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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Use of Church/Organ Music Offensive or Fair?: ARCHIVES: Archive through August 13, 2007 users admin

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Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
I am a little icked out by it too. Makes it seem that CBS is mocking all religion, not just Amber and Jameka's style of it.

Vickyfla
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06-29-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vickyfla a private message Print Post    
I think the music is funny. I agree with seamonkey! I don't pray outloud myself. Why do we have to hear everything she is praying about?

Piper45840
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03-02-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Piper45840 a private message Print Post    
I honestly don't think CBS is trying to mock all religion. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, it seems they are showing both sides. Scene one: Amber's badmouthing, cussing, insults and racist remarks. Scene two: tearful prayers and organ music. (yes Maris, that visual does scream for organ music)

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Yes, Maris, how could BB resist making fun?

Afraid I was laughing before the music began. Not really proud of that, but--who could resist?

Chupey
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07-03-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chupey a private message Print Post    
The only reason we have to hear everything she is praying about is because BB chose to air it, or because of being on the feeds. I pray both ways, silently if others are around, or out loud if I'm alone. So that's no big deal to me.

If they are being silly about it, then I'd say go ahead and add the music. Like Will's poofy hair in BB2. HE knew it was hilarious and so we all joined in when they did a show makng fun of his hair. But Jameka is dead serious in her praying, and even though she is like the rest of us and isn't perfect.. when she's talking to God, she means every word of it. Her style is different than mine, but that doesn't mean it should be made fun of.

What will they do next? Make fun of the abortion issue because of Amber? Some things you leave alone.

Chupey
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07-03-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chupey a private message Print Post    
BUT.. scene two would be just as effective without the organ music! Or, why not add in "Gangsta" music into scene one with the cussing and badmouthing?

I'd better get out of here and go back into lurk mode before I get myself into trouble. hee.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Well if Amber after two months in the house tells Dustin that she is three weeks pregnant and it is his baby, then I say play rugrats music.

Piper45840
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03-02-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Piper45840 a private message Print Post    
You'd have to ask BB on that one Chupey...the gangsta music would have been pretty funny during Amber's spaze out on Eric though!! She had the hair/hat and everything! :-)

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
The music particularly with Amber is a hoot.Even though they are making fun of her I still laugh since she is such a cry baby.

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hobbs a private message Print Post    
I think Jameka is over the top and the producers see it that way so they put on the music. Then when Amber felt the eyes of God leading her to the guitars they felt the same way. I think it's hilarious.

It's a TV show, it's entertainment. It is NOT to be taken seriously. I'm sure that's what the producers are thinking. It sure is what I'm thinking.

My question is, if God is helping Jameka AND Amber, what will He do when they compete against each other? A tie?

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
I see both sides. Mostly, I thought it was funny. What I didn't like much was how they showed what Jameka was praying on the previous show, by the little captions. It seemed a little invasive to me.

Then on the other hand, she does use this as her game play. It's her choice to use it.

The difference with Kaysar is that he never presumed to tell people his God is the right God, etc. or tell people they were going to he11 if they didn't follow the way he believed. He kept his worship as private as he was able in that house.

Jee's thing was a ceremony to honor his father. I don't see how that ties in with this.

Askme_who_ur
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08-19-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Askme_who_ur a private message Print Post    
Does the organ music offend me ? Yes it does.

You need to remember these people are here 24/7 and if someone professes to be a Christian then praying is something that you do. As a Christian,we believe God to be our Father and as such you can talk to him about anything. That being said, do I feel Amber (more than Jameka) Pray the way I would ? NO ! I do ask God to strengthen me and guide me and give me wisdom. But most people forget God is the Creator, We are the creation. He is concerned about the things that concern us,but he is NOT Santa Claus, who We can dial up on a pray and give a shopping list to and expect him to fill our wish list to our specifications.
But everyone is at a different place in their walk with God and Amber seems to be a very immature christian. I see more maturity in Jameka. I agree with an earlier poster, who said being in that house with Dick 24/7 would drive most anyone to want to strike back. I don't condone what Jameka said but after seeing Dick's rantings it is quite understandable.

Does it surprise me that CBS is so disrespecful? No ! They manipulate the hamsters inside the house and they are trying to do the same with the viewers !

Bubba
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07-29-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bubba a private message Print Post    
I don't think CBS is making fun of religion. Jameka's saying that the ping pong ball was a message from God was to me over the top. I believe God is with us at all times, I just think he doesn't choose who is going to win BB or who is going to win President of the US. He gave us free will.

Piper45840
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03-02-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Piper45840 a private message Print Post    
I think you're right Hobbs. When Jameka lost the POV because she'd only give up 10 grand and fell to her knees, the first thing that came to my mind was that she didn't want to come across as being greedy like Dustin did when he took the trip/money. I watch the live feeds and BBAD so my opinion is based on seeing most of what goes on and seeing the hypocrisy of it.

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hobbs a private message Print Post    
I don't care who you are, or how good an actor you are, when a camera goes on you, you change. We all do it. Think of a time when someone was video taping you, you become conscious of everything you do.

Now, if it was a network camera and you know you are being broadcast on network TV and over the internet, you're really going to be conscious of it. They all pretend they don't (except Dick), but they are acting. It's always on their mind of what they look like. They all go over the top because they know they are on TV. I bet none of them act that way at home.

Askme_who_ur
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08-19-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Askme_who_ur a private message Print Post    
Hobbs.... could it be they are encouraged in the DR to "Go with THAT" which would be whatever that particular HG is doing ? Take "it" to a higher level ?

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hobbs a private message Print Post    
I'm sure the DR does do that. In the name of "good TV" of course.

Lori
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04-18-2003

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori a private message Print Post    
I consider myself to be a religious person and I do pray regularly. I find the organ music hilarious!

Chouchou
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08-09-2007

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chouchou a private message Print Post    
I don't care about the organ music.

I care that they waste time showing people praying all the <sg> time, when they could be using that time to focus on actual discourse between players.

That Amber praying session must have been what, 2 mins. The longest 2 mins of my life

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
I think that showing people praying (whether I believe they are sincere or not) is an interesting window into who they are as people -- or who they want to aspire to be -- or at worst, how they choose to portray themselves to their fellow houseguests/outside world.

But I still think the organ music is mocking them, and I find that disrespectful.

There are certain things that are extremely personal to people -- things that they choose to share or not share as members of BB -- and religion is one of those things. Even though I am a nonbeliever myself, I do have respect for those who do truly have faith.

I just don't think the production/network should be in the business of mocking something so personal. Just my thoughts, though.

Nancyp
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07-04-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancyp a private message Print Post    
It makes me and my husband very uncomfortable. We even muted the tv last night. <sg>

Justalittlebean
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08-15-2003

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Justalittlebean a private message Print Post    
I think Jam is over the top too. I'm beginning to wonder about her mental health. I wonder what her fellow church members think about her actions. I'm not the judge, but some of the things that come out of her mouth isn't very nice at all. When Dick goes off and she don't agree or want to hear, she should just walk away. She was shadowing him the other night and keeping it going with Dick.



Biginjapan
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07-23-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biginjapan a private message Print Post    
I laugh everytime they play the organ music.

Chicogirl
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07-23-2007

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chicogirl a private message Print Post    
I have loved the organ music from the start. I had a bit of trouble watching Amber crying with the head phones on, listening to Toby Keith, praying for God to help her win some comps.

*wonders what kleenex stock is selling at*

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
yes chico i laughed so hard at that. especially when she said 'i am sorry i turned to drugs to help me with energy to work' huh? take a vitamin b12 shot!

she was totally pandering to the live feeds and america!