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Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 10:30 am
sorry i'm not a very elegant spokesman and can't always clearly say what i feel in my heart... it's sort of like your spirit or soul will be eternal because of how it developed spiritually.. and because you have the free will to open it to learning and developing.. you don't have eternal life because you racked up a bunch of good acts (you lived "good") or because you give money to charity etc...
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 10:48 am
I quote my father a lot, but he was such a student of the Bible and so lived what he preached that I feel comfortable. He used to say that people were not Christians because they did good works, they did good works because they were Christians.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 10:51 am
faith without works is dead. while you have faith, you are supposed to give glory to God in everything you do. nothing for yourself.
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Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 10:59 am
yes but works for reward don't come from the heart or from faith.. it has to be selfless without return expectation.. and yes your whole life should be a glory to God.. even to leaving your family and loved ones if they don't support that.. leave the dead to tend the dead.. rise and follow me etc..
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:01 am
"Good works" can be done by people of all faiths and those of "no faith." IMO.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:05 am
that's what i was trying to say nick.. also we are not to be looking/asking for treasures on earth, our reward will be eternal life in heaven.
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Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:06 am
of course they can... the comments (mine at least) came from jimmer's question regarding christians and their expectations for rewards and praying for "things"...
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 4:15 pm
Nick I responded to your impassioned comments in this thread: Jamekas Opinion of White People?
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 4:36 pm
Do any of you think Amber would tithe the winning & stipend money to God since she's so into Him right now? Nope, I don't Amber would tithe.
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Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 4:41 pm
thank you mameblanche.. and not to be offensive but i doubt amber knows what tithing is..
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 5:00 pm
I've never quite understood why God would need anyone to tithe anything to him anyway. Is he short of cash? I know that tithing is to support religious organizations spreading the word of God but I wonder why that is necessary. Seriously, that is a bit of a mystery to me.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 5:14 pm
Thanks to all that answered, I was really curious. I'd think tithing helps to pay for the bills that accrue to keep a church up and running, much like our households. You know like electricity, phones, etc., those bills are ridiculously high when it's in supply for all the congregation for multiple hours and multiple days; not to mention ministry and evangelism outreaches. Regarding tithing, the Bible says to do it, so it isn't a subject that I personally dispute.
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Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 5:19 pm
it's also offered to charity.. used in disasters.. used for outreach.. and given to families within the church community that need assistance.. when you are blessed with more than your neighbor you're charged with the responsibility to share... as God will always take care of your needs.. (and don't ask why God didn't just give it to your neighbor... )... charity and tithing is a common theme throughout many different religions.. a rather universal theme..
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 5:22 pm
Exactly! Thanks Nick!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 6:10 pm
The meaning of tithing is to give back to the organization that gives you spiritual education and leading, so that it may continue to lead you and others in the faith. The churches themselves sometimes allocate a portion to charity to fill the needs of the greater community. It's lately become more fashionable to say that one's giving to charity is part of your personal tithe, but that would not be in keeping with the traditional meaning of the word. Of course God doesn't need the money. But of course churches have to pay salaries and utility bills, etc. And old church buildings need lots of upkeep!
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Napa1526
Member
07-14-2007
| Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 7:03 am
Does anyone know if Amber was religious before she came into the house. (Sorry if this has already been covered) I just get the impression this is new to her and it seems that is about all she has in common with her "best friend" Jameka.
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 8:22 pm
I wonder if the praying has stopped in the BB house?
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Cmist
Member
09-20-2005
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:23 pm
I have a good one for all BB believers to remember, especially those who feel they are more worthy than others. "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone" I wish Dick would pull that one out if he makes it to the final 2.
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Beckie03
Member
07-05-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 7:48 pm
I wonder if the praying has stopped in the BB house? I think Amber was the one who was really open about praying...i.e. saying it out loud, constantly doing it. I think Jameka is more reserved...doesn't do it out loud as often.
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Shopstomuch
Member
07-09-2007
| Monday, September 03, 2007 - 8:01 pm
I think prayer and religious beliefs are a personal thing. What has bothered me most about some of this is that certain HG's would pray feverently then stop and follow w/ a string of F bombs and name calling. I just don't get it. Yes, we are born to sin, however how can you sit and pray that devoutly and then immediately stop with some hate filled curse laden rant? I just find it hypocritical. I really really was a fan of Jam's until the night she went off on Dick or Dick went off on her... whichever. When she called his mother names it just really did it for me. I really had upheld her for some reason to a higher standard. Yes, Dick is much much worse (I know that counter-argument is coming) however, he is not putting himself out there as this very religious spiritual person. He put himself out there as Evil. I know all religions are different, however I have listened to Jam discussing hers and the faith... well, the faith she is doesn't believe in cursing, calling names, or actually even drinking and I have seen her do all of those right before and after drinking. yes, I have seen a good side of her too... however, I have seen her do the opposite too. No, I am not perfect, I just did not apply to put myself and my beliefs on a TV show like she did.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 4:50 pm
Jam's comments about Dick's mother were taken out of context IMO. Her initial point was how would he like it if people called his mother the names he so easily lets fly towards others. So, when he called her a b*tch, she said, your mother is a b*tch- trying to make that point. He didn't get it either and yes, he's allowed to call anyone anything and "it's just game". LMAO
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Govols
Member
07-19-2005
| Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 3:47 pm
I saw this in current happenings and I like the view Darclyte mentioned it (hope you don't mind I copied it): Darclyte Member 07-11-2005 Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 3:21 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I always use Jason to compare to Jameka, Kail or anyone from other seasons (like Maggie & Ivette) who try to judge others based upon their faith. I doubt any of them are any more devout than Jason is, yet he never used his beliefs to judge others or threw it in their faces. He had his beliefs, they were what they were, and he left it at that. He also is probably the only person since the game changed with BB2 to play the game as honestly as possible.
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Kirstenk
Member
07-14-2005
| Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 6:35 pm
After tonights show, I only have one question. Who is Jameka? She had me fooled.
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:13 am
Kirstenk, fooled in what way? ****** So Zach has now found religion in the BB house?
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Tracy
Member
07-16-2007
| Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 7:09 am
I used to tithe after taxes because I figured that I was rendering to ceasar and all that. Then someone said that the tithe should come from the First Fruits of your labor. Then I stopped it all together because I figured that if what I was doing was wrong anyway what was the point. Now I give money directly to people who I figure need it.
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