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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 1:34 pm
Oh btw per the earlier comments, I always laugh at how much folks make and interpret into that butter thing w/Dick and Jen. My feeling is it ONLY had to do with someone publicly dissing you in a horrid fashion as Jen did to Dick, in front of the house like that when the game had JUST started. If a guy I had NO interest in at all made a comment that I was "too gross to touch ewwwwww" in a comp, and said it so everyone heard, I could assure you I would not like them, their style nor want anything to do with them again. Plus they were teammates and allegedly supposed to work together so she was doing more than insulting Dick, she was selling out her team! I don't see any more than that here. Also, I had a feeling Dick and Janie would hit it off...I said all season I wish Dick had made it in Season 6 and I think he would have been a Sov and we would have had a VERY different outcome. Janie knows how to deal with a guy like Dick, won't take his crap, and make it so he doesn't want to give her any lol. I hope they do become great friends and I'd LOVE to see them on TAR!!!! I have a feeling they would be a RIOT together!
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 1:55 pm
I was pretty much predisposed to not like Jen because of her early behaviour and because Boogie claimed her as the Chilltown "ringer". I came to admire the classy way she handled Dick's abuse and her rebellion against BB, which had stood by and done nothing to stop Dick's terrible behaviour. But all that is beside the point. The point is that the game is over and Dick still can't stop with the abuse- calling her "crusty c*nt" at Sucks and attacking her fans. He won- why should he care? It seems to drive him crazy that she isn't universally hated the way he predicted. He isn't talking on and on about the other hgs -even Eric who he has much more cause to be pissed at because of the incest comment. Seems a bit obsessive to me.
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Holly
Member
06-19-2005
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 2:16 pm
Wow! I can't believe some of the vile names that man comes up with. I've heard enough!
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 2:58 pm
as long as his 'fans' continue to egg him on and accept this, he's gonna continue ...
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 3:24 pm
As long as Jen's "fans" taunt him over there, he will post.
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Victoryrm
Member
09-20-2007
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 3:31 pm
Good for Dick.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 4:34 pm
Shopstomuch and Seamonkey, I think you both said with your last post what I have been thinking the whole time, thank you for being better at writing it down, lol.
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Laralyn
Member
08-04-2005
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 5:17 pm
stops, are you talking about when jen's bikini top broke in the kitchen as she was reaching for something?? that was an accident, and she was embarrassed.
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Cmist
Member
09-20-2005
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 5:29 pm
I doubt that Jen was actually embarassed. She was seeking just the attention she got. I give her credit for being smarter than that. She was nearly naked with her bottoms half off from putting the mic battery on them in the back and knowing full well the top was tied loosely. Duh I wander what will happen if I try to reach up into the highest shelf now. Hmmmmmmm oh yeah my top will fall off and I will tee hee hee and ask for help. Jen knew exactly what she was doing.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 5:44 pm
It may have been an accident, but Jen perfectly relished in the moment. SHe even forgot to take her top with her when she was leaving the SR, and Jameka picked it up and call her back for it.
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Mssas
Member
08-04-2006
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 5:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc83k57fVD4 I totally love this youtube...great job! Make sure you read the right up to the right!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 6:16 pm
Jen alienated the other houseguests, and especially Dick, from the first moment they entered the house. (She apparently did not want to share her room, let alone a bed, with Dick. She apparently judged Dick on looks alone.) If you listen again to the goodbye messages that Jen received from the remaining HGs, you'll see that she was NOT well liked the first weeks. In fact, at least two people told her that.
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Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 6:22 pm
Well maybe if Dick hadn't hidden all of Jen's clothes she would have had something else to wear. Also I thought we already discussed in the butter incident how Jen didn't say that about Dick in front of everyone, she just said it to Kail.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 6:23 pm
I don't even know why there is a debate. Just watch the refeeds. Jen acts weird and the others are all put off by it. None of it has to do with Dick.
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Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 6:39 pm
I watched the feeds the first time around. I'm certainly not about to spend my time watching them again now that the show is over. Too many other good shows starting! :o) Even if you watch the feeds 24/7 they still only show one or two rooms at a time and a lot is missed. You will never know the full story. The butter comp is on youtube.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 6:53 pm
I don't know about anybody else, or your ages, or experiences. I only speak for myself. I viewed Jen just as I viewed all the other people in the house. Jen is old enough to be my daughter......so thats how I viewed people. I would look at her and what she heard thrown at her verbally. If she was my daugher, I would hurt deeply for her and feel how cruel people were being to her. I would probably have called Allison Grodner Productions, but I doubt I would be able to influence them to make Dick in particular stop with his verbal attacks on her. I would also struggle as a mother, knowing she is also an adult, and trying to decide whether I would cross a line, in calling AG Produc. Its a catch22. But I can definitely state, if she was my daughter and I heard a man twice her age hurling the vulgarities at her without justification, it would almost kill me. Especially knowing that was my child, and millions of viewers were probably getting the wrong impression of her. That is the perspective from which I viewed the attacks on Jen. And it sickens me to know it continues, almost a week after the "game" has ended.
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 6:57 pm
Actually no, I am not talking of towards the end when the shoulder strap DID actually break then. The time I referred to was as I said... in hot tub the first time and then the 2nd was when she pranced around in a towel as my post stated if you read it, I descried the exact incidents as the last time was actually an accident.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:00 pm
Loppes, I don't at all argue that anybody should feel bad for how Jen was treated. I really don't and I was terribly uncomfortable with some of what happened. My only point is she is a bit a strange. I'm not sure anybody knew how to react to her except to ostracize her. Also, I have had superpass year around for 4 years...never cancelled. For me to tune in for a few mins, or for anybody else, certainly doesn't signify there aren't better things for us watch or that we don't have better things to do. Tuning in for a few mins here and there for the refeeds are the same as tuning into my fav online radio station while I surf.
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:00 pm
Loppes, more than likely if you were her daughter then she would not have cared so little for you that she took your picture off the wall hopefully. Also, these incidents I am referring to had ZERO to do with when Dick hid her clothes.. these happend when Nick was still in the house. Also, she did tell Dick to not touch her as he said fine, then you make sure you are no where near where the butter has to be gotten off when I am doing it then. So, yes she did say it to him also.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:07 pm
As I said, I speak only as a mother, and if she was my daughter...Taking down my picture off the wall I could understand.....but the verbal attacks to the extent she received then, I wouldn't understand. Not if they came from a person who was old enough to be her father. On the same note, as a "mother" I would not particularly like some of the language Eric used, or the amount of drinking Jessica perhaps did, or how much Amber cried, how much Dani whined...etc. Maybe Daniele's mother made the smartest decision, wherein she refused to sign a waiver that her name could be mentioned. Perhaps that is the best way...for contestants.
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Cmist
Member
09-20-2005
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:10 pm
Jen had her Unitard. She also had some other clothes she had hidden in Ambers drawers. SHe also was wearing some of Ambers clothes. If she hadn't gone balistic and tried to destroy Dicks property she wouldn't have been looking for her clothes. Yikes for Jen cigs were definatly dangerous to her health. Mental health that is. In all fairness Dick was an alpha male and Jen was an alpha female and they were probably cast for that very reason. Jen just chose the wrong path to defeat him. Aggressiveness is not the way to win over or defeat a guy like Dick. As a matter of fact, I believe Jen really alienated most of the houseguests in one way or another. Bottom line she didn't really have a clue how to play the game. She only came on BB to hopefully further her career. I hope it works for her.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:15 pm
Jen certainly didn't seem like an alpha female except in her own mind. She could barely form fully coherent sentences in any kind of stressed situation. I truly hope she can make it in modelling, but anything with a speaking part surely is out of her realm.
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Cmist
Member
09-20-2005
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:21 pm
Very good point there Naja. I overlooked that fact even thought it was painfully obvious whenever she had to speak more that 3 words. A collection of her great speeches would make a nice tribute clip.
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:25 pm
Yeah, the gag reel of her DR's were really bizarre. She stuttered and mumbled around in them and to think those were the ones we did not see...
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Victoryrm
Member
09-20-2007
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:34 pm
Jen signed a contract in which I'm sure was the warning that HGs may well be the target of verbal attacks in the house. This is standard contracting and they all signed knowing this could happen and in all likely-hood would. Next year the new HGs will sign the same thing. BB and CBS cover their own behinds before the HGs ever enter the house.
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