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Snee
Member
06-26-2001
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 11:56 pm
his behaviour disgusts me.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 12:14 am
He has asked her "Do you enjoy verbal abuse like this?" And, "Do you want more verbal abuse?" The words he uses and phrases he comes up with are not foreign to him. I couldn't think up those words or images. I think he is used to talking to women like that. JMO
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 12:16 am
I COSIGN that Snee!!!!
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 12:43 am
LOL you are really reaching, EM! I meant it SF. Kail was in her room, Zach was in and out of the kitchen, Jen and Dick were in the kitchen, we all know where Nick and Dani were and the rest were in the HOH trashing all the ones downstairs. Dick was making his tea, Jen was putting the food away. He couldn't find the sugar so he went to the storeroom and she followed to help him find it, when he came out of the storeroom with the sugar she followed him back to the kitchen. They were not friendly but they were cordial. She was asking him questions and he was giving her one word answers, but she certainly was not in fear for her safety. When he went off to play games with Zach she went upstairs.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 4:13 am
Defining abuse is relative to one's personal experiences and perspectives. Some people are labled abusive for simply hurting another person's feelings, while other people would need to produce medically proven bruises (physical or emotional) before the title "abuser" is bestowed upon them. My personal experiences and perspectives puts my definition somewhere in the middle of that range. I disagree with the statement that a persons actions outside the house has nothing to do with the behavior inside the house, especially when it comes to labeling someone with the harsh title of ABUSER. Abusers are not created overnight. If Dick was what I feel an abuser is, there would have been signs outside the house long before now. When Dani first realized Dick was in the house, she related many negative terms to describe her father. Abuser was not one of them. Furthermore, if Dick had a history of abuse, I do not believe BB would have overlooked the history for the sake of "ratings". No way would CBS want to risk the web of liability and litigation that would follow should something bad happen. Dick has said and done some very negative things in the house, there is no denying that, but I think its the way Dick looks and dresses (in conjuction with his negativity), as well as his "in your face" attitude that have made it easy to label him an abuser. I do not think the term abuser would be so easily conveyed if Dick had a more "acceptable" attitude and manner of dress. Its a shame really because the only person Dick is hurting in that house is himself. I'm with Em on this issue. I do not see Dick as an "abuser" and I don't think its a fair to label him as such.
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Cathlene
Member
07-28-2007
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 6:47 am
I don't think Dick has a dislike for ALL women...just a certain type. After all, his daughter is a woman. I think Dick has run into a number of women in his life and his experiences/observations have not always been positive. Not to say he hadn't contributed in some way.
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Bubba
Member
07-29-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 6:50 am
If someone leaves his keys in the car is he asking for someone to steal it and if someone steals it is he innocent because the person was asking for it? I would never speak to a woman, child, man (whether in a game or real live) like Dick does. When I am watching feeds now, when the feed is on Dick I go to another feed, if he is on all of them, I turn it off and go do something else. I don't care what they are like outside of the house, what I care about is what I am watching and I do not enjoy watching a 44 year old man verbelly abuse a 23 year old woman, not entertainment to me.
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Jushvnfn
Member
07-29-2006
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:20 am
I don't like seeing anyone verbally abused, but I think they have all jumped on that band wagon many times. Even egged him on. Look how they laid up in that bed last night and bashed everyone. They all have mob mentality syndrome! At least Dick has tried to make things fun with his little pranks!
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Cathlene
Member
07-28-2007
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:21 am
wait...in the context of this game only, I take back my exception.
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Lucas
Member
07-01-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:23 am
The article hits on the key to why I dislike Dick. We are all led to believe by his dr's and the bb theme, that he is in this house to rebuild his relationship with his daughter. Despite her cheering him on with Jen (which is vile given her own comments about her relationship with her father), Dick proves over and over again repairing things with Danielle is impossible. Danielle and Dick get along just fine when they interact as friends. It is whenever Dick moves to Dad mode that the spoiled Danille come out. This to me makes so much sense, and despite being annoyed by her, I can understand. Allowing Dick and supporting Dick to act so vile with jen is something that Danielle seems to be able to accept as long as she views Dick as a friend. (She has called him a mean friend herself). But she cannot seem to blend his behavior to that of a father. In there lies the key. Dick may be without seeing it, duplicating many scenes he and Danille have had in the past. She has commented on mean things he has said according to her she will never be able to forget. Dick has yet to grasp the main thing a child wants from a parent is safety and security and unconditional love. Everything he does with Jen, and Kail at times demonstrates the opposite of safety, security and unconditional love. His attempts at tender moments, hugs ect, which some applaud him for actually turn my stomach more than some of his outbursts. Dick is so self involved, he continues to say he wants a better relationship with his daughter, yet is unable to see the key is his erratic and bullying behavior is EXACTLY why he is estranged from his daughter. Each time he goes off on jen, my guess is Danille is one step further away as when they are out of that house, she will no doubt turn the behaviors she is now cheering, back in his face. It is an incredibly unhealthy dynamic, one in which jen is treated very badly, but the ultimate victim is the 20 year old, vulerable child of Dicks. Many have tried to justivy Dick's behavior by blaming his actions on Jen, Kail and Danille herself. The dynamic between Dick and Danille has been going on for years, back when she was a young girl. She is stuck at 12, and Dick helped keep her from growing, by continuing to stamp her down. Why would she want to grow up? It will be awfully difficult for this girl to mature and become a woman of strength when she is fully aware of her fathers feelings and treatment of such women. Staying young, stuck up and snotty may not help things, but it certainly keeps Dick continuing to try to mend fences, and also I am sure provides a great safety net and protector for his daughter. They both should be taken from the house, the whole situation is vile. No young woman, 20, 21 or 14 should have to hear their father screaming in utter hate or rage screaming another woman is a <77>. If Dick does not see how disgusting this is, particulary in a situation he claims is to help his relationship with his daughter, has no hope in making things better until he grows up himself.
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Jeannie23
Member
07-16-2007
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:26 am
Lucas- you are so correct. ITA
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:28 am
quote:We are all led to believe by his dr's and the bb theme, that he is in this house to rebuild his relationship with his daughter.
Really? I didn't know that. I thought he was in the house to win a half million bucks. He didn't KNOW his daughter was gonna be in there till he saw her on the screen (or learned about the twist while he was in the HOH room). BECAUSE she is in the house, it's an opportunity to talk to her. That's it. He'd like to take advantage of that. That's all. BTW, calling someone a "mean friend." Big whoop. Don't we all have mean friends? When Daniele calls her father that, she sounds like she's 13 years old. She sounds pouty, almost like this friend went shopping with her and told her that she looked ugly in whatever she bought. So not an issue.
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Lucas
Member
07-01-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:41 am
Dick has said over and over in his dr's, often crying about his main goal is to rebuild his relationship with Danielle. The mean friend is nothing Costa, if on it's own, but is more key that you give it credit for given Danille's frequent use of friend when talking about her father. So much more.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:45 am
lucas i agree
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Mssas
Member
08-04-2006
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:50 am
Absolutely AMEN Lucas!
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Bbdi
Member
09-01-2006
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 7:59 am
I hope you're not thinking I'm a dick supporter :::levity break::: funniest thing I've read yet!!
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Bbdi
Member
09-01-2006
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 8:04 am
As far as my feelings about Dick, yes, I believe he has serious issues with women but I don't know if that translates to hatred of women, but the guy's obviously got issues in that area. I think his behavior toward Jen is obviously verbal abuse, how is it not? And if he were following her around doing that out in the real world, he'd be arrested. But he's doing it in the context of a competition, and taunting is apparently allowed. But I also believe that BB is concerned about it, by the comments Dick has made in the last couple days about BB telling him to tone it down (in so many words), and by the fact that he has tried not to escalate things with her. I don't think he's doing that because he suddenly found his lost mind and decided that verbally abusing Jen was a wrong thing to do, I think he was told to stop it, and he's trying.
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 8:06 am
Great post Lucas. As you imply, part of the *problem* with casting D&D is that Dick is first there to win a half mil. It's only secondary that he wants to fix his relationship with Daniele. Even though Daniele seems to support or accept his treatment of Jen, it has to play on her subconsciously.
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Flyincows
Member
07-17-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 8:43 am
Excellent analysis Lucas. I totally agree!
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Needlenose
Member
09-16-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 8:46 am
Thank you for sharing your wisdom Kminfinity . . . I so look forward to all of your insights on each thread.
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Jeannie23
Member
07-16-2007
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 8:52 am
I agree Km and I never did see the rational that BB's main goal was to rebuild some father/daughter relationship. My guess is when auditioning him they asked if he had any problem about being as obnoxious and abusive as possible without actually hitting someone and he said "this is right up my ally." He did not know his daughter would be there but as we have all seen, it hasn't stopped his behaviour.
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Babsbunny3
Member
07-28-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 8:54 am
I think it makes sense that Dick's first priority is winning the money. First of all, winning the money would also win a lot of Daniele's love. I can tell. Second of all, if his first priority was fixing this relationship, then he wouldn't be on BB right now. Third, Daniele's first priority is HERSELF. Her second priority is the Money. Her 100th priority is fixing her relationship with her father. So, I get it. If winning the money is NOT your first priority, then don't go on the show. (Um, NICK!)
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 9:00 am
winning the money would also win a lot of Daniele's love. I can tell. Why do you think that? I'm just curious..Is it because you think that Danielle will figure Dad will help her out financially, and that's what she equates to love??
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 9:06 am
Since the surface cause of Dick and Daniele's disagreement appeared to revolve around money, that is not a bad assumption.
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Jeannie23
Member
07-16-2007
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 9:07 am
He's not going to win unless everyone else in that house is a total idiot. The only time that completely happened is the year they let Maggie get as far as she did and won.
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