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Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Friday, April 11, 2008 - 11:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Fredi, the winner of the endurance comp is not necessarily the one to leave. Winning that only guarantees that you get to play in the final part of the competition against whoever wins part two. Zach won endurance last year, and he's the one who had to leave.

Grendelsmom
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07-31-2005

Friday, April 11, 2008 - 11:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grendelsmom a private message Print Post    
Even if Nat did win the endurance part of the final HOH, one of the guys would still face her in the final part of that comp. If he beat her, he could take the other guy to F2.

Sminger
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08-03-2007

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 6:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sminger a private message Print Post    
This is a game and NAT made a terrible decision to trust alliance and let Sheila have HOH. I do not like Nat but believe that she would have won the competition. I knew there was trouble when 3 from the same alliance couldn't decide what to do during the comp! No one trust anyone anymore. Nat should go home because she screwed up!!

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 8:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Sminger, I agree that Natalie made a bad decision to let Sheila have HOH, but in all fairness, she didn't know her own alliance had already turned on her. Sharon dropping within the first 10 minutes when she had no one left in her alliance should have been a huge clue for Natalie, but hindsight and all. I am sure, if she doesn't already, she will regret this decision by Sunday night (when the boys lay it out for her). I don't believe Natalie deserves to go home any more than Ryan or Sharon. They both threw it too. JMO.

The good news for Natalie is that the boys are not set on evicting her and are starting to be suspicious of Sheila's motives. They don't like that Sheila is trying to set it up to make them out to be the liars and will not allow Natalie to be evicted without knowing why. There is a glimmer of hope for Natalie and I hope she gets a chance to redeem herself.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Natalie only dropped from the disco ball because she felt sick.

She puked when she got down.

She bragged that she could have stayed in the box for 7 hours.

None of these things makes anyone want her in the final three.

Shelia was given her win.

Who knows what she can do?

Sharon has thrown every comp she has been in.

Who knows what she can do?

Adam and Ryan have to weigh their options on this one.

Which one of those girls could they possibly beat in an endurance?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 9:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think that Adam and Ryan can't possibly beat Natalie in endurance and they may not be able to beat Sheila or Sharon.

So they should probably be looking beyond that.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Jimmer...but they could beat her in Jury votes.
THAT'S what they should be looking at.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
endurance is just 1 part of the final competition

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 9:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That is exactly what I was referring to.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Oh. LOL

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Jury votes

Adam can beat Sharon.

Adam can beat Shelia.

Adam can beat Nat.

Adam can beat Ryan.

Can Ryan beat anyone with the Jen factor?

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 9:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
I agree, Jimmer. If I were Adam and Ryan, these are the questions I would be asking: What is more important winning an endurance competition or winning the entire game? If Sharon wins the final HOH, who would she take with her? Can they beat Sharon in the F2? How does it benefit them to keep Sharon over Natalie?

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Caprica, if Ryan has a chance at all, I am thinking against Natalie since the jury seems to dislike her so much.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
I think James will vote for Natalie because he respects winning comps game play.

Sheila can't beat Nat ,Sharon or Adam. If it is a tie she is really screwed neither will vote for her.

Ryan is Shelia's one hope of winning she needs him to take her not Nat to the end.

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
The endurance Remember the one Janelle and Boogie did that was based on upper body strength which clearly favoured Boogie to win (which he did grrr)

These guys need to think every possibility through. I am hoping between the two of them they will come to an enlightened decision.

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
Part of my post is missing lol! I meant the endurance comp is not a lock for a female to win.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
I think the guys are smart here- wait until AFTER POV is used to figure out what's going on. They have 3 days, and at worst the plan goes ahead. The 2nd option is to make it a tie and let Sheila do the dirty work (which I think is the best option now- I think they're realizing they're being played here). The 3rd option is to vote Sharon out and get Sheila out next week.

I don't know if Sheila can beat Ryan. Would Jo/Ja/Ch/Sh vote for her only because she got Nat out (and that was mainly through Sharon, not her)...She might play the "for my son" card, but that's her only play.

Makays
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07-12-2001

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Makays a private message Print Post    
I believe Nat is gone this week. Both Ryan and Adam know that she is a gamer. They both will get rid of their biggest competition-Natalie.

Why let her decide who to take in the end when they can decide themselves?

Game over Nat

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
I am on the opposite end of the spectrum, Makays. Sharon has not promised to take Ryan and Adam to the F3 whereas Natalie and Sheila have.

Why take a chance on letting Sharon being the one to decide who to take to the end and more important winning it all?

Makays
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07-12-2001

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Makays a private message Print Post    
Klaw- What has Sharon won as opposed to what Nat has won? That is why I said they will get out their biggest threat this week. They have said it a few times when I am watching BBAD. They both said it the other night before the POV. Nat first then Sharon with Sheila being the last one they boot.
I think Sharon & Ryan have a deal. They are always whispering to each other. They have been since Josh left. Personally, I really think Ryan is stringing her along just in case she should win HOH.
I believe it will be all over for Nat come Wed.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Sportsfan... the in AllStars the Final endurance lasted about 5 minutes... Boogie stepped off and Janie removed her hand (instructions were not yet clarified by Julie) thus Erika won... the 2nd part of the comp, Fly by Night, was a physical comp, but not endurance... that did favor the HG with upper body strength...

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Makays, Sharon has thrown comps, including the last HOH, and the boys know that. Plus they believe she is stronger at mental comps. Ryan does have a F2 deal with Sharon, but after last night, I am not sure it's solid anymore (he was the first to suggest keeping Nat). Adam is the one that should be most concerned about keeping Sharon. If she wins HOH next week, he could be toast.

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
Your right Bon, That's what I was thinking of..the Fly by Night comp. thanks!

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 12:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
Also, Ryan and Adam know If Sharon makes it to the final 2, she has three votes already most likely (Josh/James/Chels). This might be the last chance they have to get rid of Sharon, because if she wins HOH next week, she's safe, and she's also eligible to win HOH in F3. The "I hurt my back" excuse in HOH is starting to smell funny to them, as it should.

The guys have to think long and hard about this. If they're up against Sharon, the odds are likely they'll lose. If they're up against Nat, the odds are likely they'll win, since the J/J/C alliance doesn't like her. If they're up against Sheila, there's the chance Sheila could talk her way into a win during jury questioning. If they're against each other, it's a tossup, but Adam has the advantage because of Jen's antics; it could cost Ryan.

just let the POV play out tomorrow, then work from there.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 1:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Adam vs. Sharon 5-2 maybe 6-1
Adam vs. Shelia 7-0
Adam vs. Nat 7-0
Adam vs. Ryan 6-1 more likely 7-0

Ryan vs. Sharon 3-4
Ryan vs. Shelia 6-1
Ryan vs. Nat 4-3 or 3-4

Sheila vs. Sharon 1-6 maybe 2-6
Shelia vs. Nat 4-3 or 3-4

Sharon vs. Nat 4-3 or 3-4

Shelia should just put Ryan up and keep both girls except Nat will turn on her. Nat has never been truely onboard with the Girl Alliance.

Littlelibra16
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08-12-2006

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 1:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Littlelibra16 a private message Print Post    
I disagree with Adam v. Sharon. It depends on how things go down of course but Sharon I think will have Josh and Chelsia for sure. She will have Nat IMO if Adam votes her out this week. Adam will have Shiela, Ryan and Matt. That leaves us with James as a wildcard. There is no benefit to anyone to keeping Sharon this week.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 1:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
James will vote for Adam over Sharon. Based solely on game play.

Steeltoe
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05-19-2007

Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 5:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Steeltoe a private message Print Post    
I can only hope that the VETO meeting is held early today, so that the house meeting would soon follow. I want to see Sheila and Sharon sweat for all the lies they have spread. Moreover, I want to see Natalie's face because although I think she will be hurt and upset, I honestly think she will come out on top and tell it the way it really happen. Good thing Natalie would tell the guys of all her plans, she did once say that she would say certain things and that they should not believe them because she wanted her guys in the end.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 6:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
At this stage of the game these people need to forget alliances and worry about who they can beat in up coming comps and at the end.

Promises can only get you so far, if you are in the final three with people that can beat you, you are toast.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
It's typical of Ryan that he wants to call out Natalie on her lying... he's doing the same, until the last HOH he was all for TC and at the same time making secret dealings with Sharon. Adam is making deals with both Sheila and Ryan.

I don't mind seeing some action but I hope Natalie can defend herself and telling Ryan he's doing the same and why all of a sudden he wants to get rid of her when their common target was Sharon. When James confronted Ryan (having saved him to boot Matt) and that Ryan was being ungrateful we saw how Ryan became nervous and so I hope Natalie can do the same.

I still think Natalie in F4 would be more entertaining than having Sharon there and BB seems to like that too.