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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 7: Fair TV Coverage of the Dick/Jen Fight or Not?: Archive through August 24, 2007 users admin

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Rubyroo77
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08-13-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 4:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rubyroo77 a private message Print Post    
How can you have a passion to be in the house when everybody hates you? Dick took control of the house because he is so loud and vile and scary..and took all of the fun and joy away from playing BB. He was so intimidating that the other hg's were afraid of him and didn't dare stand up for her..and they developed a mob mentality and started thinking yeah..Jen's a liar..yeah she smells.. He made it a prison, and BB helped him.

As far as the truce is concerned DICK never, ever stopped- he kept assaulting Jen behind her back the whole time- like I said there was NO TRUCE!!!!

So what if Jen ate..who cares about that? Even Zach understood why she ate..She was backdoored had no chance for veto- had been up on the block 4 times-was told by dick that she was going home repeatedly every week..I would have eaten, too! In fact I LOVED that she ate!!

I laugh because people in the house and outside said that she was taking away from the integrity of the game- what integrity..it's a game about lying,greed and backstabbing to get half a million bucks!

Izzysmydog
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08-13-2007

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 5:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Izzysmydog a private message Print Post    
I've been reading things here and thought I'd give my slant, for what it's worth. By Jen's own admission, she didn't apply for the show but was cast. BB probably cast her as "eye candy" for all the men in the audience. That being said, she did her job and then some. Especially with the unitard. (wonder if BB might have given her some hint as to what gift to get), because when she opened it she acted as if it was there just for her.

I wonder if all of the things done this week, were just to make sure that last night she got enough "airtime" to get her set in people's minds so she could get more jobs in Hollywood. She seemed like everything she did was done for a purpose the whole time she was on the show.

I have to agree with Tool that it looked as if BB thew her a bone with the HOH competition. I don't remember another time that a evicted houseguest participated in a HOH competition in any way shape or form.. More airtime for Jen..

I, for one, can't wait to see how much time is spent on the sequester house now that she is supposed to be going there.. Bet it will be more about her than Dustin.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox...

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 5:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
Alison played a part in a comp on BB Allstars right after she was evicted. It was questions and they had to guess what Allison would say.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 5:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
Izzy....Allison participate in HOH just after eviction just like Jen.

Nothing special done for Jen in that instance...been done before.

Fan3
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07-07-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 5:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fan3 a private message Print Post    
they did that for allison and I think there was one other time..

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 5:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
Rubyroo.....

I LOVED your post and think it is "RIGHT ON"!!!! Great job! I totally AGREE!

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 5:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
We get a lot of vortex and though it seems that Jen has never said or done anything (I don't believe that for one second, she has goaded Dick for weeks ) how do we really know? She may do and say some really ugly stuff we have never seen or heard. To blame BB for setting her up imo is not fair since they can't make you do anything you don't want to do. Jen had to take responsibility for what she contributed to the game good or bad. Eventually Dick will have to do the same unless he's being taken to the final two because they believe he will not win against them. They all thought the same thing about Will and he proved that good, bad or indifferent people want to watch someone play the game. I was disgusted that Lisa beat Dani in season 3..that jury vote was based on nothing but childish, petty personal reasons.

Nick
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07-31-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
not really on topic but i realized last night what kept bothering me about jen.. because on the whole i liked her...

her face never wrinkled.. it was also smooth.. her forehead and around her mouth.. i kept thinking geez she never frowns.. but i think she couldn't... i bet she's a botox queen to keep the wrinkles from forming in her skin...

so her face was always this sort of plastic looking mask because it never showed any emotion except a smile but even then her skin didn't 'crack'..



Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
I'm just glad that, for now, Dick's support on the fan poll is falling, and jen's is rising

Some take the poll seriously

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
other than the smoke blowing in Jen's face all of the other moves i saw Dick display were defensive with Jen attacking him. i agree he should not have blown smoke in her face. that was a dumb move on his part. otherwise, i only saw him try to defend against her.

Sassynegal
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01-21-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sassynegal a private message Print Post    
I agree that neither were right, but I still can't help thinking she was trying to get Dick to go overboard so he'd get thrown out or even put up against her (penalty nom) and thus saving herself.

Forget it was Dick - destroying someone's property is NOT ok in my opinion. I am not a Dick fan, but I was amazed that they let it happen and then she got a penalty vote. I hope they took the $$ to replace them from her stipend as it's just not a behavior they should let slide.

Nick
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07-31-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
jen was trying to get the cig out of dick's hand and he was pulling it back from her.. and at times jabbing at her as well.. typical childish squabble..

both have a lot to learn from their actions.. and i doubt either ever will..

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Jen got a penalty vote for eating food, nothing else. Just sayin'.

Poppy
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07-21-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Poppy a private message Print Post    
I find it interesting that anyone who tries to take a cigarette out of someone else's hand is shocked if they get burned. I frankly didn't see anything wrong with Dick's reactions. He shouldn't have blown smoke in her face but her response was absolutely over the line.

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Jen should have just poured mustard on all the cigs. How could BB have a problem with that?

Poppy
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07-21-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Poppy a private message Print Post    
Nerovh - BB may have said something to Jen about destroying Dick's cigarettes in her DR visits, and they did replace them, but she wasn't penalized because of what she did to the cigarettes. She was penalized because of her eating when she volunteered to be on slop for the rest of her time in the house.

So many have said that because of the fact that she was leaving anyway, etc., that justified her going ahead and eating. It's just my personal opinion that if someone volunteers in a competition to be on slop for the rest of their time in the house, that regardless of the situation they should remain on slop. Just my opinion of course.

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
actually i wish she had gotten a bucket of water and doused dick and the cigarette. she would have gotten off scott free on that one considering it had already been done to her. sigh. such is hindesight

Nick
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07-31-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
oh i dunno... there's keeping your word yes.. but if i knew absolutely i was leaving? and the penalty was minimal like it was (penalty vote - um,, yeah ok right.. i'm going anyway) .. i might eat..

jen did a few things that made bb history -

hamsters often discussed this very thing.. why not just eat if you know you're going and you're on food restriction... she did

she's the only one that swam the 440 laps..

she took on challenges because she could.. and as she admitted.. she's a random person.. living somewhat in the moment.. she just does stuff.. and enjoys the outcome..



Boberg
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10-04-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
"Jen should have just poured mustard on all the cigs. How could BB have a problem with that?"

Actually, Jen should have just dumped tea over ED's head each time he lit up around her! LOL..no way BB could have a problem with that.

Nick
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07-31-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
gidget.. that is an absolutely awesome idea!

perfect hindsight!



Boberg
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10-04-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
Nick another bb history was consecutive times on the block.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
I find the words people use to describe what happened fascinating.

After watching what happened myself, I'd never say Dick blew smoke in her face. Which isn't to say he was right to even blow it in her direction as he was obvoiusly doing it annoy her but it wasn't as audacious as "blew smoke in her face" makes it seem.

Then there's the cigarette burning incident which I found to be somewhere in between the descriptions the two factions of people have offered. Dick was definitely intentionally moving his cigarette towards Jen with the intent of burning her after she kept going for it despite his "don't touch me" warning. He even smirked at her when she said "you already burned me" so you can see that he was doing it purposely. However, he was neither jabbing or stabbing his cigarette at her. She would grab for it and he'd move it right at her hand rather than pulling it back. There's a big difference between that and maliciously stabbing/jabbing it at her.

On the flip side, I do think that moment was truly an emotional moment for Jen. I understand thinking she planned out the first part. She definitely hid her clothes because she knew she was about to provoke Dick - she even said that herself in the DR. Then she calmly went through with her plan after pretending that she wasn't up to anything when Dick asked why all her stuff was gone. It was AFTER Big Brother gave Dick replacement cigarette's that you can clearly see that Jen lost it. And his blowing smoke her way at that moment didn't help... because it did make it seem like BB was giving Jen had no way to fight against his purposely using the somiking thing to get to her. She was visibly upset when she went for his cigarette and got into the skirmish with him.

So, I do think BB portrayed the incident fairly. Both of them looked petty and childish and like they were purposely doing things to provoke each other. Whether they portrayed the result of it fairly is another question because they certainly seemed to give the others a better edit than they may have deserved. I actually felt like Zach and Eric ended up looking like they were disgusted with Dick at the end of it... not that they were annoyed at Jen. Ironically, I think that's what made the stuff that happened as Jen walked out the door look even worse. (I'm not excusing it either way but it was more understandable knowing what led up to that moment.)

Poppy
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07-21-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Poppy a private message Print Post    
Raenstorm - great post.

Nick - I was struck when she said that random described her as a person. Personally, I didn't take that as being in any way a good way to describe oneself. And I don't think she enjoyed the outcome of many things that happened in the house, regardless of her repeatedly saying that nothing bothered her.

Rubyroo77
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08-13-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rubyroo77 a private message Print Post    
Actually "random" is a good thing. She was able to be happy about things that some whined about in the house- she ate slop happily (until the last few days when she was there and why not) she made the most out of the bunny suit..she has a wonderful random personality..she even comforted those who were sad, and they didn't comfort her.
I don't blame Jen for not letting it be known if things bothered her- why let evil win..why let BB win-good for her!

Llate
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08-21-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 10:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llate a private message Print Post    
have we all forgotten about jen's antics from only a few weeks ago? lying about nick trying to "make out" with her, calling Danielle a cheater, etc? her whole persona of being a positive person is so fake. i wouldn't call her smart either. what sort of person tries to grab a lit cigarette with the palm of their hand? wouldn't it make more sense to use your thumb and index finger? she was intentially trying to get burned so she could blame dick. i'm glad she's gone.