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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 9: There's A Line In the Sand....Where is the Level Playing Field?: Archive through September 08, 2007 users admin

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Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
I should say though, that I'm not saying that this game does have any integrity - but AG is giving the perception that she wants to have a show with integrity - so by letting this go, she is showing that she wasn't serious about it

Tanith
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08-25-2006

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 9:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tanith a private message Print Post    
Kearie, ITA.

He has to make a point about how everyone wanted him gone Week 1 (or was it 2) and he's still there. He really needs to lay it out for them without being too Zachy.

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
I've been reading some posts referring to Dick's letter and his son putting in some secret coding or something, but I'm not quite totally sure how that would effect the game at this point. What information could his son have put in at this point when they are down to the final four already? I would think by Zach's nominations it would be pretty apparent where his feelings lie as far as the rest of the game unfolding. (Though I suppose Zach could still help D/D win the veto if he wants one to come off and Jameka to go up. However I'd highly doubt that because D/D would still be gunning for Zach for the fact that he put both of them up and one could have potentially gone to sequester. It just wouldn't make sense.)

Can anyone shed more light on this letter incident and why it seems to be so important? I must be missing something.

Ddfan
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08-04-2007

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ddfan a private message Print Post    
Do I think they are like this out of the house?? YOU BETCHA!

Fine, than that holds true to everyone elses horrendous actions....

Lets not forget Erics nasty remarks about incest and other nasty horendous remarks ect...

And Ambers Anti- Semtic remarks about Jews and all her cussing when she is this remarkable christian of God.....

And "sweet good" Jam calling other peopls mothers a B----!

Can't just hold that over on Dick.... he never once claimed he was anything other than who he is...

while all the others claimed to be other than what they really are .... that shows "no Integrity" as a human being.

just sayin' jmo

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
It's important KC because Dick broke the rules and bragged about it. He should be penalized, but nothing is being done.

Tanith
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08-25-2006

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tanith a private message Print Post    
Ddfan, let's add Dani's remarks about Asians being cheap to that list! Heinous.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Tanith, that would be Daniele and Amber talking about how Asians were cheap when it came to tips.

Tanith
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08-25-2006

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tanith a private message Print Post    
Hyper, TY. Yes, Amber as well.

Ddfan
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08-04-2007

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ddfan a private message Print Post    
BB didn't give Dick that letter on his first HOH for that very reason .... I am sure they looked over the letter themselves. I don't think CBS stupid.

BB knew that whatever code it was would have no effect at the time of giving it to Dick.

Eric Jen and Jess were all out of the house at this time .... otherwise BB wouldn't of given him that letter if they knew it would give him a heads up... .

That is why BB "joked" with him about not sharing the info.... it had absalutely no bearing at this point in the game .....

That is how I see the whole thing.

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
I don't understand what other hgs bad comments have to do with it being unfair that Dick is getting away with cheating.

Deeva
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07-26-2006

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Deeva a private message Print Post    
For those of you who want to be heard, here it is:

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(818) 325-6900

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
I see. So HGs letters cannot contain anything "game-related" in any manner and Dick's son tried to get by that with some code? It would make sense that even though they're family they shouldn't be able to talk game with their relations. I thought there might be some consent signed beforehand that BB gets to read any correspondence first before HGs receive it, but maybe not? Who was Dick bragging to about it, Daniele? I highly doubt there would be any penalty nomination at this point in the game. They would want to go after CBS if they felt they were wronged, and if D/D are as popular with fans as is believed, there would be an uproar coming from that end too.

I know that I read on here that something in Zach's letter from home really seemed to change his view on things. I guessing it may have been some general advice to him, such as saying "play with integrity" etc., but nothing about individual HGs. I could see the distinct difference between the two letters in that case.

I_wings
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12-22-2006

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send I_wings a private message Print Post    
What is the wording of the rule about communicating with the outside world? I'm just wondering if the rule is that letters from the outside cannot contain game info, or does it just say that BB has the right to review/reject content of said letters?

Lucymac
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07-06-2005

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lucymac a private message Print Post    
I doubt BB knew the letter was coded and that is why he wasn't given that on his first HOH. Didn't he get a letter from his mother then? It was just the luck of the draw that he got his mother's letter first.

And if this letter has no bearing at this point, why did he say there was something that could be very useful down the road. And how would BB possibly know that it was coded? What was the clue? Sorry, but I'm not buying that.

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
None of us have seen the BB rulebook, although we know it exists. We can only assume that Dick had Vincent write to him with outside info in a secret code to avoid detection because he knew it was against the rules. Also, since BB goes to great lengths to avoid outside influence in other contexts it makes sense.

However I also thought it was against the rules to verbally abuse and sexually harass other hgs, but it seems I was wrong about that.

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
It could just be Dick trying to bluff something now that he's on the block again right now and it's getting toward the end of the game, or would any of the info have something to do with the jury house and how to play things in there as far as persuading various HGs how to vote in the event that he or Daniele is evicted to sequester? That would be my thinking. Maybe what approach to take with the jury members?

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
The issue isn't whether the info was useful, it's the act of cheating that matters.

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
I agree Kmjm. It's the covertness that makes it seem suspect.

I think CBS should publish the "The Complete Guide to Big Brother" handbook, which includes all of the rules and a copy of the contract that all contestants have to sign. They could include updates on all former contestants to make it fun too. I know that Real World and Road Rules did that several times. (Because years ago I actually bought the book!) Let's see if anyone's reading this and a book comes out in the next year or so! LOL It would probably be a bestseller!

Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
I think Zach's Dad sent him a coded letter too. Why else would he turn on D/D and want to keep Jameka? She hates him and he hates her.

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
I'd love that Kc, but you know it's never going to happen. If they publish the rulebook, then they'll actually have to follow the rules!

I_wings
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12-22-2006

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send I_wings a private message Print Post    
Thanks Kmjm!

Lucymac
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07-06-2005

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lucymac a private message Print Post    
I think Zach's Dad sent him a coded letter too. Why else would he turn on D/D and want to keep Jameka? She hates him and he hates her

I don't think it was any code that told him to do that. It's just common sense. Either Dick or Dani from what we have seen have a better shot of winning the final HOH than Jameka. Zach wants Daniele out, who probably has the best shot so it is just a matter of increasing his odds on winning. He is also smart enough to figure out if D/D are there, either of them take each other to final 2. With one of them gone and if it is just between Zach and Jameka, he has a much better shot of being picked for final 2. He didn't need any code for that. He was just playing smart.

Ddfan
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08-04-2007

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ddfan a private message Print Post    
I think Zach's Dad sent him a coded letter too. Why else would he turn on D/D and want to keep Jameka? She hates him and he hates her.

I totally agree with you!

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
If Zack's Dad sent him a letter with a previously agreed on secret code to give him inside info, then Zack should be penalized too. I'm all for equal penalties. However, there's not a shred of proof that he did.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
What info could be so "inside" as to even matter. By the time it was written things could change.