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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Myth: All Made Nice and Friendly after Challenge 1: Archive through September 12, 2007 users admin

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Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
I have read on several threads about how generous and friendly the HG were last night after the challenge. Not!

After "The Fall" of Dick he collapsed on the ground next to the stump. Dani ran away from him to get HIM towels. Zach made sure all saw him holding his key for a brief second and then quickly ran to see if he could help Dick. Tried to help him up...was rebuffed. After Dani got him in the house, and he was cared for, She fixed him and Zach some hot tea without much convo. Did not make nice other than that. Zach changed and cared for himself alone with no offers of help. Dani started making cheese sandwiches for herself and Daddy. Zach started looking for something to eat...ask her if she was making sandwiches...she did not offer him one and said as little as possible. He went into the storage room, still foraging, and when he came out she had thought better of it and offered him a sandwich and soup. He was relegated to eat at the living room coffee table while D/D ate and strategized and whispered at the dining table. Dick passed Zach several times and did not speak. Zach attempted to talk to them several times and was given no answer or a short one. I went to bed pretty soon after that, but I don't call that being friendly on the Donatos part. What did I miss?

Carochar
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07-25-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carochar a private message Print Post    
Thanks so much for posting this, AC. This isn't at all the impression one gets reading the thread for the comp. Since I didn't see it myself, I'm glad to read your account as well.

Hmmmmmmmm. Mmmmmmmmmmmm.

Smrtass
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09-11-2000

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smrtass a private message Print Post    
You missed Daniele bringing Zach both a hot drink and hot food on the couch. Admonishing him not to get up, that she would bring it to him. When he went to do his dishes, again, she admonished him and said that she would do it.

I think she did give him cursory responses to a couple of his statements. Not chatty, but not really rude.

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
Smrtass, I did see those things now that you mention it. And, I wouldn't say rude, either. But, I keep reading how warm and friendly everybody was. It just ain't so.

Just_gail
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08-25-2007

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Just_gail a private message Print Post    
D and D had previously discussed Zach's dish-washing abilities (or lack thereof) and agreed that he shouldn't be allowed to wash dishes. So telling him not to do it wasn't necessarily an act of concern for his well-being. She just doesn't think he does a good enough job.

Smrtass
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09-11-2000

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smrtass a private message Print Post    
Zach thanked Daniele for her kindness more than once. Daniele was in nurture mode, making food, hot tea(?), and seeing to both of them. Warm and friendly? I don't know, but at least she tended to him. Dick was beyond exhausted. I did see him give Zach a kind of good-going tap on the shoulder as he passed him once.

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
Daniele helped Zach pin his microphone on his shirt after he got dressed to. It was kind of cute. He was fumbling but his fingers wouldn't work. He walked up to Dani and asked for help. She obliged. He looked like a little boy getting his shirt buttoned on the first day of school.

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
All true, Smrtass. I did not see the tap. And Dani's nurture mode was evident.

Tk27
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07-04-2004

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tk27 a private message Print Post    
This is so wrong this thread and I'm cheering for Zack. Zack went to the living room himself. Dani brought him out soup drink grilled cheese sandwhich. Zack went to get up to get but Dani told him to sit and rest. I saw Dick walk by Zack before that and slap him on the back and say good job. It was the most compasionate I have seen either Dick or Dani be to any one.

Flowergirl
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08-22-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flowergirl a private message Print Post    
Good luck with that, Archie. It's been tough to keep things friendly around here. I had a similar experience so I feel your pain!! I was up all night and didn't see anything friendly other than the hot tea and Zach checking on ED just after the comp ended.

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
tk27, most of what you say has already been mentioned and agreed. Why is this thread wrong?

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Although I HATE to admit it, Dick was pretty decent last night during the last part of the competition and after the fall. He complimented Zack on his ability to keep going about half an hour or so before he stepped off, fell off, whatever. And he did give Zack the tap on the shoulder mentioned above.

Dani was rushing to help Dick and Zack did join them. Dick stayed outside wrapped in towels to smoke a cigarette and Zack came inside and changed into warm dry clothes. Dani made a hot drink and carried it out to Dick. He came inside and made his way to the bedroom. She then went and made a cup of tea and plunked it down in front of Zack. And then she made the sandwich for Dick and also a few minutes later one for Zack. She did not speak to Zack except to tell him when he was going to find some food for himself that she was making him a sandwich. He was very shocked at this and truly appreciative. He went to the couch with a glass of water and she brought him the sandwich.

I think Dani helped Zack relucantly but she did help him. I'm not sure she had a moment of consciousness about how broken he was or she was thinking that she might need to present this situation in a better light, or she might indeed just have been doing it out of the kindness of her heart, but she did it and it was the right thing for her to do.

And it was a welcome relief from the ugly that had been all over the house the last few days.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
I'm not warm and friendly either, but I am still a good person. I tend towards a more cool and thinking mode of being -- I'm not a feeler (at least not in Myers-Briggs personality terms, I'm not). I'm an ENTP and my profile explains why I come across oftentimes as a bit indifferent. My perception of Dani is that she is likely to be an INTJ. And I think ED is probably an ESFJ. Zach, an ISFP. But it's all guessing!

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
I guess the question is whether it will last. I don't think Dani is so incapable of compassion that she can't make someone a little more comfortable after a grueling endurance comp. On the other hand, some people are praising her for making a cup of tea like she's Mother Teresa or something. IMO, the only reason she's being given props for it is because she's been pretty awful to him in the past.

It would be nice to see her exercise her compassion for others more often. It shouldn't take a seven-hour endurance comp to earn a cup of tea.

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
*poof* thanks for the mods.....they are underappreciated!

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
I'm not a Daniele fan, but I was pretty impressed with how she took charge and seemed to know exactly what to do. She had hot drinks for them and told both of them to rest. Then she whipped up probably the best thing for them to eat. Soup and grilled cheese. Her grandmother taught her something right.

Nick
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07-31-2004

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
she did the above but i don't recall that she ever asked zach things like "are you ok".. "is there anything you need".. etc... he did thank her over and over again as he chattered etc...

and the dishwashing problem was with eric not zach... i think zach said he wanted to do his dishes too and i believe dani rolled her eyes and let him...

and i got the impression that zach wasn't really welcome to join d/d in the kitchen after trying to talk to them so he plunked down sort of exiled in the living room and ate alone..

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Jeanne...if I knew what any of that meant, I might agree. Or disagree. lol

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I just think that Dani is a very young, immature girl with major issues. Hopefully she will grow out of them. I don't think she's a very warm, fuzzy person though, but that is probably protective.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Daniele did Zach's dishes last night. She said something like, don't be silly, I'll do them.

Nick
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07-31-2004

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
ok thanks for the correction beekindpleez

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
My two cents...

I think it was a pretty traumatic PART 1 and the fact they held on for 7+ hours...I'm sure they were all in their own heads.

Everyone in the house very concerned for Dick.

It wasn't really a joyous occassion. Not a chatty occassion. They weren't ready to party and whoop it up.

It was time to respect each other. It was time to reflect, to warm up, to eat...to heal.

Nice and friendly just wasn't on the agenda...raw and real emotion and concern were.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
LOL, Bee!!! It's easy to look up online! (Type in INTJ) and a description will come up, LOL!

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
She did ask Zach if he was ok once when he was sitting on the floor eating.

Archiecat
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08-16-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Archiecat a private message Print Post    
Thanks Roxip, Jeanne and Nyheat...Those are mostly what I think too.....except I don't understand all the initials...LOL