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Bubba
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07-29-2005

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 8:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bubba a private message Print Post    
Llkoolaid, "ya think? interesting" LOL

Lajonesin
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03-22-2008

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 8:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lajonesin a private message Print Post    
Well, you can't really 'edit' it when it actually comes out of their mouth. And how is Nat the brain of her group? She voted James back in and got Matt evicted, runs around playing both sides and gets caught, is uber-cocky to the point of losing votes....She's not that smart. She's lucky!

Bubba
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07-29-2005

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 8:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bubba a private message Print Post    
Do you think that non-live feeders would know from watching the show that Natalie has been the brains of her alliance or that she has been loyal to them from the start?

Klaw I have the live feeds and I don't know that.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I think the diary room made her say that she will win the show, just like they made her say that she left Adam's HOH room because she had said all she wanted to say (and not that they had called her to the DR). Sharon also said in the diary room last night that she would win the game. They probably all did (because they were probably all told to), and then the editors chose to show only Nat and Sharon.

Mama2oliviamae
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08-16-2006

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mama2oliviamae a private message Print Post    
Klaw, I respectfully disagree.

I don't believe it was that old, edited or sarcastic. It's my opinion that she really believes that she's SOOOO great that everyone will "give"her the 1/2 mil just because they love her.

I did not detect an ounce of sarcasm in her voice nor was it choppy for BB editing.

She is thinking in a delusional manner & will be shocked to sh*t when she comes out of the house to find out she is not the next Janelle.

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    
Lajonesin.

It was Gods work that got Matt evicted because he lied to Nat ....

Neeta
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04-01-2008

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neeta a private message Print Post    
did no one get the comments that Nat was making when James was pestering her? She said if you dont defend me and I get HOH you will go on the block.How is that for arrogance? MY OPINION only............

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Neeta, I was thinking it just wasn't a very smart thing to threaten. She is naive in my opinion.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Exactly, Merry...thank you!!!

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 11:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Klaw the way they edited Natalie last night is how I see her, actually it is even nicer than I see her, but if I were her fan I would say they weren't being fair.

Ll, I hear you and respect your opinion. However, fair, to me, would have been showing how the real "girls alliance" started in the first place (Sharon), showing Sharon and Sheila cornering her in the sauna room asking who she would nominate, showing Sharon then using it to get Adam/Ryan to turn on her. Even more important than that, it would have been fair to show Natalie telling the boys all about the "girls alliance" when she was HOH!!! BB has made it seem like Natalie has turned on her alliance when, in fact, she has not and that Sharon is a good religious girl!!! Yes, Natalie has been playing the other side too, but she always reported back to her alliance. Natalie was set up by James, Sharon, and Sheila. I am just shocked that Adam, Ryan, and Sheila so easily fell into Sharon's hands. JMO.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
I'm 45 and a single MOM. Give me the money!

I soooooo deserve it for putting up with this crap.

On the other hand Shelia has manuvered well.

Nat has grown the most in the house. At least she tries to learn.

I would so enjoy it if Nat and Shelia were in the final 2.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
As for Natalie being the brains of her alliance, Adam was going to put Sheila on the block during his first HOH when he didn't have the numbers to protect her. Natalie had to point that out.

During Adam's second HOH, he didn't realize that the risk of not putting James on the block was James could win POV, and save Sharon causing one of his alliance to be evicted. Natalie had to point that out. He did it anyway only to regret it and throw a POV.

Neither Ryan nor Adam realized that James wanted Chelsia evicted so he could work with Josh. Natalie had to point that out.

Sheila has completely fell into Sharon's hands and the two of them successfully made Natalie out to be a liar. Neither Ryan nor Adam realize that Sharon is setting them all up for her to be in the F2. Natalie is the only one who realizes Sharon and Sheila are working together and will betray the boys. She tried to warn them and they didn't believe her. If Ryan/Adam/Sheila follow through with this and lose this to Sharon, they did it to themselves. They can't say Natalie didn't warn them...

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Natalie was the first one who pointed out to her alliance that for any of TC to be guaranteed a win, they would have to take someone from the other side to the final two. (meaning there would be 4 TC members on the Jury as opposed to 3 in the "other" alliance)

I think Ryan was the only one who finally let that sink in and is now setting something up with Sharon to go to the final two.

If Ryan is successful, Sharon will have Chelsia, Josh and James voting from her alliance. Ryan should have Mat, Nat, Sheila and Adam...

I remember the look of confusion on Ryan, Shelia and Adam's faces when Nat first pointed this out.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Kep, if Ryan wins POV, saves Adam, and sends Natalie packing, I would be surprised if she would vote for him. I would also be surprised if Sheila would vote for Ryan knowing he took $10,000.00 from her and Jen also won money. Sheila seems to be closer to Sharon than Ryan. JMO.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
And people don't think Nat's smart.

Personaly I would take my chances as the 4 including Sharon would have to vote for one of them.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
That's totally possible Klaw... I was just talking about Nat's working the numbers...

Nat was thinking at the time that her alliance was strong and would remain loyal to each other, even through the eviction processes. I also think that Ryan picked up the numbers idea and is working it.

Personally I don't think Nat will turn on any of her alliance...even if they do gang up to get her out. Nat is loyal to others...even when they aren't to her. I see Nat accepting it as part of the game and rooting for her side...

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Csnog, I agree that Ryan and Adam would be better off going with the original alliance at this point. James made it clear he will not vote for Natalie or Ryan at the end. If it's the two of them, I believe Ryan would win. Adam would most likely win over Natalie, Ryan, and Sheila. He would most likely win against Sharon too, but she has not promised him F2 and he has to beat her first. If it comes down to Sheila/Sharon, I believe Sheila would win. The problem is Sharon has promised both Ryan and Sheila F2. I believe she would take Ryan over Sheila. JMO.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Kep, you're probably right. How sad is that though? Blech! Although she is a good gamer, she seems to care more about friendship than the money. I never would have dropped if it were me.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
Klaw, thanks for explaining how the girls alliance got started, I couldn't remember. As for the editing, the problem is BB edits it the way they want. I agree Natalie does have some good qualities and she is probably the most loyal one there. I meant when I said that they edited her the way I see her is what I don't like about her and to be honest here I probably like it because I don't like her, ya know what I mean. I think a lot of us just see the good things in the people we like and choose to ignore or excuse the bad things and do the opposite with the ones we dislike. I try to be fair but obviously I am not always.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
How much of an effect do you all think Julie's questions to Natalie about her faith had on her when she gave the HoH to Sheila? I think it had to make her think the viewers had been talking about her, so I think it probably was the main reason she gave up the HoH after Sharon pushed her on it.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Ll, you're welcome. I think you're fair . That's actually one of the things I really like about your posts. You're not a Natalie fan, yet you still see some of her good qualities. I try to do the same, but gosh is it ever hard some times...lol. I am still bummed that we didn't see a James/Natalie F2...ahh how great that would have been!!! The worst F2 for me would be to see Sharon/Ryan.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 1:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Kitt, very interesting. I didn't even think of that! Between that and Sharon saying it's the Christian thing to do (giving the HOH to Sheila), you might be right. I was so mad at Sharon for even getting involved. That should have been a clue for Natalie darnit . Thankfully, Natalie still has a chance to redeem herself with POV.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
Kitt I think you are right on about it, I heard natalie talking about the question, she talked about it several times and as for Sharon she said she kept pushing the Christian thing to put Natalie on the spot, she said it was deliberate.

I think Natalie is gonna fight like heck for the pov, I won't be surprised if she wins.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
The POV is likely to be that morphomatic one too, if they do that this year, and I think she'll be good at that. Sharon is pretty observant but Natalie clearly had an eye for it, and that would probably give her a time advantage.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
Llkoolaid, what was Nat saying when she talked about the question?

I'm curious because when Julie asked Nat the question last night, I wondered if it'd make Nat ponder on how she is being perceived and make her wonder if America is annoyed by all the religion talk. I'm very curious to know how Nat perceives the question.