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Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Jameka may have strong religious beliefs but she's using them for strategic purposes.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Minerva, your grandmother sounded like a great lady.

Religion and BB -- I dont recall the bible in BB in the first BB but do recall Will and Boogie one night looking at the bible to come up with some quotes to go along with their latest scam on the HGs. I have thought over the years that some have used the bible as an excuse and out of boredom, it is after all the only reading material allowed and I dont know..... if I was in that house, with no reading material I might find Jesus too.

I have met people of great faith and I have found they usually dont wear it on their sleeves or push it on other people. I have also known people who profess to follow whatever teachings they claim to follow and they have been pretty evil and nasty people. So whether someone professes to follow a religion is pretty irrelevant to me and meaningless, it is how they live their lives.

In BB land, I find it somewhat offputting watching someone pleading with a god to get them through a challenge or competition. When they start going on to the houseguests about their god, I turn off totally.

Martinidreams
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08-19-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Martinidreams a private message Print Post    
"In BB land, I find it somewhat offputting watching someone pleading with a god to get them through a challenge or competition. "

If that person is consistant in their beliefs, they would also pray for help in getting through a difficult date, hard day at work, a sporting event they indulge in, etc. How is the BB game any different? A christian believes that God is there for them regardless of how mundane or trivial the situation. It's the limitation of human understanding that see's God as 'busy' with someone's trivial, less important situations.

Snoopy
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07-12-2007

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Snoopy a private message Print Post    
<93>
God could be on Dick and Dani's side, to bring a father and daughter together. <93>

Maris
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03-28-2002

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I just found it offputting, the desperation and the way she does it. It just seems a little twisted to me. Whatever gets you through the day, I guess.

Cmist
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09-20-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cmist a private message Print Post    
I also think Jameka has every right to talk about her christianity but when she does fans also have the right to take offence to her version of christianity. Many of us are christians but I have NEVER heard anyone say "God is so gangsta". I have seen people bring religion into BB to some level every year but it never seems to be recieved well in the context of the game. I think it is because most people really don't believe God is really that concerned who wins BB. If they use it more as a support and strength to get them through the time as we usually do in real life as Kasar did it may be recieved better. But, when someone starts saying that God is determining who will win it works against the person. Jameka has already said she shouldn't have said anything about God wanting her to play hard for Jen in the veto contest. What I don't understand is why she made such a spectical of herself after the HOH comp laying on the floor upstairs praying. I can only conclude it was a very difficult time for her and she was genuinely seeking comfort from her religion. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Life isn't easy in the BB house.

Chicogirl
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07-23-2007

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chicogirl a private message Print Post    
I have trouble with someone saying they are a good Christian, then being part of a bashing party on a nightly basis, and to call someone's Mother a B***h.
I know she is only human, and can make a mistake, but for her to take part in in the putting down of other humans as often as she does is un-Christianly period.
Dick's behavior has been wrong ( I did giggle at the pot banging wake up call) but he has admitted to playing the game in that manner, and has never claimed to be better than anyone else.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
I think this is perhaps the kind of prayer Jameka prays.

Dear Gangsta God,

I'm so sorry God, I called Dick's mom a bad word. I know it wasn't right, but he got me so mad, I just couldn't help myself. You hear how he talks. I stood up to him and then he mocks you God. He's evil God. I know you only want a good person to win this game, so God, help me win. I will try harder to control my temper God. Just make sure I win. Amen.

Chicogirl
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07-23-2007

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chicogirl a private message Print Post    
LOL.... that's great Kearie.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
and that's about it, Kearie.

Sooner or later God must remind her:
I only help those who help themselves...

Hotfudge
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07-03-2005

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 7:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hotfudge a private message Print Post    
As a good Christian is it right that she constantly calls Dick the Devil and tells him he is going to burn in Hell? That just seems really wrong to me. Now Dick doesn't want to be saved and I know she can't force him to find God but calling him the Devil is as bad as calling someone a C*** or a B**** imo.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Oh, Hotfudge, I'll have to disagree with you there. Dick doesn't care if Jameka calls him the devil but the girls do care if he says those things. He is being mean but that is who he is.
I am embarrassed at the way Jameka and Amber pray about this show. That's the only way I can put it. I just don't think it's right to pray for personal financial wealth. If you really want financial wealth go out and earn it the hard way. This show brings out the worse in people but I do not think it is who they really are. Some are worse, while others are not.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
You know, that whole "your mother's a " thing on tonight's show seemed to come so out of left field that it just had to be taken out of context. I have either seen some clips or read other people's descriptions of that scene, and I think it went something like Jameka pointing out that Dick's mother and Dani are christians, and he kept calling Jameka names and belittling her beliefs, to which she kept replying "your mother and your daughter." Meaning that if he was calling Jameka those things, he was calling his own mother and daughter those names too. You know very well Dick called Jameka a , to which she probably replied, [then] your mother's a [too]. We only got to hear the your mother's a part.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
Forgive me for jumping back up into the pulpit (lol) but personally, I try to pray the way that Jesus taught in Matthew 6:8-10 and Luke 11:1-3. To me, "give us this day our daily bread" means give me what I need - physically, mentally, and spiritually - today. "Thy will be done" - not what I want, but what He wants, and for the strength to accept it. Right now I'm unemployed, and believe me, I pray that He leads me to the right job. But I can't get that right job if I don't send out resumes.
As to Jameka's blow-up at Dick, she may be a "babe in Christ" or not have enough strength to "overcome". I thought about how I would react to him and decided if he came at me like that I'd just tell him, "Dick, everyone has a cross to bear and you must be mine".

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
i agree bluejaxrock. plus i have not seen/read about her praying for dick.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
Zachsmom, me either. I thought of my former boss as my "personal demon" (didn't call her a demon or devil) meaning I was allowing her to test me. Then I remembered "pray for your enemies" and my attitude flipped. I'm no saint, pretty much a guarantee I'll never be one, but I believe the scripture is there as a guideline and tool for what I should strive to be.
Again, maybe J is either fairly new to this faith stuff, or is relying on what a preacher tells her the Bible means rather than asking God to show her what she needs to see/believe.
Really, I'm going back to my pew now.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Bluejax - I have agreed with every post you've made. It's exactly how I feel and think.

Oh btw.. I definitely know God does not care about games/sports, etc., since I prayed that Jeff Gordon win the Nascar race and then even said.. Oh God, I know I shouldn't be asking you THAT and what happens? Jeff spun out with only 2 laps of the race to go and Tony Stewart won. Tsk tsk for me to bother God for anyting but all of their safety. :-)

Jactree
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07-31-2006

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jactree a private message Print Post    
I made two same posts. The 2nd one is edited and better than first one, so I deleted this post.

Moderator, please delete this post. Thanks!

Jactree
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07-31-2006

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jactree a private message Print Post    
Each person is unique and have a right to be a Christian or not. BB likes to mix both Christians and non-Christians to make interesting drama.

However, it bothers me that some houseguests would use God for their game play. It is OK to use a prayer for personal & private use, but I don't agree that houseguests would use religion to slam other houseguests.

I am impressed with Kaysar's game play in BB6. He NEVER claimed to use Allah for an advantage in his strategy or used his religion on houseguests. He prayed privately and humbly.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
yes bluejax, pray for your enemies more than for yourself, even if you don't mean it in the beginning. pretty soon you will mean it and that would be gods love shining through.

Junerose
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07-20-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 6:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Junerose a private message Print Post    
Jameka has said that she knows she is not perfect. That is why she goes to church every week back home. She knows she is a sinner, and needs constant forgiveness. Constant reminders that God is still there for her even when she fails to be the Christian she wants to be. Amber strikes me as someone who did not grow up in church, and is just learning what it's all about. Therefore, her prayers come from a more childish/selfish place. But, she is eager to learn. And, thankfully, she has someone there willing to try to help her.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 6:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
Oh, so the fact that she knows she is not perfect excuses her behavior? That is a cop-out as far as I am concerned.

Junerose
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07-20-2005

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Junerose a private message Print Post    
I don't think it excuses her behavior. And she isn't excusing it, herself. She told Amber that she used to be very proud of her mouthiness, and people being scared of her cursing them out, etc. That she still struggles with her mouth and her pride. How is that excusing it?

Ambi
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08-11-2007

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 6:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ambi a private message Print Post    
I just like Dick's shirt. The one that says- "I'm mean because you're stupid".

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
i love that one too. funny when he was wearing that on the show last night while in a fight with dustin and jameka...lol