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Monday, September 10, 2007 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
Zach gets up suddenly and buzzes into DR.

Dani asking Dick why his DR was so long.

Dick asks if Zach is going back in? Dani says I'm sure.

Loud belches from Dick as he grabs a bag of something and heads out onto patio sofa again.

All cams now on backyard.

Dani comes out and says she thinks this week is going to be totally different from what they thought...as far as schedules? She thinks the live show is going to be Tuesday and that she will be using the Veto Live.

Dick says ohhh..because it's already played out?

She says not just that..she thinks the show will end on Sunday. (ed - I gather that she is just guessing stuff as they haven't been told anything)

She says she asked them if the Veto meeting was going to be today and all they would say is all I can tell you is "expect the unexpected". Says that makes sense.

Dick says so it's not going to be today?

She says she assumes not, because it's always in the mornings and it's almost 4 now.

Says she thinks she's going to use it on the live show and the show's going to end.

Dick says then I'm not going to be able to make my effing speech. She says yeah you can. He says my speech was long.

Dani says good though. Maybe we'll get this show on the road if it starts tomorrow.

Dick says it won't be tomorrow. She says she hopes so because she's kind of excited.

Dick starts counting days and says maybe it will end on Thursday. Says they have to give us a day to sleep after the endurance.

They talk about the 3 part competition and the person who leaves has to go to the jury house and then 2 left in the house...then Sunday makes perfect sense. Says she hopes so...she is excited, sick of waiting and bored out of her mind.

Dick wonders if they altered the schedule at all because of Jameka. Says it's played out. There is no question. The decision has been made.

Says the network has their schedule planned out though...he doesn't think they're going to change their schedule because of us.

Daniele whispering something to Dick now which I can't hear. He chuckles. Now laughs. (something said in DR I think)

Dani says we're going to be the youngest and the oldest that made it to the end.

BB Voice comes over and says you are NOT allowed to talk about the DR.

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Monday, September 10, 2007 - 3:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
Dick says "I said Vincent and your grandmother". We get TRIVIA.

Back from Trivia and Dick yells up to the BB in the sky, "come on, is it one hour? two hours? 24 hours?

Says they aren't going to answer. Dani tells him to go to the DR and ask. (trying to find out when veto ceremony is)

Dani says wait I think Zach is in the DR right now. Adds...munching panties.

Dick say yeah I think he's still in there.

Dani says the only thing she would say is expect the unexpected. Says she told her I'd better be able to use that Veto.

BB Voice interrupts and says HGs you are not supposed to talk about your DR.

Dani and Dick head inside.

(I thought he said something about a lockdown but I could have heard that wrong)

Zach and Jameka are sitting on living room sofas.

Dani and Dick have gone into Dick's bedroom.

Dick says look at the two of them sitting out there on the couch together. What's up with that?

Says he's totally pulling a Jen...trying to talk to you every time you are within earshot. Dani makes a blechh sound after she says something which I missed.

Dani says you don't think they are having it today do you?

Dick says he has been hearing hammering and sawing all day long.

Something about someone telling Dick there was going to be a 24 hour lockdown (not sure when) and we go to TRIVIA.

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Monday, September 10, 2007 - 4:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
Zach and Jameka have moved up to HOH room discussing silly questions BB comes up with...now talking about numbers and questions that could come up.

Dick is in his room listening to CD now. Dani says something to him and he takes headphones off saying there is nothing else to do. Laughs.

Dani says I'm serious...I'm going to go upstairs with THEM.

Dick says why is Jameka up there with him? Why are they hanging out together? Dani says maybe she feels like she can't hang out with us. Dick says we need to make her feel more comfortable.

Dani says only thing going on this week is us bashing Zach and Zach acting like an idiot and following us around so it's pointless. Says so it really does make sense if they get this show on the road. Dani repeats "expect the unexpected". (PP)

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Monday, September 10, 2007 - 4:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
3:59pm
Jameka and Zach relax in the quiet peaceful space of his neat and tidy HOH room. They are doing some quizzing, suddenly Jameka asks Zach if she could borrow his shaving cream. Zach doesn't hesitate and says Yes. She then asks if he has Qtips, and he tells her where. She gets them.

She uses the shaving cream as ink and qtip as a pen to calculate some figures. (check screencaps for a picture, it would be fun to see).

BB: Jameka, Knock it off! (BB voice is trying to stifle a chuckle).

Jameka: Ooooooh Sorry BB, I didn't realize that was illegal.

She and Zach do a bit more training.

Jam: Now if they say the remaining houseguests which would be you three...(she's 22) They are talking about if BB asks the total for all the ages combined for the HGs.

BB: Houseguests, the lockdown is now over and you are now free to move about the house.

Zach: I don't want them to win both prizes.
Jameka: mmmhmmm as in yes.
Zach: I'll take Daniele to the end if I win. I keep thinking more about what you said, and it makes more sense.
Jameka: I think its more admirable and the other way would look cockier and taking her would work towards your favor.
Zach: Yes.

More Jedi training.

Jam: Maybe how many chairs in the lounge, how many mirrors, things like that. You know how many pictures are in the little room?
Zach: I thought it was 17
Jam: Hmmm maybe more
Zach: I just don't see why that would be relevant.
Jam: It comes down to maybe if we've been here all these days and don't know it type of thing.
Zach: I have no idea what day I streaked the pool, I think it was day 17
Jam: I don't remember who was HOH then.

Jam sits in a lovely fuscia top with white shorts in the white swivel chair. Zach is leaned back against his headboard wearing his grey Wintrhop University Tshirt. His handsome clean face and spiked dark hair provides a nice contrast against the blue suede of the headboard. It definitely highlights his blue eyes.

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Monday, September 10, 2007 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
Dick & Dani compare Zach to Erica in BB7.

Dick says even IF Zach made it to the final two, he would make a complete ass out of himself.

Dick says in some voice I can't describe..as if in a goodbye speech to Zach...."Zach sorry to see you go....you and your teeth and your crusty teeth". Dani grins and says ewwwww.

Upstairs in HOH bathroom Jameka was using something (liquid soap I think) to do some math problems that maybe she and Zach were trying to figure out. BB Voice says Jameka KNOCK it OFF.

Jameka says oh, that is illegal? Sorry...just trying to use some tools available to work out a problem. Wipes off the soap math from the sink. Says well, I tried. Mmm mmm mmm. Goes back into HOH room and sits down. Tells BB, you guys are ridiculous.

Zach starts to work out the problem in head, but I'm not sure what he is trying to figure out. I have quad cam on so can't hear conversations completely.

Dani goes to get some food out of SR. Dick is in living room talking to a cam trying to get it to nod yes or no to his questions of how long they are going to be under a lockdown. Says they aren't going to tell them. Says just like a chick...she tells you what she wants you to hear and that's all.

BB Voice comes over and says HGs the lockdown is over. Dick and Dani laugh. Dani says maybe it WAS a banner plane and Zach IS the mastermind. Laughs.

Dick looks outside and says okay, so they moved the giraffe back.

Heads into SR and grabs last loaf of bread. Tells Dani this is the last loaf of bread. Dani says I tell you, something is up.

She thinks the show is going to be moved along faster. Says tomorrow she can just see it..."special live show on Tuesday". Says they do that every year.

Says besides...tomorrow is when they show the Veto and the ceremony and they haven't had the ceremony yet and they have to tape it for tomorrow's show and they haven't done that. (PP)

Dick says something's a brewing. Dani says there HAS to be a live show tomorrow.

Dick says when he woke up and came out to the kitchen and saw it was 2 o'clock he thought what the hell, man.

Dani says they have enough pasta to last 5 years, but 2 things of milk and 1 thing of cookies.

Dick says he complained about the cookies.

Dani says I know but they haven't done anything about it and I'm upset about it.

Dick goes back into SR to check out food again.

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Monday, September 10, 2007 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
(ahhh...shaving cream...glad you caught that Loppes)

Jameka still talking with Zach up in HOH room.

Zach says this is the first time he has ever felt uncomfortable around other people when he goes downstairs.

Jameka pretty much tells him why even confront that kind of situation...just avoid them. She knows what he means.

Downstairs, Dick has been eating a sandwich he made himself. Dani has been cooking something at stove. Still hoping and wishing and thinking that BB will be speeding up the events and ending of the show.

(I have to go now and make dinner)

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Monday, September 10, 2007 - 4:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
4:09pm
Jameka and Zach continue with their training, remembering what day Jen was in her unitard. Jam looks really sweet and cute today having braided her hair last night. Her more pink rather than fuscia little top compliments her lip gloss and radiates her pretty face. Her choice of jewelry today is silver - a necklace, bracelet and earrings and ring.

Jam and Zach now try recall when the cuffing took place. Then remember when Mike went out on his date.

Both houseguests speak softly and warmly as they recall various events. A zoom out shot shows the red blanket Zach received in his HOH basket which is perfectly folded over the lower end of the bed. Along the bottom of one end of the red blanket it says: Zach Swerdzewski. Further up its one from Leon College 1995. The state of the HOH room clearly shows that Zach would make any wife proud with his neat habits.

Zach: (they both look at spy cam briefly) I don't understand why those two are still bitter.
Jam: Game, they want to get ahead.


Back to Jedi training, they remember Strongest Man was on Monday, and work through that week in their minds.
Zach: ...She was handcuff on 15th day...
Jam: What day were the visitors here?
Zach: Day 46?
Jam: What day was Amber handcuffed?
Zach: 15
JAm: What was strongest man?
Zach: 18
JAm: Amber and Mike's date?
Zach: 16
JAm: 46th the little people

Zach: This is weird, this is the first time in years that I've ever felt uncomfortable in front of other people.
Jam: Yes, my dad used to say just avoid, why even bother to confront those types of people.
Zach: I just don't care, its so funny to me and makes me laugh that people are given a place in this and people are sugar coated happy with you for one moment then totally evil the next. For the most part I think I've tried to play and not take anything person.
Jameka: Would you still have nominated me and Jess, from what we know now?
Zach: From what I know now? Umm (he pauses and thinks)If I knew what I knew now I would have sent him packing and kept Eric.
Jam: Yes it still comes down to that veto that Dani won. Who knows how it would have affected ED.
Jam: Yes, one wonders how much further he would have gotten without her here.
Zach: I didn't know Eric well enough, and didn't think I would make it to F3 with the support of D/D either.
Jam: With Eric in the state he was in, I'm not sure if he would have been as willing to go over information with ED if he stayed.
Zach: I didn't have strong footing with you, and I didn't fully trust Eric, I just didn't know him.
Jam: Yeah you didn't have time.
Zach: I knew F3 comes down to your own performance, but what I didn't consider that he would sit there and mouth off like he does (meaning Dick). I knew between those 3 I had a good chance of winning in F2.
Jameka: yes.
Zach: I knew they weren't going to take me, and I knew I wouldn't make it into F3 without them before. I haven't watched too many BBs but I feel I'm in a position I put myself in that is dissimilar from other people competing in a 3 way.
Like Janelle, Erika, Boogie. E/B knew they couldn't win against Janelle. I feel I'm in the same position as Janelle was, now. Janelle had to fight to try get to F2.
Zach: And I know how you feel like right now Jameka, you are so close to the end of the tunnel, so close.
Jameka: Yes, I still see some light. Anything can happen in this game.
Zach: Oh if I win the first comp, I wish I could just hear you where you are. I think what a blowout if I could just take one of them down.
Jameka: Yes...mmm hmm
Zach: Much as I would hate to take Daniele to the end, she has won literally everything, trip to NY, clothing, etc. She's benefited the most from this game.
Jameka: Just go over your points in your head, how you've played and compare it to how she's played.
Zach: Yes, if I hadn't thrown a few comps, I may have had some. It would have hurt for me to have the power at those times.
I think it says a lot to who is sitting in the Jury to see ED walk through the door, and that I am not there, that I obviously fought my a** off to try take one of them off.
Jameka: mm hmmm (meaning yes).
Zach: For anyone who thinks Dani is a good competitor, she is, but by far going up against an impossible situation, that is only possible by your own hand. That's the big weight on my shoulders right now. Its a lot to take in. I could just see Dustin and Eric saying, "man thats a good competition you pulled off".
Jam: Yes Yeah, and you have to look at all the people who went home at their own hands.
Zach: Actually if you think about it, every single person went because of them, and if they get to F2 its clear.
Zach: Eric would have had such a good chance with me, if he just had more time with me. (referring to Thursday POV nom of Eric). But, he didn't talk to me even, until day 40. All he had to be was cooler to me, and he probably would have still been here. I don't understand some of his statements.
Jam: Yes, I know.
Zach: I never forget him sitting here saying, as a courtesy not to put him up,
Jam: And the alternative to put up would have been me then. Its funny how he's quick to call people out on their words, yet he wouldn't give his word. After Amber, he stopped that. Because he went to Dustin and told him Amber can't change her mind to vote him out because she gave him her word on her daughter's life.
Zach: I'm grateful I didn't break my word on anything in this game. Ever see Shawdshank Redemption? He crawled through 2 football fields of sh*t and ended up clean on the other side.
Jam: Yes....and the tool?
Zach: It was a little rock hammer. He said, I was "innocent on the inside, but had to be a criminal to get out". Morgran Freeman is one of my favorite actors (ed. mine too!!! and my fav movie SSRedemption :-) ).
Jam agrees....
Jam and Zach then talk about James Earl Jones and his great acting. (yes!!!)

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Monday, September 10, 2007 - 4:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
4:40pm
Jameka and Zach continue to talk about various movies, laughing at some of them. They both are relaxed and calm looking, just having a clean fun chat. They both smile and both reveal the nicest clean white looking teeth.

They talk about Arsenio Hall, and hosting Star Search,
Jam: On StarSearch he looked horrible! That was his last thing! I think it maybe lasted 2 seasons.
Jam: I enjoyed Harlem Nights...Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, Red Foxx
Zach: I like Richard Pryor before he died.

They now return to more Jedi training.

TRIVIA

Zach and Jameka decide to make something to eat together. They seem to agree on bbqing something.
They now go downstairs.

(Disclaimer Note: In the event someone is wondering what Dick and Daniele are doing, its the same verbage downstairs as has been reported before. I am happy to provide LF posting from this point, about more calmer, less stressful happenings in the BB house. That is why I am just focussing on Jameka/Zach conversation. I have no issue if anyone else will post on the other two HGs, but I myself won't be)

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Monday, September 10, 2007 - 5:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
4:59pm
Zach takes some items out to the BBQ Dick is over by the outside patio couch, Daniele joins him. Zach then goes over to the bench press, and looks like he's going to lift some weights, while the BBQ warms.

Zach now positions himself on the bench and begins to lift weights. He lifts some and sits for a bit to get his breath. He lowers down and begins his next set of lifts.

The cam spans around the back yard. The outdoor chess board is in view but there are only 3 chess players on it. I'm not sure where the others pieces are.

Zach now sits up after his second set of lifting.
He wears sunglasses and looks up toward the sky a bit and then begins his third set of lifting weights.

TRIVIA

NOt sure of the weight lbs. but I think its 100 or 200 lbs weights.
He sits and gets his breath again before the next set. Its clear he is fit and strong enough to lift them with enough ease. No grunts or groans.

Jameka comes outside now, where she says she'll probably have some left overs. Zach tells her he can grill something if she wants something in about 20 minutes. Jameka thinks abit about what she wants. She says she'll probably do the leftovers and then have whatever Zach makes for dinner.
She returns to the kitchen where Dick follows her and tells her she's more then welcome to hang out with them, instead of hanging with Zach and then leaves.
Jameka gets her left over snacks together at the breakfast counter onto a plate. Everyone else is still outside.

(Correction on earlier observation. Jameka is wearing pink and not white shorts today. )

Jameka's plate of food is now warmed by the microwave, and she adds some chips to the plate. She tidies up after herself. Zach enters and she asks him how many reps he did. Zach answers 10 or 15.

Zach sits down at the counter and drinks some juice or pop.
Zach: I love the weather outside, its getting so nice. Would it be really cold in DC right now?
Jam: No, same as this probably definitely 80s or low 80s. Probably drops to 50s at night right now. (She gets some ice for her drink).
Zach goes to the fridge and looks for something inside.
Jameka now takes her plate and walks around the counter to sit down and eat there, rather than going outside.
Jam: So if you weren't here what would you be eating?
Zach: Go down the street for some Thai food.
There is this place renovated and the food and atmosphere is incredible and the food is so cheap.
Jam: mmm my kind of spot.
Zach: I like the spicey noodle food they have.
Jam: I was trying to think what they use a lot of - ginger.
Zach: Yeah. Hmm I may go for the "easy out" too (meaning something to eat).
Zach goes to the SR and asks Jam if she needs anythhing from there.
Jameka: mmm no thanks.
She continues eating, while Zach returns.
Zach: I remember the first day, I must have been 7 or so, when we bought a microwave and I was like "what the h*ll is this? and I thought it must be the most amazing thing invented"
Jam: Yes, I remember our first one, it was that size (like in the BB house), not too big.
Zach: I just couldn't believe what it could do. My mom, we were in middle school, she would just toss in left overs in those divided trays and heat them up in the micro"
Jameka: Jess doesn't eat leftovers, she says she will but she hates it. Her mom generally doesn't do them because she knows Jess don't like it.
Not in my house, my mom would cook like 3 or 4 things at once, Fridays..for stuff through the weekend.
Both Zach and Jam now sit side by side eating.
Jam: She'd do salmon fish cakes, always fish on fridays. I hated it. (she laughs).
Zach: Did your dad ever not approve of any guys you dated?
Jam: ummm no, there was one guy, and he said like "don't you bring that fool up here again" and the guy says, "How are you doing sir?" and I'm like telling him, don't you say that, (she chuckles).
I only dated two people though in high school. Found my high school sweetheart, then went to college, then couple dates post college.
All of the guys I dated had such cool parents.
Zach: Yeah I loved my ex girlfriends parents.
Zach: my dad is a big "music producer" (at home I believe...). My brother plays a piano.
Zach: In my letters its like Thad and Jen say blah blah blah and Stash and Sean? say, blah blah...
Zach: I'm so happy this is coming to an end, I'm so sick of this. I miss riding my bike, I usually take it out about this time and go for a ride.
Jam: My friend got me one for my birthday last year, been asking asking for it, I been on it only twice! I got so sore!!!!!!! I was like this was a lot of work!
Zach: Yeah. Being outside earlier you can see the weather is turning now, I was hoping I would be out. Summer is gone for sure.
Jam: Yeah, put away the sandals now.
Jam: I was thinking, I really enjoyed my last few days here - even if we did decide to come together, its like you and I HAD to trust each other, whereas before if Eric was here it would have been questionable.
Zach: Yes, I just don't think we ever had a chance.
Zach: yes looking back, tons of things I probably regret, like with Eric, maybe things could have been different.
Jam: Me and Amber (excluding Jess) I thought consensus of the house was that you were definitely with the Donatos to F3 earlier.
They just didn't take it seriously. (Meaning when Zach would try be friends with them).
...TRIVIA
Jam: I told Dani when we were out there for the Cat Scratch, it was Jess, Me, Dani...
Zach: He was something else, Daniele lost, ERic was fine,,,,and then at the one point I knew it was gonna be me, or Amber, and then when Eric got the POV I knew he wouldn't use it on me, and then he didn't pull Amber off, and I thought something is going on. Then I felt well I'm not valuable....Then Eric spilled his guts to the Donatos.
Jameka: Yes, thats when I stopped trusting him.
Zach: Any time I would try say something, he was like "i'm not listening to you". Then after when Dick came to me and said if I win HOH and don't put them up, they won't vote me. But there was no confirmation. I didn't trust them, but I will take what they offer because thats all I have and I will ride that as far as I can, until I get into a position where I don't have to.
Funny thing is Eric kept coming to me, when he was fighting for himself not to go up on the block, ad he's like "I can obviously see you're not gonna put D/D on the block" All Eric had to do was at that moment spill his guts, and totally made a move where I would have had the chance to put them up. But as soon as NIck left and the alliance fell apart, then going under the radar and kinda riding on their coattails,,,no one cared, cuz they had other targets, so I felt if I could ride them, and at the same time if I had a chance to get them out. I was hoping things could have been stronger with JEss, but what gave her away to me, she looked straight in my eye and said, "Oh don't worry I know you can trust me and I can trust you" straight out flat out. Then at that moment I thought maybe something is working. Then the next day I go up. I thought you sneaky b*tch. And Eric was right there. She boldfaced lied. And I had thought we can get equal people we want out of here. But it just didn't happen. I even wanted her to at least say, "Hey you are going up, but she flat out lied right there, and thats when I knew I can't trust her". She completed killed everything I had worked to try build something that would work with her. But it just turned to sh*t after, and especially when I put her up.
Jam: That would explain why when Jess and I would have talks, Eric would come interrupt, and now Jess swore "We're close but I don't tell him everything".
Zach: She told me when you were on your date, that she and you were close but not that close.
Jam: mmm hmm and on that Cat Scratch at that point, Amber goes up there, and I"m there its between her and Eric. and Jess is whispering like, "Come on Eric" (cheering for Eric). I knew right then something was up, cuz I wondered why would she care about cheering for Eric and not Amber?
Zach: Yes I heard her and I'm saying who cares? and she said "no I want Eric to win". Then she looked at me strange when I said I wanted Amber to win. And she was "NO we want Eric to win!"
Jam: This was a h*ll of a game.
Zach: Eric was shifty
Jam: Yes, sheisty! I thought you can't come in and start wheeling and dealing and if you are that type of a chamelion, I thought his personality would be what gets him through this game.
Zach: As soon as I knew the alliance fell apart , I knew we were going down one by one, and I thought I need to do everything in my power to be a nobody, I played chess by myself, and things to keep low.
Zach: I would say for like week 3, 4,5,6 I knew I wasn't gonna go up, I just had a feeling, because I was low key and that there were people with crazy emotions erupting others behaviors and I was like, "sweet, its not me" and I thought fine, Dustin and Jen, they are my blessings in disguise, as long as I say nothing and hide in the corner. I knew I would get nominated at some point, but never did I think it would be at JEss's hand. Never in a million years would I have thought that one.

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Monday, September 10, 2007 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
5:45pm
Jam and Zach still sit at the breakfast counter talking about the past game plays. Daniele walks in and past them to the kitchen sink and tells them they can eat some of some cookie bars she made last night.
Zach: You realize Jess left those big blocks of chocolate in the fridge?
Dani: Yeah I ate some.
They all laugh.
Zach asks if Dani had any cavities, she smiles says yes she did lots when she was a kid. She leaves.

Zach back to Jam: I really have had great moments with you too these past few days Jam, your boosts, and I appreciate it, and I've had good times in that way, and I always said from beginning, I never felt we had differences, and would like to think I have been brought up pretty well and by example, and they would always tell me that you hate me, Eric would say that, and others. And Eric especially when you were up with JEss would tell me that you are going "crazy", and I knew you weren't going home.
Jam: DAniele was saying that I had been throwing shoes around, and I was like, "no, no!"
(Now Dick has entered and goes to the kitchen sink area).
Zach: I see they took the middle camera out, wonder if its cuz they don't need it any more.
Dick: Less and less staff.
Jam: So I wonder what happens to all of them, if they move on to the next show or what.
Dick: Yeah they are probably some on the Survivor Crew now. (He leaves back outside).

Zach and Jam continue chatting.
Zach: When I was doing the acting thing, I would do as many as I could, then take the UE cheque based on same % of money I earned to do what I could.
Zach: Yeah she said something like you were throwing shoes!
Jam: Yeah, well thats like how could I pack without getting things together, you saw my suitcase. Then Dick 2 nights ago tells me that I lost it and was going crazy and throwing shoes.
I'm like what are you talking about. Then I looked directly at Daniele and I said directly to her, "Daniele that is a lie, that is not true!" and she just sat there like ....
Zach: Dick would keep telling me, "These people should not take things personally" over and over, and now in here, this is exactly whats happening with them. Short , impolite.
Jam: Yeah and she finally said to me that I was, and I said I was not! I was not slamming any shoes down and dont' try and uh huh....I saw she was sleeping and then I left. Don't try hype it up was what I thought of her.
Zach: Yes, they would hype things up, and now I think back, Dick, Eric maybe Joe, just people who would say total BS about someone to get a rise for tv.
Jam: Yes, and not only that its like it would take the focus off them.
Zach: I look at like the letter from my family, they saying or commending me saying i'm doing a great job. I thought that what people are thinking on the outside of us, is possibly different.
Jam: Yes, at this point nothing shocks me any more, the last thing with them was the Jess/Eric thing.
Zach: I don't think Jess honestly knew how to play when she walked through the door, and its almost like she had to have people educated her on how not to be so nice. I don't think she honestly plays strategy games often. Eric definitely had a lot of coercing skills that changed her view. But you and her I saw got along well. Among say you, Jess and Eric, I would put him as the "dastardly villan" he never really took responsibility for anything.
Jam: Of course, thats whats so ironic on Jess upstairs taking a bath and saying she wished she had done her nominations differently, but then she would say, "I take full responsibility" and one feels like asking, "Is Eric playing your HOH this week?", but then she would keep saying she takes full responsibility.
Zach: I think thats a cop out by her, and I think she wanted to be in power, but just had no idea how to do it, so she would turn to Eric. I can see how he was very good with his words. But still, even when he was given a chance to monumental change the game, when he was walking out the door, he had 5 people he could have counted on and with that POV he didn't use it and he failed. To me that was such a mistake.
Jameka: That was huge, that was what changed my thoughts of him.
Zach: But he was like he didn't want to put Jess in a bad spot.
Jam: But that was his cop out and thats how he used her.
Zach: But by then even they had something going on with each other, and who's to say, whatever I could have said, it wouldn't have mattered.
Jam: Yes and neither way the bottom line was their plan didn't work, and you and I are still here.
Zach: Eric was always so good with words, and its blows my mind because I would have loved to have seen how he would have performed in......TRIVIA interrupted his sentence.

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6:04pm Still TRIVIA not sure why its longer right now.

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6:07pm
Feeds back then shortly after more TRIVIA.

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6:09pm Feeds return to show Jameka washing dishes at the kitchen sink. Zach is in the area.

Jam: you know what that is? Something tomorrow.
Zach: Live show probably
Jam: I don't know, something is up, they are gonna have to tell me to pack.
(BB must have told them something about something happening in 20 minutes...)

Zach: All I have to do is shut him up, and win tomorrow.
Jameka: Yep!

They both now go outside, and Jameka is heard saying, "you all excited?" Dick is heard saying, "about being locked down for the night"

Okay BB told them there is a lockdown in 20 minutes.

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6:12pm All 4 HGs are sitting in the outside patio couch area now,

Jam: I wonder if we will hear, "houseguests please clean ..."
Dani: I don't know
Jam: That's so cool, those people that were here, if they are now on Survivor (she refers to Dick's earlier comment inside the house about BB crew staff being less now).
Zach: Survivor is in China this year.
Jam: China? Wow that plane ride over there, good lord.

Daniele hopes they give them something to do tonight.

Zach asks Dick if he's been anywhere besides Europe, he says he hasn't but was gonna go to Japan then SARS happened.

DAni comments on being in junior high when the anthrax broke out. Zach raises his eyebrow a moment but doesn't say anything regarding JH and age of Dani.

They talk about some movies. But Dick mostly talks to Jameka.

(going to take a break for a bit.....)

Not sure they are currently on outside lockdown, and not sure if they are out for 20 minutes. It appears the 20 minutes refers to how long the HGs have to be outside.

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6:48pm
Update on lockdown.

It seems the HGs are now on an indoor 24 hour lockdown. The D's are in the round bedroom, talking about what they usually do.

Jameka is laying down on her bed and reading her bible verses.
Zach is up in HOH room.

Not sure what this means, but Dick did slip something about some sort of a meeting. I can't verify what that refers to.

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7:46pm Update.
Jam and Zach have been sleeping, while the Donatos do their usual verbal discussion.

at about 7:44pm D/D decide to go from the round bedroom to the kitchen for a change of scenery. Then suddenly somehow Jameka is awake. So is Zach walking through from another part of the house.
Jameka walks by D/D straight to the bathroom, they say something to her, and she says: "Startling" and nothing else and walks right past them. They both wonder what that was all about (so does this poster). The D's talk about her odd comment.
Shortly after she returns from the bathroom area, walks right past them without a word. They continue to wonder what or why she said what she said.

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7:50pm
Zach is awake, and he's down in the kitchen where Dick and Dani sit at the breakfast counter glaring at him. Zach goes in the fridge, then takes something out that has spoiled and throws it out. He goes into the Storage room and is bent over doing something, but we can't tell because his back is to us. Of note though, is that Jameka's suitcase is not visible in the SR where BB usually puts them for the nomineees. Zach now leaves the SR and comes back toward the kitchen area and the sink. Perhaps he was emptying what was spoiled into a garbage can in the SR.

BB: Daniele please go to the Diary Room.

Zach stands at the sink washing a few dishes.

TRIVIA briefly

Zach now returns to his HOH room. He lays down on his bed. Zach chews on something.
(A correction to an early post - Zachs red blanket doesn't say Leon College, but Leon Lions).

To the left of Zach on his bed apppears to be the letter from his parents. He's still snacking on something out of a bag and reads the label on the snack bag, but I can't tell what he's snacking on.

The HOH bed is on the same wall as the door to HOH, and if the door is in front of you the bed, probably a 'california king size' is just to the right of the HOH door. The snack food may be bridge nut mix - but who knows, it could be M&Ms.
It looks like he probably has the spy cam on.

TRIVIA as the D's downstairs talk about the wrap party and something about security.

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8:07pm Trivia Continues,
Finally back, we find Zach re-reading the letter from his family. (Downstairs the Donatos worry about water being involved in the comp).

Zach now reads through the book his mother had written which he received in his first HOH.

Jameka must be back in bed sleeping or napping.

Two cams are dedicated to Zach, 1. zoomed out, and the other a close up of the page where I believe his mother's picture is.

BB: Daniele please go to the Diary Room 8:09pm

As Zach flips through his moms book, the cam shows a page with whats possibly a baby picture of Zach. Zach gets to another page of the book, and says to himself in a loving way, "Oh Dad". Next to a page, where it appears his sister's picture is. Zach appears to read every word of every page of the family book.

Downstairs Dani comes out of DR telling her father that BB has informed her, that "apparently we're supposed to entertain ourselves in this house".

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8:17pm
Dick and DAni want to do something to stir trouble with Zach. She goes up the stairs to do something mean and as she gets up to the top of the stairs BB's voice comes on, none too pleasantly and says, "Knock It Off!", She returns back downstairs.

In HOH Zach has a few more pages to finish.

Downstairs more conspiracy to do something nasty to Zach.
TRIVIA 8:18pm

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8:19pm
2 cams remain on Zach as he flips through the pages of Mom's book, with one cam on each photograph in there. It pauses on one of Zach when he was a little boy. Finally Zach finishes and puts his treasured book back into its clear plastic bag. He picks up the first HOH family card from home and looks at it again, and rereads that letter.

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8:31pm TRIVIA again because of antics going on downstairs.

Zach is still reading his letter from home, and gets tears in his eyes and chokes up crying a bit. Says softly to himself, "I just have to try win tomorrow". He now gets up out of his bed, and all four feeds point downstairs.

BB: Zach please go to the Diary Room.

The Donatos wonder why BB is calling him.

Zach now comes downstairs walks past the Ds and enters DR at 8:33pm.

BB: Daniele Knock it off!!! (this is about the 4th time BB has told her to stop her antics in the past hour. (she was picking at the wall, earlier wanted to steal the door bell to Zach's HOH,,,,,things like that).

8:35pm Zach still in DR

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8:43pm Zach is out of DR, walks by the Donatos and goes upstairs without any communication to them, and vice versa.

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8:52pm Cams now show Zack under the blanket asleep. They also show Jameka awake now and she is on her tummy reading her bible. She is crying and sniffing. She has kleenex in front of her.

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8:58pm Same whining/complaining from the Donatos who are utterly bored.

Zach is in bed, but tosses and turns a bit, something keeps interrupting him with noise, sounds like the voices from the downstairs.

Jameka remains on her bed, flipping through her bible, at times pausing, as though she is looking for a particular voice. Her right palm of her hand goes to her forehead. She pauses at a page, then puts her other hand palm over her eyes, as she still seems to be tearing up. She sniffles from time to time. She makes no effort to get up and mingle with the Donatos who are in the kitchen eating chips into their microphones.

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9:09pm
Jameka now gets up from bed and goes to use the bathroom toilet. She walks through the main area past Dick/Dani who are at the dining table bored as heck. Dick asks Jam if she had a good sleep.
Jam responds briefly, with something that I didn't catch.
Cam shows Zach drifting off to sleep.
Jam now exits the toilet and stands at the mirror in a white tank top and readjusts her one piece pink shorts/hoodie outfit. She washes her hands and leaves the bathroom area. She walks into the kitchen saying she may have a pizza.

Daniele: Entertain us Jameka
Jameka: Yeah Right! I am the entertainment.
She and Dani talk abit about some kind of cookie concoction she had made. Jam tells her its good.
Jameka now leaves and goes to the storage room for a box of cereal or something.
Jameka: refers to the front door, because it seems it was open abit even though locked. She and Dani talk some about how when they were walking through it.
Dani: Yeah when you wouldn't let me get past you.

JAmeka has brought a Digiorno Pizza from the storage room and reads the instructions on making it. She says outloud, "they don't want you to thaw the pizza" Then she says:
Jameka: Well its wine now probably. It's all going downhill from now.
Dani: Or uphill.
(Jameka doesn't respond to that).

Jameka pulls out a trash bag and removes the garbage from the can, and puts a new clean bag in.

Dani sits at the counter picking at her hair.
Jameka now takes the full trashbag and takes it to the Storage Room for disposal. She makes a comment about the decorated topiary bunnies that Dani was fooling around with earlier, in dressing them.
Jameka returns to the kitchen and looks at them again and chuckles.
Dani: That wig is hideous.
Jameka: Absolutely it is.
Jameka then goes upstairs to Zach's HOH room and knocks on the door, She tells Zach she's putting some pizza on and if Zach wants some, she tells him only Dani is down there, and Zach asks what time it is and he says, "Yeah, okay I might come down"
Jameka returns back down to the kitchen and Dani doesn't say a word to her and neither does Jameka to her.
Jameka: Oh Gosh the days are long long
Dani: Tell me about it.
Jameka: But yet is still, Tuesday is just about here.
Jameka: We could paint something and confiscate a plate from the BB house.

(had to step away for 1/2 minute.missed part of conversation but come back to....)
Dani: I was always a really good kid.
Jam: What age would you say was your happiness?
DAni: What do you mean by happiness?
Jam: Everything working out, not worried about friends.
Dani: Probably highschool.
Jam: No body ever had falling out with guys?
DAni: With me only right after graduation. I was friends with everybody, cause you know, I get along with everybody. Four or five of us friends did everything together.

Dani takes about a friend Joe, who she says was a "straight" version of Joe in the house.

TRIVIA

(Dick is listening to music)