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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 4: America's Player (ARCHIVES): Archive through August 03, 2007 users admin

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Kidsatm
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07-08-2005

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kidsatm a private message Print Post    
well put Jimmer

Mrsmel
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07-04-2007

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mrsmel a private message Print Post    
I vote for calling him America's Puppet....LOL

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
I totally agree with you, Jimmer! :-)

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 1:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
ITA Jimmer. We can't expect Eric to be a robot, he still has to play the game.

Cousin_jake
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07-04-2002

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Well folks, he was only put in there to play OUR game, not his. He shouldn't be campaigning for anyone 'till he finds out who we want nominated and/or voted out. Just do the "gee, it's tough to decide, let me think about it" thing.
I'm over it and I'm sick of listening to him scramble.

Eastcoastfan
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07-09-2005

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I don't buy the half baked attempts he did for show, to make it look as if he was trying to get someone nominated or evicted. I wanted to like him so bad at first because I really do like the AP twist, I just can not get over how much he reminds me of James from BB6. When Eric is nervous, he acts all weazely like james did.

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 4:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
One of the biggest problems is that the voting for America's Player comes so long after the actual events in the house. If he doesn't take action right away, he is stuck trying to flip something after the decision has already been made.

By the time the Sunday show gives the nomination information, the veto has already been won and maneuvering is already taking place. If Eric stands by and does nothing, he risks having no influence and puts himself and his allies at risk. By the time 12 am Wednesday rolls around and he gets the information about whom to vote out, so many more things have happened that the TV viewer is not aware of. For instance, Dick and Nick went off on Jen on Monday, but it wasn't shown until Thursday, too late to influence any voting.

It is a severe handicap for Eric to be having to play the game for viewers who are 2-3 days behind the current events in the house. He can't capitalize on opportunities as they present themselves. Add to the fact that the voters don't seem to care about Eric but only about keeping the cute guys in, and Eric is in a bad, bad spot.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 4:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Add to the fact that the voters don't seem to care about Eric but only about keeping the cute guys in, and Eric is in a bad, bad spot.

Cute guys? There were cute guys on this year? Sorry just funnin' ya! LOL And I totally agree...nevermind the game..."I just wanna see eye candy!"

Freetimefinally
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01-26-2006

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 4:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Freetimefinally a private message Print Post    
"Well folks, he was only put in there to play OUR game, not his."

This is not so. If this were the case he would have a high salery and no chance to win the $500,000. Since he does have a chance to win the money he is playing for himself first. The measly $10,00 for five tasks is nothing compared to what is available.

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 4:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
I have posted in the BB game area (within the USA 2007 BB link) for playing a game here at TVCH that mirrors the AP game. If you might have any interest, take a look.

AP game

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 5:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It all comes down to different expectations for America's Player. Is America's Player supposed to respond to our every whim, regardless of how it affects him in the house? Is America's Player our robot to do with as we wish? Is he our servant?

Or is he a flesh and blood human being who is in a partnership with Big Brother fans, who want to help him influence the outcome of the game?

Part of our continued influence in the game is helping him continue to play and be able to exert influence on our behalf. He can't influence the game if he is sitting on the bench with the other Houseguests who have been evicted.

The reaction of many fans to America's Player makes me realize why the concept of fan voting worked so poorly in the American Big Brother game and why they did away with it.

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Your game idea sounds great Lance!

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 5:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, I have said it before...since I started coming to these boards in 2002, people here have complained about having NO input...now they have input and they are still complaining! I don't get it!

WoodpeckeŽ
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07-16-2002

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 5:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send WoodpeckeŽ a private message Print Post    
America's Player is an OK idea. If Eric left tomorrow, I wouldn't care. If he stays, I don't care, either. I'm neutral. They need to give him more things to do. He's dull. And he's a bit nerdish and possibly mean. Dick would have been a better choice. Ha!

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 5:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I actually have never wanted the fans to have any input. I abhor voting bots and the winners of these sorts of things are usually, IMO, voted for because of their cute/hunk factor.

I also don't see why people who wanted input into the game can't complain. Of course, no single method of having a true AP would satisfy everyone, but I think this just isn't working. Feel free to complain to your heart's content. I'm sure there are a whole bunch of us who aren't pleased with the way the AP works.

Now, returning to your regularly scheduled program.

HI WOODY! Long time no see!

Lynn
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07-27-2005

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Lainee, we still have no input. Eric does not listen to us. If he had tried to get Kail evicted and not Nick then I would have no problem with him. He is useless as our player.

Crazy
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06-12-2006

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I'm not sure why we were to vote on the Nom's when many voting viewers don't even know who got HOH. It's hard to help Eric when you don't know what's going on. I think this time they should have let him do something other than nom's. Maybe the showmance thing this time. Anyway, I like being able to vote, but I wish it was based on strategy and not popularity. To me it made perfect sense getting out Nick. With him in the game, there was a sure 2 votes on the jury out of the three (Nick,Dani, Dick) if one was F2, but not only that, even if none of three were F2, they would most likely all three vote the same way on the jury. That would not be a good thing for the other hg's.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 5:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
You know what I think would be fun? If America's player really could know (besides these few limited items) what the viewers thought. A blog where Eric could post and read comments.

Now, THAT would make him truly America's Player.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 5:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Did America vote again for Kail or for Jen?

This is getting repetitive!

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
I dunno, Spunky...I actually voted for Amber! LOL

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

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Kar, that's a great idea! You should send that to the producers!

Lucymac
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07-06-2005

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lucymac a private message Print Post    
Karuuna I agree that would be great. I wish we could feed him more information. I don't know how they would accomplish it without him being in the DR even more time, but I would love to see them figure out how to do that! I think that would make a lot of people happier.

Plus it would be great that he could tell us why he thinks he needs to do certain things.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

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Kar, love it but I think only way for that to work is if he wasnt eligible to win. They could have a final 3 and if he was in it he could spill all and bow out

Pamy
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01-02-2002

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I just remembered they didnt even show the catch phrase last nite....maybe if they didnt recap recaps they woulda had time

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 6:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Pamy...it's probably because Eric has barelysaid the catch phrase since the night he got the assignment

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 7:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I thought Eric worked hard to get them to say the catch phrase. He even had the clever idea of trying to invent some sort of game called "I'd do that for a dollar" but the other HGs weren't in the mood to play it.