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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:14 pm
Sounded to me unless I was listening to a whole different conversation that he admitted he made huge mistakes and that he is going to try harder..Short of slitting his wrists I don't know what some would expect him to do.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:15 pm
To me this is not normal sibling rivalry. That is bantering, and playing, but also love and being there for each other. This is one sibling (Daniele) who has a history of making demands and if they aren't met punishing the person by not talking to them. I think it's telling that she isn't talking to Dick, she isn't talking to her brother, and isn't talking to her Grandmother who raised her. Doesn't that raise any bells to you at all??? She seems very consistent, which says to me at the MOST it's not all Dick, but on paper sure looks like her way of dealing with problems is to punish by not talking to the other person. Very sad IMHO. Now off to read what her bro posted.
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:15 pm
But EM if she has heard that again and again it's a hard pill to swallow.
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:15 pm
The thing is...that we allways think we have more time...Time!...it flys by and then so much is lost... its hard to get grounded once you have lost out on being a part of somthing...
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:16 pm
(((Chewi))) Yep! 
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:17 pm
you see and there is what makes this a ridiculous situation. Dick going from person to person trying to stroke his ego that he is doing the right thing. and making Dani look bad I am looking forward to seeing the youtube and noting how often they both 'check out' the cameras.
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:19 pm
What I am objecting to is the feeling here that Dick is great for trying and Danielle is a brat for not giving him what he wants. I don't understand why yet again Dick gets a pass and Dani has to take all the blame for their bad relationship. It seems that for those who like Dick, he can do no wrong. I think I've said enough about this, time for bed.
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Scubalass
Member
07-01-2004
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:19 pm
The man has just cried ... bared his soul .... he needs support ... so what if he talks to people .. he needs some loving and positive strokes. So does Dani.
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:19 pm
Like i said they are the same. He wants his feeling validated and she wants hers. To say her feelings are the only ones that matter is absurd. And is part of the problem. Any relationship with problems has problems with both people involved not just one. He doesn't understand what she wants he said that and honestly i don't think she knows exactly what she wants either.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:19 pm
who is truly affected? who is truly suffering from the effects? Who is truly having a hard time of being in the house? anyways, Off to find the youtube
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Dawken
Member
07-21-2005
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:20 pm
See right now I dont care if it is Nick or amber or anyone dani needs to not be alone right now even if it somone to hold on to and a shoulder to cry on .... you cant be strong all of the time or the tears will consume you and you will loose your mind
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:20 pm
I hear you Kmjm. Night!
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:21 pm
But Jen, would she even notice if he's trying..and when he does try does she then find another reason to get angry. Sounds to me like everyone in her life either cowtows or they will pay. I know a lot of people who have had realllllyyyyy horrible childhoods, in and out of foster care, taken away by police in the middle of the night, beaten everyday of their lives, and they manage to be civil. I realize that it doesn't always happen like that, but from what I've heard so far, daddy was there, but daddy didn't do perfect. Looking for a perfect parent is not realistic..we are flawed.
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:22 pm
Thanks Jen!
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:23 pm
Well her brother doesn't want it to be Amber. He says she is the last person Daniele needs to talk to.
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:23 pm
Hyper...Beautiful day here, took a day "drive" trip. The one thing I have learned in life....I hug my daughter and tell her I love her every time I see her...
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Govols
Member
07-19-2005
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:23 pm
Whew~I am so glad I didn't have a Dad with a larger ego than himself. Dick is all talk and no action. They both need to go on Dr. Phil and hear him say "We need someone to step up and be the hero in this family and quit trying to be "right" about everything.".
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:23 pm
It is quite obvious by Danielle's REFUSAL to open up and/or speak to Dick....that she has been hurt very badly for a long time..... Whether it is "imagined hurt" blown out of proportion, or some things that EDick really did that were abusive...that is how Danielle sees it. The ONLY way for these two to learn that LOVE is all about "accepting each other as is"....and being unconditional in our love for our family members, etc.....is by seeking long-term family therapy, and I am so happy to hear Dick mention it, over and over!
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:24 pm
Two things my mother taught me.. NO ONE IS PERFECT and YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO DEEPLY LOVE UNTIL YOU BECOME A PARENT. When Danielle has a child she will see what he feels, until then she has no idea.
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:24 pm
She's looking for a parent. Playing the parent role. Not a perfect one, but someone to count on and be her stable force. Of course we're all flawed. Right now. He's saying what Daniele said to the gmother, but that's what you do to parents. You rebell. He doesn't get that she needed someone to tell her what to do as a child!
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Nanalinda
Member
08-06-2005
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:24 pm
Could someone please explain what happened between Dick/Danielle...How did it start & a brief summary of what was said. Please!!!!! There is nothing on Live Feeds. I'm read back a few pages here & can read everyone's reaction but I can't get a feel of what was really said. Thanks
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:25 pm
Huh, sibling rivalry!
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:25 pm
Chewi, I'm glad you took your drive. I do too. I did the same with my son. Life is just too short and can be gone in a second.
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:26 pm
This is not needing to talk about his feelings, this is talking about Danielle. I can see why this would piss her off. Stop talking about her!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:28 pm
I know a lot of people who have had realllllyyyyy horrible childhoods, in and out of foster care, taken away by police in the middle of the night, beaten everyday of their lives, and they manage to be civil. me too. Funny how all the people I know have attachment disorder issues, lash out at their kids, Lash out at their spouses/ signif. others or FAKE happiness when infront of the public. guess it is just luck of the draw with the people we know.
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