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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 8:45 am
I think early in the game, Dick decided that if one of them must go, it would be him simply because he figured that she was a better competitor, and without her, he would not stand a chance. He had already antagonized too many people. But when it came down to the end and it is just between the two of them, why shouldn't he play to win? He has worked just as hard and won almost as may comps as she has. And he won the most important one, the last one. He has every right to win. And I agree that he may have had that in mind when he complained about her. I don't think he was so much playing for her as he was playing for them. He was willing to sacrifice himself for her because he felt it was better for the "team." But why sacrifice himself when they as a team have already won the whole thing? I see it as him deciding it would be better for him to have control of the "their" winnings than her. And in this is, he is correct, because if she won, it won't be their winnings, it will be hers.
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Webchiq
Member
07-11-2005
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 9:15 am
In Big Brother, there is only one winner and if he wins, I hope that he keeps the money for himself and if she wins, I hope she keeps that money for herself. They each played a game and they each did very well.
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Webchiq
Member
07-11-2005
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 9:16 am
When I was 20-21, I was still living for the approval of others and was not self-centered in anyway, much to my detriment. It's a good survival technique.
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Nancyb
Member
07-07-2005
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 9:24 am
Are people sure they are reporting the Dick and taxes thing correctly? The only thing I recall is that he said he hadn't PAID taxes for several years. That is a lot different than not filing. I think a lot of people say they didn't pay any tax but actually mean they didn't make enough to pay over what was withheld, or didn't make enough to have to pay. I'll withhold judgment until I can hear a youtube where he said he didn't file.
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 9:26 am
If Dani wins, she will take her winnings and go off to live her life. I hope she gets a good education and is able to get past her justifiable anger at her parents. In time she might even reestablish a relationship with Dick on her terms. If Dick wins, he will dole out money to her in small amounts to keep control of her, to keep her where he wants her. I don't see him handing her half. She will hate that, and she will end up cutting him off. Dani will blame him for her loss and possibly never forgive him. So if Dick really wants a relationship with his daughter above all, then he should hope he loses or he should be prepared to hand her half of what he gets. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 9:29 am
Nancy, Dick said he was paid "under the table" and therefore paid no taxes, not that he filed and was assessed no tax. Not too smart of him to say that on the internet. I bet his employer is really happy about that.
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Chippy
Member
08-16-2007
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 10:15 am
How bout when Dick told Dani he was gonna travel here and there and blah, blah and she asked HOW on 50K? She acted as if she was joking, but the look on Dick's face which was fleeting but oh so noticeable told me that he had a lightbulb moment- a realization that this chick ain't gonna be sharing the loot. I enjoyed it. LOL. And, I think he re-thought his approach to the jury because of it (and a few other things she's said/done). I'm sure Dani (and all the other hgs for that matter) will be stunned at the Dick following, the Dick defense, the Dick is entertaining, the Dick is sexy, the Dick hung the moon, the Dick can do no wrong and if he does he had a reason thing going on cause I know if I live to be 100, I won't get it either. On another thread, a poster asked, "how can ya not like this guy?" Me? I can't find one redeeming quality about him and not much about his daughter either. The immaturity cop out dog doesn't hunt IMO. Dani is 21 yo. People her age are fighting wars, staffing intensive care units, protecting and serving, etc. Her maturity may not be complete but expecting her to act better than a 13yo isn't too much to ask.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 10:40 am
Everyone was raised differently and every 21 year old is going to be different. Some were more protected than others; some had to learn to be self-sufficent early on. Sorry, but I would not compare Daniele and her life prior to BB to anyone else's. It's not fair to her. And to set the record straight, those of us who like Dick do not necessarily condone some of the things he's said. But then, I also don't condone the things that Amber, Jen, or Eric have said (with the others agreeing). I think the bitter jury will be really surprised to find out that they are NOT as well liked as they thought. I think they will be even more surprised to find out how well liked Dick (and ultimately) Dani are liked.
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 10:46 am
I'm sorry to say but Dick's fan base is not small.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 10:51 am
I REALLY wish people would stop acting like the ENTIRE jury thinks they are the "good people". That was an Amber, Jameka, Dustin (to a lesser extent) construct with Dani and Dick preying upon that notion and using it when it suited them, like in their drive to evict Eric for having the nerve to convince them all to vote out Nick. Neither Eric nor Jessica has ever espoused the "good people" notion EXCEPT when it suited them strategically. Eric is very aware of the popularity of Dick and Daniele and has communicated this to Jess on several different occasions. Jen has held herself above ALL of these people, not just Dick and Daniele, but she has certainly never joined some kind of "good people" group. The jury's responsibility is to question the F2. That doesn't make them bitter. The questions, as we've heard them, all, once again, sound quite benign. Dick and Dani used personal tactics in this game, and they may have gotten called on that. Was anything said that really deserves the 24 hours of moping and whining that it seems to have instigated? Nothing that I've heard.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 11:03 am
Of course Dansi played for herself............duhhhhhhh. That anyome would expect her to have done otherwise is funny.
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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 11:13 am
Costacat Very well said ! Kudo's*** and on a side note the good verses Evil even came in the game as late as when Zack and Jameka held hands and Prayed at the end because as Zack said Now a good person is going to win! Yes Jess and Eric didn't use the term good people as much, But Eric did use the term Incest!!!!! While at times they were claiming to be the good people! No matter who had won the Jury would be just as bitter at! ANd as to the questions and comments the Jury says I am sure we don't hear it all. And Marameko EXACTLY LOL DUH I agree Who do we think anyone should play for??? Also another statement well said LOL
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Mssas
Member
08-04-2006
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 11:18 am
This might of been posted already but... She wanted her Dad to act the way he did and to be with her in the Final 2 so they would vote for her vs him as she knows the way he acted was WRONG...yet she did nothing about it when I truly think she could have. Remember, he would do anything for his daughter.
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Zillie
Member
02-16-2007
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 11:20 am
Does anyone know anything about Dani's mother? She is never mentioned, did she pass away?
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Cmist
Member
09-20-2005
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 11:25 am
I think that Dani did play for herself and Dick but she was much more low key about it. She is not the extrovert that Dick is but I am now convinced that she was 100% committed to her Dad and her winning. Of course she would have liked to win first place but who can blame her for that. Who knows she still may win the top prize but she seems ok now with 2nd also.
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Loppes
Member
07-12-2002
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 11:26 am
Mssas absolutely. It was very telling during Part 1 comp when she started getting cold and shivering, that she exerted a lot of effort to get Dick's attention and signal him to start his verbal diarrhea against Zach. Meanwhile, her hands were "clean" because she never said one word to Zach, all she did was complain about how cold she was getting. She did the same just before the Jury questions, where she was so nasty to Dick the whole day and then confirms if he was going to ask Jen a nasty question during Jury. Daniele is for herself, whether she plays a game or not, imho. Its clear in her LJs, its clear in 3 months of watching her actions, and clearly now in F2 it is very clear. Dick obviously feels guilt in himself, and pacifies her tantrums. Sadly, he didn't see a need to seek counselling for himself, prior to entering the house. The Donato <55>, will or will not resolve itself, depending on which of the two of them wins the top prize. He has been playing for "both" of them, but I also think he has a teeny bit of intelligence not to split half with Daniele if he wins it. Daniele - well I can't imagine her splitting any of the money with him if she wins. She has a clear record by now, of being nice to someone when she needs something, then totally ignoring them or being rude once she gets it - and that without question also includes Dick.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 11:27 am
Thank you Seattle !! And I thught last year was a terrible season. Either of the Donatos on tv after Tuesaday is wayyyyyyyyy to soon.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 1:27 pm
Daniele's mother left soon after her birth. She also did not sign a waiver, so if Dani or Dick ever began to mention her, we got FOTH in some fasion. Her mother apparently has several children from another man (her second husband?).
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 2:59 pm
QUOTE:If Dick wins, he will dole out money to her in small amounts to keep control of her, to keep her where he wants her. " I think he would dole out the money too, but I don't think it would be to control her, I think it would be him trying to keep her talking to him. QUOTE:I don't see him handing her half." I wouldn't blame him if he didn't, but I know he will make sure both his kids get part of his win. Re the endurance part of the comp...I think one of the main reason's Dick got so nasty with Zach (which I could hardly watch, I felt so bad for Zach) was because it was killing him to see his daughter suffering, and then when she went out it was pissing him off. I also think that is why he poured the tea over Jen's head. She (jen) was attacking his daughter, at least in his eyes...I'm not so sure how I would react to watch someone verbally attack my child or stand and watch them in so much pain, crying, and shivering.
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Klaw73
Member
08-21-2006
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:08 pm
Agree with title...
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Kmjm
Member
05-19-2002
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:18 pm
If Dani doesn't want to talk to Dick, then doling out money in small amounts to keep her tied to him IS using the money to control what she does!
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:21 pm
uh she could say no
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Nycsoho
Member
08-11-2007
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:24 pm
They will both get money. The whole season is a Donato win.
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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:29 pm
okay let me talk about something I havent thought worth mentioning. We Don't all come from nice loving family's My family is and was disfunctional. My Oldest sister chose not to talk to us after our Mom Died and took her anger to the grave we wern't even notified my sister died till after (by her choice) My Dad was a very mean person and latter in life as I craved for his love and attention I watched my middle sister get it. When he got older and sick he tried offering me money etc to try and change how I felt about him! I chose Not to. His last offer was $2000. a month to let him live with me. I'm sorry he is hateful and all the money in the world cant undo the past! Unless I walk in Dick and Dani's shoes I can't find it in me to judge one way or another!
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Nycsoho
Member
08-11-2007
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:37 pm
Good for you SM. I enjoyed your post.
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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:40 pm
Thanks Nychsoho I wasn't trying to be rude or mean I am just sigh well You know LOL
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Nycsoho
Member
08-11-2007
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 3:46 pm
I do indeed know.
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 4:06 pm
I just don't think his intentions will be malicious...it will be to have some kind of relationship with her, because at this point I think he will still think he can "buy" her love or that she will need him. I don't think it would be to control her life.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 4:11 pm
I think Dick desperately wants to fix things with Dani. I don't think either of them really knows how. I think family counseling would be beneficial, but then, I am very pro-therapy. By the way, if Dani is playing for herself, I see nothing wrong with that.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, September 17, 2007 - 4:15 pm
Seattle, would you consider your father a "mean friend"? <snicker> I'm positive Dick desperately wants to "fix things" with Daniele. I think, as I've said before, that they need to get out of the house, decompress a bit, and then think back to how well they (mostly) got along for three months. I dunno if they will get professional help (or even if it would be helpful), but I think once they've got some open lines of communication, things will improve.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 4:42 am
Dick may be trying to buy Dani's love... but Dani is certainly letting him know her love/acceptance/approval/whatever IS for sale. Dani withdraws her "love/acceptance/approval/whatever" whenever Dick doesn't see things or do things her way. If I was Dick, I might get the impression that the only way to get Dani's acceptance is to give her what she wants... Right now...she wants the money.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 2:58 pm
Dani did play only for herself the entire game. She just probably played for second place. I guess we will know in a few hours.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 5:41 pm
I know it won't happen, but I actually wouldn't mind a shakeup and Dani wins. Let's see how Dick acts.
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 5:50 pm
I think he would be thrilled for her.
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