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Poppy
Member
07-21-2006
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 6:31 am
I haven't read the whole thread, but wasn't Jen on the block one week and they had the POV that was about all the art stuff and she played for POV that week? She intentionally threw it at the end because she knew Jameka would take her off as she had promised, and sure enough, it happened.
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Agirlcalledbob
Member
08-12-2005
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 6:32 am
I am all about conspiracy theories but when you are down to these low numbers of balls it would obvious if there weren't two balls left in the bag. They also couldn't put blank balls or someone's name on more than one ball because those balls have the potential to be picked and then BUSTED.
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Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 6:43 am
I definitely don't think Jen threw that other POV contest! Why on earth would she? Why go with a maybe when you could have a sure thing?!?!? She HAD to buzz in even if she didn't know the answer because that way either she would get the answer correct and win or miss the question and then Jameka would win. If she didn't buzz in and one of the others did and got it right then they would win. I don't know why Jen got so much heat that week besides the fact that people just seem to like to be mean to that girl. She was just trying to stay in the game!
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Cousin_jake
Member
07-04-2002
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 6:48 am
Jen has made some good game moves in the past but, is it just me or has her game plummeted in the last 10 days or so? I think Will and Boogie forgot to coach her on mid-game strategies, no?
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Poppy
Member
07-21-2006
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 6:53 am
Sky - wasn't it just Jameka and Jen at the end of that POV? It seems like maybe Jen buzzed in but gave some crazy answer, but again, my memory is faulty in my old age. I don't have any issue with Jen, but I don't fault others for having one. Some of her behavior and comments have been of such a nature as I could see why they might irritate people or turn them off.
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Delilah
Member
07-08-2005
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 7:08 am
The Amber/Daniele deal was really funny. We all know that Daniele is considering using the POV anyway since she has said she really wants to backdoor Jen. But Amber went into her HOH room and offered not only not to put up Daniele *when* Amber gets HOH (beucase she is "overdue for it") but also that she won't vote against Daniele. Of course she swore on her daughter's life. Daniele said she was considering using the veto but wouldn't say who the replacement would be. But honestly, Amber gave up WAY to much in that one-sided deal. She didn't have to give up anything/strike any kind of deal, and Daniele would probably still do the same thing.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 7:14 am
Jen had nothing to lose in the POV that she lost...she knew that if she buzzed in and gave the right answer she would win...and if she buzzed in and gave the wrong answer Jameka would win. So she did the smart thing by buzzing in and trying before another houseguest gave the right answer (because if my memory serves me there was only one chance in that competition to answer the question -- it wasn't like if she was wrong somebody else could buzz in with the right answer). So yes, in a way she threw the competition, because she really didn't know the answer, but it was still a smart move.
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Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 7:16 am
Poppy - my memory is faulty too - lol but I thought that because the last question was worth so much that others could have won too. It was my hubby that said she had to buzz in to make sure that she or Jameka won. If he was wrong I think I would have loved pointing that out to him. ;o) Jen turned me off a lot in the beginning but now I tend to find her funny. Her comments are really off the wall sometimes. I have learned to love her bluntness and she does seem honest in some ways. I just think she has taken the brunt of a lot of the anger in the house and it makes me feel bad for her. I admire how she carries on and doesn't let things bother her. I would have lost it long ago. I' still amzed at how she reacted to the ice tea incident. It was kind of like a very patient mom dealing with a 2 year old having a tantrum. lol I really hope Dani changes her mind this morning and leaves the nominations as they are and that Amber goes home.
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Poppy
Member
07-21-2006
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 7:29 am
Skydiver - I hear you on the husband thing -- my ex thought he was ALWAYS right -- it was a total pleasure to point when he was wrong! I find Jen funny, too. I think maybe she dealt with the iced tea incident because like you said - dealing with a small child - with her being a nanny she is probably used to that...LOL
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Mssas
Member
08-04-2006
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 7:35 am
How stupid is Dani going to look when she takes one of her "strategic" moves off to put up one of her "personal" ones. Surrrrrrrrrrre Dani, nothing personal huh. I see jealousy written all over this. 
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Upstate
Member
02-11-2007
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 7:51 am
There was more then just Jen and Jameka left in that pov compitition. Jen did what she had to do. It was a smart move on her part. And the hg's just couldn't admit that. Some really are petty. And yes me thinks Dani is a bit intimmidated of Miss Jen. I can't imagine being treated by ED the way Jen has. And she has handled it with tact, grace and inner strength.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 8:00 am
We will never see a big reaction from Jen, unfortunately. I'd love her to tell Daniele: Well, obviously that was your intention all along, this is why I was not selected for POV (yes, it was Daniele's intention) to make darn sure I didn't win and be backdoored. I told you (she did tell this to Daniele) you won't get my vote if you send me to Dustin. That's about it. Enjoy your miserable trip with Amber.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 8:05 am
Most of Dani's "strategic" moves have been emotional ones. The same with Dick. Dani's best move would be to get rid of Eric this week -- he is the most powerful player left in the game -- but she didn't even have the guts to nominate him upfront. To remove Jen instead of Eric at this point is silly -- especially since Eric is vulnerable because he and Jess sold Amber and Jamecka out last week and thus is likely to lose the vote of whichever one Dani takes off.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 10:46 am
It's definitely for personal reasons. She doesn't like Jen and can't stand the sight of her and she wants to get credit for getting her out of the house. So far Daniele has lost 2 jury votes.
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Sminger
Member
08-03-2007
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:15 am
I believe Jen being backdoored is personal also. Danielle is soooooooo jealous of Jen. I do believe Eric has an unfair advantage with AP. He knows what the audience is thinking and seeing. Or at least and idea. Jen thinks she is safe due to the Danielle comment "I have you back". What she didn't know is Dani has a knife in her hand.
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:21 am
Dani has never trusted Jen ... can't say I blame her ... and Jen is a real threat, IMO. I don't believe her sending Jen out is personal. I think it is strategic.
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Kreno
Member
08-21-2005
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:46 am
Jen just went up Dani took Amber off
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Cousin_jake
Member
07-04-2002
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 1:28 pm
Jen has said more than once this week that if she won HOH next she would put up Dick and Dani so I guess trying to get Jen out first is fine. I have no problem with this move just as I'd have no problem with Jen putting Dani/Dick up if she had won HOH. It's all about comp wins at this stage of the game.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 2:09 pm
All I can hope is that the same fate befalls Daniele and a worse fate Dick.. they deserve each other.
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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 2:16 pm
Dani putting up Jen is actually a very strategically smart move, although it would probably cost Dani Jen's vote if she makes it to F2. Dani thinks that her Dad, Eric & Jess are all on the same side. Jameka can't play for HOH. That leaves Jen, Amber and Zach. Of those 3, Jen is the only one to have won anything, and is clearly the bigger threat. Also, taking out Jen prevents any secret Zach/Jen alliance from happening. It may hurt her down the road, but it actually seems like a pretty good move from a competition stand point. Also, I thought Dani didn't mind Jen as much as the other do? I know she "hates everybody" but I didn't think she disliked Jen as much as she used to.
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Cousin_jake
Member
07-04-2002
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 3:33 pm
Gee Spunky, the same "fate" befalls all of them in the game except the final two and then only one of those two wins. That's how it goes. Isn't the whole thing about getting people nominated and then out the door? For all of Will's great strategic moves and manipulations last year, he still only got to fourth place. For all of Janelle's great competition skills during her seasons, she still only got to third place in both years. You need skills and luck. I think Jen's luck has run out. (Her game seems off the last week, no?) Dani or Eric or Dick's luck may run out next. That's the game.
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 3:34 pm
Yes, good point Cousin_jake. There is definitely an element of luck involved with this game.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 3:48 pm
Oh I meant the backstabbing, lying and cheating and backdooring.. all that should befall Daniele and Dick as it did with Jen. To be evicted is actually a blessing with those type of people in there. Just keep Dick and company in there as long as they like it if that's what they're going to get.
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Cousin_jake
Member
07-04-2002
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 4:40 pm
The backstabbing, lying and backdooring is part of every season, no? (Just from recent memory - Jase, Howie, James and Danielle just to name a few from last year) As far as cheating - do you mean the DR manipulations? That seems to have been amped up this year for sure or maybe I'm just noticing it more because the HGs have leaked more of it onto the feeds. I'd prefer a more "hands off" DR but I guess we'll never get that on BB.
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