy state. He caught himself saying too much and changed it, but he said something like "trust me I've know him for" and they he changed gears. He was insisting he owns the DJ company (which I think is true). Wonder what is up with that. Anyone catch anymore???

Panda
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07-15-2005

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
I think Sunshyne had touched on that, Lurk.
I was in la la land @ that time...

Guinevere
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03-15-2001

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Guinevere a private message Print Post    
I really resent the "girls to bring home to mama" argument. It takes two to tango - we keep accepting that a man will take sex wherever we can get it, and by accepting that, we perpetuate it. If Nat is pathetic for giving oral sex to Matt when he doesn't even like her, Matt is pathetic for accepting it from a woman he doesn't even like. We have to stop holding men and women to different standards. It's a cliche and untrue that "men just can't help themselves" or that women don't have the same urges. It varies from person to person, of course, and women are simply more socialized to view sexual behavior in a different way. (I am no social anthropologist, and I realize some would argue a biological component, but I refuse to believe that unless someone gives me concrete evidence. It just kind of depresses me; I prefer to think of it as socialization.)

I judge Nat and Chelsia because the former is obviously trying to get Matt's attention in spite of the fact that it is clearly a lost cause, and it does make her look sad. Chelsia I already have HUGE problems with, so I may be judging her based on that, but if she would own her behavior instead of acting embarrassed, I'd prefer it.

Personally, I think Chelsia should be far more ashamed of her repeated comments about breaking Amanda and throwing Amanda and Alex's father's deaths in their faces. There is something wrong with that girl, IMO. I get that BB is a game, but I get the feeling that she really doesn't have a conscience.

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
Ks what did you pay to see? Mob mentality pack attacks?

I think so far the feeds have been well worth the money and i have nothing to complain about.

I just often wonder what people think they are going to get by watching a bunch of people in a house where they are forced to lie, cheat, and back stab.

Nat is one of the few who is greatful to be there and not making demands on BB or refusing to follow the rules...think PAAAkaer- Will and Boogie

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
LOL turned on feeds and was wondering where all this chat is, then I looked at the time stamp. Guess I missed it. Why 4 feeds on a sleeping person? With a houseful of folks isn't someone awake??? SIGH

BTW as for Ryan, he seems like a somewhat decent guy and remember Jen lied to his face about saying he was a racist. I think he is going to be VERY hurt when he sees the tapes as they say. I'm sure Jen will be looking for ANYTHING he does to make it seem like he screwed up too. What I want is for him to realize what she is about sbout, because I don't feel he deserves it. In this house full of folks I find VERY unlikable, I think he is the cream of the crop.

And KS I hear ya (thankfully a very nice TVCH'r is allowing me feed access or I wouldn't be able to see it this time). So while I can't honestly complain about the $$, I was thinking last night how they have now turned into a live soft porn show. How far it's come from BB1 eh??? Can't believe AG and or the network feel it's for the better. I sure don't!

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
I agree in part Guinevere
I don't see Nat doing anything really that much different than Amanda and her "i know it all about medical issues and everything else"
Both girls are making themselves stand out in the house, both girls like the attention, and both girls think they are good at what they are doing.

Now Nat is good at entertaining-Amanda not so good at her attempts to educate.

For the record Nat has accomplished making her mark in the house as they all treat her like the "delicate flower" Josh said she was... And while they feel for her and don't understand why she can't get the message that Matt isn't interested.. She has also managed to make Matt the villain and if the game were to go to singles and Nat and Matt made it to the end she would have their votes.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Panda...recently?? And in this thread? Asking before I spend time looking in the wrong thread adn time lol. Thanks.

And Ks this group is such a bizarre mix of folks, none of whom seem to have a true self-awareness that their opinion of themselves doesn't match the reality. And hard to say this without being judgemental, but they seem to morally feel all is acceptable from them, because they have a good heart. And they seem clueless that their acttions might not be as stellar as they believe.

Nat actually seems nearly desperate for Matt's affection, to the point I feel like she's in high school. Combine that with how mean he is to her, and how it doesn't even slow her down, and it almost hurts to watch. How old is she again? Regardless, emotional age is different anyway.

Frogichik
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06-11-2002

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frogichik a private message Print Post    
"Cheeky - Jen wasn't my favorite, but cheating is wrong, and no one deserves to be cheated on."

Not that I condone cheating, but the Jen called her boyfriend a racist on national television. I honestly wouldn't feel bad for her.

Kswheels
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06-30-2005

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kswheels a private message Print Post    
Lurk - Need a happy medium between pure evil/porn and BB1. BB1 may have started my addiction, but I wouldn't be willing to go back that far.

Kswheels
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06-30-2005

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kswheels a private message Print Post    
Last night about....3 AMish BB time I believe.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Kale...I'm not KS but I have some thoughts. When I watch BB I hope to see some clever strategies, some alliences, and that old sociology experiement part about folks locked up away from the world. I used to look forward to some interesting conversations and the occassional legitimate hookup/flirtation.

All that is light years from this BB. I haven't seen anyone here try to get to know anyone, I haven't heard any interesting conversations, and the main strategy is how to best lie and stab folks in the back. And all that comes after endless sexual acts. Many here have posted "I'm not a prude" or similar comments and I laugh every time because I so agree. It's just the sex is SO over the top, and so without any feelings. And last night they were making sure to time it for Showtime. None of that sits well with me, and it's not my idea of interesting BB. It's more like a trainwreck meets home made porn, and that just isn't what I thought BB was about. JMHO of course.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
oh KS ITA! I think BB1 definately needed some changes. BUT if I had a choice of that type of BB or this, I'd take that with better production (which was a huge part of the problem). But at least that was a diverse group of real people who had real conversations. Because we were voting there wasn't much strategy. I can see needing something inbetween, but this BB just isn't my idea of an interesting group of people.

I remember wanting to go to Vegas to join the BB1 cast when they planned it. I still would love to have a cup of coffee with Kaysar. There isn't one in this group I wouldn't run away from, let alone want to meet.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
It was in the live feeds thread...not far from the bottom. I was reading over at Joker's and in the media section, there was the same speculation about Matt/Alex.

Kswheels
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06-30-2005

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kswheels a private message Print Post    
Lurk - You will never get a diverse cast again, and it isn't entirely AG's fault. "Normal" people see what BB is about and they don't wanna be a part of it.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Ah thanks Panda...found one post here will check out the others. Had some info I missed about it being a short season (guess we have an answer lol). I can see them wanting to pull the plug on this trainwreck, esp with the writer's strike over.

And KS, sadly I agree with you. I think based on the casting the last few seasons very few normal folks would subject themselves to it. That said, if they truly wanted to cast that way I'm sure they could. I'd be happy if they at least cast some folks with some real life experience and some diversity in age and ethnicity. That should still be doable. Even last season was IMHO FAR more interesting people than this. And I still think we would have seen a more interesting EvilDick if he had anyone to have any intelligent debates with.

BTW why do they keep talking about the Hudson River Virus? I've heard them mention it tons of times but can't figure out how it came into the house convo. I know it's the bug on Jericho (a CBS show) so assume it's somehow related, but no clue how the HG heard of it. Anyone know?

Kswheels
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06-30-2005

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kswheels a private message Print Post    
There is a screencap of Sheila writing Hudson on a paper towel in the cap thread, but that's all I know.

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
The problem with our BB isn't the cast so much as it is the game set up.
By taking the vote away from viewers and causing the players to vote each other our it changed the whole concept of the game.
It took it from a social experiment to a cut throat game contrived interaction.
We don't get to see the real person in each guest as they do in other countries because they have a game face on 24/7.

I honestly think the best game set up is Australia, there is strategy but also real human interaction and relationships- and they are kept busy and actually have to deal with penalties when they break rules.

I really like Natalie because I believe she is really being who she is, but with a game plan.. a plan that was working out well until Matt melted down.

Skylar47
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08-24-2004

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 2:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skylar47 a private message Print Post    
I think that Matt explained it all to most of the guys..He said he had a mission to have it with most of the girls in the house..He bragged about getting a bj without even having to Kiss..

Last night proved that he has only eyes for the ones he hasn't had yet..He was pretty hot with Chelsia and Sharon but the minute Natalie came near him he would push her away...

I Thought wow..All that exposing and rubbing up with everyone would make any man want some..Matt is the only one in that house that could of got some action but he had no desire to go back to Natalie again..Hes a PLAYER..plain and simple!

Meggieprice
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07-09-2001

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 2:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Meggieprice a private message Print Post    
Hey everyone! Stopped in to say hi. This has been an odd season for us- we have watched little (five minutes) live feeds and little(fifteen minutes last night) Showtime and usually end up watching three shows on Sundays.

So here I sit, for the first time in all these seasons,as someone seeing the show only!

My only thoughts so far- sorry to see Parker go, and like Chelsia and James for the win.

The other thing is when we watched the HOH comp from Wednesday last night all we could figure is that they are all too dumb to comprehend that the choices would actually translate to real consequences. I mean- they picked a one night margarita party with no drinking glasses over having barbecued food for the REST OF THE SEASON. Huh? And you can eat with your hands- what about drinking? We were literally open mouthed over their choices.

Anyway I love and miss you all but we are busy busy busy.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 2:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
Lurk- I believe it was mentioned in the food comp (as to how the fish died)

I'm sorta torn about Nat- I think she's naive about a lot of things, but is TMI about a lot more....I think it might be for the best if she does go this week, if only because I fear Matt will take advantage of her again....



Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 2:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
Natalie has a better grasp of Christianity than Jameka and Amber did.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Also if anyone saw it wonder if they caught how Matt sounded like he slipped and that he knows Alex outside the house.

He caught himself saying too much and changed it, but he said something like "trust me I've know him for" and they he changed gears. He was insisting he owns the DJ company (which I think is true). Wonder what is up with that. Anyone catch anymore???


yes, matt was stumbling as he talked because they are not supposed to talk about Preliminaries and stuff from 'as they were being cast'.

Matt said that Alex told him he owned the business then. Matt also said that Alex has got tons of money because his mother would have got that Million dollar settlement that the government gave 9/11 widows. Alex lives with his mother.

matt said that he figured Alex's mom bought the business. Matt said that Alex was talking about doing the paperwork.

Sounded like this happened outside of the house.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
ah, I'd say Nat and Amber are equal. Jameka knew about the rules and decorum.

So I'll pass on the Jameka comparison. nonapplicable as per sex and Nudity IMHO

Jameka was 'thy will be done' amber was Gimme gimme gimme

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, February 25, 2008 - 2:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Any thing happening currently?