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Missy2
Member
07-31-2001
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:23 am
I think so people just take longer to adjusting to living with strangers and playing the game. It will hurt him in the long run but his social probs are a lot less in your face than Dick's horrible behavior.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:26 am
riverside is east 
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:26 am
I'm the Zach of the clubhouse. Seriously though perhaps he's just socially awkward. I am.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:41 am
I think Ketchup says it best, he's "just" socially awkward. Some people are. I'd like to know what BB thought made him stand out though.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:44 am
That's me, Missy. I could not imagine living with strangers. I travel -- I pay single supplement. The ONLY time I've ever lived for any length of time with anyone was one year college roommate. And there was a guy I would have . . . but it didn't quite happen.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 12:43 pm
Color, Riverside is southern CA...about 60 miles east of LA and about 40 miles east of OC
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Snee
Member
06-26-2001
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 12:49 pm
ketchup, you're not the zach of the clubhouse. you fit right in, and you never kill a thread (like i have..)
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 1:38 pm
Waaaay back in '60 had relatives in San Bernardino. And then they were in Hawaii for a while. And then back to San Clemente.
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Calimom3
Member
07-12-2007
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 2:16 pm
Hey Pamy, I'm also in Riverside!! (wood streets) Zach seems like he'd fit in with a group of mostly guys, ala a bar,sporting event,etc. He seems to gather courage from 'mob mentality' such as when he streaked. I bet he's the kid everyone made bets on, whether they could get him to do things... I sorta feel sorry for him, but then he picks at his nose, or says something chauvinistic, and I'm back to being creeped out by him...
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 3:23 pm
Calimom, I read your profile and you seem like my kinda gal!!!! you will have to come to our next TVCH Meet!!! It is in Oct!!!! would love love to meet ya! Zach actually reminds me of the kid in HS that wants so desperatly(sic, I cant spell today) to be part of the 'in' crowd that he tries tooo hard and comes off geeky to the point no one wants him around....if he would just be himself and let things flow he would prolly fit in more easily.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 3:24 pm
ps Cali...I live off Adams by Ramona HS ( I am not familar w/wood streets, I have only been here 7 yrs, grew up and my heart is still in OC )
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 3:50 pm
well, zach IS a computer nerd, you know how socially awkward us cn's are!! pamy, when where in oct?
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Bastable
Member
07-09-2002
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 6:17 pm
Having gone to several comic book conventions in my time, I have to say I find that like many of the misfits you might find at one of those, Zach is quite harmless and sweet. He means very well. The way these people treat him is, I think, unkind. Daniele, especially, has a very mean streak a mile wide. It's like these players never emotionally left high school. I do wonder what CBS saw in him, though, that allowed him to make the final cast.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 7:35 pm
Bastable, I agree.
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Valentine
Member
07-07-2005
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 7:44 pm
This thread was interesting to me because I teach elementary students with Autism Spectrum Disorder and am currently completing my Master's thesis on the diagnosis. The first thing I thought of when I noticed Zach's behavior is Asperger's. It is only natural when you are part of the ASD community. I also thought the same thing of Jen when she displayed a complete lack of empathy. Of course, in Jen's case it may be a complete act. I have no thought's on Amber's constant crying because that is a completely different area!!
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Brit_lusion
Member
06-20-2005
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 7:44 pm
I always got the feeling that he was trying to pull off a "Howie" but he just couldn't live up to such a big persona and now everyone just thinks he's weird....
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 7:53 pm
valentine, i would love to read your thesis! and i want to thank you for teaching children with autism. i love my sons teacher, she is the best best best teacher i have ever known! i just think zach is socially awkward. and aspergers is much more then social awkwardness.
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Valentine
Member
07-07-2005
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 8:02 pm
Zachsmom- I love teaching my students! Some of them can be a challenge, but as the saying goes the greater the challenge, the greater the reward. I agree Aspergers is much more, but like I said if you know about it-it is what you first think of. Can we figure out Amber because right now she is crying again. Why did they have to put her name on the banner!
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Sagecupcake
Member
07-05-2007
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 9:35 pm
I too have a son with Asperger's. I thought of AS for both Zach and Jen. Zach's rock collecting along with his social awkwardness struck a chord with me. Jen's lack of empathy, self centeredness and just general lack of social graces are all aspie tendencies. However I do think that if you look at most people you will note some AS/Autistic/PDD characteristics in them.
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:05 pm
I think this is just a overanalysis of someone who just isn't like in the house and isn't going to go out of his way to be nice to people he doesn't want to be nice to. The man knows he is not liked...why is he going to put himself in the center of attention...he just wants to fly under the radar and hopefully get the attention diverted somewhere else. There is nothing rock with Zach, maybe he is just a nerd...or a dork, and frankly there is nothing wrong with that. If anyone were to analyze anyone you could find plently wrong with a person and probably (unprofessional, of course) diagnose someone with some mental disorder or disability.
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Penpoint
Member
03-27-2001
| Monday, August 06, 2007 - 12:22 am
What did Zach do or say to make Jameka think he was her "enemy"? I do not think Zach is socially awkward, particularly shy, or that he has any kind of disorder. After all, he's an events promoter! In LA! He's involved in the club scene and he's promoted himself onto this and other TV appearances. Not the profile of someone who is shy and awkward. In fact the Zach we saw in the early days of BB8 was a very different Zach than the one we see today. He was outgoing and enthusiastic and playing the game (perhaps too hard, too early) until just about everyone in the house shunned him. Anyone who is shunned in a small, closed society (such as BB8) is not going to appear particularly comfortable, and any action they take will be used by the society to further justify their shunning. Given that, he's not playing a bad game, lasting longer than expected perhaps.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Monday, August 06, 2007 - 4:22 am
zach is a graphics designer not an event promoter 
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Celticlass
Member
09-10-2005
| Monday, August 06, 2007 - 5:11 am
Big hugs to all you other moms of Aspie kids! In less than two weeks we will be dropping our DD off at college. I do think it is quite intriguing that those of us that are intimate with the details of autism-spectrum behaviors seemed to have zeroed in on Zach and Jen 
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Monday, August 06, 2007 - 5:21 am
celtic, YAY for DD!!! my son isn't an aspie but does have autism. it's difficult and rewarding being a parent of an ASD/PPD child, but i would not want my son any other way i don't want to label or assume that jen or zach have autism, but i have noticed in my everyday life the differences between 'normal' kids my sons age and those children with some traits that are quite frequent in those who are autistic. i do not think i would have noticed this had my child not been autistic.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, August 06, 2007 - 5:59 am
I don't think Zach displays off the charts awkwardness at all. The person I see with severe social awkwardness is Dick (hands down)with Amber being a close second. No one has given Zach a chance in the house except for those who have already left.
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