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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 5:10 pm
I don't think Jen can be expected to vote with D/D and Zach on the jury. Jen is, and always has been, her own person in this game. I believe that she has made a friend in Daniele (or at least Jen thinks she has) but that friendship doesn't mean that she would vote for whomever D/D and/or Zach want her to in the final 2. Jen has never held grudges or done anything that would cause her to see another HG as an enemy (except maybe Dick, but right now it looks like he won't make it to the final 2). She has only done what she needed to do to stay in he game on a week by week basis. I think she'll just vote for whomever she feels played the best game and she won't make it personal. I think D/D will hold grudges and they will vote the same way and their final 2 vote will be a personal one. Also, you never know in this game. Even if most of the jury members are from the LNC-5 , that doesn't mean they will still be loyal to any LNC-5 member that is in the final 2. Remember, the only way to get to the sequester house is for the other HG to evict them! If, for example, Dustin was in an alliance with Jameka, Eric, and Amber early in the game, but then Dustin wound up betraying Jessica and Eric and got them voted out.....they could very well vote against Dustin to win in the final 2...even if he was up against Jen or Zach. You just never know because the BB house dynamics are very fluid. I guess I just mean that the loyalties in the house can easily change because they are always eventually forced to turn on one another after their main "enemies" have been evicted. That can create resentment and negative votes for the one that does the betraying.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 5:17 pm
"Last night, they interviewed people who know him and they said he was the same personality outside the house...you either love him or hate him." I did notice they none of the people interviewed were women. (There were two girls wearing pro-Dick t-shirts but they didn't say if they were just fans in that bar or close friends of Dick's.) I was hoping some ex girlfriends would be interviewed....
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Bbfan
Member
07-23-2007
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 5:18 pm
I don't see how Dick and Danielle are going to make it out of this one and I don't want to see them go home - simply because I hate the way Dustin, Jameka, Erik, and Amber are acting now. I miss last year when I had a clear favorite (Janelle).
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 5:32 pm
Apparently Dick, while consoling her daughter, told her that although he's not liked in the house there are a lot of people outisde that they like him just the way he is, and Daniele, "oh, like the other jerks" and Dick laughed, "yeah, that's it". Dick is aware of his shortcomings but he's not trying to hide them, take him or leave him. I think there are other ways to deal with Dick than either take him or leave him, I would put him on the spot, let him rant and fall asleep.
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Carochar
Member
07-25-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 5:40 pm
It was really nice to have a clear-cut favorite the past couple years but this year is interesting in that I have to cull admirable traits from each HG. A challenge, yes. But it keeps me thinking.
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Erinbear
Member
08-05-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 6:08 pm
have nominations been done yet?? if so can anyone tell me who was nom'd??
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 6:24 pm
"Dick is aware of his shortcomings but he's not trying to hide them, take him or leave him. " He's also not trying to grow and/or overcome his shortcomings either. In fact, he embraces his worst flaws as if they were positive attributes.
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 6:26 pm
YES, SHE PUT UP THE DONATOS!
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 6:29 pm
Is that official?
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 6:41 pm
Sanfran, we've had almost two days of this thread and we knew already it was going to be D/D. I'm a bit disappointed with Jessica, I thought she had in her to be more creative with the nominations but I guess the others want one of the Donatos gone. Now, to kick out Dick seems to me not that smart. I would keep him around as a constant target. Dani seems more of a threat than Dick. Sanfran... about Dick... I'm already bored with him (dog that barks don't bite). But Eric's remarks about father and daughter kissing seems to me a bit nasty...
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Erinbear
Member
08-05-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 6:44 pm
thanks for the info Rslover. I know she talked about doing it I just wanted to know if it was done officially yet. 
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 7:04 pm
Spunky, I was assuming it would be D/D but I didn't want to actually get up and do my happy dance until it was official. happy dance -> <- happy dance "Now, to kick out Dick seems to me not that smart. I would keep him around as a constant target." That sounds good in theory, but as long as Dick is in the house he has a chance to win HOH and he could change everything. It IS smart for the LNC-5 to take him out now. I wouldn't be surprised if they take out Daniele next week. Of course, the same holds true with Daniele being in the house as it does with keeping Dick in the house. There is always a chance that Daniele can win HOH, too. "Sanfran... about Dick... I'm already bored with him (dog that barks don't bite). But Eric's remarks about father and daughter kissing seems to me a bit nasty..." I'm more fed up than bored with Dick.....and continually barking dogs work my last nerve. In any case I'll be happy when he's booted out of the house and off my TV. I haven't heard that remark that you said Eric made. Yes, it does sound nasty. Actually, I haven't been rooting for Eric as much I have been rooting for "America's Player". I don't care if Eric goes home after D/D or if he makes it to the final 3. I'm just glad that America's Player was not evicted before the sequester house opened up for business. I would've been irked had Eric been evicted yesterday...and I won't be thrilled if he makes it to the final 2 either! Both of those scenarios preclude "America" from getting to vote in the final 2!
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 7:20 pm
I think putting up Dick is perfectly reasonable. He can make a person's life a living hell with his constant badgering. It'a a perfectly legitimate strategy on his part - but I think it's just tooooo annoying. It's a long time between now and Thursday and it's a HUGE stretch to say he will still be a nominee by then. But, if he is and if I was in the house, voting him out would be one of those "free weeks" where everyone just votes someone out to make the house a more livable place.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 7:29 pm
I wanted Eric to stay to see some fireworks but nothing really happened other than the usual Dick's show, but also to see the continuation of the AP although not for such honourable purposes as yours, only to see Eric's game a bit screwed up as was the mystery vote. Now it all depends on America's choice for eviction since it may create a tie, which still won't impede one of the Donatos going (if they're still both on the block) because Jessica will break the tie, but it will finally show the others that one of their own is casting the wrong vote. Also if one of them is saved by POV and Jen and Dick are on the block (AP could have Jen for eviction) and it could be a tie again. However, Jessica believes, as the others, that the tie is impossible (they don't know of AP) and won't even speculate on that.
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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 5:47 am
Sanfranjoshfan, Here's the clip about ED & the LA Rock Scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s4HOgyaUzg They did talk to a woman about ED. Dilana from Rockstar:Supernova. She said, "He doesn't mean to be mean, he just...says it like it is." The lead singer from Silent Rage said, "Dick is Dick and he's just like he is on the show. I mean you either like him or you hate him." People who don't like ED have taken that to mean that he's an a-hole who gets in people's faces and belittles them in real life too. People who like ED have taken that to mean that what the guy was saying is that ED doesn't hold back and says what he thinks. Like what Dilana said, that he tells it like (ED) thinks it is. I guess it's hard to tell just from the clip and quote exactly which aspect of ED's behavior he was referring to. His over the top actions where he belittles people and dumps iced tea on their heads, or the part where instead of talking crap about you behind your back, he's upfront about what he thinks of you. But, I wouldn't take what that guy said as "proof" of one point of view or the other as it was one clip taken from whatever else the guy said. He could have said that in response to a question from the interviewer about ED's bluntness, or it could have bee about him pouring iced tea on Jen's head. Since we don't know the context of the question that was asked, we can't use it as a rallying point to defend how we feel about ED one way or the other. Me, I used to like ED until he went waaay over the top. At this point, I'd like to see him go out in the Janelle spot (third) that way he keeps the show from being boring, and the HGs on their toes, but ends up spending the Summer locked up with all of these people, doesn't get to go to the sequester house for very long, and doesn't get to win either of the big money prizes.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 8:48 am
I'm not so good with the numbers, but I have a dream that Jen win platinum veto and take Dani/Dick off the block. Zach would for sure go up, maybe with Dustin next to him (however I'd rather save Dustin to go head-to-head with Eric next week). Zach and Dustin on the block - Dick/Dani/Jen vote to keep Zach. Jameka and Amber vote to keep Dustin. Eric's America Vote prolly will be to vote Dustin out, although Dustin will think he's safe because there will be a tie and Jessica will vote to keep him. Dustin goes, much to his surprise and to Dick's profane farewell on his way out the door. Please let it happen.
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Gumby909
Member
08-20-2005
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 8:57 am
It's all the same as before with the nerd herd / fiend sheep - they hide in HOH and only come down in pairs, pretty sad. Once ED and Dani leave it will be as boring as ever and become the Eric show. He is just too gross to watch and he doesn't stop talking! Sorry, my opinion, but he just annoys me and I would have loved to have seen him get nominated by Jessica, that would have been fun to watch.
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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 9:26 am
it seems like Jess would have rather had Jenn or Dustin on the block doesn't it - or am I imagining it?
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 9:31 am
I was really hoping for a Dustin and Eric nomination, or a Dustin and Amber nomination. Can I hop in to your dream, GAL? I'd love for that to happen.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 12:19 pm
Darclyte, Thanks, I had forgotten that they interviewed Dilana, the singer that should have won that "Rock Star" reality show last year. So, Dick knows another reality show loser (one with actual talent) but it still didn't reveal anything about his personal relationships with women outside the house. They only interviewed people involved in rock bands and clubs in order to show whether or not Dick's name dropping was authentic. They didn't interview anyone outside of that rock and roll lifestyle. What about his mother? Does he have any brothers and sisters...a father? Women he is dating or used to date? Or his two ex wives? I wish they had interviewed some of his girlfriends or family members (besides Daniel). My point is that they neglected to interview the women of Dick's life other than than Dilana, who, for all we know, only knows Dick as a groupie or as someone that hangs around the club she's performing in or maybe he's just bartending were she performs. Where were the people with insights into Dick's personal relationships with women outside the BB house? They were conspicuously absent.
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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 1:33 pm
At one point, there was supposed to be an interview with his mother. Was that in the episode with his son or has it still not yet aired? The point of the story that aired Thursday was not to see how the women in his life felt about him, but whether or not he was name dropping or really is involved in the LA Rock Scene. Interviews with people who have insights into his relationships with women is a separate story. I wonder if he's still on the block Thursday if they will have a story about this as it would be fitting, but it didn't make any sense to have such interviews in the context of the story they ran on Thursday's live show.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 1:41 pm
"Interviews with people who have insights into his relationships with women is a separate story" Duh.... That was the problem with that lame story....it didn't address anything important, like why Dick is so incredibly and hatefully abusive to women. It was just a fluff piece with no significance. So what if he knows some rock musicians? Who cares? I want to know why he has anger issues and why he directs his abuse towards women and tries to make them cower and cry? What the hell is wrong with him that makes him act so hatefully? Now that's a worthy story!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 1:52 pm
<55> I care. I know most of the people who were interviewed. I love Dilana and I don't think she's a "reality show loser." And FWIW, most often BB interviews people who are CURRENTLY in a houseguests life. They don't often interview in the past. Finally, I don't know about you, but I'm not a TV <55> I would decline to be interviewed. And I don't care if it's for the most vilified player of the season, or "America's Player", or someone who's totally under the radar.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 2:11 pm
"I love Dilana and I don't think she's a "reality show loser." " Dilana was on a reality show and she LOST...by definition that makes her "a reality show loser". "And FWIW, most often BB interviews people who are CURRENTLY in a houseguests life. They don't often interview in the past" So Dick apparently (and not unexpectedly) has no current female friends that know what he's like outside the house? Like I said, the women in his life have been conspicuously absent from the interviews they have done.
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 6:54 pm
SFJ - ITA and I am doing my darndest to try to find an interview with one of the ex wives or Jerri Manthey. You would think she would be the first to open her trap. Guess they are all afraid to utter a bad word about him.
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