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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Will Dick try at all to win Part 2?: Archive through September 13, 2007 users admin

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Katidyd
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Katidyd a private message Print Post    
Well that is what he has said - possibly to Jameka? He's a thinker though. He might think better of it when he figures out who all hates Dick in the jury house.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Anyone heard why Dick won? It would have seemed logical to let Dani win as she's more likely to beat Zach in the last HoH comp. Did they seem upset afterwards or did it look like they planned it?

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
Dick knows that if Danielle wins the whole thing that Danielle won't share her winnings...like he said he would with her....

He knew he had to win....He may love Danielle, but he doesn't trust her, and rightly so...

Fieryfurnace
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07-05-2006

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 10:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fieryfurnace a private message Print Post    
I don't think Dani is that good with Q & A's. Dick won HOH twice with Q&A's. Dani never won a Q&A, has she?

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 10:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
you know, I thought it was the plan to let Dani win.

Strange.

Maybe this comp was done in two different rooms so they couldnt throw it??

Donut
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07-31-2001

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 11:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Donut a private message Print Post    
i wondered why he won too, and saw at jokers that they decided to both go for it, that they couldnt see each other so couldnt tell, and also that it may have been discussed ( or maybe it was just thought by posters as opposed to said by D/D, that Dick would do better with HG personal thoughts because he hung out with them more, while Dani isolated herself and didnt get to know them as well, so he could actually fare better in part 3

Blowtorch
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07-27-2005

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 11:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Blowtorch a private message Print Post    
I think Dani threw it. She was studying the memory wall last night for quite a while. It appeared she was counting votes. I immediately come to the conclusion she was worried about beating her dad in the final two.

Let me see if I can articulate my thinking.

She thinks she will be up against either her Dad or Zach in the final two.

She knows her Dad will take her to the final two. And Zach has said he's taking her. Those are the only two possible reasons to count votes. The third option leaves her out of the final two and with no reason to count votes.

(It's possible she could have been counting votes to see who would win between her Dad and Zach, but there's no way I believe that. She wouldn't do that until she's been eliminated, unless she was talking to her Dad about it.)

So, my reasonable conclusion was she counting votes to see how she would fair against both.

If it's set in stone that Zach will take her, and her and Dick will take each other, why spend time counting votes? In that case what will be will be.

However, if she thinks her chances are better against Zach, there is something she can do. That's lose to Dick in the second competition.

That way if Zach beats her Dad and evicts him, her chances of winning the game increase. If her Dad beats Zach then she's still in the final two.

Now today I learn Dick did beat her. So now I'm convinced she threw it unless I see Dick just got a lucky win. But until I see the competition with my own two eyes, I'm convinced she threw it.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 11:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Dick knows that if Danielle wins the whole thing that Danielle won't share her winnings...like he said he would with her....

He knew he had to win....He may love Danielle, but he doesn't trust her, and rightly so...


That makes sense, Caycaye; however, if that's so, what was all the horrible behavior on the part of Dick earlier in the game because he said he wanted his little girl to stay in the game? I'm getting the feeling he really wants to win, but wants it to appear that he wants her to win. He will be surprised if Zach wins the next comp and announces he's taking Dani. The Donatos figure if worst case scenario, Dick will go and win for the D's. Not going to happen the way they think.

Streetsmart
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08-06-2006

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 3:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Streetsmart a private message Print Post    
LOL Dani is the better competitor.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 3:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I'm thinking Dick tried to throw it, but ended up wining in spite of himself.

Remember Drew? He tried SO HARD to lose because he knew that Diane or Cowboy would take him to the final 2, and he didn't want to be the one to evict Diane.

Problem was, despite his efforts to the contrary, he won and ended up evicting Diane!

I thought I remember Drew saying he just answered all the questions with the least likely answer...

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
Dani would not Throw it. Her Dad mentioned to her about throwing the first part and she said No she would not! She has never thrown a challenge and wasn't going to start it's just not in her to throw a comp. They both agreed to go for it and do the best they could! And yes I heard them say that

Onlymytulips
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07-17-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlymytulips a private message Print Post    
Dani and Dick talked last night and mentioned that they had to dive into a tank for the puzzle pieces. She had trouble with it.
The way she sulked afterwards makes me wonder if they did make a plan for her to win.
They way Dick flung his key as he stepped down from comp 1 made me think he wanted to win at least one of the first two comps to compete in the final.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Dani said she would not throw a competition. That's why I like these two, they play to win. It makes me mad when hgs throw competitions and then suck up to the hoh to keep them.

Dke1212
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07-13-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dke1212 a private message Print Post    
I think Dick will do better in a Q&A. He has talked to more people. I hope so anyway.

ETA I'm talking in the final tonight..Thursday.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Cricket, that was a different situation. They were up against each other for eviction earlier in the game with a long time left to go. He was going to sacrifice himself because he thought she had a better chance of making it to the end than he did.

This time they were competing against each other for a chance to compete in the final comp, but it was not an elimination for either one, just a chance to compete. I think he thinks he has just as good a chance to win the final comp as she does. And he knows that if he beats Zach, he can take Dani, but if Zach wins, one of them will still go.

And I think he feels Zach will take him. At this point I think Dick feels he has just as much right to go for the big prize as Dani does and I agree with him. Why should he step aside for her at this point?

Dick acts like he is convinced that he or Dani can beat Zach in F2, but I am not so sure. They are basing their belief on the fact that Zach was not aligned with any of them and that he was a "floater." But he has definitely stepped up and won when he needed to. His HOHs will be comparable to either of them. Sure, Dani has won more POVs than he has, but then she was on the block and needed to win. He was not.

And although he did not make a lot of friends in the house, he did not really make enemies either. And he made peace with Zameka. When they have their discussion before voting, I think she would be a strong advocate for him. If Dick throws a lot of verbal garbage at him, the rest of them should recognize it for what it is, since he threw the same kind of stuff at every one of them.

I really think many of the people in the house will be looking for a reason to NOT vote for a Danato. They can count just like the rest of us and they should see that Zach won his competitions in a period when no one was throwing them, He had to earn every one of them. I think if Zach makes F2, he has a good shot.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gina8642 a private message Print Post    
Wouldn't we have heard about it if that was the set plan?? We sure heard plenty about them planning to vote out Jessica. Or, them planning to threaten Jameka at the last moment.

I think they both decided to go for it. They both would be good in Part 3. No cost to trying to win either way.

Diving under water can be hard. I'm actually very good at holding my breath but I can't do deep water well due to the pressure on my ears. Also, if you have crummy goggles you are SOL.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Zach is good at physical tasks. This last part is Dani's forte. I think Dick has had relationships with all of the jury that Zach has not, so my guess is that Dick will fare better. Anything can happen though.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gina8642 a private message Print Post    
I think one reason Zach would have a hard time with the jury is Eric. I believe Eric will be given his last AP challenge to try to convince the jury to vote for AC. I highly doubt that will be Zach.

Eric has shown himself repeatedly to be very, very good at convincing people. I think there's a very good argument for a Donato to win. (They won a lot, they were in on all the strategy, they didn't float, etc.) The jury will not know that Dick was saved by AP until after the final vote (I think). So that, won't be held against him.

It's going to be very, very hard for Zach to win, even if he does go up against Dick. And, Zach has said he'd take Dani over Dick to F2. That will be even tougher.

I'm not saying Zach cannot win, but this isn't "in the bag" for him by a LONG SHOT!!!!

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Yes, Dick has had relationships with a lot of the jury where Zach has not, but they are BAD relationships. I can't see Jen or Dustin getting over the things Dick said quick enough to vote for him. It's hard to tell about Jessica and Eric, but I don't think any of the ones that were on the receiving end of Dick's rants will vote for him. I wouldn't. Part of the game is winning comps, but the other part is not alienating the jury members. Dick did the first but failed miserably at the second. I'm glad he won the second part though, I like him better for not throwing it to Dani.

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Doh, forgot about AP of course he'll get Eric's vote, but still not sure that Amber, Dustin, and Jen could ever be persuaded to vote for Dick. I think a lot of Eric's fast-talking worked because he convinced people it was better for THEM to vote his way. These guys have nothing to gain by voting for Dick and this is their only chance ever to show him what they think of how he treated them. Not sure Eric's slick talk can work on those three. It might work on Jameka and Jessica though.

Tera
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08-10-2000

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tera a private message Print Post    
Last night I listened briefly to Dick and Dani drill each other about the house guests. Seems like they may not know as much as they think they do. They couldn't remember Jessica's brother's name. They hardly knew anything about Jen and a few other things. They seemed a little worried when they realized all that they should but didn't know.

Dke1212
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07-13-2005

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 7:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dke1212 a private message Print Post    
I can understand Jen voting personally, but wouldn't be surprised if she didn't. The others, I hope would look at the game. Like Zach said in his nom speech, Dick and Daniele have dominated the game. He didn't like Dicks tactics, but they work, he said. One of them (Donatos) do deserve to win this. IMO

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I'll vote for Zack as many times as I can in AP. I don't want Dick to win.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 7:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gina8642 a private message Print Post    
A very important part of the game has always been to not alienate the jury. Dick hasn't done a good job there. I think Dani has really tried. She's kept most of her snarkyness and whining away from them toward the end. Acting all nice. I also don't think the jury knows how much she's encouraged her dad to attack people.

So, Dani's got a much better chance than Dick. She HAS dominated in comps AND (at least tried) not to alienate the jury.

Zach on the other hand played low in the beginning. He's tried to suck up to the jury, but just doesn't have the people skills for it to come off as sincere (sometimes even when he is being sincere.)

I don't think it's fair to say someone should win just because they won a lot of competitions. There's a lot more to this game than that. If that's all it was, then there should not be a jury vote. They should just count up comps won at the end and give the grand prize to that person.

Smrtass
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09-11-2000

Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smrtass a private message Print Post    
Good points, Gina.

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If Eric doesn't get extra pay to convince them to vote for America's Choice, maybe he won't campaign. His task may simply be to vote.