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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 6: CBS' DEPICTION OF AMBER TONIGHT - MEAN OR NOT MEAN???: Archive through August 20, 2007 users admin

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Alessandro
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08-18-2007

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alessandro a private message Print Post    
I think the episode wanted us to not like Amber. There was so much of her and Jameka and nothing of Jen, except Daniele's 2 comments for her in the confessional. And when we did see Jen, she was kicking ass in the food competition. BB knows that America doesn't like Amber atm, so, I think BB is encouraging another master Eric persuasion week

I don't hate Amber though... just because she's become the new darkhorse. If Jen leaves, I'll be rooting for her and Jameka since they've been abandonned

Bidasea
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08-04-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bidasea a private message Print Post    
I'm not sure if Amber is for real or not. I do have a soft spot for her tho..Last night when she was in the backyard alone, praying, she said "OK God, I've got to go now". I had to smile and think that she is one of a kind..Got to stop praying to go inside to play quarters..:-)

Poppy
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07-21-2006

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Poppy a private message Print Post    
I smoked pot for 23 years, every day, up until 3-1/2 years ago. It may have affected my memory some, but it didn't cause me to lose the things I had learned, such as word definitions, grammar, etc. Yes, pot can be harmful, but the pot that is 40 times stronger than back in the 60s (I was only 7 years old in 1969) usually is dipped in something like formaldehyde.

Fiery - totally agree with you. Always will be a recovering addict -- pot and painkillers (taken for migraines for years). I have worked in a law firm for 26 years and don't break the law in any way anymore, except for when I drive fast (and I try not to, it just happens sometimes...LOL). I won't knock anyone for drug use -- it's a tough addiction to have.

I just think Amber is Amber - because of her upbringing and many other things. I did have to laugh last night on the show when she said she had talked to God and she knew she was going to win the veto and everything would be fine. That really tickled me.

Beruthiel
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08-07-2000

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beruthiel a private message Print Post    
I'm not faulting Amber for her addictions, I'm a nicotine addict, and not a recovering one, I still smoke, but, to get back to the original question asked:
Yes, it's mean to make fun of those with less education or natural intelligence, but they DID show her apparently making a sharp observation, which could be construed as BB making the point that a good vocabulary has nothing to do with shrewdness or native wit.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
I had a concussion and the speech area was damaged. My reasoning was intact, but for years I had trouble retrieving words as simple as something like "chair" or "water," etc. It seems to be that Amber might have something like that. It's very weird.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Beruthiel...I don't know BB motivations, but I gotta say that Amber was not rehabilitated by her "figuring out" that there was a deal struck between D/D & E/J. I really don't think Amber has come across as shrewd or whitty

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
Whether or not Amber has brain issues from drug abuse, I thought that was a relatively mild segment, given the material they have on her. Amber was portrayed as being uneducated, but willing to learn and to ask for information. This may actually work in her favour re the anti-semitic comments. There is far more that is ridiculous that they could have used- her self-delusions about being on ANTM, the many references she has made to men in the house having crushes on her, her story about scoring the best ever on the BB psych test, her constant conceited self-praise even to telling god how happy she is with what a wonderful person she is but that she is even getting better which she wouldn't have thought possible, her goal to be an inspirational speaker, etc. All of that would have made her look far worse than this segment on not knowing a lot of words, immediately followed by her shrewdly picking up on the D/D/E/J alliance. So I guess I don't think it was all that mean. It's not like they picked her worst moments to mock.

Ivory_mist
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08-31-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ivory_mist a private message Print Post    
Maybe it was just a "pick on Amber" episode....they did not have very good footage of anything else...has been kind of boring lately!

Beruthiel
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08-07-2000

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beruthiel a private message Print Post    
I don't either, Bonbon, but I DO think that BB was trying to mitigate their portrayal by using that clip of her re the E&J/D&D deal. I did use the word 'apparently,' LOL!
However, who can understand BB's motives, they're as clear as mud.

Ivory_mist
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08-31-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ivory_mist a private message Print Post    
Has Eric really won $30,000 as he thinks he has...I wonder if they tell him he has a Pass or Fail!

Kiari43
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08-25-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kiari43 a private message Print Post    
What does "motives" mean?










Just kidding

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Is there a YOUTUBE of this 'Amber & the laughtrack' bit? I only saw the last 1/2 of last night's ep. :-(

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
Beru, I was actually referring to the same thing you were - Amber's suspicion after talking with Dick wrt Dustin's eviction that Jess and Eric must have joined forces with D/D. I agree, that was pretty sharp of her.

If BB hadn't shown Amber in the DR saying "I'm always asking what words mean" and giving examples, then maybe I would have felt differently, but I really didn't find BB's editing offensive here. Amber seems very open about her weak vocab.

Some people are poor spellers, others struggle with math, some lack an artistic eye. I give Amber credit for being open about her weakness and trying to improve.

eta: i'm not a 'fan' of Amber - she is my least fave - just how i feel about this issue

Martinidreams
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08-19-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Martinidreams a private message Print Post    
Amber is a very immature person. It's obvious in the way she overreacts and gets emotional over the smallest things, and I'm sure her drug use hasn't helped her any. I don't know what her age is but she has a lot of growing up to do.
We have no way of knowing if she actually didn't understand the definition of a word or how someone used it in the game. I do think they show was picking on her though. Pay back for putting them in the position to make an official statement and have to deal with remarks that the show should have cancelled after her anti-semitic comments.

Poppy
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07-21-2006

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Poppy a private message Print Post    
Martini - I agree about if she really knows the meaning, but she is pretty up front about everything ... even when it's just too much information!

And Sharinia -- I just suck at math...LOL

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
For anyone else who missed the Amber/laff-track moment, here it is - I found it on Youtube - of course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w9R5MB76HI

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I wish I had not already erased the show. I thought the "laugh track" was only in part of the montage of clips they showed and I thought it was what was going on in the background with the other houseguests at that particular moment in time. How could I have missed this?

BigD, the laugh track was only used when they were talking about the peanut gallery and neither of them knew what it was. It was just Big Brother using the laugh track to reinforce to the audience what a peanut gallery is.

Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
Thanks MamieB I'm glad I got to watch it again.

Here is my take on the canned laughter over peanut gallery. I don't think BB was poking fun at Jameka or Amber. I think they were poking fun at us. They are saying we are the peanut gallery.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
I thought it was funny. (shrug) I mean c'mon, they are there for our amusement right? They know they are there not only to win money but to be at the mercy of the editing... etc. So as long as the editing isn't misleading, which would get my back up, it's fine. And IMHO, Amber deserves what she gets from the editing, since they are pussyfooting around her bigotry.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
I thought it was absolutely hilarious.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
if someone doesn't know what the words 'backdoor', 'sub-alliance' or 'outed' means, they should not be on big brother and have every right to be ridiculed.

i think she's faking to make people think she's not smart.

Frogichik
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06-11-2002

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frogichik a private message Print Post    
I thought it was an accurate depiction. I mean seriously, she didn't know what integrity meant!

Panda
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07-15-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
I thought it was funny-that's what you get for going on a reality show!

Asking is fine but it does seem weird she doesn't know BB terms.

Bigd
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09-13-2001

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bigd a private message Print Post    
Oh! thanks Mameblanch and Merrysea! I watched the Youtube and actually paid attention this time.

If you think about it more, Big Brother must have been questioning Amber as well as Dick and Jameka since they were very directly addressing the issues of Amber's vocabulary. I would think Amber should be able to figure out from there that she might be cast in a bad light relating at least to this vocabulary issue.

Martinideams - you made a reference to an official statement from CBS regarding Amber and the anti-semitic comments she made - I must have missed it - was there and "official" statement from CBS?

Hamsteraddict
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06-28-2005

Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hamsteraddict a private message Print Post    
I don't remember where I saw it, but there was an instance where Amber was talking to Jameka and commenting that she just figured out that Dick's t-shirt said "Evil Doer". She wondered if Jameka realized it was "do-er" instead of "doe r". She thought it was "doe" as in "female deer". Jameka acted surprised, too ... like perhaps she never realized it was really "do-er".

Great minds, these two.