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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Dick and Daniele.. Relationship Success or Disaster?: Archive through August 27, 2007 users admin

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Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
Dick did say he is bipolar on his myspace. And it is a medical condition. Doesn't automatically make him a bad person.

Kmjm
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05-19-2002

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 11:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kmjm a private message Print Post    
Here is what Dick wrote:

It is who I am and I have never pulled any punches in my life, especially with myself. I think it is part of being bipolar, but who gives a , it is me.... high highs and low lows.

Here is the link:

http://tinyurl.com/2ucd5o

Govols
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07-19-2005

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Govols a private message Print Post    
I still say Dr. Phil would be great.

He is on CBS after all....

Loppes
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07-12-2002

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loppes a private message Print Post    
I don't know if Dani's boyfriend drove a wedge between her and Dick. I know clearly he said awhile back in the early days of the BB house, that he liked her boyfriend Kris. That was a main reason for him to campaign everyone to evict Nick, because he didn't want to see her relationship with Kris jeopardized. Of course some 2 months later, neither of them refer to Kris and its all about Nick.

Jaided
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08-04-2007

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jaided a private message Print Post    
Thats where I read it.. on Dick's blog.. I knew I saw it somewhere.

At one point Daniele DID say yes to counseling, but recently in one of their conversations she said no... thats the last I remember, maybe she said yes again.. but I do recall her saying no..

My sister is bi-polar... and it certainly does not make you a bad person at all. It is a disease that gives you extreme highs... and extreme lows... so when your up, the world is your oyster, you do things in excess etc... and when you hit a low, the world is the most bleak place you can be in... and middle ground doesn't last all that long in some cases.

Jaided
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08-04-2007

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jaided a private message Print Post    
Oh.. and as for her mother...

I read a good chunk of her Live Journal and she I only recall her mentioning her mother once.. and said :

"its hard having a mother that you rarely see. & rarely returns your phone calls. but still love more than the world itself."

That exerpt was written in 2005 and no mention of her mom after that to recent.... so I have no idea.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Dick will never have a good relationship with Dani until he talks/treats her like a Father.

In several of their discussions, I wanted to scream at him--talk to her like a Father! He argues with her like you'd argue with a friend/SO/sibling.

Daddy needs to take the responsibility first. He needs to let her speak her piece, and shut up. He needs to realise that she is speaking from her perspective.

He keeps saying that he was always there for her, but he needs to recognise that that's how he sees it, but that doesn't mean that that's how she perceived it. He can't argue her out of her feelings.

It was telling when he asked her if she just wanted to yell at him. Yes, maybe that's what's needed. Listen to her, let her get it out.

Then, instead of rebutting or resorting to shaming her by bringing up her other relationships, just tell her how you never realised that's how she experienced things. Say, sorry, if only I'd known. Validate her feelings!

Tell her why you love her, what you value about her, and leave out the negative stuff.

Let her know you are a flawed human being, tried your best, and wish it had been better. It's amazing how much children can forgive their parents when their parents are willing to admit they aren't perfect.

Rant over.

2addicted
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07-17-2006

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send 2addicted a private message Print Post    
I think you make excellent points, Puzzled. It doesn't matter whether or not Dick agrees, Dani is entitled to her feelings.

IMO, Dick is trying, but both of them have these negative patterns they've built up over the years that are difficult to change now.

But they need to.


It's a tough situation, and I believe they have made some strides.

I never would have promoted going live on national TV as a way to repair a broken relationship, but I have a feeling (from my observation of past reality players) that going through something like BB is an intense, bonding, experience.

I can see Dick and Dani talking/laughing/sharing
stories about their summer on BB for many years to come.


I have a lot of empathy for both Dick & Dani and I hope they work out their problems.

Gusmonster
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06-01-2005

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 2:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gusmonster a private message Print Post    
I can see them talking/laughing/sharing maybe if Dani wins. If she doesn't I'm afraid she'll blame Dick for ruining her game and it could be another source of trouble for them.

2addicted
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07-17-2006

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 2:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send 2addicted a private message Print Post    
Oh I hate to think that way Gusmonster. I hope
you're not right !

If the LJC alliance stays true to F4 I believe it will be the fair "Head to Head" competition I've been waiting for.

And hopefully all 4 will feel as if they had an equal shot.

There's an element of luck at the end that's difficult to plan for/predict.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
I hope they do, too, 2Addicted.

Gusmonster
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06-01-2005

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gusmonster a private message Print Post    
I hope I'm not right either 2addicted. I wish them well.
Actually if it does really come down to JEDD I'm hoping Dani wins it all. She played this game hard and she's my DD's fav.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
So who came out better in the editing tonight? Dani looked like she was acting bratty but she has said she has her reasons.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 9:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
and she SAID her reasons. For the first time I heard her defend herself and tell dick about what things were life for her growing up.

CBS edited it allllllll out.

i actually stood up out of my chair as i couldnt believe the edit.

They left Dick's "poor rejected dad routine' and took Dani's responses completely out.

Dick could be made to look horrible if they edited his Danibashing comments and put all the bits together in which he talks about being GONE TRAVELLING and doing drugs/ drinking.

Dad of the year he is not.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Monday, August 27, 2007 - 6:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Agreed--the edit was so biased in ED's favour.

Marksman
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05-04-2007

Monday, August 27, 2007 - 8:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marksman a private message Print Post    
I just don't know why Dick can never say he is sorry to Daniele. He doesn't have to apologize for what he did, but just for the way he made her feel bad. He will never do it though.

Was very telling to me in the big heart-to-heart early on when the situation was screaming out for him to apologize for making her feel the way she has felt, all he could muster was "I will never give up on you."

I think Daniele despises him more than ever, and this show potentially created a life-long rift that might never be healed.

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Monday, August 27, 2007 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
He has told her he is sorry many many times.

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Monday, August 27, 2007 - 9:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
I completely feel for Daniele in this situation. He can say he is sorry but the things that he says right after it like saying that she always leaves show that he is not truly sorry and willing to work with her.

He is not really her father. He has not had that role in her life. She feels like he abandoned her. You have to read her journals to understand where she is coming from.

Based on my experiences in my life, I really have strong empathy for Daniele. She is not a spoiled brat, she is hurt and she is the child, he is supposed to be the adult in this relationship.

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Monday, August 27, 2007 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
I have read her journals. I have also read my daughters and some of her friends journals. I don't think they are 100% gospel. I think it was extremely rude of whoever found those journals and made sure they were read by all. I think she will b humiliated.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Monday, August 27, 2007 - 9:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
i read her journals too and saw nothing negative about her dad in them.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, August 27, 2007 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Dick always wants payback for saying he is sorry and he really doesn't sound sorry, he sounds irritated. He cannot ever give space and he's often the one to stomp away.

The thing about the 30 phone calls or text messages.. shows this too.

Z, I think in her journals she held back, but this quote says alot to me.


quote:

ok so Let's say 5 minutes ago ... or so. I just remembered what it's like to hate everyone and everything. I honestly wish you had the choice of being born rather then it being up to two horny people that just want to screw eachother.


This was at age 15..

She also mentioned him PMing her but mostly he is just.. NOT there.. she talks of her grandparents, Vincent and her mom, not her dad.

(in what I've read)

She's mentioned choice to be born in the house too

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Monday, August 27, 2007 - 10:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
What child does NOT say "I didn't ask to be born?" They might be more well served to realize if it wasn't for mom and dad, they would be there anyway.

Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Monday, August 27, 2007 - 10:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
Govols
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07-19-2005

I still say Dr. Phil would be great.

He is on CBS after all....


I wonder if Dr. Phil watches BB and imagines he is looking a big juicy buffet.

Justme2
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08-25-2005

Monday, August 27, 2007 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Justme2 a private message Print Post    
Has anyone considered this might be a performance for the HG's? They seem to be able to go off alone and plan. Just a thought.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, August 27, 2007 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
No, there is too much real emotion and pain in what I've seen. The other HG can spin it however they want but it is real.

Doesn't mean they aren't stuck working together.