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Lainee
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07-19-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
For several years I have read on these boards how you all want more input in the house...this year we have it...not much but we have it...and the ones voting AGAINST the house vote here is going to get Eric caught out and we will no longer have a say in the house.

Last night on the show, Eric was practically begging America to see it HIS way for once. In the Diary Room:

"I would LOVE to see Nick go home! Why? He is a FIERCE competitor! Let's send Nick home while we have the chance!"

What else can you say...Eric is asking us to help HIM with the vote this week! In any relationship there has to be give and take. Eric has taken everything we have asked him to do and done it as best he could...last night I think he was asking us to do something for him for a change.

Am off to get ready for work...see ya'll this afternoon! :-)

Jen
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07-27-2003

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
Eric picked up Jess over the shoulder, carried her to bed, tucked her in, and now he's in bed with her. They're not cuddling, but talking in bed.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
I keep waking up, watching feeds, falling asleep. Add me to the disgusted list. I have felt from day one that the only way for the AP to work is if Eric was hired for that role. Based on his listed occupation, and how well he 'acts' and does voice overs and I was even more convinced he was a ringer.

Now I agree he was asking for America to do what HE wanted, cept his "role" is our player, and to do what WE voted. I will never believe that the vote wasn't to get rid of Kail. And if that is the case, seems to me he had tons of opportunities in the times I was awake. He and Jess were alone and talking about it...nothing. He knows Dick/Dani are waffling, perfect opportunity to say "you know I've been thinking, are we sure we are doing the right thing?" Nothing.

Well if the name on his task is Kail I think they should boot Eric instead of Nick. And he seems to be forgetting that a large chunk of the Nick hate in the house stems from his convincing folks that Nick was the off vote last week (with alternate blame thrown on Zach or Jen). I have always felt that is wrong...to have someone in there go down for a BB authorized activity.

To me it all boils down to having a BB production team in America that refuses to enforce ANY rules and they get away w/whatever they want. I'm about one eviction away from tuning out. Maybe I'll watch old episodes of BB UK or something, where folks said there are some interesting people and where BB actually makes them follow rules.

To me this is just one more slap in the face of the fans.

Poppy
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07-21-2006

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Poppy a private message Print Post    
If Eric says someone is a FIERCE competitor one more time, I am just going to spit at my screen (be in the TV or my laptop)

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
*SHRUG* Lurk, I agree he is supposed to be OUR player. But as with any relationship there has to be give and take (quoting C1mag there :-)) and you all want to take and take and make Eric do and do but you don't want to give to Eric. Just keep taking and taking him right out the door.

I relistened to the vote thingy at the end of the show and it specifically says that you can text message your vote up to 10 times, but it doesn't give a vote limit on web voting...just says you can vote up till midnight. So who knows, maybe there are bots out there.

From the clips I have seen, and what I have read here on the boards, it seems that he wasn't the first one to throw out Nicks name, he took it and ran with it. Can't blame him since he is there to also try to win the who shebang for himself.

I said it in another thread several days ago and I will say it here...can't please everyone! Personally, I am trying to keep him in there even longer. Can't comment on what BB does BEHIND the scenes since I am NOT there to see it.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Dick and Dani just said they are not going to split the votes...they are voting with the group :-).

Jen
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07-27-2003

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
Jess has a brother in Iraq???? I had no idea.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Lainee, TPTB at BB/CBS came up with the concept of us having 'our player.' No where in the promotions or the rules did I read anything about give and take, as it suits him. I read and heard that he was there to do what WE want.

So if 'we' voted that Kail should go, then his job, like it or not, was to do all he could to try to make that happen, not ignore the task, Forget about what I want or don't want...the BB producers came up with this twist, they made the rules which didn't allow for his not following them. So I still say if Kail is the person voted for, then he should be tossed out for blatently failing to do his job come the eviction!

In past years many posters have said "don't hate the player, hate the game." Well this time, "don't hate the outcome, hate the rules." I just want him to do what they promoted his job to be. He agreed to those terms, is being payed for those tasks, and according to the rules and to the interview with production, he MUST do what we vote. Not much room for give or take there IMHO!

And Klaw, that is part of why I'll be so upset if Eric didn't do his job...cause clearly this week it could have would have changed the vote. And if Nick goes, I have a hard time envisioning a BB which will interest me to watch much more. Plus I think when Nick finds out it was Eric who did that vote he got blamed for, in a BB sanctioned role, I think he will have a very legitmate complaint!

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 3:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Now I can see where Jen would have a complaint...but with Nick, it's all part of the game. Expect the unexpected...to me that includes ALL twists too and anything that might come with those twists. I might be wrong, but in the youtube videos I saw, it wasn't Eric that threw Nick's name out there to be put up when Jameka used the Veto also. Eric just ran with it.

Gotta run...time to head out the door for work. See ya this afternoon...(((Lurk))) I do understand where you are coming from, but please try to see things from my perspective also. I have heard complaints on the board (these boards since I don't go anywhere else) about the viewers not having any input...now that we do, people aren't happy. I wasn't missing anything from BB 1 and 2 since I have never seen them...so was happy with the format before. I like this too. *shrug*

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
Lurk, I totally agree. I fought on that side of the debate last night. It's illogical to want to keep someone in the house as AP who does not perform as America wants. If it is Kail and he did not go all out balls to try to get Kail evited then I hope Eric is out next.

It's no fun playing with someone who is in my opinion, not playing for Amrica but for himself.

So later down the line if America sees him playing a really stupid move and its against America's vote, will everyone think that is okay.

I think the arguement is that it's okay now because it's seen as a good move to get Nick out because Dick is not liked.

I have heard the saying, a vote for Nick is a vote for Dick.

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
But your input is meaningless if Eric doesn't do what you say. I can not see the logic in that.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
I'm going down for a couple more hours sleep lol...have an awesome day Lainee! And while I still respectfully see it totally differently, I am sincerely happy you are enjoying it (and wish I was, cause I miss my BB addiction big time!). Have a great one! See you and all later!

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Lurk, I may have written it wrong, but what I was trying to say is I don't know why people are assuming Eric is not doing his job when we don't even know for sure that Kail was AC.

Also, I no longer agree with the AP twist. It has been fun watching Eric, but in instances like this, I do not think it's fair for Eric or the viewers.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Dfng...sorry I missed your posts last nite! Know what I would love to see...FCC game show rules, regs, laws. This show IS governed by certain laws and I would love to see them in black and white. I find it so hard to believe they are meeting them all.

And I'm taking a harder line w/Eric. To me if the name on the paper is Kail, I feel he should be removed from the house on Thursday for failing to attempt his task per his job. And if I'm right and he is a hired CBS employee, then I would think if this was found out it would be a major scandal and possibly many fines.

I should shoot an email to a producer I know at one one of the um major entertaiment shows that are on tonight ;). I know that they've had stories squashed in the past several years ago, but they were much more minor than this.

Regardless of all that, I can't even imgaine how AG and those in production could defend the AP twist if he isn't doing what they publicized he would do, especially since some folk have been paying for those votes! While some folks feel the Dick situation is far worse (and I do understand their viewpoint), from a legal one I think this one could be a MUCH bigger mess! Now off to close my eyes or it will be too late to and not sure I can go the rest of the day w/out a bit more down time!

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
ok just one more lol...Klaw got it now. :-) But see why I've been saying all along that I feel Eric MUST be a plant or it wouldn't IMHO be fair to him. But if he is a hired flunky and is job is to earn what he can via the tasks (and likely a bonus along with the $750 per week), then it's fair. I think it's only unfair to the fans if he doesn't do what we vote, as so many seem to feel is happening now (but we'll know on Thursday). Truthfully I don't think it's been that much fun to watch, but I don't enjoy destruction of property or watching others take the blame for his actions. This week was the first time it really would/could have had a major impact on the game, and if he isn't doing it because it's not what he wants, then that is VERY wrong IMHO.

I will leave on one major personal point...Why can't Jessica talk like this to others, not that Holly voice that is like nails on a chaulkboard lolol.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
It's no fun playing with someone who is in my opinion, not playing for Amrica but for himself.

That's why I do not think it's fair. Eric is the one who stands to gain $500,000 - he should be playing for himself. AP was a bad decision from the get go, IMO.

I think the arguement is that it's okay now because it's seen as a good move to get Nick out because Dick is not liked.

The same argument could be made for Dick fans . Those who like Dick want Kail gone and those who don't want Nick gone. It was fun until our personal preferences became involved. Do you see what I mean?

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Lurk, I understand where you are coming from and agree with you. IMO, CBS made a boo boo on this :-).

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
Klaw, I see where you are going but I'm not a Dick fan. Actually, I am not a fan of anyone yet. But I do have my dislikes and unfortunately, those people are not on the block.

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
Off to work, have fun watching the feeds!

Tre34
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08-17-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 5:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tre34 a private message Print Post    
What did America end up with Nick out (fingers crossed) or Kail? DO we confirmation?

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 5:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
Daniele and Dick are so deluded talking about how no one would talk to Kail in sequester. They have no idea how disliked they are.

Fellow eastcoasters, isn't it fun to awaken and find hamsters up and about?

Luvbbplayers
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07-14-2006

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 5:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Luvbbplayers a private message Print Post    
Maybe Eric is waiting til today to work his magic

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 5:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
America is supposed to be the voice of America. If he is not going to play his role, then I say he should go.

Yes relationships are give and take...but this is not a relationship. Eric is supposed to be America;s voice.

While he may have a handicap in the game because he must hide and deceive a bit more..he also has a huge advantage. America see what he doesn't see. He gets outside information. He gets to be clued in on the bigger picture...So for those of you that want a give and take in this non-relationship, that is your give .. we give him information!!

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 5:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
Hmmm...Dick and Dani argue about whether or not she watched season four. She says she only saw the last two episodes, and he says they watched it together on DVD but maybe it was an abbreviated version.

Jennyrom
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07-24-2005

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 5:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jennyrom a private message Print Post    
If Big Brother is following the rules, then why did they let Daniele on the show when the rules clearly state you must be 21 years old?