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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:13 pm
Askme It depends on the version of the bible. The most common is the King James which usually says "root of all evil." It has also been phrased in other bibles as "a root of all sorts of evils," and in others still as "the love of money placed before the love of God is the root of all evil." My point is that there is a big difference between saying money is the root of all evil and THE LOVE OF money is the root of all evil. The other phrasings do not make nearly as wide a difference in meaning, they are still saying love of money is a root of evils, as opposed to money in and of itself.
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Govols
Member
07-19-2005
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:13 pm
Battlestar~exactly! What's funny is the only person left that she likes is Jess. She doesn't like any of the others~including Eric. She would have no problem voting him out.
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Swannanoa
Member
07-09-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:16 pm
Actually I think Jam could take the deal because Dick said "next week" and then renege on Thursday night with the DE telling Dick that it's not "next week". LOL, ok, it's semantics, but it's what I'd do. I'd look him straight in the face and say "You said next week and next week isn't here yet."
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:16 pm
She should take it with no intention of honoring it if it does not benefit her to honor it. Just like D/D are betraying their deal with J/E, even though J/E have honored it each week. But I agree with the posters above. D/D need Jess gone. If Jam does not take the deal at the very end, they are likely to act emotionally and get rid of Jam out of spite. That would be stupid. I think they are over thinking this entire thing and are foolish to go to all of this trouble. Just vote out Jess and then move on from there.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:17 pm
http://bible.cc/1_timothy/6-10.htm Timothy 6:10 has been translated differently in the Bible translations we are used to. New American standard: For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. (NASB ©1995) GWT: Certainly, the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. Some people who have set their hearts on getting rich have wandered away from the Christian faith and have caused themselves a lot of grief. (GOD'S WORD®) King James Version: For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. American Standard Version: For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil: which some reaching after have been led astray from the faith, and have pierced themselves through with many sorrows. BBE: For the love of money is a root of all evil: and some whose hearts were fixed on it have been turned away from the faith, and been wounded with unnumbered sorrows. DRB: For the desire of money is the root of all evils; which some coveting have erred from the faith, and have entangled themselves in many sorrows. DBY: For the love of money is the root of every evil; which some having aspired after, have wandered from the faith, and pierced themselves with many sorrows. ERV: For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil: which some reaching after have been led astray from the faith, and have pierced themselves through with many sorrows. TNT: For covetousness is the root of all evil, which while some lusted after, they erred from the faith, and tangled themselves with many sorrows. WEY: For from love of money all sorts of evils arise; and some have so hankered after money as to be led astray from the faith and be pierced through with countless sorrows. webster's Bible translation : For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some have coveted, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. WEB: For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some have been led astray from the faith in their greed, and have pierced themselves through with many sorrows. YLT: for a root of all the evils is the love of money, which certain longing for did go astray from the faith, and themselves did pierce through with many sorrows; (((((It always fascinates me how each translation can be so slightly diff from each other yet kinda the same))))
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:19 pm
another way Jameka could handle it is Hmmmmmm mmmmmm mmmmmm uh hmmmmmm!!! and I am sure that there are verses which warn againt coming to agreements with those who intend to do you harm. Dick is not the person who should approach Jameka, Dani is. Dick was almost frothing at the mouth talking about wanting to FORCE jameka to take her Bible and swear to her Lord jesus. Dani was getting pretty impatient with him IMHO
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:19 pm
If they do vote out Jameka out of spite, then Jessica and Zach deserve to be F2. However, I don't know who came up with that dumb idea... Daniele wanted it to keep it simple. I hope Dick is not running his mouth again and concot more stupid deals he doesn't need..
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Donut
Member
07-31-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:22 pm
If they ask her to promise that they will be safe "next week" won't she technically be able to break the promise since the comp will be that night??? Unless they word it that she will vote how they want in the 'next vote' versus 'next week' she may get out of the promise on a technicality...
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Lgt
Member
07-28-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:31 pm
Dick told someone she had to look at the camera and swear on the bible she will stick with the deal...can't remember who he was telling that...Dick was even pointing at the camera
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:35 pm
lgt I caught the convo in screencap thread. Even got a pic of ED with eyes bugged out, veins popping and finger pointing at the camera. i bet there would be a youtube around. I try to get the words used but my pc froze up last night and Lost some dialogue
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:39 pm
Dick was daydreaming, talking about the swearing on the bible (he wants to make it complicated when it's really simple). It won't sit well with Daniele when she finds out that Dick went babbling to Jameka she is safe to blindside Jessica and Eric. I think Dick is going to end up screwing up Daniele's game if he doesn't keep his mouth shut.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:59 pm
Jameka is basically taking a final spin regardless if she takes the deal...she'll get either this:
or this.....

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Donut
Member
07-31-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 8:36 pm
nice screencap of dick! (and i am a fan)
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 8:39 pm
I was debating not using that...but I couldn't resist, it just seemed so right (Jameka thinks Dick is the Devil)
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Jbw
Member
08-14-2006
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 8:40 pm
-If Eric wins HOH, one of them is gone for sure (he'll nom D/D, and POV can save one of them-but Eric breaks a 1-1 tie) Not necessarily true. If Eric wins HOH and puts up D/D and then Zach wins veto. Zach still realizing that if he advances to F2, he has a better chance with the jury versus one of the Donatos than against Jameka. So Zach can take off one of D/D and then the "saved" Donato and Zach can vote out the only replacement veto nominee, Jameka. She goes home 2-0. No tie breaker vote for Eric. Both Donatos advance to F4 without either of them winning HOH or veto. The only sure way that one of Donatos leaves at F5 is if Eric wins HOH and either Jameka or Eric win the veto. -and all this now is basically endgame-D/D have pretty much determined the only way one of them wins is if they're both in the final 2, so one of them will have to win every HOH and POV from here on out. They don't need to win every HOH and POV to have a F2 of D&D. See the above example how then can both stay to F4 without winning either the HOH or veto at F5. D/D also don't have to win HOH at F4 to assure both move on the F3. Also winning HOH at F4 only means the HOH winner is safe. The real power at F4 is winning the veto competition. Let's say for illustration purposes, Jameka's gone at F5, leaving a F4 of Dani, Dick, Zach and Eric. Zach wins F4 HOH competition and decides to put us D&D to finally break up the pair. However his plan is foiled as Dani wins veto competition and Zach must then put Eric on the block to replace Dani. Dani has the only vote and evicts Eric. leaving a F3 of Zach, Dani, and Dick. At F3, one of the remaining Donatoes must win the HOH competition and evict Zach, leaving a F2 of Dick and Dani. So it's possible to have a F2 of D/D with them winning neither HOH or veto at F5, and losing HOH at F4. A long shot but possible.
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 8:49 pm
If Jameka doesn't take Dick's proposed deal, are they going to vote her out? Because I don't think she'll do it.
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Jbw
Member
08-14-2006
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 8:59 pm
Carrie92 Sounds like they're voting out Jessica either way. They're trying to get a "deal" out of Jameka to cover themselves if something goes wrong at either the F5 HOH or the F5 veto. If Jameka refuses, the plan is still for Jessica to leave. They'd rather face Eric alone in the next HOH competition instead of facing both Eric & Jess. Why makes the odds even, when your can have a 2-1 advantage? Smart move. Jameka stays unless she does something dumb in the next three days or the producers work their magic in the DR to have the showmance continue for another round.
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Ark
Member
07-10-2001
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 9:01 pm
I don't think she'll take the deal either. I'm also wondering who they will vote out if she doesn't.
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 9:17 pm
Well then, GO PRODUCERS! I don't want Jess to leave... 
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Neosporen
Member
08-18-2005
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 12:41 am
As someone said in another thread, Jameka will not only throw Eric under the bus, she will get in the bus and drive it back and forth over top of him. I am 99.9% certain she will take the deal to keep herself alive another week...
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 1:04 am
earlier this evening I cracked right up. jameka is in the bathroom shaving her legs and I guess singing in her mind. Then one line slipped out..."YOu gotta know when to hold em" I never took jameka as a Kenny Rodgers fan but that song really is applicable at this time LOL
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Llb
Member
08-22-2007
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 1:05 am
Sun - please do not mention singers or their songs or you will be vortexed. -signed, DR
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 3:43 am
But will we even see any of this? If they do it right before the live show, we might already be blocked out and not even know what happened!!
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Onlymytulips
Member
07-17-2005
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 3:47 am
I can see Jameka saying "something is just not right" when/if Dick offers her the "deal".
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 5:14 am
should be during the live show
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