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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 9: Fair to let Janie talk to HG's?: Archive through September 05, 2007 users admin

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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I absolutely LOVED the Dick and Janelle interactions!

Stopthemadness
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07-15-2005

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stopthemadness a private message Print Post    
Didn't look fair to me very bvious that Janie liked D/D more then sheliked the others. I couldn't figure out why she doesn't like Jess, then I figured out that Jess is a cheerleader and she was burned by the cheerleader in her season.
Added to say... I wonder how she feels about ED calling her a "hot Piece of A$$" As a woman I wouldn't like it much. Now if he said she was beautiful, smart and sweet, but a PoA????

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Total favortism of D/D, IMO...

Yleicht
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07-07-2007

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 7:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yleicht a private message Print Post    
And you know it's also funny too how soon everyone forgets all the mean nasty crap Janelle spewed during her reign in BB. I like Janelle too but she is/wasn't a saint. I even like Dick even though most of the time I think he's being a giant D**k. Give me a break. Eric is a likeable guy and had a great big "foot in mouth" moment! Get over it! I think it's interesting to watch Eric try and battle his personal feeling for Jess with his desire to win the game. Hate the way most of the houseguests treated Jen in the end(especially Eric!). It was just ugly. There isn't one single person in the house that hasn't showed an ugly side (well may Zack cuz he's pretty low-key. I guess it's just human nature under such conditions. Try to balance your desires to win versus establishing/keeping connections with eachother. Bottom line - there are redeeming qualities to each of the houseguests even though there are moments where they annoy the heck out me. On topic - from what I read in blogs/interviews with Jannelle and watching tonight - I don't think Janelle belonged on the show at all. What was the point! While maybe not intended, it gave some guests an ego-boost because it was obvious who she liked! That could be construed as an advantage.......

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
ok I dont have time to read. But after watching the show it was so obvious that Janelle had pure distain and ambivolence towards a few HGs.

her tone of voice told all.

Of course we never got to see the whole 45 mins so we need to believe the Eye witness accounts of the HGs.

I believe them, not janelle's mitigating version from the next day.

Stopthemadness
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07-15-2005

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 9:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stopthemadness a private message Print Post    
Anyone change their position after seeing the show?

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
no..did not see any ambivolence at all.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I haven't changed my position. I think Janelle showed a preference for Dick and Daniele but I don't think it affected the outcome of the competition.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
we still only saw 15 min of 3 hrs.....they did show her rooting more for some ppl but we will never really know all she did/didnt do

It was a fun segment

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
The thing is, in life, some people will like you more than they like others, so even if Janelle did come across as liking Dick more than the other hg, that is how it is sometimes in the rw.
So, again, it was fair.

Stopthemadness
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07-15-2005

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stopthemadness a private message Print Post    
In the real world it would be fair, but this isn't the real world it's the BB world. I don't think they will have past HG host comps in the future. I doubt BB thought there would be this many problems with America's (and mine) Sweetheart.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
they showed her making faces and rolling eyes to those who she didnt care for.

they also showed her going overboard with her catering to Dani and Dick making personal comments.

Who else got personal comments?

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Well, I noticed that Janelle got some personal comments by three of the hg.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
i meant that Janelle made personal comment TO which HGs?

only Dani and Dick from what I saw and what I heard from the HGs

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
I adored seeing Janelle. She looked beautiful. I'm glad she gave the cold shoulder to E/J.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 12:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
The main thing about all of this no matter how much we pick it to pieces, the houseguests don't seem to be upset about how Janelle was and how she acted. Some got more of a kick out of her being there and Eric said he put his foot in his mouth. If they thought her being there had swayed or given an unfair advantage to D/D or ANYONE, the others would be complaining and complaining non-stop. They are not complaining, so no harm, no foul, as far as I can tell. FWIW (And yes, I discussed this w/another poster, who knows who they are, but since she didn't post what we talked about, I am. :-))

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 1:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
they would be vortexed when talking aobut complaining in the DR.

Tvjunkie64
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09-04-2007

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 4:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvjunkie64 a private message Print Post    
Yep - she definitely showed preferencial treatment. Just like I figured. Her disdain for certain people was evident.

Go away <77>. Your 15 minutes is over.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 5:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Once again there is editing and perception. Remember, Zach talked in the live feeds about talking to Janelle about music. None of that was shown. During the comps, she could be heard encouraging everyone. Eric screwed up by trashing her before she came out from behind the curtain, so he knew not to talk to her much. Jess and Jameka were both focused on trying to win and didn't seem to be too interested in small talk. Danielle got some good interaction especially once she won. ED was just being the outgoing guy he is, and took advantage of the situation at hand. Had Eric not pissed her off, he might have tried to talk to her more. I know Janelle isn't a big fan of his, but I doubt she would have just blown him off if he hadn't been a jerk to start with. Of course, Eric isn't a fan of Janelle's so I doubt that convo could have gone too well anyway. So, people have perceptions based on how they feel about ED & Dani, how they feel about Janelle, and what was shown and what was talked about. If the entire raw footage of the comp had been shown, maybe some perceptions would be different. But at the end of the day, people have their biases and see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear.

Frogichik
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06-11-2002

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 6:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frogichik a private message Print Post    
The ONLY thing I saw was in the end when Eric apologized for being an a-hole and she said "that's OK" and then rolled her eyes and said "no, it's not" Other then that I didn't see any extra treatment to one house guest or another. She responded to those who engaged her. I haven't heard Jameka or Jess complain once about unfair treatment. If anything Janelle restrained herself from going off on Eric for him calling her Miss Piggy.

Scotchbright
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10-05-2006

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 6:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scotchbright a private message Print Post    
How was it UNFAIR to the competition? Janelle didn't sway the outcome of the competition by being there nor by her interactions or lack thereof with the houseguests.

She was there as a ratings boost for CBS and because she won the morphomatic competition in her season - and was the veto queen with seven wins. If she's doing this for her 'extra 15 minutes of fame' as someone said, can you also let Holly, Kaysar and Bunky know they need to give up their extra 15? They've been on Housecalls this season (Holly is on every Tuesday; Kaysar every Thursday and Bunky was on for a week plus).

With or without personal feelings expressed towards the houseguests the competition was NOT unfair and in the game itself, really, how does her interaction affect the overall game? This week Jessica and Jameka are nominated with Eric, Dani and Dick voting. Dani and Dick have the majority vote and will be voting out who makes their game better - and Janelle's presence in the game last week has nothing to do it.

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 6:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
I agree with you Scotchbright. The only person who could complain about Janie being a distraction during the veto was Dick and he was too busy flirting to care!

Realurker
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08-10-2004

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 6:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Realurker a private message Print Post    
Did anyone think this showed Janie's hosting skills? How much more entertaining she would be than Julie Chen? Davina on BB UK is so much fun!

Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
I watched with I think was a impartial eye as I am not a big Janelle fan. To me she was just more or less another HG from seasons past.

First I have to say she looked stunning in that yellow dress. Not a big fan of blonds in yellow, but she pulled it off and looked great.

I have to agree with the above posters that have said it is nearly impossible to make a call on 3 hours of interaction condensed down to 20 minutes.

So off of what saw I have to say I did not see anything she did that interfered with the game. Most assuredly I did not see her mess up Eric's game. The reason I say this is because she told him "That's okay". Even though she looked at Dick and rolled her eyes and said "it's not" she still left Eric with the impression it was no big deal. I found that to be very gracious of her. She could have just as easily have looked at Eric and said something along the lines of "You're an ass", but she didn't.

As far as Dick living large in Janelles comments of him being hot and smelling good, of course he is. My husband is 46 and if some young woman told him that, he would be grinning like a fool for days.

The other thing is I haven't seen the HG's make any kind of assumption on whether having Janelle there hurt or helped their game. It's not like they are sitting around now asking themselves or each other WWJanelleD.

IMO there was nothing unfair about having her there and allowing her to interact with the HG's. I think it was just something fun to have her host the POV, just like they have done in other seasons with past HG's and visitors.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 7:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Janelle interacted with those houseguests who interacted with HER. Daniele and Dick engaged her in conversation, and she responded in kind. From what we saw, Eric kept his mouth shut after his remark, and Jessica and Jameka didn't really engage her in anything. Dick and Daniele were excited to see Janelle, and Janelle responded. Just like any normal human being would.

There was nothing unfair there. Had there been, you can bet that the producers would've shut things down tout de suite! Janelle was the POV queen, and she rocked at the morphomatic on her season(s).

BTW, I absolutely disagree with the comment that Eric is a "likeable guy." I think he's totally unlikeable. And the comment he made prior to Janelle walking out was inappropriate and rude. I'm sure he felt like an absolute idiot and I'm also sure it impacted his game. And he deserved it. Janelle handled it superbly.