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Big Brother Influencing the Game?

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Backslider
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08-09-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 1:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Backslider a private message Print Post    
What does Big Brother have to do with fair? I will quote from the BB UK site:

"THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF ALL: Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time."

That's Big Brother. Big Brother doesn't have to tell you the rules. Whatever Big Brother says or does becomes the rule, ex post facto. Don't you remember the book? People were employed to go back and revise newspaper articles to make them match whatever Big Brother says today. That's the way it goes. There are enough other "fair" game shows to watch. This is Big Brother.

CBS should probably just be more blatant about it. They should state that Big Brother can change the rules at any time. And they should show the DR like they do in the UK, and show them influencing people (and better yet, antagonizing them, like the UK does).

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 1:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Hire them as actors and present it for what it really is - because obviously it isn't a game with no outside influences as CBS advertises.

LOL - BB pays them. It's not a game show like Wheel of Fortune. They work for CBS don't they? It's kind of like they are employees who get performance bonuses for winning.

I don't think that CBS excludes Big Brother when it suggests that there are no outside influences (though there have been other outside influences introduced into the game by BB).

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    

quote:

... will quote from the BB UK site:

"THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF ALL: Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time."


Well, last I checked, I wasn't watching BB UK.

I'm starting to think BB can't have it both ways. BB pays the participants stipends, so it's not a game show. But when outside interfere occurs, they yell that the outcome of the GAME SHOW has been jeopardized. Huh? Pick one, CBS, pick one.

Kidsatm
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07-08-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 2:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kidsatm a private message Print Post    
I don't think I have ever seen CBS refer to Big Brother as a game show.
In a statement to TMZ, CBS says: "It's always great to have fans that are this engaged and passionate about 'Big Brother.' However, we also need to protect the integrity of the competition, which does not allow any outside influence on the houseguests who are sequestered from the public broadcast and therefore unaware of some of the secret twists in the show."

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Here's a clip of Jen talking about the DR trying to influence her to change her vote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7JeWIah2Ac

Martinidreams
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08-19-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Martinidreams a private message Print Post    
Of course they're influencing the game. They've done it the last two years with their pet favorite, Janelle.

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 4:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
The people are being influenced from somewhere....nobody can be this dumb. With everything that came out about Eric this week they would not have kept him. Their alliance would have still been strong...Dick and Danielle would have backed them to get Kail and Jen and even Zach out before going after any of them. And that STILL would have left Dick and Danielle alone. So, why would you take the chance that Eric is playing you, going to blackmail you, playing all sides....when you can just get rid of him and still have the numbers. It DOESN'T make any sense. BUT they feel it makes a good show so let's do it and narrow this down to 7 against 2. It appears to be obvious what will happen...so let's mix it up again this week for better ratings. I remember watching Dr. Will in season 2 and who would have EVER thought he would win. Everyone hated him...he was nominated a lot...then everyone wanted to take him in the end because they all figured they could beat him. But did it work that way? NO. This season the only people who have made the show interesting are Dick and Jen. Get rid of them and what's left...more of Amber crying, Dustin playing queen for a day, Jameka preaching - then swearing, Eric lying out of both sides of his mouth....then crying to everyone that he is so sorry and he didn't say all that, blah, blah, blah, and Jessica just sitting back and asking everyone what should I do, I don't know what to do. This to me is NOT exciting. Give me a house with Dr. Will, Janelle, Dick, Jace, Howie, Danielle, James, and let the games begin!

Needlenose
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09-16-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 4:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Needlenose a private message Print Post    
I know that I enjoy the show and look forward to it every year, somehow I had to re-register here so it looks like I have not been around as long as I have . . . Thank you CBS for having this unique show, Big Brother! However you do it, I know I like the live feeds and interaction with other fans . . .

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I hope those who voted to evict Kail feel really badly when they find out how they were played. And how they voted to keep Eric in the house, the twist, and how he's earning money this whole time, in addition to the stipend, in addition to the $500K that he's never gonna win.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 4:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Give me a house with Dr. Will, Janelle, Dick, Jace, Howie, Danielle, James, and let the games begin!

They would eat Dick alive. Will would not be able to tolerate the way Dick screws with everyone strategy.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 4:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
CBS will keep the AP twist a secret until the finale.

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 6:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
Maybe so, Caprica, but it would be so much more exciting to watch than this group. At least they WOULD be entertaining. I don't call this group entertaining at all. It would be very interesting to see that group interact. In all fairness to Dick, I think he would eat a few people too. But again, it would make you want to watch the show to see what happens next. You can almost predict what happens next on this season.

Kidsatm
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07-08-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 6:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kidsatm a private message Print Post    
Oh my goodness, gone for a day and come back to see Dick has won POV, I don't think BB could have scripted it better! But where is the outcry?

Avrey258
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06-23-2002

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Avrey258 a private message Print Post    
Well, I haven't heard any of the other houseguests complain that the competition was rigged in ED'd favor. It seems from what they've said, they had to drink gross stuff, play croquet and who knows what else. ED said he did poorly during the croquet. It seems as though they had to move from station to station earning points? Hard to cheat on that.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 8:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
The fact that this POV competition involved some gross stuff to swallow goes to show you BB had no intention to help Daniele (she must have gagged so much). Some say it was geared for Zach to win (that guy can't win anything), so Dick must have been desperate to win it to save his daughter and bow out with grace after a messy game play.

BB producers will just love the outcome, the father saving his daughter thing would be amazing for the tv show.

But again, we saw how Eric came back to life and fight to stay in the game right after coming out of the DR. Same thing with Amber, she comes out of the DR and goes straight to Dustin saying that maybe it's best to stay with the numbers.

Then Dick mentioned how the DR suggested he fight to stay, the same thing they told Eric and others. So they want the players to keep on playing till the end...

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Quite a few of the POV contests are won depending on how desperately the player wants to win the POV and what they are willing to do and/or give up to win it. Given this, it is not surprising that the people who are nominated win more often. The only surprising thing about the POV this year is how hard Jameka has tried to win and how much she has given up to win, considering she has never been nominated.

Ivory_mist
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08-31-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ivory_mist a private message Print Post    
More harassing by the DR...Dustin's words:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZPHETtpDo0

Blair
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07-28-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Blair a private message Print Post    
This year's Big Brother brought to you by the Jerry Springer Show. Just cancelled my SuperPass. This season is the worst yet and the producers are horrible. Haven't missed a season since Season 2 and I think this one has broken my Big Brother addiction. Everyone involved in the casting, production, and creating challenges should be fired.

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
Blair, I wrote to CBS and said the same thing! If someone wins $500,000 then they are cheating by influencing who gets voted out and that is not fair any way you look at it.

Neosporen
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08-18-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neosporen a private message Print Post    
since they rigged it for Eric to stay last week, it is only fair they rig it for Dustin to go this week...they can get in Jens ear and say you know you would win this if you are up agaist Ed at the end.. . same thing for Zach... and tell Dani you never know there is always that funky vote..might want to at least make it a tie and see what happens....

BB could definately manipulate Ed into staying IMHO, and since he is the raitings this season, I am sure they will be pushing it....

Cmist
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09-20-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cmist a private message Print Post    
I can see also that it makes sence that Dustin goes up and he gets voted out especially since they made such a big deal of him being the "decider" of the last vote to keep Eric. CBS would love to play up the Karma thing. Some of the things that happen are just to obvious. I also heard Dick indicate to Dani yesterday that his outbursts were coached by the diary room. Another day I heard him tell her "they want me to be more Evel than Dick". Who knows what CBS has in mind for the finale. I almost suspect they want Dick against Dani.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
on the other hand, BB MUST have told Jen first, then Kail, then Dustin and the others to PLEASE "do not retaliate". I thought it was Jen's quality to remain calm but after I saw how Dustin and the others kept ignoring him (even while banging pots and pans over his head), that must have been a suggestion from the DR, they were too much in agreement, all of them, to act that way, ignore Dick and he will go away...

For a minute it really looked like Dick was the clown, all that banging and cussing and yet no reaction from them. That was good coaching by the DR.