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Boberg
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10-04-2002

Monday, August 28, 2006 - 2:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
Kep421...totally agree with what you said about the Greatest BB player ever...the half man/half amazing Dr. Will!!!
He has made this the best season ever for me and like you said...he has exceeded my expectations. I too was afraid I had him so built up in my head it would be a dissapointment...BUT...NOT AT ALL!!

Allison- same- but admire her willingness to try again.

Nicomus-same=never cared for her.

Jase- slightly improved only because he was initially toned down..more mature

Diane- worse= she had no game this time

Marcellas=worse= he reinforced my opinion he is way to in love with himself.

Howie=worse=same game as last year..he needed to bring some surprises but had none..left in a poor manner.

James=worse=most negative gameplay ever, blew it by not being able to get over last year. BUT props for his last night in the house and complete sportsmanship way he left.

Danielle= worse= she brought sneakiness to new heights in S3, with lots of fun and humor..this year she took herself to seriously, used too much intimidation and made herself look ugly to me.

Erica=same=thought she was boring then..no change in opinion except her showmance is going to be an embarrassment!

Boogie-slightly better=still dont like him but he is a little less concieted this year.

Chicken George-better=admire his great attitude and ability to go with the flow..Heck he is still there...you never know!

Janelle=even better=love her comptitiveness, can back up her big talk, loyal, beautiful smile and laugh...one of the first to really talk to CG without complaining what a sacrifice it was. Kind heart.

Kaysar=worse=if it is possible..he was an even worse BB player this year than last...nice guy but I want him on the other guys team...lol

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Monday, August 28, 2006 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
One more person I would like to comment on:

Eric/Cappy=better=totally admire he had the guts to come in to do a HG event after the fall out from last year. I can always appreciate a good sport.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, September 04, 2006 - 6:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Okay... I have to change my opinion on Boogie

Since my last post above, my opinion of Boogie has slid OFF the hill and deep into the lake.

I really didn't have much of an opinion of Boogie in BB2, 'cause he wasn't there long enough and I didn't pay much attention to him. I thought the proposal on live tv was a tad cheesey ...but didn't think much else about him.

Have to now say I don't care for him at all. My opinion of this guy is so far past cheesey it's reached the mold stage.

I can't really say my true feelings for this man's actions in the house as none of you would get to read them anyway.... so suffice to say that Boogie is my least favorite BB player of ALL TIME....

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Monday, September 04, 2006 - 6:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
LOL Kep421..your above post made me curious as to what you has said earlier so:

I scrolled back to see what you had said before about Boogie ("I'm pretty much the same on all except")...lol...thats it all I could find that could possible relate to him..

LOL...guess you had to get it on the record huh?

I so totally agree with you tho...did you see him and Erica talking last nite when he told of his vision walking out that door The Winner...the cheers, looks on peoples faces....too funny...what an overinflated ego he has...IMHO

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, September 04, 2006 - 6:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Haven't gotten there yet Boberg....but I'm sure my tummy will turn when I do...blech

Mizinvanccouver
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02-22-2003

Monday, September 04, 2006 - 7:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mizinvanccouver a private message Print Post    
After the past few days, my feelings towards Will and Boogie have changed.

I was surprised he was stooping so low as to say bad things about Janelle; making it 'personal'. Before, I respected his game because he kept it on a 'game level' without making it 'personal'. Now it's just ugly how he talks about her to us or in the DR then does the opposite to her face.

Boogie, well I didn't like him at the beginning but I didn't think I could dislike him MORE now! HOw's that possible I asked myself?? Well here's how, it's one thing to use Erika to get to the end, but to give her false hope that they would have a relationship outside the house is just wrong in my opinion.Even he said so in his DR speech last night.

Mush
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09-09-2002

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mush a private message Print Post    
Erika -- used to like her, mostly because of her friendship with Jack. This year, I can't stand her. I thought that I'd end up feeling sorry for her with the Operation Double Date thing, but since she's decided that she hasn't been played, in spite of all the evidence that she presented to Janie, she deserves what she gets.

Dani -- Didn't like her game play in S3 since she seemed to feel that she had to villify the target to get them voted off, but she didn't do that this year and she ended up being my favorite. She really has redeemed herself.

Will / Mike -- I didn't watch S2 in protest for the big changes from S1, which I loved. They did exactly what I expected them to do, based on what I'd read about S2. Will was the mastermind and was great at manipulation and Mike just did what he was told (and not always very well).

Janie (and all of S6) -- They were just ok last year and the same this year.

BB -- Hated that so many of the comps were trivia contests. I really wish they would take a fresh look at the game and make some basic changes instead of the little twists that don't mean much. They really haven't changed anything since they added the golden POV (which is getting old), and it's time to learn from their mistakes. There are a lot of great ideas from people on this board!

2addicted
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07-17-2006

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send 2addicted a private message Print Post    
Wow-- read through all the posts and almost completely agree with Gina's analysis- Well said.

My only differences: I think Jase was (somehow) even worse this season. I think Kaysar was worse only bc his heart was not in it this year.

You are right about Will. He played a nearly flawless game up until the end when he made a fatal error. His feelings for Janie took him out of the game. When he felt Janie shutting down after Erika got to her he was sad and scared and couldn't muster the strength to counteract Erika's poison.

I'm glad that he didn't go into "puppetmaster mode" and lie to Janie. His only chance would have been to be completely honest and level with Janie-- Tell her the truth. Instead, I think he basically gave up.

All in all- even if it isn't ending the way I would have liked (Janie & Will F2) I think this was a riveting BB season despite the flaws that Mush points out above.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
I may run a list later (still catching up on last nite) but might I point out one thing for those of you saying that Kaysar is worse. Please think of how he played at the very beginning. Then he clearly got the news that a close friend died and was truly torn between staying and going and why was he even there. I feel this factored very heavily on both him and his game play and I don't think it's fair to judge him because of this. Put yourself in his shoes. A game does pale in comparison to something like that.

Sadly I feel he was just getting his head back into BB when he got the boot. But he started off playing a much smarter game and he had been close to 100% accurate in the beginning in figuring out WTF was going on.

Toko
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08-27-2005

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 11:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toko a private message Print Post    
Alison - Same, even though hiding in the pot didn't do much for her rep, lol.

Nakomis - Same, which isn't bad in her case. Love Nakomis.

Jase - Beyond worse, but how did he manage to get worse than his BB5 performace? Who knows. Should not have been in All-Stars

Diane - Worse. Too whiny and didn't bring it.

Kaysar - Worse. He wasn't in the game due to outside reasons, but I can respect that.

Marcellas - WORSE. NO QUESTION. He probably lost any fans he had gained over the years. Bye bye, Housecalls!

Howie - Same. We all know what we expected and that's what we got. Boobies!

Danielle - Worse. Gameplay was simply atrocious and she does not deserve the best player to never win title. Being allied with James, willingly? You gotta be kidding. Too many mistakes.

Erika - The worst of the lot. Jack is too good for you and Kaysar is NOT your boy.

George - Better. One of the few to not take this game seriously.

James -

Janelle - Better. Had a damn huge target and made it to F3 twice in a year? Ok, that's it. <3 Janie

Boogie - Well.. same.

Will - Better (without the showmance).

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gina8642 a private message Print Post    
I never liked Erika to begin with, but my opinion of her plummets to new depths daily. Her delusions of grandeur inspire both pity and disgust from me.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Will - thought he was meaner this year, particularly in his attitude towards women.

Boogie - same - pretty low

Diane - bitter, I liked her in her year, not this year.

Jase - never liked him, glad to see him booted out. I love watching the arrogant get thrown under the bus.

CG - liked him until he broke his word to Howie. He is quite similar to Erika in terms of willingness to compromise everything to get to the end.

Howie - liked him but glad he went when he did, gets old listening to him go on about boobies. Liked his exit though.

James - never liked him - this year no different

Danielle - never liked her - this year no different.

Erika - never liked her - this year she disgusts me.

Marcellas - used to like him a lot, this year I thought he was pathetic. He is getting a little long in the tooth to be playing the diva.

Kaysar - loved Kaysar but this year was no different than the last year, guy was absolutely clueless about how to play Big Brother but saw himself as a master strategist. he did call one thing right though, should have gotten rid of the floaters right off the top.

Alison - girl just cracks me up, every time. her own worst enemy.

(I bet if Monica and Dana were in the house like I voted for, it would have been a whole different game)

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
Maris ~ no Janelle analysis?

Zanken
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05-14-2006

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zanken a private message Print Post    
Wow Maris...get outta my head!

Maris
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03-28-2002

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Janelle, I was a fan of hers from day one last year. I like how she plays the game and I know she is totally gullible and Will is right, its all about the last person to talk to her because she can be swayed by a good story.

Still she is fun to watch, never took it too seriously until Howie was evicted.

Spygirl
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04-23-2001

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
Alison - Same
Nakomis - Better
Diane - WORSE
Jase - WORSE (didn't think that was possible)
Kaysar - Same
Marcellas - Worse
Howie - Worse
James - WORSE
Danielle - Better
Chicken George - Better
Will - Same
Janelle - Same
Erika - WAY WORSE
Boogie - WORSE


Beruthiel
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08-07-2000

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beruthiel a private message Print Post    
You know what's ironic? Janelle's 'gullibility' is a symptom of her always hoping for the best in people, she hasn't yet become cynical, and for me, that's as much part of her charm as anything else about her personality. She's a great young woman, and it'll be a shame when, or if, she finally gives up looking for the good in everyone. I don't want a hurt and hardened Janie. My heart cracked just a little when she said to Erika that she'd never been played before.

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
Alison - same
Nakomis - same - always liked her
Diane - worse, more whiney
Jase - same (had hope for a bit but turned out he was still Jase)
Kaysar - same but more boring without the Janie crush going on
Marcellas - much worse,<MG>
Howie - about the same - I love Howie. He's a great friend and loyal but a bit too much at times
James - worse, still untrustworthy <MG>
Dani - a bit worse, I loved her on her season, this year I didn't like her at times but still thought she was a real player
Chicken George - ?? didn't watch his season
Will - MUCH BETTER!! I didn't think I'd like Will but he sucked me in with his charm eventually
Janie - Didn't think it was possible to love her more but I did!!
Boogie - same - never liked him
Erika - WAY, WAY, WAY WORSE - she's all the way at the bottom - and I had liked her on her season but it must just have been because of Jack. Now she is at the bottom of my BB list altogether.

Tissy
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07-28-2003

Monday, September 11, 2006 - 4:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tissy a private message Print Post    
You know what's ironic? Janelle's 'gullibility' is a symptom of her always hoping for the best in people, she hasn't yet become cynical, and for me, that's as much part of her charm as anything else about her personality. She's a great young woman, and it'll be a shame when, or if, she finally gives up looking for the good in everyone. I don't want a hurt and hardened Janie


So so true !!!

Janies qualities are worth far more to her in life than any title of BB Allstars winner or 500,000 !!

At least she can hold her head up high, which is more than can be said for quite a few of those so called `players` !

Polypody
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04-16-2003

Monday, September 11, 2006 - 5:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Polypody a private message Print Post    
Alison - Same

Nakomis - same, always liked her..was not given a chance this time.

Diane - same, didn't like her last time

Jase - same, <MG>

Kaysar - worse, didn't even try

Marcellas - worse, what's his problem?

Howie - Worse, Will jealous of Howie and Howie had no new material

James - worse, honed his betrayal skills and likes to fight with girls..too much hero worship of Chill Town

Danielle - Same...didn't like her methods last time either...<MG>
Chicken George - Same...liked his crazy ways way back when too

Will - Better. was not a favorite of mine last time but he did gain some points for loving Janelle

Janelle - Same That girl has an inner light..no matter what she does, we love her. She makes me laugh too...would love to see her and Will in future..

Erika - WORSE ..liked her last time <MG>

Boogie ..Better..but not much....<MG>


Wow...sounds like I didn't like many of the all stars to begin with and that's true this year..but it has been a great show...lots of fun, love and suspense...

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Monday, September 11, 2006 - 5:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seabreeze a private message Print Post    
Boogie-His rep went downhill for me.
Erika_ I liked her with Jack, but she reached down to deep dark depths with Boogie...blech.
Janelle- Smarter than she acts, nice
Will-Most of the time he is honest. Respect that he tells people when he is lying. Don't understand why he hangs with the boogie
Dani-her rep went down with the drinking and slamming of people
Howie-his rept went down
James- Showed true colors and poor sportsmanship
Mar-EGO centric, two faced rep, used to like him, not anymore
Diane- feel sorry for her both seasons
Nic- no feelings.
Kaysar- does not know how to play the game after 2 season
George-funny but I would not allow myself to be degraded as he did.
Allison- did not like her play either season

Kaili
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08-31-2000

Monday, September 11, 2006 - 6:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
Alison - Not much difference since she was gone so fast. I didn't like her.

Nakomis - Not much difference since she was gone so fast. I liked her. Wish she had gotten in with a different group this season and stuck around.

Diane - I liked her last time- I didn't have any problem with her this time. I wish she'd lasted longer too.

Jase - Despised him last time (and am still haunted by him & Holly together- ick!), I didn't mind him the first week or so this time then I was ready for him to go so he went at a good time I think.

Kaysar - I liked him both years for who he is, but not at all as a player. I think he may be one of the worst BB players ever. This year he was really a non-entity in my opinion. I didn't like him any less, but he really was a waste of a spot on the show.

Marcellas - Never liked him- actually I don't really know how to express quite how much I don't like him....but it got worse this year.

Howie - I liked him last year, but he really is coming out of this year poorly. It's the tanrums. With April last year I didn't mind as much, but he had no restraint this year and I'm sick of hearing his ugly comments about everyone. That wasn't just sequester- I remember his nasty DRs about Nakomis and her being ugly. Unnecessary and mean.

James - He's a different one. I wanted to like him last year and I wanted to like him this year. But he makes it hard. I think he's a fun player to watch and makes a great contestant, but I would never trust him if I knew him.

Dani - I have a lot od respect for her, especially in her first season. I thought she was smart, funny, and that she should have won. This year she was a little sloppy- I still liked her, but her play wasn't there.

Chicken George - He seeemd the same old George to me. He wasn't a favorite of mine ever, but I never disliked him. The costumes thing I think is dumb but whatever.

Will - I hated him for most of his season. I couldn't stand Chill Town and I couldn't stand Shannon. I'll admit it. I liked Nicole. By the end of his season, I liked him too and I think I ended up pulling for him to win by the very end. I liked him this year too- just would have liked him better without Boogie I think.

Janie - I've always thought she was awesome.

Boogie - Never liked him but I think I could stand him more this time than last time.

Erika - I liked her in her season. Maybe because I disliked the others more though. Maybe because she was outcast and with Jack mostly that season. She didn't impress me any more this time than last.

Glasgurl
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09-18-2005

Monday, September 11, 2006 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glasgurl a private message Print Post    
This looks fun so I'll give it a go...

Allison - Better, I like Allison somewhat. Not that I would want to hang with her but I appreciate the girl for knowing what she has and how to use it. The thing that weakens her power is that she is fairly transparent. She is everything everyone says about her but it's not like she's hiding it or anything.

Nakomis - Still love her, but she's not good at this game. She is very lacking in the kind of social skills it takes to win at BB.

Jase - I find him amusing although a bit hard to stomach at times. My opinion of him didn't change at all.

Diane - Same, not much respect for the girl because she has no self-esteem and plays the "poor me" card too much.

Kaysar - Same, adore him as a person but don't think he's a good game player. Makes me like him even more tho.

Marcellas - Like him even less. I never liked him before and I really dislike him now. He's got no class. Trash talks anyone and everyone and not in a funny way, he's really cruel with his words and thoughts. Needs more than just his mouth washed out with soap.

Howie - Howie, Howie, Howie...what can I say? I adore this guy, the bug lug. He's so loyal and goes full-out when he believes in someone. Sure, the boobies thing would get annoying but this guy is just a sweetie in my book. Wouldn't want to get on his bad side...lol.

James - Same, never liked him. Still don't. He's dull, <MG>, he's too negative.

Dani - Not sure. I have always liked Dani. Her DR sessions were hilarious last time, this time, not so much. She's great at the game and I think an outstanding person in RL. I think I feel the same about her as last time although the flip-out that she did when she was getting nommed lowered her a bit in my book. Not so much tho, it was a very nasty way to get nommed as Erika clearly told her that she was safe and then stabbed her in the back.

George - Same. He played the same game didn't he? The dress up thing rather annoyed me.

Will - Better. I like him even more than before and think he definitely is the best player at this game - bar none. He's amazing and what really amuses me is that I think he's so great at manipulation that I'm certain he could even have me running round in circles doing his dirty work if I were in the house. He's great fun, a great player and really exemplifies the best that Reality Television has to offer.

Janelle - Better. I love her even more. She's a very sweet girl with the purest spirit of any of the rest. Wish she could have won but her trusting nature has been her downfall. She will do well in life tho and that's her sweetest revenge.

Erika - Worse. I really liked her in her season and was sad to see her go. This season even her voice annoys me. Am I the only one that hates the shape of her mouth when she's talking? She didn't seem to have any redeeming qualities this time around. Hate the way she backstabbed Janie after Janie singlehandedly kept her in the game.

Boogie - Same. Hated him then, hate him now. Actually, hate him a bit more. If it weren't for Will, Boogie would be as boring as an unsalted saltine. <MG>

Survivoraddict
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09-02-2005

Monday, September 11, 2006 - 7:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Survivoraddict a private message Print Post    
Allison - still hate her (why was she an All Star again?)

Nakomis - take her or leave her which is how I felt at the begining of the season anyway

Diane- too much whining, not enough game playing (she had to have been a producers pick! yuck)

Jase - he acted like a drunken frat boy. since I didn't really remember him from the first time, my opinion of him couldn't really change

Kaysar - still love 'em, but was dissapointed at his un All Star approach, and lack of game play (though he can hardly be blamed. I read somewhere else one of his friends died either while the shows started airing or right before)

Marcellas - was I watching a different TV from the rest of America? I didn't see what was so bad about him then (other then he tends to fly off the handle at times) and I still don't see what was so bad about him now.

Howie - this had to have been Howie unplugged. Still blinded by the love I had for the guy watching S6, I couldn't ignore how much stranger (for lack of a better word) he was acting this year

James - I think he can be trusted as long as you have his back. Janelle made a huge mistake by doing him wrong. If you're on his good side, James will work for you. It's only when the HG's started lining up against him that we saw him being sneaky and manipulative ( which is what I love about him, he dishes out just deserts to those who deserve it)

Dani - Not one of my favorites, but I gained more respect for her this year

Chicken George - when he agreed to go on slop for the rest of the game, I couldn't root for anyone else. No one else wanted it that bad. I gained a lot more respect for him, and he became one of my favorite players this year

Will - the ultimate game player!I thought he was a hottie then and still think he is (in kind of a gothic johnny depp in Sleepy Hollow kind of way)
I love how brilliantly his brain works (although you can't help but wonder how his gf outside the house was feeling about the flirtmance thing with Janelle).

Janelle - this year I've hated her. I loved her last year, but she's let all her ugly out this time around

Erica - gag me!! If I have to look at this floater one more time I'm going to ralph. She pretended to play but didn't. <MG> and I can't understand why the heck she wasn't gone before Week 1! Yuck. That is why my vote is for ....

Boggie - I believed then he was Will's sidekick, and he proved he can't play without Will there. My like of him has basically been the same. Even still - GO BOOGIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!