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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Jameka:Deal or No Deal?: Archive through September 06, 2007 users admin

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Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
Don't get me wrong, I like Jess, but she wanted to throw D/D under the bus. That's what this is all about, its a game or it's supposed to be and as Jeanne said "it's in Gods hands and the game is pre-ordained" but I don't think God has anything to do with it, I think its all the producers doing the pre-ordaining.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Exactly, Countrydaze, Jess and Eric were talking about getting d/d out, so people are just plain delusional if they think that if Jess had hoh this week that she wouldn't put up d/d.

Jameka would not be selling out Jess if she took a deal with d/d, are you kidding me? ONe of them are being evicted, why does it have to be Jameka? She wants to win the money just a much as all the others do!

Govols
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07-19-2005

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 8:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Govols a private message Print Post    
She'll take it and pretend it is the worst thing she has ever had to do in her life.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 8:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
If she takes a deal she is just playing the game. Go Jameka !! < I feel very much out of the loop, my monitor died on Saturday, 09/01 and was fortunatley still under warranty so I have done been on much >

Giz
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08-21-2005

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Giz a private message Print Post    
I so agree Govols!

What555456
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06-14-2005

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Countrydaze,

Are you sure its not pre-ordained? What if God's real name is Allison?



Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 9:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
okay, i need to throw my two cents in.

Liars. Guys who say they always tell the truth and never lie will always get out of it when being confronted.

the way to do it?? They say " I changed my mind ".

In other words at 10 am when I promised to give you my vote, I was honest and really meant it. Then at 4 pm I was talking to _____ and then I changed my mind. I wasnt lying!!! at the time, I meant it!

Dick will use this 'old standby' to get out of his lies.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Sunshyne, he only gets out of it if others accept his explanation. He can rationalize his own actions any way he wants. But just because he believes his explanations does not mean anyone else will.

But in the end, it really doesn't matter. This has got to be the most unthinking and uncritical group of people we have ever had in the house. especially when it comes to analyzing The Dick.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
disagree, this group is the most strategic I have seen, well, some of them anyway.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
In some ways, Denecee, I agree.

But when it comes to <77>, they seem to have blinders on. He has been a destructive force to be reckoned with since Day 1 and there has never been a concerted effort to get him out -- only to capitulate to him.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
What, I agree with you....If Dick didn't have any problems with who got put up, whoever the HOH was had no problems. If he had a problem, the whole house knew it, and the HOH was for the most part marked for eviction soon after. (Kali said in an interview that Dick-and to some extent Amber-brought a "dark cloud" over the house early on and it never really recovered).

Strategically however, I have no problem in what Dick's been doing getting him and Dani as far as they can when it comes to who to vote out or align with-what I don't like is HOW he's been enacting his strategies.

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
They were too scared to "rock the boat" (Dick) as they were afraid of what would happen and well all have seen they don't stand up for themselves. They have handed this show to D/D and it's soooooooooooooo frussssssssstraaaaaaating!

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
What... you make a good point. LOL

Streetsmart
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08-06-2006

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 5:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Streetsmart a private message Print Post    
If it wasnt for this stupid AP twist Dick would have been gone half way through the season. Every AP vote went towards helping Dick. He also had a person in the house that would NEVER put him up in his DAUGHTER. He was handed this game on a silver platter.

If he dares to demand Jameka swear on the bible she wont do it!

Just_gail
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08-25-2007

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Just_gail a private message Print Post    
I hope Jameka doesn't swear on the Bible for Dick. If she doesn't and he and Danielle keep her anyway, then she will know he is all bluff and bluster. And so will the rest of us.

Streetsmart
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08-06-2006

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Streetsmart a private message Print Post    
When he comes to her with this deal she will see it as a sign. She will think of him as the devil and wont make a deal with the devil to save herself IMHO.

Its an analogy i think would stand out in her mind.

Lanative
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07-24-2007

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 7:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lanative a private message Print Post    
I hope your right Streetsmart ---I really want Jameka to refuse his offer, if it sends her home at least she stood up to him. I want someone to stand up to him.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I so hope you are correct, Streetsmart. Jameka is not a phony person. I just hope Dick doesn't threaten her and make her panic.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 9:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Nah, I think that Jameka knows Dick better than that. I hope she tells him, "I'll vote the way you want but I won't swear on my bible about it and I will pray that I win the next pov."
She has nobody to save but herself and if she really thought about it, she is in an "alliance" with two people who have already thrown her under the bus. I think Jameka is the only person who has not thrown somebody under the bus.
She is not my favorite but I like her and think she would be a good friend to have.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
I think D/D might be overreaching here....apparently they were talking about altering the offer to give to Jam-not only do they want her to vote her way at F5 if they keep her and use or not use POV at F5 their way if they keep her and she wins it-they want her to throw the F4 HOH if they keep her (because only one of D/D would be able to play, assuming one of them won HOH first this week). So basically it's "We'll keep you for this eviction and next eviction, but then unless you win POV at F4 you're gone, and BTW, it'll be 3 against 1 for that comp." (Dick/Dani/Zach vs Jameka). I hope she tells Dick to go smite himself...and apparently the plan still is if she turns the deal down, she's gone...

Lucymac
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07-06-2005

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lucymac a private message Print Post    
At final 4, don't they all play for HOH? If that is the deal they insist on I would be surprised if she took it and I really think if Dick tries to get her to swear on a Bible she won't take any deal. What would be the incentive to make a deal with the devil if it only buys you another week or two because it is obvious they intend to have her out before final 3?

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
No lucy, F3 HOH is the only time a person can win HOH back to back (so if one of D/D win HOH tonight (F5), that person can't play in F4 HOH-it would be one of D/D, Zach, and Jameka playing if Jess/Eric both go tonight)

The only reason Jameka would take the deal is if she thinks her chances of winning POV at F4 are decent enough. That, not the HOH, is the crucial comp at F4 (since if you're not HOH and you win it, you become the person with the only eviction vote). Then, you have 2 chances to get to the final part of the F3 HOH (let's assume Jameka did win POV and Zach went. It would be 2 on 1 in the first part, which is endurance, and if Jameka lost that, she would be 1 on 1 with whatever of D/D didn't win part 1-usually, the 2nd part is remembering the order of eviction ,HOH wins, and POV wins. If she lost that, she's done (as D/D is guranteed to win HOH, and they'll take each other). If she won one of part 1 or part 2, Part 3 is usually how well you know the jury members and each other (they ask the jury people questions about who of the F3 are more annoying, trustworthy, etc.)

So if Jameka takes the modified deal, she has to win three comps to make it to the final 2- F4 POV, either part 1 or part 2 of F3 HOH, and part 3 of F3 HOH- which is difficult, but not impossible.)

Bubba
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07-29-2005

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bubba a private message Print Post    
I think she should just say," If you keep me, then we will talk." She knows it benefits them to get rid of Jess, why deal?

Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carrie92 a private message Print Post    
No deal, Howie!

She wont let him use her religious beliefs as a strategy ploy.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 8:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
I agree, Carrie. D/D are waiting too long to make this offer and are doing it all wrong.

A more direct and honest approach made yesterday would have worked, I think. But Dick's desire to trivialize and mock her religious beliefs will backfire.

What he fails to understand is that a religious person like Jam will see this as a test from God and will see sacrificing the game for God to be a far higher calling than getting the money. It almost becomes too easy for her to know the "right" response. It is a black and white text book question for a religious person -- the type of thing even children are taught in Sunday school -- is money more important to you than God? They all know the answer.

If D/D had played it without the religious angle, she would have to really think it through.

If Jam had a more sophisticated theology, she could take it and not have any moral qualms. But her's is a simple, straightforward and non-nuanced faith and she will respond in that way.