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Goldie
Member
04-01-2008
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 7:39 am
I agree with Costacat. There is a world of differance between Kaysar/Janell and Natalie. We all loved Kaysar/Janell or most of us did. Natalie was a whole other story. Not everyone loved her. It is true that Shelia would have been dummer than Marcie had she kept her. I agree with Been also.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 8:51 am
yep...not everyone loved Janelle/Kaysar.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 9:45 am
The only thing I really disagree with is that somebody upthread said Sheila isn't a liar. Really? Could had me fooled. I don't blame her one bit for getting rid of Nat, she would have been dumb not to vote Nat out.
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Stopthemadness
Member
07-15-2005
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 1:10 pm
I don't think it really matters at this point if Sheila evicted Nat or Sharon, she will be the next to go.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 1:24 pm
All Nat did was give Sheila something that she could use as her "reason" for voting her out. Sheila always intended that Natalie go, even before the HOH competition. So it wasn't that Natalie gave her no choice, it was that Natalie gave her an excuse.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 1:31 pm
That is correct Keldogg. Dang it, Nat made a mistake giving Sheila that hoh. Oh well, it's all water under the bridge now.
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Slimc21
Member
04-08-2008
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 1:43 pm
It's really too bad that Sheila and the jury might think she made some great move by getting Nat out....No way. She wanted nat out because she just plain couldn't stand her. Just like the jury. That's not game play to me, thats just hatred on Sheila's part. All they ever did was bad mouth Nat and not about the way she played either, just by how she is. Sheila is just one <24> person who has lucked out on getting as far as she has. I also hope her game is DUNNN!
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Govols
Member
07-19-2005
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 1:43 pm
Haven't liked Shelia from day one. Anyone that could do what she did to Natalie shouldn't be able to look at themselves in the mirror. I don't care if it's just a game... she has issues!!!
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 1:44 pm
Well, what do you know?? I am in full agreement with Earthmother, I remember how we agreed to disagree last season (about Dick). But I just said exactly the same thing under the tv show thread about Sheila's move to evict Nat and how the boys made sure Nat wouldn't have any room to work Sheila after exposing her double game in front of Sheila. Calling out Nat in front of Sheila seemed dumb at the time (especially Sheila couldn't see the need for that, hello?? How else could she know for sure of Nat's loyalty to the boys? the meeting was an excellent move. Nat calling out Sharon was simply lame as it worked even further against her as Sharon was very careful not to involve the boys while Nat was hoping she would. Sheila had no choice but to evict Natalie. Now Sheila should think of her next move to stay one more week and wake up and notice how Ryan is protecting Sharon.
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Queenfish
Member
07-19-2006
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 1:46 pm
keldogg-you are right, she even said that to adam and ryan before the hoh comp last night while julie and nat were "evesdropping", she said, "at least Natalie said that so i could use it as an excuse to put her out, thanks you guys". In a very sarcastic manner. I, personally, think that everybodys game is their game, regardless to weather or not I agree with their stratagies (lying, backstabbing ect.) cause there are no rules and everyone knows that going in. Sheila has played the game her way just like everyone else has. So did James , Evil dick, boogie, ect. It's all fair game. Nat played her game, and she made a huge mistake. She should have learned the first time she gave away the HOH to James and got off the disco ball. But she didn't, she turned around and let it happen to her again. dumb move. SO, it is her fault she is gone, not sheilas.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 1:53 pm
hahaha Spunky...
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 1:59 pm
How on earth can someone constantly say, "I am a single mother and I can not do such things," when she has done a lot worse than most of the houseguests. She did not want anyone talking badly about her for fear her son would see, but took pride in belittling any and everyone she could. She made comments about how she did not like people who lied, but yet, she has lied far more than any one else in the house including those in sequester. She stated to anyone who would listen that she never watched the other shows but knew oh so much about the seasons and the players... Sheila should be shock back into the real world because she used Natalie to get where she is in the game, then threw her away. She claim to know nothing about an alliance but was fast to run to whom ever in the group won HOH...How on earth will she be able to look at herself after this game is over, there is no way she can hide her true self from the world because it has be broadcast for the world to see. <77>
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Queenfish
Member
07-19-2006
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 2:03 pm
its all part of the game
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 2:05 pm
Part of the game or not the way she treated people was very cruel and unfair.
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Slimc21
Member
04-08-2008
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 2:06 pm
Right on the money Steeltoe! ...and she thinks when her book is written, she'll be on Oprah.....o brother.
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 2:10 pm
I totally agree with Govols..... And I never hated Sheila until last night......Sheila accused Natalie CONSTANTLY of everything that Sheila has been guilty of for weeks...and Sheila truly thinks she is JUSTIFIED??!! OMG!! Sheila even told Adam last night when he asked....."So, Sheila...just when did you hook up with Sharon?" And Sheila said..."When I realized I couldn't trust Natalie..." and Adam said, "Oh...like a week or so ago???" and Sheila said..."NO...RIGHT AFTER MATTIE LEFT!!!" Adam said..."So you have been "playin" Natalie this whole time??" and Sheila said (with a straight face)...."No...honey...Natalie was tying to play ME!" OMG! (Poor Natalie....Sheila would use any excuse to get rid of her...Sheila was soooo threatened by Natalie and the boy's fondness for her and her ability in physical comps..... Sheila talks entirely too much and had the NERVE to accuse Natalie of playing the "end game" too soon....Sheila actually seems to believe her justifications....<77> Sheila's sense of entitlement to win this game is only rivaled by James's, <77>
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Bubba
Member
07-29-2005
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 2:10 pm
Nat never liked Shelia, she made fun of her and talked behind her back, she wanted Shelia gone after Sharon, so Shelia got a chance to ax Nat before Nat axed her, and she took it. Good job Shelia. It is a game and Shelia did what she did to surive another week.
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Goldie
Member
04-01-2008
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 2:12 pm
As far as I know there is nothing against the rules in using someone to further yourself in the game. Certainly Nat used the guys to get as far as she did too. They all use eachother.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 2:18 pm
Sheila is playing the game her way. Doesn't mean I like it, doesn't mean I respect it, doesn't mean I respect her. Yes, it got her to stay in the house longer than Natalie and a lot of other people. But I think in the long run, it's going to hurt her. There is life outside this Big Brother house, and her dreams of fame and riches are not going to come true. A couple of months down the road, she's still going to be a 46 year old single mother trying to scrape up acting jobs. The only difference is that people will remember her for her actions and behavior in the BB house.
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 2:21 pm
I have something else to say....(LOL! I know...I know....LOL!) I am really sick and tired of people saying it is JUST a GAME....and any game play is acceptable.....Well...NOT TO ME....and not to Sharon....and a few others....like Janelle, Kaysar etc.....even some winners from the past....When everyone AGREES to be in alliance until the final four, and it is WITHIN THEIR POWER TO DO SO....(that is the catch phrase) and they BETRAY their first, promised alliance like Sheila and her group did....and/or SWEAR in a BIG moment of the gsme to NOT evict that person....ala Jennifer/Kaysar, James/Mattie, Sheila/Natalie....it is the MOST HEINEOUS behavior imaginable and is unforgiveable in my mind. Every year when/if this happens, I feel the same way..... Of course, at the final four everyone has to lie and scramble, etc....and they all knew that...but to kick Natalie out of the alliance for greed and selfish reasons, was WRONG on all three of them in my opinion and I believe...YES...I believe, that GOD will pay them back with Karma...and SHARON will win this thing....(Never liked Sharon...she was in the wrong alliance to me...but she was FAITHFUL....and I gotta give it to her...)
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Queenfish
Member
07-19-2006
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 2:42 pm
sorry , I know it isn't a popular opinion but, I just think it's all part of the game, lying, cheeting ect. and that is how I feel. I am surely free to feel that way, as you are allowed to feel the way you do. I didn't personally like the way Natalie played the game. She was very hypocritical in my opinion, with her mis-use of scripture and such. But again, it is all fair in the game, if that is how she chooses to play. just my opinion
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Bbnine
Member
02-16-2008
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 2:44 pm
But I think in the long run, it's going to hurt her. There is life outside this Big Brother house, and her dreams of fame and riches are not going to come true. A couple of months down the road, she's still going to be a 46 year old single mother trying to scrape up acting jobs. The only difference is that people will remember her for her actions and behavior in the BB house. YES!!
                 
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 2:50 pm
That's right Caycaye, you tell them...
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 4:20 pm
I don't have a problem with how any of them CHOOSE to play the game, the part I don't like is calling someone out on the SAME things you are doing. I guess that's part of game play too, but I just don't like it. It really offended me when Ryan, of all people, called Natalie out for working both sides...hello...who have you NOT had an alliance with Ryan. Sheila, and I've said this before but to stay on topic, is very self absorbed and she does act like it's the job of the guys to get HER to final 3...well why should they? It was an alliance of 4 and she went after part of that so if Ryan and Adam do the same thing to her well....like someone else said KARMA!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 4:38 pm
It's totally a game. And it's totally about WINNING that game, and winning $500K. As long as no one is physically hurt (and no one ever has been), there's nothing wrong with doing whatever you think you have to do to get to the end. There are certain rules in the BB rule book, and those are the ONLY rules in the game.
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