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Cathlene
Member
07-28-2007
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:34 pm
Did anyone happen to catch ShowBiz Tonight on Headline news? They showed Amber's comments to Jameka and then had a three way discussion about what she said.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:52 pm
It is a known fact that a big majority of people believe Jews are savy in financial matters and know how to make a lot of money and how to handle it. The Merchant of Venice (a very good movie with Al Pacino) is a good example of that. So, what Amber was saying was repeating what the majority of people think of jews. I'm sure she put it in a very negative spin but she wasn't saying something shocking, it's an old belief. It's true that they have a keen sense of finances. Good for them. Do they have a big nose? Well, most mid-eastern people have them, so what? I don't find that offensive, it's a genetic trait. I'm sure she put it in a derisory way, which is wrong, but again she is typical of the majority. I think this hatred for them has more to do with jealousy of their know-how to make money than for other reasons. It is silly.
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Kaili
Member
08-31-2000
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:00 pm
are you kidding?
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:04 pm
Wow...
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Gypsy
Member
08-18-2006
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:06 pm
did i read that right?
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:08 pm
What is so shocking? That Jews have a keen sense of finances?? Or that the majority think like Amber?
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Cruzlvr
Member
11-13-2003
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:08 pm
OMG Spunky, I wish you would go back and read what you wrote and seriously think about it!
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:10 pm
What the heck did I say??? Tell me what's shocking you.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:11 pm
Gee, Spunky, that's a pretty racist remark.
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:12 pm
Your comments sound a bit anti-semitic.
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Kaili
Member
08-31-2000
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:12 pm
Do you really believe the majority....wait....let me start over. Did you see/read what Amber said? The extent of it? I mean, do you see no problem with it? I'm a little dumbfounded right now. sorry.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:13 pm
What is the racist remark? That Jews are savy in financial matters? I don't get it. It's a compliment.
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Kaili
Member
08-31-2000
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:14 pm
I don't know if I'd say anti-semitic, but for sure pretty, uh, to put it mildly- serious stereotyping anyway.
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:14 pm
To each his own...oh well.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:17 pm
I am defending them, not condemning them. Their keen sense of affairs is a quality not something to condemn.
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Kaili
Member
08-31-2000
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:22 pm
Spunky, the point is that being Jewish has nothing to do with a person's financial skills anymore than having a certain skin color, sexual preference, or being Catholic, Mormon, or whathaveyou affects a person's financial skills. Whether you are applauding it or condemning it is irrelevant (to a degree).
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:24 pm
Wow! Spunky, Too bad my Jewish friends didn't know this. Maybe, they could have avoided their unfortunate bankruptcy.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:25 pm
Okay, I guess what I said can be easily misunderstood for criticism when in fact I wanted to applaud all Jews for their qualities.
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:26 pm
And so why did Amber have those abortions...being a good catholic and all
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:29 pm
wow sounds like stereotyping and prejudging to me ...
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:29 pm
Does it really matter if she had an abortion or not??
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:30 pm
The problem with "positively" stereotyping a group of people is that although the stereotype may be perceived by the person doing it as positive, it demeans the individual qualities of each member of the group. Plus with a small twist, a so called positive stereotype can easily be perceived as a negative quality.
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Kaili
Member
08-31-2000
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:31 pm
Ummm...that's not the point I was trying to make, but I need to get to bed now so I'm just going to have to let this one go for tonight. One last try... "all Jews for their qualities" Do all Jews have the same qualities? Do all Catholics have the same qualities as other Catholics? Do all Americans have the same qualities as other Americans? Etc...
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:32 pm
Not to mention that The Merchant of Venice is not exactly contemporary seeing as Shakespeare wrote it just before 1600...
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:33 pm
Beckie, No, she brought it up. I was just making an analogy to Spunky.
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