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Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
He didn't say they told him it was for Breast Cancer, he only said he thought some of them gave to him because of it.

I'm very sorry for all you and your family have been through, Seattle. And others like you.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
OK, I've been thinking about it. If people are giving to him specifically because they think he is doing it for breast cancer awareness, and that means a lot to them, then that's bad. We don't know how often that happens but maybe it happens more than I think.

I get the impression from that clip that he's talking about people who give him a few dollars here and there because it looks like he's getting out there and doing something for a good cause - which in his head (and to be honest I don't think it's much more than in his head) he is. They associate the cause with breast cancer because of the pink, but that isn't his doing, that's his sponsor's.

Jushvnfn
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07-29-2006

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jushvnfn a private message Print Post    
He didn't say they told him it was for Breast Cancer
IMO... if you think you are getting something under false pretense, it's his obligation to set them straight. Jus sayin

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I think we can rag on James for many things, but to say that he is somehow uncaring towards others or would try to take out of the Breast Cancer coffers is just misplaced... Remember who jumped and ran to Amanda's aid? Remember who had just hung on a disco ball for hours and then was the only one to go to the Aid of Natalie??? He does care for others and I believe that if he had the opportunity to help out a Breast Cancer foundation, he would jump at the chance...

Cokegirl
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03-08-2004

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cokegirl a private message Print Post    
Jush, I was just going to say that.

Cokegirl
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03-08-2004

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cokegirl a private message Print Post    
Bon if people are giving James money or things because they think he is doing it for BCA and he doesn't give it to BCF then to me James is taking from BCF coffers. JMO

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
OK, I've been thinking about it. If people are giving to him specifically because they think he is doing it for breast cancer awareness, and that means a lot to them, then that's bad.

IMHO, that's what James was saying in the youtube and I agree. It's bad...not right at all. Some times I think these houseguests forget about the cameras/live feeders. I feel bad for anyone who gave him money or stuff thinking he is representing such a worthy cause as Breast Cancer Awareness.

((((Seattle))))

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I would agree with you, but really it was just a 1/2 sentence that James said which has spurned on this whole discussion. I have seen James as being very caring, so I guess I would give him the benefit of the doubt and hope to get a little more clarification on exactly what was going on before I were to condemn him...

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I would have great and long lasting respect for James if he had said that when people associate his Pink with Breast Cancer and they give him something because of it, he took it and gave it to a foundation or a cause when he got a chance.

The impression I get from him, his words, his expressions, his general demeanor is that he takes what is offered to him and thinks it's pretty funny that folks give him stuff thinking it's for a worthy cause when in fact, according to him, himself, it is not.

Sorry, but for me, this has destroyed any and all feelings of credibility or respect I had for James. And I did have some.

Bon...his jumping to Amanda's aid, I believe, was simply a rote response based on his Pink Bus stunts and knowledge of immediate first aid. And he was not the "only" one to aid Natalie.
As for his "care for others", I haven't seen it outside of Chelsia. And even that, I feel, was simply to benefit him. He now brags about having sex with her on National TV and didn't even give her a sympathy vote.
I'm over James on every level at this point, though I had a degree of admiration for his gamesmanship earlier.

Buddeelove
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08-24-2007

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buddeelove a private message Print Post    
Bon I agree and we forget he is 21

Jamesdiego
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03-25-2008

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jamesdiego a private message Print Post    
yikes... i think you are assuming he took. I cant believe someone goes up to him and says, Hey YOU have a pink Mohawk, You must be doing this for breast cancer... here have my money...
Any one know 1 that most charities are a racket....
(I have worked for many including Breast cancer..) I have raised the money for them... i know that most of the money goes to admin...
a small % goes to the cause... <76>

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Being 21 has absolutely nothing to do with it.

He SAID he took. He takes it and says: thanks, dude.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
With all due respect, Bon, I am not accusing or implying that James is an uncaring person. I just don't think it's right that he accepts things from people under false pretenses. JMO.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
And people don't just walk up to him. He has a flyer that he hands them stating that he is on a mission of peace and prosperity biking around the world.
I might give someone something if they misrepresented themselves in that way, as well. Especially if I asked if the Pink was related to the cause of Breast Cancer. And I can see that being asked.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I agree, Bonbon. <76> James was 21 in November, so he was 19 or 20 I presume when he was cycling round the world. To me that's a kid and kids do things without thinking through the full ramifications of what they're doing. I bet if he realised that what he did could upset someone he would stop, he just doesn't see it yet. Give him time to mature. Most 20 year olds just don't see things from others' point of view very clearly. <76>

Jamesdiego
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03-25-2008

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jamesdiego a private message Print Post    
again .... this is a guy talking to a guy ....
he is BS'ing please dont believe him... do you believe that he tells the truth all the time... i really dont think he takes anything... really...... picture hims riding his bike... and someone saying " are you thirsty? you must be riding for Breast cancer so here have a sandwich and a beer.... i dont believe he takes anything away from the cause.... at least not more than the Head of the Breast Cancer society takes when he gets his 200K bonus....

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Bee, if he's handing out flyers saying what he's biking for, then what's the problem? People know what they're giving to. He hasn't said that anyone has asked him if his cause was breast cancer and he's said yes it was. He's just said he thinks the pink might make them more likely to give money.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Jamesdiego...all I have to go on is his own words. He does not appear to be "BS'ing" to me. Not to mention the other times he has talked about taking things from people, "ripping off the elderly" (his words), stealing from people, destroying property, bumming smokes and using people. I'm sorry...but these are all things James has said, time and time again. This latest thing is just another example of it. And all I have to go on are what James himself says. If he's "BS'ing" what on earth would be the purpose of it? And if he's "BS'ing", why does it come up time and time again?

Jamesdiego
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03-25-2008

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jamesdiego a private message Print Post    
The pink was his sponsors idea based on clothing ,the sponsor said hey what about a pink Mo' and James said F&^&%K yea...

Jamesdiego
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03-25-2008

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jamesdiego a private message Print Post    
i am a guy i see it .... how he talks... its a game... he is showing how tough and ruthless he is...
BTW i am not a JAMES FAN...... i really dont like him... he is a baby...
but guys BS for no reason ALL the time....

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Kitt...he DOES say that. He said:

James: Yeah, and people always think that, like, associate the pink with like Breast Cancer Awareness and stuff like that so they're more willing to give you free shit

Josh: Oh, that...yeah, that's GOOD.

James: I don't say anything. They're like, you're doing a good thing. And I'm like, allright, dude, thanks.

Omission does not excuse it.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Klaw...thanks for the respect, but I think it is a given we all respect each other... :-)

And I wasn't suggesting that any one person was implying that James was uncaring, but as I read the posts as a whole it just seems to be what some feel...and I agree it would not be right to accept under false pretenses.. But I would like more than 1/2 sentence before I decided that is what he did...

And Bee ... jumping to Amanda's aid may have been a rote response... Isn't that a good thing??? As for boasting about sex with Chelsia.. I wouldn't like that, but the two of them have a different line than I. I really don't think it would bother her, so whatever it is between them... And they said early on in the game when necessary, they had to vote each other out...she totally understood it and it was game play...I really don't think that she thinks James feels any less for her simply because he did not give her a sympathy vote...

Jamesdiego
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03-25-2008

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jamesdiego a private message Print Post    
OK Bee.... ITs a game... he is just talking.... is NAT a cheerleader?
Do you really believe that ppl walk up and give him stuff?
I have been a fund raiser for many causes.... Its hard enough to get free shit even when you are legit... much less some freaky looking dude... he is just spouting off BS to make himself big.... <76> you have to be around a bunch of 21 year olds hanging out some time... they do it all the time and most of the words are not true.... <76>

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
From his words I get that people say to him "you're doing a good thing," and in his mind he is and accepts their money. He thinks he's doing it for a good cause.