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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 7: What Would You Do?: Archive through August 24, 2007 users admin

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Scooty
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07-21-2007

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooty a private message Print Post    
I wonder if its the houseguests fault for not stepping in to stop Dicks inappropriate behaior but wonder what I would do if I were them. I cant believe that any of the HG have actually enjoyed witnessing his actions. I guess I would avoid him totally but then I guess I would be a prime target. The HG gave Dick all the power so I guess they all must suffer the consequences. I think if he gets to the final 2 he should be winner to get that far.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
I can honestly say....money or no...I would have DEFINITELY stepped in....but then again...I ALWAYS do that, and I HAVE gotten myself in "trouble" that way....LOL!

Oh well...it is how I was brought up....my "Christian Beliefs" as Jameka would say.....I was raised that by my ACTIONS I would be a good person, not by my "words"....

Celticlass
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09-10-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Celticlass a private message Print Post    
I think they need to do the group approach, safety in numbers. But they are all too afraid.

Scooty
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07-21-2007

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooty a private message Print Post    
I would have said that lets vote this ass out and we will start the game from scratch!!

Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
The other HG would not step in because they don't want Dick's wrath served to them.

They also think that Dick will be the most hated HG, and if they are up against him in the end, they will win.

Just goes to show you that when you intimidate, yell, bash and belittle, you can win money.

If you let someone else intimidate, yell, bash and belittle, you can win even more money.

It also helps when you have BB and AP on your side for ratings, you get to stay in the game no matter what ugly thing you do or say.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
Yep....pity!

Sincebb1
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08-22-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sincebb1 a private message Print Post    
Cay I am the same!!!LOL! I once saw a man kicking his dog as he was crossing the street. The dog cowered with fear on the ground closing it's eyes in anticipation of the next hit. I actually stopped the car in the middle of the street and ran over and kicked the guy in the shins and asked him how HE liked it??? I told him if I ever saw him again treating his dog that way I would call the police! (I knew where he lived)I really can't stand to see anyone ill treated. I often stand up for people at work that are being picked on etc.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
LOL! Sincebb1....Been there, done that! LMAO!!!!

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
In real life I would step in, in BB life I would mind my own damn business. I wouldn't be afraid that Dick would pull that on me because I wouldn't allow it, he would have gotten verbally as good as he sent. I've been know to castrate using the sharpness of my tongue..
Sometimes many of us forget this is a game, they are not there to protect or make friends with anyone. Their job is to win money, not life long buddies, and it would be poor game play to put yourself in the position of standing up against another player when there is no way physical violence is going to occur. There are 50 cameras and many staff there to make sure everyone is physically safe, it's not like they are in a back alley somewhere.

Scooty
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07-21-2007

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooty a private message Print Post    
I wonder if any of them showed some concern in the diary room. I would backdoor Dick and make sure I was HOH so I could stay away from him and make sure he was being voted out or else I would be screwed.

Ch3j0r
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07-21-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ch3j0r a private message Print Post    
I wouldn't have sat quietly. I would say "Come on Dick...lighten up, she's just a kid."

Bigd
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09-13-2001

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bigd a private message Print Post    
I would have intervened for myself mostly and my sanity. But even if that failed me, the reality of having to face my family and friends when I get out of that place and answer to them for not stepping in would be enough motivator for me.

Sure a case can be made that you are better off in the game to stay under or away from Dick's radar, but you should never forget you have a life to live outside that house when the game is over.

I have said since day 1 that any of the houseguests would be crazy not to want to be sitting next to Dick in the final, but now I consider that a really bad idea, I think these crazy houseguests that have be willing to put up with his behavior would be capable of doing something stupid like giving him the money.

Honestly, until a few weeks ago I thought Dick was really entertaining and capable of enlightening conversation. But he has me convinced now that all the good I saw in him was just an act and his acting out and outbursts are the real him.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
I would have said something to him. I can see why it's not the best thing in the game... especially when he had the support of the others when he was doing it to Jen and Kail. (Not only were they NOT saying anything to him about it, they were encouraging him.)

ETA: I didn't finish my thought there. I can see why it's not the best thing in the game but I don't think I could have stood by and let it happen for so long. If only because I would hate the tension it is constantly putting the house under.

That said, I can't agree that the others are afraid of him. I call BS on that. They are perfectly happy to let him go off because it takes the heat off of them and gives everyone else someone to hate passionately. At the end of the game, they can say, "Do you hate me because I played the game and got you out or do you hate Dick for being a vile to you 24/7?"

I've just seen no evidence that they are afraid of him... when he turns it on them, they stand up to him and talk back. That right there shows me it's less about being afraid to stand up to him than letting Dick do the dirty work for you.

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hobbs a private message Print Post    
I would have told BB in the DR. I don't care about your contract, I don't care about the money. If you don't do something about this, the next time he gets abusive, I'm out of here and nothing you say will stop me.

Sincebb1
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08-22-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sincebb1 a private message Print Post    
I don't think money or game is an excuse to treat some that way. Frankly if that is the best game move you can come up with......

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
Well I'm not sure I would have done that Sincebb1 only becuase you don't know how that person would react. They may have a knife or gun. I probably would have called the police since I would have had to weigh the consequences of my choice. Meaning, my son could be motherless and would I risk putting him in that situation. A child being beat up, I would like to think that I would do everything I could to make it stop.

Anyway, in the GAME, I would not step in if it would hurt my game play. If I was lucky enough to be in the house to try to win the 500K and change the future of my son, I would step back. Making decisions about HG's safety is BB's job - It would not be mine. I don't feel I would need to prove my morality or that I am a good person outside of the game.

That's where I think the issue gets confused. People want the houseguests to act in a situation that we the viewers would act on outside of the game. I for one think it is unfair to hold the houseguests to those expectations and if one does, they are always going to be disappointed

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
And everyone has their own definition of what abuse is. To me, if this was outside the game, I could go there with you - but inside the game, there is no abuse as far as name calling, trash talking, yelling at people etc

Sincebb1
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08-22-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sincebb1 a private message Print Post    
Well...I don't have any kids so no worries on leaving anyone motherless. And I am quite able to defend myself. I have dealt with guns and knives so nothing much scares me. And I don't distinguish whether the abused is animal or human. They rate the same in my book.

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
Raen, I agree, I don't see any signs of anybody being afraid of him. Heck, Jen still slept in the room with him alone when there were others beds she could go to. That speaks volumes to me.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
There is a gang mentality in the house and I can see why no one stood up for Jen in fear of Dick's wrath. Zach tried and already Dick was fighting. Then Zach immediately reverted to the "Jen is an idiot" mantra.

I cannot tell you what I would have done because I will be thrown out of the board... but you can well imagine what.

But seriously, even if I were to be in the house and somewhat under the influence of that "gang mentality" I would have tried to discuss with the others if anyone in the house would treat Daniele as bad as Dick treats Jen what would he do then? I would have tried to shake them out of their 'gang mentality' and make them see that there is an audience out there who will be up in arms about Dick's behaviour. So, I would maybe not directly confront Dick but I would try to sensitize the others about his obsession with Jen. Dustin also tried but you saw what happened to him.

Another thing I would do is go to the DR and demand BB do something or I would leave the game.
That could have been very effective because I would have made my reasons known loud and clear so that BB wouldn't hide it from the viewers.

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
Spunky, question? Why would you blackmail BB, if you don't like how the game is being played then why wouldn't you just walk off the show?

I hated WILL doing that last year and didn't like Jen doing it this year.

Ch3j0r
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07-21-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ch3j0r a private message Print Post    
I think saying it's "just a game" is so cliched. HGs don't want to take responsibility for their actions and use that phrase as a reason for an "anything goes" attitude. It's an unfortunate sign of our country's denigrated morals. We Americans, as a whole, seem to enjoy the "bad guy" as evidenced by Dick's apparent popularity.

Even using the phrase, "it's just a game," during athletic events seems like a false statement due to the amounts of money, job security, etc. that comes to teams that WIN.

The old phrase, "it doesn't matter if you win or lose, it's how you play the game," used to be said when encouraging good sportsmanship. We are surrounded by spoiled athletes who are anything but "good sports."

Oh well...I guess it's true..."Nice Guys DO Finish Last"...At least on Big Brother.

K...Off my soapbox.

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
I just hope they are left alone when they leave the house. There has been such intrusiveness towards some former houseguests, such as deciding who they should be with. Also attacks on the people they choose to be with, if they are not a fan of that person. People have gone so far as to mess with gfs/bfs internet votes for various things they are involved in.

We don't own the houseguests after the show, and while I love the ones that interact with their fans, I don't feel they owe me anything.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Once my reasons were made loud and clear, trust me BB would reconsider allowing that kind of cruelty again on the show.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
I wonder if anyone did complain to the diary room ? I would have asked him to remember how he would want to be treated or even better how he would want his daughter treated.
If the oportunity comes about to kick him to the curb, he better look out because it will happen.