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Caprica
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02-10-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
I think Eric has done some really nasty stuff that were not part of his AP duties and those things will be his undoing .The only reason I ague about AP is because I think it is unreasonable to expect him not to try to save his own butt and try to get his enemies voted out.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I don't think so Lafatme, I think it proves that some don't want our player to play against us, and expect us to give him money for working against us.

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
They knew that he is voting for America? I missed that. I saw them trying to figure out why he is playing the way he is but I missed them figuring it all out. As I said earlier, Dick has come the closest and he knows something is up. He's just not thinking out of the box enough. He might still come up with it being a twist before it is announced. Dick is VERY observant, he picks up on the most things in the house that are just not quite right. If anyone can figure it out, it's Dick.

I've read the book Big Brother and I have to say that from the very first season of this show I was always wondering why the diary room wasn't influencing more and causing more paranoia.

Kellirippa
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07-10-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellirippa a private message Print Post    
If AP was supposed to simply do what ever the voting public decided by majority, they would have simply put in a mole rather than choose one of the actual players and offer him a monetary reward should he choose to complete a task...no?

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
Caprica, I agree that he will and should try to save his own behind. His hands are tied to a degree, however.

It's just that when he signed on the dotted line to be on this show, he agreed to play for America with what we vote for him to do. It's too bad that he has to sacrifice his game for us, but that's what he's agreed to do.

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
The only reason that there is suspicion on Eric by D/D is that he gets our vote and then he has to change tracks and that is a very suspicious thing. Their suspicion rose exponentially when he switched from wanting to vote out Kail instead of Nick. So, by him doing what we voted for, they started to figure it out.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
They wouldn't have been his enemies Caprica if he would have done the job he was given by America. He went after Nick for personal reasons, not based on any of the previous votes by us. He made the choice to remove us by stamping Nick too soon, and therefore not being able to get Kail removed, but get a pass by saying "I tried". He made sure the vote for Nick was in before he saw what we wanted. He is doing the same thing now. He is villifying the very people who caught on so he can vote get them nominated and evicted no matter what America wants. It is not what he was hired to do.

Streetsmart
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08-06-2006

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Streetsmart a private message Print Post    
He wasnt HIRED by CBS. He doesnt work for CBS or even us for that matter. He works for himself and tries to do things we want him to do. If he is successfull he wins $10, 000 if he doesnt OH WELL.

He is an individual in the game trying to win $ 500, 000 and is at a HUGE disadvantage by people trying to make him do things that are not advantageous to him.

Ddfan
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08-04-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ddfan a private message Print Post    
I guess Dustin won the AP and this is a conversation of Eric's LAME attempt to help out us "America"

Eric told Jess that if the votes are all against Dick, he would consider casting a sole vote for Dick. Jess told him that might not be smart. - NashPreds99
Eric told Jess that if the votes are all against Dick, he would consider casting a sole vote for Dick. Jess told him that might not be smart.
Fri 3:07 AM BBTEric told Jess that she should consider putting up Dustin. She and he both laughed it off.
Eric told Jess that she should consider putting up Dustin. She and he both laughed it off.


So great BB/CBS: he is making a mockery out of AP

Nutsy
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08-14-2001

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nutsy a private message Print Post    
They have all been HIRED by CBS to entertain the audience as they try to win the prize. He agreed to be AP. There are consequences to that.

Kellirippa
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07-10-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellirippa a private message Print Post    
In the beginning of the season did they not say that Eric had been a huge fan of the show and had a very specific strategy before being chosen as AP?

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
I'll wait to see how it unfolds. He might get Dustin to agree to be a pawn to backdoor someone else. I don't know how much better I would do as America's Player.

As a side note, when Dick was yelling at Eric in the hot tub, in the 2nd session, he was yelling at him about his working in production and there was a discussion about not talking about that. Which show production did Dick know that Eric worked for?

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
He wasnt HIRED by CBS.

His own family is saying that he was put in that house for the purpose of AP, not a regular player. If he hadn't agreed he would not have been a hg..so what makes anyone think he should be working for himself.

Nutsy
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08-14-2001

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nutsy a private message Print Post    
Even if AP had a specific strategy before going in, doesn't the very fact of him being AP throw that out the window? He's agreed to do as the audience wishes - or at least agreed to try. How can you ahave a preformed strategy when from week to week you don't know how the audience is going to influence your actions/decisions?

Kellirippa
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07-10-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellirippa a private message Print Post    
Did he agree to trying, or did he agree that he would be paid if he tried and not paid if he didn't, and that choice was up to him?

Nutsy
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08-14-2001

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nutsy a private message Print Post    
I thought the arrangement was that he would attempt the tasks and get paid only if successful. I'm not sure he has a choice to try or not try - where's the fun in that anyway?! Vote America, and if and only if AP likes your choice, he'll give it a whirl...

At the very least he's agreed to give up the right to vote as he chooses. How can you have a preplanned strategy that plays out when you have no control over your own vote?

Kellirippa
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07-10-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellirippa a private message Print Post    
I see what you're saying Nutsy, I just wonder if being chosen to take on the challenge of being AP didn't throw a bit of a monkey wrench into his own personal plan and he may be trying to incorporate his own strategy along with being AP?

Nutsy
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08-14-2001

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nutsy a private message Print Post    
Kellirippa - nothing to stop him from trying that to be sure, it's just not "america's" responsibility to help him along with it, he's supposed to be working for us, not the other way around.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
If Dustin was the vote, Eric should be able to swing Jessica's nomination. Dustin has already (probably in jest, but still, he said it) mentioned being a pawn. Say to Jessica to put Dustin and Dick up. At the veto, if Dick wins it, tell Dick that they will put up Danielle and she'll go. If Dustin wins it he removes himself and Danielle goes up. If Dustin and Dick remain Dick goes, or so he can tell Jessica. (The only problem would be if Danielle won it and took off Dick, but Eric can forget to mention that to Jessica.) I think Eric could push for Dustin and not look too weird.

Kellirippa
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07-10-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellirippa a private message Print Post    
I see you're point of view Nutsy, I guess I just think good on him for trying to work it to his advantage...

Kaili
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08-31-2000

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
To do the AP job the way I believe it was meant to be played, Eric needed to keep himself as a more neutral player- one of the swing vote style players. Many have played that role well- look at Jun! Eric, however, has gotten himself deep into one side of a very divided house. How can he really sucessfully carry out America's wishes (his role) when he has become a major player on one side of the house? His job isn't to make one little half-hearted comment, call it an attemp, and get credit for it. The question isn't "Who should Eric suggest be nominated?"- He is supposed to be TRYING to get that person nominated. He's not doing his job. It's gotten to the point, because of his own choices in how he's attempting to play Big Brother, that his duties as AP are way on the backburner. They're a side thought and it's going to get harder for him to be genune in his attempts because he's now seen as a core alliance member of the LNC. If he had kept himself out of all of the drama, he would be able to continue "working for you, America" without a problem.

And I have an issue with the fact that they never even showed on the show who won the last AP poll (the butt kissing for votes one) or how he reacted to opening it and seeing the name. I would like to see him open it on TV and say whatever he said- maybe it was "I can't/won't do this". I want to see him flat out NOT do what America voted for him to do.

And I am sick of his weird eyebrow facial expression thing. :-) Just sayin'

Nutsy
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08-14-2001

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nutsy a private message Print Post    
Kaili - I know - the whole thing about the "flattery" task is QUITE annoying. How can CBS just ignore it? I suppose if we all tuned out that would be the end of it, but fat chance of that happening!

Kaili
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08-31-2000

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
And you know the regular TV show only viewers had to notice that being omitted. They had to. And you would think it would bother them too. They, I'm sure, do make up some reasonably sized portion of the voting audience.

Kellirippa
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07-10-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellirippa a private message Print Post    
well, at least this twist has people talking, some of the "twists" from previous seasons have simply crashed and burned.

Maybe if the player is supposed to take the role of America's Puppet, they'd have done better to simply hire an actor to play that role and give the $10,000 to charity for each successful task.

As it is, being America's Player is open to interpretation, for us and for Eric. It certainly makes for interesting water cooler discussion.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Has one of Eric's tasks been to form an alliance with a certain group of players? Has one of his tasks been to help insure a certain House guest get to the Final 2?

Has it been stated on CBS website that Eric is not a regular player and he will not try to win the game?


NO