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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 8:28 pm
Now that we've gotten to the last couple of weeks it is clear to see where HGs have gone wrong. I just don't know what on Earth would have possessed Kail, Zach, Mike and Nick to form an alliance so early on? This, in my opinion was the first maneuver that helped to shape this year's quasi-boring season.
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Bbfaninwa
Member
07-26-2004
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 8:35 pm
Yeah, Rehtse... they should have learned from the "horsemen" alliance... tisk tisk
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 8:40 pm
Well we can't forget Dustin's offering himself up as a pawn...
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Marmosquirm
Member
09-10-2003
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 8:53 pm
Not getting Dick out when he was on the block. Eric's decision to not use the veto last week - he should've screwed Dick and Danielle before they screw him.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 8:54 pm
I think everything's gone just fine so far..
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 8:55 pm
two of the Horsemen Alliance made it to the Finals. Two out of Four. Good odds.
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 8:57 pm
An early alliance is not necessarily a bad thing. One of the most successful BB alliances of all time was Jason and Danielle, formed very early on. They made it to F3 together. The 4 Horsemen from BB4 was actually quite successful as well, two of them won in the end. I think the Kail et al alliance didn't work because Nick was not committed to it, and betrayed them early on. Zack was blind to this and also was not really dedicated to Kail since he likes to work mainly with men. Plus they didn't really talk to each other! I do agree that it was a stupid move for Dustin to put himself up. But in general it's so hard to pick the worst moves fairly, since Eric has been forced to make so many dumb manoeuveres against his own game and in favour of the Donatos on account of AC.
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Jbw
Member
08-14-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 9:17 pm
Jessica telling Eric about the Dani/Dick plan to backdoor him was a bad decision. If she would have kept quite and joined with D&D, she would have been in the strongest alliance. An alliance that kicked butt in HOHs and POVs. Yes, she would have been the #3 member in a 3-member alliance, but if their alliance would have lost a HOH, she wouldn't have been the first target. Dani or Dick would have been the first to go if someone else won a HOH competition.
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 9:37 pm
Amber jumping from Dick's side to Dustin's when Dick went on the block.
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Carochar
Member
07-25-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 9:38 pm
Jen cooking those turkey burgers before she went in the storage room to destroy Dick's cigarettes which meant she was totally susceptible after she was chastized about it in the DR. She should have spent her time making slop cookies so later the other HGs might not have been so offended by her blatant breaking of the rules. After all those comments of wanting to be...nevermind, she's out of the house. Sorry.
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Mr_furd
Member
08-01-2007
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 10:33 pm
Kail's biggest mistake was forming the group, not that it was a stupid mistake, but being the HOH, was not a smart move. Of course anyone would sign up for that.. Dick's major problem is his mouth. It would have been wise of him, to either stuff cigarettes in it or spit out of it..otherwise keep it closed...(side note, if he is in final two..I hope he does not win..and he uses the 50K to pay for family counseling) He at least has played the game..and would deserves second place. Jessica's major mess up is....Eric..(side note..him being controlled..aka America's player....another side note..yeah I think they are a cute couple and should live in a cottage with a picket fence and have adorable children) She needs to ditch the guy..look over at Dick, flash her baby blues..and say..let's do the final two..)..then look at Eric and say..okay I got the down payment on the house. Whatca got? Jameka, although I support her choice to express her belifes(sp) she is a lousy player and she needs to go, so Dick would have been wise to be nice..guess he does not want to win.(..Dustin, Jen, Amber..and if Jameka goes..hey Dick do the math..) Although we know that Dani is a whinnner..and it seems she has dumped her guy for Nick..hey it says alot about Dani and relationships..but I guess Dick,(her "ex" and Nick will have alot to talk about. Zack.....too much too late..nuff said
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Govols
Member
07-19-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 10:39 pm
Jbw~so true. Poor Jess is gonna be kicking her own butt when she gets out.
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Aus10
Member
09-28-2000
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 4:57 am
To me.. the biggest maneuver that went wrong was from the casting directors.. Thinking we would like any of these people. I don't care for any of them and am so ready for this to be over and next year to start.
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Mrsmel
Member
07-04-2007
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 5:18 am
I think the Kail alliance went wrong because they picked Nick to be in it. Kail, Mike and Zach would have been loyal as hell. They should have waited to know him a little better before asking him to join. They didn't know he would be so likely to "shoplift the pootie" and spill the beans and for the good it did him he still got kicked out! The LNC 7, well that Americas player with his hinky votes and that was voters fault. The LNC 5, that was also a casualty of Americas player and a combination Dustin's arrogance. The Jess/Eric duo, if broken up this week will also be AP. All in all most of went wrong has had to do with what "WE" wanted and was not really their fault (except for the pootie thing)
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Sminger
Member
08-03-2007
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 6:41 am
Trusting anyone in the house is what I think went wrong. Amber (although I did not care for Her at all) should have kicked Eric in the gonads on the way out the door. Dustin should have pulled out his nipple rings!
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 6:42 am
Kail shold not have talked Jen out of nominating Nick. Dick would have been gone week 2.
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Geri
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 6:54 am
The biggest problem with the Mrs. Robinson alliance was Kail's paranoia about them talking to each other. With no communication, there was no trust so it wasn't a strong alliance.
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Scribe
Member
08-16-2000
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 8:08 am
Dustin taking treats in the competition when he was supposed to win ... stupid ... lost respect of his alliance and screwed the outcome ... his destiny was written from that point on. Amber's liberal use of her daughter as a subject for a death promise - got her stuck with her choice the first time ... then she began to use it over and over later such that had she been called on to follow through she might have found herself with competing death promises on her daughters life..but then what can you say about Amber except "pathetic" Of course Eric should have put one of the dynamic duo on the block in place of Amber last week but then cant blame him since he is AP and we didnt tell him to do that . Jess - always listening to Eric/AP - now that is the big mistake
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 8:09 am
Kail's mistake was two-fold: forming an alliance while she was HOH (and therefore people would agree to join her) and forming an alliance with people who really didn't like each other much or have much in common. She watched BB, knew how important alliances were, but missed the subtle points of how to form an effective alliance. Dustin's mistake was his all-consuming arrogance. He thought he ruled the house (see Burger King robe) and thought he would never EVER be evicted. Nick's mistake was being so involved with Daniele, so that he became an immediate target. Add to that his general, original likability factor, and he became a threat to many in the house. Carol's mistake was just sitting back and doing nothing. Joe's mistake was opening his mouth on day one and blabbing way too much information. He made an immediate enemy in Dustin, whereas he could've worked it so that they had a covert alliance. Jen's mistake was obvious. Even as she seemed to become less self-involved as the weeks went on, she still totally alienated the entire house by blatantly ignoring the "rules" and eating while she was supposed to be on slop. I can't remember Mike, so that is probably his mistake. Amber's mistake was, oh gawd, where do I start? Crying at the drop of a hat. Constantly talking about the good people (but in WHO'S opinion?). Constantly saying how she needed the money to support her family, yet rarely saying anything about how she hoped her daughter was doing well while she was gone. And kissing, constantly, that stoopid flip flop. Jessica's mistake is going to be her absolute dependence on Eric. Jameka's mistake is going to be her absolute devotion to god. I'm not sure Zach, Dani, or Dick have made any fatal mistakes yet. And Eric's AP twist remains to be seen if agreeing to it was a mistake (although at least he'll exit the house with more cash than all but the winner).
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 8:40 am
I agree that Kail made the biggest mistake in this years game. She jumped onto a band wagon that had no driver. As HOH making a deal for the whole game before it's really even started is not smart. You don't know how these other people play and the liklihood that they are going to win any comps to help you protect your position is unknown. I would only make a deal for this week and next, and see where it goes from there.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 9:33 am
Maneuvers that went wrong: US (BB fans and addicts) asking for a VOTE! This year would have been so different if not for our supposed vote=AP.
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Battlestar
Member
07-27-2005
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 9:37 am
Boberg : to me that has been the best part
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 9:57 am
me too Battlestar, once he started voting for us instead of himself.
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2addicted
Member
07-17-2006
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 10:14 am
I think you nailed it Costacat-- that's an excellent analysis. I would only add that Jen made many mistakes before she broke the eating rules. She told too many lies that could get caught, tried to align with too many players and let jealousy over Nick affect her game play. I agree that Zach, Dani, Dick, Jessica & Eric have played the best game and that's why I was happy when I thought Jameka was going this week. I understand that it might be better (emphasis on might) to evict Jessica this week, but it's a risky move that could backfire.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 10:23 am
booting Jen. unforgivable. not booting ED. equally unforgiveable.
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