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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 9:25 am
Cricket, backdooring is a thing of the past now that they can all play for POV, IMO. My guess is Jameka, Jess, and Eric will fight like crazy to get it regardless of who goes up. If Jess and Eric are on the block, it will be interesting to see how hard Dick and Dani fight for POV since they want to keep their hands clean of Eric/Jess's eviction. I cannot wait until tomorrow. Woot! LOL.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 9:26 am
Zach basically has to determine if he goes with <77> (D/D) or <77> (E/Je)...and you know what happens in that case....
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 9:34 am
uh... what happens?
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 9:37 am
IMO, Zach should put up Jess and Jameka because he has less chance of winning against these two in a F2 with either. If Veto is used then I'm not sure who the jury likes the best next, maybe Dani. He needs to start talking to people before he has to nominate one of them. Whoever he puts up, he should tell them before hand that they are not the intended target just for good pr. If any of the JEDD alliance are up on the block, they would be smart to let their partner win pov so that they both will be safe. For example, Jess and Jameka get nominated, it will be better for Eric to win pov than for Jess because then they are both safe.
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Doublethink
Member
08-23-2006
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 9:58 am
Denecee - why worry about F2 if you aren't going to make it to F4? Zach needs to break up one of the power couples; putting up Jameka initially is a waste of a nomination. Zach might have to put Jameka up after veto, but it's a terrible choice initially. He shouldn't play it safe here, he should really try to get rid of Eric. If I were him, I'd put up Eric and Jessica. If Eric were to leave, the targets might switch to either D&D or Jameka and Jessica, which would give Zach next week free. But Zach's all about the dudes so I guess he's forgotten his "get revenge for Nick's eviction," and is going for a Jameka nom instead of Eric.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 11:08 am
Doublethink, you have a point but Zach has been in the house with the JEDD long enough to know that none of them are above turning on eachother. I will be surprised if the JEDD stay together. Already, I was reading E/J talking about hoping Dani gets put up after the POV if she isn't already up there and voting her out.
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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 11:15 am
Looks Like Jameka spent the night with Zack in the HOH LOL. So Jameka probably wont be going up, as she has managed to stay in another HOH room.LOL
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 11:17 am
Did they all sleep in the HOH? Screencaps shows a lot of bodies in the HOH room
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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 11:25 am
MY Bad I only saw her and Zack when i checked the feeds again, I didn't realise that they had All been up there for a bit on lockdown. Sry
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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 11:26 am
At the end of the day, everyone who doesn't want Eric to win should want Eric gone so that we have control of his vote for the winner.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 11:41 am
Do they realize that the POV is now history ?
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 11:42 am
Rather do they realize backdooring is not an option ?
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 12:04 pm
how is POV history they are doing the POV comp. tonight. never mind i just saw your second post.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 12:31 pm
I still see it as a "backdoor" if you intentionally don't nominate someone hoping that the veto will be used so that you can then put that someone on the block after the POV has been played. It doesn't really matter to me if Eric can play in the POV, he can still be backdoored. If JEss and Jam go on the block, Zach wins POV and puts Eric up and everyone votes Eric out, I consider that to be backdoored.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 1:09 pm
Klaw, I guess it wouldn't technically be called backdooring, but say Jess or Jameka win the POV and take themself off. If Zach put Eric up and he got booted, it would kind of be a backdoor. What I don't get is why Zach is afraid to put both Jess/Eric up and yet he doesn't realize they'll come after him anyway if he puts one of them up. He should put Dick/Eric up and take his chances. Instead, he really doesn't get it yet about The 4 being in an alliance. He believes everything D/D tell him. I can't wait for him to see the shows where Nick and Dani bash him so much. I wonder if he'll sit there and say.."Oh...that was just for the game."
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 1:24 pm
OH, I hope he doesn't see where Nick was bashing him because he seemed to really think of Nick as a friend. Why would you want to see hurt feelings? Jess and Eric also told Zach that they didn't have an alliance with D/d but I don't think he believes it. He does know that alliances are made to be broken,lol.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 1:35 pm
I think Zach DOES get it about the four of them being in an alliance. What Zach is hoping to be is that key 3rd person in a two on two battle. Zach can't win HOH next week so he has to find a way to survive past this week. Maybe he'll win POV, but maybe not. What he's hoping is that though D/D and E/J are two couples working together, neither side really wants to go to the F4 with the other. So he's figuring that if Jameka is gone, he is that crucial 3rd person. If D/D win HOH, they put up Z and one of E/J. Zach is counting that when it comes to eviction, D/D will keep him in order to break up the other pair. Then Z can step in and pair up with the remaining person AND play for HOH. The same thing works if E/J win. Now if Jameka wins POV, Eric goes up and Zach breaks up that couple and can hopefully step in, but that's not a guarantee because he knows that Jameka does NOT want to work with Zach and will work with whichever of E/J remain. It's the kind of convoluted thinking that Zach loves. We'll see if it works.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 2:52 pm
right on Onlyhuman
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Jgirl0129
Member
08-15-2007
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 2:57 pm
At least Zach is being honest that D/D have presented to him
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Ambi
Member
08-11-2007
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 2:59 pm
If Zack doesn't put up Jess/Eric and D/D don't vote out Jess then I will figure BB is rigged for Jessica to win. There is no other reason for Zack's preferance to want to put up Jam when she can't compete. Please..
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 3:00 pm
Okay, seems Daniele convinced Zach to put Eric and Jessica up. I can't believe Eric hasn't even tried to talk to Zach to be sure that he still wants Jameka out. He'll be in for a surprise. I just hope Eric will find out somehow that Daniele was the one who pushed Zach to nominate him. Obviously both Jessica and Eric will try hard for POV and if they win it will force Zach to put Jameka up. If it's Jameka with Jessica, Jessica is going home since Jameka can't compete for another HOH. If it's Eric against Jameka, Eric will be going home. So, either Jessica or Eric will be gone on Thursday. The second eviction on Thursday will be surely Jameka (as the sitting duck).
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:36 pm
That last convo with Eric right before noms was a mistake, IMO. Zach is trying to get gauranteed personal safety next week from EVERYONE in exchange for Jameka getting the oust. Safety from Dick and Daniele, yes a good move. Safety from Jess and Eric? As if. Who else are they gonna put up when Jameka is gone? Plus when it gets back to Dick that Zach was double dealing (again) he'll be mad all over again. Zach overplays his hand and doesn't know when to quit--all over Jameka to boot, who is the least threat in the house.
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:45 pm
Agreed. Why is this guy even in the house?
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:48 pm
You see, I dont figure it is doubledealing. Zach is hoh let him make his OWN deals. Why should dick be angry that Zach is making his own deals? i thought it was really bizarre up in the HOH room when Dick told Zach that HE was going to go talk to Jess and Eric and make a deal. How presumptuous! I think zach is so messed up in this game that any noms he does are frivilous and wont mean anything. Either D D will vote as a block or E J votes as a block. Zach has no power at all other than the noms. Jameka, he might be able to bully into voting his way. Jess alone, he might be able to twist her arm. Dani, zach feels she is his team. he will assume she will vote his way. eric nope Dick nope so a truly brilliant Numbers guy should put up eric against Dick.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:50 pm
to clarify--- for the HOH to regain power over who goes, zach needs to have one half of each team on the block and make sure it stays that way. Then he deals with the remainders for full safety. with Jameka firmly on his side voting HIS way, he could send up whichever one he chooses...Dick or Eric. Now That would be a brilliant move.
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