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Bastable
Member
07-09-2002
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 9:20 pm
Today, Jameka also said "Jesus, you are my lover." I sure hope that's not true.
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 9:42 pm
The very beginning of the show Amber was praying for God to help her win this. Then she turns around and lies and talks mean about people and swears. Somehow I don't believe that is the way God works. As for Jameka her faith is so strong as she says, but I think God has way more important things to take care of instead of who wins HOH or this game of lying and cheating, but I do agree with Ladytex and he does care about the people in BB and everywhere.
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 11:51 pm
4 points. Being a Christian does not mean a person is sinless.....There is no need for forgiveness or salavation if we are sinless. God cares about all of us. Christian and non Christian. Christians try to do the will of God to the best of thier ability. Yes they have faults and make the wrong decisions from time to time, but they should try. We can only expect perfection from God himself. Just because we as week humans aren't perfect does not mean we do not belive in God or try to do our best to follow God. It is our inperfections that tell us we need God.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 11:54 pm
But does he give a damn about BB?
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 12:04 am
He cares about his people. Faults and all. Who is to say that BB is not one of his ways to bless his people or reach others that are lost?
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Fieryfurnace
Member
07-05-2006
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 12:20 am
Me.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 12:25 am
Then maybe he wants one of the other hgs to win that she finds so easy to villify. Don't get me wrong, I like her. I just don't like her bringing God into this game, that you lie and cheat in. I realize that the idea is that even sinners are cared for. But I would assume that sinning might be looked at as an occasional slip up, or accidental, or do it once learn your lesson kind of thing. I don't get that God would be quite so keen on bestowing blessings on someone who commits premeditated sin over and over for nothing more than to get her hands on the root of all evil.
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Needlenose
Member
09-16-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 1:43 am
Oh,yes Mummy35332, The question, of course is: How can we as sinners be as perfect as God? God is able to give us all of His perfections, His righteousness can be credited to our account so that we can enter into heaven immediately at death without so much as an intermediate stop. You were wondering why bring God into this game and the houseguests just gave one of the best reasons when they started speaking about their "biggest fear" and the fear of death came up. God is "Love" and Love is a potent antidote to fear. Hopefully Jam and Kail can share knowledge about this Love and the HG's whole BB experience will have eternal rewards. . .
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Toolhound
Member
06-22-2007
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 4:04 am
I think the Big Brother game is something the Devil would be more interested in. Looks like at least a few of these people would sell their soles for $500,000.00
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 5:25 am
I think Jameka is using her perception of God to justify her behavior in the house. It's her way to justify what she's doing. I think she HAS to feel she's right, and it's all tied up with her religious beliefs. Ladytex, I agree with you, too.
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Swannanoa
Member
07-09-2007
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 6:58 am
I'm sorry but this is just not how my God operates. Remember you can pray to ask God, but He will give you only what He thinks you need, not what you want. On top of that, Jameka actually gives credence to those who voice the opinion that "some" Christians preach but do not practice. To me, even in the BB house, (and I have no doubt that Jameka has a love and faith for and in God) Jameka should have been very careful about how many "f" bombs she threw around, about saying God has preordained the outcome of BB (like He sat around and did that over bagels one day) and all the hypocritical, behind-the-back stabbings she has done towards other houseguests. Sorry, but as a Christian, this is not my idea of my God. I don't believe He's playing this game. I believe He cares about all of us, but to put it out there like that doesn't sit well with me at all.
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Yoda
Member
08-11-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:27 am
As a Christian God is a part of every part of my life and every decision I make (big and small) and I try to reflect the light of Christ whether I'm speaking at a church or playing softball. Does He really care about the outcome of BB? Or the Super Bowl? Or my softball games? I don't think so as far as who wins or loses but as someone stared earlier I believe He does care about His children that are involved.
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Bicbicz911
Member
08-20-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:37 am
I came home from work this morning to watch BBAD...took a break to check out the threads and am glad to find this topic! Amber is NOT going to be able to keep up this facade she has created to look good in Jameka's eyes. Every other word while she was backstabbing her alliance members not present was G.D. Not to mention the other colorful and vulgar words she likes to use when she is wound up. That's a very big no-no for a practicing Christian. Not to say that it doesn't slip out from time to time in a majority of folks, but seriously...every other word? I had to turn it off, the hypocrisy of it all was maddening. Amber is busted. God will not guide HOH to her greedy little hands.
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Delilah
Member
07-08-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:45 am
In my opinion, the best example of how to protray Christianity in the house and still play the game ... and it is a game ... was Jason from BB3.
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:50 am
ITA with Swannanoa, especially this part: Sorry, but as a Christian, this is not my idea of my God. I don't believe He's playing this game. I believe He cares about all of us, but to put it out there like that doesn't sit well with me at all. As regarding prayer, (I'm trying not to bash here) people who have gone beyond a grade school understanding of Christianity usually understand several things about prayer: *As Swannonoa says, God does not always answer prayers as we wish. *Prayer is really about discovering what GOD wants for us, not what we want from God. *In The Lord's Prayer (the template for Christian prayer) Christians are taught that the key ideas for praying are: #1 - To acknowledge God is God (Our father who art in heaven) #2 - To praise God (Hallowed be they name) #3 - To acknowledge God's vision above our own (THY kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven) I would translate this to mean that Jameka and Amber should be praying that BB will not somehow interfere will God's plans for their lives. #4 - To ask for things (Prayers of Petition) - Note what is best to ask for; your daily NEEDS, not your wants. Give us this day our daily bread #5 - To ask for forgiveness since we are not perfect And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil For those who add the final Doxology For Thine is the Kingdom ,the Power, and the Glory, now and forever - a return to #1 and #2. There are lots of interpretations about the meaning, significance, and efficacy of prayer, so again I don't want to seem to bash - but more sophisticated interpretation suggests that praying for things unrelated to your soul's salvation or your immediate daily survival needs, such as having your football team win, or such as winning a Veto Comp, is missing the point. (Forgive me if I'm being too didactic - I used to teach a religion class. )
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Yoda
Member
08-11-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:50 am
I agree with you on that Delilah...Jason is still one of my favs.
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:51 am
Did BB3 Jason cause a stir on the message board like Jameka has done?
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:52 am
Yeah, Jason was a great example.
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Yoda
Member
08-11-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:56 am
Jason didn't 'preach' it, he 'lived' it
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Needlenose
Member
09-16-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:59 am
I also agree with you delicious Delilah, and God bless you most kind Kminfinity for your boldness and Wisdom.
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 8:03 am
#3 - To acknowledge God's vision above our own (THY kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven) I would translate this to mean that Jameka and Amber should be praying that BB will not somehow interfere will God's plans for their lives. Kminfinity, I completely agree with your summation upthread. Regarding Jameka I think she's very new to Christianity based on her enthusiasm and how she talks about God. I believe she's making prayer requests and using religion in the game based on the knowledge she has obtained up to now in her Christian education. I believe as Jameka matures and seeks the true word of God she won't be as literal in her Christian walk as she's being in the house. Regarding Amber, emotionally she's at a very vulnerable place and she's absorbing everything Jameka is telling her as truth.
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Amykat
Member
07-24-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 8:04 am
I am a Christian. Like Yoda put so well, God is a part of every single thing in my life. Is He "micro-managing" BB? I don't think so. I believe He has people cross our paths and allows situations to happen to us for His reasons. Maybe for us to learn something, maybe for us to help someone else. Does He already know who won BB? Of course He does. All powerful, all knowing. That's one of the hardest parts of getting a handle on "free will". It's difficult to reconcile free will and knowing that God already knows the outcome. That's what makes Him God and us human. We cannot begin to understand. Jameka talking about God all the time doesn't faze me. My DD and I do here at home. I will say the language Jameka has used leaves much to be desired (as does the language of the rest of them!). But then, to me, it just shows her vulnerability to being in a really hard situation and how all of us do things we wish we wouldn't! Bearware said There's a reason I don't put christian bumper stickers on my car - sooner or later, I'll mess up and that will just make God look bad. I am the same way!!!! 
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Yoda
Member
08-11-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 8:04 am
Great post Kminfinity
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 8:16 am
Good point Chere, about maybe Jameka being new to Christian ideas. I totally understand "baby steps" of mostly praying to ask God for favors. I do it myself, since it is comforting to feel that connection on a personal basis - though I always add, if it's your will____ (and If not,) give me the wisdom and strength to accept and understand... My problem comes when some people feel that the mere fact that they profess Christianity somehow means events will bend to their wishes. Jameka and Amber come close to acting that way. I dislike that whole *retrospect* Calvinist vision where people think good people will be rewarded with earthly riches, so if you want to see those who are favored by God, check out the millionaire's circle. That idea, fortunately, is losing its grip on Christian philosophy. I'm of the school that believes the "better" you are, the more that's expected of you.
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Needlenose
Member
09-16-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 8:21 am
Wow, Yoda, Chere, Amykat, what a wise bunch you are. This morning I heard: "Trust your unknown future to a known God . . ."
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