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Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
I have an honest question.

What is Jameka referring to when she says "my God" and "your God"?

I have never heard anyone say "my God" when talking about God. Is she referring to her internal beliefs, her exact religion, or God as in the being of God? Is she trying to mold a God to fit into her beliefs?

Is this normal for certain religions? Without knowing where this comes from it kind of sounds she has a different God or her own personal God and I pretty sure that is not what she means.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
i don't know biloxi, i think everyone has the same god, but choses to worship him in different way.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Usually, when people say "my God" and "your God," they're either being sarcastic or humourous, or using it as a shorthand for "my understanding of God" is different than your understanding.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
Biloxi, I started using "my God" after going through a 12-step program meaning the God of my understanding. In AA, they use the term "higher power" so as not to exclude anyone. Like an atheist or agnostic or Muslim, etc.

Urgrace
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08-19-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Urgrace a private message Print Post    
Some people have a different god. Some people not of faith worship their car or clothes or other earthly thing, therefore it is "their god". My God refers to the omnipotent power of a Heavenly being.

Izzysmydog
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08-13-2007

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Izzysmydog a private message Print Post    
I don't understand why Jameka and Amber do their praying outloud... To me prayer is a personal thing and I know that God can hear my thoughts and I don't need to verbalize them.. To me if feels as if they are doing it outloud so that they get their airtime on the show... They want everyone to feel sorry for them and know that they are so much better than anyone else in the game... It just feels so fake... A truely religious person knows that God can hear thoughts just as well as saying it outloud... Jameka doing her schtick after the Veto when she gave up the 5 HOH's just didn't ring true...

Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 4:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
Thanks all for taking the time to answer me. I found the comments helpful in understanding what she might mean by that phrase.



Lainee
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07-19-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 4:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
I thought Jameka's prayer after the Veto rang true enough! I have no problem with saying my prayers aloud. The Bible even talks about public prayer. It also talks about private prayer.

Veander
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07-02-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Veander a private message Print Post    
God let's babies die, so why in the world would he actively help Jameka in the BB house?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Seriously, that is a very deep question Veander and that sort of a discussion may go beyond BB. If God does directly intervene in life here on Earth, I don't honestly understand why God does or does not do certain things.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
I doubt I would be who I am today, had I not gone thru so much earlier in life. (My response to you Jimmer)

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
That's why babies are dying, Veander, 'cause God's too busy with BB, football, NASCAR, and mostly my hometown NHL team...lol Seriously, I agree with Jimmer, that discussion could go on from now until eternity. There are sure some "why'd you let this happen" questions I have for God when I (hopefully) get to the pearly gates.

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
I just want to ask God where Jimmy Hoffa was, who killed Jonbenet and what happened to Natalee Holloway.
oh and who really was being JFK and RFK murders.

Nutsy
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08-14-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nutsy a private message Print Post    
don't forget Marilyn Monroe Kalekona, I mean really what was up with that?

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
good point Nutsy
And Roswell, can't forget that.

Nutsy
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08-14-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nutsy a private message Print Post    
and why Janelle didn't win. And why Boogie did.

Kalekona
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06-12-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kalekona a private message Print Post    
yeah that one for sure Nutsy.

Nutsy
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08-14-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nutsy a private message Print Post    
Not to mention why I wasn't born a Hilton.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
You all crack me up. In all seriousness, my biggest question for God will be: "What is the point of babies and children suffering?" I will never understand a child suffering from cancer or some other horrible disease because they brought some light to others lives for a short period of time or taught others a lesson. Sorry, babies and kids are innocent and I think grown-ups can learn their lessons in other ways. OK... just so you know.. that's my biggest thing I will never understand about a loving God. :-)

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 10:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
The biggest thing that (at least from what I remember, it's been years) is that God gave us a free will. Unfortunately that free will leads us to do things that we "shouldn't" do...

It reminds me of the movie Bruce Almighty..."Smite me, O Mighty Smiter".

Gemma120in2002
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07-05-2003

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 2:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gemma120in2002 a private message Print Post    
Sometimes things just happen with no rhyme or reason. I think that sometimes the drop of rain falls on the butterfly and the butterfly doesn't pollenate the plant and the plant becomes extinct and the world suddenly doesn't have corn anymore because the mother plant was never propegated and the hybrid can't sustain the genus. That almost happened, but some people found the mother plant growing wild in the southwest and corn was saved. I'm not kidding.

Sometimes things happen through no divine will or intervention. We have a gift that is quite miraculous, and that gift is free will. With free will we are able to make our own decisions and guide our own lives. Unfortunately through a seemingly unrelated series of events, tragedy happens. It can be a chain reaction that happens instantaneously or it can be a chain that takes years, decades, centuries or millenia to complete. The same is true with wonderful occurrances. The difference is that we don't ask how God can let the wonderful things happen.

I am sorry for anyone's loss of a child or a parent. It is one of the most horrible and deeply wounding events a person can ever face. Nothing seems right or safe or secure or whole ever again.

Sometimes someone answers the phone when driving, or reaches for the food on the passenger seat, and loses attention to the road and a couple of kids on the sidewalk get run over by a SUV. The driver didn't mean to do it, the kids weren't doing anything wrong by being in that place at that time, and I don't think God was playing any kind of supernatural video game and screwed up and didn't save the kids in time. Sometimes things just happen and it's not winning the lottery.

We look for deeper meaning in why the most profoundly horrible things happen in our lives, and unfortunately there is no message to be found unless it leads you to self-enlightenment.

I come from the perspective that God is love. He's not an imp waiting to stick it to us when we least expect it. Sometimes a person forgets to wash his or her hands well enough and then fixes food for a child and the child gets sick and dies. The bacteria or virus isn't evil, it's just a living organism trying to stay alive. The person who fixed the food isn't evil, just sloppy. All are innocent. If an adult had eaten the same food, his or her immune system might have been able to handle the problem and nobody gets hurt. Unfortunately that isn't the way it goes sometimes.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 3:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
Watching2
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07-07-2001

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:36 pm

You all crack me up. In all seriousness, my biggest question for God will be: "What is the point of babies and children suffering?" I will never understand a child suffering from cancer or some other horrible disease because they brought some light to others lives for a short period of time or taught others a lesson. Sorry, babies and kids are innocent and I think grown-ups can learn their lessons in other ways. OK... just so you know.. that's my biggest thing I will never understand about a loving God. :-)


Watching...the easy and not too in depth answer is "visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generations." So what you do now, will be apparent in your grandchildren and greatgrandchilren.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
Gemma---I totally agree with your post. I think you said that very well.

Sometimes there just isn't blame to be placed.
Doo-doo occurs!

Martinidreams
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08-19-2005

Friday, August 17, 2007 - 1:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Martinidreams a private message Print Post    
"What is Jameka referring to when she says "my God" and "your God"?"

Well, one possibility that no one has brought up is the possibility that it's her way of being respectful. Christians come under fire often enough for believing in only one God. By saying "my God" she leaves it open to respect someone who might feel their God is separate.

The fact is we don't know how she really feels. It really takes a strong person to keep their faith, any faith, in that house while being insulted by others for it. She screws up as much as anyone else and while bad behavior shouldn't be excused because she has faith, neither should her screwups be magnified because of it. If we accept Dick's behavior, good and bad, we have to accept Jameka's behavior, good and bad.

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Friday, August 17, 2007 - 1:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
She is not being insulted FOR her religion but how she is using it in the game. Huge difference, IMO.