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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 1:32 am
i see it LOL
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 3:26 am
I can remember from when I lived in Tennessee that there was a big stink because you could hire 18 year old to work in stores, specially ones that sold alcohol but they couldn't touch the external case...the customer had to run the beer/other over the scanner. To me, the 18 year olds taking the money was the same as selling it, but the law didn't look at it that way, so I'm guessing it is the same way in a restaurant?
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Callasin
Member
06-21-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 5:44 am
Here in MA you can serve alcohol as a waitress or be a bartender at age 18 but you can't purchase or drink it until you are 21.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 3:09 pm
Did I just read in the House Happenings thread that Dick was telling family history and was dissing Danielle? Well THAT says a lot for how much of a father he actually is! It's one thing to vent with friends. But can you imagine gossiping about your own daughter with a group of people you are both living, and including the dirt about what she is like? Sheesh! So much for his "good intentions" towards having a proper father/daughter relationship!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 3:10 pm
Live feeds around 2:40pm.....also a bit in the screencap thread for those interested. I was shocked when Dick said "I was so mad i wanted to kill her" that is sure a bad choice of words.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 3:12 pm
you can work as a bartender, legally do porn and drive but you cant drink/ buy alcohol or vote. We live in a warped sick world.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 3:12 pm
You know, the impression I got was he was unloading to Kail - parent to parent... not so much as "Dissing" (my point of view, I respect yours too what) but just how he felt having that door slammed in his face (when Dick's dad died - no excuse, just how Dick felt) ... he mentioned how his mother dissed him to Danielle and Vince.. and to me another telling part, Dick has kept her age a secret!
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 3:16 pm
That may be, Reader. But given they are in a world of 14 people, living in close quarters, a father should not be saying these things about his daughter, even if he is just unloading -- at least a proper father would not.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 3:19 pm
A "proper" father? How about a human father?
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 3:29 pm
lol but it is ok for her to tell people he was just a friend to her "A MEAN friend" He was pretty clear that he understood her behavior was because of her age when she did these things. He always made an excuse for how she acted. I think he wants to fix things and Kail is someone he feels could give him some good advise since she is a conventional parent. I remember acting like Daniele... telling my grandmother I hated her, I blamed her for not being with my Mom. Now will Daniele understand if the conversation gets back to her? No. But I would hope Kail knows better than to repeat the conversation and risk Daniele being hurt. If she does I'll have zero respect for has a human being.
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Laneesmom
Member
05-12-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 3:36 pm
Can someone direct me to approx. what time on the LIVE feeds Dick and Kail's convo. was?
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 3:36 pm
That's what I'm thinking Kalekona - maybe Dick is needing an intervener - maybe he is being coached in the DR (dont they have to talk to a psych or social worker in DR?) that Kail as a parent could help dick mend some of the broken fences? Maybe I'm just giving Dick too much credit??
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 3:37 pm
Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 3:10 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Live feeds around 2:40pm.....also a bit in the screencap thread for those interested. .
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Laneesmom
Member
05-12-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 3:53 pm
Thanks Sunshyne!
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 3:57 pm
Kalekona, Do you really equate the actions of a 20 year old daughter with her 40+ year old father? You see it as tit for tat? (Wow! You guys are far more forgiving of Dick than I am. I suspect if the real story (as opposed to HIS story) ever comes out about why he did not have custody, and how he has treated his children, his mother and father, etc., you might feel very differently.)
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 4:04 pm
Possibly What...but it hasn't
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 4:11 pm
I WAS Daniele. Raised by my grandparents and the behavior Dick describes is typical in the situation she grew up in. My Mother WAS Dick, making choices that were better for her than her kids. I see it for exactly what it is and if talking to Kail helps Dick learn how to relate to his daughter than it was the right thing for him to do. I hold no illusion that Dick was the perfect father but the fact that he wants to do better and tries shows he cares and a parent that really loves you is more important in the long run than one that does all the right things. No I equate Daniele's actions with Dicks? No I do not because Dick is not trashing his daughter just because he can, he is speaking the truth about how she behaved. You can not get help if you are not honest about things. Where Daniele was acting exactly like a child calling Daddy names because she is mad at him.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 4:21 pm
quote:you can work as a bartender, legally do porn and drive but you cant drink/ buy alcohol or vote.
Untrue in California. She cannot work as a bartender and she cannot buy alcohol. She CAN work in porn, drive, AND vote. (If she works in a bar, she can work as a barback. Essentially, schlepping dirty dishes around and bringing in fresh lemons/limes, but nothing with alcohol.)
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 4:24 pm
BTW, who's definition of "proper father"? What may be "proper" to one may be "normal" to another. And FWIW, I kinda took Reader's and Kale's take on it... he was just unloading to a fellow parent. Period. Not gossiping at all.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 5:20 pm
Perhaps that is what he is doing. But if this were his real goal -- and it were honest and true -- he would have gotten real help long ago or would wait until he got out of the house. To do so, in this way, with people who are going to determine his daughter's fate in the short run is, to me, not right. I also recall him saying early on that he has watched earlier BB's and has studied Dr. Will, intending to emulate him. What better way to ingratiate himself with Kail than to get her sympathy over what an evil and ungrateful daughter he has and what a wonderful father he has tried to be? And, of course, Dr. Will's most famous strategy is that "it is all lies." It is all rubbish, in my eyes. But I know many of you disagree with me.
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 5:23 pm
What, I read on the house happenings thread that Daniele and Dick were caught in convo on the feeds discussing the other houseguests and it is now believed that they are working together...what better way to keep the others thinking they are still estranged?! I am still trying to find the conversation somewhere but haven't found it yet! 
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 5:26 pm
Lainee...it's at Jokers. http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Board=bbusaupdates&Number=5774967
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 5:30 pm
What, i don't know if you are a parent or not but i can tell you from experience that your perception of that conversation is way off. He never called her evil or ungrateful. He explained the behavior issues they had and was very clear to point out she was a kid and didn't understand things. And he never claimed to be a wonderful father at all. He admitted he had been selfish. As for gaining sympathy from Kail for having a horrible father, well that is just WAY off. A conservative mother will fault the father with the tattoo's and wild life style before she would blame the daughter no matter what he told her.
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 5:31 pm
Thanks so very much Hypermom! That is quite an interesting development...although a few called it on here last week that Dick and Daniele had the perfect cover...father and daughter at odds with each other! 
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 5:31 pm
It is all rubbish, in my eyes. But I know many of you disagree with me. dick is an actor, same as Jen. there is no doubt in my mind that it was 'for the camera'. i already called this day one of feeds. I thought that the "breakdown" in the backyard the first night of feeds was for 'camera time' too. AND to get a fanbase.
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