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Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 8:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Well, I don't happen to think her cylinders are fine. She has the deer in the headlights look a lot of the time. But I sort of like that look. She makes me laugh, and that's good enough for me!

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 8:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
I am a Christian, and very proud of my faith. I try very hard to live my life for Christ. Am I perfect? Far from it. Have I made mistakes? MANY! However, NEVER have I called other people the evil ones just because they were on opposite sides as me. (I'm competitive and have participated in many gaming events.) And NEVER have I quoted Bible verses out of my mouth and the next minute had something else in my mouth. (Not to mention with someone I don't even know) That's where I have a problem. Yes, God is forgiving....but once he forgives you that doesn't mean you can continue to do the same thing over and over and over and say I'm saved...I'm ok. I just have a real problem with someone claiming to be such a devout Christian and their actions show otherwise. People who are on the fence about faith are quickly turned away when they see people like that. As I've said before....when Christians preach one minute and then call people names, and do things like BJ's to strangers the next...I've heard many times from many people if that is what a Christian is I want no part of it. That is what is sad. If you want to bring God into someone's life you need to act Christian like because your actions speak much louder than your words.

Glitterae
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08-02-2005

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 9:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glitterae a private message Print Post    
I sometimes wonder....does everyone know that if you believe in GOD you ARE a Christian????

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 9:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
James, Josh, and Chelsia have all said and done some pretty hateful things to Natalie out of spite/anger, and IMO, for no valid reason. I am pretty certain that James and Josh have both compared their behavior in the house to Evel Dick. Even Chelsia acknowledged that her behavior was crazy. They admit it, so I don't see the problem with Natalie agreeing.

Do I think Natalie is innocent? Heck no, but I can see where she came to her conclusion that they've done evil things. JMO.

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
Yes, Glitterae, I know that. But not everyone believes in God. There are a lot of faiths that have their own God. And some people are atheist and don't believe in God, period. And then there are people that are questioning their faith...those are the ones I was talking about. There is no better way to push those people away further and further than to preach to them and try to bring them closer to God, and then go and do things that are so far removed from a Christian. Prime example: I had a friend who's entire family were born again Christians. Always preaching and condeming people who drank, or cursed, or they were gossiping constantly; a lot of them were themselves reformed alcoholics, well come to find out her uncle had molested his granddaughters and had been doing so for quite some time, as well as molested his own daughter. Well, needless to say, my friend ran as far from religion as she could. Her own words: if that is a Christian, I want no part of it. Moral of the story: if you are going to preach then practice what you preach. When you profess to be such a strong Christian people watch what you do and say....if your actions are not what you preach you just push people further from God.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 9:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
LMAO!!! Hukd said:

quote:

Well, I don't happen to think her cylinders are fine.


And I'm not too embarrassed to admit that my mind went directly to the gutter and refuses to come out!

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 9:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Napa, I completely hear you and know where you are coming from. Do you think Natalie would disagree that her thing with Matt was anything but indicative of her faith or just oblivious to the fact that it's not appropriate behavior? I am just guessing here, but it seems to me Natalie knows it wasn't appropriate, otherwise she would have owned up to it, at the very least to her friends. She's an open book about everything else. JMO.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 9:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
She knows. No way is she gonna own up to it.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 9:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
IMHO, Natalie doesn't seem to know enough about the bible/religion to preach it, much less practice it. I have, however, seen her reading the bible and trying to apply certain scripts to her life. If she is new to religion, believing is a good step. As she grows into her faith, perhaps she'll be able to walk the talk.

Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
I sometimes wonder....does everyone know that if you believe in GOD you ARE a Christian????


Umm..Muslims believe in a god, and other religions have gods.

I believe you meant to say if you believe that Jesus is god, you are a Christian.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
if you are going to preach then practice what you preach.

She kind of does. She believes in trusting God...and that's what she preaches.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Isn't it that Christians believe that Christ is the son of god? Those of Jewish faith don't believe in Christ as being his son, but they do believe in god.

Glitterae
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08-02-2005

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glitterae a private message Print Post    
Napa...I TOTALLY agree with EVERYTHING you said.
I was NOT responding to your previous post...as it wasn't there when I posted. I was more refering to people in the house...such as Sheila...Natalie and others that say..."Well I am a Christian"...I think it is WRONG to use the "Christian Card" in that manner or in any manner...our relationships with God are our own business and how we worship him or ask for his forgiveness is between each individual person and God....and is NO one elses business!...Now I have to go and mute Sheila...lol

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Christians have to accept that Christ is the son of God and that he died to save you. At least that's what we were taught in Sunday School.

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
Yes, but she also preaches about good and evil, judge and ye shall be judged, but only if other people are the ones judging, I guess that doesn't apply to her. That is what I was talking about as far as her faith. Whether she is a new Christian or a long timer; she should have the basic knowledge of right from wrong. I have known since my teen years and from attending church services what is expected of me and that because I am a Christian I am watched and listened to (as far as my actions) by others to see if I truely act like a Christian or a hypocrit. BB is a game, I understand that and appreciate that, people have to lie, strategize, backstab, etc. etc. etc. to make it in the game. But do it in the name of the game, not in the name of God. Now, I'm going to step down from my pulpit and see what the HG's are doing. LOL

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
judge and ye shall be judged

Exactly.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
Nat retreats to painting when she is upset.

Has she ever had a face to face rant?

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    


Nat saying she grew up Christian and used to join her grandmother at church every Sunday. She says her grandmother was a big influence on her with God and Jesus.


Guess she`s not that new to religion

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 2:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Tissy, I heard her say that as well. Sharon asked her what denomination and Natalie responded "Christian." Sharon had to give her examples such as "Methodist" for her to understand the question. She still does not appear to be well versed. JMO.

Skylar47
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08-24-2004

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 2:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skylar47 a private message Print Post    
Natalie doesn't judge what people do...She only trusts god to get her through and prays to god for help....Lots of people do that!

The others in the house have judged Natalie hard on her past and now..She NEVER judged James for doing Gay porn or judged Joshua for being gay..Or Chelsia for having Sex with James...The only time Nat preaches about God is when they are judging her so she throws the *Don't judge people unless you want to be judged...*

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Hasn't she labeled some of the HGs as evil? If so, then yeah, she's judged them.

As far as judging James and his porn, how can she? She doesn't know about that, does she? And does she know about James and Chelsia doing whatever?

Sorry, but she's been doing plenty of judging in that house.

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
First off, believing in God does not automatically make you a Christian. Being a Christian means that you believe in Jesus as your Savior and then it can deviate in a million directions from there.

I believe in God and I am an agnostic.

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
I think that Natalie is going to continue to judge the others and she really does judge them a lot because she thinks that America thinks she is motivational. I like her, as a player, and I think she is playing and analyzing a lot more than the others, but America fed the bears on that question.

ETA: My post is confusing. What I'm saying is that she was judging them before and now that she thinks that we think she is motivational, I think she will continue and increase the judgment.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
How should Natalie view James, Josh, and Chelsia's actions toward her in the house? What would have been her best response?

Victoryrm
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09-20-2007

Monday, March 31, 2008 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Victoryrm a private message Print Post    
Her best response would have been to take the high road. Instead she labeled the other team evil doers annd her team Christ. That pretty much sums it up.