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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:47 am
How long before people actually realized ED/D working together? I mean I remember Jen being one of the first to actually say it to someone else.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:47 am
We're agreeing a lot today Cricket! Yes, Jen bungled that meeting with Dick and Dani by saying too much. I think the peace treaty made her let her guard down; I was disappointed to see her do that.
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Jucylucy
Member
08-23-2005
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:49 am
Are they on inside lock down because of another banner plane?
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:50 am
Tres, she was actually getting ready to walk out the door when she mentioned the thing with Eric...lol. I thought she was going to leave w/o saying anything about what she knows and then bam. I was disappointed too.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:50 am
Neosporen, my gut feeling is that Zach is looking at the end game as well as his next moves. For now he's aligned with D&D, but things will shift as people leave. He's considering what's to come, which I think is wise for him. I could be entirely wrong; it's just my opinion.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:52 am
Have you noticed that everytime Jen is on the block Dick rants at her so she will fight for the POV? He even stepped down to give it to her to send Mike home. I think she and Dick have a mutual respect for game play that some of you don't see.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:52 am
Klaw, I was saying to my monitor: Jen, leave the room NOW. Did you do the same? LOL
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:52 am
Don't they have to go to HOH when there is a banner?
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Doublethink
Member
08-23-2006
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:52 am
Panda - I know. Dustin said he didn't know until this week D&D were a solid alliance. What was he thinking?
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:53 am
Yes I did, Tres...lol. Then I was like WHAT?!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:56 am
I'm hoping Zach or Jen get hoh and Dustin and eric (If he someho manages to stay) go up with Amber being the replacement Jen really hates Dick, and she really believes her and Daniele can be friends if Dick is gone. I think there is no chance she does not put Dick up if she wins HOH.
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Neosporen
Member
08-18-2005
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:57 am
yea, but the "5" want Ed out..she said before, WHY do their work for them?
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Neosporen
Member
08-18-2005
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:58 am
Plus Putting up Ed will kill her chance to work with Dani
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:58 am
Lol, Tresbien. I usually agree with most of your posts. Marksman, I thought I read if Jen got HOH she'd put Dick/Dustin up. She's silly not to put D/D up. Dani is using her and if the numbers get lower, Dani would still pick Jess over Jen any day of the week.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:59 am
No it won't Neosporen. Not in Jen's mind. She thinks it will make Dani closer to her. If Dani doesn't have anyone else in the house, she will be forced to work with Jen whether Jen puts Dick up or not. Dani knows it would be a blessing in disguise if Dick left.
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:59 am
Ed's always been friendly with him.. That is one thing that bothers me about Zach. ED and Daniele have always been openly hostile to Zach. They are the only ones. Other people might ignore him, but they have always verbally abused him to his face. Apparently Zach beleives because they talk to him even if they were mean about it, they are nicer then if people just shun him completely. Something tells me Zach has been victimized before in his life. Up until the last few days, any time Zach would speak to Daniele she would tell him to shut up. And Dick still makes fun of him constantly. I fell a bit bad for Zach in his position. I know he appreciates them counting on him now, but nobody has been worse to him the first 4 weeks then Dick and Daniele.
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Neosporen
Member
08-18-2005
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:02 pm
No way Cricket..Jen SEE'S Dani is still upset and holding a grudge for Nick, she knows the same would happen for her dad
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:02 pm
Plus Putting up Ed will kill her chance to work with Dani Jen does not believe that at all. Jen believes the only thing keeping them from being BFF is Dick. She really hates dick. She will definitely want to get Dick out. Jen is masterminding a plan to get all the guys out of the house. Watch her. She is by far the best liar and manipulator in the house, she makes Eric, Dick and Dustin look like little kids. If she could figure out a way to save Kail this week and get rid of Eric she would. But she can't. She is smart enough to know (unlike Dick and Daniele) not to push too hard for something that is not going to happen. Jen would be happy with the final 5 being Jen, Daniele, Jameka, Jessica, and Amber.
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Bbpeach
Member
07-07-2005
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:07 pm
I think Jen is smart enough to know that she needs someone else to put ED up, and would happily vote him out. But if she puts him up, then she has a harder chance of Dani working with her. I don't think she'll put him up.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:08 pm
Dick and Daniele have always been openly hostile to Zach. They are the only ones. When and where have you seen that? Danielle as well as every other female in that house has villified Zach. Dick has always sat with him had a beer and talked. Only once did Dick get angry with Zach and that was when he approached him about the MRA, and even then he didn't verbally abuse him. Dick makes fun of Zach many times in a fun way when they are sitting and talking or playing a game. Guys do that. Dani saying "shut up" is not being abusive. She must have said that 200 times to Nick. Dustin on the other hand does verbally abuse Zach. He treats him like his <77> Jameke treats him like a nobody, and even says he is. The other two girls and Eric just ignore him and make nasty comments about him behind his back.
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Doublethink
Member
08-23-2006
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:08 pm
Mark - that's my take on Jen's actions. I don't think she is the best liar, because I think everything she is saying is based on truths. But I do think she is very good at telling a version of the truth that suits the audience. And I do think she wants an all girls alliance, but the girls don't like her so I'm not sure it's going to work.
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:10 pm
He insults him and ridicules him to his face constantly. Daniele ALWAYS tells him to shut up whenever he says anything. They may have been the only ones to talk to him but they were always amazingly rude about it. How is telling someone anytime they talk to you to shut up as not being abusive? Like I said, ignoring someone is one thing, talking to them for the soul purpose of ridiculing them and belittling them is something else, and Dick and Daniele have done it for the entire season.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:13 pm
He insults him and ridicules him to his face constantly. Perhaps you could give some examples, because I'm not seeing and I'm rarely away from these feeds, since I'm disabled right now. I know it's not true and it's not fair to make stuff up because you don't like someone.
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:13 pm
Doublethink, She told Jameka and Amber that her and Eric have been in a super secret alliance the whole time and they have weekly meetings where they lay everything out. She lies like a massive area rug. She is very good at it though, because she picks her targets carefully. She always targets those who are the most gullible and susceptible. If she gets Dick out of the house, she will have those 4 other women under her thumb. They all believe her, no matter what she says. Daniele is probably the most resistant now, but she will fold once her dad is gone. It doesn't matter if the girls don't like her. They all believe her. And they don't believe ANY of the guys. She is responsible for essentially ALL of that.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:16 pm
I've seen Eric laying out next to Jen many times, how do we know if what she is saying isn't true. There is a lot of vortex on these feeds, so don't think we know each and every single conversation that goes on in there.
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