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Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
Jen also has bullied HG's... when she was HOH she went around to all the POV players and said "if you use the Veto, I will put up your closest friend." Jen is not w/o her own flaws. Also, the actions you listed were enough to make me not like her and as I said earlier. Live w/ someone you don't like... then add the fact there is no outside stimulus. You really think you are going to sit and talk w/ someone you don't like in that situation? Every little thing they did would grate on your nerves so bad you would blow up on them after any period of time. If they breathed too loudly then you would feel like screaming at them. Then you add the "mob mentality" to this entire thing and it just compounds itself.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
Jen is not as bad as she is being portrayed.Some of the hg's are just downright EVIL,and mean spirited.

Sincebb1
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08-22-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sincebb1 a private message Print Post    
I am all for going back to the basics with BB. I don't like it when some of them know each other. Twins, brother and sister, father daughter, friends, lovers etc. I really like it when they all start out at zero. That is half the fun, them getting to know each other.

Fan3
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07-07-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fan3 a private message Print Post    
so we are going to have vortex until later tonight?

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Fan, they may be practicing for HOH, getting their seat assignments for the live show, etc.

Neosporen
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08-18-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neosporen a private message Print Post    
Mara you do not know that...you are not living , isolated, with her....you are not privy to EVERY single moment in the house with her...
Plus you were nto there the first week where you saw NONE of what happened...
Jen, to me, comes off as a nut case..her eye roll, the way she talks to people, the snide comments, Al that isolated and I am sure it would be amplified 1000% and literally drive the others batty....

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
Sometimes nastiness is overt (DICK), and sometimes nastiness is covert (JEN).

Michmal
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07-19-2007

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Michmal a private message Print Post    
I must apologize for my terrible typing/spelling..I had sinus surgery today and am drugged at the moment...hope you all understood what I typed

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
From Jokers. I could not help but laugh at that ! I hope it is not bad/poor board etiquette to post.


Thu 2:12 PM BBT while folding clothes, amber heard jess coming back to the room and, under her breath, said "little ," but then smiled sweetly to jess NT -

Debbieeeee
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09-16-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Debbieeeee a private message Print Post    
Lurk - You said it better than I ever could in your 2:35 PM post - I agree totally!

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Jen...this is my theory on why BB Jen has been so disliked, and I don't believe it has anything to do with the AP votes.

Group dynamics, especially in a small confined space for 24/7 is very different than dealing with someone you don't care for in the real world. Ok that is a given, esp in BB. But Jen went in there in what we think is some weird Chilltown strategy of being obnoxious (although I can't believe she could have faked it all lolol). She starts off wailing at her pic, wearing bikini's that barely cover her, clothing with all those Jenuflecting comments on everything from clothes, to underwear, to headbands, making comments about how she would never talk to the gardener or the maid, talking down to everyone and saying how the money means nothing to her (when, as Amber said in one of her best points--it is lifechanging for many of them). Then she does nothing to try to fit in better or treat people better. I don't recall her strategizing at any point or trying to fit in. She just seemed to have some deal w/Eric none of us saw made, and that was it.

Until Dick went after her, I don't think anyone could tolerate her, in or out of the house. It was only when folks viewed her as a victim that I feel perception of her changed. But to me that doesn't change who she was, how she acted and how she treated folks.

I honestly don't get her at all. I don't know where the fake Jen begins and ends, I don't understand what she is all about, but I know I don't like her. I wouldn't want to have to have a meal with her, let alone be locked in a house with her for months. And I'm willing to bet if Dick hadn't made her his personal punching bag, she would have very few if any fans.

I truly believe she has made her own bed, and now it's time for her to sleep in it.

Fluffybbw1
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07-12-2007

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fluffybbw1 a private message Print Post    
Michmal your typing is fine and I hope you get to feeling better!

Fluffybbw1
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07-12-2007

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fluffybbw1 a private message Print Post    
Maybe the show will seem better to you tonight with the help of your painkillers!

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
Sometimes nastiness is overt (DICK), and sometimes nastiness is covert (JEN).

Perfect observation!

Michmal feel better!!

Upstate
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02-11-2007

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Upstate a private message Print Post    
When Jen as hoh told pov players if they used it/pov she would nom their closest friend. well isn't that pretty much implied every time every year in the big brother house? So again instead of Jen being a sneak she put it all out there. that's why I like her. You see that is game play. Eric and Dick calling Jen all those names and Dick assaulting her is personal. imo

As far as Jen being mean to Dani. I think the emotional position of d and d was not right for the bb house. go to therapy for that level of disfunction.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
ITA, Lurk. Your post really some it all up for me! And maybe we should thank Dick for making her seem more loveable. LOL!!!!

Sincebb1
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08-22-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sincebb1 a private message Print Post    
Upstate 100% agree!

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
If Dustin had stayed, I wonder which way the game would've turned regarding Jen. She wanted to play the game with Dani--maybe Dani, Zach, and Jen would've aligned and we'd have a different game. Or maybe the HGs still would've tired of Jen and evicted her this week. Either would've been interesting possibilities--more interesting and very much less hateful and scathing as anything we've seen this past week.

If you love drama, keeping Dick was great. But if you enjoy gameplay, Dustin was the one to keep because this game is in the bag for the Donatos.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
Hi, I'm new here but I have lurked for quite some time.

To add to the Jen list, the original comment Jen made to Dick during a challenge, something about not having him touch her was another offense; add the POV and other stuff to it, I think it just didn't sit well with them. That alone didn't make the greatest of initial impressions when you just met someone.

Also, if any of you have the very 1st show that was aired this season of BB when the houseguests were introducing themselves to each other, you can go back and see how she came off as even just a 1st impression. She came across as a bit domineering and controlling, like she was running that group conversation and even rushing some others to conclude their speech and that was just the 1st day of getting to know everyone's name, occupation, and location.

Before the show had even gotten off to a start, the very 1st show, her posturing came across as rude and even put me off from her and I was just a viewer, not one that has to live with her. You only get one chance to make a 1st impression because that sets a tempo with people, but I'm not saying her behavior has warranted all the ill-treatment she has received.

Cillysue2
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05-02-2003

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cillysue2 a private message Print Post    
1000% agree Lurk! Right on!

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
When did Dick assault Jen?

And don't tell me the Tea incident

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
lol well aren't we the agreeable bunch...well within different viewpoints hehe. Thanks for the props, and thanks to others for saying it so well too!

As for Jen and her threat about friends, to me a critical factor of BB is timing, and that just seemed like a hard core gaming move to make that early in the game, when most folks are trying to fit in, not make enemies and not rock the boat. Combine that with the laundry list of things she did that many of her HG found annoying or negative, and I think it was way too intense a move to make at that point. And I guess I see a difference between being open and direct, and threatening half the house resulting in making enemies she didn't need to make at that time. JMHO.

And I think Jen was FURIOUS because she wanted to work with Dani, but not with Dick, and she just couldn't make that happen. I think the downfall in her game was not accepting the truce with Dick AND putting personal feelings aside to work with them, as they offered. I can understand why she didn't want to do it, but I think it was her best shot at going the farthest possible in this game. But she decided what she wanted and was not going to settle for anything else. And my guess is she is used to getting that in her real life (based purely on her own comments), and couldn't deal with it not going that way in the house.

Michmal...sure hope you are feeling MUCH better soon!!!!

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Good post, Ahnicka...and welcome.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
Angelic .. nnoooooooooooooooo! LOL

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I'm just glad that a big majority of posts supported Jen, I'm confident that the majority of people still prefer to see someone who refrains from responding with the same verbal abuse that the attacker uses. Good for Jen, and that's the way she wrote!