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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:40 pm
The reason doesn't matter though. Lack of saying something is wrong nets the same results no matter why it's done. Like I said, it's all about human nature.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:40 pm
Lance you are absolutely right, and I've expressed my thoughts similarly over this season on that aspect of him vs other HGs also. I really believe at the end of this season now, that all the HGs who were so much younger than Dick, were just too scared to stand up to him, in essence, they being in their 20s are just learning what is appropriate behavior, while Dick should know better by the age of 44 -- and then eventually many of them began to take on his persona - because there weren't enough strong people inside that house to tell them its not right, while in the outside world there are. Eric was a clear one, who was suddenly saying ugly and nasty things. On the Jen issue, it blew me away to watch him go at her and no one tell him to stop. By then his words and actions seemed like a cancer in the other HGs minds and grew and festered. It created a mentality in them that "If Dick says it then it must be true". The ONLY two people that I really have noticed who stood up to him was 1. Jen - and he hated her for it, because he knew he will never win against her, ;2. Zach the other night in the competition - he focussed on the comp and didn't let Dick get to him, as a result it mentally wore away at Dick till he caved in <77>
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:41 pm
Bingo, Lance. I haven't had a major-league issue with Dick's "problem." I've had huge issues with the failure of others in the house to curtail his behavior. Dick clearly has a problem, we meet people with problems like that all the time in everyday life. I don't know about anyone else, but I'd have thrown twelve fits to Sunday every time he got profane/abusive/nasty. Call it a character flaw, I've never been able to sit aside and watch someone be attacked in front of me. I said it early in the season - I'm more appalled and the failure of the other houseguests to act in defense of their housemates than I am at Dick's failure to curb his own behavior.
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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:43 pm
I never said that Dick thought his comments were ok. I said he is getting messages from BB and others that they don't really have that much of an issue with it. The security things were related to what people said to him that he directly attacked, not because of what anyone else said to him when he attacked Jen, or Jemeka, or ERic or Zach. He knows full well he was making personal attacks or he wouldn't be concerned.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:52 pm
I don't think he would've stopped his actions if the other hg's confronted him. He doesn't seem to listen very well.
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Cmist
Member
09-20-2005
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:53 pm
WARNING TO Big Brother Fans and Watchers This is a reality television show, any resemblance to real life or fantasy life is purely coincidental. The day after the show is over all of the houseguests will return to real life and all will party and make merry. If you watch this show and take it to seriously it could be endanger your health.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:55 pm
All I think CBS cares about is being able to market a finale as "First time in reality game show -- father against daughter -- who will win" How they get there doesnt matter but that is what they want to sell
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Nycsoho
Member
08-11-2007
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 5:01 pm
Apparently, Julie Chen and her CBS CEO husband are thrilled with the Donotos. Julie had a huge grin on her face while talking about them to Craig Fergeson. The ratings are very high and Julie gave the Donotos major credit for that. In the end, the more complaints they get, the more it tells CBS they are on to a ratings gold mine.
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Bygdatty
Member
08-25-2007
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 9:12 pm
It's CBS' show and they can do what they want. But tonight's show was ridiculous. To their credit, Julie Chen did say that Dick ranted at Zach for hours but what did they show? They showed snippets that made it look as if Dick and Zach were ranting equally. None of the stuff about Zach's ex-girlfriend was aired. They didn't air Dick calling Zach a "sex offender". And did you hear the dramatic music they played in the background as the old man fought the bitter cold and cramps while being cheered on by his loyal daughter? The vomit is still backing up into my mouth. It's CBS. And that's definitely what you see.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 10:07 pm
Fascinating that in the final week, with just Dani, the rules have changed so Dick cannot use vile and vicious language against Dani. We know he has used that language in the past with Dani. How often did she say "now you know what I have been through" or something to that effect when he has been on one of his Allison approved, victim destroying, abuse tirades? So, Allison cannot take a chance his past habits in dealing with his daughter will be resurrected. Nope, that would just not do to have Dick able to talk like that to Dani. It would mess up the reconciliation week on the summer long soap opera known as The Donato Family Hour Amazing!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 10:29 pm
I also heard that Julie Chen really loves Dick
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Penpoint
Member
03-27-2001
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 10:30 pm
If there is a Big Brother 9, I wonder if any of the HGs will use the Dick Donato strategy of intimidation. After all, it worked for him. And it may even be encouraged by the producer.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 10:36 pm
I think they encouraged it when they did nothing to stop Howie's rants on April last year. Dick knew coming in it was allowed, as did we all.
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Veander
Member
07-02-2005
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 10:40 pm
<77> Personally, I'm surprised they made it to the end with each other, but they were clearly my favorite players. I actually liked Eric and Zack, but Eric was screwed due to AP and Zach simply lost that last HoH or else he would be a possible winner.
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-19-2004
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 10:41 pm
The codded leter wasn't brought up because it didn't need to be. Lynette Rice from EW asked AG about it and her response was the letter did NOT interfere with the game!!!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, September 14, 2007 - 1:30 am
The ONLY two people that I really have noticed who stood up to him Loppes, add MIKE to that list. Mike stood up to dick and frankly, got him really horribly upset during an argument in the Kitchen area. It was the night that almost all the other HGs were holed up in the Washroom area quietly listening down the hall to the argument. I was screencapping and doing dialogue for the whole incident. Of course, Mike was next to go since he wasnt kowtowing to Dick. Zach remained because he handled the confrontation outside on the couches better plus it was felt that he didnt have jury support therefore wasnt a threat.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, September 14, 2007 - 1:33 am
Interesting perspective about the Letter. There was intent. funny how that doesnt matter to the BB people since they gave it after the fact. Strikes me that this whole season has been trying to keep the Donatos well-informed and rocksolid supported. other than Eric, I've not heard so much talk of DR. I would LOVE for there to be Money penalties for Talking DR. If that was true, the first prize this year would be maybe 100,000. I think Aus had a 10,000 penalty each time. Or was it 5,000 It was HIGH.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, September 14, 2007 - 6:54 am
Lancecrossfire you 4:30 pm post is excellent. I totally agree with your point. To be silent about a wrong doing is percieved as acceptance. And like Dick has said all along....Perception is everything in this game.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, September 14, 2007 - 7:08 am
" Lynette Rice from EW asked AG about it and her response was the letter did NOT interfere with the game!!!" Well, that was Dick's second HOH letter...wonder what info the first HOH letter may have given him? What AG says really doesn't matter...she makes the rules and can twist them any way she wishes. She has used the Donato's for her own business reasons this year. I doubt they mean anything more to her than ratings.
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Lizziedi
Member
10-05-2005
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 5:18 pm
I was so glad to find this article and various responses here, because I think it addresses the core issues I feel about Dick's behavior. As I was watching the bunny hop challenge, and Dick started his tyrade against Zach, I felt so sick at heart I had to stop watching. Here was an exciting, grueling challenge with a cute (albeit weird) bunny, on a set that took hours to design, and BB fans cheering their favorites--only to become a stage for an abusive tirade I could not listen to. I am also one of those people who feels like she "gets" Dick, but in a different way. Having been around someone like Dick, his method of attack leaves me sick at heart. It's calculated and cruel, designed to hurt each individual at their most vulnerable point. (Jameka-religion, Amber-motherhood. etc.) It's fearful to endure for children and those who feel powerless to escape it, and at the very least it destroys any sense of safety and trust. Since that challenge I've stopped watching live feeds & rarely check this board, so I know I'm a bit late in this thread, but glad to see such a heartfelt article posted here. As another person who had an admittedly emotional response to this season's events, I'm just adding my two cents here. I'm tuning in tonight, can't wait to see jury questions and the response to Eric's revelation! A little emotional distance goes a long way, and I wish both winners, Dick & Danielle, the best.
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