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Streetsmart
Member
08-06-2006
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:16 pm
Jameka is a wonderful human being in a very stressfull situation. With a Man trying to intimidate with yelling and screaming at her. Its offensive to people who find it offensive and i find it offensive i also find it offensive that people are calling Jameka.... TAMEKA or GHETTO. That alone has racial overtones.
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Veander
Member
07-02-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:16 pm
"Jameka and Amber are examples of the negatively, stereotyped Christian." Both girls are simply using one of the only tools they know how to combat such a negative person - ie. Dick. I like Dick, but he's definitely one of those people who is comfortable making other humans uncomfortable. Most of us deal with it by ignoring (as most of the house does with him when they can) or small outbursts (such as we've seen with Dustin or Eric).}
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Veander
Member
07-02-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:19 pm
Jameka is a wonderful human being in a very stressfull situation. With a Man trying to intimidate with yelling and screaming at her. Wonderful? She's the only one in the house who's come back at Dick by saying some equally nasty things. She eggs him on constantly. I'm sure Jameka is a cool girl in the real world, but when stressed you see that she strikes back rather than rationally weighing the situation.
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Veander
Member
07-02-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:21 pm
I have NEVER seen where it says not to communicate with non believers! In fact, Christ told the Apostles to go out to the Gentiles and preach. To not preach only to the Jews anymore. I'll have to ask my friend about that one, but he mentioned it so many times. I don't think it was to not talk at all, but the gist was that you are there to convert your friend to Christ, and doing anything else is against god's will.
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Veander
Member
07-02-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:23 pm
Kinda like hanging out and having fun with Bin Laden while doing nothing to stop his criminal acts. I guess. Oh, I just compared myself to Bin Laden, but that wasn't the point. LOL
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Celticlass
Member
09-10-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:24 pm
Jameka a "wonderful person?" Sorry, but calling a woman you don't know a beotch, a woman who is a pastor, ministor of the Word which Jameka supposedly holds so dear? That does not define wonderful in my book.
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Veander
Member
07-02-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:28 pm
Dick's mother is a minister? Sorry haven't paid enough attention apparently. Still, Jameka may not have respect for female religious leaders as that's a no-no in Christian churches - mostly.
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Kearie
Member
07-21-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:29 pm
Veander--- I think it mentions that you shouldn't hang out with non-christians all the time. Christians need Christian fellowship to help them stay strong in the faith. It's much easier for a Christian to fall into sin, then it is for a non-christian to suddenly become a believer. Jameka, as faithful of a Christian as she might be, she put herself in this game for greed. She threw herself into the pit of vipers for greed. She's bound to fall flat on her face and sin more than she would on the outside world...it's a game of lying and deception. God doesn't bless that behavior and she is insisting God will help her...or a good person win. She's mocking Christianity, not the organ music.
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:31 pm
And I believe Jameka later prayed and asked God for forgiveness. Christians are NOT perfect...I have a temper problem that I am continually fighting. Ask my hubby...my Pastor's wife is always teasing me "throw any more eggs lately?!" We all have our stumbling blocks...a lot of us have two or three or more.
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Nala63
Member
09-20-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:32 pm
dicks vulgarety, dumping of anything on another person, intimadation, ruining food, hiding clothes ect, is way outside the way this game has ever been played. i would be crying out constantly for my Lords help if i were in the house with a person like that. if they want to send this kind of a message on bb than it should be placed at a late night hour. i used to enjoy watching it with my grandchildren...now i tape it and watch when they are not around..sad year for bb.
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Lainee
Member
07-19-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 3:38 pm
I totally agree, Nala!
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Sbondi
Member
09-16-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 4:20 pm
I am not sure if this was brought up already (did not read all the old posts) - sorry if it is repetitive, but when BB showed Amber talking about how G directed her to all the guitars - they were clearly making fun of her. I have strong faith in G, but when I hear Amber talking the way she does, I simply think she sounds ridiculous and quite ignorant.
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Kizz
Member
07-26-2001
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 4:45 pm
I also didn't get thru all the posts, but the organ music reminds me of something, maybe how they sometimes play the same kind of music in the background during those goofy shows that are on cable on Sunday nights, where they are drawing demons out and asking for money. It cracks me up, and I also take my faith in G seriously. Maybe the better thread would be "Are you offended that people in the Big Brother house think God wants them to win?"
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:00 pm
I'm just suggesting how they may think: Q: What does God want me to do? A: God wants me to help others who are in need. Q: How will God encourage me to do this? A: By helping me win money on Big Brother so I can use it in a positive way to help others. People regularly ask God to help them with personal things that will make their lives and the lives of their loved ones better. Just look around and you will see this.
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:05 pm
I think this thread might have been more interesting if everyone included their own faith orientation (though of course that can be personal). Because to be honest, I am thinking that most of the people who find the organ music funny are probably not 'religious' and many of the people who find it mocking or disrespectful are likely to have some degree of Christian faith... though I'm sure there are exceptions.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:07 pm
There are some Christians who are more concerned with Amber and Jameka's behavior than they are with the organ music.
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Piper45840
Member
03-02-2006
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:08 pm
I disagree with you Sharinia. I found the organ music funny and I consider myself to be religious. My belief's may not be the same as everyone's but I'm no less religious.
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Kearie
Member
07-21-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:12 pm
I think the thing with Jam is that she THINKS God wants her to win. She thinks God will make sure she, or a good person wins. I have never heard her ask what God's will is. She more or less tells God what her will is and believes if she is good enough, he will see that she is worthy of winning. I also haven't heard where she says she will use the winnings for others, or for her faith. And I still haven't heard of her apologizing to Dick. She's said she owes him one, but has he gotten it yet? Anyone ever hear her pray for Dick or Dani? We hear her pray to win. I think if she really wanted to win to put the money to use for God, we would have heard something about it by now.
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:15 pm
Jameka and Amber prayed God's will would be done in the POV competition Saturday. So if you follow her thinking when Dick won that WAS Gods will and she should keep Dick in the game. Again as a Christian using God in the game is offensive. using God for strength and comfort in a hard situation is fine and what a Christian should do. But using your faith to further yourself in a game. not what a Christian should do.
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Kearie
Member
07-21-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:18 pm
"There are some Christians who are more concerned with Amber and Jameka's behavior than they are with the organ music." Raises hand I think the organ music is BB mocking Jam and Am. I don't find it offensive. Too me, church music is a small band, a guitar, drums, a piano and "Lord I Lift Your Name on High"
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Kearie
Member
07-21-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:21 pm
Jameka and Amber prayed God's will would be done in the POV competition Saturday. So if you follow her thinking when Dick won that WAS Gods will and she should keep Dick in the game. We can only hope they praise God, that His will was done. And your logic makes perfect sense.
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Nutsy
Member
08-14-2001
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:21 pm
Kalekona - yeah, if it's God's will, then shouldn't her vote be aligned with God's will? Or it's only God's will if it benefits her? Sorry, I love the organ music. I find, in my humble opinion, that there are righteous Christians who pray in church and are quite good people, except they'll turn on you on a dime when it suits them. I know people who will stand on the church steps and make catty remarks about other folks who were in the same church praying next to them five minutes ago. Thus, I find the music takes away from the seriousness of it all, and adds a bit of humour for those of us that don't necessarily believe it's written already.
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Nutsy
Member
08-14-2001
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:22 pm
Kearie, that was wonky. 
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Kearie
Member
07-21-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:23 pm
NUTSY-----PTLLLLLL
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:34 pm
Piper, I wouldn't assume because someone is laughing that they are less religious. As I posted earlier up the thread, I found it rather funny initially too (and I consider myself Christian). And truthfully, there's a part of me that still wants to giggle, but I am also feeling increasingly that it is inappropriate. ETA: I am just guessing that in *general* there might be some correlation - and it would be interesting to know everyone's personal faith perspective. I mean, if someone finds Christians who wear their faith on their sleeve irriating, it would not surprise me if they weren't offended.
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