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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 4: America's Player (ARCHIVES): Archive through August 03, 2007 users admin

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Cousin_jake
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07-04-2002

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cousin_jake a private message Print Post    
I'm completely over the "America's Player" thing. If he won't work hard for what we want, screw him! That show edit last night was lame. He only played "devil's advocate" and mentioned voting Kail out because the DR had reamed him a new one for an hour.

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
That clip of him saying he hates Kail also happened in the early hours of Thursday. CBS must have been desperate to try to find a clip of him working against her if it had to hold the completion of the taped package of the live show so long. It's usually turned in a full day early.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
i don't want eric to go this week. i want him in sequester so we get a vote in the final 2.

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
For some reason I thought that they told all the evicted HGs about Eric, except maybe Carol because she was the first out.

I got the feeling Eric was getting a bit caught up in being AP in the house. Maybe BB has been telling him a lot of people have voting and this built up his confidence of the public's support. He may feel that America is rooting for him and therefore is more strongly pushing for his personal agenda in the game...feeling America will back up his wishes. Heck, I'd think being AP is kind of a double-edged sword when you're wanting a chance to win that $500,000.

And on another side note, haven't the other HGs been keeping more of an eye on when Eric goes in the DR? I thought I heard a few discussing it, but don't remember who right now.

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 8:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
All it will take now is for one friendless mouthbreather to send an "Eric does what America tells him to do" banner, and it'll all be over. That stinks.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
"I'm not upset Eric didn't try harder to get rid of Kail. He said on the last show he wanted Nick to go, his alliance wanted Nick to go and said they weren't flipping the vote this time."

Totally disagree. I am done with Eric. He is a triple sneak. He has betrayed everyone. His alliance, his friends, and America. He voted for Kail for two weeks in a row, yet he lead the charge to get both Nick and Mike out. He thinks he is smarter than everyone in the house and everyone watching the show. If he would have campaigned for Kail in stead of Mike, she would have been gone. He has screwed this up.

I will vote to make sure his life is as complicated as possible. He shall suffer for his arrogance.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
he did campaign for kail!

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 8:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
He shall suffer for his arrogance.

Oh my. A little portentous, no?

Besides, what's he gonna do? He has to keep his hand hidden from the rest of the house, so if he senses they're all voting one way, he of course has to pretend he agrees with them. It's the pitfall of AP.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 9:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Do we know what happens to the AP twist if Eric is evicted? America's input will just end?

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
We as the viewers didn't help Eric in voting for him to push to evict Kail. It was clear for a day or two before that others were pushing stronglyg to get Nick up as a replacement. Eric saw this, knowing the LNC was voting as a group.
I beg to differ with those who think Eric isn't working hard. The one time he tries to signal the viewers that it would be in the best interest of the American viewer to vote out Nick this time so as not to get exposed, we let him down and pushed for Kail when those of us watching the feeds and reading the boards, knew there wasy no way Kail was going home. We could have cut him some slack for once. Now everyone is thinking Eric messed up. The problem is that Dick pushes for people to be evicted, then flip flops and then bullies the LNC into voting someone else out and right after every eviction he loses it. It must be extremely difficult for Eric to deal with his directives from us as a result of Dicks seeminglyg schitzophrenic flip flops.

If people think Eric has the advantage, I think that the ones who have the greater advantage in that house are Dick and Danielle, because they are related and immediately go along in their play together. Dick was the biggest pusher of Nick to leave this week, and Mike to leave last week. All the while for a month we've heard him demand that Kail or Jen has to go. Yes Dick is good viewing drama at times, and Kail is like watching paint dry. But if we the viewers want some input, then we need to also support Eric, he's in there trying to play the BB game, but then he has to play on our behalf. To this point he has made all the efforts to do what we ask and I feel its unfair of us to paint him with a bad brush. I don't want him out of there yet. If he's gone, then we all go back to whining about the fact that we have no input. Eric can't also do or complete every beckoning call. Its unrealistic for us to expect him to do it. So let's cut him a bit of slack every so often.

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 9:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
Like our input is so important and he is using it. I understand he has to play strategically to save himself while still being AP, however, he could have started giving the pros for getting rid of Kail and at least planted the seed there. (After all, it was obvious America wanted Kail gone for several weeks so he should have known it would be their choice to evict her this week) But he waited until the last minute, then tried to give the speech about well, I hate Kail, she's deceitful, blah, blah, blah. After this many weeks of AP he should have some idea beforehand what America wants or should I say Who America wants gone. So, he is NOT playing strategically for himself, or us.

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
It was Amber who pushed for Dustin to put up Nick. And I thought Eric was playing for us...not us playing for him. The whole idea of a twist is something different...something interesting. If we vote for everything and everyone he wants us to, then we really don't have much say...then I'd say he is playing us not vice versa.

Allstarmaniac
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07-14-2006

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allstarmaniac a private message Print Post    
When is Eric given the verdict? How could he campaigne for someone when he doesn't know who that someone is. If he campaigned for Kail and then AP turned out to be Nick, he'd look suspicious. I wouldn't want to have to play his game.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
but he knows that we are going to tell him who to campaign to evict so he should just take a hint from Jameka and go mmmmm hmmmmmm until he knows what we want him to do. I still think getting Kail out would have helped his game, we can't help it if the LNC only has one brain.

Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
Eric spent 6 days pushing everyone to get rid of Nick and 5 minutes to get rid of Kail. If he is not going to do what America tells him he should not have agreed to it in the beginning.
I VOTE TO EVICT ERIC)

Freetimefinally
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01-26-2006

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Freetimefinally a private message Print Post    
"If he is not going to do what America tells him he should not have agreed to it in the beginning"

eric did not have a choice if he wanted int he house. If he said no they would of moved onto another person and he would not of gotten in the house knowing of this twist. Eric is out for $500,000 not $10,000 for what seems to be imopossible tasks if not only does he have to get somone nominated but make sure veto is not used on them. How is that to happen if they win the veto.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Is there any indication of who he's been told to get nominated this week?

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
Doesn't matter. It was still his agreement. He could have easily done both so far without issue. He has noone to blame for his situation now but himself. He has played it dumb.

Annatopia
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07-19-2005

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Annatopia a private message Print Post    
(first post of the year - hey everybody!!)

give eric a break. he's got the hardest game to play right now. not only does he have to try and work out a strategy for himself, but now he's got to incorporate america's vote into it. most of his game is anticipation and guessing due to these factors. he can't really committ too wholeheartedly to any one strategy, because our votes could completely throw off what he wants to try and do.

if i were eric, i'd be pretty frustrated right about now. i think he's doing the best he can and i wish him well in the game.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
somebody in another thread or maybe it was this one said that America outed it's alliance. No, somebody who has money to waste outed Eric, probably because their favorite player is in danger.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
To answer a question above, yes, I think the HGs are getting suspicious. They are starting to pay attention when he comes out of the DR. He'll talk about wanting to get someone out (for example, Nick). Then he goes into the DR, comes out, and does a belly flop. Suddenly Eric mentions he hates Kail and wants HER out.

He can't have it both ways. He needs to stop campaigning so hard before he finds out what America wants. THEN he can start to campaign. Right now, his belly flops should really start to worry the others. I think at first they thought he was "thinking things thru" and looking at both sides. Now I think they are starting to get suspicious.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
Eric always has the live vote after the commercial break. They should mix it up. Anyway, I think he has bigger things to worry about this week now that he knows he could go up.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 12:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think that given the circumstances Eric is doing a pretty good job of being America's Player.

America has told him to do some fairly stupid things; the biggest being to try to get Jessica nominated. The second worst was to try to swing the vote back to Kail when his allies had clearly decided that Nick should go and he had specifically asked America to go along with him on that one.

In order for him to be America's Player he has to stay in the house and if America gives him directions to do something that he is convinced will hurt his overall strategy, I think he has the right to limit how much effort he puts into doing it. It's a team effort between him and America.

Otherwise they should have called him "America's Puppet".

Kidsatm
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07-08-2005

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kidsatm a private message Print Post    
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Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Friday, August 03, 2007 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
does anyone know who he was told to nominate?