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Max
Moderator
08-12-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 2:26 pm
Now it's just cute picture time on all four cams with all the girls.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 2:59 pm
Dick gets Eric's suitcase from Store Rooon and puts it on Eric's bed. Talk in bedroom. They are speculating if Eric will just leave or have to come back for the 24 hours, pack and then leave. Amber seems to be telling the tales of what happened with Eric, says he's a psycho.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 3:02 pm
Lockdown over. Now we have four feeds of empty bathroom. Just see Dani and Dick in kitchen; she seems to have created a shorts romper with her bunny suit. Dick goes to get her ears.

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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 3:06 pm
Discussion of Dani's blog In round room bedroom, Kail tells Jen you can lie in this game all you want. Eric told Kail she would tell her everything he knows before he leaves. He said she could tell Jen everything He told Kail she and Jen would look good until the end. Kail says I might be able to pull this off. You can't be too confident in here. If I act too confident it comes across the wrong way, not like you. Jen says you have to change your outlook on everything. Kail says I'll tell you all my worries but deep down I'm trusting God with all this, whether i leave or stay. Jen says you trie do leave me alot. Kail says she'll pay Jen back someday, save her.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 3:24 pm
Amber says GD that felt good. Jen says it will be odd when the only vote is from you. Amber says and Jameka. Amber says I know he's going to go out to Julie and complain about me as a mom.. (so she plans to deal in her goodbye message) All came go out to a convo with Dick and Kail on the evils of too much sugar. Back inside, Amber is still tellig her story and Kail seems to be in there. (feeds are out of sync for sure) (ed. Amber is really ramped up) Amber says Eric was the one nervous, not me. Kail understands with kids you have to (not exactly sure what). Eric is out no, says he didn't want to leave something, out of DR anyway. Not saying much, he's in kitchen with Dani and Jen in full bunny regalia, and Amber and Kail (no ears on Kaiil) Eric asks if he could possibly be willing to speak to him upstairs when her food is ready Dani says yeah. Amber looking down at counter. Jen quiet. Dick comes inside still talking about suger, in liquor. Sounds like Dustin talking too but all we hear is a shake shake shake from Kail, maybe a protein shake. Jess is sunning outside, smiling.talking to someone, Dustin, about partying all summer anyway. She asks what Eric is doing. Dustin says packing. They tell Amber to get her suit. Jess says one argument isn't gonna ruin my sunning today, can't believe he didn't say anything. Dustin says I can believe it, he's just a paranoid Jewish boy from NY. Then says I feel bad, I do, because he's a smart player but he just took it below the belt, a soft spot. Eric says he hates the manner in which it would happen, under despicable circumstances. This to Zach, says he wants to talk to him anyway. Not about voting, just about life in the BB house (ed sounds like he plans to blow something open) Dick talking to Jameka who is in bed saying mmm hmm mmm hmm Dick telling about his experience. Don't know why Jessica is taking this so well. Jameka says don't know, she's smart. Eric asks Jen why she is smiling and she is noncommital. Eric talks about candy with Jessica. Jen not looking real happy, sitting with Eric. Dick sort of jarringly happy, talking about candy. Outside Jess doing Jedi training with Dustin, going over who won what each week.. Jess doing a cute narrative. Dustin says week six Jessica wins HOH, puts up Daniele and Dick. Dick goes home. Jessica says and Jessica gets wasted. Dustin says ok, I'm gonna quiz you on days... Kail outside with Amber wants to make sure she knows what is really going on, who is voting. Amber asks her not to take this all to Eric. Kail says no, he just only has me to talk to. Amber starts jabbering at high speed telling all to Kail. Pretty must she's the hero in all this, per Amber. LOL.. sounds like now she has it that she and Dustin came to Dick and Daniele. Kail says she is sorry for whatever Eric did to her. Amber starts telling about telling him of a lie to her boyfriend when she was on speed, bla bla bla. Says she knows what it was and Dick backs her up that Eric threatened to use it so people would see her for what she is. She says how dare you. Eric tells Jen (I think) we'll hang out later. Dani says they can go upstairs. Eric says if you don't mind I would rather it be just the two of us. They go up to HOH.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 3:45 pm
Eric says thank you for at least having the decency to speak to me because nobody else will. Not about game. I'm very personally disturbed by what is happening. I don't think it will change anything. Think it has gone to a far to personal level. I have apologized to Kail and Jen, plan on doing same to Zach, I now know how it feels (PP) I'm exactly who I was when I stepped foot in the door, done best to be genuine, myself, have real relationships. To be turned on its side is really difficult. Runaway train, I'm smart enough to see what's going on. Truth of matter will come out when you go back and watch, you've made up your mind, nobody has interst in saving me, I come to you from a good place from day one, ups and downs. I suppose because I never had a relationship with Nick was the nail in the coffin for our relationsh Not personal with you. She says take Nick out of it. Saying from day one to my dad, Eric is smart, biggest threat in this game, that is hands down a compliment, biggest threat to everyone in this game and you know it. Eric asys I do know it, I know everything about reality tv, could have reeled it in but you know who I am. Dani from my perspective not about splitting the group, division, if you blame anyone, blame me, I have my own perceptions, etc. not my dad. This, and you can take it for what it is, not personal, strategic I like you everyone likes you in the house. Eric what did I do for the target to go on my back this week? Implies that things being said are combination of true, untrue, etc OMG, he says YOU KNOW I DIDN;T CAST the VOTES! Why would I float a vote, I wanted him to leave. I didn't put mustard on Jen's pillow, I hate mustard. Dani says you have to take risks in this game and honestly it is a risk I'm willing to take. Eric says between you and me, I believe that you know that I didn't do all the things that are being said. I honestly think that knowing who I am as a person you know... You guys tried to put the final nail im my coffin last night. You guys didn't have the votes, you probably do now Dani says how is that my fault. He wants to know why this week, now I've been good to you in this game. You came after me. Dani says you said that to me, to Amber to Jen He says I have NO relationship with Jen and Kail, if she misconstued. No relationship with Jen. Says Jen said she had no alliance with me. Dani says my personal perspective. Last week what I did was the worst (and into the oft told story of Nick's eviction.... my hands hurting) Says take all of this aside, you are the biggest threat.. we saw Joe as a threat. Eric says didn't have to do this now, we could have saved the best of the best for later. I wasn't coming for you... Dani counters with and Nick wasn't coming for you. Eric (loud!) says at first he was looking like floater and then Nick sat in hot tub one day and I said not sure if I'm going to cut my hair until I get to sequester and he says, Its gonna be close, may, a couple may go ahead of you and it will be on the borderline. Dani said if he said that... but said Nick really wanted Kail and Jen out of here and he said if he turns on the TV and Kail is HOH... Eric says I was the only one saying get rid of Kail instead of Mike. He says I'm the one who stood up to say these things and never made those votes. Stood up and said get Kail out, get Nick out, a mistake, yes, but how others felt, he lists everyone, Amber, Dick, etc. If anyone denies that they are out and out liars. Dani says nobody has denied that. Eric says how is it my fault he left?? Dani I don't think the point of it was in this room (the talk), a lot less to do with it that other stuff. Eric, uh bothers me, I now what I did and what I didn't do.. plenty of reasons for people to come after me, shout, and it will have tarnished my character, not outside, but tarnish it moving forward, you know, you know, get to watch live feeds for next two months and watch myself get slaughtered every day, people won't talk to me at the wrap party, you should have come to me and told me. Daniele says I never had the numbers, couldn't let you know. What if POV wasn't used, but people were getting suspicious, getting feelings. You do understand that when people have expressed point of view A to you, I've heard Point of View B. Dani says I know. Eric last think I'm going to do is bring anyone down, people I care about (ed.. lol, but he'll go to Kail) Can't cry over spilled milk. In the process has managed to tarnish who I am to you , Jess, Jameka, your father. One person I haven't given the respect is Zach and I'm going to apologizw. Babbling about teasing people who left and when I leave you people are going to be saying despicable things about me and not true to who I am in the house. Game issues aside, I would like to think, you were one of the first people to spend time with me. Can you imagine sitting there like that and having Amber who I've protected, etc. can you imagine? It is brutal. Your dad I spent two weeks whooping it up, talking aobu tyou He's been despicable to me, never had chance to defend myself, didn't call me up here and give me five minutes. Dani calmly points out we didn't give that chance to Nick, Joe, Mike. Eric says well... you'd have taken out the best.. without dragging me through the mud Dani says she is sorry it was this way, this early. Eric I like you I WILL talk to me at the wrap party, had laughs, good times. You are one person, no matter what people say, that they will miss in the house. Eric says I don't have a captive audience with the others and I don't deserve it (that they are ignoring me) If I stay I have to play full out, If I go.. I probably showed one tenth of what I posses, I thought I was laying back, and still was perceived. Dani says people notices that you were laying back From a game standpoint so be it but I don't deserve it on a personal..
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 4:22 pm
It is being twisted.. goes on at length Hoped to build personal relationships with people. I'm the first person, maybe Joe and myself, would love to keep in touch with everyone, bonded forever but can't take the fact that I've become some piece of shit, ask my friends, family until 20 minutes ago ask anyone in the house until 20 min ago thought you would have the decency to sit down As it relates to me as a human being, don't let this happen, don't let this be my legacy, what ever you said to make it happen, don't let Amber sit here for the next two months and feel this way, don't let your dad sit her for the next two months... I've protected them. would say nothing to hurt them personally. I've been very kind in the DR, never said anything unkin.d Jamkea sent from god, love her and straight on down the line. Anything negative that was said, said in heat of moment (but all do that, he implies.) Situation now, Amber was my friend, Dustin., Jessica, who I was close to, won't look at me. I'm the only one in the house who can separate you from your dad, don't blame you for his actions. I feel that he has unneccarily set me up to take an enormous personal fall, not based on game play These things shouldn't have come up and into play may have come from you , or him. Shouldn't be a scenario where I leave the house and people are jumping up and down, high fiving. I think I'm being presented in a really unfair light. You are in charge this week. Dani says you know that I know this game has been brought to a personal level, brought people's personal life in here.. Of all people I know how you feel about that. Honestly, I will tell my dad to stop that, you and I know how it feels. He says sorry to interrrupt, heard the laundry list of what I was supposed to have done. I stood up and defended you on Thursday night, defended a friend (in HOH comp vs Jen) Says I didn't do that, I was so disgusted that I left you and Jessica up to finght our collective battle, should have been up there with you (ed I hope someone is getitng the Amber Kail convo which is still ragind in the yard on F1-F2) Says your dad's voice was defending you , so I said if no one else I had to.. Very large chance that Jen or Kail would have won, and I stood up and said those things from me being me, would have been nominated if they won. Would have been your dad and me. That hurt me most Another example of me being me, not the game. Used against me by people who should be most appreciative of it. She says she did say in DR she was very surprised and did appreciate it. He says and two days later.. Say it was the seven of us at the end and you turned to me and said Eric your days are numbered... sayonara, see ya later, you are going out, I would have been mad for five minutes and then said you are making a good choice, kudos, may the best man win. But this week, not a game thing. Daniele says for me it is a game thing, it is strategic, from my point of view. Eric, did you think that this is something that would strengthen or hurt you with others in the house. I didn't think, from my perspective that this was the right time, never quite understood, from an intellectual standpoint what you wanted from this point forward. Dani says yeah, I've been up here myself, Dustin shouting line in sand, you or the Donatos, you can take it as one thing. I was willing to do, maybe only time I'd be HOH. He says I wasn't coming for you. You didn't tell other people that. He implies whole house is lying. Daniels says you told me, down to seven and Amber and Dustin first out and you lied He said I ran down scenarios with different people that made sense to them. Being pinned for thinks I never said, never would do Truthfully, do you really think that I would attempt to do something to Amber for the purpose for ruining her life. Dani.. honestly I don't know you came to me and told me that you knew something about her thta she did to her boyfriend, that would ruin her in your back pocket. He says well you are using that to me in the same way. He says he doesn't know that he said that to you. For all I know your dad over heard my conversation with Amber in the hot tub (ed, saying it was Dick doing what Eric did) Says I told her to calm down .. if I was a Dick head I'd have gone to other people and told them what it was (ed as he did to Jess) .. It is coming at your hands, I was never given a fair chance, never got to compete in veto comp, never asked what was the truth. She says you didn't give Nick the same chance, and it affedted me and my dad and Amber. He says well I'll have to call up Nick and tell him I know how he feels. We all know I'm in deep deep trouble right now. NOt me, it will be someone else (the votes, the mistakes?) We need to go look at history, gonna keep repeating itself until they are picked off. You know, I honestly believe and this is not to discredit anyone else in the house that I came in here trying to be real. I'm a pretty obnoxious guy, sure I rubbed people ther wrong way, tried to get to know evryone in the house, left in shambles (Kail talking to , not sure. Jen and Jameka. Dustin lying on top of bikini clad amberbasically humping her thenm back to Jess and Kail, who walked over from the other women. Eric.. kept talking.. I'm not even gonna get a hug goodbye, and why, probably most friends with everyone of the 14, and it will be a parade and a celebration and dancing on my grave, chances are I'll leave. I'm gonna try to stay, Asking you as a courtesy as you've been kind enough to sit down as no one has done in dayd, that you try and discourage that behavior, don't make me sit on mey bed in tears, let me play some golf At least you are sitting here and letting me say thins, some I've never ever said an ill word aobut and those people won't look at me or talk to me, to these people and their friend, run to Amber's defence or run behind you and your dad's move, give me the common decency .. and on. I've enjoyed myself and hope you'll give me a call.. he's getting teary, can you imagine sitting here for 27 hours, Jameka and.. he's crying now, sniffling. Asked well are you giving up, rolling over and dying? But it is my character, own personal.. (Dani not looking convinced) I can see it coming, don't say a word to anyone, saying to you and only you in theis convo here, don't say a word or your father will come I hope it isn't the case and if it is I've said my case. He goes to look for kleenex, in bathroom, she says I think there is a box.. She finds it for him and he starts in again while blowing nose The way my week is going you'll go down and tell everyone Eric came up here and cried and begged and.. I sincerely hope you won't do that, I woudn't do it to you. Dani.. I wouldn't do that. I am sorry it happened this way and it sucks Eric quavers, it isn't right and at the finale people won't have the information there.. But expect two weeks later maybe 13 emails saying they are sorry. Nothing to do with the game, didn't expect to win, with the dynamic in this house People I never would have done anything to , I'm the dreck of the universe, word is garbage, I know I'm just being repetitive here, I guess that's all. Quiet for a beat or two Remember when you went up on the block and you came over, but you got off, got a tatse of it, brutal position to be in. If you don't intend to put up Kail and Jen, don't put them up, just give them a week. When you guys were upstairs and I was down and sat with Zach and Kail and said I doesn't feel good to be on this side of things, try not to alienate people, feeling like an big loser and an ass hole in your own house, easy to figure out when you are here why people roll over, or stay in bed all day. If Kail feels half of what I feel now she will be irreparably scarred, just becausee she was a friend of Mike Don't personally beat people down in the process (ed.. dude, go talk to Allison Grodner, my fingers ache) I don't think I will have an audience of my closest friends, want to express it is very disappointing the way it is left to me, I won't kick myself about the game the rest of my life but about personal ramification it had on the rest of the house. (I need a break,, posting to see if anyone else is around..) Says woo $4000 in stipends, didn't think I'd win, but would be nice to call you or Jessica, someone Ive' shared a bed with voluntarily for two weeks won't talk to me. Dani says don't talk about Jessica that way, this had been a hard week for her. Don't assume sh is going to treat you like that. He backpedals, oh no Dani says I don't see her doing that to you, and I don't think you do either. he says well today, that's why I went to the DR, Dani points out she does know the situation, hiding in bed, going to Dr. Says and everytime I go past your father.. and night after night I could have gone to bed and talke to him about you and.. the person you target this week, you don't have to tear down. I undertand there needs to be campaigning and points of view. I thanked him for cooking dinner and he shouted at me, I offered him a waffle and he shouted at me, I walked up to him in the hot tub and he shouted at me Have I ever done anyting to the two of you, never, kind and supportive and pleased that you have had the time totether and he's said a millino times I'm the one who got him through this. She says that is the person he is. They don't understand .. there are reasons we didn't talk, I'm not about to bring it out on tv. He's this way to me, it sucks. I still don't like Jen, but I did tell her I know how you feel. But I will him to stop. Eric counters.. No tricks, you know I'm done.. We know it will be 6-1 with amber Eff you.. Just let me along like Nick got to sit in the hot tub, telling again of everyone yelling, etc, DR yelling have.to.stop
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 4:31 pm
ERic still talking fast, sort of illustrating what has been said about him getting into heads. Now talking about resenting Carol, not wanting to be here Says the truth is he won't be able to watch the feeds. Downstairs Kail seems happy, talking to Amber and running to someone else.. she's just letting Amber talk. Says worst case go back to no no home,unemployed, no girlfriend Dani says I won't have a home either. Eric thought people understood at the end of the day I was who I was , nobody's perfect, I know I had my moments in this house. Thought the 98% good that is what people would take away. Amber talking to Kail about the devil and eric, eric failing tests. ERic still talking about small select group of people who mean alot to me an ddon't want to sit for two months .. person like jessica is thinking that what we talked about, our brothers, pets, she'll be thinking this is part of my master plan nmot genuine. Absolutely eery conversation with her or other people That is eating away with me. Kail leves Amber and goes inside . Losing the game is enough. Do you think I'm pst the point of no return. Daniele says I can't speak for others, you have my word, whatever happens, happens, whether it is you or Kail, make the best of it, until the live show. Eric appreciates that. It is a very wierd feeling to walk around with people you have no problem with and they have a problem with you. in your own home Dani says I have felt that way this week. Why Because blue thing (blanking) ETA: Vortex, sheesh
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 4:34 pm
Talking
Kleenex time
Eric .. more of same after return from vortex...
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 4:47 pm
Says I appreciate you sitting and listening, I needed that, I'll just sit in the hammock all week. Eric goes into bathroom/WC in hoh, leaving Dani. Kail telling Jen well guess you are out with Dustin, Amber, Dick, Daniele and .. Kail says don't know if this is ammuntion but Zach has been hanging all day and not telling me.. maybe get him up first. Jen says everyone knows that Zach always does that. Kail laughs hysterically and says I was trying to contribute, etc. Eric out of bathroom, pitifully asking Dani what am I supposed to do sit in fetal position?, have the time of my life, what do I do in this situation. is this something I can do or do I need to suck it up and sit in silenc.e Dani says a lot of people in this house, takes forever for them to process you can stay up here as long as you want to, I'd be happy to go talk to people see where they are coming from.. If you are going home this week I want you to have the best time Eric laughs and says if I'm going home, is it even possible can I have an ok day, I certainly hope so. Dani I would be happy to go talk to people, not putting you on the spott Eric. I have a question. Aside we should have related to each other this way, respect.. I think you assess situation similarly. If you go say you talked tl me. She says I wont' He says maybe he'll just chill, listen to music. If I can just GET Dustin, Jameka and Amber speak up here in private Dani says of course Eric says from a game standpoint not beneficial to you She says it is ok. you can have a vitawater, listen to music He asks that she comes back to tell him if he can talk or what (ed, ugh) Dani asks Dick to talk .. says I expressed my feelings, we all know what is gonna happen can we just not tear Eric down anymore. I know what he's done, we decided. Dick asking if he admitted anything. Dani says can we as a house just leave him so he isn't in his bed crying all day. Dick says this is for you, not anyone else, ok The way I feel is he's cause enough pain, distrust in this house, that he shoud feel some of it, not just skate out. For you, I will for him Eff off! Dani says just for me, be the bigger person for 24 hours, for everyone's sake, no WS and just comfortable. Is that what he went up to talk to you about? I'm not going to tell you, it is completely irrelevant. I know he's asking you to ask me. She says I'm just asking yuou. Zach is there now and talk goes to sponges and ovencleaner. Zach bleches.Dick with oven, Dani rinsiing stuff in sink, dishes. All of them start wretching and coughing, oven cleaner BB shows us Oven and Grill Cleaner on the counter. Zach called to exchange mic. OUtside, Kail and Jen are at least momentarily quiet.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 4:52 pm
Dani goes to Jessica and gives her spiel about 24 hours, not make it hard for Eric. Jess says ok, I'll leave him alone. Dani says but that will hurt him, and remember not everything was for strategy.. tells a tiny bit of what he said. Says don't leave on bad terms. Jess says there is other stuff I've found out that is worse. Dani says and he still won't admit to any of it. But want him to have time.. told him he was biggest thread, personal things aside. Eric looking angry/grim listening to music in HOH. Dani says I know he wants to talk to you, don't need to run up there.. told him he could chill in room
Jess and Dani say they are not made at each other, like each other. Jess says she just needed to open her eyes, more and more piles on.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 4:57 pm
Jess says I had fun with him but strategically it is time for him to go, not mad at you and not mad at Amber. Not as stupid as you think Dani says we all were! Jen comes up but Dani says still can't trust her, exchanged things, signs when she started crying, not crying over something she's made up. Jess.. did you and Eric have a good chat.. Dani his whole thing is it has been brought to a personal level.. and that sucks. Personal things come into it and he's one of them. Thought he would own up says Jess. Dani says I thought he would, too but he didn't. He just said I don't remember saying thta, or that person coudl have overheard.. no I remember you comeing up and saying that. Don't need another awkward night, plenty to come. Jess groans. Jess, gues I'll go talk to him, earlier wasn't touching that one (ed with ambera/) He's upstairs if you want to talk to him Jess puts on shorts and top over bikini bottom.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 5:06 pm
Jess goes upstairs, Dani asks Jen why Kail looks so depressed. Jen says Kail thinks she can't look happy. Zach and Dani laugh. upstairs.. Jen says you just raised an interesting thing. Kail.. after this week I'm stuck with her no matter what. Amber and dick talk of Eric being out of control on message boards, angry Going to Jess and Eric. He's talking about her getting close, talking about family Every single thing I've said to you is true, genuine, from the bottom of my heart, Don't care what anyone said or will say. To me, maybe not to you, every momemet that we shared, me being me, the way I walked in the way I'll be when I see you again. Crushes me. and this is similar to the stuff with Dani personal character destroyed but now he says cares what she thinks, not others. Never ever ever repeated anything you said, insulted you, done anything that wasn't how it felt, felt good to you , to me, came from that pla He's sniffling.. same words with dani, complete lies, etc.
Why did you tell Amber that I was extremely jealous, that you said I was jealous of your relationship. He does the hesitate then say I don't think I said that and if I said that I was joking thing Jess not buying it. He says what we've said all week that we wouldn't let happen that we wouldn't let him control the game. He's claiming that's what I was doing to her, but he's doing to me You know I told you wnat it was and you know there was no way in hell I wasn't going to tell anyone about it Maybe it was stupid to say it to you Why Maybe that was betraying her trust. She says you said it that you could use it to lot of people But I didn't tell them what. Obviously stupid thing to say Jess. Yeah
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 5:09 pm
He talks .. talk personal or game She if badgered to admit he has her vote! Wants to know if he can stauy Then launches into bashing Amber, now Kail, Says Kail and Jameka can't win hoh. The six of you aren't gonna be best buddies again, Dustin trying to control the game They are trying to control the game, they are lying, even the five hour list of what I've done, some true, most false, I know some are false, specifically brought points and I did not do it. Jess is mm hmming. My word is garbage here, hope it isn't garbage to you, never did anything to sell you out...
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 5:27 pm
He says I will never win, Dick and Daniele, Zach or Kail Down to the rest of you I would protect you, not a game thing, a personal thing. I am guessing that in the weeks I've been her, forgotten i've said.. came back Jess says forgotten you said? '==\Downstairs Daniele is talking to Zach, Jen and Dustin and saying Eric is not fighting to stay !!!) (ed while upstairs he's fighting to stay) And with feeds out of sync, Dani in kitchen at same time she's telling same stuff to Jameka now. Jameka says you've been up there for awhile. Yeah Says Jess is up there now. Jameka says she apprciates this. Eric doing the story of how he was already booking tickets to visit Kail and now (with Dani he said Amber) Going on about his legacy 99% of time nothing but good and decent Jen appears to be spaced out Eric says I'm not looking at you because I'm choked up and you don't like wussy boys. He says no chance I have Jameka's and Dustin's votes She says Jameka won't break her word, can't speak for Dustin. He says you all hate me. Jess says she doesn't hate him.. but.. I know she went off on you awkward position. I'm not gonna be rude to you, not that person. Amber's mad, still voting for you to stay, not going against her word Eric gets hopeful, three voptes, so maybe Says they called him out in DR, don't roll over. 99.9% of what they say is lie.s He says I didn't cast the effing votes! She says you didn't Says you dicn't?? He asys don't tell ANYONE.. Daniele said you are the best player. (ed after asking Daniele not to tell about convo he's now telling.) Jess says she told me she told you it was stratigic reasons. She says the Amber thing, that wasn't her. He says but they brought it to her, Amber, shouldn't use things about people I suppose that multiple people have said he said that to me too. I feel like Dick is doing what he accuses me of doing. Amber and Dustin talking in bedroom. Erio bashing Amber to Jess Dustin is asking Amber what she was talking about to ?? She asks if he and Eric were in an alliance. Dustin I know it is insensitive of me but after this week he needs to go (Dick) Amber says he is Amber says and Jess needs to vote him out. says Jameka told Jess no need. She says Eric will talk to Zach and just in case. Amber says something is bothering you. Dustin says Daniele won't ever look at me the same way again. Amber says you are safe if Dick gets HOH, and he might get it. You know I have your back, if they put you up I'll get POV and take you off. Dustin says I mad lots of bad choices this week, Don't trust the Donatos, way I treated Daniele, ok to have opinions way too mean, hasty to tell her. And the POV ones, sucked for me, striking out. And what the hell was with you last night?? saing Kail knew she was safe last week. Amber says they already knew from Kail or Jen that you said she was safe. and told her she was a pawn. Back to Eric.. do you think I'm a total sack of shit? Jess NO.. but I do question you... Question me from a game standpoint, but not personal he says. Jess says I don't give a crap what people thing personally. Eric wants her to like him.. She says I don't trust Jen either, but will see what you said, won't know til then I won't visit people I don't like He says well there was the night we talked and she was awake. Jess says she told me. ERic says I was speaking highly of you Back to Amber and Dustin, they are arguing a bit.. Dustin says told to him his whole life cuz I am a b!!tcb She says she told Daniele, his whole life he's talked that way I have a chip on my shoulder about Daniele, her whole attitude has been negative. Amber says NO that isn't true He says look at the way she acts to evreybody else, too Amber says don't make it awkward between you and her He starts bashing Daniele now Back to Eric. He's still schmoozing. She says best relationship in house with him but doesn't know if it is true, he says it is.. And back on the train of words..
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 5:31 pm
Eric starts listing all the things Jess thinks about others.. and says I could go down and tell people (ed.. lol threat again) but I would never do that. I could do things to Jen She says why didn't you Not important this week he says and calls Jen a effing crazed , will go back to that , fighting for my own safety. Here we are in this scenario, mibht need Jen's vote. She says that's true. He losed train of thought Votes. I'm going to be sitting in position to give you $500,000 (ed essientially he's telling her keep me, I'll never win but be a vote for you on the jury) She says things change week to week. Eric says you've spoken to Jameka. Says she said in front of other people she gave her word, will vote for me Says is she disgusted Yes she is, and disgusted at the way Amber approached it, too Says Dick put your suitcase on your bed, too He says that is thoughtful Says if you are going to wait for everyone to come up to you here it isn't going to work He goes into what he said to Daniele..
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 5:52 pm
Jess asks what Daniele said.. sorry? He says she looks at it as if he is 100% leaving, says she thinks he's a cool guy, get drink at wrap party, strategic smart, sometime why not now, haven't shown what you are capable, of didn't compete in vetos (ed she did not say most of that that, he did) So you think Dustin will be willing to talk to me. she says don't see why not He's close to amber. Kind of wierd you are close to Dustin and Jameka, to a certain degree, I was one of the people unifying that group of people, know you aren't particularly close to Amber, not excited about Dick and Daniele, don't know where this leaves you. I want to be here, want to be with you, any merit to the two of us, or you or me, to have a conversation with Zach, Tell him we are on the outs, know yuou are on the outs rational guy dustin comes in and aske if he's ok wants to talek to him Jess tries to leave but he keep her. Tells what they should say to Zach about Kail She says let me tell you but Zach is completely brainwashed by them. Will you hate yourself if it doesn't work He says will he repeat everything to them She says well then try. Back to being blamed for things, friends won't look at me. She is sounding friendlier. I know I must have been annoying you, being needy, irritating, yesterday, apologizes. She says that is ok, but I was tired. He wants to know who was high fiving, etc. Dick said that Jess claims not to know, wasn't me (she wasn't there for the big celebration) You can be honest, do I have any chance can I pull this off at all Jess. I don't know. Can I appeal to Dustin should I come to him personal or game She says I don't know Anything you think you can do in speaking to anyone, but don't want to put your neck on the line, better off with ne here She says are you going to talk to Jen, would she vote against Kail No Waste of breath then He wants to tell Jen not to let Dick control the game, I'm after him 100% takes the heat off of you, what am ai supposed to say, you hate Kail, Kail sold you out, you are afraid if another guy goes home (he's morphed into his talk with Zach, offer him a deal personally guarantee you three weeks if I win HOH , won't put you up Can I include you in that, if you win HOH, he won't go up? She says yeah, I don't care.\ Amber and Jameka talking about he goes on power trips (not sure who Dick? Now talking about Bible, Amber read something, afraid of death, afraid of life. Says Eric said he was afraid of death. Back upstairs they are still going. All here to step on some tails. these are our real lives, meet people hit it off with them real bonds, etc. Jess says yes. He says if I stay, I might go up and all but I get to play veto He says he is being sandbagged this week (his def of that is totally different than the one I know, meaning you play dumb to fool people) NOw working on how loyal and honest he was to Dustin, fracturing group etc. He's pulling the group fragmenting (Dick) If I was such a great manipulator I wouldn't be in this situation.. don't let him get away with it go with me, havne't done anything against you. Is it possible that every thing done in this house done for game for a reason where I things for a personal reason concerned Jess says at least Eric had a memorable five weeks. He wonders what his popularity was. She asks if he cares. Oh no.. Tough game she says. Amber talking fast to Jameka. not sure. Eric apologizing for last night says not being greedy or annoying Jameka may be going to talk to Eric. Amber doesn't want to talk to him. Jameka says I can tell him something if we are alone. Amber says he broke my heart. Back to Eric, says should be based on what I'm capable of, didn't take school as seriously as I should of, didn't take internships, went to work for my high school, theatre, easy, open to me I did it, for a year or two, not working fulltime, still partying GF and I opened a small small small theatre company lost money. From there, no good Jameka is coming up stairs now He says 24-5 did an internship Eric yells come in Jameka asks if she can interrupt, This will be 5 min, you can stay Want to give you opportunity to tell you how youfeel LOL.. Jess flees!! Eric wants to keep talking Jameka just wants to give hm opportunityu Eric starts about being piled with shit this wee, brutal, no human being could survivor Goes into the every moment we have spend was real genunine moment from my heart I am who I am can be obnoxious. etc. Jameka says mmm hmm Eric says he saw the looks in the first days But I'm sweet, endearing and genuine, hope to continue inside or outside Said not one ill word.etc.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 6:05 pm
same stuff.. Downstairs Jess is talking to Amber saying he isn't as bad a person as people say, says he denies vote, etc. She didn't ask about him telling someone to put his key first. Jess pleading his case with Amber Eric pleading with Jameka. He is using the same words with person after pesron.. Jess is crying says he is right ,she said horrible things about people. He's briging up how wonderful he was going against Jen for Dani and see how Daniele thanked him. Amber says to Jess he's trying to stay.. She says yeah and she told him he still has her vote. Jameka says she loves him.. says I have lost 5 hohs.. I don't know if the eric I know is the one who would put me out and Jess because Dani and ED are the perfect ones to be sitting next. And I told you too early that I would vote to keep you. It was my decision, I'm aware, people told me no, stop. I blurted.. I love you felt like you are worth it, have I screwed myself in the game. Eric claiming he knew what his fate would be and didn't want Jameka to give up any money, moved Only four people can win, and one isn't me,, he says. No one better than Jameka to stand by me He's pushing Jameka hard. Jess tells Amber shs'll be ok tomorrow. Jess thanks Amber for talking. Eric says he was hoping it would be Jameka and Jessica at the end (ed. and he told Jess he'd be her vote) Oh.. Survivor.. telling about Colby and how he chose Tina over the other guy.. And he came in with attitude that 13 strangers, gonna win.. and then.. day two happens (ed.. he's taken Nick's goodbye speech and is embellishing it nicely).. I was saying to Jess, and same goes for you, I do not ever want to be sitting agains tone fo them in the end never ever forgive myself if Zach or Dick or Jen.. I'm going to lose the vote, would much rather you win than any of them, can help crown a rightful and deserving winner, than someone who doesn't want to be here. Downstairs Dustin sits with the three bunnies. Amber and Dick also in kitchen. No one knows what time we spent, others can calculate every move they say but with me I played the game very little, got sidebarred, just living here, thought I didn't have to play, taking things for granted.
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Aremid
Member
06-27-2005
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 6:06 pm
Jameka came in and interrupted Jessica and Eric - giving Eric a chance to talk to her He says he hasn't said anything bad about her Eric says regardless of what has been said that is true or not true - regardless of what comes out - the sad fact of the matter is - they are wrong - he knows what he has done and hasn't done and nobody else knows what he has and hasn't done - but it didn't come from him - it is practically impossible to bounce back from and basically he is getting the impression that it was a strategic move and it was a means to an end to get him out of the house because he did not do this thing - he is sure he did some of the things he did but he is equally certain that a high percentage he did not do - he knows what votes he cast - he knows he didn't put the mustard on - it is what it is - simply not true and he is sad to see that what they have been discussing all week is going to happen - that Dick is the master manipulator - he is calling the shots - he is setting him up - he is a bad guy and he is going to control it for along time if they allow it to control it - He(Eric) is not the patron saint of the house but he has looked out for people in the house including him(Dick) and his daughter - he couldn't take it anymore with Jen's comments (at the HOH comp) and he knew Daniele was not in a position to defend himself and if noone else was going to do it - he was and instead of a thank you - whether he stays or go - he doesn't deserve for this to be his legacy and that he is sure Jameka understands that - that he has made mistakes but Jameka knows him Jameka - I don't know - eric - that is the thing - I actually love you and I'm on the side lines and I'm fighting - and I have 5 HOHs -and I don't know if the Eric I see now...the person next to the end is going to be sitting next to Daniele and ED Jameka - I gave you my word asking nothing in return - do my best to keep the nominations the same - in the possibility that you went up...I would not even have an opportunity for HOH until there were four people left - FOUR - and ...people telling me no - stop - ...and i'm fighting ...I can only take it one week at a time...but that was definitely genuine Eric - I was nearly in tears because of what you were doing for me - I did not want you to give up your money...because you have a chance to win...mostly near tears because of what you were saying...went to DR and told them I love you...as a friend - noone better I could have to stand along side me no matter what I'm trying to do whether in the real world or trying to play a game...I've been ?? about you for weeks now...I've been gushing about you - every week with the stupid mobile phone - every single time - there will be documents and proofs that exhibit these things whether I go home tomorrow or I'm here for weeks - I care about you deeply ...we didn't do a storage room handshake, but I was hoping it would be me and Jessica at the end... He tells her the story about Cory and Tina in one of the Survivors...and how Cory made a mistake... Eric - and then day two...we are not characters we are real people on a tv show... Eric tells her that he would never want to be sitting next to one of "them" at the end (Zach, Jen were included) He'd much rather a rightful and deserving winner that he cares about (ED - that is all I can stand right now LOL)
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 6:18 pm
Downstairs talking about food the first nights.. Jessica tells lDustin Eric is such a good talker. Dustin will be sad to see him go. Ambersays he asked five times about my vote. I feel bgad for you. Dustin leaves and so does Amber. Jess changing from bikini to underwear during convo. back to kitchen Amber and Zach in storeroom.. Zach mentions Amber going off on him. says he said things not true aobut me too, Eff him. She starts on the story of her boyfriend, telling him Jameka says you have my vote, won't go back on my workd No control of others if you stay. I would have a hard time trusting you from this point forward. He knows but will fight for his reputation that other people have wrongfully tarnished. Aspects my doing but.. Amber telling Jess it was freaky what Eric did last night. Jess just saying yeah . Amber says if he stayed, Eric would really be leaching onto Jess. Zach seems happy, says she is stuck with him. Says he'll still drink with her. ERic still going on about wouldn't compromise Amber's personal life in the game, sure she doesn't want to speak to me. Difference between things and other things that are said. I don't know why I would have said this He says others probably provoked me into saying that, something stupdi, never would have done (ed. what chutzpah) I'm sure she'll be going after me, I won't be going after Amber, was planning my visit to Vegas. Dick did what he was accusing me of, saying what I would have done to her, but he did it to me and I wouldn't What do I have to do to build bad faith and trust, my chances of winning aren't very good. You fought for me in the veto comp, heart on the line, I felt it, sincerely, you put yourself in the situtation for fight for me and you know I will fight ever HOH to win back confidence that I think I deserven but have somewhat damaged. I've gotten closer to Dustin She says it isn't that. To me it is the Nick situation, he was not mad and one other thing, nothing directed to me I would be willing to see you outside the house but collectively it is damaged, the group. I believe our conversations were ok but the group, a big block was there. He says last week it was Nick this week me, THEY are looking to lay blame.. this week he couldn't do wrong, where was that last week OH I told Them he had two votes, he would have stayd, Dick Daniele and Amber, They keep saying they will keep making the same mistakes, (Eric leaving) Would I go after Diok and Daniele now, yes, they struck first. Scapegoating, framing it so I look like an ass hole. Someone else every week except carol Old hat, find someone blame everything in the house on them.. I perceived Nick as being angry when you eliminated him, what I believed to be true. (ed. I have had it. I'm done with this.)
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 6:20 pm
Bless you, Aremid!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 6:21 pm
hmm well guess not Eric is claiming that he asked for pictures of Jameka's family if he won HOH, etc. Says Amber is an enemy, Dick is an enemy Gunning for Dick, Jen, Kail, Daniele wants her to win in the end.
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Aremid
Member
06-27-2005
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 7:06 pm
(Seamonkey this is for you LOL! - believe me I appreciate your sacrifice for us all too!) Eric is now in the hammock with Dustin Eric - would I have actually done that - no ...the guy that you love back home - hate for you to jepordize that - something special to go back too - in the middle of some 3 am ranting and raving - joking or serious - provoked into it or not - whatever the case would be - I don't have any motivation or justification for what... ...the only thing is - (Having to switch cams from quad) Eric - I've been honest to her, she's been honest to me - ...if she were not here, and ah, I - you know - obviously - everyone said to me...what have you in this house - I ...can't begin to tell you what was ?? at the time...but I certainly never said it to anyone - never said it to the DR...zip the lips and throw away the key...relationship with her -probably beyond repair which is a sad and grave loss for me - ...speaking to me - know it is not going to be now - sad, one thing piled up on top of accusations...he was armed with this...and he ah - you know - ...but he was armed with this - in his backpocked and you know ah - he used it against me - suggested I was going to use it against her... ERic - ...if I stay the agenda is still the same, they'll try to claim it was me all along- total sh-t Dustin - total - sh-t
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Aremid
Member
06-27-2005
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 7:23 pm
(Phone call interruption) Eric - I'm stronger than I have been this week by a mile - I do have fight left in me -thought about just rolling over and dying Dustin - what is the point in that Eric - there is no point...I spoke to Daniele said I didn't think it should be personal...we've had great conversations...not going to get into but you know - expressed the fact that it is unnecessary to absolutly unnecessary to f'ing ruin somebody's reputation...she said she is sorry it got to that level... Dustin - I don't buy the fact that...she is playing the game ??? Eric - 100 percent out the door...she is going to give it to me...you know - Dustin - she is unbelieveable, she is absolutely unbelieveable Eric - so , I know that - the most incredible thing depending on how you want to look at it that I still think that I have the ...votes...Jessica is having a tough time, but she understands...I don't know what she thinks about me personally, but she knows that I'm in here for her and want her to do well in the game and I'm on a mission to prove that and the sad thing is that I may well not be here tomorrow Dustin - you have never done anything to tarnish my game play or my character and your presence in this house for me has been so great - closest in the house - so far - and there is no reason for me to alter my way of thinking at this point Eric - I know Amber is a close friend of yours and of mine (loud plane)...means a whole lot to me that you said that...DR sessions - nothing ever...I haven't - nothing to gain by doing that BB - HGs the lockdown is over Eric - vehicle to earn Amber's trust back but I will still support her if she won't support me - I can only imagine the awkwardness that ?? will bring to the group for a couple of days but as we know it is a very fickle house...destroyed Jen's property and in the next 12 hours they were the best of friends...be rebuilt when ??? did you know last night that that is what they brought to me or was that this morning Dustin - this morning - when it was brought to me Eric - Jemka said the same thing you said - I had never done anything to wrong her - ...to betray her - to hang her up to dry...
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Aremid
Member
06-27-2005
| Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 7:32 pm
Dustin - I don't see why that should change moving forward Eric ...I appreciate that and the feeling is quiet mutual...I know the show pretty well...seems like I have the tools to go in and succeed at what I'm trying to do Dustin - no one ever does...13 people walk in here, never think about who or what or how people will react ...that is what has gotten most people in the game in trouble...you just never know what to expect Eric - if I am fortunate enough to stay...play hard ...nothing left for me to do (loud plane) ...disappointing and sour note...you know there is nothing left for me to do but come out with guns a blazing and try to help the people I care about - let's face the facts...I'm not going to win the game...but I'd love to have the chance, I'd love to be here, share the experience...could have voluntarily evicted myself who the F cares it is 4,000 dollars, be my rent for 2 months, ...cooler heads prevail...I have taken the time to build relationships that allow these conversations...people looking at me like I'm a f'ing leper - ...and I've made a mistake in how I treated Kail and Jen at times, how I treated Zach at times, and now I get it Dustin - ...In Dr said I wish I could have dinner with everyone tonight and say everyone has made mistakes...I don't think everybody should treat anyone differently because of it...Kail you have made mistakes, Dick you have made mistakes... Eric - you will notice I have said until I'm blue in the face I did not do those votes, I did not do the mustard...I've owned up to everything I've done (ON that statement I'm done for the evening)
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