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Peepinagain
Member
07-23-2005
| Monday, April 14, 2008 - 6:32 pm
Ok listened to it but I think he just threw it in there like f'n this and f'n that. He didn't seem to be making a statement about the jews.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, April 14, 2008 - 8:31 pm
Okay, I finally got a chance to watch and listen. I honestly don't think he was being disparaging to the Jewish people. I think his usual brain-to-mouth filter malfunction thing was going on again. Do I think his words could have been hurtful? Yes. Do I think he was being intentionally hurtful? No, not really. Would I like to see him called out on his wording? Yes, I would. FWIW, I live in a very diverse community. Because of the strong army influence, my neighborhood is made up of Blacks, Whites, Latinos, Koreans, Japanese, Germans, etc. Perhaps it's the class of people, but I've not known them to go around throwing out racial slurs or slang, nor do any of my kids friends. In fact, the only comment even close to one was the comment made to me that my house looked like a foster home because of the many kids of different ethnic groups in and out of my home all the time.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 4:55 am
"Adam-speak" is like the bible in that one statement can be interpreted in so many different ways... I think Adam's actions in the house are the best indicator of his character and heart. In spite of his social fau paux(s), I think Adam has a good character and a good heart... I heart Adam...
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Webchiq
Member
07-11-2005
| Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 7:12 am
I still hold that Adam is a high functioning sufferer of Aspergers, on the autism scale, and I can tell you that they are often socially clumsy and things come out that are totally unexpected. We're really having to work with our son when he just blurts something out that someone else could hear, and that could be hurtful to them. It's hard work to stay on top of it. So, I tend to cut Adam slack because I recognize the disorder. They're super smart about everything else but things often just pop right out of the mouth and they don't even know until someone explains it to them, but it still can pop out of the mouth at unexpected times.
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 7:46 am
I think Adam has the kindest heart in there, heck he has tears for everyone. He plays the tough guy. He is brilliant at times but he is socially inept. I really think it is just a case of "Baller Speak", and although his comments came out callous they were not his intentions, I think he was just relating his grandfathers horrific background. Mame I am so sorry you were hurt by this conversation, I am sure no one would ever want to hurt you, you are one of the kindest people here and sometimes we can forget that things that don't affect us may hurt others deeply. 
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Way2prissy
Member
07-21-2002
| Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 8:19 am
I remember my mother making me watch "Holocaust" when it was on television (1980ish??) because she thought it would be educational and that I should learn to appreciate my freedom. I was only 9 at the time and it was so horrifying that it traumatized me for years. This was a TELEVISION show--I cannot even imagine living through something like that. I had nightmares until I was in high school and could not sleep alone for a long time. Every time I heard a plane overhead, I was convinced someone was bombing us and that a dictator would order me to be taken from my family. My mom feels bad that I was so affected by it...I'm still not able to watch anything about the Holocaust. In case your curious, I am Catholic.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 8:30 am
My sister's first job was in a hospital and she worked with this Polish man. Very, very sweet, kind, giving. I was very young at the time and I, curiously, asked him what those numbers on his arm were. All the adults tried to shush me, but me, being me said well I want to know. He, with tears in his eyes, explained to me the horrors he'd lived through. My first real life experience with the Holocaust will never be forgotten and it does lose something in the retelling by others. I've told the story to my children, but it loses something. we're losing these people with these stories that we need to hear.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 9:17 am
I think it is wonderful that you asked him and that he was able to tell you what happened to him. The more distant the story, the harder it is for people to truly comprehend and fully appreciate the horror of what happened. Even knowing someone that knows someone else who experienced this and talked to them directly about it, helps with the understanding. It is much more meaningful than reading about it in a book.
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Govols
Member
07-19-2005
| Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 6:56 pm
I am mad at Adam for not keeping Natalie. What a bone head. He and Ryan almost bit the dust on the HOH tonite. Would have been bad for them.
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Antkaki
Member
07-20-2005
| Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 7:12 pm
i thought Ryan voted to evict Natalie and Adam voted to evict Sharon, thereby forcing Shelia to make the decision to evict Natalie.
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Lucymac
Member
07-06-2005
| Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 7:12 pm
That's the way I saw it Antkaki. I'm sure Adam voted to evict Sharon.
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 7:15 pm
Adam did vote to evict Sharon...the goodbye messages seemed edited to make it look the other way.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 7:17 pm
I thought that Adam's good-bye message to Natalie made him look like he tried to keep her. Even had a few tears. He was fishing for her vote if he gets F2, no doubt in my mind.
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 7:20 pm
I thought Ryan's sounded like he voted to keep her because he said he tried...Adam's said something about be strategic...which IMO left the impression Ryan was her vote to stay.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 9:23 pm
But weren't the goodbye messages were taped before the boys decided to split their votes? If so, then Adam might have really been intending to vote for her when he taped his message, so if she left, he was thinking it would have been at Ryan's and Sheila's hands.
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Wavewatcher
Member
09-09-2006
| Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 9:33 pm
Adam has lovely eyelashes. Anyone else noticed this?
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 8:45 am
I thought he whispered to Nat when he hugged her that he voted to keep her. Am I wrong?
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 9:22 am
If this guy doesn't wake up and smell... the roses, he may be evicted next. That he's not double guessing Ryan makes me wonder if he's that naive or if he feels guilty he's dealing with Sheila to go to F2 as well and Ryan doesn't know about it. That he doesn't suspect Ryan/Sharon dealing makes me wonder if Ryan really is the better player but I hope Adam will soon find out.
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 4:03 pm
That could be right Merrysea...I hadn't thought about that. I was all ticked off at BB for their slant..lol
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Bbnine
Member
02-16-2008
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 5:42 pm
(((LOSE POV ADAM!!)))
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Friday, April 18, 2008 - 8:44 pm
BBnine... ah Ryan already won POV
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 6:23 am
I hope he's patient until POV ceremony and makes sure he's not going up, then he should wake up and play the way he wants and not the way Ryan wants. If he does evict Sheila because he was forced by Ryan, then he deserves to lose as a puppet shouldn't win.
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Muffin
Member
08-29-2007
| Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 8:22 am
I agree with you Spunky. I am hoping that Adam sees that Ryan demanding that he evict Sheila is because of Ryan having a deal with Sharon. Otherwise, if Ryan and Adam were a true alliance, then Ryan wouldn't care who went home. It would be better for Ryan to send Sharon packing, she is stronger in the comps and she already has 3 sure votes in the jury house. He is better to keep Sheila, yet he wants her out. If Adam can think for himself, he would realize that Ryan is a team with Sharon.
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 10:31 am
Why would Adam evict Shelia? It makes no sense at all. He needs her vote and hates to PO jury members. So what if Ryan is mad he has no intention of taking Adam to final 2 anyway. If Sharon wants to win this thing she needs to convince Ryan to pull her off the block so she can evict Adam. Ryan is also too scared to PO jury members. This whole crew is more worried about making the jury mad than making any strategic moves that might impress the jury.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 11:16 am
He would if Ryan keeps telling him he'll take him to F2... Adam should just tell Sheila (but only after POV ceremony) that it's Ryan who wants her out.
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