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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Jameka:Deal or No Deal?: Archive through September 03, 2007 users admin

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Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
For those of you who haven't heard, Dick/Dani's plan for now is to tell Jameka she's going (which they've done)....but then, just before the live show, make her an offer: If she's willing to vote D/D's way next week (which of course, is going to be on Thursday's Fast Forward Double Eviction show, but they don't know this), and/or she's willing to use or not use POV if she wins it D/D's way, they'll blindside Jess/Eric and vote Jess out. If she refuses, she's gone.

If you were Jameka, would you take the deal? Do you think she'll take the deal?
(since Jameka has said she doesn't want to stoop to D/D's level. On the other hand, if she can survive the double eviction, she's in the final 4, she can play for HOH again, and likely one of D/D won't be able to-since if they go with this deal, D/D would win HOH against a shattered Eric and Eric would be the 2nd person gone this Thursday if he didn't win POV- so it would be one of D/D, Zach, and Jameka for HOH- so long as Jameka won EITHER HOH or POV at F4, she's in the F3, then it's anyones game)

Bicbicz911
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08-20-2005

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bicbicz911 a private message Print Post    
She would be really dumb not to take it. She doesn't know they plan to get rid of Jess, so it would be perceived by her as her only chance to stay in the game.

I am fascinated to see what she decides. It's time to choose between principles and the love of money.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
I would take the deal...I would want to stay in the house with Dick...I could win against him, hell anyone could win against him.

Will Jameka do it?? That is hard to say...but I think she might, just because I think she wants to play the game...

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I'd say sure and then see what happened. For one thing, she cannot compete for the next HOH. Then she sees who gets hoh and who goes up and even then she can throw pov.

But she can't do any of that if she doesn't stay.

Maybe she can cross her fingers or word things so she isn't really swearing and certainly she won't be running to get the Bible. She considers Dick to represent evil and I guess you can lie to the devil..

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Jameka's faith wouldn't allow her an "out" like she had her fingers crossed while swearing on the bible to her Lord, Jesus Christ (which is what ED wants her to do.) She'll either agree to it and do it, or she won't agree to it and be voted out. I think that as much as Jameka wants to win, she'll believe that ED's plan is a test of her faith. It will be "The Devil" tempting her with the possibility of money. She believes that everything is preordained and that she is there for a reason. When ED makes her that offer, she'll think that the reason she has been on BB is not to win the money, but to prove that she follows Jesus and won't succumb to temptation. Jameka is no dummy, and given only 10 or 15 minutes before the live show to make her decision, I believe that is enough time for her to have the epiphany and choose "her faith in God" over "money." Remember, the bible says the love of money is the root of all evil (not money is the root of all evil, that's a common misconception.) She will see ED as the snake in the Garden and the money from BB as the apple. She will refuse and be voted out.

Christiii
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07-07-2005

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Christiii a private message Print Post    
deal

Carochar
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07-25-2005

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carochar a private message Print Post    
Darclyte: That's brilliant -- and totally the way that I see it. Great minds....

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
She'd have to know that if she takes the deal, it means Jess would go. I hope she isn't in such a follower mentality that she will take the deal just to stay and then play on her own. I hope she let's Dick threaten her; says nothing and ignores what he says. Seems to work for Zach.

Battlestar
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07-27-2005

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Battlestar a private message Print Post    
There was once a man sitting on his roof with water surrounding him--the water was rising. A man in a canoe paddled up and offered to take him off the roof to safety
"No" said the man, "God will take care of me"
--next a motorboat came near and offered him a ride
"No" said the man, "God will take care of me"
---finally a helicopter lowered a rope and again the man said
"No" said the man, "God will take care of me"

The water rose and the man drowned and he then found himself in front of God---"God, I waited for you and you never came"

God replied "I sent you a canoe, a motorboat and a helicopter--why did you refuse my help"

Gusmonster
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06-01-2005

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gusmonster a private message Print Post    
I think whatever she does she won't be voted out. It's in D/D's best interest to vote out Jess. I think she'll refuse to swear on the bible period but if she agrees without the bible and then breaks her word I sure won't hold it against her. She has a right to play the game just like everyone else.

Mysticlady
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07-05-2007

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mysticlady a private message Print Post    
I see it that way, too, Darclyte. That was a very articulate way of stating that. Great job!

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
Of course she will take the deal. Final 5 ..u betcha!

This is a "game" you take whatever keeps u in the longest. She can play HOH Thursday right?

It would be a sweet deal for Jam since the DE is Thursday.

Messalina
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06-19-2005

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Messalina a private message Print Post    
Darclyte ... "Remember, the bible says the love of money is the root of all evil (not money is the root of all evil, that's a common misconception.)"

Another one that is frequently mis-quoted is "pride goes before a fall". Actually, it's more like..."Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall." Or something like that.

Anyway, Jameka could very well justify taking Dick up on his offer by saying that God wants her to advance in the game so she can win more money to do God's work. I don't know--I kinda think she'll take the deal. I hope so because I really would like to see her in F2.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
Definitely take the deal.

Whether or not you honor it is a different thing all together.

I would say "Sure thing." And then have no problems going back on my word and doing something else next time around.

Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
I hate to say this, I would take the deal, but I sure wouldn't follow through with it.

And I really wouldn't blame Jameka if she did the same.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Ummmm, could I wait and see if D&D will change their mind again? Well, only one person is making decision for the pair.

I want to wait and see if Dani will change her mind again.
Or maybe Eric would think about persuading Dani. Paint a picture different than Dani's own for her.

It's only Monday! :-)

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
another thing is, Jameka has never liked Dick/Zach it seems like...Dani to a certain point as well. The main issue seems to be, can she live with herself whatever decision she makes....because if she takes the deal,and gets knocked out at final 4 anyway she's helped the 3 people she dislikes most (D/D/Z) make it to the final 3. If she doesn't take the deal, Jess/Eric, who she's friendly with, at least have a outside chance to change things so at least one of them make final 2, but she's out. This is one of the more interesting dilemmas I've seen in this game...

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
We know that whatever she does, she won't be voted out. My only hope is that she realizes that and says "No deal." It would be awesome.

Redhawk
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05-23-2007

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Redhawk a private message Print Post    
I think the Donatos plan to evict Jessica whether Jameka agrees to the deal or not.

The offer to Jameka was just another way of them leveraging their power in the house to get even more.

Jameka don't do it!

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
She should take the deal. If the next noms are Zach and Eric, I don't think she will care which one leaves. Only if one or both of the d/d were up and she wasn't would she have to consider going back on her promise. It's in her best interest to say deal.

Askme_who_ur
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08-19-2006

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Askme_who_ur a private message Print Post    
Darclyte ... "Remember, the bible says the love of money is the root of all evil (not money is the root of all evil, that's a common misconception.)"

Actually, the Bible says it is the root of many kinds of evil. not ALL that is another misconception.

Roppiepie
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05-06-2004

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roppiepie a private message Print Post    
Yeah, Battlestar! Take it, Jameka!

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
No, I think they'll vote Jameka out if she doesn't take it actually. If she doesn't, and they vote Jess out anyway, it becomes very tricky...

-If Eric wins HOH, one of them is gone for sure (he'll nom D/D, and POV can save one of them-but Eric breaks a 1-1 tie)

-If D/D wins veto, and they nom Jameka despite the deal, whether she ends up going or not, she knows it's 3-1 in F4...and if she goes F4, she'll vote for Zach over D/D.

-If D/D wins HOH,and they DON'T nom Jameka (say nom Eric/Zach with Eric being the target), and Jameka wins POV and takes Eric off-Then whoever is HOH of D/D is FORCED to put up the other person...and Eric and Jameka control the vote!!!

-and all this now is basically endgame-D/D have pretty much determined the only way one of them wins is if they're both in the final 2, so one of them will have to win every HOH and POV from here on out. If they get one bad competition result or something goes screwy, they're out $500K.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I thought they would make a deal with Jameka after Jessica was gone... They don't need to make any deals for Jessica to go... Jameka can't play HOH and D/D play with Eric with more chances for Daniele to throw HOH to Dick and nominate Eric and Jameka. Dick could break the tie and Eric is gone on Thursday with Jessica.

Dick should have kept his mouth shut instead of telling Jameka she stays... and the deal making would make Eric and Jessica find out since Jameka won't keep quiet.. Daniele wanted to keep it simple, Jessica and then Eric. She doesn't need to make any deals with Jameka if they really think about it.

The more they're trying to make unnecessary deals the more the'll screw up...

Keep quiet. Evict Jessica. Daniele throws HOH to Dick. Zach and Eric up. Eric gone.

Next week. Daniele, Jameka and Zach are all tied to a key... who do you think will win?? Daniele. So. No need to make any deals with Jameka.

I hope they keep quiet until Thursday...

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
jameka is expecting to be approached. she isnt a fool.

She told Jess the other night she had a plan. Mind you, that could have been the wine talking LOL

I think something that has slipped D n D's minds is that we have yet to have a double eviction. There will be no Time to 'get to' jameka to tell her WHOM to vote for.

This will help Jameka avoid the need to hold true to her Deal.

after all, she could claim she didnt know whom they wanted out because there was no chance to talk about it.