Author |
Message |
Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:23 am
i recognize "harassment" as a "strategy" in the game - especially when the rules and line are very thin.. and i wouldn't expect the rules and line to change going forward.. however, what has left a really bad taste for me is the scope and lengths dick (and dani through her encouragement) go in their behavior.. it goes beyond vulgar and i'm just not a jerry springer type of fan.. so it makes me very uncomfortable and i consequently have no respect for their "strategy" or gamemanship.. i try hard not to judge them as people.. cause one i know i'm not supposed to judge anyone - and that's the code of religious conduct i do try (often unsuccessfully) to live by.. but because i recognize that we really don't know them.. but i have to say that they show this type of behavior in their "private space" and not just in the "strategy" parts of the game.. like in a competition.. dick shows us everyday that he uses putting down others to pump himself up in his private peptalks to himself.. using falsehoods and things out of context mixed in.. using really vulgar names etc for the others.. all to himself.. i have to feel really sorry for someone who has to resort to that to build self esteem for himself in private.. nevermind public as julie asked.. and it was a good question and dick really didn't have an answer for it.. if it's strategy then why do you do it after the competitions.. and he clearly said cause he wants "everyone out here" which i assume (dangerous i know) to mean america to know.. then it's not just strategy.. it's what he really thinks and means.. and that's where it's just completely over the line for me.. the scope and content of the bullying is just so disgusting and vulgar and nasty.. saying zach is a role model for sex offenders last night just was based in nothing.. ugh..
|
Suzsmarmie
Member
07-26-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:26 am
Really, Smokey? Ewwww...what in the world would be so "fitting in" by saying something like that? That statement is just nasty, no matter how it's said..
|
Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:26 am
Dani being kind to Zach after the comp...hard to tell if she really has a heart or if it was just more game play just in case Zach is the one who ends up choosing which of them get to go to F2. That was my thought exactly. I thought on the munching Jessicas panties thing that Dick said something first about it and Zach also commented. I forget the circumstances but I think Dick twisted things around a bit. I also thought the stuff about Sweets was something Zach told Dani in private when she was buddying up to him one of those times so Zach had to know Dani told Dick it all. I think the "white" comment was blown way out of proportion and I don't know about the little people comment. I don't remember hearing anything but I could see Zach saying something strange and off the wall. Anyone else know?
|
Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:27 am
"as julie asked.. and it was a good question and dick really didn't have an answer for it.. if it's strategy then why do you do it after the competitions.. and he clearly said cause he wants "everyone out here" which i assume (dangerous i know) to mean america to know.. then it's not just strategy.. it's what he really thinks and means.. and that's where it's just completely over the line for me.. " Excellent point Nick. It has been his excuse since day one...not so valid anymore.
|
Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:28 am
I've always seen Big Brother as a Jerry Springer kind of show and total entertainment. When I want to watch a show with high morals I watch Touched By An Angel or Little House on the Prairie.
|
Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:30 am
Anybody else here think that Dick will be moving a LOT slower than Zack when he gets out of bed later today...if in fact he CAN get out of bed!
|
Suzsmarmie
Member
07-26-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:30 am
Ok, Milos...please send $250 for a new computer monitor to replace the one I just spit coffee on! ROFLMBO!!
|
Jbabygirl
Member
09-11-2007
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:33 am
Do I have to download something special to view it. I can see the youtube one but not the demonoid one?
|
Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:37 am
Dick's legs held out far longer than I ever expected. I think it was the arm that did him in.
|
Jodikay
Member
07-26-2006
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:39 am
The thing is, Dick has said so much worse than Zach ever thought about saying! The things he said to Jen were much more perverted than panty munching, which I'm sure was just a joke that didn't go over well. I think what gets me the most about D/D, is how upset they are that Zach turned on them, then turn around and tell Jameka they had planned on taking her to the final 3. They can do what they want, turn on Eric and Jess for example, but if someone else tries it, watch out!! Guess it's game, but I don't like the level they take it to. It's so foul-mouthed, and in the end, they've done this to so many, I think Zach actually has a chance at winning. I sure as heck didn't think that a few weeks ago. Of course now that I've started rooting for him, I dont' expect him to win, he'll get beat out in the final comp. That's my luck, lol.
|
Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:41 am
Jbaby...what file type did you dl from demonoid or did you not dl that file yet. Give me as much info as you can and I'll tell you what you need. and Sky WOW Dick lasted 4 1/2 hrs more than Dani?? I just went by what she told him on a youtube I saw, and she said how he lasted 2 hours more. Was gonna check the times but didn't get to it. Not sure what time I fell asleep. And lol sorry bout the typo earlier but least it was a good one. And yup I think Dick is gonna be in BIG trouble today seriously. At one point when his lump wasn't moving BB asked if he was ok, so think they were concerned too. These comps are getting a bit insane/dangerous. Dani said she was crying because her hangs stung in pain when hot water hit them (and they were so cold). Imagine over 4 hours more of that. I think they needed to stop the comp and fix the rabbit cause jumping would have ended sooner and kept the body moving, not just hours or TORTURE w/cold water hosed on them. Geez
|
Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:43 am
I've always seen Big Brother as a Jerry Springer kind of show and total entertainment. When I want to watch a show with high morals I watch Touched By An Angel or Little House on the Prairie. i never indicated that i think people have to play this game with "high morals".. clearly i've agreed with strategies that have included deceit and lying etc.. and i stated i didn't expect the rules to change to make it a show of morality.. every houseguest there has lied or said nasty things or deceived people.. zach's my fav.. i've stuck by him all season.. but he hasn't been a complete angel by any means.. my comment was on the scope of the vulgar content and that it leaves a very uncomfortable and bad taste for me... but yes.. we'll disagree cause i really don't have any appreciation for the jerry springer show.. laughs.. and if bb turned into that (the direction they're heading) then i'll probably just sign off on it..
|
Jbabygirl
Member
09-11-2007
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:43 am
i just clicked on where it said download this torrent
|
Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:46 am
Could we just not forget that Dani is the one who turned to Dick and motioned for him to trash talk Zach and she did it several times with a real begging pitiful face before he went off. Bad as it was (and it WAS bad), I blame Dani more than Dick. He was just doing what his daughter begged him to do, and as we saw he'll do most anything if she begs. Sigh. Also, I'm sorry, at that point I do NOT think anyone was faking anything. She prepared food for BOTH, she went in the room to ask if Zach was ok. I didn't sense any strategy. It may be a game, they may play dirty, but come on. They both are human beings and that was a comp from HELL. I have no doubt it was sincere. They may want him to lose, but that doesn't mean they can't or wouldn't show some civility under such horrid conditions. And it looked like Zach went to help Dick up and the slapped hands right before it. I don't think that part was game for any of them!
|
Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:48 am
I agree wholeheartedly, Nick. Me too.
|
Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:49 am
lol J baby that doesn't help much. Not sure exactly where or what your problem is Ok here's a question. Do you have software to dl a torrent such as uTorrent or BitComet? You need one of those to dl any torrent. Then when you dl it, depending on file type you might need to add a divixx or another add on to Real to view it (but that's typically for movies).
|
Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:49 am
When I want to watch a show with high morals I watch Touched By An Angel on the flip side, if I wanted to watch and listen to a show with the vile disgusting behaviour of Dick/Dani, I would watch Jerry Springer that kind of behaviour isn't the ONLY way to make a show interesting and fun to watch
|
Messalina
Member
06-19-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:50 am
I hope everyone remembers how Dick acted after Dani won the last POV. I don't have to draw a picture. You all know what he said and how he behaved. Now, compare this to how Zach has behaved after winning last night's comp. And compare his behavior today (which I'm sure will be classy) to the way Dick would act under the reverse circumstances. So Zach has said a few not-so-classy things. He still stands head and shoulders in the class department (and good sportmanship department too) over Dick on his very best day. Zach is a winner in more ways than one. IMO he's the winner of BB8 and I'm not talking about money.
|
Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:51 am
blame Dani more than Dick whatever came out of Dick's mouth was HIS reponsibility, not Dani's
|
Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:52 am
Could we just not forget that Dani is the one who turned to Dick and motioned for him to trash talk Zach and she did it several times with a real begging pitiful face before he went off. Bad as it was (and it WAS bad), I blame Dani more than Dick. He was just doing what his daughter begged him to do, and as we saw he'll do most anything if she begs. Sigh. absolutely.. dani instigated that and instigated her father's behavior all through the game.. she's spoken ill of her father in the game.. she's treated him at times horrifically when he's tried to make decent overtures to her.. and in private (well as private as you can be in the house but i mean away from the other houseguests).. she's played this game hard but in a very nasty way.. i think what separates this gameplay from past years is there hasn't seemed to be a line between the gameplay and the person - we had the comic relief and private conversations between will and boogie that gave us an ongoing dialogue of their strategy as they carried it out.. people accepted it.. but turned on boogie's treatment of erica because of his words and attitude about her behind her back.. that's where we keep finding dani and dick.. without that sort of private demarcation...
|
Tissy
Member
07-28-2003
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:53 am
my comment was on the scope of the vulgar content and that it leaves a very uncomfortable and bad taste for me... Tbh it made me feel sick to the stomach when I heard what he said about Jen. I wonder how Dick would have reacted if anyone said anything even remotely as obscene as that to his daughter?
|
Delilah
Member
07-08-2005
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:54 am
I think what gets me the most about D/D, is how upset they are that Zach turned on them, then turn around and tell Jameka they had planned on taking her to the final 3. They can do what they want, turn on Eric and Jess for example, but if someone else tries it, watch out!! Jodikay - I think all the HGs are guilty of this kind of one-sided, biased view of how things should be handled. Take Zach, for example. Last week when he put up Dick and Daniele he said their tactics were horrible. Yet for 11 weeks, he went along with them because they benefited his game, as well. Now, when they don't they are "horrible." I'm just saying that they all have a skewed perspective.
|
Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:55 am
Milo I too LOL'd at your post, but I must say beyond that I'm sad that is what AS/AG turned BB into. I don't think it always was Jerry Springer, but by casting ONLY those type folks this year, that's what we got. I strongly think BB has the potential to be far better with a diverse cast of different moral fibers. I looked all year for someone to LOVE and fully support. It ended up who I hated least. In the past there have been some decent folks and ironically the usually end up major fan favs (Kaysar, Jason, Janelle--who was basically good lol). I still don't get why they are casting as they are. Clearly they don't want the love fest of BB1, but they don't trust in casting a truly diverse group and that drama will still happen. I think fans would love it, but I'm scared after the ratings this year next year will be all Dick's (you should pardon the expression but I was using his name hehe). I don't think it has to be this big an extreme either way between those type shows IMHO
|
Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:55 am
and please.. i really am not trying to bash anyone.. i'm trying to discuss behavior (not the people themselves) and gameplay and strategy..
|
Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:58 am
Give me a break. This is where kids learn today to not accept responsibility for their own actions. You control yourself. No one else. Dani is repsonsible for what she did. Dick is responsible for every word out of his mouth.
|