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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 2:52 pm
Spunky, I agree that Dick wants to take credit for everything Dani thinks of. I suspect that by giving Jameka the bad news and then saving her on Thursday he'll garner some good will from her when he's in F2. He made it sound like Dani didn't have the guts to be there to tell her she's leaving.
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Max
Moderator
08-12-2000
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 3:39 pm
Dick takes credit for everything. He even told Zach today that he's been "playing for two" the whole game and griped about how hard it is to basically carry Danielle. Which I find funny, because I think she's actually the better player and he tends to ruin her game with his big mouth and his temper. I don't know about Jameka taking too kindly to this blindsiding plan. I think she will be appalled at the lack of ethics displayed and will be sure to cast her jury vote to anyone BUT Dick. She seems to be valuing playing a "clean" game more than anything. A lie is a lie, even if it keeps her from being the first of two to be evicted on THursday. And I agree that I don't think she'll accept any last-minute dealing from Dick by swearing she won't put D/D up if she wins HOH (or use the veto in a way that would hurt them). I don't think she would give her word and go back on it and I don't think she would do something against her grain just to save herself in the game. She's more apt to think that it's another "test from God" to see if she's strong or not. But only time will tell!
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:24 pm
Man, Daniele still doesn't know??? They've been sleeping the whole day But let's say Father and Daughter don't end up fighting over this (Dick's big mouth) and Daniele throws HOH to her father as I predicted and as she confirmed last night, and let's say she still wants to keep Jameka for F3 as she said but wants to keep Zach for F4 then Eric and Jameka on the block, with only Zach and Daniele voting. Dick would split the tie (in the event of a tie) and kicks Eric out. This according to Daniele's plan. But let's say Eric does manage to win even if distracted for Jessica's eviction and is mad mad at Daniele and Dick and allies with Jameka and Zach (Boy, he would have to know Zach was in on it the whole time), don't you think he would nominate D and D and either Daniele or Dick could be the second eviction for Thursday because Eric would have to break the tie since Zach would vote for Daniele to go and Jameka for Dick to go. WOW!!!!! ooops, Eric would have to win POV as well... fat chance
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Donut
Member
07-31-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:30 pm
can someone please help me analyze D/D's decision to evict Jess? I still dont get why it helps them.. I know it gives them better odds of HOH, but it seems to me that if it was EJDD in HOH that Zach would go no matter who wins, but if Eric wins in a E,D,D HOH, then one of D/D go for sure.. So arent they taking a huge chance?? I also wish they would keep Jess because they have been pretty honest and upfront so far and i would have really liked to see them continue that way. Help me see why I should want Jess out.. Cuz at this point, even tho I have been routing for D/D, I think I would route for Eric to get back at them for screwing Jess...
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:35 pm
Donut, it's because Daniele figured out that it's easier to beat Zach and Jameka in competitions than Eric and Jessica and that they will control the game till F3, and by having only D/D and Eric playing for HOH they have more chances to win it (thinking that Eric would be too distracted to play well). I describe the other scenario though (above) with Eric winning.... then they're screwed.
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Donut
Member
07-31-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 8:34 pm
thanks but i still dont get it.. Cuz I would think that Eric avenging Jess will be a much more powerful Eric, and I dont see why they think Jameka is weak cuz I think she has been storing it up and will be a powerhouse. I just dont get the assumption that they will be easier to beat. Plus havent they figured out that BB decides who will win by gearing the comp to that person anyways...
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 9:14 pm
I totally agree with your analysis Donut, which is why I think they are overplaying this week and are way overconfident. This always happens every year, plans are made based on the assumption that certain people can't win HOH and then they do! As you say, if they honour their alliance this week then the Donatos are guaranteed F4 with no one after them next HOH- but if they evict Jess they will have both Jameka and Eric gunning for them. Since Jameka has to sit out one more HOH there will be a one in three chance that Eric will win HOH and put them both up. I think he will be highly motivated to do so. Then as long as Zak doesn't win POV, one of them will go home for sure since Jameka will vote against whichever one of them is on the block and Eric will break the tie. I'm sure she won't keep any promise they may have forced her to make and she will have their betrayal of Jess as her excuse. The following HOH, the remaining Donato will have a 1 in 3 chance at HOH. Assuming Zack stays loyal, there will be a 50% chance at a very crucial POV, if not 25%. So- if they stick with the plan, they are assured that both of them will be in the house at the end of the day Thursday. If they vote Jess out, it will be war and they have to have everything work perfectly in their favour to make F4. I really hope they vote Jess out!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 9:22 pm
I think she has been storing it up and will be a powerhouse. jameka can store it up all she wants. A large framed woman is never going to be able to beat a tiny boned barely 100lb woman in any kind of endurance battle. gravity is a strong strong force when you are hanging, standing, arms out holding a key etc. I think Zach has proven that he can be athletic when need be. I think that scares D n D.
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 9:25 pm
Sunshyne, you may be right, although I wouldn't call Jam large framed. However, if Dani and Dick don't win HOH on Thursday she might not even be around for the final endurance comp.
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Ambi
Member
08-11-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 9:40 pm
I too think Eric will win the next HoH sice BB does not have time for a physical challenge and 2nd eviction otherwise in a one hour show. It will be a quick Q and A designed for Eric to win. This should not be and I do not think it is fair but am almost positive it will go down this way.
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Donut
Member
07-31-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 11:39 pm
thanks kmjm... My only question now is that I have read that E and Jess said they would put up D and D, so that they need to go against them now. But then I have read that E said that Z will go if the Donatos stick with the deal. So I still dont know what's really going on! People are also saying that AP should be to vote Jess out so that Eric will look stupid if he tries to avenge Jess after voting with D and D... I don't know... I just liked the idea of an honest battle between E,Jess,D and D to the end and without having to see Jam on my tv anymore..
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:46 am
Donut, the announcement of the Double Eviction (there is a whole thread below) will change their strategy (to evict Jessica) and they will play it safe and evict Jameka first. Daniele and Dick will have to play harder to win it against Jessica and Eric but they'll prefer to play it clean than dirty when they're put on the spot (Live Show). They'll get Jameka out first. However if they really want a better chance at winning against Eric, it would be better to evict Jessica but I doubt they'll have the guts to do it with that Double Eviction soon afterwards and they'll take their chances.
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Delilah
Member
07-08-2005
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:58 am
Won't it also matter if Jameka "accepts" the deal from D/D? I mean, if they approach Jameka right before Thursday's vote and try to make the deal, but Jameka says no ... well, then wouldn't D/D almost HAVE to vote out Jameka (first vote) on Thursday? They would be putting themselves in danger if they didn't ... not to mention, look ridiculous.
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Max
Moderator
08-12-2000
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:00 am
I'm not sure they'll know about the double eviction before the first vote. If I recall, they don't get told about it until after the first eviction. At this point, anything could happen.
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Archiecat
Member
08-16-2006
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:07 am
Question: Would it be possible to go ahead with one eviction and HOH ahead of time to show on tape on Thursday with the second POV and eviction live?
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:25 am
Aren't they all told to pack prior to the first live vote? Wouldn't that clue them in to the double eviction and give them a short time to huddle and discuss the vote? Or are they told to run and pack during a 2 minute commercial break?
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Irishcoffee
Member
08-23-2007
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:25 am
I think Dani, Eric and maybe Dick will realize it's a double eviction immediately since the vote will be the first thing to happen on Thursday. Usually it is about half way through the show. As fans of the show, they will remember the fast forward day last year...at least I hope they will.
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Kidsatm
Member
07-08-2005
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:25 am
Brenda, last year they were all told to pack shortly before the show. If they do that again, it should clue everyone in to the double eviction.
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Irishcoffee
Member
08-23-2007
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:28 am
Kidsatm, nope, only the 2 original nominees were told to pack before the show. After the second eviction, the HGs packed Chicken George's things and put them in the SR so the show could give them to him.
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Kidsatm
Member
07-08-2005
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:31 am
Thanks Irish, I guess I was remembering what had been previously reported rather than what actually happened . Does anyone know if Dick & Dani have discussed the possibility of double eviction and would that change their current strategy?
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:34 am
i hope eric is not clued into this by the DR. that would be unfair. he seems to get a lot of info there. ie: who's popular and who is not.
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Delilah
Member
07-08-2005
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:37 am
Kisdatm - for weeks they were all speculating about how it was going to be double evcition week ... I think beginning with Dustin, so maybe for about three weeks. Now they have kinda of gotten off of that. Although I thought I read somewhere that Daniele was telling Dick that last week would have been the perfect time to have a double evicition. (Not sure if she meant game timeline wise or for her own personal situation). So I think, basically, its not on their radar right now.
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Ddfan
Member
08-04-2007
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:38 am
Does anyone know if Dick & Dani have discussed the possibility of double eviction and would that change their current strategy? This was there conv earlier this morning: Also during this conversation Dani was saying how she wished things - Penelopewould speed up, that she's tired of all the sitting around. Dick said the time is good to figure things out. Dani said double eviction would have happened last week if it was going to happen.
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Kidsatm
Member
07-08-2005
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:42 am
Thanks Delilah & Ddfan, I have been having trouble catching up .
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Kidsatm
Member
07-08-2005
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:45 am
And Delilah I agree with your assessment, they really need to have Jameka's reaction to their deal before they make the final decision and as others have mentioned there is no guarantee Jameka will take it. In addition to her faith issues, she may see that there is no way to trust it.
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