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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 2:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
What555456, whatever it is, I'll bet it doesn't include respect.

Jen
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07-27-2003

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 3:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
Screaming at Jen again after Veto because she didn't do what he thinks she should have.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 3:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Okay, I'm tired of Jen now... indifference is nice and dandy but when someone lacks respect towards her she should react... either tell him in the most polite way what you think or scream the heck out ..."leave me alone" take a cue from Daniele...

Jen
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07-27-2003

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
Yeah, but that hasn't worked with Danielle. He still keeps hounding her too.

I think her not responding to the madness makes her look better.

Sincebb1
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08-22-2005

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 3:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sincebb1 a private message Print Post    
I just wrote a long post about Dick's behavior. I never write long posts, never. I then hit some key that changed my page and erased it all. Must be some Divine intervention. But I do feel the need...

...to say I have been awake and listening to all the things he says. Mostly between 3am and 5am. When I posted his comment about Jen I asked if anyone was listening and no one responded. Must mean that most did not hear for themselves.They were, indeed, playing a "game" off and on for a while. The comment was not part of the game. Dick chose to throw Jen "off a bridge" every time she was a choice. Later Jameka asked Dick if he really would never sleep with Jen. Thus his response.

Dick has said some even more disgusting things late at night that I have not seen posted anywhere. I could not bring myself to write the rest of them down. Jen and Kail have never been present. For the most part it is all said late at night in front of Dustin and Amber (who always join in), and a few times Jameka. None of them have defended the people being attacked. Once Jameka made a feeble attempt on another night when they were talking Jen/hygiene/period to say that Jen actually does bathe, but in the HOH room. But last night she made no attempt to defend and even joined in.

I listen every year, and yes, I am not surprised that at some point it gets nasty. But that does not excuse the behavior just because it happens every year. Although, these comments and actions, for me, have escalated to new heights.

I would pose the question...Dick says these things with his daughter in the house, and sometimes present. So he is not completely removed from reality. And, what if he heard any of these comments being said about his daughter? Do you think he would just shrug them off?

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 3:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
But she doesn't look better to me.. she looks..what's the word "meek" and that's the last manner in which I would want to react to Dick's insults..

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Who looks meek? I don't see one woman in that house who is "Meek".. They are playing a game, each using the tactic that they think will get them the money. You can not be abused unless you allow yourself to be abused. I have been saying this for weeks. None of these people need to take his crap..So why do they????

Wink
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10-06-2000

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 4:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wink a private message Print Post    
Spunky I don't see her as looking "meek" at all but rather looking at him and thinking to herself "are you out of your everloving mind? If you think I'm going to respond to that shit guess again."

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
You can not be abused unless you allow yourself to be abused.

there are many children and spouses who would beg to differ.

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I would agree that Jen is playing the Meek card.

I notice she gets that 'hurt' look on her face when others are around to witness it.

Alone with dick she barely raises an eyebrow

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 4:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"but when someone lacks respect towards her she should react.."

The problem is, Dick is intent on getting her to react to his tirade. If he can engage her and get her to defend herself, it gives him an opening to continue his verbal attack.

When she doesn't react, it leaves him impotent.

Jen seems to be the only person in the house that refuses to give him what he wants. She doesn't step down, she doesn't submit, and she doesn't react to what he says.

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 5:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
Exactly Sanfran!!

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 5:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Jen's indifference may leave Dick impotent but it won't be enough to make him stop his pestering.

He needs to be confronted sooner or later, at least try and if that won't work either, well, then he needs to be ignored totally, but not to try to stand up for your right to dignity seems to me not normal.

Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 6:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
Woody!!! Nice to see you posting!

We've all missed you.

I agree with all your posts here so far.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 6:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
I am guessing that they think Dick is doing their dirty work for now and that they will put him up later. Too bad that plan often backfires in BB.

It's funny how they went out of their way to split up the three pairs.....except for Dick and Dani.

Spunky, I agree he needs to be confronted, but I believe they think that confronting Dick now will just make their time in the house pure hell until he is finally evicted, and they are too afraid to do anything yet. They are just hoping for "the right time" to present itself so they can de-Dick the house. They might just "hope" their way out of the house if they don't grow some cojones and act on it.

My guess is that Dustin will try to get him out after Jen, Kail, Zach, and Nick are gone, but that will be too late. It's BB....someone from "the other side" always gets to be HOH and throws a wrench in the works while the main group is still under the belief that they will control the house for the rest of the summer!

I like Jen's indifference to Dick. I know it makes her come across as pretty odd, but in BB, it's a godsend for her to have the anti-Dick superpower of indifference.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 6:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
I can only imagine what he is like when an employee, co worker, significant other doesn't do what he wants. Danielle has even said herself, this is what it was like when she was growing up but worse.

I don't think it is game for ED, I think it is who he is.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
SanFran it does seem confronting ED would be the answer, but, Danielle has done that, she has told him how it makes others feel and think about him. It did not change him one bit.

Maybe Jen's indifference is the best route or maybe she could just say...Wow ED, I see this is really getting to you...and then just keep smiling and repeating that.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 6:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
I totally agree, Boberg. If it was just "game" for Dick, he wouldn't be carrying on about sexual things he wants to do to some of the women in the house....when no one is in the room with him! He says those things to the camera when he is alone. (I've read on this board that he does this, but haven't seen it myself.)

How are violent sexual threats made to the cameras part of his "game" if no one is around to be intimidated? That's not "game"....<55>

Naja
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06-28-2003

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 6:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
When someone expresses their anger in sort of unsavory low class type of talk, it's lack of education to express it in a more "PC" manner. I can still be his fan for the game and not enjoy some of the ways he expresses himself <55>

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 6:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"SanFran it does seem confronting ED would be the answer, but, Danielle has done that, she has told him how it makes others feel and think about him. It did not change him one bit. "

I personally don't think anything the HG do in that house will change Dick at all.

All they can do is try to tolerate him until they kick him out. I believe Dick will be the same after BB. According to Dani, he's the same in the house as he was before BB.

Sanfranjoshfan
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Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
My problem isn't "how" he expresses himself. I believe he expresses himself quite honestly.

My problem is that the honesty he expresses is cruel.

Guinevere
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03-15-2001

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Guinevere a private message Print Post    
I've never understood why being totally honest and always saying what you think are things to be lauded. As we grow up, we learn about appropriate behavior, tact, kindness and compassion. The world does not need Dick's opinion, kind or cruel, on everything. The other HGs do not need Dick's opinion, kind or (more often) cruel, on everything. Dick can keep his mouth shut and his damn opinion to himself once in a while, and I would like and respect him a lot more for it.

Ivory_mist
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08-31-2005

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 6:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ivory_mist a private message Print Post    
Can you imagine how Dick's mom, who is an ordained minister, must feel...when she hears the crap come out of his mouth. It must really be embarrassing for her.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 7:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
I suspect his mom is used to this. After all, she was the one who had to take over raising his children so he could travel, do drugs and be a bartender.

No doubt, she thought she was done raising children and was not all that keen at starting another family at whatever advanced age she was at the time. But she, at least, had the kindness and the goodness to take in the children when they needed protecting.

I can't help but think that when Dick compares his self-absorbed life with his mother's life of giving that this is part of what Dick hates about himself and why he needs to belittle and humiliate women.

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 7:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
Hear! Hear! Guinevere!!!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 7:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
and that was way worse than what I said !! LOL