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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:14 pm
OH, I am a big one for getting even and imo, she needs to do something but ofcourse, she can't cross the line.
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Gambit_x77
Member
08-25-2005
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:16 pm
Teh bottom line is Jen doesn't deserve it. It doesn't make sense. It's like Chuck Norris lost his virginity before his dad.
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Rablake
Member
10-23-2005
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:16 pm
Dick and Jen are polarizing personalities. Gotta LOL at/with the O.J.-type defenses for ED and the folks who think ED seriously tried to drown Jen with the tea. ED is a classic bully who thinks he is effectively using his aggression. Jen shows so much restraint some decide she may be autistic. And then the ultimate argument, when all else fails: stop watching if you don't like my guy (gal). Kudos to C1 and Sanfran for staying calm in the tempest.
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:17 pm
Jameka had no problem telling Dick she thought he crossed the line.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:17 pm
"Sanfran, when would you like the line to be drawn??" Beckie, I draw the line when escalating verbal abuse progresses to the physical level. I would not wait until Jen has to go the E.R....I would intervene BEFORE that. "Yeah physical abuse, throwing a punch and landing it, is where I drawn the line. If the line was drawn any lower, it would not be TV." I get it. Wow.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:18 pm
My great aunt in NJ was SUED one time because her neighbor claimed that she purposely turned her garden hose on her (some drops of water went over the fence.) This was back in the 1970s. So if you can sue for that even back then, I would say that iced tea on the head in the context of an argument would be considered some type of assault.
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Oddsygirl
Member
07-11-2006
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:18 pm
I think that BB should allow the house guest to sleep in as late as they want. Then maybe everyone wouldn't be so cranky. I am sure that lack of good sleep is affecting everyone in the house. But then, having cranky house guests makes for better tv.
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Gambit_x77
Member
08-25-2005
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:18 pm
Am I making sense here? Its so frustrating. Jen would understand me. Idk if Dick should be kicked out, he just needs to ease up.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:18 pm
I threw water on my mom once when I was very angry at her and as soon as I did it, I felt like a piece of shit. I do think that is an assault and I wish I had never done that. Thank God my mom still loves me. Also, I was about 19. I think I have matured some. But just a little.
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:18 pm
it's not physical abuse, jeanne, it's assault -what he's been doing does actually meet the legal definition of assault having said that, smashing someone against a wall also is assault - except in a hockey game where it's expected so I guess the fact that these acts outside of the house would be a whole different ball game, inside the house it appears to be fair play
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:20 pm
No, sanfran, you don't get. That's the problem. You want the line drawn, where it gets physical. Therefore, maybe CBS should drawn the line of no touching, good or bad. In fact, there should be no talking bad to each other, immediate dismissal. There is too much gray area, it's not black and white. That's it. Alisons, PC240...it's not assault...maybe he could get a ticket, but it's not assault.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:21 pm
OK, I looked up "assault" on Wikipedia, and I think it covers the ED/Jen situation (provided for clarification): Assault is a crime of violence against another person. In some jurisdictions, including Australia and New Zealand assault refers to an act that causes another to apprehend immediate and personal violence, while in other jurisdictions, such as the United States, assault refers only to the threat of violence caused by an immediate show of force. Simple assaults that do not involve any aggravation such as use of a deadly weapon are distinguished from aggravated assaults in some juridictions. Assault is often defined to include not only violence, but any physical contact with another person without their consent. In Common Law jurisdictions, including England and Wales and the USA, battery is the crime that represents the unlawful physical contact, though this distinction does not exist in all jurisdictions. Exceptions exist to cover unsolicited physical contact which amount to normal social behavior (for example, patting someone on the back): see (in England and Wales) Collins v. Wilcox[1984] 3 All ER 374.
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Kaili
Member
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:21 pm
Was the drink poured or thrown? Just curious... Not that it matters...
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:22 pm
yeah, Alisons, that Australia and New Zealand, look up actual California Penal Code...what Dick did was not assault, not even assault and battery. If he threw the glass at her, that is assault...
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Oddsygirl
Member
07-11-2006
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:22 pm
poured
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Oddsygirl
Member
07-11-2006
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:24 pm
I don't think there was even any ice still left in the tea, but more of it ended up on the floor and not on Jen. Here clothes did not even get wet.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:25 pm
"You want the line drawn, where it gets physical." Yes, that is both a reasonable and a safe place to draw the line. "Therefore, maybe CBS should drawn the line of no touching, good or bad." No, that is an unreasonable projection of what you think BB would do. They wouldn't.
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:26 pm
I did check the California Penal Code - it qualifies for Civil Assault but my example of a hockey game does apply here, I guess - what's ok on the rink isn't ok off the rink
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Gemma120in2002
Member
07-05-2003
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:26 pm
LOL! The little smart-a** in me thinks that the next time they get into a disagreement that Jen should pour a drink over her own head and ask Dick if it was good for him! ROTFLMAO! Sorry, I'm easily amused and that just struck me as so funny! It's something I could see her doing too! Could you imagine her deadpan delivery?
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:26 pm
i think i saw ice in it, and they say her pants were wet on the side
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:27 pm
"Alisons, PC240...it's not assault...maybe he could get a ticket, but it's not assault." Look it up. It is a classic example of "assault".
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Gambit_x77
Member
08-25-2005
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:27 pm
Does anyone else think its just mean and weak strategy, if you dare call it that? I got assaulted by RC Cola once. Its kinda the same even tho the person's name who assaulted me wasn't Dick, and my name isn't Jen. But its like you get this popping in your eyes even tho Jen prolly didn't get that as much cuz it was tea. Although they both have caffeine. Dick didn't have to hurt Jen's feelers with words, either. Anyways, the guy got away.
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:28 pm
exactly, sanfran, it's too much gray...you can't say where is gets physical. what about the slop fight they had...that was physical. I don't care that it was fun and games...someone could have gotten hurt. Too much gray...you can't stand on it..
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:29 pm
You're not going to find the California definition of "assualt" on Wikipedia. Or on dictionary.com. And pouring a glass on someone's head? Heck, there are bars all over the nation where someone gets a glass of something tossed in their face, poured on their head, or dumped in their lap.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:29 pm
"I don't think there was even any ice still left in the tea, but more of it ended up on the floor and not on Jen. Here clothes did not even get wet." Yes, there was ice and yes, she got her hair and her clothes wet. Jessica mentioned the wet clothes when she was explaining what happened to a HG, but I forgot which HG.
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