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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 9: Dani & Zach's "friendship": Archive through September 04, 2007 users admin

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Nascarfan
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08-09-2007

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nascarfan a private message Print Post    
Zach is Dani's only friend in the house..when she's mad at her father. Not sure about if she has other feelings toward Zach other than friendship.. you just never know. She is very young and most young girls seemed to change boyfriends like they do clothes.. she was quick to forget about her boyfriend when Nick came into the picture. So, you just never know... it could be another showmance if Zach and Dani were to be the final 2. Hmmmmmmmm

Sammy
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08-21-2007

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sammy a private message Print Post    
totally agree Klaw73....there weren't to many HOH's that weren't run by others....Jess was always run by someone else and she should have done the dirty deed and nominated dani/dick....everyone should know at this time they never truly kept their word---they would be willing to throw anyone under the bus if it meant mroe for them...they are working together for each other---the rest of the house are aware of it but lack inspriation to really do anything but hand it to them on a place along with the staff....

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Oh poor Zach, his reign is already over!!
The Queen of Hearts said "I have the Power now" and Zach could only stare...

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I think they ALL complain about ALL the other hg and to single out Dani is silly.

I won't bother coming back in this thread because it just looks like another Dani bashing thread to me.

Scribe
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08-16-2000

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scribe a private message Print Post    
she told her Dad she would use Zach to help her in the game but I dont think she finds it unpleasant to be his friend either - she can talk to him about Nick and have a receptive audience as well - they are sitting at the pool and its about as outgoing as I have seen her in a long while sitting next to Zach -

Ohiomobprincess
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11-07-2003

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 8:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ohiomobprincess a private message Print Post    
I think Dani is just using Zach because she has no one else in the house to talk too. Good deal on her part, otherwise I think she would go psycho without someone to relate too.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 11:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Dani is using Zach, but don't kid yourself. Zach will throw Dani or anyone else in the house under the hosue for a half million dollars. And that is how it should be. He may like Dani and even have a crush on her, but he knows he doesn't stand a chance with her. He is there for the money and may be the only one who is thinking only with his head and has been since the beginning.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 7:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Do users really have friends.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Dani is an outcast, as is Zach. I think the two have naturally gravitated together. Are they using each other? Well, yeah, it's a frickin' game. They will both do what they need to do to keep moving ahead.

These two have spent time together, though. And I do think the more time Dani spends with Zach, the more she likes him.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 8:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Dani knows that Nick liked Zach. She spent more time talking to him (while laying in bed with Nick) than any other hg, other than Dick. I don't see her as being mean to Zach, but more sisterly. I've heard her call her dad a "mean friend". In our house the siblings and the parents all "cap" on each other. Dani caps on Zach and he loves it. She jokingly says things that some may construe as being "mean", but I see it as playful banter. Nick capped on Zach like a frat brother and that is the relationship that he and Dani have as well. NO they are not friends yet, but I do see her keeping in touch with him and Nick over any of the other hgs. As for her saying "I want him gone", name one other person in that house that she hasn't said that about except Nick, and she voted him out, she's even said that about her dad...

Tanith
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08-25-2006

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tanith a private message Print Post    
Dani is an outcast, as is Zach. I think the two have naturally gravitated together.

That fact was so apparent last night during Showtime. Dick, Eric, Jess and Jam were having fun at the table playing drinking games. Zach was doing something silly with the honey bear, Dani was puttering around the kitchen. I think Dani is actually better suited to date Zach than Nick! When D and Z eventually joined the rest, their interaction seems so forced and unnatural, whearas socializing to Dick, Eric, Jam, and Jess seems to come so naturally.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Tanith, you be my friend now. Come sit by me. ,mnk


Very happy that this thread is straggling along...

Bbnut
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06-12-2006

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 1:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbnut a private message Print Post    
Dani told Dick that she didn't want to promise Zach something and then stab him in the back because she likes Zach and that is not who she is.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 7:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I kind of like how Dani and Zach have quietly and slowly built up the little friendship that they have going here. I think she sort of started out tolerating Zach almost as a bad piece of furniture and she has gradually come to see him as a friend (or the closest thing she has to a friend in this game).

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
She is so friendly with Zach that she'll keep Jessica to make Zach's day! How nice!!

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 11:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
I remember as far back as when Daniele and Dick were on the block and it appeared Dick would leave. Daniele aligned with Zach and I have heard say on several occasions she would never nominate him. She also told her father SHE LIKED HIM. They probably would never have been friends meeting outside the house, but I think they've grown to have somewhat of a bond. Plus, they ARE there to win 500k! Zach could end up throwing Daniele under the bus and vice versa. It's called a GAME. :-)

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 4:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I am now over this "friendship" between Zach and Dani. I think the way she belittles him is atrocious and I hope he stays as far away from her as possible in the real world because she does not appreciate him as a person at all. He deserves a lot better.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 6:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
If Dani and Zach are outcasts in the house it is because they have chosen to be. Some people sit around and wait for someone to "invite" them into the group. Others just go join the party.

I saw it all the time as a teacher. A group of kids could be playing. Some kids would just go over and join the group and would be instantly accepted. Others would hang back and ask to be invited. It seldom worked. That is the way I see Dani and Zach. The kids who stand back and expect to be invited to join the group.

The rest of the houseguests have commented on how Dani isolates herself. She does not understand it and blamed it on her Dad. But most of the houseguests would have accepted her if she had made an attempt. Most of them did not like Dick, but they did like Dani. She just did not recognize it.

As for as Zach is concerned, the first weeks, he had no time for anyone but Nick and Mike. When they were gone, he was like a lost puppy. He did not know how to relate to any of the others. We have to admit, he is a little strange. His conversations are often disjointed and hard to understand.

I think Zach is probably the most grounded of all the houseguests. He will go back to his life and there will be no "trama" from his time in the house. But he made it hard for the others to get to know him. That is his fault, not theirs.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 7:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I feel the reason Dani tolerates Zach and has chosen to hang with him is because of Nick. Anyone else who adores Nick is okay with Dani and Nick said to say Hi to Zach in his letter. Dani is obsessed with Nick. I can't wait to see how long their real-life relationship lasts.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I think that's pretty harsh, Allietex, and actually, not even true that it's his fault and not theirs. He had great conversations with Jameka, for one, about "real life" and then she went and trashed him behind his back to Jess and Eric. It's his "fault" that he's socially inept; it's not his fault that the others chose to treat him like a social pariah. He's just on a different wavelength than they are and it makes him a target.

I also think that Zach comes across as socially inept because he is underconfident. I used to be the same way and I was always saying weird things as as result--people making fun would only make it worse. Like I said, I feel for the guy being in the situation he's in--he deserves better.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 4:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I have noticed that the people that do well socially in the BB house are the ones that jump in right away. I am not talking about going overboard, but you have to socialize. You can't isolate yourself with just a few people.

I definitely have sympathy for Zach and agree that his problem is being socially inept. But let's face it, the BB house is not the real world. You have to work at being accepted. There are just not that many people there to choose from and they are going home quickly.

You have to become a part of the house or you are going to be bashed. It is just a part of the game. People are not there to make lifelong friends, they are there to win lots of money, and they are not going to go our of their way to be your friend.

I am not saying it is right or kind, I am just saying it is. And anyone who has watched any reality TV has to know that. They should also know that people are going to bash you behind your back, just as he has done to several others. If you take it personally and want revenge on that person, you lose focus on your goal.

Actually, I like Zach. I think he has a very dry and unusal sense of humor and probably is very kind. But I also recognize that in the BB house it is your responsiblity to find your place. No one is going to do it for you.

Dani is another story. I have very little sympathy for her. And since she is probably going to win a half million dollars, I doubt she needs my sympathy.

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 4:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
I like this friendship...

Ya, thanks to her disgusting dad!
Bless her heart!

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 4:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I get where you are coming from, Allietex, but I think it's luck of the draw--another year, another cast, and Zach could've acted exactly the same and been the cat's meow. ALL of them exhibit behavior that could've made them social pariahs: Dick's spitting and vile comments, Amber's odd visions, Dani's major league whining, Jess' inability to carry on a adult conversation, Eric's inability to sit through a meal at the table without acting like a five-year old, the list goes on. It's a crap shoot, IMO.

Zach has done well with the hand he's been dealt and he gets my admiration and respect, if only because he treated Jen like a human being on her last day in the house when no one else would. If that's the despicable behavior of a social pariah, then I'll happily cast my lot with in him and sit in the leper section.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 5:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I liked that as well. Zach is the kind of person who doesn't see BB as an exceptional part of his life. Just one more turn in the road. It's not going to affect him at all and that is good.

Bicbicz911
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08-20-2005

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 5:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bicbicz911 a private message Print Post    
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Everyone in the house is guilty of using someone else. It's the nature of the game.