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Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
agree, Dolphin, I am a Navy brat and I teach 8th grade, so language has never been an issue for me. We all say things when we are angry and use words that we think will hurt the most. That certainly doesn't make us haters with edipus complex.

My poor sister has always picked men just like the women Dick describes..I would love for her to meet a man like him.

Dolphinschild
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06-22-2006

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dolphinschild a private message Print Post    
I agree Costa. I rather trust someone who is honest about what is on their mind or feelings, then someone who isn't. I might not like what they have to say, but I respect them for their openness.

Kail's and Jen's holier then though self-importance attitude has irritated me alot. The only person that has upset me more is Joe's behavior on how he keeps bringing up Gonarrhea (sp). His prideful rant about how he ruined Dustins life and the whole Sexually transmitted disease rant has upset me more then all the house guest and Jen comes in Second and Kail comes in 3rd.

I am more likely to feel sorry (empathetic) about Jen and her insecurity and how she feels she needs to flaunt herself to get noticed or any kind of attention, but there is no excuse for Joe or Kail in my book.

Dolphinschild
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06-22-2006

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dolphinschild a private message Print Post    
I met this woman<48>. She was horrible to her children. She was also selfish, needy and demanding and she didn't care who she hurt to get her bidding or what she wanted. For one small example that I witnessed. It was her son's 15 BD. He was living with his dad because he couldn't take his mom anymore. He called to tell her about his birthday party, so she could be there. She told him I am not coming, my Bingo game is that day and time and I am not missing it for anyone. He said, ok then hung up.

She showed up an hour late and then yelled out so everyone could hear that she was there and he better be happy, because she gave up her game and changed her LIFE for him and he better show appreciation for it.

His dad asked her if she needed to be such a B**ch and embarrass their son like that and she said, yea I do, because I am the queen of b**ches and he needs to know to appreciate the things I do for him.

This was minor compared to her other achievements <48>

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
Navy wife 9 year, maybe that is why the language doesn't bother me, i just tune it out.

As i said my best friend is a lot like Dick and i love him dearly, my kids love him.. he has sons and i always make fun of him because the rules of life for his sons are different than the ones he makes for my girls.. example when the oldest were in high school I brought home condoms and gave to both kids. My friend thought it was good his son carry one but felt my daughter should not. since she can never have sex.. he is funny. He has been hurt and damaged by woman, but the things he comes from his heart and his own perspective. He has NEVER been anything but respectful toward me, he is a good person with women issues.
I use him as an example for my girls on who NOT to fall in love with. lol
But he doesn't hate women. Dick is the same.

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
I also agree with Costa. While Dick may seem crude to many I'm sure we are all guilty of saying things when we are angry or hurt. I like the fact he says it like it is..and doesn't kiss up to anyone or agree with everyone just for the sake of a vote. He talks to all the other HG's, calls them out when necessary, and for the most part seems to be liked by most everyone inside the house. Which is why they feel he is a threat. I like the guy and if I were inside the house I think he'd be the guy I'd hang with. He is funny, intelligent, sometimes crude, lol, ...but he also has a soft side. If he and Danielle don't have an alliance, I sure hope they can work things out and regain a relationship. Love him or hate him....he makes the BB house worth tuning into.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
My last boyfriend was always amazed at me. My independence just amazed him... he couldn't understand how I'd never been married. Um, hello? Can you say I-N-D-P-E-N-D-E-N-T???? I don't need no stinkin' man! (Although, yeah, they are good for a couple of things!)

Am I a man hater?

Sounds like the last girl Dick dated was a real winner. NOT!

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
Sorry...ALL WOMEN are not the "same" to be categorized in one column of description, just like ALL MEN are not, or all gays are not, or all minorities are not....

I think it's funny that anyone takes up for Dick when he is judged for his OWN words, when all Dick DOES is judge other people and TELL THEM WHY he is right!

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
That's the point Caycaye, he shouldn't be judged for his way of playing his game. If the people in that house do not agree with him they should tell him so. None of them are children who are going to be sent to the corner if they disagree. If they have a valid (operative word) argument then they should speak up. If they think he is a bully, then they are old enough to know that you face a bully, you don't cry and run away. The way they chose to play their game is giving him the platform and he's taking full advantage of it. He is using (his idea) of honesty to call them on their stuff..if they think he is wrong then "speak up or forever hold your peace."

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
True, Costa...SOMETIMES Dick is doing that...like last night with Jen...I LIKE that EDick....

But the one who calls names and tells peoople how everyone HATES them and WHY...is too judgemental and vindictive for me....and obviously for Danielle too...she told Nick last night that her father has "said things to me that noone would EVER say to a family member!"...and that's why whenever he talks, Jen says the words go in one ear and out the other, because she can't let any of his words in.

Yoda
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08-11-2005

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yoda a private message Print Post    
So when Dick expresses himself he's being honest but when Kail does she's intolerant?

Dolphinschild
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06-22-2006

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dolphinschild a private message Print Post    
I am guilty of going on a "I HATE MEN" rant and saying things <48>. WE are all guilty of ranting and saying crap about the gender we are attracted to. I am just as guilty and I know many more who are, who do the same thing as Dick. I read all of Dick's blogs. and he ranted his frustrated, confused emotions about women. I did one about MEN. I tell my male friends they remind me why I like to stay single all the time. <48>

Dick is going through a midlife crisis and he is confused and he is rethinking his life and all those other things people generally do in their 40's. Some take longer then others and some hit it sooner then others. He is not a woman hater, he is frustrated with women. The problem is with Dick is he picks the unhealthy kind of women, which mirror his own unhealthy, insecurity he feels within himself. That is just my honest opinion.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
You are absolutely right Earthmother...I would have no problem standing up to Dick....but I have had practice standing up for myself for years...and I am not timid...

But some people cannot handle bullies, and I can't stand to watch the turmoil he seems to enjoy...

Oddsygirl
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07-11-2006

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oddsygirl a private message Print Post    
I prefer someone who would rather say something to my face than to say it behind my back.

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
he was trying hard to understand jen last night.

he may not be eloquent in his wording but the meaning was clear and honest last night one observation.

Dick was talking about judging people by how they look, how easy it is to do. That he knows ugly women who are the most beautiful inside and then working the bars he knows really beautiful women who are in <48> and that Jen falls somewhere in between.
i was a complement and it did show that as they talk to each other his opinion of her changes.

I also loved the money discussion and his example of all the Big TIT's in L.A. how un-necessary they were that he liked smaller tits anyway, but always ended up with women with big ones. It was very funny and he wasn't being mean or hateful just using what he knows to make his point.

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
Thats a lot of the problem with getting to "know" someone on the internet. Particularly BB houseguests, live feeds are not real life imho. Neither is one blog in a myspace. People have many faces they show and don't show depending on the situation.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Kail is intolerent of gays..her words not mine,
"it's just not right." As far as I am concerned they have both lied, but he called her on her dishonesty and she didn't call him on his...her mistake.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
Oh...I would MUCH prefer an honest upfront person...and that is the part of Dick that I like.....I enjoyed his conversation with Jen and stayed up all night to listen....

Just because I don't like Dick being a <el>, doesn't mean I think he is a waste of humanity...and this is all JUST my opinion....

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
My take on it is that when you decide to join the cast of a reality show, "if you can't run with the big dogs you best stay on the porch."

Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
I think Dick is excellent for BB. I don't hate the guy at all, he's great entertainment!

I do think that certain women he pursues reject him on a regular basis, so lashing out is his way of feeling superior. So, I'm not sure if that means he hates all women. Probably just hates the ones he can't get. Look at how he's bonded with the weak, weepy, yet adoring Amber.

I agree with him politically and also about religion (and lack thereof). I loved it when he mentioned that the religious people in the house get the 'perk' of having the bible in the house, and he said his 'bible' is "A to Z of Porn" and he felt discriminated against as he wasn't allowed to bring that into the house!! LOL!!!

So, as much as he amuses me in the house, I don't think I'd want to be his friend IRL, tho. Just too arrogant for my taste.

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
oh i think the difference is dick has never said "i would be disappointed if my daughter CHOSE to be a woman.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I don't find Dick hateful of women. He just has an upfront was of speaking. He doesn't have any filters. I don't think he says or does anything to the women that he doesn't say or do to men...

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
Truer words were never spoken Earthmother! That is why I like the out there contestants much better than the <el> like Amber.

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
Rose Dick is not that guy being ignored or turned down by the ladies, he is very popular and as stated before dated Jerry from Survivor who for all her faults ugly wasn't one of them.. (but she might explain Dicks thoughts on the <el>)

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
KALE---LOL

I can see that.

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
I am shocked that so many women are sticking up for Dick. Well after rereading this thread it's not as many as I actually thought as a few are posting a lot. lol

I had started out kind of liking Dick and sticking up for him to my husband who can't stand him yet after listening to some of his youtube videos, like the 4 or 5 part one where he is "talking" with Jen in the backyard, I totally changed my opinion of him. I don't like controlling, know-it-all men. Dick comes across to me as very insecure and defensive.