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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 9: There's A Line In the Sand....Where is the Level Playing Field?: Archive through September 08, 2007 users admin

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Spunky
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10-08-2001

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Oh for heaven's sake!! Zach received an encouraging letter to play with integrity.

Vincent wrote a coded letter... that's the difference. (not only that, it was planned before entering the house, it is cheating just as Jen did but she paid for it. Dick did not pay for it).

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
Zach and Jameka do not and have not "hated each other". That is a fantasy picture that viewers painted of them. They both have clearly affirmed there was no issue, and just a small misunderstanding.

As far as "turning on D/D/" The Donatos turned on every single person who has walked through those doors to date. They are the King and Queen of deal breakers in that house.

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
ITA Loppes...I never saw the hate between them at all....I've always wondered how that got started. They hopefully are fixing to get that rude awakening some have wanted for awhile. This is for JEN...do this for Jen Z/J!! All my energy today to you.

I love it Z/J have the HOH room to do this. weeeeee!

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
And how did Jen pay for it...she got a penalty nom...big deal...she knew she was going anyway so what did the pen. nom mean. NOTHING. She made a remark to Jameka about being jealous she was eating and kept feeding her face. As far as the coding goes, I don't buy it. So, Dick said they had a code...big deal. They have all said something in that house that isn't true. I personally don't think BB would give a letter that has been "coded" that would give someone an advantage in the game. I know from reading the threads that most people have this conspiracy notion that BB is setting up the win for the Donatos. That can work for other players too. At some point there have been "alot" of things and eviction changes that could fall into the conspiracy category. Personally I don't buy it. Yes, I do believe they influence (to some degree) the DR sessions but I do not believe the winner has been already decided by BB. We the viewers love or hate these people intensly...those in the house do not. They ALL seem very friendly at the wrap party and even state it is a game...they have no hard feelings. I think we take it more seriously than they do.

Damick6
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07-01-2005

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Damick6 a private message Print Post    
BB didn't give Dick that letter on his first HOH for that very reason .... I am sure they looked over the letter themselves. I don't think CBS stupid.

BB knew that whatever code it was would have no effect at the time of giving it to Dick.


How do you know this Ddfan?

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
I personally don't think BB would give a letter that has been "coded"

the whole idea behind the code was to avoid BB's detection

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
Don't tell me Zach has been playing the game and now he's out for himself and not to help D/D get to the end? lol

Damick6
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07-01-2005

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Damick6 a private message Print Post    
As far as "turning on D/D/" The Donatos turned on every single person who has walked through those doors to date. They are the King and Queen of deal breakers in that house.

We are supposed to ignore that because it is all in the name of good game play. Their word means nothing.

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
Dick's "coded" letter was written weeks ago and was of no importance by the time he got it.

Zach's "non-coded" letter led him to change his play based on what his father said.

So exactly which outside influence effected the game?

Ddfan
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08-04-2007

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ddfan a private message Print Post    
Dick's "coded" letter was written weeks ago and was of no importance by the time he got it.

Zach's "non-coded" letter led him to change his play based on what his father said.

So exactly which outside influence effected the game?


NONE!

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
Zach's letter wasn't written with the intent to cheat

Dick's was - just because it came late doesn't negate that the intent was there

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
The difference is that Dick admitted to the Cameras about the plan between he and Vincent.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Zach's UNcoded letter was simply his father telling him to play honorably.

Dick's CODED letter (Dick's own words not mine) told him who not to trust in the game.

There is no comparison.

Cheating does not have to have a successful outcome to still be "cheating".

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
that extra penalty vote may not have made any difference because Jen was gone anyway...

but the fact of the matter is that she did get penalized for it. Dick did not. I'm just glad he can no longer say to Jen "you damaged the integrity of the game"... Oh Lord, he went in the house and didn't give a flying lobster about integrity..

Dbald
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08-04-2007

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dbald a private message Print Post    
yes but Dick never claimed to have integrity and he always announced what he was doing...he was going to spend a day berating someone to weaken them at competition time...he has never claimed to be one of the "good people" and I for one, if I were in there playing for 500000 i only hope i played the game he did. he and he alone deserves to win. he has played since the beginning and it isnt about honesty, loyalty or integrity it is about 500000 dollars.

Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
I don't understand why Zach's coded letter doesn't matter but Dick's coded letter does matter.

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
is there proof zach's letter was coded? no

is there proof dick's letter was coded? yes

Streetsmart
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08-06-2006

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Streetsmart a private message Print Post    
Zach didnt have a coded letter for crying out loud!

DICK ADMITTED AND BRAGGED ABOUT CHEATING!

Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
I think Dick was just kidding around about the letter being coded.

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
I hear ya, Streetsmart

I'm dumbfounded. seriously.

Sincebb1
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08-22-2005

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 1:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sincebb1 a private message Print Post    
It seemed Dick was too specific about the exact wording, in the letter he received, to be kidding about it.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 1:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I think Zach's letter was coded for sure..he sure changed overnight after reading it. Sometimes you don't have to say your letter is coded you just have to act like it.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 1:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
There is no proof that either letter was coded. There is evidence that Zach's letter changed his game, and there is Dick *saying* Vincent wrote in code.

I find it interesting that after all the yelling about how much lying Dick has done in the game, you believe he is telling the truth right now.

I also find it quite interesting that
those who dislike Dick are not doing a happy dance. Dick or Daniele are likely going to be evicted on Thursday.

By the way, there really is no need to yell.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
psssstttt.... Dick was cheating... psssstt...

Dbald
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08-04-2007

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 1:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dbald a private message Print Post    
thank u costa