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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 7:57 am
oh okay thanks I don't get to watch much because My Son and Grandaughter are here for vacation. So As soon as I can get real player to ans the phone I'm going to cancel. Its almost all over anyway. Did they show any of the jury questions on feeds last night?
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 7:57 am
Gal, exactly right with your 7:17am post! I don't think he's ever grown up from his teenage years.
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Cheekychops
Member
08-12-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:05 am
Seattlemom, no, they didn't show anything with the jury on the feeds and they started after midnight so Showtime was over by then. Enjoy your visit.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:11 am
" of course not sure how one teaches respect when one hasn't learned it themselves.." Exactly Nick...you can not act and talk in front of your dtg like Dick does and then expect that child to respect you as a parent. TO ALL who think Dani will win: In the history of BB...what the two HG feel after the jury questioning has always been correct. Nicole knew she had lost, Danelle knew she had lost, Jun/Allison wasn't quite as clear but Allison felt she had lost, Drew would win and everyone knew it, Ivette knew she had lost, and Erika knew she had lost. Now the TV show usually tries to mislead...but the F2 on live feeds after questioning have always been right. I TOTALLY AGREE with those who said the Donatos are the ones who made this game soooooo "personal"...while Dick ranted about/on the HG, he included their parents, girlfriends, children, jobs, employers, etc. The Donatos are "reaping what they sowed". currently: Dicks crying jag is over and he is sleeping
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Cheekychops
Member
08-12-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:15 am
Was he crying because he felt bad about maybe beating Dani and perhaps winning this?
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:20 am
Mindreader that I am I'll say that he was crying because he feels he can't do anything right in this situation, and he doesn't have the relationship and approval of his daughter that he so craves. Okay, I'm just guessin'!
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:25 am
Psst Cheeky and Tresbien...the Dick crying is a joke that has been going on in here for about the last 18 hours....if you go back....oh say 900 pages and read Loppes and Beekind you will understand..lol It was quite fun and amuzing.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:29 am
I think he felt bad because there is no pleasing his daughter. She blames him for everything, she thinks, is wrong in her life. I remember when my kids were just starting puberty and I would wake them up in the morning and say " I know something will piss you off today and whatever it is I just want you to know I'm sorry. I will get blamed for it so I'll apologize now and save myself the trouble later." She is older now and he needs to quit letting her think this behavior is still okay.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:29 am
I was here for a lot of that, Boberg, but went to bed before they returned from jury questioning. I thought I read in the feeds that he actually did cry or am I just imagining that? That's what I was responding to anyway. LOL
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:31 am
I know about the joke here, and I see even at joker's someone says he was crying at about 7:30 AM. I was watching, but I didn't witness anything but his usual sounds and movements that many mistake as crying.
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Cheekychops
Member
08-12-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:31 am
Ohhhhhh thanks for letting us in on the joke Boberg. 500 pages? Yikes! I'll take your word for it. Hey, here is something I wanted to mention. When BB started they listed only two names on the description for BB on my DVR. First it was Dustin and Joe, then it went to Dustin and Dani's. Well about six weeks ago, they listed Dani and Dick's name and it stayed like that. Interesting, eh? Donno, I thought it was. Thanks for sharing. LOL
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K9lover1
Member
07-04-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:31 am
Is there a recap on how the questioning by the jury went?
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:33 am
K9lover1, check the live feed video thread. There's 2 very short youtubes. D/D gave us very little info about the questioning and you'll see why.
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:33 am
To me they mirror one another in many ways but are polar opposites in other ways. IMHO they both need to come to acceptance and not try to change each other. We all have to do our own inside work; it's not anyone else's job or right to do so.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:36 am
I thought you were here Tresbien but just in case I was wrong, thought I'd fill you in. I didn't read about any crying but I am sure he has felt like it. As best he can, he loves his daughter and his daughter loves his daughter. Depressed Narcissist is what comes to mind when I think of Dani. Reading parts of her journal just reinforced that opinion.
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Rubyroo77
Member
08-13-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:38 am
Earthmother- I know what you are saying, but I wonder if Dick is afraid to let her know her behavior is not ok- because then she won't talk to him- period. At least with him like this he still gets to commuicate with her..do you know what I mean? I don't know..just thinking..
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:41 am
Thanks Boberg! Yeah, what I saw was the entry Naja also saw at Jokers. Thanks to you both for clarifying it.
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Cheekychops
Member
08-12-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:42 am
I read some of her LJ from two years ago. She came across as she does on the show now. She hasn't grown up much. I thought it was horrible that her grandmother got rid of Dani's dog and Dani kept talking about her grandmother saying when she turns 18, she wanted her out. She explained the way she met Kris and how he was engaged to someone else when she was persuing (sp?) him. Last night was enough for me. I don't think I'll be watching the Showtime feed anymore. Besides Dani being rude to Dick and Dick just taking it, it has gotten boring.
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Bubba
Member
07-29-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:43 am
To me Dani is the owner of a mean Dog (Dick) who attacks everyone, while the owner does nothing to stop the dog and even sometimes incouages the dog. Now do you hate the dog or the owner?
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Wahmmy
Member
07-24-2005
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:46 am
I watched my father got thru what Dick has been trying to do, rebuild a relationship with estranged children, SIX of them. It ain't easy and it is usually because of the children. I was 35 when I finally decided that I was carrying enough baggage around with me to require 3 porters and wanted to just let it all go. Glad, I did. But, we had to form a relationship as two adults not father/daughter. I am glad I did because he became very sick with pancreatic cancer and had little time left. But, it was me he called due to my medical knowledge. He didn't do a thing I suggested but we were speaking weekly when he died. I never regretted it.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:52 am
Cheekychops, I'm past the point of cutting Dani any slack. I wouldn't be surprised if Grandma gave away Dani's dog because Dani wasn't taking care of it. I also wouldn't be surprised if Grandma was rightfully fed up with Dani's behavior (which had to be worse in her teenage years than it is now) and did in fact tell her she was out when she turned 18. I doubt I would have lasted that long, I've had told Dick to come get his daughter long before that.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:54 am
You are right Ruby, but I think he has to risk it if she is ever going to grow up. I'd venture that in the past two years that she has been ignoring him he has tried numerous times to see and talk to her. It's been a game for her because she knows he will never cut her off. At some point (for his sanity) he's going to have to say "enough is enough..I've played your little guilt game for years and I'm done. I love you but you are going to have to come to terms with your lack of maturity. I will always be here for you, but I'm not making anymore ammends for you. If you want to talk to me call me, but I won't be calling you." My sister was much like Dani, and that is what I had to do. I am 10 years older than her and she looked to me more as a mom. She guilted me into giving her anything she wanted and then would ignore me until she wanted something else. She blamed me for every mistake she made claiming I controlled her. I gave her control finally and refused anymore assistance, and told her she was now in total control of her life, I loved her and would always be there if she needed a shoulder but the gravy train was over. It took about 18 months and she realized how much I had been there for her and that she had never reciprocated. We are best of friends now and have been there for each other daily for over 5 years. Sometimes "tough love" is all you can do when you've tried everything els.
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Lgt
Member
07-28-2007
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:56 am
poor dick he cant do anything right with her and he is too scared to put that brat in check
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Tresbien
Member
08-27-2002
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:57 am
EM, please post your thoughts in the relationship thread. I said much the same thing a day or two ago but didn't get a bit of support.
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Smokeymtns
Member
08-11-2007
| Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 9:00 am
I think Daniele felt helpless as a little child when he "went away". As she grew, her anger built up. Now that she's an adult, she probably feels that she is in control of her life, and he doesn't have her permission to hurt her anymore. It's payback time for Dad. At least in her mind. She doesn't HAVE to be around him or respect him. She doesn't HAVE to talk to him if she so chooses. That doesn't make her likeable in the least, but would explain her behavior towards him. It is an unfortunate situation, and I think that perhaps there is hope that Daniele will ultimately mature and realize how she comes off to the rest of the world. I think Dick will never care how he treats the rest of the world. That was apparent in the house. There is hope for Daniele. For Dick, it's too late. Personally, I think his remarks to the cameras are an attempt to manipulate the viewing audience (See, I TOLD you she was impossible)into not blaming him for taking the money and blowing it on himself. Which is what I believe he will do. JMO
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