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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 1:38 pm
People are sworn in with hand on Bible (usually). We said cross my heart and hope to die (if I'm lying) as kids Swearing on relatives is common on Survivor and BB Dustin swore to Dick on his mother and brother that he'd vote Eric out.. He didn't keep it but Amber kept her swear TO keep Eric in. This reminds me of the movie Boys on the Side when Mary Louise Parker's character goes on the stand to testify and says "if I'm lying may I be struck by an incurable disease", knowing she was lying but that she already had AIDs.
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Mack
Member
07-23-2002
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 1:40 pm
I don't think it's any particular surprise that Amber is not exactly "schooled" in her religion. The "God bless you" in her prayer certainly was fairly good evidence of that. In my mind Amber uses catch phrases she's picked up over the years without any particular attention or understanding of exactly what they mean or what she is saying. It's more a habit of speech for her than a conscious act. In all honesty I've learned many of the things I picked up around my parents, both from the Mid-West, were not understood outside of our house or in some other part of the country. Some I've had to consciously eliminate from my day-to-day conversations as they're either not understood or have taken on a different meaning over the years.
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Mack
Member
07-23-2002
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 1:44 pm
Oops....double post.
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Hummingbird
Member
08-21-2002
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:30 pm
Has Amber ever sworn on her dog's life?
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Just_gail
Member
08-25-2007
| Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 2:14 am
Swearing an oath is silly. Honest people tell the truth without taking an oath. Liars lie even under oath. Some Christians (like me) don't believe in swearing on anything at all. Just state the truth simply. (My first post here. )
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Bicbicz911
Member
08-20-2005
| Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 2:28 am
(Sea, I'm a few days late seeing your post, but it made me smile. That's one of my most favorite movies ever )
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 3:16 am
KJ James 5:12 But above all things, my bretheren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnatian. With this said, some Christians believe we shouldn't even swear on the Bible to give testimony in court. Swear on one of children's life? No way. But, Amber will grow in Christ and we should not stunt her growth. We should teach her. Other translations of this Bible verse are availabler on EM request.
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Dfng
Member
08-04-2005
| Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 3:31 am
Just_Gail... welcome to the boards. Swearing on someone's life is pretty meaningless to me however, it seems to mean a lot to Amber and that is why I find it disturbing. Others have said it better but why in the heck would you do that to your child if you actually believe something could happen to them. She really thinks her child is at risk if she goes back on her word... but she is happy to put her child at "said risk". I guess I would never ever put my son at risk for anything.
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 4:06 am
DF a thread kill requires an explanation, not just another opinion.
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Castleexplorer
Member
08-10-2005
| Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 8:44 am
I dislike her swearing on her daughter's life. That's sacrosanct in my opinion. I am a practical joker and am always teasing my friends almost to the point that they don't know if I'm telling the truth or not. i.e. say a news article. If the news article or story I'm telling them sounds to weird to be true, I finally have to say, "I swear on my grandmother's grave" before they'll believe me. lol (I feel like I'm in the mob or something when I say it.) They all know the deep love and respect that I have/had for my grandma, so then they'll believe what I'm saying. I don't know that it's bad karma, and knowing my grandma, she wouldn't mind, she loved my wicked sense of humor. A. She is no longer there. B. She is already dead. I see no karma problems with those facts. But, I am who I am...no apologies. 
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Tanzanite
Member
06-28-2005
| Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 5:14 pm
This is not expected to be accepted by everyone but what seems to be th e definitive position on this matter is found in Matthew 5:34 ..."But, I say to you do not swear at all; neither by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35 nor by the earth for it is His footstool;nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great KIng.36. Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. 37. But let your Yes be Yes and your No, No. For whatever is more than these is from the evil one. Faith is personal. The tenets of a faith are things that grow with the growth of the believer. This happens to be a mandate issued by the Founder of "the Church" Jesus himself, however to a new convert or an unlearned believer without knowledge,they enter into all sorts of unknown errorneous situations. I suppose that's why the scriptures also state that one should STUDY to show themselves approved unto God, a workman who will not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 8:24 pm
I just don't get swearing on someone else's life. If you believe something will happen, you're risking their life. If you believe in that sort of nonsense, at least swear on your own life, not some innocent party.
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Jaided
Member
08-04-2007
| Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 8:43 pm
I haven't read all the responses.. just the opening post. So this is my answer.... This is ONLY me... lol.. and how *I* see that comment. Anyone who knows me knows that if I say "I swear to god on my mothers life" then I mean it. It is like a guarantee.. cuz people who know me know how I feel about my mom. Now my mom is passed... so when I say it.. In my head I think if I go back on my word my mom will get taken and flogged for it.. I know it is very silly... but it is what holds me to my word.. I think it is silly just typing it out.. but I have to consider my actions to be accountable.. cuz I like to be a person true to my word. Futile I am sure.. but it works for me and keeps me honest... 
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Kiari43
Member
08-25-2005
| Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 8:56 pm
I have never in my life used the term "I swear on _______" Just isn't in my vocabulary, I guess I always figured "I promise" was good enough, why even possibly jinx someone I love?
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Tanzanite
Member
06-28-2005
| Monday, August 27, 2007 - 10:19 am
37. But let your Yes be Yes and your No, No. For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.
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Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Monday, August 27, 2007 - 10:25 am
Makes ya wonder what ever happened to.. Cross my heart and hope to die. Stick a needle in my eye.
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Tanzanite
Member
06-28-2005
| Monday, August 27, 2007 - 4:06 pm
Not Really. 'Cause:37. But let your Yes be Yes and your No, No. For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.
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