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Spunky
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10-08-2001

Monday, April 07, 2008 - 4:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I prefer it this way... when those I was hoping for to last till the end are all gone I am less frustrated while watching the tv show, since I don't much care for those who are left I can simply sit back and not care who goes on the block or what they'll do to save themselves. I have to keep watching because then I cannot compare the whole season to previous ones, once they got me started watching I have to keep watching even if I don't care anymore about who's left.
Actually, there is a bit of satisfaction seeing how only 1 of the remaining 5 (after James) will win in the end.
So, I think James is lucky to enjoy 2 weeks vacation while the other 4 will have to struggle some more without that much vacation time...

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Monday, April 07, 2008 - 4:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
The show has been going just like every past season that AG has been producing.

The DR has been trying to run the game not guide the game.

Edits are not for entertainment as much as for swaying public opinion of certain HG's.

Comps designed for specific HG's to win.

AG is stealing any integrity that BB has left.

If the summer edition even smells like they are going to rig it I will be done with BB forever.

Caramella
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07-20-2002

Monday, April 07, 2008 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caramella a private message Print Post    
Great post, Beek! Its VERY hard for me to even think about pulling for James based on his actions in the house. Now I didn't even know about him peeing in the bathroom sink and spreading his sperm......YUCK!!!! But it just looks like CBS is counting on his "homeless" persona, who's riding a bike around the world to appeal to the audience who doesnt have access to see him in live action. I don't have the feeds, but I do watch BBAD, and I've seen the nasty fakeness that is James on more than one occassion. It's been obvious AG & co. have chosen him as their favorite, and he's been allowed to to get away with some things that should've gotten him kicked out of the house. I personally feel the America's Choice was geared toward him getting back in the game once they realized he was being eliminated. We all know that it was originally set up for one of the 6 evicted HGs to return, but once the Pink haired Golden Boy was voted out...they found a way to get him back in the game. I still say BB knows these HGs, and probably knew most of them were scared to bring back in someone that had been out of the game for awhile.


All I know is i'll be happy to see him walk out of the door on Wednesday, and will not miss him. I think the show will be just fine without him, because the other players will start playing for themselves since its getting down to the wire. At this point i'm pulling for Ryan or Natalie to win. Adam kinda messed up this week, and Sheila and Sharon both just bug me...

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Monday, April 07, 2008 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
I really think it would make good TV to show James talking about how taking welfare is a good thing when you're perfectly able to work and I don't know why they didn't show that side of him more. I don't always understand their editing and the reasons for which way they decide to portray a character.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, April 07, 2008 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I was wondering if we are all just getting older and further away from remembering what it feels like to be in our early 20s.

Blair
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07-28-2005

Monday, April 07, 2008 - 7:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Blair a private message Print Post    
I know I didn't act like that in my 20s and it wasn't that long ago. I don't think it really has to do with the age difference. I know people in their late 30, early 40s who act like this if they don't get their way. It comes down to upbringing and how much people let them get away with. Someone like Chelsia or James is not going to stop what they are doing if their intimidation tactics get them what they want.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, April 07, 2008 - 7:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I remember what it was like being in my early twenties...over thirty years ago.
And I've got three sons who are around mid twenties.

lol...not sure exactly what your point is, Pamy, but in keeping in the vein of this thread, I would have to say that if they ALL are in their early twenties next season, perhaps This Time I Really Am Done. LOL

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, April 07, 2008 - 7:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Bee, LOL I know in my mind what I was thinking, just didnt come out right LOL

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Monday, April 07, 2008 - 8:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
I will continue watching BB because I like it.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, April 07, 2008 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I know exactly what you mean, Pamy. LOL

Angelbleu
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06-22-2005

Monday, April 07, 2008 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelbleu a private message Print Post    
For some reason this year I feel I need a shower after "trying" to read the feeds...I mostly just look at the screencaps. This is from a person that has watched since season 1 and would read every word I could find about the season and had the feeds on as much as I could... this season I cancelled them after 2 weeks. The next season better be much better than this or I am completely done with it.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 4:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Nope, I'm not done yet.

Although I think this season's cast isn't the best, I still enjoy BB.

I don't mind the manipulations by BB because I think it keeps the players off balance and adds interest to the game. Besides, the producers are not always able to get their desired results. Case in point: To me it was very apparent BB was trying to keep James in the game and, although the manipulations by the DR caused drama, James is still leaving this week. I think BB's interference with the game actually improves my entertainment.

I'm also in agreement with BB's decisions to NOT show James, or Chelsia, or any of the others at their absolute worst. I think (and I believe BB does too) that it wouldn't be right to ruin someone's reputation (or future) over something said during a game.

James' statements about obtaining welfare are only statements, not actual proof. If aired publicly, those statements could possibly open him up for prosecution if others thought they amounted to confessions of defrauding the government.


Since BB only airs 3 times a week, I don't think there is enough time to air everything about the players, and I think BB's decision to omit the really bad stuff about players is a good one.

Ecoop
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07-07-2005

Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 6:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ecoop a private message Print Post    
As an avid fan since the first season, I too am about done with BB. I no longer get the feeds or watch BBAD. I do keep up with the live feeds by reading a couple of boards, mainly Jokers. I come here for discussion of the live feeds and topics like this one.

I don't think AG will ever be able to cast this show with "real" people. Those real people have lives. Who in their right mind would sign up, knowing how we on the internet tear the participants apart?

Mama2oliviamae
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08-16-2006

Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 6:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mama2oliviamae a private message Print Post    
Kep, ITA. TY for the articulate post! (Except I'm still not convinced on BB or DR manipulating the game that much. lol)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think that is a very good point, Ecoop. There was an innocence and naivete about the first season's houseguests that can probably never be recaptured now that people on the show have preconceptions about the experience and expectations.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 7:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
Kep, I totally agree with you whole post.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 7:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Aside from the obvious "exposure" that the houseguests receive (and the expectations to be famous), I just don't think there are that many "real" people willing to give up (potentially) three months of their lives to live in a house and be filmed 24/7. I don't think we "tear the participants apart." I think if they didn't do or say things, then there would be nothing to comment on. Since the advent of BBAD, it's obvious that the houseguests are playing to the cameras.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 7:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I agree. "Real people" with families and careers can rarely afford to drop three months out of their lives. Plus they know they will end up looking bad because you can probably count the people who have come out of this experience looking good on the fingers of one hand. Sooner or later you will screw up and say or do something bad or someone else on the show with nothing to lose will goad you into doing something bad. Anyone with a career and family can't afford that and doesn't need or want the risk and the hassle associated with it.

Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 6:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cablejockey a private message Print Post    
I guess if I get out my head the idea that this is any sort of 'reality', I could enjoy the show for what it is--entertainment of a sort. Still, I cant help but feel horrified at times about the way the hgs are behaving. I think a lot of the anger, bitterness, and meaness is true to the hg's nature. Some of it is so intense, it has to be real and not some kind of game play strategy. At times I am so fed up with it all, I cant follow it, or want to. Other times, i find it fascinating.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
It is not so much the cast that turns me off this season. I don't think they are all that different from other seasons.

I like the TC group in spite of their religious silliness. And at least they take it lighthearted and laugh at themselves about it unlike some in the past.

I do not like James. Even without the feeds and favorable editing he is said to recieve, he has turned me off from the beginning. Not sure why, I just found him smug and self pretentious.

Does Shelia ever have an idea of her own? It seems she flip flops to whoever talks to her last. Adam too. Maybe they really are soulmates. LOL

I did not like the couples idea. I thought it was nonsense. Way too maney drawbacks to the whole idea, and the way it was done as "soulmates" was just silly.

I think it is more a redisual effect from last season that has made me not get into this season so much. I got so involved and spent so much time on watching the feeds, I think I had a BB overload. And I found myself getting angry about the people in the show. And I did not like that. No TV show should have that much effect on my life. If they had not had another season until the summer, it might have been different.

I still watch and probably always will, but it is not the center of my existance. I will not allow it to.

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 8:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
I SO wish the Australian BB would come over and show them how it's done! Their BB doesn't take any crap - the season I watched, I could see that their BB doesn't try to encourage a story line - their BB is a strict stern BB - they have rules and by golly, you better obey them or else! There's no warning after warning after warning. Not wearing your mic? BAM! Singing? BAM! Cooking when you're not the designated cook? BAM! Shoving your tallywhacker in someone's face? OUT THE DOOR! Even though the woman was a willing participant.

THAT'S Big Brother! None of this "don't do that. I said don't do that. How many times do I have to tell you not to do that? I really mean it this time.".

blah.

grumble.



Vickie
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07-16-2004

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vickie a private message Print Post    
As the years of bb go by they are more and more pampered. At the onset(bb1) they didn't even have a clock.

Now they get just about anything they want and if they don't boy it becomes piss and moan.

Even in BB1 Hollywood had the expectation of making it big in show biz. So you can't get away with that.

I have taken BB off my DVR and am just stopping in here every now and then. They are taking James out and that was it for me. I have not liked anyone this year. James is a free spirit and like anyone has his problems. He to me was the most likeable.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I think if they didn't do or say things, then there would be nothing to comment on.

But don't we all do or say things that perhaps shouldn't? And for those that don't do or say such things, I think we would then criticize them as being too nice or not playing the game. I am just glad that I don't have a camera recording my every move 24/7 and them having millions of people critique my behaviors...

Lafatme
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06-23-2005

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lafatme a private message Print Post    
if "real" people weren't willing to do the show then where do the contestants for survivor and race, and idol come from?

offer $$$ to the winner and people will show up for auditions.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I'll never forget the Aussie BB experience I had down under, it was a delightful tv show (2005)and one the twin brothers won. Yes, their BB is strict, they had to pay some money back to BB if they did something against the rules.
The gang were all twentysomething and more like a love fest, none of the animosity that I see in BB USA, and the host was more fun than our Julie is. It seems to me almost like a different BB in a different planet, how could those young people be so much fun while these are so frustrating.

I hope Aussie BB never jumps the shark.

Or maybe I hope our BB here gets better...