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Bbnut
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06-12-2006

Friday, April 18, 2008 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnut a private message Print Post    
...and, Steeltoe, all the time that real player is constantly messing up and communicating.

Steeltoe
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05-19-2007

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So true, Bbnut.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, April 18, 2008 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
No. When you subscribe you are notified that you may not receive feeds 24/7. Read the fine print.

Steeltoe
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05-19-2007

Friday, April 18, 2008 - 5:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Steeltoe a private message Print Post    
Well it appears that they are using a form of false advertisement because they do tell you that they will bring the full behind the scenes coverage every true fan craves. Twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, watch what goes on behind closed doors. However, making the same promise that certain content may be delayed, edited and/or blacked out at various times at our sole discretion. So how are we getting 24/7 feeds? They should say exactly what they mean in the opening statement, hey maybe they should make it their thesis statement...}

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, April 18, 2008 - 5:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I just watched the HOH comp and no, BB did not interfere and no, there is no "proof." There was simply a delay in getting Julie the correct answer. Notice that she did NOT say what the relationship was (all othert questions she told the HGs the correct answer; this one she said only that it was FACT that there is still a pre-existing relationship in the house). The viewers were the only ones privvy to the info that the answer was the guinea pigs. So sorry, nope. Technical difficulties, yes. Conspiracy, nope.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, April 18, 2008 - 6:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Again, the fine print when you subscribe to the live feeds:

quote:

The live and on-demand content (the "Content") may contain elements offensive to some users and inappropriate for users under 21. Certain Content may be delayed, edited and/or blacked out at various times at our sole discretion. You agree that we shall have no liability whatsoever relating to the Content and you waive any claims you may have, now or in the future, against us relating to the Content. You agree to comply with our Terms of Service.


The fine print is there so you cannot claim false advertising. This is the same statement provided every year when you agree to the feeds. You ARE getting behind the scenes coverage.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, April 18, 2008 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
No there is no proof - either way.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, April 18, 2008 - 7:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Steeltoe, I get what you are saying. Advertising is always, always misleading. Take the Carl's Jr commercial, beautiful young woman on a mechanical bull eating a bacon western burger. It's all bull!

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 4:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gina8642 a private message Print Post    
I don't mind most of what BB production does either. I think the whole "deprive" the HGs of stuff like clocks, washer/dryer, decent sized refridgerator, etc was just silly and pointless. I'm glad BB has come to realize this as well.

I'm not very thrilled that the DR interferes with the game sometimes - it's clear to me that they do. They put questions in HGs heads that HGs didn't realize themselves. The DR encourages likely to be evicted HGs to fight back, they let the cat out of the bag by the direction of their questions, etc. However, I rarely think the DR is favoring one HG over another so much as I think the DR favors DRAMA over DULLNESS.

Once in a long while the DR actually looks out for a particular HG - like Dick or America's player - only because they know the ratings depend on it. (And, it is really still favoring DRAMA or DULLNESS.)

But in the end, that's really all ok with me too. I never lose sight of the fact that this is a TV show - not a social experiement or even a gameshow (let alone a fair gameshow.) It only exists if it can make $$$ for CBS. To make $$$, they need to maximize their ratings. I'm ok with that.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 5:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Good catch Costa....

I didn't notice that Julie gave explanations to all the True/False questions, except the GP one.

Julie's delay in answering now makes more sense to me. I'd be willing to bet Julie was about to explain the True answer when she was cautioned not to do so by production.

However, I agree there is no proof either way. But in the absence of proof, I go for the probabilities...

1. It is possible that BB planned to ensure Ryan won HOH with a convoluted scheme involving difference senarios that might occur based on who answered what questions correctly.

2. It is also possible that the delay was the result of either technical difficulties or the simple fact that Julie got distracted when someone reminded or advised her to not give an explanation to the final question.

In my mind, the second reason is more probable.

Redhawk
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05-23-2007

Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 6:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Redhawk a private message Print Post    
I find it very hard to believe that in the pre-production meetings the producers don't go over every question and answer in detail with Julie.

Executive producers don't permit shooting from the hip, if you will, especially during a live show.

Sorry, but I don't buy the technical difficulties possibility either. I think the producers were reminding Julie, in her earpiece, not to elaborate on the answer. This was to nip in the bud the likelihood there would be a scene because of the trickery in the question.

Lastly, I'm bored with the HGs incessant conversations at trying to figure out who is part of the mystery relationship.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 6:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Obviously she was not meant to tell them because the answer was posted on the the tv screen for the tv audience.

I think they want to tell them the answer on the Live Show.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 4:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
While they may discuss every detail in pre-production, there is no way the "host" is going to run without prompting. She won't remember everything. It has nothing to do with shooting from the hip and everything to do with reading a script. It's possible Julie's teleprompter was delayed or the voice in her earbud was yammering something else and she wasn't paying attention. Watching that part, though, it just seemed very much like a technical difficulty.

I thought the reason they didn't disclose the answer was cuz it'd be a question during the final HOH comp. As in "what IS the pre-existing relationship that was FACT"?

Tk27
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07-04-2004

Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 7:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tk27 a private message Print Post    
I have a question how does BB even know that the GP's are in a relationship LOL!

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

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TK its what the GP do after dark!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 8:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Night vision cams!

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
I think they didn't tell the relationship because those going to the Jury house will KNOW it isn't them....therefore it must be the two left. It could shake up the ending...or at least make it more interesting.

Cathie
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08-16-2000

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Unless the DVD they send to the jury house has the closed captioning we saw showing it was the guinea pigs. I think the jury would enjoy knowing and baiting the final two, lol.

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

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LOL....True Cathie...but from what I understand, they get an edited version...so no tellin what they will find out.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

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Julie hemmms and hawsss... and pauses... etc every time she's on TV. Production for the live shows is never smooth. It's par for the course.

I think the g pig question was silly - but I think the answer was known before hand. I do think BB should have revealed the answer - because it has the potential to cost someone the game. But, BB has never run a fair game - that's also par for the course.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

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If the premis for this show is 1984 then they are running the show based on being toyed with by Big Brother. Planting seeds of doubt so that what you think you know may not be real. Watching Adam play I believe he is the only one who has even read that book.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

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I haven't read that book in years, but I do remember the "thought police"...lol

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 2:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
The goodbye messages to the jury members are edited. This could really change an evicted hg's feelings about those left in the house and affect the jury vote.

(not that the hgs left can't do that themselves by acting/choosing their words carefully...but that is part of the game)

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    

The goodbye messages to the jury members are edited. This could really change an evicted hg's feelings about those left in the house and affect the jury vote.


Nats goodbyes for example. DR made it look like Adam voted to evict her and Ryan save her.