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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:12 am
Jen has to also remember that it was JOE who went and narc'd on her to Nick, about the "alleged" kiss.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:13 am
Man, Dick just cannot let his conversation with Jen rest. He has told the convo to each HG - I'm sick of hearing about it! (on Showtoo last night)
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-19-2004
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:15 am
Still a fan of Dick...I want him to stay.
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Dfng
Member
08-04-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:15 am
I think Dick wanted to make sure everyone heard about the content of the conversation before Jen could put her spin on it...
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:16 am
What is Dick's spin on the conersation with Jen ? Does he tell it as if he got the upper hand
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Lilviking
Member
07-19-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:17 am
Absolutely, Missyb. He's convinced that he gave Jen a piece of his mind and really put her in her place.
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Flamingo
Member
08-19-2003
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:18 am
Jen isn't running circles around anyone strategically. She plans to put up Nick for the sole reason that he is getting cosy with Daniele. Jen has alienated herself from everyone in the house with her behaviour since she entered the house, and is bound to be on the chopping block next week because of exactly that. A strong strategic player knows enough to be friendly and respectful to others in the game.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:18 am
Dick's story is that he told her how she needs to change so that people will like her. Also told her she's self-centered, and various other insults. Not much spin there, that's about what he did/said. So, I guess in his mind, he got the upper hand!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:18 am
if she puts Nick up I think Dick will go. I wish she wuold put up Zach, he was so transparent last nite talking to her in the by
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Nana731
Member
07-06-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:20 am
I'd love to see the look on Zach's face if she did put him up lol.
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Lilviking
Member
07-19-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:20 am
My concern is that if Jen were to put Nick up against Dick, and there was any way of keeping Dick in for the controversy/ratings he creates, the producers would absolutely arrange it. If the votes are close, the whole "AP" could count to their advantage.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:21 am
Flamingo, I think Jen knows everyone hates her. This does give her the upper hand right now, because she really doesn't care who goes. Everyone hates her anyway! I think she's got more strategy in her than she's given credit for. And I was not really a supporter of her before this.
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Nana731
Member
07-06-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:22 am
I sometimes wonder if they made up the AP really for us to have a vote, or an out, if the producers need to change the vote?
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Flamingo
Member
08-19-2003
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:23 am
if Jen doesn't care if everyone hates her she won't be around long enough to do anything strategically. That is the epitome of bad strategy.
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Nana731
Member
07-06-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:24 am
Flamingo, how many people liked Will in either of his seasons?
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Lilviking
Member
07-19-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:25 am
I'm with you, Rosem4243. I think Jen is looking to sever alliances, and can accomplish this by getting either Dick or Nick out of the house. She won't win any popularity contests with the move, but she knows she's not winning any the way things are. Nothing to loose, and something to gain! Pretty dang smart if you ask me.
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:26 am
Jen doesn't need a major strategy at this time. She knows she is toast for the next eviction unless she wins the POV and then the following HOH (kind of like Janelle). And, she has marked herself as the person everyone will vote out so she can be used at a later time as a nominee after someone considered a real threat is evicted( kind of like Will in BBAS, save the obvious vote out for when you need a free week. Got Wll far in All Stars). I think she has made the most of the situation she is in. And, done it well.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:26 am
A lot of times, the most hated person is kept around because they 'wont win in the end' It's happened before!
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Karnak
Member
07-06-2006
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:26 am
dick keeps saying to everyone that everyone in the house is mad at Jen, but no one else seems mad at her except Dick! No one is even ta1king about nominating her next week, Jen has done a great job of HoH this week, IMH0.
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Dfng
Member
08-04-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:31 am
I think a lot of people don't like Jen but since she is HOH and ready to nom a replacement it would be stupid of them to say anything.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:32 am
I found this @ SS. Some interesting insight from Eric's brother, except it doesn't appear that he knows Jen/Eric have something. I wish Jen would bring Jess/Eric together in her alliance, as she has an alliance with each of them. Quote: SenorX27 (7/15/07 9:35 am) For those who have any interest, here are my random musings (or ramblings depending or your view) after catching up on the late-night feeds: 1) From what I've read it appears there was a subtle but important change in the dynamic of Eric and Dick's relationship last night. First, Dick really gave Eric some really good advice re his obvious mood swings relating to slop and how others perceive it. Eric tried to blame it all on Joe but Dick let him know it went beyond that and if he didn't shut up and swallow it down next time slop is an issue for him he'll be creating reasons for people to put him up after the big targets are gone. Whether or not Eric accepted it last night, I'm sure he'll think about it. Dick also admitted to Eric that he's not sure he can really trust Amber, who he once thought he was tight with. The fact that Dick shared that concern and was really trying to help him shows that he's becoming open to working with Eric as the game goes on. Also, during Dick's roll-call at night's end Eric has moved from "can't be trusted; crazy" to "not sure how much I can trust him" which is an important move. For Eric's sake (in addition to ours), I sure hope Dick survives the week. 2) Eric has admitted that he eventually envisions himself aligned with Jameka and Jess. This is sort of where I thought he was going - but for this to work Joe must be knocked out (Dani going wouldn't hurt either, but Joe must go). I'm going to guess that Eric is envisioning the 'sequester and forward world' as having three larger camps each that interconnect at some points and have subgroups within. That said, even though he hasn't solidified anything yet (I think he knows a 'who should eric form an alliance with' AP task is coming) - he could drift to Jess/Jameka; Jen/Kail/Mike; or Dick right now. I think Dani/Nick are out of the question for now, he'd have no interest in Joe or Zach, and while I think he'd align with Dustin he won't go with Dustin/Amber. 3) If Eric were to win HOH in week 3 (and I think he'll follow his week 2 plan again - play hard until nick, dani, joe, and zach are out and then consider throwing it) - he'd put up Dustin/Amber with the intent being eliminate Amber and then if someone won POV he could substitute Joe or Dani depending on who had POV and what had gone on this week. I really hope the POV ceremony is today and not tomorrow - i find the week so much more enjoyable when i know he's 100% out of peril for the week. ----------------------------------------- Very interesting info. I didn't think BB would ask Erick to form an alliance, but perhaps they will.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:33 am
Exactly, Dfng! No one is gonna show their hand right now, until after the POV ceremony. But there ARE a lot of people in the house who don't like her, and she is definitely gonna be a target. And soon.
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Flamingo
Member
08-19-2003
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:33 am
Nana - Will was very well liked by his fellow houseguests. He was charming and friendly, and even though he had his own cliques, he made a point of having conversations with everyone in the house. He was fun to have around, which is why he stayed around so long.
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Nana731
Member
07-06-2005
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:37 am
Ok Flamingo, you and I just see it differently. I just rewatched season 2 and I sure didn't see where everyone liked him at all. Last season he went around telling them all how much he hated them. So we'll just agree to disagree, ok? lol
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 9:40 am
Jen is actually winning people over this week. Dustin took up for her in front of Dick when he was putting her down. Amber seems more tolerant of her now and is ready to boot Dick. Kail and Mike like her. Zach likes her. Joe will be happy she wasn't talked into putting him up. She should make him deal with her. Jess likes her and Eric likes her.
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