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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 9: Blunder by Zach???: Archive through September 06, 2007 users admin

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Kidsatm
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07-08-2005

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kidsatm a private message Print Post    
Nutsy, the scenario being suggested is if he used the veto on Eric, he & Eric would have voted Dani out.

Nutsy
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08-14-2001

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nutsy a private message Print Post    
No way would Zach have voted out Dani. No way.

Peepinagain
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07-23-2005

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Peepinagain a private message Print Post    
Zach totally screwed himself but if I was Eric I would've stood up and said I know you have a deal with d/d, so did I and they screwed me over and they'll screw you over as well. You now have the power to breakup the couple who should have been broken up weeks ago. Veto me or Jameka and make Danelle go on the block and evict her! This is your only chance to win the whole thing NOT come in 3rd. 3rd place wins NOTHING. This is your chance to make the power play and take all power away from Dick. I know you have the balls to do this so please do it!!!!!

Do you think Zack would've used the veto then?

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Zach wants no more fights in the house!!!

Can you imagine what would be like the house with Daniele gone now???? TAKE COVER!!!

Nutsy
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08-14-2001

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nutsy a private message Print Post    
No. Zach never trusted Eric, and he really does want to go with Dick to F2. He would have never voted out Dani, cuz as Spunky says, take cover!!

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
I think he is playing the odds and it was a choice not a blunder. First if he did that he would have lost 2 jury votes, and one connection for after the game that I'll detail later. Second everyone in the house and many out here (myself included) feel that no one can win up against Jameka. And I really do not want someone who sat in the house all game and let God play her game win. Sorry don't want it, don't want her to believe life works that way etc. But I digress.

Also I think he trusts D/D to take him to F3, which is his best shot. Who knows what Jameka would do. Plus if Eric stayed then he automatically becomes the largest power player in the house IMHO.

Last, I've read here and in other threads that he has hopes of something w/Dani after the house. I respectfully think you are thinking of the wrong Donato!! He has spoken of realizing how much he loves his ex and would love to see if he could get her back after the game. But his eyes glaze over adoringly and near worship when Dick casualy mentions the concerts he can get him in and the folks he can introduce him to. Remember they are both local. I think he cannot WAIT to hang with Dick after the game and meet folks that only came out of his stereo or Ipod until now!!! That's my take on it.

Peepinagain
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07-23-2005

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Peepinagain a private message Print Post    
If Zach thinks Dick is taking him to F2 then he is indeed brainless. Dick's gonna keep the money in the family.

Peepinagain
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07-23-2005

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Peepinagain a private message Print Post    
sorry double post


Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
When has Zach even given any indication he would do anthing other than what he did tonight? He stayed with his alliance and has done well by that strategy so far. That's how he wants to play the game. Maybe the numbers will go his way, maybe not. I don't think he's going to lose any sleep over this decision.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
Zach only has had this alliance since this past week!

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
Zach knows that he'll have to win F3 HOH to get to final 2, and that if he wins F3 HOH D/D can do Rock Paper Scissors to see who goes with him, as he thinks he'll lose to them both anyway.

Zach did the right thing. He knows all he and D/D have to do is keep Jameka from wining HOH and POV (and in both cases it's 3 against 1), then he's in F3 and has 2 chances to make it to the third phase of F3 HOH, which is the best he can hope for.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Zach has been aligned with Dick and Dani for much longer--tonight they had his back when they didn't put him on the block--he had theirs in return. No one else in the house would've given him that.

Look, the Donatos are not saints--they are opportunists. They would've had Zach out on a dime last week if he hadn't won HOH. But Eric had been gunning for Zach for some time and so has Jameka. I think he made the right choice for HIM and one that's completely in line with his character. Why do people expect him to suddenly start twilling his moustache and tie Dani to the train tracks?

Cmist
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09-20-2005

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cmist a private message Print Post    
I think Zach did the right thing for himself.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I don't think Zach hurt himself in this game by deciding to not veto Eric.

He wants a relationship with Dick after the game ends, he is in the house with two people who at least tolerated him throughout the game and he has as good or better a chance of getting to the final three, winning and getting to final two, than he would if Eric was still in the game.

Sure it would have been a fun and exciting play for the fans if Zach had used the veto, but we are talking about what is best for Zach.

Peepinagain
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07-23-2005

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Peepinagain a private message Print Post    
I don't. Just by d/d track record Zach should know he can't trust them. And its common sense they'll take each other to f2. Zach had a chance to win the whole thing by getting dani out now the best he'll do is 3rd. and Dick will continue to think he can get ahead by bullying people.

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
Peep, boy I sure do agree with you! I really believe that Zach "gladly" handed the F2 to D/D tonight by not using that veto which would have given Dick no alternative other than to put up Daniele. Perhaps Zach does make boatloads of money already and is just there for the "experience." LOL That's what it almost seems like to me with how he appears to be enabling the duo to win over him. If Zach thinks he'd win over D/D in F2...I think he might turn out to be sadly mistaken with the way the other HGs seemed to feel about him most of the game. I was rooting for Zach as the underdog for a long time now too. I don't know. Maybe he thinks he's still going to be able to pull something off. At this point the final four are blah, blah, blah and blah to me. Don't much care.

Good grief...just exactly how many more days until BB9 begins?? Can we get please The Owl to start a countdown now???

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 8:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Biggest Blunder in BB history IMO. He out Marsallased Marsallas fer gawd's sake. How can you come this far and be content with third? He has GOT to know that D/D will not take him to final 2 and he watched them lie through their teeth to the alliance that got them through the week before.

And how did Zach have a deal with D/D prior to this week since they had the final 4 deal with E/J? He may have thought he did, but after what Eric said, two brain cells should have accidentally collided and he should have had an epiphany.

Lordy, it's like he's so needy for attention, a half million bucks comes in second to even that.

Deluded. Dumb. Depressing.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
I really don't think he even considered using it.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 8:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Nope, never even crossed his tiny mind. No doubt about it. Wonder if there was a code from his new owner? Two eyelash batts from Dani for Eric and one for Jameka? Yeech.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Ok, for those who think Zach messed up, let's think this through. He put up Dani she was evicted. Aside from the 2 jury votes he lost, let's say he doesn't win HoH. Eric wins he nominates Dick and Zach. Jameka wins and nominates Zach and Dick. If Jam was voting Zach was out for sure. Not certain the other way. But do you guys really think he would have a better shot at F3 w/out D/D??? And if by some miracle he made it to F2, he then had even less of a shot.

I really don't see this as a good strategic move for anyone BUT fans who wanted to see D/D broken up. But as for Zach, no benefit at all IMHO

Bygdatty
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08-25-2007

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 8:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bygdatty a private message Print Post    
It was a blunder by Zach because he's not a very good player. You ALWAYS break up a power couple. It was the last one in the house. All he did was play for 3rd place.

Peepinagain
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07-23-2005

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 9:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Peepinagain a private message Print Post    
Yup I agree. With Dani gone, Zach only had to deal with Jam, Eric and Dick who are not good at winning. Also he would've had Eric and Jam playing to get Dick out. Dick would've had the target on his back and Zach could've gone back to laying low. After breaking up D/D he would've won points in the jury house, how many wanted to do that? Zach had a great chance of winning money, now he has none.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 9:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
I agree with Byg. (And that rhymes.)

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 9:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
Zach has always wanted to go to the end with Dick, not Dani. I think it would have been a good move for him to get Dani out while he could without any revenge possible from Dick.

Mysti
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09-28-2005

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 9:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mysti a private message Print Post    
Hopefully the Donato that wins this mess will buy him a nice gift for helping them!