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Shellylyn
Member
07-29-2007
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 9:23 am
Well, he has treated dani horrible before, dani said it, and so did dani's brother, so I think a lot of his "motherbear" instincts are because he knew he screwed up and done things wrong, so he is going over the top to make it all better. You can tell that she doesn't like him to hug her, she is very reserved, so she still has a lot of built up feelings, and I have a feeling, it will take them a LONG time to repair the relationship if they ever completely do.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 9:27 am
Dick's motherbear is to salve his guilty conscience, not to help Dani. If he "sacrificed" himself for her in the game, it would come only if he decided he was not going to win anyway and to make himself look good -- in his own eyes and in the eyes of others. It would not be done out of any sleflessness at all -- it would all be because of what he thought he could gain from it.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 9:54 am
doublethink, love your screen name are we for Eurasia or Eastasia? while i think dick goes way over the top, and says things that shouldn't be said, some of the stuff he says cracks me up.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 9:59 am
I think in real life as well as in BB very few people do things for truly selfless reasons. Whether they want to admit it or not, most people do things because it makes them feel better for doing it. That includes making "sacrifices" for their children. If Dick were to decide to sacrifice himself for his daughter, it would be for the same reasons that most people have for doing this. Dick is no different than most people in that respect.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:16 am
i agree jimmer. he loves dani very much and would do anything for her.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:32 am
If Dick were decide to sacrifice himself for his daughter, he would be hated. If Dick didn't sacrifice himself for his daughter, he would be hated. Whether Dick feels guilty or not for past actions (or inactions) is irrelevant. You can't know what he's feeling since he hasn't said. But he IS a father and parental instincts can run strong. People make sacrifices for their children on a daily basis. It's fairly "normal".
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:35 am
yep costa. i would do the same for my son. dick is damned if he does damned if he doesn't.
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Doublethink
Member
08-23-2006
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:39 am
Zachsmon - lol - and you can bet Dick is the only one of these HGs who would understand your question. Last night when Kail was talking to Dick about who she wanted evicted week 1 - Carol or Amber, all I could think was that Kail had really embraced the concept of doublethink.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:44 am
One quick thing, I know a lot of people don't understand anyone liking Dick. Did you ever stop to think that maybe some were hurt very very much in the past by "friends or lovers" that spoke one way and stabbed you in the back many times? I know I was. That's one of the reasons I like to see honest stabbing, not a fan of the nastiness, but would pick Dick over Dustin or Eric or Amber any day of the week.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:47 am
lol doublethink, you are probably right. i haven't read that book in a few years. i might have to pick it up. i think dick is cute and i would go out on a date with him. he'd have to lose the brow piercing though.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:48 am
me too milo, me too.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:52 am
"If Dick were decide to sacrifice himself for his daughter, he would be hated. If Dick didn't sacrifice himself for his daughter, he would be hated." That's because he has an abusive attitude towards women, not because of anything to do with Daniele. Sacrificing himself for his daughter in this game would be his way to try and "fix" the fact that he gave her away when she was little so he could galavant around the world boozing it up. "People make sacrifices for their children on a daily basis. It's fairly "normal"." Unlike Dick.....his sacrifices didn't happen on a daily basis at all....he gave her away! It's too little, too late for him to raise Daniele....she's an adult now. His abusive tendencies should be more than enough reason for her to keep him at arms length. He might want to see himself as a father figure to Daniele, but it appears she just sees him as a "mean friend"....and an ally in a game where she has no other friends, "mean" or otherwise.
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Doublethink
Member
08-23-2006
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:52 am
Sorry Zachsmom - not my choice of date, I will not pull a Jen and be jealous of your Dick love. He's all yours!! I have never and will never date a smoker, and then there's all the other reasons so passionately debated in this thread. But please let me know how that date turns out - lol. (Nothing against all you smokers on a personal level, I just can't tolerate the smell.)
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:55 am
Thanks, SanFran. You just made my point! ZM, I like the brow piercing! He'd need to shave, though... his unshaven cheeks (lately) look downright harmful! Milosmom, I've not had the experience you've described. But I'll take brutal honesty over behind the back subterfuge any day! Finally, until I find out what Dick is like OUTSIDE the house, I'll believe what I want to believe. And, as a WOMAN, I don't believe he's abusive TO WOMEN. An opinion to which I am entitled, as a woman.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:58 am
"That's one of the reasons I like to see honest stabbing" Stabbing is stabbing, whether you see it coming or not. Abuse is abuse whether it's in your face or more subtle. The only good thing about "honest stabbing" is that you see it immediately so you can walk away from the stabber.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:00 am
<77> the way i see it, he was 24 with 2 children under 2 to raise and was not able to. he put them into a better stable environment then what he could provide. that is love. many women do it everyday, give their children up for adoption because they cannot raise them on their own.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:01 am
"Thanks, SanFran. You just made my point! " Then I guess we agree that Dick is an abusive man whether he was a lousy father or not.
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Doublethink
Member
08-23-2006
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:04 am
Costa - well I'm a woman too, and I don't think Dick has any respect for women. I find his actions within BB abusive, and would be extremely surprised if he were completely different in real life.
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Joyfuld
Member
08-16-2005
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:04 am
Brutal honesty is good. Attacking from the front is good. Calling women c***, W****, B**** and threatening their livlihood is not good. This seems pretty black and white to me.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:09 am
As I said, I don't like the nastiness and don't love him for that part of him. Maybe he has been really hurt by women in the past. Though that is in no way a pass for him to do that. Remember Robert in BB4? Said the same things, just behind their backs. Dustin called Dani a ho, a skank...etc. The list goes on. I guess very few men OR women on BB have respect for man or woman based on their actions in the house. Dick seems to have been vilified for his looks, his life choices, his smoking, etc., before he even opened his mouth. I try not to judge people unless I walk in their shoes. I can have opinions but I try not to push my viewpoint on others, its just MY viewpoint.
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Doublethink
Member
08-23-2006
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:13 am
Posters keep saying that Dick was vilified for his looks, and his smoking, I haven't read that at all. I don't dislike him for those reasons, (I'd never date a smoker, but I don't dislike people because they smoke) I dislike him for his actions in the BB house.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:14 am
"Dick seems to have been vilified for his looks, his life choices, his smoking, etc., before he even opened his mouth." I don't see it that way. I had no opinion about him until he started being so cruel and aggressively abusive to Jen and Kail. That's why I don't like him. His ACTIONS inside that house is what turned me against him.
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Mssas
Member
08-04-2006
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:14 am
exactly San...I couldn't of put it better myself.
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Joyfuld
Member
08-16-2005
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:15 am
Dick is not ugly. He does remind me of a cross between Cosmo Kramer and Keith Richards. His smoking is a non issue to me because I used to smoke also and my husband still does. The only thing I dislike is his vicious tongue.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:16 am
behind the back subterfuge any day! Costa, you've just described what Dick is doing to Eric right now. As I said last night, he does both. In your face is nothing more than an excuse for bad manners.
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