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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 8:24 am
Can you say...."Kaysar".
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Bbnine
Member
02-16-2008
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 8:24 am
AG will cater the POV game to fit James's strenghs .....This will be like BB handing the POV to James.... Nat saying James was told by DR that they're telling him he'll set a record if he wins tomorrow
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Needmylifeback
Member
08-14-2000
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 8:33 am
Well if the Veto game is what rumor is .. the how far will you go .. and they ask who is willing to shave their head... I hope Natalie shows them all and says she will ... (and Ryan and Adam are too vain to say they will) .. you know James will .. it's only hair.. it grows back - I'd do it in a heartbeat!(If I were in the house) (Loved it last year makes for a cooler summer...LOL!)
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 8:33 am
The DR is part of the game. If they can influence players to do something that will shake the game up then that is fine with me. However, if a contestant wants to do something, they will do it and there is nothing that the DR can do to change his or her mind about it. There have been numerous examples of this over the years. The nominations are entirely Adam's responsibility - good or bad.
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Scooty
Member
07-21-2007
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 8:38 am
Having Ryan or Nat booted this week may be the best move for Adam.
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 8:41 am
The reason I stopped watching American Idol Three years ago was because the in way the producers handle certain issues and treat certain contestants. I think they are only trying to make the show suit the producers needs and that really needs to stop. How on earth can they expect to have an audience of millions when they are always tripping up the game in some way or another. I do not agree with the entire nomination thing because Adam did not have the chance to speak to any one after the whole crying scene. I did not like when we voted for nothing...This show is driving me bonkers...    
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Aerojunki
Member
06-30-2004
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 8:45 am
I think a lot of the things the DR says to them is to get different responses from them to play for the shows..makes them look like they may be going to keep or get rid of someone their not..to confuse us. LOL The game is not rigged..if so, Janelle & Kaysar would have a million big ones right now.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 8:49 am
It doesn't matter how much the DR tries to feed the hamster's information or sway their game play. Nobody has come out and said, "the DR said if I didn't nominate/vote for/treat like poo, a certain other player, I'd be eliminated." These players are paranoid, and I'm sure DR discussions play into that paranoia. But they vote for who they want to in the end. In as far as a certain player (this year it's apparently James) is being touted as the person who is going to win because that's what the PTB want... I feel that is totally unproveable. This sort of thinking discounts the fact that the other players have won POVs and HOH's. This topic comes up every single year. If it were true, Janelle would have won in her season. Nobody ever was or ever will be as popular with the public as she was. The PTB certainly would have kept her in the house and crowned her the winner if this rumor of favorites was true. O.k., now I'm going to go have some toast and peanut butter because I'm hungry.
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Aerojunki
Member
06-30-2004
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 8:51 am
Now I have to go have some toast and peanut butter too..LOL
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 8:59 am
I still think that Adam was kept away from the others purposely. He was in the DR and they did not get a chance to speak to him before nominations. So the last impression that Adam would remember was James crying earlier in the HOH with him...O*K*A*Y
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Jamesdiego
Member
03-25-2008
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:07 am
yes HUKON best said.... and i wonder whaat makes any think it really matters.... The name as i said b4... is Big Brother... which in itself says it all... if they do or not is not something that matters... Big Brother means constant control and view of your private life... no privacy... no self expression...no thinking on your own... i know the show says it has nothing to do with the Geo Orwell book.... but come on they named it BB and we all know what Winston Smith – The main protagonist of Orwell’s 1984 lived like and when he tries to rebel, but is crushed in body and soul. Big Brother – the symbol of Party dominance. Big Brother’s precence is everywhere on posters, on cigarette covers, on coins and on telescreens. controls all thought.... ok time for some toast...and yes PB i remember a quote from Goerge Orwell...“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”
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Jamesdiego
Member
03-25-2008
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:08 am
steeltoe.. with respect .... SO WHAT... its their show...
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:09 am
I think the whole argument is bs. Every week, the Diary Room calls the Hoh in, the other guests are put on outdoor lockdown and the Hoh does the look at the pictures thing, goes to the hoh room and puts the keys in. What were they supposed to do, give him a chance to talk to nat and ryan AGAIN? Say, "Oh, okay, Adam, we know you're confused. We will give Natalie time to change your mind again."? It's his fault that he didn't kick James out before he went to DR to talk to them. It happens every week, but usually not whined about.
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Paisley
Member
07-17-2005
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:17 am
Ladytex that is exactly what I was thinking. Between your post and Hukdonreality you have both read my mind and I can only add that I totally agree.
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Cheekychops
Member
08-12-2005
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:21 am
Needmylifeback, I'm sure you are right about the POV being something like shave your head. If it is then its obviously being swayed in James direction. I highly doubt Sheila or Sharon would do that. I'm not too sure Nat would either. Ryan might possibly do it. James - in a heartbeat. Ladytex, I'm thinking that there is a big outcry about it this year because BB is making it so obvious - as are the hg's. I'm sure the cast goes in with the understanding that its not a game show and the purpose of the show is for entertainment and ratings and will be produced that way. Allison alluded to how BB is produced in a interview that you can find in her fan folder on here.
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:27 am
they named it BB maybe so, but this isn't the BB that the original creators intended - BB1 closely resembles the original concept whether that was a snoozefest or not is irrelevant - AG's BB is NOT how it was intended. I think out of respect for the original creators, AG should change the name of the show. LOL I watched BB Australia, and they were punished for even THINKING about talking about who they were going to nominate, because that would give some an unfair advantage (ok, "thinking" is a bit exaggerated, but they DID get punished for the slightest mention of who to nom) I guess what I'm trying to say is AG's BB is not the TRUE BB. I'm sure endemol barely recognizes it.
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Cheekychops
Member
08-12-2005
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:29 am
The British BB Hg's are not allowed to talk about noms either.
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Jamesdiego
Member
03-25-2008
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:40 am
I like that idea .... ( the Brits and Ausies) was AG the original EP?
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:42 am
The American show's concept in its current form is totally different than every other country's Big Brother. However, it is still Big Brother and Big Brother is there to manipulate the houseguests – if (and it is a big if) the houseguests allow themselves to be manipulated.
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Cocobean
Member
07-23-2006
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:44 am
This thread is making me hungry for toast and peanut butter. Stop manipulating me and making me eat! lol
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:53 am
Why should Natalie and Ryan feel an entitlement to bust into James and Adams private conversation and what gives them the right to blame BB for helping James. Would people be complaining if BB called Adam to the diary room just as James was going in to plead his case, I don't think so.
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:53 am
"Big Brother" is about giving up a portion of their lives and be under constant surveillance, it is overly-inquisitive, and the producers are a main controlling factor into any decision the houseguests might make. Now knowing this, the first Big Brother was nothing like it is today. I just feel that they are going deeper and deeper into the wrong path. By the way, YES, it is their show but it is we the viewers that make up the rating pool. I just feel that certain things are done for certain people, and all I was saying was that Adam should not have been isolated from the others before the nominations. I do realize that while in the DR they are suppose to offer the houseguest a little guidance and support, and they need to. But why keep someone from taking to members of his or her alliance in a critical time? Nat was never saved from Josh, Chelsia, or James, and neither was Sheilia. So what gives?
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 10:02 am
Here's my I know that BB has control of the HG and can manipulate them. This is supposed to be for OUR entertainment so they can make money. I get that. But I feel like I've been manipulated too! I don't get to see what the flames are hiding! They're PLAYING ME! That's what I take exception to. After watching the live feed and how the whole Adam - James HOH conversation went down, with Ryan leaving the HOH and we have flames, then Nat called to DR, Adam brought directly to DR for noms... All of that adds up to BB taking control at that moment knowing Adam would not nominate James. They manipulated the situation. Good Job! Knowing this, I can enjoy BB even more and feel like I know what the producers are up to! I am taking some satisfaction in what happened yesterday, and feel vindicated that I'm not just a conspiracy theorist. Wonder what BB will come up with next?

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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 10:04 am
Whoops. I don't really want to post what I just posted. 
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Jamesdiego
Member
03-25-2008
| Friday, April 04, 2008 - 10:04 am
hmmmm we see the feeds... other "reality shows all have the same issue... there are ppl making things happen.... every show... i know i produce them... when we did the first 13 pilots for AI - we stacked the deck for what we thought would make a better show... the resson we know is that we see the feeds ... what if they had feeds for other shows...
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