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Llb
Member
08-22-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:08 am
Thx Loppes
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Cheekychops
Member
08-12-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:08 am
Thanks Seamonkey. I paused the Showtime feed to read the letter from home to see if there was a mention. (that didn't work out too well - ha!)
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:09 am
Lib, Amber made some anti semitic comments about Jews and especially New York Jews and it hit Associated Press and other media outlets and so they withheld her from any interviews because they said it wouldn't be fair to expect the press to ignore that topic but they couldn't allow it to mess with the game. CBS and Allison have issued apologies and Amber's sister tried to make it ok in an interview, but it isn't.
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Jbw
Member
08-14-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:13 am
Amber was also laughing when Dustin told her about his "pet name" for his dog. She also found it funny that her dog hated black people too.
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Llb
Member
08-22-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:14 am
Thx Sea. I just read an article about it. CBS claims they feel reporter's questions might influence the outcome of the game. That doesn't make sense since none of the HG's get to see the interview anyway, so no one would be influenced. And Amber isn't inline to win so America won't be voting for her thru Eric either. Well, it's probably just as well for her sanity and wellbeing. She might break down if she discovered the focus of her time in the house has been on her anti-semitic remarks.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:15 am
I just read Zach's blog I liked it.
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:16 am
Llb....I have read press releases from a lot of different sources and the conclusion I have drawn is that CBS was tired of answering questions from all over the country. Many news reporters were SERIOUSLY questioning how Dick Donato was not kicked off of BB for what he did to Jen....and that was included in the questions that she was asked in all of her interviews....and CBS took a lot of "heat" on why they were so lenient on Dick and not lenient on Jen, and the guy kicked out one year for beeing angry enough to fling a chair....etc.... Even FOX News and CNN had stuff on their shows and websites..... And THEN, when Amber's anti-Semitic (Jewish) comments went all over the internet from the live feeds.....her picture was also on Fox News and CNN etc. and there were news anchors debating prejudice in America, etc..... I think CBS didn't want to deal with anymore questions....so CBS released a press release to ALL of the news organizations that Amber could NOT be asked about her anti-Jewish statements, and then the AP released a press release saying that if they couldn't exercise "free speech" laws and ask anything they wanted...then they REFUSED to interview any more BB contestants....LMAO!!! Next thing you know....Amber and all the rest of the HG interviews and House Calls were cancelled....(big brouhaha over nothing IMHO!)
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Llb
Member
08-22-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:18 am
Caycaye, thanks. I'm actually glad to hear that CBS is getting flak over the atrocious behavior of some of the HG's and their complacency in allowing it. It isn't just me who thinks it's unacceptable, game or no game.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:21 am
Lib, I agree! I think the REAL reason is that they don't want reporters to spill the beans about America's Player.. it is rumored that a reporter did slip to Dustin about AP, but still they let Jen have interviews but then cut it off with Amber. and it would be dicey of they revealed AP with Jess and Eric in an interview.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:22 am
Cay, yes.......and the california chapter of NOW has taken on the cause against Dick and the derogatory comments he made toward Jen. They are pretty powerful, So I think CBS/BB saw potential lawsuits on the horizon, or at least threats. Actually I wouldn't be surprised even after the show ends and Jen is out of the Jury House, if some lawyer in California would be more than willing to take on a case on her behalf against Dick for defamation of character. Jen works as a model (yes I know she nanny's too - albeit she has a degree for that), but the way Dick aggressively went after her and still continues to, could be damaging to her career in that field.
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Llb
Member
08-22-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:24 am
Sounds about right, Sea. Except now that Eric isn't in line to win, it doesn't really matter who in sequester knows he was AP or not. Well, except possibly Jessica who may storm out of the sequester house in a huge huff. lol
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:14 am
Morning all! Nodded off fairly early (lol the show wore me out I think lol). What twilight BB zone did I wake up into? Jameka after 3 months decided to meet Dick and Danielle?? And when was Zach trashing D/D as I read a comment about?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:17 am
I still think.. I mean all the HG observed the Jen and Dick stuff but only Jameka heard the antisemitic stuff and Dustin the dog name and then AP of course is a huge secret that they want to keep from the HG until Allison decides to reveal.. after all she wants them on camera so their reactions are available for her production.
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Jbw
Member
08-14-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:17 am
Actually I wouldn't be surprised even after the show ends and Jen is out of the Jury House, if some lawyer in California would be more than willing to take on a case on her behalf against Dick for defamation of character. Remember the Susan Hawk / Richard Hatch brouhaha in Survivor: All-Stars and Sue Hawk's threat to sue? I bet their CBS contract includes a clause waiving their rights to sue CBS, sponsors, production companies, their employees, and fellow houseguests for defamation of character and slander. Jen works as a model (yes I know she nanny's too - albeit she has a degree for that), Jen doesn't have a college degree. She didn't graduate from college. Her myspace.com website lists "some college" as her education experience.
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Cheekychops
Member
08-12-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:17 am
I think Zack was bashing them to secure her jury vote if he makes it to F2. There is no way he's taking her to F2. He knows he can't beat her with who is in the jury. Jury = all of Jameka's mates.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:25 am
OMG just read Joker's highlights. Zach promised Jameka that her key would be in the box??? He's going to put up D/D?? So Jameka who swore will now lie to them eh? Not to mention Z doing it. So not one person in that house who won't stab in the back. Good grief. If Jam/Zach are F2 I will barf. That to me will be as good as that last few 'winners.' BLECH. Scary is that if Dick wins Veto hope he doesn't use it on Dani again.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:26 am
Lurk, let's see if I can summarize. Zach now tells Jameka that he wants her to F2 and doesn't mind if he is second place (exactly what he said to Dani last week and Dick) He said all the same things to her he said to them, except now he's trashing them and loving her. But he added a new element of talking religion and how relgious he is. He says he will put up Dick and Dani, he wants Jameka to play all out and get POV and keep nominations the same and vote Dani out. Lots of butting up type stuff which tells us he really wants her to do that dirty work with Dani but then he expects her to be on the jury. He admires her for making it after losing the 5 hohs OH and then he pulled the same think he pulled early in the seaon with Mike and with Nick, he said, well basically if she was to win, he'd like money. Well we got trivia over that, then he was called into the DR and when he came out he pulled Jameka aside and apologized profusely about those comments and rescinded that and he also added that she would be in trouble if she talked about what he said (so she isn't allowed to tell Dick, Dani or those in the jury house about him wanting money. And yes, Dani did notice him pulling Jameka into the workout room after he came out of the DR the first time and she's talked to Dick so they are aware that they will probably both be on the block and must win pov. And Zach has gloated to Jameka that Dick and Dani know. He also tells Jameka that he personally was the one who planned to keep her and evict Jess.. .lol
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:30 am
Lurk, you can only use the veto on yourself but at F4 all it matters is being the veto holder. Veto holder decides who is going home. So Dick OR Dani must get pov in order for them to send Jameka home. Cheeky I agree, he plans to use Jameka to get rid of Dani but then he seems confident that he will be in power to put Jameka out (or he expects that Dick would do that. He also made a play to Jameka for her to take HIM to F2, so that would cover the base if she was to win hoh at F3.
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Cheekychops
Member
08-12-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:35 am
Seamonkey, yeah, he's playing this well. His strategy is good. He'll probably convince D/D that he wants to backdoor Jam (which is what he probably wants to do eventually).
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:35 am
TY Sea And duh of course w/Veto (haven't made coffee yet deciding if I want to sleep another hour or get an early start here lol. After your first post I'm remember the Zach who thought he was the Godfather lol. Glad the DR called him out on it. Now I REALLY don't want him to win. Wonder what Jam thought of this and his newfound religion lolol Funny I've just gone from not loving a D/D final2 to wanting it very badly!
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Lynn
Member
07-27-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:40 am
Dick and Daniele have the best chance at winning veto. Zack will not try for it and Jameka is terrible at comps.
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Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:45 am
I bet their CBS contract includes a clause waiving their rights to sue CBS, sponsors, production companies, their employees, and fellow houseguests for defamation of character and slander. I admit I know nothing about the law but I do know that in all skydiving contracts that "you waive your right to sue" but dropzones still get sued and some cases have been won against them.
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Anneph
Member
06-15-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:45 am
Dick or Dani have to win veto. That will guarantee Jameka leaving - Zach will have no say and then he will have to reckon with D/D for betraying them. Wonder if his new found bravado will stand up to that.
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Jbw
Member
08-14-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:47 am
If Zach puts up D/D tomorrow it's a bonehead move. It doesn't matter one bit who is nominated tomorrow. It only warns them that they must win the POV contest and they can't throw it to Zach. The only thing that really matters now is winning POV. That will determine who goes home. If D/D are nominated and one of D/D win the veto. Jameka goes home. Period. End of Story. If Jameka wins POV, one of D/D goes home. Period. End of Story. If that happened and Zach nominated J and one of the Donatos, there would be no blood on his hands. The Donatos would have never known he turned on them. Now by nominating both Donatos, he reveals his plan. If Zach nominated J and only one of the Ds, his deception would only be revealed if he wins the POV. Then he could have taken Jameka off the block and J could send Dani home. Why expose yourself to four days (or more if the Donatos win the POV) of the wrath of the Ds, when it's not necessary.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:54 am
There is no backdoor and they know it. But really all that matters is getting pov this time. I think he thinks the risk of keeping Jam is less than trying to compete with Dani, even though he's beaten her three times recently, Keeping Dani and beating her and Dick at F3 might by him enough respect to seal a win against one of them. If Jameka is the one to boot Daniele I think Jameka finally gets that respect and of course she has people who like her already, just looking for that reason to give her the win. So Zach is taking more of a risk than he thinks. === I do think CBS has some depth of experience with reality show contracts.. 8 seasons of Big Brother, how many of Survivor, and TAR, not to mention Endemol having vast experience with BB world wide .. and CBS has a whole legal team.
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