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Jameka's Opinion of White People?

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Loppes
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07-12-2002

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
Dbald great post!

I think it depends on the person's individual personality. Eric seems to deal with his ethnic background, by making jokes and laughing about it - sort of like the "Chris Rock" of being Jewish, whereas, Jameka takes hers more seriously, because even though she laughs, she doesn't have quite the humor level that Eric does.
I don't think either way is a "right or wrong". I just found it interesting the way the two of them both coming from different ancestral history, deal with that type of stuff. Marcellus, Dani, Martin,,Mega, all dealt with their participation in BB differently.

I agree with Kimsue, that I don't think race is an issue on the cast we all see. It seems pretty mixed up in there, with Italians, Jewish, Black, Turkish, (don't know what Jessica's background is), etc. )

Anyways I thought this was an interesting folder for discussion, and its nice to see the topic talked about in a civil way.

Nick
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07-31-2004

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
well i'm white and grew up in an all black ghetto - and it wasn't a project - it was a ghetto.. and believe me.. i was heavily discriminated against.. beat up.. unable to fit in.. i was the only white person in the school.. so the grass isn't any different.. and when i did get into "white" surroundings i wasn't immediately accepted because of my skin color.. i didn't fit in ...

also.. i find it (and yes this is a rant so blow me away if you want to) interesting that all "white" people are lumped together as something rather generic - white people come from all different cultures and different religions and different ethnicities.. i'm tired of being called "white" when i have to name the heritage of every other "race" and not call them by their skin color.. call me a european american then if you want .. or whatever...

and as for eubonics.. SOME (emphasis so as not to stereotype) african american people use the terms and then strike out when they're used back saying it's offensive.. well geez.. i grew up in a black neighborhood so even then i can't use the phrase because my skin is white?

pulease..

steps down.. i'm sorry for the rant but sometimes this gets under my skin..

we won't even get into my bisexuality/boyfriend partner and where that fits into the world..

and then of course my christian values..

~just goes crawl under a rock to hide~

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
All black people tend to get lumped together too. Personally I say black due to keystrokes <shrug>.

Nick
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07-31-2004

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
and oh yeah.. jumps back up on his soapbox..

gays were singled out in the holocaust too for extinction... but it's not politically polite to remind people of that cause it's only a "jewish" thing..

ok i've said enough and will probably just be knocked off the board but for some reason i'm definitely in a rant mood today..

shuts up and crawls back under his rock

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
there is no such thing as reverse discrimination. discrimination is discrimination not matter what the sex, religion, race or ethnic backround.

Upstate
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02-11-2007

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Upstate a private message Print Post    
Nick you bring up some good points. I find it impossible to have an honest discussion on race. In the day and age of pc if you don't walk the perverbial line you are branded a racist.
I used to fall into the pit fall of having to discuss race with my good friends of color. then we said bs we're past that. lets talk about the neighbors! no matter what color they are or aren't!!!! LOL

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
<tosses a rope to nick>

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
for the thread title, 'jamekas opinion on white people' well, i have never heard/read her say anything negative about white people. only that she has never been around white people for a long period of time. that is not a bad thing. if i were to be in the house with me being the only white person, i would be a bit overwhelmed myself. not in a bad way, more like a fish out of water. in time i would stop viewing myself as the only white person and would be just another person in the house.

Nick
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07-31-2004

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
if i were in the house with all french (substitute any other alike group of people who are different from me) people (whom i've never been around in a confined setting for a long period of time) i would probably feel a bit overwhelmed and uncomfortable.. until i got to know them... hehs...

Dbald
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08-04-2007

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dbald a private message Print Post    
Nick...how bout you and I head back to the lounge we were so happy there the other day and you seem to be in a huge need for an adult beverage...

Nick
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07-31-2004

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
garumps and grumbles but heads back to the lounge with dbald.. takes his rock with him just in case..

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 4:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
((((((Nick))))))

I am as emotional as you are about these topics... and btw, I'm Jewish, and I ALWAYS remember that 12 million people were murdered by the Nazis... not just 6 million Jews. Gypsy's,Gays, the Handicapped, etc, were included too. I always thought it was oddball that Hitler touted strapping Nordic-looking blonds as the perfect specimen when he was such a squirrelly dark-haired little putz himself. The ultimate hateful, destructive wannabe.

ETA - on topic - I've never heard Jam say anything anti-caucasian either, but I do think that if the hamsters are the group she's gonna base her opinions on, yikes!

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 4:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Sunshyne4u stated:
i still think that comment may have been a coached one.

I think so too. BB just wanted a grabber statement. I really haven't heard Jameka give an opinion on white people. Whomever she's lived around all her life must have been very decent, kind people, because she is one of the classiest people in the whole house this year. If there is any way she can win this thing, I hope it happens.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 4:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
I am as emotional as you are about these topics... and btw, I'm Jewish, and I ALWAYS remember that 12 million people were murdered by the Nazis... not just 6 million Jews. Gypsy's, the handicapped, etc, were included too. I always thought it was oddball that Hitler touted strapping Nordic-looking blonds as the perfect specimen when he was such a squirrelly dark-haired little putz himself. The ultimate hateful, destructive wannabe.

Yep. Hitler, Goebels, Goering, etc. all ideal "Aryans".

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Nick, you have a very interesting background and sounds like a hard-scrabble upbringing. Nobody here is going to pick a fight with you over that. Or, at least, I don't think so.

When Jameka originally made the remark I took it to be (and still do) a race-neutral remark, just a comment on something out of the ordinary for her. Like, "oh, I've never worn Earth shoes before" or "I've never lived at the beach before" or "I've never spent the summer in Los Angeles before."

I don't think anybody is accusing Jameka of being any kind of racist, just that she is having an experience that probably is doubly unusual for her.

I think she is doing doggone well holding her own with the group.

Trekkie
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07-09-2005

Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trekkie a private message Print Post    
I found it interesting that Jameka has not been around white people. I don't find it strange, I just find it interesting. I had never met a person of another race until I went to college. There was nothing against them, there just weren't any in the rural area where I grew up. Then I went to college and shared an apartment with a black guy. So in my case it was just lack of exposure.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Jameka just addressed this in the last half hour or so on the feeds.. Hopefully someone will youtube the convo.

She told Zach she has never been with caucasians in situations where she isn't in the majority and she really did wonder how this would be, in the house, being the only one of her race.

And she said they kept asking her about it in the DR and she told them "there is no difference" and they kept bugging her and she says no.. there is no difference, people are people.

Jameka said she's always heard that but couldn't verify it without the experience.

It was nice hearing her talk.

Here she is, going out and she is just talking to everyone, finding out so much, processing and really being the Jameka I put as #1 on my list before the show started.

She's sad, of course, even sad for the producer who casted her but she's taking so much away from this.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Oh and she also said you know we sit and watch white people on tv and how they are portrayed and white people watch black people on tv and how they are portrayed. ..

I think she was saying that really living with people she could see them as individuals.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Aww, I have always felt that Jameka was a fair person. I know she has her faith and that makes her a strong person who will be just fine. I wish her the best.

Tracy
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07-16-2007

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tracy a private message Print Post    
I thought that Jameka said that she had never LIVED with White people before. I could be remembering wrong. If I'm right though, that wouldn't be surprising, one assumes that her family is Black...however I think that her comment was coached.
I think that she's been faithful to her beliefs on the show and that cannot be easy, also she's done nothing that the kids that she counsels can throw up in her teeth.
I was deeply offended when Dick ridiculed J's prayers and beliefs, not because I'm a holy person or anything, it's just that it was rude and cruel.
I also don't like the way he patronizes her.