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July 22 "Spoiler" Show Thread

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Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
If we were in England, Poser, you might have said, "Bloody genius."

Kalekona
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Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
Hukdonreality OMG that was great!! lol

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I think Eric should mess with Zach's stuff. First he would never think Eric did it, but he might suspect Kail, since she's been going around telling everyone that he through her under the bus. Or do it to Jen. She would not be a happy girl and again she would never suspect it was Eric. It's a way in my opinion to mess with Zach, Kail and Jen..my three least favorite hgs.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

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Kale! I'm actually a member of Menstra...I'm really smart about every 28 days

Needmylifeback
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Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Needmylifeback a private message Print Post    
Who is the messiest houseguest? some of those people leave stuff all over .. they may not even miss things .. although it would be funny for Eric to apprehend all of Jen's Jenshirts ...

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 6:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
Loved the "TiT for TaT" Then didn't he say, "so to speak" ??

LOL

I always take this board as a pretty accurate slice of opinion out there. I was shocked Jen got the Eric vote over Kail.

Stopjustwatchin
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08-19-2005

Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 6:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stopjustwatchin a private message Print Post    
although it would be funny for Eric to apprehend all of Jen's Jenshirts ...

Now THAT would be funny stuff.

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
Oh wait, if ya want drama, Eric should mess with the JEN shirts. We are all tired of listening to Dick rant. Jen will way over the top react to something like that. I think she has my vote. Plus I think it would make the rest of the house happy.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 6:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
I'd vote to vandalize Kail's stuff. I recall her going thru the house during the hide and seek veto challenge. She totally went thru others' stuff.

Mysticlady
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07-05-2007

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I voted for Eric to vandalize Kail's stuff. Also, did I miss Daniele's boyfriend being on the show tonight? I thought it was advertised that he was going to be on. May be the ad I saw was for Tuesday's show.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 9:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Guess where I fast forwarded during tonight's show... the "come and see my HOH room" part, thank goodness it was a brief one.. I can't stand that phony part of BB...
another scene was the counting of the score after the food comp... who cares!

I did rewind the wrestling scene, that was funny.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 9:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Okay is it just me or does Jen come across almost like she's a sociopath?

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From dictionary.com:

so·ci·o·path [soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-] Pronunciation Key

–noun Psychiatry.

a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience

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I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but I'm just shocked at her lack of normal social response.

1. She said that she doesn't feel bad when people are on slop....she explained that she feels something but it's not "bad".

2. She gets nommed and says that she feels nothing.

3. She pulls her mom's picture off the wall and hides it, apparently without it ever crossing her mind that it might hurt her mother's feelings.

4. Dick screams at her "I F-ing HATE YOU" and she just smiles.

In every one of these instances, her face was kind of confused or blank-looking, as if she was trying to figure out the surprise on the faces around her when she says these things. Her reactions in these extreme social situations are definitely off the wall.

Personally, I think the girl ain't right.

It seems to me that she just doesn't possess the same kinds of sympathetic or empathetic feelings that anyone with a genuine conscience has.

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 9:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
I try to stay out of the arm chair psych stuff, but I just finished my school pysch degree. She very much reminds me of a girl I worked with during my intern. I have thought off and on the same sort of thing. I stop myself only when I think about her reasons for doing this show, meaning if this is her break into "fame" then I am not sure how real this is of her. If this is the real Jen, I definitely see issues.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 10:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Anti-social disorder? :-)

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 10:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
don't forget that sometimes the 'strange aloofness' hides a fear of getting hurt, if you remain indifferent there is less a chance of commitment and failure is so avoided.

But that's just an interpretation of Jen's aloofness.. It could also mean that she really doesn't know the others well enough to feel any emotions for them... (she did say this to Dick when he told her "I don't give a f.. about you" and she replied "Exactly, we don't know each other"... (I'd love to go back to that psychology armchair thread).

Darrellh
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07-21-2004

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 6:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darrellh a private message Print Post    
When Dick told Jen during the nomination ceremony, that it was "tit-for-tat", I half expected to hear him say "...and I've got the tats."

Avrey258
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06-23-2002

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Avrey258 a private message Print Post    
I worked with a girl who acted a lot like Jen. She actually had a mild form of autism, it had a name but I can't remember what it was called.I need to hit google as I am sure I can find it.

She was aware of it and talked openly about not being able to feel empathy/sympathy for others. She said she would hear others saying they were upset with her but she could not read body signals so when they told her how her behavior affected them she was always a little shocked. She acted the same in any situation. If someone told her they were sad or happy or upset she always smiled and would just start talking about herself or something totally different.

In the four years I worked with her, I only saw her cry twice, once when she broke her nail and the second time was when she got to work and realilzed her shoes didn't go with her outfit.

I worked in a treatment facility at the time so there were a lot of sad situations and stress but nothing ever fazed her, unless it affected her personally and even then it was superficial things.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 8:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
Avrey, my son is a high functioning autistic child. i really don't see any autism in her.

lack of empathy/sympathy can come from a wide range of disorders.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 9:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Jen also cried (actually, she blubbered like an idiot and carried on and on and on...) when she didn't like her picture on the wall.

She apparently can't "feel" things about other people, but feels in a hypersensed fashion if it relates to her self image.

Yeah, there's definitely something not right about her.

Avrey258
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06-23-2002

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Avrey258 a private message Print Post    
O.K., I called my friend who still works at the facility and she said it is Asperger's syndrome. I'm not saying that Jen has this, just that the similarities between her behavior and my former co-worker are striking.

Didn't Einstein and Mozart have this too? I believe I read somewhere that they did.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Bobby Fischer allegedly has Aspberger's syndrome.hmmm Bobby Fischer-Einstein-Mozart-Jen

One of these things just doesn't belong. hmmmmmmm who could it be?

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
Wow.....you all are serious.

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
I am a Special Education teacher. I work in high school, learning disabilities room. I have had a ton of Aspbergers kids in my career. Though there are exceptions not all have some grand talent. I have 2 on my case load now and they have definite social cue issues. One has space issues, as far as standing too close, touching others belongings, etc. The other who I have worked with all summer on the side, has issues "budding in" to all others conversations and groups uninvited.
It is interesting in my 12 years of teaching how much more they are diagnosing with Aspbergers. Most of us have people in our past that had really big social cue deficits and were kindof the outsider, but, were not "diagnosed"

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 3:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
People with most psych diagnoses exhibit a wildly large range of presentation.. it really isn't "know one, know them all" situation.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 4:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Someone posted in another thread that Jen has slight autism. I don't know where they learned that. Would that fit some of her social skills, or lack thereof? Also, could it be that she just refuses to say the words BB is scripting for her, so she says the opposite? Just a thought.

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 5:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
She has social skill issues or is displaying them, what I am not convinced about is what is the real Jen and what is for TV

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 6:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Spunky, if you had seen the HGs on the live feeds when they first went into the HOH room, you'd have had a different opinion. They all seemed really excited to see pictures and they spent a long time in there looking at them and talking. At least, most of 'em did (Jen just kinda stood around, and Kail and Jen left after about 5 minutes).

SanFran... OMG, that was EXACTLY what I was thinking last night about Jen. And her "lack of response." The "I don't feel anything" stuff. Like, um, hello! Except, at the time, I couldn't think of the word. Thanks!

Jen's social skills have nothing to do with her lack of empathy for others, and her extreme reactions when she doesn't like how she is perceived. I also don't think autism plays a part in that. Something's off, but I dunno what.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 6:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"At least, most of 'em did (Jen just kinda stood around, and Kail and Jen left after about 5 minutes). "

I think she looked around and said something like "Huh....it's just some pictures." (paraphrased)

My first thought was that she really meant "Nothing to get excited about....I'M not in any of these pictures."

:-)

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
The student I am working with that sums him up very well. He just doesn't see what the big deal is about many social situations. Why is it an issue to join their convo, why can't I take this book off his desk. Why would anyone cry cause you are mad at them? That type of thing, it is reactions/emotions as part of their social skills. I am not saying that is Jen, only cause I am not convinced it is not an act. I am only saying the one in the room that has almost always the opposite reaction/emotion, that fits .

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 7:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think both SanFran's and my point is... it's not an opposite reaction. It's not a reaction at all. She just smiles and looks confused. It's a big blank nothing. Nada. No one home kinda thing.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
That's how I see it Costa.

Will did the same thing in season 2, but you could easily tell that Will was laughing inside. You can't tell what, if anything, is going on inside Jen's head!

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
I didn't think we had opposite points :-) I am or was not debating it, I was trying to show from a professional point that what you are seeing is very common in my field. I am saying that would be an "opposite" reaction. The fact that there is none. Where the rest of the world would be awwww or in tears, they would look like they were in the wrong room. Lack of emotion or reaction is the opposite of the social norm.

My only debate is what is for tv drama and what is really Jen. Though I see similar social miscues from her all the time, I would not professionally draw a conclusion with out seeing it outside of the house.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, July 23, 2007 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
LOL. And sorry SanFran... I so did NOT mean to speak for you!!! :-)

Sanfranjoshfan
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No problem. :-)