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Loppes
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07-12-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 6:50 pm
Dustin: Kail sees specific loyalty with Amber and I and she latches on to that. Eric: You are looking at her as someone to use, and I'm looking at her as someone who can turn on us. Eric reiterates if Kail and Jen stay in the house THEY WILL BECOME ALIGNED. In Week 8, mark my words, if they stay. Dick: I want Jen out of here soon..... Dick: I completely understand that, cuz Kail is capable of convincing Jen and getting Zach and Nick on her side. My only worry with Mike is the 3 guy thing that cud become stronger. Eric: if we take Kail out this week, we agree one of the 3 guys positively leave next week. (door bell to HOH rings....Amber enters) Eric reminds everyone of the initial plan which was to get rid of Kail. Dustin tells Amber "we were talking pro and cons of Mike or Kail" Amber says neither have come to her yet, except Kail a bit. Dick: Where do these people i.e. Kail and Joe before get this thought that people should tell them who they are voting for. Jameka wonders why Kail would want to know how she is voting and yet not telling Jameka the night before that she (Kail) was gonna put her up. They talk a bit about Mike's sneakiness. Danielle enters the HOH room at 6:36pm says she walks in room and Zach and Jen kept trying to come up and Dick wudn't let them in. Dustin: Zach is more putty and if he makes threats at me, he makes them at others, like he said I'm a power player in the game. Dick to Danielle: Eric made a good point that Mike is floundering and that Kail is the real manipulator. (Eric qualifies Dicks statement). Eric: If anyone thinks she's rolled over and died, she's putting on a show cuz that's the only card she has to play. To me she did not sound like someone rolling over and dying. Danielle: I talked to Mike and his whole story was basically "I want to be in this house and rest of the time, I will be by myself". If I ever get HOH it will be not who I want but consensus of house. Jameka asks Danielle to do a "scream" to test if others downstairs look up towards HOH. (Testing for sound....lol) Eric: If Mike leaves this week, Kail could end up being here for a long long time, whereas if Kail leaves, we are guaranteed that Mike or Zach would leave next week. Dick: Kail campaigned agressively and outwardly and could do that to any one of us at any time. Eric: She sold out her own people. Danielle: Mike told her he was completely open about the "alliance". Danielle: remember when Kail was on slop, we thought it was a "show". Jameka: Has it occured that Jen coming off the block and Kail staying was a whole set up so someone else goes up and Kail could stay in the house? Danielle: Mike said if he won the POV he would have used it on Kail. Jameka: Maybe they thought 3rd person up would be Zach. ERic: Her and Jen as collective unit staying together is not good. How do we make it so we don't give one of them a free pass? Dustin: Once Kail fell from her reign her game has crumbled immensely. Here we are 2 1/2 weeks later and she's putty in our hands. Yes she is a player, but if we work as a unit we can keep her away from Jen and keep her talks with Jen to a minimum. Danielle: Kail was a finalist in season 5 and semi in season 6. There has to be something out there to her. Dick: That's what I've been saying "How the F*ck did she get on this show". Eric: she is not straightforward at all. Doesn't speak for 18 days then tries to physically threaten us. Dick: Kail is manipulator and Kail is bigger threat, I agree. Danielle: only thing it seems like open opportunity to get Mike out.
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Loppes
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07-12-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 7:19 pm
(thanks to Sunshyne for the notation of time through conversations which i'm borrowing on) Still debating in HOH on Kail vs Mike..... Amber has not said much of anything thus far. Recap: In HOH room: Danielle, Dick, Eric, Dustin, Amber and Jameka Dustin: Just cuz Mike is quiet doesn't mean he isn't lying to us. Dick: Most people withhold information except for me, and it could work either way. Dustin continues to argue to get Mike out. (He doesn't give up on pushing for Mike to leave). Dustin asks if anyone has tried to strike a deal with Kail. (no one really answers). Eric: let me see if we agree with this. Its still early and I want people or protecting sanctity of those people I care about staying here. Want to make decision which will allow for people to continue to play this game and be here together and I want to make the decision to allow us to do that in the cleanest way to protect a unit of people I care for. If Kail is a shyster...I feel like Mike staying does zero to fraction our group whereas Kail staying could foreseeably ...she's pumping people with all sorts of B.S. She's a threat, he isn't. If you all feel we are safer keeping Mike lets agree 100%. Dick: the order is important, who is likely to do the most damage in this house. Dustin: Do we see Kail going back with Jen? Yes. Do we see Mike going back with Jen? Yes. Jameka: At least Kail talks, where Mike doesn't and you will not know anything. Eric: this is where I must disagree with everyone, I don't think Kail is a mess.... Dustin: referring to Kail re POV comp. "She was shaking like an epileptic in an arcade". Eric: I'm of belief Kail would have stood there to the end. Dustin: Further competitions down the line.....who do we see as more threat competitively? Dick: In big picture we have to be really glad one of them is going. I thought I did pretty good with this thing. (self ego comment). Dick continues more to share his reasons for how he figured out to put the two of them up. Jameka: let's look at fact when Mike needs to compete, we all observed him going into an anger, enraged competitive side, while Kail breaks. I'd rather have someone who constantly needs someone to "pepper up". Eric: I think Kail is guaranteed winner if she is in final two. Dick: If she lasts that long we have to give her credit. Eric: I can't imagine a scenario where Mike would be in final 3. Dick: Who is the bigger threat. Danielle: Well Mike doesn't open his mouth to anything. Dustin: Mike cud be power player cuz we don't know what he's pumping into Kail etc in his room. Dick: Lets not forget Kail rolled over on everyone to save her a**. If on thursday everyone in this place decides say Mike is going and everyone gives her the cold shoulder, she will be a f*cking wreck. Everyone needs to do that and that will take her out of HOH. I think someone told her dead ringer that she's not going home. Her confidence has gained by leaps and bounds in a day! Jameka: it started as of yesterday. Dick: we still need to decide who is going. Eric: Idea to plant information to Zach and Jen, and Nick to see how they will be voting. Jameka says: let's see where the cards fall 7:09pm Zach gets called to DR Dick: if we come off totally united, they will know there are no cracks in this and show them we are united. Dustin: I plan to vote Mike out. I trust and believe in myself. Dick: before you finish, this is why we are talking and I've brought all info I had before everyone and everyone agreed. Before you go saying "I'm doing this...." Jameka says Mike, Amber says Mike, Daniel says "i'm on the edge, Eric 50/50 but confident in saying happy to see either of them go. Dick: Jessica also has to be involved in this.... Eric came in and told us he's giving us something to look at and we need to consider that and look at the whole picture. Dustin: well here is my plan, we have to have a 5am meeting and can't make it obvious. They will be sleeping...... Dick: Everyone knows how the house is split... Eric: One of these 2 are going home, which leaves Jen, Zach and one of them left. If one of them wins HOH who do you think they will put up and how does that affect us? Danielle: If Kail stays I think she will put Zach and Dick up. Mike said he will take consensus of house. Eric: He came to all of us said he will be loyal, say he is HOH..he will have one shot. If he stands up after and does not be loyal he is guaranteed to be evicted the following week. Dick is going out to smoke. 7:14pm Nick enters the HOH room. Nick talks about his DR session that they were talking "off the record" about all sorts of stuff. Meeting seems to be dispersing a bit..... Eric, Amber and Danielle remain in room. Feed switches to outside: Dick, Jen, Mike on patio.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 7:21 pm
7:17pm (Correction: Dick, Kail, Jessica and Mike outside - no sign of Jen) Dick pours bleach near deck to kill water accumulated bacteria. Everyone else is quiet and looks to the sky at helicopter. Dustin walks outside.
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Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 7:28 pm
(hey loppes. My time stamps are only because I've cut n pasted from screencap area. you dont need to do it here if you dont want __thx for the coverage)
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 7:31 pm
7:22pm Nick says Zach was walking around saying "they are scheming, they are scheming, I know Dick wants me on the block..." (Eric, Nick and Danielle in HOH room) Nick: Zach said someone took the chess pieces.(the 3 make jokes about Zach.) Nick jokes to Danielle that he feels really bad for her cuz Zach will come to her place of work and kill her. They get goofy and throw Dicks shorts which he wears with no underwear at each other. Nick tells Eric he's a "funny f*cker" says "I didn't know you at first. Nick tells Eric - not sure if you knew this but I was in original Mrs. Robinson alliance. (he tells Eric how he ended up in alliance). Eric: way I saw it was its a long process and I'd rather get to know everyone so when time comes to make decisions that I know people better. Nick: Day 8 or 9, the alliance was pissing me off telling me I have to get rid of Danielle and telling me not to be associated with her. I kept saying, "yeah, yeah whatever". Dick and Jessica enter the HOH room. Room people: eric, danielle, nick, dick, jessica
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 7:34 pm
7:29pm (All 4 feeds on HOH room) Zach stands outside the door. Dick walks out and Zach asks what is going on and wants to talk to Dick. Dick goes outside for smoke. Leaving - eric, jessica, nick and danielle in HOH room. Feeds switch to Dick and Zach outside in the teacup.
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Loppes
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07-12-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 7:37 pm
7:33pm All four feeds on Jessica tidying her bed. Looks like a non-meeting in HOH. She leaves her bed and walks into kitchen area where Eric is. They walk toward bedroom to talk privately.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 7:53 pm
Eric begins to inform Jessica about meeting in the HOH room. (Zach enters the room claiming he's doing laundry..Eric stops talking as they both wait for Zach to leave. Zach makes a comment how quiet it is....says: "being up there 35 minutes and nothing to say?"....(Zach definitely is wondering whats going on and still remains in the room hoping Eric will say something) Eric and Jessica sit and don't say a word, just waiting for Zach to leave, but he continues to fold and put away his laundry. Eric steps out of the room. (Note: Zach cudn't be more blatant about being nosey) Jessica gets up and says she's gonna go lay down. Kail briefly walks in the room. Jessica now in her bed, as Kail loiters and Amber wanders through. Zach enters room where Jessica is laying. Zach leaves and Jessica gets out of bed and goes back in small room to Eric. (this is too funny). Eric continues: begins referring to Kail first - he fills her in....(not gonna repeat what he said earlier..just catching Jessica up on things.) Jessica: Mike talked to me and she didn't, I'm not giving her my vote. Eric: I personally want Mike to stay. Some others want Mike to go. I don't want to cause problems but I think she's way more of a threat with her wheeling and dealing. (Nick pops in to ask where DAnielle is - he leaves) Eric: I believe you to be quite on top of whats going on and you are very important to whats going on here. Jessica: Dick told me he wanted to talk to me but if Nick was there he didn't want him to be a part of it.....I didn't care that you guys were up there. Eric goes on to continue making points about Kail's devious ways. Eric: I'd rather protect all of us where as Dustin wants Kail to stay. I think Kail will cause trouble if she stays. I don't think Mike would help or hurt us but think Kail could hurt us. I believe he gave 4 or 5 of us his word for word speech and if he deviates from it, he would be out, so he has to live with being a man of his word. I feel safer with Mike than with Kail. (then he qualifies himself by saying he's "comfortable with both of them") Eric says Danielle wouldn't go against her father's wishes. (some words I missed about Danielle/Jessica). Eric: If you want to vote Kail out I'm game. We can lie to Zach and Jen to protect ourselves. Jessica: I thought they were gonna keep Kail, and ED told me they were gonna keep Kail thinking she's going home. Eric: Jen and Zach don't know what we are doing. They think the masses are voting Kail out. So they go with the group unknowingly. Eric: People had good points in both directions. (Jessica doesn't care about being out of the loop, and she wants to vote Kail out).
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Loppes
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07-12-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 8:18 pm
7:51pm All 4 feeds remain on Eric and Jessica. Knock on door, and Nick enters the room. Danielle enters and asks Nick if she and he could chat, so Nick leaves with Danielle. Cams on SR as Nick and Danielle enter. Nick asks for hug and she says "not before you speak your mind". (He sits on counter and she stands) Nick: I just found out you are on the fence. Danielle: (frustrated) who did you hear from Amber? argggggggh (she says) Nick: I can't trust you 100% I just want to know where your head is? (Danielle interrupts). Nick: (starts getting frustated with her) Danielle: I'm taking both options and hearing them out. Nick: I'm sticking with my vote! Danielle: No matter what the house decides you will do your thing? NicK: I'm not gonna switch it for people but go for what I feel. You have audacity to put me on the spot cuz I told you I would "f*cken go before you". Danielle: you told me upstairs you can't trust me (they argue back and forth about who said what about "can't trust you") Nick: You're letting this game take too much out of you. Danielle: Don't talk to me like that, its so rude, you're not my mother. Nick: Well get rid of your pouty face and don't look up at the roof. Danielle: I'm gonna go, cuz you are being rude. Nick: You're not being disrespectful to me by looking up at the ceiling? (End of conversation Nick leaves) Nick now in with Eric and Jessica repeating what just happened between he and Danielle in SR (ed. with all due respect, I feel Danielle was being rude to Nick). Nick talks to Eric and Jessica about not liking Kail and she will be coming after him and he's not gonna vote to keep her. Eric: I think they are both similar (Eric once again covers his bases on qualifying he's "Okay with either of them leaving") Nick: Bottom line is one of them will be stuck in sequester, (he refers to Zach or Kail). If 4 vote to get Mike out..... Nick continues feeling Danielle wants Mike out. Jen enters the room. Jen: Don't care what we do, I don't want to lie to the person...... Eric: if intent of game is to reveal their games they would make us stand up with card to say who we vote for. There is reason not to disclose who you are voting for. Jen: Whatever everyone agrees to I need to vote. (Nick and Eric try convey to her that she has her own choice) Jen: All I say is I slept for 18 nights with Kail and she never told me about the alliance. Eric asks Jen if she got to know more about him when they went on the "date night". Jen: Yes, I learned that he is a good honest, true person and straight up not a bull sh*tter. Feeds switch to kitchen area. (grr) Now feeds show Nick coming up to Dick and Zach wandering closer to them. Nick: Why is your daughter so impossible??? Dick: Look at who you are asking mother f*cker..are you on drugs? (lol) Nick: She is on the fence? Dick: I think so...its all good Nick: I won't talk to you about it anymore and will vote for who I want out. Dick: We just talked, no worries, its all good. 8:06 pm Nick walks back inside house and goes to bedroom where Eric, Jen and Jessica are. Eric wants to go to hot tub but doesn't get up. Jen leaves the room Nick puts on his flowery girly shorts on. He leaves the little room. Jessica asks Eric: "anything else?" at which time Feeds switch again! to Jen in kitchen and Nick walking by. Feeds switch again. Nick is lifting weights and Zach is playing golf either by himself or someone yet unseen. (Camera room must be short of cameras or camera men,,everytime feeds switch we get 4 of the same scene). Titillating 4 feeds of Nick standing and rolling up window blinds. Now 2 views of Nick frontage, and 2 views of Nick rearage. Nick is asked to put his microphone on. (He complies) Zach seen time to time wandering around the back yard like a lost soul. Nick is thanked for putting his mic on. (Hmm now in question as to who BB thanked - cudda been Dick for something) Dick is seen in the background near the bbq. Danielle enters backyard and walks straight past Nick without a passing glance to him. Zach still being spotted with golf club wandering. 8:13pm Feeds now switch to Dustin in hammock talking to Nick. Amber is there too. Nick says he doesn't like talking to someone when their eyes are looking up at the ceiling. (he reports this to Amber and Dustin). He goes back to his weights leaving Dustin and Amber behind as we note Zach walking in vicinity of the hammock. Feeds show Danielle in kitchen and Dick in there somewhere. Jameka there too.
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Loppes
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07-12-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 8:37 pm
8:16pm (ed. - I can't help as I watch Zach wandering around the back yard in being reminded of Tony Randall? the comedian who used to wander silently onto David Letterman show....that is the best way to describe Zachs actions right now) Feeds 2 on kitchen where Danielle and Jameka make something as Dick carries some tray,,perhaps more cookies. Feds 2 on back yard. Zach talks briefly with Dustin and Amber swinging his golf club, and Dustin and Amber get up to leave. Zach to Amber: "If I have to hold anything over your a** it will be ice cream" Amber: You are ridiculous....(as she walks off, Nick approaches and she gives him a hug, but no visible sign of crying from her yet) Nick repeats to her about how he asked Danielle in SR if she's gonna be disrespectful. Amber comments on Nicks nipples and he responds they are better than Joe's. Kitchen: Danielle, Jameka, Dustin Amber enters and gives Danielle a hug. No crying yet... Zach is noted still with golf club in hand looking toward Nick lifting weights. Zach hits the ball toward Zach. Nick calls out to Dick he ain't going in for dinner and to tell the group he's gonna lift weights for an hour or so. Zach wanders over to where Dick is cleaning the BBQ in prep for dinner. Amber does Dinner Call for everyone. Nick enters briefly into kitchen and says he'll be in for a bit then go out and lift weights. Zach wanders into the kitchen, minus his golf club. Everyone gathers at the round table for dinner. Rumor has it Dinner menu is chicken bbq and spicey). Seating positions for Dinner Table: (from Dick's right..going round the table....) (8:27 pm) vortex for whistling) Dick, Jessica, Jen, ,Zach, Eric,spot where Nick would sit, Kail, Danielle, Mike,Jameka, Amber, Dustin (Amber and Jameka ask if anyone wants to say something...speech wise) Jessica: So here we are our 4th week in BB house and its been a really good time for most times. I really like all of you so.....Eat Up!. Zach leaves table at 8:33pm to parts unknown at the time of this posting.
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Loppes
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07-12-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 8:41 pm
8:35pm (As i reload my feeds) Zach is outside with Nick,,,,,he says: "Personally, I think Dick is running scared, he's running out of "get out of jail free cards" Nick is asked for the 3rd time in an hour to put his mic on. (feeds a bit choppy...gonna reload RP)
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Loppes
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07-12-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 8:55 pm
8:49pm Zach has boxing gloves and is playing tether ball. Nick continues to lift weights. Kitchen HGs finish dinner begin to wash dishes. General chitchat right now. (I'm taking a break,,,,,didn't realize I've been posting for a few hours....how time flies lol)
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Heaven45
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08-18-2006
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 9:47 pm
I don't think anyone posted on this happening. During dinner, the subject got on people and their dogs. Dick said he hates girls that go around with their dogs and call them their babies. Amber said she had a dog and a daughter and she loved them both. Dick said that he never loved a pet as much as one of his kids. Amber said that she loved her daughter and her dog. She got more and more huffy and said she didn't compare the love, and Dick said, right, they don't compare. She said love is love and she doesn't compare it. All the while getting more and more mad. Dick then went out to the patio for a smoke and Amber steamed. This went on for some time and then at some point, Dick got called to the Diary Room. Dustin yelled, "Oh, get it while it's hot!" Meaning get Dick's comments on this situation....... Some time later, Dick and Amber rehash the whole thing again and Amber is still miffed. (ed: ah, Amber, just let it gooooo) If she starts to cry, I am gonna loose it!
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