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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
EM, you never answered my question about where the line is that Dick would have to cross for you to agree that Dick should be ejected.

Gambit_x77
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08-25-2005

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gambit_x77 a private message Print Post    
Can anyone answer my question?

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
It depends on the rules, and what the HGs willingly signed up for. (I've not seen the rulebook so who knows). As someone stated previously, certain kinds of roughhousing are allowed (if not encouraged) in games like hockey -- when those parameters are crossed (i.e. stick slashing across the neck) a player can be suspended.

Justin42
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08-05-2001

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Justin42 a private message Print Post    
If you had been stopped by a police officer, iced tea in your hand, and decided to pour it over his/her head, what do you think would happen next?

Just sayin'...

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
Good one Justin!

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
EM, you never answered my question about where the line is that Dick would have to cross for you to agree that Dick should be ejected.

yep I did..1:36

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
Gambit, I'd say no, Jen couldn't do that. But she could dump ice tea on his head.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
i seem to remember Eric from BB6 going off on Michael and having to be physically stopped by other HGs when he charged at Michael during his tirade. i felt that was the time for someone to be ejected.

the moment someone 'goes after' or 'charges at' the other physically is when they need to go IMO. dumping iced tea does not meet my definition.

Tera
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08-10-2000

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tera a private message Print Post    
I think being tazered in a sensitive area would happen next, Justin.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
Justin, that might be true, but none of us really know "what" the BB rules are with respect to this kind of behaviour.

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
In Justin's example, I'd think you would get a ride in the back of a police car. But if the reverse were to happen and you complained, I don'tr think the officer would get a ride in the back of a police car.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
which question, gambit?

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
I answered at the same time you posted Gambit

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 3:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I still think it was staged. I haven't watched the clip so can someone tell me how Jen handled it? Did she get mad at least? Dang, that girl has some control because no way no how would I have been able to control myself. Everything in the fridge would have been on Dick's head unless I was in on it, ya know for ratings.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 3:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Not that question, EM. Your 1:36 answer was evading my question, so I rephrased it.:-)

Your answer - "EM - "At this point SF I would have to say it isn't for us to draw the line, it's for BB to draw it."

So I rephrased it - "But I'm not asking if it is actually your responsibility to make decisions for BB. I'm asking you at what point would you agree that BB should eject him from the house? What would Dick have to do for you to agree that Dick should be ejected?

We both know that you would not wait until Jen was lying beaten to a bloody pulp on the kitchen floor and we know that you do not draw the line at Dick escalating his verbal abuse to the physical level like when he poured tea on her.....so where between those two things would YOU draw the line and agree that ejecting Dick from the house is the right thing to do?"


Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 3:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
We both know that you would not wait until Jen was lying beaten to a bloody pulp on the kitchen floor

WE DO??? lol.. Kinda depends on what she said to me..

SF, anything that could cause physical injury done not in fun, but with malice. Now if he had dropped the glass on her head, that would have been something I would have said
that's enough he should not be allowed to stay.

WoodpeckeŽ
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07-16-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 3:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send WoodpeckeŽ a private message Print Post    
"I seem to remember Eric from BB6 going off on Michael and having to be physically stopped by other HGs when he charged at Michael during his tirade. i felt that was the time for someone to be ejected.

the moment someone 'goes after' or 'charges at' the other physically is when they need to go IMO. dumping iced tea does not meet my definition."

It does in my book. <57> I can easily look past the tattoos, piercings and confrontational demeanor and conclude that he's socially unacceptable. The only way I would think differently is if he went in the Diary Room and told the audience that his game play was a complete hoax. Even then, he's still offensive.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 3:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Thank you, Earthmother! :-)

Sincebb1
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08-22-2005

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 3:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sincebb1 a private message Print Post    
Woody- as usual, stated perfectly.

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 3:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
I always thought Cappy should have been bounced from the show for throwing that chair. I thought the producers really messed that one up. I don't feel that way about the iced tea, though. For crying out loud, Big Brother himself doused the HGs in butter. Sure, I don't like Dick as a person, but I can't say he's doing anything but trying to rattle her cage. But as Jen rolls with it, I do sense that he's getting more desperate. He may yet mess up.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 3:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I agree the iced tea toss was over the line, and Dick should (and did) receive an official warning for his actions, but his actions did not physically harm Jen or "assault" her any more than a food fight would. I think ejection from the game would be too harsh a punishment for the crime.

It was tea... not acid.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
I'm not making up anything Jen...she could, not saying she does...everybody in there could have something...even Dick

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 3:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
I don't believe the tea incident all by itself was grounds for ejection.

The fact that Dick's verbal abuse has been ongoing for quite awhile and then his verbal attacks increased significantly in the last day or so, becoming more and more vicious and threatening, finally culminating in Dick crossing the line to an actual physical act....that is what concerns me.

One glass of ice tea is not the issue. The issue is an escalating pattern of abuse that kept going until he lost control and crossed that line. If it happened once, it can happen again.

Glasgurl
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09-18-2005

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 4:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glasgurl a private message Print Post    
Why didn't Jen leave the room after Dick poured the ice tea over her? If I were her, I wouldn't want to run out of the room right away since I wouldn't want to give him the satisfaction of chasing me off. But she hung out much longer than a show of unflappability would require. She hung around, doled out some more slop and ate it, hung around some more...

Why wouldn't you at least leave the room to go clean yourself up?

There's no question she is enjoying the attention. Not to be bashing Jen but she reminds me of someone with a personality disorder. She may be smart in some ways but she really is clueless with interpersonal skills in so many ways. Maybe very sheltered while growing up...don't quite know what but something is a bit "off" with that girl.

That being said, I would hate to see her get the boot anytime soon. She is fascinating to watch.

I do think that Dick actually kinda has a crush on her even tho he would never admit it, even to himself. They have some kinda spark going on between them and it isn't all fear and loathing.

chrissy