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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:58 am
ohhhh well I haven't been to bed since Thursday morning and then I had a giant sinus headache, but Advil and a long shower helped, but you know how after you kill or dampen pain it still leaves you tired from dealing with the pain. I'm going to fade away to bed very soon.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 4:59 am
One last thing.. right now, I'm enjoying Dani and Jameka talking, Dick, Dani and Jameka talking When Zach is there at all, too tense, too gamey.
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Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 5:00 am
Exactly Jbw - and if Zach ends up in final 2 with Jameka it could possibly cost him their votes.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 5:01 am
But he added a new element of talking religion and how relgious he is. I documented it in Screencaps. Zach talked about how she had got him thinking about his religion again and how he thinks he should go back to church more often. it was also just a few sentences, not the overdone speeches that I felt amber gave.
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Jbw
Member
08-14-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 5:14 am
Keeping Dani and beating her and Dick at F3 might by him enough respect to seal a win against one of them. Probably right. He would have won 3 of the last 4 HOHs and at least one veto. Good enough for the win since the jury hates D/D. and if Zach ends up in final 2 with Jameka it could possibly cost him their votes. Jameka would destroy him in the jury vote. Maybe 7-0 or 6-1, just like Boogie did with Erica.
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 5:17 am
Sun, thanks so much for your updates in screencaps thread, and your latest one in the IHH thread. I would have been totally lost. Go Zach and Jameka!
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Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 5:27 am
and if Zach ends up in final 2 with Jameka it could possibly cost him their votes. Jameka would destroy him in the jury vote. Maybe 7-0 or 6-1, just like Boogie did with Erica. Maybe. Maybe not. If Zach wins 3 out of 4 of the last HOHs and this POV and the last one then I would say people just have to give it to him for his game play. Some, like Amber, will obviously just vote on friendship but some may vote fairly and chose gameplay.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 5:34 am
Poor Dani still hoping Dr Will hosts a veto comp. That's one dream that won't come true.
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Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 5:46 am
I just read in the screen caps that Zach's dad told him to play honorably in the letter. Now it makes a lot more sense why Zach told Jameka that stuff.
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:12 am
Yeah, that letter gave Zach a kick in the rear or something... playing honorably, about e1 watching and ppl calling them (his family) to say they were watching... just kind of let Zach know that he had lots of family/friends watching him and to play on the up and up. He came out on a roll after that letter and that's when he wanted to be one of the "good people." lol
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:28 am
What's funny is that Zach made such a huge deal out of Jen eating and how she affected "the integrity of the game" but didn't have any problem attempting to get money from Jameka. I hope when he went into the DR they used those very words with him.
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:29 am
They did give him a scolding and he went and apologized to Jam.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:32 am
I did see that Shops, and I give him props for doing so.
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Aerojunki
Member
06-30-2004
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:33 am
His dad might of said play honorably meaning, don't run around naked with your dong hangin' out.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:39 am
LOL Aerojunki. Too late for that now! I hope Thadd will call in to Housecalls again today. He must be thrilled beyond words that Zach got HOH last night.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:48 am
I just thought of something I meant to ask about last night. DD&Z had said all week that Jameka had to leave after Jess. Does anyone know when/why they decided to vote out Eric next instead?
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:52 am
Last night Dick said something about that Eric looked like would be insane to live with all week after that. I thought it would be Jam too, however some reason they opted for Eric.
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Messalina
Member
06-19-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:52 am
I wasn't watching when Zach pulled the money angle on Jameka. I was disappointed in him for that. I'm glad he got busted for it. Still want a Zach/Jameka F2 though.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:56 am
Let's analyze Zach's thinking. Remember, we have to analyze it in terms of what he knows and believes, not what we as outsiders know and believe. Why does Zach need to worry about making the Danatos mad? He is guarateed to be in the final 3. If he is in it with both of the Danatos, neither will take him if they win HOH. He has to know that. So why would he care what they thought at this point? And there is the possibility that if he is in final 3 with Jameka and one of the Danatos and she should win the final HOH, she might take him instead of the Danatos. You never know with Jameka. He may think she believes she can beat him, and as much as she dislikes the Danatos, she might take the chance just to keep them from winning anything. and she just might be appreciative of him giving her the chance to stay. He also probably thinks that Dick is the only one of them HE can beat in F2. So which of the two, Dani or Jameka does he think HE can beat in the last HOH? I think past performance should tell us that. Why would he take the chance against Dani if he can prevent it? So why not go for getting Dani out? What does he have to lose? The love and respect of Dani and Dick? A couple of votes? So if it goes wrong and one of the Danatos win the POV so what? He won't be any worse off than he is now except they will be pissed. Who cares at this point? Neither one of them would take him to F2 anyway. As far as jury votes go, he just might pick up a couple if he kicks out one of the Danatos. By putting them both up, he has made a bold play, the mark of a good player. And when you think about it, it is only one vote he would lose not two, because if he gets to F2 with one of them, he will not have the other one's vote anyway. And how can the Danatos have the nerve to even use the "betrayal" angle after what they just did to Jess and Eric? And remember, his plan is to beat Jameka and Dick in the F2 HOH and take Dick, who he is pretty sure he can beat. Sure there are a lot of ifs, and some risks, but there always are and he has to weigh the options. Sounds like a good stategy to me.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:57 am
Thanks Shops. I missed that conversation entirely and was still thinking about it when I fell asleep (a few short hours ago LOL). Messalina, I'd love to see that F2 as well, but I'd also have to say Dani would deserve to win if she gets there.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 7:04 am
Beautiful post as usual Allie. There's no situation cloudy on the 8 ball any longer. Donatos take each other to F2 and that's that, so one's got to go. There's no legitimate reason for anyone to feel betrayed because they all know what needs to happen. It's all competitions now, no more wheeling and dealing to be done. ETA: Now it would be funny if it comes down to Jameka's vote and she decides to get rid of Dick instead of Dani.
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Delilah
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 7:11 am
Great post, Allie. I totally agree. The only wrinkle is if Zach puts up D/D and either one of them win POV ... Daniele would take herself off, and Dick would take Daniele off. Either way, Daniele would be the lone vote ... and she would vote out Jameka. (This is my dream scenario, by the way. I would LOVE it to happen like this!)
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 7:14 am
Thanks, Trisbien, I just can't figure the people who think Zach should just go along with D&D's plans. They did not seem to think D&D were making a mistake to get rid of Jess & Eric. Don't you think they have lost a couple of votes? Zach is not an idiot. He knows they have been using him to get to F2. He will likely never get another chance to take one of them out. He would be a fool to pass up the opportunity, just as they would have been to pass up getting Jess and Eric out. Let's face it, Dani is the best competitor in the game and most probably will win the last HOH if she is still there. Take her out.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 7:21 am
Percisely, Delilah, so why shouldn't Zach make a move to better his position. He has nothing to lose...... Unless, the Danatos 1. Get angry with Zach for his "betrayal." We must understand. They are allowed to betray. Others aren't. 2. They decide that Zach is a better competitor than Jameka, which he is, and decide to get rid of him instead of Jameka. But I think they would weigh who they think they can beat in F2 over comps, and Jameka is the only one they really fear. It would be so ironic if Jameka wins, after they were so determined to get rid of Jess and Eric over her. That is my dream scenario. I love irony.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 7:27 am
Is there a POV? If so what would happen if Dick won POV and took Dani off? there is nobody to put in her place so I am thinking no POV.
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