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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 4: Why this backdooring is not gonna work: Archive through August 04, 2007 users admin

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Spunky
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10-08-2001

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
First of all I am stunned that neither Dick nor Daniele still don't know that Jessica spilled the beans and Eric knows he's the target.
No one leaked this info to them... amazing!!

I shouldn't be this mean... but I can't wait for Dick to discover that his 'confidential info' to Jessica was made quite public by her... will he stop loving her? Duh?

But at this point, with nominations alredy made (had Daniele only knew about this she would have put up Jessica and Jameka, the only two who could be liked more than Eric and assure this backdooring would have worked).

Unfortunately, even if Jen wins POV and Eric goes up, everyone one is already alerted to thwart Daniele's attempt and vote Kail out instead.

If Kail removes herself, Jen would be going home and Eric will stay. If both Kail and Jen are on the block.... and here is the crux of the matter which Daniele should be aware of... they think Dick and Daniele want Jen out before Kail and Eric has everyone convinced to vote opposite of their wishes.
The only thing that maybe Eric still doesn't know is that D/D believe Jen more honest than Kail and may be happy to see Kail gone.

Either way, Eric stays and you can still have fun with America's Player.

Pennykandy
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08-19-2005

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 7:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pennykandy a private message Print Post    
I agree, if they really wanted Eric gone, they should have put up 2 of the LNC...the way it stands, I don't think there is anyway they will have the votes to evict Eric. They *might* have Dick, Zach and either Jen or Kail. But I don't see ANY of the LNC voting to evict Eric.

They definately didn't think this through enough. Hopefully they will realize this before POV ceremony and abort the plan, then make a deal with Jen and Zach for the remainder of the game, and hope one of them gets HOH next week.

Onlymytulips
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07-17-2005

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 7:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlymytulips a private message Print Post    
I agree that Eric will stay put this week.
Dick purposely told Jessica about the backdoor, knowing she would tell Eric, giving him a chance to either win veto or work on Danielle. Maybe, Dick sees Jessica/Eric as a possible team til the end? Is he that smart to think ahead?

I seriously think none of the houseguests want Jen to leave. She takes the stuff Dick dishes out and they are left alone. He needs some sort of outlet, and they do not want to be the next ventee. And I see Kail going this week unless she wins veto.

Mictay
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09-29-2006

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 7:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mictay a private message Print Post    
If ED finds out that Jessica told Eric everything do you think he'll go off on her like he does to Jen?I hope not,I don't think she could take it like Jen does.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 8:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Someone said that maybe Dick did that on purpose, (telling Jessica) to see if she leaked the info to Eric. However, it seems a bit strange that he's not testing the waters... at least I don't see them showing any suspicion that Eric knows is targeted.

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 8:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
Dick and Dani were so pleased with themselves for figuring everything out that Dani did not look far enough ahead. The assumed they had Jessica completely, giving them 4 votes against Eric(zach,dick,jen,Jess). If only 6 were voting they would be in good shape and have more control but not with a majority vote working. I am hoping they don't figure this out so that if Dani gets POV she will use it on Jen. Unfortunately there are too many days until the POV meeting and none of them can keep their mouths shut for that long.

Neosporen
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08-18-2005

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neosporen a private message Print Post    
Jessica is Doubting Eric again, at least she was ealier.. she got up to pee and caught him and amber talking in the bathroom... she now thinks they knew each other before comming in and maybe a team..
She was really annoyed with Eric trying to say it wasn't true and blah, blah.. he eventually went ot get in another bed....

it isn't so really far fetched to think he will go.. they just need ONE vote from the other side. And the other LNC's know Eric will have to go eventually anyway.. might not be so hard to turn one as people think...

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
I can't belive the other HG's don't see how paranoid he is. He's so freakin nervous he couldn't even eat yet.

I WANT HIM GONE!!

Danielle has got this game PINNED!!!

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
They weren't idiots to be the only ones to catch onto Eric. They know something is up with him, and none of the others seem to have seen it, or put 2 and 2 together.

Lucas
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07-01-2005

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lucas a private message Print Post    
Eric has the votes to stay today, but he has been acting paranoid and eratic with the thought of being on the block. His core group is already quesioning him. If he actually gets on the block, I would guess this behavior will increase, and I say he could easily push himself out the door.

Neosporen
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08-18-2005

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neosporen a private message Print Post    
Will be interesting to See Jessicas Convo's today after she Caught him and Amber having that secret meeting in the bathroom....

Longbeachbbfan
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08-17-2005

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Longbeachbbfan a private message Print Post    
<55> She is the one that figured it out, not Dick. She's not a good player though. Telling Jessica of the plan was not strategic. And D/D are the only ones that knew for sure that D/D didn't vote for Nick to leave. I can understand the others not putting it together as easily as Dani. Eric IS convincing and knows this game.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
Yeah the only way they could have made it work was to put up two people from the group. Of course they expose themselves big time and likely don't have the same odds in the POV. Right now they think they are being sneaky and going to backdoor Eric as a surprise and nobody will know about it.

Why on earth Dick thought Jessica would not tell Eric is beyond me. I think he thought Jessica is like his daughter and she did not tell Nick he was getting backdoored.

Neosporen
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08-18-2005

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neosporen a private message Print Post    
maybe the plan was to tell Jessica KNOWING she would tell Eric and he would go into Paranoia mode as he has...then they can say to the others..look how paranoid he is.. he is hiding something..

Longbeachbbfan
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08-17-2005

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Longbeachbbfan a private message Print Post    
But there was no discussion regarding Eric's paranoia, was there? What was the discussion just prior to Dick telling Jessica? What was their logic telling only her?

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
Dick and dani think Jessica is the only one they can trust 100%(and told her that). WHy, I am not sure since she and Eric are such good pals. I think DIck is driving that line of thinking. He really likes Jesica. He calls her his ray of sunshine.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Someone said that maybe Dick did that on purpose, (telling Jessica) to see if she leaked the info to Eric. However, it seems a bit strange that he's not testing the waters... at least I don't see them showing any suspicion that Eric knows is targeted.

Morning, Spunky. I don't think Dick was testing Jessica. He completely trusts her and next to Daniele, she's his favorite person in the house. He still thinks he's running the LNC. It was so funny to hear the others say Dick/Daniele were 6 & 7 in the LNC.

Missy, for some reason Daniele had no problems trusting Jessica as well. That could be because she's been in the bedroom with Nick a lot and hasn't really seen who hangs with who.

Longbeachbbfan
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08-17-2005

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Longbeachbbfan a private message Print Post    
And if Dani's head was in the game all this time she would have seen that Jessica and Eric were such good pals. It might be too late for her, but it's her own doing.

Neosporen
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08-18-2005

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neosporen a private message Print Post    
I still say it was a smart move... and IS working.. Jessica is questioning EVERYTHING she see's about Eric now...And don't think Amber, Jameka and Dustin are not also, in their mind, thinking he PROBABLY IS the one....just cause they haven't out right discussed it yet, doesn't mean that seed is not there

Nobby
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08-05-2005

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nobby a private message Print Post    
If you're only watching the live feeds and not the Showtime three hours of prime hamster time every night, you might be missing some of the strategy--I really don't know. Dick has said that Jessica is a very smart girl--not the little ditz role that she's chosen to fill. And Dick prides himself in telling everyone the truth--about how much he hates Jen, how he feels about religion even if it alienates the religious members of the house. If he feels that the consensus of the house is to backdoor someone, even Eric, I wouldn't be surprised if he tells that person--the house is continuing to do this "voting by consensus" bs that, IMHO, really degrades the game. That's why Dick said that he didn't want to have any more of these early in the week meetings to decide who's going home--meet a night or two before the actual vote and determine who's going home then.

Longbeachbbfan
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08-17-2005

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Longbeachbbfan a private message Print Post    
My question is, if you were part of the LNC, would voting out Eric be strategic? I say "yes". They would be evicting a much better player than Kail or Jen.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
However, it also breaks the LNC wide open, thus Kail and Jen will get farther in the game than the LNC. No matter what happens today, D/D are now the major targets of the game, because they acted emotionally to Nick leaving and the banner.

Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
I think they are making the same mistake everyone does every freaking year. They start trimming off the people of their own alliance before they actually complete the goal they have set of knocking the others that are not close to them off. Paranoia will destroy ya.

I mean come on....Jen, as much as I love seeing her still there, should have been gone with Kale week 2 and 3.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
I'm all for the LNC being broken up RIGHT NOW!!!
I'm tired of that group.

D/D aren't idiots they know they are HUGE targets, Dani told her dad he HAS to win HOH next or one of them is gone. Even Jen told Dani.

Jen I think really wants to work with Dani but Dick's gotta go!

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
They have been the major targets.
All this has done is show peoples true colors, they even have Jen and kail thinking.
And if they would throw Dustin up instead of Eric I think both Jameka and Amber would vote him out.