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09-19-2000
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 12:46 pm
Cam 1 has been on Mike for several minutes, sitting quietly alone at kitchen island. (changing cams) Quad Cam Cam 1 - Closeup of a shirtless Mike sitting at island. Cam 2 - Distant shot of Mike Cam 3 - 2 beds with sleeping HGs Cam 4 - Kail sleeping in her bed
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Watcher
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09-19-2000
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 12:48 pm
Kail opened her eyes and said something to Jen who has joined her, so guess she isn't sleeping yet. Jen pulls covers up almost completely over head and Kail has closed her eyes again.
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Watcher
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09-19-2000
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 12:54 pm
Mike gets more water and paces around, then goes back outside. Lays back out in the sun on lounger and pulls baseball cap down over his eyes. Cams 3 & 4 have moved to bathroom. Daniele is out of shower with large towel wrapped around her and leaning over blowdrying hair in front of bathroom mirror.
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Watcher
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09-19-2000
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 1:24 pm
Nothing happening. Cams 1 & 2 on the sunbathing Mike Cams 3 & 4 on Danielle in bathroom. She has finished drying hair, now putting on makeup. Dustin comes through bathroom and tells Daniele we're supposed to talk later to firm up things. Eric has been talking to Kail and has overheard her say some things that sounded a little suspicious. Daniele asks like what? Dustin says he doesn't know....that's what we are supposed to talk about later. She says okay. Dustin goes into W/C. Dustin out of W/C and washes hands. Says Zach approached him and he wants the HOH bad and me? Danielle asks what did he tell him. Dustin says he told him we'll talk later. Lots of whispering. Daniele says he'll believe anything you tell him. Dustin says he thinks he'll tell him the truth. He'll tell him he's just planning on putting up Kail right now. Daniele says he's a weirdo. Daniele thinks Zach is lying about wanting HOH. Daniele says she's sure who he wants to put up and it's probably her. Dustin thinks he wants to put up him as he thinks he's a threat and rightfully so. Dustin looks at all Daniele's makeup and asks if she steals some of that makeup. She laughs and asks STEALS? He says well how do you afford all that makeup? She says she gets a lot of it on Ebay like discontinued stuff and there is this Sach's store near her that has great brushes on sale. Dustin says he is nervous. He doesn't want to start lying. Honesty has brought him this far. Daniele says don't lie, just say like you are up on the fence. Dustin leaves room and Daniele continues full face makeup.
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Libshea
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08-31-2006
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 1:47 pm
Dustin and Mike have been having a long heart to heart. Mike is explaining to Dustin why he got into the alliance, how he now feels that if he remains in the house he will remain "solo" and just be true to his word. If he was to be HOH he would approach it with a general consensous of the house. Dustin said that he believes the house thinks he has an alliance with Amber, but he really doesn't. They are friends, but each keep to their own vote. Dustin told him that he wasn't making any promises to Mike as to his vote, but then later gave the impression that he in fact would be voting to keep Mike. They were in the process of wrapping up their conversation when Dick and Nick came into the backyard.
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Watcher
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09-19-2000
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 1:49 pm
Dick was called to DR. Mike talking to Dustin. Says it's hard to campaign against Kail as they were once in an alliance but he risked his own security when he was free and clear basically to show that he is a person that has values...honestly and loyalty and just being his true character. He's not sure if everyone has a clear view of what he did in the Veto competition. He just wanted to tell everyone where he was coming from. Dustin says it did show his honesty and loyalty, but a few questions come up. If his alliance was over, why would he continue to push that button and come on some strong. Mike says he was just being himself, if he says something to someone, those are the words he will stick by, not to be influenced by others. It took courage to go up there and do what he did, but hopefully this answers his questions. Vortex comes on for a minute. Kail was pushing for the alliance to the end but he saw the votes weren't there. Dick said we all threw Kail under the bus, but that certainly wasn't the case. He didn't want people to think he would backstab someone, didn't want false rumors going around...one of the reasons he did what he did in the Veto comp. Wanted people to see he was a man of his word, would stick by them, that's his character. Wanted to play the game fair. Hasn't lied to anyone during this whole competition. Is the way he wanted it to always be. Hoped that Dustin could in the future confide him and know that he is a trustworthy person. He can tell Dustin that he would not get into anymore alliances...wouldn't want that to be a threat to anyone...he would be on his own. He is willing to suggest to the house that should he win HOH at anytime, he would be completely willing to go with a democracy in the house as to who would be nominated. Dustin likes the fact that he takes a very diplomatic stand behind his decision making. His question is did he not go after Jen during the POV comp because Jen didn't put him up. Mike says yes, that was part of it. Remaining honest with himself, he personally felt he owed her some kind of respect and loyalty. He didn't want the rumor to be around the house that he is someone he is not. Told Kail it would give her a chance to redeem herself in the house and by going up himself against her, it sucked but those were the reasons. Dustin says the fact that Mike was loyal and honest told a lot about the way he was and how he played this game. Dustin says through Kail's actions, she proved herself to be an unworthy person. Every single move you make in this house is scrutinized. One false step and you slip and your whole foundation cracks. That's what happened to her. Dustin says as for where his vote stands right now, he doesn't choose to say. (missing a lot) For the most part, his position in this game has been to try to remain as neutral as possible. He feels like right now the only strong thing he has in this game is Amber and not sure if that can work against him. Dustin still not sure how Mike is playing this game. If they don't put you up, then you will owe them? Mike says honesty and integrity is his thing. He doesn't want Dustin to think that it's a favor that he owes everyone that doesn't put them up...it can't continue forever as you will owe everyone. He will fly solo...the alliance thing didn't work out...it wasn't his choice. Kail came to him and she felt they needed the numbers...it unfolded too quickly and if she hadn't sought him out, she doesn't know that that alliance would have formed the way it did.
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Libshea
Member
08-31-2006
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 1:51 pm
Mike is now having a conversation with Dani in the kitchen. They are talking about their vision -- Mike wearing contacts, Dani needing to get glasses becuase of abusing her eyes with the computer. They talk about laser eye surgery. Dick pipes in (I think from upstairs) that he would like to have it.
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Watcher
Member
09-19-2000
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 1:52 pm
Dustin told Mike that honesty and integrity is two words that he lives by and that he would keep it in high regard that Mike was honest and forthcoming, that he would keep that in mind when making his decision. Mike also wanted to tell Dustin one more thing. He talked about when it gets down to who would be on the panel of judges....says he would base all his decisions on who played the game with fairness and integrity.
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Libshea
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08-31-2006
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 1:55 pm
NOw Dustin is recounting his discussion with Mike to Nick in the backyard. But he is now saying that he didn't commit to his vote one way or the other. Dustin told Nick that Mike asked for his vote. He said he felt awkward being asked that. Now he admits he left it that he's leaning in Mike's favor. He told Nick that he doesn't beleive that Mike has lied yet. Nick says it really doesn't matter cause he hasn't played the game right. Dustin said that Zach told him he is gunning for HOH and the he believes that Zach is going after him.
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Watcher
Member
09-19-2000
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 2:04 pm
Several HGs up and stirring now. Nick and Dustin talking now. Dustin says he told Mike he bases things on honesty and integrity and left him leaning in that direction that he would vote for him. Told him he had been watching him and could tell he was a very loyal person and appreciates that. Dustin tells him Zach is really gunning for HOH this week. Nick says Zach told him if he got HOH he would put up Kail. Nick says he never voices his opinion as to who he would put out. In next breath he says realistically the 3 people he could put up right now would be Kail, Jen, Zach. Dustin talking about what would happen if one of those 3 got HOH. Chances are pretty good. Nick doesn't foresee Jen putting him up. They've been talking and they're cool. She might put up Daniele? Said she didn't care what happened, she just wanted to have cool people in sequester. She would want to get Daniele so she wouldn't have to have her be there in sequester. Dustin says she wants YOU in sequester. (lots of hot tub noise so can't hear everything) Nick holding up arm so Dustin can see bruise. Asks him if he can help him trim his hair. Dustin asks if he should shave his head? Nick says do whatever you want...you would look good with shaved head. Nick wants to do a mohawk. Dustin goes inside. Says he will ask someone what they think he should do with his hair.
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Watcher
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09-19-2000
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 2:17 pm
Dustin, Zach and Daniele in kitchen. Zach called to DR. Daniele goes to bathroom to look briefly in mirror. Jen is in there brushing hair. They speak briefly. Dustin comes out of W/C, washes hands. Jen is swinging her hair back and forth. Dustin says atta girl, rock it out. All 4 cams on small bedroom now where Daniele headed and she and Nick talk for a few seconds as they look through some clothes. Cam moves to backyard where Kail is talking with Dustin. Kail trying to get info from Dustin. She asks him why he won't say who he is voting for. He says he's not telling anybody. She says because like Joe and Carol did....saying they have the votes...she completely understands. Dustin says when they meet again she will either say thank you for.....or NOT. laughs Zach out of DR already. Sits down on patio with them. Nick doing laundry. (I have to go....thanks Libshea for helping)
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Libshea
Member
08-31-2006
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 2:35 pm
Cams on Nick in the kitchen, Dani in the living room. Talking about being bored. Now Eric has joined Dani on the couch. Nick joins them. Now talking about Nick's dream that the three of them won a pie eating contest. Won IPOD nanos. Now 2 cams on Jen and Kail outside going over Kail's converstation with Dustin, others. Says the impression she's getting is that they will be voting from their heart, and that someone said that they could care less what ED thinks. Jen doesn't think that ED is even telling people what to do. Kail says she thinks its because he's so sure of himself. Jen thinks this week is a lot different, no one has asked her what her vote is. Jen isn't committing. Kail feels confident she has some votes, doesn't want the lack of Jen's vote to keep her from staying. Jen says its ridiculous that Jessica has changed her vote, that it's kind of crazy that she wouldn't be voting for Mike. Then Kail tells her that Dick was accusing Jen again of putting mustard on her own shirt.
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Libshea
Member
08-31-2006
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 2:46 pm
Nick, Dustin, Dani and Kail in LR talking about commericals, furniture in the house. (sorry got to go)
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Pennylane1101
Member
07-13-2007
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 3:27 pm
eric and mike talking out on the couch. eric tells mike he was never on his radar. mike says that jen had always given them the indication that she was in tight with him and that he was cool. mike saying he is who he says he is, things he says are true. "its all about integrity, means more to him than the game". He is saying he is flying solo, no alliance, if he were to win HOH, he would run a democracy- the most mentioned nominees would go up. Or a meritocracy- a 1-5 scale of house involvement? combine the scores? Mike is trying to remove any threat Eric says there is some degree or bond of trust. But if you feel like you cant fall back on anyone, its going to be hard. Wonders is Mike going to try to solidify any relationships or go march to the beat of his own drum? Eric says he has NO DEALS. "not his cup of tea". Mike says he wants to walk around and get to know people, have them decide to put them up or not based on knowing him.
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Pennylane1101
Member
07-13-2007
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 3:39 pm
Mike says he wanted to have no alliance, but situation developed when he entered, he isnt sad that the alliance fell apart. Happy he can get to know everyone. Eric- in your estimation, pretty obvious Nick/Zach had lots of disagreements, all day everyday, does Mike think that this is all for show or is there a legit rift? Mike- hasnt spoken to either. thinks rift is legit. washed hands of alliance. however, with fact that zach and nick had inside alliance within MRA, mike wouldnt put it past them. eric- did nick's working other ppl in the house bother the alliance? mike- bothered kail, she felt betrayed, why she wanted to call the alliance out. eric- what made you apply to be on BB- a fan or a challenge? want to play the game with ppl it means alot to (means alot to kail). never meant anything to carol. this is why it was difficult to see joe go.. mike- didnt start watching til season 6, probably quarter thru, same with allstars. addicted to it. eric- takes a certain person to go away from life.. mike- the challenge in itself, go thru 12 or 13 ppl, come out on top. biggest challenge for myself was that alot of cast is there because they are liars. there are a few diamonds in the rough who are true (like he is)... if he could get thru with complete integrity and honesty, it would be well worth it. the money would mean more, what would it mean to the cast, etc. disturbed by hgs without an answer for $. eric- in my eyes, clearer who more of the upstanding, truthtellers are. just as much value to saying this is who i am, man of my word, like it or not. people up to things, people not.. not sad to see joe go bc he had an alliance with every person, appliance, in the house. knows mike is trustworthy. had a casual convo with someone yesterday, heard it repeated 2 hours later. never had that impression of mike. why does mike think he & eric havent really had a chance to talk? mike- product of circumstance. matter of so much going on in house that unfortunately he hasnt been able to see inner source of many people. almost awkward now to say lets go have a conversation. eric- please be honest. i wont hold it against you, but.... jen comes and interrupts....
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Pennylane1101
Member
07-13-2007
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 3:41 pm
feed changes, we will never know erics burning question 
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 4:37 pm
FROM screencap thread to help fill in blanks here. (lots missed as usual by me) - 3:44 pm finally! Eric and Mike talking outside (missed a lot since I was outside) eric talking about how he is looking for someone that he can talk to and not hear it being repeated to someone else later. eric Wondering why Mike and him have never sat down and talked before now? Mike just the way the chips fell. There is nothing about you that makes me want Not to know you better. there is so much going on in this house that I ahvent had the chance for some people Mike there has never been that One on one time. it is kinda awkward to say "hey" lets go talk about stuff As Mike and eric get into it.....jen and Dick invade LOL Conversation OVER!
Jen asks dick if he asked about if the Producer change their HOH blog. Dick says No, but you arent allowed to swear and call anyone a fn dripping rotten C*nt. -----eric has asked the others to leave. E- Give us some privacy for our conversation. Dick says that there is no privacy in this house....(and he wont leave. Dick continues to talk about random stuff) dick Starts Razing eric about Jess in the tub yesterday. - 3:56 pm eric says that Mike has already dated all the women in the house. Now is having a date with Eric. finally Dick leaves. e- Just because one person does something, does not mean that everyone is behind that person. e if someone is choosing to have blowup in the kitchen, or whatever. it is not the way we would want to have the situation to unfold. eric- perception is how it goes in the house, and that......(I've missed so much sorry) e people were displeased with the way that people were being put on the spot. E saying that he isnt sure what they were thinking on their side. Says that the people he hung around with did not come up with a plan that Dick would go 'start stuff' Mike says that he is glad to hear it. it is how that person truly is. It is that the house will show everyone's true colours. In no way, shape or form did i think it was a "group" effort. e this all started when Jen started to make her replacemetn nomination. There were all these rumblings of who belongs to what group. Why cant we do like you are saying...be who we are and do what we do, and how it shakes down. ((good convo. I sure hope that a Live Feeder with good hands is catching this LOL)) 4:06 pm o now I know why Dick was down razzing Eric about jess in the bathtub. Right now Dick is having a bath with Jess. she looks trapped and uncomfortable (dick is farting in the tub) oooooooooh they are doing PICTURES for the HOH camera. party in the HOH room here is Eric too. - 4:11 pm this precise moment.....just chitchat the below pic is Eric tongueing Carol's pic.
- 4:18 pm whoa..our boy eric is going for it! Spewing Antikail...and is making Mike look good to Dani. eric talking very quietly because everyone is behind them in the kitchen.
Dani thinks she might talk to mike later. Eric says it was interesting and back into the kitchen they go. ( WOW very sneaky convo!) 4:21 pm taking funny pics on HOH cam
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Ryn
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 6:07 pm
Major Pow Wow between Dick, Dustin, Eric and Jameka, they are discussing Mike vs Kail.
I Can't stay
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Heaven45
Member
08-18-2006
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 6:14 pm
Heavy converstation in the HOH room. Jameka, Eric, Dustin and Dick are there. Eric is doing most of the talking and said he has spoken with both Kail and Mike. I am new at this, so please bear with me. Major things Eric said are this: Mike is a "lost man" ( I take this to mean he thinks he is going to be gone) Kail has done more campaigning and Mike has talked about his integrity. Kail said she would be happy to stay and be up in the future as a pawn while they go after other enemies. He says Kail offered up seventeen different scenarios about how her staying can help and how she is after this one, she is she won't do this to that one and she gave a list of names. Eric asked her, how do you get this list of names, when you don't speak to them, I know for a fact some of them dislike you..... Dick says you have to look at this from all sides. Eric says, "Let me clarify, I like to look at both sides in detail. I am not stating that I want one or the other to happen, I am playing Devil's Advocate entirely and I am saying, let's hash out both sides and let's say, this is what we need to do. I don't want you to think I am campaigning one way or the other. I am more than happy for either of them to go and I am happy to try use whoever stays as much to our benefit as much possible.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 6:17 pm
6:10 pmJameka tells group meeting in HOH room that Nick threw a temper tantrum with her today. (This after the group in talking about the "alliance" says: Let's not leave Nick's role in that alliance out". Dick asks Jameka to explain what happened, which she does. (issue about "cross contamination with spatula between chicken and something else. Jameka asked btwn Zach and Nick who brings up who's name? The group responds that Nick always brings up Zach. more talk about Nick. Dustin: we need to deal with problem at hand....who goes Kail or Mike. I believe next week we need to send Zach home. Zach bashing. Dustin says Zach wants to team up with him for an alliance.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 6:18 pm
screencap thread bits n pieces to add ((i'm not staying)) 6:07 pm eric she is much more of an aggressive and >____< (missed) player than Mike. he is a lost man. he is upstanding, he doesnt lie, he is loyal, he puts himself on the line Dick ---and gets put on the block. E he doesnt have the relationship and doesnt have the plans to put forward (paraphr) J Hmmmmmm mmmmmmm mmmm E she is acting differently She is jumping off the bus. She thinks I'm going. (eric talking about kail says about Jen!) E so I asked Kail...what is mike going to do? if you and Jen are together, what are you going to do? mike is gone and you guys are together. D I planted a seed in kail. Strategically jen acts as an individual. Jen works in her own favour. She threatened to put up Nick. up until the last moment she was going to put him out. J a scorned woman, you have to come at it from that Aspect. D I asked Mike about the POV comp. E he presented it as him and kail -___++(talked over) J but why, would he do that? kail was going. ((sorry hands sore cant do more for now)) Eric we are either keeping a 'for sure' duo...or mike and Jen a Possible duo. Dick - But I dont see that. Mike zach and nick talking in kitchen Eric --who would be left in the house to stir things up. kail, in the converstion I had seemed to offer up a list of names and things she would do. (paraphr) jameka- kail has shown that she wears her emotions on her shoulder, she needs our support to build her back up. Mike? where does he stand? we dont know. 6:15 pm eric we cannot let Nick off the hook for this. Jam and he is having temper tantrums Eric- Joe was keeping him updated and feeding him stuff. now joe is gone. Has a drunken tantrum, punching the tetherball. Jam tells about her 'interaction' with Nick. she was cooking with raw hamburger and she wanted to make sure he wasnt using her spatula for his food. Nick says to her "will get off my fn *ss!" ((lots more missed))
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Heaven45
Member
08-18-2006
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 6:27 pm
Eric trying to be totally neutral. Jameka says, "Kail has pretty much shown that she can be unstable and quite frankly, she needs alot of us to build her back up. With that being said, look at Mike we don't know where he stands." She says how is Mike serving in this game? Eric says that Kail says she hopes never to win HOH again. Jameka says, "I don't see how if she doesn't win, she will be safe, but ok, if that is the game plan" Eric says it could be bold face or it could be something she feels. Jameka says she doesn't care, she says fight your game. Dick was annoyed that Kail said, "Oh, if I am gonna go, let me go before the sequester and before the jury"
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 6:30 pm
Jameka does not "buy for one minute" when Nick or Zach say they aren't competing for HOH. Dustin: Zach said he is gunning for HOH so bad this week. Eric: if Zach stands in front of me and has audacity to to say anything, I will tell him he's a f*cking molester and we are sending you home. Dustin: Zach told me I'm intimidating and I feel it was a threat. I stood there and I smiled and said: "I appreciate that compliment". Dick: I spent more time with Zach. He f*cking hates Danielle and Amber and he told me he will put Danielle and ... on the block. Dustin: With Kail representing herself as a pawn , take it. If I win HOH I will put Nick and Kail in and then if anything backdoor Zach. Eric: I agree with you but, let me say this, Kail is offering these things but look at the way its happned past 2 weeks. Joe was never initial person intended to leave house. This week Thursday at 7pm Kail was target and by noon Saturday she was no longer the target. Dick: I said Kail was going up but waivering between Jen and Mike. Everyone knew Mike would go up after veto. Eric: Danielle was target last week, Kail this week. Are we just giving Kail a pass because she is saying she'll be the pawn and feels close to the following "4" people. One scenario "maybe Kail can help us" but we know she's active wheeling and dealing. Other is Mike who is like a dying duck, and I wonder if Kail staying is only worthwhile if she will truly be helpful to us. If Kail is of value then keep her, but if she is not lets send her home. Dick: I agree she is more a threat than Mike. If we cut Mike loose will he go back with Zach and Nick? Jameka: we don't know Mike we know Kail through her actions. Dustin: This week I've been her shoulder to cry on, but I'm also planting seeds in her mind on Jen. Eric: I think we should not let any of them off the hook, I think we just take them out of the game. Dick: you're saying if we keep Kail in she is more apt to reorganize the other two? Eric: yes Dick: Kail, Jen, Zach and Nick 4 who could very easily be back together if we keep her. Dustin: Kail is a terrible liar... Eric: she didn't speak for 18 days then went to the one of us who she could corner and intimidate to change the vote last week. She picked on the one person I didn't want and then held it over my head, and I said, "go f*ck yourself". Dustin: That was when she believed she had strength....but she doesn't have strength now. (Dustin keeps trying to push to keep Kail)
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 6:31 pm
- 6:30 pm eric is losing his position in the conversation. Kail is offering these things. But look at the way its happened these last few weeks. This week thurs seven pm it was solidly KAIL, and by .......she wasnt. Dick cut off Eric and says his piece. Eric- are we just giving Kail a pass? she wants to be a pawn?? She is saying it like she thinks we are going to keep her longer. we know she is active wheeling and dealing. Dick without a doubt, she is more of a threat than mike is. jam -We have to look at competitions. think about endurance competitions. We know what kail is like. Kail is unstable. What is mike like? we dont know. dick...so what you are saying, is that if we keep kail she has the ability to reorganize the alliance? eric She will attempt to pull us in. Dustin But she is a terribly liar. eric -but she is a bully. Trying to force us to vote a certain way last week. Dust- but that is when she thinks she had strength.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 6:32 pm
excellent!! i'm gone
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