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Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
Eric has never voted for me! I'm not one of the "us". To me AC has ruined the game by completely biasing it. I would rather see Eric playing for himself, not for that sector of the fans who love the Donatos.

I don't think Jen made a mistake eating. If BB had followed the written rules, she would have got a penalty nom with no veto and stayed at least another week. The extra vote against her made no difference to the planned outcome. It was also great to see her finally stand up to both Dick and BB.

Battlestar
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07-27-2005

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Battlestar a private message Print Post    
Kmjm : majority rules. Just like in BB1


"I don't think Jen made a mistake eating"

Jen won the veto by offering to go on slop for a certain amount of days----she went against that contract with the first bite she had. If she had not won the veto that week, she would have been gone then

2addicted
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07-17-2006

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send 2addicted a private message Print Post    
I was never a Jen fan but I hated the way she was treated. I'm rooting for Dick but I still believe he should have received a punishment for dumping tea on her head.

The problem with the BB rules is that they aren't enforced consistently.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 10:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Zach fatal mistake will be going to the final three with Dick and Daniele. They have an unbreakable alliance and will ALWAYS choose each other over other players.

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
Battlestar, not majority. Just the largest section of the fan base and those most interested in voting. In fact, on some votes with more than one choice there could be a majority voting for the other options. BB1 was completely uncontrolled as far as how many times a person could vote. Case in point- George's wife's orchestration of Brittany's eviction.

I was really happy to see Jen break her "contract". BB after all had told her that she could destroy cigarettes and hadn't replaced the 3 packs she got rid of earlier.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
I think Jen's fatal mistake was making up that lie about Nick allegedly trying to kiss her. If Jen was not too self-absorbed, she might have noticed that people did not really care for her. That being said, she would have realized that the lie might backfire and that she might be called-out about it.

Moreover, strategy-wise, it was a stupid lie! It totally was not something worth lying about since it in no way would have furthered her game even if the lie would have been believed.

It is clear that in BB people will lie (even those who claim that they don't lie). However, if you are going to take a risk and lie, you should lie about something that furthers your game. You should not lie about something that makes you a target and a laughingstock. After all, who wants to make an alliance with the house laughingstock?

I personally think that eating at the end like she did was not a maneuver as she'd already been outplayed and was going home regardless of the eating.

Mickiej
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07-26-2004

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mickiej a private message Print Post    
I think everything's gone just fine so far..

I agree with Earthmother...

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
I thought that it was pretty well established that Jen's story about Nick wasn't a lie. We have only Nick's word for it and he lied constantly. Nick's plan was to find someone convenient for a showmance and he was sniffing around those first days.

Jen's problem was more that she always blurted out the truth, IMO. The other women found Dick gross too, but they had the sense not to say it.

Battlestar
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07-27-2005

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Battlestar a private message Print Post    
"BB after all had told her that she could destroy cigarettes"

Jen SAID that BB told her that she could destroy cigarettes---the operative phrase here is "JEN SAID"

I personally do not believe that BB told her or anyone else tht destroying property was OK--she may have heard what she wanted to hear, but I doubt they said it was okay

Battlestar
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07-27-2005

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Battlestar a private message Print Post    
"not majority. Just the largest section of the fan base and those most interested in voting"

it is not hard to vote

Northwestblonde
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09-01-2005

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Northwestblonde a private message Print Post    
Considering nearly every word out of Jen's mouth was lie from the time she came in the house, I would find it nearly impossible to believe the BB producers told her she could destroy cigarettes if there was a smoker in the house. Someone asking this particular question sounds questionable to begin with when entering the house and the fact Jen said it, just makes it that much more implausible.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
Battlestar : "I personally do not believe that BB told her or anyone else tht destroying property was OK--she may have heard what she wanted to hear, but I doubt they said it was okay"

You can doubt what Jen said BB said BUT you can not doubt what BB showed Jen. One of the AP's chores was to be destructive of someone's property.

Truly they have double standards this year.

Battlestar
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07-27-2005

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Battlestar a private message Print Post    
"One of the AP's chores was to be destructive of someone's property"

What the AP was told to do has nothing to do with what other guests are told is okay to do

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 2:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
"What the AP was told to do has nothing to do with what other guests are told is okay to do"

It has everything to do with what the other HG would think is ok to do.

Like I said, truly double standards this year.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
Agreed.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 3:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
There was more than one smoker in the house.

I'm sure all HG's are informed about smoking in their contract.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 3:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The difference is that Jen's shirt was not destroyed. And BB did not have to go out to replace one of the HG's property.

IF Jen asked if she could destroy someone's smokes, I'm sure the way she asked and the way it was responded to was completey different than what Jen assumed. I think BB may have thought she asked "if there's a smoker in there, can I take the cigarette he's smoking and destroy it." I cannot imagine BB, in any way, shape, or form, would say "yeah, it's OK to destroy a couple of hundred dollars worth of someone's smokes."

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Kale's mistake was making a deal with Nick's big head while his little head was doing the thinking. Had she left him out, I really think her Mike and Zach would have stuck together.

But...
The #1 all time cluster-you-know-what is leaving a father and daughter in the house intact. I cannot fathom that none of them recognize it is the strongest alliance in bb history. You'd think they woulda known it even before Dick risked his own game for his, cough, devoted offspring. LOL. BB thanks them for their stupidity daily.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 9:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
Dustin's biggest blunder was in believing his own spin. He was foolish in believing that he was untouchable. He threw caution to the winds.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 9:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
I think when they replaced the original Darrin Stephens (Dick York) with Dick Sargent and expected nobody to realize the difference was the first maneuver on tv that went wrong. Here are a couple of Dick's on tv that provided a lot of entertainment without cursing or spitting. Dick York played Darrin as a jovial guy in love with his wife but frustrated with her antics and her family's meddling, while Dick Sargent always just seemed ticked off and barely tolerated Sam and her family. The producers not only miscast the bitter Sargent, but the writing for him seemed to make Darrin a different character and not the same character played by a different guy. But since the show ran for three more years, it gave tv producers everywhere the confidence that they could do just about anything and keep people watching a show as long as it still had a core audience. It's all been downhill on tv ever since.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 4:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
So Darclyte, the problem seems to be "Dicks" then?

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 4:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
I was just throwing a curve ball.
Thinking outside the box.
Hehe.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 6:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
Maneuver that went wrong: Jameka and Mike thinking that playing the game "honorably" will pay dividends. When are people going to learn that BB is a game about double-speak, lying and flat-out backstabbing? If you don't come to play, don't bother showing up at all.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 6:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
I can say this now because Jessica has been evicted:

Maneuver that went wrong = Aligning herself and listening to Eric. That was her undoing.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 6:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Jessica remaining a couch potatoe instead of campaigning for herself. Let Eric run her game...

Eric was running everyone's game with the help of America and D/D with Zach said "Enough is Enough!!!!"

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 9:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
Maneuver that went wrong: Jessica becoming "that girl that got played" after she vowed that she would not be known as such.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 5:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Jameka relying too much on God's help when God only help those who help themselves.

Sorry Jameka, praying is good but you gotta work harder to get what you want.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
Casting this lot for the show. Is it me or what, but it seems like this season saw a lot of reprehensible behavior from most of the HGs? I hope they scrap this set-up and go back to basics next year.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 3:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Rehtse,

apparently the controversial lot is what BB wants, no matter how much reprehensible behaviour we had to witness, some enjoy it immensely.

But to get back at Jameka, she proved absolutely useless to Zach (and to D/D for that matter), not only she didn't try harder but she was just too lousy in q&a comps. As Daniele remarked (very smart of her I think) that Jameka was studying the weird things, like how many ribbons in the wallpaper pattern, or some other silly thing like that, instead of concentrating on the important stuff regarding the houseguests, and this is the reason she lost.
Well, Zach didn't do much better than Jameka.

Zach had to align with Jameka out of desperation.. and desperate players rarely win.

Now Jameka is more than happy to leave and control the Jury with her telling them of the "truth".

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 4:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
LOL, Spunky. I just hope that Zach and Jameka's revisionist history proves as ineffective in swaying the jury as their game play was in the house.