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Archive through August 22, 2007

The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Jen/Dick Fight: Archive through August 22, 2007 users admin

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Sammy
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08-21-2007

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sammy a private message Print Post    
isn't california one of the biggest on the second hand smoke thing? If I were her I would also make that known and next time he did a cannon ball----oppps there go the cigs with him.... but that should not have been allowed Dick should receive a pen nom just on that fact alone....second hand smoke is now such a huge no-no

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 2:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
BB allowing Dick to smoke in an appointed area and Him leaning in and directly blowing smoke in Jen's face are two different things.

if it was done on the street i can see Jen being able to say it was an intent to injure, cause distress.

I dont know. It is a day later and I still have the vision of a smirking Dick kicking Jen while hollaring Dont touch me!!

who was touching whom first? that initial contact could be debated and used as to intent

Shelby6100
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08-02-2007

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shelby6100 a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, I don't think Jen used the words "old man" when talking to Dick. I just can't fault Jen for having boundaries and speaking up about them. We don't know what her history is or what she may have encountered in the past.

I'm a 46 years old, but I can remember being young and I know I wouldn't have felt comfortable with an older man putting his hands all over me at Jen's age. My 50 year old husband would not feel comfortable doing it either. I guess that's why neither one of us would ever end up on show like BB.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Sammy stated:
I agree with Jen in destroying his cigs....don't care---there are laws that cover second hand smoke and I'm sure there a lawyers out there willing to pursue it....

That gal who's always got her face on TV in high profile cases comes to mind, esp. with NOW being involved in CA as well. I think her name is Gloria Alred.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Actually Jen thru the first AND ONLY physical slap.

her sole intent was to make Dick go off and do something violent and be disqualifed from the house.

There is a video of it...she was grabbing at him after smacking him on the arm...he was pushing her back with his foot...she was clearly trying to provoke him...

...despite what some think HE WOULD DO... he didn't...

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I disagree, Kep. She was eating and he blew smoke in her face and on her food. She lost it. That was extremely rude of him, as well as being a health hazard. He started it and a good lawyer will have no problem making a case that goes beyone any contract BB has.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
She pushed his buttons trying to get him expelled...he responded with smoke...

Jen knew what she was doing...She just wasn't successful.

Sammy
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08-21-2007

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sammy a private message Print Post    
dick is the older of the two---lessons should be taught in that matter....he should be able to refrain his smoke---especially in these times and days...I would never ever do that---regardless...dick could have put it out and walked away...HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING
second hand smoke is very high no no regardless......even saw it on cops and you know what someone went to jail....it is not taken lightly shouldn't

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Walking away would NOT have stopped Jen.

She was on a mission... to get ED OUT. She would have followed him and tried other things to get him to respond.

Jen is also an adult...she was IN THE SMOKING AREA... She is allowed to eat anywhere she wants, ED has only ONE place to smoke...Jen also could have gotten up and moved....and if she wasn't on a mission, she would have....

This fight wasn't about smoke or food... it was about getting ED out of the game...

Nutsy
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08-14-2001

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nutsy a private message Print Post    
Why is Dick being older a point? Jen's old enough to know better than to destroy someone's property. In my opinion, she started it and she got frustrated when Dick didn't react the way she thought. Again, jmho.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 4:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I noticed on the show last night that Jen's vandalized shirt has been restored/replaced to its original glory....

...wasn't a hint of mustard on it...anywhere...

So much for BB replacing Dick's cigs and not Jen's shirt....

Guinevere
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03-15-2001

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Guinevere a private message Print Post    

quote:

She was on a mission... to get ED OUT. She would have followed him and tried other things to get him to respond.




She was there first. He walked up and blew smoke in her face. I don't have any sympathy for that being "the smoker's area" since it's also the main backyard sitting area (more comfortable for sitting than the hammock or the teacup), and I do not think anyone should be allowed to subject others to second-hand smoke. The rights of people not polluting the air should come first.

Tappy
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08-22-2007

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 4:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tappy a private message Print Post    
They both should be kicked out at this point.

Who was it that used some ones toothbrush to clean the toliet ???

Jhmom
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07-10-2005

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jhmom a private message Print Post    
Tappy wasn't it Shannon from BB2. (someone correct me if I'm wrong)

It seems to me that both Jen and Dick have done an excellent job at trying to provoke each other into action. The only difference (no matter who you like) is Jen actually made physical contact with ED during their altercation.

Imho, Jen was just trying to make herself the center of attention. This seems to have been her goal for the season and it worked. HG's and posters alike seem fixated on her behavior.

Tappy
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08-22-2007

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 5:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tappy a private message Print Post    
I think that is who it was.

I know they kicked out some guy for holding a knife and another guy for something else (cant remember)

Jhmom
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07-10-2005

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jhmom a private message Print Post    
Same season I think. Someone held a knife to Krista maybe? Also in the Ex season didn't some guy get removed for trashing the backyard in a jealous fit over his ex?

Sammy
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08-21-2007

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sammy a private message Print Post    
dick is a walking button....

Sammy
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08-21-2007

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sammy a private message Print Post    
dick is a walking button....and asks for so much more....he crosses boundries all the time and they let him

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

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Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 6:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
from wikipedia:

Early in the second season, a houseguest, Justin, placed a knife to the throat of fellow houseguest Krista and asked, "Would you get mad if I killed you?" Both competitors were under the influence of alcohol, but Justin was quickly disqualified and evicted. The houseguests were notified the following morning via the voice of executive producer Arnold Shapiro, who asked them to gather up Justin's belongings to be sent home.

and same season

Contestant Shannon became known for her temper. After a snit with fellow houseguest Autumn, she placed a bag of chips on Autumn's pillow to make Autumn feel that one of the houseguests thought she was fat, without a note, so that Autumn would not know who did it and would become paranoid. After a fight with fellow houseguest Hardy, Shannon stormed off to the bathroom, where she picked up his electric toothbrush and scrubbed the toilet with it, in an ostensible act of revenge. The voice of Big Brother (co-producer Don Wollman) alerted Hardy to Shannon's actions, however.

Jhmom
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07-10-2005

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jhmom a private message Print Post    
Thank you Cndeariso. I didn't remember the exact details.

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 8:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
I agree with you 100% Kep, Jen is highly ticked off she's been backdoored and she is doing what she can to get under Dick's skin.


IMO this is NOT PAYBACK for how Dick has treated her, this is ONLY because she is ticked about being put up after veto.

I would probably be ticked off if I was in her situation, I just hope I would handle the situation better.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 8:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
I agree Hiyall.... she did not spend all that time reading that rule book for NO reason. Something that keeps being overlooked. She spent at least an hour PRIOR to any of this reading it and making vague comments. Then she coyly sat and inquired to others about the location of his cigs. She then made up an excuse to "clean the sink w/ bleach." Then waited until everyone went out and started her mexican hat dance smushing and crushing the cigs. She then poured bleach on them all the while with BB telling her to STOP over the intercom. Then she calmly got food out of the fridge and started her eating binge. Several HG's have said over and over now, "just because you found a loophole" which I take it as Jen DID find something she could use in that rule book and during their so-called meeting she called them on it. Even now she is stating how she is good for ratings and that BB/CBS is probably trying to find a reason to stay.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
you know. i need a laugh. i might just go watch the jen crushing the cigs again. then watch dick hide all her clothes up in the hoh. that was the best night in a long time.

i wish they would go at it again tonight! i am bored shitless.

Kiersten_love
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 10:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kiersten_love a private message Print Post    
Oh can you provide the link or youtube link to that, with jen crushing the cigs/and dick hiding her clothes in hoh for me if you can? Thanks :-)