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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"Sanfran, ever since he began ranting on Jen, Dick's name has been brought up about voting out. You seriously think these people, who talk behind people's back and say something else to their face, would have actually kept Dick to the final seven??"

Going by their voting record, think they might have. The LNC was voting together each week, but since Dick split up the LNC, we'll never know.

The plan was that after everyone except the 7 members of the LNC was gone, they were on their own to regroup however they saw fit.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
See, but then they would have to stick to honesty and honestly, maybe (a huge stretch) Jameka would be the only player to play with honesty...that's a huge stretch. Those others would have voted Dick out in a heartbeat...

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
And they WILL!

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Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
That's true, EM...I forgot about that...but remember, also, EM...Eric just went from a "bad person" to then "good people". That notion and God are the reasons....

Mandana4evah
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07-08-2005

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mandana4evah a private message Print Post    
Well Sanfran, I have a different outlook about Dick.
I totally feel he is so 'evel' only to be a deflection for Danielle. His goal is to have Dani win.
I think it is a possibility that Dick would become a different personality with Danielle gone.
He may calm down, or he may go so overboard as to get asked to leave, who knows. Either way, if Dani were to go, Dick really has no reason to be uber evel anymore unless he chooses to 'play' for someone else.

If Dick won POV he would use it to save Dani.
If you want to hurt Dick, or change his behavior, get rid of Dani.
As a bb player, f you want to use Dick as a shield, get rid of Dani.
As long as Dick is in the house, it's like a free ride for weeks.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"I totally feel he is so 'evel' only to be a deflection for Danielle."

If that's what he's been doing, all he accomplished was to ruin Daniele's chances to win this game. His nastiness has tainted Daniele's game whether it was intended to or not.

If you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.

Mandana4evah
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07-08-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mandana4evah a private message Print Post    
lol!

As I said, I think Dick's gameplan is very different from the norm.

I totally have convinced myself that Dick thinks he is helping Dani getting ahead by being the person we all love to hate.

This is jmo, but I see him as truly thinking that people will not blame Dani for his behavior because we were all set up to believe that they were estranged and not working together in this game.

If we are to believe that scenerio, then Dani obviously cannot be held responsible for her father's behavior in the game, when in real life, she was the one who chose not to have anything to do with him because of his behavior for whatever length of time.

Now, if you choose to believe what I believe, then you think they've been working together since before day one and in Dick's mind, he is being the ultimate scapegoat of 'evel' to Dani's innocent wronged little angel act.

It's a classic 'good cop / bad cop' routine, but with a twist.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 7:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
So it's still a D/D nomination?

Doublethink
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08-23-2006

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Doublethink a private message Print Post    
I'm worried that Jen might go this week. If one of the D/D team wins POV and gets off the block, then Jessica has said she will put up Jen for replacement. So we'll have D/D and Zach voting to evict Jen, and probably also AP voting for Jen's eviction. It will all depend on Jessica to break the tie. Jessica doesn't like Jen because of lies that Eric has told her. Will she vote out Jen or D/D?

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Doublethink,

then they would have defeated their purpose entirely. Their aim is to evict Dick (not entirely smart) or at least one of the Donatos.
If they backdoor Jen they would have the two they most wanted out still there.
They would admit their own defeat.

Doublethink
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08-23-2006

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Doublethink a private message Print Post    
Spunky - I sure hope you're right, but I'm just not sure about Jessica. If she really wants Dick out, and doesn't want the spotlight on her, she should put Zach up and not Jen if she needs to replace someone. She just might end up having to break the tie. I don't trust that America will vote for Dick or Daniele to be evicted. (Of course, Jessica doesn't know about AP, but she has to know Zach won't vote out Dick or Daniele)

Delilah
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07-08-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 11:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Delilah a private message Print Post    
I had heard that Dustin offered to Jessica that he be put up against Dick because he was so confident and because he wanted to stick it to him (paraphrasing).

Can anyone confirm that Dustin offered this?
And if so, is Jessica considering it at all?

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
Yes he did...last night...will she do it?? Probably not

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 11:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
I know that Dustin keeps saying you have to play an aggressive game...but I don't know if I'd have that much confidence. Others may decide Dustin is too much of their "leader" and mutiny on him. However, I don't think that would probably happen since they realize that they need to split up the father/daughter team before it gets too far into the game.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
what has jessica been saying? all the live feeds have been about dick and daniele. have they spoken with jessica?

i would love a jessica,jen,zach and dick alliance. dani can go home as she is not really playing the game. she spent the first weeks with nick and now hates everyone in the house. she has not even tried to get to know anyone.

i wish eric would help jessica do a dustin/amber nomination.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think winning two POVs and a very difficult HOH comp could be considered playing the game.. but anyway..

Jessica said to Dustin Wednesday that she would put up Dick and Daniele and as of late last night that was the last thing I heard. But I certainly missed (purposely and due to absence, and due to her being off the feeds) plenty of conversation.

Dustin DID mention how delicious it would be to be on the block with Dick and to have Dick voted out 6-1 (he assumes Daniele would vote to keep Dick) and just how humiliating that would be.

After midnight, Eric presumably got the results of America's Player voting and at some point when only he and Jessica were in HOH, he did bring up what Dustin had said and said wouldn't that be great.

Jess agreed and then quickly said it could backfire because then Daniele might play for POV and win and take Dick off the block, which would mean neither Dick nor Daniele would go home. And Eric had to agree.

I wish the same, Zmom!

But I'm really confident it will be Dick and Daniele.

Dick is dead set on being the one going to Mexico or wherever and has already asked Zach, Jen and Daniele (if she gets to vote) to vote him out. He's planning on going all out in attacking people to ensure that he is the one voted out.

But Jess isn't the only one to consider Daniele more of a threat.

A Zach - Dustin conversation brought out that Dustin actually thinks that Dick and Daniele might vote differently on the jury. Zach assured him that he thinks they will vote as a block. (and indeed that is their plan, and they've already realized that if all on the jury Dick, Daniele, Zach and Jen could choose the winner.

I think that probably bodes well for Jessica.. if the votes were today with those four on the jury I think Jess would win over any one of Eric, Dustin, Jameka or Amber.

Zach made a play to Dustin saying he can't beat any of his LNC5 mates, which MAY be true, or not.

I think pairings have hurt some peoole this season. Daniele's chances crushed by Dick, Dustin probably held back by association with Amber and I do think Jessica's pairing with Eric is not so helpful for her and so far keeps her from allying with any number of people.

My hope is that Dustin, Eric and Amber go soon but I don't think that will come from Jessica. She will go with Dick and Daniele. It isn't a bold move (since they are both on the jury anyway and she would beat either one of them) but it is easy and certainly wildly popular.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 1:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
thanks sea! check your email!!

i really wish she would go balls out and nominate dustin and amber.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
Zachsmom...she won't do it. She is in Eric's back pocket and unfortunately they want Dick and Dani gone first. Plus Dustin and Amber are part of the people who keep her here...you can't go against the group in the house...or you end up like Dani and Dick...

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 1:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
Right Beckie. So who is the bully again?

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 1:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Dick

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 1:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
Eric and Dustin...I'm not saying Dick hasn't done his fair share...it's a game. But these people...you have to vote our way, you have to, or you are out of this group and we don't want you in the house anymore. It's not a group show, it's an individual show. Eric and Dustin will tell those girls want they need to hear...it's unfortunate that those girls can't get some balls and decide how they want to vote on their own...

Kizz
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07-26-2001

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kizz a private message Print Post    
Mandana, you have a good theory about Dick, but I tend to agree with Kail, as she said so succinctly in her brief interview with Julie last night (and I am paraphrasing), a person can only play a role for so long, when you are with a person 24/7 and they are the way Dick is 24/7, you have to figure thats the way he really is.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 4:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I have to wonder if the Fearsome Five (Jess, Jameka, Amber, Dustin, and Eric) actually are thinking numbers. Right now its 5 to 4 more or less. (I'll call the other group the New Four.) The jury will have 7 voting between 2 people. I dunno if these peeps actualy did the math, but...

If the FF manage to win every HOH between now and the finale, and manage to get all of the NF out, that will be that those four will control the destiny of anyone in the final two. So assume this...

Dustin and Jessica make final two. Jameka, Eric/America, and Amber vote for Dustin to win. But the other four vote as a bloc and vote for Jessica to win.

Those four -- Dick, Danielle, Zach, Jen -- could be pretty powerful when it comes to the jury. The five? They've been thinking about the numbers INSIDE the house. But I think they've blown it. The NF will not vote for Dustin or Eric.

If the FF start to think clearly, they'll realize they need to get one of the FF and one of the NF in the finale.

But they aren't thinking ahead to the end game.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 4:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Dustin DID mention how delicious it would be to be on the block with Dick and to have Dick voted out 6-1 (he assumes Daniele would vote to keep Dick) and just how humiliating that would be.

He's sounding as silly as Dick when Dick wanted to go up against Jen. Since it appears Dustin won the AP vote, he'd better watch what he says around Eric, and for that matter, Zach.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 4:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Mandana, you have a good theory about Dick, but I tend to agree with Kail, as she said so succinctly in her brief interview with Julie last night (and I am paraphrasing), a person can only play a role for so long, when you are with a person 24/7 and they are the way Dick is 24/7, you have to figure thats the way he really is.

Kizz, you are correct. That has always been my instinct about Dick. Last night, they interviewed people who know him and they said he was the same personality outside the house...you either love him or hate him.