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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 2:35 pm
I agree with Jen. Zack and Jam's code is not cheating. What they are doing is perfectly legitimate strategy. Getting information from outside the house from someone who is not in the game by a secret code set up in advance is cheating. In other words, it isn't code per se, it's getting outside info that is the cheat.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 2:37 pm
I don't think anyone is saying that, Stacey, but Dick is the first to admit to it.
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 2:38 pm
And to talk about it repeatedly.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 2:39 pm
Yep I am impressed with Eric's bro. To be fair here is HIS post. "I'm impressed you guys got it through. I had to alter/remove two completely innocuous sections in early draft HOH letters I sent which had absolutely no code (it was just a series of bizarre in-joke quotes that he'd find funny) b/c BB was convinced there had to be more to it even though there wasn't. And I would have seriously considered attempting it but Eric made me swear I wouldn't - not b/c of integrity - but b/c he was afraid he'd spend the next week reading things into the letter that weren't there and psyching himself out. Anyhows, hope to knock back a shot with you at the finale." They seem ok with it, it is what it is.
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 2:44 pm
but Milosmom - that post does show that BB did scrutinize letters to make sure there was no code - so they didn't want the player to get any info from the outside Dick & his son circumvented that - and made a mockery of the whole thing
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Tobor7
Member
07-19-2002
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 2:44 pm
Once again BB is foiled by the flaws in their own rules. The rules are not clear. The rules are not evenly enforced. They should just do away with the letters from home totally. As well as the pictures and everything. If they keep the pics, there could be a secret message in there as well. (What color shirt the person is wearing means something, etc.) NO CONTACT WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLD. That includes guest visitors. In fact they should do away with the DR as well. That way a rogue producer can't skew things. Or the questions should be in written form and the SAME questions given to all players. No coaching with the answers. We get nothing from the DR anymore anyway.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 2:45 pm
I think it's very clear that hidden messages are prohibited or they wouldn't be sending letters back for revision. JMO.
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 2:45 pm
In the words of Dick's own son: "He seriously cannot keep his damn mouth closed."
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 2:48 pm
All I meant Tvwatcher that Eric didn't have a problem with Senor sneaking a coded letter in, he just didn't want to be confused looking for a code. Anyway, Senor and Vince will get along great at the finale. I am impressed with them both.
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 2:58 pm
Yes, but it's still against the rules. As BB tried to enforce with a letter that didn't contain a code, and that Eric never even had a chance to get. Vince and Dick cheated. Are there reprocussions, that's what this thread is about.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 3:09 pm
I am shocked that both Dick and son admit to it! Isnt that enough to at least get a penalty nom? It was a clever idea but geez keep your mouth shut!
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 3:20 pm
I just sent this to CBS via their "feedback" link under the subject of "Big Brother": --------------------- Dick admitted and bragged about CHEATING in the game with a secret-coded letter from his son, Vincent. Vincent himself confirmed the fact that he sent Dick an HOH letter with a secret code. It's time to DO THE RIGHT THING and punish Dick for breaking the rules just as you punished Jen for breaking the rules......UNLESS this BB season is actually "fixed" like it increasingly appears to be! ************** http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/4866/t/Dicks-son-Danieles-brother-Running---people--root--.html?page=221 "Vactory" is his son at the bottom of the page: "I will just say that he doesnt have the code quite right and from what I have read hear and in myspace messages, he missed more than half of the message Honestly I cant believe he even brought it up... he must be feeling either very confident or very bored. He seriously can not keep his damn mouth closed. I miss the live feeds" ***************** Dick MUST get a penalty vote for this cheating and for his breaking the rules. It is actually WORSE than Jen eating while on slop because eating food did not compromise the integrity of the game, what little integrity there is left of it.
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Tigger
Member
08-28-2006
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 3:23 pm
I get that it's not "playing by the rules"; don't know how the PTB will look at it. I don't agree with what they did but in terms of game I don't see that this letter has changed anything. If the code was in a previous letter then maybe but at this point it is very clear Jameka and Zach against Dani and Dick. Dick didn't need Vincent to clue him into that.
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Landslide305
Member
08-15-2005
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 3:27 pm
I think some people take this game way too seriously. It's not affecting us personally so why are some people so up in arms about it? I thought Nick and Dani planned for him to send her a coded message, too? Obviously, BB must have heard that and did nothing to stop it. Also, Beau and Janie got into a hitting match and nothing was done to them. It seems like BB makes up their own rules as they go along and choose whether or not to enforce them. It's their show and I guess they have their own agenda. I could care less what they do, I'm here to be entertained for the summer and I know that at the end, I'm not getting a dime.
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 3:28 pm
I am hoping that AG doesn't want to crown a BB winner that bragged how he went into the house with a premeditated plan to cheat in the way of coded letters. If she doesn't have a problem with that, well then, bless her heart 
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 3:30 pm
Since we don't have a copy of the rule book, don't see how we can prove anything at all.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 3:32 pm
Sanfran 
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Ddfan
Member
08-04-2007
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 3:35 pm
A good book to read: DON'T SWEAT THE SMALL STUFF! How does this even concern any of us... it is what it is ... people get so over welmed and over worked over the smallest stuff ... it is a TV show .... doesn't affect any of us one way or the other. sit back and watch the show as the entertainment it is intended to be. JMO
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 3:35 pm
LOL Kale, left to take a nap and came back to the exact same discussion... DON'T SWEAT THE SMALL STUFF! My favorite saying..I also add George Carlin's addition: AND DON'T PET THE SWEATY STUFF!!
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 3:38 pm
Ddfan - using pine tar on a baseball bat in MLB doesn't affect me one way or the other either - but it's against the rules. My point being - just because something doesn't affect you personally doesn't make it any less wrong.
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 3:38 pm
I thought this post was discussing the coded letter, not book recs and not sleeping habits. Sanfran, I appreciate your writing in. I hope others do as well to allow the show to realize that we know they cheated. It's funny that they both admitted to it, because when Vince started posting he said he was told specifically what he could and could not say on the message boards. Eric's brother's letter was edited and had no code. So, we know that codes or secret messages are not allowed.
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 3:43 pm
Jen - another poster told Vincent he should delete that post so that there is no proof that he was in on it if this was not wrong, why worry about leaving the proof "out there".
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