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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 8:40 am
I find the fact that Dick is 44 is interesting for a couple of reasons. One reason I find it interesting is that people keep mentioning it. We all laughed when Will repeatedly referred to his girlfriend Erin by her full name with the added distinction that she is Erin Brodie, two time winner of For Love or Money. We laughed about it to the point that people on the board started referring to her as EBTTWFLM or something to that effect. People continually mention Dick's age in posts. He is strongly associated with being 44. I suspect that one of the reasons for this is that people don't believe that Dick is acting like a 44-year-old man should act. Dick the 44-year-old man, fighting with Jen the 23 year old women is a frequent refrain. My question is are we doing both of these people a disservice by associating age with maturity? Is it a mistake to assume that the older a person is the more emotionally mature they will be and that a young person will be less emotionally mature? The other thing that fascinates me about Dick's age is he is the first really competitive "older" houseguest in the history of BB. All of the previous older HGs have either been quickly eliminated, automatically treated as objects of derision, never had a chance at winning or being involved in the day to day activities in the house and had a peripheral affect on the game at best. How has Dick managed to be so successful at involving himself with a group of very young people where he should have stuck out like a sore thumb? He is involved and a seemingly welcome part of their activities, he is not isolated and he has had a significant impact on the game play. No one other than Jen has made particularly derisive comments about him. I don't think Dani's presence has particularly helped, given her own lack of social intermingling. Dick is far more involved with the other players in a social sense than Dani. So how did the 44 year old guy do it?
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 8:46 am
intimidation
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Kimsue
Member
07-08-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 8:49 am
I don't know....If my pubescent daughter were in the house with me I would evict myself. I am having trouble thinking that having a family member in the house would help any ones chances. Mark my words..... One of them will be gone soon!
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 8:50 am
I'm way more mature now than when I was 23. I think most people do mature with age. I expect more maturity out of 44 year old than a 23 year old.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 8:50 am
I hate the age factor being brought up time and again. You are so right. Age has nothing to do with how they play the game. My best friend is 16 years younger than me, and we are like sisters.
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Bubba
Member
07-29-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 8:51 am
lots of help from BB.
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Kimsue
Member
07-08-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 8:55 am
Bubba...........I love your screen name! That is what I have called my son since the day he was born. That's not his name.....just a nick name for his mom (me)to use.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 8:56 am
how is a 44 year old supposed to act while playing a game to win 500,000 when stuck in a house with much younger hgs? he needs to make himself appear not like the old man. if he acted like a 44 year old that most people think a 44 year old should act, he would have been gone week 2. he knows this, he's watched the game long enough.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 8:57 am
First off...let me tell you that 44 is pretty young...lol It can only be considered older as compared to all the 20 somethings in the house. Second, I agree with Ketchup...intimidation. He has also helped himself by being able to win an HOH and POV...and having his daughter HAS helped alot because she is also extremely good at winning HOH's (2) and POV's (3) to keep them both safe.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 8:58 am
I think it has to do with his looks for one, and his demenor second. He did not sit back and allow anyone of them from day one to make him out to be the old letch. Jen tried and his open in front of all response stopped that crap right there. He also being a fan for years knows that juries vote on a personal level and wasn't going to be Mr. Niceguy Dad, but the mean a**hole he said he was going to be. He takes a lot of heat off of them in tense situations, and they know he's all bark and no bite. He is very intelligent and has many of the same musical and entertainment likes that they do, so they can have conversations with him. He's just not your average 44 year old guy with a family at home. He doesn't go to bed at 8 and wake up at 8, he's a night owl and that again is how he stays up on all the house happenings. Mostly I think because he's honest. He keeps his word if he shakes on it and they know that. He holds nothing back and therefore doesn't appear to be sneaky. He's the guy they'd all like to party with outside the house. Who would have wanted to party with Kent or Gerry? Dick is a fun guy and if they stay on his good side and they are honest with him he stays loyal to them.
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Bubba
Member
07-29-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:00 am
Actually I like older people who are young at heart, don't act old because that is what is expected of them. I don't have a problem with Dick's maturaty, It is his personality that I don't care for.
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Askme_who_ur
Member
08-19-2006
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:01 am
considering only actions here... I think when I was 23 I was much more mature than than this 44 yr old man is acting. It is really difficult to fathom what next year will bring with the preciedent that Dick has set up. With the loose reins bb has given Dick, he has pushed the rules to the furthest limits on what is allowable IMO. What will next year bring ? Each year the rules are bent further. What will it take for BB to step in and intervene ?
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Bubba
Member
07-29-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:02 am
Earth Zack was honest with him and now he hates him.
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Kimsue
Member
07-08-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:27 am
What will it take for BB to step in and intervene ? Apparently it takes eating while you are on slop for them to finally, actually do something in the way of penalty.
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Mickiej
Member
07-26-2004
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:32 am
I agree with Earthmother and Zachsmom - Dick's game was to play to hard guy, and to erode away at the other other guests. With his background...being a bartender, and living the lifestyle he chose...he is well adept at working his plan. Knowing BB as well as he does is a plus for him. One's disagreement with Dick's plan doesn't warrant a judgement on his level of maturity. Dick is what he is. I would bet that his game play at 44 is miles better than his "supposed" game play if he were 23....and on BB. Dick is what he is, like him or dislike him, he is drawing attention to the game. In the end, that is what the producers want, and that is what is put forward as entertainment.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:47 am
I always thought it would be fun to have a BB with some oldsters that still want to have fun. How about a show with a Jack, Kent, Gerry, Sheryl, Monica, Dick, George combo? Can you imagine the interaction between Monica and Dick?? lol And I remember Sheryl was the ORIGINAL Mrs. Robinson. Will and Boogie were quite appreciative of her assets.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:53 am
The 44 year old man who shall not be named has lasted this long because: A. Dad (see B for more confusion) scares all the kids B. He does not remind the kids of their own father 'cause of the tats and 'mad awesome hair' and knows all the music and Hollywood kinda stuff they all know. C. Because BB is afraid to kick him out of the house no matter what he has done (goes back to the Dad reprimanding the kid thing from A) D. Dumb luck
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:58 am
Actually, he's lasted this long because America likes him. He would have gone instead of Dustin if Eric hadn't been told to target Dustin.
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Kimsue
Member
07-08-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:04 am
Huk..... In the voice of Professor McGonigall "10 points to the BB for just dumb luck."
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:08 am
Love HP, Kimsue!! <rushes out to catch that elusive golden snitch>
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:28 am
cuz he is a young 44, prolly cuz he wks at a bar and hangs with younger crowd.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:32 am
How has Dick managed to be so successful at involving himself with a group of very young people where he should have stuck out like a sore thumb? he did stick out like a sore thumb! And to add to Ketchup's INtimidation I'd like to add Dominating!! each conversation was dominated, every story was oneupped, no one could go outside without being scrutinized and watched due to Dick's constant smoking outside. inside the house no one could get away from his loud threatening voice and his number one topic of conversation was how much he hated jen and all the things he wanted to do with her (killing, sodomizing, choking, crushing, smothering) Dick is in that house because the kids didnt know how to get him out without risking serious harrassment. ********** as for why we keep saying 44 yr old!! is because he looks 54 yet acts 14 LOL I just loved Zach the other day after Dick popped a hissy fit and walked off. OH BB, why did you put me in the house with a 12 yr old!! (I did screencaps of the fight)
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:33 am
I have met some really old 20 somethings and some really young 40 somethings. Depends on their outlook on life. I prefer the young 40 somethings myself.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:36 am
i agree. One of my younger sister's best friends was in her 80s. She was so much fun I used to go visit sometimes too. I completely agree it depends on outlook of life.
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Carmil
Member
07-17-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:44 am
Dick is a fun guy. I bet he was a fun guy at 24.. still a fun guy at 44.. and will continue to be a fun guy at 64. Age truly is just a number. Dick proves that being 44 doesn't mean it's time to lose your sense of humor or your sense of fun. Most of the guys that Dick dresses like are his age. Think of Tommy Lee, Keith Richards, Dave Navarro, etc... all in their 40's or maybe even older. Live and let live. Gift wrap yourself in what suits you on the inside if that's what makes you happy. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it! LOL!
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