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Rbk10
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08-12-2005

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rbk10 a private message Print Post    
did A.P told eric to eviced which one?

Chy
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07-19-2003

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 1:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Seattlemom, why do you think they would spin to let Joe stay?
I should think that BB would want to keep Dick in as well. The Daddy daughter saga is not played out yet.

In fact, I was surprised they didn't just tell Dani the twist with the Veto winner is that, she'll have to be hand-cuffed with the plasma tv winner.

Jan
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 1:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jan a private message Print Post    
Rbk10, it seems the diary room told Eric last night (well about 1Am this AM BB time) and after that he seemed to imply to Dick he would be voting to save ED

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 3:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
he was sitting WITH dick at the time.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Well the alliance of 6 looks to have dwindled to 3. So will it matter?

Mrsmel
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07-04-2007

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 5:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mrsmel a private message Print Post    
Anyone notice that Eric is never on the feed plotting? Yesterday he was in every one, todays none. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 5:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Eric doesn't need to plot because WE are plotting FOR him!:-)

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 6:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
In fact plotting would make things worse for him, because he commits to something he can't go through with (because our vote differs) he will put more of a target on his back. Better to stay non-committal.

Mrsmel
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07-04-2007

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mrsmel a private message Print Post    
But if he doesn't he won't complete the task. Last week all he had to do was vote. This week it says "Which one of the two nominees do you want Eric to get evicted from the Big Brother House? I would think he would have to rally some votes to complete this task. They haven't been showing him talking to anybody today. Maybe they are saving it for showtime.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 7:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"This week it says "Which one of the two nominees do you want Eric to get evicted from the Big Brother House?"

That was a very suspicious way for them to pose a legitimate AP question...but I'll bet that was their intention because Eric's success at that task will be dependent upon the interpretation of BB. It seems to me that they could interpret that question many different ways.

If Eric votes for whomever was chosen in the poll and if that person is evicted, they could call it a success....OR....they could choose to call it a failure because he wasn't technically "the one that got him evicted". They could choose to conclude that he didn't campaign enough or that his actions made no real difference or something vague like that.

The HG could also be voted out unanimously. BB could interpret that as a success (Eric did what he could and that person was subsequently evicted)....OR....a failure (because Eric's vote was not the deciding vote).

He could do everything in his power "to get someone evicted" but there's no definitive way to determine if he was the one actually responsible for the eviction. He could do lots of campaigning for the HG he was told to target, but how can they possibly determine if it was his campaigning or someone else's that actually made the difference?

I'm generally not one to believe in BB conspiracies - that the game is really scripted or fixed - but with the AP task questions phrased the way this one was, it certainly looks suspicious.

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EDITED to add - Of course, as long as he actually votes the way we tell him to, we will know it because we get to see the HGs cast their votes. If BB interprets his task as a failure, it would only impact his $$, not the outcome of the eviction.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Sanfran: At the end of the show, the announcer specifically said that in order for Eric to succeed at this task, the person America picked would have to leave the house.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Thanks a lot! I totally missed that. That makes me feel less suspicious but I still think they should frame their task questions a little more clearly, though.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I liked this summary I found somewhere else and I think it will be easier for me to find again since I keep forgetting what's happened...

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 4:27 pm
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AP tasks, so far:

1. Tell Kail sob story - success
2. Vote for Carol - success
3. Target Jessica for eviction - failed attempt (he did talk to people about evicting her but she wasn't nominated so it was a failure)
4. "Sleepwalk" into Joe's bed - failed attempt (only because he couldn't fit!)
5. Get ? evicted - we'll know tomorrow

Emercat
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07-14-2006

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Emercat a private message Print Post    
Kail x 10!!!!!!

Rgw825
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07-29-2005

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rgw825 a private message Print Post    
10 or 11 for Kail, I lost track

Leafsweetie
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06-29-2005

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Leafsweetie a private message Print Post    
Okay it says max. 10 votes... but I'm sure I've voted more than that... for Kail, of course :-)

Pamplemousse
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09-28-2003

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamplemousse a private message Print Post    
I got in my 10 for Kail too

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Kail is a no brainer that ED will nominate her.
I think America should vote for Jen.
Most likely ED will nominate her, but Jen has a
better chance of being evicted than Kail.
Nick would vote out Jen over Kail.
I'm pretty sure the rest of the Mrs Robinson alliance
would vote for Kail to stay,
even though they went against her with ED.
I think Zach HATED Joe and got Mike to vote
with him.
Amber would vote to evict Jen over Kail.
So would Danielle.
I'm betting Jameka would vote out Jen over Kail.
So, America should have Eric campaign for Jen
to get nominated and evicted, and the guy will
win his $10,000.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Put in my 10 votes for Kail..I want Eric to get his money. The message boards at CBS are very much in favor of Kail so far.

Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
Wow. The way BB and Julie handled it Eric couldn't even vote. So if he did want to go against America's* vote he was out of luck.





I think from now on I'll asterisk this, since we can only hope BB tells Eric what America really voted. }

Caprica
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02-10-2007

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caprica a private message Print Post    
I voted Zach as many times a possible.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
I voted 10 for Kail. It's a win-win situation. Dick puts her up because he wants to, and Eric gets another task completed.

Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
This is a tough AP vote for me. I wanna vote for someone that helps Eric in the game.

I think he has a kinda/sorta/hidden deal with Jen, and she could be useful to him....so I don't want Jen to go yet.

I think Kail is the obvious vote, but Dick will nom her anyway, so that's a gimme for Eric, and doesn't let him see any clues from America's POV.

Maybe I'll toss my ten votes to Mike or Zach. If Eric gets the message, then maybe he can guide Dick to a nom of Kail/Mike instead of the obvious Kail/Jen - IF Dick doesn't think of it on his own anyway!

So - Zach or Mike? HELP!

Rbk10
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08-12-2005

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rbk10 a private message Print Post    
DICK NEEDS ZACH than mike, kail , jen.. i dont care anyone goes
only zach needs to stay

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
I don't like Kail..I don't like her little "I don't know anything about wordly stuff" routine. I don't like that she holes up in her room and ignores the rest of the house. I don't like what she said about gays. I don't like that she acts so superior to the others. In other words "I don't like Kail".. That is why she got all my votes this week..I want a guarentee that she is sitting on that block.