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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 5:25 pm
Hi, I was wondering what you guys think the effect of being on All Stars did for the reputations of the HG's we already had conceived for them from their original Season? I mean do we think better of them, worse, or feel the same after seeing them on allstars? I'll start. Alison - Same. She wasn't there long enough to change my opinion and didn't really act any differently from her first time. Nakomis - Same, again, she wasn't there long enough. Jase - Worse. Diane - same Kaysar - Worse. I am his fan, but he was pretty dull this time 'round Marcellas - WORSE, way worse. His novelty wore off and all I saw was a whining complainer Howie - Same, what can you say? Danielle - Worse. AT least she aligned with a good boy her first season Erika - WAY worse, 'nuff said George - Better, even after his mistakes this week. James - WORSE! OMG Janelle - Same Boogie - Again WAAAY worse Will - I think Will's rep got BETTER with the fans!
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Scarebaby
Member
07-31-2005
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 5:32 pm
I am in 100% agreement with you!!! I hated to see Kaysar be such a bore, but he was. Marcellas? Yikes! James? What a bitter and angry man he is. And Boogie, so desperate to be cool. And Will - he just keeps getting better!
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 5:43 pm
I think I got what I expected from most of them, including the ones I never liked, except for Erika. She has been a huge disappointment. It seems like she adopted the worst traits of the top two players in her season, Jun and Alison. I am sorry I voted for her.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 5:46 pm
I agree with you spear Seems like Erika disappointed a lot of us the most out of everyone She was my hope to win for her season and now I am finding myself wondering how I could have even considered it.
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Steviegirl
Member
07-07-2005
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 5:48 pm
I pretty much agree on all of them. Except maybe Danielle - I think she's about the same. Will got so much better. Last year I hated him for 50% of the season, this time I only disliked him for 5 minutes.
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Oregonguy
Member
02-12-2006
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 5:52 pm
Alison- same, not in long enough to go up or down. nakomis- same, smart player jase- started out better then regressed a little. diane- same kaysar- same, such an overrated gameplayer marc- same- still whiny howie- worse- not a good season for the manchild erika- worse- seems desperate danielle- better- didnt like her in s3. george- worse- my least fav james- worse- very whiny boogie- better- didnt like in s2. still can be mouthy but has showed some comedic moments. janelle- much better- is my second fav will- same- the absolute best big brother player ever!
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Westtexan
Member
07-16-2004
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 6:00 pm
So funny how Boogie and Will are best buds and they have such different appeal with the viewers.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 7:03 pm
Alison- smigeon better. She had no time to embarass herself and her stand against using her body this time improved her image with me. Nakomis- slightly worse. She couldn't make anything happen in her favor -shows that quite a bit of her sucess was luck to be placed with people she could work with. Not adaptable to different personalities. Jase - Same - He acted totally dispicable then, same this time. Not surprised. Diane - worse - for the same reasons as Nakomis. She's not adaptable. Kaysar- Same. Absolutely adorable human being. Pretty bad BB player. Marcellas - much, much, much worse. I wasn't exactly thrilled with him at the end of BB3 but he was really worked over by Danielle so I gave him a partial pass. This time his behavior was atrotious. He can't read anyone and always goes after those he should trust. Terrible BB player, terrible at judging people. Backstabs those who he can trust the most. Just sad. Howie- same. He's got a serious temper but is a wonderful friend. His anger was justified. Boogie was as big an a#@ as he was. Erika- much worse. She didn't get to the end last time but Alison did. Her reaction seems to be to adopt Alison's game this time around. Nothing wrong with that except the hypocrisy. She repeatedly judge Ali, now Erika is Ali. Just horrible. She's like Amber in All-stars, only worse. I would vote for anyone in the house over her at F2 if F2 was today. Danielle- About the same. I have to admire her BB skills but the way she does it is so distastful. Her demonizing really represents the worst in human nature. It's a legit BB strategy but it really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It did last time, it does this time. George - didn't watch BB1. Seemed like a wasted cast position. He has served some purpose at the end, but he's too persuadable. I'd like someone with a bit more of a position. James - worse- If he doesn't win something it is only because the other person cheated or because BB is trying to throw the game to someone else. That kind of attitude is not entertainment. Poor sport. Depends too much on demonizing. Gets really vicious, nasty, and mysoginistic with his put downs. Distastful. Has some game though. Boogie- better- I really, really, really detested him in BB2. Now I only really, really detest him. He's a dead weight being carried through the game by Will. But, he is playing better this time - he listens to Will more. Janelle - Better- I like that she plays full out. She's not afraid to win. She sticks to her alliances even when she shouldn't. (Defending James and Marcellas long after they'd both backstabbed her.) She's a terrible liar which shows she doesn't have much experience at it. Not hypocritical like Erika. I'm amazed she's made it this far. She never stays down for long. Sunny personality. Entertaining. Basically fun to watch. Has a great underdog storyline last time and this time. BB editors must love her. Will - Not sure - sometimes better, sometimes worse. I dislike that he's so good at manipulating people. I dislike that he sides with the most dispicable people in the house. I dislike that he switches sides ALL THE TIME. But, then I look at it the other way. He's STUNNINGly AMAZING at this game. He can talke anyone into anything. He's manipulated every person in the house do what he wants them to do - over and over and over again. He does bash but not to the degree the other HGs do. He usually manipulates through flattery. Not brute force, not demonizing. If I have to watch manipulation, I'd rather watch this kind. 100% adaptable. Can deal with any personality type. I'd vote for him over any other player at F2.
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Beruthiel
Member
08-07-2000
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 8:15 pm
Gina, I cosign your evaluations, I agree with just about every word, so I won't bother re-typing it all!
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Beckerz
Member
08-18-2005
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 8:52 pm
Alison - same...that's just cause she didn't have time to use her body to further herself in the game Nakomis - same Jase - same Diane - worse could have lasted longer if she aligned better Kaysar - worse should have realized last year with Jen and changed his game play a tiny bit Marcellas - worse only because instead of being forward with what he feels, he did it in the DR Howie - same Erika - worse I have my reasons, Allison #2 Danielle - better only because I don't totally hate her game play...only bits and pieces. George - better only cos he kept his mouth shut and lasted longer James - worse...I love James, I adore his game play. He should have been more on the DL with his alliances...and should have just put up CT at the very beginning. Because of these mistakes, unforuately, he's going home. Boogie - worse I hate him...okay, actually, I hate his game play. Didn't like him before, really really really dislike him now. Janelle - worse Janie has been playing the "dumb blonde" routine. Janie is a much better player than this. Last year she was great, this is it's Will this, Will that. She didn't open her eyes at the beginning and now she lost everyone because of it... Will - worse I just cannot stand his gameplay, there are better ways to win than to lie to everyone including yourself
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John32070
Member
08-10-2005
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 9:19 pm
Allison-Same annoying chatterbox. Marcelles-Worse. Should have played a much smarter game than he did. Boogie-Better. Couldn't stand him in season 2, still far from a saint, but improved, like he grew up a little. Will-Better. he's not phoning it in quite as much this time, but still skating through. Erika-Worse. As said too much whining, doesn't seem to be having fun at all. Dani-Same. George-Same and maybe a little better. Seems mentally tougher this time around. James-Worse. I'd vote him out this week just for some peace. Janelle-Same. Howie-Same. BB5ers-I didn't watch enough to compare them too back then.
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 9:23 pm
Gina and Beruthiel....AS USUAL...I DITTO...BOTH of you!!!! LOL!
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Mandana4evah
Member
07-08-2005
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 11:28 pm
Alison - same and first out for that very reason! Nakomis - same to me...I wasn't that impressed with her the first time. Jase - same he is still jase...or zach...or overly obsessed mirror face guy who is in desperate need of a stylist. Diane - same gah. I never did like her either... Kaysar - worse sadly I agree. Tho I still am enamored with King Kaysar he just didn't have the same spirit and glow that he had last season. Marcellas - worse! sadly again...I was starting to really warm up to him on housecalls and was forgetting how very catty yet dull he really is. 30 minute snippets is about all the Marci I can take...and even then he needs a co-host and a planned something to talk about. Howie - B E T T E R! woot! My man was the brains this season. scary huh? He was alert, he got what was going on, he was insightful...sadly noone listened to him. He had excellent game play towards Will especially. Was never awestruck or dumbstruck or insipid or nothing. He played Will just as well as Will plays others...as I said before, it was just sad noone listens to Howie. Danielle - worse Which shocked me, cuz I was a Dani fan...but a Dani fan no more. A very close friend of mine and I were discussing this just the other day, how I see Dani so much differently this year (as does he) and we decided we really liked Jason and Dani only seemed good with Jason, without Jason she is just...well...not good. Erika - worse if worser could get worse, she is worser than worse. But I didn't expect too much from her anyway. I never liked her after her Jee attack during her season. I certainly didn't want to see her again that's for sure. George - n/a didn't see his season...tho I will say I was warming up to Chicken George until he showed himself to be Chicken Sith. James - same He was icky last year people were you not paying attention!?! Exactly the same. Exactly as whiny, exactly as self-rightous, exactly as hypocritical and exactly as irresponsible. Feh. James. Janelle - same but better and worse I loved her last year, I love her this year! She is more of a real person this year tho...I see more of her vulnerabilities, which makes her even more endearing and also less idolize-able, which makes her even better! Last year I thought she was soooo not even approachable or she was in such a different league, like a celebrity, but this year, she just seems so down to earth and real. *shrug* I dunno...but I didn't like her lying to Kaysar (that one scene where Howie called her on what she said to do during pov comp) Boogie - worse blech Will - better that smarmy dazzle Dr. McDreamy has is working!!!
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Aus10
Member
09-28-2000
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 11:43 pm
ALL - Worse! I've turned my feeds off. I refuse to ever watch again, until BB makes then abide by the rules. No singing - I'm tired of flames! No sharing of the prize money! I want to see people who want to play the game, not people who just want face time on TV.
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Ivyeske
Member
08-21-2006
| Monday, August 21, 2006 - 11:50 pm
Janelle/Howie -better. Ali/Nakomas/George/Will/Diane-same. Erika/Dani/James/Boogie/Jase/Kaysar/Marcellas-worse
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 5:42 am
I'm pretty much same on all except Dani, Marcellus and Will. Dani/Marci I never got to know because I didn't watch their season. I loved Marci's sense of humor but didn't care for his immature attitude at times. Liking Dani a lot. Love the way she owns her gameplay and has enough self esteem to admire others. And Will...*sighs*...I loved Will in his season, thought him the best BB player ever. I was a bit nervous that maybe I had built him up in my mind over time, to something he could NEVER live up to and I would be disappointed this year. NOT!!! Now I KNOW Will is the best BB player ever and he has not only NOT disappointed me this year, he has exceeded my over inflated expectations. Even if Will loses BB7...he is still the best player this game has had so far.
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Carmenv
Member
04-14-2006
| Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 10:41 am
Alison - Same. It isn't possible for me to like her any less than I did, and no way would I ever like her, so... Nakomis - Less. I was so impressed with her in Season 5, but not so much this time around. Some aspect of her game play was missing for me, or maybe it was just that she wasn't around long enough to get going. Jase - Initially, I thought I was going to like Jase better as an all-star, and really thought he had potentially grown up. Then the real Jase reared it's ugly head...so by the time he left, is was the same old Jase for me. I still think he left too early, though. I think it would have been more interesting had he stuck around a little longer, despite the fact that I just don't care for him. Diane - Same. Still just comes across as thinking she is entitled to something for doing nothing to me. Kaysar - Worse. He is gorgeous, but I never thought he was the master of the game that a lot of people thought he was, and this season he was even worse. Will was right. This isn't the game for him. Marcellas - Worse. He cracked me up in his season, but he just annoyed me this time around. Howie - Far worse. He is so completely inappropriate and immature. It was amusing to a point last season, but this time, especially give that it is all stars, it just got old and irritating FAST. Erika - Same. I am impressed with her lasting ability in the endurance comps, but that is about it. She has nothing else to offer for me as far as game play. Danielle - Same/Worse. I really think she got screwed out of winning her season, so I really wanted her to come in to the all star house and own it. Yet I think the fact that she now THINKS she owns it is getting on my nerves... George - Better. He drove me crazy in the first season, but the guy actually grew on me...up to the point where he refused to put up Janelle, that is. I am glad Howie is gone, but what the heck was that about? That will cost him the game, not that he really ever had much chance of winning anyway. James - Same for the most part. I like him last season, wanted him to win. He was my pick to win all stars, but I'm finding him very self righteous and hypocritical this season, not to mention whiny. I was dreading his departure, but I don't think I will be sad to see him go Thursday, if that is in fact what happens. Boogie - Okay, I can't believe I'm saying this, but BETTER! I really, really, REALLY despised Chilltown in Season 2. I still think Mike is an arrogant arse with a lot of self-confidence issues, but he and Will are cracking me up this season, and this show would not be the same without them. Janelle - Worse. I was not a fan of Janelle last season, and I am not a fan this season. I have never understood what the Janie-love was and is all about, although I have to give the girl props for winning all these competitions. However, she seems really indecisive and easily manipulated this season. Will - BETTER! What can you say about Will? I was not necessarily a fan of his in Season 2, I couldn't stand Chilltown. However, he is the master of manipulation, and I can't believe he is still in that house! I just love watching the puppet master at work...}
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Cori1592
Member
07-26-2005
| Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 11:21 am
carmenv, you wrote everything i feel, thank's for saving me all that time, lol
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Realurker
Member
08-10-2004
| Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 12:32 pm
Dani, Jase, Howie, Boogie and Erika are worse Marci & James are WORSE Jani, Kaysar, Diane and Nakomis are the same Will, George & Allison are better
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Rupertbear
Member
09-19-2003
| Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 1:20 pm
My feelings haven't changed about anyone from seeing them a second time, though I will say that I have possibly thawed towards George just the tiniest skootch.
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Carmenv
Member
04-14-2006
| Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 1:28 pm
Glad someone agrees with me, Cori1592! :-) Most people would argue with my assessment of Janelle, I'm afraid....
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Bigbrotherbelle
Member
07-08-2006
| Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 1:50 pm
Everybody worse except Nakomis who is the same and Will - better - I watched S2 and thought he was hyped up way too much as the best player ever... he is earning his keep this time. Janie - better - I'm impressed that she's holding her own, whooping butt in comps, and she has a few strategic moves up her sleeve.
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Bomom
Member
08-12-2006
| Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 2:11 pm
Everybody about the same except: Kayser: A disappointment as a game player. Just not cut out for this type of game. Still an admirable guy. Marcellus: Did not think I could like him any less. I stand corrected. Erika: A total disappointment. What has happened to that woman??? Boogie: Moved up a tiny notch this time, probably because of association with Will. Janelle: Has to gain my respect as a tenacious pedal-to-the-metal competitor. I am also more impressed this time by her blind trust and inability to suck up to people. It may be her downfall. Will: Just as entertaining as ever, The Master Player. If he ever became a politician he'd either be dangerous or save the world. I also think we've even seen a more sensitive, human side of Will this time as he has developed a friendship with Janelle that was lacking in his relationships in BB2. Probably a peek at the Real Will outside of the BB house.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Monday, August 28, 2006 - 1:35 pm
Dani's reputation took a big hit yesterday. I've been a little surprised at how emotional she's been but I thought she has mostly saved it for the DR or solitary. I'm really surprised she reacted that way to the realization that she was going to go up. I wasn't a fan but I thought she was a much better player than that. She did a good job keeping her cool after being nominated in week 1 but it seems her game has steadily deteriorated after winning HOH. Well, she's not out yet and has three days to try and recover but it's not looking good.
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