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Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Oh, okay, Jen told Dick that he better be careful when he gets out of the house, and in the beginning she said something about not wanting the old guy to touch her, and yesterday she was pointing out Dani's own less than stellar moral behavior.

And Dick, in turn, has said things about Jen until she bleeds, strangling her, wanting her to die a slow and painful death, making "rank p*ssy" cracks, asking her how she likes the verbal abuse, telling her she is immoral, telling her she should clean her tw*t with Drano and pouring a drink on her.

Yep, seems pretty equal to me.

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
Earthmother, when has Jen tried to attach a "perv" label to Dick? I haven't heard her say anything like that.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
He goes to the extreme no doubt about it but she is NO innocent victim. She eggs him on, yesterday she kept seeking him out. The two of them are both at fault. He does it his way and she does it her way.

People want to be blinded and just look at the way Dick acts because he is more outspoken and out there but Jen is right there in her own little way!

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
When has this game ever been about equal? They have both decided to play this game in an way that upsets the masses. So what? Yes his responses are vile, but I think trying to turn a man into a sexual pervert in the first competition was a mistake for her, but it's her game and I think she may have thought it would be easier to defile him than obviously it wasn't.

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
Then, educate me, EM. Point out the instances where Jen has done this that I have missed. Other than the incident in the early comp, I haven't heard of anything else like that she's done, or I would be able to quote it. I thought it was terrible when Lisa did that to Gerry.

Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
From what I HEARD (since we did not have the live feeds when it was said)

Jen did not want him touching her because he's a smoker. That was the story they all tell. I did not hear Jen or anyone else call Dick a perv.

I could be wrong, but NONE OF US were in the house during that first comp.

I think Zach has received the 'perv' label, though, not Dick.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Her comment was that he was a dirty old man. She then went to the smoker's hands.

Bubba
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07-29-2005

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bubba a private message Print Post    
I don't think she was trying to make him into a pervert, I think she honestly didn't want to be touched by him, and as my girlfriends says she wouldn't want him touching her either.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Point out the instances where Jen has done this that I have missed. Other than the incident in the early comp, I haven't heard of anything else like that she's done, or I would be able to quote it.

It didn't continue because he immediately put a stop to it by turning on her to the other hgs. He was not going to allow her to defile him, and if he hadn't you would still be hearing about it or he would have been voted out when she put him up.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Don't for one minute think he's not holding a grudge because of what she tried to do. He saw how damaging that was for Gerry and he wasn't going to be victimized by her so instead he finds it better to victimize her. Wether right or wrong it's his way of keeping her from spreading any rumors about him "wanting her and creeping her out"..

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
OK then, Earthmother, please don't say that I have deliberately ignored incidents of Jen making comments that Dick is a perv. Clearly I can't stand Dick, but I don't want to be unfair and give Jen a pass for bad behaviour either.

Penpoint
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03-27-2001

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Penpoint a private message Print Post    
Earthmother, you've become one of Dick's most vocal defenders. I'm interested to know what it is that you find so redeeming about him that most of the rest of us don't see? And I'm not asking about Dick's or Jen's or anyone's "game" strategy -- what is it about the man, Dick, from what you've seen of him that appeals to you?

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
earthmother as usual I agree with you 100%. <55>

Tanith
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08-25-2006

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tanith a private message Print Post    
Dick's behavior in that house last night was inexcusably appalling. I'm so sick of him using Daniele as his scapegoat for his actions. She cries to him and then is whooping it up with Nick in the bedroom. I've never seen anyone turn the faucets on and off as quickly as Daniele.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
I understand how people will see this diffferently.

The thing is, when Dick crossed that line between verbal abuse and physcal contact (out of anger) showed that he lost control for that moment. A person that can literally lose control of his actions out of rage cannot guarantee that he won't do it again.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
When Dick is not being a jerk, he seems like a very caring man. When you see him with Jess he's very sweet. When you see his private time with Dani he's always very sweet. He wears his heart on his sleeve, he's a very emotional person.
He cries
He yells
he's crazy
but there is something about Dick that is very true.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
I personally do NOT think Dick would do any PHYSICAL harm to Jen or anyone in that house. I don't find pouring tea on someone physical harm.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Bubba, I'm sorry, but it was a team competition. It wasn't right when it was said about BB3 Gerry, and it's not right now about Dick, imo.

Tanith
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08-25-2006

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tanith a private message Print Post    
Angelic, sometimes emotional harm is greater than physical.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
Agreed, Tanith!

But Jen seems to be handling it quite well & other people are talking about him taking it furthur and I just don't see it happening.

IMO I think when Dick feels like he's going to explode, he should maybe go to the DR and let his steam off there or something.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
though i don't agree with the iced tea incident, i find the character 'Dick' an interesting study and look forward to seeing how CBS portrays him differently on the show from what is seen on the feeds. i like Dick as a character in this show.

if i were to witness something like that in real life - as in NOT on a TV game show - them i would be appalled, be upset and do something about it.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
Sometimes I wonder - when people do not see abuse as abuse, does that mean that they are rationalizing abuse in their own lives?

Dick can be very charming, Dick can be very entertaining, but Dick is exhibiting ABUSIVE behavior that would get him fired from any job he was in (except maybe WWF announcer.)

Lucas
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07-01-2005

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lucas a private message Print Post    
Most really mean, angry, bullying people, move on to sweet behavior, usually within a few hours of an outburst. It is part of the pattern. Angelic, I am not saying Dick is one, but how many adults return with flowers after crossing a line.

I am not sure the sweet behavior or the outbursts really speak to who Dick is. I think the truth lies somewhere between what his son and daughter have voiced, not to mention Dick himself. He has told wild stories of being a jerk himself, then has talked about buying the dishwashers beer after their shifts.

I do not think it can be debated that if your on Dick's good side, he is a good friend, but if you do something that he see's as crossing him, you had better watch out, cause it gets brutal.

Sidecar
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07-23-2007

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sidecar a private message Print Post    
I know its been said before, but Jen is somebody's daughter, their baby. She may act like a spoiled brat at times, but still...the comments he has made are WAY over the top. Even if they are 'strategic' for 'gameplay' they could be toned WAY down and still be in keeping with the Character Known as Dick. I used to want to keep him in the house because I found him interesting, but now, I dont care if he's voted out next week. As Amber says..I CAN'T..IT'S TOO MUCH

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"When Dick is not being a jerk, he seems like a very caring man"

Sounds like you are Describing Dr Jekyll/Mr Hide.

It doesn't matter what Dick is like when he "is not being a jerk" because when he IS, he is verbally abusive and he physically lashes out because he is out of control.