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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 4:50 pm
Lindaceles and Sassynegal reading your post's and some of the others saved me from trying to put into words what you all said way better! Weather people like it or not they made it to the final 2 and deserve it! So Kudo's to them!
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 6:36 pm
Throw these two out of the house!! I'm so disgusted with them and tonight's show reminded me why I disliked them so much!!
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Govols
Member
07-19-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 9:12 pm
I am so tired of hearing the AP thing is the only reason Dick stayed in the game. For pity's sack, that was only 1 week out of the whole game. If, if, if...could have changed anyone's game if only....
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:25 am
I agree. I think Kaysar in BB6 was saved by America's Choice more than Dick was and we all saw how that wasn't enough to even help him make the jury.
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 4:01 am
They are both in the final two and anyone that makes it that far is deserving in my opinion. Debating who carried whom to the end is also a moot point considering that America had a hand in every eviction. Strategy was not that important this season,ratings are what was the driving force this season.Good edits is what kept certain people in the game and got certain people out. There really was no game this year just a show and there is a difference.
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Cheeky00
Member
07-07-2005
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 5:15 am
I think it's the nature of this game for many people to be unhappy with the final two. Our emotions move back and forth depending on who the underdogs are. I imagine if the final two had been eric and jameka, or amber and dustin, or jen and zach or any combination of the hgs many of us would still be unhappy with the final two. A lot, including myself, wanted zach to take the last competition to break them up but that's more of a yeah, go underdog. He hasn't had much support on this board the whole season. If the final three had been jessica, dick and zach perhaps people would have been rooting for jessica as she would be seen as the underdog in that situation and if she'd lost the final two would have been disappointing to many. Like I said, it's the nature of this game.
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Tvjunkie64
Member
09-04-2007
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 6:05 am
They had a successful alliance that was never broke up - that is huge - especially considering everyone knew that dad and daughter weren't going to turn on each other. I am sure all the houseguests wish they got a chance to come in and play with a parent or their child. Talk about someone having your back - what a perfect situation. I dislike both of them immensley, but I think of the 2 - Dick should win. Dani hanging upside down - didn't even last 2 hours and she was GIVEN that HOH by Kail.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 7:03 am
Actually, I think their alliance was a wee bit one-sided. Dick would do anything to ensure Dani's safety, but I'm not so sure she would've reciprocated. And they DID enter the house as enemies. As I've said all along, the other two enemy couples could've put all behind them and worked as a team. Instead, the two who were originally in the house were ousted one-two. Dick and Daniele actually had giant targets on their back because of their presumed alliance, yet they are in the final two. Because of that, because they outlasted, outplayed, and outwitted every other houseguest, they both deserve to be in F2.
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Marksman
Member
05-04-2007
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 7:19 am
I thought Dani was deserving, never thought Dick was and still don't. He only made it where he did by happenstance. After watching that horrible clip show last night, though, I realize maybe Danielle did not really deeserve it either. I would have a hard time not giving it to her because of all the competition wins, but outside of those, she did little, and actually did many things that should be considered negatives when determining worthiness.
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Cousin_jake
Member
07-04-2002
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 8:49 am
Sure they both deserve to be there . Which of the other 12 HGs is more deserving? The ones that were evicted before jury - no. Jameka? Amber? Dustin? Jessica? - no. Zach? - Maybe, Eric? - maybe, but neither Eric or Zach is more deserving than D & D as far as I'm concerned. They had the right combination of strategy, comp wins and luck to get there (as does every final 2 since BB began) so, of course they're deserving. Jessie
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 2:37 pm
Outlasted,outwitted,and outplayed is a real stretch for those two to claim,bottom line they are still there that is all.Anyone left in the house at the end deserves to be there whether they fought to stay or whether they were helped by America via AP. I have never believed they were enemies in the same sense that Joe/Dustin and Jessica/Carol were. Anyone with a family knows that no matter what the family issues are they will stick together to fight an outsider.
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Cillysue2
Member
05-02-2003
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 2:52 pm
I think what it boils down to is that the jury people except for maybe the last 2 who went in played a stupid game. They should have gotten rid of Dick when they had the chance. This happens every year and it ends up the same every year. Kaysar was the only one who tried to play the game the way it should have been played - with intelligence. But we all know where that got him. And maybe this is the way to play the game, but CBS could sure make the last week a little more entertaining for US!!!!!
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Nycsoho
Member
08-11-2007
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:02 pm
The Donatos kicked everyones ass. Of course they deserve F2.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:08 pm
Kicked everyone's ass? Really? According to them, it was everyone else's fault that people were evicted. If I remember correctly, until the end at least, evictions weren't exactly going their way. Besides, it's easy to kick ass when you've got AP and Allison lining them up for ya. Although, I'm sure neither will admit they had any help. It was soooooooooo harrrrrrrrrrrrrd.
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Nycsoho
Member
08-11-2007
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:15 pm
Yes it was everyone else's fault they got evicted. They could have banded together and got the Donatos out but they didn't. That's not the Donatos fault. They came in to kick ass and win and that's exactly what happened.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:17 pm
yep... i hate the d&d ending but i blame the others for soooo many bad moves.
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Ambrsct
Member
08-22-2007
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:33 pm
absolutely no one else deserves being the F2 more than the Donatos. they played the BEST game... hands down!
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:47 pm
and Kail didn't give that HOH to Dani, please, Kail only made that deal because she couldn't hold on any longer.
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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:49 pm
LOL I so have to laugh! Oh my gosh They had such an advantage! thats why the Twins Won** NOT** Thats why Cowboy and Nickomis Won **NOT** LOL Jani,Kaysar,Howie James etc all from the same season! Unfair? NO it didnt help them win and like it was pointed out Kaysar couldn't stay in even as well liked as he was, Now Will and Boogie so joined at the Hip! Unfair? No it was the house guests fault they let them get as far as they did. Dick and Dani made it to the final two and love them or hate them Kudo's to them. I'll watch next year again LOL
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:57 pm
That's right Seattlemom. I will watch next year too.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:59 pm
It was fixed! Fixed, I tell ya! I have proof! Okay, maybe I don't, but I like to stir the pot. 
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Cillysue2
Member
05-02-2003
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 8:29 pm
LOL, I'll still watch next year too! An addict is an addict.
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 4:00 am
The fact that they were father and daughter gave them an unbreakable alliance.That was as much as a an advantage as it was a disadvantage.The fact that Eric could not play his own game and America(producers) was involved in the nominations and evictions gave the Donato's the extra advantage that they needed to remain in the game.There were a lot of dumb moves this season but many of those moves would not have been made had the HG's known that one of their own was doing America's(producers) bidding. I will watch next year under two conditions. 1.No one related in the house. 2.No America's(producers)Player
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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 8:02 am
The 2 of them beig there together would have been considered a disadvantage if they hadn't made it to final 2... What I mean to say is if one of them had been voted out early there would have been the same whining that it was unfair but it would have been because they never had a chance being related.... It's a show and they add elements in to make it interesting - it was up to the HGs to break apart the alliance and they never did. Are we forgetting that AP was only ONE vote??
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 8:44 am
Yup Sassy. Blame the other HGs because they didn't get either one out when they had an opportunity. And since both of 'em were nominated three times, together, they had three chances!! Hmm... strike three and you're out? (Evicted!) 
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 10:24 am
You have to remember that the twins were not in the house together from the beginning of the season. Essentially there was only one of them. And once the 'Twist' was revealed, they were targets. And I would not exactly call Nakomis and Cowboy a family unit. They had never heard of each other before they got into the house. They had no emotional ties to or any trust in each other. No matter how estranged Dick and Dani might have been, they were closer than Nak and Cowboy. And just knowing each other doesn't do it either. None of them had the deep commitment that come from a family connection. Dick and Dani had no doubt that they could trust each other. That in itself was a plus. And no, I don't think either of them would have won without the other. Not saying it was wrong to put them in together, but I for one would be happier if they would just get some people who do not know each other, or anyone in the industry, and let nature take its course. It seems to me that BB has lost faith in its product and has to keep tweaking it. I think the basic premis is good enough without the twists. Let the twist be s new kind of competition or a change in how the voting is done or something like that. Quit trying to "set up" storylines.
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 10:32 am
They only had an advantage because they played a great game together (and no one -- except Jen) saw how necessary it was to break them up. Dick's play was brilliant in that he took the target off Dani's back (to some degree) by making himself so hated. However, ironically (and oh so beautifully) this "hate" is the reason they were keeping him in. Dani would have gone much sooner, but she kept winning HOHs and Vetos. The AP was only ONE vote. Eric campaigned for Dick because he wanted to win money (and I think he saw it might also be advantageous to partner with D&D). Eric did not really have to campaign so hard OR make a deal with Dick.
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Nycsoho
Member
08-11-2007
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:31 am
I think you're right Jeanne. Boy it sure is different during the day here. Theres a lot of anger late at night. Dani won a lot too, she didn't just sit and whine. She kept whining and winnng. lol. Congradulations to the Donatos.
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:38 am
Yes, she sure did. It's pretty amazing that they won .. what, 5 HOHs and 6 Vetos between them? That rocks!
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Meggieprice
Member
07-09-2001
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:48 am
I totally agree that they both deserve F2. They played an amazing gamne together. I have a thread myself wherein I was shocked to come to my own aha moment that Daniele was not playing for both of them so much as DIck was but on reflection I have reminded myself she is barely 21 and I will cut her a lot of slack. This is my favorite F2 since the first few years.
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Nycsoho
Member
08-11-2007
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:49 am
Me too Meggie
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Ddr
Member
08-19-2001
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 12:38 pm
Dani certainly does deserve to be in Final 2, with or without Dick. She played an excellent game even with Dick spilling all her game moves to everyone who would listen.
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Caprica
Member
02-10-2007
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 2:25 pm
AP was only one vote but don't forget he did more than vote while following America's orders. When ever Eric tried to go against AC he was punished with strange votes and tasks that hurt his alliances. I not taking all the credit from D/D but IMO Eric/America/Producers had a whole lot to do with determining who stayed and who went. Even Eric said in his exit interview that the game would have been alot different had he been in control of his moves and votes. Most of the other house guests were so clueless to what was going on Dick and Eric were running the house the entire time.
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