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Webchiq
Member
07-11-2005
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 5:56 pm
But smoking is becoming more and more illegal. We didn't even have to work very hard in WA to get it banned within 25 feet of doors, we're working on the next phases.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 5:58 pm
so web, after you do that are you going to start on alcohol?
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Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:00 pm
biloxi, mine die. ROFL!
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:01 pm
Actually I was surprised CBS didn't ban smoking in the house... being BB, it could have made it harder for them. Thank goodness up here the only place you can smoke is around the corner of a back alley. (Hey, go look around the schools, where the kids go... and that's just not cigs..) It's a no, no, to smoke in a public place. T'was about time! There are court cases where condo owners are suing smokers in their same building, and they're winning!
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Webchiq
Member
07-11-2005
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:01 pm
I do a lot with MADD and other alcohol related causes. Don't have to finish one to work with the other. The thing about alcohol and smoking is that I support the right to imbibe 100% on both. I just support my right to not be affected by other's smoke. I choose not to smoke and the only way to prevent it being in my airspace is to get it fully banned in all outdoor and business locations, that would include all car windows being rolled up. I choose to drink alcohol, but I don't drive drunk and I don't drink irresponsibly. My drinking of alcohol will never, ever affect you or your loved ones. So, we have to educate on the responsible use of alcohol and have stiff penalties for violations.
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Webchiq
Member
07-11-2005
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:03 pm
We were renting a place and the management company had to pay for our entire move because they guaranteed us that we would not have to smoke and then when we issued our complaint about the place below us smoking outside our steps, the management company's attorney recommended that they pay for all of our moving expenses and give us our full refund back.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:04 pm
Jen sure did make Dick MADD last night... (jes trying to stay on track here... )
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Webchiq
Member
07-11-2005
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:04 pm
LOL but Dick didn't do anything illegal ;-).
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:07 pm
Dick's ice tea was physical abuse, he should have been given one then. It didn't happen. Physical abuse?? Can I please have the defintion?? Don't you have to touch somebody for it to be PHYSICAL abuse?? I mean maybe I'm wrong...I thought I had the defintion right. So the ice touched her...maybe we should bring the ice up on domestic violence charges...
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:08 pm
It wouldn't take much to make Dick mad!!! Wonder why his wife disappeared...
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Kiersten_love
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:23 pm
Umm, why didn't that letter also include the verbal abuse caused by several of the houseguests, mainly OUR America's Player Eric claiming incest between father and daughter. That went on for days, why is it that part was left out, shouldn't that have been part of the abuse as well? If you are going to write a letter at least write it from all sides, not just a one sided letter, its so not fair.
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Bicbicz911
Member
08-20-2005
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:32 pm
CBS probably gets quite a few ranting letters from overwrought fans about this or that disservice. Feedback, good and bad, bolsters the producers confidence that they are doing something right to cause such an uproar. Every year there are indignant letters threatening to never watch again, cancel the feeds, etc. People still watch. It's the same mentality as driving 2 mph down the freeway for miles because there is an accident way ahead. Everybody has to slow down to look at the wreckage. Here here to the wreckage. I am slowing down to watch.
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Meme9
Member
07-30-2001
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:35 pm
Thanks Pixie, great post. I have quit watching the show. I'll cancel the feeds Friday after Jen is gone. Abuse is abuse. I'm sad, I feel as if BB stole my favorite game and threw it in the gutter, each year it gets a little more nasty. After season 6 with Howie I figured there was no returning to the game. ED is just the new Howie. As ED said himself he is an a**hole, I believe it.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:43 pm
I feel the same way, Meme.
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:53 pm
Just reading through this....and I'm with ya Zachsmom! One thing I want to mention....lots of people that are disturbed by Dick's actions were up really really late last night watching the feeds and in the discussion threads. I think this season is really good and I'm having a great time watching it. Do I condone talking to people the way Dick has....no, but I also don't think people should intentionally provoke someone and then be upset when they yell.
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Christiii
Member
07-07-2005
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:01 pm
I think the point is that grown ups are supposed to control their behavior, even when "provoked". Provoked seems like such a lame excuse to me, geez. If Im in a movie theater, and some guy behind me kicks my chair, do I turn around ad scream at him because he "provoked" me?? nooooooo, Im all grown up now and can choose to NOT react or make a big deal about it. its like when i watch judge judy or something, and these people feel justified in their illegal behavior because someone 'disrespected" them! Its just so odd ad funny to me! I guess being the bigger person doesnt seem like an option to the people in this house
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Pixieduster
Member
09-27-2004
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:05 pm
Kiersten - I wrote the letter based on my own feelings and observations. I talked about abuse, hate mongering, etc. and I did cite references to Dick. But that wasn't to say he's been the only one to act in such a way. I also pointed out my frustration at the casting for the show. I happen to love Survivor and the Amazing Race and think their shows have fairly consistently cast interesting people, folks truly interested in the "game" or "race" - a broader cross section of people and personalities rather than the Hollywood, Les Deux, LA wannabe's and those who seek the spotlight as the most obnoxious, outrageous character on a show. I think the casting for Big Brother stinks, quite frankly. And, I also think a better job could have been done by AG and the producers to produce a show this year that didn't sink to the sad level I find it to be at now.
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:08 pm
As I tell my employees at work....don't poke a stick at the bear...you KNOW what will happen!
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Kiersten_love
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:32 pm
Well Pixie, I would only write a letter stating all the facts and point it out where all abuses come from, just not one source. Oh, and Pixie I am only saying what I would have done. On a different sort of note, I watch whether or not I care for the people or not, if I didn't like it for the content I would change the channel and not watch it at all. I enjoy BB and all reality shows, and no I don't like everything that is being said or done, but heck, I will still watch the hampsters on tv I rather enjoy it most of the times, but most of all I love to read what ALL of you have to say whether I agree with you or not, I still have the most fun reading what you all wrote. 
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Drifter83204
Member
02-22-2005
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 8:08 pm
Ditto to what Kiersten_love posted at 7:32
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Pixieduster
Member
09-27-2004
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 9:23 am
If you feel inclined to express your opinion in ways that may make a difference, here's another venue for doing so. Several folks posted this link to Jokers about what others are doing. http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Board=BBDiscussion&Number=6724643
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Toolhound
Member
06-22-2007
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 10:09 am
What a world we live in. I do not smoke but I can not see how we can tell people that do smoke not to smoke outside. Is there no end to the stupid laws. Pretty soon us red meat eaters will not be allowed to cook it outside because the vegans don't like the smell.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 10:12 am
BBQs banned in Texas...lol
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Mssas
Member
08-04-2006
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 10:12 am
And Dick thinks America loves him. pulezzzzzzzzzzze
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 10:15 am
I think they do Mssas...Franny hiding
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 10:16 am
Smoking outside was not the issue at all. Dick deliberately blowing smoke in Jen's face was the issue.
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Bombaycat
Member
07-21-2007
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 10:18 am
Sadly Mssas they do. America gets the PG version of ED.
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Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 10:19 am
personally, i think smokers should have their heads in a bubble so they can smoke all they want and inhale their own 2nd hand smoke.. let it seep into their skin.. then they could go anywhere they wanted and not bother the rest of us... and yes i'm a reformed 3 pack a day smoker who quit cold turkey 10 yrs ago..
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 11:15 am
Great post Pixie~ I posted this in another thread...Personally, I'm sick of BB's manipulations and won't be watching next season. Shame on me for wanting to see this thru to the end...I just can never "quit" not in the middle of a book I don't like, not in the middle of a movie, etc. But I CAN resolve to never watch BB again.
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Rubyroo77
Member
08-13-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 11:23 am
I honestly don't know anyone who likes ED out of my friends and family..and they don't see the live feeds- I showed my husband a youtube of dick verbally raping jen and he couldn't believe that they would allow something like that to go on. Thanks Pixie for the link..glad to see so many people apalled by this.
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Martinidreams
Member
08-19-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 12:16 pm
This year is no different than season 6 with Howie and Janelle pulling a "Dick" on April and the others. The televised aspect anyway, no one is forced to watch or be subjected to the live feeds. That's a bonus in my opinion.
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