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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Ryan wasn't dumb to get the "guinea pig" answer right. It was a very smart answer on his part and he answered that way because he was desperate. Even if he thought it was fiction, the only slim chance he had of tying Sharon was to answer fact and hope in some crazy way it would be a fact. He knew that Sharon would answer fiction as fiction was the only logical answer and if he answered fiction, Sharon would win no matter what.

I'm not normally a fan of conspiracy theories but this one was very suspicious. How long can it possibly take Julie to come up with the answer. It sure seemed to me that someone in the background was deciding on the spot who should get that question right.

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
It's one thing for them to mess with the HGs in the diary room--that is BB--but it's something completely different to put in a trick question to deliberately skew the HOH outcome. Shameful.

Cpmfinster
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08-15-2005

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 9:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cpmfinster a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, I was coming to post the exact same thing. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist at all...but there's somthing fishy.

I don't know what BB gains as they have no way of knowing who would get the right number on the tiebreaker. If they did change the answer I think that it would be just to create the tie and add drama to the live show.

Ryan just said on BBAD that he guessed the opposite of what he thought Sharon was going to answer. He called it a "total shot in the dark".

It was his only play and he was smart to recognize that.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 9:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I think they traded Nat's eviction for a HOH win for Ryan. The boys were set to save Nat, suddenly Ryan came out of the DR and was like "let's evict the stripper." No proof, but I wouldn't be surprised. I thought the POV was wide open for BB manipulation as well. There is no way to prove those were the actual times to solve the puzzle. Nothing would surprise me any more with this show.

Flagg
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06-01-2005

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 9:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flagg a private message Print Post    
When did Julie Chen turn into Jeff Probst? Felt like a Tribal Council tonight with her grilling everybody before the vote.

Marmosquirm
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09-10-2003

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 10:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marmosquirm a private message Print Post    
The Guinea Pigs??!!! The freaking Guinea Pigs!! I cannot believe that! Sharon was totally robbed! That was the worst HOH comp EVER! I mean there've been comps before where Julie messed up (the HOH comp that Janie should have won but there was some snafu and either April or Maggie won comes to mind), or there was some other problem and the wrong person won but this takes the cake! The Guinea Pigs had a pre-existing relationship before BB? Good God!!

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 10:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Either I think totally oddballish or I'm just weird but when Julie asked that question, I turned to my hubby and said fact....the guinea pigs. I was half kidding around and got a giggle when Julie said fact and "guinea pigs" flashed on the tv screen.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 11:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I'm with you Wargod, I IMMEDIATELY thought about the guinea pigs.

And they'd have to have that word graphic ready to go on screen the moment they decided it too, so I just don't believe that the game was tampered with tonight.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 11:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Yep, they would have had to have it ready. I really wanted Sharon to win hoh tonight but I still don't think it was anything funny.

The gp's have been used before, last weeks POV comp and remember them in the diary room, they showed the hg's that a few weeks ago on the plasma screen. Oh and there were the clues in their cage early on. They've kinda been part of the game. Other than the pub in season 1 I don't remember any of the bb pets playing a part like this in the game.

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 12:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    

Ha...Ryan saying he meant 510 but changed it to 310 when he had the chance.
Yes, Julie asked Ryan "Is that 310?" Ryan said yes, so I guess thats when Ryan changed it


Just read this on jokers ..... I didnt get to watch the end of the show.

Cokegirl
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03-08-2004

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 12:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cokegirl a private message Print Post    
I don't think that The HOH was messed with. I think Julie asked the question and then looked at the answer and was confused. Like she thought it was the wrong answer and was asking if it was right. JMO

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 4:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
When did Julie Chen turn into Jeff Probst? Felt like a Tribal Council tonight with her grilling everybody before the vote.


I thought the exact same thing!

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 4:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
Maybe the DR told Ryan that if he changed his vote to Natalie that they would help him in the HOH contest.......

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 4:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Ryan didn't change the number when Julie asked if that was a 3, he was trying to write it clearer.

He already had one number crossed out when he held up his board...then Julie asked the question...and Ryan then tried to make his "3" more distinct.

I recognized it as a 3 the first time he held up the board.

The problem I have with the "fix" is how would BB know the contest would end up with Sharon one answer right over Ryan? How could BB ensure Ryan would answer opposite of Sharon on the GP question? What if Ryan HAD answered the same as Sharon?

The contest may have been "geared" towards a certain contestant... but I do not understand how BB could "fix" the win for Ryan. Too many unknown variables...

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 4:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
I actually thought Sharon or Adam would do well in that one. and Yup I thought of the guinea pigs right away also and thought sure Sharon would guess that as she is always taking care of them, heck even during the picture puzzle comp they had HG and GP

Mama2oliviamae
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08-16-2006

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 5:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mama2oliviamae a private message Print Post    
As soon as I witnessed the obvious "rigging" of last night's HOH, I thought of you all & TVCH right away. We all know (by reading the archives of this thread) that I haven't really ever bought into the whole "rigging" of BB but tonight changed my mind.

Julie's stuttering & silence seemed like enough time for the producer to type (The GPs) on the screen. It was just ridiculous & I'm very disappointed!

I was hoping Sharon would win that comp but after Ryan won & I realized that whoever won POV would have the power - I was relieved.

Bubba
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07-29-2005

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bubba a private message Print Post    
The delay in the answer might of been Julie being instructed not to say the GPs, just to say FACT. Because on all the other questions she gave the right answer.

Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cablejockey a private message Print Post    
I was hoping Sharon would have won too--she had it, for awhile. One thing that made me wonder was how did they set up that HOh set with their names painted on it before the 'live vote' was finished? Did they have both girl's names made up and then switch them around to fit who was still there? I thought the HOh stuff was set up a couple of hours before the show.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 7:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
The whole point behind the conspiracy theory is that there was absolutely no reason that Julie needed to delay in answering that question. She must have a list of questions and whether they are fact or fiction. It's a simple as looking at the list and the answers.

It definitely looked to me like she was waiting for instructions.

As far as fixing it goes, of course, they couldn't be sure it would come down to one question at the end, but the point is that it did and it gave them the opportunity to do this if they wanted to do it.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 7:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
I thought it seemed fishy BUT, Julie has stumbled and made errors plenty of times before that.

Goldie
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04-01-2008

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goldie a private message Print Post    
Why would BB or CBS care who won the next HoH unless there's an office betting pool or something?

Bblovergirl
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07-07-2005

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 9:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bblovergirl a private message Print Post    
Well, they would care if they want to make sure a certain person is not the HOH. Even though the POV winner decides who goes home, the HOH is still safe and maybe they didn't want Sharon to be safe. Who knows, it all seems fixed to me. They have edited Sharon and Ryan to look like saints (can even throw James in there) and others to look like "evil doers". Doesn't surprise me that they'd do that for a reason.

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 9:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
The guinea pig question was just a really bad trick question. Based upon that you could say the stove and the sink have a pre-existing relationship going back to BB6. You could say the two interviewers in the DR are in a relationship. How do the HG's know the pigs haven't been switched from time to time and are the original ones. And do GP's have relationships ?
Very bad question to determine such an imp[ortant HOH. They could have used so many others about the evicted HG's. Questions about Alison that would favor Ryan or about Jacob that favored Sharon or some that favored Adam but the GP's, just really a bad joke.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
it still surprises me that people are surprised. BB lost its credibility a long time ago.

Steeltoe
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05-19-2007

Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Steeltoe a private message Print Post    
I thought the entire live show seemed somewhat fishy. Why would Julie ask all the questions she did about the game, she never asked those type of questions before. To me it seemed as though they knew Natalie would give certain answers and those answers would screw her chances of staying. I did not like the way James would come out of the DR and make comments on what what said, and I did not like the show last night. This season has truly hurt my heart to see how they are taking over the game and making it so that the results are more for what they believe should be...I also did not like when we were asked to vote and then our votes counted for nothing more than a tease. Last nights show was such a disappointment that I turned off after Natalie walked out...Now isn't that some crap?