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Jucylucy
Member
08-23-2005
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:17 am
I actually think Jen liked knowing that Kail betrayed her last night. When Dick told Jen privately in the storage room what Kail said and then came out to the kitchen, Kail whispered to Jen, did he try intimating you in there and Jen just said nope and didnt tell Kail what Dick said.
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Jeannie23
Member
07-16-2007
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:17 am
Right Naja. The house might not realize it but they need Dick right now to get rid of Kail. She is another Maggie.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:18 am
Bonza, she told him at the beginning she was trying to rest, but he wouldn't leave. By the end, he had her beaten down with his threat. She was like a victim.
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Cruzlvr
Member
11-13-2003
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:18 am
Cricket - yes - just before it went to vorex Eric said everyone would be participating. So I am think if the other HG who weren't chosen but are participating might get a chance to knock out or help some of the veto players. For example if the non-veto players are being used as something in the comp, Mike could make it harder for everyone else and make it easier for Kail when it was her turn to do whatever she might have to do with him. Not sure if this makes sense or not. LOL
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Christiii
Member
07-07-2005
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:18 am
she was freaking IN BED, trying to go to sleep! I know, from personal experiece that when someone is a little odd, or intimidating, and I think he might go off, then i just agree and am meek and just give in the the conversation...and try to end it in a good way. I own a boutique and you run into some odd people sometimes! I just saw myself in Kail when she was be talked at by Dick last ight. She was in a no win situation, and in that case its better to just difuse it. If she had told him to F off and left, she waould have paid dearly for rest of the time in the house
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:18 am
I have no problem with Kail going home, but why does Dick need to keep verbally abusing her?
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Aerojunki
Member
06-30-2004
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:19 am
I agree Dick likes to pat his own back & needs to know when to shut up, but I do NOT see him as a abusive, woman hating man!
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Lesleyjack
Member
06-20-2005
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:19 am
Exactly, Cricket. She needed to speak up sooner. I don't think she has ever had to deal with someone like Dick in her little hometown.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:19 am
If Dick's behavior is so abusive, I'm more shocked that literally no one is coming to Kail's defense (in the house) than I am at Dick for letting it all hang out. I understand that Dick still has veto-nomination rights and whatnot. But truly, if Dick was being that unjustly cruel to someone in the house you'd think at least one would have the nuts to tell him to stop it (and particularly Kail should stand up for herself, I mean what the hell else could he do to her at this point?) With no one leaping to her defense, I suspect Dick's telling her what the rest are thinking but don't have the wherewithall to tell her themselves. And we seem to have a game of everyman for himself. Who was that Survivor winner who's game was "anyone but me?" We seem to have a houseful of "anyone but me" players.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:20 am
Hamsterlady, he tends to go after her or Jen when the are alone. He wasn't getting attention last night, so he went to Kail to tell her again how awful she was and threaten if she ever repeated the convo, she would pay. Told her to quit playing the game; she's toast. He sees her talking to Mike and goes off, just like he said he would. What is she supposed to do?
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Hamsterlady
Member
07-03-2003
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:21 am
Cricket, you're making it pretty much sound like he was holding her captive or something. Rubbish! She was laying there all propped up and facing him. They were talking back and forth. Somebody (don't remember who now) even opened the door and asked if they were going to play Zumba with that and they both said yes. But then they started talking again and the others started without them. Kail wasn't and isn't a prisoner. And Dick wasn't and certainly isn't the jailer.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:21 am
GAL that is exactly what I have been saying. All this abuse stuff is ridiculous it's game. No one is going to allow anyone to be abused.
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Bonzacat
Member
07-08-2003
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:21 am
I know we all see last night a bit differently, and that's one of the amazing things about BB - every summer. 
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:21 am
I've never had to deal with someone like Dick, Lesleyjack. I have seen people like Dick and the havoc they leave behind.
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Christiii
Member
07-07-2005
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:21 am
Because NO ONE wants to rattle his cage Goddess!! its very easy to understand. they are all fine with someone else being in Ed's line of fire, just as long as its not them...
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Jucylucy
Member
08-23-2005
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:21 am
Last night Kail didnt have to speak to Dick, but she chose to and try one last ditch effort to get Dick to focuse on Jen to get the boot. If I had been Kail, I wouldnt have spoken to Dick when he came to see how she was. She could have said she wanted to be alone and go to sleep. But Kail keeps talking to him, thinking she can change his mind. Dick likes to beat a dead horse, yes, but Kail knows this and thinks she is smarter than Dick the bartender. She needs to let it go as much as Dick does.
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Lgary26
Member
08-18-2006
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:21 am
i'm with cricket, i want kail to leave this week, but Dick said his peace relax, let her lay in the bed she made and take a chill pill, lol
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Napa1526
Member
07-14-2007
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:22 am
Way to go Godessatlaw! I couldn't agree more. Kail hung herself last week when she got caught in her lies. I give Dick credit for calling people out in front of the entire group. While most HG's go behind peoples' backs, Dick tells you like it is...to your face! You're right...people stereo typed Dick the minute they seen him because he looks "different". I give the guy kudos for having a mind of his own and not being someone's puppet. Get rid of Dick and Jen....BB would be the most boring BB in history.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:23 am
If Dick's behavior is so abusive, I'm more shocked that literally no one is coming to Kail's defense (in the house) than I am at Dick for letting it all hang out Me too, Goddess. Zach and Nick have turned on her and Mike can't say anything until after the Veto, but he did let Dick know yesterday that he's not afraid of him and he knows Dick is in an alliance as well. This really made Dick upset, so I feel he's taking it out on Kail.
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Jeannie23
Member
07-16-2007
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:24 am
I hope Kail IS toast and she is awful IMO.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:24 am
I can't wait until the show is over and all the houseguests give their 'version' of why they didn't stand up for Kail.
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Hamsterlady
Member
07-03-2003
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:24 am
Dick can tell her any thing he wants to. And Kail can take it any way she wants to. This is a game fer cryin' out loud. Dick's not God. Just because he tells somebody to do something doesn't mean they have to. And it's pretty obvious that Kail has decided to not stop playing the game as evidenced by her convo with Mike this morning. She's a grown woman who can take care of herself.
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Phoenix
Member
07-05-2007
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:25 am
Goddess, I agree that Kail brought her current situation on herself and that she's a big girl and could/should stand up for herself. Dick is using his "sense" of truth and justice to out anyone that he doesn't like. Which would be fine if he could be HOH each and every week BUT some of these people will sooner or later have power and then it will be interesting to see how he reacts. See if he backpedals a little. The way he jumped Amber yesterday because she was excited about him winning HOH. I'm sorry but it was just a little extreme. She was just showing her "true" emotions and look where it got her.
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Lesleyjack
Member
06-20-2005
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:26 am
It just simple. Dick wants KAil out. He put her up, he wants her to stay up, and he will freak out and yell all week if she even tries to stay in. He will call her out everytime he sees her or hears of her talking to anyone. This will make everyone nervous to be seen with her and she will go home if his plan works. I think she should be allowed to play the game, but he won't let her. He is brilliant in that he will probably get her booted, but who in that house will want to be the next person to try to get him out? I think they will vote to keep her in that she would go after Dick again.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:26 am
Hamsterlady, she didn't go to him as he is saying. He started out nice and then got nasty. The most chilling part for me was she asked something and he said, "Look, don't misrepeat my words..If you say one thing about what we talked about tonight, I'll call you out as a liar." (paraphrasing) Chilling! Yet, he told many about their convo. Double standard.
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