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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:33 pm
I don't want to bring god into this discussion. But if it's preordained... 1. She was totally blindsided when Dustin was eliminated. 2. Her last alliance mate was eliminated last night. Do you think she's feeling vulnerable? Played? What do you think she should've done differently? Do you think her absolute devotion to the LNC was her downfall?
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Mssas
Member
08-04-2006
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:35 pm
I think she should of had a lil talk with Zach.
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Nutsy
Member
08-14-2001
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:36 pm
I think you're right. Giving up those HOHs for her alliance did nothing to win that particular PoV, and has cost her the game, in my opinion.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:42 pm
i dont understand how anyone who had been trying to get onto bigbrother previously, and watched the TV show COULD have been blindsided. She knows what kind of deals people make on this show. She did Mssas, and He prettywell was abrupt and rude in my opinion. Do you think she's feeling vulnerable? Played? vunerable yes, played by Eric yes What do you think she should've done differently? Opened her eyes and visited with everyone in the house instead of quietly sitting and just observing. Do you think her absolute devotion to the LNC was her downfall? i didnt see absolute Devotion. I saw a woman who felt she was in a Solid Alliance and she was their last chance to win That veto. She felt she had to do everything she could as a sense of honor. not to ERIC, but to her principles. JMO}
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:43 pm
She wasn't devoted to the LNC. She was devoted to "the group".
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:52 pm
'the five'- thx Beek. the LNC were officially disbanded before that POV comp.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 5:04 pm
You don't think giving up five HOHs in a competition that she didn't need to win was an act of "absolute devotion?"
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 5:11 pm
I do, Costa...and an act of absolute horrible gameplay.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 5:20 pm
LOL, Bee. Yeah, I sort of think that Jameka had absolutely no gameplay at all in mind. She spent the first how many weeks just sitting in the background. Then the next few weeks mmm hmmm'ing her way thru the days. When she started to play the game, she gave up the opportunity to compete in five HOHs. I think Jameka's fatal error was that she thought it was preordained. So that meant she could sit back and do nothing, because nothing she could do would change the outcome. I also think her fatal error was not getting to know ALL of the houseguests. She was pretty much glued to only a couple of people. She never really spends much time with Daniele. I don't think she spent much time with Jen. She doesn't like Zach and spends no time with him. Isolating yourself is never a good strategy, is it?
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 5:21 pm
She gave up the HOH's to keep Eric from going on the block because he was supposedly in her alliance at that time. She did talk to Zach today.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 5:22 pm
Did she talk to Zach today to just talk? Or did she talk to try to keep herself from getting nominated? A bit of a difference there, yes?
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 5:32 pm
I think Jameka's fatal error was that she thought it was preordained. on that point I totally agree. And frankly, that is something against Christianity which states things can change based on our choices in life. I really wonder how new of a christian jameka was considering some of the actions and Bible talk I saw with Amber. She didnt even know the Parables when trying to tell amber. anyways.....I'm avoiding the religious talk! sorry threadstarter.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 5:41 pm
I couldn't agree more that it was her downfall in the game, and she totally lacks the understanding of FREE WILL. And I think you guys were right when you said giving up the 5 HoH's were a sign of devotion, but slightly off who she was devoted to. It wasn't the LNC, it was God. Cause remember if she did "all the right things, then the outcome was pre-determined". My guess on what she believes happened...The devil is a strong, very powerful force too and some in the house were influenced by that. I will refrain from detailing how I think she may feel as it is pure speculation (bet it's accurate though lol) and I couldn't disagree with it more lol. *Disclaimer* Please don't argue this point w/me as it's only my guess for how she is justifying what happened and is DEFINATELY not what I think happened lol.
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Shoe_diva1966
Member
07-21-2005
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 6:01 pm
Question: Did Jameka ever say that it was preordained for her to win.... or just that it was preordained. There is a difference right??
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 6:19 pm
She said the winner is preordained. Whether that's her or not, she didn't really care, she was just going to play the game.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 6:27 pm
Shoe, she said the outcome was pre-ordained, but only implied (but did so rather strongly several times) that the outcome was for her to win. Dick asked her that directly - sort of in a combo of disbelief/trying to understand/a dash of tude lol. But when talking privately with Amber, they did discuss this and Jameka DID say that it could not be God's will that one of "them" (referring to Dick, Dani and anyone they felt wasn't one of the now infamous good people) would win. I recall this as I was horrified and rushed to post how I found that blasphemous (seriously). And on a couple occasions she also implied that as long as she kept her word and played a rightous game it would have a successful outcome for her. So while she didn't directly say it was to win, it was darn close. I think her exact words and tone were even clearer about this. Also, she never would answer Dick's question. So while I see there is a difference, I don't think in this situation there is much of one.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 6:38 pm
When asked, yeah, she never directly said that it was preordained for her to win. But it was certainly implied, and her expression said more than her words.
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Shoe_diva1966
Member
07-21-2005
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 6:43 pm
Thanks Lurknomore, I was wondering had I missed something I haven't been glued to the feeds this year like I was in past seasons.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 7:12 pm
WWJD..............pack.
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Laralyn
Member
08-04-2005
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 7:25 pm
LOL marameko
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 7:41 pm
LOL Marameko!
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Friday, August 31, 2007 - 9:34 pm
Well it's not over yet, you never know, she might still pull it out of the hat. LOL Yes, she's probably feeling vulnerable, but only because she no longer has anymore immediate allies, other than the one she's trying to force with Jessica now. Feeling played? I don't see how, but maybe outplayed; although that would mean she would of had to have been playing the game in the first place, which she hasn't been all this time. What I think she could have done differently is be more open-minded, less judgemental, & less self-righteous. No, I don't think her devotion to the LNC was her downfall, I think her close-mindedness & shunning of people had a lot to do with it (since she wants to be a Christian example, this is not what a desciple does, Jesus didn't), along with her lack of playing the game. What I don't get is if she feels everything in this game is pre-determined, then why is she there? The Bible says that "faith without works is dead," meaning faith alone doesn't just bring about the result you want, you have to put in some work to get it & get there. "A man that does not work, does not eat," also another scripture I'm guessing she knows, so I don't understand her lack of game play. Laziness begets nothing; doing nothing begets nothing. Just signing up to play the game isn't necessarily enough, it doesn't start & stop there, I'd think she'd know that. LOL Marameko, too funny!
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Govols
Member
07-19-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 12:28 am
Putting all of her eggs in one basket and hiding behind others via Manipulating. Calling it loyalty when it was stupidity. Being judgemental of others and missing opportunities to position herself better. She hasn't been able to accept Zach since the beginning. What happened to "Love one another". Sometime back, he thanked her for being an influence on renewing his Faith. She just puffed up and thought how wonderful she was rather than using that to her advantage. She has been so fake. It annoys me to death. Can't wait for her to go next week...still hoping Eric gets evicted this week.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 4:46 am
Costa,Lara so glad to have made you smile <>
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Bicbicz911
Member
08-20-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:22 pm
She could go off the deep end and start calling all her housemates (except Jessica) M.F. Oh wait, she did that this morning!
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