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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 9: Fair to let Janie talk to HG's?: Archive through September 03, 2007 users admin

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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 8:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
We did not see the competition on the live feeds. Period. All we saw were the HGs responses and their own interpretations to what they saw and heard.

Janelle has been there done that. She's been thru BB twice. She's not stupid. She's gonna follow the rules laid out by the producers.

If the HGs are so paranoid that they'll re-interpret every single remark into one way or another, then that's their problem.

Until we actually SEE what was said, what's the big deal? Every season, an outsider is allowed in. Remember the season Sheryl Crow gave them a personal concert? Didn't she tell one of the guys she really liked him? Of course, he was a popular guy that season, so no one complained here.

Sassynegal
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01-21-2005

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sassynegal a private message Print Post    
Nicely put Costa I agree 100%. Why is there always a conspiracy theory?

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 10:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
It is a good point. They are STARVING for external feedback and stimuli. Look how much they over-analyzed the little person and the stilt pirate and the rest.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
That's my point Marks that I said earlier... ANYTHING ANYONE says to them will be amplified a billionth percent because of the isolation. As for Janie "leading Dani to evict Eric" frankly I think that is hogwash. Dani has not trusted Eric for WEEKS now... ummm... didn't she put him up? Hasn't she been the one waffling on their entire "deal" the whole time? It didn't take Janie to do this.

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
Eric has brought up his Miss Piggy remarks over and over. None of them seems concerned as a reason to evict Eric.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
You know, it could easily be that the HG are telling Eric that Janelle didn't like him strictly based on the fact that he made the comments and that he continually brings up that Janelle hates him.

This goes along with what is clearly his strategy of convincing all of them that he is hated in the jury house and couldn't beat anyone at Final two.

He's made much of his final statement to Jen, but he also says he left a nasty goodbye message. What we saw of that message was very nice.. he WANTS people to think he's hated.

I'm just saying that I didn't hear a single one of them say (and I was on the feeds and posting them from the minute the feeds returned and for several hours) .. not one of them said that Janelle SAID she hated Eric.. they just teased that she hated him and he concurred and kept mentioning his rude comments about her.

Flamingo
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08-19-2003

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 12:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flamingo a private message Print Post    
so even after Eric makes his rude Miss Piggy comment he then makes a crack insinuating that Janelle was seeing Nick? And anyone wonders why the HGs would think Janelle hates him?

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Here are the conversations between Dick and Dani that I believe sparked this controversy.

This one Dani said Janelle hates Eric and told her she loves her many times, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOT4B3zZGFg

This one Dick and Dani talk about how Eric apologized, said it was okay, but then told Dick that it wasn't okay and that Eric is an .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVZtHfg8cl0&mode=related&search=

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
So, it's insulting and horrid for Eric to compare Janelle to Miss Piggy but A-okay for Janelle to call him anything from gross to pondscum. Got it. LOL. So much for objectivity.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 3:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
so all everyone is going on is their interpretation of the houseguests' interpretation

i was trying to do word for word which is what I USUALLY do each and every season.

paraphrasing requires interpretation.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
he then makes a crack insinuating that Janelle was seeing Nick?

and he was bang on too.

Nick has been seeing janelle and had dinner with her and her boyfriend. Why do you think Dani is her favourite?

2+2= 4 although in some people's worlds it could be 3 or maybe 5......and some people like me would see 2+2 =22

but I think outside the box and look at all angles

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
There is a difference between "seeing" someone and having dinner with that person AND her boyfriend. A HUGE difference.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 4:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Well, I think some of that is obsession with weight and like it or not, women get called out about their weight way more than men. It's a sensitive subject, esp. for women. Maybe if Eric called Janelle pond scum, it wouldn't have the same effect???? FWIW

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 4:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
Has anyone seen ANY concern on the feeds that Janie's likes or dislikes have changed the way some players are viewed by each other? NO, they feel the same way about each other as they did before Janie came to the house. Eric has laughed about it, Dani and Dick are happy Janie likes them. Big deal.

That is all that matters. The rest is just another excuse to trash Janie.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
i disagree. Dick and Daniele's confidence level has gone way way up. They felt they were in a good place gamewise but Dick especially was worried how they were being portrayed.

they now are completely relaxed and fine with it all. Tension gone.

In contrast, Eric and Jess have had their confidence ripped from them.

did jess even have a nice comment made by janelle? or was she snubbed?


according to Milosmom post earlier janelle said "She would like to see Jess go this week. "

did Janelle show distain on her face when dealing with D and D? We all know how expressive Janelle's face is...I find it unlikely she could hide her feelings

Zach could doublecross Dick and put him up if Dani uses veto.

No way he'll do that now that Zach knows D and D are 'favourites'. Knowing that Janelle was 'into" them seems to have changed the dynamics of the house.


Yes, this has changed the house.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 5:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Has Jessica done anything to win kudos from anyone? Has she played the game, or has she spent most of the game doing what Eric tells her to do?

Zach will not nominate Dick or Daniele. He's already told them he'll go to F3 with them and then battle it out.

It hasn't changed the house. Jessica's brought on her own demise by her actions since nominations. And Eric is not and has never been the most likeable (and yes, he's been a target from America and the HGs).

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 5:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
I don't think Dick has ever worried about how he has been portrayed. He acted however he wanted, no matter what. But he was flattered Janie liked him, who wouldn't be? Dani has always liked Janie, so she was excited Janie liked her.

Eric called her Miss Piggy, Jess didn't even speak to her. Any feelings of non-confidence was brought on by themselves.

I think Janie liking Zach was the only thing that really surprised them, but I can't see it changing the game.

Zach has a final 3 deal with Dick/Dani.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 5:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Was it fair for Jessica's brother just now (well, just now aired) to tell her that she's "doing really good" on the show?

Kiersten_love
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08-03-2001

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 7:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kiersten_love a private message Print Post    
No not at all Costacat, but its the same like Janie telling Dick he is hot and she likes Dani. Who cares anyway, I know I don't, its so silly to worry about what it all means to us and just speculate. In the house everything is distorted, so things will seem more blown up for them, let them gloat, be happy and whine, its there for them to enjoy.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 8:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Bottom line is that anyone who reads the boards knew Janie loved up the Donatoes and hated Eric. She has conveyed that in spades to the houseguests much as she protests that she "didn't do a damn thing".

Dani's conversation with Dick after Janie's appearance spoke volumes of what was portrayed. We are loved, he is hated... good time to show him the door. Voila. Cause and effect.

Oh, and why is Zach's final 3 deal suddenly trumping JEDD's final four one? As someone else already said, these hamsters make promises and alliances more than most people change their underwear and they renege on them even more. I'm sure Kale regrets believing Dani's guarantee to keep her safe. Why you trust anyone after you watch them deceive is beyond me and I'm talking about all of them. A game of trust it isn't.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 8:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Because D/D trust Z more than they trust E/J. Because D/D have a better chance in F2 with Z (two against one) than against E/J (two against two).

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 9:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
Actually I never knew who Janie liked or didn't like nor did I care. As for D/D's confidence level going up... ummm, they are pretty much in control of who is leaving so why wouldn't it? Dani won pov and there votes plus Eric's are all that counts. Sorry, that argument IS reading something into it. Eric is the one who keeps brining up his comment to Janie.

Dzzyedge
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08-22-2006

Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 10:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dzzyedge a private message Print Post    
Janelle posted on her site about what happened during the POV ceremony.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 12:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I don't think Dick has ever worried about how he has been portrayed.

he has talked about it numerous times on feeds.

even has stated that he is worried that was going to be met by Christian Organizations with signs demonstrating.

There have been quite a few comments. but I realize it is very easy to miss things if a person happens not to have feeds on.

Sometimes I will have a feed on mute and then catch the last part of a convo.

easily missed.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
Just read it Dzzyedge. Seems Dani especially blew what Jani said way out of porportion...lol

Dani told Janelle that janelle was her favorite and Janelle replied "I love you"

Like instead of "thank you for saying that" "I love you for saying that"...hehehe

Dick's flirting was embarrassing to Janelle, so she called him "beefcake" like she use to do Howie.

It was a good article and so like Janelle.