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Shoppekeeper
Member
09-02-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 2:12 pm
Is it just me who seems to think that Eric being AP makes playing this game 10 times harder than it is for the other houseguests? And with that said is doing an amazing job by just still being there? To date he has had to vote against his alliance (more than once), perform obnoxious acts (more than once) and still try to have game. Not to mention the possibility of falling for another houseguest. Well I for one tip my hat off to him for surviving this long. Go Eric! Live long andn prosper.
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Jhmom
Member
07-10-2005
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 2:20 pm
Right there with you Shoppe! Eric has done well with his game while still trying to do as America dictates. Sometimes I like Eric and sometimes he is not my favorite, but he has done well for himself in this game even when Americas agenda didn't fit his. I don't think it matters if he wins or loses at this point, I think he has played one of the most difficult games on any HG in season's past. Keep it up Eric!
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 2:22 pm
I think it's AP that helped Eric a lot in this game. For once, he was never America's target compared to the others who got kicked out because of America's picks (which sometimes didn't make absolutely any sense in the game the were playing) and AP gave Eric the confidence to be gutsy and playful knowing he has the backing of America. He would have been evicted if it weren't for AP.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 2:25 pm
Well even if it is harder, he is still there and has earned a lot more money than all the rest at this point and still has a chance of winning more than any of them.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 2:36 pm
I think he deserves to be in the Final 2 based on how far he has gotten even though he has not been able to play his own game. Not many others could have done this.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 2:37 pm
Shoppe I'm happy to see you have this folder, because there has been tons of Eric bashing happening. I think there are very few people who would be able to carry out that role, in the way he has. He has the stress of playing just as a HG, the stress of playing as AP - for the viewers pacifications, and as someone said yesterday, he has no one to talk to. He literally has to be two seperate people in there. I commend him on getting this far, and I really want to see him in F2.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 2:52 pm
AP HELPED his game tenfold. He does not deserve to be in F2 compared to the others who were playing according to their own game and not because America was telling them what to do and make a bundle of money at the expense of the other players. The whole AP idea was wrong to start with. It should have been a player who ONLY played for America and not for himself also. If this AP would reach F4 he would play to lose and give America the final vote. This is how AP should have worked.
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Messalina
Member
06-19-2005
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 3:02 pm
I agree that Eric has had an enormously difficult job being AP and trying at the same time to play his own game. I've never complained about the way he's played AP even when many folks were down on him about the Nick eviction. I give him full props for juggling the whole nightmare season as well as he has. (I do have some issues with his personal behavior though and it's because of those that I hope he doesn't win.)
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 3:03 pm
Well I think the AP idea was a lousy one, but I do think it hurt eric's game more than it helped. His brother was very eloquent on that point over at SurvivorSucks, both at the start of the game and more recently. I'd rather see America as the "Producer" not a player, and vote on production-type issues such as having the DR reveal info, etc.
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Ambi
Member
08-11-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 3:15 pm
I simply cannot stand the smugness he and Jessica have demoonstrated throughout the game. It effects me more tha even Dick's behavior if that's possible. Not saying D/D aren't smug too but E/J get the smug award this year.
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2addicted
Member
07-17-2006
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 3:20 pm
Kmin said "I'd rather see America as the "Producer" not a player, and vote on production-type issues such as having the DR reveal info, etc." THAT is an excellent idea !!
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Donnagg
Member
08-11-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 3:41 pm
If Eric were not AP Dani and Dick would have been long gone. I think Eric has had to rethink his game more than once. I also don't see E/J as being more smug than D/D.
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Battlestar
Member
07-27-2005
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 3:49 pm
--and Eric also would have been long gone
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 3:58 pm
he needs to go before final 2 so we will have a vote
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Swannanoa
Member
07-09-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 4:02 pm
Well, I think Eric's done a fine job despite some of the majority of America's efforts to derail him. I don't think he's any more smug than Dani or Dick or anyone who has been in a position of power in any house on any season. I wouldn't mind seeing him in the F2. I don't think any of us have any idea how it must have felt for the majority of America NOT to have his back a couple of times. I don't like his remarks that he has made at times, but then again I don't like some of the remarks made at any given time by any of the other HGs either.
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Nancy73153
Member
08-10-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 4:11 pm
I agree with you all. (Maybe that is a BB trait to agree with whatever has been said last) BUT IMO America has sabatoged the AP in order to further the D&D faction. I am sure that is not what AG thought would happen. I hope the 'expect the unexpected' on BB this year is that America has no more say in who gets nominated or evicted. Everyone has bashed Eric for turning against his alliance but it was America (D&D lovers) that caused that. It was America that nominated Nick and evicted him. It was America that nominated Dustin and then evicted him. It was America that nominated and evicted Jen, Kail, Amber. Now it is America that hates the way Eric has played the game. He must feel like a schizoid and probably dreads the DR. The double talk is because he feels one way and America makes him do the exact opposite. Last week he convinced Jess about not using the POV because of the word he gave to D&D. But his word has been questioned continually. I think he is a smart player that would have gone the distance if it was not for the schizoid American voters.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 4:12 pm
I'm not a big fan of Eric as a person because he can act so obnoxious - but - I do think he's done a very good job. I'm amazed that he's still there. He's done a great job of crafting America's votes into a strategy. When America choose Dustin to go over Dick, Eric didn't whine, he just went with it and made it into his strategy. On the other hand, all the AP has done is give Dani and Dick a big leg up in the game. I'm not very big fans of them either. They already have a huge advantage of having each other. Now, they have a third person 100% loyal to them - even at a cost to his (Eric's) own position in the game. But, that's the deal. I was a Janelle fan. I would have been thrilled if there was an AP helping her through the game (I think so, at least.) So, I can't really whine that this year, America's favorite players are NOT my favorites. It's the way the cookie crumbles. Ok, I got way off topic. Yes, Eric's done a great job.
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Nancy73153
Member
08-10-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 4:20 pm
Oh and 1 final word, America will probably make him vote for his only real alliance in the house, Jessica. How right is that?
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Ambi
Member
08-11-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 4:24 pm
I don't think D/D has had any more advantage than E/J. Both are couples.
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Jgirl0129
Member
08-15-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 4:29 pm
Loppes - as usual we agree.
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Nancy73153
Member
08-10-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 4:30 pm
If you are watching the same show and all that I am, you have to know what a HUGE fan base Dick has. He is well known among the rock stars and he even let it slip that at one time he was in a limo with Janelle after BB6. That same fan base is all over this board. This same fan base is the sole reason for the obnoxious voting that America has done. I imagine they thought Eric mocking Dick would cause a huge problem, but the opposite has happened.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 4:43 pm
I respectfully disagree that Eric would have been evicted w/o AP. There wouldn't have been a hinky vote situation if Eric had been playing his own game. The houseguests didn't even suspect it was him until a banner pointed it out. He was well liked and trusted in the house up to that point. I believe Eric's AP role has been more of a hindrance to him game wise, yet HE has still managed to make it to the F5. Personal opinions of him aside, he is doing a great job playing the game and as AP. I don't know anyone else that could mimic Dick and get away with it JMO.
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Lakecat
Member
10-01-2006
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 4:44 pm
Eric definitely deserves to be in F2 for his dual role in the house.
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Wavelength
Member
07-25-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 4:59 pm
I think he is doing a wonderful job, all things considered. It has to be nerve wracking!! I wish I could like him more than I do though. Some of the comments he makes about women turn me off. Is he like that in real life or just trying to stay friends with Dick? Anyone have a theory?
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Dedonjo
Member
08-20-2006
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 5:04 pm
I agree that Eric has successfully played a game far more difficult than any other player in the house. He's made it this far in spite of the AP tasks and votes. AP hasn't helped him, only changed his game and required him to scramble to both perform tasks and cover for the votes that didn't make sense for his game. My guess is that if he'd been playing his own game, D & D would be long gone, and Eric would be on a fast track to final 2. He would never have aligned with Dick, which he did against his better judgement and will probably lose because of it...the game would have been quite different played his own way. I also like him as a person/character. Like every human being, inside the house or out, he has his quirks, but he seems like a genuine person with a good heart. I hope he ends up winning, unlikely as it seems to be heading that way. I'd love to see it. And if not, I can't wait for the AP reveal so he can have his moment in the spotlight... (I cannot wait to see Dick and Dani's disappointment that Eric has been the real big twist of the season, not them, lol)
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