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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 5:05 am
Last time I checked, truth and opinion are not the same thing. Both of those articles are stating the authors' opinions, they are not stating "truths" only "beliefs." truth Pronunciation[trooth] –noun, plural truths Spelled Pronunciation [troothz, trooths] 1. the true or actual state of a matter 2. conformity with fact or reality; verity 3. a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like 4. the state or character of being true. 5. actuality or actual existence. 6. an obvious or accepted fact; truism; platitude. 7. honesty; integrity; truthfulness. 8. (often initial capital letter) ideal or fundamental reality apart from and transcending perceived experience 9. agreement with a standard or original. 10. accuracy, as of position or adjustment. 11. Archaic. fidelity or constancy. —Idiom 12. in truth, in reality; in fact; actually o·pin·ion Pronunciation[uh-pin-yuhn] 1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. 2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal. 3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion. 4. Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case. 5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc. 6. a favorable estimate; esteem
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Nicedupa
Member
08-18-2007
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 5:15 am
If Dick invests in earplugs (LOTS), I think their relationship will be a success.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 5:33 am
All the articles referenced are just that. One person's OPINION, no better or no worse than any poster anywhere.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 7:37 am
I'm reading the first article and am stuck where Dick takes the champagne glass and wants Dani to have one, too. Now aren't these the same people who made a HUGE deal out of Zach taking a teacup and saying he isn't allowed to just steal whatever he wants out of the house? Oh, I forgot, the Donatos make their own rules. I don't believe Dani trusts Dick at all outside the game and, without trust and acceptance, this relationship will not flourish. In the several years that Dani broke off contact with Dick, if he sincerely wanted to fix things, why didn't he go to counseling alone to work on himself?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 8:23 am
Reminder: bashing and personal attacks on houseguests and TVCH posters are not permitted at TVCH. If your post was removed, it was because you violated one of these rules.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 8:45 am
Well scripted. This is all so well scripted. I said several weeks ago and I'll say it again --Allison has planned these final days to be up and down in the D/D soap opera. They will get close then they will fight. Then they'll get close again, then they'll fight again. In the end, on Tuesday, they will hug and cry and reconcile and each will be asked if they can now get along and each will say yes and Allison's summer soap opera will have a happy ending. It will be so tearfully beautiful for the viewers! And so well scripted.
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Bygdatty
Member
08-25-2007
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 8:58 am
I think the reason why their relationship will not improve is that Danielle doesn't want a relationship with him. If she doesn't want it, then no amount of Dick hoping it will get better, will work. When he broaches the subject, she immediately gets frustrated and says she doesn't want to talk about it. The hard thing for Dick is that he's got to back off. He's got to leave the door open for her and let her know that it's open but he's got to let her go. In the meantime, he might want to consider getting counseling. But I doubt that will happen especially now because he's too invested in being "Evel Dick." He really believes that its okay to say the things he does about people because he admits he's an A-hole. NOt good enough. I've read his Myspace blogs where he basically talks about what a bad father he's been and how little he's made of his life. It's bleak reading. I don't think Dick will do the hard work on himself to change the way he treats people. Especially now because every time he's booked on the Early Show or Letterman or does some reality show after this, the public is going to want to see Evel Dick. His fans will expect Evel Dick. They want the swearing, the rants, the inappropriate comments...And he'll feel enormous pressure to live up (down) to that. Then you have Dani's dysfunction. She's almost always brooding and complaining. She's also inconsolable when she loses something. If she were to lose the final vote to Dick, it would irreparably harm their relationship. Also, once she gets out of the house and sees that her father is more popular than she is, it will dumbfound her and also be an impediment to their relationship. A year from now, I don't see them speaking.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 9:00 am
Well, now you saw the real Dick and Daniele. It's no longer a matter of game, the game is over but their bitterness about the other houseguests is neverending. They are only in agreement when Jen is the subject of their discussion, Daniele starts the topic and Dick ends with more cruel criticism of Jen. So, we can't say they're playing a game anymore, it's them, plain and simple. Good luck to them, until the money runs out!
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 9:23 am
Early on in the season, when Dick was telling anyone who'd listen that Dani broke up Kris's engagement, I thought it was so inappropriate and disrespectful for him to put tell personal business to virtual strangers and the world at large. It wasn't even accurate when Dani told the story. I found Dick's behavior quite telling.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 9:25 am
Spunky, The last two in the house always spend a lot of their time bashing everyone. I thought Jun and ALison were much than D/D, and Maggie and Ivette came in pretty close.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 9:30 am
Well, Dick did say he wanted to take the show on the road and go on Dr. Phil. Maybe this is all just a set up for the next D/D gig. (Does Allison have some connection with Dr. Phil so she can benefit from the tie-in?) Maybe after Dr. Phil, they can go on Jerry Springer. By then it'll probably be time for another BB All-Stars and they'll be back for our viewing pleasure.
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 9:38 am
Naja, I'm with you. This season is not at all different from previous years. This always happens with the last two and it's not fun to watch. I found Allison and Jun to be the worst, but it's all just a matter of opinion.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 9:49 am
Bygdaddy, great post! Dani is far too invested in hating Dick and blaming him for all her troubles to try to reconcile at this point. They each have to face their own inner demons before they can hope to have some kind of relationship. Dick does take some 'evel' pride in who he is, and that part of him is the very part that drove his daughter away from the start. After they leave the house, the media forces and the after effects of this game will likely force them farther apart, rather than bring them together. Dani will be more wounded and ashamed that people are lauding the very thing that hurts her most about her father. And Dick will be encouraged to be more of that person. It doesn't look good for them, without individual and perhaps eventually family counseling.
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Wheresnicole
Member
07-02-2006
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 10:33 am
I read that Dani and Dick were discussing the grandma watching Showtime and Dani said I am sure after Jen flashing and Zack streaking she had it turned off. Well they might want to think maybe due to her sons mouth she turned them off Nothing is their fault Always Jen s fault or Zack s LOL
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 10:52 am
Whereisnicole, I tend to think that grandma stopped watching after she saw Dani kissing someone not her boyfriend of 2+ years so she missed all that.
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Mssas
Member
08-04-2006
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 12:15 pm
You think Dick's words to Jen/Kail could of made her stop watching??? or is she used to him talking like that around her or to her?
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Wink
Member
10-06-2000
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 1:46 pm
Bygdaddy and Karunna wonderful posts. I think until Dani is willing to invest in some forgiveness for all the wrongs she feels have been done to her by her father, there is zero hope for any kind of relationship for them. And until her father realizes that the first step to reconciliation does not include winning a frigging game show they will remain totally alienated. You don't repair a broken relationship with "stuff". I don't recall ever hearing any mention of any previous counselling that either have tried. Perhaps instead of spending the summer in the BB house they should have been in the Dr. Phil house.
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Scribe
Member
08-16-2000
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 2:29 pm
SUCCESSful beginning. Eventually they should find a middle ground wehre they live their own lives and Dick lets her grown into her own person and be there if/when she reaches out to him. Hopefully, with that leeway she will reach out to him periodically and he will not smother her. He has to stand on his own and be the adult - he is very very needy and that is of course a turn off for a child even if they have a fairly average realtionship with the parent which is of course not the case here. But, if they can talk now and could nto ebfore then it is a SUCCESful beginning.
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Tanith
Member
08-25-2006
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 2:50 pm
LOL, Tres. Maybe this thread should be closed until after we see what's done with the money!!! It is, after all, the root of all EVEL. 
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Nycsoho
Member
08-11-2007
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 3:04 pm
If they share the money it will cost double the taxes, according to the lottery show I saw.
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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 3:22 pm
Maybe Dani doesn't want to talk about it because she knows how we are all sitting by watching it and she doesn't want to air all the dirty laundry - maybe it's not that she's a horrible person as many believe her to be but yet she wants to have some things remain private. They both have work to do - but I think that Dani has come along way in that she wanted him out ASAP when the game began and she would hide out from him but now she is able to say she loves him. I see her in a similiar position as myself - I love my mom and would do alot for her, but she drives me nuts and she's done some things that I am still working on forgiving her for. I don't think it makes me a bad person and I don't think Dani is a bad person. We don't know the whole story and I hope for thier sake we never will. I just hope that when they get out of the house they are able to work on thier problems without the influence of others. As far as how Dani behaved all season, I will say it 100 times - she was in a difficult position, people held what her dad did against her (B4 she encouraged his behavior), people judged her based on her dad, so she wasn't able to build alot of relationships in the house and then being stuck there with her dad when there is obviously many open wounds - she did the best she could to get by. Cut the girl a break.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 3:23 pm
Scribe, you made a very good point about Dick being needy. This is a man who contacted her 30 times without getting a response and was not deterred by that. He wants what he wants and is bullying her likes he does everyone else only he's less crude about it with her. If he showed her some respect, I think he would go a long way toward encouraging her to work with him.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 4:13 pm
I am having trouble finding fault in a father for calling his daughter 30 times over two years even tho she wouldn't answer. I think that averages out to about once every 3 weeks, and seems normal. What would you think if he called his daughter twice and gave up? That to me would be worse.
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 4:21 pm
I do not relate to any parent giving up on their child and Dick has not done that. It seems to me that he does what he can to have some sort of relationship with her. She doesn't seem to want one, for the most part. None of us know their history and frankly, it's none of our business. I also wonder why all the blame towards Dick for the abandonment of Daniele. Where was her mom? I would find that even more traumatic as a child. It's going to take willingness on both parts for this thing to heal. So far, I haven't seen much willingness on Daniele's side, but again, I have no clue what their history is. I wish them the best and I hope they can find some sort of peace between them.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 4:23 pm
If I called someone that many times without a response, I would put the ball in her court. I'd say I want to spend time with you and be there for you, and I'm here for you whenever you want to contact me. And then I'd let it go.
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