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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 7: Fair TV Coverage of the Dick/Jen Fight or Not?: Archive through August 23, 2007 users admin

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Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
So for those who watched every little bit of the "incident" - do you think that they told a "fair" version of it on the TV show tonight?

Hotfudge
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07-03-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hotfudge a private message Print Post    
I thought it was pretty acurate.

Jen hid her clothes
Jen destroyed Dicks cigs
Jen Cooked food
Dick yelled at Jen, jen shrugged.
Jen ate her food
Dick blew smoke in her direction
Jen smacked Dick
Jen got burned trying to take the smoke away
Jen cried she didn't do anything

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
I thought it was fair. I've seen it twice and it still amazes me that regardless of who started it, who went after who, the older person could have walked away. They both acted like 5 year olds.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Well, BB conveniently left out that she was told she could destroy the cigarettes in advance and that they were replaced immediately after, which was what upset her in the first place. I guess it would have showed favortism? JMO.

I was glad to see the smoke in the face incident from a different angle b/c it showed that he wanted to hurt her. Again, JMO.

Overall, BB still has not shown the home viewers the real Dick, but then again, how can they? They cannot use the c-word or p-word on national television . And I have yet to see the death threats as well.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
BB is a cheater and a liar!!!

They never aired the reasons why Jen broke the slop rule. She told the reasons to the others, BB lied to her. BB told her it was okay to destroy (not just hide) to destroy (after Mustargate) the cigs in the house.
When BB replaced the sigs for Dick, she started to eat and the whole fight erupted.

The fight was actually shown quite accurately and the viciousness from Dick quite visible and especially knowing that he's been doing that for so long it was expected that sooner or later Jen this would happen. So most viewers I'm sure were cheering for Jen (well, I was). I noticed again that she had to actually go over his leg to get out of the way. Then both of them standing up with Dick almost hitting her and her sudden reflex to avoid a beating, she must have been a bit scared and she looked very very vulnerable at that moment. This was a lost round for Dick, that's for sure.

But I hated most Eric and Jessica and Jameka for just sitting there and accusing Jen of cheating when they knew the reasons why since she told them. But it was BB editing that made it look like she had NO reasons whatsoever to start eating other than knowing she was going home.

BB IS A CHEAT AND A LIAR.

Blair
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07-28-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Blair a private message Print Post    
There was one threat that they televised. It was the incident in the storeroom. Can't remember what led up to it, but I think Jen was HOH and Amber and I think Jameka were present. Dick said something to the effect that he couldn't wait to get his hands around her neck and squeeze. Jen handled it with her typical nonchalance and I don't know if Dick was disciplined for it or not.

Hotfudge
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07-03-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hotfudge a private message Print Post    
If BB had told her that wouldn't they have told Jen to NOT talk about her DR sessions?

Why do you assume she is telling the truth?

Deeva
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07-26-2006

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Deeva a private message Print Post    
Hot...it really doesn't matter...BB let her get away with it once...one has to assume she wasn't making it up when she decided to escalate it the second time.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I thought it was fair and was not bothered by any of it, except for Eric's need to prove that he's the studio's puppet and all around classy guy.

Hotfudge
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07-03-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hotfudge a private message Print Post    
It doesn't matter because regardless if she got away with it before she still started the fight. It was her fault and the show aired it that way.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
sickened that Eric or Zach didnt step in to stop it when Dick stood up and appeared to be smacking her back

BB should have kicked him out for violence and I am a Dick fan....or was

the fight got worse after they cut feeds from what i saw on show........I am still shocked those 'men?' didnt step in to at least seperate them
shows how much of whimps they can act like

Kuzman
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07-17-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kuzman a private message Print Post    
What was missing was Dick's obscene language that went on all night long. Without the benefit of listening to that <el>, the tv only viewers probably don't think he is that bad.

Mrsmel
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07-04-2007

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mrsmel a private message Print Post    
She was cooking the turkey burgers BEFORE she destroyed the cigarettes. She planned to eat before she did what she did and they did what they did.

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
They showed none of the isolation and verbal abuse that Jen was subjected to and they didn't show the reason Jen did what she did at all. The TV viewers have no idea of the lengths that Dick went to and how vulgar he was. I thought it was totally unfair to Jen.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
I didn't see the feeds but saw some of the YouTubes. I'll be honest, if through the past few weeks, Dick had been saying horrible things about me in an aggressive manner, had poured tea on my head, and then blew smoke in my face, I might have smacked his hand to get the cigarette away, too.

While I watch, I don't have a vested interest in BB, I don't have a huge attachment to either of them, I don't really like either, I think both of them acted immaturely, and BB is not an obsession for me ... BUT ... I think Dick's cumulative abuse was what started it, not Jen smacking his hand away. Although she stood her ground, you could see in her eyes that she was afraid, and she flinched when he raised his hand at one point.

Deeva
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07-26-2006

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Deeva a private message Print Post    
Hot....was only referring to the DR comment.

I agree she started it that night.

I also don't hold it against her.

Mrsmel
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07-04-2007

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mrsmel a private message Print Post    
She was trying to get him kicked out. He showed more restraint than I thought he would. I was afraid for her. I think they replaced the cigarettes quickly because they were afraid too. They had to because Showtime was coming on and they had to have a live show.

Messalina
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06-19-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Messalina a private message Print Post    
I hope, once and for all, the canard being repeated on the Internet ad nauseaum will be quashed...that Jen followed him to his smoking spot and started the whole thing.

Dick lied about it yesterday and others have repeatedly refused to back down even when told over and over again that it didn't happen that way.

Tonight's film clearly shows that Jen was already outside seated on the couch when Dick approached her and blew smoke at her. He instigated that particular incident and I have it on my DVR to prove it. When people deliberately write the other version they are putting their credibility on the line.

Bb2007nyfan
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07-27-2007

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 8:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bb2007nyfan a private message Print Post    
Just a thought here... nobody ever confirmed that BB did tell her she could destroy cigarettes. AG stated that a house rule is not to destroy personal property though. Jen lied about Nick trying to kiss her, don't you think she could be lying about BB saying destroying the cigarettes too? It's her word against known rules of the game. Personally, I think she made that part up.

Llb
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08-22-2007

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 9:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llb a private message Print Post    
Yes, I thought it was fair.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 9:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
It is exactly what happened and he blew smoke towards her, but she shouldn't have been eating..They were both wrong.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 9:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
well nothing happened to her the first time she did it so I believe her

Bb2007nyfan
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07-27-2007

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 9:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bb2007nyfan a private message Print Post    
But the first time she did it, she never said she was told it was ok. Suddenly it comes up now?

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 9:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
I've seen it twice and it still amazes me that regardless of who started it, who went after who, the older person could have walked away. They both acted like 5 year olds.

ITA, Missy. I like how they showed Dick lighting a cigarette, her walking away from it (which she did many times before), and him referencing it as "Jen repellant" before they showed the fight.

It's no secret that smoking is a major pet peeve for Jen and that Dick was using it as a means to annoy her and/or get her to go away. I also liked that they showed Jen sitting outside first and that he went to sit near her, not the other way around. They definitely showed Dick, the instigator, as Zach pointed out, IMO.

I do wish Jen would have just hid his cigarettes and stayed on slop, but at the same time, I understand. BB did not show Jen offering the turkey burgers to Eric, Jess, and Zach before she ate them herself. She did cook many times before for the rest of the house while she was on slop. Needless to say, Jen knew her game was over the minute she was put on the block next to Jameka. IMHO, that was probably one of the worst evictions I have ever seen on BB. [I do wish BB would prohibit backdooring so it's fair across the board.]

Oh another thing I really liked was Eric saying they were happy to see her leave as she was walking out the door as if that was good sportsmanship...LOL. For Eric and Dick both to question Jen's integrity when it comes to the game is laughable when Dick uses verbal abuse of women half his age and Eric slanders other houseguests as a means to get ahead in the game and/or get their way. They are no better. JMO.

Kittyab
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07-16-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 9:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
He sat down in the area he always smoked in and light up. I think she was irriated by the fact he got his smokes back period.