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Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
Actually, she didn't even quote all of the stuff Dick said. I didn't see his comment about douching with Drano. I thought the article was a very mild description of what I saw.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
She has not been in that house, and she does not say that she knows him personally outside of that house. When he mutters to himself he is very cognizant that the cameras are on. He thinks he's cool, but it's not cool to act like this, but again her article was an opinion based on what she heard him say in a game. If I hear one thing from his friends or his son that claims he is abusive and this is how he acts at home, I will be more than happy to put up the white flag. It hasn't happened yet.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Ditto EM. I haven't heard that this is really and truly what Dick is like outside the house. Besides Daniele whining that he's a "mean friend" (and really, what the heck does that mean?).

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I thought the article was informative, accurate and well-written. She didn't fabricate anything and stated everything in the order it happened. She got many, many e-mails. I wish I had seen that sight the night it happened. She would have received an e-mail from me.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
e-mails from who? Those who don't like him, or who have medically diagnosed him? I never said she fabricated anything <57> I said she has NO PROOF that this is who he really is and she was just reporting what everyone else who has the feeds already knows.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
She has enough time on her hands to take all the comments and put in order, so big deal! Personally I think that's obsessive about a game show. Someone said earlier, that some need a hobby, and I think that's true.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
I saw the article as simply propaganda for those who dislike Dick. Like EM said, she was just resaying what we already know.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Excellent article. She had accurate quotes to support her opinions.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I saw the article as being inciting (not insightful). Nothing she said was anything we didn't already know (when she discussed the facts). The rest? Heck, I'm a writer. I can write good, too.

Jen
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07-27-2003

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
I don't think it matters what it's like outside the house. It matters with the evidence of what he's done in the house. Which is listed in the article.

Even Dick's son finds his actions deplorable. Yet, some want the abuse to continue?

I just don't get it.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
What does Dick's behavior "outside the house" have to do anything?

Dick is abusive IN the house and we have all seen it.

Changing the discussion to what Dick is like "outside the house" doesn't change how abusive we have seen Dick being over and over and over....IN the house.

If you want us all to assume that none of these people are their true selves while inside the BB house, then I guess we all should assume the following:

Jameka must not be religious nor does she believe in god.

Amber must be a well adjusted, stable person that never cries and rarely shows emotion.

Dustin must be straight and very homophobic.

Kail must be a lesbian.

Daniele must be a mature adult woman who would never whine or act spoiled or use people.

Jessica must be in a constant state of hysteria who can't keep herself from getting emotional

ETC...

Of course, none of those are true and no one here think they even might be.

For some reason, Dick gets a free pass because "this is a game" and he couldn't possibly actually be as abusive as we see him being day in and day out.

Nobody can "act" that cruel and that hateful and that misogynistic without years of practice or without actually feeling those things in his heart.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"I saw the article as simply propaganda for those who dislike Dick. Like EM said, she was just resaying what we already know"

Kearie, not everyone has seen or heard all that.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
CNDEARISO....

I noticed way up above, that you said you FINALLY had seen the youTube of the "tea incident", and you saw no abuse....

Well...IMHO, the ABUSE and physical intimidation happened right BEFORE the "tea incident" in the round bedroom when Dick went in to find something in a bag, and Jen and Kail were lying on the beds, minding their own business, and he started the vulgar tirade that is QUOTED in JOY's article above....he didn't pour th etea on Jen until Jen went into the kitrchen where Amber and Daielle were, and Nick and Dick RAN inside from outdoors to "stir the pot"....

Please go see THAT YOUtube, the one in the round bed room, and THEN tell us if you still find EDick NOT ABUSIVE....

I SAW it LIVE and was so upset and shocked that I had tears rolling down my face....It infuriated me....His behavior was VICIOUS!

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
Nobody can say unless you have been in that house, lived there for that long, how they would act in there. I could say I would be the best player in that house, my game would rock and I wouldn't let anyone get to me; however, I can get into the house and my game be messed up from day one and there is someone in there that I don't like...it is just to gray. Maybe Dick is stressed beyond belief, I believe many people would be in that situation. He doesn't handle stress well, that is not a reason to be kicked out of the BB house.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
It does matter if it's inside or outside the house when labeling someone an abuser and a neglectful parent. Did his son say he was an abuser? Did his son say he was a neglectful parent?

1..Dick's behavior has been horrible.
2..No one has said they condone his behavior.
3..He has been labeled some pretty ugly things.
4..Some have posted really ugly and hurtful things about him without proof, based on a game.
5..No one has come forward from the outside to indicate that any of the labels are true.
6..BB does not deem his actions as abusive, so the law inside the house, based on their contracts and the BB rules are all that is important to the game.
7..Inside the game BB decides..outside the game society decides.

Since we don't know anything about this person outside of this house, BB's decision is what matters. Apparently they feel the same way I do.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 8:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
Obviously.....(And they like the ratings money!)

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 9:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I would think that's why they produce this show. I don't think it's done for free entertainment, it's a business and drama sells..

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 9:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"It does matter if it's inside or outside the house when labeling someone an abuser"

Why? I have seen and heard him being abusive in the house and others have seen and heard him referring to his own actions "verbal abuse".

Dick labeled himself. Some of us just agree with him.

I agree, EM, apparently BB is willing to just give Dick two warnings rather than eject him. That doesn't mean they think his behavior is not abusive, it only means that they think they can manage him better than they have done so far.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 9:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
"In real life" if Dick talked to me the way he has talked to Jen, OR if he poured a glass of iced tea over my head, he'd be singing soprano so fast he wouldn't know what hit him. I admire Jen for her ability to brush him off of her shoulder. I would never have that sort of patience, game or not.

Lucas
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07-01-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 9:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lucas a private message Print Post    
But his behavior is condoned.
The term abuse is mocked, people laugh, cheer him on, blame the victim, blame others for not stepping in, remain a Dick supporter

Whether you think it is direct or indirect, he and his behavior are for sure supported.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 9:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I hope you're not thinking I'm a dick supporter (ahem) Lucas! I don't know why I quoted (in real life), because on the show I would have done it too! I guess I didn't clarify that because there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of me ever being interested in doing a show like that!

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 10:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Jen certainly isn't scared of him, she has had no problem tonight being alone with him and talking to him. I'm not sure if I believe they are really enemies. I'm thinking that they might just be in this together.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 10:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
LOL you are really reaching, EM! :-)

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 11:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
I think anyone who has read Dick's blog on his Myspace would have to conclude that the crude sexual/sexist insults he hurled at Jen are part of his normal vocabulary.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 11:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
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