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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 9: Biggest Flaw with America's Player?: Archive through September 07, 2007 users admin

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Marksman
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05-04-2007

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 10:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
Early on some people speculated Eric was throwing competition. I think now having a clear picture of his entire time in the house, the reality is he really sucked in competitions. I mean he was historically horrible. Sure he did not get to compete in many Veto competitions, and he did win 1 (although he also almost lost in the first round.) But look at the HOHs he was not good in any of them, despite what he might try to tell Jessica.

Couldn't we have gotten an America's Player who was more capable in these tasks? Would one HOH in almost 10 weeks be too much to ask?

I hate the Donatos but at least they are very capable when it comes to the contests. Heck Zack is more capable than Eric.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 11:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
his biggest flaw was the constant Bragging of how he was "a force to be reconned with!"

telling people he could have won that one if he really tried.

promising Jess that he wanted to start winning comps as "it was important now". LOL

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 11:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
oh, and that Terrible last speech before being voted out! saying that he Could have got rid of them all during the game LOL

Kiersten_love
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08-03-2001

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 2:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kiersten_love a private message Print Post    
LOL, i agree Sunshyne, Eric was so upset and angry he couldn't think straight when he made that comment. Where in the world did he think he could have gotten rid of them, which dream sequence? LMAO at Eric

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 2:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gina8642 a private message Print Post    
He could have gotten rid of them - if he wasn't AP. He wasn't exaggerating or dreaming. Dick would have gone in Dustin's eviction week if Eric wasn't AP.

Not delusionsal. Not Dreaming. Just the truth.

Kiersten_love
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08-03-2001

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kiersten_love a private message Print Post    
LOL, I think that Eric was close to leaving that week if you can remember that far back.

So yeah its laughable about Eric thinking he would have gotten rid of them. Just the truth!!! :-)

Nancy73153
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08-10-2007

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancy73153 a private message Print Post    
I think Eric showed his True colors tonight and was glad for it.

Streetsmart
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08-06-2006

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Streetsmart a private message Print Post    
The whole AP twist only helped Dick. Nobody else.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gina8642 a private message Print Post    
Eric gets really nasty and mean when he's angry. But he is telling the truth when he said he could have evicted Dick.

Dick and Daniele have had a completely loyal alliance of three for weeks without knowing it. D/D/AP

That's the game - I have no problem with it. (But it is ironic.)

Kidsatm
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07-08-2005

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kidsatm a private message Print Post    
If they get to F2 Zach could win against Jameka, don't forget we have a player in the jury house and he is the "Philadelphia lawyer". He convinced the LNC5 to vote itself out, he could conceivably convince the jury to vote Zach over Jameka if that is what America votes for.
ETA - Biggest flaw this week was Jess and most fatal flaw was not teaming up with Zach.

Jbw
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08-14-2006

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbw a private message Print Post    
Eric gets really nasty and mean when he's angry. But he is telling the truth when he said he could have evicted Dick.

But if it wasn't for the America's Player twist, Eric would have been gone the week before when Dani saw the banner. The DR work long and hard to convince the houseguests to keep Eric in the game.

So yes, the AP twist kept Dick in the game but it also saved Eric the week before from eviction. Eric couldn't have evicted Dick if he was gone the week before.

Cinder
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09-01-2000

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 5:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinder a private message Print Post    
But the only reason they wanted him gone before the banner was the "hinky votes" (that the banner was hinting at). It is too hard to know how they would have liked non-AP Eric.
And- I believe Eric did throw 3 HOHs (one was the first though- and you never want to win the first)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 5:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
The only reason he got the banner was because he was AP and some people felt that he wasn't playing hard enough for them. So he wouldn't have even been in danger without the banner, he would still have been in the game and allied with Dustin and the LNC and Dick would have been evicted.

I agree that the only beneficiary of the AP twist is Dick (with Daniele as second). It was a third powerful secret member of their alliance and consistently supported them throughout the game.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I loved Eric's goodbye comments at the door. Just enough to make Dick start stuttering how it was all just game.

Somehow even though he keeps saying how he knows he can't win against most of them, I don't think he really believes that. I think he believes that everyone would vote for him against anyone but Dani because of his "game play." It seemecd to me that Eric's words shook him up a bit.

He was the one who dubbed Eric the "philidelphia lawyer" because of his ability to talk people into things. Is he now worrying about whether it was smart to send him into the sequester house with people who have every reason to dislike and distrust Dick and Dani?

When you think about it, not one person in the Sequester house like them. And they have had a direct part in every one of them leaving. I really think both of them have to be up for one of them to win.

I could be wrong and people might vote their heads instead of their emotions and choose the better game player over the person they liked the best, but have we seen any sign of that in this group so far?

Yep, ever if for a little while, I think Eric has made Dick sweat and I loved it.

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
Is it true...anyone know???...that Dick's friends have rigged a voting bot, flooding CBS with votes while the rest of us dial 1 no at a time with one finger and stop when tired. It seemed true with the surprise "hurry" vote last night.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Coulda woulda shoulda... Eric's personality was probably the wrong personality to take on AP. His failure to listen to America at first, his ego... And the fact that I think he is one of the least likeable HGs ever.

I got really tired of the bragging (I coulda done this) and the backtracking (I shoulda done that). If he was a good as he claims he was, why didn't he actually win anything more than one veto comp?

Have fun in the jury house Eric.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
There was a voting bot for Jen, too. I wouldn't be surprised if there were voting bots for everyone. They may have all cancelled each other out.

Smrtass
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09-11-2000

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smrtass a private message Print Post    
America.

Battlestar
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07-27-2005

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Battlestar a private message Print Post    
I think if Eric had not been AP--he would have been a early evictee

Tndeb
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09-27-2005

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tndeb a private message Print Post    
The biggest flaw in the America's Player was the person they choose. Eric's mannerisms and arrogance grated on a lot of people's nerves. It may have worked better with a more likable personality.
IMHO.

Tdawn
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08-15-2007

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 7:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tdawn a private message Print Post    
I can't say that I loved Eric's personality but I think that he did a good job as AP. And I believe Eric started this game with the impression that America was playing to help him get further not to help the Donatos. I don't think he was ignoring America I think he was confused. In my opinion the biggest flaw with America's player is that America and Eric had two different ideas about what the AP roll was. I feel like AP would have been better had it been a mole someone that was not there to win but truly there to do America's bidding.

Bygdatty
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08-25-2007

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bygdatty a private message Print Post    
There's some revisionism going around. Despite what viewers thought of Eric early on, he was well liked in the house before that banner flew. He was always selected to host the veto competitions and was generally friendly to everyone.

Tdawn is right that Eric thought America was voting to help him and he realized in the middle that it was the Donatos that "America" wanted to help. So he had to shift gears. That must've really sucked to realize that you're playing a game to help someone else win.

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
Voting bots have been touted with every hg's fanclub, Eric's included. No proof that they really work.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 8:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
I think Eric did fine.

What he could not battle was Allison's manipulation of the public's perception when it came to Dick. This was the biggest problem with AP. The truth of the house was never presented in the TV shows and so the votes were never indicative of people reacting to reality.

Tndeb
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09-27-2005

Friday, September 07, 2007 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tndeb a private message Print Post    
If the AP votes were solely based on the TV show the AP would have been more successful. Eric was always shown in a good light and Dick wasn't, which leads me to the only logically conclusion that most of the AP tasks were voted in by the internet watchers rather than the people who only watched the TV version.