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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Use of Church/Organ Music Offensive or Fair?: ARCHIVES: Archive through August 14, 2007 users admin

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Lainee
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07-19-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
LOL Allietex! I know the feeling! :-)

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I guess I'm not offended by BB trivializing Jameka/Amber's praying because in a way, I think Jameka/Amber are trivializing their faith.

Using God to get through a game the same way others use God to get through serious hardships and life altering catastrophes seems to diminish the power of faith in my eyes.

I guess that's why I'm not bothered by the organ music. Its kind of hard to take someone's faith seriously when they invoke God's name over foolishness.

As always...JMO

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
Lanie...that's all I was saying. People can and should be asked to leave the church if they continuously commit certain sins and refuse to change.

These are the sins that are repulsive to non-christians. Sins that deter the growth of the church.

I never said Jameka should be kicked out of anything. I said I hope someone talks to her about her behavior in the house.

She is portraying the God of Abraham as a god who blesses greed. She is portraying the God of Abraham as one who favors Christians.

My Christian God loves everyone the same. He doesn't bless Christian greed.

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
If we're talking sin- incest, anti Jewish and anti black dog name comments tops the list in the BB house this year.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm not sure that there is a "proper" way to pray.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
Jesus certainly showed his displeasure in the Jewish religious leaders for their hypocrisy.

Ohiomobprincess
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11-07-2003

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ohiomobprincess a private message Print Post    
There is no "proper" way to pray. Every religion has a different style, procedure, etc. I pray all the time in my head and out loud in private. It's all if you're sincere and believe that God is listening to you.

Askme_who_ur
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08-19-2006

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Askme_who_ur a private message Print Post    
I would like to make a point here, Many have said they think Jameka and Amber are praying for the camera. I would like to suggest that their time in the BB house is 24/7 until they are evicted or win. There are cameras EVERYWHERE in that house. Do they think that their prayers are of utmost importance that CBS is featuring them on TV. I hardly think so. I am sure they think their prayers are insignificant and won't be aired.

If you yourself are in a stressful situation, don't you sometimes talk to yourself under breath? I think for the most part Jameka goes somewhere alone to pray. whether it is under her breath or spoken normally , she is looking for a stress release not playing to the camera.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
As a music minister myself, I say it's enough.
I don't want to be giggling while playing for Mary this evening!


Kep421
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08-11-2001

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I also don't think there is a proper way to pray...

Talking to God from your heart is all it takes...

But begging God for a veto competition win, or loudly and emotionally proclaiming your faith at the slightest upset, seems like a serious waste of God's blessings to me.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
I think the best prayers I hear are from children and youth in prayer circles. They hold each other's hands and listen to each other's prayers. Most of the kids thank God for their families. They pray for their friends. They pray for people in other countries that they read or hear about on the news. I feel privileged to listen to them.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, I totally agree! Aloud, in public, privately and quietly, God hears all prayers!

Kearie...I thought when you were saying that, that you were talking about Jameka (or even Amber) being an embarrassment to their church and should be kicked out.

Then again, in the house everything is magnified several thousand times and who's to say that they actually pray for help winning a game outside the house. :-)

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginger1218 a private message Print Post    
Hey another Ginger? You are using my name LOL that is gonna drive us nuts

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Some people believe that God guides every aspect of their lives. That includes Veto wins or whatever.

With respect to someone praying that they win money on a TV show, a more politically correct and possibly more advanced prayer would be something like, "Please God help me make the lives of my loved ones, friends and needy people better".

This second type of prayer is more circumspect and leaves more in God's hands but it is still asking God for something and essentially advising him of what you would like him to do.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
IF I was going to pray that God help me win the Lotto (I know "GO BUY THE TICKET!" LOL), I would simply say "If it is thy will".

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Oh, Lainee, I caught a story on "Ellen" the other day about a lady who won the Lotto. I'll keep it short.
The lady was a store clerk, another lady came in to buy some lotto tickets. She wanted 1 with her picks and 2 computer picks(or something similar), but the clerk lady got it wrong and ended up printing 2 of the lady's picked numbers. The lady didn't want to buy 2 tickets with the same numbers, so the clerk lady said she would buy the $2 ticket. That night she went home and said her nightly prayers and said to God "If it is your will, please let me win a little money even if it's only the $2. She ended up winning $100,000.00, I love that story.

Bbpeach
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07-07-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbpeach a private message Print Post    
Personally, I don't have a problem with Jameka or her faith. I think it is who she truly is.

OTOH, Amber, I feel like is pretty much just doing it so that she can be Jameka's bestest buddy.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
When I said proper way to pray, I meant it tongue in cheek. I also do not believe there is a proper way to pray. That was my point.

I also do not believe that God, religion, or prayer should be reserved for the major crisis of life. God said he was aware of the smallest sparrow. And I have heard Jameka and Amber pray for strengh, for God's will to be done. That is hard to do when you really want to pray for God to help you win.

And it is big brother who subject us to listening to their prayers. They put the cameras on Kaysar last year, but they were much more respectful.But then it is not acceptable to make fun of other religions. Christians somehow have become fair game.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 3:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Denecee, when I posted that I was thinking of the age old story/joke of the man or woman (whichever your choice is) that prays every night for a week that God will allow him to win the lottery that weekend. On the 6th night the man kneels and prays again that God please let him win the lotto that weekend. No sooner does he say Amen, than this deep booming voice from outta the darkness says "For my name sake, GO BUY A TICKET!" LOL

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 3:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
Maybe just asking God to have His way in this circumstance would have been more appropriate? Yes, Jameka is playing and praying to the cameras.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That is funny Lainee!!!

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 3:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Glad you liked it, Jimmer! See I DO have a sense of humor! LOL

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 4:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
Haven't most of the past hg's prayed silently? I don't remember Kaysar ever doing his prayers out loud. I agree with Ambi, if you are speaking out loud you want to cameras/mics to see/hear it.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Allie, 'Fair game' as was predicted long, long ago.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 4:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
I recently learned a great lesson about prayer.

The more I pray for others, the more strength and peace I have getting through my own difficult times.