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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 2:19 pm
We, including me, have said a lot about the guys not standing up to Dick, but the more this has gone on throughout the season, the more I have come to believe there is nothing anyone could have done. Do you really think there are any words that would have made an impression on him? Why? Because it is all calculated. He has no real feelings or emotions involved. What could they say to him to make him quit. The more they would have said the more ammunition it would give him. Haven't we seen that with Jameka? You could not appeal to his feelings of guilt because he has none. You couldn't appeal to him on the basis of common civility, because he does not care. You couln't appeal to him on his daughter's behalf because he has subjected her to this behavior all her life by her own words, so why would he stop now. You couldn't appeal on game because this is his game. We critized the guys for not standing up to him, but if any of them had, they would have gotten the same kind of reaction that Kameka has. It would have just given him more ammunition. And the reaction would have been no different on this or any other board. Unless the person who did it was perfect and had never done anything shady themselves, and we know that person does not exist in the BB house. So instead of being praised for standing up to him, they would have been vilified for being a hypocrite. There was just no way to win this battle. No, the only thing that would stop someone like him was vilolence and that is simply not an option in BB. So ignoring it has really been the only otion. It has been hard on the vitims, but just what else could they have done? You can't blame the victim because they did not stop the perpetrator. That is just not logical.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 2:23 pm
VERY well, said, Allietex.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 2:29 pm
I think you're right. Maybe if they all had said something from the beginning, he would have chilled, but I doubt it. Jen tried to avoid him, but he'd seek her out to heap abuse. His targets couldn't even get away from him. Maybe Dani could have stopped him, but I really doubt that, too. Seems like she's been his target in the past.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 2:29 pm
Allietex, that is a very reasoned and logical post. Thank you for it!
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 2:33 pm
Great post, Allie!!! I just read on another forum that the houseguests should start singing so we get vortex every time Dick goes on one of his rampages...I thought was a great idea for some reason...LOL.
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Loremma
Member
04-25-2004
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 2:33 pm
I think the only way Dick's behavior could have been stopped (and should be stopped) is by BB stepping in. You wouldn't tolerate this treatment at work from a co-worker (which the houseguests are) and yet they have to. In the workplace there would be lawsuits filed. Can you imagine being at work and someone pouring iced tea over your head? It's completely unacceptable that BB has let this go on so long. I used to like Dick, but he's out of control and will not get any better unless BB steps in. As for the houseguests trying to stop him, they can't. Only Dick can with enough motivation and the houseguests can't provide that. Only BB can with the threat (and more importantly CARRYING THEM OUT) of some kind. Dick is like a child who's told don't do that or you'll get in trouble, but nothing happens so he continues. His behavior takes the fun out of watching BB.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 3:39 pm
It would be very easy for BB to stop Dick. He has come very close to the line with the physical threats, so all they would have to do is warn him that if he does it again he is out of there and that there will be a replacement nominee. They would just have to cancel the double elimination week to make it come out right. If they told him that, he would know that he and Dani would both go this week, so he would stop. Of course, I am not too sure he has not been his own worse enemy. By more or less forcing the others to gather in the HOH, he has put a crimp in Amber's paranoia discussions with Jessica and Jameka. If he really thought Dani would be voted out, he could take a DOR at the last minute and ensure that she stay if that is really what he wants.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 3:49 pm
One thing I noticed today. I was recording all the episodes on tape to get them off my dvr. There was an episode where Dick had made a remark about the starving children in Africa. Jameka was offended, but she went to Dick, they had a nice talk about it. Problem solved. Maybe if whoever was getting bashed would go quietly to Dick and have one on ones with him instead of running to TELL on him some of this may have been avoided. Maybe not, but just a thought I had.
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Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 3:59 pm
I would have just told him "if you are going to talk to me like an ass, you'll be looking at one while you do it". Then I would have turned around and mooned him. It is really hard to yell at someones butt. I know, DH taught me that once.
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Redhawk
Member
05-23-2007
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 4:05 pm
Because Dick has been at the top of the popularity poll on CBS's site all season he contributes heavily to the ratings. There are no penalty nominations for verbal abuse by one HG on another and Dick knows this. BB will not remove Dick from the house. It would take a physical act of violence or very real threat for him to be removed.
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Diacritical
Member
08-14-2005
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 4:12 pm
If this POV goes on much longer, I'm thinking Dick will not be there when they get back.
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Beruthiel
Member
08-07-2000
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 4:13 pm
Since BB has only chastised Dick for mentioning physical violence, one must assume that whatever he's doing is within the rules of the game, so they all just have to suck it up and let him get on with it.
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Amac
Member
09-07-2001
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 4:19 pm
Some people watch Dick and are appalled by what they see as bullying. Other people watch Dick and are joyed by what they see as entertainment. I'll just say that Dick is not my cup of tea and the sooner he exits the house the happier I will be.
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Sugar
Member
08-15-2000
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 4:22 pm
I do think he could have been stopped. I agree it would have been hard to find words to stop him, rather the simple act of just ignoring him en masse would have done it. He acts very much like a wanna be and needs attention, just don't give it to him. He probably couldn't stand to be alone, he needs to be a big bad wolf. His actions prove him to be a bully and they all needed to shun him completely, ban together and not be alone with him. I do believe that I would have done so had I been unfortunate to be trapped in the BB house with it. The ice tea episode was enough to kick him out in my book. It was agressive, rude and unacceptable. Do you suppose he spent his youth torturing neighborhood pets and littler kids? I hope not. The other BB players aren't little kids afraid of bigger kids, they are adults and should know enough to turn away. At the very least, they should all have complained to BB and insisted that his behaviour change or they remove him. Wouldn't it be interesting to see the contracts? He is an employee of CBS is he not? Even if a temp, one would think there are multiple HR violations in his actions. By far my least fav BB, it starts to make the one with Jun and allison and icky erica look better.
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Mr_furd
Member
08-01-2007
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 4:25 pm
Dick's behavior can be stopped, however it would require that the other HG be honest not only with him, but with themselves. Dick deals with drunks, drug addicts and other like lifestlyes, he seems to be able to spot someone that is being dishonest or fake. He has not said anything that no one else has said, however he does in very loud and in the person's face. He attacked Jen cause she was so obvious..as someone stated before, during that time, no one spoke up..even Eric yelled at Jen during the endurence comp. Kail wanted to be the queen bee and got stung for her actions. Dick was willing to call a truce with Kail and Jen and with the others to evict Eric, and they turned on him..which is okay within the game, it is as I have stated before, Dick is going to call them out, cause that is what he does.
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Napa1526
Member
07-14-2007
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 4:28 pm
Television is all about ratings. Always has been...always will be. As much complaining as we all do, we ARE all still watching. While Dick's behavior is offensive it gives people something to watch. If we all tuned in and saw nothing but, I love you so much, what can I do, tell me what to do, I cry because I'm an emotional person....how long before most of the viewers quit watching. BB knows who is adding something to the show, therefore, they are not going to make him leave. When he DOES leave, this house will be one boring place. After Jameka's rampage the other night maybe she will pick up where he left off.
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Agirlcalledbob
Member
08-12-2005
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 4:34 pm
I have a strong feeling that BB is doing some encouraging in the DR... so of course ED will continue when BB is urging him to.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 4:46 pm
He has not said anything that no one else has said, however he does in very loud and in the person's face. No one else has threatened to f**k someone else in the a** until they bleed. No one. He called a truce with Jen and Kail because he needed their votes AND he had another target on which he could heap abuse. He still said a lot of nasty stuff about them behind their backs. Dick is not some truthsayer who is revealing all of the houseguests hidden flaws. He is standing next to them flinging homophobic, mysogynistic comments in their faces. It's not honesty, it's namecalling. If BB is unwilling to step in, there is almost nothing the others can do except try to live their lives as if Dick does not exist. They need to hang out together and talk and interact as if he doesn't exist. It's their only defense at this point. Or they can take turns standing behind him and dumping tea on him and hoping he gets mad enough to take a swing...
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 4:54 pm
Name one player in the house that Dick has gone off on that HASN'T double crossed him. There's your answer. 
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 4:56 pm
Why is it up to the guys to stop Dick's behavior?? Sorry, but that sounds sexist to me. No, Dick's behavior wouldn't be allowed in a normal workplace. Someone like Dick wouldn't be employable in a regular workplace - that's probably why he works in a bar. Or, he's better at controlling himself in the real world. This is a TV show. Dick was put on TV so that he would act the way he is acting. If his fellow TV show participants don't like it, they can vote him out.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 5:12 pm
"He has not said anything that no one else has said" Absolutely 100% UNTRUE and we all know it.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 5:14 pm
"Name one player in the house that Dick has gone off on that HASN'T double crossed him. " Jameka.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 5:21 pm
We have been told over and over by the Dick supporters that he can be stopped. The victim is just supposed to do exactly what Dick tells him to do and Dick won't get angry. I mean, is this so hard? And if that doesn't work, the victim is supposed to rack their brain to figure out what they are doing that has provoked Dick and stop provoking him. It's as simple as that. Either do what Dick wants or stop provoking him, assuming the victim can figure it out. And if the victim can't? Well, that's their failure and certainly not Dick's problem. He is just being open and honest. Apparently some people just can't take the truth.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 5:34 pm
That's right, What555456. 1. Let Dick be the house dictator and do what he says. 2. Engage Dick in civil discourse and reason with him. 3. Stoop to Dick's schoolyard bully level and duplicate every single abusive thing that he says to the HGs and direct it at DANIELE. Unfortunately option #3 is the only one that might actually work to stop him from continuing his constant abuse, but the fact of the matter is that the other HGs just can't bring themselves to stoop to Dick's cruel, hateful, abusive level.
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Mr_furd
Member
08-01-2007
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 5:38 pm
>>"He has not said anything that no one else has said">> >Absolutely 100% UNTRUE and we all know it.> I am sure that we could play back some of Eric's, Amber's and Dustin's converstions as well as others and we will hear them insulting and demeaning other HG's..
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