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Fan3
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:52 am
I could give my opion but that would open a new can of worms...just going to say I disagree
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Delilah
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:53 am
Chere - i think Daniele might see the advanatage, although I don't know if she would openly admit it. Last night during her crying jag, she said how its impossible to play this game alone. So I think she realizes he has been an asset to her in many ways ... but again, I don't know if she would admit that.
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Typingfool
Member
06-07-2006
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:54 am
I don't understand why Jameka is the one to blame. Didn't Dick draw the line in the sand after the HOH comp when he was going off on her? Oh that's right...King Dick, Lord of all Lords of the BB house does no wrong. Gotcha!
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Tanith
Member
08-25-2006
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:54 am
I wish Eric and Jess could get something going with Jen and Zach. I don't trust that Dani will have Jen's back at all.
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Suzsmarmie
Member
07-26-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:54 am
Jameka absolutely goaded him..she even bragged about it to the brave guys who were hiding in the hot tub. She said she followed him around until he said something. I was cringing during the whole confrontation until I heard her say she had done that. Huh? She has been taking the high road on this, but apparently now that her group is in power, she feels free to join the mentality..very sad.
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Kidsatm
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:55 am
Good post Jeanne.
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Typingfool
Member
06-07-2006
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:56 am
It's no different than what Dick has done to Kail and Jen and Nick and Mike when he was in power. 2 wrongs don't make a right, but it sure makes it fun to watch when someone gets fed up enough, grows some cajones and stands up to King Dick. Talk about hypocritical. It's ok for Dick but no one else to use that strategy...LOL
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:56 am
Suzs ... it happens every year.
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:59 am
Typingfool, I think it's okay for any of them, frankly. What bugs me is how people go on about how awful Dick is, when we all know that eventually all the houseguests pretty much end up turning on and exposing their own uglies. (See, GOD is watching over the house -- he's keeping us entertained!)
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Suzsmarmie
Member
07-26-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:01 am
I understand that, typing...I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is don't put yourself in a position to be yelled at or whatever..just revel in your victory with your peeps and leave him alone..what did that accomplish? Had he been following HER around, goading her, then, yeah..hit him with your best shot. Even more disappointed in Eric. He couldn't stop spewing his venom about Dani long enough to acknowledge the fact that she gave him her HOH room for what? 4 hours?? That was just wrong, and I wish someone would point that out to him.
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:01 am
Actually, the tension between Jameka and Dick started earlier in the evening shortly after Jessica won HoH. It really doesn't matter now because none of it can be taken back. I think the fight between Dick and Jameka had been brewing for weeks, probably since week two when Dick called Jameka out about her religion in the backyard. Their blow out was bound to happen, it was only a matter of time.
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:05 am
Eric and Dustin were disappointing in the backyard talking smack about Dick behind the closed patio door where he couldn't hear them. At least Jameka and Amber approached him face on.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:05 am
Jameka absolutely goaded him..she even bragged about it to the brave guys who were hiding in the hot tub. She said she followed him around until he said something. I was cringing during the whole confrontation until I heard her say she had done that. Huh? She has been taking the high road on this, but apparently now that her group is in power, she feels free to join the mentality..very sad. Thank goodness someone besides me saw this. It was on showtime and that exactly what she said.
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:08 am
but apparently now that her group is in power, she feels free to join the mentality..very sad. How many times has Dick waited until he was safe before he went off on Jen and Kail? Dick's rants towards them was just as calculating. As Dick would say, it's part of the game.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:08 am
I am uncomfortable when houseguests stress too much the religious side of their life while in the BB house. No problem with them acknowledging their faith, but Jameka, Amber, and yes Kail all have gone too far in suggesting that God is on their side. Believing the outcome is ordained is even OK as long as they do not assume that they are the ones ordained. I feel that that is being self righteous. I really dislike the "we are the good people group" mentality. Of course there is also a "good people mentality." that has nothing to do with religion and we have seen that as well in the BB house. Saying all that, I also have a problem with people using one's religion against them. Dick's viewpoint seems to be that "I am not religions, so I can say and do pretty much whatever I please and no one should object because I am open and upfront and "honest" aboout it. But you, because you are a Christian must abide by MY interpretion of what a Christian is and can do. Because you profess to be a Chrisitan, it is wrong for you to do the things it is OK that I do." Somehow I have a problem with that. I think that attitude is as much hypocritical as the Christian who professes one thing and does another. He has stated that he considers himself a good person. If it is wrong for a Christian, isn't it also wrong for a good person who is not a Christian. Isn't that also being hypocritical? And there is another difference I see. Jameka apparently feels badly that she went over the line. It bothers her because that is probably not the way she usually acts. It does not bother Dick because that is probably the way he DOES usually act. Even his friends who like him and defended him acknowledged that you love him or hate him. They would not have said that if he did often not do things to offend people. He obviously feels comfortable saying he things he does. Jameka just as obviously does not. There has been a lot of ugly talk by houseguests about other houseguests. That happens every year and is nothing new. The thing that puzzles me is how so many fans do not realize that they all do it to some degree. The people who are more outspoken are usually the ones who do the most, but they all do it. And in this BB house like all the others, it has come from both camps. I am frequently appalled by some of the things that are said that have nothing to do with the game. Of course it is an assumption on my part that it has nothing to do with the game, because blackening the character of the target and demonizing them seem to be the most commonly used method of getting them voted out. It almost worked against Eric this week and did with Nck the week before. And Dick used it quite well against Kail and Jen, although he was less than successful in getting them voted out. I find it a distasteful way to play the game, but that also has always been done. I do not find the bullying tactics of Dick acceptable. I have no problem with confrontations. They are the most interesting events in the house, but Dick's are way beyond anything we have ever seen before. Few if any houseguests have ever endulged in this kind of behavior on a regular basis. I do not feel in condemning it, I am condoning the other houseguests' misbehavior, as some people seem to feel. I do not see an either/or situation here. I just feel that Dick's behavior is on a whole different level that the rest. And it is really a shame, because when Dick is not being ugly and abusive, he can be very charming and could have been a very interesting character. Right at first, I liked his out front, tell it like it is attitude: that is until he became abusive with it. He lost me with the first tirade. Sorry about the long post, I just felt I needed to say what I was thinking.
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Delilah
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:11 am
Have you all seen Daniele's HOH blog? I was a little surprised she just had one graph for her boyfriend and about five or six graphs for Nick.
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:14 am
Allietex, I enjoyed reading your post. Thank you for posting it.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:17 am
Allietex, thanks for your thoughtful post. I agree with much of it, especially the last paragraph. If Dick had dialed it back and not been so hideous to Jen, we'd have a different game I think. On the religion issue, I feel that people who apply to play this game can bring any and all aspects of their personal lives into it that they choose. Would they be better off checking it at the door? Probably. When one deviates from what one professes to believe, it just creates an opportunity to take a stab at the person.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:18 am
It was a nice post Allietex. I wonder though WHY someone who is so religious would even put themselves in the Big Brother house? Do they not know after 7 seasons how it is there???
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Dfng
Member
08-04-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:18 am
Dick has ranted on people when he was not safe. Dick doesn't care when he tells people off. He did it to Jen right before her noms. Why is it that if someone does something really wrong in the house and it's being discussed, the response to that discussion is to point out someone else's wrongs as if that makes the second wrong okay. A wrong is a wrong. It's all about accountability not justification.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:20 am
Good post, Allie. Yes, Dick's confrotational play could have been very good, but he crossed the line when he went into threatening really gruesome stuff and using the C word. He just turned too many people off.
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Dfng
Member
08-04-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:21 am
I think you can be a religious person in the game, but when you use your said religion as a reason for your actions then you are bringing religion into the game and are then open for interpretation by the houseguests. If you don't agree with her decisioning about using her religion I think it is fair for a houseguest to call her out on it. She opened that can of worms.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:21 am
I think Jameka's actions last night damaged her credibility as a Christian witness in the house. It gives those people who are anti-Christian a target to pin on her. She should have prayed about it and not let her "human" side take control. But we all fall short! It does not make her less of a Christian, but it did damage her witness to other people. Just my opinion though! I think it is inevitable that Dick will go and I'm willing to accept that (I could really care less but wouldn't you DESPISE living with him in sequester?). However I think that Jen/Zach/Dani better hope they win HOH next week and take out either Dustin, Jessica or Jameka (ignore the easier, more annoying targets...for instance Eric's credibility is forever damaged, Amber can be emotionally swayed at the drop of a hat). They need to break up that little group ASAP or else we will have another Nerd Herd run like in Season Six. Which would, of course, mean I would get a lot more sleep because boredom sets in quickly when a bunch of egotistical nerds get control of a situation.
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Foggy
Member
07-30-2005
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:22 am
I am uncomfortable when houseguests stress too much the religious side of their life while in the BB house. No problem with them acknowledging their faith, but Jameka, Amber, and yes Kail all have gone too far in suggesting that God is on their side. Believing the outcome is ordained is even OK as long as they do not assume that they are the ones ordained. I feel that that is being self righteous. I really dislike the "we are the good people group" mentality. AMEN to that!!!!! Allitex
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:23 am
Thanks for that post Dfnh. WOW! I didn't realize they were that bad. Accusing Dick of incest??
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