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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 5: Fox News Article Blasts Amber/BB: Archive through August 09, 2007 users admin

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What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Why would BB tell Amber that her anti-semitcism is the grist of news stories. She probably doesn't even remember she said it and even if she does, I doubt she thinks it is all that big of a deal.

Bbdi
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09-01-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbdi a private message Print Post    
I feel bad that Amber has to learn and understand the biases and stereotypes she believes in this manner, while broadcast 24/7 on the internet and being attacked in the media. She did say in the conversation that this is what her mother told her, and who do we learn our biases from? I remember learning myself about stereotypes that I had just because that's what I learned growing up. Everyone learns these lessons at some point or another, and Amber has to do it on live internet. I feel horrible for her.

Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
I don't know. Amber is something like 27 years old. I would think by that age she would already have figured out that biases of other people (mother,sister) aren't necessarily your own. Unless of course you adopt them to be yours. Which by the age of 27 IMO is a conscious decision.

Not to mention Amber hasn't been exactly sheltered. She lives in Las Vegas and has been both a cigarette girl and a cocktail waitress in the casino industry. Las Vegas has a huge diversity of cultures. She should already know better and since she had no problem voicing those opinions I think that is exactly who she is.

Bottom line to me is those are her prejudges and hers alone.

Jcsmom
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08-25-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jcsmom a private message Print Post    
Can someone give me a link or tell me what Amber said that is causing such an uproar? I heard the Dustin's dog story, and I thought that was bad, but based on the reaction here, I guess this is worse? Also, what is her "secret" that she's afraid eric will use against her? I know it is about a lie to her boyfriend, but I cant find the actual secret...if someone can direct me where to find, I would be very grateful.

Scoutmom
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01-19-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scoutmom a private message Print Post    
I say another network late last night that had the story and footage of Amber talking to Jameka. Don't remember which one it was but I know it wasn't FOX cause I had just passed the Foxnews channel when I came onto them talking about Amber and Antisemitism.

Queenfish
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07-19-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Queenfish a private message Print Post    
I think maybe amber isn't smart enough to know that she made a racists remark. She dosen't know that it would be the same as attacking Jameka, because of her race. What a big dummy. Some are saying that CBS will address it on the live show tonight and that she may or may not be leaving tonight. Anyone know anything about that?

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
Jcsmom, go to the top of the thread to see the links and information about this thread and you will find what you are looking for.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
I'm confused. Did they tell Amber in the DR that she'd made the NEWS with her comments? A few years ago, they didn't enlighten them about 911, nor tell the gal whose name I forget momentarily, that her neice was missing in the rubble. (And subsequently died, I believe.) THAT offended me deeply, and concerned me, that something so monumental as a true terrorist act was going on at the time, and the hamsters were kept in the dark. But now they may have revealed to this gal who KNOWS she's on BB and is aware of the fishbowl of cameras/mikes/internet & tv coverage, that SHE made the knews by spouting hateful ignorance? If they saw fit to bring it to her attention, it should have been as a reprimand only and not to glorify it and reveal it is making a splash in the media. If they could keep the hamsters in the dark over 911 which was unforgiveable IMHO, they should at least be consistant and keep her in the dark about the quicksand she's sinking in. Show it on the live show and have Julie comment on it. Let's see her fellow hamsters reactions, etc. But don't single her out and give her this special outside info, she doesn't deserve it! Besides, I believe that if that is who she is, and they accepted her on the show, then let her hang herself with her opinons and her words, don't let her become PC, and merely hide it. She won't learn her 'facts' are screwy, ignorant, and hurtful, she'll only learn to be more discrete about it - maybe.

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
It was Monica in BB2 and yes they did tell her and Nicole and Will what was going on, and also kept Monica informed about her cousin who died in the world trade center. All they knew was missing at the time.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
I doubt they told amber she made the news.

Don't know if they would have talked to her about it at all at this point.

As Amber not thinking it is a big deal, that is kind of the point. She flippantly threw them out there like it was no big deal. Which is what makes it such a big deal.

I would be more than happy for them to kick her off. BB does not need to be used as a platform for ignorant bigotry, racism and antisemitism.

Lyn
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08-07-2002

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lyn a private message Print Post    
Amber made British entertainment news

Anti-Semitic outburst on US 'Big Brother'

Oops!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
We have no way to know what the DR specifically said to Amber. They wouldn't have to tell her it was on the news. They could have just asked why she was making racist remarks to get her thinking about it and left it at that.

As far as BB kicking people off for making racist remarks or BB serving as a platform for making racist remarks, in a way by allowing it, BB is showing society that some people still have a long way to go with respect to racism.

I'm sure (quite ironically) that Amber would categorically deny being racist and that demonstrates how subliminal racism is in America.

Bbdi
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09-01-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbdi a private message Print Post    
I don't think Amber should leave the house. They are in there and exposing themselves warts and all, as someone said above. I'd rather see her stay, and the topic of her racist comments remain in the open forum. Taking her out would be like CBS trying to sweep it under the rug, and that's not helpful at. Racism exists, it's there, let's talk about it.

Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
{{mamie}} it is good to see you down here. I need to get upstairs so we can chat.

Milosmom is right. They did tell them a watered down version of what was going on.

I remember Monica sitting in the backyard with Will and Nicole, bravely fighting back tears while convincing herself she was sure her cousin was safe. BB gave her the option to leave, but told her there was no way to get her back to NY any time soon. She choose to stay and BB stayed in contact with her family keeping her updated.

Sbondi
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09-16-2005

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sbondi a private message Print Post    
Jcsmom- Here's the info -

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C292499%2C00.html

http://www.tmz.com/2007/08/08/big-brother-shiksa-learns-jews-have-jewish-names/

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
IMO if they remove Amber for this reason then they should remove Dustin and Dick as well.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Scout...it was CNN Headline News network, on the Showbiz Tonight program.

It's also on TMZ.

Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carrie92 a private message Print Post    
Interesting article from UK.

While I appreciate the Anti-Defamation League's argument, I think it needs to be made clear that this was not on national television, and CBS/BB has no control over what comes out of someone's mouth on the live feeds.

I think they are placing blame in the wrong person's lap. It lies solely with Amber, and according to her, her mom and sis. That's the sick thing about racism - most of it comes from the environment people are brought up in. It's inbred.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
How many pounds ago was that photo of Amber or does balling 24/7 "puff " a person up ?

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 12:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
face.env.duke.eduvegirls....ish-names/
UPDATE: CBS has issued the following statement: "BIG BROTHER is a reality show about watching a group of people who have no privacy 24/7 - and seeing every moment of their lives. At times, the Houseguests reveal prejudices and other beliefs that we do not condone. We certainly find the statements made by Amber Siyavus on the live Internet feed to be offensive and they will not be part of any future broadcast on the CBS Television Network.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 12:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
I'm actually surprised that they won't air any of what Amber said. They sure didn't have a problem with airing what Erika said about Jee.....

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Sadly I am not surprised at all. Money and influence make a big difference.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 12:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, I guess what bothers me about it is, those that just watch the show will not know. Unless, they follow the news about it. To me, it looks as though CBS is protecting Amber.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
well, it pisses me off that they made a big deal about this but not dustin and ambers remarks on black people. i find both comments horrendous but why take a stand with one and not the other?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I agree with you both.

Amber is completely responsible for what comes out of her mouth.

I'm also disgusted and repulsed that this remark is getting more response than Dustin and Amber's remarks about black people.

I don't want to read too much into this but it may say something about American society.