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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 7: Has BB Sunk To A New Low This Season?: Archive through August 22, 2007 users admin

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Dedonjo
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08-20-2006

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dedonjo a private message Print Post    
"I'm with you, too, Safran, Nynana and Skydiver6."

So am I.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"is that really so different from what's taking place now?"

That would be an emphatic YES.

Rejectedhamster
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08-17-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rejectedhamster a private message Print Post    
Hamster: "is that really so different from what's taking place now?"

SFJF: That would be an emphatic YES.
____

Why? Because its from a woman directed towards a man?

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Nicole yelled and cursed. Dick hates.

Yes, that's very different.

YMMV

Rejectedhamster
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08-17-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rejectedhamster a private message Print Post    
Anger is anger... regardless of gender, regardless of motivation. Dick doesn't hate Jen any more than Nicole hated Will (as far as we know).

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 8:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Nicole was Little Miss Sunshine compared to ED. She didn't ask Will to suck any part of her and didn't threated to force foreign objects into his bits and pieces.

Who cares, anyway? Even if she was the devil, it doesn't make ED's rants any less vile.

Rejectedhamster
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08-17-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 8:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rejectedhamster a private message Print Post    
Exactly my point! The devil's been around since BB2! It hasn't hit any new lows... it just shows up in different flavors! Every year... some worse than others, but its there none the less!

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 9:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
I totally agree, Puzzled. Bad behavior doesn't rise to the level of hateful threats of violent anal rape. I can't understand how anyone could say that all bad behavior is the same. It isn't and we all know it. Dick's behavior is indefensible, no matter what someone else has done.

CBS has totally sunk to a new low this year. At this point, I half expect them to hold a dogfight in the BY as POV comp.....the HG that guesses which dog is killed first wins POV! (please note - that was just sarcasm)

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 11:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
Agreed Sanfran. I was a big Dick supporter but can not condone any more abuse after last night. I feel Dani doesn't really like him either but he is her ally, leaving her no choice. She does not look happy when he hovers over her.

Jen
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07-27-2003

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 11:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
Dick has stated on several occasions how much he hates Jen. To Dani, to Jen, to himself when everyone else is asleep. He does HATE her. He's told us that repeatedly. His actions have been due to anger and not being able to control himself.

Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 11:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carrie92 a private message Print Post    
As much as I don't like Jen, I have to admire her ability to take what she's taken. I would have crumbled and been sent to an asylum by now.
Yes, she does push Dick's buttons.

But, I think it's hard to determine when or if someone has crossed the verbal line. Most of us agree he has, but it is arguable.
What is scary though, is that there are times when you feel he is a moment away from being physical. And if that were to happen, CBS would be in some big trouble, as past evidence will speak for itself.

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 11:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
I've often thought that Carrie. Maybe Jen was trying to get him to get physical to get him booted last night. If that was her goal I think she should keep trying until Thursday evening.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 12:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Add me to the list of those who agree with Sanfranjosh. Each year, the level of abuse - or maybe I should call it extreme negative behavior - just seems to get a little higher. Since there are many who don't seem too bothered by ED and others, it's just nice to know there are some of us who are in agreement.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 12:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
This was taken from Joker's site (action alert)

Week of August 6, 2007

CBS’s and the producers of the reality show Big Brother 8 are allowing a contestant on the show to verbally abuse and threaten a female contestant with violence.

One of the show's contestants, a 44-year-old man named Dick has repeatedly verbally attacked 23-year-old Jen, calling her crude names, telling her he’d like to sodomize her until she bleeds to death and that if he was wasn't in the house (and at risk of being expelled) he would like to kill her. In a recent episode, he dumped a glass of tea over Jen's head, laughed about it, and said he wished it had been "piss." Many fans called for his expulsion from the Big Brother house. Instead, Dick is still in the house and CBS is running ads promoting the "explosive" events of the house.

Contact CBS and tell them allowing this kind of abusive behavior for the sake of entertainment is irresponsible and unforgivable.

Contact CBS:
CBS Television Network
51 West 52nd Street
New York, NY 10019
(212) 975-4321

And the show's producers:
Allison Grodner Productions Inc.
12925 Riverside Dr, 4th Floor
Sherman Oaks, CA 91423
(818) 325-6900

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 12:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Text from a recent email response: (from the same Joker's site)


Thanks for writing on the NOW website about the Big Brother show and Dick,the contestant, and his abusive behavior.

Last week we launched a letter-writing campaign regarding this show.

Last week we asked everyone on our email list to contact the network and the show's producer and complain.

We are also sending a letter from CA NOW (representing our 100,000 members and donors) to the producers and network.

Thanks for thinking of us and for adding your input to the mounting concern over this show's endorsement (through their silence and failure to act) of abusive, misogynistic and homophobic behavior.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 12:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Spunky, for the addresses! While it's true dick may not be the first to display this behavior, that fact doesn't excuse it.

Kiersten_love
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 12:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kiersten_love a private message Print Post    
I am sure there will be a huge backlash of lawsuits from this year's BB, with Dick and his behavior, right down to America's Player and the other houseguests incests remarks and abusive and graphic remarks we had to hear as well behind Dick and Danielle's backs as well. There will be lots of finger pointing and WHY's for this season of BB.

I agree, perhaps some intervention in the beginning could have put a stop to all this, but we know how BB loves to push that envelope off the table.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
in answer to the title of this thread. YEP!

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
Yes....And I truly feel EDick IS capable of violent things.....to me, "where there is smoke, there is fire"....

(Most people could not even THINK of the horrible things he has said to Jen, someone he BARELY knows....)

What555456
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06-14-2005

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 5:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
From Dedonjo above:

"I'm with you, too, Safran, Nynana and Skydiver6."
So am I.


There are more of us than many may think who have stopped watching.

It is the only effective way to reject Dick's abuse of women and BB's acceptance and encouragement of mysoginistic hatred as entertainment and to not align oneself with those on here (most of whom, interestingly, are women) who find it refreshing, funny and enjoyable.

Vee
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02-23-2004

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vee a private message Print Post    
Yes, there is a particularly heinous element in the BB house this year that is far more than I've ever seen in all the years that I've watched BB.

If this abuse were to continue unabated, I'd feel too guilty to watch again since I believe that by watching I am as complicit in allowing the behavior as those in the house who stand by and cheer it on or those here who find it amusing.

I've already written letters and emails. It's simply too much and, as Sanfran suggests, it looks like a dog fight where the object is to leave someone dead. Not funny and not fun.

Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carrie92 a private message Print Post    
What's really sickening is that Dick continues to rank high in CBS' popularity polls.

I thought that in S6 Howie was told to tone it down when he went off on April. That is nothing compared to Dick. He goes well beyond "going off" or "ranting".
Is it just because she hasn't cried? Because she stands up to him? That doesn't make it okay.

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
I'm so glad I started this Thread. It is truly how I feel and I feel they should of addressed this kind of behavior from the very start and anyone that continued to do it got a penalty nom. There is only one word for this and that is DISGUSTING.

In my life I have never had to endure being around such a person as Dick. As it gets closer and closer to the end of the show I see the remaining house guest taking on his behavior.

I will never understand what makes a man or anyone do that to a woman or to EVEN think it's acceptable.

*sighs*

Pixieduster
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09-27-2004

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pixieduster a private message Print Post    
I found this link and thought it would be good placed here. I also posted a Open Letter thread and will put a copy in there as well.

This year was definitely the tipping point for me and feel it's necessary to use my voice in protest of their casting, their manipulation, their slanted views through editing, etc.

Enough!

http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Board=BBDiscussion&Number=6724643


I can honor those who think this has all be grandly entertaining...that's their opinion and they can express them as well. I'm just feeling obligated to express mine in ways that hopefully will have an impact and am making a personal choice to "just say no."

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
What's really sickening is that Dick continues to rank high in CBS' popularity polls.

Who says the polls are legit. Nearly everything else is manipulated. Why not the polls?