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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 6: Dani and DIck - Unfair advantage: Archive through August 09, 2007 users admin

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Lardbrick
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01-16-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 5:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lardbrick a private message Print Post    
I believe that having the father/daughter combo in the house is an unfair advantage. Together they are able to double team votes, etc., and influence the other HG.
The two other couples have already been disbanded with one of the pair going home. But they wouldn't have had the same bond as a father/daughter combination. They hated each other and conspired to get the other out.
Dick and Dani are working together so they have double power. Although Dani is HOH this week, Dick is calling all the shots.
BB needs to do the "unexpected" and do something to break this up.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 5:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
It also puts a larger than normal target on their back even before Dick's outlandish behavior.
So, it's as much a hindrance as an advantage.

Lardbrick
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01-16-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 5:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lardbrick a private message Print Post    
If the other houseguests wake up and get a clue!!

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 5:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
I agree with Darclyte. There was no more advantage with them than there was with the other two pairs.

The child/parent bond is strong, but it could also have gone the other way with Dani working against Dick to get him out.

Agirlcalledbob
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08-12-2005

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 6:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Agirlcalledbob a private message Print Post    
I think the only advantage would be that you can actually (hopefully) trust the other one completely.

But with that comes a bigger target... so not really much of an advantage at all.

Streetsmart
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08-06-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 6:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Streetsmart a private message Print Post    
Its true that its unfair. In a house where you can only trust so many people so much having your DAD in the house is a slam dunk 100% your safe pick.

Gimmie a break

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 6:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
What bothers me about this situation is that these two people were close enough two years ago to apply together to be on BB. They knew each another would be there before going in the house, and there is no stronger bond in the house no matter how much any of the others claim to love one another.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 6:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
I agree Streetsmart!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
They have no more advantage than Joe & Dustin or Carol & Jessica had. They just didn't work to get each other out. Joe was absolutely vindictive towards Dustin (something that I'm now thinking may have been justified) and Joe was the one who said "let's band together and get those three out first." Jessica and Carol had a petty dispute over five dollars when they were in their early teens. They easily could've put that aside and worked together. Neither of those two pairs did, and the half of each pair that walked thru the front door were the first two evicted.

Remember, too, that Dick and Danielle, as the sole remaining couple, have a giant target on their backs. It was obvious that Daniele was less than pleased that her dad was in the house, but they didn't take the antagonistic approach the others did.

There is NO PROOF that D/D knew that the other would be in the house. Not until the twist was revealed. They had applied to the twin twist season when they were still talking. It's been two years.
There is no guarantee that D/D will vote together as a bloc. Daniele is definitely thinking on her own and doesn't do what daddy says.

Also, I think she's at a bit of a disadvantage. If you were 20 years old, would you want to be in a house like this, playing a cutthroat game, with your FATHER in the house?

And finally... for pete's sake. It's a game. The only person who had an unfair advantage was Eric, as America's Player. He was the one receiving information on what America was thinking. Yet he didn't play his cards correctly and was outed as a liar by the banner.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 7:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Dani has a much bigger target on her because Dick is in the house. Sure, he has her back, but at least five other people are out to get her just because he's there. There's not a lot one person can do against those odds.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 7:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
The smaller the group, the bigger the advantage two people are.

Hopefully Dustin and Eric will realize this, keep their numbers together and make sure Dick goes next week, then Dani the week after.

That would only leave Jen outside the LNC5, who may likely have worked out her own smaller alliance by then.

(I am beginning to think Jen is going to win this all)

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I think it's an unfair advantage to the others, but should also serve as a HUGE wake-up call to them. D&D are going to be each others final 2, no doubt, so why even continue to play with them at all unless you are happy with coming in third at best?

I actually think that Daniele is much less of a target because her dad will raise holy hell if she is nommed--no way anyone would nom her before him. The other HGs should band together ASAP to get Dick booted, priority one, and now. Then they can scatter and reform alliances when he is gone.

Auntfer
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08-24-2005

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntfer a private message Print Post    
Unfair advantage? No, not when they could have voted Dick out week 2. The whole house voted to keep him.
Maybe they will vote him out next week.

Bubba
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07-29-2005

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 7:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bubba a private message Print Post    
The game is controlled by BB, Amber said they were trying to influence her to vote for Eric. That ruins the game for me, because it makes it a TV show not a game.

Flyincows
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07-17-2005

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 7:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flyincows a private message Print Post    
I'm afraid it's a slam dunk for D/D and it really is not fair to the other HG's.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
And another thing--I would not want Dick in sequester--no way, not with his relentless "my way or the highway" tactics. He needs to go before he can be on the jury. And if both he and Daniele are in sequester, they could be voting block there as well.

Do this HGs have no instincts or what? Maybe they have never met someone like Dick and don't know how to handle him. I have no problem with Danielle--I think she'd be a fine HG without him.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
If I were in the house, I'd keep Dick to the end because I'd want him sitting next to me in the final two.

Flyincows
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07-17-2005

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flyincows a private message Print Post    
NYheat, Dick has (unfortunately) already made it to the jury!

Doublethink
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08-23-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Doublethink a private message Print Post    
It is an unfair advantage. What happened when Jen called Daniele a cheat for her actions with Nick. Dick poured tea on her, and all the other HGs (and posters) applauded because "of course, that's his daughter, he is going to defend her." There are a multitude of other examples. None of the HGs are able to use game tactics to try and split the two of them up because a parent/child relationship is viewed as sacrosanct even within the confines of this game. The HG that tries to break that tie is crossing the line.

And yes, they could have voted Dick out in Week 2, but Dustin wanted Joe, his nemesis, out of the way, and Dustin ended up winning that battle.

Amac
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09-07-2001

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Amac a private message Print Post    
Remember that Dick and Dani were estranged before entering the house. They could just as well have continued that estrangement inside the house. The other two pairs were broken up; Dick and Dani chose to pair up at least for the duration of the game. I'm hardly a fan of either of them but in this case, more power to them. They didn't plan it this way but when the game handed them a lemon they made lemonade.

Inkydinkydoo
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07-25-2005

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Inkydinkydoo a private message Print Post    
I'm afraid Dick would disagree with those of you who think it's not an unfair advantage . . . and did on Showtoo the other night. I forget who he was speaking to, but he talked specifically about the "unfair advantage" he and Dani had over the other two pairs. Blood is thicker than water. Joe & Dustin and Carol & Jessica never have to see each other again (per Dick), but he and Dani are linked for life.

I would agree with Dick. That's a huge unfair advantage (his words).

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Exactly because of this advantage that they are the biggest targets now.... which makes it their disadvantage... We could never win this argument.

Kellee
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07-07-2004

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellee a private message Print Post    
I think there is an advantage because although the others had a connection they did not know each other as deeply as a parental/child relationship. Danielle and dick have every reason to work together. Danielle was raised by dick's mother, they share their feelings for her and for Dick's son. Really i do not see how it could have gone any other way.

I think they do need to get one out to see the values of the other shine through.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
They are both at least on the jury. I would send Dani to the jury as soon as possible & keep Dick to the end if I was trying to win the whole thing. Dick on the jury would cause too much damage if in fact, his precious spoiled daughter happened to luck into final 2. Folks are plain scared of him & will do his bidding.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Good point, Merry--Dick would be great to go against in the finals--I just couldn't imagine getting there with him!

Thanks FlyinCows--Dick already on the jury, oh my. The HGs had to get their game on early this year. <77>