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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother VIII - 2007 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 11: Any Jen Love (Fan Thread): Archive through August 24, 2007 users admin

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Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Vickielg, not all of Dick's fans condone his behavior. I've liked Jen's game play and I've like Dick's game play, neither have sat on the sidelines. To answer your question "what kind of person Dick fans are" I think we are people who enjoy a fight, even if we don't like the rules per say. I don't think there is anything evil about us, nor do I think any of the houseguests are evil. Jen played hard and I give her credit, she just let herself be outplayed. The reactions of both her and Dick only prove to me that they are more alike than many of thier fans would like to believe. She has my thanks for making this season a fun one.

Vickielg
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08-10-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vickielg a private message Print Post    
I don't think I siaid that his fans were evil. Just wondering what kind of person would support him. But I do think that he is evil. That's his name....it must be true.

Sincebb1
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08-22-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sincebb1 a private message Print Post    
I do not think Jen and Dick are alike.

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
I think Endemol should revoke the rights to the name Big Brother from CBS - this isn't the show that Endemol envisioned. imo.

Klaw73
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08-21-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Klaw73 a private message Print Post    
Wow, did anyone watch the rest of the Early Show with Jen? Eating was spontaneous, she regrets it, and is disappointed in herself.

Slinkydog
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11-30-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Slinkydog a private message Print Post    
Jen did look stunning last night! Here's to much happiness and success in her future!

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Sincebb1, don't you think they both have a vindictive side? Maybe it's just me, but again I loved her game play and it's too bad she couldn't have held it together a little longer.

I'm sorry Vikielg, when asked "what kind of person would support him", followed by "I thought everyone would want to get rid of evil", I just assumed that was what you meant.

I think there are some of us who support both types of players and still don't condone all of their actions. In my case it's never been you gotta love one and hate the other..they are both gamers and I like both of their play in different ways.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Klaw

she had to hide the real reasons (BB does not want to be exposed by their own players), and scare tactics (your career will be ruined) made her reconsider.

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
Danzdol - SORRY!!!!!! I was just barely awake ths morning and still in such a sad and distraught mood over this whole Jen stuff and I came right away to this thread and didn't really read much before seeing people saying this was a Jen love thread and I mistakenlly thought the comment about how a thread was popular because people are so split over the issue or something and jumped to the wrong conclusion! I am SO sorry! I was just so mad last night when people against Jen jumped into the other thread titled something like being sad and upset over Jen leaving (which I don't even see listed now???). I am so sick of what I feel is unfairness to Jen. Anyone else in a really cranky mood today? Waking up to see Amber as AP choice just further deepened my despair.

Again - So VERY sorry Danzdol!!!! Hugs!!!

Vickielg
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08-10-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vickielg a private message Print Post    
Thank you Klaw for the link to the Julie/Jen interview. I was looking in the wrong place.

Sincebb1
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08-22-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sincebb1 a private message Print Post    
EM No.Really I do not think Jen has a mean bone (or a vindictive bone) in her body. I think she was pushed beyond belief and had a moment of frustration. Dick has been non stop in his actions, not just to her. I am not saying this to disagree with you. I really see Jen as kind and patient. I would have gone batty way sooner.

Vickielg
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08-10-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vickielg a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the input Earthmother. I am afraid that the majority of Dick fans wouldn't be a civil as you. I am just soooo turned off by people like Dick that I really was wondering who would defend him. I too like the game to be shaken up every once in a while. I mean, watching beer pong and four hour naps is pretty boring but it can be done with out harming people. Just me wondering!!! I do alot of that.

Now, I must get some work done this morning if it kills me....

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
outside the house:
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/earlyshow/main500202.shtml

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
i agree since. i would have gone batty. by day two they would have needed emergency dentistry in the bb house.

i am a huge jen fan and wish she could have gone all the way. i wish her luck in her future and sincerely hope we will see more of her.

but...

she is not a saint and when we fans try to portray her that way we add fuel to her detractors fires. the same thing was done with janie. awesome girl but no mother teresa.



Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
Look for the post by MarcC99 on this page.., I think it sums up what a lot of people on this thread think (some strong language)

Vickielg
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08-10-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vickielg a private message Print Post    



This is from TWOP's Mark and its so dead on that I needed to reprint it here:


For most of the season, the emphasis has been on what Jen has done wrong. What could she do to make all those people hate her? Why didn't she react more when she was being abused? What's going on with her?

The people in the house who were closest to normal, like Carol, Mike, and Kail, were the people who had no problems with Jen.

The people in the house who constantly judge Jen based on her career and her lifestyle are washed-up bartenders, Hooters waitresses, and antisocial freaks who sit around talking about the times they crap their pants.

These wastes of skin needed someone to tear apart in order to make themselves feel human. Did Jen give off a bad vibe? Was she not social enough? Probably. But she never, not once, warranted the kind of treatment she received from these vermin.

I would normally not want to be this judgmental, but since they talk about wanting to hear neck bones snapping, or wanting to rape corpses, I might as well.

These people are losers in life. Daniele, Eric, Dick, along with most of the others, are losers. They're failures. No amount of money or sympathetic editing will change that. They're ugly inside and out, and they create their own misery. They hate themselves. They'll never be happy.

What does make them happy?

Making other people feel as worthless as they feel.

Jen isn't a robot. She was broken by them. She could barely form words during all her exit interview. Even Julie Chen, who has never bothered to take the feelings of the hamsters into consideration, seemed to realize what was going on and treated her gently (for Julie Chen).

So they won. They can feel proud. They can spend day after day of the rest of this once-in-a-lifetime experience talking about how fat and ugly and pathetic she is, and how she's secretly a man and how they want to rape her in the butt until she bleeds to death, and other wonderful statements.

What will Jen be doing? She'll probably cry, and wonder what she ever did to make people hate her to such an unhealthy level. Hopefully, she'll then rest, relax, and when this nightmare is over, she'll go back to the family and friends who are there for her and she'll realize how many fans she has out there. Do you know how many different message boards, with such different types of people, came to support Jen? Do you know of anyone else in BB history who became incredibly popular with fans in spite of a negative, mocking edit, in spite of a propaganda machine that constantly favored her enemies in the house, in spite of never having a chance to speak her mind or have allies who would defend her?

I hope Jen realizes that this experience was not about anything she did wrong, but about what she did right. That her being a beautiful, confident young woman was what led to her downfall, and that while she, like everyone else, is imperfect, she needs to appreciate herself and what she brings to life.

She's a winner.

They're losers.

Vickielg
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08-10-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vickielg a private message Print Post    
The above post was on the NBC message board. I hope it was okay to post it here. I thought it explained a lot.

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
all I can say to that is Amen.

Vee
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02-23-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vee a private message Print Post    
Even though Jen is gone, I am still continuing to vote for her in the polls: CBS polls. Since Evel Dick's fans continue to vote, perhaps we can provide some balance.

Thanks, Wilsonatmd, for the link to MarcC99's post. It serves quite nicely as a cathartic post that I would like to make if I knew that it would be allowed here. Ha!

Guinevere
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03-15-2001

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Guinevere a private message Print Post    
I still support Jen and will vote for her in the poll. I don't feel that she "lost" or that being outlasted by her tormenters means that they are righteous and better than her. I fully believe that she will have a successful life, because she is, as she says, a positive person. Contrast that to Daniele, who can never be happy for two minutes in a row, or Dick and Eric, both of whom are so full of bile and hatred. Winning BB will not help those three; they all need a lot more help than money could possibly give them.

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
lol i'll take an order of wings and get that skinny butt moving pronto!

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
Vee - I'm still voting for Jen too. I feel that is one way we can still show our support for her. If her ratings stay up even though she is gone it will send a message to the world - and to Jen so she knows we love her and care about her.

Sammy
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08-21-2007

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sammy a private message Print Post    
was dick ever punished for the cig thing? that really seemed to push the limits in my opinion. He knew what he was doing and it was done to hurt her---she may have egged it on a bit but after all she went thru ---then that? I think that was the breaking point for her....it took a lot longer for her to break than the others....
Dick lost his when he thought his precious little daughter was going home or himself---he broke and messed with the HG food? NOTHING...
Even during exit interviews Julie questions his behavior towards the leaving guests...you almost feel her disgust with him.....

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
If you haven't seen the extended Julie Chen interview with Jen, there is a separate thread for that. I (pathetically <sigh>) tried to transcribe the one that was on the Early Show this morning and that is a few pages back. The extended interview is great. Jen, smiling and laughing, the Jen we all like. She took the experience for what it was worth, and doesn't say one mean thing about anyone else.

Vickyfla
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06-29-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vickyfla a private message Print Post    
I love Jen! I thought she looked real pretty on the Early Show.