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Vickielg
Member
08-10-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:34 am
I meant CBS.....lol}
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:42 am
When it comes to Jen, I have a difficult time with people saying she asked for verbal abuse, provoked it, and deserved it. I just don't believe anyone should be ganged up on by several other people merely b/c she is different (I feel the same way about Zach). I understand that Jen implied she did not want him to touch her when she said "do not be the scraper" the first episode. I can imagine it did hurt his feelings. However, it doesn't justify his intense dislike for her and the berating that came thereafter, IMO. Yes, Jen also put him on the block. What did he expect? He told her to off and no one wanted her around right before she won HOH and again thereafter...LOL. I agree that Jen had personal reasons for wanting to put Dani up, but she also saw both father/daughter being in the house together as a threat. It was only week 2 and she was already their biggest target. (Btw, I saw a video last night of Eric and Jen when she was HOH. They did seem to be working together and she even told him about MRA at that time...lol. Jen was not lying about that.) It's not like Jen didn't try to bond with other houseguests. She often tried to socialize, join group discussions, and even do girly girl things with Amber, Dani, etc. Sadly, I believe Dick made it difficult because he would tell her to go away, no one likes her, and then use smoking to accomplish it. Not one person stood up and told Dick to stop. They just let him be the voice of the house. In fact, some of the worst arguments between Dick and Jen thereafter stemmed from things that didn't even involve him, i.e. Jameka using the POV. And as we saw with Zach, he got mad when people defended her. I am not saying that Dick is responsible for other people's actions because he is not. Clearly, there were other houseguests that treated Jen terrible too (Eric). If the others didn't join in on the Jen bashing, they just laughed. I do not understand laughing at someone else's expense and never did find it entertaining. I often found myself wanting to reach through the screen and give her a hug. I really believe Jen is genuinely a good person who works hard to maintain a positive attitude. I also think she's misunderstood. I never saw her do anything so horrible that would make her negative experience there okay. She played a great game up until this week and could have been a great asset had someone been willing to work with her. This is why I feel so strongly and defensive of Jen .
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:50 am
Vickie, that seriously made me cry b/c it was so sweet. I am so glad to know that I am not the only one who feels such tremendous compassion and had hard time watching it all unfold. Thank you for posting that!!! Btw, I totally love this thread...LOL.
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Vickielg
Member
08-10-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:51 am
In agreement Klaw. 
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Vickielg
Member
08-10-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:59 am
Klaw, I have been trying to get this across since the first week of BB8. Sometimes I think when God passed out compassion, He gave me too much. I get so sad when I see people mistreated. I don't think that anyone is saying that Jen is a Saint or anything, do you? I know that she is not perfect but she in no way ever had a chance in that house. What disappoints me the most is that CBS let it happen and will continue to let it happen. All for ratings, right? Do you know who the Sponsor's are that advertise on BB8 during the show? I would like to know. I like this place too. Just feels safe and I don't have to worry about getting my head ripped off.
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Mssas
Member
08-04-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:00 am
Take Dick out of that house and I believe we would of had the Big Brother show we all love. I agree with all of the posts supporting Jen. It warms me to know that others feel as I do that this behavior, for whatever purpose, will not be tolerated in this world we live in. I hope he has security around when this is all said and done because I truly feel someone out there in this big bad world is going to literally *self mods* I knew Jen would come out of that house with a smile. I can't wait till the others come out and see just how "popular" they are. Never stop being you Jen and always keep SMILING! ETA: I agree with the statement above that Jen Won and They Lost. ABSOLUTELY!
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Sincebb1
Member
08-22-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:02 am
I agree...why...do some people make you feel that Jen would have to be Saint in order for it to be justifyed to defend her. Is there no middle ground?
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:07 am
Ditto, Vickie and Mssas. You're right, Since. No one is saying Jen was perfect, that she was completely innocent, or that she is a hero. Some times we just want to speak up for people who aren't able to do it themselves!!!
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:12 am
imo, it doesn't matter what jen did or didn't do - if dick was mad, then, yes, let her have it with both barrels. once. then move on. but he kept at it and kept at it and kept at it some more to the point where he became obsessed with her. and he's STILL obsessed with her. I'm glad to see his popularity poll decreasing and jen's increasing - I think he's in for a rude awakening when he gets out. I've TRIED to sit back and cheer, the way others do, but my conscience won't let me. Jen is a real person with real feelings.
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Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:13 am
Vickie - the sponsors and their contact info are all listed in another thread. I think the one about a letter to CBS? Hugs to you for all your compassion!
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Vickielg
Member
08-10-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:35 am
Thanks Sky, I'll go look for it. But for now, hubby just pulled in so I have to look busy...lol
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:36 am
words are funny. i didnt mean anything negative. what i was getting at was jen did sometimes stir the pot and i completely support her in that. she did grab at the cigarette and perhaps came darn close to crossing the physical line. and those are things most normal people would do. mother teresa likely would not. it is okay that jen defended herself. it is okay that she got fed up and nearly lost it at the end. i was also reacting to some stuff i had read about jen at the cbs chat threads. besmirching her reputation big time because of her video. again so what. she is not running for sainthood. that is what i meant.
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Messalina
Member
06-19-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:37 am
Kaykohl posted a link on the Current Happening Discussion thread. It is a link to an article on an MSNBC site. Everyone who supports Jen should read it. And even those who don't. Wow!
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Sincebb1
Member
08-22-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:41 am
Gidg I hope you don't think my post was in regard to what you said! I was talking about others in other threads.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:47 am
well i did since, since i brought it up most recently but i took no offense. we are all on the same side in this thread. i kinda laugh at the holier than thous who pick on her clothes and lifestyle. i may not like it but that is the way it is today. kids wear less clothes. their morality is not mine. and so it goes with every generation. but it seems as if some old puritan morality is applied to women when the mob needs some justification.
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Sincebb1
Member
08-22-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:52 am
SOOO sorry Gidg! I just realized we used the same "Saint" word and it occurred to me you might have thought I was talking to you! Just know right now I would never do that! I am sorry you felt that way even for a moment!
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:56 am
lol i would do it and have... takes all my restraint to stay out of trouble here sometimes. i guess i'm no saint.
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Sincebb1
Member
08-22-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:57 am
LOL Gidg. True to my nature I have gotten in trouble coming to the rescue of others!
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:58 am
Another Jen interview: http://asapblogs.typepad.com/theslug/2007/08/chatting-with-j.html
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:01 am
Don't forget to watch HCs...on in a few :-)
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:11 am
i said it early on. i wished i'd had jen's maturity and restraint at her age. hell i wish i had it at my age.
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Danzdol
Member
04-21-2001
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:15 am
no problem Sky.....;) It's all good....
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Ch3j0r
Member
07-21-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:32 am
HA! A lot of us KNEW Nick tried to kiss Jen before the feeds started...Come on BB...Find that footage!
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:35 am
I am proud of Jen. Some of my feelings against her have changed. Still don't like some of the things she said, but glad to see she doesn't hold grudges and is calm. She would be surprised at how frenzied all of this has gotten out of the house.
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Vickielg
Member
08-10-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:54 am
I got to see half of Housecalls but what I did see was great. I wish some of her friends or Family would come in here so we could tell them how much we love Jen. She did great and I had a sneaking suspicion that Nick DID try to kiss her....
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