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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:33 am
There have been many discussions here about what the AP twist really meant. Some believe Eric was there soley to do America's bidding, some say America voted and played against Eric, some say America's votes should have helped Eric further himself in the game. Many versions of what WE thought AP was suppose to be. Question: If Eric and Dick were the Final 2...who would have been your vote for Winner of the Game and why?
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Neosporen
Member
08-18-2005
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:57 am
ED, I couldn't stand Eric from the beginning. To Shifty....
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Goldsam
Member
07-21-2005
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 8:09 am
Eric would've definitely got my vote. If he was able to successfully make it to the end despite not making many of his own decisions, there would've been a lot of skill involved in that. btw...I think Eric has really gotten a bad wrap this season. He did what he had to do even when America wasn't playing out the game in his best interests. I really had hoped America would embrace their player and work with him and for him to the very end. I do believe that Dick played a strategically strong game and the best Donato won.
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Nana731
Member
07-06-2005
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 8:15 am
ITA Goldsam.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 8:26 am
Since I saw Eric and us as a team trying to win, yeah, I would have voted for Eric to win, just like my votes went to help Eric move further in the game throughout the game. IMO, America wasn't even playing the game. If we were, the Donatos would have been history early on- at least one or the other of them. Splitting solid alliances is the name of the game and there has never been a more solid alliance IMO. We don't deserve to play anymore.
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Sportsfan
Member
09-03-2007
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 9:05 am
Dick, I just could not get into Eric, If he was not AP I would not have paid him any attention at all except to say "Gross" once in a while!
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Merrysea
Member
08-13-2004
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 9:34 am
I would have voted for Dick. An alliance member is supposed to go along with the majority of his alliance; Eric was supposed to be playing for us, we weren't playing for him. (But I didn't want to see Eric in the final two because I wanted a vote in the end!)
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 9:47 am
This sort of question leads me to make additional assumptions in order to answer it. For Eric to be at the end with Dick, Eric would have had to do some serious work in the last few challenges and make some pretty gutsy plays, in the process of getting rid of Daniele. It wasn't like he would have been there because they wanted him there. If we add the above onto the rest of his game play, I would think that Eric would be deserving of the win.
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Scribe
Member
08-16-2000
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 10:47 am
Eric would never have gotten to F2 sicne he couldnt do anything in the challenges - but had they been teh F2 - wouldve voted Dick absolutely.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 11:23 am
There is another assumption... if Eric was in Final 2, America wouldn't have had a vote. And without AP, I doubt if Eric would've made it as far as he did (the DR really saved him when he was up for eviction and I think they did so in order to preserve their twist). If I also assume that there was no AP, and Eric someone did manage to make it to F2 with Dick, then... I vote to evict Eric. I vote for Dick to win. Besides the fact that I really liked Dick, I absolutely did not like Eric. I dunno if I would've liked him without the arrogance of being AP. But what I saw, from the beginning, I wasn't a fan of.
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Victoryrm
Member
09-20-2007
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 11:58 am
Boy oh boy. Me too. So much arrogance on Eric's part.
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Chicogirl
Member
07-23-2007
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 12:10 pm
I still would have voted for Dick to win. Eric just wasn't a personality I cared for. His ego kept getting in the way IMO.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 1:22 pm
Another Dick vote here. Had it not been for the incestuous comments, I might have struggled more with it. As much as he totally annoyed me on a variety of levels, I do feel he was strategically impressive at playing the game. But just as some say Dick crossed a line and they can't support him, to me Eric crossed a more offensive line with those multiple comments (since it had NO strategic purpose and was pure mouthing off inappropriately IMHO). Plus there were times Dick was just plain fun and amusing to me(ah the good old Dick at Night times), and enjoyable to watch. Plus he organized so much of the early fun in the house too. I don't recall Eric ever amusing me much, aside from the night he moved in the DR and we were guessing the ways he was cursing out America lolol.
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Mammyyokum
Member
06-05-2005
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 1:38 pm
We would not have had a vote, but I'd prefer that Eric win over Dick.
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 2:28 pm
Dick...I loved him as a player...
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Monday, September 24, 2007 - 8:21 am
Chippy, I saw the AP twist as you did. I thought we were a team with the AP and the challenge was to get our team to a win. Alas, it seems more people/voters saw Eric as only a TOOL to be used to further the game of the Donatos, making them an alliance of three instead of two.
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Dke1212
Member
07-13-2005
| Monday, September 24, 2007 - 8:43 am
Well, if I'm going to back a player, I would prefer it was someone of my choosing. I saw Eric as working for America (that is also how it was advertised). I would've voted for Dick no matter who he was against.
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Mack
Member
07-23-2002
| Monday, September 24, 2007 - 10:06 am
Since I didn't warm to Eric at the beginning I never saw my AP votes as trying to further his game. It really never crossed my mind to try to vote in a way that he'd win. Instead of seeing us as a team I saw him as my voter in the house to further my "alliance". I very rarely voted for the silly stuff like the silent treatment or catch phrase.
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Fan3
Member
07-07-2005
| Monday, September 24, 2007 - 2:47 pm
Dick as he played a good game. he had a target on his back from hour one.
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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Monday, September 24, 2007 - 2:52 pm
No way would Eric have gotten my vote! There was something about him I didn't like from the start and that was way before the incestuous comments, ANd after them well that would have really done it for me!
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Monday, September 24, 2007 - 2:56 pm
If there was no twist it wouldn't have mattered-both of them were probably owuld have been gone before final 5, let alone final 2-but if it was those 2, probably Dick-his strategy was sound, even if I hated the tactics..
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Victoryrm
Member
09-20-2007
| Monday, September 24, 2007 - 2:56 pm
It never crossed my mind to help Eric get further either. I don't get this idea of "we" let Eric down? "We" voted for the Donatos as far as I'm concerned. I never once thought of Eric going to F2 or even wanting him there. Jessica or Zack either.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Monday, September 24, 2007 - 2:58 pm
I wish the jury were allowed to abstain, and if neither one of the F2 got four votes, no one would win the grand prize. Then they'd really have to work hard at not being overly nasty. They could give them both $50K or whatever.
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Kaykohl
Member
05-10-2004
| Monday, September 24, 2007 - 3:01 pm
My vote would have been for Eric.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Monday, September 24, 2007 - 3:26 pm
What would be the point of a jury member abstaining? They are under contract to fulfill an obligation they have. Sometimes, that requires choosing a person they may not personally care for. That's what they signed up to do. And that's exactly what they did. Like it or not, Dick Donato played the best game this year. He would have gotten my vote.
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