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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Use of Church/Organ Music Offensive or Fair?: ARCHIVES: Archive through August 14, 2007 users admin

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Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
Should anyone be offended that they play metal music for Dick's segments?

Same thing for the organ music. It's just setting the mood for the scene.

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
How can it be offensive of Jameka and
Amber to pray? They are doing it as privately as the BB house allows.

Prayer is not a prescripted mouth full of thees and thines. It is a conversation. Yes, we can ask for things and get told no, but it doesn't mean we can't ask.

<77>

Again I agree that God doesn't care about gamehows, but he does care about his people.

As for the organ music? Yes I find it offensive. If BB wasnts to play Christian music, there are many more contemporary worship songs to choose from.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
I guess I would be more 'okay' with the music if they didn't play it every time someone prayed. It seems to be poking fun at prayer / Christianity.

If BB did it occasionally, like if someone said "God is calling upon me to use this veto" then it is more fair and humorous imo.

I am too tired to try to articulate why... maybe others out there feel the same

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
My parrot is offened by metal music. It takes a while to settle her down.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Kicking a drug habit is very, very difficult. For many people, faith in a God who can help them with everything at every moment in their lives is what carries them through.

While I totally have a different understanding of faith than Amber does, I would never do anything to undermine her understanding. As a priest friend of mine says, "the church needs to meet people where they are."

The organ music, I think, was in response to her sobbing and wearing those earpieces not a blanket slur on Christianity. It wasn't kind, but that's BB.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
Holy Shit! I can't believe how many posts there are in here since I left!

It will take me till tomorrow to properly sift through them and inject proper commentary.

Bravo!

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
The thing that offends me about BB in this instance is that they had to know what they were getting in Jameka. She was probably cast just for that purpose, because they have seen how religion in the past BB houses has caused controversy.

OK, I can buy that, and if the other houseguests mock them then so be it. They signed up for it.

But for BB to do it is really uncalled for. It is like they are saying, "Hey, America, did you notice these religious freaks? We are going to play church music when they pray, just in case you didn't get the joke." Seems a bit cruel and unfair to me.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I was interested in Amber praying the other night alone in the HOH. It was unlike any prayer I had ever heard. It showed me that this was a person who was new to prayer and had not learned it in an organized religion.

It was like she was just having a conversation with God and asking him to help her get through things. She even said "Excuse me," when she burpped. And she was just talking in a very conversational voice, like she was just talking to another person in the room.

I was more touched by that then anything I have ever seen with Amber.

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
A quick comment before reading all the previous stuff since I last posted--

BB has the advantage of all the Dr stuff as well as their profiles and psych evals, etc.

IF... IF... they thought someone was serious about their beliefs, would they then poke fun at it? OR... OR... do they know things that we do not? Things that empower them to poke fun?

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
Allietex, I agree...and actually that is kinda how I pray...just a conversation......and I also say "excuse me" even when I am alone.... yikes!!

Ohiomobprincess
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11-07-2003

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 1:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ohiomobprincess a private message Print Post    
I'm glad to see that many agreed with my statement about the organ music mocking Jameka's religious beliefs. I have tried to block it out, so I haven't noticed if BB has continued to play it.

Allietex, I completely agree with your post!!!

Kiersten_love
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kiersten_love a private message Print Post    
<77> I was LMAO, when I was watching this Sunday's BB show and they played the organ music when Jam was praying. All I could think of was are you kidding me? Are you serious? This is like a freaking joke to me, sorry but to me it was a laughable moment in all instances. Not laughable in a religious way, just the moment, it was a funny moment to me!

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
<<All I could think of was are you kidding me? Are you serious? This is like a freaking joke to me>>

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this....it was a joke that Jameka was praying? It was a joke that BB played organ music to scenes of her praying?

I don't mind different opinions

Kiersten_love
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kiersten_love a private message Print Post    
Sharinia? Did you not see my last line?

Not laughable in a religious way, just the moment, it was a funny moment to me!

It was just a funny moment, caught me way off guard when I heard that tonight. But definitely not laughing at Jam's or Amber's praying.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
I was talking to a cousin while re-watching the latest show, she heard that organ music and said "that is sooooo wierd and annoying! What is that?" So I tried to explain to her...needless to say, I ended up telling her "Guess you have to watch it for yourself to get it!" LOL

By the way...this cousin doesn't watch BB! :-(

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
<<Should anyone be offended that they play metal music for Dick's segments?

Same thing for the organ music. It's just setting the mood for the scene.>>

Interesting point...I have considered this, too. Admittedly, there seems to be a leap for anyone to get offended by the playing of church-type music when prayer etc is brought up in the house.

But the fact that so many find it humorous to me suggests that the perception that it is mocking and not just 'innocent' background music is a fair one.

Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
I thought the funny part was when Jameka was praying so fast she was hard to understand and the music was playing and Jen walked in to the picture and was complaining about the black belt with the bunny suit.

I think the music is to make everyone notice how much these 2 players pray and how little else they do to win.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 3:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
And from the first moment that BB played that music I thought they were making fun of Jameka and Amber and by extension all Christians.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 3:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
<<Sharinia? Did you not see my last line? Not laughable in a religious way, just the moment, it was a funny moment to me!>>

oops - just caught your reply...

yes, i saw your last line - guess i just wasn't sure what you meant

thanks :-)

Toolhound
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06-22-2007

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 3:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toolhound a private message Print Post    
I think BB was making fun of Jameka and Amber with the church music. Anyone that plays a game to win $500,000.00 and thinks they can win by praying instead of playing should be made fun of.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 3:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
One question...how can anyone know for sure what is going on in Jameka and Amber minds? How can anyone here know what is truly in their hearts? We are not omnipotent or omniscient so therefore we as humans cannot know...only God knows if they are truly praying for the right reasons.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 4:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
"I was interested in Amber praying the other night alone in the HOH. It was unlike any prayer I had ever heard. It showed me that this was a person who was new to prayer and had not learned it in an organized religion. "

(Disclaimer: I'm Catholic.) Amen. I was always taught that prayer was a solemn occasion. I would not have been wearing headphones or lounging in bed like she was. IMO her "prayer" was a joke. Thus, for me, the music was quite fitting. It made the "moment" for me.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 4:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
P.S. When I pray, I pray to myself. I don't throw myself on the floor in such a dramatic way so that every camera in the room can take a good shot of me praying my little heart out.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 4:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
I have talked to God driving down the road with my radio tuned to a country station, sitting in a Doctor's office, in the grocery store with the overhead speakers blaring out something, and out in the woods totally alone with the cacophony of the birds round about me. I hope that doesn't make me a laughing stock also!

As I said, ONLY GOD can truly know what is in your heart and in your mind...we don't know so we shouldn't be passing judgment.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 4:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
And like I said, for me prayer is a solemn occasion.