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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 6: Please put her out of her misery!!!!!: Archive through August 21, 2007 users admin

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Boberg
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10-04-2002

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 3:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
And the "blaming the victim" continues. She provoked it????

How much does someone have to sit by and take while TPTB do nothing?

Nevermind, your right, she should have continued to place nicey nice so as not to cause ED to get upset.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 3:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Jen thought she would get a reaction she didn't get and her little stunt backfired on her. I thought she was smarter than this, but apparently I was wrong. When she got the tea over the head it was the same kind of situation, she taunted and taunted until she got the reaction she hoped she would. We know she is not above lying so why go this far? She instigated this and the only thing she got out of it was a penalty nom if she happens to make it this week. She is her own worst enemy.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 3:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
Taunted and taunted???

Hmmm...didn't see that either! LOL!

Looked more like defended and defended....but whatevah!

Onlymytulips
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07-17-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 3:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlymytulips a private message Print Post    
Please put Jen out of her misery---
BB and the houseguests need to stand up to Dick. It has been a long time coming.
Jen is on abuse overload and does not deserve this kind of treatment. Enough of the horrible language and insults from Dick.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 3:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
BRAVO Onlymy!!!

I AGREE! Except put her out of her misery by FINALLY evicting EDick for abuse!

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 3:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I watched the video....

Jen was standing OVER Dick.... he kept pushing her away with his foot, she did NOT leave...she was the on who was the aggressor...she was the one who HIT him, hoping to get him to hit back...

PUH-LEASE....Jen is NOT afraid of Dick, she was pushing buttons and knew what she was going for...

Jen is NOT a poor 'lil victim here....she was the agressor and instigator... and it backfired...

If Dick had smacked Jen, TVCH would catch fire from all the flaming remarks...and the MODs would be wearing their asbestos suits full time!!!

I say boot Jen and put ME out of my misery!!!

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 4:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
Dick has been taunting and provoking this since week one.

His "truce" was self serving.

He has been breaking his truce all week with little snide under handed remarks aimed at Jen.

Jen has endured a TON of abuse from ED, for weeks on end now with BB doing almost nothing to stop it because......ratings? money??

Jen sees the favortism showed to the Donato's by BB. She had enough of the abuse and fought back finally...may not have been the most effective but she is only 23, and on slop, and has probably never experienced this kind of situation where you are locked in with an abuser and TPTB do nothing.

Yea she could have walked out the door...but she knew that would have meant that the abuser had all the control...so she tried to tough it out...she had enough.

Essence
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01-12-2002

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 4:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Essence a private message Print Post    
Question... Why was it wrong for Jameka to taunt ED and fight back with words (even if she went too far calling his mom a B....), but ok for Jen to taunt and destroy property? Is the only difference that people like Jen and not Jameka? Jameka didn't touch anyone's stuff, but she was villified over and over for her part in her and ED's argument. Jen physically destroys ED's property, gets in his face and puts her hands on him and she's the victim.

Now I'll be the first to say he deserved it, but I just don't understand the difference.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 4:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
The only thing Dick had control over during her tirade was himself.....

If ED was the person everyone thinks he is (including Jen), she would have been face down on the concrete and ED would have been in cuffs...

That didn't happen...ED is not abusive...nor do I think he's capable of hitting a female... he 's all bluff and bluster...

If Jen paid attention to anyone other than herself, she might have figured that out....and realized her scheme wouldn't work.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 4:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Caycaye,
The Donato Show?
Is it sponsored by Krispy Kremes?
If so, I'm all in.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 4:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
She made a conscience decision to stir the pot and she didn't get what she was hoping for. As Jess would say "too bad, so sad"..

I see a double standard here and if Dick had been swinging at her this would have created such an uproar that some would not be satified until he was shown the door. As long as it's the poor little abused girl she can pretty much do as she likes.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 4:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
I so agree Kep, all these people keep saying "oh he is abusive" puhleeze.... SHE is the abuser here. She is the one who was having such glee destroying his stuff, laughing and snickering while doing it. Oh, did she think he would just say "oh, ok you destroyed my smokes?" Yeah, right.

So, then she starts her crying temper tantrum when that didn't work. Then he goes to THE designated smoking area to have HER hit and slap at him while he kept saying "don't touch me" "you are going to get burned" and pushing her away w/ his foot to prevent her from hurting herself. Never ONCE did he lift a hand in reponse to her OWN abuse. Then she continues her antics going and planting her rear end smack dab in between him and Jam. But, wait ... HE is the abuser. Each time Jen has egged this on and laughed that blank eyed look she gets. Sorry, I am not buying this bridge.

Rubyroo77
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08-13-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 4:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rubyroo77 a private message Print Post    
I watched the video over and over of Jen supposedly slapping ED- I do not see where she slapped him..I heard the "slap" sound and that was jen putting down her cottage cheese and then she got up to grab the cigarette from his left hand and he moved it to his right hand.

If it were me- i would have dumped the cottage cheese on his head when he deliberately blew his cancer stick smoke in my face knowing that I despise the smell of it.

Sometimes I feel that I am living in bizarro world- where good is bad, and bad is good.

I think if I was in that house and I was told that I was not going up and then was backdoored, had to deal with the verbal assaults or witness them done to other hg's and kept quiet all this time- knowing I was leaving..I would have done the same thing- which was NO where near anything as bad as what dick has done to her! I also love the fact that she ate- good for her!

I was so sad watching during the night, though. I wished someone would have stood up for Jen..she was so alone- but I guess that is just the "empath" in me!

Sunni
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07-05-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 5:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunni a private message Print Post    
While I agree that Jen provokes and tries to irritate at every chance and that she knows what she is starting....I still say that ED's behavior and abuse are way over the top and needs to be stopped.

If she needs to stop then so does he.

That kind of behavior should not be tolerated...no matter who it's from

I think we will just have to agree to disagree on whether anyone, no matter the situation, deserves such verbal abuse and name calling. He's a natural at it...it comes way to easy for him.

Sunni
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07-05-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 5:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunni a private message Print Post    
Ruby...I was sad while watching last night also.

Can you imagine what her mother and those that love her must be feeling...to see her attacked like that, whether some feel she deserved it or not.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 5:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
Well, what about ED's mother being called a b*tch... she feel any better?

Rubyroo77
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08-13-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 5:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rubyroo77 a private message Print Post    
I know Sunni..you must be an "empath" too! You are able to put yourself in someone elses shoes(as much as possible anyway)..there were a lot of people last night that just wanted to hug her..

It has been deeply disturbing to watch a man my age talk to a woman like that NO MATTER what she has done. He has raped her verbally over and over again as well as other houseguests. Some people have said that if she shut her mouth he would stop. That does not work with Dick- he proved that last night and last week with Dustin and others- they ignored him..but he didn't stop. There is something deeply disturbing about him. If Jen had hit dick- she would be out of the house as fast as any of the others that had to leave.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 5:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
So Jen tries to destroy some of Dick's cigarettes (uh, he must have brought a bazillion cartons with him because he smokes like a chimney 24/7, so one carton means zilch). Jen walks near or sits near Dick. Jen doesn't curl up in silence like the other houseguests when Dick goes on one of his foul-mouthed rampages. Jen has endured the silent treatment by nearly ever person in that house.

Yup, she deserves to know that Dick wishes her dead. Yup, she deserves to be told by Dick, "suck my 'c'". Yup, she deserves to be told by Dick, "you got your job because you "sucked your boss'es 'c'". Yup, she deserves week after week of talk behind her back about how much she is hated by everyone. Yup, Jen deserves to be called a "c". Yup, Jen deserves everything that's happened.

For the LIFE of me, I don't believe for a millisecond that ANYONE here, female or male, would be o.k. with getting verbally abused (oh, and get some tea dumped on their head) by Dick.

I don't believe anyone would stand for that, even once, no less over and over again for weeks. I'd bet that every one of us who feels Jen has endured far more than any human being should, would be agreeable to spending time alone with her. I'd also be that every one of the Dick supporters would say they would spend time with Dick...but then again, since it isn't possible for that to ever happen, talk is cheap.

Btw, once Jen is gone (whether to the sequester house or if she walks away from the game), his disgusting behavior will just be directed at someone else. I wish Jen well in whatever happens, and admire her for her tolerance. I would have jut kicked him in the nads and faced more than a simple penalty nom.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 5:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
Don't forget Hukdonreality that Yup Jen deserves to know what ED wants to do to her anally till she bleeds.

And I think she missed hearing what ED would like to do to Jess's corpse....you know his little necrophilia fantasy.

Shopstomuch...no I don't have proof, but I would be willing to bet big money that ED himself has called his mother that and more.

I think a lot of ED's angry rants are directed at Jen because he sees so much of Danielle's "me me me" "it is all about me and how it affects me" in Jen. He can't call his daughter out on it on TV (although he has mumbled she acts like such a ) cause it would ruin the lovely father daughter reunion made directly for TV.

We have solid proof that ED's rants aren't just for game play....Danielle has said several times she has had to put up with this her whole life...yep, this is just who Dick is.

Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 5:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carrie92 a private message Print Post    
Wow, I had to be in the hospital for a few days, so I missed a bunch! Sucks that the veto was used on Amber.
But this Dick/Jen thing I'll have to watch. Did he actually use the word murder? Isn't that about the same thing that got that guy from Season 2 kicked out?

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 5:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
All I can do is just shake my head at this point... aparently, we just are not seeing the same thing here. This is like when my daughter eggs my son on to do something and then he does it and he is wrong, but she isn't... wrong is wrong period. Neither are w/o blame, yet I just don't think it's fair to say oh, well this person has said this threat or that one, yet because Eric does NOT say it to Zach but others that he will go on a murdering spree and kill him it's ok.

Sewmommy
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07-06-2004

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sewmommy a private message Print Post    
Has anyone said that she "deserved" it? They both seem in the wrong to me.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
And Shop if they had started right at the begining when Dick was threatening Jen to her face then the message would have been clear. There would be no tolerance of any type of physical threats. No matter who's mouth it came out of. The show screwed up big time this year.

I think thats what some are trying to say in regard to the early physical threats by Dick. Had they put their foot down and thrown him up on the block for making the comments it would be interesting if even Erics ( behind someones back comment) would have been tolerated.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
Just so you know Shops...Eric disgusts me also, but not for what he says behind peoples back, in my opinion he has done much worse in that house than make empty cowardly threats behind someone's back.

But this thread is about Jen and ED.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I don't know whether anyone has used the actual term, "deserved" or not. By saying that Jen egged him on and she has no one to blame but herself for Dick's venom, the meaning is clear.