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Lucymac
Member
07-06-2005
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 6:05 am
I think it's one thing for Eric, Dick or anyone else trashing other players but it is another thing when someone(in this case Janelle) who is a special guest is treated rudely. That sounds like a double standard to me. And Eric didn't know Janelle was there so at the time she was no special guest. So since Diane wasn't a special guest does that mean it was okay for Janelle to bash her during season 6? Diane was either watching the feeds or had it reported to her. I think what Eric said was wrong as was what Janelle said about Diane. I think what Dick says to people is worse than both of those put together but yet he is praised for it. And what Boogie said about Janelle was far worse last year but yet all is forgiven and he is a friend of hers. I'm a fan of Janelle's from her seasons but that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything she does and in this case I think she has handled this poorly. I don't think she should have had the contact with the HG's but I fault BB on that part and not Janelle. I am disappointed in the way she has handled this after it happened. Sure some of what she said about Eric was said after this happened, but that doesn't excuse it. He was wrong in what he said and she is wrong in what she has said. I guess I remember too well from my childhood that 2 wrongs don't make a right. I also watched Housecalls last week where it was very obvious that Janelle did not like Eric, so I find it disingenuous to pretend it is all because of what he said that she overheard. He offered an apology like she did with Diane and if that was supposed to be good enough for Diane, why isn't it good enough for Janelle? And I don't get the complaint that some of them didn't approach her. Does she really expect everyone to fawn all over her? She is a celebrity now but that doesn't mean everyone has to like her. Again it was okay for her not to like some of them but it seems she expected them all to love her. I can understand why Eric stayed back as I am sure he was embarrassed. And perhaps Jessica stood back because either she didn't feel comfortable approaching Janelle or she just didn't want to. That's okay though because why should she have to? Did Janelle approach her? Even if Jessica is not a fan of Janelle and we don't know that, that alone does not make her a bad person. I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion and unfortunately I think Janelle has helped that along. I still like her but think she could have handled this better.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 6:16 am
Jessica's mom didn't help with her very biased radio interview. It depends on who you believe. Having spent many hours with Janie in her chat, I find her open and honest, and having fun being a fan. I also think she is professional enough to have not caused any trouble on the BB set. What she said over and over and over again before going on the show is she didn't like Eric, which is her business and choice as a fan of BB. She ALSO said and so many don't want to believe her is she planned on treating the hgs all nicely. Which she did, I think when you see the show tonight, you will see her cheering on Eric and Jess very nicely. Even after Eric's Miss Piggy remark, and she never had a problen with Jess. They ignored janie, not the other way around.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 6:18 am
I can understand why Eric stayed back as I am sure he was embarrassed. I don't think he stayed back because he was embarrassed, he has repeatedly stated how he does not like Janelle and would want nothing to do with her. And while I think there is an argument to be made as to how trashing other houseguests is "part of the game" there is absolutely no reason to trash others not part of the game. And yah, Eric did not know Janelle was behind the screen, so he should not have trashed her.
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Lucymac
Member
07-06-2005
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 6:29 am
Well it's all speculation by all of us as to why Eric didn't talk to Janelle. None of us were there and I do think it is possible it was because he was embarrassed. What is so wrong if Eric doesn't want anything to do with Janelle? Where is it written that everyone has to love her? Wouldn't it have been more hypocritical to pretend he loved her to her face? Again Dick gets excused for what he says because he says it to people's faces but Eric was supposed to be fake and pretend he loves her? And no Eric should not have trashed Janelle just as she shouldn't have trashed Diane in her season. I like Janelle but I refuse to put her up on a pedastal and say whatever she does is right.
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 7:39 am
Excellent posts, Lucymac. I agree with you.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 7:51 am
I think the backlash has taken a lot of the fun that Janie enjoyed over doing the POV, and if Eric loses he can just blame it on Janie. Maybe people would prefer that outcome. Personally I will continue to enjoy whatever thoughts Janie might have on the show. She is a unique fan in the fact that she has been there,
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 7:55 am
Lots of good points Lucymac.
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 8:08 am
Sun, the topic is and I was referring to posts I had made about no one having seen the Veto competition... of course we have seen Dick say the things he has about the Christian right hating him etc etc... I have said over and over again in my posts that it is amusing that something we have never seen and have only heard comments from the HG's and Janie on is being debated to this degree. Read all my posts before you just pick one to quote as they were all regarding the same thing.
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Cmist
Member
09-20-2005
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 9:29 am
I fully expect that Eric's treatment of Janelle will have ramifications with the fans. I realize that we have not seen the episode and don't know all but even when we do it will be edited so people will believe pretty much what they already believe. I expect to see Eric voting against Jess on thur.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 9:46 am
Eric's "treatment" of Janelle has made no difference as to the way *I* perceive him. Actually, it just confirms what I already thought of him. And I was already planning on voting for him to evict Jessica, if she was still on the block.
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Cmist
Member
09-20-2005
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:01 am
Costacat... I agree with your thinking, but in my view it was like the "nail in the coffin" for me. I just hope that Eric goes right after Jess. CBS should have found someone more likable if they wanted to "sell" him as America's player.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:59 am
Yup, I agree with the "should've found someone more likable" statement. Fer sure. And "nail in the coffin" or "confirms what I already thought"... same thing, yes? 
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 11:59 am
Regardless of what one thinks of Janelle and Eric, given his vulnerability as AP it was an extremely poor strategic move for Eric to get Janelle's ardent legion of fans upset with him.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 12:48 pm
Janie will have an interview on Entertainment Tonight, before the show.
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 2:50 pm
Well I guess we'll find out tonight what really happened. <putting on riot gear>
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 3:07 pm
LMAO... hand me a vest NY, I need it. I do agree that Janie's fans can be very ummm... polorized in their ferverent defense and love of her. I do think it was a bone headed move of Eric to insult her even if he didn't think she was there, the camera are there. Sometimes he just does not think at all.
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Tvjunkie64
Member
09-04-2007
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 3:14 pm
I appreciate what eric said - I am not a janelle fan - never understood the hype with her <shrug> Her fifteen minutes is over - be gone with her. and Eric, like everyone is entitled to his views. And I do think it is unfair she said ANYTHING to ANYONE outside of what was scripted for her to say.
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 3:33 pm
Cmist said
quote:I think it's one thing for Eric, Dick or anyone else trashing other players but it is another thing when someone(in this case Janelle) who is a special guest is treated rudely.
That's pretty much how I feel about the whole thing. She is not a current HG but a host. Even if they were only showing all of Janie's wins, tape must've been rolling. A modicum of decorum would be nice.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 3:53 pm
Laughing my butt off, Nyheat! "..a modicum of decorum..."!! HAHAHAHA!! Yeah, rigth! Like decorum has been present in the BB house this season. Not! (The HGs manners alone are enough to cause me to turn off the feeds while they are eating!)
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 3:56 pm
I'm not sure what exactly Eric said but if it was that she was fat or something like that, well then, that is just immature on Eric's side as Janelle is not fat at all.
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 4:32 pm
I know Costa--I'm a big stuffed shirt! I am watching ET and looking for the Janelle interview.
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 4:45 pm
That was a blink and you'll miss it moment. 
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Stopthemadness
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 7:00 pm
How do you feel after watching the show?
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Yleicht
Member
07-07-2007
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 7:02 pm
Funny how Danielle laughed like a hyena when Eric cracked his Miss Piggy line about Janelle BUT - hey that was OK. She didn't take any heat at all for that.............
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Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 7:02 pm
he apologized to her.. at least he had the decency to do that much.. and i believe they selectively edited it to make it look 'fair' and playing up the whole janie dick slo mo thing made me nauseous..
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