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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 8:51 am
Am I the only one who thinks Dick has a real problem with respecting women; indeed does not like, maybe even hates them? Not only in his personal life is it the women not the men who he has trouble with, but in the house the terms he uses, the language he uses and the attitude he shows towards the women in there is always sarcastic, nasty and degrading, unless there are doing what he wants at any given moment. But if they cross him, his venomous attitude is almost overwhelming. It's like he cannot see anything from their perspective -- they are to be treated with contempt for the stupid, lying bi*ches he constantly calls them. I do not see the same tone, name calling or attitude shown towards any of the men in the house.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:06 am
First of all we don't really know if he has a problem with Danielle, or she him, it could be just game. He has had a problem with Kail and Jen. His thing with Kail is about game and her campaign to get rid of him while telling him something different. His loud complaint about Jen was her inconsideration of him when he was sleeping. I don't see at all that he hates women. If one of the men pulled the same things on him that those two women did I believe he would do the same to them.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:08 am
Thank you EM. I came in here and was afraid I couldn't respond to that with the eloquence that you did.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:16 am
This will shock many of you...heh, heh..not! I felt the same pretty quick. Sometimes the parent you dislike the most is whom you actually become. He definitely has a problem with women being strong or in a position of authority. He doesn't realize it (or maybe he does) he's just like the mother he describes. He is very rigid in what's acceptable behavior, even criticizing the way Amber walks in front of everyone, and yet he doesn't see that his behavior is unacceptable. He's letting the women ruin his game because of this. Last week it was Jen and this week it's Kail.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:18 am
We will see after the vote tonight whether it's ruining his game. Personally I don't think it is.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:25 am
Dick has a very large fan base of women of all ages. I think if he was perceived by the majority of the viewers as a woman hater he wouldn't be so well liked. Many times people are perceived as something they are not by the personal agendas of the perceiver. When Gerry was perceived as a pervert by some people on this board, based on nothing more than a comment from Lisa, all the comments were prefaced by thier unhappy past experience with someone who made them uncomfortable. None of the assumptions about him were backed up with facts.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:29 am
It is not that he gets angry or frustrated with them -- it is how he expresses it. He may be very justified in his reaction, but his words and his tone when he talks about them or to them that betrays his deeper feelings about them. And it is not much better when he talks about women in general. And one seldom if ever hears the same language or tone when he talks about or to the guys. I understand if some feel that people's words and their tone do not reflect true feelings, but I have always thought they do, especially when it flows so easily and naturally from the person's mouth. And no, I do not believe that each time he calls a woman stupid or a bi*ch or sarcastically patronizies her that it is a calculated move in an overall well thought out game strategy.
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Dfng
Member
08-04-2005
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:30 am
Earthmother... well said. I've heard Dick call out the men when possible but the problem is that it's the women who are putting themselves out there game wise and on a personal level as well. The men are sleepers at this point.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:33 am
I do think he has issues with women and is on the misogynstic side. MHO.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:33 am
Read his blog on his myspace page, specifically the one entitled: 'Are all chicks completely f****** nuts" www.myspace.com/eveldick I think that will answer your question, What!
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Scotchbright
Member
10-05-2006
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:37 am
If I were in the house, I think I would be hiding out from Evel Dick so as to not get on his 'bad' side. I know he has a good heart - but I just wouldn't want to be the person he doesn't like at the moment (be it male or female).
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:38 am
I think we have to remember that this is a game. One of the tools of this game are to point out the weakenesses of the other players. If the women in this house put themselves in this position then they need to learn how to play. They walk right into it and then cry that they become a target of him. This is how he came into this game and it's how he has chosen to play it. I would never profess to know that this is how he is in real life. Acting is part of how you get farther in this game. Making up stories and circumventing the truth or out and out lying is also part of this game. If I were in that house I would target the same two that Dick is targeting, they set themselves up. I would also say crap about the guys easily to get the girls on my side so I'd have some support in the future. Dick is saying what every man in that house is thinking and it gives him the edge. They want to keep him so he can take the heat for them. All it does for me is to make the others look like p***eys for not speaking up and makes me like Dick more.
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:39 am
I agree with Cricket. In fact I said pretty much the same thing earlier today in the House Happenings thread: Dick likes to give off this open, off the wall cool non-conformist image but he's really a rigid guy with narrow views about acceptable behaviour. And he's sure that he's right and feels justified in judging others in a way that he himself refuses to be judged. I'm willing to bet that he's a LOT like his mother! Dick is interesting because he wants the approval of women and constantly hangs around them but even a hint of rejection and he gets upset. Jameka corrected a comment he made about starving people in Africa to say that there were starving people in other parts of the world and he couldn't let it drop. It was really a minor thing- I heard the original comment- but yesterday he hammered that one into the ground when he was talking with her, he was so concerned about defending himself. I don't think he has it in for Kail and Jen because they are liars in the game. I think he has it in for Jen because she is a really good looking woman who insulted him. Kail to him is the epitome of the older uptight woman- just like his Mom- who has always disapproved of him. This should not surprise him because the way he dresses and his vulgarity are calculated to offend people like Kail. His persona creates the reaction that fuels and justifies his anger at women. I'm not that cynical about Dick- I think he does play up his estrangement from Dani for sympathy but the emotion is real. Yet at the same time he loves it when he is in a position of power over women such as when he was bragging last night about making many cocktail waitresses cry and not giving a f**k about it. Many of his stories are about his conquest of women sexually or how he put one in her place. Dick is a basically unhappy person with unresolved mother issues who is always got to show off and lecture people because he needs the validation and feeling of power. I think he's too old to change, but I'd love to see him gain some insight into himself while in the house. I actually voted 10 times for Eric to vote Joe out, but really if Dick keeps on belching into my ear when I'm wearing headphones, I may be sorry about that!
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:42 am
Yeah, but Earthmother, if Dick is playing a game and we shouldn't judge him because it might be an act, shouldn't that same attitude be applied to Jen? She's been raked over the coals.
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Yoda
Member
08-11-2005
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:42 am
Well said Kmjm
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:46 am
Dick is a basically unhappy person with unresolved mother issues who is always got to show off and lecture people because he needs the validation and feeling of power. I don't think that anyone should make that statement without knowing his past. He has his beliefs and he has no problem saying what they are. I would much rather be in the company of someone who says what he thinks than someone who pretends to agree with me when they really don't. In the scheme of life his comment on his myspace page makes sense to me. Men don't understand women and vice versa..it's that Mars/Venus thing. That to me does not equate to being a woman hater, it means he doesn't understand women. I personally can attest to the fact that I don't understand men either. I live with 3 men and constantly say "WTF were they thinkin?"
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:50 am
The issue I have with Dick is that his game/strategy is to call out and belittle hgs (Jen and Amber) whose game play/behavior he does not consider appropriate. I cannot wait until someone in that house has the nerve to call him out for his game play and behavior. I don't think Dick has issues with women specifically- I think he has issues with people in general, especially people who are contrary to the way he thinks.
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Oddsygirl
Member
07-11-2006
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:51 am
I think that with most of the men not doing any game playing, to make a statement based on two weeks about how someone feels about a whole section of the population is wrong. Dick's calling out and remarks that have been directed towards Kail and Jen have been in reaction to remarks and actions taken by themselves. Just because he is male and they are female, does not make them exempt from having their behavior reacted to. It is so easy to make judgements about others, but that does not mean they are correct.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:52 am
I don't think Dick has a dislike or hatred for WOMEN. I think he has a dislike for Kail and Jen, based on how they've played the game and how they've treated HIM. I think if any of the guys had done something as stoopid as Jen (the "don't touch me" plus the waking people up to talk thing), he'd be all over that guy, too.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:54 am
I haven't judged Jen on anything except that she is self-absorbed. I have not said that Dick isn't loud and jugemental. I just don't agree that he hates women. I disagree that he has it in for Jen because she spurned him, more that she made a comment during a competition that she didn't want an old man touching her. My contention is that she assumed he wanted to touch her and he pretty much told her he didn't. Not because she's not pretty, but because she is self-absorbed. They were both saying what they thought and her comment embarrassed him (as it would anyone else) and his comments to her embarrassed her (as it should have). He did not go after her for those comments, he went after her and told her she was inconsiderate when she came into HIS bedroom while HE was sleeping and had a loud conversation with herself to annoy him and wake him up. She asked for it and I for one will not assume he hates women because he called her on it.
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Oddsygirl
Member
07-11-2006
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:56 am
Very Well Said, Earthmother
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I_wings
Member
12-22-2006
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:59 am
Are all chicks completely f****** nuts" I agree ... and I'm one of them 
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:59 am
If anyone stands up to Dick so be it. If he deserves it he should be called on it. I can't blame him if no one has the guts to do it. He can only control his game. I can't tolerate the "waaaa, waaaaaa, waaaaa" way of handling things. "put on your big girl panties and stand up to him, but stop crying like little babies when he calls you out." If that's the way they want to play the game that's their problem.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:02 am
quote:Dick is a basically unhappy person with unresolved mother issues who is always got to show off and lecture people because he needs the validation and feeling of power.
And you know this how? You don't know what his relationship is really like with his daughter, or his mother. Sorry, blanket statements that do a psych eval on someone you see on TV kinda bother me. You don't KNOW any of this. You can only make a guess by extrapolating out WHAT YOU SEE. Without knowing the facts, you cannot make an actual diagnosis. Personally, I think he loves women!
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:02 am
Well Earthmother, we'll just have to accept that we see things very differently. I grew up with 3 brothers and live with my teenaged son and husband and I don't think Dick's MYspace comments about women are typical for most men. I found them to be very disturbing. To me they show that he has some deep seated problems with women. Knowing that his mother is a very conservative minister and he is so flamboyantly antagonistic to that kind of lifestyle tells me he has issues with it. I'm trying to find reasons for what I consider to be really domineering and offensive behaviour on Dick's part. I think saying he has some inner turmoil he is trying to deal with is a lot more sympathetic to him than if I had just written him off as an obnoxious a-hole.
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