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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Use of Church/Organ Music Offensive or Fair?: ARCHIVES: Archive through August 13, 2007 users admin

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Chicogirl
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07-23-2007

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chicogirl a private message Print Post    
It was a live show just for us. I was a bit surprised by that comment myself.
She doesn't have custody of her child, right?

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
I love the organ music. They see Amber for what she is. She will pray one minute then use God's name in vane the next. She's a Fake Prayer absolutely.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
I don't recommend a Vitamin B12 shot for anyone...unless they enjoy pain.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Amber and Jameka's view of Christianity is different from some peoples (including mine) but I'm not about to say that they aren't sincere in their beliefs.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
My view in a nut shell...

Christians are supposed to SERVE God.

Not the other way around.

Chicogirl
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07-23-2007

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chicogirl a private message Print Post    
Kearie, I agree 100%. That's how I was raised.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I agree Zmom - I really felt she was pandering to the Live Feeds and America... I dont get that sense from Jameka, and I have a feeling Jameka will be upset with the way she is portrayed -

altho Amber will cry about it!! That annoys me, and I think she does make herself cry, I dont know if she thinks she is being manipulative with all that crying and praying...

But as to the organ music... I'm laughing, and I do wonder about it going overboard... I'm not sure I know where the line is...

Chouchou
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08-09-2007

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chouchou a private message Print Post    
I agree Jimmer. These two girls are numb to themselves. They are not watching themselves 24/7 the way we are watching them. They think they are good Christians. They are not watching for each moment they do something wrong, so how should they know when they've "messed up?" Like Jameka said, no Christian is perfect. So of course they are going to contradict what is the "Christian thing to do" here and there. But that doesn't mean they don't have every right to believe in their heart of hearts they are good Christians.

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
Has anyone objected to Amber praying while listening to Toby Keith? I'm just asking...

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
LOL Tresbien (I was wondering about that myself)!!! At least Amber said "excuse me" to God when she was praying.



Kimsue
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07-08-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kimsue a private message Print Post    
I gotta say..........This is so funny! The fact that we even have a thread to discuss this is even more funny.
The people in this house signed away all their rights to privacy when they walked through the door. If BB producers want to play the Barney Song while they pray, they (or we) have no say in the matter.
Controversial TV brings up the ratings.

I can only imagine what music they would play if I were there and praying to The Goddess for peace and a calming spirit. I can almost hear the music to a bad old movie playing in the back round.

What about if there were a practicing Wiccan in the house and she cast a circle and wanted to practice her faith. Would we all be talking about that too? Would CBS show it on the TV show? Would the Christians be offended? I don't remember being this much discussion over Kaser praying. I guess we were all trying so hard to be PC.
I think we all pray (or not) in the way that makes us feel the strongest and closer to our respective Deity.
As for back round music........I would like to see CBS use more popular and up to date music. I saw a commercial on TV a while back for a Christian rock band. The music was kinda catchy.

Aunt_bob
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08-21-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 11:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aunt_bob a private message Print Post    
Quote: Askme_who_ur - Monday Aug 13, 2007 - 8:16 am

Does the organ music offend me ? Yes it does.

You need to remember these people are here 24/7 and if someone professes to be a Christian then praying is something that you do. As a Christian,we believe God to be our Father and as such you can talk to him about anything.
But everyone is at a different place in their walk with God and Amber seems to be a very immature christian. I see more maturity in Jameka. I agree with an earlier poster, who said being in that house with Dick 24/7 would drive most anyone to want to strike back. I don't condone what Jameka said but after seeing Dick's rantings it is quite understandable.

Does it surprise me that CBS is so disrespecful? No ! They manipulate the hamsters inside the house and they are trying to do the same with the viewers !


Amen, ITA. Thank You

Kimsue
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07-08-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kimsue a private message Print Post    
Aunt....Why is it disrespectful? I am really truely asking this question because I don't know? Don't Christian churches play organ and piano music at church? I am not trying to be a smart a$$. I want to understand.

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
I have to admit they have overrused the organ music a bit. My hackles did rise a tad on Sunday night. But on the other hand, Jameka and Amber are ranting--literally blabbering words, sometimes meaningless ones--out loud in a house with cameras and microphones. They do look a little nutso. They are perfectly capable of keeping their words to God private by praying in silence. No one can make fun of that, then.

Jog my memory--didn't Kaysar's prayers get some kind of mystic/Arab music put over them? I feel like Jee's ceremony for his father got Korean music, too. If the producers don't get points for classiness, they at least get points for accurate stereotyping.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Kimsue, CBS/Alison G. are mocking Jameka's and other Christians beliefs by playing this music.

Chicogirl
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07-23-2007

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chicogirl a private message Print Post    
Kimsue, I think if a Wiccan were in the house and attempted to cast a circle to practice her faith, the uproar from the Christian community would be horrific.
I could just see the how that would play out.

Kimsue
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07-08-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kimsue a private message Print Post    
I don't see it........If they are showing this side of their personality then why is it mocking or offensive to play Christian music in the back round?

Ivory_mist
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08-31-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ivory_mist a private message Print Post    
they are just providing the right ambiance for the scripture....all good!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
To me it is totally obvious that BB is not playing the organ music in the background as a tribute to Amber and Jameka's Christian beliefs. They are doing it because they find it funny.

One of the difficulties or joys (depending on perspective) in watching BB is that the viewer tends to personalize the game. The viewer relates to certain HGs or the beliefs of certain HGs and then when those HGs or their beliefs are attacked or made fun of it then becomes very personal to the viewer.

The question for me is, is BB making fun of Amber and Jameka (as they make fun of other HGs) or is BB making fun of Christianity? I think it is okay for BB to make fun of Amber and Jameka in the sense that they signed up for the game and knew what it entailed. I am much less comfortable about BB making fun of Christianity. However, it is not clear that they are doing that since as far as I can recall they haven't made fun of anyone's Christian or religious beliefs in the past (see Jason or Kaysar or Andria and Natalie).

Nevertheless, the organ music makes me uncomfortable as I know if offends a lot of people that I care about.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
Kimsue, I think if a Wiccan was in the house practicing their religion we would all talk about it. Hopefully people (like me) who don't know much about the Wiccan religion would learn something. It's upsetting to me that self-proclaimed Christians are so intolerant of other beliefs. Jesus told His followers to be a witness. Honestly, I get excited when someone notices the way I handle difficult situations and asks me what is it I've got that gets me through. And I agree with Dick - if this is a representation of their religion I'll have to pass. (Which is why I'm not so much into organized religion, but concentrate on my personal relationship with God.)

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
As a Christian it is not BB playing the organ music that is disrespectful it is Jameka USING God in the game.

Kayser had no problem practicing his faith in the house without using it for self gain.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
bravo bluejax bravo!

i would also never believe that i am a better person because i have accepted jesus as my savior. i need to be gods steward to show gods love and mercy.

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
I think some people just need anything to feel negative about.

I love that they have music to fit what's going on in each segment that warrants it. I'm watch to laugh and have fun. At this point in the game I don't care who wins...I just want entertainment.

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
Amen (no pun intended) Kalekona!!

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Askme_who_ur and Aunt_bob...I couldn't agree more!

This year CBS/BB is making me totally rethink my summer viewing pleasure...first the fouls mouths on nearly everyone in the house...and now their making fun (and yes this is HOW I SEE IT) of Christians.

There has been a lotta stuff in the house this year that is VERY offensive...so much so that I can't watch ALL of the live feed videos...I start watching them, but am very on guard to what direction they are taking.