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Slinkydog
Member
11-30-2005
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 11:49 am
I can't decide. I think this is the first year ever that I will be okay with whoever wins. It is kind of fun just watching how it plays out instead of getting stressed about it.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 11:52 am
lol, Mame. Natalie was trying to solidify their F3 deal by offering to throw the HOH. Doesn't the POV holder next week decide who goes to the jury next?
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 11:54 am
I will not assume that James would vote for Sharon if she were to make F2. He has said that he would vote for the person that he thinks played the best game. While in the house, James really had very little to do with Sharon, most of his dealings were with Joshuah. While she may have his vote against Ryan or maybe Sheila, I can see him voting for Adam or Natalie.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 11:55 am
You might be right about that, Klaw. I'm not following it all that closely, but it makes sense.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 12:10 pm
Ladytex, you're probably right. I can see James voting for the best player when it's all said and done. Chelsia and Josh I am not so sure about.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 12:12 pm
Noway in this lifetime would Chelsia vote for Nat! That would be the shocker of the Century! <77>
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 12:15 pm
well I wouldn't vote for someone that consistently shouted out about how my private parts smelled either, no matter where she got it from. And I don't think that's immature or spiteful, just real.
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Carmil
Member
07-17-2005
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 12:27 pm
On a personal level, I want them to keep Nat because I just like her better than I do Sharon. But strategically, I'm not sure which would be the smartest eviction for this week. I think for Adam & Ryan, keeping Nat would keep them safe for next week. Nat's target will obviously be Sheila since Natalie already has said she's sticking with "her boys". But does Adam and Ryan want to go up against Nat in the F3 endurance? If Nat wins the final HOH, I do believe she would take Ryan to the final 2 with her. Adam is not dumb... he must know that. So for Adam, strategically he may want to keep Sharon in for the F4. But keeping Sharon is a huge risk and she might end up winning the final HOH and will be sitting next to Sheila in the F2. (A final 2 of S & S is probably the worst case scenario I could imagine.. on the same level as Maggie/Ivette; Allison/Jun!) It goes without saying that strategically for Sheila, it's a no brainer.. she has to get Nat out this week, or she's a goner next week if Nat wins HOH or POV. I hope they rethink this whole strategy and get Sharon out while the getting is good. I want to see Adam win this year, I don't care who he is sitting next to in the F2, as long as it's not Sharon.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 12:36 pm
It goes without saying that strategically for Sheila, it's a no brainer.. she has to get Nat out this week, or she's a goner next week if Nat wins HOH or POV. I think Sheila's only hope is to keep Sharon. If Nat stays, any of the 3 will put Sheila up... and then Sheila is voted out...
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 12:40 pm
I think I'd vote out Sharon, because it doesn't give the pinks ammo against them. The "gotta stay true to my alliance" argument from Ryan is why Josh got voted out, even though Ryan SAID he was in an alliance with him. If they keep Sharon, it proves they are more than willing to keep a "pink", and makes Josh question how hard Ryan really worked for him. Similarly, James and Adam were sorta tight, and Adam went with the whole "gotta take care of my alliance" argument, when putting James up. If the "alliance" is so important, then they have no reason to keep Sharon. But the fact that Natalie is an endurance threat is something to keep in mind, for the final HOH series of comps. Natalie will win round 1 (endurance) and Adam will win round two (quiz), and Nat will win round 3 (obstacle/agility/quiz).
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 12:58 pm
I don't think Nat can beat Adam in part three of the final HOH. Ryan could however and he would take Nat to F2 before he took Adam. Shelia in the final three with the boys is best for both of them but Shelia could get taken out by Nat next week if Nat stays. If they keep Sharon she will try to take out one of the boys. One of the boys could remain last man standing with no blood on his hands. Ryan and Adam will vote for each other. Things to ponder.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 1:03 pm
It's simple for the boys- just force a tie and make Sheila do the dirty work.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 1:54 pm
But Wilson, you risk alienating Sheila as well. Especially for Ryan. Sheila will think it is Ryan that voted for Sharon (therefore lying to her), and because she's under the impression that Adam has her back. If it goes to a Ryan/Adam F2, that's not good news for Ryan.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 2:15 pm
If Sharon gets to final two, she can make a very convincing argument that she has played a good game, especially if she wins a crucial comp to get there. The boys know that she threw the HOH comp so that she wouldn't have to put up James, and it was pretty obvious that she threw this endurance. She lasted on the disco ball much longer than Adam did (and longer than Ryan would have had he been participating); Sharon, Sheila and Natalie can all beat Ryan and Adam in endurance, so they shouldn't even worry about that part of the final HOH comp. She has been on the block four or five times and not gone home, and she managed to flip an alliance against each other. I think she would easily get James' vote, Josh and Chelsia are a given, and if Nat gets voted out by her alliance this week, Sharon has a good chance of getting her vote as well. It would definitely be in Ryan's and Adam's best interest to keep Natalie in the house. She is on their side; Sharon and Sheila are not. Even if Ryan thinks he has a final two alliance with Sharon, he should be paying close attention to how tight she and Sheila are, and also realizing that he can win against Natalie, but not against Sharon.
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Angelrsg
Member
08-08-2005
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 2:21 pm
I would vote out Sharon. They know that she has been throwing the competitions, so they don't really know how she would fare in either a mental or endurance comp. The final HOH is 3 parts. Natalie is very good with endurance, but it's not a guarantee that she will win. And even if she does, she would need to win the 3rd part, and if she is up against Adam, it's anybody's game. And they need to remember that Team Pink loathes Nat. James told them that if Nat is at the end, he would not vote for her. So if they are to believe James, that is one vote in their favor.
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 2:51 pm
Both boys want Shelia in the final three. It all comes down to who will be harder to get rid of next week.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 3:33 pm
I'd get rid of Natalie now. They know she won't back off in a comp and of course they know that part one of the final hoh is physical/endurance. And of course we cannot know about the F4 hoh, F4 pov and F3 hoh, but right now, Natalie could say she had performed better than Sharon. On the other hand, Sharon proabably has three votes already in the jury house. Ryan will want to keep Sharon, I think and he can go right up til the last minute with his proposed "calling out" of Natalie, which they are sure will cause a cat fight among the women, and he can still vote to boot Nat, no matter what Adam does, because then it will be up to Sheila to break the tie. Of course it didn't occur to Sharon to tell the boys they could have all of her future beer if they kept her in the house..
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Bbnut
Member
06-12-2006
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 3:51 pm
Supposedly, early on...this was the plan...I heard Sharon and Ryan saying that they would get Nat out this week and then Sheila next week and it would be Ryan, Adam, and Sharon...final 3...and she said that Adam was cool with that. It was right after Sheila won HOH.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 3:53 pm
I think that was one of the 5,000 plans they have all come up with...every day it changes. lol
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Marmosquirm
Member
09-10-2003
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 5:31 pm
I still think they're smarter to keep Sharon because if she's on the jury then she, Josh, James and Chelsia will probably vote the same and they'll have the majority on the jury. If they keep Sharon to F2 then the other side has a majority on the jury. Add to that the fact that Nat has been the next to last person to go out on both of the endurance comps so far, I certainly wouldn't want to be up against her for the F3 endurance comp. Seems like a no brainer to me.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 5:56 pm
But it's fine for them to have the majority of the jury as long as one of their own isn't in the final two. Since the four of them will not vote for Natalie to win, the rest should all be thinking about getting rid of Sharon this week and taking Nat to the final two. Also, all three of the women can beat the men at any endurance comp, so that shouldn't even be a factor in their decision.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 11:10 pm
Exactly, Merry. Although we don't really know what James will do, it's very possible there are solid votes against Natalie and solid votes for Sharon. I would definitely go with evicting the one that has solid votes. It's a $500,000 decision and I hope they weigh all their options.
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 7:12 am
If they keep Nat and she wins HOH she will target Shelia. But she could target Adam . If they keep Sharon and she wins HOH she will target Adam. Looks good for Ryan either way. So who does Ryan want in the final 3 with him? Adam can probably beat any of the remaining HG's at the end. He has to get there first. Who can stop him in the final 3? Seems to me Ryan would want to keep Sharon so she can take out Adam for him. Adam needs to get rid of both of them. Who will be easier to take out next week? If they force a tie there is no telling what Shelia will do. Either girl will be grateful for staying and probably join up with her to get rid of one of the boys. These boys need to stop worrying about ticking of the jury. Anyone that lasts this long should not hold a grudge for getting voted out. But who knows with these people.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 8:27 am
I think they should keep Natalie (although I was so happy to see her targeted) but can't stand Sharon easy game, everyone tried to use her as the pawn who would never leave, now even Ryan has secret dealings with her. Natalie fought harder to stay in the game than Sharon and I hope she will defend herself when Ryan calls her out on her lying even though she doesn't know of his secret deal with Sharon. I hope she'll say that everyone is lying to one another because that's the truth. Maybe BB (I think they want Nat to stay) will suggest something to her in the DR... (don't be shocked, it has happened before!)
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Lajonesin
Member
03-22-2008
| Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 5:07 pm
I would not want to be with Nat in the F2. Historically, people have been known to vote for someone they despise if they feel the person has earned the vote. In the end, once tempers have flared down, people will realize that lying was an intregal part of winning the game and excuse past behaviors. No one will win simply for being 'nice' or having pissed off the fewest people i.e. Sharon. Having said that, I think Ryan should keep Nat so she can target Adam and keep him clean of the massacre. I really think she wants to be with Sheila in the end since she mocks her all the time as a weak player. Adam should get her out now. I truly think he's in danger with her around. Sharon's going to be the perpetual pawn until final 3 then she will be out so she doesn't really matter, imo.
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