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Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 9:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
I think whoever makes it to the end and the jury gives the most votes for deserves to win.

We might not like how they got to the end, but they out played 12 other people and are sitting in the winners seats.

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 9:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
Therapy aside, Erika played a better floater game. She never really had to shif to the power because she was always "with " the Sov4 and they had the first 4 HOH's. She did not need to make any decisive votes because it was way to early in the game. Anybody who was evicted brought her one step closer. In fact the evcitions all worked her way, Alison (bog threat), Nakomis (way to smart and could screw her up later),Jase (a big threat) and Diane ( a later threat in endurance). Then she had to play. Her biggest deicision for herself was not bending to Dani's will and voting James out. She clearly told Dani that keeping CG was a better move for her. There was no waffling there. It was decisive and done. Putting Dani up,she wasn't the one who wanted to do it but, at the end of the day, she did and further advanced herself. Saving her self from two more evictions is pretty convincing stuff. She convinced George to put up Howie. I may not like her style, I hate the begging to both George and Janelle) but she got the job done. She actually made game moves.
She deserves the win.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Zachsmom, that was what I was just about to say! I think whoever wins, deserves to win.

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
The most deserving player never wins BB. Even in Will's season, other people won more competitions and played the game portion harder.

Big Brother is a living illustration of the Peter Principle. If you're too good, you're axed.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I don't want to see either of them get the money. I think it might be more satisfying to see him not get it.. thus for her to get it.

Last night hs said whichever of us wins should buy the other one a nice present. He can hope but I suspect he knows deep down that she will have family and friends telling her NOT to share anything with him. Hopefully she will listen and not be SO drawn to the BAD BOY thing.

He also assured her that he would pull strings so that they could both have more people there for the finale and wrap party. He opined that they shouldn't waste seats on people who just want to be there to brush with the famous.. they've talked about inviting her mother, brother, friend Erika and then maybe more people for her. He said people like Will don't have many people to invite but he and Erika are different (ed read better) and will need to have more people.

We'll see. In the past it seems the winners get three people max (Ivette had mom, dad and gf, maggie had parents and fiance, drew had parents and brother.. but even some finalists had jusst two. Some non finalists had up to two guests.

One thing Boogie did win was that coup d'etat and while it mostly fizzled, he actually got leverage out of simply threatening to use it, especially with George. In a way it was unfair that George couldn't know he was safe himself as HOH.. but he did win that. And he did win final HOH and take the hit on Janelle.

I think he will win.

Dani's mom said something interesting that Dani said to her something to the effect that it was like Lisa all over again, so I think at that time Dani was not finding Erika to be deserving. We know Will is working for Boogie and it will be interesting to see what Janie is thinking.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Bastable, excellent point and very true. That is a repeated mantra.. "so and so is to good.. they have to GO" and Boogie actually said it to Janelle as he evicted her. Of course that is also a ploy to get a vote.

Dusty
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08-15-2005

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dusty a private message Print Post    
Dustin, you find the best ones! Thanks :-)

Dragon
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09-05-2006

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 9:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dragon a private message Print Post    
I'm really, really afraid we are going to be sickened on Tuesday night when we find out that Erika and Mike are a real couple who had a deal with BB (like the work-out twins did two seasons ago) to see if they could make it to the end together with no one the wiser. CBS learned their lesson back then about revealing that kind of twist to us. Think how shocked we are going to be! Mike keeps talking about a twist and they both keep talking about what a great show this is (GAG!) I hope I am wrong. I'm not sure whether I think Will was in cahoots or whether he was also being played?

Between Erika and Mike--I support Erika all the way. I'll bet after a kiss from Mike, you need a towel. Erika should win on that fact alone!

Babsbunny3
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07-28-2005

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 10:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babsbunny3 a private message Print Post    
Personally I could not be happier seeing Janelle hit the door. YAY!!!!

Some people like myself see her as a floater, (First w/ S6, then CT, then Erica...hmmm) she constantly baby talked or batted eyes at whoever was in power (when it wasn't her) and these are ALL STARS she is playing with; they are not stupid. Half of them were not even trying to win comps.

I think her "comp record" is skewed due to the fact that she admitted several times winning comps is what she prides herself on and it was her whole strategy besides using the sexy little girl schtick. When some comps are thrown to you and in half the HOH comps you have most of the HG not wanting the power/target, it is probably pretty darn easy to win.

She is no better than anyone else in my book.

Some like to put Janie on a pedestal, but I think she was dumb to keep targeting her own self over and over by winning everything she could win. What All Star would have been dumb enough to take her to F2? Perhaps Howie but she made sure her little boyfriend got rid of him.

She got what she deserved, and so will the winner. Besides, CBS has figured out that the entire planet is about to implode because sweet and innocent little Janie didn't win BB, so they are going to throw her a bone w/ the 25 grand.

At least I can be happy knowing she will not be a BB winner.

Rentlady22
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09-19-2005

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rentlady22 a private message Print Post    
Hey Babs, do you dislike Janie so much? Granted some people have placed her on a pedestal like she was the greatest there ever was, but that your happiness is based on the fact that she was voted out, is a tad strange to me. I don't post much, I mostly just read the posts, but you are always so negative concerning Janie. Please don't take this personnally, as we are all entitled to our own opinions. It just seems so one sided.

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
I personally take strategy and game play posts more seriously when they spell the names of the contestants correctly. Erika has been in the house for more than two months, and she never had a 'c' in her name.

Babsbunny3
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07-28-2005

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babsbunny3 a private message Print Post    
Bastable I am so ashamed of my mispelling Erika's name. That is really awful.

*Sorry*

Boy do I feel dumb after getting corrected like that. Geez.

Rentlady22...some people are so obsessed w/ Janie that they truly believe everything she says and does is the work of a higher being. Are they "strange" to you?

How about the Janie/Will Superbaby obsession or the incest fantasies. 'Strange' to you?

Guess not.

We can have a gazillion positive posts about Janelle but one or two negative ones get called out on the carpet. It is so stupid.

Rentlady, it should be ok for me to not like someone on TV. It is an opinion and there are some people on this earth who are not fans of Janelle. It is going to be OK.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I fully understand why some people don't care for Janelle or her gameplay.

Personalities clash...heck there are some people I know who simply breathe and I get peeved. Its just the way it is.

But I don't feel a sense of "satisfaction' or validation of my negative feelings when something doesn't go right for the person I don't like.

I don't understand the "You got what you deserved because I can't stand you" attitude.

But eh...maybe I'm not supposed to...and that dear friends is a good thing.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
Personally, I have admired Babsbunny3 all summer long, for standing up a speaking her opinion in spite of the personal remarks calling her sanity if not her character into question. She has stood firm in the overpowering wake of the Janie love.

Her criticism of Janelle pales in comparison to that leveled at James, and yet she is the one people point fingers at for unreasonable hatred. It's not in my nature to focus on the negative aspect of someone's personality, or I would have been right there with her.

I will however certainly stand up for her right to her speak her opinion without having to defend herself in the process. She dislikes Janelle. I'm not nuts about her either. Believe it or not she's not everyone's cup of tea, and it has nothing to do with jealousy. Can we please put that old song to rest?

Rentlady22
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09-19-2005

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rentlady22 a private message Print Post    
To answer your question Babs yes I fully think that those individuals who are living their fantasies thru Janelle/Will or any one are slightly in need of professional help. I also don't believe the sun rises and sets in Janelle. As for a "few" negative posts, that may be true but again, we are all entitled to our opinion and I have no problem with the fact that you seem in intensely dislike Janelle, Myself, I watch BB to enjoy the interplay between the people and the way they work different situations. I don't like nor dislike any of them. I feel some had better game play then others. Will/Boogie had a phenominal stradgety(?) that might have worked if the two ladies didn't talk, but that's neither here nor there. Boogie and Erika are the 2 and 1 of them will win like it or not.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Seamonkey it IS Lisa all over again--I was just going to post that! I had a feeling a while back because Erika reminded me of Lisa so much. That's just what happens. It's a game and whoever is left standing deserves to win. I personally am happy that it's Boogie and Erika because it's a less predictable final two than Will and Janelle would have been. I like to be surprised.

Cini
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09-07-2006

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cini a private message Print Post    
How worried are you about Erikas state of mind when she sees what Boogie has been saying about her?

Spear
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08-06-2001

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
There's some amount of luck associated with winning competitions so the best player cannot always avoid getting voted out before F2. Someone like Will can do a lot without winning but sometimes, you really need to have immunity or at least have the "right" people winning HOH or POV.

Between the F2, whether the winner is more deserving than the other one depends on whether the jury is fair. However, one could argue that if a player manages to stack the jury with people biased in their favor, then that player deserves the win. I guess this is why people disagree on whether Lisa really deserved to win over Dani.

Even then, if a bunch of jury members decided that they didn't care and just used a coin toss (or "choose a number") to determine the winner, then it's hard to argue that the winner really deserved it.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 12:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I want boogie to win if only for the fact that in terms of dollars Erika would then come in third,

Boogie 500k
Janelle: 55k (30 + 25)
Erika 50k

Sweet revenge

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 1:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I don't think there is any comparison between Erika and Lisa. Based on level of strategy and game play, Erika is far superior.

Lisa's record was one HOH win when it didn't count at all (the first one) and that was given to her. As far as I can recall she did nothing of significance to affect the game at all, up until the end when she won the final HOH and took Dani to the end with her. Plus the only reason that she likely won even after that was that the jury wasn't sequestered.

Erika has won key POVs and HOHs, she changed alliances at appropriate points throughout the game and she influenced the voting. Her move to convince Janelle to vote out Will instead of her was very good manipulation. She arguably defeated the best player in BB history at his own game. Plus she finished at the end with one of the few players she may have a chance to beat.

Rubyroo77
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08-13-2005

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rubyroo77 a private message Print Post    
Maris- I am with you! I never, ever thought I would want Boogie to win..but I don't like how Erika broke her promise to Janie...and personally..I think Boogie played a better game..

Biloxibelle
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12-21-2001

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biloxibelle a private message Print Post    
Ahhh Robert, I had almost forgotten about him. He and Erika did dance beautifully together though.

Not sure about Erika's choice in men. Didn't Robert also always have a finger jammed up his nose?

Cheekychops
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08-12-2005

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheekychops a private message Print Post    
Yes Biloxibelle, he looked like a ferret too. Boogie also resembles a furry animal.

Willsfan
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09-04-2000

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Willsfan a private message Print Post    
I want Erika to win because if Mike wins then the "banana bread" (prize money) will be divided into two or three slices. I don't like that idea at all, but apparently it's not against BB rules to bribe other HGs. It should be. BB did tell them to shut up about it a few times so it's not something BB wants them to do.
I read somewhere, and correct me if I'm wrong that money won could not be given to other HGs for 6 or 7 years.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Friday, September 08, 2006 - 3:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
If mike wins doesnt janelle get a piece of the banana bread? so she would get a third of the banana bread, her 30 k and also the cbs favorite prize of 25k. not bad. It will also be fun to watch Booge weasel out of the banana bread deal.

The way boogie worked the deal was he wouldnt give his partners "cash" but pieces of a new restaurant business.