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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Blog: Ed's Attacks Encouraged by CBS: Archive through September 13, 2007 users admin

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Ecoop
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07-07-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ecoop a private message Print Post    
I thought Howie's rants were some of the worst I'd heard. I was a great Janie/Kaysar fan, but Howie, not so much. However, if we're comparing degrees of vileness, Dick takes the prize. I turned off the live feed interviews of Howie and Kaysar last night because Howie agreed with Dick that anything goes, and I just don't agree with that.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 1:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I'm sure after the show the media will bring up a lot of dirt the show. It's bound to have all the houseguests discuss the whole thing even if they are muzzled by the producers.

One thing for sure, it won't be a love fest!

Swannanoa
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07-09-2007

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 1:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Swannanoa a private message Print Post    
I couldn't stand listening to him anymore especially after his spit starting sticking to his goatee! Sorry about the image!

I stand by the fact that no one that is not in the house whether they signed a release or not should have their names bandied about to the degree Dick has done in order to "get" to an opponent in a competition. And no one who is in the BB house should have to put up with emotional/verbal abuse and anything bordering on slandering while playing a reality game no matter what they signed. And any good lawyer worth their salt can take apart any agreement at any given moment.

I watched the competition and got so sick to my stomach I found myself yelling at Dick to shut up. I wanted it to be a decent comp without all of that and I really think Dick was doing that in the beginning until his precious daughter started all her crying when he wouldn't trash talk Zach at first.

I appreciated reading the article/blog/editorial/opinion/whatever. It summed up feelings even if there some of the "facts" weren't accurate.

Cillysue2
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05-02-2003

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 1:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cillysue2 a private message Print Post    
I thought her commentary was right on. But again too little too late. I would have been afraid of him just for the simple reason of having to hear it and no one standing up for me, or telling him to shut up. I heard Zach call him on it once and he backed down. But as long as people sit there and take it. But CBS was wrong to allow it to get as bad as it did. MHO

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
I think they might surprise you. Most houseguests in previous years have let things go after the game that we never thought they would.

Ecoop
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07-07-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ecoop a private message Print Post    
I guess I'm just not as savy as you, Delilah. I've read many "articles" in entertainment magazines, hard copy and online, that aren't necessarily based on fact; ie., movie reviews, which are opinions. Technically, I may have the terminology wrong, but so what? To me, that doesn't take away any value. I've very much aware it is opinion, and I don't think anyone would misinterpret this to be anything other than an opinion piece.

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
most houseguests in previous years didn't have anything close to Dick to put up with - this was a whole different ball game

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
I certainly don't think it is a problem to express an opinion, but I do think it is very irresponible to distort the facts in order to make your point more palpable or dramatic.

Delilah
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07-08-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Delilah a private message Print Post    
I think its just semantics, Ecoop.

To me, it just seems like people are so apt to take an opinion and run with it as a fact, so I just wanted us to be cautious.

But you are probably right ... I make the distinction by the labels, but many others might make the same distinction and yet call them the same thing.

Just sematics. [shurg]

peace.

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
That is a matter of opinion Tvwatcher.

Ivory_mist
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08-31-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ivory_mist a private message Print Post    
That article expressed the views of many watchers...and I commend her for that. Can we condone his behavior because of the entertainment and ratings he got..not I! We must be a sick society if we do!

That article was not written for Dateline..it was the opinion of the writer, and many agree with her! Many do not...and that is your right!

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Great article! ICAM. Hope cbs got their money's worth. Seems to me that for a half million bucks, we could have had something better to look out while being forced to either listen to his vile mouth or mute the sound. It sickens.

Nick
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07-31-2004

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
i would suggest that in general western media.. our media.. is no longer journalism but slanted/biased and often propaganda.. it's all rating/sales/entertainment driven these days... honestly i prefer bbc worldnews etc.. much more accurate reporting and far better coverage of the world..

~ducks before he's hit with a torrent of rotten vegetables~

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
I don't get why a writer distorting facts is being lauded? I don't think it is her opinion that is a problem but the tactics she is using to express it.

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
I applaud her tactics - sure, she got some things wrong - but the overall message was clear and very accurate

Kdee
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07-31-2006

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kdee a private message Print Post    
I agreed with most of that article. I felt the same way. I wish CBS wouldn't encourage this kind of behavior, but they are after the money. Just glad I didn't waste a dime on voting and giving them any money at all.

Ivory_mist
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08-31-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ivory_mist a private message Print Post    
Cindy Rutolo Dietrich is an entertainment writer, reviewer. rock journalist, poet, hotel reviewer, pianist, singer, songwriting artist from Pennsylvania and was entiltled to her opinion!

I, myself had wondered how Dick could get away with so much verbal abuse (eg...sticking his foot up Jen's behind until she bled)...well, because it was ALLOWED! (by the powers that be...none other than BB)

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I saw Dick verbally attack several houseguests. It is a fact that he did that. The article states that these attacks weren't always shown on tv. That's a fact, too.


Cmist
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09-20-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cmist a private message Print Post    
I know a lot of people seem to think that BB is like the "real" world but it isn't. The kind of stuff that has taken place this year may be a little more than previous years but some would argue that too I'm sure.
I remember houseguests(Amy and others)in prior years talking about the legalities of the contract they had to sign to come in the house.
I can only say that if anyone really believes they can break that legal contract that has to be signed in order to be allowed to play Big Brother then I say more power to you. I've heard that it's iron clad and that you pretty much give up all of your rights except to leave.
One more point, these people are considered actors and just look at some of the stuff we see in movies now days. These people may be living this show but they are actors just the same and they were cast to be a "specific" person and yes you can be assured they are prepped to be what BB wants them to be.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I don't think the hurt look on Jameka's face or the humiliation on the faces of the others is acting. "Acting" is not an excuse for being abusive to others. I know this is a game. But, Dick went too far. IMO.

Geri
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07-08-2003

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Geri a private message Print Post    
Good points Cmist.

Was kleenex the sponsor for Amber?

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
well..you'll notice I didn't mention Amber..LOL

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
8:59 pm Dani laughing as Dick starts in on Zach for the first time



9:41 pm Dick still going off



then Dani falls off
and Zach starts to Laugh



Flyincows
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07-17-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flyincows a private message Print Post    
lol, I don't blame Dick for being concerned about security!!

Kdee
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07-31-2006

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kdee a private message Print Post    
lol...Zach ...glad he laughed too