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Caprica
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02-10-2007

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 3:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
The laws of conduct for the Hebrews in the Book of Leviticus is where the laws against homosexuality are listed. An another paragraph says it is a sin to eat pork and shell fish.

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 4:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
Because I choose to stop in a thread and talk about one houseguest doesn't mean that I think that the other houseguests are saints and do no wrong.

For me it is never about ranking who is the worst and that means the rest are all OK.

Bad behavior is bad behavior, I just stopped into this HG's thread this week

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
Well, just to change the subject... Natalie is really, really bothered by Chelsia saying she would "f" Matty in sequester and that he hates her. Nat's running around saying to everyone that Matt really cares for her and that he wouldn't be with Chelsia. Chelsia doesn't care for Matt, she just wants to bug Nat and she really has. It's quite sad to see how deluded Nat is about Matt.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 4:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Nat is not making moves based on HER winning this game. It makes me sad because I think that if she put her mind to it she could possibly win.

Barkley
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08-12-2005

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Barkley a private message Print Post    
THe message I get is its hard enough to work on my life with God to look and wonder what others are doing. My walk is all i can understand. Nat's is all she understands. Can you imagine her tring to understand ours.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 4:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
If Natalie really and truly believes that Matt cares for her and that they are soul mates, then I feel very sorry for her. She is living in her own little world and even when told otherwise, refuses to believe. If she is that needy that she needs to believe a myth that BB started as a "twist" for their winter season, then she really needs to work on her self-esteem. I hate to see women do that to themselves... there are a million men out there. Many MANY are better men than Matt will ever be. Don't waste your time on men like him! Especially if their feelings towards you aren't reciprocal!

Bombaycat
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07-21-2007

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 5:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bombaycat a private message Print Post    
I think Natalie bought into the soulmate thing from day one because BB said Matt was her soulmate. Poor thing is convinced that the "powers to be" made that decision on her behalf and therefore it must be true. She had convinced herself that Matt was just kidding when he told her he didn't feel the same way. She kept saying Matty loves me, I know he does. Matt didn't help matters when he took advantage of her "services". That gave her all the more ammunition that he is her soulmate.

She seems to be a very needy person and I feel sorry for her. After the show is over and reality sets in she will find out that Matty never was nor will he ever be her soulmate.

Mama2oliviamae
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08-16-2006

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mama2oliviamae a private message Print Post    
I agree with the above two posts.

I DO believe that Nat honestly thinks she & Matt are "soulmates". She believes that 100% and thinks that Matt will "realize" that he's in love with her. She lives in a delusional world and I feel very sad for her.

With that said, I think this is truly her personality outside of the house, too. I think she's that girl (and we all know one) that goes on a couple of dates and starts picking out wedding china in her head.

With the way that I was concerned with Amber's mental state post-BB last year is the way I kind of feel about Natalie.

Dee
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08-08-2000

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 5:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dee a private message Print Post    
How many times have we seen reality TV contestants end up believing they are on the "good" side of Good vs Evil? Something changes during the game for them.

At some point, they start believing "John" or "Sue" doesn't deserve to win because they aren't "good" people. And they'll even say if they are evicted, to make sure "John" or "Sue" doesn't win.

Heck, if they're evicted, what do they care who wins? It won't be them, lol.

Jarriluvs
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07-27-2006

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 6:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jarriluvs a private message Print Post    
I just wish she would STOP using the Bible as a "How to Play Big Brother Reference Guidebook".

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Mama, I think it's more like "the girl that goes on a couple of dates and starts BUYING wedding china!" :-)

And I do agree, I think this is how she is on the outside. I wish BB hadn't done the soulmates thing on someone who seems so gullible. C'mon Natalie. Stop and think! There were 30 people who applied for Big Brother. Do you REALLY think your soulmate was one of 'em? Nope. BB matched you two as opposites. They saw you as needy and Matt as a player.

While I've managed to avoid seeing any videos of Matt getting "serviced," if she did, in fact, service him three times, then I feel really bad for her. And as for Matt? Well, I hope I never meet him in person, cause I'll have a few words to say to the man who uses a woman like that. And his voice might be a few octaves higher afterwards (and it won't be as a result of "tucking"! <grin>).

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Natalie's behavior is fine with me. I think she knows darn well that Matt doesn't want to be her husband...but I also think she knows that they will be friends, good friends, outside the BB house.

I also think that Natalie has a naive, but pure, belief in God. Her own belief in God. She has been far less hurtful than most others in the house, and I admire that, especially with this particular group of houseguests.

Natalie finds strength in the words she reads, and yes, she may not go about it the way some people feel it should be done, she may not be a purist in the way she reads and sites the bible, but she does believe it and she does have faith.

Yeah..she "serviced" Matt...(Costa..it was FOUR times) He's a boy...there are many like him. I think she has a different view of it than I do, and I'm not gonna rip her up for that. Heck, I've done some things in my life I would never do today, but I did them. Thankfully, it wasn't on the National Internet for everyone to see and count, but I'd be willing to bet that a few nice men will see the very good in Natalie. Such as her loyalty, her generosity and her kindnesses.

I'm fine with "Natalie's Behavior".
Especially when compared to the "behavior" of several other of our HGs this year.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 7:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I am not a fan of Matt and it pains me to defend him in any sense. However, I find it hard to rationalize that he took advantage of Natalie and used her. Yes he let her do the deed but he was painfully honest with her regarding his lack of attraction to her. If a guy had pursued a woman around the house like Natalie pursued Matt and refused to accept that he was being rejected, people would have been extremely uncomfortable with it. She practically forced herself on him.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 8:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Maybe we should start a "Matt's Behavior" thread. lol

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 8:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I want to send James home. God wants ME to be the ONE! because it is Week 7 and God's lucky number is Seven!

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 8:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Well, it's all about the numbers.

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 9:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
I agree Jimmer

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 9:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Nobody said Nat wasn't a little over the top,lol.

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 9:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
I like Natalie (something I never thought I'd say) She has grown on me...she's cooky for sure but she seems like a very kind person. I do worry for her when she gets out of the house and sees how things really went down.

Matt did make it very clear to her, on more than one occasion...so I don't think it is his fault she has this obsession with him. I think if he knew she was like that things wouldn't have happened between them that first week.

Natalie cracks me up and with a cast this year that I can hardly stomach, it's great that there is someone who really does entertain me.

AND I hope she is the one who sends James packing...and let it be a tie week, and her as HOH break the tie and kick James's butt out of there. ;-)

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 10:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
<24> Just because others are bad, too, doesn't make what she does right. She has this holier than thou attitude that is annoying. With what she has done and continues to do she DARES to judge others in that house. And that green eyed monster that she's carrying on her shoulder is gonna bite her in the butt.

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 10:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
The point of needing forgivness that we do not always do what what we know is the right thing to do.

Even a past President said that oral was not sex.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 10:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
but the past president wasnt claiming he didnt fornicate. Nat reads verses out loud denouncing stuff that she is doing in the house

or should I say...DID.

Unless she ends up on the block and has to negotiate with Baller LOL

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 11:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
Out with the dictionary again.

Fornication is sexual intercourse between a man and womam not married to to each other.

Sure sounds like "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

Now look up relations....

My point is that without sin we wouldn't need forgivness.

We can pick HG's and past presidents apart all we want. What we need to understand is forgiveness.

I did more dictionary searhes and I will not type it all here.

Nat understands forgiveness.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 11:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
I'm again listening to Natalie talking about how God will take his revenge on .......... fill in the name. I'm sick of it. I've never liked it other years and I don't like it now. I don't mind her having a simple faith or "baby faith" and I don't mind her using the bible for strength. I just can't take every time she's on the feeds she's searching and picking out words in verses to apply to what she's thinking about the other people. Are the other people acting disgusting? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! However, they are not using the bible to justify they are the "good people." Every year people do this and as I stated, I don't like it, but I seem to always catch her doing it on BBAD and it drives me batty. (Not that I'm not already batty! lol) Probably that she reads out loud at a manic rate has a lot to do with it.

Every year it gets to the point of people doing this, but I've never seen those people do some of the things Natty has done in the house, sexually and exposing herself. Did I do things I regret when I was young? Of course! What I didn't do was use the bible to put other people down nor did I find myself as a "good person" because of it. Actually, I usually regretting my behavior the next day! I can even accept her finding verses to read literally to suit her thoughts, but what I cannot accept, is her judging Josh's salvation because he is gay. How can being gay be a sin when it's not a choice any more than the color of your eyes is not your choice? I don't know a single gay person who didn't at first start out wishing they weren't gay. Their life would be so much easier. I'm not judging Natalie's faith, her goodness, nor her salvation. I'm am stating I don't like her actions in judging Josh and her reading/justifications/telling the future using the bible, drives me crazy.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, March 21, 2008 - 11:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Nat may understand Forgiveness for her past sins...but then why does she continue to actively pursue them relentlessly?

I for one did NOT miss the Night she was begging for Cum in the mouth since she needs the protein??

Adam and Ryan were just killing themselves laughing.