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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 8: FCC Allegedly confirms that BB is NOT A GAME SHOW.: Archive through August 29, 2007 users admin

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Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 8:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
Found this posted on another site:

"Subject: FCC response to Big Briother being rigged ... Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:33 am

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damNation2 posted this on the CBS forums:


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The OFFICIAL RESPONSE from the FCC is below. They liken Big Brother to professional wrestling and state that the contest is not real and that the outcome is predetermined. If you don't believe me, file your own concern with the FCC. I'm confident you'll receive an identical message.

The response I received:
Thanks for contacting the FCC via the online inquiry form, with your
inquiry (designated IC Number: 07-x1327xxxx), regarding the 'reality'
show 'Big Brother.' We will close your inquiry IC Number:
07-x1327xxxx with this response:

A "game show" in which selected contestants (vs. members of the
public) participate is governed by Section 509 of Title 47 of the
United States Code (USC), and regulated by the Department of Justice.
However 'Big Brother' does not appear to meet the definition of a
"game show." Rather, it is a 'for entertainment only' program,
somewhat similar to professional wrestling in that it is a
pseudo-contest in which the outcome is fully, or in some measure, predetermined."


Ok, then, I guess Amber was right about the winner being predetermined. She just had the 'decider' wrong! LOL!

Well, this answers a lot of questions for me, and now that I know it's not 'just a game' I'm not sure how I feel about it. At least it stops any speculation about the producers manipulating the results - They definitely are, and I suppose it's ok since this is not officially a 'game show'.

At least Daniele will have money for college now.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
I don't really mind the winner part being predetermined, but what gets to me is the fact that they milk the public for text messaging fees.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
I also find the predetermined winner comment interesting.

No doubt CBS has filed documents with the FCC, upon which the FCC made its ruling.

The FCC would not have made up that the winner is predetermined. That comes from CBS lawyers.

Carmenv
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04-14-2006

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carmenv a private message Print Post    
Do you really think that, if this was true, TPTB at BB would have wanted MAGGIE to win Season 6??? Everyone so loved Janelle...not to mention Kaysar...wouldn't BB rig it so the most popular players would generally win? That doesn't seem to be the case, so although I don't argue that the show is manipulated, I don't agree that the outcome is predetermined.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Why would they not, Carmen? They got the ratings?

One thing CBS knows is that more people will watch hoping that someone they hate will suffer than will watch hoping that good things happen to someone they like.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
the outcome is fully, or in some measure, predetermined."

What555456
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06-14-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Puzzled, does it matter if it is fully or iun some measure?

Either way, BB decides who wins.

Either way, it is rigged.

Carmenv
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04-14-2006

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carmenv a private message Print Post    
I just don't believe it. If they had full control, wouldn't they choose some of the more popular players as the Final Two? I mean, seriously. Alison and Jun? Maggie and Ivette? Who wants to watch THAT? Can you imagine the ratings if it had come down to Dr. Will and Janelle last season, rather than the despicable Boogie and his lap dog Erica?

I just choose not to believe that they can control the outcome entirely. That might be naive of me, but like puzzled said, they state the outcome is fully, OR IN SOME MEASURE, predetermined. So although I believe they attempt to manipulate the outcome, I don't believe it always works out the way they might hope.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
just because someone posted something on another website does not make it official in my way of thinking. why all the X's? if it's legit then let us have the real IC number. it's suspect to me.

now, that's not to say that i don't believe BB is definitely influencing the game because i do. i just don't know if that post if for real.

i could post one here that looks just like that one and change the wording to support whatever position i wanted folks to believe.

Kimsue
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kimsue a private message Print Post    
What.........I agree..........I am saddened and relieved at the same time.......I have been trying to ween myself from the Feeds, BBAD and boards like this because it is taking over my life...........This just makes it easier.

Makays
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07-12-2001

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Makays a private message Print Post    
If this is true then I was correct about the AP a long time ago. It's a farce. It means nothing. BB has evicted who they wanted out every week. It had nothing to do with who america voted for.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
We have changed the thread title.

I'd advise everyone to please try to treat posts like this with healthy scepticism unless there is some sort of demonstrable proof from the source.

Thank you.


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Personally, I don't think that it is a game show. However, that doesn't mean that I think the outcome is predetermined or rigged.

Carmenv
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04-14-2006

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carmenv a private message Print Post    
Well, I enjoy it every summer, so I'm going to keep watching! It is still interesting to me, because I don't know who the winner will be, even if BB does!

But for what it's worth, I still don't believe that they can control the outcome entirely...

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
is there a link somewhere to the FCC and the rules for 'game shows' or 'reality shows'?

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
I think BB tries as hard as they can to get the result that they want. If what they want to happen doesn't, they go to plan B.

Take for instance the Spinning Wheel used once last season to pick for PoV players. They could not control that outcome so they went to the balls in the bag. Hence, no female had to face shaving their head as Kaysar did.

Upstate
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02-11-2007

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Upstate a private message Print Post    
I think bb "guides" the show to their liking. as far as maggie winning and not the fav janelle. well that pretty much set janelle up for all stars to seek some revenge. the whole janelle/dr.will was probably allured to by dr. and dr.will being as smart/cunning as he is went for it.

jen talked this year about bb/dr trying to push for one hg over another. so good bye dustin.

Mack
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07-23-2002

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 10:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mack a private message Print Post    
I can understand why BB would not want to be classified as a "game show". Seems to me that would mean that all HGs (aka players) would have to be guarantee a level playing field or situation. Well, that isn't happening. Never has, never will. I'm not ready to go as far as to say the winner is predetermined but I haven't any problem seeing BB manipulate the house to keep the interest up, something I don't think they'd be able to do on a true game show.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 10:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    

quote:

I'd advise everyone to please try to treat posts like this with healthy scepticism unless there is some sort of demonstrable proof from the source.




Isn't that with every post/topic? :-)

Glitterae
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08-02-2005

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 10:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glitterae a private message Print Post    
Has anyone ever heard of internet "hoaxes" I would bet this is one.there are thousands every day that look official...as "new DMV laws"....and people still keep believing them...

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Section 508 Title 47 deals with radio contests. See US Code Title 47 Sec 509.

Amac
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09-07-2001

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Amac a private message Print Post    
Who the h*** wants to watch Big Brother if the producers have predetermined the winner?

Amac
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09-07-2001

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Amac a private message Print Post    
I'v always presumed that the fundamental rules are the same for every BB houseguest as they are for Survivor castaways: outwit, outplay, outlast. We now know that the show will manipulate the "game" to favor particular houseguests at the expense of other houseguests, based on their perceived ability to draw ratings. That totally s***s, in my opinion. The producers are not only manipulating the "game" by doing that, they are manipulating me as a viewer.......

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
If they predetermine and preselect applicants then why wouldnt they control the winner. This year and in the past Big Brother has recruited contestants. It isnt the same show as what was originally aired.

It never bothered me that BB has "led" certain houseguests to their victory but this year there isnt a single sympathetic houseguest which only goes to show that their casting director needs to be fired this year.

Lindy_b
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08-06-2007

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lindy_b a private message Print Post    
This explain so much the winner is predetermined, You ever notice how a player like Janelle wins and wins, then it comes down to the end she lost twice this happen, not only to Janell but Jason in BB3 and others.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 12:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
That email may not be legit, but that is the exact same thing the FCC has been saying about reality tv for years and the exact same thing I've been posting on this board for years when people start whining about going to the FCC because they think a reality show producer is cheating or whatever.