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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Use of Church/Organ Music Offensive or Fair?: ARCHIVES: Archive through August 13, 2007 users admin

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Bicbicz911
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08-20-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bicbicz911 a private message Print Post    
Music is funny and deserved, IMO.

Everyone has different religious backgrounds, and most religious beliefs are rock solid. I was personally taught that religion should be quiet and private. Obviously, this is not what everyone is taught.

When I see someone making a spectacle of their religion, in particular the way Amber is using it when she sees fit and then GD'ing her way through a sentence 5 minutes later... I am disgusted. I don't judge. Just observe.

So in my mind, the mockery is fitting.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
I didnt find the music wrong, I just think they are adapting music to what the people are doing. I did a radio interview and they said they had to pick out the right background music. I dont think BB is on purpose mocking religeon I think to much is being read into it!

Bicbicz911
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08-20-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bicbicz911 a private message Print Post    
I would like to clarify that I don't think BB is actually mocking religion, just specific behaviors.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 4:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
So since there isn't a private place in the BB house then Christians should just not pray or take their religion in the house with them? Sorry, I couldn't turn mine off and on that way. Of course, if I even wanted to go into the house, I couldn't.

I am still offended that BB feels the right to mock religion or certain behaviors, whatever. It is NO ONES place to judge whether Amber, Jameka or anyone else is true in their beliefs...that is God's place alone and I feel BB is making fun of them and their right to religion.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 4:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I respoect Jameka's right to her religion but would rather not have it in my face.

I think they are mocking the USE of relgion in this game of lies and deceit.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 4:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Isn't silent prayer an option? God can hear our thoughts, even thoughts that are not formulated, in silence.

Bicbicz911
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08-20-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 4:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bicbicz911 a private message Print Post    
Exactly, Sea!

Beruthiel
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08-07-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 4:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beruthiel a private message Print Post    
I agree with Sea and Bicbic, making such an overt issue of their faith has opened them up to being called on it.
Giving to charity, or doing good deeds for the benefit of others is supposed to be something done quietly and without fanfare, for example. If you brag about it, then you are doing it for YOUR benefit, not for the benefit of the recipients.
Likewise, one's relationship with God ought to be private and kept to one's self, not tossed into every situation or into everyone else's face, and, if they feel free to criticise Dick for NOT being a Christian, then what kind of Christian's are they? Not any I'd like to know.
CBS is just showing what they are. It makes me laugh. Guess that makes me evil. Oops!

Celticlass
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09-10-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Celticlass a private message Print Post    
Mocking Christianity? Oh, the Christian persecution in America malarky.

Jameka is USING religion as part of her game. In the past those that were very religious kept it private, and to themselves, and that was respected. When she started using it she opened it up to be used by BB.

Piper45840
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03-02-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Piper45840 a private message Print Post    
I totally agree with Sea and Bic. The music doesn't offend me at all. I think it's hilarious.

Bigsister
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09-02-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bigsister a private message Print Post    
The music does not offend me, either.

To me the music is sort of generic religious, not specifically for any particular religion. Used this way, it is making fun of Amber and Jameeka's religious-ness.

Landslide305
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08-15-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landslide305 a private message Print Post    
Perfectly said, Sea, Beruthial and Celticlass. You voiced exactly what I was thinking.

FTR, I'm perfectly ok with the organ music, especially for the spectacle Amber put on. @@

Danzdol
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04-21-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Danzdol a private message Print Post    
The first time I heard it I cracked up and still do. But, I am not that outspokenly religious and this is a tv show. My point being that if you are on it and you use GD left and right and pray out loud BB will take the bait and mock that part of it. Especially when someone calling themselves Evil is always bringing it up .

However I can see how it would be offensive to them when they get out and watch the tapes.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
I totally agree with Sea and Bic. The music doesn't offend me at all. I think it's hilarious.


My sentiments exactly!

Junerose
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07-20-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 6:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Junerose a private message Print Post    
I find the music very offensive.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 6:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Just the visual of Amber, eyes welling with tears, headphones on and then her impersonation of Jameka seeking strength and guidance was enhanced by the organ music. Totally hysterical.

It wasnt just the organ music, but her feeble attempt at getting camera time by copying Jameka was priceless. They remind me so much of Maggie/Ivette/Eric, that they will be liked by America more because they are the moral superiors. Are they in for some rude awakening.

Kaili
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08-31-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 6:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
I just want them to know that God is busy with football season now. He can't help them anymore. :-)

We were a little uncomfortable watching her crying and praying...until she asked god to help her win more competitions. Then we groaned again. Come on!

Swannanoa
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07-09-2007

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 6:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Swannanoa a private message Print Post    
I think the music isn't so much offensive as it is stupid. It almost sounds like bad background music for a bad movie.

And I'm sorry but Amber's praying---ok I laughed. I didn't mean to laugh but I was always taught (and believe it as well) that prayer was a personal conversation between God and me. So all this use of prayer out in the open is offensive to me as well as funny.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I think it's hilarious. I don't see why religion should be off-limits for editorial commentary.

Piper45840
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03-02-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Piper45840 a private message Print Post    
I just want them to know that God is busy with football season now. He can't help them anymore.

Kaili....that is priceless!!! That needs to go in the quote thread.

Nutsy
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08-14-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nutsy a private message Print Post    
GAL - I agree completely. Although it does seem as though CBS is intentionally poking fun at the whole thing, which I find very amusing, yet strange.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
the only thing missing was a little picture in picture of that Dana Carvey's old character "church Lady" from SNL,

Delilah
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07-08-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Delilah a private message Print Post    
I think the music is more of commentary on Amber and Jameka's piety than it is on Christianity or religion in general.

Chupey
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07-03-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chupey a private message Print Post    
I can't believe I didn't see this thread before! I rarely post (bigtime lurker though), but I really really wanted to talk about this!

I am a Christian, but I don't want to get into deciding what kind of Christian Jameka, or even Amber, might be. BUT, that organ music has been offending me BIGTIME ever since the first time they did it with Jameka. I completely feel they are making fun of her with it. I want to write to CBS and complain about it. I'm SO glad to see that I'm not the only one offended by it.

Now, BB does make fun of the HGs and always has. I'm SO glad to see it was brought up that they never did that with any of the other religious people who have been in the house in the past. Kaysar's praying was always treated with nothing but respect. It's just sleazy and creepy that this year BB decided it would be funny to make fun of the praying.

BB has finally crossed the line for me. If they want to show the praying, then that's fine. And go ahead and puzzle over how a person can be fighting and cussing one minute and then praying and crying the next. That's real. But don't add this organ music and turn it into a farce. BB, you've gone too far.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
You dont think it is a farce to have someone, laying on a bed with earphones, tears rolling down her cheeks as she pleads with God to help her with specific competitions. That visual just screams for organ music.