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Merrysea
Member
08-13-2004
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:01 pm
Not every person who drinks too much is an alcoholic.
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Jenhavins
Member
08-23-2000
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:02 pm
I wouldn't put too much faith in these all being legitimate. As Milosmom stated and linked, there is no CA Penal Code 253.5
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:02 pm
Merrysea, I said ANYONE who has two DUIs is an alcoholic.
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Bluejaxrock
Member
04-23-2004
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:04 pm
I live in C'bus, OH, and our county's website (not all OH counties) has a public access site where you can look up someone to see if they've ever been charged with a crime and what the outcome was (guilty, innocent, fine, costs, probation, jail time, etc.) Metropolitan CA counties don't have this? It's public record, but used to be you had to go to the court to get the info, now it's all online. 11 years ago I was charged with improper handling of a firearm...sounds pretty bad, huh? I was stopped on my way to my first gun class (how to clean, shoot, etc.) and the gun was in the vehicle, loaded. Since I hadn't taken a class, I didn't know the bullets had to be separated from the gun. I've had prospective employers ask me about the charge, and when they hear the story, they laugh. And even if a charge is dismissed, it stays on your record unless you file a request with the court to expunge it.
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Joyfuld
Member
08-16-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:14 pm
I am all for finding out if these charges are legit but as I said before my opinion of Dick was formed long before the disputed charges came about.
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Joyfuld
Member
08-16-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:15 pm
People who drink too much on a regular basis would be an alcoholic, yes?
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:18 pm
You can get a DUI very quickly these days, and I agree with it. Important to keep those dangers off the street, can't be too careful. But I think accusing anyone who has two dui's as being an alcoholic is going a bit far. I know a LOT of alcoholics obviously!
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:22 pm
i am certain there are plenty of alcoholics who have never had duis and there are plenty of people who had duis who are not alcoholics! so there!
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Joyfuld
Member
08-16-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:24 pm
I guess having 2 DUIs would mean one of 3 things. You are dumb, you are dumb and an alcoholic or you are just an alcoholic. 2 DUIs for real? I do want proof but anyone with 2 DUIs will never get any respect from me.
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Carmenv
Member
04-14-2006
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:42 pm
I really don't think you can reasonably draw the conclusion that: ANYONE who has two DUIs is an alcoholic That is a pretty bold brush to be painting with...
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:45 pm
They changed the thread over at Reality BBQ to "Dick's Alleged Criminal History". After clicking on link, they now say someone posted this but we haven't seen the record for ourselves...
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:45 pm
"-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I really don't think you can reasonably draw the conclusion that: ANYONE who has two DUIs is an alcoholic That is a pretty bold brush to be painting with..." Well you can definetely say that person has poor judgement, is irresponsible, and is a danger to others!
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Gemini42
Member
08-01-2007
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:46 pm
So what is this supposed to achieve other than to make us not like him. I will agree that I was prepared not to like him in the beginning but he has certainly grown on me. As for these charges, I would need more details. It would appear that he had his liscense revoked and was probably warned of further infractions or it would be pernament. That in itself is enough to make one change their ways. This happened to a friend of mine and it certainly changed him. It changed G. W. too, didn't it? But then I think Laura Bush had a lot to do with that. IMHO
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Joyfuld
Member
08-16-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:46 pm
I suppose a persons license would be pulled for 2 DUIs? Was there a driving without a license charge too?
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Carmenv
Member
04-14-2006
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:47 pm
I totally agree with that, Boberg, absolutely, but it just doesn't necessarily make them an alcoholic. The two things are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 2:29 pm
The thread at the site these things were posted at has now been amended to "Dicks ALLEGED crimes"
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 2:47 pm
"anyone with 2 DUI's is an alcoholic" Bull crap. Even if this list it correct, which is looking doubtful a DUI isn't always for drinking. and one of his listed says pot. So a DUI for pot makes you an alcoholic? <el>
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 3:19 pm
"So a DUI for pot makes you an alcoholic? " No, I think that makes you a dope head or druggie.
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Joyfuld
Member
08-16-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 4:01 pm
bogberg thanks for a good laugh lol
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 4:02 pm
Here's a related story: My boyfriend's brother was drinking with some friends in a park this past weekend. The other guys pulled out a joint, to which his brother said he was not interested. He asked for his friend's car keys so he could go pass out in the car, and not be involved in the drug use. He put the keys in the ignition to listen to music while lying alone, instead of being bored. Cops drive by, see him lying in the car, and the keys in the ignition. He is now charged with DUI, and HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE HIS LICENSE!!!!! hahahahaha It's a case of a really innocent situation turned into something that looks REALLLLLY bad on paper. I've known my boyfriend's brother for over 5 years now, and I KNOW he is just a kid who was in the wrong combination of events. I feel so bad for him right now, and we are hoping we can get this taken off his record (not that it will go that far, hopefully). But I just think that things on paper should not ALWAYS be used to evaluate one's character.
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Joyfuld
Member
08-16-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 4:12 pm
Eeyores you are right about being cautious on the the arrest record. I want proof positive before I have a hissy fit lol. I honestly made my mind up about Dick long before the alleged charges were posted. I do not need validation of them to make up my mind. If they are proven false my opinion will not change and if they are proven true it just helps to cement my feelings. I do think they need to be validated.
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Cndeariso
Member
06-28-2004
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 5:27 pm
i've gone to The Smoking Gun website, where previous Big Brother contestants have been outed about their criminal records, and there is NOTHING on Dick there at all. as controversial as Dick is they would definitely have published it if there was any truth to it.
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Joyfuld
Member
08-16-2005
| Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 5:38 pm
Cndeariso I noticed that also that is why I am not believing it yet. I am curious in that intell does have 6 records on him but one must pay to view them.
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Webchiq
Member
07-11-2005
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 7:59 am
Lots of people have arrest records and make bad judgment calls, why does this matter?
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Dbald
Member
08-04-2007
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 10:26 am
My daughter got a dui...she was out with friends the designated driver fluffed on them and she instantly stopped drinking...she had one beer...4 hours later, after drinking soda they left and she was pulled over she was laughing at something and the car swerved...cop took one look at her asked if she had been drinking she said a while ago, one beer he said your going to fail...my daughter is 5'4 and weighs 100 pounds, doesn't always depend on what you drink. (and yes, I believe her, she has called me from bars, she knows we don't care if she parties and has a good time with her friends, alcohol or otherwise)
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