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Does Zach Know What He Is Doing ?

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Missyb
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07-28-2004

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
Based on some of the conversations Zach has been having lately and particularily last nights with Dick do you think Zach has some agenda and real strategy of his own going on ?
Last night I read that after talking with DIck and discussing the possibility of evicting Jameka, DIck got up and Zach says to no one " like you thought of this all on your own" . He doesn't like Dick and seems to be playing him.
What do you guys make of him. I think if he intends to go any further, he needs to break up a pair and pick up a partner real fast.

Suzsmarmie
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07-26-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Suzsmarmie a private message Print Post    
Good point, Missy. I have the live feeds, but can't deal with listening to them much; from what I've read lately, though, Zach has made several snarky remarks about one player or another. Sounds like he's getting tired of being on the outside looking in. Maybe he's ready to make a move to get HOH or something to put some of those folks in their places.

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
I think Zack, surprisingly, does have some game. I believe he lied last night about the DR confirming that Jen was getting a penalty nom. BB didn't stop him when he spoke about it. Then he told the camera he was manipulating Dick into thinking it was his idea to keep Jen.

I still find him kinda icky, but I'm impressed with this move on his part.

Inkydinkydoo
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07-25-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Inkydinkydoo a private message Print Post    
I've noticed the same thing, too, Missy -- especially lately. Zach has not been afraid to disagree with Dick. Last night, Dick was going on about the DR "owing" him the details of any possible way Jen might get herself off the block, and Zach said something like, "I completely disagree with you. They don't owe you anything. They make the rules." And, surprisingly enough, Dick backed down. I like Dick. He has his moments. More people need to stand up to him, though. Until they do, his ranting and raving are going to continue.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I've never had any issues with Zach and think he's a lot more BB savvy than he lets on.

I don't think he'll make any moves for another week or 2. I bet he starts winning HOH's and vetos and it'll be Zach that starts picking people off.

My only concern is that he'll keep Dick around because he thinks no one except Dani will vote for him. But Zach doesn't realize how the HG do not like him and feel he's the BB joke and I can easily see Amber,Jess, Jam vote for Dick over Zach. But because America votes (and you all know how adept America is at voting)I feel that if Dick is in the f2 he'll win by one vote....America's vote.

Jcsmom
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08-25-2006

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jcsmom a private message Print Post    
I agree, I thought Zack was completely clueless and a social outcast, but the longer he hangs in as a non-threat, I think he does have a clue...every now and then, we get a glimpse into his strategy, I kind of look forward to see where he is going with this. If he does pull off a big move, he could win the whole shabang, just by lying low--- if he gets to final 2 his hands would be pretty clean (on the surface) because no one has taken the time to realize he did minipulate them, I cant believe I'm saying this, yeah, Zach!

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
From watching the shows and seeing a little of the feeds, at this point Zach is the only one I'd care to see win.

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
Lilfair, i have the same concern about keeping Dick to the end and I think that is what he wants to do. He may be able in jury questioning, which so much we don't see, be able to show how much behind the scenes work he did do , but, you never know. He would haveJens vote, Dustins, Jess, and maybe Jameka and Amber (for the "good persons" vote if her remembers to push that angle).

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
I think Zach is playing this well actually....he's the 5th wheel in the JEDD alliance, and he knows it. He just wants to get to the round of 5, then he'll see what he can do (depends on who's HOH-if he is, he'll pick a pair and stick with it- if he's nommed, he'll try to get POV, if he can't he'll work on the HOH for the likely tiebreak)

Tre34
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08-17-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tre34 a private message Print Post    
Zach last night also pointed out to Dick that it was a good thing that his daughter wasn't there to witness this event with Jen on her birthday. Dick went on to state that it was not his fault yada yada yada. Zach pointed out that nonetheless it would have marred her day and Dick became quiet and pensive (seeing it from a less selfish view - of course a brick had to fall on him for the sight - aka Zach).

What555456
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06-14-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 10:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Zach + Jen = secret alliance from the beginning?

Could it be?

They both are very good at playing dumb.



Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I'm concerned that Jam and Amber might think that no matter how awful Dick treated people that at least he played the game. I'm afraid that those 2 might think that Zach was just lucky to make it to the end. Oy....I promised myself I was NOT going to occupy my mind with BB gameplay since I so do not care for these people.

I, however would very much like to see Zach in the F2 if I can't have Jess and Eric there. Actually I would want anyone in the F2 except for Dick or Dani. Both contestants have bothered me from practically day one. And before the game started just from the bio's I thought Dani and Dick would be the ones I liked and would root for....but nope just the opposite.

Agirlcalledbob
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08-12-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 10:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Agirlcalledbob a private message Print Post    
Kc (and others) I agree, I've grown to like Zach and gone from thinking he was weird, to feeling sorry from him, right into thinking he may be a complete genius who hasn't had to show anyone his cards because he has been in the background.

I would be happy if he won, and he is the only one left I feel that way about.

Jcsmom
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08-25-2006

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 10:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jcsmom a private message Print Post    
Zach + Jenn = secret alliance

I never thought of that, wouldn't that be awesome!! It might explain quite a bit, going back a few threads ppl were saying that they were similiar---awkward and odd---maybe it is all game, wouldnt that be a hoot!! Everyone getting played by the 2 most likely to NOT succeed---hysterical.

It would be even more fantastic if Zach was lying about getting Jenn's penalty nom details---I'm not saying she didnt get one, but imagine if she could go for HOH and won---priceless---no one doubted Zach's DR revelation...kudos if he embellished the whole thing for his alliance ---conspiracy theories have gotten the best of me---I've been on the boards all morning, I think I need a break, I'm cracking up :-)

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
It would be hysterical if this was one big conspiracy. One great scam. I don't think Zach would take such a big risk it it wasn't true though. He would be putting a lot in the line to be busted so easily at this point.

Chere
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08-10-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chere a private message Print Post    
One thing I learned about Zach from last night's festivities is that he believes he can beat Dick in the final two. Zach will never vote out Dick.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Maybe Zach foolishly thinks no one would vote for Dick. He'll be shocked that viewers of the feeds and shows find Dick appealing/interesting in a good way. And so did those on the jury. It's all very strange...the hold that man has on people.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I think Zach has a conscience about what he's doing in the game and has gotten smarter about how it's being played, yes. He got in with the Donatos and that's better for him than being ridiculed by the LNC every day. The remaining LNC have never warmed up to him and Eric talks down Zach every chance he gets. Zach's turn for eviction is coming next week or the week after.

Poor guy--he's got a heart but little say in the game.

Wavelength
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07-25-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wavelength a private message Print Post    
I'm not a Danielle lover by any means but I thought Zach realizing and telling Dick that he would have ruined her birthday was really commendable. He is the only one to say anything of the sort. Even the school counselor said nothing. Also, right after the fight Dick was in the pool acting like his story will be so much better than Danielle's when she gets home. That is just the kind of selfishness that I can't stand it him. Thanks Zach!!

Inkydinkydoo
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07-25-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 11:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Inkydinkydoo a private message Print Post    
I almost get the sense, especially in the last day or two, that Zach is kind of testing the waters to see how far he (Zach) can go and still get Dick to back down. Almost like he's trying to see just how much control he has over Dick. And, honestly, it seems to be working. He made (let) Dick think the "get Jameka" plan was his (Dick's), last night (from what I read). It's almost like he's figured out when he should puff up Dick's sense of importance and when he can afford to take a poke.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Zach's plan, if it works like it should, is the best plan a HG came up with since the 6 Finger Plan. WTG Zach! He was cracking me up all night tonight on the BB TV Show.

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
If Jen stays Zack should try to form a new secret alliance with Amber and Jen or Amber/Jameka if Jam stays. None of these three have a chance of winning against the others if they don't wake up.