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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 7:11 pm
First of all, no one is bashing Janelle on this site anyway. That would be against the posting rules. People are allowed to express negative opinions about what Janelle has done. ---------------------------------- I do think that some fans are disappointed that Janelle has said how much she likes Dick when Dick has made very disparaging comments about Jen and Kail, especially when at the same time Janelle was unhappy about Eric's comments about her. It seems a bit inconsistent. I don't at all understand why Eric made the comments he did about Janelle. It makes no sense to me from either a personal or a strategic viewpoint.
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 7:18 pm
Well, Jimmer... didn't Howie go off on April? So, maybe that is somehow in her line of thinking.
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Skylar47
Member
08-24-2004
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 7:19 pm
I watched house calls and Janie said she didn't like how Dick talked to Jenn..She also said if she was in that house she wouldn't let him talk to her that way... I do believe the thing that Janie loves about d/d is that they are playing the game..They are not hiding behind people...You have to remember that Janie lost 2 games to floaters...lol But i think that Janie is playful and she of all people knows what it was liked to get bashed..But she was the person that ended up being friends with the people that bashed her the worst...
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Willhokie
Member
09-07-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 7:34 pm
Let's stop and consider for a moment; Eric is crude, whether you like him or not, that much is obvious. I think what gets to people is that he has no "respect" factor in being himself. I think most people can forgive, and in some circumstances, identify with players in this game, regardless of their actions. However, Eric is not coming across as being himself, so therefore whatever he communicates, he fails at. I don't think this has anything to do with AP, I just think he is trying too hard (and in the process failing) at being something he wishes he could be. I think that is his problem. He is not respected by people because of these things. I know for me, I can disagree, or even not like someone, but still respect their game. In Eric's case, I think people have lost respect for him.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 8:12 pm
I don't think Eric knew Janie was there when he made the disparaging comment about Janelle; thus the "uh oh Eric" said by Jameka when Janelle stepped out & revealed her presence. I wonder what he has against Janelle.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 9:16 pm
allow me to demonstrate my point. six people are lined up meeting a celebrity. Not supposed to be indicative of what happened, I'm just showing my thoughts. The celebrity is supposed to not give the six people any kind of hints as to how they are being perceived. As the person goes down the line it is person 1)Hello, 2) hello, nice to meet you 3) hello, glad to actually see you in person 4) hello you are gorgeous, you have a fabulous personality, 5) hello I loooooove you 6) hello. that is a nice shirt! now it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that everyone has been given info as to how person 4 and 5 are being perceived. Personal comments about Looks, personality and Things brought up during the TV show changes the game for those in the house.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 9:17 pm
Have we actually heard Janelle's comments? Have we seen this competition? Or are people reacting to second and third hand reports of what she said based on houseguest speculation? These are live feeds. It is ridiculous to assume every single second of janelle contact is going to be shown on TV so all we have is the FIRST hand accounts of the HGs.
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 9:34 pm
I'm sure tape for the show was rolling when Eric made his Miss Piggy comments. Why would anybody make those comments if he knew they were going to get nationally broadcast as part of the POV comp? I mean get a grip on those barbs, Eric. I'm sure Janelle's interaction with them was fine. Everyone picks favorites, everywhere. Janelle has them too but it sounded like she was trying to be even-handed.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 9:47 pm
yeah, and then she should have made it clear to the others that she was just speaking from her personal view, not indicative of the public at all. But, I am not sure that all the HGs heard all of janelle's comments with D n D. We'll never know. Might as well let er go LOL
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Stopthemadness
Member
07-15-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 10:42 pm
do think that some fans are disappointed that Janelle has said how much she likes Dick when Dick has made very disparaging comments about Jen and Kail, especially when at the same time Janelle was unhappy about Eric's comments about her. It seems a bit inconsistent. Very well said, Thank You.
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 10:44 pm
Agreed.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 11:00 pm
My personal opinion with this controversy is that Janelle is extremely popular, people want to hear what she has to say, and look up to her when it comes to BB. While I agree she is entitled to her opinions, she is not just any poster. With that in mind, I feel Janelle should have been more reserved in her expressing her personal opinions about Eric until he was either evicted or the game is over, especially because viewers have a voice in the outcome of his game. Instead she very publicly and openly expressed how much she despises Eric on her website, on other websites, on Housecalls, and in chats. I believe if Janelle had been more discrete in her "hate" for Eric, people probably wouldn't have been so quick to believe she influenced Dani's decision on whether to use the POV or that she had something to do with the banner. JMO. If Dick and Dani misunderstood, fabricated, or embellished her love for them and hate for Eric during the POV, I feel Janelle should be upset with them, not the viewers who heard it (except the one who called her mom). I am still curious to know whether Eric really did apologize to Janelle for his comment and hope to find out during the POV Tuesday.

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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 11:09 pm
Jimmer if you are so disappointed in Janelle, you must also be pretty disappointed in many other fanst then. Would that include fans of Eric as well? Of the HG who sit and agree, smirk, laugh or make their own comments? Maybe it is a bit like other entetainers where you buy the entertainment but that doesn't mean you endorse every action on thair part..
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 11:19 pm
Bottom line is no one has even seen any of this yet... it's all speculation based on what the HG's have said and what Janie has said. Dani gave her a compliment to which she responded she loved her... that's Janie. I just am not getting how something that was supposed to have been fun has been turned into something so negative. I mean, I get how the HG's can read something into every nuance.. they are completely isolated and have seen no one ... zilch. But for the posters out here in la=la land to speculate on something that they have never seen and go at it to this degree when we really do not have a clue personally what happens is somewhat amazing. I can even understand the scrutinizing on the Jen/Dick fight since we did see it... but, this? Dick and Dani are fans of the show... they complimented her, she did likewise back. Eric insulted her, she still cheered him on. I just think until this is seen by someone if ever then all of it is just speculation. It's still amazing that Janie has the ability to polorize the same as she did in her 2 seasons.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 11:42 pm
Great post, Shops.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 12:42 am
Shop, I don't think any of us will see what happened during those 3 hours in it's entirety. You're right that it's speculation based off of things Dick and Dani said on the feeds. Speaking for me personally, I knew Janelle's opinions about Eric before the POV comp. That's why I was so quick to believe she some how let Dick/Dani know it. Having read her response, it's very possible that Dick and Dani were making more out of it than it really was. For whatever reason, they think Janelle loves them and hates Eric. They happen to be right...LOL. IMO, Dani jumped on it and was ready to use it as an excuse to use the POV and backdoor Eric. Dick and Dani have mentioned comments that Janelle supposedly said about other houseguests too, not just Eric. To be clear, I didn't like that Janelle was so vocal about her opinions re: Eric before the POV b/c of her popularity, but that doesn't mean I hate her. Dick and Dani discussing it on the feeds, just allowed me to express my opinions about it on the boards. Personally, I was more upset with BB for letting her host when there has already been a lot of controversy over Eric. It's really hard to hide when you don't like someone, so I wouldn't be surprised if they picked up on it w/o Janelle saying anything. Either Dick or Dani said Eric apologized to Janelle and she said it's okay, but then told Dick it really wasn't. Eric tried to justify his rude comment as the reason Janelle "hates" him and that it had nothing to do with the game. I am sure he knows better though and that he isn't the most popular. Having Dick rub it in his face probably doesn't help either. JMO. Also, I think it's terrible for anyone to make fun of someone else's weight/appearance. I hated it when the houseguests did it to Janelle in S6 and S7 and I hate it this year too. Sadly, almost all of the houseguests have done it this year, especially with Jen. Neither Jen nor Janelle are fat. In fact, they are both very pretty, IMO. I do feel bad for Janelle that yet another houseguest made fun of her weight gain in her seasons. I am sure her feelings were hurt...at least she knows tons of people disagree. Granted, Eric shouldn't have said it all, but I really don't think he would have had the courage to say something like that if he knew Janelle was there or that he would intentionally hurt her feelings. He really does need to learn self-control and quit blabbing whatever comes to mind - that's his biggest flaw in this game. JMO. The name calling and bashing have been over the top this year by almost all of them. 16 days is not going to come fast enough, IMO...LOL.
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Vee
Member
02-23-2004
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 4:05 am
I do think that some fans are disappointed that Janelle has said how much she likes Dick... Yup, I'm one of those. And, in Eric's defense (never thought I'd see the day when I'd defend that guy), he said nothing worse about Janelle than she said about him on Housecalls calling his romance with Jessica "the grossest showmance I've ever seen." Tit for tat and Eric doesn't even know it yet. I find it all quite amusing.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 4:05 am
Also, I think it's terrible for anyone to make fun of someone else's weight/appearance Eric has done this before. From what I understand, he feels being overweight is a CHOICE.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 4:55 am
One point that is never brought up is this. Janie said she did not avoid Eric HE avoided HER. Honestley Eric is the only houseguest that didn't try to talk to me.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 5:18 am
eric does that weird avoiding thing on Thursday live shows as well. when the people are finally heading out the door you will see eric standing way back usually staring at the ground in a guilty fashion. I've often wondered how no one would notice.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 5:40 am
quote:These are live feeds
I see, so I was right, and no one actually saw the competition first hand on the feeds, so all everyone is going on is their interpretation of the houseguests' interpretation of their recall of events. Got it.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 5:42 am
One more quick point, during Season 6 the others had every indication that Janie was well loved and they weren't. After all, she won every America's choice. But one of the BAD people won the game. So I don't see what all the flap is about. You could say America tried to influence the game but it didn't work. Here is a recap of a chat she did last night. I hesitate to put these up sometimes now, but better to know what she said rather than to speculate. Janelle came into her chatroom around 10 p.m. pacific time. She said she was alone (when someone asked if Kaysar was with her). She didn't go on audio because she was "watching the feeds." She talked a little more about the POV and HG. Eric really offended her with his comments and she called him pond scum. Eric and Jess were the only HG's who didn't talk to her. Janelle was also upset when she told the HG''s she was spending the summer in MN with her BF who is a football player. She said, Eric said something about it being Nick to which she quickly responded no. But she though Eric said that to make Dani feel bad. She would like to see Jess go this week. Dick grabbed her hand and looked at her ring, then asked if she was engaged and when she old him no "he said there is still hope." Janelle made it clear that just because she sad Dick was hot, it doesn't mean she wants to hook up with him - she just likes to flirt. I told her Dick wanted a letter from her if he wins hoH and she wondered if CBS would let let her and wouldn't that be weird. She said she would write "Dear Dick, You are hot." Zsch asked her about music she liked. One of the HG's asked her if CT gave her any money for helping them win. She was asked if she saw Will or Boogie this trip and Janele said no but she texted Boogie and told hm that he was coming to the wrap party with her, Howie, Kaysar, and Beau. (She also did mention Ross wants to go to the wrap party and say to Eric - what is your problem, punk") I mentoned that the HG's were saying that they would like Will to host a comp. Janelle said she felt bad for Will because CBS wants nothing to do with him. Will tries to play if off Janelle left after about 40 mins saying she had to get up at 4:30 a.m. }
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 5:50 am
You have to remember that Janie lost 2 games to floaters...lol How on earth do you figure that?
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 6:25 am
quote:She also did mention Ross wants to go to the wrap party and say to Eric "what is your problem, punk"
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 7:02 am
Fair is the wrong word for this Big Brother season. I have not seen very much fairness when the producers have been involved.
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