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Dfennessey
Member
07-25-2004
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 12:28 pm
okay I have a question, if Zach puts up Danielle and Jameka, Dicks wins POV takes off his daughter, who goes up?
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 12:33 pm
why would dick use the pov? he has the only vote, so he'd just vote out jameka
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Scribe
Member
08-16-2000
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 12:33 pm
am sure that Z wants J to go with him as F2 - he has always said he will be OK with second place and letting J get first place would be "playing with integrity" per the letter from his father. J word is just so so - she wont win anything - Z will put up DD and one will eb voted out with or without POV - then J and Z will play together .... I want DD to win but came to terms last night with the reality of Z and J winning.
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 12:34 pm
If the person that wins the POV is not nominated there is no need to use the POV, they are the only one that can vote anyway. Oh and I don't buy the whole AG is fixing the game theory.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 12:35 pm
Dick goes up. (Special rules this week) But why would he take off Dani? He has the only eviction vote. He simply does not use the veto and then votes out Jamecka. Voila! The only time it makes sense to use the veto this week is if you are one of the nominees.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 12:56 pm
I'd rather see D/D in final two. How they got there.. each of the four has escaped eviction, Dick and Dani have played hard and saved themselves at times, Zach has bloomed late but wouldn't have been there to bloom if hed been seen as a threat, so he did coast for a long time and Jameka is still coasting at this point. But whoever gets to F2, is there, and all the woulda coulda shoulda doesn't matter. Going forward from today: It doesn't matter who Zach nominates, but by nominating Dick and Dani as he has promised Jameka he will do, he MAY ensure that Jameka would take him to F2, but he's making it more likely that Dick or Dani, left alone might now decide to take Jameka to F2 out of anger (and also by the symbolic gesture of putting them both up, even though it makes no difference in outcome, he probably ensures that he won't get their jury votes if he sits with Jameka). Personally, I think Jameka can take anyone she wants to F2, should that be her choice, and she'll win, not because she's a good person, or because her season long game play merits it but simply because the jury is heavily stacked in her favor. And I think Zach will be the on taken to F2 by a remaining Donato or Jameka. The actual nomination matters not at all logically, but matters psychologically. Of course the winner of POV chooses who goes, not the nominations. Bottom line I have no idea who will be in F2, but Zach is correct, if a Donato wins POV and both stay then he'll only go to F2 if he wins final HOH. If a Donato goes home then he's probably a lock for F2, while Jameka only goes to F2 if she wins, same with the remaining Donato. But the jury. If Zach could have played convincingly that he is still in solid with the Donatos, then even if both got sent home BY Jameka.. Jameka wins POV, sends Dani home, Jameka wins HOH or Zach throws it to her, and she sends Dick home.. then there would be a chance for Zach to win, slim but if both Donatos were on the jury and on Zach's side, I think Jen would also lean to Zach and they need only one defection. By pissing off the Donatos, Zach has NO chance of winning over Jameka.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 2:00 pm
True, but it's pretty easy to piss the Donatos off. LOL, I still love em though.
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Streetsmart
Member
08-06-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 2:18 pm
Hopefully its a Zach & Jameka final 2. That was the most pathetic display of poor sportsmanship i have EVER seen from Dani yesterday. Her nonsense about " Its only strategic" and then when she doesnt have any power she goes crying again. I cant wait to see a Donato leave
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 2:40 pm
a zach & jameka F2 would be a pretty big game upset - hopefully AG is all for game upsets 
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Ddfan
Member
08-04-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 2:46 pm
DICK AND DANI FOR F2!!!!!!! GO DICK! GO DANI!
  
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Cheekychops
Member
08-12-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 2:51 pm
BB told Dani that the only thing the POV winner can do on Tuesday is take someone off the block or themselves. Doesn't sound like the golden veto will be played.
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Wavelength
Member
07-25-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:00 pm
I'm trying to understand the D/d love. <77> That being said, I think Zach has been playing the whole time just like Will did. Never winning anything, just hanging out making no trouble. Of course the difference is when it counts Zach wins things!! How is that not playing? Go Zach! <77>
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Inkydinkydoo
Member
07-25-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:08 pm
I thought Jameka told [Eric?], the other day, that the DR said at F4 they cannot use the veto on anyone but themselves. For example, if D&D are both on the block and Dick wins POV, he cannot use it on Dani. Right?
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Slinkydog
Member
11-30-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:54 pm
What I don't understand is why Dick and Daniele are so mad at Zach because they think he will put them both up. It only matters who wins the veto, not who gets put up.
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Slinkydog
Member
11-30-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:01 pm
I think it makes perfect sense that Zach turn on Dick and Daniele now. He is as far as he will go if the choice is theirs, so he is not hurting himself by making them mad. Also, if one of them does win POV and Jameka goes to the jury, she is going to now campaign for Zach to win. Perhaps she can turn the votes that would have been hers into Zach votes. Smart guy!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:06 pm
I don't understand that either Slinky. It makes absolutely no difference who Zach nominates.
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Neosporen
Member
08-18-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:24 pm
InkyDinky....wouldn't matter if he or Dani came off, they would have the ONLY vote and Jameka would go regardless
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 5:43 pm
I think it does make a difference -- IF he's the one to win POV and leaves his noms the same. In that case I'd like to see Dani and Jam on the block. Then Dick votes out Jam. That's a big difference. Now, it sounds like that is not his intention, but if he felt no bias over who went home, it would matter who got nominated if the HOH also got the POV. If anyone else gets the POV, then no, it doesn't matter at all.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 5:44 pm
Did you see Daniele in the HOH with Zach making him feel guilty when telling her: MY DAD HAD YOUR BACK since Week 2!! How convenient to tell Zach he stayed because of D/D... when in fact they were busy forming their own alliances with everyone BUT Zach in the beginning. Zach stood up pretty well to her tactic: He told her that for over a month he played chess all by himself because the others shunned him... Anyway, I saw a not so nice side of Daniele and that's enough for me.
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2addicted
Member
07-17-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 5:59 pm
What day is the actual comp? Thanks in advance !
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:13 pm
The VETO COMP is tomorrow, Saturday, it could be a long one, physical or it could be a 'strategic' one... solving puzzles, etc. if it's at night it will involve laser lights, who knows, maybe a nice display of lights. It will be shown on Sunday.
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Slinkydog
Member
11-30-2005
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 7:41 am
I thought Julie said that Tuesday would be a live veto and eviction. They have the HOH to show and noms to show on Sunday. Maybe I misunderstood.
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Danslulu
Member
09-13-2005
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 7:46 am
On Tuesday, it will be a live veto ceremony; the veto is probably going to be played today. Go Donatos!!
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Dfng
Member
08-04-2005
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 7:51 am
What I don't understand is Zach's game play. Why put up Donato's now. Would it not have made more sense to just put up Jameka and Dani and let Jameka know that he was rooting for her to get POV. Why take the chance of pissing off another jury member. It's like he thinks he is making this great game play by putting them both up and it was symbolism at best since the POV is the power. Shaking my head, it just doesn't make sense and because of that I hope Zach doesn't win.
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Scribe
Member
08-16-2000
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 7:56 am
Go Donnatos but I think if it is stramina or strength that Z unfortunately will take it .... hope BB doesnt want Z and goes with something else .... Z seems fine on running ... is tall ... not out of breath ... focused to a fault and very very ODD ... he could win POV ... I actually think he could win the trivia too .... As Dani said seh has won but the only times she lost were to Z.
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