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Marameko
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07-15-2002

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
I don't know about hatred, but definitely some jealousy up in the BB house. Give me a break, between S/S they were practically begging Nat to drop.Accept it Shelia was given this HOH, and Nat needs to be smacked upside her head.
Lok what doing that got nat.........nada, zip, nothing but being on the block.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    

quote:

Sure, there is a difference between real stripping in a club and in a movie. However, this is also a HUGE difference in doing nude pictures in a shoot such as Penthouse, with what I call gynological type pictures AND also doing soft corn porn movies than what Nat did. So... which line do you draw when you are judging them?


I don't judge them. What they've done outside of the house is OUTSIDE of the house. I judge their actionsd INSIDE of the house, as part of the game.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
As I posted in another thread, to me whether Natalie "gave it to her" or not is irrelevant. Convincing someone else to give you the HOH is just as good game play as winning it through a test of strength and she deserves it just as much as if she had won it any other way. It is all part of the game.

Carmenv
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04-14-2006

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 8:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carmenv a private message Print Post    
I agree with Jimmer. I mean, Sheila managed to stay up long enough so that making deals and "giving" her the HOH was even an option. If Sheila had gone out right away, it wouldn't even have been an issue. But Sheila stayed up long enough that Nat had to deal with it one way or another, and it was her choice to drop. And in the end, it is going to come back to bite her.

I see it as being all about arrogance. Nat was just so sure she was safe with everyone in that house, and was so convinced she was running that house, that I don't think she even considered the fact that the boys might turn on her. No one forced her down from that box. It was her choice.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 3:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
<76> Nat had a very hard time coming down from that box because she didn't trust that she would be safe.
Nat was bugging them in that box, but Sheila was bugging me big time. I wanted to slap that hateful look right off her face. Sheila was acting like she deserved it because she hadn't seen any pic of her boy.

Muffin
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08-29-2007

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 3:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Muffin a private message Print Post    
I could be wrong, but I think it was Natalie who first brought up the subject to Ryan and Sheila about making a deal while in the box. If she was doing so well, then why even mention it. If she could have gone on all nite, then there was no point in their discussion. She might have been having a few problems, and was surprised that both Ryal and Sheila were still hanging in there.

2boysrule
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03-25-2008

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 4:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send 2boysrule a private message Print Post    
Wow, I totally agree with you Carmenv and Muffin !!!

I think Nat makes the deals when she is weakening and she probably was shocked Ryan and Sheila were hanging on...I know I was!!!

Also, I think Nat talks so much about how strong she is, she has everybody convinced...she's a good competitor but definitely not the best...she was actually disappointing with some of the comps she was in ( I know she missed a few POV's & sd she would have won if she was competing)but the chronological dates, the measurement comp & the morph were supposed to be hers...???


Bbnine
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02-16-2008

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnine a private message Print Post    
I agree with you Deneee .... especiall about that look on her face ...
I used to like her .... she is acting more like James everyday ...
she seems to feel she has some kind of entitlement since she has a kid ... she knew she had a Birthday coming and would get somthing from her family ... which she did! I have become so sick of her , I can only handle so much of reading the LF becasue the majority of it is Sheila bashing Nat .... non stop.

I can't wait till her a$$ gets booted out that door ... and it couldn't be fast enouph for me.... I wanted her gone yesterday.

Peepinagain
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07-23-2005

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 5:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Peepinagain a private message Print Post    
I for one believe Nat was ready to drop but wanted to make Sheila feel she was giving the HOH to her. Its a manipulation but there is no way Nat would've dropped unless she was going to drop anyway, she just made the deals first. She did the same to James when she made the deal. She couldn't make up her mind and then when she started slipping she screams I'll take the deal, which was actually while she was falling to the mat. There was no way Nat could've stayed up longer than James. James knew if he dropped he was going home no matter what.

Bbnine
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02-16-2008

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 5:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnine a private message Print Post    
I don't think Nat was ready to drop at all ..... she most definately could have outlasted sheila .... Nat is just very trusting and she thought she had her alliance behind her.

and being so trusting .... the coaxing by sharon and ryan making her feel guilty for not giving poor shiela the HOH ... becasue she is a mom and has a kid and is the ONLY one who hasn't seen not one picture of her family ..... bla bla bla bla .... I thought for sure a violin was going to come out and be played with all sheilas whining ..... That wasn't a TRUE win for sheila at all.

Peepinagain
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07-23-2005

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 5:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Peepinagain a private message Print Post    
Nah, I think Nat talks a good game but I think she knew she wouldn't outlast Sheila this time. Don't forget how bad she said her legs hurt and how she hurt all over when the comp was over. Sheila said she wasn't sore at all. The only thing a little sore was her back from the glass. They all had a conversation earlier about how strong Sheila's legs were. I think Ry was doing all the talking then. He said I bet you could out run all of us. Sheila said she could and talked about how strong her legs are etc. but no upper body strength.

Nat just said she 'gave' the HOH to Sheila to undermine Sheila and her confidence.

Bbnine
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02-16-2008

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 5:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnine a private message Print Post    
Nat was a rock up there!

Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 5:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Nat was solid. It was Sheila struggling and having to change positions. I watched the whole thing.

Peepinagain
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07-23-2005

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Peepinagain a private message Print Post    
I watched too. Sheila was switching positions for her back, it was her legs that were holding her. Sheila said her legs weren't sore after but Nat said her legs were hurting in fact she was sore everywhere. Nat just puts up a good front.

Steeltoe
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05-19-2007

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 5:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Steeltoe a private message Print Post    
Natalie took the high road and decided to give Sheila a break. She let her have the HOH, and to be honest it really did not look like Shiela was supporting herself in that box the way the others were. Several times Nat told her that she was not allowed to hold on a certain way. So, yes, I do believe that Nat could have outlast her by hours. I wanted to reach through the screen to yell at Natalie that she should not make any sort of deal with Sheila. Adam appeared to not want Natalie to fall because he knew what Sheila had planned.

But the worst part of it all is that Sheila knowing that Natalie is in her alliance, would chose Sharon before her. This HOH should have never happened she did not deserve anything from Natalie. From the outside looking in, I knew that once she had the power she would turn on Natalie, she clearly does not like the way Adam is with Natalie and that makes her GREEN WITH ENVY...

Peepinagain
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07-23-2005

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 5:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Peepinagain a private message Print Post    
Naw, Sheila wanted Nat out from the beginning as well as Chelsia. She knew they would come after her and Nat will and she admitted that. IF Nat gave it to Sheila how stupid was that? I thought Nat was better than that. I can't believe she's a Saint just giving away HOHs. Nope she pretended she could stay and when she realized it was going to be a long night she folded. End of story.

Steeltoe
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05-19-2007

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 5:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Steeltoe a private message Print Post    
Nat did not look at all uneasy in the glass house. Sheila on the other hand looked very uneasy and there was no way she would have outlast Natalie...No way.

Peepinagain
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07-23-2005

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Peepinagain a private message Print Post    
Nat's a good bluffer.

Steeltoe
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05-19-2007

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 5:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Steeltoe a private message Print Post    
There was no bluff involved. The only thing that Natalie might have bluff about was that her legs hurt. If you pay attention she only says she was hurting after someone else says the same thing. She did not want them to know that she could have gone for hours. She did not wiggle, struggle, or make any nervous movements. Natalie was like a permanent fixture in that glass house.

Caramella
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07-20-2002

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 5:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caramella a private message Print Post    
Peep, I gotta disagree with you there. Not saying that Nat is the greatest at comps....but I think she really had Sheila beat at this one. Sheila can brag about how strong her legs are and how she could've gone another hour all she wants. If this was really true, then she didn't need to beg for HOH by using her son and B-day as an excuse. She knew she couldn't hang, but wanted to be able to have that power for ONE WEEK. Then now that she's had it, she has allowed it to go to her head. There is no way i'd ever say she won that HOH fair and square. Then we've got the house flunkie, Sharon to throw Christianity at Natalie as a means of her dropping. Like I said if Sheila was such a tough competitor we would've seen it by now. She knew deep down she couldn't win that HOH, but of course bringing up her son and Birthday were going to give her sympathy. Sorry to say, but Sheila has been transparent since the day she walked in the BB house. I can't wait til she leaves the house....

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 5:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
I didn't think Natalie was having any trouble staying up in the box either. I think had she chose to stay up there she would have won the HOH.

BUT I also don't think she gave it to Sheila entirely out of the goodness of her heart. I think that was part of it...Natalie does have empathy for people (James crying), but I believe Natalie started thinking about not being able to compete the following week. Thinking her alliance with Ryan and Adam was intact, and wanting Sheila to be able to get something from home, ultimately led to Natalies (IMO) worst decision.

Sheila <24> whines about EVERYTHING!

Peepinagain
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07-23-2005

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 5:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Peepinagain a private message Print Post    
Sheila never started talking deals until Nat brought it up first and then Ryan. Ryan was done but Nat was sore. I think she was covering a weakness. I'd of done the same thing, trying to make myself look good. You could see it in her eyes, she was struggling but thought if push came to shove she'll just win POV. Nat would've had Sheila up on the block all week and if she didn't go this week it would've been next week. Sheila knew that and she wasn't going anywhere.

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
I just didn't see it in her eyes. She looked to be holding up well to me.

Steeltoe
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05-19-2007

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 6:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Steeltoe a private message Print Post    
Sheila was the one that looked weak, Natalie was the strong looking one. Natalie held firm and did not struggle, so she would have won. If Natalie would have been HOH she would have kept to the plan and tried to take Sharon out...Nat is not like Sheila, Natalie knows how to be loyal and stick to the plan. Remember once they got to the final 4 then they were on their own. Natalie would not have turned...

Peepinagain
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07-23-2005

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 6:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Peepinagain a private message Print Post    
Nah I think Nat is playing the game. She had just as many side deals as Ryan. She would have went whichever way the power went. Unlike Sharon who put herself on the block to save her partner, Nat would never put herself in that position for anyone. Don't fall for the smile and sweet talk, she's playing hard ball.