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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:55 pm
Ask and ye shall receive Sunshyne! Dick's heart to heart with Jameka. lol ... at what I wrote there .... I never promised to be unbiased. (Princess Bride fans will also find this one amusing!)
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 3:10 pm
Clio, we'll have to agree to disagree on the AP reveal as I feel strongly that not giving the jury that information to consider is not fair. Further, if they do it after the winner is announced, it takes away from his moment in the spotlight. And we know what airtime means to all of them! LOL
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 3:34 pm
But Tres ..... Eric still has one more vote to cast as AP ....... if the jury finds out about that before they vote and then they have the understanding that Dick is popular and may win the last AP vote, they could all vote against him just to spite that. How would that be fair? What am I missing?
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Redpen
Member
07-24-2003
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 3:40 pm
Remember, whichever Donato is not in the final 2, won't go to the Jury House and will have at most, a few hours with the others. Not enough time, IMO, to be of much influence. At this point, anything Dick would say to the jury will probably bounce right off them.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 3:48 pm
Clio, I do see your point that the jury may take the AP vote to mean that Dick is popular, but they could also take it to mean that saving Dick was meant to help Eric advance in the game. I think the jury would vote based on their own individual criteria in any case. If they know about the AP twist before voting, they still will not know for whom we voted. I'm assuming that we will cast Eric's vote not that Eric will have to lobby for the person we select.
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 3:58 pm
Yeah, but if they find out about AP and also find out how popular Dick has been with that, (and how can you divulge one without the other?) they logically they will assume that the last AP vote will also be for Dick. I understand that Zach could plausably beat Dick as far as the AP goes now but THEY dont know that.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:04 pm
If the jury decides to vote based on Dick's popularity, I would say that's their choice. I truly doubt that after 2 1/2 months they'd cast their votes based on that. I'd still prefer for them to know about the twist so they can make an informed decision. But it's not in my hands so we'll have to wait and see what AG has decided.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:06 pm
Interesting about Dustin.. he turned out to be a pretender to that crown. Recently I wondered why he had left it in the house. Turns out that crown was won by Jameka.. Dustin merely co-opted it. The jury shouldn't care who is popular but just vote based upon what matters to each of them.. gameplay, the person, whatever.
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Jucylucy
Member
08-23-2005
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:10 pm
I am betting that the AP twist is not revealed until all but Eric has voted. Then they will say that Eric's vote is and has been actually America's vote. Thats when AP is disclosed and then America's vote shown and then the winner declared, jmo.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:10 pm
My guess is they tell the jury about the AP AFTER they do their "official" vote Saturday after the jury questioning but before the finale for a few reasons: -the "putting the keys in the box" at the finale is believed to be just for show-they make the official vote earlier. -they don't want any suprises at the finale, so they'll tape the reveal and reactions to the jury most likely. They'll explain it to the finalists on Tuesday. -they let the jury watch the full tapes before the finale usually, so the AP twist has to be shown to them beforehand otherwise they can't show them the shows. -Eric's vote will either be revealed first or last IMO. If it's first, then it's moot; one of the players got 4 of the other 6 votes and won that way, but they do want to show who America voted for. If it's last, that's because the other 6 votes are split 3-3, and America ends up deciding the winner, so they'll hype it for maximum suspense (you know, one vote for one person, one for the other, etc.)
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:12 pm
Sea, your mention of Dustin reminded me of the rumor that he'd heard about the AP after he left the house. And I still believe that Jen knew something based on her Mr. America comment to Eric. I wonder if we'll ever know the truth about it.
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:23 pm
Yep Jucy, I was just thinking that too .... They'll make sure Eric's vote is the deciding vote (ie, what order it's pulled out of the box) like they did Will's last year for Boogie. I'll keep my eye out for that ... see if I can fall the vote before Julie's done announcing it. Of course, HOPEFULLY, I've already called the vote if you know what I mean. lol
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 7:28 pm
I'm back to say just one more thing.... SO glad all the things we talked about today wont matter now! THANK you all so much for helping me get through such a "nervousing" day!!!! I would have pulled out my hair otherwise lol.
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