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What555456
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06-14-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
I wouldn't be so sure that Eric is going yet. When being confronted by Dick and Dani is to give in and walk away. If you don't, you'll never have a moment's peace.

Eric will not go down without a fight -- and he fights really well. And all of these HG's make snap decisions based on who they talked to last.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Nick was a fan favorite?

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Eric needs a swift kick in the ass from the DR today when he gets up. They need to tell him he's got some work to do. A LOT of work to do.

Swannanoa
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07-09-2007

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Swannanoa a private message Print Post    
EM, I have to agree about Dustin. And I really like him. I know others don't, but I do. I don't Dustin is stupid at all. And I also agree with C1 (I think that's who was wondering about this) that if Dustin is ensuring that the girls keep their votes the way they are (if he can do that) by promising to cast the deciding vote to evict Eric, then Eric will stay. It would be a smart move, IMO. I really hope it plays out that way.

Kidsatm
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kidsatm a private message Print Post    
I played for Eric with my vote last week, voted for Nick because I knew it was better for Eric. I would have preferred Kail went home. I still maintain that in order for AP to work it needs to be a two way street, however will concede that BB may have wanted it to fail and allowed the viewers vote popularity not game mentality to prevail.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
I can't say that I feel bad for Eric. He KNEW he wasn't going to get to vote for Nick so he had plenty of time to set himself up in such a way that he'd be covered after the votes. Especially since he was the one pushing to have his decoy voted out. He should have realized there was no one else to point the finger at and had a story in place when everyone started questioning who broke the alliance's voting block.

As for not thinking through who Eric should vote for, America found out that Eric wanted Nick out two seconds before he opened the envelope with Kail's name in it. People (speaking of the viewing audience at large - most of whom do not watch the live feeds) voted on who should go long before they knew Eric had decided Nick was the better person to get out.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
No Caprica but the Dick fans could see that losing Nick wrecked Dicks game so they wanted Nick to stay. Didn't you read the anger over Nick going. People saying now that other side will just pick off poor daddy and daughter. They wouldn't watch etc... So Eric dared to play against the popular one and because of it some fool pays for a banner and everyone decides to vote based on screwing the ap over LOL

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Personally I resent being called the Nerd Herd (just because we disagree with somebody else's opinion doesn't make us wrong). What I am is a consumer watching a product and there would be no PRODUCT if there weren't people watching.

Eric's job was to play for "US" -- it never was our job to support him, or at least that's the way I understood it from the beginning. Surely he had the option of taking the job or not...I don't think the producers could have FORCED him to do it. So if Eric wants to play his own game he simply had the option of not taking the things assigned to him and he would forfeit the money. It was his choice to be AP, I would suspect. I can see him choosing to do that because he has that kind of ego. He believes he is smarter and better at the game than any of the other players, and I've no doubt he thought he could pull it off.

It seems like every year the houseguests have a different take on the actions of other players than the LF watchers perception. The Nerd Herd really thought that America liked them better than Janelle/Howie/Kaysar/James. Erika thought that America would think she and Boogie were America's Sweethearts. Danielle didn't think that people would see her diary room entries. They were sadly mistaken. (I think that was Will and Boogie's strengths...they didn't lie about themselves in the diary rooms and they never took it seriously.) I think Eric has fallen into the trap of thinking that America wanted the same things he did and he was wrong, although of course there are some that did. But the majority vote so far has not fallen in line with Eric's thinking, at least in the vote.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
So really we were suppose to "use" Eric to help someone else win the game?

Swannanoa
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07-09-2007

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Swannanoa a private message Print Post    
Had the majority of America listened, Eric had said from his second day out that he wanted Nick out and that's what he kept saying. I swear I think "some" of the voters are playing "vote for the worst case scenario" to mess with the AP. And I think it would have happened to any of the players who were chosen to be AP, not just Eric. As one of those voters, I knew Eric wanted Nick out that's why I voted the way I did (plus it helped that Nick got that ugly Mohawk as well...LOL).

I just think that there are some people in this house who are utterly useless in this game as far as strategy goes. Kail, Jen, Amber, Jessica, Jameka. I will give kudos to Dick (although I don't like him), Dani and Dustin for at least making an attempt to strategize.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
And if Eric didn't help someone else win the game then to hell with him?

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I'm not that crazy about Dick and Dani either. But what I really hate in BB is to see one group get a decided advantage over the other and coast their way to the finals intact. It was boring in season six and it is boring now. The only thing that kept people watching in season six was how good Janelle was in the challenges. She skinned through the last few weeks winning either HOH or POV...otherwise she would have been gone.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I think that if Dustin votes to keep Eric in he will lose Amber as an ally forever

and he'd kick out his other allience..Dustin would be the new Zach..all alone and easy pickins'

Krissn
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07-09-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Krissn a private message Print Post    
Jess is officially beating up the tether ball. I would love to hear what is going through her head about this game right now.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
C1, he made a choice. It didn't work for him. Making a mistake in this game is part of the challenge.

Swannanoa
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07-09-2007

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Swannanoa a private message Print Post    
Roxip, I have to agree about seeing one group with an advantage over the others. It's why S6 and 7 bored me...yet here I am watching S8.

I don't know who called anyone a Nerd Herd. I certainly didn't. I thought the intention of the AP was for us to have input and work as an alliance of million. To me that didn't mean Eric was working FOR me but WITH me and that's how I voted. Probably my misunderstanding, but it only seemed fair to me.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
C1, I have asked that several times and no one ever responds...lol.

Minerva
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02-20-2007

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Minerva a private message Print Post    
Jessica needs to have her "Jess in the Morning Show". Like you Krissn I would love to know where her mind is at.
BTW - Doesn't she want to be a newscaster?

Cruzlvr
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11-13-2003

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cruzlvr a private message Print Post    
Eric's flaw was not in thinking things through. Sure he wanted Nick out (I don't blame him for that). But since week 2 the majority of America's vote had been to evict Jen or Kail. Why would he think that would turn? He pushed too hard for Nick to be gone before he got his orders and there was no way he could back paddle to the other HG on that (although I think Eric is smart and could have found a way to do it). All he had to say was he thought things through and knew it was a mistake without evidence to blame Nick for the votes and betrayal. All would be happy with his group and the majority of America who wanted Kail gone.

Once Kail left, I feel fairly certain that America would have voted to get rid of Nick (I could be wrong). I never wanted Nick to stay because of the supposedly Nick/Dani showmance. To me that was so fake. I felt Nick was on their side, wouldn't work to get HOH and just go along with whatever the LNC wanted. I think if Eric had really worked to get rid of Kail, that those that are complaining the most that Eric didn't work for them would most likely not have turned on Eric and voted for Nick to go this week. I know I would have. Of course, this is my opinion only. LOL

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Earthmother be honest. You thought that Eric was suppose to help someone else win and if he didn't pick that person to help then to hell with him. Thats really what it all comes down to. However, if you were really in that house as Eric represents you'd create a pathway for yourself to win and if it means getting rid of soemeone like Nick so that Dick and his daughter don't have all these connections in the game you'd make that move. You wouldn't be stupid enough to play the game for them.

BTW.. Kail is nothing for Dustin if he's sitting on that block next to Jen. Do you think Kail will keep Dustin over Jen? He's not that dumb. The man knows he's the next target. Kail will hand her vote over to Dustin only in the event if Dick is on that chopping block. Kail can't win any HOH's for the next 5 weeks. She sits back and can't do a damn thing for him. Other wise she will vote right along with Jen.

Minerva
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02-20-2007

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Minerva a private message Print Post    
This is the first year that I have not had a favorite in the show. I have just been sitting back and watching. It is really fun that way. I have seen the extent that some people will go to win this show. I have also learned a lot about how people in this show think.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Oh I think it's pretty obvious that if Eric would have ever made a move that put the family at risk america would have shot eric down real fast. america prefers watching trainwrecks and cheering them on. Eric was never going to please america unless he willingly played for Dick.

Rudychloemom
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08-12-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rudychloemom a private message Print Post    
Would somebody seriously explain to me how voting out Eric is a good strategic move for Jessica, Amber, Jameka and Dustin. I am being serious, I must have missed something, cause I don't understand why they would get rid of someone that they know wouldn't "put them up" and is at least a more "likely" vote for them to stay (if they were put up) than Kail. I know they think he is "playing both sides" and that Amber doesn't like Jews, but what is the strategic reasoning behind this vote? I don't understand how these people are playing this game with their hearts.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
I think Eric was mislead by CBS.It is obvious to me when Eric is in the DR talking to us he thinks we are supposed to be helping HIM.The whole "Eric is working for you,America"is what screwed Eric in this game.

Krissn
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07-09-2005

Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Krissn a private message Print Post    
I think it was my post that offended Roxip (obviously unintentionally). :-)

I think my perception on AP is different in that I was under the impression that since I am not in the house someone is there for me to guide in the ways I think would advance his game. I have to take the information I am given by watching who he is forming relationships with and who he is not and try to steer the game in a way that furthers him. Otherwise, I lose my ability to play because my player is gone. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I was just stating mine. I know from his podcast (which is great) Ryn thinks the banner was a funny component but I really think it hurt this season. Eric overplayed. No question. I just hope the other hg's will appreciate what he was accomplishing with the extra layer of unpredictability once they leave the house. Anyone would have 'crazy eyes' trying to get through that maze smoothly. I am glad he at least is taking some of the AP money with him (guaranteed third monetarily).