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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 5: Is that the only way Dick can save Daniele?: Archive through August 11, 2007 users admin

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Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 1:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
Dick doesn't expect to win this game. He want's his daughter to make it to the end.
Dick doesn't think that Dani is the target, but he wants her to gain confidence. He would throw himself on the sword to keep her in the game (which is what he is doing). He will try hard for veto to make sure she is saved. And it won't matter who goes up against him..because at most would be 2 votes for him to stay (only Jen, Dani & Zach would vote for him, and one of them will be on the block with him).
He's playing this week to go to the Jury.


Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 1:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"He want's his daughter to make it to the end."

He has already guaranteed that will never happen.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
<93>

I'm sure that Dick thinks making himself a huge target will ensure that he gets evicted, and not Daniele. I'm also sure that he's NOT thinking that this will make up for any parental neglect or deficiencies.

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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 2:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
I'm sure he thinks that, too. Of course, he is wrong about that. Several HG have gone to Daniele and TOLD HER that her association with Dick has affected her standing in the house....and that was before today's rampage.

If nothing else, the HG will make sure that Dani is not in the final 2, so Dick will not be able to vote for her...and he will be forced to vote for someone he was abusive to.

Dick is "saving" no one with his current behavior. He's just throwing another tantrum.

Funkyone
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08-17-2006

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Funkyone a private message Print Post    
He also sprung his rampage this morning as a strategy on the POV. I see it as a two pronged approach: 1) psyche everyone out so they will be off their game a bit and not win POV and 2) if that doesn't work and D & D stay on the block, then he would be most hated and more likely to be sent home.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 2:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
I don't know how they could possibly think she is going to severe herself from her father to please them -- even if she is not particularly close to him.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 2:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
They don't expect her to, Jeanne. I think they just hoped she would get him to cut back on the abuse because it's hurting her standing in the game, too.

It doesn't matter anymore now, though. Dick has already made sure they are both toast and there is no way he can undo that.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 2:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
They all have mouths too. It's just easier, IMO, for them to blame a 20 year old for her father's behaviour.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
They are right, though....Daniele supports Dick's abusive behavior so Daniele is now tainted by Dick's abusive behavior. She's made herself an accomplice by egging him on.

Her age is irrelevant.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 3:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Jeanne, have you forgotten that Dick and Dani planned all this. She even game him pointers on what to say to certain people to punch their buttons? She would make a half hearted attempt to get him to tone it down and then she would turn around and give him some more things to say.

And the houseguests saw her laughing about it. She and Dick have been in the bedgroom several times giggling about it.

You watch, though if he goes and she stays, there will tears and a self pity party about how hard it has been for her to be in the house with her father and how none of them understand. That is after she melts down again in the bedroom saying she hates it and wants to go home. Wonder who is going to be around to comfort her? Jen, or Zach maybe? He would just love that.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Well, now we know he'll be the hero of BB8.

He'll save Danielle in the most fatherly way and I sincerely believe he will be 'sincerely' happy about it. A very honourable sacrifice for the love of his daughter. Isn't that sweet.

I think that will also be a gesture that will help Dick save face with his messy game play.
He has a nice way out and he should bow out with class saving his daughter.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    

quote:

Daniele supports Dick's abusive behavior


This is absolutely untrue! Daniele doesn't support her father's behavior. In fact, she's not happy about it. Please go read Daniele's own words, in her HOH diary.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 6:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
If Dick becomes the hero of BB8 by saving his daughter then all the more power to him. I think using the POV to save his daughter is a smart decision. It's also possible that he will NOT be evicted. We don't know yet who will be nominated in his place.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 6:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I agree Costacat. WTH, Dani knows her dad and she can't stop him. Dani knows that Eric and Dustin are saying vile stuff about her too. I think Dick will use the veto on Dani but only if she wants him to.

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 6:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
I don't care what Daniele says. Her actions prove she will stand by and say nothing when Dick gets massively abusive with others.

My mother is convinced that Daniele stays silent because there is some abuse in her past with her father. Daniele just can't stand up to him, emotionally. I'm inclined to agree with her.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 6:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"This is absolutely untrue!"

Yes, it IS true....the HGs watched Daniele on the HOH monitor egging Dick on and laughing during his tirades today.

"Please go read Daniele's own words, in her HOH diary."

She was SEEN supporting Dick's ranting and raving, no matter what she wrote in her HOH diary.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
well, nobody is going to convince me that this young girl is as bad as they think. The house is stressed to the max and Dick is probably the only one who comes close to who he really is. When he doesn't like somebody, he has no cooth and doesn't care what people think of him. He can be very intimidating.
As long as Dustin & Eric say the vile things they say about Dani in front of Amber, Jess, Jameka, then I don't think Dani should care to even try to get her dad to stop.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
If Daniele accepts the Veto from her father it will prove that she is selfish and immature. She has all but given up as it is and Dick still has some fight left in him. This will be the ultimate example of how Dani hurt Dicks game.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 7:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
There is a long-shot scenario where they could pull it off.

Dick takes himself off. Dick and Dani fake a huge fight about it and she pretends to almost walk out the door. They do not talk to each other till the vote.

They would know that Dick is sticking around and he would be VERY pissed if they took it out on his kid, so he might be able to cut some deals to get the replacement voted out.

A long shot, but one that I would make a play at.

Costacat
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Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 7:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
If Daniele accepts the veto from her father, it proves nothing other than she is doing what she's said all along... whatever it takes to win this game. Period.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 7:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Dick has nothing to offer anyone in a deal that would keep both him and Daniele in the house. Zach might go for it but no one else would.....not after Dick's behavior today.

If Dick saves himself, Daniele is out. If Dick saves Daniele, Dick is out. The HGs watched them both on the HOH monitor today, so they now realize that Daniele is definitely supporting Dick, even giggling and egging him on.

Dick burned his bridge at both ends and now he's standing in the middle of it.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Assuming Dick moves to save Dani, do you think she is ready to have him remind her for the rest of her life that he "sacrificed" himself for her on BB?

She is going to get really sick of him throwing that in her face everytime she brings up the pain he has created in her life.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 8:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Dick has said on a occasion that Dani is playing better than he is so he just might save her and go on out. He has to be running out of steam.
I agree with Costacat, that it absolutely does not prove anything other than Dani is staying in the game if she accepts the veto from her dad. Jeez, I'm starting to be appalled and some of the things I read in these threads. Dani can't win no matter what with some of you, but you are entitled to your opinion and I just don't agree with it. Find by me, this game is just a game and everybody will forget it soon enough. In the mean time, I will just send Dani some positive vibes to help filter out the bad vibes going her way.

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 9:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
Why is Dani responsible for her father's actions? That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard! Why don't any of the rest of them stand up to him and "stop" him if they think it is so easy. And as far as her laughing with him about some of his outbursts...what about your fab 5 laughing about Eric's remarks regarding incest between Dick and Danielle. Do you people find that humorous? Yes, Dick has a foul mouth, yes he gets in people's faces, and yes some of his remarks are pretty sharp....but...it is ok for Eric to make such sickening statements...and ok for Jameka to call Dick's mother names? I understand we all have our favorites and our not so favorites...but how can any of us say one doing something is acceptable and the other not. If Dick uses his veto on Dani it is because HE WANTS TO. And for anybody who blames Dani for his actions, well, they NEED to grow up. If my child went out and committed a crime...does that make me responsible...or vise versa. If there is ONE person in that house who has been completely honest, hasn't laughed at snide and cruel remarks, has not back stabbed...it must be a little mouse in the store room...because I haven't seen it from any of the humans in there.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 9:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Why do people assume that because some of us find Dick to be a vicious and vile abuser that we support or ignore what others have said?

I do think, though, Dani is going to hear about Dick's big "sacrifice" for the rest of her life -- as if this makes up for a life time of pain Dick has caused her. I doubt she is going to like it.