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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 5: America's Player (ARCHIVES): Archive through August 13, 2007 users admin

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Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
I was just thinking the same thing Meagain. It is not too late for Eric to work this if Dustin goes up. He already has a heads up on what America wants. I think he might even get Amber to go along if she thinks Zach is on board. The thing that will throw him for a loop now is if Jessica puts someone other then Dustin up.

Meagain
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07-20-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Meagain a private message Print Post    
Well, thanks to everyone voting for Jessica (bad bad idea IMO)..... Now Dick seems to have zero shot at staying. I can't believe Dick fans voted Jessica!

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
from CBS

"This season Eric, the 27-year old talent management assistant from New York will be representing all of YOU: the tv viewers, bloggers, live feed watchers and fans across America"

So to end the argument it clearly says Eric is working for us not that we are to help Eric.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
The problem is that the voters for America's Player can't help him play strategically because they are not a uniform group. Even the voters who feel they are voting strategically may have completely opposite strategies; much less the voters who are now trying to screw Eric up on purpose.

Look at how inconsistent the voting has been from a strategic perspective.

1. Tell Jessica he wants to go to the final two with her
2. Convince Jessica to nominate Dustin (their ally).
3. Don't talk to Jessica (the HOH that he needs to influence and was previously told to partner with)
4. Probably vote Dustin out?

It is crazy from Eric's perspective.

Also Eric is representing the viewer. He is not bound to do exactly what the viewers tell him. It is a matter of judgement. For example, I'm perfectly happy with how Eric has played with respect to America's Choice so he is representing me just fine in that respect as far as I'm concerned.

Kidsatm
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07-08-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kidsatm a private message Print Post    
LOL, those votes are crazy from a lot of perspectives. I think one thing we can all agree on is this twist has given us a lot to talk about and has kept the game from being boring.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL – I can just see this happening. Let's say that Eric goes all out to get Dustin nominated on behalf of the viewers. Then what will America do? They'll tell him to vote off Dick, leaving Eric with a very angry and betrayed Dustin. The guy must be going insane in there.

Sidhe
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08-09-2007

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sidhe a private message Print Post    
Eric just needs to reject the A.P. game altogether.

So-called fans already cast his eviction vote, there's nothing he can do about that, but there's no need for him to try to make money by fulfilling their stupid requests.

Voting to give Jessica the cold shoulder???? Whatever.

Now he has confirmation that America's voters are deliberately trying to sink him. Make it a deal's-off both ways (F^&% me? No, f&^% you!). Shut it down and let BB boot him for playing to protect his only true ally.

Lucymac
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07-06-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lucymac a private message Print Post    
IF Eric took our message to heart... And Dustin goes up right now.... IF he was smart - he'd try to get Dustin out. I think he could work with Dick. They were friends before and they could pull this off. If Dick wants to stay, they could make a truce and Dick will hold to it. He has to.

I don't in anyway believe Dick would hold to any truce they made. Dick would use it to stay but would go after Eric the next week and work to get him out.

Kidsatm
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07-08-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kidsatm a private message Print Post    
I agree Lucymac, I think if Eric had been playing for himself from the beginning he & Dick would probably still be in an alliance but because of the circumstances resulting from AP votes and the banner (which identified the LNC7 as the Nerd Herd) Dick will not trust or work with Eric. In addition to the lack of trust for Eric, Dick wants no part of being in a group that has been called the Nerd Herd.

Saguaro
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06-21-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saguaro a private message Print Post    
I think if anything, between the banner, and the tasks Eric is getting from America, he should be starting to realize he is not liked very much by a lot of people watching.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I'm clueless as to why America would vote to have Eric give Jess the cold shoulder. Makes no sense at all to me. All my votes went to Dustin.

This is one task Eric needs to just not do and forfeit the money.

Dedonjo
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08-20-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dedonjo a private message Print Post    
I also don't understand why he either doesn't or can't refuse a task. He only gets paid for those he does, and stands to lose more if he gets evicted. Not to mention making himself and others miserable in the process.
I am also curious why he doesn't or can't make better excuses for his behavior - for example, why couldn't he go to Jessica and say, "I am getting worried that people are seeing us as too close, so I am going to totally avoid you for a day or so"...with a little creativity he could spin some kind of reason or strategy behind it - "Jen is jealous of us, and we want to get her on our side, I'll avoid you and we'll both work separately on gaining her friendship". Or something like that.
Wouldn't that make sense?? Or am I totally missing something here...

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Its too bad that Amber wasn't America's player, now that would have been entertaining.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Oh, and FYI -- I DON'T VOTE and I DON'T sabotage Eric. He made it clear he wasn't interested in doing what the voters wanted and simply wanted us to support him long ago -- and that wasn't the point of the twist.


Well, IF YOU don't vote then you have nothing to be upset about!

I have no problem with the AP task or the way it is being played...it is those of you that are using the AP vote to BENEFIT your favorite player that are complaining the most about Eric not following the rules.

The ones complaining the loudest and trying to hurt the AP are also the ones that I have seen complain for years about NOT having a say in the house at all!

Kaili
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08-31-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
Poor Amber- do you know she even has a lower popularity on CBS than Nick- who's been gone for almost 2 weeks? LOL

Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
I believe I am getting my say in the house. I am saying make life miserable for Eric. He deserves what he is getting for his horrible words about D&D.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
But Jess doesn't. Out of everyone in the house, she would be the one most effected by Eric's silent treatment because they have been close up til now.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Agreed, Wargod! I voted for Dick...thought that would give Eric a break! LOL

Nana
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07-24-2004

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nana a private message Print Post    
If it helps Jess wake up and play the game for herself then really there is no harm done...besides she has a few doubts about him so in the long run when she finds out Eric has been doing things for money as AP she won't be as hurt... JMO

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Also Eric is representing the viewer. He is not bound to do exactly what the viewers tell him. It is a matter of judgement. For example, I'm perfectly happy with how Eric has played with respect to America's Choice so he is representing me just fine in that respect as far as I'm concerned.

Jimmer, I too am quite happy with how Eric has played and represented me.

People might have the feeds but they are always complaining that they are advertised as 24/7 but they don't get 24/7 so how much are they missing that Eric would see?!

Mom_of_two
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09-06-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mom_of_two a private message Print Post    
I don't think he is representing the viewer, I think he is playing for himself, hoping the viewer will start just agreeing with him

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Mom_of_two...so his giving Jessica the cold shoulder and making her cry is playing for himself?

I don't think so!

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
I agree Mom...he so much as asked us to vote his way.

If you have never had the live feeds then you don't know what you are missing. You actually miss a lot of things.

Sure, we get vortex..but only if someone is talking about something they shouldn't or a competition is going on.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
And from what I understand, you do NOT have the feeds 27/7 so YOU are missing a lot of stuff also.

I WAS watching all the live feed video and downloading the feeds that were being posted in the video thread, but they got so offensive that I just couldn't watch them anymore. Watching the show last night took everything I had in me also, and it had NOTHING to do with the AP!

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Nana, I respectfully disagree. This AC wasn't to make Jess wake up and play the game herself, it was to show Eric how upset America (or the majority of voters, cuz I didn't vote Jess) is at him and in doing so it's hurt her. It makes no sense to me, it's not on a game level (I mean AC last time was to get Dustin put up and now he can't even talk to the HOH about that) it's personal, they are friends in the house and have a good time together.

When she sees the tapes she may laugh it off and say "oh that explains a lot, now I understand!" but for right now the poor girl is getting hurt and that's not right.