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Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
Pretty sure since Daniele is 21 and her father and grandmother no longer claim her on their Income taxes that any financial aide would depend on HER income.

I was not able to pay for my daughter to go to college she got financial aide and her own loans.. now hubby and i do own a car and a couple of computers, internet and cable TV should i be added to the dead beat parents list along with Dick for having a life? (as well as a 2 other daughters one of which is still living at home)

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
GMTA Nyheat lol

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 2:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Unfortunately Kale I know ALL about it! dead beat life long student.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 2:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
In California if a student is under 24 and lives outside the home of the parents they can receive aid. If they are under 24 (even if they are declared independent on tax returns, the parents income is used. I just went through this with my son. Living with us he barely got any help on his own, they went after us for the majority of the student loan.

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
My sister is dealing with it right now but her son is 19 and they were forced to take out two loans for his first two years. Now she is panicked because her and my BIL just split and filed for divorce and she is not sure how the school will deal with that next year.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
In Oregon, if the student is 23 or older, they can get student aid loans or grants. If the student is under 23, they go by the parents income unless the student is married or has kids.

Lyn
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08-07-2002

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 3:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lyn a private message Print Post    
Today son got turned down for a student loan and we have actually been arguing about my wanting to get a second job. The kid works all year but in a lab doing experiments and writing papers based on it. He mainly gets paid when his papers get published. In July he was notified that the one he wrote last year will be published this fall. He'll get paid the bulk of his money then. And he just started one for his new lab that he can't expect to be paid for until next year. He saved every cent he's been paid (so far) for the fall term

He's against me taking on another job...I think he works hard enough going to university full time and working at the lab. I don't mind in the least helping him out because I know how dedicated he is to his schooling. (I wish he'd go out with his friends more, actually). A parent does what they can for their kids but I sure as heck wouldn't be helping out if he was only attending so he could party

I'm going to win this one, damnit!

Earthmother
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Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 3:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
You can't find a college for $8,000 per year..they don't exist. Even an 18 month trade course is $20-30,000. University tuition is $15-25,000 per year.

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 3:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
My parents did not pay a dime of my education. I worked through high school and saved. Then I worked two jobs to support myself through college. Wasn't easy and my grades were not the best but I'm proud I did it myself. I was also a cheerleader and a party girl so I still managed to have a fun time!

It can be done, but its hard. I never once questioned why my parents bought cars instead of socking away money for me. They deserved the things that they themselves worked grueling blue collar jobs to have.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 3:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
You can find them in New York in the SUNY-CUNY system--state tuition was about 3,000/yr. in 2005-2006 but has since increased. Unfortunately the high cost of living in New York City in particular offsets the low tuition at state schools.

If Dani were really, really serious about going to college, she would find a way and go. It would be nice if Dick wanted to help, but she could do it on her own if she really wanted to. I don't get the impression at this stage of the game that she's all that interested in going in the near future.

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 3:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
<100>

My question was actually rhetorical.

I spend $140 a month on internet and cable our only form of entertainment. And we got the original computer and DSL when my husband went back to school because he was studying computer programing
/Technology.

The other computers my husband built.

I do not take trips- unless you call a 3 hour drive to my mothers a vacation.
And we have ONE car.

<100>

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Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 4:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
I've not seen Dick called a deadbeat dad BUT we dont know if he paid a penny.

I have both seen it said directly and implied. BUT we DO know the answer, based on his other child, who clearly stated that he HAS provided for them financially. I feel uncomfortable quoting more both because he didn't like when folks did that, and because I read it a long time ago and don't want to misquote him. But he absolutely confirmed that Dick provided financial support but his Mother did not.

And I believe Dick has one car. Should he walk in CA? And the music industry is not known for paying especially well, unless you are a star then you get absurd amounts. My guess would be he did ok but not great, and now with his connections he may have promoted a couple large events that pay better than he usually made. But since he supported himself since 16 and spoke of multiple jobs, clearly he has a solid work ethic. He didn't say it complaining at all, just that he did what he had to and laughed about how they lived etc. But I still say we have NO clue of the specifics, and I'm not going to condemn anyone for what we are guessing is the situation.

As for anything Dick said to Zach, boys brag about their toys. Girls sometimes do too. Doesn't mean it's as nice/big/luxurious as they say. Same way when Dick is saying he is done w/Dani, why believe that is any more than game strategy?? I sure wouldn't.

What a great point that was about Jeanne made about the scrutiny in the BB house. BOY this thread embodies that!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
As for anything Dick said to Zach, boys brag about their toys

you just put a big smile on my face...when I remembered Scott telling everyone about his Escalade LOL

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 5:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
if dani really wanted to go to college she would save her money and not go traveling for the next month and a half.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 5:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    

quote:

You can't find a college for $8,000 per year..they don't exist




Sure they do. They're called community colleges. For those students pursuing career programs, they are a necessity. For those pursuing a 4-year degree, they can provide the first two years (or the general education requirements) at a fraction of the cost of a 4-year institution, with smaller class size, more personalized student services, and faculty who focus on teaching.

Not only am I a community college faculty member, my nephew is a community college graduate, who is now a dean's list student at a 4-year college, preparing to enter graduate school for a master's degree in biology -- and then his Ph.D.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
she can go to cal state long beach here are the costs.

she could easily do it with scholarships and financial aid. i am sure her mom, dad and grandmother would be willing to help if she was serious.

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 6:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
My BIL said nobody helped with his college so he wouldn't help with his two girl's college. The oldest one joined the National Guard when she was a Jr in HS. She was also valdictorian. She's 19 now and has done bootcamp and AIT, and is a nationally certified EMT. She has also applied for some other financial aid. She plans to move here and go to the state college here next yr...which you can go to for 8 grand a yr BTW.
My point, if you have goals, you can make them happen, it just takes hard work and determination!

OH and I'm a CPA. I made it through college working full time and going yr round in exactly 4 yrs, so yes, you can get a professional degree while going to school and working full time! It's all about how badly you want it!

Mandee
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07-17-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mandee a private message Print Post    
For the 4.24gpa, some schools weigh honors/AP/college prep courses out of a 5.0. So that way, even if they're getting a B in that class, they're receiving a better grade for the simple fact that they're taking harder courses. My high school did not do that, and it was frustrating to see those graduating "with honors," simply because they took fluff classes.

As for Dani and Vincent being dependent or independent, it varies from state to state. I was still considered as a dependent until I was 22 and had completed my BA degree. I was considered dependent as long as I was going to school full time, and this kept me on my dads health insurance plan, and all my financial aid was based on my parents incomes moreso than my own.

Castleexplorer
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08-10-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Castleexplorer a private message Print Post    
Earthmother
You can't find a college for $8,000 per year..they don't exist. Even an 18 month trade course is $20-30,000. University tuition is $15-25,000 per year.


Maybe it's where you live?! I am in the NW and you can definitely find colleges that are cheaper than what you listed. You can go to school and get a bachelor's if not a master's degree for that money. }

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
I am really baffled by this thread... when did it become a parent's obligation to fund a car or college for their child? I mean, yes most parents do try to however, given how she moved out and cut off all communication w/ her parents (both of them according to her) why would they help. I have heard from many sources that the entire fund based from Dani borrowing money and never returning it anyway. I was blessed to have a father who did send me to school, however I had to also have certain requirements on my end. Work, live at home, maintain a certain GPA, pay my own car payment etc. Just because he gave birth to me does not entitle me to his money other than my own needs required to live. According to Dick in one of his discussions with Zach I believe he did say that Dani's mother had bought her the car and after she did, Dani turned her back on her mother and refused to speak to her after she got what she wanted. She seems and acts like a spoiled child. Yes, I have seen where Dick says he has a motorcycle and an older corvette... that does not scream money to me. So, he has a motorcycle and a car, don't most people have some form of transportation?

I mean, do you keep shelling out money for a child who keeps screaming at you how they don't want you to parent them at all? I am sorry, I just think it is some sense of self-entitlement for someone to even think that way.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 8:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Where did Dani ever say she expected money from Dick for college? The only mentions of college I've heard about were.

1. Dani mentioning wanting to go back to school on POT

2. Dick mentioning wanting to win to help send VINCENT to college.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
She didn't. Some people here seem to think that because Dick has a car and a motorcycle, he should pay for her college of choice.

In one of my First Year Experience classes yesterday, while talking about how to handle stress, I asked how many students are paying for college on their own. At least 75% of them raised their hands.

I'm sure many of them have parents who own cars. Maybe even a motorcycle.

Grendelsmom
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07-31-2005

Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grendelsmom a private message Print Post    
FWIW, I teach in the community college system in metro Phoenix, an affliation of ten schools, and our tuition is about $160 a credit hour. And we're on semesters. It's a lot less than $8000 a year.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I guess I'm not "getting" why there is so much posting "as if" Dani had brought this up in regards to Dick and so much negative about her..

If he wants to only pay for one child's education (if he wins) that's up to him.

Yesterday he chimed in when several others said they really need the stipend money, so I'm gathering that he either doesn't have a chunk of money available or he certainly doesn't want people to know about it. (and who would, in this game).

I would venture to say that if he REALLY wants to have a better relationship (and not just be "right" or gain sympathy, like his tears that only turn on in the round bedroom where last night he turned them on and actually looked at two cameras to be sure it could be seen) he wouldn't purposely cause a bigger gap there..

Besides you never know when an educated child might help you out later on, or at least be less likely to need help later on.

I'm not a parent, but I know I'd want to help my kids out. With the children of my best friend I paid for first semester fees (community college) for her son and provided a computer, monitor and printer to her daughter when she went to college. In the first case, he wasn't motivated after about a year but eventually got his act together and is managing a restaurant and last I heard has good intentions of returning to school. He's turned his life around nicely, but I still think that one semester was an investment in letting him know someone believed in him. In the second case, she's doing very well and I've promised to attend her graduation. She's the type who got a job the minute she was old enough, you just knew nothing was going to hold her back. I was happy to write her a recommendation letter and help brainstorm her good points and accomplishments and when her mom isn't available I sometimes get an IM asking if I would mind reading this paper..