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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 2:39 pm
jokers moderates. they just have a different threshold.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 2:45 pm
While I don't disagree with a lot of the above, I think there is another issue. I will just state the facts and how I think they are affecting the board, but not comment on them since that is likely to break a rule lol. In years past when there was more interpersonal chit chat in the BB area, I think folks got to know each other a little better. So rather than PosterX just being someone who is always saying something negative about a HG I like, I knew more about them, and they seemed more human to me, and vice versa. And this is where I think it gets important. So when that person kept posting something totally different from how I view BB or a HG, I wasn't as quick to feel it was personal. It was easier to see that they just hate someone I like and so the world goes around. But without that personal connection, I think often now when folks speak negatively about a HG other posters take it more personally cause we haven't made that connection. And even though logically I know most aren't personal at all, when I post something positive about a HG and others immediately reply with a negative, it often can feel personal. Hope that makes sense cause I really think it's playing a big role. I might be wrong, but that's how it feels to me!
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Suzsmarmie
Member
07-26-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 2:48 pm
I think I understand what you're not saying, Lurk. If I'm right, I miss it too..lol. And, you could be right.
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Citadelle
Member
07-06-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 2:48 pm
We all have an obligation to try not to take it personally, I think. That is the only way it can work. This is not directed toward anyone personally! LOL
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Dbald
Member
08-04-2007
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 2:48 pm
to be honest....this is my first year here and in my first couple of visits it was great, but sometimes i found the posters being for lack of a better word judgmental and i check in & post less and less.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 2:49 pm
I have felt more "attacked" this year than any other year...not personally attacked but in such a way that I have to really bite my tongue not to answer back... Statements like: Anybody who likes Houseguest A must be stupid, crazy, messed up, hypocritical or other such fun names. I try very hard not to take it personally, but it can be hard. I can see why people argue back, and off on another tangent we go....
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 2:51 pm
Keldogg...I know the feeling very well! I never saw the things said like you have, but sometimes you can be MADE to feel that way...I haven't posted as much this year...probably for the reason Lurk ain't talking about! LOL Dbald...post away...if you have a favorite player, find the fan thread for that person and post away! 
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 2:52 pm
I have turned all my anger for the house guests and even posters torward the people that deserve it. The Big Brother production staff
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Citadelle
Member
07-06-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 2:55 pm
But why does there have to be so much anger toward the HG? That's what I don't get. They all have positive and negative qualities.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:03 pm
Lainee...it's been awhile since I sat seriously laughing out loud at a post, but the 'reason Lurk ain't talking about" did it. Thanks, felt good to be laughing in this area again!!!! Now I'm back to not talking lololol While posting, I will add that I think having a house full of some of the most unlikeable, unpleasant HG in BB history hasn't helped the situation either!
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:06 pm
Lurk...you and I have gotten along for the most part on past BB's (mostly because of what you ain't talking about LOL) but this year we have had to agree to disagree...so much so that I think this is the only time we have responded to each other in a week or more. That's sad!
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Upstate
Member
02-11-2007
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:07 pm
I'll just add a thought here. I wonder since the BB house has had such extreme name calling and threats made to do physical harm. Perhaps this has upped the whole atmosphere on the net too.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:09 pm
I agree that there is some transference of feelings about what happens in the house to this board.... ...biggest thing I've noticed this year is how some fans are attributed the same percieved faults as the offending house guest.... (case in point, being a ED fan, I have been accused of being as screwed up in my thought processes as him) While I may not understand another's view of my least favorite HG "cough" Jen "cough", I certainly wouldn't think others are like her because they are her fans... But yes... the transference of tensions and stress from the house do find their way on to this board from time to time... and I personally do not see that as a bad thing.
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:11 pm
Earthmother...there are several I have just agreed to disagree with and when I get to feeling really uncomfortable I don't post or read that thread. If I simply cannot abide a person's behavior then I just don't go to their fan thread. I haven't even been to Eric's (America's Player) Fan Thread in days...personally, I just don't care anymore. IF he makes it to F2...fine...if he doesn't, that's even better because I get a vote at F2. I was NEVER a fan of Eric's ONLY a fan of America's Player, cause that meant I got to play along to a certain degree! LOL
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:16 pm
Unfortunately some don't let you agree to disagree so I find I am forced away from my addiction, but I survive..lol
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:16 pm
I agree w/ the original OP. I do see that as the HG's dwindle down, the behavior and ferverent "taking up" for HG X goes up. I don't like it at all that just because I enjoy watching on TV Dick and saying I do means that I am some how abdicating abuse of women. In multiple threads I have had several of the same posters imply that. I quit posting for days because of it. I, in no way, think that just because I like someone and post a comment does anyone else have to. However, in certain events that happen, I hope that it can be open to debate about the actions. That is what these boards are supposed to be for... discussion of BB. I get tired of someone typing in caps 1/2 their paragraph, which my typing etiquette means screaming, that because I like player X it means this or that. I do realize that this is the computer and we don't always know someone's tone since it's just a screen. Just like the TV, when I don't like something, I turn it off and walk away. I do think this has been true years past, maybe just not with such "domestic" issues such as abuse, incest, etc. I remember loving James and I was soooo hated, even on this forum for loving him in both past BB seasons. I don't speculate how a HG is on their "real life" other than what they may have put on into the public themselves.... i.e. Jen's modeling photos. How she may be as a person in her real life is another issue. They are put in a situation that has to be almost unbearable. I couldn't live w/o a book or two, computer, tv, some other stimulus.... I mean, this is akin to prison in some ways and we wonder why convicts come out the way they do sometimes.
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:18 pm
Earthmother...that's what I meant when I said I get so uncomfortable that I don't go to those threads. I pick and choose...and if conflict starts I just stay away from that thread also. There are several threads that I haven't been to in days because I feel really uncomfortable just reading. 
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Bombaycat
Member
07-21-2007
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:23 pm
This is a great thread. Thanks Kearie for starting it.
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Northwestblonde
Member
09-01-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:28 pm
Perhaps the board also reflects what seems to be a production tactic of casting individuals to play a role of some kind (whiny, homophobic, rascist, etc.)that will create lots of conflict in the BB House. After Season 1 and its almost koombayah atmosphere where everyone liked each other for the most part, it was considered boring and not a ratings-getter. Conflict on the show...conflict on the board. It also seems to escalate when there is no real standout that the majority of folks would like to rally behind and seem to have to pick the lesser of several evils (no pun intended )
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Oregonguy
Member
02-12-2006
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:33 pm
i first started coming to this board during bb2 but didnt join until months after bb6 because i didnt really want to engage in some of more of the heated deates on the board. it is very hard sometimes to know the true meaning of the message when you cant see the person or hear their voice inflections. now im a quasi poster on here but the one thing i seem to notice most during heated debated is the "rose colored glasses" syndrome. i think if we were more willing to admit that our own favs have faultsinstead of defended them to the death it would make it a little more civil. i have my dislikes and favs this season but i can also name of multiple things that my favs have done that i dont like or did wrong. also the peron you argue with this season may be your friend next season. last year there was a poster who it seemed every post was exactly the opposite of what i thought but this year their posts reflect mine and i get a good chuckle out of that.
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:40 pm
I think the issue has more to do with the need to defend. For example, if people like Dick they probably have stuff about him in reality they don't agree with, but they come to the board, they see that he is disliked and they find themselves defending stuff that normally they would never defend. I personally like him and Dani but I recognize that there is flaws. I think message boards at times create a very "all or nothing mentality". I am not a fan of Jen's but I can admit that she has qualities I do like as much as ED has those I don't care about. This happens every year. Normally I am only a lurker and this is the time that I walk away from the boards most year because of this. Where I am in error is not doing a better job understanding the opposite of that. If I don't care for something or if something makes me want to vent or rant, I generally wash my hands of it. What I need to work on for myself is the "all or nothing mentality" that that is not how everyone chooses to handle it. I allow myself to get frustrated when someone is unhappy about something and doesn't walk away. That isn't my call or my business and I should work on that. Just my 2 cents and more, but I personally think that if we would really stop and take a breath, not necessarily to cool down, but more to ask yourself if you would really defend this in reality. I look at it like this, yes, I am a Dick and Dani fan, but if they do something that I am not thrilled about, YES, I am still allowed to like them and NO, no one is going to hang me for disagreeing with something they did.
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:42 pm
I was posting at the same time as oregonguy, it appears we agree!
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:43 pm
quote:Do we villianize the gamers we don't like? Do we ignore the faults of our favorites? Do we bash other posters because they bash our favorites? Is the dynamics of the BB Board reflective of the dynamics in the house?
Yes. It happens every year. Sometimes I have to stop posting here because of it. I think it's much worse in the TAR threads.
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Calgaryperson
Member
07-08-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:49 pm
Well, I've been an on-and-off member since...well all the way since BB1. However, since about BB4 I think, I've usually been busy working and therefore I haven't been watching BB as heavily as I was for the first 3 seasons (and my inactivity is why I had to re-register a couple years back). Every year people get a little riled up, back during BB3 it was that way and I'm sure that it'll be like that every year that there is a Big Brother going on. I haven't seen any issues on the boards. Of course, with my job taking up all my evenings the boards have been cleaned up. Hence, why I haven't seen any issues. Major kudos to the moderators and administrative staff of the site. Basically, hmm ya know, I don't really know why I posted this... To try and save this post I'll just say this even though I'm sure it's been said a million times already (once in this post), there's always gonna be trouble on the boards. Heck, use some of this energy and save it for something else...like another hobby. Perhaps send some letters to CBS...(or heck, towards Global Television for yanking away the rights to BB from the television station I work at...)
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Joyfuld
Member
08-16-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:50 pm
Are we over analyzing our feelings and opinions? I don't think this year is any more contested than other years. Maybe it is just me. I thought the Season with Janey and Kaysar versus the Maggie group was much more heated when debated.
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