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Cinder
Member
09-01-2000
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 7:50 am
He started his task at 3am. It looked to be daytime when he failed it- but I am not sure. I wish there was an "official" list by CBS of what he has accomplished and not. Why is it so ambiguous?
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Delilah
Member
07-08-2005
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 8:15 am
I just wish Eric would use the America's Player opportunities to get some gain out of it. We are giving him information that he can use, whether he likes the information or not. For example, he knows he will be casting a Dustin vote this week -- why not go to Dick and try to leverage some safety for him and Jessica for the next few weeks in exhcange for a vote to keep Dick. That way, the votes won't be "hinky" and he will accomplish his America's Player mission this week. He'll be casting the vote anyway, so why not try to get something out of it? Just seems like he is not really trying to take advanatage of the edge he has with the AP info.
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Swannanoa
Member
07-09-2007
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 8:28 am
I have a problem with all this "try to get evicted". There's a HUGE difference in "trying" and "getting". If those AP questions said "Who should Eric get evicted this week" then it wouldn't be a disparity, but it says "try" and whether people get it or not, Eric "tried", ergo he should be awarded a "succeed" on those questions. The questions weren't "Who should Eric get evicted" but "Who should Eric TRY to get evicted". That one word makes the question an entirely different matter. That's why I can't understand why everyone who votes the way they do sometimes is so aggravated with Eric. Also I thought it was pretty sad that people voted for Eric give Jessica the "silent treatment". Whether it was intended or not (and I don't for a minute believe people were trying to make Jess think for herself), it hurt Jess and that really bothered me.
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Lucymac
Member
07-06-2005
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 8:39 am
I don't think Eric has an edge with the info that he is being given by the votes. Why would he listen to the votes, since the votes are to help Dick's game and not Eric's. Kail was no threat to Eric but she was a threat to Dick, so the voters wanted her out. Nick was a threat to Eric and has admitted he would have put Eric on the block. But because he would have helped Dick, people are mad that Eric didn't sacrifice his own game and get Nick out and in turn help Dick. Dustin was the person that saved Eric last week and the voters say to get him out. For Eric's game that makes no sense. Dick is an immediate threat and Dustin isn't a threat at this point, even if he will be down the road. Why should he "listen" to this when clearly it isn't helping his game. I can understand people trying to use his vote to benefit their favorite, but I can't understand trying to rationalize it that it is helping Eric.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 9:24 am
The votes should be an indicator of who AMERICA likes. Since Dick and Daniele have never been targeted, he should be paying attention. He listened, and liked it, when Jen was a target. Now that a member of his alliance is a target, he's not really paying attention. If he sat down, and thought about the "who should he get nominated" votes, he might actually start to realize something. America actually likes Dick and Daniele. America doesn't like Dustin. Hmmm... Kail was voted out because America didn't have a vote. Had we been able to vote, Eric would've likely been gone. And remember, Eric is playing MY game. I am not playing HIS game. He is representing ME!!! I don't care if Dick is an immediate threat to Eric. I think Eric is a threat to Dick, and I want Dustin, then Eric, gone./ And really, waht is "America's Player"? I don't think we were told that we were supposed to help Eric win. We were told that Eric was representing us in the house, and was to do our bidding. So why would I want to advance his game? I'll vote strategically, sometimes emotionally, in order to advance the people *I* want to see make it to the finale. Simple as that.
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Lucymac
Member
07-06-2005
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 9:43 am
Who "America" likes doesn't necessarily help Eric's game though. Costa you are admitting that your votes are for what you want and that is understandable. You're being honest about how you are voting and that you want Eric out. What I don't get is claims that Eric would be getting farther if he listened to these votes because we see things he doesn't. I'm just not buying that the votes are giving him tips for how he should be playing the game to make it farther. Just because America likes certain players doesn't mean that is going to help him knowing that.
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Cousin_jake
Member
07-04-2002
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:06 am
Well, if he'd paid closer attention to America's voting tendancies, he might have used that info to guide him as to who to allign with? If he had done that he might have escaped all the drama of the last few weeks re the "hinky" votes. If Dani wins HOH Thursday, he is in jeopardy and he knows it. If Dustin stays, Dustin, Amber and Eric will be playing for HOH against Dani, Zach and Jen. I don't think Eric really wants to win because he probably knows that America gets one of the nominations (we think) and that will really screw him over based on America's voting pattern the last few weeks. So, it will be Dustin and Amber against Zach, Jen and Dani - not bad odds.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:21 am
Lucy, you don't understand. Why should my votes help Eric's game? Eric is supposed to be helping MY game. Eric is playing for ME. I am NOT playing for him. Eric WOULD be getting further if he paid attention. We are sending him a message by our votes. And that message is that Dick and Daniele are not our targets. He's been targeting Dick and Daniele, yet neither of the two have ever been a target of America's votes. Had he been paying attention, he might've realized that America wants D/D in the house, and he could've aligned with them. Instead, he chose to align with J/J/A/D, one of whom will be exiting the house tomorrow. He can't see what the polls are saying, but three of the members of his alliance are not anywhere near America's favorites. And I do truly believe Eric will not try for HOH. If America votes for him to nominate Jessica, how is he going to explain that? That he's putting her up as a pawn? If he puts up, say Dick and Jessica, and Dick wins POV, then what? Put up Daniele and Jessica walks out the door? How is he going to explain that to his "alliance" in the house?
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Swannanoa
Member
07-09-2007
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:23 am
Obviously, costacat, Eric is very thickheaded then since he doesn't realize exactly what YOU want or anyONE else that votes the way the majority of America has voted lately. But then Julie said it was an "alliance of millions". I concluded that to mean I was working WITH Eric not making Eric work for me. But that's how I see it. I don't vote emotionally because I want to HAVE a vote in the final two so I don't want Eric gone. This is how I see America's Player. It differs from your perception and the perception of tons of people, but that's fine. I still keep voting strategically and leave my emotions at the front door. In the last vote, I voted for Dustin to be evicted. But try as I like, I still can't see how he flubbed anything when all he was supposed to do was TRY to get someone evicted. ETA: And why would the majority of America want him to put up Jessica if he won HOH? That's just playing AT Eric instead of playing for yourself. I want to see Dick gone and Dustin gone, but I'd prefer Dick stay over Dustin. Then I want Jam, Amber, Jen and Zach gone. But I can't see slamming Jessica with Eric like that.
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Lucymac
Member
07-06-2005
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:29 am
Actually Costa you don't understand. I get that you aren't playing for him. I'm not saying your votes should help him. But others on here are saying he should be learning from them and it would farther him in the game. I don't care if America likes Dick and Daniele. I don't believe they would ever have aligned with Eric no matter what Eric tried.
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Wavelength
Member
07-25-2007
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:30 am
Tons of people are enjoying seeing him squirm and feel uncomfortable because they think he was a poor choice. It just seems immature to me. It isn't helped of course by the asinine activities that production comes up with. They should have just asked us which houseguest do we want to embarrass and make a fool of. It makes all of us look like imbiciles. Maybe they should have asked us which houseguest do we want to see as AP. Just my opinion.
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Cousin_jake
Member
07-04-2002
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:40 am
Well, let's face it. Eric hasn't done much to endear himself to many of us. Have you heard some of the things he says on the feeds? (I equally comdemn Dick's comments) Eric's been pretty vile as well and has received a great edit so far. Whatever, I guess. I expect the same level of booing during the introduction of some of the jury at the finale this year as we had for the Nerd Herd at the season 6 finale. I wonder if they will be surprised? Maybe not.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:47 am
"Why should my votes help Eric's game? Eric is supposed to be helping MY game. Eric is playing for ME. I am NOT playing for him." Simple. It's called being a team player.
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Wavelength
Member
07-25-2007
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:49 am
Well, you certainly have a point about his behavior but I really thought we would be playing the game through him and therefore trying to help him. I just have to give up that thought. 
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:50 am
Simple. It's called being a team player. But America is Eric's team...
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Wavelength
Member
07-25-2007
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:52 am
Exactly Sanfran! Why would we want to play a ridiculous game. We wouldn't do that if we were in there. Would any of us decide to squirt mustard on someone's sheets or deliberately go against the vote we told people we would give? And now we have the Dick show all over again. Can anyone even imagine how cocky and obnoxious he will be now?? It boggles the mind. My hubby who has been patiently watching with me cuz he's nice said he is outta here if Dick stays. Sad.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:53 am
If Eric knows he is in an alliance with millions then why does he have a problem with what the majority tells him to do? I think it might be finally donning on him. Plus if and when somebody puts him up, don't ya think the dr will do whatever they can to save their twist? I do. If Eric gets hoh, I will not vote for him to nominate Jess, that's just too mean, plus I still like her and wouldn't mind a Jess/Eric, Dani/Jen final 4.
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Wavelength
Member
07-25-2007
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:58 am
Denecce,you won't vote for him to nominate Jess but the majority will because they want him to look like an idiot and therfore our game play looks ridiculous. That's the problem as I see it. Production wants Dick or Danielle to win and it's completely obvious. I agree with the person who said just give them the money now and we can all get our summer back.
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Carmil
Member
07-17-2005
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:59 am
This isn't a team sport. Eric is supposed to be America's Player, we're not supposed to vote on just what will make Eric's game easier. As AP, Eric is privy to outside info that no other player has, it's been his decision to go against majority rule. That's not what America's Player is supposed to be doing. He's supposed to be leading the house in the direction that the viewers votes take him.
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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 11:02 am
For me, since he can get voted out, he has to play so that he stays in the game. He wants that to make more money, and BB is thinking we want that so we can keep having some sort of say as to what goes on. If he's gone, we are done too. So it ends up being about the long haul, and maybe giving up a task is worth getting ot stay longer. There was nothing in the rules that said head to complete every task or how hard he had to try. Our choices in part help decide how likely he is in succeeding.
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 11:09 am
If we were REALLY in the BB house, we'd do what Eric's doing, but for us as VIEWERS, it makes much better tv to have Dick stay in the house. America votes on what they want to WATCH, not on what they'd actually DO if they were in the same situation...
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 11:10 am
"This isn't a team sport. Eric is supposed to be America's Player, we're not supposed to vote on just what will make Eric's game easier." If Big Brother was baseball and the AP was Barry Bonds, the voters would have voted for him to strike out last week instead of breaking the home run record. Undermining Eric's game is not playing in the AP alliance in the spirit that was intended. That's just sabotaging it for selfish reasons, IMHO.
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Flamingo
Member
08-19-2003
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 11:13 am
using a steroid-filled cheating baseball player probabaly isn't the best analogy if you are in support of Eric, LOL.
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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 11:17 am
That would be ALLEGED steriod-filled cheating baseball player.
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Yoda
Member
08-11-2005
| Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 11:23 am
ITA Sanfran...seeing Jess so upset because 'America' decided Eric should give her the cold shoulder was too much. Go Eric!!
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