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Suzsmarmie
Member
07-26-2005
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 11:23 am
Thanks Jen, Ecoop, and Allie; I already heard over and over everything you all said about Dick, I simply didn't see or hear discussion to the same extent about Zach's comments.
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Ecoop
Member
07-07-2005
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 11:28 am
Because Zach's comments were made weeks ago. I don't recall all the outrage at the time, except about his party story. And, as I've already explained, none of Zach's comments compare, at least in my view, to what Dick has said/done.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 11:29 am
Perhaps because Zach's comments were relatively mild and harmless compared to the things Dick said. It is the difference between getting bumped by a bicycle and getting run over by a train.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 11:33 am
I heard Zach's recent comment about hoping Dick wins the money and then falls over dead. He is no angel. Of course that was before his "conversion" that his own relatives says was fake.
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Ecoop
Member
07-07-2005
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 11:34 am
Pinch, poke, you owe me a coke, Allietex.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 11:49 am
And why is that Ecoop? Milosmom, that is not a nice thing to say, I admit, but it has been said over and over by Dick about various houseguests, and at least Zach did not want to rape his dead body like Dick said about one of the women. No one has claimed that Zach is an angel. There are none in that house, and I venture to say there are none on this board. I have certainly been ashamed of things I have said, but I guarantee nothing, nothing I have ever said or even thought has come close to Dick. The attempt to claim that any of the houseguests' comments including Zach and Eric's discussion of inscest is anywhere close to the verbal garbage that Dick has vomited out this season is pretty much of a stretch and it really is when it comes to Zach.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 11:52 am
As far as the comments by Zach, he never said he ever did any of that, he was commenting on things he has heard about. To me it was more an attempt to fit in with some of the gross things the others have said than anything else, but it just wasn't accepted by the others. If Eric or Dick had said them everyone would probably have laughed and thought how clever it was.
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Suzsmarmie
Member
07-26-2005
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 11:54 am
Well, at least Zach hasn't called ED a liar; I'll give him that. So, in effect, he's not disagreeing with WHAT Dick is saying, it's HOW Dick is saying it, I guess. Seems more likely somebody could sneak off and munch panties in a house full of people..lol.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:01 pm
Allie...Zach said he was there and participated.
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Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:03 pm
well why not do this: 1. post the clips of the full conversations that took place when zach said these things (i believe he made the two comments) so the entire context can be seen 2. i'd love to see/read the article/clip of zach's relatives saying his faith thing isn't true.. first i'd heard someone say that.. better to be able to see these things so we can determine our own opinions on the full context i do know i've seen the full context of dick's rants.. over and over and over again.. and i just sincerely doubt that nothing zach or anyone else in that house has said/done compares anywhere near his vile behavior.. but i certainly would love to see the other stuff..
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:04 pm
Allietex, a nasty comment is a nasty comment. It doesn't make is less nasty just because someone else said a worse one.
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Tracy
Member
07-16-2007
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:04 pm
I just tried to watch Housecalls and it's still the Holly episode. I enjoy Holly but I don't like Gretchen. She speaks to slowly and that gets on my nerves. If she can't handle a daily show she shouldn't have the job. I liked her with Marcellus.
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Kidsatm
Member
07-08-2005
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:07 pm
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:08 pm
Nick, it was an interview. I don't have the link but I did see it.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:11 pm
A nasty comment is a nasty comment but some comments are nastier than other comments. Also the frequency and context is very relevant.
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:11 pm
Milos ... I just PMed you!
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:12 pm
I saw it too. I hope someone can throw it up here for those that didn't. It was his cousin...and he said the religiousity stuff was all strategy. In the house, I recall Zach saying he is an atheist.
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Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:15 pm
i thought it was dick that said he was an atheist.. and i'd just like to see the context of the other comments.. it's not like zach just out of the blue said he was a panty muncher.. there was context and he was with people in a conversation.. since we have all the context of dick's rants.. i'd just like to see the context of zach's comments.. i think that's fair..
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:18 pm
In some circles, being a panty muncher is actually considered a good thing.....
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:20 pm
Words are legal, threats are not. I'm pretty sure Dick threatened to kill Jen when she leaves the house. Or at least put a boot up her ass. Threats are not legal. I read the article from Zach's cousin. He said that. I think it was on Joker's. Could be strategy, could be true. I don't think his cousin has talked to him in 3 months so he really doesn't know for sure.
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Suzsmarmie
Member
07-26-2005
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:22 pm
Dear Lord, please don't let me find those circles. Bless you Lord. Amen.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:22 pm
But we know better from watching him on feeds?
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Sinatra71
Member
08-22-2007
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:23 pm
This dialogue going on is incredible. It's a testament to the popularity of this show. I love it.
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:24 pm
Most criminal lawyers would tell you, I think, that just saying the words isn't illegal. There has to be a "proven" intent to do harm, which is a very difficult thing to prove if the person isn't brandishing a gun or otherwise acting in a threatening manner (i.e. in this case with Dick it would mean being physical).
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:26 pm
I never said we knew better. I'm saying, he doesn't know as he hasn't spoken to him in at least 3 months. Jeanne, Dick was standing over Jen screaming at her when he made those comments. I would consider that a threatening manner.
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