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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 5:41 pm
Wow....sorry to offend... I wasn't speaking to anyone in particular....but I do NOT like the way that EDick treats women (as far as I have seen it) and the other day when talking to Zach, Mike expressed the same thoughts...and I could have HUGGED Mike when he said that. Mike says that EDick didn't treat women the way that Mike was raised to treat them...and I just happen to agree.... I don't hate everything about Dick...in fact, at times I can see his sweetness and his good points too...I was just stating my opinion on what DICK needs to "work on" in HIS personality....and, being perfectly honest, doesn't EDick express his views of everyone's character to them, and what they need to do to IMPROVE??? Turnabout is fairplay, as they say!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 5:46 pm
i dont know. This show is really about fans having fun dissecting every word, every glance, trying to get into the person's psyche based on what we see. I'd like to think no one is being maneuvolent(sp) in their opinions as we are just stating our impressions based on our experiences in life, and how we interpret scenes we see on feeds. For instance, I have a bit of a bias against Dick for the way he leaned into Kail and jen when he was verbally attacking them (or in his words..."just being honest with them") When someone leans in to me spewing angry words like that, I figure I might get slugged. I see it as an extremely aggressive act, one step down from assault. But that is just me Based on my experiences.
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 6:07 pm
I agree, SUNSHYNE, and you are absolutley right, that our OPINIONS are based on our own experiences.... I always say to my family, and they agree....I am the WORST judge of character in a "first impression" of someone, and even after I have seen them a few times in a "surfacy" way....I am always wrong, it seems in trusting the wrong people, and mistrusting the wrong people... But I KNOW, and my family agrees, that I am an "observer" of people, and when I have a good chance to watch people interact with others, I usually can pick the honest ones perfectly and call out their "character"....That's why I like BB so much...I love to observe the "hamsters" to figure out who is what! That's why I give my opinion and love to read others's opinions, and argue points, and give "concessions" to better opinions (in my estimation, LOL)... than mine That's all the fun of it...speculation!
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 7:23 pm
Ahh, ok, Cricket. Sorry I thought it was directed at me. Costa: Haha. You win at life.
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Alliet
Member
07-11-2005
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 7:28 pm
The disrespectful way ED talks about women and sex, the name calling where Jen is concerned (not to mention Jess, Jameka & Kail) is horrendous. If he doesn't hate women he certainly has absolutely no understanding or respect for them. Look at the shambles that is his relationship with his daughter. And, of course, he gets on with his son. Did you hear what Daniele was telling Nick about what her brother is like?!
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 10:08 pm
Naturally I can't remember where now, and there maybe even be a link to it earlier in this thread, but somewhere and sometime just before BB began, I read an absolutely rabid diatribe against women. I mean, it almost scared me. I for sure didn't want to meet this person. I was shocked to find out the author of the diatribe was going to be a player in BB8. It might have been posted at Sucks, or there might have been a link to it at Sucks. At any rate, it was some eye-opening reading. And need I say the author was a person who called himself Evel [sic] Dick?
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:00 pm
JuJu, you haven't been reading this entire thread. It is perfectly acceptable for a man to consider all women to be bi*ches. That doesn't mean he doesn't like them. He is just being honest and open and telling it like it is!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:14 pm
okay, I wasnt going to go there. But after seeing a Camera person doing a closeup on ED's crotch...here goes. I'm inspired. Okay, you have a wellendowed guy with a degrading view of women....What is the surprise? thru the years I'm sure that Dick has been used and abused by women, some whom he loved, others who were probably using him for sex....same as he was using them. It is my opinion that Men who are extremely promiscuous go two ways...1- they either love all women and everything about women/ or 2- they have anger against women and want to lower them down to 'sexual' sl*ts and Tw*ts etc. Look at the language Dick uses. No doubt which end of the spectrum he sits.
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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:19 pm
Ok folks please stop using symbols to get around the red dot filter. If it's going to be filtered don't use it in any fashion.
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Kswheels
Member
06-30-2005
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:22 pm
In my defense Lance, I was literally referring to a female dog. But, point taken.
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Jeannie23
Member
07-16-2007
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:29 pm
I think both Dick and Kail act like bullies. Kail tries to cover it up a little better but I see it and controlling natures in both of them and I don't like it.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:31 pm
i have a question then. How does anyone do live feed posts? Or in my case Screencaps....without being able to accurate portray how vile some of the comments are? some feedback would be helpful
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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:35 pm
Live feed posts are different than us discussing. They are a record of what is happening in the house. Any comments about the game made in that area are removed. We can discuss what they say with quotes to make a point, but people are using red dotted words as part of their posts. You can say other woman and not say the "B" word or any other red dotted words to make your point.
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Jeannie23
Member
07-16-2007
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:37 pm
I wonder too Sun and also, if many hg's are cursing up a storm, how are the live feed posters able to type what's really being said?
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 12:19 am
thx lance.
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 7:52 am
Now me, I personally think that this is way more offensive to women (or way more debatable) than someone that swears or calls names IMO. From live feeds: Zach finally says Man you are like my girlfriend, I should just hit you one (and he pretends to swing his fist)
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Forum_moderator
Moderator
01-01-2004
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 9:58 am
We are going to repeat this. Please stop using symbols to get around the red dot filter. If it's going to be filtered don't use it in any fashion. The only exception to this is in the Live Feed posting area and within reason, when directly quoting a HG. Some posts have been removed. Please note that discussing moderation in a thread is also against the rules (which we are sure you read and agreed to when you signed up). Thank you!
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Penpoint
Member
03-27-2001
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 10:43 am
It seems to me that Dick's attitude toward women is really irrelevant because his overall attitude toward people generally is mean-spirited. Sure, he uses a form of charm to get his way, but he also uses intimidation with people and says he's just being truthful. There is an underlying anger, vindictiveness, and sourness in his attitude toward life, which we are seeing more clearly as this Big Brother game progressses and throws challenges in Dick's way. He doesn't handle opposition well and he's not even a very good winner--arrogance and know-it-all superiority take over. Dick is obviously a very unhappy man who has not had positive personal relationships. He's been fun to watch for the first few weeks, but the more I see, the more I find distasteful. He's a real danger in this game to the other HGs, and they would have been wise to have heeded Jen's and Kail's warnings. What was it that Daniele said about her father--that he was a friend, but a mean friend. And that pretty well sums up his attitude toward women . . . and men.
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Jeannie23
Member
07-16-2007
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 10:57 am
I agree Pen but I'm hoping Dick stays around long enough to get rid of Kail or influence others to get rid of her. I'm just thinking of the season all the Sov's had the chance to get rid of Maggie and didn't and look what happened. After Kail's gone, then Dick should go.
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Crazy
Member
06-12-2006
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 2:44 pm
Penpoint, I agree. I wondered about that statement when Dani said it. Now that I have seen Dick on the feeds, I know exactly what she meant. I also keep in mind what his son said about the problem between them. I can't quote it word for word, but something to the effect that his Dad did not handle it the right way when Dani would not pay back money she borrowed. I understand this completely now. Dani should pay back the money and I could understand Dick getting upset that she didn't. But if the way he is acting on the show is any indication of how he is in life, I would remove myself from the verbal abuse. I have nothing against being honest and open. I do have a problem with trying to belittle people. However, that being said, that problem being for people in my life, not this game. This game has no rules on this kind of behavior. So I guess all is fair. Good luck to them all and I'm not sure if Dick hates women or not, but I would agree that he likes to hear himself talk.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 2:57 pm
stacey, and others. I was the one who caught that little quote with Zach. I wrote as he talked but I am not sure he meant he hit his girlfriend. Dick kept talking over him until Zach said he was like his girlfriend....a few times it was said. I would like to think that zach meant he would have to hit Dick to get him to shut up as a joke...and that it just happened to be after he made yet another 'girlfriend' comment. Just a theory. If the long debate was youtubed maybe someone else can give their view of the comment by the way, I thought Dick did not do much of badmouthing the women with Zach. Zach tried to nip any of the 'usual' comments in the bud by reminding Dick that he sounded judgemental.
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 3:15 pm
Thanks Sunshyne I don't have the live feeds and always appreciate reading them, but I know things typed can sound different. I hope that it wasn't intended that way or heard that way. Cause that is way more blatant to me than the name calling. I was shocked more didn't react to it. So maybe I just read it wrong. I will see if I can witness it on you tube. I am not saying that I think Dick is some hero of a guy. I just think he is really politcally incorrect not some deep seeded serial killer out to eliminate my gender. You either like him or ya roll your eyes at him. Off to find youtube.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 3:16 pm
They were talking for over an hour. it might be hard to find a clip of the right part. happy hunting
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 4:37 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFSedR4GXk8 here is part one of "tension" and yes Zach does say it like he hits women (eek!) Hamsterwatch has a great collection of Youtube etc.
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 5:47 pm
Holy cow, see now that is way more of a debate and issue than name calling to me. I am surprised that more are not bothered by that. Thanks sunshyne that made it very clear to me!
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