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Jen
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07-27-2003

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
Yep. I posted the Youtube where he calls it abuse. His daughter calls it taunting as well.

Jen
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07-27-2003

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
More drama pops up once some is removed. Trust me as a teacher, when the disuptive kid gets removed, someone always steps up to the plate.

There will be drama once Dick leaves. Maybe just not the abusive kind.

Sidecar
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07-23-2007

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sidecar a private message Print Post    
Unless he becomes a liability to CBS, Dick isnt going to get thrown off the show. I saw him acting somewhat tolerable to Jen last night, or simply removing himself from her presence, bashing her to others, not to her face. I am somewhat suspicsious of the whole Dick vs Jen story and the producers hand in it, with the complicity of the participants and the non-participation of the rest of the house guests.

Swannanoa
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07-09-2007

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Swannanoa a private message Print Post    
Actually Dick admitted to his daughter that the BB people in the DR said he was very close to disruptive behavior. He came out of that DR a little more chastened. Not much, but a little. And who's to say he's telling the truth? According to Dick, they laughed, but I think it's a lie, pure and simple.

I believe the game will be more interesting and dramatic if Dick is gone and the others turn on each other to get each other out.

But don't think I'm just irritated at Dick for his actions. Those women in that house that allow that to continue are just as responsible for not stepping in and telling him to stop. So are the men. That's just unacceptable to me.

Avrey258
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06-23-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Avrey258 a private message Print Post    
Really? Drama? From who? Kail will run around acting scared. Dustin, Amber, Jess and Eric will try and stick since they have the numbers. Dani and Dick will be out, along with Zach. Jen? Dustin may want to take her to the end so we may get to see Amber cry some more. Even if Kail or Jen win HOH we already know they will evict Dani or Dick.

Jen
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07-27-2003

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
You never know where the drama will come from.

And Dick did calm down yesterday. He was definitely making an effort. Nick made a comment about hitting Jen on the head with the golf club and Dick said it's not worth it, and didn't jump on the hate wagon.

He complained to Jameka that Jen had left a mess of slop around yesterday, and then apologized for going on and on about it. Jameka agreed it's okay to complain about that.

I think he totally got it that it was too much AND that it's screwing up his game.

I'm glad. Let's get back to BB: scheming and plotting, not abusing.

Babsbunny3
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07-28-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babsbunny3 a private message Print Post    
I just can't imagine signing up for BB and NOT expecting verbal and emotional abuse. Its a given...and I love it!

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 1:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Oh, next thing you know we'll have someone saying that when Justin held a knife to Krista's throat, well, it was just a game. He didn't actually hurt her, and she wasn't upset, so it's all okay.

I think not. I think Dick means it, and is not gaming anyone. If he means it, it's not a game.

Guinevere
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03-15-2001

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 2:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Guinevere a private message Print Post    

quote:

Just had to stop by and give an EXPERTS opinion on the abuse issue. My mother who is a trained Domestic abuse/sexual assault advocate (and former battered women) says that in the context of the game Dicks tirades are not abuse.
And that is why he is still in the house, it is NOT abuse it is part of the game.




I don't know your mother from Adam, and no disrespect intended, her opinion means nothing to me. I don't need an EXPERT to tell me that Dick's tirade constituted verbal abuse, any more than I need a farmer to tell me when I smell horseshit.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Karuuna also has extensive experience in that area, so two experts are saying different things. I tend to believe Karuuna. No offense, either, to your mother. (Karuuna, if you don't like that I mentioned you, you can delete with no hurt feelings! :-) )

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 2:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
THANK YOU Rubyroo...

As I said before....I was verbally and physically abused as a child for over 8 yrs. until my mother got multiple sclerosis and couldn't walk any more....


I have NEVER seen anyone so venomous or name-calling and vicious and "in your face" as my mother......UNTIL I saw EDick do that HORRIBLE tirade to Jen in the round bedroom....

That is EXACTLY what would start the physical blows...the irrational vicious screaming, putdowns and name-calling...and then the blows would start....

I have been in therapy off and on ALL of my adult life, and I have MANY therapists who would disagree with your mother, Kale, sorry...What Dick did was most DEFINITELY verbal "abuse" and physical intimidation from a 44 yr. old man to a 23 yr. old YOUNG woman....

Obviously therapists have differing opinions, just as we do....but if you ever experienced the level of abuse that I did....you could not STAND to watch EDick tirade like that without "going back in time and cringing"...I know I did...

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 2:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
If it were not for the fake "family feud" Dick would have been booted last week.All CBS wants to show is the Dick /Daniele saga every episode .I either leave the room or fast forward when they show them together.

Flyincows
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07-17-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 2:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flyincows a private message Print Post    
Well said Cay... I would consider yours as more of an "expert" opinion!

I believe that ED is, in some twisted way, trying to make up for his parenting inadequacies by over reacting to his daughter's "enemies".

Doublethink
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08-23-2006

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 2:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Doublethink a private message Print Post    
Flyincows - interesting take - I didn't even think about it like that - could be right. His language is just too much for me.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Off topic, I loooove your username, Flyincows!

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
we can't say that Dick isn't breaking any rules, because BB doesn't enforce the rules - there's a rule against singing - they sing anyway - there's rule against talking about their DR - they talk about it anyway - so if there's a rule about verbal abuse/assault/whatever you want to call it, we have no way of knowing, because if Dick breaks that rule, BB likely won't enforce it either.

I wish BB would take a page from BB AU and enforce the dang rules, even with a punishment room

otherwise, they might as well say no rules, everyone into the house, last 2 standing wins!

Flyincows
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07-17-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flyincows a private message Print Post    
(thx Herm!! )

Speaking of the rules ...is it now set as a precedent that one can dump fluids (in anger) on another HG and that is not "over the line"??

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
good point - it sure looks that way, doesn't it!

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
With all due respect, I don't think that's a fair analogy.

Dick hasn't held a knife to anyone's throat...and to imply Dick's actions are just as bad as the knife incident isn't fair or accurate.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Hear, hear, Cay--right on.

Guinevere
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03-15-2001

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Guinevere a private message Print Post    

quote:

I believe that ED is, in some twisted way, trying to make up for his parenting inadequacies by over reacting to his daughter's "enemies".




You may be right, but the funny thing to me is that one of the first things I disliked about Dick (in the first episode; I didn't strongly dislike him at the time) was that he himself bashed his daughter. He was pretty uncomplimentary about her when talking to Dustin and Jessica, and I seem to recall that he has bashed her/complained about her to various other HGs in the weeks that they've been in the house. Maybe as she's gotten more okay with his reconciliatory overtures, and as the battle lines have been drawn in the house, he's done it less, but he is a hypocrite for getting so angry over Jen's relatively mild criticism of Daniele.

Flyincows
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07-17-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flyincows a private message Print Post    
Guinevere - I agree! At the outset it appeared that Dani was more likely to reject ED than to accept him so he bashed her because he thought she was/would be doing the same to him. Later there was some 'breakthrough' and he suddenly makes the attempt to become a 'loving' PapaBear.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I think not. I think Dick means it, and is not gaming anyone. If he means it, it's not a game.

I think you are absolutely correct, Karuuna.

Rubyroo77
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08-13-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rubyroo77 a private message Print Post    
CayCaye- I do know some of what you are talking about- my parents were that way- mostly my dad. But anyway- I am so sorry you had to go through such a traumatic childhood- NOBODY in this big world should have to go through someone speaking to them like that.
I will have to admit- when I watched the youtube of dick verbally assaulting Jen- I cried..it was very hard to watch..probably the hardest part of this- is that some women are defending these actions. I can't really understand why..

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
I am terribly sorry for anyone that was abused, this is a GAME, Jen and Dick are both playing it. Jen has not been crying and afraid Dick was going to hurt her. I understand some's real life drama would make them think otherwise. I just do not see it as that big of a threat. Where is the petition to oust Jameka for saying she wants to slap Danielle? Or that is ok, because she said it behind her back?