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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:09 am
Alison, you said something I wanted to say, but was too chicken. Lucas, good post.
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Kittyab
Member
07-16-2005
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:10 am
I didnt have the feeds on last night. Besides dumping tea on her what else did Dick do?
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:12 am
"But Jen seems to be handling it quite well & other people are talking about him taking it furthur and I just don't see it happening. " Yes, many posters on this board were talking about Dick's verbal abuse might escalate and then he'd take it further. Guess what.....our instincts were right. Dick DID take it further!
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:14 am
Kitty, there's a link in the Live Feed Video thread. It's best to see it for yourself.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:15 am
Penpoint that question can not be aswered without "game", because IMO that is exactly what it is. I have defended the man's reputation because I don't believe that anyone should be labeled "abusive, mental, violent, on the fringe of insane, within the confines of a game. I work with kids every day who are bullied. The general concensus is "the bully needs to be punished"..when in fact that only makes the bully the victim. What the bully needs is to get what they give. In real life I teach kids how to deal with the bully on their own because that is the ONLY way to stop it. In the context of this game I have said repeatedly that if they want to stop him they have to step up to him. If they don't then you can't blame him, he's playing his game. I have never defended his words, but believe he has the right to say them until someone tells him to stop. No one is held captive in that house, they chose to stay for money, and that's their right. I tire of blaming Dick for things that any person in that house could change, but chose not to. If collectively they think he should go based on what he is saying then they could do that, but I haven't seen that happen yet. This is a game, and people like Dick are the ones the others want to go to the end with because they think everyone else will vote against him. Time will tell. When Jen made her comment in the very beginning about him touching her she opened the door for his tirade. He knew he had to demonize her to save his reputation in the house. I just think he would rather be viewed as an than a pervert. I can't blame him for that.
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Tanith
Member
08-25-2006
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:15 am
The weight, cellulite comments are very telling as to why Dani is so thin.
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-19-2004
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:17 am
He poured tea on her that's not PHYSICAL harm simple as that! He didn't hit her, he didn't make a motion to hit her etc.. Dick is doing the same thing he has always done except last night he poured a glass of tea on Jen. BTW-did she ever wash it out LOL
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:19 am
I'd let Dick touch me anywhere he wants! <g,d,r>
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:19 am
He told her she needed to go take a shower..lol
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Kittyab
Member
07-16-2005
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:20 am
I dont see the big deal. If she would stop running her mouth she wouldnt had something dumped on her. Sorry but I dont like Jen at all.}
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:20 am
lol, Costa
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:22 am
Jen hasn't said to DICK he needs to watch out after the show, she's said it to other people. As did Jess. She said if anyone talked to me the way Dick talks to Jen, that her family would take care of them after the show. I've been around an abusive person before. There is always crying, sadness, and crazy that goes with it. I find no humor in him, no ability to control himself, and no entertainment. I hope Jen files charges on him when she leaves the house. And as much as I hate Boogie, I'd love to see him take care of some of this.
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:23 am
"If she would stop running her mouth..." This is something an abusive spouse says. It's not funny. In. The. Least.
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Tanith
Member
08-25-2006
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:24 am
Dick is the typical LA over-the-hill hanger on. He sees this as his claim to fame. After last night I now understand why Daniele has been estranged from him.
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Slinkydog
Member
11-30-2005
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:24 am
Just finished watching Showtime from last night. I used to go back and forth on whether I like him, but he's gone too far for my tastes. Dick needs to go, and soon.
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:24 am
Pouring the drink on her head is intimidation. He said he was so pissed that he did that. He was not in control of himself. He knows that. Most of us know that.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:32 am
Can you imagine someone trying to use that as a defense in a court of law? "Your honor, it was HER fault because she just needed to stand up to me." "Besides, she was running her mouth." He crossed the line, he needs to go.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:36 am
"The general concensus is "the bully needs to be punished"..when in fact that only makes the bully the victim. What the bully needs is to get what they give." Punishment or, in this case expulsion from BB, makes a bully accountable for his actions. If his not punished and then someone bullies him back, then he is a victim, BUT if he is held responsible for his actions, he is learning about justice and accountability. Justice is always better than anarchy. "In the context of this game I have said repeatedly that if they want to stop him they have to step up to him" Jen does exactly that. Of course, then she gets blamed for Dick's abusive behavior towards her because instead of cowering before him or running away or abusing him back, as you seem to be suggesting, she faces him directly and talks to him calmly. She faces up to him and refuses to be cowered and then she gets blamed for being abused and Dick's bullying escalates! EM, I understand your experience as a teacher dealing with issues similar to this. The thing is, Dick is not schoolchild. He is a 44 year old adult but it sounds like you are holding him to the standard used for a schoolyard bully.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:45 am
"He poured tea on her that's not PHYSICAL harm simple as that!" So you think Dick should get away with the verbal abuse, the threats, and then actually doing something to her physically just because she wasn't "physically harmed" and showing actual physical damage? Do you think Jen should be physically attacked, maybe a big bruise, a black eye or a broken arm before BB does something about it?
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Jushvnfn
Member
07-29-2006
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:49 am
Ok, Something has been bothering me for a while. Jen seems to be so unresponsive to Dick's actions. Almost in an odd way! Do think that it is possible that we have all been duped? Maybe this is another twist? Maybe they have been in an alliance from the start? It all just seems to weird!
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:49 am
It really seems so Josh, and it's quite disturbing the accetance of abusive behavior around here. And that fact makes me very sad. I hope children aren't seeing this or see that this is being accpeted. As a teacher myself, we have strict bully discipline matters at school. It is not allowed. But I guess for good TV it can be.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:52 am
SanFran, you are right on target. Frankly, I don't think the "standing up to the bully" thing works in the schoolyard, either. You are just stooping to the level of the bully, which solves nothing, unless you happen to believe that "might makes right". And BTW, my father was a principal and my mother was a teacher and I guarantee you, they got away with nothing in those days!
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:53 am
If anyone but Dick gets HOH, I hope people are voting for Eric to try to get Dick nominated. Even if Dani gets it. I think we need to send a message to Eric that America doesn't appreciate his abuse. That may turn him around, as most people have voted against Jen (AMerica's vote) I think Eric thinks we agree with Dick. We need to change that perception.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:56 am
What I see is escalating vindictive behavior, and I find that very concerning. I don't know if Jen is concerned, but I would hope that the BB psychiatrists/psychologists are.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:57 am
I hope children aren't seeing this or see that this is being accpeted. Any parent who would allow their child to be up late enough or not filter what their children watch aren't very responsible are they? Don't blame bb for the responsibility of the parent. we have strict bully discipline matters at school. I'm glad to hear that, but that doesn't mean that the victim of one bully isn't the victim of another. My job is to turn that victim into a youngster who can stand up for themselves in a non-threatening way to disfuse the works of the bully. It is a proven tactic.
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