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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:34 am
What do you think is the best strategy for Jess this week?
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Chicogirl
Member
07-23-2007
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:38 am
To not listen to Eric and start thinking for herself.
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Tanith
Member
08-25-2006
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:39 am
I'm hoping Jess can make a deal with Zach, get him off the block and backdoor Dani. Then she would have Zach and Jam vote out Dani, Eric (as AP) and Dick vote out Amber and Jess would break the tie. Then all you have is Dick playing for himself next week. Even if he got HOH and put up Jess she has a great shot at winning Veto. Just hoping Dani goes because she's gunning for Jess first out of the 4.
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Mickiej
Member
07-26-2004
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:40 am
Best strategy is to oust the strongest player. IMO that would be Amber, Dani and Eric. For obvious reasons, Eric is safe. Amber and Dani know how to win at the competitions, and they should be viewed as the strongest. If Amber is lucky and is pulled off the block, I would think she would put up Dani. Jameka still suffers with not being able to compete in HoH, so even though her alliance is strong, it has no depth, and Amber may be voted out.
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Tanith
Member
08-25-2006
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:40 am
Oooh, and just to add.. then for once and for all she would see Eric is the sneaky vote.
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Pamilucy
Member
08-01-2006
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:42 am
ITA with Tanith. I think keeping Dick is the best strategically for Jess. Backdoor Dani and keep Zach. Keeping Dick is probably the best for all the others. Who would vote for Dick over Jessica, or many of the others? (It would be a hard choice for me if it were Eric and Dick at the end).
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Mickiej
Member
07-26-2004
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:52 am
Just like it was a tough call last year between Boogie and Erika...deciding who was the better of two evils!! But as a viewer that enjoys Dick's game, I would choose Dick...alas I won't be on the jury!
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Messalina
Member
06-19-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:53 am
ITA, Pamilucy. Exactly. My nightmare is having to look at Eric and Dick as the F2. I'm asking my MD for Xanax to have on hand in case that happens.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:59 am
I posted this in the other thread (7 years on this board and I STILL go off topic ) Personally, this stuff with Jessica having no mind of her own is something that comes up every year, especially with female players. The thing is, Jessica was in a bad spot this week. Putting up D/D doesn't make a great deal of sense, at least not right now. Jess is in a 4 person alliance with D/D/E and a 2(3?) person alliance with Jameka and maybe Eric with them, though Jameka doesn't want Eric there. Jameka is in an alliance with Amber and Zack is in an alliance with Dani/Dick. The best thing that Jess can do is get rid of the backup plans of her main alliances. Let's say Jess manages to get rid of Dani. Next week, Dick rallies Amber and Zach to get rid of Jess/Eric as the "strongest remaining couple". Jameka can't play HOH, only Eric can, so Jess has to rely on Eric to get HOH and then he has to rely on America to not force him to nominate Jess. Of course, she doesn't know that, but it DOES mean she goes into the next week with a huge target on her back. The same thing happens if Dick is evicted, except that the chances of Dani winning HOH are even stronger. Does Jess need to take that risk? From everything we've seen so far, Dick intends to keep the agreement with J/E and Dani may be wavering but if they get rid of Zach, she doesn't really have a fallback position. So, all in all, this is not some horrible game move, like Erika made last year in nominating her friend in order to play the game with an obvious team. Jessica is still aligned with two people against whom she could win in F2 and who will NOT choose to go with D/D to the final 3 (meaning if she is the final 4 with D/D and either Jameka or Eric wins veto, neither will evict Jessica). Jessica's chances in the final 3 competitions are strong, even against D/D. Believe me, I have gone over and over and over Jessica's options because I have a such distaste for Dick that I cannot watch him, as hard as I try to be objective. However, no matter how I run the scenarios, it just seems like she is making the most logical decisions right now, even though they are also the ones Eric wants her to make. Maybe that's because Eric actually DOES have her best interests in mind. Then again, if Eric was genuine in his attitude and feelings toward Jess, that would make him a little too human and not all evil...
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Ecoop
Member
07-07-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:00 am
I posted this earlier in the thread, but will repeat it here since it fits. I'd like to see Jameka win POV and remove Amber (to foil an easy vote for America and Eric). This would give Jessica an opportunity to put up Dani, who she's wanted out for some time. And, it will keep Dick off her back for a couple of days because she can't nominate Jameka and won't nominate Eric. Amber and Jameka vote to evict Dani and, if there's a tie, Jessica evicts Dani. Jessica does NOT want to take Dani to the final 3 or 4, cause she knows Dani can kick her butt. In the best possible scenario, America votes to evict Dani. Jessica comes away clean and Eric draws Dick's ire. This doesn't mean I think Jessica should win, in fact I don't much care who it is as long as it's not Dani or Dick. This is simply what I think would be Jessica's best strategy right now.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:05 am
Agreed on keeping Zach and using the backdoor strategy for Dani. If Jess makes that move, she will deserve to win. I know she's considered it, but I'm afraid Eric will convince her to take the safe route this week. If she realizes he is throwing HOH comps and doesn't intend to win one, she'll do it. I take it many of us would vote Daniele for AP? I would happily!
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:09 am
I'm hoping Jess can make a deal with Zach, get him off the block and backdoor Dani. Then she would have Zach and Jam vote out Dani, Eric (as AP) and Dick vote out Amber and Jess would break the tie. Then all you have is Dick playing for himself next week. Even if he got HOH and put up Jess she has a great shot at winning Veto. Just hoping Dani goes because she's gunning for Jess first out of the 4. I thought about this situation and, even though Zach has shown that he keeps his word, I can see him throwing HOH the following week so that Amber or Dick wins it and one of them nominates the only remaining "pair", Jess and Eric. Zach's game is to make sure that anyone with power will make a deal for his vote, so he needs everyone to be playing individually so his vote is worth more, so he wants either Jess or Eric, both pretty good options for F2 right now, to choose to pick him. If Jameka could play in the HOH competition, then Jess would be smart to go after D/D. But right now, with so little back up, she needs to keep the strongest on her side.
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Messalina
Member
06-19-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:11 am
I think Zach should provoke Dick into one of his famous tirades. The other HGs seem to have been lulled into thinking that now Jen is gone, Dick is just a gentle little lamb. Zach seems to be the only one who knows this isn't true. If Dick does explode he's very likely to say some things that will make the others realize they want to break up the D/D alliance and they must do it NOW.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:13 am
Finally a thread to my liking.. Although I do agree that Jessica's best move would be to play it safe, I find that it's exactly for this reason that I cannot get into this show anymore. Until it was gutys with all the backdooring going on I was excited to see it but now all this "playing it safe" it's simply boring and it's killing the interest for many viewers. Me first. Oh well, I still enjoying reading some of the posts.
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Tanith
Member
08-25-2006
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:15 am
Tres, I would gladly vote Dani for AP. Problem is I think the the majority will vote Jam. Which means Jess would really have to stand her ground and tell Eric a big "No-yah!"
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 11:02 am
i hope dani/dick/jess win the veto and keep noms the same. i want amber gone. i think if dani/dick and jess/eric make it to final four, they know it's not personal towards the end.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 11:16 am
Tanith, you're probably right about the AP vote. The Donato voters are a dominant auto-bot voting block. Sigh, one more reason I'm peeved about AP. If it accurately reflected what the majority feel, I wouldn't mind, but it's a skewed result.
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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 11:32 am
Zacksmom I agree with you *** i hope dani/dick/jess win the veto and keep noms the same. i want amber gone. i think if dani/dick and jess/eric make it to final four, they know it's not personal towards the end *** I dont agree with another post I read about now ** think Zach should provoke Dick into one of his famous tirades *** I think that what kept some of Dicks tirades going was just that! some of was other HG egging him on. I would hear them tell him Dick you should do this and That. Then off course they could just watch the explosion from the side line. Sigh I have had enough Tirades to last me a life time.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 11:40 am
The best thing for Jess is if the noms hold. Then you can get rid of Amber (and it'll be 3-1, so Jess doesn't have to break the tie herself). If she tries to get rid of Dani now, she likely loses both D/D votes , which cripples her if she makes it to final 2-especially if she has to break a tie (since AP will likely want to keep both D/D). If you want to get rid of one of D/D you have to do it at final 5 or later (since you can play the "I've got no choices left" card...) If Jameka wins veto, it'll be interesting. If A/Z win veto, I don't know...
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Messalina
Member
06-19-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 11:42 am
Seattlemom, I was the one who said that. I haven't enjoyed Dick's tirades either. I've been quite vocal about them as a matter of fact. I think Jess made a mistake by not taking Zach up on his offer yesterday. He told her if she would put up the D/D alliance he would stand up to help her deal with the Dick fallout that would follow. She didn't take him up on his offer and so I'm assuming she doesn't think she's in the line of fire because Jen's eviction seems to have defused the angry Dick. I think she's wrong and Zach appears to be the only one who can handle him when the explosion does occur. But the only way Zach will be able to prove to them that he is right is to provoke Dick into proving it himself. I could be wrong. Maybe it will be a love fest all the way to the end.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 11:57 am
Wilson, I agree that the best thing for Jess is for the nominations to hold. Messalina, Zach also told her yesterday that he follows the power. That he sides with whoever gets him further in the game. There's no way that Jess & Eric get him further in the game with Dick & Dani broken up. In fact, he'll side with whoever has HOH next and it WON'T be him. Jess has put Dani & Dick up before, so it's not the explosions that matter as much as the possible game repercussions. She wanted to keep Dick and evict Dani last time, in spite of angry Dick, so I just don't see her intimidated by him, at least not in that way.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 12:01 pm
jessica would have to do something pretty bad for dick to go off on her. he adores her.
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2addicted
Member
07-17-2006
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 12:13 pm
I love this thread. I'm going to go against the pack and say I think Jess' best strategy is to stick to the DDJE alliance-- I would love to see a 4 strong players F4 with NO floaters. Last year I wanted W,B & J for the same reasons. It was a travesty to have Erica there. It would be nice to see an alliance stick, friendships preserved and a "take no prisoners" head to head final. I have begrudging respect for E, J, D, & D's game strategy-- all of which are completely different. I say begrudging bc each one has flaws (covered already in numerous threads) but I sincerely believe that all 4 are playing hard and I really respect that.
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Messalina
Member
06-19-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 12:17 pm
Onlyhuman...but then Jen was still there to bear the brunt of his temper. Now that the stakes are getting higher I believe he would turn on anyone standing in the way of him and Dani. Except Zach. Dick has already proved he won't tangle with Zach. I agree with whoever said it on another thread a few days ago...Dick will beat up on anybody so long as they are "female and less than 5'7"." ETA: I should also say I think he would turn on Eric the same way he would the women.
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Mrsmel
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07-04-2007
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 12:18 pm
I think if Jess puts up Dani, that would be considered something pretty bad. LOL! She would be breaking their agreement when Dani didn't break hers last week. I think Eric has convinced Jess that she can win against D/D in final two, so I would be suprised if she stirred it up too much right now.
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