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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 4:51 pm
Sharinia Member 09-07-2002 Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 2:49 pm So is it wrong then for devoted Christians to watch/support this evil show? I am really beginning to think that as a Christian I should not be watching this, give up BB (at least this year...and it has nothing to do with Religion in the house) and read my Bible more!
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Kearie
Member
07-21-2005
| Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 4:56 pm
I've been thinking the same thing Lainee.
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 5:01 pm
Something we agree on! 
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Kearie
Member
07-21-2005
| Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 5:06 pm
about time eh? 
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 5:11 pm
LOL Sure nuff...think I am gonna go lie down...laters! 
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 5:17 pm
I think it totally depends on whether you think it is a game or representative of real life. I kind of think of it as poker - you bluff in poker. I can accept deceit as part of the game. It's all in fun and a game - except I wouldn't go for the really nasty parts when people say horrible things about the other HGs. That isn't necessary or acceptable (IMO).
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:06 pm
I pretty much agree with you Jimmer. I mean, if all of the players subscribe to a game where 'bluffing' is part of the 'rules' - it doesn't seem comparable to lying in everyday life. I am a little conflicted about it though because people obviously still often get upset when they are lied to. Maybe they are just not good sports, or maybe this game is ethically problematic in the way that it frequently seems to hurt people. People usually seem glad for the experience though, so I don't know....
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:08 pm
<<I'm not saying they shouldn't play this game. I'm just saying that the way BB is played there are other shows out there where they can get the same result without having to compromise their beliefs and themselves.>> Okay, I see your point and respect that. I honestly I am not sure I could lie to people etc myself.
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 2:35 am
Hiya Jimmer...and yes I totally agree! It is a game, but this year has so gone over the top with several houseguests being as rude and crude as they want and Dick being the worst of them all. The one shining light in the last few episodes, from what I have seen of the shows, is that apparently BB has figured out how to edit out the praying so their is no organ music... I am just not as into this season...I fell asleep last night during BB and although I taped it I have no burning all consuming desire to rewind and watch.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 6:56 am
Amber praying: "Thank you for making me the person i am- i love this person i'm becoming inside me, i..." Eric yells into the BY: "QUARTERS!!" Amber: "Quarters? Yeah!" then she tells eric she'll be right there because she's praying She ends the prayer with "Well, I have to go now" and "God Bless You, God."
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Swannanoa
Member
07-09-2007
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:21 am
Reading back over some of the posts, one about chanting in Buddhism struck me. I have recently gotten the message (don't even ask, no God does not speak directly to me..I think he's busy talking to Amber anyhow) that I need to "prepare my fields". That comes from the story of two farmers who asked God for rain. One went inside, sat and waited. The other prepared his field whose field received rain. For me, Amber and Jameka make a total mockery out of faith in God. There's a saying used in AA and NA that says "Let go, let God". Neither of these people let go. I have a very hard time with people who pray outloud in public. It's as if they want the attention. "Oh look at me, I'm praying." Whatever. I'm really tired of them talking about God and all Amber's visions etc., when they both turn around and curse like sailors or put others down.
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Martinidreams
Member
08-19-2005
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:35 am
"Jameka seems to believe that the results of the game have already been pre-ordained, therefore no need to play the game at all." Those that are hard-core about pre-destination believe that about absolutely everything. If she follows that belief, it's no surprise that she believes that about the game.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:40 am
ROFLMBBAO laughing @ Bonbon............tell me Amber did not do that ! Hysterical. I am so disappointed in this group of HG's and if Dani or Dick wins,well all I can say is ...ewwwwwwwwwwwww. < Q^Q < eye roll > I wonder if Amber did this religious spiel before she became so buddy buddy with Jameka ? Those two have no game and I know Jameka is a smart young lady.
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 10:55 pm
Being a Christian, I feel bad saying this, but: Does anyone else think Amber's praying out loud is for the cameras? Jameka has only done it a few times that I've noticed, and it's only been when she's overcome with emotion. It just seems like there is a different tone when Amber prays. I don't know what to call it, self-aware, self-gratifying? It just seems pretentious, I guess. I feel bad judging how another person prays, so I hope I'm wrong. OK, that said, I think religion plays a part everywhere, because it is a part of a majority of the human race. So, is it okay that it's in the BB house? Of course. But should it be a part of the game? I don't think so, although it is up to the individual whether or not to use it as part of their gameplay.
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Carochar
Member
07-25-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 2:25 pm
While watching BBAD this a.m., when Jameka was shown in the HOH, on her knees with hands clasped & seemingly weeping, my 20-something sons said, "Can't they give her privacy and not show her while she's praying?" The few times I've actually listened to what Jameka is saying while at prayer, I wonder what "sect" of Protestantism encourages this total enslavement, absolute adoration, and almost incestuous giving of one's self (i.e. "You are my lover," is something I've heard her say a couple of times). And the prayers said aloud when both ladies are fully aware cameras are broadcasting their words? It's amazing -- game play or devotion? But, like the tree in the proverbial forest, if it's said outside the earshot of the voting jury, does it count? Or is it for the friends and family watching on the internet?
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Jgirl0129
Member
08-15-2007
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 4:00 pm
I am confused. I am not an overly religious person although I did attend Catholic school and church growing up. My confusion is that I dont think I have ever known for people to become so emotionally involved in their praying. I do understand at times but for Jameka and Amber this seems to be common. My question is what religion are they and is it common for people who share their beliefs to become so involved in their day to day prayers? I hope this made sense.
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Kimsue
Member
07-08-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:51 pm
OK lets see if I can put this in a more PC format then I did previously. I have my own faith and it differs from the vast majority. That being said, one of the primary things I believe is that we are all free to worship (or not) in what ever fashion we choose. For me to question how one prays, would be inappropriate. Each of us journey on a different path. How we talk to our Goddess, God, Buddha, etc., is personal. I wish that BB Producers would just let us see a brief moment so we know what the HG is doing and then leave them alone. Take the cameras off them for the time it take for them to communicate spiritually. That's all I have to say. JMO
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:33 pm
Read up Jg. You will see many opinions.
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Ginger1218
Member
08-31-2001
| Monday, August 27, 2007 - 9:34 am
Let me preface this by saying, I like Jameka. Now, let me say that I am nauseated that someone who is supposed to be "good" and "God loving" would out and out make up a story that will hurt somebody. I know this game is just that, a game. I know she is there to win. But to make up an out and out lie that will hurt somebody. Sorry, this is sickening to me, and everything that will come out of her mouth with reference to religion and God, is total hypocrisy.
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Suzsmarmie
Member
07-26-2005
| Monday, August 27, 2007 - 9:43 am
Jg, being from the Southest of the South (South Carolina), I know the Evangelical, Pentecostal (that I know of) do this type of praying. It's often prayer with crying, talking aloud, and even speaking in tongues. It's extremely emotional and affected me personally in a cult like manner many many many years ago. I was convinced the world was ending on a certain day and all kinds of things...but, that's just how I reacted. That's why I'm very uncomfortable listening to Amber and Jameka.
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Monday, August 27, 2007 - 6:59 pm
I guess my issue is Amber reminds me of someone that goes to a revival, gives her life over to the Lord, and wakes up the next day to find her life exactly as it was before that. They don't realize that things don't instantly change. Amber is obviously lacking any Christian education, and I think she's going to be disappointed that she can't boss God around...and that he DOES answer her prayers, but they aren't always answered the way she wants. I'm not going to criticize Jamika beause she doesn't always act like a Christian....nobody does, but I'd really like it if she would set Amber straight on a few of the basics. Just one MORE thing that Amber is going to be disappointed with and have to deal with outside of the house. I hate to think of what her life will be like when she gets home. It's sad. and YES, listening to them does make me uncomfortable. I was raised very conservative, and this mixed up stuff makes me cringe.
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Kimsue
Member
07-08-2005
| Monday, August 27, 2007 - 9:52 pm
Christians, Budists, Jews, Muslim, Pagan, whatever.............we are all just people! I myself am not ordinary in any way I am special and I know it, I was told that all through school........
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Monday, August 27, 2007 - 10:05 pm
IMO, I don't like watching Amber and Jameka praying outwardly as much as they do (not saying they can't, it's their 1st Amendment right), but I do feel uncomfortable. I would much rather be in a house with a bunch of Dicks **GET THAT HEAD OUT OF THE GUTTER**, than Ambers and Jamekas. To me, when you do that much outward praying, it's not real. You are putting on a show for people and to me it is almost like a pressure to have to join in. I have no problem with anybody's beliefs, I think different beliefs are great. I have a problem with constant outward expression of beliefs. That is between you and your God; not you, your God, and the whole universe. However, I'm sure some people will bring up Kaysar. Read above again. Kaysar wasn't constantly praying 24/7. Of course, yes because of his beliefs, he had certain times. I am completely fine with some outward praising of God or whatever...but constant...give me a break. it's a show, Amber is putting on a show...it's like giving candy to a baby...
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 2:49 am
To me, when you do that much outward praying, it's not real. You are putting on a show for people and to me it is almost like a pressure to have to join in. I must be putting on a show then, cause I am always praising God...singing, praying and yes, talking about my beliefs if someone asks. No I am not perfect, the only perfect being was crucified. But, as Christians we are supposed to be Christ like and follow his example and if people are uncomfortable then that is a sign of the times.
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 5:26 am
Ok, here's my take... living in the SE and having married a Fire Baptistied Pentacostal Holliness person... these are the people you see that the women do not ever wear pants, long long hair that is in buns, no jewerly etc... this religion does often speak in tounges. Now, having been around some ferverently religious people to those that just go to church to be seen... I have seen both sides. Those that pray quietly and those that pray outloud. Personally, that is YOUR personal choice. I have prayed out loud... I have been emotional praying and cried out during prayer. I have told God that my body was his to do as he wanted, because in my beliefs it is since he created it. Why is them praying outloud any different than say kaysar of the muslum faith holding his prayers and kneeling up and down over and over at sunset every day? Each religion has it's own traits. Now, what bothers me MOST about Jam AND Amber's "religion" is they will pray and then began cussing up a storm afterwards. Or pray and then go drink. It just doesn't fit. Yes, we all are guaranteed sin, however once you know a sin is a sin, then you are creating an even more agreous one by doing it knowingly. I think Amber's entire wording of her praying is at times amusing to sad. I am glad someone w/ her past history is finding God to lean on, but I have more of a problem with her belief system when I have sat and watched her reading the Bible, look up and then go off w/ a string of expletives about someone. Sometimes while praying, I just didn't feel the prayer as much in my heart while just saying it in my head, hence then I had a conversation with God outloud. While my mother was sick and in the hospital w/ cancer, I dropped to my knees often and prayed outloud.
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