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Jen
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07-27-2003

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
Right, What.

I didn't like the way he was standing over her either. He walked from where he was to stand directly over her during this time.

She wants to go to the DR, I'm sure she's going to ask them about it.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"She initiated the "tirade" ..she smugly said something to him to get him started..thats something people tend to over look"

The victim of the abusive behavior, be it verbal or otherwise, is not responsible for that abuse.

The ABUSER is responsible for abusing. Period.

The "You made me did it" defense doesn't hold water.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
I watched the clip of the Dick/Jen confrontation...I beliee the words he said were very inappropriate, however, I don't feel he was "threatening" to her, in any way physically. I actually thought that Jen was amused by his rant, especially towards the end. So the fact that she's trying to use this to get him "thrown out" is just a part of her game play, just as I think him trying to get into her head is part of his game play. They're both playing the game, in their own way.

Nala63
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09-20-2005

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nala63 a private message Print Post    
BB offers gifts in these challenges..why fault someone for taking them? dont see that as throwing any thing.

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
I don't think Jen was amused; I think she was incredulous at what Dick was saying to her.

Jen
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07-27-2003

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
She's not amused. She doesn't know what to do. She can't believe he's treating her this way. A 44 year old man.

If this was part of her game play, she's be crying wolf immdiately. Most of the people there don't talk to her, so she's trying to put on a brave front.

You can tell it bothers her, but she doesn't want to give him the satisfaction.

Calimom3
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07-12-2007

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calimom3 a private message Print Post    
I think Jen IS smart, and after Dick has done this to her soooo many times, she KNOWS he's gonna go off on her, so she should just not respond to him... if he's looking for something, she should say she hasn't seen it. I think she sets him off so others will be likely to get rid of him ASAP... she knows if he gets irate, he's likely to be gone SOON.

Dedonjo
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08-20-2006

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dedonjo a private message Print Post    
"I watched the clip of the Dick/Jen confrontation...I beliee the words he said were very inappropriate, however, I don't feel he was "threatening" to her, in any way physically."

The threat doesn't have to be physical.
From what I've seen, Jen handles him more appropriately than any of the others, and this annoys him further. However, I don't see her as doing anything intentionally, including egging him on. And I do believe she feels unsafe, and rightly so.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
WOW. I just watched the clip.

It was worse than I imagined.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wqnGazYTcU

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Uh, he did say that he would shove his boot so far up her ass or something like that. Isn't that "threatening"?

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
Yeah, Dick really did himself proud, didn't he?

Tera
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08-10-2000

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tera a private message Print Post    

quote:

I don't feel he was "threatening" to her, in any way physically.




"You will have to have my boot surgically removed from your ass." - Dick

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
"You will have to have my boot surgically removed from your ass." - Dick

hahahaha, I just said this to my son the other day when he was acting like a jerk..Was I being literal???? of course not.

Lori
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04-18-2003

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori a private message Print Post    
Dick is verbally abusive. I can easily see it escalating. I think the DR should caution him on his behavior.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
Absolutely...Sanfran...and like I said before....from someone who watched it happen "LIVE"...I was AFRAID for Jen...and I was CRYING...because I was the "victim" to MANY tirades and physical abuse that started JUST LIKE that....Can't some of you "Jen-haters" at least put yourself in her place...she is a YOUNG woman being "attacked" by a virtual stranger...for no reason....I can tell you all...I am VERY rattled...


I am 52 yrs. old and it seems like yesterday.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"hahahaha, I just said this to my son the other day when he was acting like a jerk..Was I being literal???? of course not."

Were you ENRAGED and towering over him, yelling at him along with sexual remarks and hateful name calling in a tirade that lasted several minutes?

It was the context of his "boot up your ass" threat that gave it the weight that an offhand remark would not have.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
I did not see that as physically threatening, no. I have heard that phrase used often before, and yet I have never seen anybody actually having surgery to remove a boot. I do agree that he should be cautioned on his verbal tirade, but I don't believe it was a "physical threat".

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
Simple solution. She should have gotten up and walked away. She didn't. Did she deserve this? Maybe not, but she stayed and kept talking to him.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
THANK YOU SO MUCH Sanfran....

Some people just refuse to "see"....He is THREATENING her...make no mistake...

I have to get off the computer...I am seriously SHAKING right now....(too personally involved) Sorry, guys!

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
I would say that a threat is in the eye of the beholder.

Jen may have felt threatened whether we agree or not.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
She was LYING on the bed Milos...and he got up OVER HER!! OMG! ALWAYS blame the woman or the CHILD!

I'm outta here!!!

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Some people just refuse to "see"....He is THREATENING her...make no mistake...

It isn't that I refuse to see it, it's that I don't see it.

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
I am not blaming anyone, if she felt seriously threatened, she could have screamed, yelled, anything. I am not saying what he did was right. I just saw her acting calm and collected, and I was thinking "wow, good for Jen". I would have been a basket case. She is a very strong woman.

WoodpeckeŽ
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07-16-2002

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send WoodpeckeŽ a private message Print Post    
His behavior is so obviously out of line, I can't believe Dick has any defenders.

Tera
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08-10-2000

Monday, July 30, 2007 - 4:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tera a private message Print Post    
Me either, Wood.