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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 3:20 pm
I'm curious--why do the HGs and sometimes viewers hate floaters? The term itself implies "shifty" and "no good" behavior. In Zach's case truly no one would have him, so he really had no choice. He got to final three regardless, but maybe some people would say because he "floated" he doesn't deserve to win. So why do we hate floaters? I think we just don't like players or people that aren't affliated with a group.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 3:31 pm
Honestly, I can't figure it, Nyheat. If I had to guess, I'd just say that they bore viewers in general. I guess knuckledragging caveman antics win viewer hearts... well, not this viewer. I'm a fan of floaters or anyone who can stay under the radar to stay in the game and then BAM- step up to the plate to really stay when it comes down to the wire. Zach was targeted over and over and over and had little or no support unless his vote was needed. What I don't get is that these people don't think more about their impact on the endgame while they're screwing everyone and their dog to the wall to get there. Dunno.
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 3:42 pm
I wasn't a fan of floaters before my cousin, but after that....it's a different story I think anyone who can get to the finals by any means deserves to be there. If you can do it by floating, good for you!
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 3:47 pm
Beckie who is your cousin? 
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Smokeymtns
Member
08-11-2007
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 3:47 pm
I wouldn't call Zach a floater. Everybody just ignored him. That was a big mistake. He was just left out of everything, but all the while he was listening to them talk. Some of the HG's were so busy running their mouths that they failed to see and hear vital information. So here we are with the guy that seemed invisible to the rest of the house. I hope he walks away with the big prize - and his honor.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 3:48 pm
I don't "hate" anyone in this game. It's a TV show. I sure dislike some of their actions in the house, but "hate" is a strong word and I try not to use it so casually about people I don't know. I'm with Beckie too on this point. There's lots of different strategies to make it to the end. Floating is as good as any. For viewers, it isn't necessarily as exciting as others. For alliances, I think the feel surprised and snuck up on by them. Floaters a generally under considered. I think it's a big blow to someone's ego to see some one they didn't think much of, surpass them. Also, viers who invest themselves in particular players feel the same sort of surprise that that player feels.
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Wahmmy
Member
07-24-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 3:48 pm
Floating does keep you from drowning in the Sea of Stra Te Gy.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 3:53 pm
I think there are two kinds of floaters--the ones who just sit back and let someone else, or their alliance, do all the work, and those who are workin' it. Juen and Alison and Will were floaters who were workin' it, just like Zach was. Amber just floated along, and practically did nothing. I think the floaters who are working at it are the real gamers.
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Northwestblonde
Member
09-01-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 3:56 pm
In some ways, I don't think you can have any game without floaters. There are just naturally those individuals who don't stand out, don't have attitudes or behaviors that get on everyone nerves (at least initially) until the numbers start dwindling...then everyone starts pointing fingers at those that haven't stood out to have a bullseye put on them and labels them floaters.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:00 pm
They underestimated Zach is all. He's no floater. His butt has been on the line throughout the game and he had noone willing to allign with him. The only time anyone was halfway decent to him is when it benefitted THEM. He's actually pretty smart except for the nonuse of the veto debacle.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:01 pm
<~~~would rather be a floater than a sinker any day.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:01 pm
I wouldn't say I HATE floaters, however, I don't like the the part of their game of not admitting that they are floaters. Admit it, "yes I floated to whichever group was in power each week, and you let me in. You protected me, and I allowed you to do all the dirty work, while I did nothing. Your bad!" Zach hasn't admitted it, so that is why I have a problem with the game he's played.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:02 pm
Puzzled, would Jessica be considered a floater then?
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:03 pm
Zach certainly has admitted that he did whatever he had to do to stay in the house. He did it well. He's still there. AND, he did it himself. Dick ain't his Daddy.
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Smokeymtns
Member
08-11-2007
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:03 pm
Nah, Jess was a "sleeper". LOL just kidding Ahnicka, couldn't resist.
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Kearie
Member
07-21-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:05 pm
I don't appreciate the Floaters Game as much as I the wheeling and dealing and making things happen strategy. Floaters, to me are kind of boring. As far as Zack, I thought he was floating and it really annoyed me. Then about the final 6, I realized he was playing the game, changing his game and behavior depending on who was HOH. I also started wondering if he was going to fool me and come down to the end and kick butt. The thing is, I was never certain this was his plan...so it was hard to get on board with him. I think BB did a disservice to it's viewers and it's HG, by not letting us see more DR and strategy talk during the DR. I think That sucked. I might have had a different view of every HG if I'd seen all the DR.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:05 pm
I agree that Zach did what he had to to stay in the game, but saying he did it by himself I would think is a bit of a stretch...
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:08 pm
Keld I think what he means by that is that no one in the house really included him in their groups, so though people spoke to him, he could definitely see, after trying many times, that people would be civilly polite, but not let them into their inner circles.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:08 pm
LOL Smokey, I think you're right that she was that too. LOL
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Smokeymtns
Member
08-11-2007
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:11 pm
Yes Ahnicka, she was a floating sleeper, and when she finally woke up, she was drifting right out the front door....
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:12 pm
A little off topic, down here Houston way, we may be the ultimate floaters if Tropial Storm Humberto has it's way!
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:14 pm
The oddest part about Zachs game is the fact that the entire house handed him the status of being a "floater" It was amazing watching him beg people to let him in the game. He didn't want to just float it alone. He tried his hardest to create an alliance but no one was interested. You can't fault the guy for playing the game the only way he could. They gave him no other option. I said early on I would have targeted him for eviction for this reason because he was skating by each week while they all would target someone else. I called him "the bob" because he was just bobbin along. Unfortunately, he makes it sound like he salvaged himself when in fact they always just had another target in mind. His game picked up after Jessica was evicted. One thing the Donatos won't admit is that even though they called him a kiss ass it was his ass kissing that kept him in good with them. They thought they were using him when in fact he was using them. Thats a good game move. Towards the end he actually had to win a few things to keep himself safe. However, after all is said and done there was no other game he could have come up with because the house just simply would not let him into the game. So his status of "floater" was not by choice. And something else to consider... if they were all going to vote for Jameka if she had made it to the end just because she was nice, they would have to admit her game was definitely based on floating with a group and that it was her choice to play it that way. I see this as something completely different. Jameka is a clear definition of a floater by choice. Zach was a floater without any other option.
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Tracyt
Member
08-16-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:16 pm
I don't see Zach as a floater at all. He's playd his own game, voted for who he wanted to and won HOH and POV when he needed to. He just never had an alliance, dude made it to the final three all on his own.
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Curtisahahahaha
Member
07-09-2001
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:17 pm
Operating under the radar used to be a good thing in the early days of BB. I still think it's a good strategy. Not sure why it has to be the "f" word.
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:19 pm
Nyheat, Katie Gallagher on Survivor
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