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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:08 pm
Sea, from what I've read from Dick's son, as well as what Dick himself has said (I'd say fairly credible sources on the topic) it is not accurate to say Dick "handed the son off on the Mother." Dick said his Mother would not help him with the kids as he hoped. Either he had to give them to her or she would not help at all. He raised them by himself for a couple years. Imagine a 21ish year old guy with 2 babies alone, trying to work, trying to care for them and no family support. Sorry but to me that is very different. His son has said how he has ALWAYS tried to be in both their lives, and he has always been there for them, financially and emotionally. And to me one thing that speaks very loudly is the long trail of folks that Dani doesn't speak to. She isn't speaking to Dick, she isn't speaking to Vincent (who seems like a really great guy from all I've read), she isn't speaking to the Grandmother she says is her only family, she wasn't speaking to the Grandfather. I believe there were more. She mostly cuts folks out. I think based on that pattern it says to me a good chunk of this is how she deals with any people who she sees as a problem in her life, not just what folks deserve. Sure Dick can be hard to deal with. I doubt anyone here couldn't tell stories of how hard their parents were in some way or another. But as a few of us have mentioned, the fact Dani has treated him like dirt all summer and he took it ALL never once blowing up on her (just occassionally going and crying and looking like he wanted to die and or shoot himself), says to me he IS really trying. Relationships are work. I think Dani needs to learn this or she will likely never end up in a successful one with a guy. People aren't perfect. You need to work past problems, tolerate shortcomings, and put love above perfection. I haven't seen Dani capapble of forgiving anything ever. I can't fathom any relationship or friendship working without being able to do that.
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Hober
Member
06-27-2004
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:08 pm
there is an ant in the mixing bowl
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Mssas
Member
08-04-2006
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:09 pm
eewww there was a bug in the cookie mix
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:09 pm
No, Seattlemom, I'm not eating it yet. But I will...
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Christiii
Member
07-07-2005
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:10 pm
she isnt speaking to he grandmother either??
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:10 pm
eww...I'm gagging....did she see it??
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Flamingo
Member
08-19-2003
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:11 pm
well that stopped my cookie craving
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:12 pm
ROFL @ Flamingo! no kidding, eh! LOL
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Catwoman
Member
07-17-2005
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:12 pm
Hukd....I believe this is her attempt at Snickerdoodles.
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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:12 pm
Seamonkey I went back and read your other post and this one. You were Spot on. My Husband who came into my sons life when he was 10 is more a father to him than his biological dad was. He will proudly tell any one He loves his Pop.
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-19-2004
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:13 pm
What are snickerdoodles???
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-19-2004
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:13 pm
Whew the Ant is now on the outside of the pot. THANK GOD
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Jgirl0129
Member
08-15-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:13 pm
is she sitting on the counter - I saw Eric sitting on the counter this mornign and it drives me nuts
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Flamingo
Member
08-19-2003
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:13 pm
sitting on the counter mixing her cookie dough... 
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:14 pm
dani & zach whispering
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:15 pm
dani saying jameka was throwing shoes in her suitcase after dick told her she was going home
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:16 pm
I would put my daughter on the counter when she was little to mix stuff, but not at 21. lol
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Catwoman
Member
07-17-2005
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:16 pm
Snickerdoodles are a sugar cookes..rolled into a ball and then rolled in cinnamon sugar. If you have a Betty Crocker Cookbook, you'll probably find the recipe.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:16 pm
I went to a very expensive college after getting my Associate's degree at a community college. My sister said that it was costing her and my brother-in-law waaaaay more to send their daughter to her school. We didn't speak for nearly 3 years, and I never figured out why that mattered to her. My sister was brilliant (graduated 4th in a class of nearly 300), but she never went to college, choosing to have children and be a stay at home Mom. I think that it was never about the $$ it was costing her, rather it was jealousy of my education and success that she couldn't express. People have all kinds of reasons for not talking to one another. Sometimes we don't ever get to find out what the real reason is.
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:17 pm
If I ever got in that sitting position that dani is in, I'd never get out of it without help! LOL
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:17 pm
Thanks for answering, Catwoman! I may still have some ice cream, but now it will just be for fun, not for punishing myself!! Wheeee!
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Scribe
Member
08-16-2000
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:17 pm
oh well the bug will cook with the mix and add some Protein in lieu of the Protein shake ...
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Messalina
Member
06-19-2005
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:17 pm
Probably shouldn't get into this here but... I lost both my parents when I was very young. Mother died when I was 2. Father when I was 4. When I was grown, in my 20s, after rejecting everybody I ever had a relationship with, a therapist told me I was only doing what had been done to me. When I protested that my parents hadn't rejected me but had died, he said it was the same thing...one day you have parents and the next day you don't = rejection. So, once I understood the pattern I learned how to work around it. It was hard work but it can be done. Skydiver....((((hugs)))) Losing a child is worse than losing parents. I know. I've lost a child too.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:19 pm
In my family we were raised to never ever sit on the kitchen counters, because that is where food is prepared, and we should be thankful to God for the food we get and eat. So to sit on the kitchen counters was like being disrespectful to God.
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Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:20 pm
Sure Dick can be hard to deal with. I doubt anyone here couldn't tell stories of how hard their parents were in some way or another. My mom was very hard on me and my dad occasionally burped in public places or at the dinner table and he was hard of hearing because he was old and I was often embarrassed but gosh - they were nothing like Dick!! I can't even imagine how awful it would be to say that man was my father.
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