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Starving_singer
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03-24-2008

Monday, March 24, 2008 - 9:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Starving_singer a private message Print Post    
Boberg, i am sorry but your post makes me sad. It is never a woman's responsibility to fix the failure of a man. Sometimes a woman is put in a situation where she doesn't have a choice but solve the problem or fight back against a problem a man is causing. But that doesn't mean it should be solely her responsibility her... that is to say, it's scares me that one thinks that it SHOULD actually BE that way. Maybe that's just the way it is, generally speaking, c'est la vie. But I am an existentialist, so I don't agree with oh, 'things are the way they are, c'est la vie.' If one choses to reject the norm, then they shouldn't be damned for that. And maybe most of the people who adhere to the norm will damn then because that's the reality of the man vs. woman world we live in, but I believe that if this mom and that mom and that mom and that mom doesn't want you dating their son, that doesn't mean eventually you won't find that mom who likes you dating their son. And for that, I don't believe in that mentality that it's a woman's responsibility to fix the failure of man. The more people push that mentality, the more it will get increasingly and increasingly unsafe for women in this world

Stopthemadness
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07-15-2005

Monday, March 24, 2008 - 10:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stopthemadness a private message Print Post    
So I guess it amounts to what you choose to ignore, Chelsia's sex acts, or her hypocrisy. Personally I would be more afraid of a hypocrite then a sexual person.

I am sorry Starving but I don't understand your view that what ever one wants to do is allowable and has not consequences, at least that is what I am taking from your posts. But you are allowed to express them as the rest of the people on the board are allowed to express their views.

Victoryrm
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09-20-2007

Monday, March 24, 2008 - 10:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Victoryrm a private message Print Post    
None of this matters because Chelsia wins either way at least this week. If she stays she will still be in the game. If she leaves this week, Natalie and all of America will know she is going to Matt. Natalie will be furious once this fact hits her brain. Winner or looser in life? None of us can predict that much as some of us would like to. However, after seeing Nat's obsession with Matty, we can predict the immidiate future and it's going to be fabulous for BB ratings and Chelsia. Not so much for Natalie.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Monday, March 24, 2008 - 10:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
Starving, I think the mentality among women that it is up to "women" to be the ones careful and cautious is because we, women, are the ones usually with the repercutions. Men genetically cannot get pregnant, so therefore in many many ways it falls solely on the women's shoulders to ensure that does not happen. It's amusing to me this double standard... look at how much money has been put into making drugs such as Viagra, to enhance a male's sexual issues, yet almost ZERO dollars are put into that same research for women's sexual issues. It's because of that double standard you even see that happening. As many of us have said, it's not Chelsea's sexual openness that has where we would not want her dating "our sons", it is her true nature inside... what she is showing of herself. The ugliness that is inside her. I think maybe the sexual freedom she expresses at times is confused by some with what others abhor in her, which is her cruelness towards others.

I would not my son EVER to date someone who could make fun of another person's parent's suicide and laugh about it and make such ugly nasty comments as "they probably caused it" or "maybe she will off herself the way her dad did." That is just truely heinous behavior. Then we add her wanted to defame Nat's Bible by pressuring James to masturbate in it. Those are the behaviors that tell me I would not want someone of that character dating my son.

Also, as Stop said above... "your view that what ever one wants to do is allowable and has not consequences." Well, we are taught that most every action has like reaction. Nat's having unprotected sex caused her to get pregnant and she choose abortion, which Chelsea is now bashing her about. Apparently, it is Chelsea's moral compass to say that it is "ok" somehow to "kill one baby but not two." I mean, talk about shades of gray there. I do understand where you are coming from however, I don't think I would use Chelsea as a poster child for that thinking as she herself cannot make up her own mind about what is and is not ok; seems she has a set of rules for herself and then another for others that she judges them by.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, March 24, 2008 - 10:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Vic...I don't think Natalie really cares too much that Chelsia is going to sequester. She has said several times that she can't wait until Wednesday for Chelsia to be gone.

Victoryrm
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09-20-2007

Monday, March 24, 2008 - 10:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Victoryrm a private message Print Post    
Starving, I think you are welcome to your opinion just as everyone else has expressed theirs. As I said, it's a win win situation for Chelsia this week. She's either going to end uo still in the house to torment Natalie or with Matty in sequester which will torment Natalie even more. Just knowing Chelsia would have no qualms about sex with Matt would drive Natalie made regardless of what if anything happens.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Monday, March 24, 2008 - 10:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
I honestly don't think Nat will be that tormented by Chelsea being in sequester with Matty. I think she will just be extremely glad to be rid of her presence in the house at this point. I think this week of absence of Matty has done her a world of good (Nat) and at this point she will jump up and down when Chelsea walks out the door to end the nightly ranting, raving, and bashing sessions.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, March 24, 2008 - 10:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Has it only been a week?? Gosh...it feels so much longer.

Victoryrm
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09-20-2007

Monday, March 24, 2008 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Victoryrm a private message Print Post    
If I know Chelsia, she will be sure to let Natalie know what she intends to do with Matt right before the show starts. Chelsia would never let that oportunity pass by. Natalie is still obsessed with her Matty from the things I've read at Jokers. She will be a mess.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, March 24, 2008 - 10:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
But, Vic...Chelsia has already said that to Natalie many times.
I think she'll be fine when Chelsia leaves.

Oh, and Natalie also said that if Matt did anything in sequester with Chelsia he would go from a 10 to a 2 in her books. lol

Victoryrm
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09-20-2007

Monday, March 24, 2008 - 10:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Victoryrm a private message Print Post    
Natalie has more mental issues than any woman I've ever seen in 9 seasons. The sequester deal hasn't even hit her brain yet because it will not be a reality until eviction night. She will not last much longer. Everyone will target her.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Monday, March 24, 2008 - 11:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want Natalie with my son either. The difference between the two women is vast, but the final product is much the same. They both use their bodies for attention. They both have a blind eye to their own morality. One can be cruel while the other is oblivious to reality. They both carry more baggage than a sold out airliner. The reason I like Chel more than Natalie falls smack down on religion and using it as a battering ram against others while you do vertually the same and think that you are the only one who will be redeemed for your actions. Neither has learned that there is a time and place for everything and that you are judged, like it or not, by what you show others. If you haven't learned this behavior by 21 I'm afraid you may never learn it.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 12:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Chels looks great tonight. She is doing a great job of chewing on her lips, ala Sharon.

She is well madeup and dressed nicely, in contrast to the scruffy mess that is Nat.

I think it is strange that people may be judging Chels as if she is really like this in real life. I see a girl who was forced into a couple with James, a strong personality, who basically forced her into a Sidekick position.

Since day one of feeds she Shoves him off, tells him NO, hollars get 'OFF of me' and ' stop it' but that isnt good enough for people here.

she gave up awhile back and allows James to manhandle her to a point, then shoves him off removing herself from the bed.

Since the Couples split up She knew she was screwed unless sticking with James. When they were doublecrossed, I think she gave up even further.

I think she is glad to go. The hypocrisy of the house and James talking down to her is hard to stomach.

I couldnt believe that he told her that once she was gone he was going to take up with Natalie. Talk about a slap in the face.


IF this were a real season with people who know the game, Chels would be staying Sharon would be gone.

Chels has broken, I dont see how anyone could think she is still a threat.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 12:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
The only thing I agree with you on Sunshyne is that Chels has broke, we all have witnessed that mess the past few nights. However, if a simple eviction will break you like that in a game, it worries me in other areas. As for the James mandhandling and forcing her into those situations, I disagree. I believe Chelsea was a full on partner in most EVERYTHING that went on between the two of them. It was Chelsea's idea for James to masturbate on a Bible, Chelsea's idea to leave her used tampons lying around and those two are just a few to name.

While I also do not like people being hypocritical in reference to religion, my Bible teaches us that all of us are sinners even if we are Christians, BUT the real sin is in knowing what you are doing is wrong and doing it anyway. I do not like those that want to wave the Bible in front of them when it is convienent, in Nat's case IMO but I also don't like Chelsea setting up a set of standards she has to live by yet snarks on the others for theirs. I mean, her own very arguement about abortion was "women have fought for YEARS to have that right." Then bashing someone for actually availing themself of that hard fought prize. But, wait... according to Chelsea, it's only ok (her words) "to kill babies ONE time." I mean, c'mon... I did not know this was a once in a lifetime plea deal. My point being is, she is just all over the place. I don't want to disapoint or hurt my dad by having sex on TV, then not only does she have sex, she has 3-way sex. She wants to call others vain and her new fav term "white trash," <100> To be honest, there is not one single person I am actually rooting for this year. <100>

I mean, she herself told others many many times "it's just a game folks." She made fun of Matty getting upset for going on the block and now that it is her turn she is having temper tantrums. This "I am going out with a bang" mess is just childish... show some dignity, whatever you have left at this point and take it for what it is, this is the game and you got played.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 1:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Chelsia's family interviewed on local TV:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiUgmF7wUZc

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 5:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Bic, I agree with you about Chelsia. I've heard her talk about how women have fought for that right more than once, yet she judges Nat for using that right...she seems to contradicts herself.

Abortion is not for me...it's not something I could personally do. At the same time, I could not have a baby and not be a part of his/her life, so I am really torn on the issue. The one thing I do agree with Chelisa on is that it should not be used as a form of birth control. Just last night some of the houseguests were sitting around thinking something big happened to Natalie and that is why she clings to the bible. I am guessing they didn't ask themselves whether the abortions caused such??? No one really knows the circumstances behind Nat's decisions, how it affected her after, etc. Maybe Nat is afraid to have children b/c of her mother's mental illness??? She's too young to have her tubes tied. Just a thought.

My point is, Chelsia really doesn't know as much as she thinks she does about Natalie. I thought she was out of control and out of line.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 5:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
I think it is strange that people may be judging Chels as if she is really like this in real life.

You're absolutely right. No one knows how ANY of these houseguests are in real life.

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 5:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    
Nobody knows her reasons Klaw. She is a mixed bag for sure.

All I can say, if it were me in her position, there is no way I would boast about fake wee tests, boob enlargements etc knowing what she went through to have them done, especially on a tv programme :-(

Steviegirl
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07-07-2005

Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 6:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Steviegirl a private message Print Post    
Bee - thanks for that. Unfortunately that was probably from the 2nd week, since they talk about her winning. And there were no hard hitting questions, so it's hard to know what they're thinking NOW.

Her mom seems decent, so I can't imagine she's happy with everything that's been going on. And for her brother to have to watch his little sister strip tease, do things with other women, and everything else? Yikes.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 6:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
ITA, Tissy...I would never announce that either, but then again I wouldn't do what a lot of these houseguests are doing on a tv program...lol

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 7:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I like Chel, but "manhandled"..I don't buy it. She freely and with great gusto joined in the hanky panky.

a time a place for everything they lack this vital information that civilizes us. Dogs "do it" in the public streets, not people. Call me old fashioned but I'm thinkin' it's not too cool to have sex in front of grandma, in the church pew, or on national television...you just might have people talking about you.

Nessietessie
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02-03-2007

Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 7:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nessietessie a private message Print Post    
It was written:
I think it is strange that people may be judging Chels as if she is really like this in real life.

You're absolutely right. No one knows how ANY of these houseguests are in real life.

I disagree. Anyone who had any morals would not do these things in public. I believe deep down Chelsia is this way, tv or not. I am not condemning her, It is not up to me to judge. Like Earthmother said, Dogs do it in public, }

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
<76> Chelsea is immature, impulsive, inconsistent and often crude. She has a temper and the pressure cooker environment of the house magnifies that. Her behaviour has been nasty at times, but she does have spunk and a strong personality. I think if she can learn to control her impulses and become a lot less self-centred, she'll do fine in life.

I think genuinely falling for a guy and eventually giving in to natural sexual drives is pretty low on the scale of evil, if indeed it can be seen as evil at all. It is indiscreet, but there's no harm in it.

Chelsea is going off to study in Germany next year and when she returns no one will remember her. She'll be OK, and so will her family.

I actually do think it will bug the crap out of Nat that Chel will be in sequester with Matt. Watch her try to get herself booted out next week so that she can be there to put a stop to it.

Victoryrm
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09-20-2007

Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Victoryrm a private message Print Post    
I agree Km. I think when it hits her brain where Chelsia is going and what she might do with Matty, it will totally unhinge her.

Starving_singer
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03-24-2008

Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Starving_singer a private message Print Post    
Victory, I appreciate everyone's opinion.