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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 7: Has BB Sunk To A New Low This Season?: Archive through August 20, 2007 users admin

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Amac
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09-07-2001

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Amac a private message Print Post    
You know the show has sunk to a new low when we have to even ask such a question--and a significant number of responses say yes.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 2:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
This is the best season since 3..I couldn't tell you who was in 4 or 5. I loved 6, hated last year. This is probably my favorite since season 1.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
Me too Earthmother.

Carmenv
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04-14-2006

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 2:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carmenv a private message Print Post    
Aren't all reality shows scripted/influenced by producers to some degree, though? I've read lots of articles that seem to indicate none of them are as "real" as we are led to believe...

Either way, I'm entertained, and there is much else on during the summer, so I look forward to BB every year!

Frogichik
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06-11-2002

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frogichik a private message Print Post    
BB and the Diary Room antics have been around since BB2... Come on, you guys must remember the Conspiracy Thread

I am shocked how many people think this is new! If you are appalled by producer involvement in reality TV you might as well quit watching ALL reality TV because every show has producer involvement to some level. Start paying attention to the disclaimer that runs in the credits at the end of some shows, Top Chef, etc.

The one year the the houseguests weren't swayed by producer involvement was BB6 and it gave us Maggie as a winner. That's why Jen (BB6) was so pissed when the played the song Stupid Girl the morning she nominated Kaysar. She knew the DR didn't want him out so fast. That is just one example I can think of. Maggie always kept her group intact and would never let them doubt their group and it worked for them, but sucked for us.

Just have fun with it. So what if they guide them here and there, it's still ultimately up to the houseguets to make the final decisions.

Stopthemadness
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07-15-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 3:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stopthemadness a private message Print Post    
I love BB and wouldn't think it was summer without it. Every year there are people who complain and say the show won't be back again, but it is still around. Mind you I have a few complaints myself, maybe even more this season then others, but all in all I LOVE this show!!!

Ecoop
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07-07-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 3:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ecoop a private message Print Post    
I don't think all reality shows are manipulated as much as BB. Specific examples I can think of are Amazing Race and Survivor. The main reason, I believe, is the fact that those shows are shot well ahead of the airing date. They have no way of knowing how the characters will come over to the viewer until the show is in the can. With BB, the producers get immediate feedback on how the viewers (TV and live feed) are reacting. They have both motive and opportunity (sounds like a crime, huh?) to manipulate and try to influence the outcome.

Messalina
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06-19-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 3:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Messalina a private message Print Post    
Good point, Ecoop. I don't care for Survivor but Amazing Race is my favorite reality show.

I suppose TPTB on TAR tweak a situation here and there for better camera shots etc, but it doesn't appear they skew the ultimate outcome. They have no idea who the public is going to like/dislike. I believe the integrity of that show is unimpeachable. I suppose the same is true of Survivor but I don't watch it because I don't like Jeff Probst.

Sminger
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08-03-2007

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 4:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sminger a private message Print Post    
I have watched BB since season 1 and only 1 winner that I agreed with. I personally can't stand Dick and do not want to him to win any money. But if it wasn't for him who have provided any kind excitement. This group is boring. Dani hates everyone, Amber crying, Jameka with her partner God, Eric and his nervous twitch, Jess and that irritating voice, Zach with his boring self, Nick was an idiot, Dustin in a kings robe (gimme a break) and the list goes on and on and on.I enjoyed All Star BB except that Boogie won of course. BB needss to get something new and exciting. All these younger kids in the house whine too much. Let's do a 40 something version of interesting people.

Martinidreams
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08-19-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Martinidreams a private message Print Post    
I do think BB is manipulating the game but they do that every year. Look at their pet Janelle when they created a new "prize" for the America's Choice when she didn't win like they wanted. And I loved the fact that their steering the game in her direction didn't work. They do seem to be steering this year in Dick and Danielle's.

Beffylou
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04-21-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 4:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beffylou a private message Print Post    
What I find interesting .. is has anyone watched the UK BB? The people in the UK LOVE their show .. it is plain how much BB interfers and runs that show.

Nana
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07-24-2004

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nana a private message Print Post    
I will always watch BB... the only thing I notice this year...the HGs seem to be playing to the cameras maybe its because they are on Showtimeto they think they need to play silly games to entertain us....and I stay up every night to watch....

Cmist
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09-20-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 4:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cmist a private message Print Post    
I don't suppose I would mind so much if BB messed with the people to get them to do what they want sometimes I suppose that is the perogotive of the show. THe problem I have with the above is that A. the producers always swear that they don't favor one person over another. B I think there are rules to regulate game shows that pay money to the winners. C. If A and B don't apply then for heavens sake don't make these people suffer thru what is a very exhausting summer and not even have a chance to win and don't make us sit around thinking it's fair and everyone has an equal chance to win. We pay to watch and were being had as well as the players.

Melissamm68
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07-07-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 4:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Melissamm68 a private message Print Post    
I tried to like this season but found for me personally it was not enjoyable at all. Been watching since the beginning and this is the first year I haven't watched BB through to the end. I have been slowing becoming turned off to BB the last few seasons but this year there just wasn't anything to keep my attention or desire to continue to watch. Maybe it was because of the casting. Maybe it was because so much seems "scripted." Maybe it was just because I couldn't find a character to get behind and root for. Maybe it was because this was the first year I watched BBUK and BBAU and realized how much better and how much more enjoyable those series were compared to the US version this year. I just canceled my feeds this last week cause I couldn't take watching them anyway. Will still come here and enjoy the community though and will check things out next year and see if I can get addicted again.

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 4:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
Nope--sinking to a low for BB is having an All-stars show. The lowest of those lows is having one with Like Malin included. Both have been done, so that is as low as BB can get.

Govols
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07-19-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Govols a private message Print Post    
I agree~Boogie's actions were the lowest.

Flyincows
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07-17-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 4:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flyincows a private message Print Post    
It wouldn't surprise me if we next see WWF professional wrestlers in BB9, if there is a BB9.
I think that putting up with some of the antics that some have displayed this year has been a little over the top. (Like I said somewhere else, this is catering to the Howard Stern mentality)

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 4:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
i don't see how this has been different then any other seasons.

Jhezzie
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07-05-2001

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jhezzie a private message Print Post    
Yup. The All-Star show was the skeeviest, by far. This one is odd, though. There is ZERO physical chemistry between anyone. I don't think Jess has any interest whatsoever in Eric, as a date. No one seems to be having any actual fun. I personally don't really care who wins this year. I do, however, hope that Jameka, Amber, and Danielle get the boot, ASAP! Geez, they are annoying! I haven't purchased the live feeds in years, because of the heavy censoring, but I keep up just fine without. Oh well. It ain't summer without the hamsters.

Saguaro
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06-21-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 5:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saguaro a private message Print Post    
I don't think BB has sunk to a new low ... this is just the same old BB we've been watching for years. I was actually happy with both Maggie and Boogie winning, and not just because I didn't like Janelle. I believe the America's Player thing might make it a little easier, but not much has changed with BB.

Foolscap
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09-04-2004

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 5:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Foolscap a private message Print Post    
This is one of my favorite seasons so far. In most things I generally find the journey more interesting than the end. Past winners on BB (with the possible exception of Will Kirby) have to me been pretty boring players.

And the show is called Big Brother. I agree with those who have said the DR has always tried to influence the house guests. I think a big part of the game is trying to keep your head in such a controlled, limited and surreal environment, and the DR is just part of that. And as someone mentioned in another thread, they can try to mess with your head, but they can't make you do anything.

And I've never understood wanting the "good" people to win. The whole game is based to a great extent on observation, deception and keeping your head. A sense of humor doesn't hurt either.

Anyway, I particularily like this season and I've watched from the beginning for whatever that's worth.

Kirstenk
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07-14-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 5:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kirstenk a private message Print Post    
I truly believe they have. There are only a few times I have enjoyed this season and I feel like this cast over any before have really brought Big Brother to a new low.

I will watch till the end to see what happens but I will think twice about watching an future Big Brother shows.

Knowing how involved the Diary Room is on the outcome of everything, just doesn't seem the same to me.

There are a lot of things that have happened this season that makes me think this is all a set up and a normal playing person would never have a chance. It's Produced plain and simple.


Yup......I totally agree and will not get the feeds next year. Watching without the feeds I can kinda, sorta, well MAYBE believe it is reality. LMAO

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
I think BB can't sink to a new low because it's not exactly high brow to start with.

Come on, it's people locked in a house lying, scheming and farting.

Where I think it's gone wrong is that people feel that because the public has a small voice in the proceedings, the public should get exactly what it wants at all times, even if it can't make up its mind what it wants.

Personally, I'm more disappointed in the lack of discussion that has been happening here than in the lack of discussion in the house. People just seem to be interested in judging the minutest detail of the houseguests (are Dani's toes REALLY that awful??) and not in discussing anything in a reasoned manner.

I'm not superimpressed with the people in the house, but there are moments that I have enjoyed. There are also moments that I had to walk away because it was just too much of the same thing. But I've had that happen on all Big Brothers, so I'm not ready to declare this one dead.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 7:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Tobor waves at Onlyhuman.

Beruthiel
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08-07-2000

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beruthiel a private message Print Post    
BB - every year, the show I love to hate and the one which has me addicted, and it's been going downhill, according to us, since the beginning.
I treat it as catharsis, a chance to vent off my negativity about the state of the world, and life in general.
Keep it coming, otherwise I'd stew in my own juices until I became a prune, or maybe I already am one.