Author |
Message |
Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:16 pm
No tattoos here, don't drink or go to bars, but I'd rather spend time with Evel Dick than snobby Kail. I've spent my life avoiding women like her. He's a real person. I won't say what I think she is.
|
Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:23 pm
I've spent my life avoiding women like her join the club. I dont like that kind of personality. but that is just my opinion.
|
Uncle_ricky
Member
07-02-2007
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:35 pm
Let's not forget the highly irritating (and offensive to those of us who live it every day of our lives): "I wouldn't want a child of mine to choose a gay lifestyle." I'm so glad she has zero chance to win - I really hope that by this time next week she's back in her small town decimating the English language and sitting atop her Queen Bee throne.
|
Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:44 pm
I was offended when Kail said "a gay lifestyle." Gay people live as many different lifestyles as heterosexual people. Some are rich, some are middle income, some are poor. Some people (gay & heterosexual) are CEOs, actors, sports players, government officials, clergy, office workers, sales people, and some might be bar tenders or tatoo artists. Some people live in the city, some in the suburbs, some in the country, etc. People who call gay people living a "chosen gay lifestyle" are thinking of sterotypes - probably some people they see being flamboyant at a parade of some sort of event. She turned me off BIG TIME with that comment about "if one of her children chose a gay lifestyle." She was more or less saying being gay is a choice. I don't know anyone who chose to be gay, just as I don't know anyone who chose to be heterosexual. We just ARE. I don't care to be around people who judge others by what their job is or what the orientation is and just assume what they are like. Ok..rant over. ETA: You beat me to the post Uncle Ricky! I hadn't refreshed my page before I started typing.
|
Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 11:54 pm
I totally agree! In fact, Watching2, your post reminds me of couple of my own when that ignorant line has popped up. "Choosing" to live a "gay lifestyle" is an ignorant remark made by someone that doesn't know what she's talking about. There is no such thing as a "gay lifestyle"! Time to boot her back to where she came from!
|
Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 12:00 am
I don't know about anyone else but i know i never woke up one day and said "oh i like boys" it was just always there. Just like my brother never woke up and said "i like boys" he just always had.
|
Uncle_ricky
Member
07-02-2007
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 12:05 am
Watching -- I'm relieved I wasn't the only one who recalled that venomous barb! I totally agree with your observations, though -- I didn't think it was a rant at all -- it was an astute reminder about the asininity that's engendered by subscribing to stereotypes! Thanks, too, SFJF and Kalekona for weighing in!
|
Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 12:32 am
I couldn't agree more SFJF and Kale. My views exactly! Uncle_ricky - Having so many friends who are gay and having been with a huge mixed group of people of all orientations (but mostly gay) while we held silent vigils (Gandhi-style) in various cities, has made me acutely aware of the "lines" used by people who are ignorant. I've also been assumed gay because of the company I keep. I used to hang out in a gay chat and many "good intentioned" religious folks would come in and tell us we were going to hell because of our "lifestyles." It was always fun when I was the one targeted since I would ask questions "playing dumb." What do you mean by lifestyle? You mean paying taxes, picking my kids up from school? (Oh that would get some REALLY riled up thinking I was gay and had kids!) They didn't want to say "sex" (LOL) so they'd keep saying "you know... You know!!" I'd keep playing dumb and when they'd finally spit out I shouldn't be having any intimate relations because it was "sinful," I'd tell them my husband would be sorry to hear that. They often left our chat immediately. LOL Oh...the good ole days... haven't done that in years!! 
|
Uncle_ricky
Member
07-02-2007
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 1:18 am
What a great story, Watching -- I loved it. It reminds me a bit of the time, circa 1977, when I was 19 and working part-time in a downtown Los Angeles department store while in college. One of my college buddies, Ken, a devout Baptist from ultra-conservative Bakersfield, Calif., worked alongside me in the same department. One day a highly-effeminate man walked through our department. This prompted Ken to exclaim "Did you just see what I just saw?" To which I said, "Yeah. What about it?" Ken uneasily sputtered "Uhhh...I'm not used to seeing guys acting swishy like that." I gave Ken a frosty stare and said, "Well, the things that guy does in bed are probably the same things I do, so if we're going to continue being friends you're going to have to quit making fun of guys like him." I'll never forget the stunned look on Ken's face. After he got over the shock I proceeded to educate him on some more of the radical differences between life in L.A. and life in Bakersfield! And our friendship, fortunately, stayed strong for many years after that day.
|
Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 1:48 am
LOL! Love it! I had a gay friend who lived in Bakersfield for quite a while until and his partner broke up. Cheap to live there... not much to say about it! LOL At least that's what everyone who has ever lived in CA has told me, including my brother. 
|
Penpoint
Member
03-27-2001
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 1:55 am
Uncle Ricky brings up a good point about radical differences. I imagine that life and attitudes in small-town Oregon are radically different from those in big urban centers like New York, Chicago, or LA. So for Kail, this BB experience may be an education and will have an effect on her attitude toward gay people. Her interactions with Joe and Dustin have for the most part been fairly positive. On the other hand, her interactions with a heavily tattooed, pierced, dirty-mouthed bartender, <77> have been anything but positive. Thus, her bartender-tattoo comments cannot be a surprise, nor should they brand her as a snob. How can Kail be a snob? She's on a reality show, for heaven's sake! 
|
Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 2:02 am
I think for most people they have preconceived notions about various groups of people until they actually know someone from a "group." I would truly hope and pray that she does indeed change her views about gay people by her positive interactions w/two gay men and not feel, 'Too bad they live the 'gay lifestyle'. They're really nice people." Then again, I live in what is considered a very progressive "gay friendly" city/area (Rochester is well-known as being part of the underground railroad, the womens' right to vote <Susan B. Anthony> and more than I can list here, but we're known for civil rights) and I still hear comments such as those made by Kail in her DR during the first show, by more people than I can count. Kail is, however, making judgments on all tatooed people, bartenders, etc., as being someone "less then," at least from her comments. She says she's open-minded and not judgmental, but I don't get that feeling from her. Just my opinion. 
|
Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 2:06 am
But she was assuming that Dick's only fans would be people exactly like him. So.. who are Kail's fans? Only people who own entire small towns? Hmm? I think the main point being made was that Kail (and Jen) felt wildly superior to Dick.
|
Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 2:58 am
Well Eugene is not small town middle America. It home to the anarchists and tree huggers. Home to Ken Kesey and the merry pranksters. Author of "one flew over the cuckoos nest" organizer of "the electric kool-aide acid test" Oregon is the state that voted in assisted suicide and medical marijuana. They are not uninformed unless they choose to be, Kail clearly has done just that.
|
Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 4:17 am
"Little Miss, I own the town and all the people in it," has tried to pretend she is from small town America. She plays dumb.. How many people in 2007 with teenage children can claim she has never heard some of the stuff she has? Unless she lives in Smalltown Stepford she is full of it. Eugene is a very liberal city and with her ideas and obvious openness about her feelings I don't imagine she has many people who do like her very much.
|
Jandy
Member
07-08-2005
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 4:25 am
"My family Owns this town"...made me think the people in her town must be surprised to hear that. wonder what the reception will be when Kail returns??
|
Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 5:36 am
I just read a post on another site that said they had been to McKenzie Pass and it's not a town, it's a wide spot. By the way none of her businesses are in McKenzie Pass, her real estate ad is not listed in the local paper, which by the way hasn't had an edition since June 14 ( I couldn't find anything since then, so "her" town didn't even put out a special edition for her..hahahahaha). McKenzie Pass is a small unincorporated area within KcKenzie River, inside of Lane Country 50 miles from Eugene. By the way she and her husband own a rest/bar in Blue (something), Or. so does that make her a bartender, the wife of a bartender or the owner of a bartender?
|
Cutefemgirl
Member
07-12-2007
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 6:20 am
They also own some kind of Bed/Breakfast/Hotel. Either way ... I'm sure that the people who live in "her vicinity" are shocked to hear she "owns them" ... how obnoxious can you be?
|
Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 6:54 am
I am not a fan of Kail. I haven't been since she walked into the house. As a non fan I will be happy if she leave this week. As a person I think it will be best if she goes sooner rather then later, before anymore damage is done. Yesterday I somehow found myself at a web-site that a lot of people from her area were posting at. From that site it doesn't seem like Kail is going to get a very warm reception from home. For every one person that posted something nice about Kail they were outnumbered by about 6 to 1 with not so nice things to say. Some were quite bad. Even people she went to high school with were popping up. Things about her brother and his personal life were also posted. The only thing everyone seemed to agree on was that her husband is a great guy. It just seemed like all the people from her area that never cared for Kail now have a free pass to hop on the Hate Kail Bandwagon. I tend to be a bit of a PollyAnna so it bothers me when it looks like the lines between game and RL are crossed. I just feel the best place for Kail right now is not on TV. It always surprises me when people with skeletons in their closet show up on TV thinking those skeletons will stay there. Anyone that has ever watched before knows they not only come out they dance around with hats on. BTW I am in no way saying the things they posted about Kail are true. I don't know Kail, her husband or her brother. I just think people with families and careers should really give shows like BB a lot of thought before applying for a key and not just Kail but many others before her.
|
Nessietessie
Member
02-03-2007
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 6:58 am
I am not gay. I do not have any tattoos. I am not a bartender. I am nothing like Dick. I do not "own" my town. I am nothing like Kail. One of my cousins is gay. He is the nicest guy you would want to be with. Funny, loyal, compassionate. In my younger days, tattoos for women seemed to be taboo. My granddaughter has one on her arm...it's cute, looks like a bracelet. I like to go to a bar and have a drink. Kail turned me off the first night of BB when she was bragging about "owning her town." I would rather hang out with Dick any day than Kail. Dick has a heart.
|
Ladybug6377
Member
09-04-2006
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 7:24 am
Don't like Kail atall.
|
What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 7:26 am
Kail a snob? Say it is not so! I am shocked, I tell you! Shocked!

|
Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 7:52 am
Kail ?! Don't know if anyone posted this link before. And this one.
|
Amykat
Member
07-24-2005
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 8:11 am
Biloxibelle, what site is it? Thanks!
|
Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 8:15 am
I am not gay. I live in a gay neighborhood. I am not a tattoo artist. I have one tattoo, soon to get another. I don't drink. I don't hang out in bars. Any more. Kail walked into the house with a huge chip on her shoulder and about 10 strikes against her. That became evident when she first opened her mouth to talk about "her town" and "gay lifestyles." She has done nothing since to redeem herself. Is she a snob? I dunno. I just know that I would rather spend time with Dick. And I probably wouldn't give Kail the time of day.
|