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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 12:34 am
Hey, I'm changing my mind... the heck with Daniele, she has used her father and has been doing until Jury questions time. Dick has been pushing people around but it was Daniele doing a lot of instigation behind the scenes..
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 12:35 am
Spunky, I changed my mind too...you're not alone!!!
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Steeltoe
Member
05-19-2007
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 1:04 am
The one and only person that took Daniele as far as she has gone is her father. He played a wonderful game and he risked his chances by using his veto on her. Daniele only used her veto on her father because she knew there was no chance in her going home and she also wanted her father to look like the bad guy and vote Jameka out...DICK DESERVES TO WIN HE GOT THEM BOTH THERE.
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Emerald_seas
Member
07-14-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 6:57 am
I agree that DICK should win! If Danielle gets $500K, she will take the money and run, possibly breaking that 'father-daughter' bond they supposedly have.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 7:53 am
Well, I gather she threw a fit after the question period. Dick must not have told them to give the money to his daughter after all. Oh well, if Dick wins he'll give her half of the money just to have her talk to him again. I think she is just too young to understand that sometimes 2nd place isn't that bad. I wish them both good luck with their relationship, they'll need it.
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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:59 am
Maybe it wasn't that her dad won, but rather that they were just harsh on her that had her upset. From thier conversation is seemed she was upset on how they didn't think she played a good game - even after winning everything. Why do we have to make her out to be so horrible????? She deserves the final 2 as much as he does. She won alot of competitions and had to be the HOH that sent 2 people out - They played as a team and neither would have made it without the other.
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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 9:15 am
So, ED hasn't been repeating the questions out loud in the BY to the live feeders? I wonder if BB told him not to?
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 9:18 am
Looks like Dick finally gets it. Nothing is ever gonna be good enough when it comes to him and Danielle. He may win BB but he ain't gonna win his daughter any time soon if the feeds are any indication. He's right. He's screwed either way. Disgusting and disturbing as I find him, I'd vote for him over her any day of the week. So far as her behavior being excused or even explained by immaturity, I call BS on that. I can name a dozen people I know younger than her that are already very productive and important members of society. She can't even treat anyone with a modicum of respect. I'm sorry she's getting any money out of it to be honest. It'll just give her more reason to stay "immature". Ugh.
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Tissy
Member
07-28-2003
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 9:44 am
Danis behaviour and immaturity, looking at Dicks attitude towards her I cant decide whether it`s nature or nurture..
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 9:53 am
Tissy...I don't follow. How wold "Dick's attitude towards her" lead you to believe it was either nature or nuture?
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 10:01 am
Chippy, Dick ain't ever gonna get it because he does not want to. All he wants is that she act the way he wants her to act and that she forgive him so he can feel better. All he has done all summer is try to control her and how she reacts to him. All done in one of the most intense very passive agressive mode I have ever seen. He plays the concerned, wanting to be involved father role all the time when she wants to be left alone. And then he plays the I-try-so-hard-and-you-are-mean-to-me role and she rejects it because she knows it is all a game just to force her to deal with him on his terms, not hers. And then he plays the poor, rejected father mode so he can gain sympathy. This is just another form of rejection of her as the separate human being she is and abuse of her through sheer overwhelming and constant intimidation.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 10:02 am
Darcy, that did not appear to be the case after the Jury questioning was done. A bunch of us watched through the night. When the feeds returned immediately it was clear and Daniele and Dick weren't talking to each other. They were in seperate parts of the house. Finally when there was something said by Dick to Dani, we got the clear impression the Jury had really gone after Daniele. It seems like whatever question Amber asked Dani was the one which mosty upset her, but from the very little she said last night, sounds like the jury felt she had ridden her dad's coattails and that really made her angry. She has now taken that anger out on Dick. She barely talked to him, even though Dick tried once or twice. When he would go outside and talk to himself, he was more focussed on the realization that Daniele is pissed at him. It was definitely not like they both sat together rehashing the questions, Daniele went straight to bed, even though she lay there awake for hours. Dick was upset enough with her attitude toward him, that he didn't even mention the other jurors when he would say something. Amber's question whatever it was seemed to be the main one, and the only very vague inference we got was it part of it may have had to do with Dani saying she had loved Kris then suddenly teaming up with Nick....(we just don't know yet). But Dani knows inside her head that whatever questions the jury did ask, will be televised. She has also put the blame on her father now and Dick seems resigned to it nowing having damaged his relationship with her rather helped. He thought there worked as a team, and she made it clear, she was not working as a team with Dick.
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Beffylou
Member
04-21-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 10:25 am
I was watching to Loppes .. but here's kinda how I saw it. Dani was extremely upset and hurt. Dick is the ONE person who is around and he got the brunt of it. When I get that upset and hurt if someone is pushing me to talk .. you can bet they're gonna get the brunt of it. I can relate to Dani some (and I'm 47!) when I don't want to talk - leave the HECK alone until I do. Otherwise I'm not gonna be so nice to you. From my perspective, Dani needs time to process what she heard tonight from the jury.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 10:39 am
You also don't know for sure how long it was, after the questioning was over with, before the feeds came back. They could've had discussions before the feeds came back. I'm really curious to see what the questions were. I'd also be surprised if Amber was the one to bring up Kris, considering what Amber has done in past relationships. That would've been a question I'd have expected from Jen, who left no doubt as to what she felt about Daniele and Nick.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 11:07 am
what danielle might have forgotten, it is not how many comps you win, but getting the vote from the jury at the end.
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Bbnut
Member
06-12-2006
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 11:13 am
I agree Beffylou...I was just discussing that with my hubby and then I read your post. Too funny. Most people don't think on a psychological level...I do.
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Bbnut
Member
06-12-2006
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 11:15 am
Dick doesn't play concerned...he is...he just doesn't know how to deal with the situation...most people do not. That is why there are counselors.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 11:29 am
Dani wouldn't have had the opportunity to win comps if Dick hadn't put all his effort to keeping her when they were first put on the block. Dani is still in the game because Dick put himself on the line for her....The same cannot be said for Dani. I feel Dick deserves to win more than Dani...heck, I felt ZACK deserved to win more than Dani...
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 12:30 pm
Why would it surprise anyone that Amber brought up Nick? Aside from complaining about Eric, the ONLY thing that Amber and Daniele talked about was the sainted Nick, whose time in the house was cut tragically short by the Evil Eric, despite the fact that they BOTH voted to evict him. Why not call Dani on her hypocrisy of "playing to avenge Nick" as a strategy when she evicted Nick herself AND she had a boyfriend outside the house that she claimed to love. Dani's need for vengance broke up the LNC and she used personal reasons to justify her actions. Now she's got to answer for her play. That's what the jury is for, to question the game play. You use the personal as game play, you are going to get questioned on personal issues.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 12:52 pm
Yeah, Only, that's always stuck in my craw- how d/d scream and yipe at everyone in the name of St. Nick (ho, ho, ho) and yet voted him out of the house. Dick, much as he likes to say different, was quite instrumental in that eviction. And, I agree, Dani's vengence went a long way in splitting up the LNC. Thing is, Dani/Dick are the only two that aren't expected (in their own minds) to answer for anything. I'm really surprised they answered any questions at all. With the family affair (dysfunctional as it is) that is the final two, there really was no good reason for them to answer at all except maybe the threat of not fulfilling their duties as bb contestants. I'm gonna bet they were quite defensive (Dani more than Dick) in attitude to the evictees. After all, they're better than anyone else who has ever played the game. I'm also curious to see if they ever admit that AP kept them "safe" more than once. They sure didn't mind explaining to Zach how they dragged him through the game. As if.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 12:56 pm
I too agree that Amber would be the right one to bring up Nick. Dustin would have made the hypocrisy of their reaction abundantly clear to her.
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Slinkydog
Member
11-30-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 4:15 pm
Will they show jury questioning tonight, or Tuesday night?
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 4:20 pm
Tuesday night, most likely. Especially if this IS a recap tonight.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 4:34 pm
I couldn't agree more, What. It's all about what he needs from her. Ironically, because he can't see that, he drives her farther away, and the only power she has is to repel him.
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Bygdatty
Member
08-25-2007
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 4:48 pm
I dislike Dick. Most of the time he has a somewhat sadistic personality...he enjoys ranting and inflicting misery on people. But when it comes to his relationship with his daughter, he's a masochist. He so desperately wants the relationship, that he's willing to go to almost any length. His daughter wants a half million dollars. But even more so, I think she wants to win. I think it will devastate her to lose to Dick. Just as I think it will devastate her once she finds out that he's more popular than she is, that she's not "America's sweetheart." In fact, the fact that they already have a dysfunctional relationship, coupled with the fact that to a large measure Dick is going to be the toast of the town and she is not, I think further dooms their relationship after this is over. The money, too. I've been in the position of inheriting a large sum of money with relatives and believe me, unfortunately it doesn't tend to make the family closer.
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