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Suggestions the next AP

The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 4: Suggestions the next AP users admin

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Northwestblonde
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09-01-2005

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 4:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Northwestblonde a private message Print Post    
Since there is so much discussion on how Eric is playing the game for America, I thought it would be nice to start a thread that BB might read for suggestions on how to improve AP for next season.

Here's my opinion:
I like the idea of an actual player in the house. However, I would LOVE to see AP as someone who cannot be voted out, but has the ability to vote the way America chooses and all the players knowing full well that WE are watching and have a voice to screw up whatever plot they might want to hatch.

Carochar
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07-25-2005

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 4:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carochar a private message Print Post    
Um ... I don't think they'll have another AP. Wouldn't everyone be looking for who it is the first day? Somehow they'll have to "top" this twist next year. Just MHO.

Northwestblonde
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09-01-2005

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 4:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Northwestblonde a private message Print Post    
Not necessarily...besides there is a lot more interest in these shows when the public can have some say in what goes on. BB has done this in the past and I think they could continue the "twist" idea by having someone that simply couldn't be voted out but had a say in what went on...truly a Big Brother scenario knowing America is always watching, but also has a say.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Since the banners are ruining the twist, I figure that there won't be another AP.......and there will be no more input allowed from the viewers.

Unfortunately, I think that would be the right decision. If you give a kid a baseball and he uses it to break your window on purpose, you wouldn't give him another one.

Northwestblonde
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09-01-2005

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Northwestblonde a private message Print Post    
There were banners in the first BB with America voting throughout, so that argument doesn't really hold water.

The problem with the producers at BB is they don't seem to have much creative talent to help in the implementation of really great "twists".

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 5:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"There were banners in the first BB with America voting throughout, so that argument doesn't really hold water."

USA's BB1 format no longer exists. The BB we watch today is TOTALLY different than BB1.

There was no AP twist in BB1.
There was no HOH in BB1.
There were no POV comps in BB1.
There was no discussion of nominations allowed in BB1.
There were no alliances, in BB1.
There was no voting by the HG in BB1

This thread is called Suggestions the next AP. That's what I'm talking about....the banners ruined the AP twist this year. They won't do the AP twist again.

Comparing BB1 to the last 7 seasons of BB is what doesn't hold water.........it's like comparing checkers to chess.

Amac
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09-07-2001

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 5:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Amac a private message Print Post    
I agree that the America's Player twist is a one-time thing. Eric's trouble all along is that he has had to play two games at once...... his own game and America's game. As we've seen, the two seldom coincide. That's why he's in trouble now and why he's targeted for eviction. Give Eric credit for carrying the ball as far as he has but that ball has been a burden twice as heavy as any the other houseguests have had to carry.

Mr_furd
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08-01-2007

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 5:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mr_furd a private message Print Post    
The problem is that anyone going into the next big brother is likely to assume that there may be another AP.

Therefore if there is going to be another, it needs to be known. The AP needs to be a nonperson, not anyone in the house.

After the POV then America votes, and the one that receives the most votes from America will get one vote to evict.

This way no one in the house will know how America is voting, and it will be fair to those in the house, as far as each playing their own game.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"Therefore if there is going to be another, it needs to be known. The AP needs to be a nonperson, not anyone in the house."

I thought of that, but BB will never do it. I even thought that they could have some kind of dorky robot with a TV screen for a face and it would cast it's vote right in front of everyone! :-)

The problem is- if there is another AP next year (whether or not it's a real person/HG), all the HG will know that their "behind-closed-doors" strategy and behavior will become a factor in their game.

For example - As it stands now, Dani and Dick strategize alone in the HOH room. If they knew there was a vote coming from the viewers, it would be like them knowing that another random HG could hear everything they say. They would certainly curtail a lot of what they say and how they say it if they knew one of the "votes" was watching them 24/7.

BB wouldn't allow that because they don't want the HG to cut back on their DRAMA.

Beffylou
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04-21-2005

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 7:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beffylou a private message Print Post    
its the same way they can't do the twin twist again. you look for it next time. once its been done .. you don't do it again.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
or you wait a few years to do it again....I think they could do twins next year and no one would suspect it

Saguaro
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06-21-2005

Monday, August 06, 2007 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saguaro a private message Print Post    
Another option would be to have a random America's Player. All the hg know that any week one of them could be America's Player, but nobody is allowed to discuss when or if they have been American's Player.

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
BB could tell all the HG's they are America's players.Give each a weird task every week but only let one of them vote for America each week.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
I know Alison thinks she has come up with something new using America's Player, but it has been done on other shows. they call it the BB Mole. the Mole does stuff that BB tells them to do (sort of the same as us telling him what to do) and it never has worked out for the player, they always end up evicted and not trusted.

Biginjapan
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07-23-2005

Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biginjapan a private message Print Post    
forget my idea.

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
They could just have one vote from America. Have the regular houseguests, but America always gets THEIR vote. So on eviction night Fred and Wilma are up for eviction. Tied at 4-4, but WAIT, America casts their vote. Who will it be for? Would drive the hgs crazy, but then they might act too nice, and that's NO fun!! lol

Kittyab
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07-16-2005

Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
I think AP would be better if we directed more of his moves. Eric was playing his own game as well as AP and it got screwed up thats why the banner was sent.

Agirlcalledbob
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08-12-2005

Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Agirlcalledbob a private message Print Post    
I think they should do the twin twist and the AP twist in one season. And for good measure any other twist that I can't think of right now. It would be sooo funny to have everyone think they are the "secret" in the BBH.

After all the three enemies twist is really nothing but an expanded boy/girl twist from a few seasons ago.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
At the rate this show is going, I would be surprised if there is another AP or if there even will be a BB9. JMO.

Dakota
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12-21-2003

Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dakota a private message Print Post    
I think America should be able to vote to nullify one houseguests vote - every week. Houseguests would not know which one of their votes would not count or would be reversed until they went in to vote. The houseguest would never be sure of the vote results in close weeks and would make it harder for all houseguests to scheme and plan.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
They should throw in one or two immunity competitions sometime during the season....and the HG shouldn't know when they will happen until BB tells them to get ready for the comp. They should do this on Fridays, right before the nomination ceremony.....and only BB would know which Fridays they will be.

Northwestblonde
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09-01-2005

Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Northwestblonde a private message Print Post    
You know what I would love to see is something from before the season even begins. CBS did a rather lame version of this with the All-Stars, but what I would like it to have a group of 20 contestants that we see videos of in a staged setting where they don't know they're being filmed to see how they interact with each other during the casting process. Then we choose which 12 houseguests we'd like to see in the house. From then on the houseguest could have some control like nominees, but we have the option to change or not change one nominee. The reason I say this is that I'm tired of the backdooring scenario and could also go a long way to breaking up alliances that tend to start way too early in the game.