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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Jen/Dick Fight: Archive through August 21, 2007 users admin

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Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
C1 - what jen said was she asked before the show even started, if there was a smoker, could she break the cigs in half and throw them into the pool. They said yes.

Cut to last night - the smoker is Dick - a Donato - BB's pride and joy - then RULE CHANGE! LOL

Actually, I think BB is afraid of Dick and what he may have done, so they rethought the answer given to jen.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
You know it goes both ways. Was he egging her on when he blew the smoke in her face? If she wanted to push the envelope she should have walked over to the hose turned it on and sprayed him down with it and told him if he continues to blow smoke on her she will put the cig out for him. You gotta figure if dumping tea on someone is acceptable spraying someone down is acceptable as well LOL

Mandeenmatt
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07-29-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mandeenmatt a private message Print Post    
I just find it humourous when one person's actions are ok to some but not anothers.

I think this is the concensus of everyone.

Cruzlvr
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11-13-2003

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cruzlvr a private message Print Post    
Go to the live feed video (u-tube) thread and see my post at 12:38 a.m. This is a really good u-tube from a different angle. You can see and hear the smack that Jen gave Dick and decide for yourself.

Unfortunately, with all the u-tubes out there, each one is just a small portion in and of itself of what happened. Each individual one doesn't show the events and all that transpired prior to the smoke gate video.

With all these great sites/fans out there maybe someone will make some clips in the order that things happened.

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
i think they were both in the right. provided me with much entertainment. it's why i watch bb.

True for me, too! It's drama! It's intense! LOL

I see it the other way, though. I see them both in the WRONG, rather than RIGHT. :-)

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
First of all let me say...GO JEN.

Secondly, that Penalty Nom is SO worth her putting that POS in his place.

She is the only one with balls in that place. Male or Female they are all in my opinion afraid to do anything for fear he will come after them with what he gives Jen.

BTW, she did not "hit" him last night..she was SITTING down on the lounger and he blew smoke in her face. Unacceptable! She had ever right to tell him to back off and NOT to blow smoke in her face...apparently he thinks he's King of BB and she set him straight!

It amazes me how they all sat there last night bashing her. So So Sad this group is!

I'm so glad to see all the Jen Support! Keep sending her positive vibes!! :-)

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
Yep, I think she easily should have and could have dumped water on him. That would be w/ in the no physical contact rule apparently and it's what she should have done.

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
I wish I had a way to put the BBAD piece on youtube so people could see the whole thing and judge for themselves. I almost bought a new video camera but instead bought a dining room table on Sunday. I could have videotaped my TV and done it that way.

Fan3
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07-07-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fan3 a private message Print Post    
okay.. now tell me why it is okay to destroy ANYONE'S stuff??? if that was the case don't you think we would have seen it in other bb??? even howie didn't do this to april in all his rants... come on wrong is wrong...

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
C1 - I like your idea with the hose! unfortunately, I think it would result in an ugly ending with jen getting the worst of it.

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
I don't see that at all, IF Dick is the abuser some claim he is, wouldn't he have done it last night?

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
I see it the other way, though. I see them both in the WRONG, rather than RIGHT.

well, i meant right as in it kept going and provided me with entertainment. the who did what first etc doesn't factor in with me. drama is drama :-)

Shopstomuch
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07-09-2007

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shopstomuch a private message Print Post    
Sky, I have seen the whole thing... both on the live feeds and on BBAD and have it Tivo'ed I respectfully disagree completely w/ your take on it as I have said.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Abuse is not as simple as physically touching someone.

Mandeenmatt
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07-29-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mandeenmatt a private message Print Post    
It's hard not to, Amy. He is a violent person and is trying to control everyone in that house with his violence. That is what an abuser does. The difference is he is not her spouse, but it is still domestic abuse since they live together. So it may not be physical abuse, but I dont see how anyone can deny that it is definately verbal, mental and emotional abuse.

Amy
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07-10-2002

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Amy a private message Print Post    
How can you claim he is violent, vile maybe but violent?

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
BB has allowed this type of verbal abuse ever since BB2 with Nicole doing it

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
I know you disagree with it, Shop. (Ooops - just realized I had been seeing your name as Stop instead of Shop! Sorry!) You keep saying that but I wanted to let OTHERS see and decide for themselves rather than having to take your word or mine.

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
I did not "aim" my comments about beaten wives at anyone in particular...Sorry, if in three threads I read the same comments about Jen"asking for it" from EDick and I ttotally disagree. Just my opinion, I realize. I don't even read the posters names most of the time...merely the posts....

Having been an abused child, and being told the entire time that I was being BEATEN TO A PULP, that I "asked" for it....I do not think ANYOINE "deserves" or "asks for" being abused, verbally or pysically, and that is just MY opinion...you disagree....FINE!

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
BB has more camera angles than we have - physical contact is forbidden - they saw it from every angle - jen is still there - draw your own conclusion.

Or, you could believe that BB tossed the rule book on day 1. Or they're picking and choosing the rules to enforce. LOL

Fan3
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07-07-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fan3 a private message Print Post    
i bet if jen stays somehow the rules will change about the pen nom....everyone is forgetting she is Will's girl and bet you donuts that he will somehow step in and things will change.....

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I got this from Ryn's site...


quote:

The full details of the penalty nomination will be clarified in the morning it seems but they know enough that Zach, Eric and Dick seriously want to consider voting Jameka out. The plan hatched by Zach and Dick before they went to bed is as follows:

They would vote Jameka out this week.
They would all throw the HoH competition to Amber.
No matter whom Amber nominated, they would vote Jen out since she would also be nominated via the penalty.
Amber would be unable to compete in the next HoH so they would all target her for the next eviction.
Zach, Dick, Daniele, Eric and Jessica would be the final five.




Now I tell you, if this is truly the way the penalty nomination will work, I think it is unfair. If Amber were to get HOH she should be allowed to put up 2 people she wants...and break up the power of 2's

Cruzlvr
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11-13-2003

Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cruzlvr a private message Print Post    
I though Jen said she could NOT throw the cigs in the pool and that is why she didn't do it after she asked.

Someone in current household thread (I think) brought up a good point when all this happened. During any of Jen's saying the DR said she could destroy his cig/was getting a penalty nom or whatever did BB ever come over the loud speakers with a "HG you are not allowed to talk about your DR sessions with other HG". I don't think so, which a good sign it was probably not said in the DR.

Remember Dr. Will always used that line when working people - Well the DR said..... (fill in whatever line he handing people at the time). You always knew when he was giving a line of BS because the announcement never got made.