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Dick's Alleged Arrest Record

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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That would be extremely unusual.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Jimmer?

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Dick admitted he was arrested for pot, but that's not on the Smoking Gun either. Perhaps they just don't find BB that interesting this year, or they have bigger fish to fry.

I heard a report on the news last night (CNN) that said on *average* people drive drunk NINETY times before they are caught driving drunk. That just shocked the heck out of me.

Granted, there are always individual circumstances.

As for this record being "pay per view" that depends on the state you are in. Some states the records are free, some states (like my own) you have to pay to see arrest records. Not sure what California dictates in that matter.

Bottom line, we don't know if this is accurate. It's interesting nonetheless.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
The codes don't seem to match up to what was posted. imo

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/calawquery?codesection=pen&codebody=&hits=20

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 12:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I hesitate to mention it because I don't want to minimize the danger of drinking and driving. However, the reality is that someone has to drink a fair amount over a short period of time before he or she is legally impaired. For example, a couple of drinks over the course of a regular dinner is not likely to legally impair someone.

So someone who is picked up on a DUI (but not as the result of an accident) has usually had a lot to drink.

Now, of course, a person doesn't have to be legally impaired to be affected and do something stupid while driving, which is why any drinking and driving can be dangerous.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Karuuna...In California, one is not actually arrested. One is cited with a ticket and does community service and takes classes.

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
Wherever these charges are is there a picture that shows this is the same Dick? When I do searches where I live I have to be careful of looking for DOB and address (or last known) to make sure I have the right person.

Scubalass
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07-01-2004

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 11:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scubalass a private message Print Post    
I would like to know what the convictions were ... innocent until proven guilty

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 12:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
<<He put the keys in the ignition to listen to music while lying alone, instead of being bored. Cops drive by, see him lying in the car, and the keys in the ignition. He is now charged with DUI>>

unreal! what an abuse of power

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 1:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
Regarding Dick... the 'alleged' spousal abuse charge does not surprise me. The way he poured tea on Jen's head, burned her with his cig, the verbal lashings, etc, not to mention the drugs/alcohol, had already led me to believe that he was probably physically violent with his exes. I mean, if he was willing to act this way in front of the viewing public, I can only imagine what he is capable of behind closed doors.

I agree that the silencer allegation is scariest of all.

If these charges are real, regardless of whether he was convicted, and even if they were a decade ago, I don't think BB should have cast him.

Jen and others should not have been put at this kind of risk.

Tempted to write to BB about this.

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 3:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
Many refuse to believe it but the dates of arrest are on record.

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 3:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
How can it be alleged when it is on U.S. Public Records online for all to see. It's amazing that people defend this guy even going so are as saying "alledged? " It's not alledged it's public record, <77>

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 3:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
The more serious the crime, the more important it should be to assume innocent until conviction.

ONE charge (without a backup conviction) does not equal spousal abuser.

I've known many ugly divorces where one spouse will charge abuse against the other to gain an unfair advantage in the proceedings....to the point of having the other spouse unfairly charged in court AND arressted (because they do not take chances with these kinds of complaints.

THOSE kinds of charges are almost always thrown out of court...hence the need for "innocent until proven" thought.

I don't necessarily think that anyone is guilty simply because they were charged...and I feverently hope that if I ever AM charged with something....that my 'peers' wouldn't automatically assume my guilt because of those charges....

Show me the conviction....then I might change my mind...

Lafatme
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06-23-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 3:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lafatme a private message Print Post    
20 million people live in socal. you guys sound like you think there's only ONE dick donato in town.

rumors and proof are not the same thing <77>

Azriel
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08-01-2000

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 3:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Azriel a private message Print Post    
How can it be alleged when it is on U.S. Public Records online for all to see.

It's not like US Public records is an official US government website. Should we believe everything we read on the internet? Did you pay the money to check out that it was really even on that site?

Streetsmart
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08-06-2006

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 4:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Streetsmart a private message Print Post    
WOW what a surprise that he was arrested for SPOUSAL ABUSE!

Not cool and i guess its not strategy to intimidate women.

Madelane
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08-20-2001

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 5:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Madelane a private message Print Post    
Shairina, FYI, an arrest for that sort of situation is common and not an "abuse of power." First I would say that based on the circumstances as they were described, it is likely that the prosecutor will not end up pursuing charges. But technically, under the Actual Physical Control (APC) theory built into DUI laws, he is guilty of DUI. APC says that anyone intoxicated, in the car, and having access to the keys is guilty of DUI. The idea being that they could drive off at any moment. These cases are hard to prove and usually not worth taking to trial. I lost one at trial. So, the officer wasn't a jerk to arrest, but no jury is going to convict that young man for DUI. What some people do, if they have to pass out in their car in a situation like that, is hide the keys under the tires or something so they can't be arrested for APC.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 5:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
how do we even know if Dick was married to anyone on that date? and, ditto what Azriel said - you must pay to see these records. has anyone actually done that?

Kaili
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08-31-2000

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 5:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
Wisconsin has a free Circuit Court Access website (I love it). Records are there whether or not you are found guilty. I've looked up people and found stuff on them, but then see they had been found Not Guilty or the charges were dismissed.

I would also want to be sure of how many Richard Donatos live (or have lived) in the state of California. I work with a guy whose last name isn't particularly common but there are two of him in the same city of 50,000 people.

However, I wouldn't be totally shocked if these are him.

Landi
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07-29-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landi a private message Print Post    
#1. those ARE NOT the #'s for the Penal Codes in California. it's really easy to do a google search on the code numbers.

#2. These were posted on a reality board sight which states they are "Alleged" not fact.

#3. Smoking Gun has not posted anything about Dick.

#4. California records are free, they don't come from a "pay to see" website.


Kappy
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06-29-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Dick is completely innocent and Nick is 100% straight.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
actually, Los Angeles County, California charges a fee to search records on the internet:

Los Angeles Superior Court

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Reminder - you may NOT say negative things about other posters at TVCH. You may express your own opinion about the issue only.

Ugly remarks about other posters may lead to the suspension of your TVCH account.


Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 4:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
Madelane - interesting, thanks for the info. I am an attorney too actually, but haven't handled DUIs.

Okay, maybe the police officer wasn't abusing his power, but it seems like a bogus law imo. If the car is parked how can it be said it be said that someone is 'DRIVING under the influence??' Intoxicated persons should be able to listen to the radio while resting in their car. Sheesh.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 6:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
The post on bb8spoiler that started this thread now says that this report is most likely a fake, and everything on it has been crossed off. http://www.bb8spoiler.com/?p=1256

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 7:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
QUOTE:"I mean, if he was willing to act this way in front of the viewing public, I can only imagine what he is capable of behind closed doors. "

Something tells me that Dick acts the same behind closed doors as he does in front of open doors. I don't think he's any different either way. He is who he is and I don't think he tries to be anything different.

Indigospy
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08-03-2003

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 7:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Indigospy a private message Print Post    
Just a note:
There are three men named Richard Louis Donato living in the state of California aged 44.

Dick's legal name is Danny Spencer.

These are just two more reasons to conclude that this arrest record is either a fraud or pertains to someone other than our beloved Dick.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
Sharinia, as a former professional drunk (read alcoholic) I was well aware of that part of the DUI laws. Way back in the day I got my car stuck, and even though I was shit-faced drunk I took the keys out of the car, stuck them in the glove box, and slept it off. Or tried to - I was awakened by one of my city's finest...no DUI, but a disorderly conduct. (Please do not crucify for my past behaviors - I thank God everyday I never hurt anyone while driving impaired.)

Saba
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05-27-2004

Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 4:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saba a private message Print Post    
Dick was talking on Showtime a night ago about the different jails he has been in and about his DUI's

Azriel
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Azriel a private message Print Post    
Saba, I don't think it's Dick's DUIs or jail time that we question. A lot of us believe that the spousal abuse charge in this report makes the whole report a hoax.