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Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 7:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Not sure why the bile against Eric--he tries, he fails. He makes a half-ass effort? Who cares. Seems like it's his decision, not ours, to do what is best for him.

AP was not really well thought out by the producers. Maybe next year it will be gone.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 7:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"SF, there is an article at Jokers re: AP. Apparently CBS responded to the editor's questions. "

Yes, I read it....it's as vague as this transcript from episode 1 posted above.

"Eric has to give a meaningful effort to complete each task."

And BB gets to decide what constitutes "meaningful effort", which is a very subjective term that CBS can choose to interpret any way they want to.

In neither the transcript or the article at Jokers did they point out specifically what Eric is NOT allowed to do.

My GUESS is that the money that Eric can make with his AP tasks is an incentive for him to accomplish those tasks....but there was no stated punishment for his failing a task or if his "effort" at a task wasn't quite "meaningful" enough.

If Eric thinks accomplishing a particular task would get him evicted, he also has incentive to fail at it....if failing an AP task gets Eric further in the game, he could win! Situations like weren't covered in anything we've heard from CBS.

It's still totally vague and left open to interpretation. If any of those articles or transcripts had even a word about what Eric is NOT allowed to do for any reason, they might mean something.

Iheartkaysar
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08-16-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iheartkaysar a private message Print Post    
Follow up to my earlier post re: the AP concept only working if Eric had entirely separate goals from the rest of the house.

Would this have solved some problems? AP can't win the money. He is guaranteed a spot in the final four. BB announces to him and the viewers that if he is ever "evicted", there will be a twist to keep him in the house. Obviously, he can't try to get evicted, but this frees him to not have to play strategically for himself, but instead is free to follow America's instructions.

I have to disagree with people who are saying "we" have been sending him "clues" and are trying to help him. We asked him to try to evict Jessica at one point, didn't we? Give her the silent treatment? Nominate/evict Dustin? They are his biggest allies. People have the right to vote however they want, but let's be honest. Most are voting to make the game more fun, not to help Eric. I don't blame him for being frustrated. He's trying to reach two goals at once and the two paths are often at odds (if that makes sense).

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 9:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
has anyone every thought the real reason they picked eric was the whole thing he said he is first or second eviction?

You can't play America without Eric??

Maybe CBS just wanted to go cliche??

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
He FAILED the silent treatment. (shown on TV)

Could you update the list. Thank you.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 10:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
It is being reported that Eric completed the task of getting Dustin on the block.

http://bigbrotherwiki.cbs.com/page/America%27s+Player

yayyyyy!!!

Dedonjo
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08-20-2006

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 12:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dedonjo a private message Print Post    
I was confused about him failing the silent treatment. When did that conversation they showed happen? How much longer did he avoid her after he had already 'failed'? Did they bother to call him to the dr and let him know, or did he unknowingly continue the 'treatment' and further upset Jessica??

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 2:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Yeppers, definitely answered the "ALLIANCE" question. We are in an alliance to help Eric go all the way to 1/2 million dollars!

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 2:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
this 'twist' seems to be messing up everyone's game... it's a bummer in a way, but too funny

lol that Jessica didn't believe that Eric saw 'the medic' and broke down crying (in private) thinking he was being disloyal because he was suddenly 'bed bound'

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 3:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
I felt so bad when I found out that he failed the task early on and then continued the task, for hours, when Jessica needed to talk with him. That was cruel of BB not to tell him that he failed. He really tried hard.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 3:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
not to sound harsh, but I would think from BB's standpoint, Eric hardly tried at all. He didn't even last seconds from the moment of their first encounter. Maybe the producers let it go on because they wanted to at least get *some* footage of the task if it had played out properly -- or maybe it was their revenge on Eric for blowing their idea.

silent = no talking

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 4:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Sharinia...sorry to disagree with ya, but AMERICA blew this...NOT Eric!

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 4:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
I'm asssuming you mean because they chose Jessica? it certainly wasn't 'America's' fault that Eric spoke with her.

eta: I thought it was rotten of America to choose Jessica... I felt badly for E and thought he was a good sport about it. i wish that he had done a better job with it though, because it would have been amusing to see.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 4:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
No Sharinia...I wasn't speaking of just this task. I was talking of the entire way through. Eric has TOLD us what he needs in order to survive in the house so that America gets a say...and America failed the test. AMERICA DROPPED THE BALL!!!

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 4:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
okay.. well i was just talking about this task

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 4:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Well, in this task, America still failed because they gave him conflicting tasks...get Dustin nominated and give Jessica the cold shoulder...apparently his talks from before the second task took because Dustin got nominated. But still...it could have gone in an entirely different direction.

Cousin_jake
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07-04-2002

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 4:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cousin_jake a private message Print Post    
Lainee, he should be getting hints from our votes, he hasn't been taking them. The first couple of weeks were easy because our wishes coincided with his. When our wishes diverged from his, it should have given him pause and he should have realized that we were seeing things that he wasn't and acted accordingly. If his actions have caused him to be in a bit of a box, it's on him, not us. At least tonight he seems to be giving it the old college try to get Dustin evicted. (obviously, that was America's choice) If Jen would just take a hint and leave the HOH room we might get to see what Eric can do about this. (Jen can NOT read body language at all or she can and doesn't care)

Bicbicz911
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08-20-2005

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 5:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bicbicz911 a private message Print Post    
Just because America's choice doesn't coincide with one's own individual choice doesn't mean America is wrong. I don't believe America is voting collectively to sabotage Eric's game. Of course there are some very vocal detractors as there are in any open to the public forum.

Cousin Jake has it right. It would behoove Eric to realize that America sees all. We get to hear the things that he doesn't. When Eric chooses to go against the vote, or perform half-heartedly it is disappointing.

I think (as my mama used to say) Eric has gotten too big for his britches, and the vote to give Jessica the silent treatment was in direct response to Eric's arrogant attitude in the DR on Sunday's show.

Eric has repeatedly played the game hard all week his own way and then on Tuesday night at midnight it's "oh yea, I have to do this now". Usually it completely contradicts what he had been doing up to that point. Wrong? Who is to say? Is America unhappy with the choices Eric makes during the week? Apparently they/we are.

If Eric gets booted because he keeps having to do an about-face, it is certainly not "America's fault". It's Eric's own fault for not being a more versatile player, not being able to keep his mouth shut, and not being able to play his cards a little closer to the vest.

This week in particular, Eric has behaved like a little banty rooster, strutting around and offering up his opinions and game play to everyone because Jessica is HOH and he was safe. He admitted it.

I can see the wheels working in Jessica's mind, here he goes again, flipping at the last minute. That is Eric's bad.

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 5:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
I missed Sunday's show...what did he tell us...is there a UTube on it and if so could someone post it here..Thanks!!

Oh and Go Dick...Buh Bye Dustin!!!!!!!! *prays*

Kaili
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 5:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
If America's job is to vote they way Eric wants them to vote, then why bother? He should just play on his own then. It makes no sense...what? To see if we will? Test America? Eric is getting bonus $$ for doing what America wants. America isn't getting anything to vote the way Eric wants. In fact, some people pay for their votes. Why would I pay $1 a text message to vote the way Eric wants me to? If I were going to blow money like that, I guarantee I'd be voting the way *I* want.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 5:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
What hints should Eric be getting when America keeps voting for the very people who support him, defend him, and that have kept him in the game?

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 6:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
The hint: America* doesn't like his alliance and is going to keep voting against it so maybe he should consider talking to the other people in the house if he doesn't want to have to keep betraying his alliance with "his" vote.

* Yes, I know not ALL of America feels this way but it seems, week after week, that the majority does and that's the "America" I'm referring to there.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 6:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Seriously, I agree... if America should vote the way Eric wants, then what the heck are we doing? Why even bother?

If Eric paid attention to who America is voting for, he'd learn a lot. For example, America has not yet voted to nominate Dick or Daniele. That means that America wants them in the house. America voted for him to give Jessica the silent treatment. That may mean that we want Jessica to think for herself for a change. America has voted to nominate (and presumably) evict Dustin. That means that we don't like Dustin and we are not that thrilled with Eric's alliance.

Something else I just realized... I don't think Eric is even remotely attractive. And I find him less and less as the weeks go on, partly because of his abrasive personality.

I want Eric to be nominated next week. Dammit, I wish CBS would give us the option to get him nominated!!!!

Biginjapan
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07-23-2005

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biginjapan a private message Print Post    
Eric is doing a great job as AP. If it was me i would say whatever America - you are stupid and do my own thing.

Biginjapan
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07-23-2005

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biginjapan a private message Print Post    
I would have talked to Jessica in the first 20 minutes and then said...oh sorry i failed that one...i guess i can talk to her the rest of the time.