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Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 5:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
I agree he is being very crass and intimidating, indeed. But, I do see it as strategy -- i.e. being bullish, crass, aggressive, etc. How far will it get him? Probably not far unless someone wants to take him to the end to insure their own win.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I guess Dick saying he wouldn't mind if Jen choked on the slop and died on the kitchen floor is gameplay as well then? After all, it would be one less contestant in the game. Easier for him to win. Gameplay.

WoodpeckeŽ
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07-16-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send WoodpeckeŽ a private message Print Post    
So Dick is playing upon "their weaknesses and emotions?" I completely disagree. He is using the safety of the BB house to verbally abusive others without fear of retribution. Game play? Nope.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
It depends on how you see "reality" tv. Truth or fiction?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
EM, the horse has long been dead. But Dick is still alive and well in the BB house. And has done nothing new to set the board afire today. This is still smoldering from days ago.

Those of us who haven't been beating the horse absolutely do not necessarily agree with what Dick has said. But I have yet to see anyone actually prove TO ME that it's verbal abuse. I've watched the feeds. I've seen Jen's reaction. Which is, mostly, nonexistent until someone comes around to fan the flames (the mustard incident comes to mind; she was pretty lackadaisical about it until Amber and Kail started in on it).

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
So, he spent all these years trying to get on BB just so he could find an excuse to be "abusive" to women without fear of retribution? You've got to be kidding me.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
you are correct, cricket, dick saying it is only gameplay to me.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    

quote:

So Dick is playing upon "their weaknesses and emotions?" I completely disagree. He is using the safety of the BB house to verbally abusive others without fear of retribution.


And you know this how? Has he ever said this? Are you actually in the house? How do you know he is "using the safety of the BB house"? This is simply your opinion, yes?

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Earthmother ... I think for some, not seeing the behaviour as abusive = condoning.

Well that would be there problem now wouldn't it?

I don't condone getting a DUI, but I can't say that person is an alcoholic.

I don't condone spanking kids, but I don't think ALL parents who do are abusive.

I don't condone Jen wearing next to nothing, but I wouldn't call her a tart.

Condoning or not condoning is not labeling..

WoodpeckeŽ
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07-16-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send WoodpeckeŽ a private message Print Post    
Yes, we post our opinions here. That is mine. And I'm positive he wouldn't get away with what he says if he was in a public setting. Like a bar, for example.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
Earthmother .. believe me, I agree with you 100%. Great examples by the way.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
But he isn't in a bar. And frankly, none of us know what rules he is operating under as none of us (that I know of) have actually seen the BB rules.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
WoodpeckeŽ Member 07-16-2002
Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:05 pm Yes, we post our opinions here. That is mine. And I'm positive he wouldn't get away with what he says if he was in a public setting. Like a bar, for example.


on that note, woodpecker, we totally agree.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think someone from TVCH needs to get on the show, once and for all, and put to rest all the "rules" issues.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I vote for C1Mag!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I absolutely do NOT vote for that!

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
ROFL! Costa, are we on the same side in anything? Maybe Top Chef?

Lilviking
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07-19-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilviking a private message Print Post    
I do not believe the bulk of Dick's behavior has any thing to do with his "gameplay". Sure, he may use some of it to intimidate others just before a competition, but the hard core stuff which so many viewers find unacceptable is simply who Dick is. With him, what you see is what you get.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
If he had broken the rules he would be gone. Kail and Jen would have seen to it. He didn't, he went very close to the line in (teagate) but did not go over it. He has been told and obviously he listened. I like the in your face, but I don't condone the filth and the comments of harm. It's his game to win with this behavior or to lose with this behavior. I still think it's game.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
LOL Hermi. More than you think! :-)

WoodpeckeŽ
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07-16-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send WoodpeckeŽ a private message Print Post    
By the way, Costacat. Just because I totally disagree with your take on Dick, it doesn't mean that I don't like you or think badly of you because of your stand. This is simply a differing of views. I hope people don't take these discussions too seriously.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
i don't take anything said in these discussions to heart or become offended by what others have to say. in fact, i have found this thread to be one of the most enlightening and refreshing of all the others in BB8. i'm glad this thread is here and welcome everyone's opinion whether it agrees with mine or not.

WoodpeckeŽ
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07-16-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send WoodpeckeŽ a private message Print Post    
"If he had broken the rules he would be gone. Kail and Jen would have seen to it."

I guess if Dick dumped tea on Jen everyday, it would be OK under the rules. Or is it once a week? We need to know.

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
I don't see his actions as game play either. IMO he didn't just learn to treat people like he's treating Jen. I am so glad she's not giving into this disgusting behavior of his. Sad thing is he thinks it's ok to do this...and knowing that all of America is seeing it to...just doesn't make sense for him to think this is "ok". He's made his bed and I hope they send him to sleep for a long long time. I don't want to see this guy in the sequester house. Hopefully they will get him out before they start going to the house.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Awww... Woody likes me! :-)

Thanks, though, for that. Some of the posts here seem pretty equivalent to verbal abuse. I know I'm in the minority, but it's nice to know we just agree to disagree!!!!