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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 10:46 am
One thing is clear this year. Allison has become for more direct in her scripting of BB than Arnold ever was. It is very obvious that she has directly told HG's what they are to do in the DR, whereas it seems that Arnold might point them in a direction, but then left it to them to follow through. So, given this, do you really think that Allison has reported the AP votes accurately? Do you really think that those cute AP cards Eric gets say what the viewers want them to say? Or do they say what Allison wants done? I think they are Allison's desires and the voting is accurately reflected only when the votes agree with the direction Alison wants the show to go. When they don't, the voters are overruled by Allison's one vote -- and then Eric is sent on his way, obediently complying with his Mistress' desires.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 10:57 am
Given that it would be a huge scandal if anyone could prove that the public is spending money to vote on something that was not a real vote, I have to believe that it's accurate. I think the results seem skewed due to the automatic voting for any task that promotes the Donatos. As Eric goes so goes Jessica and anyone they influence. I do agree that the pressure on HGs seems greater than in past seasons, and the show is even more scripted than before.
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Landi
Member
07-29-2002
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 11:12 am
the cards have been an accurate representation of all of the votes i have cast this season. i have voted in EVERY SINGLE AP VOTE!
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 11:16 am
So, Landi! You and Allison are in this together! 
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 11:18 am
But Tresbien -- who would even take the time to try to prove them wrong? I think the possibility it would be found out, much less proven, is so minute, Allison has nothing to worry about and can have her puppy Eric do whatever she wants to get the results she wants.
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Mack
Member
07-23-2002
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 11:25 am
I'm with Landi and I've made most, though not all, AP votes but every vote I've made so far has turned out to be the AP vote. That doesn't really prove anything one way or the other but at least I haven't sat there wondering about the AP outcome. I'd agree that it appears BB is trying, through methods like leading questions, to influence the HGs a lot this year I'm not convinced they've stacked the AP vote or told HGs exactly what to do (outside of Eric).
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Merrysea
Member
08-13-2004
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 11:29 am
All the AP votes have been what I voted for.
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Sidecar
Member
07-23-2007
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 11:34 am
I think the influence is in the DR. I agree with Tres that there is too much at stake to have those votes tampered with. I think there is more than a minute chance that she could be found out given the fact that the votes dont go direct to her desk...the phone company, the company that tallies them, assistants, etc, etc.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 11:34 am
Oh, I think she goes by what the votes say. She just guides what the votes will be through the editing. Let's face it, every HG has done or said enough good and bad, for the producers to turn them into a villian or a saint, depending on how they are edited.
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Flyincows
Member
07-17-2005
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 11:35 am
I have virtually given up on this year of BB. It has seemed all too well 'scripted' from the outset. Obviously it is in AG's best interest to present an interesting show with high ratings and I believe that she will stop at nothing to do just that.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 11:39 am
If I spent money to vote, which I haven't and won't, and the outcome didn't seem to agree with what people were saying on the boards, I'd put pressure on CBS to open their records and show exactly what the votes were. I'd also urge that they hire an independent service to tally them. That said, it's just an entertainment show, so I don't think there's much chance they'd risk a scandal for it.
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Cokegirl
Member
03-08-2004
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 11:51 am
All the votes that I have texted are what AP choice was but not all of just internet votes were the same. I trust Allison about 1% of the time. That is only for when the shows will be on tv. (Sun., Tues. and Thurs.) but not what is on the shows.
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Geri
Member
07-08-2003
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 12:06 pm
Coke, you can't even trust the time of the shows if your CBS station carries a preseason football game!!!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 1:37 pm
i dont believe that the numbers are neccessarily real. for instance, when the votes are spread out over five possible people, the percentages are low. a person can win - like amber this week - with possibly only 25% of the vote. so 75% of us did NOT want Amber nominated. amb 25 zach 15 jam 12 dick 24 dani 24 lets pretend that the percentages above were the votes. I think that the voting has ZERO credibility unless the numbers are shown or at least the Top three contenders. in this case, the top three ( in my example) were Amber Dick and Dani. I feel that the producers can then CHoose whomever they wish for Good tv. the numbers are very close and it is a producer's choice. in the meantime, us the public are not neccessarily seeing whom we voted for nominated or evicted.
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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 2:09 pm
Sunshyne, Welcome to Democracy. The stats you put up are typical of any "election" involving several candidates. Let's take the current crop of Democrats running for President as an example. In a primary, the votes could look like this: Biden:10 Clinton:25 Dodd:5 Edwards:22 Gravel:5 Kucinich:5 Obama:23 Richardson:5 So Hilary "wins" the primary by getting the highest percentage, but the next 2 candidates combined have 45% of the vote. It also means that 75% of the people didn't vote for her, but she is now "their" candidate. This is the way multiple votes have ALWAYS worked throughout US History. It is also why many Republicans and Democrats are opposed to "third parties" because they feel it dilutes the voters desires. However, if less than 50% of eligible voters have been voting, and only about half vote for the winner, then only 25% of the public elected the winner. So, if Amber got the most votes by even .05%, she still got the most votes and her name gets on the card. Like it or not, that is how democracy works. The one with the most votes, even if they're not the "majority" choice, wins.
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Shelby6100
Member
08-02-2007
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 2:22 pm
I'd be curious to know how many people use the automatic voting and for who. Also, does anyone know if these programs really work?
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Dizzyb
Member
08-24-2007
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 2:31 pm
Does anyone remember the quiz show scandals??? There is no way that any network honcho would risk the wrath of the US government to switch up vote totals on something as trivial as Big Brother. I think that these things are monitored so carefully, it would be career suicide to do so. If there were a disclaimer stating that BB could change voting as it saw fit, then, yes, it would be done to make it more interesting. Influence in the DR-sure! Why not? This isn't a controlled clinical trial-it's entertainment tv. If the ratings fell off the chart, BB would be over forever. Cue the sun.....
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 2:33 pm
I think the voting has been very accurate and a true representation, for no other reason than by just reading the board. I have always thought this board was a great "true slice of opinions" and the board has been truly represented in the APs
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Bubba
Member
07-29-2005
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 2:37 pm
I read on the boards someone say they had access to a hundred computers and they were all voting for Dick I think it was, don't remember who it was but someone I would not vote for. I believe someone else said they had access to 30 computers. So my question is how many computers or cell phones do the producers have access too? Do I trust Allison? Heck no, I don't even trust Bush.
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Kittyab
Member
07-16-2005
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 2:51 pm
Ummmm no I dont trust Allison or CBS LOL!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 2:56 pm
i dont believe for a minute that the Vote was for Jessica to be Eric's Kiss. Not for a min. Did even one person here vote for that? or in the Woobie task? i just think it is a scam and dont mind ranting my thoughts LOL
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Squeaker
Member
08-24-2007
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 3:01 pm
Sun- I voted for eric to give the woobie to ED !
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 3:01 pm
Alison is doing what she's supposed to: edit the shows in such a way to maximize drama and create storylines. If she doesn't do that well, the ratings fall, the show gets canned, and she's out of work. Does she slant some stories? Yes she does (showing things out of sequence or context), but all reality shows do that to an extent. The thing here is we know what actually happened and when. If we got to see everything that happened for the 39 days of Survivor and then see the edited shows, we'd know some things were altered for drama (without compromising the game). I trust Alison to do what she's paid to do, and no more than that.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 3:01 pm
Too many people are involved. No way could this be covered up. Agree with Tres, too.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 3:10 pm
I did, for both of them. Thought it could possibly hurt Jess if the vote was for any of the other women in the house and watching someone get hurt isn't entertainment for me. Having him kiss one of the guys or giving them the woobie would just be to make a joke out of Eric and personally I don't find that funny. First several weeks my votes were always opposite of America's choice, but from reading the board I knew it would be. The last couple weeks, my votes have been pretty consistent with America's votes, and again I've known that from reading the board.
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