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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:01 am
Blood (no matter how tainted) is always thicker than Ice Tea
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Toolhound
Member
06-22-2007
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:03 am
I think it is no advantage at all for Dick and Dani. If you saw them this morning on the feeds after everyone was in bed. These two have a hard time to agree if it is daylight or dark. We have already seen when they were both up for nomination they each made their own decisions. They have a disadvantage because anyone that wants them broke up will put them both on the block to do it.
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:04 am
" There is NO PROOF that D/D knew that the other would be in the house. Not until the twist was revealed." Dick admitted that when he went into casting he saw Daniele's name on the list. He admitted he figured out that she would be in the house.She also believed he was going to be in the house . They discussed this very thing last week on the feeds.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:27 am
I guess it isn't any more an advantage then the DR telling Eric stuff they shouldn't and now it looks like they are telling Amber stuff too and probably all of them.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:29 am
quote:We could never win this argument
Yup. Those who are Dick haters will take any little thing and turn it around. Those who like Dick will be accused of turning a blind eye to the DISadvantage they have, with the target the size of the CBS lot on their backs. Whatever. For Raen: Farmer in the dell...
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:49 am
Let's say if Daniele or Dick make final two, the other will be in sequester working the final votes. I don't care what anyone says, although we don't see it, the game still being played in sequester. To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if Dick and Daniele came in the house with the goal that one of them would push for final two while the other works the votes in sequester- as that would an easier task to accomplish than a father/daughter final two. Furthermore, I disagree that the Dick/Daniele pair is no less a threat than Dustin/Joe or Jessica/Carol. As we saw, D/J and J/C cared less about the other person leaving. In fact Dustin and Jessica were overjoyed when their nemesis was evicted. I don't think the same could be said about Dick and Daniele. Even Dick told Daniele that they have the greatest advantage in the house because they have a trust bond within the game that cannot be broken.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:59 am
I find Dani and Dick's ongoing success in the house and the fact that they have not been eliminated to this point quite astonishing. Look at how quickly the twins were eliminated in Season 5, once the twist was revealed. Also the deliberate attempts to break up the pairs in Season 6. It is pretty amazing game play (or a lucky side effect of Dick's personality) that he has been able to keep the focus on Kail, The Mrs. Robinson alliance and Jen.
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 12:08 pm
I think some years its all about the Power of Two--Daniele and Jason, Boogie and Will during the All-Stars. Doesn't seem to be based on romantic coupledom, but on absolute trust and loyalty. D&D have that bond and I don't think they'll sell each other out. While "unfair" might not be the right word, I do think it's unfortunate that the HGs didn't do anything about getting rid of one or the other weeks ago. What to me is unfair is that others have to be subjected to Dick's agressiveness all the way to the bitter end, whether in sequester or in the house. I don't care if this is what they signed up for--his tactics are too far over the line for me.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 12:34 pm
I think it's unfair. It's not just that these two have a bond that can't be broken, it's that unlike with the other pairings, until the pair had had a chance to deal with their relationship other houseguests felt they couldn't interfere. If they tried to split the pair they would have denied them the chance to reconcile, and even if that didn't mean much to the houseguests on a personal level (although I get the impression that for the most part it did mean something) they must have thought that the "twist" of this season was the father-daughter pairing, and BB wouldn't like it if that twist was broken. In comparison to D&D, the other pairs were irrelevant. Now D&D have reconciled they can be treated as just another pairing, and apart from the fact that they wouldn't vote each other out (and there have been other pairs almost as strong) I think their position in the game has normalised. But I think they had a huge advantage up until this point.
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 12:45 pm
Chere, how is that any more unfair than Will and Boogie from last year?
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Tide
Member
08-11-2006
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 4:58 pm
Just to be contrary: It's an ADVANTAGE for Dick since he has benefitted from Dani's insight and physical prowess. It's a DISADVANTAGE for Dani. MPO is that Dani paired (spent time) with Nick in order to aviod Dick. To some extent, her reclusiveness, and (probably) her whining, stem fom having "Daddy Dearest" in the house. Dani's so good at comps, I wish we could have seen what she could have accomplished without Dick's negative baggage.
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Tobor7
Member
07-19-2002
| Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 6:44 pm
It is unfair. No matter what they will never vote aginst each other. The other HGs do not have the same odds. To be fair the house should have been filled with father/daughters.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 6:53 pm
While I agree with you Tobor... In what I think will go down as one of the dumbest moves in BB history, Jess and Eric gave Dick and Dani an ever increasingly disproportionate (as the numbers dwindle)advantage free of charge by getting rid of Dustin. Can we really fault BB any more when J & E have made D & D so strong when they could have destroyed them as a team by sending Dick home?
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 7:04 pm
I agree with Tobor, too!! Sorry I am NOT interested in a family reunion at all, maybe this sounds cold but I avoid commenting on their relationship, etc. because I don't give a crap! I think it's natural for a parent to want to make it better for their child and protect them. God forbid anyone said anything to Daniele like what was said to Jen...she doesn't have her father there to stand up for her! Their is the one SURE alliance in the house. Jess/Eric and Jam/Amber can always switch around, don't assume they are as close as family!
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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 7:36 pm
I cant say Blood is thicker than water! Was Cowboy and Nikomis an advantage? NO so much for the comment **Blood (no matter how tainted) is always thicker than Ice Tea ** How can we say it is any more of an advantage than say Dustin and Ambers friendship? Or Eric and Jess. Yes Dick will have Dani's back but it's only 1 vote
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Jaided
Member
08-04-2007
| Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 8:02 pm
I read in all sorts of threads about how strong D & D are and how big a threat they are etc etc.. and I frankly don't see how they are any more a threat than Eric and Jessica?? Seriously.. I mean I know Daniele is good at comps.. but I also know these people are good at backdooring.. and had Jess not nominated Daniele, she would have been gone already. But seriously.. HOW are they more a threat than ANY 2 people in an alliance?? I really don't get it at all. IMO Dick has no chance of winning this thing... if he is in final two and the jury house is all nerd herd, they will stick to their own and have their FINAL say for Dick.. I don't see them as ANY kind of a threat more than anyone else. Just my opnion
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Jaided
Member
08-04-2007
| Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 8:05 pm
Also wanted to add.. LOL Dick and Daniele do NOT Have a good relationship.. show or no show. Daniele is NOT that good of an actress that she can fake her contempt for him. They ARE like oil and water in essence. EVEN if they knew before the show started that they would be in the house with eachother (and I know dick mentioned that he sent her a message about it).. it still doesn't help them. Jase and Diane had an alliance before they entered All Stars.. and look how that worked for them? The ONLY advantage I see is that Daniele knows she will always have his vote...
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 8:08 pm
I agree that they do have somewhat of an advantage at least as far as being able to trust one another. However, the others could have gotten them out, at least one of them, on several different occasions. They didn't and they have nobody to blame but themselves.
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Tobor7
Member
07-19-2002
| Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 8:21 pm
It is an uneven playing field. As it is for Eric.
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Ambi
Member
08-11-2007
| Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 8:39 pm
It's odd. I don't recall many people having a problem with the Bible twins. Remember them?
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 8:47 pm
Oh My gosh...no one knows they're related? How many times have they been on the block??? The others have made their own bed ... lay in it!!!
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 8:55 pm
Exactly Scoot!
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Pixieduster
Member
09-27-2004
| Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 9:46 pm
Unfair advantage only because BB wants to keep Dick in and has obviously put pressure on and influenced the other houseguests.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 11:31 pm
The HGs HAVE tried to get them out, but things have worked against them. Week 1, doesn't really count because people were still adjusting to the game. But they have been targets since then. First, they were targeted week 2 by Jen, but Dani won POV, took herself off, Joe went up and AMERICA told Eric to get Joe out because Joe was bad and Dick was the hard rocker who just wanted to reconcile with his daughter. The following week, Dick won HOH, so, unlike with other teams in the house, Danielle was GUARANTEED safety. The next week, Dustin won HOH and the target was Jen followed by Nick, because Nick was a threat with Dick & Dani and you couldn't go against Dick and Dani until you undercut some of their power. The following week, Dani won HOH, and, again, Dick was GUARANTEED safety. Last week Jess won HOH, targeted Dick and Dani, Dick won POV, took off Dani and then America FORCED Eric to save Dick. This week, Dani won again, so Dick is once again guaranteed safety. So after the first week, they have held HOH 3 weeks and were targeted two other weeks, while their alliance was undercut in the remaining week. Both of the weeks they were targeted, they won POV AND America voted for the remaining one not to go. No one else has the benefit of a heart wrenching story to sell the American audience on. No one else has a vote from America due to the editing of this BS story. Jess and Eric may be working together, but with the right circumstances, Jess may be convinced to turn on Eric and Eric may have no choice but to put up Jessica. On the other hand, NO ONE is going to be able to convince Dani and Dick to evict each other. It's a combination of things...the editing of the heartwarming story, America working FOR Dick due to that story and the knowledge of ultimate safety that gives Dani and Dick an unfair advantage in the house. Unfortunately, I just don't see a way to break them up before final 4, given the circumstances.
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 11:53 pm
The other hg foolishly did not take out either Dick or Danielle when they had an opportunity.....knowing they were a solid alliance. They messed up. Eric's vote in week TWO wouldn't have made a difference if the house would have wanted one of them gone. Dustin's HOH they could have tried to get one of them out...they're a two alliance sure, but the numbers were still against them. They didn't HAVE to get Dustin out this week (although I am glad he's gone) Eric had to vote Dustin, nobody else did. They chose to get Dustin out instead, just like they have chosen to evict the ones before.
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