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Marameko
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07-15-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
Thanks Tres to you as well !

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
No, C1...he was very persistent with Jess and Jameka that Nick must leave this week. Neither Eric nor Jess want to get together for the group meeting ED called tonight.

Aerojunki
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06-30-2004

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aerojunki a private message Print Post    
You're welcome, Marameko

Robinyyes
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07-06-2004

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Robinyyes a private message Print Post    
LOL C1, Being 'Brilliant' and paranoid are two very different things. Eric wants Nick out because he sees him as a threat, not as some pinky and the brain kind of brilliant plan.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
C1 ... yes it may have been smart... I don't know... But it is circumventing the AP position. He is supposed to be out advocate. He is supposed to be the voice of America in the house. And when America tells him to work to get PersonX out and vote to evict PersonX, he should be doing that. But instead he is playing for himself and not for America...

That would be fine, if he were not given the advantage in the Diary room by being told what America wants...

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Bon I don't understand what you mean by "privy to what america sees?" Eric is not given any knowledge of what is going on in the house other than results of votes. It would be very foolish if Eric played based on who America always wanted eliminated because it would be assumed that America would base who they wanted as nothing more than a popularity contest. If thats the case then just send them all home now and give it to Americas darling. This AP idea really puts Erics game at risk. I suspect thats why he gets money because it could literally get him evicted if he is not careful. I consider him to be at a disadvantage. Apparently they picked the right person. Not only does he want the 10,000 but he also wants to get to the end. Thats a good thing. He will clearly see when America asks him to vote that if it doesn't work to keep him in the game he will be very careful to protect himself. I like that.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Robin it was brilliant. He set it up all in advance before he was even told who to vote out and he was smart enough to know more than likely his vote would be against the very thing he was asking for so he covered himself. Most people would not work two steps ahead like that. In fact all the rest don't have that added pressure that America would willingly put their game at risk based on personality vs the game. He gets huge Kudos.

It was brilliant how he shut down Dick and Danielle so fast when he knew they would try to get Jameka to not use that veto. Even more brilliant how he has methodically worked to get that one player nominated and out of the game that he personally feels is a threat to his game. He actually took on not only the house but America in this case. You may not like it because this may mean a favorite of yours would be in trouble if Nick goes but you don't need to worry you aren't playing for the win.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
IF the vote was for kail and he refused to push for his eviction, i am going to do my best to see he has a showmance with Zach.

eric should also realize that we see more than him. he should think that kale 'might' be targeting him as much as nick.

but if it's for nick, so be it.

i would rather have kail gone so jen can form an alliance with jess and eric.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Bon as I said he will hand his vote over. However, the rules say he must be careful as well or he will be eliminated. You got what you wanted he gave his vote. You also got what was promised. He was careful not to set himself up to be a target. Like I said it's crazy to ask the guy to keep a person that he knows would target him.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I see the AP position as America. America is able to play the game through Eric. Eric is our Pawn.

The viewers are able to see all of the houseguests and the conversations they have with others and determine who is the person to evict. America can see the big picture that any houseguest filled with suspicion, paranoia and a lack of trust cannot see... America is able to weed through the lies and deceipt and tell Their player what move to make next...but we cannot getfarther if our Pawn will not move the directions we like.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
The application says you must be 21. They change the rules to suit themselves.


they can get around it by saying she turns 21 while in the house. her b-day is aug 20th.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Eric also sees and hears things we do not.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Eric also sees and hears things we do not.

True, I would like for him to have conversations with the camera so he can tell us his thought process...

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
ZM even if Nick goes I would be willing to bet America would do something screwy with who they want to see Eric have a romance with. That was pretty obvious when he was asked to get in bed with Joe.

I would like to see Kail go but just because I want her gone. But looking at the bigger picture I am asking Eric to keep in a person who will definitely target him. A person who Eric already knows will screw him over. I can see Eric using Kail to his benefit. I can't see Eric doing anything but setting himself up to be an early target with keeping Nick in the game.

If you would like to see him form an alliance with Jen along with Jessica then the best move is to get Nick out so that Jen has one less target after her and it weakens those that want her out as well. Dick and his daughter and Zach would be the only ones left that would want Jen gone.

Kattatude
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04-28-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kattatude a private message Print Post    
I'd think that as most of us have always been armchair coaches that we'd want to see if we can lead Eric to the win. Voting to allow someone to stay who is a danger to him in the game is no help to him. It puts him at risk. I think most Americans just want their favorites to stay in the game, and that's how they vote. Of course, I want my favorites to stay in, too, but I'd like to see if we can lead the AP to the win this year. It's our chance to prove our knowledge of the game, too!

Tre34
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08-17-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tre34 a private message Print Post    
wait are we confirmed yet that it is Kail his vote goes for...i've read previous posts and there is NO CONFIRMATION

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Bon America cannot get through the game if the AP is eliminated. I can clearly see he is at a much bigger risk if Nick stays in the game. In fact we heard Danielle say yesterday if she, nick, or her dad gets the next HOH they should backdoor Eric. Now I've not heard Kail mention nominating or backdooring Eric at all if she gets the next HOH. So going by your thoughts I would assume to keep him safe and knowing of the two nominees who would target him you would want to see him eliminate Nick. OR... do you have a few other favorites and with Nick there it helps the other favorites out. Not so much the AP?

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
From reading all your posts, it sounds like you think Kail won AP. However, when I read last night's LF's I would have thought Nick won AP. Eric was happy coming out of the DR. I guess since he's pushing for a unanimous vote for Nick it could mean he's trying to hide a vote.

I'm just curiuous why everyone thinks Kail won instead of Nick.

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
What it says on the Eligibility Rules is, "6. You must be at least 21 years of age at the time of application." The application deadline for this year was April 13th.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Cricket, I don't think that, but I have a feeling I am in the minority...LOL.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Kattatude, excellent post. I'd sure like to save it to post at times people just aren't getting it. Many want to vote the opposite of what Eric wants because they don't like him, so that's goofing up all of our 'armchair' gameplaying, lol.

Gonzilly
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07-09-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gonzilly a private message Print Post    
Eric is no fool. He knows he can't make it to the end, but it is to his advantage to make it to the jury house to continue to get his weekly stipend. If he pushes to hard for this one then his "team" will gladly sacrifice him this week. If Nick is saved the others may sacrifice him as well.

If he does decide to try and fight for Nick, it is to his advantage to do it last minute because of the decision flipping in the house happens so often.

Hopefully today when he wakes up he will work on developing stronger bonds with people to help him if they do need to have a discussion. Maybe even set Kail up for something to get her in trouble with others.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 6:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Tre I haven't read any confirmation either.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
A big disadvantage for Eric is also how the show is edited merely b/c not all the voters have live feeds, read updates, etc., IMO.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 7:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Eric knows he can't make it to the end? I don't get that. When he has talked to Jess it sure sounds like Eric is creating a pathway to get to the end.