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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Use of Church/Organ Music Offensive or Fair?: ARCHIVES: Archive through August 13, 2007 users admin

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Yowie
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07-21-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 8:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yowie a private message Print Post    
Tobor, you asked what music might BB play if Eric started talking about his religious beliefs? I can see them playing the mournful violins from Fiddler on the Roof. As it has been said...BB is not classy.

Donut
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07-31-2001

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 8:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Donut a private message Print Post    
i'm glad people here said that the music is used because it's gameplay mixed with religion. If they played it with Kayser or Jee praying it would be a different story. And someone asked on this thread if they would do it to Eric.. If he started praying to win Beer Pong and get Jessica to do things to him, then yes, we would hear a lot of Hava Nagila..

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
It is not offensive, it's just funny. The girl should have thought about it before she turned herself into Ammie Simple Mcferson. (Ammie was a much better showman)

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
Great topic.

I agree with Pamy. At first I thought it was rather benign and funny; then I started to feel bothered that BB was really making fun of Jameka and mocking her faith.

Excellent point, Tobor, that they portrayed Kaysar's religious beliefs in a very different light - like we were all supposed to gain a greater understanding of Muslims or respect for the Islamic faith.

Carochar
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07-25-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 8:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carochar a private message Print Post    
I'm on board with the church music being disrepectful and mocking ... but I'm loving the idea of theme songs for each HG! Now that's a thread to start!! I'd love to see what you geniuses come up with for Zach.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 8:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Dear ketchup please grant me the strength to finish this post :-)

Carochar
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07-25-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carochar a private message Print Post    
[Thanks, Ketch. I've been here 6 years and kept my no-thread-starting record intact. I'm a 'fraidy cat all the way!]

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 8:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
It offends me. If someone wants to reach out to God, Allah or a higher power it should not be made fun of. No one is perfect and these girls are trying...so give them points for that!

Mzgrvr
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07-13-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 8:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mzgrvr a private message Print Post    
I think it is a bit offensive.
And in Jamekas defense...Being in that house, with Dick always in your face...who knows how even a respectable upstanding Christain would react. He is rude, crude and a complete jerk to her and I can see how she backslides...Come one people...You can't expect someone even a self proclaimed religious person to take that without breaking down, She felt bad afterwards...which tells me she does have a concicious...

I can't even get into Ambers deal...she is way to annoying.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 8:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I'm fine with it. I hardly even notice to be honest.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
I think it is disrespectful and offensive (ditto Ladytex). It feels... like they're mocking.

And I am not a religious person at all.

Rubberducky
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09-02-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rubberducky a private message Print Post    
It was a bit much and it was getting on my nerves. Imagine how Jam's family must feel. It was making me mad.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Did Amber actually say "Excuse me" to god when she coughed in the middle of her prayer in the HOH as the organ music played?

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
i would hope jamekas parents would be more upset about jameka calling dicks mother a b* then the church music.

Aremid
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06-27-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aremid a private message Print Post    
I think it is very offensive, and I hope they stop doing it. As someone else stated, it is disrespectful and mocking. I don't like it at all. I don't think they'd do this if it were some other religion besides Christianity. They'd be too afraid to do it because it just wouldn't be politically correct!

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Sanfran, Amber did say "Excuse me" to God because she was talking to him asking for him to help her out, especially in the game because she is out of shape and needs all the help she can get. LOL, not word for word but still I thought it was funny because it reminded me of a 13 yr old rebellious teenager.

Bbpeach
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07-07-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbpeach a private message Print Post    
Well, since God is running this game, and already knows the winner, don't you think it's appropriate that he have his own theme music!!

Topshotta
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07-06-2007

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Topshotta a private message Print Post    
I'm a big jameka fan, and i think its funny when they play the organ music.

Penpoint
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03-27-2001

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Penpoint a private message Print Post    
Does anyone know if the organ music in question is a particular religious hymn? Because to me it sounds like the organ music that used to be played in the background of radio soap operas -- of course that was back in the early days of electronics when I was a kid. There is nothing innately religious about organ music; it's just that we associate it with churches and funeral homes.

Ch3j0r
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07-21-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ch3j0r a private message Print Post    
I'm more bugged that these girls pray out loud for "show." They can exhibit some humility by praying silently (I don't remember actually hearing Kaysar pray...although I could be wrong).

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 11:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think it is a hoot, personally.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
Humility by praying in silent? Sometimes when I pray I do find myself whispering the words aloud, so I really don't think that is not being humble before the Lord. Many different religions pray outloud and even chant, so what is one person's "humility" may not be another's. However, I do find Jam to be somewhat of a hypocrite as Dick did say. To call his mother, who is an ordained minister a "b*tch" all the while saying "glory be to God" is just horrible. How she could even sit there saying the things she was saying and then holding herself up to God at the same time was so awfully hypocritical I almost threw up. Then to say, well God knew I was gonna say it before I said it... umm, maybe so, but in my Bible so did the devil. I won't even go into Amber at this point and her "religion."

However, I agree w/ other posters, I do think that CBS should stop that music. Maybe ONCE may have been amusing but now it is shameful. No, they did not play music when Kaysar went to pray and I do think they are making fun of Jam's beliefs by doing so which I do find offensive in every way.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 2:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
Yep....Kaysar prayed out loud.....he was quiet, but you could hear him. The only thing was....it was in Arabic!

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 2:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
I am more bugged that posters on the board and BB/CBS think it THEIR place to be judge and jury as to whether Jameka and Amber are faking their Christianity and doing it for "show"...therefore giving them the right to make fun of them. That creeps me out more than anything else this season.

Streetsmart
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08-06-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Streetsmart a private message Print Post    
They are editting Dick in a positive light as if he is "Cool" or something. I just dont see it.