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Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 7:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
Loppes and What - those were very powerful posts - and they echo every feeling I have about this season.

AG should be ashamed. Endemol should be horrified. CBS should be embarrassed.

Redpen
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07-24-2003

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Redpen a private message Print Post    
Reading your posts has made me feel better because I see I'm not alone in my feelings. This season really hit a new low in TV programming. What's post summed it all up perfectly.

I will watch the rest of the season but I've quit watching the feeds. I hope there's a BB9 and I will watch it if they have it, because I have been a fan since BB1. But this show may have jumped the shark this season. If it has, it's the fault of AG and her staff.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
What, Loppes,,

I'm just speechless. I couldn't have said it any better.

What I would like to understand is why so many do enjoy watching Dick. All I read on this board is "I love Dick" "I find Dick sexy" "I want Dick to win", but why can't I read anywhere a more in-depth profile of this wonderful Dick so many enjoy watching? All I see of Dick is the exact person Loppes, What and so many others have described. Can someone please explain to me what is so wonderful about Dick that so many enjoy watching, that he cusses and rants and farts and spits and smoke and bullies, etc. etc., is that what is so enjoyable to you? Until someone can describe to me in a more in-dept fascination with this person (not just "I love Dick", I will never be able to understand his popularity.

I said somewhere else that maybe Alison is just as astonished as we are, never expecting this "naughty boy" to turn out to be this nasty and could have offered an apology to the offended viewers with the promise to try to admonish Dick in improving his behaviour in the house. But disregarding the concerns of the viewers and feeling satisfied with the ratings is a slap in our faces. All they really care are the ratings.
The ratings were higher this time because of the expectation of seeing a reconciliation of father and daughter which soon turned out to be a nightmare for many and entertainment for others. I find this incredible.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
I didn't watch tonight and I haven't watched the last few episodes.

Most of all, I'm wondering, "What was I thinking?" I should have stopped watching after ED's vile rants and threats of rape.

It is totally disgusting that AG didn't haul him up short and stop his abuse. Most of all, I'm disappointed that I kept watching when I didn't even find this year at all entertaining.

I kept watching in hopes that ED would get his due, but I should have protested by not watching and not going near the CBS site, since they are so proud of all the hits they got.

Shame on CBS and shame on me.

Ginger
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08-13-2007

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginger a private message Print Post    
Dick is <el> and Danielle has so much growing up to do, it hurts to watch. I think it's horrible that the producers have allowed Dick to abuse his fellow housemates as he has and also horrible that they edit the show to make Dick look half decent. As for Danielle, she has repeatedly said she doesn't like the way her father talks to the rest of them, and yet all she does is laugh and smile big when he brags to her about how hard he ripped on whoever his latest victim was. She loves it. If she didn't she could have spoken up; she's the only HG who really could have convinced him to tone it down. She didn't want him to, plain and simple.

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
Last night, as I have through most of this season, I was doing the Live Feeds, and I"m sure many here know it was so tense in another folder, that both sides were "snapping" I include myself in that. I forced myself to step away..later in the evening I returned, and figured its "safer" for me to just go report Live Feeds, because doing them you are in your "own world". The last Feed I posted, I just sat there and re-read what I had been posting.....and it truly sickened my stomach. I'm not a prude or a think of myself as a holy angel, I use the "F" word quite easily if I feel the need. I'm not immune to people make jokes about having sex with dead corpses.....
I'm fairly aware of the changes in popular language etc. But, what I realized was, that I was mostly posting, for the past 3 days, the same thing over, and over and over and over again. And yes, I was posting Dick, because he and Daniele were predominant on the feeds. When I realized, I had dedicated 3 days (not counting the 2 months up to last night) of reporting ugly, disgusting statements that 2 people were making about other individuals (HGs, etc). It sickened me to realize that somewhere out "there" in the world, someone else who thought the Donatos are incredible, was possibly taking sadistic pleasure in reading what they were saying. (Believe me, I got emails to that effect also)

I can't do that anymore, I cannot morally contribute to exploiting that behavior, especially at a website, which rightfully takes pride in keep things clean. I began to feel almost dirty and cheap, and like I was reporting on a vulgar porn voyeurism.

So to borrow from Zach having an epiphany about his faith in God - I had a epiphany last night after midnight about how wrong it was for me morally to continue to record their non-stop verbal vulgarity. I honestly felt, I was condoning the horrific things they have been saying, and that was against my moral compass and
my self respect.

So, if I do go to post LF, it will only be about positive things in that house. (thank god there is only a little over a week left to this game lol)

Thanks for the posts who agree with mine earlier, and to What555's.

This season has totally exhausted and worn me out, and it seems, it has to most of the posters in this folder.

Onlymytulips
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07-17-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlymytulips a private message Print Post    
It's actually disgraceful that I'm watching this show.

Glitterae
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08-02-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glitterae a private message Print Post    
Cheers to you Loppes!!!!

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 9:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
Spunky- if you read my earlier post I tried to explain why I think Dick is so popular with the boards and the polls.

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
Also, it's too bad Zack didn't have his epiphany when Jen was getting abused, just saying.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Ambi,

I can't find a description of Dick's outstanding qualities to become so popular among the audience. You're saying you can explain his popularity because of some people needing to vent their anger and seeing Dick's anger makes them feel better. So, it's not because he has wonderful qualities... I kept looking and looking to see what could be so enjoyable but couldn't find it.
It's hard to believe that through Dick's anger one can get satisfaction for their own pent up anger. But I guess that could be an explanation.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I too feel that Zach could have tried to defend Jen, as he obviously saw the abuse, as did Eric, as did Dustin, as did Nick, as did all the other men in the house. But the women in the house should have been the ones to come up in defense of Jen first.

Onlymytulips
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07-17-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlymytulips a private message Print Post    
Spunky,

I have come to the conclusion that:

It is his TATTOOS! hehehehehe

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
Spunky, When in 8 seasons or at least the last 7 has winning this game been about outstanding qualities? The fact is Dick has been the most popular on the CBS BB polls for almost the whole game. Why do you think that is? I think most people cannot tell their boss, teacher, neighbor ect to shove it like they want to and Dick fills that void. kind of like watching Easy Rider and imagining you're Dennise Hopper. I'm just trying to answer you as best as I can, to figure the whole thing out.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
I've watched a grand total of 2 episodes and 20 minutes tonight and that's been it. I'm a former BB addict so I consider that pretty good. After the 20 minutes I saw tonight, I'll skip the finale. Why bother watching something the producers have already made clear they want? But I do love these boards! I've always said they're so much better then the actual show!

Loppes ~ great post!

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Well, I guess I see a person angered for the right reasons and wanting to stand up for their own rights. That's good.
What I see Dick doing is venting his anger at other players not to defend his own rights but to bullying, demeaning, insulting, and on and on... I don't get a kick out of this demonstration of anger but many do I guess.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Loppes, difficult decision for you, I think.

Are your live feeds supporting this summer's show? Or are they a service to those of us on TVCH? I have no doubts this debate was in your mind as well.

Good for you for standing up for what you believe!

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
I didn't say I get a kick out of it either but it appears America does, according to the polls.

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
Spunky, Zach was fighting his own battle, and not just with one other man, but the whole household, in which Dick had already planted the 'molester" seed in. I really truly understand why the HGs, never stood for for Jen, I am hopeful, now they are out of the house their view of her will change....but that is the thing about Dick that disturbed me the most, and I know its possible because I've seen it in people before. Dick has that much control in repeating something so often, that the other HGs actually begin to believe it, Because they become in absolute and total fear of him, they mimick his words, and actions, because they all full well know, that if they defended Jen, Dick would come after them next, faster and harder. Dick actually lucked out in that house of contestants - there was not one houseguest, besides Jen, who had the ability to stand up to him. And that, is why her name is still prevalent, in every other word he says. He knows it, but he would never ever admit it, and disguises it, but trashing her. The ONLY reason I believe Zach had the strength to put D/D on the block this last time, was the the field was balanced, 2 vs 2 people. But if Zach had done what he did now, last week, you can bet that Dick would have turned all the HGs against Zach.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
What I see Dick doing is venting his anger at other players not to defend his own rights but to bullying, demeaning, insulting, and on and on... I don't get a kick out of this demonstration of anger but many do I guess.



Spunky, I don't see Dick's rants as anger. I see it as a strategy...different, but a strategy.

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
Whats555 lol ...I have had feeds for BB since Day 1 of the first season. I will hold on to them until the finale this year too. I am listening to them now, because there are still 2 people in that house who I have a respect for Jameka and Zach. I'm not going to let Dick take that control away from me, because I have a mute button, everytime he goes into a rant.

Scarebaby
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07-31-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scarebaby a private message Print Post    
I'll watch the final episodes, but as nearly every season at this time, I wonder at what could have been. I didn't hate Dick this season (although I think he should have been thrown off the show after dumping juice on Jen's head), but imagine how it could be...remember the retired FBI agent from a few years ago? An older fellow. Imagine if he had been in the house this year. Having just one person over the age of 40 is actually a big advantage for that one person, especially if he's a loudmouth abuser type like Dick.

I love the concept of BB, always will. But until they stop with the LA bartender/Miami waitress casting, my interest wanes more each season.

Askme_who_ur
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08-19-2006

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Askme_who_ur a private message Print Post    
I applaud those who post what I am feeling about the end of the season of BB8. I apparently don't express myself as eloquently as most here. I will tell What, Loppes and others that I thank you for expressing the hurt I feel in watching this season.

Scarebaby
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07-31-2005

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scarebaby a private message Print Post    
Just to add.. what I mean is if you had a few other older folks (and by older I mean over 40) to offset Evel Dick this year...I'm not being clear! LOL it's late..

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 10:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
But this is just crazy to me. I'm only a 5'4 woman and I know I'd have said something. He couldn't hit me, he'd do jail time. Maybe I would have even tried to make him attack me just to get him out. Then I'd have sure confronted the others. Just seeing him on TV as opposed to actually being there makes no differance. I've confronted more than one man in my life for abuse of a woman (my neighbor) and more than one large woman in a store trying to beat a kid. It doesn't phase me. Cowards, all of them including the very honorable Zack.