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Joyfuld
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08-16-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 5:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Joyfuld a private message Print Post    
The menacing part of Dicks behavior was when he ranted and raved for several days to Jen about wanting to destroy her career, telling her she would be a pole dancer/stripper in five years, telling her she was a **** etc. Also verbalizing how he would sodomize her in the lowest form etc. That is menacing and very disturbing. That is verbal abuse period. He may have gone off on Eric but he didn't threaten the same things. That is because Eric is a man. He did not once tell Eric to *uck his *ock etc as he has Jen on several occassions.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 6:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
I don't see much difference in the trash that Dick has said about Jen and the trash that Amber said about Jews, but in this society it has become PC to degrade women. Susan B. Anthony rolls in her grave.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 6:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
I co-sign what Joyfuld said. Dick's ranting at Eric wasn't near as cruel, abusive. and vulgar as Dick's ranting at Jen was.

What555....I have seen them in Houston also...lol
Very similiar wild eyed looks, waving their arms and ranting with no one else around.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 6:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I don't understand why age implies maturity. I don't understand why so many people say "he's old(er), he should know better." Not all "older people" know better. It depends on their lives, their experiences.

I won't go into the reasons why I think Dick did not go into sexual references with Eric. There is a reason why he didn't go there.

Joyfuld
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08-16-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 6:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Joyfuld a private message Print Post    
Amber has done herself in. Her rant about Jews was disgusting.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
If age didn't imply maturity, there would be no age limit for drinking, having sex, smoking, driving, voting, joining the military, or marriage.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
legal age and mental maturity to me are different things. some teenagers i know are much more mentally mature than some 40-something folks i know.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
They don't administer maturity testing before allowing someone to drive or have sex. They just look at the birth date. That's because their age implies a certain level of maturity.

I am rferring to this statement - "I don't understand why age implies maturity. "

Joyfuld
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08-16-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Joyfuld a private message Print Post    
Cap I do see a difference in what Amber said about Jews and what Dick says about the women. What Amber said is really very racist and ignorant. It is for sure racist. But with that said she didn't wish them harm. There in lies the difference to me. < headshake > Amber seems to be a misguided um, um, help me out here.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
They don't administer maturity testing before allowing someone to drive or have sex. They just look at the birth date.

that made me laugh. i'm sorry, but it is funny. i can just picture a cop asking somebody in bed to show them their birth certificate. LOL

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Amber made a very stupid, racist statement about Jewish people based on her ignorance......but she's not advocating genocide.

Joyfuld
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08-16-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Joyfuld a private message Print Post    
My point yes San. There you go again saying it better than me lol

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 1:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
Amber made a very stupid, racist statement about Jewish people based on her ignorance......but she's not advocating genocide.

She may not have personally thought she was, but there are people out there who would have taken her comments that way.

If age didn't imply maturity, there would be no age limit for drinking, having sex, smoking, driving, voting, joining the military, or marriage.

And actually, those "age limits" are different in every country. There is not age limit to having sex. You want to have sex at 12, that's fine...that's your body. And you can smoke at 13, you may not be able to buy, but you can smoke. You can do all those things, except for joining the military and voting, while you are under 18. Age does not mean maturity. Those ages were just decided on by politicans, which can change at anytime...

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 1:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
This entire thing is off the topic of Dick's abusive behavior..

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 1:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
The human brain is not fully developed until the age of 25.That is not my opinion it is scientific fact.

Calling a woman the C word is really no different that calling a black person the N word.
That is my opinion.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 1:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Actually, no it's not. One of the things I've been reading constantly is "Dick is old enough to know better". Which is why *I* brought up the age and maturity thing. It's exactly on topic, thanks.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 1:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Developmental maturity is subjective, that's a scientific fact. Not everyone develops at the same time in life and some never do.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 1:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
I understand what you are saying I was not speaking about maturity.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
What does the fully developed human brain mean when discussing the maturity level of a person?

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Beckie03 was talking about under age sex and drinking and stuff like that.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 2:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
But...Caprica...in all seriousness...is that the same development in someone who is mentally challenged or who has down's syndrome?? That may be normal, but what's and who is normal??

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 3:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"Actually, no it's not. One of the things I've been reading constantly is "Dick is old enough to know better". Which is why *I* brought up the age and maturity thing. It's exactly on topic, thanks."

Costacat, you misunderstood. I was referring to another post (the one talking about how 12 years old is old enough to have sex) that was going off topic.

However, as to your statement that age doesn't IMPLY maturity....I still maintain that age definitely does IMPLY maturity and we all know it.

If age didn't imply maturity levels, then no one would have a problem with 7 year olds having sex or driving cars and all 7 year olds could be expected to make adult decisions.

Of course, we all KNOW that 7 and year olds are not mature enough to do those things....and we know that because they are not old enough to be that mature.

Saying that age does not imply maturity makes no sense. We all judge one's maturity levels based on age. That's why many people thing that Dick is too old to be so incredibly immature.

Dick is old enough to know better. Period.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 3:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
depends upon the 7 year old . . .

anyway, i still have yet to be convinced that dick hates or dislikes women as a group. i have yet to be convinced that he has issues with women as a group. i won't be in the context of the game. i will wait to see if there is any proof out here in the real world. and, things said by anyone in the house, including his daughter, during the course of the game will not convince me.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 3:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"depends upon the 7 year old . . . "

So you believe that some 7 year olds are mature enough to make responsible decisons regarding sex?



Guinevere
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03-15-2001

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 3:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Guinevere a private message Print Post    

quote:

One of the things I've been reading constantly is "Dick is old enough to know better". Which is why *I* brought up the age and maturity thing.




Speaking for myself, I've only brought up Dick's age relative to some of the other HGs, specifically Jen and Daniele. Jen is barely more than half his age, and yet she behaves with a lot more maturity. Daniele has acted in ways I don't like, but because she's 20, I have hope that she will mature and change. Dick, I have little hope for. If it hasn't happened by 44, I don't think it's going to happen.

Older people (not that Dick is *that* old) are often given credit for their wisdom and life experience. The flip side of that is that, yes, more maturity is expected of them. It's not always the case that older people are more mature, but it's not an unreasonable or unfair expectation, IMO.