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Mlt
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09-18-2002

Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 8:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mlt a private message Print Post    
Dani and Amber are whispering in the washroom - about who is voting for Dick and who is voting for whom.

They both are voting for Dick to stay. They think they have at least five. And they seem to think that if it’s a tie, Jen will vote to evict Joe - so all they need to keep Dick is five.

Amber saying that she doesn’t mind Jen. Dani talks about how rude Jen is to her.

Now Amber seems to be looking at her roots (hair). Said something about it only being hree weeks.

Amber is putting on makeup. So now Dani is bugging her - wondering who she is getting all dolled up for.

Now Dani has left the washroom.

Mlt
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09-18-2002

Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 8:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mlt a private message Print Post    
Now Jess has entered the washroom. Amber asked her if Jess was voting to evict Joe. Jess didn't really give her an answer. Talks about how she doesn't know who is telling the truth.

Amber is talking about giving your word and keeping it. Now Amber is asking Jess if Dani has told her how she is voting. Jess says no. Amber pretends that she doesn't know how Dani is going to vote. Jess susects that Dani will vote to keep her dad.

Amber says that she and Dustin are voting to evict Joe. And then talks about the personal situation between Joe and Dustin being really hard so they have to get Joe out.

Now Jess is indicating that she'll probably be voting out Joe - doesn't want to go against the house.

Saguaro
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06-21-2005

Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saguaro a private message Print Post    
Kail, Jameka and Danielle sit on the back patio. Danielle talks about all the cakes she likes. Dani says she would like to have some brownies. Jameka agrees.

Kail asks Jameka what's she's thinking about. Jameka says the game as usual. Kail asked her if she likes it. Jameka says mostly but not all the down time. Kail says it's about who you trust the most.

Kail says she doesn't like people who play the game by intimidation. Jameka agrees. Kail says we have two liars, and one intimidator. Jameka says Joe doesn't have the votes to stay. Kail goes through names of possible votes for Joe, and Jameka says no to each one.

Evil asks Jameka if she is OK. Jameka says she is, just fighting the slop.

In the hot tub Jen has changed her unitard again to make another swimsuit. Evil calls it a stripper outfit.

Saguaro
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06-21-2005

Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 9:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saguaro a private message Print Post    
Eric and Jessica talk in the BIG room. He tells her there aren't too many people he trusts. Jessica says Joe says he has the votes to stay. He couldn't tell her who all the votes were. Eric says he can't take all the campaigning, it really gets old.

Eric goes outside to join Daniele in the hammock. Danielle tells Eric he is late, she doesn't like late dates. He tells her his car broke down.

They talk about who everyone is voting for. Eric says he always says he tries to give everyone a chance. Daneile says she doesn't trust Joe at all. She says you should hear what Joe is telling me. Eric says, you should hear what he tells me, it is insane.

Dick comes over and talks about problems going on with the shakes. After he leaves, Daniele says, that's what he came over for. Eric says he's telling everyone.

Eric says they both think they are staying. Danielle says that Joe is scared. Daneile says "Oh Dear".

Eric says I'm sure you like being here since you were a fan of the show, but sometimes isn't it just a pain. Danielle says it is, but it's the game. Eric says it's the same routine everyday.

Danielle says she hates fake people, she will not kiss anyone butt. She hates that everyone talks so much smack. Danielle hates how Zach is so nice to her, she believes he is fake. Eric agrees with her. Danielle says, that's the hardest part of the game. Eric says you can't escape it. Danielle says that why I just sit in my bed sometimes.

Saguaro
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06-21-2005

Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 9:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saguaro a private message Print Post    
Inside the house - Jameka and Jessica talk in the small bedroom. They discuss conversations they've had with other houseguests about how the votes are going down so far.

Kail comes in to join them. The conversation lightens and Jameka makes a quick exit, then it called to the DR.

Kail asked Jessica if this week is an easy decision or hard. Jessica says I have to sleep with him (Joe), but it's not too hard. Jess says she is not a 100% yet. Jessica says she can't speak honestly to him. Kail says she thinks she can speak honestly to him. Jessica says she does, but doesn't believe Joe is honest with her.

Jessica says he is a great personality, but doesn't think she can trust him. Kail says, can you trust "E". Jessica says no, that's why it's hard.

Kail says she is waiting to hear how Jessica and Kail will vote to make her decision. Kail says she doesn't want to be the only one who votes the "wrong" way. Kail says she doesn't talk to Jessica enough ... says she thinks she can trust her. Jessica tells Kail she can trust her.

Jessica says she tried to find out what Eric is doing, but couldn't. Jameka comes back ... Kail tells her that was quick. The three sit silent for a fe moments. Jameka says this is awkward, and leaves to go to the bathroom.

Dick pops his head in to see if Kail has a few moments to talk. Jessica says she thinks there is four, and would vote to keep Joe if they can get enough people. Kail says Daniele will vote to keep her dad here. Jess says she doesn't know who the 5th person would be. Kail ask Jess if she has influence over Eric. Jessica says she has tried.

Jameka comes back, there is still silence, so she decides to leave again. Kail tells her to come back, Jameka says no, she is going to read.

Saguaro
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Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 9:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saguaro a private message Print Post    
Kail says she will vote Evil out. Jessica says Jameka would too. Kail tells her to try to get Eric's vote, and she will get Mike's vote. Kail tells Jessica not to rat her out, because she could do the same to Jessica. Jess says she wouldn't do that.

Kail says Eric is the key right now. She tells Jessica that she must get him to vote with them.
Kail says unless you're with Evil and just fooling me ... I don't hang out with you. Jessica says no, we are different personalities, we don't mix.

Saguaro
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06-21-2005

Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 10:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saguaro a private message Print Post    
Jessica and Eric talk in the HOH room. Jessica tells Eric everything Kail said. Eric thinks that's bad that she will vote a certain way if she can get enough votes.

Jessica says, well this is me trying to convince you, but darn, it didn't work. Eric says, just tell her you tried.

Jessica says she told Kail that Eric makes her own decisions. They continue to talk about votes until Jen comes in and inturupts them. Eric says he was listening to music. Jessica says, well think about that ... She leaves the room. Eric puts on the headphones.

Jen walks over and asks what's been going on. Eric says not much, just a lot of scrambbling by everyone. Jen says Evil is leaving, Eric says he doesn't think so. Jen says who does he have. Eric says he doesn't want to get into the middle of lies by other houeguests. Jen says she doesn't like all the sh*t talk, but Evil is going. Eric says he's not sure.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 10:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Eric and Jen talking.

They both agree Dick is a troublemaker, and Joe is a liar.

Jen: Joe is a completely liar. Trying to regain trust.

Eric: Only today.

Jen: If he tells a lot of people he's putting up Dustin and Amber, who's going to trust him?

Eric: No one.

Jen: And I understand, he can totally be lying.

Eric: Have you ever sat in a room with Zach, Kail, Nick and Mike at the same time?

Jen saying not all four at the same time.

Eric: I'm not going to tell anyone. It will look like I'm lying and won't do any good.

Jen: No one would understand. I'm smart.

Eric: I won't tell anyone. Because Nick spends all day saying how he hates Zach. So it's a misdirection?

Jen saying yes.

Jen: We've been in a room with me, Mike, Kail and Nick. It's pretty much just stated that we like him. (Zach) But people are annoyed. He touches girls, he tells stories. So basically, we're not putting him up, but if it happens, that sucks.

Eric; But when you suggested putting him up they had a heart attack.

Jen: Not a heart attack, but Mike had a twitch.

Jen and Eric laughing about a twitch.

Jen: They were devastated.

Eric: Nick came to you and said I'm with Zach, Kail and Mike? Just to clarify?

Jen: I'm not going to ask them directly but I paid more attention when I put Nick up.

Eric: That's very very weird and hard to believe.

Jen: Nick, I talk to him. I understand what he's doing. I did talk to him for the first couple of days and probably maybe did kiss him and whatever.

Eric: Probably maybe?

Jen: Probably maybe. We're not going to go there because it's done. But we maybe probably discussed who we could dislike in the house. I was given details about

(I didn't get her at all)

Eric: I didn't get that in all. That wasn't even in English. ()

Jen: It was confirmed. Kail, Mike, and Nick.

Eric: I can sort of believe that because they used to hang out more

Jen: Nick is the outs. Kail and Nick are worried about each other.

Eric confirms that all those people - if any of them get HOH they will put up Daniele and ED (or Joe).

Jen: Kail is the only one worried about putting up Daniele because she feels like she's created a bond with her. Kail is planningto put up whoever is left plus Jessica. Or anyone who is playing to take Jessica off and replace Jessica with Daniele. She's totally cool with putting her up after that POV power is gone.

Eric: So she speaks in sentences now?

Jen: I warned her about speaking in sentences. Zach was up for putting up Daniele vs. Jameka.

Eric wants to know if he's been mentioned; Jen says, not at all.

Eric: Very interesting.

Jen: So you have a lot of info now. And if you lose me you lose the benefits of me in real life.

Eric: "The benefits of you in real life." Please.

Talking about Jessica now.

Eric asking what nanny job Jen could get her.

They say she could be a maid. (joking)

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 10:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Kail and Jessica join Eric and Jen in the HOH.

Kail sort of running the meeting. She wants to know who he's voting for. Eric says he doesn't know who he's voting for and if he knew he would tell them.

Eric: I've never attempted to conceal my vote previously, and I am not attempting to conceal this vote. If I don't want you to know what my vote is, you never will.

Everyone laughing.

Eric: If I felt so inclined I could say, "I voted for whoever" and I could lie.

Jen: Whatever, I could find out.

Eric: What, would you break my kneecaps?

Eric giving the spiel that he hasn't been able to talk to Dick yet to present his side. He won't talk to Dick until late night.

This is how Eric talks: "be more apt to be able to have more clarity on how to vote"

Kail saying she needs to know how he's voting and Eric wants to know why it matters to her.

Eric: As far as I see with ED, what you see is what you get. You may not agree but what he says, he is.

Kail: If he stays he owes me. Did he tell you that?

Eric nodding

Kail. Good, because if he stays he owes me.

Jen is counting votes and she tells Eric to shut up.

Jen: He only has one person to put up, Mike. He has to put two people up so what's he going to do?

Kail: Exactly.

Jen: Jen won because everyone was like, "OMG what if Jen wins."

Eric: Hold on a second. Why is it that my specific vote would impact what you intend on doing.

Jen: I'm drunk I should leave. I have a word to say every time.

Kail: Why?

Jen: We just want you to vote the way it should be.

Kail: I don't want to vote against him and have him stay. I want to know we have the votes to get him out before I vote him out.

Eric: In the event that he's going to stay, you don't want to be in the group of 4 that he might target.

Kail: Because of his actions during the nomination speech.

Jen: and the two hours of intimidation before the POV competition where he admitted he was trying to make me mess up. Calling me a b*tch, fooling around.

Eric: I can say this with all of you in the room. If anyone here thinks I have been anything but 100% honest, tell me now. I'm not a run and repeat person. That' a solid viable reason.

Kail: I already have a target. I don't need to be cussed out every day, him telling lies about me to everyone else. He can't put me up; he has told me he will honor his word. So if you're saying why is your vote valuable to me --

Eric: so why is my vote specifically - isn't that everybody's vote? People have been approaching me all day. My assessment is that people are telling both of them that they are voting out the other one.

Kail: I'm saying no. I'm saying, say "this is how I'm going to vote."

They count.

Kail: I'm just saying, I think we have the numbers, Eric.

Eric says that's good but he's not going to commit to anything because it's 2 days away.

Jen: I don't think we should confirm or deny who we're voting for. Just know deep down who we're voting for so we all know it and we're comfortable. But at the same time, just know that Evil's going home.

Eric: So you want Evil to go home.

Jen: Shut up.

Eric (laughing): I'm just trying to clarify your statement.

Jen: I don't want to clarify your statement.

(bit of an argument)

Eric saying that neither is taking it lightly.

Jen: That's why it's a blur.

Kail: But don't tell Evil because this way he'll only have one minute before he has to leave.

Eric wanting to know what the concern is if she's uncomfortable and he's so unpopular.

Kail saying he has a lot of people on his side.

Jen: You're not number one. Daniele and him are always number one no matter what they say. It's not a "wonder if", they're together. Daniele told me the first night that it was going to be rivals, past family.

Jen saying they saw each other in auditions and talked. They're lying. They're a family.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 11:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Kail: Does Jessica have the guts to do that? (put up Evil and Daniele)

Jessica (a little offended): Yes.

Jen saying she is strong and she feels like ED has been really hard. She's never been treated so rudely.

Jen: I've been called every name in the book, Daniele told everyone that I'm a mastermind crazy person. They are together. They watched BB together for years.

Kail: You're not on his hit list yet but he will find something about you.

Eric: I know, but do you think Joe would do the same thing?

Kail: Joe doesn't have the numbers behind him that ED has.

Eric: Are you sure about that? Joe had 12 adults at story time.

Eric arguing that Dick stinks at competitions. Kail saying that it's hard to get votes against ED they should take the chance now while he's on the block.

Eric saying that just because Joe comes up while he's desperate why should they believe he will put up Dustin and Amber?

Jen: Is Evil putting up Dustin and Amber?

Eric (disbelieving) I don't think so

Jessica says Joe would put them up.

They kick Jen out for being too drunk.

Kail: It's almost impossible to get five votes now. Ths is the perfect week to get rid of evil. We have an HOH who will tie break and get him out. ED lied to me. He kissed me and said I was safe. 2 days later I heard I was his biggest target. He told me, "I'm not having any relationship with him outside of this house." So he could care less if he lies to me because he doesn't plan on seeing me again. I told him I plan to see Daniele afterwards and I was hoping to hook up with you?

Eric saying comparing the two is not apples and oranges. More like apples and apples.

Kail says ED's game is intimidation and that he brags about it. He intimidated Jen and he's proud of it.

Eric: I agree, but are you capable of being intimidated by him?

Kail: I see through him and I will put him up. So no, but I don't want him to come at me cussing me out, and I don't want to have to do that all week.

Eric saying he predicted Jen would win HOH, but he really doubts that ED would win HOH next week.

Kail thinks everyone is too chicken to put up ED. "It's going to take me."

Eric: Well, or Mike or Zach.

Kail ignores that and says this is Eric's best chance to get Evil out.

Eric: How is it different than Joe.

Kail saying lots of people who will put up Joe, but no one will put up Evil but her but her chances of winning HOH are small.

Eric says he would be willing when the time comes. So he doesn't think he should be included on the list of people who won't.

Eric playing Switzerland big time, saying it's all week-to-week.

Kail: If he doesn't go this week he will make it all the way.

Eric doesn't think so; he's going to go up multiple times.

Eric: Who are these other people going after? (laughing)
Kail says they will be going after him (Eric).
Eric: People are welcome to nominate me if they feel so inclined. Eric says he's not in an alliance with anyone.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 11:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Kail: I completely liked Evil until I caught him lying.

Eric: Playing devil's advocate, but is it a known fact that not only has Joe told a lie but he's told 500 lies?

Kail: I agree, but it's much easier to get Joe out than Evil. Everyone wants Joe out, and not everyone wants ED out.

Eric: the fact that one of them will be leaving will help lessen the amount of crap everyone has to get through on a daily basis.

Eric saying it would be best if they could both go; Kail and Jessica both agree.

Eric saying he's not emotional. He wants to give them both a fair chance and take it from there. Kail saying she likes that because when she's on the block she'll get to talk to him.