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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 9:52 am
Missyb, at least they all had the same chances to win because the question was to all of them. The tie breaker was a no-brainer. I bet Sharon is smacking herself for putting such a low number down.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 10:58 am
I think Julie's delay could simply have been the result of someone forgetting to be in place to push the button that displayed "The Guinea Pigs" text overlay. I think its very possible that the delay was the result of someone falling asleep at the wheel as it were...whether it was Julie or a production tech. I would be more willing to accept the conspiracy thought if there were no other possible explaination for the delay. In my mind, there are other possible explanations... production error being the most plausable in my mind.
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Marmosquirm
Member
09-10-2003
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 5:37 pm
Missy, that's a really good point. I mean who knows whether the thing was rigged or not. I don't think we'll ever know that. It's just a shame that was a question in such an important HOH comp.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 6:42 pm
I think BB wanted James to stay...look how they changed up the rules on that voting someone back in crap....and I think they were pissed that Nat got him out. Maybe they tried to convince her to keep him and she refused. I dont know but it was quite clear from the previous nights DR to the questions that Julie asked
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 6:55 pm
Seems we've lost the whole meaning of Big Brother.....so I looked it up. also Big Brother An omnipresent, seemingly benevolent figure representing the oppressive control over individual lives exerted by an authoritarian government. A state, organization, or leader regarded in this manner then Went to authoritian govornment.} 1. favoring complete obedience or subjection to authority as opposed to individual freedom: authoritarian principles; authoritarian attitudes. 2. of or pertaining to a governmental or political system, principle, or practice in which individual freedom is held as completely subordinate to the power or authority of the state, centered either in one person or a small group that is not constitutionally accountable to the people. 3. exercising complete or almost complete control over the will of another or of others: an authoritarian parent. Seems to me that controlling is the entire concept of BB.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 8:07 pm
That's how I see it, Sabbatia. Manipulation in the DR is quintessential Big Brother.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 3:32 am
I agree that the concept of BB is being controlled and manipulated by an "unseen", ever present authority. I also agree that BB intervenes and manipulates the HG's throughout the game. I'm just not sure the HOH GP question was one of them...
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 4:34 am
If we go back to the concept of BB controlling the HG, then that needs to be shown on TV, it should be a part of the show. This omnipotent power called BB should be a part of each TV show...if that is what BB is about. But they Do Not show any controlling by BB, they go out of their way to hide all manipulation by BB, so that can not be what the show is about. So then, the show must be about a group of people who enter this house to live together and form relationships and must vote some one out each week. It must be about their interactions and behaviors in this secluded enviroment. BUT it is not, not really, because BB is behind the scenes controlling and manipulating. So we do not see the HG true reactions/actions, we only see the outcome of the unknown manipulations. So what the heck is this show suppose to be about???
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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 4:49 am
Any number of things could have happened with the GP question. Julie could have seen the answer, was surprised by it so she asked for clarity, and then continued. Her throat could have closed up and she needed water. There could have been some technical glitch at the time. There could have been mic issues. They could have been having trouble with the live caption that revealed to us that it was the GPs, so they had to wait for it to work correctly. To say that what happens "proves" they are "fixing" the game on the fly is quite a leap as what happened doesn't "prove" anything. What happened does raise suspicions and questions, but it didn't "prove" anything one way or another. At least not by the definition of "proof" that I'm aware of.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 6:08 am
Bo, I would love that!! Show us behind the scenes, show us how certain questions are asked to screw with their heads! LOL It would be great to see the producers talking to camera saying 'the boys want to keep Nat, we want Sharon to stay, watch as we make the boys do our dirty work' LOL
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Goldsam
Member
07-21-2005
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 6:28 am
I agree that would be interesting to see. I would also LOVE to see a "after the finale" type show when all houseguests have seen the season. Would Natalie still be crazy over Matt after seeing/hearing what he said about her and knowing full well that he kissed Sharon etc. Would houseguests have voted the same way? etc. I often wonder if they regret certain moves, moments, alliances etc. I know Julie usually asks about regrets but that is fresh on the heals of eviction when emotions are running high. I would like to hear their feelings after it all digests and they've seen the truth.
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 6:51 am
Seems we've lost the whole meaning of Big Brother.....so I looked it up. IMO, that's not the meaning of *endemol's* Big Brother - it's the meaning of AG's Big Brother the original concept of BB wasn't like this - AG has morphed it into something somewhat controllable by her, and not what endemol created.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 7:05 am
I have to agree with Boberg and Tvwatcher. The show around the world SHOWS the DR talking to the HG, the viewers are in on it. This is what I resent about the AG version of BB. Also, if a HG ever gives BB a hard time or talks about nominations to the other HG, or just misbehaves in general, in the original version of BB, they are punished and possibly evicted. In the US version they are pampered beyond belief! They are given toys, they have a jacuzzi, pool, washing machine, etc! They are way too friendly with the DR people, even knowing their names. I don't think the contestants know the DR people by name in the UK or Australian version. I WANT the DR & BB to manipulate the HG, but if they want to have paying viewers, then they should cater to OUR needs!
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 7:30 am
I watched the Australian BB a few years ago, and their BB doesn't take any lip! If they so much as cracked a smile while being disciplined, in a very stern voice BB would be like "do you find this funny?", and their punishment would be increased. I want THAT BB on BB U.S.!
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 9:12 am
Proof that BB wants Sheila and Adam to be tired for the POV by chaining them together. Ryan and Sharon had a full nights rest.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 9:23 am
I must be in the minority... but I don't mind. I LIKE BB's interference and shake ups. I think it keeps the HG's on their toes and makes the show less predictable. Even when my favorite gets the boot (bye Nat ) But my feelings aside on this matter, I still think Endemol has the right to interpret the Big Brother concept any way they want... its their show!! ETA: I would also love to have a more stern, no nonsense, no crap taking BB... I think that would be a hoot and would make the spoiled brat wannabes think twice about applying...
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Teenangel
Member
02-16-2008
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 9:41 am
TV and Rosem, I could not agree more with you. I love BB but I do not like the way it is being handled as of the past few seasons. I do not like the way the hgs are pampered, it's boring. I do not approve of their behavior in the house towards BB or the other hgs. These hgs are totally disrespectful to BB and the viewers as well as each other. I do not like the way BB calls them out in the DR (supposedly) and gives them warnings that are never followed up on and mean nothing to them or us. I do not want to see another season of the hgs being treated in the manner as Jen or Natalie have been treated. I hated the way Adria was treated but at least it was within the confines of the rules (I guess) and not a physical attack. I do not want Bibles in the BB house, not because I disapprove of them in there but because it causes too many problems and should just simply be removed.(I can keep my faith and belief in God whether I have my bible with me or not), and I don't think religion should be a part of this so-called game especially since it is based on lies anyway. As far as pampering goes, I want to see them work or earn what they get. I do not want to see slop, I want to see food earned. I do not want to see them complain about who does all the work, I want to see them all doing the work. If BB wants to control, I agree, then Control is what they should do. But if they are going to control, then it should be complete control and not just pick and choose what to control in order to get the results they want. OK, got that off my chest, whatever happens happens and if its my time to go, so be it. lol
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Sincebb1
Member
08-22-2005
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 10:59 am
Bo,Teen,Tv,Rosem,Kep...could not agree more! In other country's versions of BB we get to see the DRs and the manipulations. I am OK with BB interfering only IF we get to see it! Because otherwise it is no longer about the manipulation of the HGs, but more about the manipulation of the TV audience. I also agree that the "cast" no longer shows any respect or fear of consequences. They are given everything and do nothing but whine. I agree on no slop/peanut butter etc. Just make them work for their food. And I am also tired of them being able to attack each other with water, flour, tea etc. Or being able to hide, ruin, stain, cut up other's personal property. Is BB so lacking in creative input that they have to depend on these types of incidents for entertainment? More discipline in general would be nice. If they started actually giving out penalty's instead of only threatening... Gold..love that idea too. All the other shows have a "reunion" show. Why not BB? Maybe because they are afraid that the HGs will out the brainwashing techniques that took place in the DR? HA!
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 11:31 am
I love the idea too! Just look at Survivor, Jeff tells everybody at TC about how everybody else is playing and basically telling them what they should be thinking. Unfortunately, for Ozzy, some don't pay attention.
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 11:39 am
We are suppose to be one the outside looking in, but that is really not possible. I really believe that there are certain things that are being done in order to have the outcome the producers want. That is one of the reasons why I really believe that the viewers should have the opportunity to vote like in the first BB. I do not understand how some viewers are disagreeing saying that the houseguests gave up a portion of their lives to be on this show. Don't we as the audience do the same thing? To be honest after Natalie was evicted I was able to catch up on a lot, and I mean a lot, of things. To me if they really are playing fair and not encouraging the houseguests to do certain things then they should show us everything. Bathrooms and showers should be off limits for privacy issues, but the DR should be seen by us all. I am so tired of the flames and all of that trivia; really is it going to help me win $500,000? I think not, so just show us all what we really want to see. They can not blame the people they put on this show if their ratings are sagging, show more of what we want to see and stop yanking at our chains...
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 11:54 am
wow... a rebellion....the premise of BB comes full circle!!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 12:41 pm
One of the reasons they don't show the DR or the competitions on the Live Feeds is if they did that then no one would have any serious reason to watch the TV show. Lower ratings = no Big Brother.
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 1:05 pm
You can have your opinion and I can have mine. Why get so excited over something you have no say of, where is is stated that you could not post your thoughts???? Just my thoughts on the subject...By the way I was referring to Live Feeds subscriptions not actually CBS television.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 1:16 pm
who got excited??
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 2:00 pm
Just using excited, but no one was excited. I am just tired of all of the drama surrounding this BB. I think that if they were to have the Live Feed subscribers view at the least 23hrs of feed a day then that would make a big difference in wondering if things are happening that we do not know about. When you subscribe you are suppose to get 24/7 feeds but in reality that is more like 19/7 with all of the flames and trivia. It would be wonderful to a the least have feeds for 23hrs, therefore, leaving a lot of the drama a bay...Just my honest thoughts...
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