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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 2: Big Brother Influencing the Game: Archive through July 12, 2007 users admin

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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 9:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
We've seen more than a few examples of how BB appears to influence the game.

For example, people talk about DRs where they have been told certain things to encourage them to play the game differently. Typingfool mentioned that "last night Carol told Eric that the DR told her she needed to fight because she was one of America's top 3. So that tells me they seriously influence the game."

Another way BB appears to influence the game is that the POV competition sometimes seems conveniently slanted toward the contestant that most desperately needs to win the Veto.

So let's talk about ways we see BB influence the game and whether this is a bad or a good thing.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
I thought that was what BB was supposed to do, influence the game. If BB wasn't the game would just be called 'Bunch Of wannabes stuck in a house'. :-)

Yesitsme
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08-24-2004

Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 10:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yesitsme a private message Print Post    
I'd like BB to influence the game a bit more overtly. That should be the bottom line of the premise of the show, I think. But I'd rather they let the audience be in on it when they do things like influence them in the diary room. I'd rather it be us and BB against the houseguests, while it seems to often be BB and the houseguests against the audience.

Still, I know if they had played that hand a lot looser in the past, the show probably wouldn't be going on now. You would have a bunch of cynical contestants expecting BB to be playing with their minds. Though that could be fun, too, come to think of it!!!

Hober
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06-27-2004

Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hober a private message Print Post    
Dustin was just talking about how the DR tries to make him say certain things and he refuses, such as being so disappointed .... and then we got cut off.

Anastasia
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08-26-2006

Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 9:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Anastasia a private message Print Post    
I know some people think the showmances are contrived. Is there evidence of this? I'm just not sure some HG's could fake some of this.

Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
I know some of the All-Star hamsters used to allude to BB "scripting" things (James, especially, I seem to recall) but I think there's a difference between BB manipulating, influencing, slanting, contriving, etc. and outright scripting things. I have no problem with the attempts to manipulate or suborn the HG's, I just wish BB would be smarter about what they choose to manipulate. Sometimes it seems they focus on stupid and irrelevant issues when those of us with the feeds see the real conflicts and controversies that could be exploited.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 5:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Jen: I think that I already won it, I won HOH tomorrow
Eric: You want it?
Jen: No, I did.. on accident, I didn't mean to
Eric: What?
Jen: I won HOH tomorrow.. I didn't mean to, like I tried to drop out but I won it already
Eric: You think that this happened? How is that?
Jen: I just did
Eric: I have no idea what you're talking about
Jen: I won because it was based on Carol and then like, she gave me a bunch of answers
and I knew 'em all.. it's weird
Eric: It's possible..
Jen: I couldn't pass it up
Eric: If it's based on Carol, most people are gonna be ••••••
Jen: I'm pretty sure it is
Eric: That's what it was last year
[cue the blues]

Jen is summoned to Diary a bit later and then Eric's called in after her
(Ivory_Mist posted this from another board, asking if anyone's heard this - - either way it made me LOL - and reminded me how we accuse BB every year of slanting the comps/hoh to a particular hg!)

Ivory_mist
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08-31-2005

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 5:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ivory_mist a private message Print Post    
I also heard that BB...took away those 'Jen shirts'......I wonder if they thought they were going to be her downfall...so they are helping her by doing that.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I also heard one HG connect Chilltown and Jen.

Cousin_jake
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07-04-2002

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cousin_jake a private message Print Post    
Well it wasn't too hard to connect! LOL
I heard Jen tell someone a couple of days ago that she knows Boogie and someone named Lonnie. (Boogie's partner?)

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Well is it Big Brother??? interesting!!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 6:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
so it wasnt a practice hoh game she said she won otherwise Eric would have known what she was talking about

RIGGGED!!!! they knew she causes drama so they fixed it

I think they changed the questions after she got busted on feeds...I am still shocked they still let her win

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 6:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I'm surprised taht this thread isnt Hopping. I'm just up from my nap and Saw the HOH was prearranged to be jen.

I was on live feeds when that convo occurred. I've also wondered why she's been kinda winking at the cam and Smirking at the other HGs. I just figured she was feeling awkward as to the tension.

Rigged, absolutely rigged. So blatant

and I am dying to know why we dont have feeds. Always we have feeds right after the show ends.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 6:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
prolly cuz they are telling them not to talk about Jen saying she won HOH earlier!

Woodpecke®
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07-16-2002

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Woodpecke® a private message Print Post    
If it actually is rigged, CBS would be in deep doo doo. Something tells me that they aren't that stupid.

Lilviking
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07-19-2005

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 6:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilviking a private message Print Post    
I'm with you, Sun! I'm so disgusted by the obvious fix regarding Jen winning HoH that I posted about it on the CBS site. I wonder how fast they'll delete it...

I'm sure they've covered themselves legally, but I personally feel hugely discouraged from bothering with the show after this. (yes, you see people say that every year- but it's the first time I've said it!)




Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
Just shows Will is STILL running things.

It would be one thing if any of the HG made comments like Jen did last night and then DID win HOH but the fact that she is the Chill Town plant makes it look oh so much worse.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 7:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Come on people.

quote:

Jen: I won because it was based on Carol and then like, she gave me a bunch of answers and I knew 'em all... it's weird .


So where were the questions based on Carol? In fact, was there even a single ONE with Carol as the answer? Nope, I don't think so. So IF the "practice" was rigged, the real thing wasn't.

And Will isn't running things. Jen just got lucky.

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
I second that Costacat. No conspiracy, just confusion.

Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
Here's a more thorny question. Is America's Player really a way for BB to manipulate the game? Eric's vote for Carol was meaningless, but in the future his vote could be a tiebreaker.

Do y'all trust that the true vote of America is what Eric is ordered to do, or would BB have Eric vote a certain way and say it was America's vote?

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
I think they can suggest and cajole and manipulate to some degree, but I think giving us a vote and doing something else would create a lot of ill will toward the network. If they cast well and have enough twists for their TV moments, it should be okay for them.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
What surprises me about Jen's predicting her win yesterday it's not just the Q&A (and they were not about Carol as she said) but the final guess, the guys were all of them way to high whereas she kept very low and this is fishy, so how did she know she was going to win? (Do we have a conspiracy thread?)

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 7:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
I agree with Yesitsme. It really would be fun to see the hamsters' reactions when BB is manipulating them, and we could see who the most gullible are.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 7:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I dont buy that Jen is smart enough to have figured the answer would be a low # esp since everyone else guessed so high

I still think BB changed the questions after Jen said they were about Carol

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 7:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
oh come on you guys.

When she realized she had blurted it out, she tried to make it confusing.

Eric went along with it saying 'he didnt know what she was talking about'.

Reminded me of the Joe Schmo Show when an actor would screw up and the others would try to prompt them to dig themselves back OUT of the hole.