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Dogmommy
Member
09-10-2005
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 11:03 pm
Dick isn't the only person who smoked in the house this year, and yet he's the one she targeted. She started eating when Dick was given his cigarettes back. In my opinion, she shouldn't go to sequester nor get a vote. It should be the last person voted out before sequester.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 11:17 pm
and here is the best video: http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=355175
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 12:02 am
Cricket blowing smoke is not against the law in CA however physically attacking someone and making contact IS.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 12:12 am
in this instance Jen could claim she felt physically threatened by Dick's words and previous actions. Leaning into her the way he did was very threatening. Her initial swing of the arm would be taken as selfdefence. However, Spunky's video shows clearly Dick's intent to injure.
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Chieko
Member
11-20-2003
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 12:14 am
Kalekona, And what about physically assaulting someone by pouring something on their head? Would that be against the law in CA?
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Bicbicz911
Member
08-20-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 12:45 am
Pouring a drink over someone's head isn't assault. Ask a police officer, a district attorney, or a judge. It would be thrown out of court. If it had been hot tea and Jen had been burned, she could have cried assault. Since Jen was clearly the physical aggressor in the ruckus (not saying Dick wasn't exhibiting provoking behavior by blowing smoke, cuz he was) she caused the burns to her arm/hand. The tea thing has been beat to death on these threads (it was rude), and I'm sure that if CBS, Big Brother, or the local law enforcement officials saw anything illegal, Mr. Donato would have been removed from the house by now.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:04 am
So we are saying that a guy could walk up to a defenseless woman (or man for that matter) any time he felt like it, curse obscenely at her and pour something over her head and there would be no charges and nothing would happen? Amazing.
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Poppy
Member
07-21-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:11 am
Yup, Jimmer, that's what the law says. To assault someone is to cause them bodily harm. Pouring tea over someone's head doesn't harm them. Nor does cursing obscenely at them. Not saying I agree with any one it, it's just the way the law works. And there is no way on earth that any lawyer would be able to sue Dick and win. I can guarantee you that the contracts these people sign have been gone over by about 100 attorneys for the network and that the HGs are made completely aware of ALL of the things that could potentially happen in the house. They would be required to sign a waiver of liability. Insofar as the cigarette fight, Jen was the aggressor (IMHO) and I didn't see Dick "kicking" her violently - I saw his moves as defensive. Whether he moved his cigarette to where her hand was going to be, she was the one who started it. Now, if they had that fight out in the real world on a street or anywhere else, they probably both would have been charged with assault or domestic violence. Just info for what it's worth.
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Sincebb1
Member
08-22-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:27 am
My hubby is a police officer and pouring tea on someone's head is indeed considered assault and he could certainly arrest you for it. That said, I am sure that one must sign away many rights when entering the BB house. I am sure that lawyers at that level can twist anything if they want to, to their advantage and there would be no chance of a suit. Nor would anyone want to spend the time and money doing so. Most HGs get out of the house and want to forget they were every there! LOL!
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:33 am
i dont know about that. didnt ?christa? get some kind of settlement? and it has always been my contention that there are certain rights you cannot sign away. for example certain kinds of abuse. you cannot not prosecute as the law can go around you. at least what i remember when i lived in nj. has GAL weighed in on this?
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:37 am
Krista's lawsuit was dropped Gidget. Terms of dropping it were never disclosed.
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Sincebb1
Member
08-22-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:38 am
Gid all I know is what a police officer could do...I am saying that who knows what the poor HGs are required to sign. They may wave using outside lawyers etc. I am not in any way supporting the loss of rights for HGs. I am not aware of the lawsuit with Krista. Do you know what it was in regards to?
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Merrysea
Member
08-13-2004
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:43 am
In Krista's case, it was someone holding a knife to her throat (although they were both laughing about it at the time). That's a bit more serious than a little cold tea on the head.
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Sincebb1
Member
08-22-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:47 am
Most certainly. There are many levels of assault
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Sammy
Member
08-21-2007
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 8:59 am
in Kristas case weren't they both very drunk as well? didn't someone have to point out to her what happened?????? I do think that they are aware of the boundries that dick has crossed many times over and Julie herself in each interview has questioned them to the departing guest....I don't blame jen at all.--if it was attention oh well...I do know that dick would truly lose it if someone even did anythng remotely similar to his daughter...but that I guess would be different. I do hope that someone brings forth some of the comments Eric has made about dani and dick to light and then see where dick really hits bottom....I think it is a potential bomb waiting to go off as for the smoking area--they should have placed it in the most furtest corner of the back yard like in real California style...most smoking areas are very hard to find and not easy assessable to non smokers...again I am one of the smokers and find that he was replusive in how he blew the smoke ---- he should get punished by somethin mroe than a warning....those never do anything except cause humor among the ranks....
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:08 am
In Krista's case, it was someone holding a knife to her throat (although they were both laughing about it at the time). That's a bit more serious than a little cold tea on the head. Actually I think the opposite. There were both laughing and joking. It was completely done in jest (bad taste, but zero malice) and was so not a big deal that even Krista couldn't even figure out what Justin did to get thrown off until someone sent a banner telling her. Mind you I like Dick, but pouring tea on Jen's head was absolutely crossing the line into physical contact and he should have been penalized for it. Not thrown out but penalty nommed. In regard for the cigarette burning. Jen was grabbing the cigarette out of his hand and then claiming he burned her. That is such a joke. Stop grabbing it Jen! Besides when she went to the bathroom after with Jameka her hand was not even burned she just has black ash on her hand.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:17 am
I understand that they probably sign a pretty all-inclusive contract that gives up a lot of their normal rights when they enter the house. So obviously BB is not reality. However, what amazes me is the contention that outside of the house, someone could randomly pick out some stranger, curse at her and dump cold liquid over her head and not be arrested and charged?
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Sincebb1
Member
08-22-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:18 am
I must ammend...where I have written "assault" insert "battery". That is the proper term for it.
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Sincebb1
Member
08-22-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:20 am
Jimmer I agree. Unfortunately they know not what they speak.....
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:27 am
would someone actually have someone arrested for having had tea poured on their head? come on, our men in blue have much more important things to do with their time.
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Jbfrommi
Member
07-24-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:30 am
Jimmer, maybe Jen would be arrested for indecent exposure, too?
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Nutsy
Member
08-14-2001
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:31 am
not to mention tying up the legal system with something so dumb. I've thrown a drink at someone when they've insulted me or a friend of mine ... I was a lot younger then, but certainly I think there are many people out there who've done something like that in a moment of frustration. I can't imagine the justice system would have the time of day for that.
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Sincebb1
Member
08-22-2005
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:33 am
The law is the law and people were saying it was not an offense. It is. As it is to spit on someone...same thing. Whether or not someone would do it, or you think it is silly, who knows, but that was not the question.
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Cndeariso
Member
06-28-2004
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:37 am
i agree with both of you, Zmom & Sincebb1. the men in blue do have more important things to do but it is still a crime. and, since most folks know the cops aren't going to bother them, they get away with it.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 9:39 am
LOL – I'm not talking about getting into a fight with someone in a bar and throwing a drink at her (as if that would make it better). I'm talking about the idea of randomly cursing at someone and dumping stuff over her head. And then moving on to the next person who comes along. People think that the Police would let someone wander around and do that?
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