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Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

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But Kitty those sound like they were VERY different shoes. He took BOTH kids on alone for a few years for as long as he could. When he was unable to work and care for the kids alone and work enough to provide an income from them, and begged his Mom to help him out so he could do it all, she refused. And would only help if he GAVE her the kids.

My understanding was that was tortorous, he held off as long as he could, and finally did it for the kids well being. And even with that he was always around, as much as allowed. If there was alienation I don't believe it came from HIM. His son say his Father has been there for him his entire life, and has never stopped trying EVER.

While Dani might see this differently, much of this is just facts. Also, I'll remind you that Dani went into the house not speaking to the Grandmother who on her blog she wrote how she loves her so much and she is her ONLY family. Sounds like the girl has a LOT of issues, and I for one think it's VERY unfair to put all the blame on Dick, when he has shown how much he loves her and always seemed to try his best.

Vilhelmusic
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08-09-2007

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I still can't get over the America's Player Woobie thing. It doesn't seem like a very interesting thing in this game. Why CBS? Oh why?

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

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switched the feed over to the Jamber show--they are very quiet. Can it please slow down in here now so I can see what everyone's talking about?

Spunky
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10-08-2001

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CBS is trying to get too cute with this AP...

Fan3
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07-07-2005

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must also remember that dick was a young father.. he just turned 44 while in sequester and she turned 21 and is she the oldest??

Flamingo
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08-19-2003

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Vincent is older. Dick mentioned early in the season about bringing his son to a bar on his 21st bday

Kittyab
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07-16-2005

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Lurk, I remember being quite confused about alot of things at that age. It must hurt alot to know your mother didnt want you.

I wont go into details but it took me years to be ok with the fact my parents didnt give a crap about me. So on this point I will give Dani some slack.

Dick, I advise you to back off give her some space.

Krissn
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07-09-2005

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I'm not liking Eric's tone. He is allowed to be confused but I am not a fan of his saying this is all part of his game. At all.

I can handle Eric flipping sides for the game, he can say F America, he can even make stupid jokes about the other hg's, but if he is going to make Jess look stupid, I might start voting for AP to get hourly swirlies.

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
Kittyab.....in the world of Conflict Resolution, when one refers to someone meeting them 75% of the way, its defined as ego, and wanting the power and control. So whatever the situation, it becomes one of a power struggle than people resolving the issue.

A conflict can only be resolved when there is 50/50 give and take. If it isn't that, then there will always be conflict.

I'm not saying this out of my head, I'm saying this is proven withing Conflict Resolution and Interpersonal Skills Training.

Jen
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07-27-2003

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
Dani said on the stairs with Zach and Jen that her life will be different when she leaves the house.

I wonder if Kris was a security blanket for her. She's young to be on her own and out of the house. She's lived with him for since she was 18. So it will be weird to be on her own. But she'll have Nick.

Kittyab
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07-16-2005

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Loppes, walk a mile in my shoes and you would say they should do 100%. But my situation is/was worse then Dani's.

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
I guess what I'm saying is, Dani may not have had the ideal life, but from all they have shared with us, she had a home and roof over her head, went to Christian school etc.
Dick could have given up and given her away for adoption, but he didn't, so as much as I dislike her Dad, I have to give him credit for trying with her, and feel sad for him when she is so outright rude and condescending to him.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

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Dick and Daniele's mother had already split up when she discovered she was pregnant. She had the child then didn't see them for years. During that time, Dick gave the children to his mother to raise.
Those are things I've heard Dick say.

Something I've implied from things he's said is that his mother didn't want him around much because of his lack of religious beliefs. I believe there was fighting over the children betwen Dick and his parents.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Lurk -- those are Dick's "facts". Not Dani's. And certainly not based on anything other than what Dick has said.

It is a story I do not believe, but one I believe twisted by Dick to make himself come out as the victim, misunderstood and not treated fairly.

My guess is if Dani ever opened up with her side of the story, especially as seen through a child's eyes, Dick would not be seen quite so nicely.

The one thing I appreciate about Dani in this entire thing is that she is the one who has the maturity to keep her mouth shut about her father and their realltionship. She is not about to use it to further her 15 minutes of fame.

It is Dick who feels that his personal relationship with his daughter is the basis upon which to get him fame and fortune.

This is one of the reasons I do not like Dick at all and have no respect for him.

Cowgirlstraitup
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07-07-2005

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Does anyone know if Dick is married? Did he re-marry after Dani's mom?

Kittyab
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07-16-2005

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
I think alot of her attitude has been he as not been a father to her growing up so he has no right to tell her anything now.

I am the same way with my mother, my father knows better to even try. I am pretty sure she has alot of resentment towards him. The BB House is not the place to resolve family issues anyway.

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

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I teach conflict resolution classes and each person has to give 100% to the process or it will not work. 50% doesn't get you to done and you're left arguing about the other 50%.

Jen
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07-27-2003

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
I agree What. I also think Dick is needy. I understand wanting a relationship with your daughter, but you can't force it and with his behavior as more a friend, not parent, I think that just adds to the annoyance for her.

Cowgirlstraitup
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07-07-2005

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Well, what I don't understand is if Dick was such a horrible parent then why does his son Vincent say that he was always a part of their lives and why does Vincent have such a good relationship with Dick?

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
Kitty, WE ALL HAVE SHOES, that we think others should walk in. I know there are situations, where children of parents will stop all communication with them or disown them, but there are also young people out there who have had way more turmoil, than Dani and they don't behave in the way that Dani is in her situation.
I'm not suggestion whatever your situation was with your parents isn't warranted. But then, you didn't knowingly go on a public 24/7 Reality Show with your parents. Daniele shouldn't have either if she felt her issues with her family were so strong. If she came on the show like her dad Dick, in hopes they may reconcile, its another issue. But she hasn't shown any indication that she would at least be humanly civil to him while being viewed.

What555456
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06-14-2005

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Cowgirl, as I recall, he is not married now. But was married to a woman who wanted nothing to do with his chidlren, so he did not see them during the seven years of that marriage. His new wife was more important to him than his children.

Kittyab
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07-16-2005

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I need ice cream.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
What...actually the VAST majority of those facts didn't come from Dick!

Loppes
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07-12-2002

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Webchiq correction by 50/50 I meant 100.....or more correctly they have to be Equal at the table.

Jen
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07-27-2003

Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
1. Boys and girls are different
2. Dani is younger and has a different take on things than her brother.