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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 8:36 pm
In general I like Jameka, but I cracked up when Dick said in the DR that God probably didn't give a crap about who won the veto. I do think Jameka is proving herself to be an honest person, and given her job, I think that's admirable. Probably won't win her the game, but admirable anyway.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 8:49 pm
I totally disagree with Jameka's beliefs about God pre-ordaining everything, but I admire her for standing up for what she believes in, and keeping her word.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:39 am
Well the last few weeks Dick's numbers have blown Jameka out of the popularity water! Even with a dip today (likely due to the Jen situation), Dick had 22.9% vs Jameka's 5.4%. And my biggest problem w/her faith is two fold. I have tried very hard to accept that we just see many things differently, esp how everything is pre-destined by God. But she makes it very hard by her lack of allowing for any different viewpoints than hers, even on something like free will, which is IMHO def discussed in the Bible. But what has really turned me off to her is that at least I could respect her for walking her walk. But I've noticed that even while doing so, and while repeatedly bringing God in the BB game in a way I personally don't feel totally comfortable with, she has also broken a fair amount of commandment's. To me if you are going to make such an issue out of how that is how you live your life, then to me it isn't multiple choice. You do or you don't. Why is she ok with lying? With breaking her word? With going back on promises and manipulating situations to her advantage? Now most of us agree all that is part of the BB game. But if she was really playing it as rightously and as religously as she has often stated, then for her I would think it shouldn't be. So I'm having a hard time understanding how she believes that it's ok to go against various commandments, but why she must keep certain pre-ordained actions so the outcome remains as "he" set it. It's just not how I think or believe, and her inconsistancies really bother me.
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Swannanoa
Member
07-09-2007
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 5:31 am
What I was bothered by is that someone can read from the Bible yet drop the "f" word around, talk behind others' backs and just plain be hypocritical. It has certainly made me rethink liking Jameka.
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Ginger1218
Member
08-31-2001
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:40 am
"Her behavior concerning pulling that ping-pong ball borders on lunatic. What makes her think God didn't want her to pull that ball to ensure Jen didn't get off the block?" Bastable, I agree 100%. }
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Beaniebear
Member
07-10-2005
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:41 am
Could it be that Jameka is a new Christian? Or could it be attributed to her young age? I know that the older I have gotten and the more I have read and studied, the less rigid I have become.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:05 am
All of the above? I kinda liked her till recently. But pulling the religion card, claiming to be all pure and high and mighty, yet being just as shady as the rest. She was truly mad that Jen threw the veto comp, thus forcing her hand and forcing her to honor her commitment. Her reaction to Jen winning actually spoke more about her character than any of her blathering on about god.
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:20 am
Beaniebear, I agree with you. Listening to Jameka and hearing the enthusiasm in her voice as she talks about God makes me believe she could possibly be a new Christian. Jameka reminds me of myself when I first became a practicing Christian 10 years ago and that's why I have a soft spot for her. I have no problem with Jameka applying her religious beliefs in the game. It's who she is and she's trying to remain as true to herself inside the house as she is outside the house. I respect that and am sure it's not an easy thing for her to do in the BB house. Unless Jameka starts to walk around the house preaching that all the other hgs are heathens and they are going to hell if they don't accept her God than I don't have a problem with her applying her religious beliefs to the game. Clearly Jameka is more than her religious beliefs. She has a great sense of humor, she's personable, and she's a BB fan who applied to be on the show. I’m rooting for Jameka and I hope she has learned from this Jen/veto incident and in the future will play her cards close so she won’t get caught in a situation like this again.
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:32 am
Costacat, although Jameka is a Christian and applies her faith in the game does not make her any less human or devoid of feelings as anyone else. The fact that Jameka had enough self-awareness to recognize that she made a mistake by telling Jen and other hgs of her plan to use the veto if she won it proves she is flawed and willing to accept her mistakes. I could see why Jameka was upset with Jen because Jen clearly used the opportunity to make a strategic move that helped her game. Also, not once have I ever seen Jameka act high or mighty around her fellow hgs. If anything her social game is one of the strongest in the house as she seems to have a good relationship with everyone except for Zach.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:32 am
I disagree. I saw her completely differently. I saw that she was really upset that Jen threw the competition so that she would then be forced to honor a commitment that she, Jameka, made. If she hadn't wanted to save Jen from the nominations, why did she say she would? As far as her social game, um, nope. I don't see it. I don't see her playing a social game at all. I see her sitting on the sidelines and not doing much other than reading her bible. I see Jessica playing a better social game. Both of them are playing under the radar.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:36 am
She sat and allowed Dick to go off on Jen for something that she choose to do, and when Dani told him to stop because it's hurting Jameka, Jameka said "no I'm alright"...How Chrisitan is that? I don't have a single problem how anyone plays this game including their faith, but cherry picking what you will do based on your faith is unsettling to me.
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Sidecar
Member
07-23-2007
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:39 am
I really used to like her a lot, but I am tired of the non-commital mmmm hmmms, which is in a sense is playing all sides, since she rarely takes a stand. Thats fine with me if she wants to use her version of God/religion as a basis for her strategy. I just think it is wrong for her to openly criticize others for things she has herself done and then claim she is playing the game with integrity.
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Govols
Member
07-19-2005
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:05 pm
Kind of sick of Jameka right now. Sick of: mmmmm hmmmms making mtns out of mole hills taking Jen off the block she gets tooooo loud
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:17 pm
I'm wondering if Jameka will follow God's command when her name is pulled by someone Jameka wants desperately to leave the house? Can't wait for that moment...
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:34 pm
If it's Zach, Jameka will have the revelation that the first time with Jen was actually a lesson from God that she should listen to her heart instead of blindly obeying random ping-pong ball lotteries (clearly the work of the Devil). So Zach will be screwed.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:07 pm
I'm wondering if Jameka, who thinks the winner of BB is preordained, thinks SHE is gonna be the winner this season? I mean, if the winner is already "selected" by god, then why even bother to play?
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:52 pm
LOL - That is pretty much what Dick said to her. Dick's complete frustration with Jameka and her beliefs was one of the more amusing aspects of the show.
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Gumby909
Member
08-20-2005
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:00 pm
I'm sorry - but Jameka bugs me. I have religion and with all the things going on in the world, I really don't think God is watching Big Brother. If she truly believes in God, then she believes in bad things also, and if that is true, she would see that Jen threw the competition and what she did was wrong. It wasn't predestined, just predetermined by Jen and she was played for a sucker.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:37 pm
Wasn't Jameka the one who kinda refused to continue theosophical discussions with Dick during the first week or so? Like, wasn't he asking her some serious questions that she couldn't really answer and so decided she didn't wanna talk any more? I seem to recall...???
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:46 pm
IMO there was nothing wrong with Jen throwing the competition. Throwing competitions is all part of the bigger game of playing Big Brother. It is done all the time. Jen didn't take advantage of Jameka by doing this. Jameka did what she did because she wanted to do it or because she felt God planned for it to happen. Jen has nothing to do with either scenario.
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:46 pm
Costa--- Mmmmm Hmmm, you got that right...STAMP!
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:49 pm
Jimmer, that's right, but that's also why Jameka should've never promised to take Jen off the block if she won veto. She could've just said she would "try," or she would "see what the HOH wants," as in past seasons, or she could've just said she would need to pray about it!
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Gusmonster
Member
06-01-2005
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:49 pm
I guess I'm one of the few who doesn't think for a moment that Jen threw the veto. Why would she trust ANYONE in that house to do what they said they would. And what would be the benefit of having Jam save her with the veto as opposed to saving herself? I don't believe God works by signs like pulling a certain ping-pong ball, I believe He works thru His word and thru prayer but I admire Jam for putting her faith out there and TRYING hard to live up to it. She fails and gets up and tries again.It's really hard to live your faith even in the outside world cuz human nature is always at war with God. I can't imagine doing it in the hyper stress and anxiety of the BBhouse. Here's an analogy: I'm a chocoholic who needs to lose twenty pounds. I know I need to lose it, I believe I'd be healthier without it, and I want to do what's best for myself but I can't tell you how often the chocolate wins!
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Stopthemadness
Member
07-15-2005
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 9:13 pm
I really wanted Jam to win the whole thing until this week. Now I want her to go after Jen before Nick. If she believes God had her pull Jen's ball to play for her with all she had and then take her off if she won then how come she didn't think it was God who made Jen push her button and stop anyone else from getting the answer and show all how much of a bad person she was (there words not mine, it really is all a part of the game)? I would have used that God showed me you were a bad person and needed to go home excuse as to why I didn't use the veto if it were me. Personally I don't think God really cares about BB the game but cares for the people playing the game. I don't know how he would feel about someone using Him to further themselves in a game,or to justify the way they talk about the other people in the house as Jem and Amber were doing the oher night. JMHO
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Veander
Member
07-02-2005
| Monday, August 06, 2007 - 1:36 pm
She's using the religious thing to try to be different or something. She's clearly confused about what god wants for her. Only idiots think that doing nothing "It will happen as god wants it anyway" is something to be believed. The bible even mentions that you don't do that somewhere. You do the right thing and hope that it IS the right thing. She allowed someone to manipulate her based wholly on her religion and she knew it. I don't think god wants his flock to be fools. Personally I'm in the ED club with religion, but I was once a religious guy and that's my take on it.
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