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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:44 pm
Shop... What you say is true....and I do not dispute that Dick received the letter too late for the "code" to help him.....Even though Dick said something like "some of it will come into play later on"...I don't see how the letter could help him at this point either...You are totally right, that the endgame comes down to the POV.... My thing about the penalty is.....they penalized Jen for breaking a rule....and just as I said before about a murderer....If someone came up to a cop and said..."you know that girl that was murdered and thrown in a ditch last year where the perpetrator was never caught? Well..that was me! I killed her! She deserved to die!" Well....the cop would have to arrest the guy....even if the girl survived and wasn't murdered....because the intent was there.... Dick's INTENT to cheat was there and if he wouldn't have proudly opened his big mouth on the live feeds...no one would have ever known about the stupid "code"....But how can BB just ignore something so blatant when it is bragged about in front of America? It makes BB a laughing stock in my opinion..... And I do NOT hate Dick...I feel like he is his own worse enemy sometimes, and I actually feel a little sorry for him.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:47 pm
I have totally enjoyed this season. I don't care that many don't like my faves, I'm just glad they are still there. I don't believe anyone is being given inside info (except AP, and that was just who to nominate and who to evict, which came from us). The fact that many of those votes didn't meet with some voters preference doesn't mean it is sketchy. Each person in that house have played their game, their way except for Eric. Conspiracy theories are as much a part of this game on the boards as the game itself. Every year someone accuses BB of giving preference to their least favorite HG. Since the code didn't effect the game it is moot.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:54 pm
There probably won't be any letters next year. They might not get anything, because certain chocolate bars could mean something, or certain cards, or whatever. Either that, or they could just give up and let the HOH get help from outside as an extra privilege. What does BB care? There's no level playing field in BB, not now, not ever.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 6:54 pm
Without Prejudice I know speaking for myself only that I would have...I never liked Jessica much as a player in the game...but more importantly, when I set up this folder part of the title "level playing field", is the intent. Having said that, I don't know who you are quoting, but just to be clear, those aren't my quotes from when I set up this folder earlier. Alsothe "blue ball" issue was not the one about allegations on Dick putting it in Jameka's tube, To be perfectly honest, I didn't buy into the allegations that Dick possibly did that at all. But in terms of the letter and the code information from Dick's son, one can't blame that on the viewers or posters, That admission has come directly and quite succinctly from Dick's own voice and words. Speaking for myself only, I have never had a problem if Dick made it to F2, that doesn't mean that he has to be a favorite HG of mine, or that he shouldn't be held accountable. I respect the right of those who are fans and supporters of Dick to have their own opinion and I try make it a point not to go post against him in those fan folders. However, I equally ask, that his supporters, equally respect the right of those others of us who are not primary supporters of Dick and his game play, (or any other HG for that matter), to voice their thoughts, without us being inferred or attacked as "Dick Bashers". That being said, anyone can set up a folder regarding Jessica, or Jameka, Zach or any other hg if they wish, to ask the same questions I've asked, but this one relates to specific issues about specific persons and their actions. This folder wasn't intended and isn't the Dick Fan Club Thread.
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Ambi
Member
08-11-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 7:14 pm
All of their actions have been horrible. If you were suppossedly one of the "good" people, would that not make you even more responsible to step in when someone is being abused?"
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 7:18 pm
I still think this has been going on since BB1, I have always thought that it was odd they let them have letters because I have always thought they would be coded. One year my boyfriend and I quoted to one another what our letters would be to our very opposite picks on favorite HGS. BB might be annoyed that he blabbed it, but it is not secret to BB that it has been done. Who could possibly go through all these seasons and not think this happened? It doesn't make him more wrong that he said it aloud and because the others kept it a secret they are more right. If this was a huge issue to BB I think the would have cancelled letters a long time ago.
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 7:21 pm
Absolutely Ambi.... That is one reason that I haven't really liked ANY HG this year as much as say, I have liked Janelle, Kaysar, etc...... I couldn't believe how NO ONE jumped in to tell Dick to "cool it"....nothing physical...just voicing their disdain... They didn't have to like the person being harassed, just not tolerate Dick's bad behavior...and none of the "good people" said one word while Jen was being abused...but only after Dick turned on them....It was very telling, and in MY opinion....not attractive.
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Ambi
Member
08-11-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 7:37 pm
Thanks Cay. I know everyone has the right to pick their favorites but to make Dick responsible for all the things in the house? They are all responsible and yet he is still the one blamed for everything when they all stood there. To me it was like watching a rape. They all participated by their silence. If I had been there I'd have stepped in.
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 8:14 pm
"Everyone does it" isn't an excuse for breaking rules. If 10 people shoplifted in Macy's and only one of them was arrogant enough to confess it in front of the security guard, then he deserves what he gets. Doesn't matter that the other nine got away with it. Dick admitted he did it, so he should be punished. I guess I was naive, I thought BB screened the letters or either had them written in advance or something. Makes me wonder why they even bother with trying to keep the public away from them at all IF BB has always allowed "coded" letters.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 8:22 pm
My favorite houseguest this year did break the rules and got a penalty vote out of it. I didn't have a problem with Jen being punished. Rules are rules. When they are broken, the houseguests should be punished. Why some broken rules are ignored and others are not is beyond me! I feel it should be fair across the board and it's not. That's my complaint this season! It has little to do with who I do or do not like. That's my story and I sticking to it .
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Shopgirl00729
Member
08-24-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 8:24 pm
I feel it should be fair across the board and it's not. That's my complaint this season! It has little to do with who I do or do not like ********************************* Darn straight, klaw!!
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Mandee
Member
07-17-2005
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 8:30 pm
It could be that Dick loses money from his stipend/winnings. We just haven't heard anything about it at this point. It could be that due to the fact that it's Friday, there are no producers around to make a judgement on that until Monday. Just saying, it could happen.
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Streetsmart
Member
08-06-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 8:37 pm
He deserves a penalty but more importantly why would he do such a dumb thing and admit it on TV?
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 8:38 pm
Thanks, Shop .
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Streetsmart
Member
08-06-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 8:49 pm
Lets put it this way... Troy Glaus was just busted purchasing STEROIDS! He didnt use it but there is proof he bought it. He is going to be suspended for ATTEMPTING to cheat eventhough he didnt actually use it. Its exactly the same thing. Its not that it helped or not its that he willingly and knowingly TRIED to cheat. I also find it IMPOSSIBLE to believe that Dicks son and Dani's brother didnt tell either one that the other was entering the BB house. They both knew dont kid yourself
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 8:55 pm
Street: Dick and Dani admitted to knowing that they were both going to be there earlier in the season.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 8:57 pm
Street, even Dick's fans have complained this season that he can't keep a secret and just has to blab, especially if he thinks he has done something clever. He probably felt like some of his fans do that since the letter was too late to have an impact on the game, it was no big deal. He just does not get it that if it had been in time it would have been cheating on a scale that makes Jens trangressions look like small potatoes.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 9:07 pm
It was cowardly of the houseguests not to speak up and say something about Dick's actions. Why they did not is probably different with each one. But I think fear is the main reason. Fear of him turning his venom on them. Actual physical fear of him. He is a scary dude when he gets going. Fear of it affecting their own game. But Dick's actions are his actions, not theirs. He is the one responsible for his actions, not them. Their failure to act does not come close to his actions. One is an act of commission the other an act of ommission. I am sorry, but I still believe the person who acts badly is worse than the one who does not stop him.
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 9:11 pm
Of course it doesn't make it right that "everyone did it" and a coded letter is not breaking a crime as in stealing. But, why is it that only the admitter should get punished? Hey I have always hated the letters and thought them unfair, but they have never stepped in, you can't ignore it for 20 people and then decide to punish for it for one. Using your example alone of the shoplifting, so because those smart enough not to admit it we should pat on the back and not punish? So no one admitted it prior to Dick, I still believe that they have known for ever that was a possibility at the very least but I really think they were aware all along and looked the other way.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 9:16 pm
How can they punish people if they can't prove that they did it? They know Dick did it because he told everyone.
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Bb8fan2000
Member
08-26-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 9:24 pm
You know Dick has reminded of a situation I was in once. I worked in at TGI Friday's as a hostess and the bartender there was a really mean guy just like Dick. He would pick on a person relentlessly. He would take any insecurity a person had and turn into his favorite target. I had this happen when I first started working there because I made a joke to break the ice and he took it the wrong way and would not stop. It was horrible I dreaded going to work everyday because of it. It really made me nervous to go in and I just would stress about it all the time. It is very difficult to deal with a situation like that. It breaks you down and makes you scared to even go by the person. And nobody wants to stand up to that person because they don't want to be the next target. I actually had guys coming up to me after work telling me that they were sorry they didn't do anything about it but they didn't want to deal with him.
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Bb8fan2000
Member
08-26-2007
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 9:30 pm
I absolutely agree with you. I just hate that it seems like that is what BB wants. I know all about ratings and that is what they are concerned with but at this price I don't think they are making the best decisions.
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Tobor7
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, September 07, 2007 - 9:31 pm
<el> He is confrontational. He is emotional. He may lack social skills. <el>
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