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Bicbicz911
Member
08-20-2005
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 9:00 am
Marksman, I agree 100%. I still don't understand that competition, I would have tanked.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 9:32 am
Ryan will win if he wins Part 3 of the Comp, the Jury will see he was the strongest player. 
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 9:54 am
The jury is not going to vote for the player who won the most comps. I think this jury will be bitter. Between Ryan, Adam, and Sheila-- Ryan is the least liked by the jury. If Ryan is in F2 he will lose. He has made and broken deals with Josh, Natalie, and Sharon. IMO, that will be Ryan's undoing if he makes F2.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 10:03 am
They always simmer down in the jury house..decompress so to speak.
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 10:09 am
I think most everyone in the Jury house will not vote for Sheila since they have time to realize how she intentionally screwed over and betrayed everyone in the game. Unlike Ryan, Sheila did not create super secret F2 alliances with two people from the evil doers alliance. I think Ryan's double-dealing alliances will be the talk of the jury house, not Sheila's crazy menopausal behavior. Ryan chose his alliance with Sharon over TC which led to Natalie’s eviction. The way I see it: Adam > Sheila > Ryan Adam will beat Sheila and Ryan Sheila will beat Ryan
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 10:29 am
<76> I genuinely think Ryan can beat both of them if he sells himself to the jury properly. Against Adam in the F2, Ryan can point out that Adam acted spineless through the whole game, and never once had the courage to make a move that would upset anyone. He can point out the two HOHs that Adam had, and his WEAK choices during those HOHs. He let everyone ELSE make decisions, rather than risking taking any heat himself, or even thinking about his own game. Ryan OTOH was a better player because he was always friendly to everyone, while still trying to take out major players that would have been competitive threats (like Natalie and James). If phrased properly, Ryan can win the votes of James and Nat because he can COMPLIMENT them by saying they WERE fierce competitors, and if he had kept them in the game, Ryan would have been sitting on the other side. Against Sheila, Ryan can say he has WORKED for where he got in the game, by winning competitions, and helping out his alliance. What did Sheila do for her alliance? When did she ever win anything to make game moves that would protect her alliance? Only at the end? Pfft. Ryan can point out that he NEVER pissed people off in the house, and he didn't make a habit of taking every opportunity to bad mouth for the sake of entertainment over gameplay. This will get the votes of Matt, Chelsia, and James for sure, and I think Josh won't vote for Sheila anyways. Sheila rode the coattails of everyone else in the house, and while she may have tried to point people's attention toward other players by badmouthing, it didn't ALWAYS work, and it really pissed people off in the process. And lastly, Ryan can point out how Sheila always tried to play the single mom card (which the Pinks DON'T respect as a strategy), and that the WINNER of the GAME should get the money, not the loser. Just like in the POV, Sheila was the first one out, and EXPECTED 10,000 bucks for it and Ryan, the WINNER, was supposed to sit in a red leotard? I don't think so. Ryan has been one of my favorite BB players to follow. I do not have the live feeds, but out of everyone, I respect his GAME the most. They have all shown really negative human traits, but in the GAME, I like him the best.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 10:35 am
So much depends on what each of them say and how the jury reacts. If either of them present an exceptionally good or bad case then that could sway things. How bitter the jury stays will affect things. And, finally if one or the other has an effective advocate on the jury, that can be huge as well.
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Landileigh
Member
07-29-2002
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 10:43 am
well said eeyore!
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Tissy
Member
07-28-2003
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 10:52 am
Ryan can point out that Adam acted spineless through the whole game, and never once had the courage to make a move that would upset anyone. I`d say Nat and Ryan were pretty upset when he didnt put James on the block 
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 10:54 am
I agree, well said eeyore. I'm loving this because I don't really care who wins but I am leaning toward one of the guys. If Sheila pulls it off, then I will be happy for her.
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Fredi
Member
04-01-2008
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 11:01 am
I agree Ee. Good post.
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 11:03 am
<77> I have read back through this thread to get the specific examples of his alleged racism, and it is a lot of the emperor has no clothes. <77>
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 11:09 am
Jen was the one who told Parker that Ryan was a racist. There was absolutely NO "mis-hearing" or "second hand something." In addition, it was aired on the show in primetime.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 11:10 am
Then he shouldn't say the stuff he is saying on the feeds. He has said them, they are not miss heard or second hand. I said in an early post that I wanted to know him after Jen left. I wanted to like him. Well I got to know his thoughts and don't like him because of his own spoken words.
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Scooty
Member
07-21-2007
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 11:41 am
That 3 letter word will prevent Ryan from winning J E N !!
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 12:26 pm
Natalie would go for that. There's three letters in J E N and D U N.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 3:54 pm
Has Ryan ever said anything racist on the live feeds? Just asking because I have not read anything that said he did.
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 3:58 pm
Ryebread toast
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 4:01 pm
That is not racist, is it?
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 6:43 pm
I find that I am unable to watch tonight’s show. Seeing Ryan talk in the DR about what he needs to do to win this game KNOWING that he totally made the worst move he could have made pains me. I never wanted him to win but this show is ridiculous.
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 7:47 pm
his speech to sharon.... what a liar. he knew full well she was going to be evicted. he is almost trying too hard w/ the jury members. i think they will see right thru him.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 3:26 am
From this very thread: Rosem4243 Member 06-27-2005 Monday, April 14, 2008 - 2:19 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The mashed potatoes remark was after that food comp where they had to ladel gravy down the mashed potato mountain. After the comp, Ryan said something to the effect that the potatoes would be sent to "<55> Ethiopians"
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 3:55 am
Stupid but hardly racist.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 1:20 pm
In Ryan's case, since he uses that word to describe everybody (even those close to him), I don't think that alone makes him racist. He just doesn't have a large vocabulary of adjectives.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 1:40 pm
So all we have on Ryan being a racist is Jen told Parker that Ryan was a racist? Maybe she doesn't know what being a racist is.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 2:00 pm
Jen claimed Ryan is a racist because he had an issue with her once dating a black guy, and she felt BB "soul-mated" her with Parker to start drama since he's black. That's according to Jen. I don't know if Ryan is a racist, but I do think he's racially insensitive and perhaps a bit sexist and controlling. There's something else about him too that I can't quite put my finger on, something I feel he's keeping in the closet that may only come out when he's with people he's extremely comfortable with and there are no cameras around. Jen kept saying she and Ryan have been thru a lot, they've only been together less than a year I think, so to have gone thru so much in such a short amount of time, I'm thinking there must be something more to him...and perhaps her. I think he's probably a real piece of work behind closed doors, and the layed back, easy going personna was a role he played in the house.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 2:05 pm
I think Jen was just trying to save herself from being evicted.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 2:14 pm
Could be, but I think there must have been some past issue, because BB is all about the drama and I don't think it's coincidental that BB paired Parker with Jen. Jen will probably back-pedal now on the comment, but I think there is some truth to it that he may have had an issue before with her dating a black man, just not sure how big or small an issue.
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 7:13 pm
Yeah that is for Ryan and Jen to work out. I know Ryan has been in there all along fawning for Jen, but I do think he will be pissed when he sees she really said that. <76>
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Bicbicz911
Member
08-20-2005
| Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 8:21 pm
<76> People have perceptions based on statements Ryan made in the house, and based on posts discussing the statements he made. I don't personally feel Ryan is racist, but it's an individual opinion. <76>
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Justalittlebean
Member
08-15-2003
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 5:30 pm
I found this over at Sucks: annagreen wrote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Did anyone see the feeds where Ryan talked about hitting Jen, or going to jail for hitting her, or a video of it? I have some doubts about what was said myself, because there are usually multiple posts of incriminating videos like that. I saw it anna. He said they were both drinking & she hit him too but he went to jail because he hit her. He was talking about how Jen drinks till she blacks out. Not every day but they are both binge drinkers. He said Jen was worse than him. She has had a couple of "dooies" as he called them (DUIs for those of us not accustomed to getting them ) & she has to use that blower thing on her car before she can start it. She also has to have a special color license tag on her car that Ohio requires. I think Ryan said he got a DUI once too.

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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 6:11 pm
Wow, was that early on in the feeds Justalittle? Wish all states required the special license tags.
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Justalittlebean
Member
08-15-2003
| Friday, April 25, 2008 - 6:41 pm
I don't know when it was said. Someone who lives in Ohio said the license tag is marked which usually means the person can drive the car to and from work.

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