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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 6: Zach's Social Awkwardness: Archive through August 06, 2007 users admin

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Missy2
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07-31-2001

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missy2 a private message Print Post    
I think so people just take longer to adjusting to living with strangers and playing the game. It will hurt him in the long run but his social probs are a lot less in your face than Dick's horrible behavior.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
riverside is east :-)

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
I'm the Zach of the clubhouse. Seriously though perhaps he's just socially awkward. I am.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I think Ketchup says it best, he's "just" socially awkward. Some people are. I'd like to know what BB thought made him stand out though.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
That's me, Missy. I could not imagine living with strangers. I travel -- I pay single supplement. The ONLY time I've ever lived for any length of time with anyone was one year college roommate. And there was a guy I would have . . . but it didn't quite happen.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 12:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Color, Riverside is southern CA...about 60 miles east of LA and about 40 miles east of OC

Snee
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06-26-2001

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Snee a private message Print Post    
ketchup, you're not the zach of the clubhouse. you fit right in, and you never kill a thread (like i have..)

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 1:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Waaaay back in '60 had relatives in San Bernardino. And then they were in Hawaii for a while. And then back to San Clemente.

Calimom3
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07-12-2007

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 2:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calimom3 a private message Print Post    
Hey Pamy, I'm also in Riverside!! (wood streets)
Zach seems like he'd fit in with a group of mostly guys, ala a bar,sporting event,etc. He seems to gather courage from 'mob mentality' such as when he streaked. I bet he's the kid everyone made bets on, whether they could get him to do things... I sorta feel sorry for him, but then he picks at his nose, or says something chauvinistic, and I'm back to being creeped out by him...

Pamy
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01-02-2002

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Calimom, I read your profile and you seem like my kinda gal!!!! you will have to come to our next TVCH Meet!!! It is in Oct!!!! would love love to meet ya!

Zach actually reminds me of the kid in HS that wants so desperatly(sic, I cant spell today) to be part of the 'in' crowd that he tries tooo hard and comes off geeky to the point no one wants him around....if he would just be himself and let things flow he would prolly fit in more easily.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 3:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
ps Cali...I live off Adams by Ramona HS ( I am not familar w/wood streets, I have only been here 7 yrs, grew up and my heart is still in OC :-))

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 3:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
well, zach IS a computer nerd, you know how socially awkward us cn's are!!

pamy, when where in oct?

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 6:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
Having gone to several comic book conventions in my time, I have to say I find that like many of the misfits you might find at one of those, Zach is quite harmless and sweet. He means very well. The way these people treat him is, I think, unkind. Daniele, especially, has a very mean streak a mile wide. It's like these players never emotionally left high school.

I do wonder what CBS saw in him, though, that allowed him to make the final cast.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Bastable, I agree.

Valentine
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07-07-2005

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Valentine a private message Print Post    
This thread was interesting to me because I teach elementary students with Autism Spectrum Disorder and am currently completing my Master's thesis on the diagnosis.
The first thing I thought of when I noticed Zach's behavior is Asperger's. It is only natural when you are part of the ASD community. I also thought the same thing of Jen when she displayed a complete lack of empathy. Of course, in Jen's case it may be a complete act.
I have no thought's on Amber's constant crying because that is a completely different area!!

Brit_lusion
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06-20-2005

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brit_lusion a private message Print Post    
I always got the feeling that he was trying to pull off a "Howie" but he just couldn't live up to such a big persona and now everyone just thinks he's weird....

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 7:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
valentine, i would love to read your thesis! and i want to thank you for teaching children with autism. i love my sons teacher, she is the best best best teacher i have ever known!

i just think zach is socially awkward.

and aspergers is much more then social awkwardness.

Valentine
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07-07-2005

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Valentine a private message Print Post    
Zachsmom- I love teaching my students! Some of them can be a challenge, but as the saying goes the greater the challenge, the greater the reward.
I agree Aspergers is much more, but like I said if you know about it-it is what you first think of.
Can we figure out Amber because right now she is crying again. Why did they have to put her name on the banner!

Sagecupcake
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07-05-2007

Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 9:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sagecupcake a private message Print Post    
I too have a son with Asperger's. I thought of AS for both Zach and Jen. Zach's rock collecting along with his social awkwardness struck a chord with me. Jen's lack of empathy, self centeredness and just general lack of social graces are all aspie tendencies.

However I do think that if you look at most people you will note some AS/Autistic/PDD characteristics in them.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

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I think this is just a overanalysis of someone who just isn't like in the house and isn't going to go out of his way to be nice to people he doesn't want to be nice to. The man knows he is not liked...why is he going to put himself in the center of attention...he just wants to fly under the radar and hopefully get the attention diverted somewhere else. There is nothing rock with Zach, maybe he is just a nerd...or a dork, and frankly there is nothing wrong with that. If anyone were to analyze anyone you could find plently wrong with a person and probably (unprofessional, of course) diagnose someone with some mental disorder or disability.

Penpoint
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03-27-2001

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 12:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Penpoint a private message Print Post    
What did Zach do or say to make Jameka think he was her "enemy"?

I do not think Zach is socially awkward, particularly shy, or that he has any kind of disorder. After all, he's an events promoter! In LA! He's involved in the club scene and he's promoted himself onto this and other TV appearances. Not the profile of someone who is shy and awkward. In fact the Zach we saw in the early days of BB8 was a very different Zach than the one we see today. He was outgoing and enthusiastic and playing the game (perhaps too hard, too early) until just about everyone in the house shunned him. Anyone who is shunned in a small, closed society (such as BB8) is not going to appear particularly comfortable, and any action they take will be used by the society to further justify their shunning. Given that, he's not playing a bad game, lasting longer than expected perhaps.


Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 4:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
zach is a graphics designer not an event promoter :-)

Celticlass
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09-10-2005

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Big hugs to all you other moms of Aspie kids! In less than two weeks we will be dropping our DD off at college.

I do think it is quite intriguing that those of us that are intimate with the details of autism-spectrum behaviors seemed to have zeroed in on Zach and Jen

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 5:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
celtic, YAY for DD!!! my son isn't an aspie but does have autism.

it's difficult and rewarding being a parent of an ASD/PPD child, but i would not want my son any other way :-)

i don't want to label or assume that jen or zach have autism, but i have noticed in my everyday life the differences between 'normal' kids my sons age and those children with some traits that are quite frequent in those who are autistic. i do not think i would have noticed this had my child not been autistic.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 5:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I don't think Zach displays off the charts awkwardness at all. The person I see with severe social awkwardness is Dick (hands down)with Amber being a close second.

No one has given Zach a chance in the house except for those who have already left.