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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 6: CBS' DEPICTION OF AMBER TONIGHT - MEAN OR NOT MEAN???: Archive through August 20, 2007 users admin

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Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
I just read the show recap, and I agree, Tobor; however, I didn't find it humorous - then again, I didn't have the laughtrack. As a middle-aged woman who abused alcohol/drugs for 20+ years, I have what I call "episodes" that are similar to what it sounds like was going on with Amber. I know what word I want, and what it means, but it won't come out. It's very frustrating. Maybe (I can't believe I'm excusing this woman, but here goes) some of her "lapses" are a result of her drug use.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
Amber is clearly not smart.

That is the least of her problems though. Her ignorance is so overwhelming that she has painted herself into a box of being a horrible person.

Jhezzie
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07-05-2001

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jhezzie a private message Print Post    
That's not what was happening to Amber, though. She wasn't searching for the 'right word' or a tip-of-the-tongue spell. She was asking, straight out, what simple words meant.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
I give her credit for not being afraid to show her ignorance by asking what the word means.

If I ever use a word and someone asks me what it means, I just tell them. Some cruel people decide to say, "What? You don't know what that means?"

Now if I use a word and someone says I didn't use it correctly... I go out of my way to show them that I did. It happened just the other day in fact... Google makes it so easy to quickly make a point.

Nycsoho
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08-11-2007

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nycsoho a private message Print Post    
Anything that comes out of one's mouth is ammunition for everyone to use against you. Anyone going into BB should know that; not just Amber but Dick, Eric, Jameka and Dustin as well.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I also give her credit for asking. At least she is trying and not just pretending...

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
At first I thought she was putting people on by asking. I have seen that in my life. Some people ask what a big word means just to give you shit about using it.

After the 3rd or 4th edit I got the fact that she really didn't know! That was when I reacted.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Another point about asking... usually you can figure out what a word means by the context. You have to think about it a little bit, but you usually can figure it out.

She asks very quickly. Like she isn't going to think about it.

Theowl
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09-28-2000

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Theowl a private message Print Post    
What does "depiction" mean?

Momination
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07-11-2006

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 9:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Momination a private message Print Post    
As far as Amber's daughter is concerned...I also have a 10 yr. old daughter & she would think it was hilariously funny to see me shown as Amber was tonight. She would tell all her friends - "See, I told ya'".

Rubyroo77
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08-13-2005

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 9:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rubyroo77 a private message Print Post    
I commend Amber for asking- you can't learn if you don't ask.

I have a friend who worked with a bunch of snobby bigwigs..and when they would have social gatherings he would always prepare himself with a word that he made up- it was a "big" word..and he would use it in different sentences with different people- and nobody would ask him what the word meant..they just smiled and would agree. Amber would have had the humility to ask..and I am sure he would have told her!

What555456
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06-14-2005

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 9:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Sounds like BB has learned something from Dick -- how to be a mean friend.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 9:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
BB is doing what BB does. They also made a lot of fun of Dustin and his robe and his uppity attitude. They play the organ music when Jameka prays. This is just another example of how they run things. At least its accurate. Amber is not very smart. Most of us have seen that since day 2 or 3. Now everyone has seen it.

Uncle_ricky
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07-02-2007

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Uncle_ricky a private message Print Post    
Each of them had to have undergone pre-show psychological testing and counseling.

Among the dozens of questions HGs are likely asked to answer, one of them has to be along the lines of:

"All houseguests run the risk of being portrayed in a less-than-flattering light either by what they do or say or what the producers feel will make for compelling and/or entertaining storylines. By agreeing to appear on the show, do you understand what this means and are you prepared to accept the consequences of consenting to live under these stipulations?"

The risk of being ridiculed is very real and very likely. If Amber didn't understand that before she signed on, she certainly will when she resumes her civilian, non-BB life.

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
I have 13 and 9 year old step daughters. They would laugh at anything that put me in a bad light.

I applaud Amber for asking. I know people that aren't very "book smart" but can fix anything or build anything. I respect those abilities because at 52 I can do neither.

There are different kinds of smart.

It's kind of like driving--anyone who goes slower than us is a slow poke, crappy driver who is going to get someone hurt. And anyone who drives faster is a menace to society, a raving maniac and is going to hurt someone.

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
I think that the producers are trying to help Amber's public image by showing her lack of knowledge in other areas. They are trying to soften our view of her and the anti-Jewish garbage that she spewed. I believe we are being shown that she is just not very intelligent or educated.

The laugh track was priceless and it made more fun of Tameka than Amber.

Robin42
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07-20-2007

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Robin42 a private message Print Post    
Sure, Amber should be commended for asking and not just pretending she knows what people are talking about, I do agree with that. But you have to wonder...why didn't she ask when she was in school or anytime else in the 10 years since she has been out of school? Those words were simple vocabulary words used in school from at least the 7th grade up.

BB has just exploited a HG's weak point as they always do, no surprises there. People just take more offense to it when it has to do with intelligence. Because no one wants to be called stupid.

Mlt
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09-18-2002

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mlt a private message Print Post    
"All houseguests run the risk of being portrayed in a less-than-flattering light either by what they do or say or what the producers feel will make for compelling and/or entertaining storylines. By agreeing to appear on the show, do you understand what this means and are you prepared to accept the consequences of consenting to live under these stipulations?"

Yes, but think about all the words in that paragraph that Amber likely didn't understand (sorry, I just couldn't resist)

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
And she still doesn't know what backdooring means! LOL

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 11:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Mean. Amber has given them enough material to cast her in a negative light that BB doesn't have to stoop so low as to making fun of her lack of intelligence or book smarts. Maybe it's past drug use, not having access to a better education, or problems learning and retaining facts/definitions/etc., but with so much else they could have used, making fun of her in this way just seems tacky and mean spirited on BB's part. It left me wondering if it made the BB producers feel better about themselves that they could put together a three minute (or however long it was) montage of "let's show the world how dumb Amber is!"

Debbieeeee
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09-16-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 12:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Debbieeeee a private message Print Post    
I may be off base here but ... Back in the first few weeks, Amber was talking about being in a bad car accident and being in the hospital for awhile - I have been wondering if the accident plus the drug usage have combined to actually handicap her mentally. I know when I look at her face she always seems to be so "out of it" - also, the lack of expression on her face may have to do with plastic surgery needed after the accident - anyone else "see" this?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 12:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I haven't watched on the regular TV yet, but even on the small feed, typing furiously I was offended by the laugh track. Actrually I'm always offended by laugh tracks.

I was also surprised she didn't know backdoored and outed .

Tobor, I also want to know definitions. When someone uses a word I can almost always figure out by context what THEY mean, but I'm likely to look it up. All too often it isn't being used correctly and I don't want to perpetuate the mis-use.. I'm sure I mis-use enough words as it is.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 2:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
I fell asleep last night before the show was half over last night and must have missed this bit. I certainly wasn't burning up this morning to race to rewind my tape from last night and watch...this makes me want to even less.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 2:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Are her racist remarks originating from the same place as her lack of basic vocabulary?

Yep....its called ignorance.

Moonlight
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08-04-2007

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 3:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moonlight a private message Print Post    
Debeeeee, you make a good point that hasn't been covered. Between the possibility of Amber's past dug use, her accident (that may have involved head injuries), learning disabilities, and who knows if she ever finished high school... we all need to remember that we know virtually nothing about these people... except for what BB creates for us.