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Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Dustin tells zach that he and amber are very very good friends, but are not an alliance. They were voting separately the last two weeks but when POV was used they agreed on the vote.

Zach tells him that it's dangerous because people see them as one. If you and Amber are in the finals, you'd win.

D...week four has just begun. We've got another nine weeks.

Z..you've got a way with women here because you're gay. AND you have a way with men. Six chicks to vote out dudes is nothing. You need to watch out.

D...you are the third person to play the gender card with me

Z .. I didn't

D..yes you did

Z...no. but it's scary.

D...the fact that people are playing gender roles in this game is scary because you're not thinking outside the box.

Z...if all the dudes go home, you're not worried about a six to four type situation?

D...no

Z...your abs class is a great strategy

D...when Jen was HOH i wasn't too worried because...

Z...You had her abs.

D...EXACTLY.
But the gender card really bothers me

Z...I wasn't playing the gender card. My card is face up.

Dustin rehashes what he said about Kail and the alliance...zach argues a bit...dustin says you are thinking in gender terms.

[Dustin is not liking what zach is saying. but zach keeps saying it...saying: the girls could totally screw us over. Dustin is doing a lot of uh huh's mostly.]

Z...I'm just saying be careful about your cards. As the numbers get down...

D...the males and females are divided.

Z...I watched those seasons they gave us and the girls voted the dudes out. Everyone knows that strategy exists.

D...there is potential for it to occur

Z...who do you think is a bad situation here?

D..I think Kail and JEn

Z..I think so because they will side with eachother because they have no one

D...Because people see amber and I as one...

Z...then YOU have to see people as one

D...the situation of pairs is occuring and people could potentially see amber and I as that

Z...they do

D...but Kail and Jen have the ability to win. THose two together, and the fact that they're female has crossed my mind...so yeah. So when you said that, I thought, huh, funnny, i've been thinking that all along

Z...and they shared a bed for two weeks

D...and said they never talked game. I'm thinking of Kail and Jen and saying they have unfinished business.

Z...but what if one of them gets POV

D...well, then I put a huge target on my back.

Z...I will do whatever you want me to do.


Dick and Jessica enter so the conversation stops. Dustin offers Dick cookies since all of his were eaten during his HOH

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 2:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
On Showtime, one long part was devoted to Eric and Jessica walking round and round the yard and strategizing. They are definitely an alliance.

Key points.

They feel the other pairs need to be broken up

Dustin/Amber
Daniele/Dick
Daniele/Nick

They feel Jameka is not with them so much as she is with Amber and also that Amber, Jameka and Kail are bonding over religion, which they both think is completely inappropriate for a reality show where lying and deceit are key.

They find Kail to be very sketchy and they both feel that the wrong person went home today. They were quite insulted that after never talking with them, Kail came to each of them and put on intense pressure for their votes. Eric says if it had been a later week he'd have pushed much harder for Kail to go.

They really want Nick out. They do not want him on the jury because they think he'd never vote for them (or Eric especially thinks this)

Jessica says if she had won HOH she would have been tempted to put up one from each side.. Kail and Nick.

Eric wants to have Nick put up this week, not back doored.

They also don't feel that they will go along with voting Zach out over someone else, even if that is what Dustin wants.

Jessica says she senses Jameka moving away from her, towards Amber.

She says she and Daniele only have the young blonde bond and that isn't much.

And they seriously discussed that when the time is right (after Nick is gone) they might want to approach Jen for alliance. They see her as a good game player, smart. However they don't really want to be friends with her or hang out with her. But they see her as feeling betrayed by Kail and that she'll be losing Nick and Zack.

They don't feel close to Amber and Dustin.

Eric says he may be seen as under the radar but he feels like he is playing very much on the radar. Jessica says under the radar wasn't her plan, it may be happening for now.

This not in order, but the convo was quite serious and calm and it is a serious alliance.

ETA: They also indicated that the bath they took in the HOH tub was a cover for strategy talk between them.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Sleeping HG's on all four cams.

Watcher
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Friday, July 27, 2007 - 9:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
Kail got up, made herself some scrambled eggs, ate them and went back to bed.

Everyone still sleeping.

Watcher
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09-19-2000

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
Just a brief update on one thing I heard that wasn't posted. (didn't hear the whole thing so just summarizing)......

There was a meeting in the backyard in the early morning hours between Dustin, Amber, Dick, Daniele, Jessica, Eric, and Jameka after everyone else had gone to bed.

Much amicable discussion, pros and cons about who to put up or not put up...wanted it to be a group agreement. Everyone had their say on their feelings about it and basically also let Dustin know that they would support whoever he wanted to put up, they were just giving their input to help him make a clearer decisision. Various scenarios of pairs to put up and who they would vote for in each case were discussed. Also the possibility of backdooring someone.

When all was said and done, Dustin said he feels like he is leaning toward putting up Kail and Jen and depending on how the POV goes, they might backdoor Nick or Zach. Some felt Nick was the biggest threat, others just wanted to get rid of Zach as they can't stand him being in the house anymore.

Some argue reasons for keeping or getting rid of this one or that one, but seem happy with whoever goes...a win/win situation...take them out one at a time.

Dick stressed to Daniele not to go back and tell Nick anything. She said she wouldn't do that.

Everyone seemed agreeable with Dustin's decision.

Watcher
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09-19-2000

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
Nick is up...heads for W/C. Comes out, washes hands and heads down hallway.

~~~Blue Swirls now~~~

Ryn
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07-13-2000

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ryn a private message Print Post    
Hgs have been up for 45 minutes at least. Here is what I have heard.

Dustin currently going to nominate Kail and Jen.

Nick came in the HoH room and after Dustin went downstairs to talk to Kail Amber informed Nick that Dustin was nominating Kail and Jen with Kail being the target. If either gets POV - Zach will go out.

Nick says that they can backdoor Zach that way (ed - I don't think that is the plan - but might happen if it is Jen vs Zach).

Dustin went downstairs and talk to Kail at the counter. He isn't saying she is going up for sure, but he is implying it is a possibility. He talks about her being a 'pawn.' Kail suggests things like nominating Dick, but Dustin says he won't do that, he says the house wants her original alliance out.

That went on in circles for quite a while - then a producer came on to talk the HGs and the screens went to water.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
[before the Vortex...while Dustin and Kail talking]

Kail: Danielle is daaaaangerous!! I don't care what anybody says, those two are aligned. I have caught them so many times. They are hiding behind family fights. Those two have been watching this show since season 1...studying it. I just don't buy that they are in any kind of family fight.


Dustin asks Kail about Jen and Kail says she forced herself into their alliance (MRA) by sleeping up in the hoh room with Kail (didn't Kail also sleep in the room when Jen was hoh?)
Kail says she only talks game with Dustin and Amber and only a little but with Jen (not true, imo)

Meanwhile....

Dick mentions 'You can't always get what you want' (Rolling Stones) and Eric asks if the version with the children's choir is the original .
It would appear this was the wake up song played by BB this morning.

Dani talking to Jameka.
Asks if she noticed that Dustin was talking to Kail for a long while this morning. Says, "don't you think that's weird, especially after Dustin said Kail was putty in his hands and campaigned to save her last week?"
Jameka says it's something to log in the data bank.

Food comp has started. Feeds blocked.

Ryn
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07-13-2000

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ryn a private message Print Post    
Food comp over. So far all I know is Jen is on slop.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 1:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Dick and Amber are fighting in HOH

Dick ..In real life we wouldn't be seeing near this much of eachother, so I know you're cranky and I just want to say that I'm going to give you some space

A..It's not that. It's just that you F with me all the time. You gave me two wet willies, you...you just F with me all the time

D..well, I'm just going to let you have some space

Amber gets mad and walks out. Dick asks Dustin (who has been quiet throughtout) "what should I do with that?

Dustin tells him he can be totally annoying or very charismatic and that he should not ignore her, but just be more aware of what he is doing.

They go on to talk:

Dust...you guys have been butting heads the past three or four days at least.
I can't say exactly when it started, but...

Dick...I'm just going to avoid the situation

Dust...avoid the situation, but don't avoid HER. You're extreme. You either make up for things tenfold and talk about it ten times or you say F it and that's it. You're either one way or the other...if you found a commonplace between those two places things would run smoother for you in the house

Dick...you're probably right

Dust...b/c you can't apologize and then do the same thing. You will have an altercation with her and then talk about it numerous times.

Dick..we talked about the dog and that's my opinion. what can we do? why does she take it personal

Dust...you need to talk it out at that moment and she doesn't. She needs to think about it for a while where you want to talk about it now

Dick...you're totally right

Dustin is advising Dick that they need to come to an agreement, and that if Dick can find a balance between his two extremes it would go easier for him. Dick is listening and they are having a calm, intelligent discussion about Dick's behavior.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 1:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Dustin is trying to justify Amber's behavior to Dick and Dick is trying to get it.

Dick...Chicks, man. And when I say that, there's a reason I've been single for seven years. She says it's okay and I know it's not okay.


Dust...you need to take that at face value. If she's says it's okay it means she doesn't want to talk about it. Just accept that.

Dick says he came up to try to talk to her because she jumps on him and he wants to make it right.
They conclude that he will avoid conflict but not ignore her

They talk about Kail:
Dick..the DR says if you think you're going to come in here and not lie to people, you're wrong. But for me, the less you lie, the easier. But you do what you gotta do.

Dust..as far as nominations go, I'm gonna say: Kail, jen...the two of you have SOMETHING going on. You both fabricate. Both are threats and part of an alliance that needs to split up.

Dick...that's perfect

Dust...they're going to call me in soon

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 1:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Paraphrasing:

Amber goes to Jameka. Does her complain about Dick (you can hear it, can't you? goes something like this: well, he just, you know, he just Fs with me and you know, it's like he...I don't like this person and you know, I'm from the heart..and it's like, I don't know.....) She sobs and wrinkles her face and Jameka says Mmmmm Hmmmmm, I know, baby. It'll be allright. Then she tells Amber that this is a test for her and that she has said herself who she wants to be and what her boyfriend says about her and that she needs to rise to this challenge, says "you can do it". Amber says she LOVES Jameka and is so glad she's in the house with her.

No longer paraphrasing:
I don't want to make eye contact with..that's how I am...I don't like the fact the evel's just like wow...it's e-v-e-l...whatever, it's evel...yesterday he comes in and says what you reading...i said the bible, you know, like jameka's..your..bible....i said sentences, yesterday i read one...and it was like..it was pain...something like pain doesn't...or pain doesn't hurt or ...i read it and....he was like, what ...explain it..i read just this little things...

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Amber, Dani, Jameka and Kail are in the kitchen and they are talking about the announcer had said during the food competition that BB had a "surprise" for them tomorrow and that they needed to go to bed early.....

They are trying to decide if the surprise is a good surprise or a bad surprise!

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 2:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
BB: Dustin, please put on your microphone.

Amber: Oh my god, everytime I hear them say your name I just get so happy. You don't even understand.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 2:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Dustin and Amber discussing how Dustin should do his nominations.

D..after noms I'm gonna tell Kail that she's a pawn.

A...really?

D...yeah...because when we talked earlier she said she would go up as a pawn, said she completely trusts me.

A....I wouldn't tell her anything about her being a pawn until after POV

D...the thing is, like, she said if she wins POV she'll do whatever I want her to do. If she changes it, good. If she doesn't, good. I don't know how to personally from my standpoint strategically pin Jen down. Remember the rumor about the secret alliance? She's the only one that Joe told that to so she's the one that spread it around the house.

A...You can't say "you" thought

D...No after...say, Jen, strategically the cards are stacked against you. You two (Kail and Jen) fight it out amongst yourselves.

A...I am so good with words..I mean, you don't even understand...I'm so good in there...it's like...I can probly..I'm really good at...I can probably word it. Let me think about it. I'm good at wording.

D...Like, I base my nominations this week...
I'm getting so fat my swim trunks don't fit me anymore

A...whatever

D...WHATEVER? What do you mean?

A...Dustin, you don't even love me anymore.

They are having a spat.

Aremid
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06-27-2005

Friday, July 27, 2007 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aremid a private message Print Post    
Dustin is talking about how Jen hasn't come up to talk to him
He also tells Amber not to let Dick get to her
Amber - Jameka understands how he does...
Amber...doesn't give me any more love so what am I supposed to do
Dustin - Shut up!

Zach comes to the door and say he wants to listen to some music when he could or something like that
Dustin says sure
Zach leaves

Dustin - I think I'm going to say Jen - the drama that surrounds you on a daily - if not like hourly basis - you know the mustard thing...the situation with Nick
Amber says not to say the situation with Nick

Amber - after reviewing a few different scenarios and reviewing how things went - NO
Amber -...honestly I've reviewed a couple of different scenarios and ...for strategic reasons

Dustin - the relationship between Kail and Jen is not all it is cracked up to be and I don't want to say...I want to say the inconsistencies with the previous alliance - and something is still going on - my nominations this week are to insure that what is done is done
Amber say something about backdooring Zach
Dustin - after nomination- I'm going to to ?? a pawn...she came up to me and said...pawn...and she said after that I'd need one more vote to insure I don't go home
Amber - i wouldn't say anything to her about being a pawn
Dus- the thing is - if she wins POV she'd do whatever I want her to do - keep it the same or change it - if she keeps it the same - good, if she changes it - good...
Dus...strategically - remember about the secret alliance, she was the only one Kail told that to - so she is the one that spread this around the house (JEN)
Amber - so how would you say that
Dus - strategically - you
Amber - you can't so you though
Dus...no after...Jen strategically - the votes are there to get you out - Kail - you too - ??? for survival, but still looks like I'm splitting up a pair
Amber - ...if if fing ridiculous...I know, well,
Dustin - it is so hard
Amber - word it...
Dustin - I'm basing my nominations this week...

(Ed. Dustin really seems concerned about how he presents the reasons for his nominations - they keep saying how hard it is to put it just right)

Amber says Dustin doesn't love her anymore
Dustin - I asked you not to knock on the door - why would you think I don't love you anymore
Amber - I don't know...you didn't???
Dustin - don't think I don't love you anymore - but it is difficult being in this position
Amber - so...
Amber...I'm basing my nominations on the somehow thing with the alliance
Dustin - on the information that was exposed last week and the way certain people handled it - is the way I'm going to go...