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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:16 pm
I don't think it's wise to turn this into what the definition of abuse is because there is a thing called verbal abuse and it can be just as violent as the physical abuse and at times even more repeatitive with the abuser thinking as long as he isn't touching his victim he isn't abusing them. You can beat a person into submission with words. But like I said I really hope this doesn't go there. Just like the house we as posters have a choice. We can collectively decide to go at each other or just have fun with all of this. I'd much rather take the later road and just agree to disagree on certain things. Just my personal opinion. What will be will be.
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Swannanoa
Member
07-09-2007
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:16 pm
EM, I smoke. And I've tried to quit. It is horrible. But....and that's a big but....it isn't so bad that someone can't control themselves. It just isn't. The combination of not smoking and being cooped up with a person you don't like and the situation in the house are making it worse, but he can make a choice. He doesn't have to act on it at all.
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Amykat
Member
07-24-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:16 pm
about Jen egging on dick-she told kail a day or two ago that they needed to push him until he did bad enough stuff to be thrown out. Kail said she couldn't do it, wouldn't be able to take it, something like that. Jen said she would, she didn't care. So, in this instance, yes, Jen is pushing Dick. kail and Jen have read the rule book many times lately
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:17 pm
Regarding the debate as to whether Eric chose to be AP, here is his brother's post @ SS on 7/11/07: snip I think for the time before and after the slop he has for the most part succeeded in implementing his strategy. during slop, it was a total disaster. And now that he's been hit with the AP twist he has an excuse to say to people like me after the game "i really didn't have much of a choice but to hang back a bit b/c i couldn't commit to anything." snip Eric had no choice! He was told he was AP, so if we go along with his wishes we like the AP twist; if we don't go along, we're saying get rid of it.
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Justin42
Member
08-05-2001
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:17 pm
I don't think there are set rules, unfortunately. It's kind of Allison's call unless/until it gets absolutely unavoidable (i.e., if there were physical altercations) Source was STUNNED Eric wasn't tossed from the show in BB6 from how they understood the rules... so there are no hard and fast rules.
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:18 pm
Pushing Dick in what he already has done. If he stopped and didn't even start on her, there would be nothing to worry about.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:18 pm
and personally I don't even think most people would remember the things he actually said if they weren't continually repeated to enrage others over and over again. It was said, it is over, it can't be taken back and he has been warned, if you want him gone then vote on CBS but please can we not have a rerun of his vile comments on every thread?
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:19 pm
HE repeats them again and again. And if people forget them, that makes it okay that it was done?
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:19 pm
Interesting, Justin42. On Housecalls today, Kaysar said that verbal abuse was not allowed in the rules.
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Swannanoa
Member
07-09-2007
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:19 pm
Is this vortex on until after the live show?
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Shellylyn
Member
07-29-2007
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:20 pm
it will be talked about daily because he does it daily
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Amykat
Member
07-24-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:20 pm
I'm thinking that behind that vortex is a bunch of people sitting down with the houseguests (behind the walls or in front, who knows) telling them to straighten up. I'm reeeeaaalllly hoping it's because Kail is leaving...
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:20 pm
I would like not to hear the vile comments as well. The vile comments coming from Dick at every moment.
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Tre34
Member
08-17-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:20 pm
votext copy
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Pinniethewooh
Member
07-14-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:20 pm
Jen egging on dick-she told kail a day or two ago that they needed to push him until he did bad enough stuff to be thrown out. Good for her! But that was after dick's most recent behavior.. where was the egging before with the other tirades?
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:20 pm
Cricket - in what context did Kaysar say that? was someone asking about what Dick's been doing?
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:21 pm
He DOES it over and over. And over and over and over. It's current today that's why we are discussing it in here today.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:21 pm
Good point, Ks.
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Justin42
Member
08-05-2001
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:21 pm
If verbal abuse wasn't allowed, many many people would have been tossed from the show. Unfortunately, I tend to think it's a free for all until someone gets hurt. And I have a feeling with how low-key BB is, someone WILL eventually get hurt on this show when all the warning signs were there. Especially if the perpetrator is someone that BB believes is helping drive ratings.
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Shellylyn
Member
07-29-2007
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:22 pm
/agree jen
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:22 pm
Yes, Tvwatcher. The callers were talking about it today. I sure wish the hosts had to watch the live feeds. Bunky doesn't even seem to know about Nick's mowhawk, so he said 'let's keep it a surprise.' How does CBS expect this show to stay interesting when the hosts don't even know what the callers are talking about?
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:23 pm
This is the link for the Dick Hates Women thread: ../10972/4417111.html"#E7EFEF"> | Dfng
Member
08-04-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:23 pm
So, I come home to find out lots is going on and we have day 20 of Dick is the abuser. I watched the Dick rant and I didn't see anything wrong. Sure, he is over the top with his rants and the words he uses but its a game and that is how he is electing to play the game. Nothing in the rule book that says you can't torture someone with words. Now to the Kail/Amber fight. That was funny too. I expected it to be more than it was. It was Amber blowing off steam so I am shocked that Kail can't take this kind of pressure. Did she think she was signing up for a TV Show that was about everyone being civil, kind and to have people there to do her cleaning. It just seems to me that people in and out of the house don't except that this is a game. It's not a game to see who can be the last one standing with high morals. How boring would that be.
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:24 pm
KS when you challenge people on the abuse thing unfortunately those that feel Dick may be abussive will use his previous comments as an example. Thats why I suggested we try to avoid the whole abuse thing. I personally don't know if he is abussive. I know he is very agressive and has a hot temper. He's playing the closed environment to his advantage. They can't literally get away from him. He's playing the mob mentality against those he goes after because the rest of the house won't stand up for the person he is going after. Both situations wouldn't exist outside of this game. A person would be able to get far away from him. A person would be able to file a police report if they felt like it. And chances are someone would step in and defend that person. Chances are that person would tell him off.
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Cruzlvr
Member
11-13-2003
| Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 3:24 pm
Just had a thought - maybe Kail has/had no intention of DOR, but thought if she went to the DR and requested it and said how afraid of Dick she was, that it would get Dick kicked out. Maybe that is what they are all discussing now. They we can see Kail's smurk for the next week how she got Dick out. And just to confirm, I am taking sides here, I don't like any of em. LOL And I am going to do a lot contradicting myself right now .. 1. I don't want to Kail to leave by DOR, but I want her gone. I would like to see someone DOR just to see how it works. 2. I don't want Dick to get kicked out cause I don't want to see Kail's smurk for however long she lasts after this. 3. I do think Dick has gone way over the top in his rantings and needs to tone it down. I also think the other HG have some fault in this as they continually tell Dick to "Do his thing" to keep Kail/Jen riled up. Dick was complaining about that very thing to Dustin earlier and said he was sick of it, especially if he wasn't going to get the team's support for doing it. Like I said a bunch of contradictions! LOL
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