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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 5: Dustin and Amber's Dog Conversation: Archive through August 03, 2007 users admin

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Marameko
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07-15-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
You bring up a valid point Spangs,I dare say his children are accomplished even though they were brought up in wealth and with Dr.Cosby in their lives.I am not making excuses for his behavior which is something best left between he and his wife.I remember seeing him make comments on this topic and agreeing on the spot.

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
I don't know if this has been brought up or not, but there is something else that I find very disturbing about this incident.

I believe he sullied his friends and families reputations w/ that statement, whether he was joking or not.

For the life of me, I cannot imagine going to someone's house and having to either A. call the dog that name to stop it from jumping on me, and B. listening to him or anyone else calling the dog that name and not be disturbed by it.

I would just have to get up and leave the house, wonder what the hell this person is thinking, and try to have little as possible to have anything to do w/ him or the people he associates with.

Guilt by association, basically.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 1:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Although he called him that on occasion, I don't think he named the dog "N". It's not like he goes around calling the dog that all the time.

(Not defending him at all. Just stating what I understand to be the facts. The fact that he used the word even once, disgusts me.)

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 1:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
And how do you know he doesn't go around calling the dog that all the time? Do you know him personally?

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
our male dog likes to hump our other male dog, I wonder what Dustin would think if I referred to our dog as the F word.

Spangs
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10-07-2005

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spangs a private message Print Post    
And I hear you Grooch on wondering just how his friends and family react to this. The way that he and Amber laughed off the fact that both their dogs hate black folks just turned my stomach.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
As you well know Mocha, I do not know him personally nor do I wish to know him personally. I was relying on his comments on the show as we all are when discussing these people. I understood that he said it isn't the dog's real name.

He could also call his dog Santa Claus for all I know.

(Sigh - I'll again put in my disclaimer that I am not defending him.)

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
You're not defending him but sounds like you're justifying him Jimmer. And fact, how would I know if you don't know him personally or not? I don't know who you know in real life just like you don't know who I know in real life.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
there were 3 parts of his and ambers statements that bothered me

Dustin calls his dog N •••••

I don't care if he said it once or a thousand times. it's disgusting. the fact that he calls her n**** just because she is black appalls me.

and cant believe she is prejudice against her own kind...

referring that his dog doesn't like black people. the fact that likens black people to his dog is the worst thing EVER said in the BB house.

him and amber laugh how both of their dogs hate black people

disgusting. it's funny to hate black people? their behavior is just vile beyond belief.

Spangs
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10-07-2005

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 3:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spangs a private message Print Post    
You're right Zachsmom, it very well can be construed that he equates a black dog as somehow being negro....SICK

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 3:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I am not justifying him Mocha. I am stating what I know about him based on what he has said during his stay at BB. There is a huge difference.

In my previous post I stated that the fact that he used the word even once, disgusts me.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 4:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Ok so he said he doesn't call the dog that all the time? I'd like to see a transcript of the conversation though.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 4:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
saying it once or all the time doesnt matter to me....I never say that word and I have never heard Bill(DH) say it either. We have never said it jokingly either.

That word is the most vile word in the world.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 4:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
Mocha, I read the archives...it happened early Saturday morning. I think there's a link somewhere in this thread, but I wanna say around 1:00. (Don't count on it, I've got CRS)
I understood that he said he called it that, not necessarily that it was the dog's name, and that it hated its own kind. As you said earlier, it's still wrong! I grew up during the civil rights period, and remember how hard we fought to make a change in people's thinking, attitudes, and words, and it blows me away to hear stuff like this still happens in 2007. Whether it's gay-bashing, race crimes, or discrimination of any kind, it's been 40+ years people! My generation was supposed to break the cycle...what happened?

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 4:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Thx Blue.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 5:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
are we the only site talkin about it?? Does Jokers/CBS boards or Sux, etc have threads on it??

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
Pamy, I laughed at your post about your dog humping. I have a dog named Digger. When he was a puppy, he was constantly being a door bolter and running to the flower beds to dig up "kitty treats"

There are lots of other names you can name a black dog....I had one named Blackjack.

I've never liked Dustin, and Amber is a follower. Id doesn't matter what is said, she's gonna laugh at it or cry about it....just like Jamika is gonna say UmHmmmmmmmm

Caligirlinga
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08-25-2005

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 7:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caligirlinga a private message Print Post    
Someone posted Dustin and Amber's conversation on my website; I came here to verify it yesterday and couldn't find anything in the LF posts from Friday night/Saturday morning; so, I was going to delete her post today until I saw this thread.

As a black female, I have to say to all of those who posted comments about "us" saying it amongst "ourselves" and to "each other" - NOT ME! NOT MY HUSBAND! AND NOT MY KIDS (24, 17 and 14 years old). I don't allow it, condone it, or accept it. So please know, there are some black people who have enough sense to know how ugly and hateful that word is.

Should Dustin be called out by the producers about it? YES! Has this thread created enough discussion for it (the word) to go away? NO! Should we continue the discussion? YES! Maybe it will cause enough dialouge to get the word out - N* is dead and gone - leave it buried!!

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Really good post, Caligirl.

I agree that Dustin should be called out by the producers. I'm starting to think no one of the BB PTB cares. :-(

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
using that work has gotten many a radio host in trouble and some have lost their job. so, why is Dustin not being treated the same? he should not get paid for being on BB from that moment forward.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Is there still no video clip of this conversation?

Holly
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06-19-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Is there ANY proof that it happened? Seems strange that something this controversial would slip under the radar.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
Holly, go here.

it's the house happenings discussion thread at the time it happened.

i have been trying to download the all day video but my internet connection keeps timing out.

Holly
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06-19-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Thanks, ZM :-)

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 7:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
i saw this on jokers feeds at 1:27am:

Dustin in HT telling story of while in HS, he and friends dressed up
as "black people", and went and "tp'd" 2 people each night all 4 yrs of HS


i tried looking in current hgs discussion thread here at tvch, but it looks like everyone was watching dick and eric talking at that time.

wondering how many other comments dustin has made about black people that are not shown on the feeds?