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Paridy
Member
08-31-2007
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:48 pm
I say Dick since he po'd off most of the jury and he could win against him,Dani not too sure about JMHO What is everyone else's opinon on this
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Katidyd
Member
07-15-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:49 pm
I thought Zach had already told Jameka or someone that he would be taking Dani.
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Paridy
Member
08-31-2007
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:51 pm
He said that but if he thinks about it Dick would be the better bet to win against since everyone on the jury pretty much hates him LOL
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Onlymytulips
Member
07-17-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:55 pm
I wonder, after Dick winning round 2, if she will talk to Zach about taking her behind her daddy's back.
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Katidyd
Member
07-15-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:55 pm
I would agree with that. Zach seems to be a man of his word though. Can he beat Dani in the finals?
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Hookedagain
Member
07-19-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:58 pm
Katidyd Zack promised he would never put Dani up!!
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:01 pm
I think he has a really hard choice. However, by Dick's doing so well in the last couple of events(winning an HOH and second in the last POv), lasting so long in the endurnace portion of part one and winning part 2, he now has more justification for bringing him based on performance as opposed to just saying to the jury wll hate him, which may back fire. Saying I brought DIck because I know the jury hats him may rub the jury as too manipulative. Now, it is really a toss up as both Dick and Dani have won so much. I really don't know who he is better off bringing but I think he really needs to concentrate on presenting his own case for himself. Dani is very articulate and expresses herself very well. Zach will need to be straight forward and really take them through how he got to where he sits.Don't use too many metaphors !
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Mylakers02
Member
08-18-2006
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:58 pm
If Z takes Dani he can use the fact that she used ED to do all her dirty work. Although she was strong in the comps she did whine to everyone when she didnt get her way and they know that. ED just pissed off too many people but played the game nonetheless. His problem is that he stepped WAY over the line and personally attacked Dustin, Jen, Amber, Jameka and betrayed his alliance with Jess and Eric.and the Jury won't forget. If the Jury votes strategic they will vote ED if they vote personally they will pick Zach.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:59 pm
He doesn't have to say why he is bringing whoever he brings. He originally intended to bring Dick, thinking he could beat him more easily. Then after Jameka said SHE would bring Dani because she didn't want Dick to win anything. A bit later in that convo, Zach decided he'd take Dani and told Jameka this. She approved. Oddly at some earlier time when Jameka was talking to Amber or Jessica she said she would put up Dick over Dani, but that was earlier. I think Zach can decide either way and will still win, with what we heard Dustin say, with Eric and Jess blaming the Donatos (even for Zach's actions) and with Jameka promoting him to the jury (though she did tell Julie she might stay in touch but didn't sound like she expected to be buddies with Zach in the future). So..who is he more likely to beat? Either one of them. But what does he think? Dick continually says he can beat Zach in F2. Dani doesn't talk about it. Coin Flip for me. If Zach had the HOH room, I suspect he might talk about it out loud. He has to think it through tonight because once the third part of the competition is done, if Zach wins he has to evict one of them immediately. As for the recent competitions, I don't think the tape will give the full flavor of Dick's effort in part one. Hard to say about part two since it was blocked, but the jury saw most of Dani's wins first hand, so she still may be seen as the better player. If he thinks that, he'll take Dick. I don't see Zach losing if he is in F2.
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Battlestar
Member
07-27-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 10:19 pm
---and Zach's sudden "finding his Faith" in the last few days with Jameka shouldn't hurt him either---but then again it looked to me that Jameka didn't really buy it
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 11:27 pm
Does anyone think that Dick will say (if Zach wins final HOH), "Please take my daughter" because he wants Danielle to win? The ultimate unselfish, put-your-daughter-first act? Then, from within the jury house, he can orchestrate and argue for everyone to vote for her, the better game player/competition winner?
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 11:34 pm
Umm, exactly how would he do this 'orchestrating,' Eeyore?? I thought about that and I hope if he gets too awful, BB will boot him from the jury house. I think Zach will take Dani. It will be bad having Dick @ the jury house; however, if he behaves in his normal manner, it just might make the others vote for Zach more. Dani would be more dangerous in the jury house. She's a great manipulator. I think Zach will beat Dani in the F2.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:27 am
Nope, I could see Dick calming down and just being consistent about telling people that Dani played the game harder than Zach did, and he could say even though he pissed them off a lot, Dani was always nice about things (I actually don't know this for a fact because I'm not watching as much this season, but I assume people like her and then just hold her father's actions against her more). Anyways, I think Dick could tell people that they have to admit they we close to all sides, and made moves when necessary, unlike Zach who went under the radar and was basically powerless and just dodging bullets. I think he could point to Dani's POV and HOH wins too. All of those people were friends with Dani at some point, whereas all the jury folks did not like Zach ever. Again, I am just going with how I think Dick could spin it. I don't know how erratic he is OUTSIDE of advancing himself and trying to eliminate others, so who knows how he'll be once he is talking to them without competing against them anymore.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:43 am
(I actually don't know this for a fact because I'm not watching as much this season, Dani was more tolerated than actively sought out for visits. Dani was rarely nice about things in the Houseguests Eyes. They saw her smirks and smiles whenever her dad would start up. They were irritated by her constant sarcastic comments. I nominate YOU because you're ugly. I nominate YOU because you walk funny. Stuff like that. The stuff shown on the TV show was extremely edited including that big scene Dani pulled in the HOH room with all the group and jameka. Dick was seen as doing Dani's Dirtywork and that she was getting him to do stuff. I really dont know who Zach would take. Both have their pros and cons. I really dont know how the Jury would take Dani in the Finals. I really dont think Dick would change anyone's minds....plus the minute anyone said Anything Bad about Dani He'd go off and then that would really turn em off further. As if everyone wouldnt know that Dani would most likely share with Dick so he'd say Anything LOL
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 1:06 am
I agree with Sea. I'm convinced he could beat either one at this point. I think the goal of that jury will be to make sure if only one Donato is in the finals that they don't take the larger money. They are going to care less if that person stood on their head in a pile of pig slop for 24 hours to win some contest. Dicks word will be useless with that jury if he is sitting there. In fact, he would be a reminder about how poorly he treated them and how much she pushed him to treat them like garbage. So if Zach pulls off a suprise win in this last HOH contest I think he can take either one and he will win.
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Mssas
Member
08-04-2006
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 2:48 am
YOu think those people in the jury house will fall for Dick's crap again?? I think not! lol
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Streetsmart
Member
08-06-2006
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 3:09 am
He will take Dick because he can easily beat Dick!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 3:34 am
you know what MIght make up zachs mind>? IF Dick doesnt pull his usual ranting before this next comp. Dick has always said he does that to protect? his daughter/ deflect attention off of her. Surely in this case Dick would want to make sure Zach knows that it will be HELL for him if he chooses Dick to stay. If we do not see Dick do his usual stuff, I would guess that Dick is going to be Five star shocked if Zach KEEPS Dani. The only reason I can see for Dick NOT bugging Zach is if he figures he is staying anyways LOL Could be interesting!
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 3:48 am
During a Q&A with the jury Zach would kill Daniele.He says some weird stuff at times but she mostly whines or smirks and I'm not sure she could do the jury session without insulting one of the jury. Dick would put on the charm but the jury knows better. Zach could beat either one. It will all come down to what they say to the jury.
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Muse
Member
08-09-2001
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:01 am
I think he will take Daniele. He told Jameka he would, and I think he will worry about losing her vote if he goes back on that. Zach has also really come to hate ED (the taunting during the first part of the HOH competition did not help), so I think the personal issues will outweigh the strategic. Zach thinks he can potentially win against either of them, so he will take the person he dislikes less.
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Teacuppy
Member
08-05-2006
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:36 am
IMO I think the Jury house already said they did not want the Denados to win. I think they are gonna stick to that. The problem is this has been the D & D show. Why would we expect that to change? D & D seem to have the edge given BB picked them from the start. I think Z played the better game with honor. I think Dick and dani pissed too many people off. If they win it will just prove the point.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:44 am
well one, things for sure, unless Zach wins part 3 tonight, the question is moot. (I do think he will take Dani over Dick though) and Zach can say about the comp wins, he won 3 of the last 4 HOH's, including 2 that were must-win for him, plus a POV. He may havwe flown under the radar, but that's because there were targets above him every time.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:52 am
Only Dustin has said he didn't want the Donatos to win, he can't speak for the rest. Given his behavior in the house it doesn't surprise me in the least that he would vote personally. They out played him and his ego can't take it.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:58 am
I think Jen stated she would not vote for Dick, no matter what. I'm not sure about Dani - but she did call Dani a cheat right at the end too. Jen's also an independent thinker - she won't be swayed by Eric. Amber, Jameka, Dustin, and Jessica are IMO, quite "swayable." I thought this season had a lot of easily persuadable people. I've wondered if it was deliberately cast that way to give Eric a better chance at making an impact. (And, thus making the game more entertaining, and thus making it get higher ratings.)
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Jandy
Member
07-08-2005
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:59 am
i know that Jessica doesn't like Dick, but she likes Dani a little. Jen will vote against ED, Eric will vote as AC says..so maybe Zach has a chance..Jameka might vote for Zach if he's in F2 and Amber might..Zach stands a chance.
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