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Jeannie23
Member
07-16-2007
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 10:12 am
I've only seen Kail since the show started and had an immediate reaction to her. It comes close to loath. She is way too smug and bossy. She needs to go right now.
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 10:23 am
I didn't say she lied. I said she left out important details of their conversation, which is what he said. (Note: I don't know if he's said she lied in other conversations. In the convo I saw him having with Kail wherein he mentioned his mother, it was about her not telling the whole story.) I don't actually have an issue with Kail (well, her own self-admitted intolerances aside). She was playing the game and doing what she felt she had to do to get someone who is a threat to her out of the house. I don't particularly love Dick (heh, sorry 13 yr old me peeking her head out). I'm not really sure that he overreacted or not. Clearly it pissed him off because it's one of his pet peeves but, in the end, he also did what he had to do counteract her. He openly called her out on what she was doing in order to stop it from being as damaging. (Being loud and confrontational and making the house uncomfortable in that way is damaging, true, but so is having someone going around whispering in everyone's ear about you. Sometimes you pick the damage you think will be easier to fix.) I hate confrontation. I'd hate having to deal with Dick on a 24/7 basis but that doesn't mean I don't think he has a right to confront someone who is trying to undermine him in the game. To bring this back on-topic, I don't love or hate either of these houseguests. However, I don't think it's fair to use Dick's dislike of Kail to prove that he hates all women when, AT MOST, all we could conclude is that Dick reacts strongly to women who do something he hates (picking and choosing what details they want to tell about a story/convo/etc) because his mother used to do it to him.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 10:57 am
I just don't care to be around people who use "telling the truth" and being "upfront" as battering rams. That's how I see Dick. Maybe he isn't so self-righteous and preachy in IRL, but I'm guessing that, to some extent, he is. Is he mysogynistic? Dunno, but he sure acts like he has anger issues.
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Outlawout
Member
07-28-2005
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:04 am
I would say Kail's dislike of Dick is far more knee jerk and intense than his for her. I mean once she saw the chance to get rid of him she was nearly crazed in her campaign to oust him, to her detriment in the house. I'd say his feelings about her at this point are more a reaction to the way she's been toward him. I thought he tried to build bridges with her intially, trying to bond as parents, but she couldn't see past his tats.
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Yoda
Member
08-11-2005
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:13 am
I don't think she cares for him but I think she went after him because she sensed he and Dani were together AND because she was told he was coming after her (it was a lie but coming from someone she thought she was aligned with).
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:14 am
Very good post, Raen. I agree. I, too, don't know if Dick hates ALL women, but I do see him and Kail not getting along because he sees in her some of the things his mother does. By being so 'upfront' as Puzzled stated, I feel his is alienating some in the house. No one wants to deal with someone like that 24/7. He probably bothers the women in the house more than the men, so it will depend on who stays and who goes as to whether it will really come back to haunt him. Outlawout, again..that goes back to Nick telling Kail Dick wanted her out of the house. She was shocked and totally played it wrong.
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Cndeariso
Member
06-28-2004
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 11:29 am
i don't think Dick hates women. i do think that Dick does not like the way some of the women in the house have played the game and has told them so. i have also seen clips on youtube from the feeds where folks have said that Dick was having a fight with so-and-so or a blowup at someone only to find him have a very CALM discussion with them. the fact that he was pointing out the other person's behavior as something he didn't like did not make it a fight or a blow-up. he wasn't screaming, yelling or jumping up and down in any of the clips i have seen. he was talking so matter of fact that it could just have easily have been about the weather.
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Outlawout
Member
07-28-2005
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 12:30 pm
For my money, Howie was twice the misogynist Dick is.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 12:35 pm
I didn't say she lied. Raen, to clairify, I wasn't actually responding to something you said there, just some posts in general.
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 1:30 pm
LOL, don't get me started on Howie, Outlaw!
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 1:55 pm
Cut Howie some slack he is working real hard right now to raise money for his girlfriends Goddaughter who dying.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 2:10 pm
okay, right now Zach is in HOH room. Dick is letting him talk, he isnt bullying him. Everytime Zach talks, Dick quietly sits and allows him to speak long paragraphs. Completely different than when he talks to women
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 2:12 pm
howie's behaviour in the house the past two seasons does not require slack....just because he is doing charity now. it does show that he has a good heart
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 2:17 pm
he is letting Zach hang himself.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 2:23 pm
I don't think he hates women.. he just doesn't know how to be diplomatic with them, he's a loose cannon around them and it's bound to backfire on him...
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 3:27 pm
Zach didn't hang himself. Dick got freaked out by what he said. He didn't realize people knew he had an alliance too.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 3:28 pm
Oh Cricket you and I saw that differently...I saw Dick get mad that people would think he was so stupid to have an alliance with Amber and Dustin...
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 4:44 pm
ok we've had Zach and Mike in Dick's Crosshairs today. Neither got the same demeaning sexual comments thrown at them. Neither was called Stupid. So, I guess it is true eh?
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 4:46 pm
but remember they approached him, they didn't sit back and wait for him to have his proof against them and call them on it. Also neither of the guys openly campaigned against him like the girls did. Very different situations.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 5:14 pm
As I said earlier, people will FIND reasons to justify their personal agendas. I'd give it up Earthmom. Dick is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. And this is for Raen... The farmer in the dell, the farmer in the dell, high ho, the derry-oh... <grin>
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 5:22 pm
EDick has talked with as much disdain about Mike for two weeks as he has about Kail....because of their "alliance" etc. So, in my opinion, even though EDick is just as mad at Mike and hates him for targeting EDick...he STILL backed down when Mike started getting offended during their talk an hour ago or so.... So, even if you don't think EDick is a "woman-hater"...it iseems to be QUITE obvious that he is a BULLY!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 5:25 pm
MIKE did NOT SPEND an entire WEEK targeting Dick. Dick DOES not ACT LIKE a BULLY. You are ENTITLED to your opinion. BUT I am entitled TO MINE.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 5:28 pm
sure mike did. he was solidly behind the decision to get rid of dick. Think I'm watching a different set of live feeds.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 5:35 pm
Ahem!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, July 20, 2007 - 5:36 pm
Good bye.
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