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Archive through September 20, 2007

The TVClubHouse: Big Brother VIII - 2007 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 11: After Party: Archive through September 20, 2007 users admin

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Ch3j0r
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07-21-2005

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ch3j0r a private message Print Post    
Thanks everyone! It is so fun to read the behind the scenes stuff. I look forward to reading about the wrap party!

Dentre
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09-19-2007

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dentre a private message Print Post    
I think Amber should have been fired and glad she was.

Fanof8
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08-04-2007

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fanof8 a private message Print Post    
I was hoping to hear about after-parties stuff.

It sounds as though Dick was in total game mode in winning it all because it sounds like his son is a good kid. Or maybe Vincent learned how not to be, lol.

Thanks Milosmom and Ddfan. Very enjoyable and added insight.

Holly
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06-19-2005

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
And I think Dick should have been kicked off for his vile abuse and misogynistic tirades but he wasn't. Amber's treatment is nothing but overkill whilst his is nothing but underkill.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
I actually do not think Amber should have been fired. However, that is likely to be one of the risks of participating on a reality show like BB.

Thanks everyone for sharing their information/experiences on the BB postshow party.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
All racism is bad. However, I think there are different levels of racism. If she continues to hold onto, espouse and act on her racist beliefs that is a different thing. Hopefully someone will help her understand why what she said was so wrong.

I agree that some other people are quite gleeful over Amber's remarks as it takes the pressure off of negative remarks that they have made on other subjects. Also it is a great opportunity to score points. There are also some columnists who are unnecessarily abusive about Amber in return and who demean anti-Semitism when they jokingly make references to her with respect to her potential involvement with truly horrible anti-Semite acts.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
Oops... sorry, screwed up post... :-(

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
espouse ... i like it...think i will see how many times i can use it in a sentence today :-)

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
Looking forward to getting all the juicy details and pics of the wrap party. Here is a link to someone who went and took pics at the finale party.

http://janellefansite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=499

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
As for Amber being fired, it was a valid and just move on the part of the Casino. Amber is there in that casino as a "face" for that casino. How would you feel if you were Jewish and had to come in and see Amber serving you and knowing the things she has said about you. As for her comments being "over-blown" well, ask a Jewish person who has had or had family go through the persecution they did in the holocaust and in other areas of life and see if they feel different.

As for people now going to compare it to Dick, well if Dick's employer fired him then they also would be just and right as several groups including NOW in Sacramento area did oppose and state publicly their opposition.

I managed and had to deal in Human Resources in large companies for years. If you go out and do something that would in anyway be "unethical" or do something in such a public forum that was racist, sexist, etc, then your employer has a right to fire you as you are a representative of that company in many ways whether this was done in your "personal" life or not.

It's like Mel Gibson and his statements. Were they any more vile than Amber's as they seemed to me to be similar in their dislike and judgement of the Jewish community? Well, some movies, movie companies and others would not hire him after this happend. Was that also unfair? He is a public figure and a face for whatever employment he is doing even if these comments happened in his "personal" life, in his case while drinking. Amber put herself on TV and became a public figure by choice. If I were her employer, I also would have fired her.

Dentre
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09-19-2007

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dentre a private message Print Post    
I think it was the only move the casino could make involving Amber. What ever level of racism her remark was, it's too late now, she's the one who put it out there in the cosmos.

Dentre
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09-19-2007

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dentre a private message Print Post    
I'd be afraid she'd accidently insult customers or co-workers.

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
Look 5 posts up for more After Party pics.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
Saw them Milos... thank you again!

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Wonder why there was not the same outrage about Dani commenting about Asians being stingy? Just wondering.

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
She's no worse than Dick was....they all had their faults...gotta hold the others accountable for what they did if you do her.

Hope she can find another job. Must be hell going on BB and come out to find you lost the game AND your job.

Dentre
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09-19-2007

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dentre a private message Print Post    
Amber had a hand in the Asian remarks as well.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
Mssas... you are misinterpreting something. I am not holding her "accountable" her employer is and that is their choice just as it would be Dick's employer's choice if they fired him. One employer does not have to do what another does, it's their own choice based on their employment contract, state laws, and also if the employee has any contact with the public.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I don't really blame the casino for firing Amber, that is business, what I question is the glee I see in all the bad things that may happen to her.

Amber stikes me as someone who parrots what she hears without even understanding what she is saying. The comments she made were certainly out of line and she should be called to account. But you know, I sincerely believe that she is someone who can learn and be horrified at herself.

But there were other racist comments in that house. As I said earlier about Dani and Asians. Dick's comment to Jameka about not going Getto, Dustin's comments about his dog not liking black people.

While people commented on it at the time, there has not been the outrage that has been against Amber and yet everyone of those people are so much more knowledgeable than Amber, and should have known better. I just don't get the discrepancey.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I feel sorry for her because like someone already said, I don't think she understands. I think it was just her stupidity of the actual meaning of what she said. Maybe she could make a public apology after she figures out why what she said was wrong.
And yes, I think Dick should apologize for some of the things he said to Jen. He should apologize to her and her family & friends. Maybe after he watches the show, he will figure out why so many people were turned off by the vulgar remarks he made about her.

Buddeelove
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08-24-2007

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buddeelove a private message Print Post    
I think Amber needs to go to nursing school and she would be a good one.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Yes, Amber was there and agreed with Dani, but Dani was the one who said it. But has there been any outcry against Dani? Of course not.

Amber is being called to account. She will suffer for her comments, and perhaps will learn from them.

The others have not been called to account for their comments and will assume it is all O<.

And Dick? Heck, he gets rewarded with a half million dollars for his.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
Ugh, not sure I would want her as my nurse. That is a scary thought to be honest as I just don't see her good in a time of crisis.

I don't think her Jewish comments were said out of nativity or just stupidity or parroting as she was saying Jews are stingy or this and that. I think she was just dumb as heck by saying them when she did. I think the reason why they are catching attention in much more of a light is two-fold. First, Amber kept saying she was a good person and after all her comments regarding African Americans (laughing with the dog thing with Dustin), the asians with Dani, the Jewish comments she made and the lies, drug abuse etc she admitted to clearly showed she was not as "good" of a person as she claimed to be in many ways. Then you had CBS/BB who slammed the door on interviews the week Amber got out as they refused to let her be asked about them causing an uproar in the media community, so it just set a fire under the butts of journalists to confront her about it because of her own beliefs of herself and BB specifically restricting that HG from answering certain questions. That in and of itself created a hype.

Dentre
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09-19-2007

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dentre a private message Print Post    
So Amber gets a pass because she might not be too bright? That's not going to work. I don't think the Jewish Defense Organization will buy that.

Buddeelove
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08-24-2007

Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buddeelove a private message Print Post    
Amber said exactly what she thought about Jews and she meets many Asians at the place she worked at. I am glad she got fired. No room in America for her way of thinking!