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Victoryrm
Member
09-20-2007
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 7:53 pm
I'm just tired of the Amber explainations. I'm glad the media pinpointed her.
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:03 pm
Messalina, I agree with most of what you said in your post. Especially about that AMber does not really have any original thoughts. I think she typically parrots others. However, I do think that mentally there is a limited resource there. I have met people like that and actually worked with a gal like that. She was very good at what she did (executive assistant) but could not think outside the box at all. Never read a newspaper, book , watched the news. Great at taking direction and picking up what others said. Had a limited understanding of vocabulary but loved to learn new words and always asked when she didn't know. She was a really hard worker but made a lot of "social mistakes" and after a number of years I finally had to admit, there were limitations to what she could mentally handle. I think Amber is like this as well. I also never thought this was worth any media attention what so ever and it must have been a very slow news week. Paris was out of jail, Lindsay was back in rehab and Nicole outed her pregnacy. This became big news. Big deal.
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Messalina
Member
06-19-2005
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:07 pm
Compassion is a virtue devoutly to be wished for (loosely paraphrasing Will S.) and I'm glad to say I've tried to feel it for Amber as much as I wish she would learn how to feel it for others. I believe it is a learned response rather than an innate one. I could be wrong.
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Messalina
Member
06-19-2005
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:12 pm
Missyb, I think I know what you mean. I think the reason I am giving Amber credit for having the mental capacity to learn to be more introspective is that I understand the HGs have to pass some rigorous tests in order to be accepted for the show. She must have showed something on the Stanford-Binet or the MMPI that grabbed their attention. Well, I hope she learned something from all this.
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:14 pm
Mess, I think Dani was ripping about her once in the HOH saying how she only answered a couple of the math questions on one of the tests they were given. And, I'm not so sure that passing the test is a requiremnt to get into BB, I think it's for productions entertainment (to be honest).
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:18 pm
Your welcome, Seattlemom. I enjoyed reading your post, Messalina. I was very surprised they let her ask her sister who to vote for. So much for sequestering, lol. I don't think she did it at all for inside info; she really couldn't decide. So sad. It seems the family depends on each other a lot. I hope somehow this may make her want to further her education. She will have to study hard just to get a GED, but it's a start.
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Debra
Member
11-20-2003
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:21 pm
I remember Uggs being out when Janie wore them in season 6 and that Beau (who? lol) wouldn't let Janie bring them with her on Allstars (she brought her slippers anyway). So even though Janie and Dani are fashion concious - they didn't seem to care and wear their Uggs anyway. I have to admit I made fun of everyone when they first started wearing them and then I got a pair and I love them.
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Messalina
Member
06-19-2005
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:31 pm
Thanks, Cricket. One thing I keep remembering was how poised Amber was during her stint on POT. I know a lot of people with some very high IQs. (Haha. Some of my best friends are Mensa) and they would have been masses of quivering jello standing on that stage knowing they were on Prime Time TV as a "celebrity guest". She has steady nerves and focus she can dredge up from somewhere during times of stress that would fell an ordinary person. Bottom line? I think the girl needs intensive one on one sessions with a self-improvement guru. She might surprise us all.
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Lizziedi
Member
10-05-2005
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 9:16 pm
Just want to say that I've really enjoyed the posts here tonight about Amber. A very intelligent debate with various perspectives, and not any disagreement on the basic issues. I've really appreciated it, and found myself saying "oh yes, that's true . . . " to several posts. And I like the Dani fashion posts too. The truth is that boots & jeans really show off slender legs, regardless of fashion. Uggs in particular add bulk to the feet and emphasize the legs.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 9:31 pm
LOL Debra & Lizz. Maybe I should go get me a pair. Afterall, autumn starts in about 3 days.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 9:34 pm
Uggs are SO comfy.. I live in my boots all winter, especially around my unheated house, and Ugg has great slides that are lined in sheepskin and I wear various of those all summer. Fashion can't dictate what goes on my feet..
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 9:54 pm
Boberg...thanks for the link. Wasn't sure why until at the veeerrrry end I got to that alleged apology. Based on 3 months of watch BB combined with 20+ years of doing Public Relations I am willing to bet that the CBS PR dept worked for days, perhaps weeks, to come up with that reply and drilled it in to. When I read some of her other answers, I could "hear" Amber saying them. When I read that, not at all. Didn't sound like the way she speaks. The wording was too clear, the grammer was too good (sorry but I'm serious), and mostly the phrasing was wrong. So I am with a doubt convinced that is what they came up with to attempt to put out this fire. And Shops, ITA w/you too!!! (We can just go back and forth with that hehehe). If you recall that convo, Amber WASN'T mad! She wasn't loving Eric but she wasn't at the "I'm so mad I have no clue what I'm saying" type anger. They were having a very calm, gossipy chit chat. And as I posted several times when this happened, I was almost as annoyed with Jameka for this because 1) I am thinking she is aware of prejudice and how hurtful it is, 2) She knows better and 3) rather than try to educate Amber, who clearly was ignorant and VERY wrong about this, she just hmmmmmhmmmmmed her. I felt if Jam was a friend she would have tried to talk to her about it. Very sad all around. As for letting Amber off the hook based on ignorance, sorry. I will cut her some slack, I will try to be patient, but in today's day and age this isn't something everyone with a tv hasn't had some exposure to. The fact she said it with such intense insight and surity to me makes it all the worse. But I do agree with (Dang sorry forgot if it was Bo or someone else) who said she tends to parrot people. That article was the perfect example as she was now into the result being God's will, which was clearly Jameka's absurd (IMHO) opinion not hers. I hope she gets enough feedback to find someone to work with that will help her see why it is so important to understand this situation better and to learn your own mind! To summerize, bottom line wrong is still wrong, and what Amber said remains wrong IMHO. And that, to me, is a PR apology not a hearfelt one. JMHO.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 10:00 pm
Oh BTW Lizzie ITA...this is one of the first discussions all year where I've felt even those of use who disagree are being respectful, hearing each other, and taking some points from each other. Prejudice is SUCH a damn complicated issue, with so little clear cut right and wrong, that I think it's easy for there to be some truth in most of our viewpoints. Plus I think most know there is no winning this, and we can agree what she said is wrong, and discuss from a place of a basic shared belief on the big pictures, but some various thoughts on the rest of it. But it's been very nice to engage in an intelligent debate here!
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Victoryrm
Member
09-20-2007
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 10:08 pm
I'm not cutting the girl any slack and wish her no good will.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 10:12 pm
I can't figure why Dani wore the same black dress as Janelle. Didn't Janelle even have the dress in red...on Formal date night, didn't she wear the red one, and Erica borrowed the black? Also, cute pictures of the after pqrty. Thanks for the link t Moosies pictures...It looks as if Sarah has had a little enhancement since we ast saw her. Now looking too natural though...
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Pattie444
Member
07-03-2005
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 10:30 pm
I could be wrong but maybe Dani's dress was off the rack from the luxury challenge ?
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Lily7
Member
08-29-2007
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 10:38 pm
pictures?
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:45 pm
That's what I thought Pattie as I recalled her holding it up on the live feeds as she was going through her stuff. Just laughing though at so many jumping on this "faux pas" of wearing the same dress Janie may have had. LOL
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 2:39 am
http://iluvshania831.livejournal.com/161175.html Pictures from the wrap party.
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Sportsfan
Member
09-03-2007
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 4:25 am
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 4:39 am
Thanks, Milosmom! 
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 5:08 am
Could Dick be smiling ANY bigger?? LOL
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Ace232521
Member
09-09-2004
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 5:27 am
Uggs are so yesterday. And, Uggs in the summer were not EVEN yesterday. LOL
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 5:33 am
Well, they can just be yesterday on me... I slap them on and enjoy the comfort. I never did wear them in summer though. Love the pictures Milos.. thank you soooo much for sharing! I was lmao @ Jen only wanting people to take a picture with her from one side, guess since it was of her left side, it explains why she cried about her HG wall photo as it was from the right lmfao
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Fan3
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 6:40 am
the pictures were great. Thanks for finding them and posting.
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