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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 10:36 am
Seems to me that Dick definitely shot himself in the foot yesterday with his long, mean, nasty and onceited blathering with Jen. And then he continued shooting himself in th foot again and again by repeating the conversation over and over with anyone he could corner. Danielle said in the first show that he was never a father, but a mean friend. Given she has not talked to him for two years and she is 20, that means she was 18 when she made the break. If he talked to a fragile 18 year old girl like he talked to Jen yesterday, she was right to have gotten him out of her life. No one, especially a teenage girl whose parents both rejected her when she was very young, needs someone that viciously destructive in their lives. I suspect after the Veto meeting and a new HG is nominated and the heat settles that Dick will find himself tossed out on his a** this week. The funny thing is, he will have learned nothing because he is so convinced he is the one who sees all, knows all and understands all; everyone else is just stupid in his eyes.
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 11:08 am
I agree that Dick did not do himself any favours yesterday. One thing I find interesting about Dick is that he is a really insecure guy. He's not exactly successful in life- a career bartender who pretends he's still in his 20s but can't fail to see the truth in the mirror, a failure as a father and unable to sustain any long-term relationships. He still has unresolved issues with his mother and women make him angry and resentful. So he overcompensates by acting how he imagines a successful, mature man would act- name dropping his Hollywood contacts, spewing a lot of vulgar sex talk and lecturing everyone else on how they should behave. Like he's an expert on human relations! I want Dick to stay because I'd like to see how he's going to handle the pressures of this game. He may crack up and have to face some truths about himself.
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Fieryfurnace
Member
07-05-2006
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 12:07 pm
I think Dick is a refreshing change from the uptight, sneeky, kissing-up-to-the-HOH-no-matter-what houseguests we have been subjected to for several years now. I enjoy his honesty and that he admits he is flawed, and is not afraid to say what the rest of the house is thinking. I remember last week everyone on this board hated Jen, now that Dick told Jen what he thought of her, everyone hates Dick. Odd.
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Clemmis
Member
07-10-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 12:43 pm
I agree! I love Dick! And I'm a guy! Heh. Heh. Seriously, Dick is a real person, flawed, raw, and on a rampage. He is the anti-Big Brother. He is uncontrollable rage and that makes him fun to watch and watching him does refresh us all against the stasis of the other cardboard people who populate the house.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 12:51 pm
Dick for president!
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Dedonjo
Member
08-20-2006
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 1:18 pm
Kmjm-I think you hit the nail on the head, very perceptive post, imo. Fiery, yours too. I agree, I'd like to see him stay and see how it all develops.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 2:02 pm
He was going out of his way to get an reaction from Jen. She didnt give him the satisfaction. Like he's an expert on human relations! and that is the cruix of the problem. Dick doesnt understand that he is an expert on human relations in the narrow parameter of Barhounds, partygirls and musicians who are living the 'lifestyle'. They say a bartender starts to feel like a counsellor since people tell you their problems. I can imagine 25 yrs of that would make you feel like you are superior to people. In this case I dont think Dick is actually acting how what he thinks a mature businessman acts, I think it is how a person who has never matured emotionally acts. To resort to argueing and Bullying as a "game technique" shows an immature personality IMHO. I dont even think he realizes how he comes off. Like yesterday during the jen Rant, He kept commanding people back into the house. I would have told him to bugger off.....But seriously, would i? then he might turn on me. So truthfully he is being treated with caution by the others and Dick reads the caution as "respect". Just theories
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Lilviking
Member
07-19-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 2:03 pm
I wouldn't miss Dick in the least if he were to leave this week. I liked him in the beginning, even found him amusing. It wasn't so much his vulgar language that changed my opinion of him as the way he speaks to Jen. As soon as he told her to "shut up and listen" I lost all respect for him. She wasn't arguing back, swearing, or even raising her voice, yet he felt justified in going into one of his little rampages. The longer he preached at Jen yesterday the less and less I liked him. The man not only threw in unnecessary insults (no one in the house likes her, they're all talking about her behind her back, she's one dimensional, she's stupid, ect.), but went on (and on and on) about himself. His bars, all the famous people he knows, the fact that he doesn't need any more friends since he meets hundreds of people every night, how hard it was for him to get in the house, his son, ect.,ect.,ect. I think Daniele describing him as a "mean friend" was unbelievably kind. He is everything that he accuses Jen of being -arrogant, self centered, rude, stupid, and all about 'me,me,me'. He is so convinced that he is right about everything that he will never, no matter how long they keep him locked up in that house, stop to look at a situation from any other view. He no longer amuses or entertains me. He simply disgusts me and I will not waste my time watching him spew any more of The Gospel According To Dick, the All Mighty either on the live feeds or the show.

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Fieryfurnace
Member
07-05-2006
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 2:11 pm
Dick IS an expert on human relations compared to most people in the house, Jen espeically.
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Dzzyedge
Member
08-22-2006
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 2:48 pm
I really like Dick. He may be harsh, and not dipolmatic...but he basically told Jen the truth. Not that she's going to change anything about how she's playing the game.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 2:59 pm
His truth, not 'the' truth. And that is the issue, his truth is based on his experiences interpretation.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 3:06 pm
What Dick fails to understand is that being liked by everyone in the house does not necessarily mean you will win the game! Ironically, he is not trying to be liked, but tells Jen that this is what she needs to do!
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 3:09 pm
Shooting Yourself in the Foot -- Dick Style -- Over and Over Again I was expecting something totally different in this thread! I thought Dick found the Jack Shack and wondered why it merited it's own thread.
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Fieryfurnace
Member
07-05-2006
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 3:17 pm
Sunshyne4u, what did he say that is not true? He said people in the house don't like her. That's THE truth, not HIS truth. He said people talk about her behind her back. That's THE truth, not his truth. He said she is all about me, me, me. That's THE truth, not his truth. He said she's rude, etc. etc. etc.
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Ruskybiz
Member
07-15-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 3:32 pm
Dick\ The guy you love to hate He blathers on and on (mostly about himself) and he really believes that he is the all-knowing elder of the house. Unfortunately, he does make sense sometimes and he is interesting. I hate him, I love him. I want him to stay.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 3:44 pm
that everyone HATES her is not true. mike kail zach eric...they are playing a part. The others in the house are ambivilent but will go along with anything that Dick says because he says it forcefully and they dont want to fight with him. A good example of Dick being incorrect is when he told Jen that their conversation (of half hour) was the longest that she had ever had in the house. She said Untrue. He talked over her and kept ranting. Dick doesnt know the truth, he is guessing. to say a player is all about ME! well, they ALL are all about themselves. Dick just falsely believes Jen is stupid and an easy target. but lets agree to disagree I'd rather he stayed, Nick has bored me.
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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 5:15 pm
One thing about Dick though, he is not afraid to speak his mind, for good or worse for himself. That is rare in a BB player, and it makes for great live feeds. Isn't it more interesting to listen to ED prattle on and on about this and that rather than endless hours of "Sigh, this is boring, I'm hungry, etc." I didn't get the live feeds this year because too often nothing goes on (and BB blocks too many things.) With ED, it seems like at least SOMETHING is going on...even if it is annoying.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 7:05 pm
I don't like how he talks down to Jen. Some say he is transfering his anger @ Daniele (she doesn't speak to him) on to Jen. I don't get where he is coming from. He said tonight on the show that Jen would be a fool not to put him up. She puts him up and he's upset with her. What does that mean?? He needs to have more respect for his fellow players, because I agree with Sunshyne, his world is different and his perceptions/truth are not THE truth. He's hurting his chances in the game because he can't stop lecturing people on how they should act, rather than concentrating on his own actions.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 7:10 pm
But his perceptions are HIS perceptions, and he's entitled to them. And I think the reason he's upset with Jen's nominations is because he put both of them up, knowing that if he were on the block he couldn't be a vote to keep Danielle in. Plus, I think he really does she Jen for what she is (and I'm way too polite to say what I think she is right now!).
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 7:14 pm
Dick For President Ketchuplover for VP!!! I like how Dick didn't follow Jen into the HOH room. Rude, maybe, but at that moment he was real - not going to kiss Jen's patootie just cuz she was this weeks HOH.
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 7:20 pm
I agree that most of what Dick said to Jen was true....but was it HIS place to speak to her like that? What good would it do to talk "bluntly" to someone who knows you HATE them? Probably nothing...so why do it? To vent? To hurt the other person? Also....I agree that Dick is interesting and he sees things fairly clearly, even about himself.....but I also see a man who comes off as a total hypocrite....he says Jen only speaks about herself...."me me me!"...but so does Dick.....he says she namedrops....so does Dick....he says she is not playing smart....well neither is Dick....Jen has her self-absorbing character defects, but Dick has SERIOUS self-absorbtion and ANGER issues of his own. And yet, I do not dislike Dick or Jen...atleast they both seem to be HONEST and forthcoming....
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Kswheels
Member
06-30-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 7:32 pm
I'm confused...Was is it his place? Uh...Who determines that? And furthermore why wouldn't it be his place? Quite honestly when dealing with someone like Jen no approach is going to work, blunt or otherwise, so I don't think his being extremely direct affected the situation one way or another.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:24 pm
Of all the "truths" Dick may speak, virtually none of them are "truths" about himself. They are always "truths" about others and virtually always negative, caustic, sarcastic, biting and vicious. The closest we get to him speakng his own truths are his ego-driven name dropping and talking about his self-inflated position in the industry. Of course there are the off-handed, quick comments about his having made mistakes as a father. But virtually all of these are said in a way and with a tone to seek sympathy and to pat himself on the back for wanting to do the right thing (assuming he even wants to).
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:42 pm
Unfortunately everyone and Jen included are already forgetting Dick's lack of diplomacy and focussing on getting Nick out instead. I predicted both father and daughter would go up and was hoping another 'enemy from the past' would leave the house (this twist is useless), but looks like this pair will stay yet another week... unless Dick is ready to push his luck even further by attacking Mrs. Robinson... his BB days may be over sooner.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:54 pm
well lets not forget to debate the one huge mistake that Dick has made. Telling a number of people about Daniele's snarkiness as a kid, how she would be so hateful and yell terrible things at his dad and mom. Then after Daniele goes off at Jen before the POV comp, Dick runs around saying how 'out of character' it was. How Dani just doesnt 'go off' like that. So....it is like saying he was lying in the first story. either she has a history of going off, or not. make up your mind.
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