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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 8:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
Say Daniele is smart.

Jameka says that letter was coded definitely. Definitely. A message to Zach? Right.

Amber says her mom told her she knew Amber was going to win.

She knows she is going to win the POV. Dick was talking about Janelle today like how she never won anything til midway then started winning all those POV's.

Amber says she hasn't ever won anything. Thinks she is going to win that POV.

Says something about Daniele bringing it to a personal level is bullsh*t.

She guarantees that Dick, Daniele & Eric manipulated Jessica and told her...do you want to be sitting at the end next to Jameka or Amber?

Jameka guarantees that someone said those 3 (Dustin, Amber & Jameka) are up to something. And look who were the only 2 that voted for Dustin to stay and now look who are the 2 that are up now. (missing some)

....continued speculation and theories.

(taking a break...will post for posters)

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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 8:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
Amber can't believe they are both on the block. Says it will just make them stronger. She's going to get HOH next week.

All other HGs have been inside eating at dining table.

~~~vortex~~~

Eric washing dishes now and Jessica drying and chitchatting as they work about life on the outside.

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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
(back to cam 2 and hammock)

Amber telling Jameka about a dream she had that was so real and she was talking with her mom on the phone.

She thinks she might win a phone call from home.

Jameka talking about having hard time sleeping after that little man came into the house. She came outside that night...starts talking about a dream she had that involved fire and I think somehow Dick was in the dream, but I missed it.

Amber says Dick is all about winning. He's competitive. Daniele would love to be next to her Dad or someone that people hate.

Repeats they are taking themselves to the final 4. Amber says a girl is going to win this year.

Jameka trying to figure out when she will be able to play for HOH. Thinks it will be when it is down to only 4 people. Sighs.

Says if you think of 4 and we plan to be 2 of those 4. Amber will win HOH the next week after Jameka and pick her to take to the finals.

They try to figure it all out then get confused.

Jameka says it really could be that they are up because Daniele wants to backdoor Eric. It could be.

Loud plane breaks the quietness of the backyard.

~~Vortex~~~

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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 9:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
Amber says it's so weird how Dustin is gone now. She had been so stressed out thinking if it was her and Dustin and Jameka at the end, who she would pick to take to the end. She knew what she would have to do but would have been so hard, it made her sick.

Jameka says it's like God has taken you out of that situation now. Amber shakes head in agreement.

Can't believe they are on slop now.

Amber talking about Daniele's birthday. Says she will probably get another letter and she will then have 3 letters. She got one from her grandmother and one from Nick already.

Jameka says how crazy that she didn't get one from her boyfriend. Wonders if he is still there for her.

Amber says Dude, she got a letter from Nick.

Jameka wonders if BB asked Daniele's boyfriend to write her a letter and he wouldn't so they just said well, we'll let Nick send her a letter. (PP)

Amber says Daniele and Nick will end up together. She thinks it's Kharma. Just like her boyfriend left her girlfriend for her. Now she's leaving her boyfriend for Nick.

Says and they might just end up together forever. Like Nick's girlfriend ended up cheating on him, too.

Jameka gives her an mmmhmm.

~~~Vortex~~~

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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 9:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
Jameka says I'm sorry I'm a threat because I'm nice to people. Why not because I'm good at the game. Are you kidding me?

Thinking about how bad their families will feel when they see the show on Sunday and they'll be saying Oh Nooooo! when they see they have been nominated.

Just to say....both seem calm as they talk together on hammock. Amber again says things happen for a reason, smiles at Jameka. Eyes do not show any signs of tears or puffiness.

There is even laughter now as they remember Zach in his little bunny suit and how he is getting ballsy in the game now.

Jameka says Zach thinks he's got it going on girl. She is over him.

Amber called into DR. Gets up and heads inside.

Jameka says good luck, I'll miss you. Amber says yeah. Jameka says I'm serious.

Zach comes out and heads over to sit in hammock with Jameka.

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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 9:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
9:05pm

All four feeds are on Jameka and Zach who are enjoying the BY hammock and having a conversation about the clear night sky. Amber approaches. Jameka seems to think BB may do the POV comp tonight. Two cams switch to show Jessica in a braw putting a fuschia colored top on.

Jameka goes somewhere and Amber takes her spot on the hammock, seeming in a much better mood.

Zach: I told Jameka I can't offer her anything cause I don't know how I feel.
Amber: I understand.
Zach: I saw Dustin left you a stuffed animal.
Amber: Yes, I went to give it to him and he told me I can keep it. I also have his Snapple bottle with the "D" on it. Thats my boy.
Zach: Now you get to see what you're made of tomorrow.
Amber: Yes I'm excited.
Zach: Maybe even win a trip to Barbados or even win the POV.
Amber: I believe everything happens for a reason.

Inside the house Jess meets up with Jameka and gives her a hug. Jess then walks outside to the hottub where Eric is.

Zach to Amber: Its not over, maybe this is what you needed to snap you back.
Amber: Yes, I'm done crying.
Zach: This is the chance you can prove to Dustin that you didn't need him.

Vortex (brief)

Zach: This is your chance to show what you are really made of, and even though Dustin will watch it he won't be here, and you won't have any of his or Nick's influence. This is your chance.
Amber: Yeah

(VORTEX again)

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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 9:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
As Zach and Jameka discuss clear nights, stars and wishing they could see them and how nice it is out here.

Zach says table is smaller now and less people.

Speculation on the POV. Jameka is thankful she will get to fight for it.

Zach says she might even have a chance to compete for something cool so that would be good.

~~~one of many Vortexes interspersed between the conversations tonight~~~

Zach says the way he looks at it is if he doesn't get to stay, he will get to go and lay on the beach and enjoy the rest of the summer.

(checking other cams)

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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 9:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
9:12pm
Vortex off BB saying Don't talk about your DR sessions please!

Zach: After you got the moment for your daughter, she'll be watching. This is exciting. Even in the worst situations where one is an underdog and loses sometimes it gives a person a better insight into themselves.
(Zach asks Amber about her playing basketball in school) He adds he played in his church league and with his company.

Amber: Yes, and I ran track
Zach: I played basketball on myh company's league and first two games I was running out of breath, couldn't run back and forth on the court at first, but now its easy. I always practice the half court shots for fear they may call me.
Before I came here I made 3 out of 4 shots.
Amber: That's cool

Amber and Zach look toward Jess and Eric who are noisy in the hottub.

Zach: I look at it this way, if things don't work out, you're stuck at a nice resort with Dustin, that would be nice.
Amber: If its my time to go, I'm good with it. I'm not giving up. I think God has everything worked out already.
Zach: yes, me too.
Zach: Look what you (meaning a person)get if it doesn't work out, resort, plenty to eat, beach...
Amber: Yeah, I know, I'm fine.
Zach: For you living in Vegas I understand, but for me, I think Beach! yeah.
(Zach talks about loving the beach and getting tanned dark during the summer).
Amber: What are you again?
Zach: Polish and Czech
Amber: I see German in you.
Zach: Maybe its German and Czech, have to ask my mom. My dad is Polish, Mom is german, czech.

Zach talks about a female friend who's dad played for Paul Anka. They go to a party after some benefit, and there are all sorts of things for benefit to bid on. There is a bar and her dad asks if we want to go get a drink. At the time she was 19 and I was 27. I say, "Yeah", the dad says "I'll have a vodka on the rocks with a squirt of lime" his daughter says "I'll have a beam and coke", dad says she can't have that.
Her dad gives her this look, (Zach thinks the story is funny). The dad asks his daughter, thinking she was dating a guy her age.

Amber listens to the story.

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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 9:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watcher a private message Print Post    
Cams 3 & 4 on hot tub area.

Eric is in the hot tub and Jessica is sitting on the side trying to teach Eric the Kansas way of talking. Eric gives it a try and laughter ensues. Now demonstrates a NY accent.

Dick is sitting on patio nearby I presume. I can hear his voice and also Jen's.

Brief talk about how few people around now.

Jen and Jessica recount the story of Eric's last streak last night in the bedroom and more laughter.

General chitchat.

(sorry I have to go for now...nice to see you Loppes)

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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 9:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
9:22pm

The cam zooms out to show Dick doing a cannonball into the swimming pool.

They all chuckle.

BB: DICK STOP THAT!

Dick goes to the pool edge then falls in backward.

Zach gets up from the hammock and wanders through the yard kicking a ball. The cam zooms in on Amber who is suddenly joined by Jameka.

Amber: Have you and Jessica talked at all?
Jameka: No....everybody was "hmmm" last night.
Amber: You should hear the encouraging talks Zach gives me, so I don't give up, etc.
Jameka: He said that to me too by the way.
Amber: pauses and says, I told him if its my time its my time. He said I should fight my heart out tomorrow and stick it out. Everyone, if there plan is to get me out this week, he said, you could lay on a beach with Dustin. I already thought about that.

BB: Amber please go to the DR

Vortex briefly.

Amber gets up and leaves Jameka by herself in the hammock.

(Switching to Quads)
Eric, Dick and Zach are all in the swimming pool.
Jameka lulls in the hammock.
Jessica and Jen sit at the patio watching them.
Eric banters back and forth with them saying something Ericish.

The guys toss a ball around while in the pool.

Eric: Zach you know these things, What is the capital of Thailand?
Answer: Bangkok (but the last part meaning something else)

Jen: (one of the guys sees Jen wave but she explains she was swatting at a fly).

(general light banter between the BY folks)

Jen: Carol told me that Jessica will get really jealous and try get her out. (she says this to Jess).
Jessica: Oh yeah.
Jen: (talks about something re going to high school) she again keeps bringing Carol up. Now you guys don't like each other?
Jessica: I probably wouldn't see her ever again.
The guys remind me of little kids at the pool when I used to be a lifeguard (referring to E/D/Z)
Eric's voice is heard somewhere in the background from the pool.

Jen brings up the comp again. She and Jess chit chat rehash it a bit.

Vortex

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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 9:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
9:36pm

Still Vortex

Dick calls out to Jen and asks: "I have a good shot at getting a piece of a** in this house right?"
Eric pipes up and says, "I told you from day 1 I'm the Casanova in this house".
Someone jokes and says Jessica is engaged (meaning to Eric)

Dick crawls out of the pool.
Jessica whispers something to Jen about Dick's comment and him being weird.

(Feeds abit sluggish tonight).

Returning Eric banters nothing about something still.

Eric and Zach still remain in the swimming pool, with Jess and Jen watching them from the couches.
Dick keeps throwing a ball toward them. Now Zach gets out of the pool.

Jess and Jen see Jameka by herself and Jess says she's gonna go talk to her. She gets up, leaves Jen and goes toward Jameka.

Jess joins Jam in the hammock and asks how its going.
Jameka: As good as it can be.
(trying to switch to cam 1 to hear their conversation my reload is slow.....)
....
Jameka: in whole scheme of things it doesn't matter. I said I would talk to Eric about the Dustin thing but I don't know if I want to. I mean does it matter?
Jessica: Yeah I think it does, but maybe you just want to move on. (jess comments on how the guys are "so mean to her" meaning Jen).
Jameka: The comments and everything seem to be so ridiculously staged. I don't buy it. (She refers to Jen). Especially her giving up the money. I think she's just not that person to stand up for herself. Don't you get to a point where enough is enough. (Jam refers to how Jen takes all the b.s. from the guys).
Danielle told me she here for me if I need to talk. I know its cuz of you I should rethink it.
I wasn't surprised that she put me up. We'll see what happens. I don't buy the "threat" thing. (It seems Jam is referring to what Dani said when she put her up). It's "whatever". If I get Houseguest choice do you want me to pick you?
Jessica: I'm totally cool with that. Definitely.
Jameka: Well at least I know what it feels like to be on the block.

BB: Jameka please center your microphone.

Jameka: I just don't want to ruin any chances Jess, if you don't want me to pick you thats fine.
Jessica: (reassures her its fine)
They talk a bit about the game they played earlier today for food comp.

Vortex

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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
9:52pm

Jameka: If its game, say its game, he's so full of it (Dick), but then what can you expect when there are people who really really want the money at the end. Its hard for me to differentiate that its just a game.
Jessica: Yeah exactly.
Jameka: So we shall see, but I'm not feeling the slop girl.
Jessica: You know what with Eric, I'm starting to wonder what he's like on the outside of the house. Whats going on in that head of his.
Jameka: Yeah I don't get the whole bouncing up and down. So when he says "average" that's average. (She refers to Eric talking about his penis size). If he wants to brag about it fine, he's been bragging about it for days. Casanova. I don't know, do you think he has a deal with ED and DAnielle?
JEssica: I don't think so. I'm to a point, I don't know what is going on here.
Jameka: I want to believe him Jess, if the money weren't a factor, but when that goes into the equation, I just don't know. I'm just ready for POV tomorrow.
Jessica: You think you will go into it relaxed?
Jameka: Yeah, yeah. I was trying to think if the Vetos are really that hard.
I really wish America's Choice stuff would get started.
Jessica: Maybe they aren't having it this week.
Jameka: Something good has to happen this week.
(she rambles a bit on things) I really had a nice birthday though.
Jameka: So, we are at week 7, dang, over the half way.
Jessica: then in the end it goes down to 2 people.
Jameka: I guess Danielle's speech was honest though.
Jessica: Yeah
Jameka: wonders about something it seems Dani said to her about "competitive" or "sitting next to you" Jam doesn't understand what Dani meant. (And I don't have a clue what she's wondering either, she keeps interrupting herself in between her sentences)
Jam and Jessi wonder where Dustin may be. They feel Mexico.
Jameka: but its not like they were, "make sure you bring your passport". I wonder if tomorrow will be "sloppy" a sloppy event.
Jessica: I don't know, maybe.

(In essence Jameka keeps skipping from topic to topic, in a evident down voice, she seems to stumble for ways to try get some info from Jessica - Jameka is being more nicie than asking direct or specific questions of Jessica)

The sounds in the back yard are now silent, and having only Cam 1 on, it would seems the guys have gone inside the house.

Jessica sits looking a bit uncomfortable putting in time with Jameka, and she just let's Jameka ramble on.

(gonna check other cams.....)

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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 10:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
10:04pm
Switching to all 4 cams two are on Jen who is posted in front of the HOH door, but no one is opening it. She is brushing her teeth with a tooth brush up there. She goes to the stairs and pauses. It seems she is either listening or looking for something. Jen then speeds up and goes downstairs as Zach walks by. She goes to the bathroom right through the house still brushing her teeth. Sorry not bathroom but into the Storage Room. Her toothbrush is still in her mouth. ( I have no clue why she did that).

Cams switch to Zach, Eric and Dick in the bathroom, where Dick is finishing a shower. Then Eric and Zach go into the kitchen toward the fridge.

Eric goes out of camera view and Zach is seen blowing his nose into kleenex. Someone in background is whistling. Jen is heard saying something to Zach, but inaudible. Dick lets out a huge loud burp. Jen goes into the bathroom where Dick is still in the shower stall wiping his body down.
Dick: So what is up with that you freak.
Jen: I don't know.
Dick: What do you mean you don't know, that is the biggest lie you've told in here.
(its something in reference to some peanuts).
Jen tries to explain she keeps nuts or something in her drawer to try keep track of days.
Dick: That is B*llsh*t.

BB: Jen please exchange your microphone.

Dick and Zach enter the kitchen where Eric is pouring some juice.
Eric: referring to Jen says: "yeah she's a f*cken wh*re master extraordinaire".
Zach goes upstairs to HOH room and hears Eric tell him he thinks Dani is up there talking with Amber.

Switching to quad cams 1 and 2 are still on Jess and Jam talking. Other two on the guys in the kitchen.

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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 10:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
10:12pm
Jen enters the kitchen where the guys are. She says she thinks Danielle is sleeping, someone tells her she's with Amber.
Zach is really teaasing Jen about "grabbing Dick's nuts" (joking). Jen says something and Eric and Zach break in and change around her words and tell her she's sounding weird:
Zach: something about nuts, and Dick and naked, and shower......

Eric, Zach and Jen realizes whoever cleaned the countertops didn't wipe of all the cleaner, which made the countertops feel rough.

Eric to Dick: Jen just tried to claim she was checking out your nuts.
Zach: we were trying to decipher Jen's saying something about seeing you naked and she saw your nuts.

(THEY ARE TOTALLY JOKING MAKING UP JEN STORIES IN FRONT OF HER).

Jen: I'm happy to be on slop, because I would gain weight if I was eating ice cream with you.
Jen plops down at kitchen counter btween Eric and Zach, and says she won't be able to go to sleep.
Eric: Jen, really go take a nap, go sleep.
Jen: I'm gonna go up to HOH.
Eric, Dick, Zach: Jen, please don't go up there, let them talk.
(Jen doesn't listen to the sage advice and goes upstairs to interrupt Dani and Amber).

The boys sit in the kitchen eating ice cream, which looks like spumoni.

Eric: Should go put mustard in Jen's bed.
Zach: She puts stuff in her pillowcase.

Amber comes out from somewhere. (so she wasn't in HOH with Dani).
Amber: I was in DR

BB: Jameka please go to the Diary Room

(Jess should be entering the kitchen shortly in her escape from Jameka).

Jen now takes JAmeka's place in the hammock with Jessica. Jess gets no escape as yet.

Amber and ERic are now in the round bedroom.

Eric: I don't know what you discussed with anyone else. I wanted you and I to be able to talk. For me I made a very difficult choice, and purely strategic, and one I think all the people , I shouldn't say all, but the majority of people involved in the voting process......I had a difficult time and it was troublesome to me on a personal level and I still don't know if it was a correct choice, but as I envision the game moving, and as some people collectively envisioned it, I thought it was a risk, and a difficult personal risk for me. I did what I thought needed to be done at this time. There are certain times in the game, that things need to happen and it was a last minute, gut instinct thing and basically it seems that, it was something lots of people were thinking and feeling as well. It was a very difficult choice. You know personally how I feel towards Dustin as compared to others. I tried for once, cuz I realized I hadn't been doing a good job, but I tried to seperate the game from personal feelings.
Amber: I just think, Whatever, I know its a game, I'm not mad at you or anyone and I'm not here to hold grudges. I just think, the only thing that makes me sad, is that it was Dustin who kept you here last week.
Eric: I'm fully aware of that, and I don't like to look at this scenario as its the reverse. This is not one person thinking, it was 5 or 6 peoples thoughts. I made it abundantly clear to EVERYONE that what he did for me last week was incredible and above and beyond, great in the game, great as a friend, and I completely agree with you. You are completely right, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him.
Amber: Like I said, you did what you felt you had to do. I voted to keep Dustin and I'm not mad, I'm fine. I am taking this a lot better than I thought I would.
Eric: You are incredible, if I was in the reverse, I don't know if I would take it that way, and I say this in a compliment to you.
It was not happy, not giggling, it was discussing every option, every scenario and I ultimately took a risk which will either pay great dividends or it could mean any one of us could be the next out the door. I did have personal reasons for it, for most part they were echoed by the other people. I think he was dangerous and a threat to win the entire game. I'm sure you know he had at times relationships and deals with everyone.
Amber: Yes I know, I agree.
Eric: He told me he had a deal with Kail and Jen etc. I, albeit, he rallied behind me in an incredible way, I was immensely appreciative, but I never felt beyond that point that he had a lot of trust or faith in me. He dealt with it from a numbers point. I felt a tad bit on the outside looking in. I knew I was being doubted and questioned to a certain regard. I didn't know how many times I could stand up to say it wasn't the case, it was frustrating to me. As it relates to who will remain in the house, I think there are enormous targets remaining in the house, and as I view how people will relate to one another, the entire playing field, and how to think how I can be in F4, I believe there is a multitude of ideas flying around why each of us should go or stay, and all I can try do is stay as long as I can. As I see us moving forward, it may be difficult to understand or believe, but I felt there would be more scenarios for me with Dustin out of the house. There was nothing wheeling and dealing, nothing concocted - its that there was a slight uneasiness and people took the chance while they had it. The aspects of it that were difficult are obvious and go without saying, you know what they are (she says yes), it wasn't like there were long chats they were last minute discussions.
Amber: Yes I knew something must be up with ED
Eric: That is not the story here either, this was a choice that was made invidivudally by everyone but collectively agreed by all. They gave me their spiels, but I totally discounted anything except my own assessments.
Amber: Why didn't you just tell Dustin?
Eric: To be 100% honest, 1. It was fairly cowardly of me, 2. It wasn't my doing, or my choice, and I didn't care for it to be seen that way. (Yes lol it was Americas choice lol)
Eric: This was not my doing by a collective at large agreement. Additionally, how should I know ever what Jen and Zach are going to do.
Amber: I believe you, I just wanted to know.
Eric: I, you know, the way that it all shook out was very last second, and it was impossible to find an appropriate time to have the discussion with you and with Jameka. The saddest thing in it was that the 3 of you I was the closest with (3 including Jessica). I hoped it wouldn't compromise me, but it was brutal and I wasn't proud, patting myself on the back, I was saying to myself this is a big and hard choice and one that 50.5 to 49.5 and I went with instincts.
Amber: I just feel like with the group, I don't even know if its a group anymore, and I feel how can I trust in the group now me and Jam are in the group. So if say I get off the block, how do I put my trust in that.
Eric: I think the 4 of us should sit down and talk and see what we have and what we don't have.
I would feel same as you. I was very surprised you two were nominated, I thought I would be nominated. I even thought if you had become HOH you had the right to nominate me.
Amber: I'm loyal - I don't think that. Yeah I had a bit of mistrust on you, but I thought we had a good relationship.
Eric: I can honestly say, and I won't put words in Jess's mouth, but I felt in the current config we had, that I would be the first one to have to leave. Nobody came to come in 5th or 14th but first. Do I think I have a chance at winning? Probably not, but the way I saw it after the previous week events, I felt I was easily the low man on the totem pole. Whether it required a bit of shake up or a different way of looking at things, I had to do it.

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10:38pm
Eric continues:

Eric: I know there were doubts to what I was doing and with whom. Even people thought Dustin and I had a side thing going. Fact is I never made any deals with anyone in this game, and I kind of, you know, it was frustrating, I felt I was being looked at different and on outskirts of things during that week.
Amber: I totally understand why Dustin left, that's why I"m taking it so well. I even told Dustin strategically it would be good for him to go. He was my strongest ally, but........anyways, now I'm a target again.
Look at me I'm on the block. People in the jury house will look at this like a game, they won't award the money to someone who they don't feel deserves it.
Eric: Yes it wasn't my intention to come in here and hate people.
Amber: I told Danielle last night if she puts me on the block its fine. I'm not gonna be mad, yes I will be sad.
Eric: I have no idea what they are doing. (He whispers and tries to hint to her that its probably not her thats Dick/Dani's target)
Amber: I feel it will be me. I told Jam if I stay on the block, I will be going home. Of course tomorrow I will fight for POV
Eric: I really hope you do.
Amber:-(cries a bit now) I have no one Eric, and it sucks so bad now.
Eric: I could sit here and make an argument, all I can say is you know I've always cared about you and the time we spent together. It hasn't changed for me, my concern is it may have changed for you to me. I have been awkward past few days and I know I had to sit down and talk to you and ot Jameka. Its a publically outted fact that everyone now considers me to be a threatening person in the house. They know I'm intelligent, have relationships and know the game well. As far as I personally feel, I don't feel I will ever feel safe in the house.
Amber: I feel that way about myself too.
Eric: You know, it was a crazy move, which flipped things sideways, I didn't know where things would stand after. I never have known where Jen and Zach stand. My intentions were "do this" and win HOH then have a week to figure it out. As we all saw I was the last "out of the box" and lose it.
Amber: So this was not planned when Dustin went on the block?
ERic: Never, my good bye to him was that if you are watching this something has gone terribly terribly awry.

BB: HGs you are not allowed to talk about your DR with other HGs.

BB: Dick please change your mic

Jen wanders into the bedroom on Amber and Eric, reporting where everyone is, so "I'm here to see what you two are meeting about".

Now Zach is heard. They leave.

Back to Eric/Amber:

Eric: As for timeframe it was never when he went up.
Amber: (thinks a bit).....I don't know, it just sucks, I felt we had such a strong group, now Dustin's gone and it shouldn't make a difference, but it does, I feel you and Jess now may turn your back on me at any minute. I don't know, I guess we should all sit down and talk.
Eric: I would like us to sit down and talk. There is a possibility we could come back better and stronger, or that it may not be there.

(Dick is called to DR by BB)

Eric: Jess had a brief chance to speak to Jameka.
(Dick interrupts their talk again)
(Switching to quads)

CAm 1 shows Zach outside joke chatting with Jessica

Cam 3/4 on Eric and Amber:
Eric: Dick and Dani still have a strong pairing. I never will play this like Dick and Dani the whole week they were up. Dick still is vicious and negative. But in regards to Dustin, every person felt Dustin as a threat. I don't think it was any of Danielle, Zach, Jen's or myself interest for Dick to be here. But the next day, I never expected that both you and Jameka would be nominated the next day.

Eric: All of a sudden today it went from you being up for nomination, I justdidn't know where to begin with you Amber and what to say. Because you also went on slop today too. I can....
Amber: It just sucks, I don't have anyone here, and I"m on the out of the group now.
Eric: I understand how it feels for you, because I felt that during my week up.
Amber: I did think Jam and Dustin got closer together too and I wondered about that.
Eric: I was starting to feel.....there was one night Jen and Dustin were upstairs, you and Zach were doing your date, everyone was paired off and in conversations not to be interrupted. Literally no one in the house at all other than Dick and Danielle sitting there, and I was wide awake. My options were to go in my bed, or sit there with them and b.s. with them. We talked about nothing. But after everyone thought we weremaking deals, and wondering what we were talking about. I felt no matter who I speak to , people would perceive some plan.
Amber: Do you think Jessica perceived you that way too? I didn't want people telling you things that you would feel it was me doing that and I get blamed.
Eric: No.

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Friday, August 17, 2007 - 11:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
11:00pm
Amber: When I doubt you on something Eric, I approach you directly.
Eric: I can honestly say there isn't a single person of the 13 people that I don't think I couldn't sit down and have a glass of beer with. Even Zach I could have a nice time with, but not in this environment. I know you had your doubts about Dustin, and he of you even. To me how sad the person you need to rely on the most, would still have doubts. I try my best not to feel that way and make problems where they don't exist.

(Recap: Amber and Eric really have a good solid logical discussion with each other, and the end result from this talk, will most likely be a meeting of JEss, Eric, Amber and Jameka to see where they stand as a group at this point, or if they do have a group - this is their consensus).

**Going to check quads for anything intersting and if not I'm gonna take a bit of a break from posting**

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07-12-2002

Friday, August 17, 2007 - 11:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
11:05pm
Checked Quads
Jess and Zach play frisbee in the backyard and Jen watches. No game conversation.
Eric and Amber are still talking, but nothing new, they are basically winding up their talk. Jen bursts in the bedroom again and announces she wants to lay down. Eric asks her for 4 minutes or so and she reluctantly leaves. Eric makes comments in a quieter voice about his annoyance at Jen always walking in and interrupting people and not taking a hint that the conversation is private.

Will check back here in the next bit, and post if something relevant happens.

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Friday, August 17, 2007 - 11:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
11:17pm
Quick Update:
Eric and Amber finished their talk, and now Eric is beginning the same talk with Jameka. (Ed. I'm not going to report it, because its the same talk as he has just had with Amber)