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Aurora
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11-24-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
You make some good points, Damick. And she did brush him off when he thanked her several times for the tea. I guess I'm trying to find some redeeming quality in her.

Right now I'm going to try to enjoy this artificial warm glow I'm feeling, because in the mood Dick seems to be in......it ain't gonna last!

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
And I want to add. I feel that Zach was denied the joy he should have felt at winning that competition. And I still believe that had Dick won he and Daniele wouldn't have been as gracious as he. He would have taken a verbal beating once again.

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
That's what I was referring to, Archie. We both have children that age. Much more handsome and fit of course. :-)

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
Well said, all. I intended this to be a happy thread and with some Mod help, it worked. I have stayed around to see to it.

Now, I am off to find some definitions and see where I fit in Jeanne's analysis. LOL

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
I think Zach has such a strong bond with his family that I think that is what kept him strong, He knew they were in every way rooting for him, as was I... It may have been silent applause for him-- but I think he knew in his head it was loud as heck... and for him that was worth it...

Laralyn
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08-04-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Laralyn a private message Print Post    
gad, i cannot say i am of the older persuasion, as i cannot persuade myself to be older...lol

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
*back!* I am ESFP, as I see myself. DH and children might have a different take. Thanks, Jeanne, I have made the Myers-Briggs site one of my favorites so I can go back and figure some people out.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
I just watched a bunch of YouTubes and sorry, but a lot of what is posted is factually incorrect. Anyone who doubts it, just go watch them yourself and see.

Dani, after wrapping her Dad in 2 towels handed Zach 1 outside. Then we got vortex so dunno if she gave him the last one.

Inside she went over to Zach and asked him if he was ok, and she definately served him before that. Just first she was making sure her Dad was ok, which I think was the appropriate thing to do. And it appeared she also had hot soup ready for BOTH of them.

These are just FACTS that everyone can double check. Since I slept through the end of the comp (my body's choice) not sure if other stuff happened in addition to this, but this is all recorded so it all clearly happened.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
You're welcome Archiecat. It's fun and interesting stuff. And it's helped me immensely over the years (both in understanding myself and not being so hard on others!).

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Damick,

you mean they won a car in part 2... so it's true what Dick was saying for the past week..

Flyincows
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07-17-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flyincows a private message Print Post    
I would like to think that I would be as good a sport as Zach was after all of the abusive things that were said - however, I doubt that would be possible.

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
Lurk, did you read the whole thread? Other than handing Zach a towel, everything else you mentioned has already been mentioned as things Daniele did last night. Even a few you didn't mention.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
She probably did it out of guilt for what they did to Zach, 1 hour of trashtalking about Zach during the competition must have been pretty shameful.. (she knew she had a hand in it)

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Gee, they (INTJ)sound like Mr. Spock. Hehe

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
Lurk, I saw most of that and I was on live feed beginning to end...ur, 6:30 am eastern. I missed the towel she gave Zach. She served the tea and the soup as you said, and the sandwich. Did her duty to her dad. In fact, most of it was perceived as "duty" to all of us. But the fact remains it was "not abusive, certainly, but there was a ...room for improvement in some situations."

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Someone please direct me to the thread that Dani is being praised like Mother Teresa for being nice to Zach.
I will bet anything that at the wrap party, that they will all be getting along like normal people and that none of them will be holding any grudges. NO more stress of being the last person standing for half a million dollars.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
Yes, Allietex, indeed they do!

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
Denecee, I think that was an analogy formed in this thread, not a direct quote.

You are right about the wrap party, I bet, if it follows the way all the others turned out.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Why was Dani kind of nice to Zach?

There is room for a couple of thoughts.

1. Common human decency. Possible, even probable. Most people will help people who are not friends in tough situations.

2. She has a lot of time to think during that comp. She is a smart young lady.

If Zach wins the HOH, he chooses the person to go to F2. I am sure Dani wants it to be her, not her Dad. She wants to win. Don't blame her. So it did not hurt to be kind to Zach. Remember, she was already talking game with Dick before he quit shaking, trying to make him feel better about quitting, but game nevertheless. She never quits thinking about it.

So what was the reason? Who knows. Possibly a little of both.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Well I was up and reading the threads at the end of the competition...and Dani had impressed me with her "mother-henning" of both Dick and Zach.

But after Zach went to lay down, Dani/Dick were trashing Zach...and I remember one post about Dani calling Zach a schizo....

Then after showing so much concern for her dad when he was trying so hard, she couldn't even muster kiss him and tell him she loved him. Dick was really hurt by that...

My good impression of Dani was gone... she didn't get any personal growth from this experience... she is really too mean to her Dad.

Dani claims her Dad is a "mean friend"... I believe Dani should know...she acts just like him.

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
Kep, I am not particularly a Dani fan. And I agree with your statement. But, she learned to "act just like him" from him, her role model when she was too young to choose. It is sad in a way. She is beautiful, she is still young, but she (and he) might profit from some professional counselling if they both really want to make their relationship work.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
That's true Archie...all children pick up their parents' negative traits...

But when a "child" becomes an adult, its time to take responsibility for yourself. If young adult feels a certain trait in their parent is wrong...they should change it within themselves before condemning their parent....

Dani claims to "hate" her father because he is mean...Now that she is an adult, she has no right to judge him when she reserves the "mean friend" aspect for her self.

Dani is an adult now... her meaness is within her own control... it is no longer the "fault" of her father...

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Yes Aurora I read most of the thread. I didn't see any one post where it was all spelled out. Something was mentioned here, another thing there. But mostly I saw many posts insisting Dani did nothing, hence my deciding to add my post. K?

And she def handed him a towel...just watch the Youtubes. And as I said I listed the major things that MANY seemed to be refuting repeatedly.

I do not like all of what she's done, but I think it is very unfair to say she didn't do the things she clearly did.

ETA, watching her refuse to kiss her Dad and that entire hug was so painful. I swear I could hear/feel Dick's heart breaking. After what he went though, I thought it was bad enough for him to have to ask. But I noticed in rooting him on she was at a loss. She seems to lack ability to really encourage anyone even when she wants to. She just says the same few things over and over. Very sad scene IMHO

Jandy
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jandy a private message Print Post    
i don't want to even Think about the hypothetical reaction Dick would have had to Zach's losing. oh, no...my virtual ears!

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
The Mother Teresa analogy was mine. I took the Myers Briggs test and Mother Teresa and I are both IFSJ's. Nothing to do with Daniele.