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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:02 pm
Beyond rude how some came to her site to bash her, there are plenty of other places to do it. And for those who thought Janie promised to bash eric in the jokers shout box, she didn't. I saw a cap of her comments and it just wasn't there.
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:03 pm
So what? The cameras are on them -- what difference would it make unless you believe that BB would let them talk game. NOT. We can all see just fine.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:06 pm
Who ever called Janelle's mom was beyond wrong and on the scary side! Even if all the things Dani said were true, her mom is not responsible for Janelle's actions. For me, it's not a matter of whether Janelle is lying or not. There were things that were said over the feeds that caused concern for some viewers (and not necessarily Eric fans). IMO, Janelle's response was like killing the messenger instead of the source. Dick and Dani's version of what happened was significantly, if not completely, different than Janelle's. Dani made it sound like Janelle hugged her, told her 153 and that she liked her bandana, (all things related to Nick), plus Dani said Janelle hates Eric. For whatever reason, Dani took it as message from Janelle (as did some of the viewers) and was thinking about using the veto to evict Eric. Perhaps Dani fabricated what happened and was trying to use it as an excuse to turn on her alliance, but there is no way for the viewers to know that. I just think she should be mad at the source and not the viewers. JMO. One important thing to point out, IMO, is that Dick/Dani said Eric apologized to Janelle for being an and she said it's okay, but then went over to Dick and said it wasn't. If Eric did apologize, I feel Janelle should have mentioned that in her response. Sadly, Eric is not the only houseguest that has mentioned Janelle's eating/weight this year and especially in other seasons (not that, that makes it okay). It's a terrible thing for anyone to say, period! Eric didn't know Janelle was there and got caught. I don't think he would have intentionally hurt Janelle's feelings like that, but that's JMO. She didn't like him anyway and that just made it worse. IMHO, BB should have limited her interaction with the other houseguests or chose a more reserved host, especially knowing she has publicly expressed strong opinions about who she wants to win and who she does not. People even thought and some still think she was behind the banner b/c of things she said in her chats! Before Janelle even mentioned her dislike for Eric on HCs, it was obvious by her reactions. Just sayin'. It probably wasn't that hard for people to pick up on. Amazingly, some people even find validation for hating Eric and liking Dick through Janelle b/c of her popularity. I really liked Janelle and was rooting for her in both her seasons. I do not dislike her now b/c she likes someone I don't or b/c she hates someone that I don't. What caught me off guard was Janelle saying "screw you" to viewers who had concerns with things Dick/Dani were saying about her. Hopefully this makes sense. As always, JMO. sorry for the book
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:09 pm
Ok, how is any reference to Nick a sign to get rid of Eric? I am not sure how to read that from those comments?
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:12 pm
Shop, idk...that's a question better suited for Dani I believe.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:12 pm
also, telling Dick and Dick that she was GLad how he got rid of Jen. Plenty of Stuff was said. Not little harmless one-liners done in passing.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:12 pm
Janie is tired of being misunderstood and all the sponsor remarks from Eric fans at jokers shout box didn't help. I don't think she meant all Eric fans, just those over there that hated on her yesterday and today.
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Bicbicz911
Member
08-20-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:12 pm
I think Dani is letting her imagination carry her away. She is reading way too much into the small exchanges she had with Janelle. She tends to do that. Very emotional girl.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:17 pm
Milo, I would imagine she is, but personally I feel she shouldn't be in the public view so often if she doesn't want to be criticized. If she hadn't expressed her dislike for Eric so much, people would probably be less likely to believe it, IMO.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:19 pm
Bic, ITA. That is probably what is causing all the controversy, IMO.
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:25 pm
Sorry guys, maybe I am just not reading as much into it as others... all I can see are fans of the show BB who got to meet one of their fav contestants and very very casual convo.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:27 pm
I think it's disingenuous to suggest that any criticism is coming from those who have disliked Janie in the past. Personally, she was my favorite in both her seasons, but this was just wrong. Her defensive reply even moreso. I blame BB as much as her for her interactions, but her response is all hers.
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Bicbicz911
Member
08-20-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:27 pm
Don't want to reopen that whole debate again, however the difference between Janelle and Jen: Jen was a houseguest and subject to mental abuse as a part of the game. Janelle was a special guest. Eric did not know she was there. They are all big boys and girls, and if they can dish it out, they can take it too. So at the end of the day (my homage to Will) it's just sticks and stones, no bones broken.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:28 pm
Klaw, I don't see why Janie can't be a fan of the show and say what she likes. Not everyone agrees with her but we don't bash her for her beliefs.
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Messalina
Member
06-19-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:30 pm
I don't blame Janelle for talking with the HGs and I don't blame the HGs for talking with her. I do think BB is wrong for allowing interaction with outsiders any where at any time. They put blindfolds and headphones on HGs whenever they go outside for something they've won such as the POT trip. Why bother with all that if they allow them to converse with people? I don't think Janelle would have been able to sway anyone's vote one way or the other in the short time she was with them. It's the principle of "no outside contact" that BB announces each season when the show starts that is being broken. They don't practice what they preach when they allow conversations however short. But, I've said this before haven't I? I'll shut up about it now. 
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:30 pm
Erics own words on the subject: Eric states that he needs to make sure if he sees a past season's houseguest picture before a POV that he should not make negative comments about the person.
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Moderator
Moderator
06-30-2002
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:30 pm
Please keep the comments about the issue and not about other posters. Thanks! 
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:31 pm
Flamingo, I was a huge Janelle fan and it still bothered me hearing everything Dani was saying last night b/c I want to see Eric make it to the F4 with Jessica, Dick, and Dani. I wonder what made Dani think Janelle was cheering her, Dick, and Zach on the most and not Eric. It will be interesting to see if the other houseguests were even outside when someone was competing.
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Bbcole
Member
08-27-2007
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:35 pm
I think in Janelle's mind, it did play out exactly as she says. But these houseguests are reading into every thing (which makes us read into it). I did not imagine Dani's reaction nor what she was saying to Dick after the POV comp. Not Janelle's fault, just the way it came out. Dani said last night in regards to Janelle's comments to her, "It's the same as when I left the house w/ Amber, you're not told things but comments definitely get you thinking."
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:35 pm
Dani just asked that herself and saying "wonder why Jani loves me" ummm... because she told Janie she was awesome is my take on it. However given how Dani is even pondering that herself leads me to believe that no comments were leading and they are still speculating on how America is taking them.
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Flamingo
Member
08-19-2003
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:35 pm
i certainly don't see anything defensive in Janelle's post. I see someone who is shocked and upset that some posters were accusing her of things that she didn't like or agree with.
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:37 pm
I agree Bbcole... there is ZERO interaction so when someone is there, say like the POT, then they do and are gauging every reaction or comment to them. yes, they were blindfolded on the power of 10, however Michael talked to them pre-show and they read into his comments... Amber even read into Drew Carey and the audience clapping. I mean, when you are cut off from everyone/everything I am sure you will do that. I think these were all innocent, gracioius compliments that are now being scrutinized to the nth degree. It was a no win situation for janie... either be rude and say nothing however BB told her to make this fun or just smile, be herself and say "gee you smell good" and let us all scrutinize it.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:39 pm
Milo: I believe Janelle can and should express her opinions if that is what she wants to do. I wasn't saying that at all. I am just saying if she is going to do that, she should expect people to disagree with her and have their own opinions about what she is saying. I don't think Janelle should be treated any different than other poster on boards. Just b/c I disagree with some of the things she said means that I am a Janelle hater/basher. JMO.
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:46 pm
I just think it is sad that something that most of us were looking forward to and that was supposed to be fun has turned into this kind of controversy and speculation.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:47 pm
I agree that it is a shame that something that was supposed to be fun, turned into something controversial. When you appear on these shows as a hg or a former hg doing a competition, you expose yourself to public scrutiny. It's all part of the deal. I like Janelle. I do find it a bit ironic though that she is upset with Eric's comments about her but is a declared fan of Dick after the comments that he has made about Jen and Kail. I guess it all depends on who is making the comments and whom they are making the comments about.
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