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Messalina
Member
06-19-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 12:01 pm
Earlier in this thread I said I didn't think the HGs should get to talk to any outsider. I'd like to expand and clarify my statement just a bit. First of all, I have no problem whatsoever with bringing previous HGs back to host competitions. I was a big fan of Janie's during her season(s) and it's always a pleasure seeing her or other previous HGs hosting competition and/or watching them on House Calls or other venues. It's just my personal opinion that Big Brother would work better if HGs literally had no communication with outsiders of any ilk whether it be former HGs or family members or production staff. Didn't Marcellus host a POV (something about gnomes) in which he spoke not a word to the HGs nor they to him? I may be mistaken, please correct me if I am. Did Amber get to speak with her cousin outside the parameters of the POT game? I was under the impression she didn't have personal contact with her but I could be wrong on this as well. Did Dani get to speak with Nick? If Amber talked with her cousin, then why not let Dani speak with Nick? If HGs can talk with Janelle, then why not let Dani talk with Nick at POT and Amber talk with her cousin at that same time? I'll answer my own questions. In my opinion they shouldn't! I don't think they should be allowed to speak to ANYONE other than each other and whoever they talk with in the DR. Janie can come back to BB every season for the next 20 years for all I care. Just don't let her or anyone else speak with the HGs! I don't mind a "Hello" and a "Goodbye" but anything other than that should be forbidden. JMHO. TYVM.
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 12:01 pm
<93> I am not glad Jen ate i think she disrespected every past HG who took the game seriously (same reason i never liked Will or Boogie but even they never crossed that line) As for the "negative people" if anyone believes Jen is a positive person you need to re-evaluate. Just because she wears a smile doesn't mean she didn't say hateful things, or that her views against smokers are positive. I coach little league and trust me we have had issues with horrible coaches and officials but we teach the kids the rules are the rules and you have to play by them.
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Moderator
Moderator
06-30-2002
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 12:11 pm
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Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 12:11 pm
Well I hate cigarette smoke too and it makes me really sick to be around it so I understand Jen completely there. Just about everyone says mean things sometimes. That doesn't mean you don't have a positive outlook on life. Did you see Jen on Housecalls? I loved her answers on that and I think it explained a lot about where Jen was coming from. Lots of houseguests have broken rules. Besides, it's hard to follow rules that are made up as the game goes along. Sometimes in life rules and laws need to br broken to make a stand in what you believe. Just be prepared for the consequences of breaking those rules. Jen had no problem with the consequences of her actions. I didn't hear her complain once about the penalty vote against her.
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Wavewatcher
Member
09-09-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 12:39 pm
Just had to shake my head at Eric's behaviour prior to the POV. Same as when I had to shake my head at his comments when Jen left. Sorry Eric...no class. Not necessary. I am seeing an impulsive mean side to Eric. I was a fan up until recently. Thank you for posting Janelle's site so we could read her take on this event.
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Stopthemadness
Member
07-15-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 12:42 pm
I don't think Janelle should have been able to talk to anyone outside of the actual comp. As for being mad that Eric called her Miss Piggy, I can understand how that would piss you off right there at that moment (and maybe longer), but seriously would she have been okay with it if he had called her a <93> or a <93> or something like that. Dick calls women that and she loves him. Lesson learned; call someone really viles names to their faces but don't say they are fat. Okay got it.
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 12:49 pm
Well I am allergic to perfume and peanuts/peanut butter but i wouldn't think it was ok to pour someones perfume out or throw away the peanut butter (which can kill me much faster than cigarette smoke) So I find those attitudes negative.. just because you don't like or approve of something. Not sure what rules you feel were made up along the way but destroying property has always been off limits no matter what Jen thinks she was told. And the tea was not an attack since he didn't throw the glass at her. (we just had three teens arrested for assault with milkshakes, but they threw them at people from a moving car and hit them with the cups not just the liquid.)
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Stopthemadness
Member
07-15-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 12:53 pm
Wow just went to the janelle fan site forum, kind of scary over there. People defending her like they were personal friends or family. It's a game and these are contestants. <100>
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 12:54 pm
Until smoking is made illegal I don't really know how anyone has a right to destroy someone else's cigarettes/property. I'm sure Jen went in the house fully KNOWING that there might be a smoker in and amongst all the HGs. My guess is they would have waived that right or not been let inside the house.
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 12:56 pm
Oh, I don't know, the real <100> ones, IMO, are the Eric fans who have been phoning her mother's BUSINESS to complain about Janie being the POV host. Now that is weird and taking things way too far.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 12:59 pm
Thanks for starting this thread, Tanith. I've been trying to make sense of everything that happened last night. I did read @ Janelle's site what she had to say and I've been reading @ Sucks, where I found this very interesting post: Well Dani said specifically that Janelle hates Eric and likes her and now she's asking herself why that would be (in other words Janelle made Dani doubt Eric's loyalty to D/D even more) so Janelle DID have some kind of influence. It takes very little to influence highly paranoid people who have been locked up in a house for months, knowing people are out to get them. They over analyze everything. I blame BB more than Janelle. She already said she'd be mean to him, they should have made her not say anything that wasn't PoV-host related and they should have pulled her as soon as she did. It's not really her fault. If I went in to host a PoV, I would have a hard time being nice to the people I dislike (Dick, Dani, Zach) and they've never talked shit about me personally like Eric has about Janelle. I don't like that she did it, but if she had done it to Dick I'd be loving it. Dani's take on the situation was what upset me in the first place. Now she and Dick might think Eric will betray them because Janelle doesn't like him. Could it be because she distrusts him (in Dani's mind.) I've read several posts that said Janelle posted somewhere she was going to be mean to Eric..or..she didn't like Eric. Eric helped her out by saying what he did with his rudeness, but should BB have pulled Janelle if she got too comfortable with the HG's, as it can change the game based on how the HG's interpreted what Janelle said or did. What does everyone think? ETA: I like Janelle very much, but the fact that she had Dani's BB boyfriend, Nick, to dinner, said to me she might not be an impartial host and it wouldn't be the best choice for the good of all the houseguests.
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Lucas
Member
07-01-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 1:00 pm
Janelle sounds like she did JUST fine! GO JANELLE!!!
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 1:00 pm
simply another Reality star looking for another 15 minutes. That's all it is. nothing fair or unfair about it. next she'll be riding bulls or some such nonsense. Are you serious??? As if she asked them to bring her back. Janelle could care less about being famous. If she had those aspirations she would be living in LA or NY trying to be a model/actress, but she is not. She was brought back because she is a fan of the show and a fan favorite. A campaign was started by a fan and over $1,000.00 worth of pink M & M's and pink carnations were sent to the producers begging them to bring her back to host something. I am a fan of Eric's but his comments can be over the top (ie. the incest comments about Dick and Danielle for example). He should think twice about bad mouthing past house guests who he may meet one day. It caused a problem in Allstars with Diane and Janie, he should have learned from her example. I have no reason not to believe the events transpired exactly how Jannelle said they did and I have personally her him talk about her early in the season. Messalina, when Holly guest hosted during BB6 she made her love of Janie very evident. I don't remember the house guests actually seeing Marcellas, wasn't he over the speaker in the back yard, not in person?
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 1:01 pm
Jeanne, I'm not so sure they were Eric fans, but maybe non-D/D fans, but I do agree...way too far.
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Stopthemadness
Member
07-15-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 1:02 pm
Jeanne I got your back on that one. <100> I really like Janelle, and I loved her in both of her seasons. I was excited to see her in the Dodge commercial and am looking forward to seeing her in Tuesdays show (although not as excited as my husband!), but I don't get involved in their personal lives and would not even assume to know what they are thinking.
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Stopthemadness
Member
07-15-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 1:06 pm
I like Janelle very much, but the fact that she had Dani's BB boyfriend, Nick, to dinner, Oh when Dani finds that out I don't think she will be a Janelle fan. I mean really how could he go back to Danie after meeting Janie???????
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 1:08 pm
Wow just went to the janelle fan site forum, kind of scary over there. People defending her like they were personal friends or family. It's a game and these are contestants. What scares me more are the ones that hate her so much they would call her mother's business to say she ruined the game. <100> I actually like this season and Dick too, but if it wasn't for the AP twist he would be long gone and Dani most likely too. Whoever wins it won't be a true win because the events have been so manipulated. Mind you as a viewer and a fan I love having input, but for the actual contestants it is not fair. Oh well it is what it is, but here we are still watching and still talking about it.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 1:08 pm
Stop...Janie has a boyfriend, I think Dani will be so happy that Nick is friends with Janie and Ross. Dani would love to hang out with then as well
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Amykat
Member
07-24-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 1:09 pm
Milosmom, where did you find the recap? Thanks!
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 1:10 pm
Janie has a boyfriend already, I don't see why Dani would be upset.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 1:11 pm
LOL, I was thinking the same thing, Stop. In the house, he went on and on how Dani was so beautiful and I would think, "Geez..how would this guy act if he ever met Janelle." Her boyfriend was @ the dinner as well, but I would love for Janie to hang out with Daniele for awhile and see the real Daniele. See how long she likes her then. Their personalities are not the same at all. Gamewise, they both won Vetoes, but Dani isn't Janelle.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 1:11 pm
at Janies site amykat. www.janellefansite.com under news and discussion
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 1:12 pm
Oh when Dani finds that out I don't think she will be a Janelle fan. I mean really how could he go back to Danie after meeting Janie??????? I so could see Nick and Janelle together, but too bad Nick had dinner with Janelle AND her boyfriend, at her boyfriend's house no less, lol.
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 1:14 pm
I read "Janie's version" of her "talking" to the HGs...and I TOTALLY believe her..... Janelle was ALWAYS honest....why would she change now....She knows the rules...and she would NEVER try to influence the game.... Eric <100> was EMBARASSED, and he knew Janelle heard him "trashing" her, and so he couldn't look her in the face..... It seems like to me, that Eric/Jessica fans are looking to blame someone for the fact that they are going to lose this game....but the reason is their own fault.... Last week, when they had the GOLDEN OPPPORTUNITY to backdoor Danielle...they didn't....Eric, because he thought he was making "friends" with AMERICA, and Jessica, because she was desperate for Eric as a boyfriend...IMHO....They have only themselves to blame when they lose to Dick/Danielle.
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 1:14 pm
The dinner was at Janelles house. Nick stayed at her boyfriends house.
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