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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 8: Have They Begun To Write The Script For The Final Week: Archive through September 01, 2007 users admin

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What555456
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06-14-2005

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
So, Zach has not gone after Dick or Dani. Allison wins again.

Do you think she has gotten the writiers to start to write the script for Dick and Dani's final week, when everyone else is gone?

I am expecting one day they will be told to fight and they will end up ngry and not talking to each other. The next day they'll make up and it will look like the summer will end nicely. Then another day of fighting, etc.

The day before the final vote, they will have that final talk, when they will each begin to understand the other and all will be forgiven. The final day will be a lot of Dick crying over how happy he is and Dani smiling and happy that she finally has a father.

It will be a beautiful family reconciliation week and all of the viewers will have tears in their eyes when the vote is finally announced and Dani wins -- Dick beeming like the proud father and so happy for her.

And then, two months later, they will be on Dr. Phil, where Dick has said he wants this saga to go next.

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
Pullleeeezzzz

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
No matter how well the finale was written (yes, it was written already) Alison will not get these two to like each other.

The daugthter may be richer by 1/2 million and the father a nice consolation price for his son and the smiles will last until the spotlights are out.

Dick's behaviour will be judged as good strategy, it took him to the end, didn't it??

Well, this may be Alison's script... but it's too rosy, something has to happen to screw up her script... not AP, since she controls the votes, not the audience since they'll always love the winners and the booing is usually quiet and soon forgotten.

What could go wrong with this script???

Geri
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07-08-2003

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Geri a private message Print Post    
I thought AP ended by the 12th so if Eric is still there, he can vote how he wants. Also, if he is gone before then, she can strongly suggest what the others do but she doesn't control it.

Jess may turn out to be tougher than we think and she could end up in fr2.

A girl can dream.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Oh Spunky...

I am not saying Dick and Dani actually do end up has a happy father and daughter, I am just saying the final week and the show will end that way.

Then the next day, they can go back to being dysfunctional again so they can get more gigs.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 9:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I like your tongue in cheek theory What555456

however, I dont think the end will be that cut n dried.

It will be more like another Dad of the Year routine with Dick going on and on at the finale about how he has "always always ALWAYS been there for the kids" and how he hopes being in the hOuse has changed DANI"S ATTITUDE.

Dani will act sweet and cute and do that 'Looking up and to the left eye roll' face and say She has really come to appreciate her dad and found him a loyal partner in the game. As for after the game, she will 'keep in touch' more often.

(((notice mine is more an ending of hope, instead of actual reconcilliation)))

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 9:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
What,

I got your point exactly, this is why I said "the smiles will last until the spotlights are out".

If the money will make them happy for a while good for them but it will take more than money to make the happiness lasts.. that's for sure.

Bicbicz911
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08-20-2005

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 9:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bicbicz911 a private message Print Post    
Same old, same old.

Every year we have rumors start and spread that the outcome of the program is scripted and planned by BB.

If that were true, how do you explain Maggie?

ETA: Not going to blame Allison either. She worked with Arnie for years.

It is not scripted. Just because controversial players manage to make it to the end is not a reason to think that it is. Players making dumb decisions and choosing friendship over game is exactly what enables those who don't give a rip for anyone in there to skate past.

Case in point, Will.

If Dick/Dani/Eric/Jess make it to final 4, they played the game better. They didn't follow a script.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
If that were true, how do you explain Maggie?


eric was supposed to be the fan-favourite Fireman. maggie was his secret partner and a Nurse.

As far as the friendship membership, maggie played one heck of a game keeping them under control.

For that season, many of us felt that the HOH and POV comps were slanted towards one person OR completely random.

and actually, I'm off topic once again

Bicbicz911
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08-20-2005

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 3:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bicbicz911 a private message Print Post    
What I meant by the Maggie remark, Sun, is that Maggie was disliked across the board by most everyone. She and Ivette had really low popularity numbers. I remember folks on this board who couldn't stand her. Their alliance was the worst popularity-wise in the history of the show.

If the producers had been writing a script that season, it would certainly have been to include Janelle in the final 2. Same thing last year. I do not believe the producers wanted a Boogie/Erika final two.

IF there had been a script.

Nobody in production was rootin' for a Maggie win, just saying.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 4:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
couldnt stand her as a person and Thinking that she wasnt playing th game are two different things.

even people who didnt like maggie appreciated the fact that she was the ringleader and had everyone 'under the thumb'.

absolutely Production wanted either the nurse or the Fireman to win.


and as for Allstars, they tried to make it janelle at the end but erika changed it up Knowing that she'd never have a chance against Janelle.

I believe these seasons were partially scripted. NOT fully

that is why I consider this thread jsut a fun discussion thread

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 5:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
Bicbic I have never felt it was scripted till this year.

Allison has a plan this year and the DR and AP are her tools to see that it happens as scripted.

What555 you need to change your name to JADED! So obvious you have really had it with this year, glad you still pop in for a chat occassionally.

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 5:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
I'm not sure about Dick's behavior being judged if it is truly up to the jury. Remember that these people stood by and watched Dick seriously abuse Jen and did nothing. I hope Dani or Zack wins and I'm glad Jessica is pissed off.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 6:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
There is no way anyone can predetermine the outcome. There is no way anyone can predetermine how well a HG will be liked or disliked, how America will vote with the AP twist. Just because you don't like the people whom you think may win doesn't mean there are conspiracies to get those to the end. Jen was a controversial character and she's gone. Nick was a likeable HG and he's gone.

Wendo
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08-07-2000

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 6:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wendo a private message Print Post    
I have to agree with Costacat. While the producers may hope for things to go a certain way etc., there are just too many variables that keep it from being predetermined.

Frankly, I think the likability factor of the final HG's in the house is what's the problem, as Costa notes.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 6:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
Costa, I don't see Jen as controversial unless you are speaking of the constant abuse she took from the other HG.

Nick was boring and did nothing but lay in bed with Dani...him leaving got Dani up and out of bed to some extent and caused more interaction with ED. Which TPTB surely desired.

Tanith
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08-25-2006

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 6:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tanith a private message Print Post    
Well, from what I read on the boards last night, Janie delivered her lines at the Veto cmp. How inappropriate to let her speak with them.

Dick will win this. I don't think anyone on the jury will give it to Dani over him. Not even Jen!

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Although I have no doubt that BB influences the outcome to some degree, I believe it's out of their hands once it gets down to final comps, double evictions, etc., otherwise Janelle or Will would have won last year. JMO.

ETA: If Eric, Jess, or both are left in the game, I could see one them winning an HOH. I still have hope that one of the Donatos will be evicted this week in the double eviction.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
If BB is scripted then they've done a pretty lousy job for the past few seasons!

Boogie and Erica at the end instead of …. well practically anyone else but especially Will and Janelle. Will and Janelle would have been a dream final.

Maggie and Ivette as the final two. Kaysar with people voting like fiends to get him back in and he's kicked out the very same week.

Drew and Cowboy. Drew maybe but Cowboy?

Jun and Alison as final two (what can I say?).

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
If? Lol of course it's scripted.

Redpen
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07-24-2003

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Redpen a private message Print Post    
It is scripted to a great extent. The AP element ensures this. The viewers will vote whichever way Allison & Co. want them to, because the shows are highly edited and most viewer/voters don't watch the feeds or even Showtoo. So the AP actions have been leading to a D/D victory. So, when does BB9 start anyways?

Spelll
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09-16-2005

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 9:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spelll a private message Print Post    
Is there any way to be sure that the AP vote is true? Could BB substitute any outcome they want to?

Messalina
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06-19-2005

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 9:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Messalina a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, your points about past seasons are well taken. Perhaps they weren't as scripted as BB8 and we overlook it because the winners were _____(fill in the blank).

This year? Remembering there is a new executive producer and watching both the TV show and the live feeds (I don't have Showtime) I'm convinced this season is heavily scripted. I'm only hanging around to see how Jen is treated following the finale but I'm rapidly becoming very disinterested in the show. I'm hoping next year will be better but I doubt it. Horrors! It may even be worse as AG takes what appears to be a ratings booster for BB and will continue to cast the most controversial HGs she can find. The show may become Big Brawl instead of Big Brother and could conceivably have to be moved to cable in order to placate the FCC.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I can't think of a single time for AP when we were asked "Who do you want Eric to get nominated" or "Who do you want Eric to get evicted" that it didn't match our own board numbers here when everyone would chime in with how they were voting that night.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Of course it all depends on what we mean by "scripted". Yes BB manipulates the game in an attempt to keep it interesting. However, it is not scripted in that BB either doesn't wish to or can not completely control the outcome (as demonstrated by the examples that I mentioned) as well as numerous other ones over the last few seasons.