TVCH FORUMS HOME . JOIN . FAN CLUBS . DONATE . CONTACT . CHAT  
 Wikia  Quick Links   TOPICS . TREE-VIEW . SEARCH . HELP! . NEWS . PROFILE
Archive through September 12, 2007

The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: 9/11 Final 3 Endurance HoH Comp Thread: Archive through September 12, 2007 users admin

Author Message
Jen
Member

07-27-2003

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
I don't think Dani is disliked because of her father. There are many other reasons the HGs dislike her that have nothing to do with that.

Gidget
Member

07-28-2002

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
oh you're right nick.. he did say it was unfair... i thought he meant because they are blood. and i agree with him. i hate twists. and i hate family twists most of all. d & d have not reconciled but they have proved blood is thicker or at least greed.

Wink
Member

10-06-2000

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wink a private message Print Post    
Angelfairies I think they will vote personally because Dick "elevated" the personal to a level that hasn't been seen before.

Asil
Member

08-12-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Asil a private message Print Post    
Lurk - good point on the MVP!!

Jaided
Member

08-04-2007

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jaided a private message Print Post    
Really tho... again I have to say... people in the jury house are no longer playing the game.. so they can mellow out more and not feel so paranoid and not feel so personal.... It is during sequester that people start to think about how people played the game, not as much about what was done to them.... Tho admittedly some won't let go... some do see it from the game point of view.. after being OUT of the game long enough...

So they may give credit to how Dick and Daniele stayed in the game despite being nominated so much and deals etc... OR they may give credit to Zach for doing it on his own for the most part...

But the jury is away from the game now and can reflect with some new light... so who really knows?

Roxip
Member

01-29-2004

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Oops, right! If it was Zach/Dani I would definitely vote for Zach. Sorry, stayed up too late last night! But I got to see the bitter end.

If people think the "best player" should have won then it can easily be argued that Janelle should have won All Stars, and either she or James should have won season six. Unfortunately being the "best competitor" has to encompass all aspects of the game...the competitions, the ability to communicate with other players and to also be able to make them like you (or dislike you the least) in order to reward you with 1/2 million.

Tresbien
Member

08-27-2002

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
Love your analogy Sky!

Jeanne
Member

07-15-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
I think Dani is most definitely "predominantly disliked" because of her association with her father. I am really at a loss at what she has done to any of them directly that would make her so disliked.

Angelicfairies2
Member

07-19-2004

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
Sky that was PERFECTLY said!

Jaided
Member

08-04-2007

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jaided a private message Print Post    
Ok... here's one.. of the three left.. do you think ANY of them have earned the jury's respect? For their game play? For their personal relationships? LOL...

Roxip
Member

01-29-2004

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I don't think that the particular character of those people in the jury house will be able to put themselves away from the personal attacks that Dick carried on and vote based on pure game strategy. Dustin? Jen? Amber? Perhaps Jess and Eric, most specifically Eric, but I also think that Jameka's last few days in the house alone with the Donatos and Zack will have a lot of impact on the jury members. She was fact gathering and although the Donatos certainly put on a dog and pony show I don't see Jameka being that easily taken in. True, she and Zack had their difficulties but it appeared that they sincerely tried to talk things over the last few days. Most of the Donatos' conversations with her were to try and turn Jameka against Zack. All the sudden Dick was her new best friend? Daniele was sharing secrets with her? (Although to give Dani credit she was fairly close to Jameka early in the game.)

Tresbien
Member

08-27-2002

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
Dani spent most of the first month with Nick and followed that with a week alone in her HOH room. I think those things did not endear her to the others.

Bonbonlover
Member

07-13-2000

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I don't think being a "floater" is a in and of itself a bad thing as long as you are playing the game. Working with a variety or groups and being able to slip in and out of various alliances is an art. But, I think I respect the player that while floating from group to group actually works to make moves, win competitions and power strategize...

Now I know that Will Kirby never won competitions, but he had to play hard in his strategizing and manipulating...

The player who does not manipulate, strategize, dominate is not, to me, playing a respectful game. Simply lasting a long time because there were other powerful players who needed to be dealt with is not, to me, a deserving winner...

Jen
Member

07-27-2003

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
Turning on the group.
Making Nick's eviction her cause, when she voted him out.
Hiding behind her father (not b/c of him).
Pushing her father to do nasty things so she can reap the rewards (her choice to encourage this.)

I think she's been a great competitor, but she's had reasons to be disliked by the others.

Angelfaerie21
Member

09-11-2007

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelfaerie21 a private message Print Post    
When are they starting part 2 of the competition?

Bubba
Member

07-29-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bubba a private message Print Post    
Dick made it personal with his attacks. If the jury votes on a personal level, well then, Dick it didn't work. Personal attacks and a daughter that could win comps. was Dick's game.

Smokey
Member

07-08-2003

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
But this game isn't about earning respect. It's about who stays in the house to the end and out of the two, who they feel played the best game.

Jeanne
Member

07-15-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
Tres, that still doesn't explain or reflect the level at which some of the HGs dislike her, sorry.

Jeanne
Member

07-15-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
They've ALL had reasons to be disliked by each other. I'm not suggesting Dani is perfect, but I highly doubt she would be disliked as much as she is if her father was not in the house. Everyone of those HGs is human and we all are guilty at some time or another of disliking another by their association to someone we dislike.

Jen
Member

07-27-2003

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
We wish they voted on the best game, but they can vote on whatever they wish. Stragtegy, competitions, revenge, personal, whatever.

And you are right. Dick took it personal first. If that bites him in the butt, it's his own fault. I think Dani sees that too. She's kept her hands clean (so she thinks), and can say all she did was have a partner who was disgusting. She didn't do it.

Jaided
Member

08-04-2007

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jaided a private message Print Post    
I think Jameka's opinion will hold some weight since she had quality one on one time with both Zach and D & D... However.. I also think Jameka is smart and I think she KNEW she was being groomed for that role in the jury house. Both sides feeding her info etc.. and Jameka was smart and knew it.

In her goodbye message Zach gave his last shot at it when he said "I am so glad I gave you a chance to fight for yourself".... LOL.. it was just as if he was jumping up and down yelling "Pick me Pick me" LOL

And then you can see Jamekas reaction when suddenly Zach refound god thanks to her... LOL..

She knows she was being groomed.. she knows they were all trying to butter her up and get her to sway the jury in their direction.. Stratedgy baby....

Tresbien
Member

08-27-2002

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
I can cite one conversation to illustrate my point. Amber pointed out to Dani that she'd gone off by herself to the HOH room and had not made the others feel welcome to join her. I'm sure there are other reasons, but I think that's quite valid.

Tresbien
Member

08-27-2002

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
Jameka's agenda is for Zach to get rid of Dick. I believe if he accomplishes that, Zach will have her vote.

Jeanne
Member

07-15-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
Tres, I'm not saying it isn't valid (sigh). I'm suggesting that the degree or level at which she is disliked seems distorted to me (and has been very much affected by her association to Dick).

Jeanne
Member

07-15-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
Zach will not get rid of Dick, IMO, if he wins HOH. He will definitely drag Dick with him.