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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 5: Please BB evict dick in the middle of the night!!: Archive through August 10, 2007 users admin

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Caprica
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02-10-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 7:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
Dick should not be removed from the house for his actions. BB has let him get away with all his crap so far so why remove him now. Jameka’s faith is very important to her and Dick started in about her faith knowing he could get a rise out of her. There is only so much people can take and this mentality that its OK for Dick to say whatever he wants and no one can defend themselves is just sickening.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Hola, Nic!

Maybe I have become desensitized, but I would think by now the HGs would know what was going to come out of Dick's mouth and be better able to shrug it off. Just smile at him and say, "Okay, Dick, whatever you say!" That doesn't excuse what he says, but it would definitely be a better reaction for it.

Oh, the drama!

Neosporen
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08-18-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neosporen a private message Print Post    
ummm..Jameka started it in the kitchen, not ED...she was looking for a fight...and I happen to agree with ED...<55>
By lying to Ed and dani and not just telling them, I am voting to keep Eric because he will go after you, instead she PRETENDED (Also a form of lying) to like them, espcially Dani....

Ed called her out on lying in the game and she denied it....

Annatopia
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07-19-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 7:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Annatopia a private message Print Post    
auntfer - i dvr'ed the show, and the very last little bit we see before the show ends is dick and jameka going at it. it appeared to me that dick immediately went after dustin, then started in on jameka, accusing each of them of casting the last vote to evict kail.

in other words, it seems that the dick/jameka drama started immediately after the live show. we missed quite a bit due to the feeds being out, and then we saw what appeared to be jameka starting a fight with dick.

i'm just saying this for context purposes. dick had already started in on jameka right after the live show, and what we saw last night transpired a few hours afterwards.

also, my interpretation here is that each individual was scared to stand up to dick before this week. when the plan was hatched to evict kail, each saw it as an opportunity to stick it to the bully they've been tolerating all season. i think each person (jess/jam/amber/dustin) was scared that someone would cave to dick and dani. but once kail was evicted, they all realised that they could fight back and have backup when doing so. i think deep down, amber/jam/jess/dustin would never stand up to someone like dick. but now that they know they have each others' backs, they're more willing to stand up to the harassment and bullying.

it's almost like a gang dynamic. they've come together for mutual protection.

Auntfer
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08-24-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntfer a private message Print Post    
Thanks Annatopia. I think that is my point. What happened between the last we saw on the live show to when the live feeds came back up. A lot could of happened that led to Jameka and Amber bashing Dick.
I think they are all tired of it. Tired of being bashed and tired of listening to someone else being bashed. I know I'm tired of it. Get him out and let's get back to playing the game.

Suzsmarmie
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07-26-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Suzsmarmie a private message Print Post    
Well said, Costa. I was squirming when Dick went off on Jameka, and I was begging him to stop....UNTIL 5 minutes later, Jameka brags to Dustin, Eric, etal that SHE followed him around until he finally said something. I realize not everybody watches Sho2, but I do, and I saw that. No denying she was reveling in her ability to goad him on..

And I really hate that, because she has been (at least on the surface) taking the high road. Because they are all "in power" now, she has taken on the herd mentality. And, in fact, the point that "he" was no longer in power, was brought up by her several times.

Most disappointed at Eric not even cutting Dani a break in his venom spewing to acknowledge the fact that she gave him her HOH room for what? 4 hours?

I'm thinkin' either Jen or Zach need to get to the end; that's the only way I'll have anybody to pull for..lol.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 8:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Jameka did not have to plop her butt down between Dani and Dick or follow him inside if she didn't want to start any trouble.."Ms. I'm better than that because I read the Bible and pray" decided to create her own drama and in the meantime only made her true colors show. If you can't play with the big dogs, stay on the porch. She thought she could "show Dick she could call him out" <77>. What real Christian do you know who would call someone's mother a <77> None I know. She has deluded herself that she is above schoolyard "yo Momma" crap.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
What real Christian do you know who would call someone's mother a <77>? None I know. She has deluded herself that she is above schoolyard "yo Momma" crap.

You rock Earthmother! Well said.}

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
EarthMother I agree with your post, (again) I even at one time heard Jen asked Dani how to put up with her Dad, and Dani said walk away. It was Dani that trying to be nice and let Eric use her room, that led to Kail being gone. So the HG knew there was going to be a blowup. They had laughed about it before hand.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
From Christii above

I love how some people are saying that Jam and Am provoked ED , like you need to be on eggshells around him or something.

I have a son who is a District Attorney and is currently assigned to domestic violence cases. This, of course, is the mindset of so many who initially call the police and then renege on the filing -- the are convinced that they (the victims) are the ones who really cause it because if the victim had acted differently, the abuser would not have abused.

We have seen this excuse for Dick used over and over again in the past few weeks on this Board. Why doesn't the victim walk away? Why doesn't the victim isolate herself in another room from him? Why doesn't the victim be more careful with what she says to him? Why doesn't the victim just act the way he tells her to act?

And now, when others finally stand up to him, his supporters continue to use this excuse -- why are they standing up to him? Why are they calling him out? Why do anything that might make Dick angry? If they stand up to him, they are at fault because they know he will just get angry. They should just be nice and not do anything that might provoke him. if they provoke him, though, they are the ones at fault, not Dick. He is just being honest and true and who he is.

This is the condition the abuser wants people to be in -- afraid to do anything for fear of his wrath. And the abuser is allowed to get away with this because there are others who agree that it is really the victim's fault because if they had just acted the way the abuser wanted, the abuser would not abuse them.

Hogwash!

Streetsmart
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08-06-2006

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Streetsmart a private message Print Post    
That is the post of the year!

100 % true and something ive been saying this whole time!

Who does he think he is to abuse people? And make no mistake about it that is abuse. If i talked to anyone like that id be arressted.

Kimsue
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07-08-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kimsue a private message Print Post    
they could all act like Jan, as if it were nothing to her and all Dicks problem.

As with most people who behave badly if you do not give them the attention they are looking for it usually (but not always) becomes boring for them. Then they move on.

Keep in mind I said behaving badly and not criminally.

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
Bravo, What!!!

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
You are right Pinnie, and Jameka and Amber are playing theirs as well. If they put themselves in the same situation that they complain about then how is that supposed to come off to anyone except that they with full knowledge set out to cause this behavior. The truth is that they both lied to Dick and know he was right about Eric. They chose to do what they wanted and follow Dustin, so now they have to try and get everyone to see what they did is justified. All it proved to many, many of us is that they play just as dirty, Bible or not.

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06-30-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moderator a private message Print Post    
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Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Well if the "victims" are standing up to Dick, guess he's not much of an abuser now is he?

Seems to me that Dick is an abuser when people don't stand up to him, and now he's one when they do. I simply do not understand the logic of this thought process. It cannot be both ways.

The fact that Jameka and Amber were "poking the bear", re-enforces my stance that Dick is NOT an abuser. If those women felt threatened, intimidated, abused by Dick, they would not have ardently set out to rile him up.

Thank you Jameka and Amber....for making my point for me...

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Well said, What.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Actually, that is not necessarily true, Kep. My ex-husband was very verbally abusive with me and sometimes I would get to a point where I was so fed up that I lashed back in the only way I could think how, which was a passive-aggressive poking the bear tactic. Not saying Dick is abusive or that Jameka and Amber are victims in this case, but I know for me, I did poke the bear sometimes, trying to strike back or get even or piss him off in retaliation for how he treated me. Verbally abusive relationships are very unhealthy on both sides. It's a sick dance.

Again, I'm not saying that is what is going on here. It sounds to me like all parties were being ugly and there is no real victim or perpetrator in this situation.

Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
Look at the feeds now. This is what you will be seeing when Dick is gone. ZZZzzzzzz

Jeannie23
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07-16-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeannie23 a private message Print Post    
I find Jameka every bit as offensive as Dick- more so.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Kep, it is well documented in domestic abuse literature that sometimes the 'victim' does engage in some 'poking the bear' behavior. It's part of the abuser/victim dynamic.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I agree Hermione....but I still don't see the women in the house as "victims". None of them were are afraid to speak up....when they have the mind to, or when its advantageous to their own gameplay.

Did your abusive husband treat women he didn't have a relationship with the same way he treated you? I know mine didn't.

Dick doesn't have a relationship with anyone in that house BUT the one woman he is gentle with...so Dick's actions are a direct opposite of most abusive men...

Joyfuld
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08-16-2005

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Joyfuld a private message Print Post    
If Dick stays in the game any longer more and more houseguests will stand up to him. Enough is enough.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Did your abusive husband treat women he didn't have a relationship with the same way he treated you? I know mine didn't.

Nope, just me. :-) I see your points about Dick's not having a relationship, at least not in the conventional sense of the word, with the HGs. It really does sound to me like they were all guilty in this incident.

Jeannie23
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07-16-2007

Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeannie23 a private message Print Post    
I hope more and more HG's stand up to Jameka and Amber and tell them to shut the hell up.