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Nutsy
Member
08-14-2001
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:18 am
It's strategic for Eric to get rid of Dustin, and become the leader of that group.
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:20 am
Actually, I do think it would be strategic on Eric's part if not the LNC. Dustin may have saved him but Dustin only did it to keep the numbers. Very soon those numbers are NOT going to favor Eric and Jessica and he needs to start thinking about that too. It'll mean a little more work each week because there won't be a guaranteed voting block against one person but it's better to be going into the end with smaller alliances and floaters because then you'll have more of a fighting chance. Especially after everything that happened last week. Amber will be harder to flip to his side so she'll definitely stick with Dustin over him.
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:21 am
And, yes, what Nutsy said too. If he got rid of Dustin this week, he at least has more people to blame it on/a reason for doing it and, even if the LNC gets pissed at him, they'll still need him for the numbers. After this week, he's likely to be stuck with Dustin unless someone else in their alliance turns on him too.
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Oddsygirl
Member
07-11-2006
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:32 am
I did not have a problem with Eric until he opened the envelop of who to vote for on the Nick/Kail vote and started lecturing the American public on not playing the game how he wanted to play it. He is America's player, he knows he is not his own player, so what he needs to do is be more like Jessica. He should not be the person who is lobbying to get someone nominated unless he has been told to get that person nominate by the American public. Since he has made the choice to ignore what he has been told to do, I have chosen to vote for what ever makes it harder to stay in the game. If that gets him out of the game, so what. He is not America's player.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:59 am
lying to win is part of the game so I would not hold that against him, but he's not my favorite hg for sure, not my least favorite either. Hope he apoligizes to Dani for the awful things he said about her. You know they always do at the end of the show.
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Wavelength
Member
07-25-2007
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:17 am
Kep you are exactly right!! I can't believe we are missing the chance to play an intelligent game and get him to the end. Lying is part of the game and every year we talk constantly about integrity. It is not a game that has any and we should all face that fact. JMPO also.
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Princessdoubt
Member
07-04-2007
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:49 am
Just a thought...I'm not sure if anyone has asked this before. (and now, I'm not saying that Eric hasn't lied about other things...but...) When Eric goes into the DR to "vote" on voting day, if he doesn't actually say "I vote to evict..." is it a lie when he tells the house that he did not cast those votes? Can he in all honesty by the end of the game swear up and down that (due to the fact that AMERICA is voting) that he didn't vote for anyone...ever...anyone especially, on the jury? (sorry about the run on sentences ;))
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:54 am
Again, Wavelength, it depends on how you are looking at the concept of America's player. Clearly you look at him a chess piece that you want to be able to say you helped get checkmate on the others in the game. However, I look at him as my vessel to having a say in the house. If I always vote in the way Eric wants or in the way he has forced me to (by his choice of alliances, etc.), then I don't actually get a say... I'm just helping one of the HG win and, quite frankly, I only want to do that if the HG is my favorite and Eric isn't.
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Cousin_jake
Member
07-04-2002
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 10:01 am
I agree totally Raenstorm. I'm not voting to help Eric, I'm voting to express to him what I want him to do. He should have clued in three weeks ago and modified his behaviour. He's got himself into a bit of a box right now, and it's HIS doing. He didn't listen and just wanted us to vote in a way that helped him advance in the game. Un - un! I want him to vote and lobby for the players that I like, not the ones he likes. We have our vote on the jury now - he can leave the game with my blessing!
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Chicogirl
Member
07-23-2007
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 10:02 am
Princessdoubt, no he is being honest in THAT respect. Julie has said, he has no choice in his vote. His vote goes how WE want it to, not how he wants. I had trouble with his comment about if we would do it how HE wants, it would make it easier on him. His job is to be our player, if he would stop and pay attention he may just realize that we see and hear a whole lot more than he does. We know that they are talking about him behind his back, and that Dustin really did make a deal with ED. I lost any real respect for him with the Amber thing, that showed me his true colors.
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Wavelength
Member
07-25-2007
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 10:19 am
Chicogirl you make a really good point that we know more than him. I'm just wondering if the people who are texting and voting for his tasks and votes are watching the feeds or BB after dark. If not they are basing their votes on what they see on the show which is extremely edited. Just a thought.
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Fitzmefine
Member
08-31-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 10:28 am
I don't watch anything except the show and even I know that the way America is voting is hurting Eric. They seem to be doing everything they can to get Eric caught and voted out. I just don't get it. BB may not have set up the AP very well, but it's not Eric's fault. He's trying to win the game also and America seems to be intent on causing him nothing but trouble with the other HG. If I were him, I would have refused to do several of the "tasks" that viewers voted for. I would rather win the $500,000 than the $10,000 increments. JMO
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Chicogirl
Member
07-23-2007
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 10:29 am
Wavelength, I don't know about everyone, but mine is based on BBAD and what goes on there. I had the feeds last year, but this computer just doesn't like them this year. There are some that only watch the show, and go off that. I'm sure that's why we had 3 weeks of Jen and Kail on the block.
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Backslider
Member
08-09-2007
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 10:31 am
I've read a lot of the comments for many days (weeks) about whether people are trying to "help" Eric, intentionally harm him, or just vote how they feel. To me, it's clear that most people that read, enjoy, and contribute to these threads (people who I'd consider to be the biggest BB fans) would be really awful at the game. Too many of you care way too much about who you "like". This game isn't about liking other people or being liked. It's about finding the best strategy to avoid being sent out of the house. I could care less if I like Eric or not. I can still formulate what I consider to be his best strategy, based on the way the game is being played. <93>
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 11:21 am
It's a good thing I vote for my personal entertainment because I really couldn't care less about strategic bragging rights in a game that is based so much on luck. Or a game that, according to some people, is supposed to be unfair anyway. Besides, where's the challenge in formulating the best strategy when you have the advantage of seeing what everyone else is plotting?
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 11:25 am
Eric is "America's Player", to me that means he's supposed to be playing for us, doing what we want. He's supposed to be our puppet, isn't he? I think a lot of us TV viewers are not happy with the LNC and do want Dustin out, not to mess with Eric's game, but because that's who we'd vote out if we were in the house.
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Backslider
Member
08-09-2007
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 11:35 am
I never considered him my puppet. I've treated it as if I was playing along with him (with more information, as has been pointed out). I will vote for Eric to evict Dustin if I think it is the correct move for him in the game. <93>
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Bastable
Member
07-09-2002
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 11:39 am
I never saw him as our puppet, either. He has to do three things a week if he wants money, but our control over him is by no means complete. We get three tasks a week, period, and he controls his own behavior the rest of the time.
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Napa1526
Member
07-14-2007
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:14 pm
If he wasn't AP I wonder how many people would like him. As far as his game play...he has not had much....with or without our voting. The whole AP concept has been a huge flop...I think CBC has realized that...I don't think we will see it next season (IF there is a next season). And just because I don't agree with Eric and don't "play" for him....my strategy inside the house would have been totally different from his. And I don't believe my game play would be bad. You'd think after watching this show for so many years people would learn something about how to play the game. Personally I think Zach is playing a pretty smart game....stay out of the limelight and don't attach yourself at the hip to someone...thus...you are NO threat. He is kind of fading into the woodwork!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:08 pm
Napa, I don't like him and haven't from the first. Something about him just bugged me. However, since he's been AP and since he's consistently thumbed his nose at doing what America votes (except for the all important eviction vote), I like him even less. After the bit last Thursday when Amber went off on him, and then he was coached by BB, and ended up staying, well, let's just say he's one of my least favorite players of all time!!! So, I didn't really like him before. I like him even less now. I'm pretty sure that wouldn't have changed, even with AP, since it's his mouth I'm not impressed with.
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Mssas
Member
08-04-2006
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:34 pm
Too many of you care way too much about who you "like". This game isn't about liking other people or being liked. It's about finding the best strategy to avoid being sent out of the house. My strategy may not be your strategy. I say we agree to disagree then we'll all be happy. I never liked Eric very much either and now I don't like him at all. I think if he'd kept his mouth shut more and done what America chose for him to do then more people would of liked him. In my opinion he's dug his own grave and I hope he's finally getting the message that we won't tolerate what he's doing.
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:33 pm
Not an Eric fan but have not been bothered by his actions as "America's player" I am curious to see how this one goes though. He despises ED and my guess is America is going to have him vote for Dustin. There is a part of me that wonders if he would be able to complete this task.
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Nutsy
Member
08-14-2001
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:50 pm
Stacey - he doesn't have a choice when it comes to the vote. His DR visits on eviction night are all for show and his vote is cast as America wishes.
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Faith356
Member
08-24-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 6:07 pm
I, personally, would like to see Dick as America's Player. That would make for interesting TV!
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:11 pm
Yes, Nutsy, sorry I was not clear, his vote will be to evict. I guess I meant will he try to work the crowd against Dustin. He really can't stand ED.
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