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Bbnine
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02-16-2008

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 6:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnine a private message Print Post    
You let me down Adam!

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
What's his thinking in nominating Sheila and Sharon? I haven't read the lfp yet. Is there a method to his madness?

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 6:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
James came crying to Adam, so he promised to give him a chance and not put him up. James has promised that if he wins POV he won't use it to take off Sharon, so Sharon will go home instead of Sheila.

If James doesn't win POV I don't know if Adam will put him up or not.

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
Thanks Kitt. So I guess Adam felt sorry for James. Adam does seem like a big softie to me...lol.

Was Sheila pissed to be nominated by Adam?

Jadajean
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03-23-2008

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jadajean a private message Print Post    
Adam has completely lost his mind. He just gave James $500,000. What was he thinking.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
AG couldn't have James going home yet. There's a lot of mileage left in that pony.

Jadajean
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03-23-2008

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 6:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jadajean a private message Print Post    
Hopefully the plan is too backdoor James. Risky move IMO.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 6:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
I haven't had time to look over the LFP either...
What was his rationale for nominating Sheila? I'm SURE she's reiterated it over and over and over and over.
Kinda surprised that he wouldn't have put up Natalie instead of Sheila.
I imagine he's telling everyone he's gonna try to BD James?

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
Since there can't be any backdooring this week, maybe he is just hoping one of them does win POV and take Sheila off and then Adam won't have "any choice" but to put James up as a replacement? I don't see him putting Nat or Ryan up.

Bbnine
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02-16-2008

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnine a private message Print Post    
Adam saying- you know what it is its the DR they throw ideas in your head and i go with it.

AG did influance him.

Adam wouldn't have made this deal with James if the DR didn't call Nat and Ryan ... when those 2 left the room .. is when James put out the tears and begged Adam to not put him up .... he pulled a Josh .... but Adam fell for it ...

If James wins POV ..... I know he will take off Sharon ... so Adam will have to put up Nat or Ryan .... he will lose all numbers to James/sharon .... they will control the vote

I don't trust James .... Adam blew it big time imho

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Just because everyone can play POV doesn't mean there "can't" be a back door plan.
As long as anyone but James wins POV, Adam could have the ability to replace a nominee with James.
If someone other than James wins POV, they can use it to take someone down and Adam puts James up.
It's not a "true" back door, but the result would be the same.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 7:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Meet my new sign from Bonza:

bonzasnipbee

I Bonza!

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 7:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
That's all I was saying, not a true backdoor...I realize it could still happen that way.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 7:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
We go round and round about this every season... the original intent of backdooring was not to allow the person a chance to win veto. The six play for veto, one wins (obviously) and takes a nominee off, and the person being backdoored goes up instead.

And...

GO ADAM!!! About time you grew some and ran your own HOH!

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
And I wonder if Adam is hoping someone besides James wins POV so he can tell him that he really has no choice, he has to put him up. Then James gets voted out and it's really not Adam's fault?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 7:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
The risk in not nominating James is that if James wins the POV he can remove another ally from the block without being nominated himself and then they control the vote.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 7:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Exactly, Jimmer...and this is why it was not a good move.
He is now saying that if James doesn't win the POV he's going up and out.
So, either way, it seems, James needs to win...so why not just put him up in the first place, which would have kept Adam's currently very strong alliance intact without upset?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 7:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I agree. If Adam's main objective is getting rid of James and he intends to nominate him anyway if James doesn't win the veto, I find it hard to understand the logic of not nominating James in the first place. It is too big a risk and makes no sense.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 7:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Huge risk...and at this very moment he is admitting that it was a mistake to do it.

Bicbicz911
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08-20-2005

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 7:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bicbicz911 a private message Print Post    
I love that it only took him 2 hours to figure that out. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Critical error. He just lost the support of his crew at final 6. That play should never have come around til final 4.

Mama2oliviamae
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08-16-2006

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mama2oliviamae a private message Print Post    
I posted this in another thread but thought it would be relevant here, too. (I edited the irrelevant parts)

I believe Adam did not nominate James because he's smarter than people think. I hope that Adam is looking ahead to the next couple of weeks & he realizes that pretty soon, TC is going to fall apart (they'll have to when it's nothing but TC int he house). If James DOES stay in the house through this and next week, he's going to need SOME kind of ally outside of TC.

All of that plus, if Adam makes it to F2, he can say that he gave James a fair chance in his first HOH (by not backdooring him) and didn't nominate him the second time. He's hoping for a jury vote from James. And he knows if James is willing to give him a vote then probably Josh and Chelsia will too.

Sorry but I think that it's much deeper than BB/AG "manipulating" the game. I think it's excellent strategy.

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 8:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
I agree Mama, and if he gets to F2 people won't think it was such a dumb move. TC is going to have to start picking off their own and he knows Ryan and Natalie now have a strong alliance - she said so herself on the show so where would that leave him in the pecking order. It is HIS HOH and he DID what he felt was best for him. At this stage of the game you have to play for yourself...not everyone else in the house.

Mistysmoke
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08-10-2001

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 8:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mistysmoke a private message Print Post    
I think it was great that Adam didn't do what Ryan and Nat wanted him to do. It was his HOH and he decided (even if BB prodded him, he made the decision). James had already started crying before Nat left the room, so it isn't like he just started right after Nat left, she was there for part of it. I guess I am in the minority because though I don't like all the things James has done, I am not upset that he is in the house, or that any of them are in the house for that matter. I just don't have any favorites I guess.

Wavewatcher
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09-09-2006

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 10:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wavewatcher a private message Print Post    
Adam strikes me as someone who does a lot of thinking and
observing. He's said that he trusts no one in the house. So I would
be very very surprised to learn that he actually believes James or
that he is falling for James' "tears". It will be interesting to see what Adam's strategy is with this move...

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Friday, April 04, 2008 - 12:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    

All of that plus, if Adam makes it to F2, he can say that he gave James a fair chance in his first HOH (by not backdooring him) and didn't nominate him the second time. He's hoping for a jury vote from James. And he knows if James is willing to give him a vote then probably Josh and Chelsia will too.


I hope that`s his reasoning too :-)