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Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Dan, remember Dick had laid off her, and she is the one that went after him again. They had their truce, and he stuck by it until she destroyed his property and started yelling at him.

While I do not condone how he treated her, I think she could have done a lot to stop it early on. Not saying that it's her fault at all, but I do feel she was a participant in it, just as she set the tone for being so disliked in the house.

But the more I think about it, the more convinced I am that I hit the nail on the head, and this was all to get her name out there, make a BB splash, have all the boards talking about her, and articles about her that she otherwise wouldn't have gotten. Makes perfect sense...from something that made NO sense before to me.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Actually no Fiery, not at all...I'm please I figured out what this was all about and what set her off (something the HG still haven't figured out.). And since talking about BB is what we all do here, def don't feel like a chump. But given how much she bores me (in or out of the house) can't see spending much more time on it. But to me it puts the 'poor Jen' angle in a totally different light. A light I have just chosen to switch off from my view!!!

Geri
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07-08-2003

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 2:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Geri a private message Print Post    
Raen,I am sure that Dick knew they would be replaced. Cigarettes are not personal if you can get them within 5 minutes.

What was the time frame? BB sure seemed to have those replacements quickly. I wonder if he had smoked them all, if they would have gotten him more. I remember that Kent couldn't but then again, Kent wasn't a ratings driver. I know ED said he could go without them but I wonder if he would have had to.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
Lurk, what a fantastic post. Thanks so much!

Bicbicz911
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08-20-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 2:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bicbicz911 a private message Print Post    
Something else I find incredible ironic is that Dick seems to be the only player in the house that actually GETS IT. He's there to play the game, be the last man standing, so to speak. He is not there to make friends. Other players would benefit from that lesson. It makes the game more interesting when people aren't worried about maintaining lasting friendships.

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 2:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
Geri Jen was in the DR for almost an HOUR and they did not let her out until they had replaced the cigarettes and taken away the destroyed ones.

Dick didn't even know she had destroyed them until she got mad about him finding the cartons in the SR. He just thought she had hid them.

Lilviking
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07-19-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 2:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilviking a private message Print Post    
Omitting the fact that BB immediately replaced Dick's cigarettes was extremely misleading for those who weren't aware of it. It gave the impression that, with all his cheerfulness towards the events, Dick was handling the loss much better then he actually would have. It justified him taking Jen's belongings and made Jen look like she was simply being a poor sport when she started eating.

...Not to mention it completely avoided showing any favoritism on the part of Big Brother.

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Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 3:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
I think and have said repeatedly something that continues to be overlooked. Right after being backdoored, Jen requested and began reading the rule book, word for word. She made several comments while reading it and even at one point, it showed her saying "that's it" and it went to vortex. Immediately after that is when this chain of events began. Jen began packing her clothes/hiding them, covertly inquiring in sly ways as to where the cigs may be, then saying she had to clean the sink w/ bleach. Began cooking and then did her oh so cheerful dance destroying them. Dick had no clue they were even destroyed until AFTER they were returned. The entire time Jen was destroying these BB was telling her to stop over and over and calling her to DR. Then after destroying them, she comes out and resumes her cooking which she had already started and had said "she was hungry and cooking." So, I have not bought for once the fact she ate because she was mad about BB returning cigs. Jen was mad at being backdoored and she was having a temper tantrum.

Then you look at the actions AFTER the cig destroying/eating. Dick DID come out the door and lit up... he walked to the smoking area and he did blow the smoke in her face to smirk that his cigs were given back. At that point, Jen slammed her food down and stood over Dick. Dick had leaned back on the couch w/ his arm drapped over the back of the couch. She then began attempting to swat at the cig he was holding. If you look at this video closely, which at this point I am shocked the FBI haven't had to analyze frame by frame, Dick has his foot against her leg pushing her back. He then says "don't touch me" and "you are going to get burned." Now, at that time my inclinations are that he is telling her basically stop, you are getting burned.

Jen, then stops for a few seconds, stands up and begins her swatting attack again and at that point I do see that Dick has turned the cig around so that she will get burned swatting at it. Now, you can lay the blame wherever you want. Dick's actions in many ways towards Jen have been horrible. However, I can honestly say, if someone did talk to me in that manner, I would not continue to sleep in the same room with them on a daily basis. Jen chose to keep in that room w/ him when empty beds are open everywhere. Also, she had already started following him around as she had done on so many previous occassions when they had their arguements. Even after this entire episode that night, Jam is sitting on the couch and a couple spaces in between her and Dick and Jen comes right over to THAT smoking couch w/ Dick smoking and crosses in front of Jam to sit in between them. Why? If you hate smoke soooo much and you hate Dick sooo much... why?

Yes, there will be people who like who they like. Who take this situation and some how apply it to some personal experience in their lives at some time. However, if you watch the feeds from that entire day, even go read the live feed reports... Jen is clearly searching for a loophole or something in those rule books and thinks she has found it before Dani/Amber leave for their trip. That is when she started the seqence of events that happened on THAT day. Do I think she had had enough of Dick yelling... probably. However, I also think that getting Dick mad is/was part of Jen's strategy. She really wanted to push Dick to cross the line to get himself thrown out.

Damick6
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07-01-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Damick6 a private message Print Post    
"She really wanted to push Dick to cross the line to get himself thrown out"

That is all good game play. She truly GOT it, and tried to use IT to her advantage. BB sadly stepped in and made her impotent while giving Dick even more power over someone half his age, with a lot less life experience. cents

Mrsmel
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07-04-2007

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mrsmel a private message Print Post    
Great post Stop, you and I saw it exactly the same way! She was mad at being backdoored. Plain and simple.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 4:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
It was good game play on some aspects Dam.. it is the same game play that Dick is using himself to yell at people and make them hate him. Do I think some of it is just him... YES. However, when he really amps it up, as he did the week he and Dani were on the block, he is doing it for gameplay and Jen tried the same tatics, just like Dick did to Kail. It just didn't work on Dick though. Was he mad... yes, taking those cigs was the equivelent to taking a crack addicts last rock and them being on a deserted island. However, Jen could not get him to cross that final line in getting overtly physical.

Bbfaninwa
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07-26-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 4:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbfaninwa a private message Print Post    
Wow is it getting hot in here???

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
Jen Johnson: What had happened is right before that part that was shown, Dick was blowing smoke rings in my face, and I was like, "Stop blowing smoke in my face!" And he was like, "Well, what are you gonna do?" I was like, "I'll take your cigarette out of your hand." And then I went to grab his cigarette out of his hand. I was just trying to grab his cigarette out of his hand.

OMG that girl really is delusional. I sat here and watched the incident from start to finish and he wasn't blowing smoke rings nor did she say she would grab the cigarette out of his hand.

So she needs to make her mind did she get burned or not since on ET she said she did and in this interview she said she wasn't burned.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
Yeah, she's digging a hole now. He did blow a puff of smoke in her face however and she darn sure didn't announce her intentions. She had a blackish mark on her hand that a cig will leave ... she may have had a slight heat mark if anything as they both were moving their arms too fast for a true burn to happen.

Sassynegal
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01-21-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sassynegal a private message Print Post    
I agree Shop and have thought so since it happened, it was her attempt to save herself by getting him to cross the line.

They both were out of line, and I am bored with the excuses of everyone was against her all day and I guess that made it ok. Eric was in the same situation when he was on the block and did he behave that way?

Castleexplorer
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08-10-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 10:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Castleexplorer a private message Print Post    
The whole time I watched Jen, I thought that she thought that she would be going home. I think that she would have rather been sent home by BB, than to lose by the other hg voting her out. Her previous actions--the cry over the photo on the wall, taking down her mom's picture because she thought she looked ugly or whatever, really makes me think that she does not like to look bad. It would save face to her if they sent her home for bad behavior than to have been voted out by her peers. JMHO