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Who Would have got your Vote?

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Loppes
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07-12-2002

Monday, September 24, 2007 - 5:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
Eric would have been my vote, hands down. To have accomplished 21 out of 27 tasks, it goes without question, no other HG this season would have been able to do that, let alone any other season. There is no POV or any other comp through the whole of Big Brother, that I feel was more difficult for any person who's been on BB.

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Monday, September 24, 2007 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
correction meant to say 21 out of 28 tasks

Muse
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08-09-2001

Monday, September 24, 2007 - 6:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Muse a private message Print Post    
I would have voted for Eric. My votes were usually for what would benefit him, anyway.

Tide
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08-11-2006

Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 2:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tide a private message Print Post    
I would vote Eric to win. I think he did a pretty good job even when he didn't agree with the task at hand.

Actually, my vote would have been ABD (Anybody But Dick).

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 5:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Eric would have gotten my vote.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 11:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Who played the best game is a matter of opinion.

I really dont know what would have happened if Eric made it to the finals.

I've brought this up before but.....Eric was doing what the Majority of the Votes told him to.

Like any Civic Election with many choices (6-8 people), the actual winning Vote could be as little as 20% of the population.

many times i felt that the "America's Choice" seemed unlikely...but then again if a win was 20%, that means 80% of us did NOT want the person to be up for eviction {or whatever

Week after week the majority of Voters did not get their choice and then Eric was the natural target of displeasure.

I personally feel anyone against Eric and the end would have won.

Just my opinion

Mack
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07-23-2002

Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 4:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mack a private message Print Post    
I would really like to see the votes by week and topic to see how it really ran. Really doesn't make much difference in the final outcome obviously but it would be interesting. My notion is that it was very clear cut and the votes were not typically split over more than two or three people for nomination challenges. Of course the "silly" tasks could have been all over the board. Eviction votes can only be between two but it still would be interesting to see how the percentages/numbers ran.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
No way would Dick have gotten my vote! Early on his personal habits (constant spitting and farting)and lack of parental boundaries disgusted me, add to that Dicks vile, sexual rants, that had nothing to do with the game, made him useless as a human being to me.

While Eric has his own faults, if I had to choose between the two, I see Eric as the lesser of the evils, so he would have gotten my vote.

Strategy and game play wise, if Eric had made it to F2, he would have totally outplayed Dick, especially when you consider how much harder being AP made his game.

No doubt about it, Eric would have deserved to win.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
About the voting, it's always majority rules, so whether it was 50%,60%,2% or whatever, it was the majority and should be treated as such. I have found it difficult to accept things in voting situations that I didn't necessarily agree with in real life, and that's just the way it goes. The most votes is the most votes.

It's hard to speculate who else may have been voted for if Final Two had been anyone else besides Dick and Daniele.

I would imagine the jury would have voted for anyone who was opposite either of them. But, had it been, say, Zach and Jameka in F2 I wonder who AP would have gone to then, as Zach ultimately played a stronger game, but Jameka had the most friends.
Who would America have chosen?

I do feel that the two strongest players in the game ended up as F2...so I have no problem that one of them won. Eric was also one of the strongest players in terms of manipulation, but couldn't really pull it out in comps.

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
Dick all the way. He played the best game whether you liked him or hated him. Eric, IMO, would not have lasted more than a couple of weeks had he not been AP.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 3:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
When you are speaking about the jury vote at the end it is based on the majority.

America's Choice for the most part was very likely based on a plurality. That is why it is confusing and most likely inaccurate for people to suggest that the America's Choice results indicate that most fans preferred Dick. Dick may have had the most fans of any one contestant but it is unlikely that he had the majority. The majority of the fans probably preferred someone other than Dick.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 3:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Yes, Jimmer...a plurality, which ultimately becomes a majority. Even when broken down into percentages, it still remains that whoever had the majority percentage got the vote.

In real life, this could be the case of a school board seat, or a judge position.
The majority of the plurality is who gets the votes. So even though that person may not have been my choice, or his percentage may have been close to the next one's, it still, ultimately, is the majority.

(I think I've had too much coffee. lol)

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 3:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
I look at it as the majority of the votes were spread out among the other players. Dick just happened to have the highest percentage of any of the individual players who made up the majority of the vote.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 4:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
And that means that Dick had a plurality of the votes and not necessarily the majority. The only time we can be sure that Dick had the majority of the votes was at the end against Daniele.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, September 28, 2007 - 1:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
i love math. My math is correct if 20% are for, 80% are against.

when six HGs were voted on for whom the Public wanted evicted and the numbers were split. it is very probable that the majority of voters were not satisfied.

The majority of the plurality is who gets the votes. So even though that person may not have been my choice, or his percentage may have been close to the next one's, it still, ultimately, is the majority

In my example 80% are unhappy. realistically it makes no difference whether the America's Choice is truly 'the majority' as it is based only on votes for, not against.

I am looking at it mathematically based on WHY viewers/ voters may not have Voted for Eric at the end.

IF BB is going to have us vote next year, I hope it is done without a person actually in the house swaying the vote. it would keep things unpredictable.





Happymom
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01-20-2003

Friday, September 28, 2007 - 8:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
My vote would have gone to Eric. I am in the category of vote for anyone but Dick.

I am glad the season is over. I hope to never see a Dick personality again on BB.

Nick
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07-31-2004

Friday, September 28, 2007 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
eric - don't even have to think about it

Gemini42
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08-01-2007

Friday, September 28, 2007 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gemini42 a private message Print Post    
My vote would still have been for Dick!!!

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 10:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Eric without a doubt...

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 3:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
Happymom summed it up perfectly. I totally agree. Eric by miles. I'll be so glad when Dick's 15 minutes is up and I never see or hear of him again. I hope next season we have some people worth rooting for.

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 6:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
Still Dick!

Ramiro
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09-13-2007

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 8:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ramiro a private message Print Post    
I have suggested it in past seasons <57> before the America's Player twist. The way to really make the game interesting, mix things up in the house and give America a say is that the HoH nominates ONLY ONE houseguest and goes in the diary room and is told who America wants nominated. The HoH then informs the houseguests at the ceremony. This brings into play several scenarios
1) Will the America's Choice nominee believe the HoH or think that the HoH is just using the America's nominee as a cop out (think about it this year America nominates Amber and when Jessica tells her that, no way would Amber believe it she would be certain she was loved and Jessica was lying)
2) How do you get out of an alliance or a "swear" that you will never nominate someone "oh I didnt nominate you, America did"
This twist would give America a say every week (without ruining one players game) and the fact that ONLY the HoH is told who America's nominee is gives the HoH room to backstab and make side deals and it also leaves a real distrust among every alliance as no nominee would ever truly know if they were put up by HoH or by America.
Another thing I would like to see is for PoV ONLY a person who competed in PoV should be eligible to be put up as replacement (this would stop the backdooring and stop players who throw the PoV)
Just my 2 cents

Ezgoing
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07-18-2003

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 8:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ezgoing a private message Print Post    
Still would have voted for Dick :-).

Cmist
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09-20-2005

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cmist a private message Print Post    
All hail the best BB player. Dick Donato!!!

Gemini42
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08-01-2007

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 3:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gemini42 a private message Print Post    
Amen to that Cmist!!!!

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
Ramiro...interesting idea but I am sure the HOH would spill the beans some way or the other. lol

"Houseguests, you are not allowed to talk about your diary room sessions with other houseguests!

yep, that works...lol

Ramiro
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09-13-2007

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ramiro a private message Print Post    
It does not matter if HoH spills the beans or not.
It is about the nominees BELIEVING the HoH
Do you think ANY HoH could have convinced Amber that she was chosen by America?
Plus when the HoH wants to backstab an ally all they have to do is say "sorry I did not nominate you, America did"
Thats the fun of it, ONLY the HoH knows who America has chosen. This would lead to general distrust between all houseguests.
The HoH just names the nominees with the key ceremony, he can tell them which one was America's choice and which his own. But he can lie and the house guests can believe or maybe not believe (even if HoH tells truth.
Adds another layer of strategy
Keeps America involved
Plus does not ruin one players entire game.