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Loppes
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07-12-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
Whats555 it was a voluntary service to this site, just as it is with all the other live feed posters. I had a summer where luckily I was able to contribute what I could, because there are so many people out there who don't have them. Interstingly enough, this aspect of Live Feeds at this website, was the main thing that drew me here that very first year. I am convinced, that TVCH was the first site, to be able to provide that service to viewers. And to be honest, I think TVCH does the best job of the whole internet in that style of reporting. The other websites which developed like the one beginning with a "J" and "SS", copied from this site imho, but this far remains the best for accuracy.
I commend the website owners on that. :-)

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
Scare yes I totally agree with you. The sad reality is Kail was 38.....but Dick pushed her out.

Tanzanite
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06-28-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 11:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tanzanite a private message Print Post    
At the end of this show, what my mind keeps bringing up is the effect of Karma. Whether producers aided in the Donato's getting to a final victory or not. The Donato's have to deal with what they have put into the universe and they don't have the mentality that says: "I should seek forgiveness.... or I was wrong..." Giving them the money will result in the payback that they deserve. No joke, watch, it's universal law.

The really scary thing is what may occur to unsuspecting supporters of this bad behavior, as they too have been seeding into some unpleasantness and must reap what they have sown.

Wavewatcher
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09-09-2006

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 11:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wavewatcher a private message Print Post    
Thank you, Loppes for your great posts. And I, also, applaud you for standing up for what you believe.

Wavewatcher
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09-09-2006

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 11:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wavewatcher a private message Print Post    
My guess is that CBS is going to let the show push the limit so it won't be surprising to see more of the same and worse next season. It's all about the ratings...

Bygdatty
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08-25-2007

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 11:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bygdatty a private message Print Post    
I was a Dick fan in the beginning. I liked the fact that he would call people out in front of the whole house. In previous BBs, there was a lot of whispering and he said/she said. Dick cut to the chase and confronted people in front of the whole house. That was refreshing. I think a lot of the Dick fans still like that about him.

But he crossed the line with his comments. His verbal attacks. You can't simply say it was strategy because not only did he rant at people to their face, but he did it behind their backs and when he was alone. This is him.

I didn't care for Jen in the beginning. But when I saw Evel Dick going off on her saying the most vile things, I thought, "What if that was my sister?" or "What if Jameka was my daughter?" How do you defend a man threatening people, calling women the C word and saying all manner of horrible things? Even Dick knows how this feels because he wanted to beat up Dustin for calling Dani a 'skank.'

I could've pointed to other houseguests who have said horrible things. But then a little voice tells me not to justify bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior. Plus, i couldn't convince myself that they were all like Dick because it wasn't true. I couldn't justify Dick's behavior. I tried to in the beginning to my girlfriend who hated him. But I just realized that Dick crossed a line that I couldn't follow.

And this has been a miserable season. For me, a Donato final 2 is Maggie/Ivette to the Nth degree.

What

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 12:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
CBS polls? Never been there. Can't say they reflect everyone's opinion.

Cousin_jake
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07-04-2002

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 4:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cousin_jake a private message Print Post    
I've enjoyed the show this year. As far as the feeds go, I watch them much less now but it's the same every season. Once Will left last year I only tuned in to watch Erica and Boogie's reactions following the jury questions that last Saturday night. I imagine I'll do the same this year. Once it's down to the final 3, there's not much to watch. (Now, if Janelle and Will had been the final two, I'm guessing my habits would have changed! LOL)
Jessie

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 4:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
If BB is cancelled I would not mind after the terrible behavior that has been allowed.
Loppes thank you very much of all of your hard work,it is a pity that this was such a miserable season.

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 6:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
Loppes, I respect and agree with the moral stand you have taken. And thanks to all of you for expressing your shared disgust so eloquently. It is very heartening to read.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 6:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Because they become in absolute and total fear of him, they mimick his words, and actions, because they all full well know, that if they defended Jen, Dick would come after them next, faster and harder. Dick actually lucked out in that house of contestants - there was not one houseguest, besides Jen, who had the ability to stand up to him. And that, is why her name is still prevalent, in every other word he says

Yep its lord of the flies goes Hollywood. I stopped watching the feeds when Dick threw the drink at Jen. I think this season has doomed big Brother. I would certainly be reluctant to watch next season if CBS and Grodner are pushing reality abuse as entertaiment.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 6:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
To me this is just a silly game with a bunch of wannabees and I don't care what they do. I have found that over the last few years I get far more entertainment out of the posters and their reactions than the BB houseguests. Every year it is same ole same ole, accusations of cheating, condemnation of guests, other guest put on pedestals, we rant and we rave, some say they love it, others say they hate it but we all come back. To me this board is far more entertaining than the show will ever be.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 6:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
HA! Good points, Llkoolaid!

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 6:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
I enjoying this season. I don't watch the show with any high expectations of anyone and I try not to judge them, I am not there.

We have heard time and again from former hgs how stressful the house is. I believe it.

To me this show is all about entertainment, when I start not liking it, I will go watch something else. Goodness knows, there are a TON of reality show knock offs, but this one is still the best.

Messalina
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06-19-2005

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Messalina a private message Print Post    
I sort of disagree with you Llkoolaid. I think this season has gone far beyond the hatefulness of other seasons. Yes, there were some baaad folks in prior years. Some I hated, some I liked, some I was indifferent to. There have been times I've been downright angry at some of the HG's behavior.

This is the first BB season I have been literally sickened by what I've seen and heard. I'm talking about that sick nauseated feeling in the pit of my stomach. Part of the reason I've been so affected is reading, on this board and others, the defense of this behavior. I'm utterly astonished at the outpouring of approval for a person (persons) who says and does the things I've seen this year.

I can't be brief and succinct because I'm unable to find the right words to describe what I feel. If I used the words I want to use it would be considered bashing and my post would be removed. It's not that I want to use obscene language to describe these people but I find even normal 'words' can be unacceptable and I can do nothing but sputter and stumble around trying to voice my thoughts.

I wish this season could be X-ed out completely and next year was already here. MY biggest fear is that all the approval given the horrible actors in BB8 will cause the producers to try for more of the same next year.

In my opinion, BB may be forever ruined and I blame this years HGs and their supporters for it.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Personally, I have to agree that this was the most disappointing BB ever for me. Others have said it well, so I won't belabor it; but I don't think Dick's behavior was an act at all. I think it was an expression of who he is - it came far too easily to him to be an act.

And I agree with others who said he would absolutely have not tolerated the kinds of things he did to Jen, done to his own daughter.

To me, that is the worst kind of behavior of all, to think it is okay for you to treat someone so horrendously; but to become indignant and outraged if someone would do the same to you or your own.

It's sad, because I wanted to like Dick. I generally like to root for the nonconformist. But I couldn't find anything about the man Dick is to admire or root for. I just hope he does decide to go into therapy, whether his daughter agrees to go with him or not. Perhaps that will give him some insight into how he damaged that relationship, and continues to destroy it.

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 8:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
Karunna, great post, you really hit the nail on the head for me (lol not physically), "It's sad, because I wanted to like Dick". That exactly what I felt about him in the beginning of the season too.
It just never came to be

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
there was not one houseguest, besides Jen, who had the ability to stand up to him

Let's not forget that Mike stood up to Dick and instead of rallying around him, the other HGs treated him like he was a fool and he was immediately evicted as a result. I think Mike should be proud of what he did.

It's just too bad that Mike finally was pushed over the edge at a time when he was vulnerable. If Mike had stayed, I'm sure Dick would not have got away with what he did.

Lanative
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07-24-2007

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lanative a private message Print Post    
I tried to watch BBAD last night. Couldn't take any more 5mins of nothing but ED, and his gross habits (no one the backyard smells like funk).

If that's what the rest of the week is, I'm done.

Steviegirl
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07-07-2005

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Steviegirl a private message Print Post    
I'm done with BB this season. I didn't watch Sunday night's show, I haven't turned on the feeds . . and ditto everything Bygdatty said up there.

This is the same feeling as when Ivette and Maggie were final 2. Big Brother was dead to me then, and is again now. The only thing that will get me to turn on the final show is to see everyone else.

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
Yes, I loved Jen and thought Mike seemed like a gentleman but was also very handsome. I'd like to think he at least would have intervened in Jen's behalf. in spite of all this I still think I want the Donatos to win to send a message to Jessica/Eric. They to me acted even more entitled than D/D. I would like to know if anyone has an idea as to why the CBS BB polls seemed to put Dick at the top in popularity and why America never asked Eric to vote Dick out? I do not believe the consiracy theories, I think Dick really is popular and wonder what is the reason. I tried to answer someone last night who asked this question and the only thing I could think of is that Dick represents the people who have always been outsiders or want to tell people off in their lives but can't so they get a kick out of Dick doing it on a TV show?

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
I also would like to say I do not think Dick should win. I think Dani should based on the fact she won so many comps and the others did not stand up for Jen, including Zack and Jameka, the night of the cigarette incident.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 12:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Ambi, I too was hoping someone would enlighten me a bit more about that. But I think you came pretty close.
I read somewhere it's like "hate the sin, love the sinner" syndrome, something like that.
I surely can't understand that. It's typical secularist, it captures the tension in the soul. Well, most people don't even believe in 'sin' anymore, it's some kind of 'pathology' that can be cured with 'therapy', which aims to reassure the delinquent that we love and accept him after all. Go figure...

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"I would like to know if anyone has an idea as to why the CBS BB polls seemed to put Dick at the top in popularity and why America never asked Eric to vote Dick out?"

I saw people posting here on TVCH that there was a link to a votebot that would vote for Dick over and over in the CBS polls. A friend of mine saw it on some other message board, too.

I can't create a votebot, but from what I understand, for a smart tech-head it isn't very difficult. We've also all seen people posting about how they were voting on multiple computers, voting multiple times, and/or voting both via computer AND texting to greatly increase the number of votes they can cast.

If I vote the allowable 10 times against Dick for either the CBS popularity poll or the AP poll and some other guy votes 50 times for Dick because he has access to 5 computers AND he spends $ to vote via text messaging another 10 (or more times, depending on how many phones he can use).....how is it an accurate reflection of the majority? It isn't.

You simply cannot trust on-line polls like this.

Battlestar
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07-27-2005

Monday, September 10, 2007 - 12:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Battlestar a private message Print Post    
if VOT-BOTS can be made for anyone---I am sure someone has made one for Zach too--or the people who like him have access to 10 computers too.