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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 5: Dick going to be remembered for being bad player?: Archive through August 10, 2007 users admin

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Marksman
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05-04-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
Admittedly I am no fan of Dick, but analyzing what he has managed to not do this season, I am starting to believe he might go down as one of the worst, if not the worst players in Big Brother History.

Since he has been in a position of power almost his entire time in the house, he has had several objectives. For 3 weeks he wanted either Kail or Jen gone. During that time neither one of them went anywhere. It was not until after he did not want them gone that one of them was sent home. After that he wanted Eric gone, and Eric stayed. It looks like he very well could go home this week.

Has anyone ever had as much power and control of the game as Dick and done so poorly with it? I can't think of anyone who has even come close.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
Worst player in history?? Seriously?? No, they're have been worse players...very worse players...

Against...just because you don't have your way, doesn't mean you don't have game. Things didn't go his way and now he is the worst player in BB history......

Penpoint
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03-27-2001

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Penpoint a private message Print Post    
Dick is a "Bad Boy" but not a bad player. He hasn't achieved his objectives, but he has kept things stirred up. However, I would accept that he is probably the angriest player we've seen in the US Big Brother casts.

Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 2:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carrie92 a private message Print Post    
Agree with Penpoint. Saying Dick is a bad player, is like calling Erika BB4/BBAS a good player.

He understands the game, plays it well, plays it his way, just isn't very nice about it. It's okay to change your mind in the game. Many times people realize that their main target is perhaps not their biggest threat.
Although, Eric would never have been a threat to Dick, had D/D not jumped all over him. Eric was happy to be aligned with them, and would have protected them. I think that was the biggest mistake in Dick's game, but it happens just about every season, so that doesn't make him a bad player.

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 3:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
Dick will be remembered for who he is.

Those for him can remember him the way they choose. Those appaled by him will rememeber him the way they chose.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 4:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
he actually isn't the worst player he is the one that will be known for his rants and cussing etc. If he could have toned it down he would have been seen as a better player. But seeing what his friends said what you see is what you get! ANd even I was surprised he really did know all those people.

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 4:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
I, for one, was not star struck by who ED knows or who knows ED.

ED in his life and ED in house are different.

The same goes for all of them.

The house changes people.

We need to look at Dick in the house, not Dick outside of the house.

It's a game. Look at the game.

Dbald
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08-04-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 5:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dbald a private message Print Post    
Agree Penpoint...not only does he stir things up...he is the majority reason behind the houseguests second guessing each other...he keeps them on their toes. Personally, with Dick sure to go this week....I think we all have a boring, I love you, I love you, I love you Dustin game to look forward to the rest of the year and I for the first time in big brother history consider turning my tv and computer off.

As for the people he knows...I think it was great to see he really does know them and what they think of him. I actually can see him as a softy outside the house. He just has that passionate personality. Far as I could tell....that was the best part of last nights show!

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 5:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
IMO he's played poorly most of the game. His social skills are lacking in the game. He was over confident, which is never a good thng in this game. And as of yesterday he seems to have given up so I'll add quitter to his BB resume.

But worst player I say close but no cigar. Allthough I find him close to the grossest player in a long time.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 5:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Actually, ED is a very good player, and not one of the worst ever. His approach (being openly caustic) is new and different but it kept the HGs off balance. ED and Dani screwed up by voting out someone that was clearly on their side. They should have forced him into an agreement with them, and then went against the 5 LNCs. Unfortunately for them, when they finally realized the LNC were not really on their side, it was too late. But, that doesn't make him one of the worst players ever, and clearly not THE worst. He made an error, the impact of which may be the same as Kaysar's, but Kaysar ultimately was a much worse player. Kaysar KNEW the other side was against him and he STILL gave the win to Jen. ED didn't know the LNC were against him until AFTER his mistake. I think it makes Kaysar worse in that he knew what was going on and STILL gave in to it. Kaysar was just more well liked by the general viewing audience.

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 6:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
Dick will be remembered for being a bold, brash, colorful player who took the verbal/mental game over the line. He made some key mistakes as already mentioned including voting out an ally and, along with Dani, not securing votes needed to evict a target. He talked too much and listened too little. As a player his emotions dominated his brains. I started out liking him a great deal but ultimately was disappointed in him. I wish him well and hope he and Dani can work out their personal issues outside the house.

Auntfer
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08-24-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 6:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntfer a private message Print Post    
Dick could have won this game. His verbal abuse is what will get him kicked out.
I have heard people mention they would want Dick sitting next to them in the final 2 to insure that they win. Why would you want to reward someone for verbaly abusing almost everyone in the house? A second place finish gets more than anyone else will get. I don't like calling people out but I understand that is his game play. If he could leave it at that, he would have won.
The only thing good I see that could come out of this is if he and his daughter go to counseling, she has video proof how he treats people.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 6:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
I don't think any of these houseguests will care if Dick gets $50K as long as they win $500K.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Interesting theory, Marksman.

So much control; so little to show for it.

Although he did get rid of Nick so his daughter had to turn to him. That manipulation of her seems to have worked.

Neosporen
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08-18-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 6:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neosporen a private message Print Post    
Ed is opne of the more popular BB players...I personally do not think he tool ANYTHING over th eline since it is a game and there is no line...it was his game play from day one... and it DOES work.. look at how flustered people get... Jameka last night tried to go off on him and ended up whimpering...and heck there is still a good chance he and Dani will stay in the game after Dustin VOLUNTEERD to go up on th eblock with him if POV is used...Dustin would be out of there so fast he wouldnt' know what to think...

What555456
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06-14-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 7:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
No strategy works unless it gets you to the end.

And if it gets you thrown out 1/2 way through, it was a better strategy than 1/2 the players and a worse one than the other 1/2 of the players.

Looks like Dick will be leaving at about the same point in the show that all of the old people get kicked out each year; maybe a week or two later, but his strategy (assuming it even is a strategy and not a personality defect) has been no better than theirs.

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
Neosporen, I wasn't saying 'over the line' as my own opinion of Dick as a viewer. I agree with you that it's within the rules. What I wanted to convey is that Dick's behavior toward the other HGs was not good game play because they don't like it and want to kick him out the door because of it.

Neosporen
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08-18-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neosporen a private message Print Post    
ummm..I don't even think they don't like it.. I think they are using that as an excuse..but they were fine with it when it was directed at others...Dustin even told him to keep it up...
and somethign they have not even considered is that some of them WILL be in sequestor with him, so WHY make an enemy...
if they succeed and get ED, Dani, Jen and Zach out..those 4 control their fate..THEY have the votes to pick who THEY want to win...the "5" are making enemy's they don't need to make...

Neosporen
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08-18-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 7:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neosporen a private message Print Post    
heck those 4 could possibly even say..nope, not going to vote for any of them and walk away no pay....

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I think Dick will be remembered for his personality more than the game--I do think that getting rid of Nick was his biggest mistake and shows that he cares more about building a relationship with his daughter than winning the BB game.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Dick is not a bad player. His strategy has been working so far. Unfortunately Daniele being in the house has hurt his game. The only way Dick would be considered a bad player is if his jury vote is based on emotion and not on who is the best player. By the way I don’t like Dick but he is playing the game and I don’t like how he plays but he IS playing the game.

Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
I love watching Dick play the game. He is very funny and entertaining. The house will be dead when he goes and I doubt I will watch the show.I do not like watching people pick their noses If I wanted to watch adults act like 13 year olds I can watch Nickelodeon .

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I see ED wanting Nick gone less of him wanting to "protect" Dani and more that he wanted Dani for himself and was afraid that if Nick stayed Dani's loyalty would be to Nick not Dick.

I'll remember Dick as someone who wasn't able to read the crowd and who had almost no social skills in the game. And as one of the more unlikable players that BB cast.

And in a way he's got to be happy to be leaving I have to assume is cigs are running out.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Dick is the best player ever!

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
I have to say I think Dick is a lousy player for many of the reasons listed here. He never gets his target out. His behavior has made his own daughter a target. He's not even appropriate viewing for us, since his rants and raves are so foul and his voice so grating that countless viewers would rather turn off the feeds than listen to him repeat himself endlessly. If your behavior openly makes you the biggest target, you're not a good player.

I also thought Kaysar was a lousy player. Funny how the most inept players often think they're game geniuses.

The true "best players," by definition, win the game or at least make it near the end. ED is about to buy the farm.