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Biginjapan
Member
07-23-2005
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 11:52 am
Yea what has Jen done? I don't get the Jen hate. She seems like a nice person to me.
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 11:55 am
If she lied about Nick kissing her. The rest? You've got to be kidding me.
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Ch3j0r
Member
07-21-2005
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 11:56 am
I seem to recall someone in the house saying that it was true that Nick was being flirtatious with Jen the first week (that we never saw on feeds nor on TV). I even think Nick copped up to the fact that he was going to flirt with everyone. Soooo it's Nick's word (which we know isn't good) against Jen (who has been honest from what I've seen).
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Llwynn
Member
07-19-2003
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 11:57 am
I don't think we really know anything about how Jen interacts with the people who are important to her. These people do not matter to her so maybe when they are treating her badly or insulting her, she just shuts down and turns them off. Not everyone is personally offended when someone who means nothing to them does/does not like them. I think Jen would be a fun friend to have and is probably a good nanny. She has a good attitude and makes the best out of bad situations, which probably relates very well to caring for children.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:03 pm
The nanny job might be her main source of income, and the modeling might be a sideline for her (nannies tend to have a bit more flexibility in their schedules I hear). I mean if the Vanna White job is for real (there's no reason it isn't), you also would think she has to have some solid references to get that type of gig.....
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Guinevere
Member
03-15-2001
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:04 pm
Yeah, the lying about kissing Nick is the only thing I see as even a remotely big deal. The other stuff - I can't say how much of it is game and how much of it is the real Jen. As for talking about not feeling anything - is that a direct quote or a paraphrase? I only recall the time she rather hilariously commented in the DR about not being good at feeling sympathy (I'm paraphrasing - she said she felt "something" and seemed perplexed - it was so funny!). I don't think there was enough context to really draw a lot of conclusions from that snippet. I know she also said that she sometimes forgot that other people weren't her (also funny, given her self-absorbtion), but on understanding her better, I just took that to mean that she didn't relate to highly emotional people. Jen and Amber are at opposite ends of the spectrum in that regard. I'd so rather be Jen, handling everything that comes at her with aplomb, than Amber, who cries when reminded that the current day ends in a "y". I think it's way too easy and dangerous to do armchair diagnosis on reality tv personalities. That said, if anyone has Aspergers in that house, it's Zach. From the figures I've seen, it's much more common (3 to 4 times more common) in boys than girls, anyway.
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Chere
Member
08-10-2005
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:11 pm
For all we know Jen may be a very responsible and loving nanny. The fact that Jen mentioned her employer by name leads me to believe that her employer signed the release form for Jen to talk about her in the house. If Jen was such a horrible uncaring nanny than I doubt her employer would have supported Jen by signing the release form. [/assumption] I commend Jen for not giving in to her feelings and staying in game mode, especially when Dick goes after her the way he does. I think if Jen survives a few more evictions and as the number of hgs decrease we will start to see the real Jen as she starts to relax and not feel like she’s on the defensive 24/7.
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Celticlass
Member
09-10-2005
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:24 pm
Some of you are misinformed about Asperger's (my DD is an Aspie). Bill Gates, Steven Spielburg, Bill Murray are all Aspies. Andy Warhol, Andy Kaufman, Einstein, Jefferson, Edison...all believed to be Aspies. My DD is heading off to college this fall, living on campus. Socially kinda "weird" but otherwise very functional and quite capable. Literally brilliant. I brought up the Asperger's thing because I see some things in Jen's eyes, expressions, interractions and movement that reminds me of my daughter. BTW...my daughter used to watch the Weather Channel all the time!! 
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:31 pm
i don't see any autism or aspergers in jen. there are many reason why a person would not feel empathy or emotions. diagnosing any ASD takes a multitude of tests by psychologists and often neurologists. it's wrong to just say someone has it by a tv show. unless jen or her mother state so, i think it's not good to make assumptions.
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Msstas1
Member
08-26-2005
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:38 pm
IMHO and because I have been an aide in a class with a child who has Asperger's, the symptoms and peculiarities are so wide and varied it easy to label anyone who acts like an extreme spoiled brat as having the syndrome.
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Headache
Member
05-25-2006
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:41 pm
Isnt Jen suppose to have been trained by Chill Town? Remember how Will would act "emotionless" at times? He always was looking in the mirror, always acting as if it were "just a game". Always made sure everyone knew he was in to himself. If these people don't watch it, she is gonna win this game. The only thing she has done that Will has not is win HOH and she even pretty much pulled that off by annoying everyone.
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Sidecar
Member
07-23-2007
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 12:46 pm
Headache- i was thinking the same thing. I think that strategy is working
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 1:19 pm
Jen is not a top model. She may look nice with appropriate makeup and lighting, but a large portion of her work is cheesecake. Not top model. She also doesn't have Aspergers or any other armchair diagnosis. She herself has admitted her mother is the same way -- strangely apathetic. Her mother said she got good grades in high school. As far as Nick, Jen went on a vendetta as soon as it became obvious Nick was into Daniele. And the little lie about Nick kissing her just added fuel to the fire that she started.
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Archiecat
Member
08-16-2006
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 1:31 pm
....no "strangely apathetic" nannies for my chillun, please!!
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Hotfudge
Member
07-03-2005
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 2:15 pm
I don't believe Nick actually kissed or tried to kiss her. Don't you think they would have showed us that shot about 10 times by now if it had? Jen is growing on me. I can't help but cheer for the under dog.
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 2:34 pm
Dani calling Jen a manipulator and a liar was a little harsh and a lot not true. One lie about Nick trying to kiss her is the extent of her sins as far as I have seen. Jen has taken a huge amount of bad mouthing and has risen above it where Daniele has whined and played the "poor baby" card way to often.
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Junerose
Member
07-20-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 5:46 am
The first show, when everyone was telling about themselves, Jen called herself an "Estate Manager" and Nanny. Jen actually works for Vanna's ex-husband George. She has said that on many occasions. She takes care of his household by paying the bills, grocery shopping, and taking care of the kids.
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Fluffybbw1
Member
07-12-2007
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 6:27 am
I think Dick's anger toward Jen started with her waking him one morning when she walked into the bedroom and started talking. As for the Nick thing in the early stuff on the show and in the feeds it really looked like Nick walked into the house with the plan to get romantically involved with someone, he didn't care who, Joe, he was in bed with Amber before Dani, told Jameka her smile was killing him, etc. I may be wrong but I kind of got the idea that was his gameplan.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 6:40 am
Can it be that she is just playing the role of the self-absorbed, unfeeling person? Again just as I've said about all the hgs, just because a viewer doesn't like someones' game play doesn't mean the player has some kind of abnormalcy. Jen has made a couple of comments that have gotten her in trouble. One, probably the most damning was implying that Dick wanted to "touch" her planting the seed that he was a "perv". The next problem was "kissing and telling" or not getting kissed and putting Nick into the position of having to "get in her face".. I just think it's a game that backfired on her.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 6:42 am
I did not realize what a flirt Nick was.It appears that I wrong in assuming that Jen was lying about the kiss. And thanks Junerose,I had not read at all that Jen works for Vanna's ex.
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Fluffybbw1
Member
07-12-2007
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 6:56 am
Marameko I don't think your wrong necessarily about Jen and the kiss. I think she may have made that up because she was trying to save face, no pun intended, because I think she went into the house intending to be the "pretty" one and Nick hadn't gotten to her yet. So she said he had tried something with her after he had started his relationship with Dani to make people think that she was the one that had rebuffed him and that Dani was his second choice. I think Earthmother's right I keep forgetting alot of these people are in the house playing a "role" they chose for themselves or was already picked for them.
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