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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:12 pm
Mssas late last night in their after midnight fight, it became clear that Daniele does NOT have a great relationship with her grandmother. Both she and Dick brought this out. She is not speaking to any members of her family, including a grandfather, her mother, brother and a bunch of other relatives.
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:26 pm
It's all about Danielle in that house, and I have a feeling it works that way outside the house too just by the disrespect she has shown her boyfriend. Hopefully as she grows up she'll realize that everything can't be the way SHE wants it. Until she gets there Dick has no hope of even trying to build a relationship with her, and I feel he really wants one.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:30 pm
I can't watch the clips now, but did Dani really say "I didn't ask to be born"?
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:31 pm
Brenda yes she did
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Wavelength
Member
07-25-2007
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:31 pm
I think that BB really did Dick and Danielle a great disservise by putting them in the house together. It's one thing if it is your ex-friend or ex-boyfriend. Family issues are so fragile and should never have to be talked about in front of a couple of people much less a national TV audience. I really don't like either of them but still feel bad for them. It really ruins both of their games which Danielle especially hates.
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:32 pm
I just watched the youtube also. This may sound really strange but this entire season I have felt that Dick has been posturing for the cameras every time he as talked to or about Dani. It is as if he is documenting his attempt to be a good father. She has sad from day one that she would not discuss this here (on the show) where cameras could pick it up. Yet he continues to follow her around and suggest councilling, or talks to the camera how he is trying but she is difficult, etc. When Dick leaves he can point to the tape and show all his friends and the world how hard he tried and how difficult Dani is and Dani for her part will not discuss this on TV. It is too deep for her and she is not going to share this with Joe Public. She is very conscience about it.
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Wavelength
Member
07-25-2007
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:36 pm
I agree totally Missyb. I wouldn't even put it past him to work up a real good crying jag to try to sway people into thinking he is such a caring person who is just put down constantly. He has a motive for everything he does.
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Ivory_mist
Member
08-31-2005
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:37 pm
I think Dick wants to talk about the past...and Daniele does not want the world to know....she does not want to talk about it on the show...and Dick keeps bugging her about it...and it is getting on her nerves...she is not ready to discuss it NOW...but maybe after the show is over! I would not want my problems discussed all over the internet either.
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:40 pm
And, the more he airs it out there the more frussssssssssssssstrating it gets because he isn't listennnnnnning to her !!! Not here Pops!! But his side is aired loud and clear (and his version).Her ability to not blurt out something she his holding on to is quite strong.
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Ivory_mist
Member
08-31-2005
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:42 pm
sorry Missyb...my post is similar to yours...I read yours after I wrote mine
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:43 pm
Thanks Loppes. the "I didn't ask to be born" statement speaks volumes to me about Dani's lack of maturity. She's almost 21 and still spouting this line? Get over yourself girl! This is what 14 and 16 year olds say. I think she really has a lot of growing up to do. I think it would do her a world of good to get into counseling solo before she would try anything with her dad.
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Ivory_mist
Member
08-31-2005
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:46 pm
I think she really has a lot of growing up to do. and one wonders also....WHEN WILL DICK EVER GROW UP...he still acts like a childhood bully.
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:48 pm
No prob Ivory, I thought they worked well together !
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:48 pm
but what will happen if she blurts out one of her dad's buddies molested her or something. When Dani says Horrible, Horrible things have happened, I believe her. I remember the first time dick started his "dad of the year attempt" and she curled up crying in almost a fetal position. Serious trauma there. From whom? dont know. Does she trust her dad? nope. Did she want to be there as a child? sure doesnt sound like it. Missyb and wavelength. the first night of feeds Dick was outside alone for hours talking to the cameras. Eventually he was gentling crying on the couch....but it took HOURS and hours to get to that state. I was left with a feeling that it was all for the internet cameras and to give the DR a good TV moment. a lot of the first two show DR with Dick was from that night at 4am approx. Dick has 'played' to the cameras since day one. even last night he was saying stuff about DANI to the cameras outside. Inside doing dishes and putting stuff away he ws swearing and cursing jen. it is for the cameras. I dont believe that he runs around talking to himself outside of the house.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:50 pm
i took the I didnt ask to be born comment as an awknowledgement to what was going on when her mom was pregnant. Dick and Dani's mom were already separated when Dani's mom was pregnant. Dani was not even born in a happy marriage. I can imagine the bickering and fighting for her custody may have been crazy thru her whole young life.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:50 pm
Daniele uses the word "horrible" OFTEN in normal conversation. Just sayin'
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:56 pm
That's exactly what I am talking about.I remember those early morning chats. They were amusing because we could hear some of his game plans and thoughts but the stuff about Dani was too contrived so the outside would see him as a father there to make amends. Winning the POV and getting to make a grand speech. Perfect ! I'll bet he'll ask the producers for the tape of him giving the entire speech when he finds out the tear jerking part did not make the air. I do not want to imply that he is does not want to make the effort to regain a relationship. I believe he sincerely does. Just that he is using the show to further his cause and itis backfiring a bit.
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Wavelength
Member
07-25-2007
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:04 pm
He doesn't seem to be self aware at all. She is more mature than he is. And he came on the show to be some kind of hero to his "peeps" and all of a sudden there is his daughter. I think he is trying to forge a new fantastic relationship with her so he can get to the end with her and be famous. I really think that is how egocentric he is. It's awful to say but I believe it.
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Napa1526
Member
07-14-2007
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:05 pm
I don't see it that way at all. Dick is a bully...no doubt about that. Every bully I have ever seen or come in contact with finds it VERY difficult to show emotion. Cameras or no cameras Dick's tears were real. I personally don't think he even thought about the cameras...hence covering his face with his hands and blanket. I don't know what happened to Danielle, nor is it anybody's business, but I think she has issues of her own which have NOTHING to do with her father. That's obvious by her other relationships. EVERY member of her family cannot be to blame and her be the innocent victim of everyone's wrath. I don't buy it. I don't doubt there has been a problem...I just don't think she is exactly easy to get along with.
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Ivory_mist
Member
08-31-2005
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:07 pm
Can you imagine what it must have been like for Dani's mother to give her up....I heard there were many custody battles. Also if it is true that Dick had been up for spousal battery...and traumatic injury...that might have had a bad effect on Dani...she would have been 9 years old then!
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:08 pm
she doesn't speak to her brother because he refused to loan her some nintendo games. he knew she would never return them, so he said no. she has not returned phone calls or emails since. dick is no father of the year, but a lot of problems in the relationship are with dani too.
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:08 pm
BB may be doing a disservice to them but they both wanted to be on this show, weren't they finalists for season 5 or 6? I don't believe they didn't know the other was going to be there and really if I thought it was going to traumatize me I would have left, money or no money.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:09 pm
dani mom left, didn't fight for custody! they never would have allowed dick in the house if he had been arrested for battery, never. and it would have been public on the smoking gun website day 1 of the show.
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:13 pm
Their relationship? COMPLEX. I can't possibly know enough about them or their history to make judgments or assessments, honestly. None of are perfect. We all have our shortfalls. I sure know that my family is imperfect and I would really hate to be scrutinized this much!
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:15 pm
Dick and her mother had split up before Daniele was born. The mother did not want Daniele OR her son. Dick tried to keep and raise the kids, but he felt they would be better with his mother because of his lifestyle. And by lifestyle, I mean late-night rock-and-rolling. There has never been any hint whatsoever that Dick assaulted anyone. ETA: They split up before she discovered she was pregnant with Daniele.
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