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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 8 ARCHIVES: Big Brother 8 - Part 10: Dick and Daniele.. Relationship Success or Disaster?: Archive through August 26, 2007 users admin

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Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 4:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Sorry to post so many, but I'm trying to be fair and I didn't know how else to do it.

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
Listening to Dani she has not said he did horrible things to her, she said he said horrible things to her,}}

Out of Dani's own mouth to Amber last night:

Dani: I know you all know he follows me around and wants to be around all the time. What do you do when you for your own deep deep reasons don't want that man around. He did horrible deep deep things to me, and I'm sorry I'm not thick skinned, and he acts like everything is not a big deal, and going from that to seeing this man every day and acting like we're best friends! Give me a break! It's too much!

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
but i don't believe he did it around his children sunshyne. that is the problem he has with amber. she has custody of her child and she does drugs with her child in the house.

Ivory_mist
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08-31-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 4:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ivory_mist a private message Print Post    
just tell me what the blue numbers mean

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 4:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
Did Amber admit to that?

Ivory_mist
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08-31-2005

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 4:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ivory_mist a private message Print Post    
Amber said she did drugs on weekends when she never had her daughter.

Tre34
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08-17-2005

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Go to Zaba Search .com and see what u all get on yourselves and Dick

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 4:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I don't think that just not doing it in front of the children cushions them at all. They feel the effects, they see the effects on other family members, they experience the absence and when they get old enough they KNOW.

I credit Daniele for not laying out any details in front of the world.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 4:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
he didnt have his kids so i'm sure he may not have done it infront of them.


i have never heard Amber say she had done drugs with her daughter. That is something DICK made up for that kitchen interlude.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 4:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
so amber only works weekends? she said she did it to give her energy so she could work. if she could support her child by only working weekends i am moving to vegas!

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Ivory...Amber has said she used drugs to give her energy to work. She also said she was addicted heavily to them, so I suppose I would have to jump to the conclusion that she used them daily, as most addicts use daily.

I agree with Sea that children see and feel the effects of drug use even though it may not be done directly in front of them.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 4:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I think people may ahve misunderstood. Amber started doing double shifts to make extra money when the Puppy needed medical treatments.

That is when she said she started taking the drugs. At work to keep going.

Later when confronted she said that the kid was not home but I think that when she did 24 hr shifts the daughter wasnt home alone either.

Castleexplorer
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08-10-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 11:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Castleexplorer a private message Print Post    
I wonder why she was worrying so much about the puppy rather than how the double shifts might affect the amount of time spent with her daughter.

Who knows what she did with her daughter when she worked. There is no way to find out, really. I feel badly that she turned to drugs, but people on drugs do things that they wouldn't normally do, obviously. I have no doubt that she loves her daughter. I should say that it does bother me when she swears on her daughter's life. That's just bad karma.

Castleexplorer
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08-10-2005

Friday, August 24, 2007 - 11:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Castleexplorer a private message Print Post    
Oh sorry, I didn't remember that this was a D & D thread by the time I finished reading it. Mods, please feel free to take my off-topic comments off. Like I can tell the mods what to do.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 3:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
her daughter was with her biological dad who has been very supportive.

Mom and other family are also around.
((I agree, bad karma. ))

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 3:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
OH and on topic, dick and dani have something in common. they just love to talk about the other HGs. This evening i see no tension or anything between the two that leads me to believe that the fight was real.

I am truly thinking that this could be part of the gameplay. yeah they both do end up crying but both do have some acting skills dont they?

i dont know, listening to them around midngiht made me think...Birds of a feather stick together

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
It wouldn't surprise me if they had never been estranged and this is all phoney.

2addicted
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07-17-2006

Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send 2addicted a private message Print Post    
Actually-- the answers to Sun and Puzzled's questions are out there-- Dani's online journal is on the internet for everyone to read. She's been keeping it for years. Plus her brother Vincent has a long thread on another BB board where he has answered these (and other) questions.

It seems that Dick and Dani had a pretty good relationship through December 2005 when she hooked up with her BF Kris. According to Vincent, that's when she alienated herself from her family.


I believe the estrangement was legit (though the length was exaggerated) and that they are taking baby steps to repair the damage.

p.s. I can't remember if it's OK to post the links here or not. If it is, perhaps the mods will let me know and I'll post them.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 5:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
i dont recall asking a question other than rhetorical

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It seems that Dick and Dani had a pretty good relationship through December 2005 when she hooked up with her BF Kris.

yeah, I remember Dick making a comment about being upset when Dani lost her virginity. I presume this might have been when the Sheet hit the fan.

Anyways, I was surprised Dick made a comment like that in front of the other HGs the first week. Strange how it was okay to take Vincent to a strip club for his birthday and Dani should be virginal??

just extrapolating from things heard on Feeds.

2addicted
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07-17-2006

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send 2addicted a private message Print Post    
You're right Sun-- you said "I am truly thinking that this could be part of the gameplay" It sounded as if you were wondering whether or not they fabricated the rift for the show. I was curious enough about the real story to read her brother Vincent's long thread at SS (though I'm usually scared to go there :-) and to read a bit of Dani's online journal http://241dani.livejournal.com/

From the comments that Dani, Vincent and Dick have made the putative cause was an incident where Dani borrowed money from Dick and then didn't pay it back. But Vincent believes that it was more a situation of her boyfriend driving a wedge between them.

We obviously can't know for sure the details, but we can know that Dani talked about her dad in her journals in a friendly way through Dec 2005 (and took cute photobooth photos with him)
and then about a year and a half ago, stopped mentioning him at all.

Dick and Dani December 2005

Milosmom
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06-10-2006

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Milosmom a private message Print Post    
I don't find it strange at all Sun. Dads are a LOT more protective of their daughters, than their sons.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - Vincent probably didn't have sex when his Dad took him to the strip club so it's not the same thing.

I agree there is a double standard though with a greater concern about daughter's sex lives. And some Dads are more protective of their daughters in that respect.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 9:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
How old was Vincent when they went to the strip club? I thought I heard he was 21. If so, that makes a difference, too.

Jaided
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08-04-2007

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jaided a private message Print Post    
I know Dick has said he wants to go to counseling with her and work on their relationship and she has said no.

I think they each need individual counseling because I think they both have their own issues.|

I do think Daniele has issues. How could she not? She was raised by her grandparents... that alone must be an issue.. why her parents didn't want her.. Do we ever hear her mention her mom? That kind of stuff screws with a kids brain!

I also think Daniele does battle with Anorexia..When I first saw her she looked so emaciated and frail. In her live journal she mentioned that she threw up a lot etc. It is interesting reading it....

I don't think they will ever have a great relationship long term until they can each battle their inner deamons... I thought I read somewhere that Dick was bi-polar... ?? They need to each get straight in their own heads before they can be anything to eachother.

Flamingo
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08-19-2003

Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flamingo a private message Print Post    
Daniele say "okay" to Dick when he mentioned getting counseling, she hasn't to my knowledge said no.

As for her mom, we know she didn't sign the release so Daniele isn't allowed to talk about her on the feeds. And that's the first I've read anything about Dick being bipolar. Very likely just another (of the many) internet rumours.

I think counseling would do both of them a world of good. Neither one knows how to talk to the other, and it's not going to get any better until they start trying.