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Why D&D deserve to be final 2.

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Surfgirl
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10-11-2003

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 1:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Surfgirl a private message Print Post    
Ok I agree the in your face bashing was done. That was done by Dick. I do have to give points to Dick for that, he never was a stab you in the back kind of guy.
Dani is a differnt story.She did back stab and two face her self tru the game. Why I hope Dick gets the money. Other reason I hope he gets it is to see Dani whine and moan " How un-fair..what is wrong with these people.."

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 1:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
okay, I dont want to bother reading this thread.

Bad ME!

But I saw the title and thought What the Hey, I'll go answer the question.

Why D&D deserve to be final 2? hmmmmmmmmm because they were all set to be a secret Couple on BB6 and only made it to the Finals before the show, thus never made it.

A person could go out on a limb and say that they Deserved to be ushered to the Final Two on this season since they were rejected and dejected from not being on BB6.

gameplay? no so much. Yeah dani won comps, With so many people throwing comps I dont consider that a big deal.

Dick? yeah he fluked into a couple of wins and freely admitted he guessed and didnt have a clue. His gameplay? I'm not going to dignify it with a response.

Govols
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07-19-2005

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 1:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Govols a private message Print Post    
Cheek and Mummy~I disagree. Yes, they do deserve to win. I didn't like some of his antics...but, aside from that, they certainly do deserve it.

Cheekychops
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08-12-2005

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 1:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheekychops a private message Print Post    
Morning Govols. Like Sunshyne says, Dani won comps but with so many throwing it, its not that big of a deal. She also hid behind Nick and Dick (both were more personal than game play).

Dick. No one should be rewarded for doing and saying the things he did to people. Dani promoted and urged him to be the way he was towards people. Sometimes even instigating it.

So that is why I don't think either deserve this win. JMHO.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 5:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Every single one of the hgs on that jury became intolerable or bedridden when on the block except these two. Dani may have whined and Dick may acted like a jerk, but they were never not playing this game. How many of them when on the block stayed up during Showtime? Every single night including this week they have stayed up to give the viewers something, as boring as it was it was better than watching the others sleep.

Who should have been rewarded for saying all the nasty things Dick said except behind their backs? I watched the feeds, the show and Showtime and when the incest comments were going on Jessica, Jen, Jameka and Amber heard them, but not once did I hear them say "that's not right, you guys"..not once. Not once did they discuss it later and say "they shouldn't have said that", not even Jessica to Eric. Is it more acceptable because they didn't say it to his face?

Not one of the players this year have been "the good people" (omg how I hate hearing that line). They have all shown a soft side and a game side (no holds barred). It has been one of the most entertaining years for me, and I credit Dick and Danielle not being afraid to win challenges and using their brains to figure things out. In the past I've felt like a voyuer in a spring break hotel for a bunch of college kids...boringgggggggg

They deserve to win because they were entertaining and that to me is their sole purpose in this game as a viewer. The money they win is their pay for doing just that.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 5:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Sour grapes abound.
People just can't get past ED's behavior, or Danielle's sometimes complicity with it.
I wanted Zach to win, yet I'll give ED and Dani their props.
I don't think anything was "rigged."
As Janelle, Howie and Kaysar all said in their recent chats, the DR presents you with different scenarios and they try to get you to talk about each one, and then they use the response from you that they want to edit into the show to further the story they're telling.
I have also heard and read other former HGs talk about how they'll ramble out how they're feeling, then the DR will "rewrite" what they said to make it clearer for tv, and then get them to say the more concise version. It's not really "telling them what to say" it's like editing a novel. The DR takes the rough draft, and fine tunes it for broadcast.
I think Dani winning so many comps isn't just becuase people were throwing it.
How many times did she win Veto where if she hadn't she'd be gone?
How many times did she win Veto where the nominees needed to win or they'd be gone?
How many times did she and ED win HOH when they needed to?
ED won HOH the week after both he and Dani were first put on the block together. That's meaningless, nobody else wanted to win that week?
I think Kail and Mike would say otherwise.
Eric needed to win HOH and lost to ED (even if ED guessed, Eric still missed his only chance to stay in the house.)
Zach wanted to make it to final 2, so ED's winning the final HOH was meaningless?
Sorry, they won when they needed to and they won against others who were really trying to win.
I knew the 1st part of the HOH would favor Zach, and I could only hope that he somehow pulled out the victory at the end. I thought he had the best shot at beating ED over Dani in the 3rd part, but he just blundered it up.
So, although I wanted Zach to win, Dani to get 2nd and ED to not win any of the big money (no reward for his behavior) I have to give them props for pulling out win after win that kept them in the house.
They deserve to be in the F2 far more than Erika, Ivette, Jun, Allison, Cowboy, or Lisa IMHO.
Congrats to them for doing what the Fitness Twins, the Secret Pairs, Chill Town, the Sovs, and Jason & Danielle couldn't do.

Cheekychops
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08-12-2005

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 5:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheekychops a private message Print Post    
They were all being paid to entertain, its called a stipend. Who entertained the most? Dick. Does he deserve $500K for his brand of entertainment? No, IMO.

Needmylifeback
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08-14-2000

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 6:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Needmylifeback a private message Print Post    
The only thing that will make me think of Dick even lower than I already do (and it is purely because of his fowl mouth .. if he didn't cuss so much I think I might have liked him...) is if on the final show he professes to have played this game honestly and without lying .. and I fear that this is something he'll do ..

Tracy
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07-16-2007

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 6:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tracy a private message Print Post    
The thing that I have to give them props for is that they always stayed focused on the GAME. They didn't let personality and emotions color their game plan.
They were smart enough to use each other as a crutch.
The other players didn't seem to know how to do that even though the opp was there.
I think that Zach played an amazing game but I also think that he let his emotions get involved at the worst possible time.

Carmil
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07-17-2005

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 6:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carmil a private message Print Post    
Wow... Darclyte, Earthmother and Keiffer... EXCELLENT posts. All 3 of you summed it up beautifully for me and why the Donatos deserve to be the final 2 this year.
Nobody played the game harder, made the best strategical moves and won each comp when they needed it the most.
Congrats to both Dick and Dani. You both deserve the win this season.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 6:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
YUp I second that Carmil all 3 of them summed it up way better than I could have. Love it or hate it we will all be back next year and I give Kudos's to Dani and Dick you worked hard and you won!

Ssdan
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08-21-2007

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 6:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ssdan a private message Print Post    
yes they deserved to win, or they wouldn't be there now would they?

Props to to the "Old Man" he schooled those kids!

Nicedupa
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08-18-2007

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 6:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nicedupa a private message Print Post    
Why do they deserve to be the final 2? Cuz the rest of 'em <77> and so did America's voting. Not happy about the F2, but outside of wasting the last part of this season watching, I want to see the shocked faces when AP is revealed.

I'll watch the finale cuz I know D/D will be gloating and not be humbled about their winnings. Then find out AP was involved and that their game moves (some were quite good on their own, but a lot was APs vote) I want to see everyone's reactions. Oh the drama!

Maybe someone could start another thread (or not). But what kind of reception do you all think Dick and/or Dani will get from the audience when they are finally walking out of the house? I'm curious.

Aerojunki
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06-30-2004

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 6:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aerojunki a private message Print Post    
Because they kicked @ss!

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 7:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
Well, to be fair here, you've got to admit that when things weren't going her way, Dani also took to her bed and wailed and moaned about it not being fair, and she wanted to go home. That said, while I don't condone their tactics, the rest of the cast allowed them to stay and get to the end. It is what it is. Congratulations to the Donatos.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
I didn't like how they implemented their strategies, but they were sound. Winning all those comps didn't hurt either (especially the endurance HOH Dani won-If she hadn't Dick wouldn't even have made the jury most likely).

The only person who realized they had to be broken up pre-jury was Jen-but unfortunately, she was a pariah in the house and no one listened.

Zach knew they needed to be broken up before final 3-but left it too late and had no backup plan other than "Win final 3 HOH" which didn't happen.

I won't say the AP was entirely to blame-Eric truly thought that they would honor their deal to take him and Jess to final 4, but didn't realize D/D were thinking ahead to final 2 and knew Jess was unbeatable, thus she had to be blindsided.

I'm not going to begrudge them a penny of their $550,000- but I hope they realize what they had to do to get it and feel a little remorse after they've had time to think about it.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 7:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Watching and listening to the former hgs even now at the jury house it appears that no matter what Dick said to Jen she was not liked. We can watch feeds 24/7 and still miss a lot. The vortex was on a great deal of the time this year and for extended periods of time, so obviously there were other reasons why the hgs didn't like her. I won't blame Dick or Danielle for all of it. Even Jameka made some comments this last week about her, they weren't vicious but they were telling. Jen made an enemy of Dick in the first comp. and she kept making mistakes with the others. She hurt him and he was going to make her pay. I don't agree with how he handled it, but I totally understand why he didn't like her.

Yes Dani took to her bed and cried when things went wrong for her, but she didn't stay there for days. She vented and got up and was more determined than ever to beat them. She was accused by many for being mean when she was joking. I just felt that no matter what these two did some would put a negative spin on it and use it against them as people. Dani has a very sarcastic sense of humor. I understand her because I have one too.

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 7:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
I've said for weeks that Dani has played the best game. Years ago I read that sarcasm is derived from the Greek word sarkasmos, which means "to tear flesh." I was shocked by that and don't have the same appreciation for sarcastic wit as I once did.

Agirlcalledbob
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08-12-2005

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 8:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Agirlcalledbob a private message Print Post    
That is the point of the game isn't it, to get to the end? So by getting there the person(s) deserves to win. Pretty simple in my book. Even when someone plays how we don't like, they still out played and out lasted everyone else.

So yes, D&D deserve to be there, as would anyone who made it that far.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 8:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Dick and Daniele deserve to be there because they are the last two standing, and I hope they enjoy the heck outta their win.

Jenhavins
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08-23-2000

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 8:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenhavins a private message Print Post    
Dick and Dani played a better game. D&D were entertaining, played hard, played rough, played best.

Dick has won HOH's on a final guess, but he has also won because he got to know people (hence, knowing most/all the questions leading up to the final guess). Saying he won HOH on guesses isn't correct.

Dick also was a close second in the last two physical challenges. Everyone was already saying he would choke in the teacup HOH, and he kept up toe-to-toe with Zach. Standing 7 hours in freezing rain on a stump is nothing to sneeze at. Kudos to both Zach and Dick for that one.

Nobody threw that final four POV, and Dani had it while everyone else was still struggling with the lineup of events.

They made my summer entertaining. First time in the history of this game that I am thrilled with the final two.

Mrsmel
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07-04-2007

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mrsmel a private message Print Post    
I too am happy with the final two for the first time. I wanted Janelle the last two times and before that it never worked out for the ones I wanted either. I am so glad that Dick beat Zach in the final HOH because, the vibe from the jury house clips was they were voting on anybody BUT a Donato. The Donatos both deserve to be there and I will be happy with either one of them winning.

Bbpeach
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07-07-2005

Friday, September 14, 2007 - 9:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbpeach a private message Print Post    
Dick and Danielle played the best game. For 10 out of the 12 evictions, they won HOH, POV or both. They were nominated 3 times together, and managed to both stay all 3 times. Some are making the argument that others threw these challenges. Well, if they were silly enough to do this, then yes, they deserve to lose the game. While I do think there are occasions where it is best to not win a comp, if you're not willing to come and play hard, then don't bother coming at all IMHO. D/D played hard the whole game and took no prisoners.

I keep hearing how AP is who kept them there. First of all, the only week a real argument that can be made for that is the week of Dustin's eviction. Secondly, Eric is the only one that was beholden to do what America wanted. Jen & Zach did not have to change their votes at all. Obviously, they chose to take the chance and play the game with Dick instead of Dustin.

Lastly, when I watch these shows, I try to separate the contestants personal traits and personalities from their game playing abilities. Sometimes, I can't help but like someone more than others, but years like this year, where there was really no one that just jumped out at me with their personality, it's easier to separate the two. I just don't get so outraged when they use language, or tactics that I personally wouldn't use. I'm able to look past it, to the reason each and everyone of them is there - to play a game.

Congratulations to Dick and Danielle - you played this game full out, from comps, to strategy, to being able to read other people's motives.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 6:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Dick and Daniele were both nominated three times, and all three times they were nominated together. They are the final two. I think that says quite a bit.

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasper a private message Print Post    
Jucy-I was not laughing at your opinion nor implying you could not have one. I didn't even say I liked the Donatos. Just that I felt they deserved to be there and that I did not get how the editing could have helped as they really weren't shown in the most favourable light on TV. jmo

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
If you look at the big picture, they're there because the entire house passed up opportunities to break up the the most overt alliance in BB history, either by plain dopey reasons OR because "America" just loved their story or their antics or thought Dick was hot <77>. If any of the evicted hgs want to know why d/d "deserve" (hate that description cause what they deserve and what they will get is two different things IMO) to be there, all they need to do is look in the mirror.

I'd love to hear what's up between the two of them in about 3-6 months.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Yeah but they "deserve" to get all the money ecause they are the final two. 'Nuff said, yes? (If the other HGs didn't take the opportunity to get them out when they had a chance, they they are the losers, yes?)

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 2:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
And in three out of the four final competitions, Dick or Daniele won:

1. Dick won HOH. Eric evicted. (America had no say.)

2. Zach won HOH. Dani won POV. Jameka evicted. (Again, America had no say.)

3. Dick won HOH. Zach evicted.

Scribe
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08-16-2000

Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 2:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scribe a private message Print Post    
deserve to be final 2 no doubt