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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 9: Negativity VS Positive Attitude: Archive through September 09, 2007 users admin

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Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Usually these two traits are good compliments to each other. A business partnership isn't as good if both partners are gamblers or both are conservative. Having both ends of the spectrum is good for balance.

I have observed that Dani is always so negative. Perhaps it is a "drama" thing, but I am not sure. It seems to me that Dick is usually the one with the positive attitude... "We can do this..." and she is the one always sulking when things are not guaranteed for her.

Her highs are high and her lows are low. I'm sure there is some clinical term for this behavior. Dick is passionate, but he is always positive. With his positive attitude, I'm surprised he hasn't made more of his life. And where does Dani get the negativity from? Did she learn it from him? Or did it come from somewhere else?

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
Since we haven't walked in her shoes! And don't know what she has happened in her life, there is no way to know where it comes from!

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
By who's definition of "more" should Dick have made more with his life? I think he's okay with himself AND his life.

Many many young people today are "negative" in exactly the same way Daniele is.

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
Why does he need to make more of his life? Couldn't he be happy doing what he is, not everyone has to aspire to be Bill Gates.

Other than that i do agree Dick does have a positive attitude and Daniele is very young, even younger in mind than in age.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Yes. Perhaps. I didn't consider youthful negativity.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Perhaps.


ETA: Jessica said many of the same things Daniele does.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
If Dick didn't want to make more of his life, he wouldn't have applied for the show. Of course he wants more. Wouldn't you?

He even said he wasn't there for the "experience" he was there for the money.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Let's say Dick is positive where is daughter is concerned and is negative where others are concerned. This doesn't make Dick "always" positive. There's a big difference here.

Dani, on the other hand, is for the most part negative with her father and with others.

Usually the negativity in one so young could hide the need of reinforcement of her self-esteem. Her constant reference to Jen (she brings up Jen more than her father does) as the most hated hg could hide the fact that she needs to be told "you're so much better than her".

Sometimes her negativity is forced to counteract her father bravado in all things, it's her way of telling her father to stop getting over himself and concentrate on getting the job done instead of jumping all over with expectations and dreams of certain glory.

She may be a negative person but I still prefer her to her father's positive attitude for selfish reasons.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Dick said he is 44 years old and this is a once in a lifetime experience for him and he doesn't know at his age how many more of those are going to come along.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Perhaps she is negative to elicit her father's positive energy?

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
I really like his positive energy. I do not see it as false bravado.

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
Daniele gets her negativity from Dick.

The saying " a chip off the old block" its very appropriate. I understand you reference to Dick's positivity, but the reality is, thats far and few between, if you really look closely, and you have some idea of psychology..you will see it and exactly where it comes from..

Also, every single human's character traits are set by the age of 6 (could be 7) but definitely by that age. It is prove/researched/studied, that it will not change through their lifetime.
Her traits were set by that age, and now as 2 adults....it does not help that Dick feeds it further.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Dick is both negative and positive. He is negative about other people but he is positive when it comes to his and Dani's chances in the game. Dani just tends to be pretty down a lot of the time with occasional upswings when things go well for her.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Tobor,

if you were the daughter of a father who starts jumping all over and yell "We won!!! We won!! WE DID IT", let's just get rid of these morons, let's just kick that mother.f.ucker, let's show those idiots..."

How do you think you would react to this behaviour???

I think Daniele's negativity could stem from there.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I would imagine that this house, these people, this game have quite a bit to do with all the negativity we see on our feeds.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Bee, yes, and past HG's have commented on that very thing.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
I think Dick's mom raised her during most of those early years.

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
90% plus of the people who have been HGs over the past 8 years have not exhibited anywhere near the extent of the negativity that we have seen in this season. The negativity in the past would come and go, however in this specific season, it began on Day 1 and remains to this end-constantly, its consumed the air they breathe in there. It began with Dick, and festered through the house with the other Hgs. It is so stockholm syndrome, skinners box, what ever psychological connotation you want to apply.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
The house isn't a breeding ground for positivity.

It's meant to stress people out and drive them batty. That doesn't make for a positive atmosphere in and of itself.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Robert...Jace...Josh...Ivette...Beau...Boogie...
Will...Maggie...April...

They all seemed pretty consistent to me in their negativity

Bearware
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07-12-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bearware a private message Print Post    
I thought the question was, where does Danielle get hers, with such a positive father. Didn't think we were just discussing general negativity. Yes, a lot of young people are negative. Not an attractive trait.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
I don't see Dick's actions in the house as positive. I see his actions in the house as those of a very angry and insecure man. Now, maybe he is not that way outside of the house, but the way he has acted in the house, to me he presents himself as having a very negative attitude towards himself or towards others.

Mandee
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07-17-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mandee a private message Print Post    
I believe Dick has said in the past that he has a bipolar diagnoses, so it is possible Dani has some form of mental illness herself. That aside, I'm not sure what is wrong with the life Dick has made for himself. While he has some regrets from his past, he seems to be doing what he loves. Just because it isn't the career path you'd choose for yourself, doesn't mean he hasn't made something of himself.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I see Dick as being positive only when it pertains to trying to counter Dani's negativity..or bring up her spirits when she's down. When he's around others, he's usually very angry as a way to justify treating people badly. There is a weird dynamic going on in their family.

I don't exactly know how it would be classified.

Many have brought out the fact that D/D don't see what they do as wrong, but when others do the same thing..it's horribly wrong. What is that? I know it's hypocrisy, but sometimes, I get the feeling in their minds they really don't think they have done anything wrong.

Someone in their lives never taught them how to lose at anything. Maybe that's where the sense of entitlement comes from in Dani. Both D/D will be nice as pie when things go their way and do 180 degree turn when things don't go their way.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
I think that Dick wants Dani to remember that it isn't over with until one of them is walking out the door.

Dani is young, and immature and because of that she thinks because something really hasn't gone her way (except to win POV) that it is over for her.

I think Dick is just trying to remind her that it isn't over until the fat lady sings...