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Westtexan
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07-16-2004

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Westtexan a private message Print Post    
Are there any other previously enormous Dr. Will fans who are becoming disenchanted with him lately?

I loved him by the end of season 2 and have been nostalgic about him ever since. I was so excited he was going to be on All Stars and have been giddily watching him manipulate everyone hoping he would make it to the end. I have defended him to my friends who detest him and his overly cocky ways.

BUT NOW... I'm getting a bad taste in my mouth. I don't like what has happened the last 2 or 3 shows. He is way too arrogant and becoming dismissive and disrespectful in his talk in the DR about the girls (not nearly so bad as the other guys, but there is an air of chauvinism). I think in this game almost anything is acceptable to win (lies, manipulation, broken promises) but I do not ever agree with these tacky "showmances" if someone's emotions are involved. His encouraging Mike to romance Erica when he knows Mike can barely stand her is cruel. His attitude about Janelle is confusing and I'm becoming uncomfortable with it. It's just heartless to toy with someone's heart.

I know it probably won't happen, but I am rooting for Janelle to kick his butt to the curb and win this thing. I would love a final two of Erica and Janelle.

(I'm disappointed because I really enjoyed my memories of Will and now they are tarnished. It's like when you can't wait for a sequel to a much loved book or movie and the sequel sucks.)

Newbutcrazed
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07-16-2006

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 7:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Newbutcrazed a private message Print Post    
sequel definately sucks. He didnt seem so desperate to win, so prone to cruelty or so in love with boogie the first time

Alliet
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07-11-2005

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 7:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alliet a private message Print Post    
The cruelest twist, IMO, is the baby talk with Erika. Encouraging her to think that there is a future with Boogie that will include marriage and children goes beyond the bounds of what is acceptable in order to win this game. Goes into the realms of Johnny Fairplay's gameplan on Survivor.

The woman is on the rebound and is hearing her biological clock pounding in her ears and this recent turn of events that include baby planning is beyond cruel. All the while Boogie is wanting her booted and Will practically chewed off his own thumb in order to prevent Erika from winning that last POV competition.

Shameful behaviour from, allegedly, two grown men.

Westtexan
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07-16-2004

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Westtexan a private message Print Post    
Shameful behaviour from, allegedly, two grown men.

Two grown men over the age of 30, one of which is a doctor, supposedly intelligent but where is their maturity? Maturity includes having compassion for other people's feelings.

There talk about other HG is telling, too. Picking about others' appearances and bland personalities is shallow and immature. I miss Kaysar.

Mssas
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08-04-2006

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 7:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mssas a private message Print Post    
Would you trust Will as your Doctor???

Penguin
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09-08-2005

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Penguin a private message Print Post    
Didn't like Dr. Will before and don't like him even more now!

Kerster
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06-25-2006

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kerster a private message Print Post    
I loved Will and was surprised he wasn't one of AC to go back in the house. Then, I was glad the producers chose him. Now, he makes me feel a little sick.

To be honest, I didn't care if he was playing Janelle or not, after all it was a game, but I agree that he has gone too far. And Erika is really being played. All the baby talk is just cruel.

<MG>

Meagain
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07-20-2005

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Meagain a private message Print Post    
I still love Will.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
No, I still love him and hope him and mike make it to the end.

Westtexan
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07-16-2004

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Westtexan a private message Print Post    
I didn't mind Will playing Janelle because I thought she was playing him, too, and it was really just harmless flirting, blossoming friendship. But something is happening now that I can't quite put my finger on. Something is not right. Just like when all the other friendships (that's what I see as W and J's relationship, just friends) start going sour and hard feelings start to rise.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
I have never, ever been enamoured of Will or his game play in either of the two seasons he's been on the show.

As far as I'm concerned it takes a person with a decided lack of remorse, compassion, empathy and a huge sense of entitlement to play the game in the manner he has chose both times.

Westtexan
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07-16-2004

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Westtexan a private message Print Post    
Well, Meagain and Zachsmon, maybe I'll get back on the bandwagon but right now I'm feeling disappointed. I do miss loving and rooting for Will and really don't want to be disenchanted with him. I'm hoping something will turn around for me. (I never cared for Mike so no big loss there.)

Beebee
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08-20-2005

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beebee a private message Print Post    
I'm still holding onto my "middling" position of Will's gameplay this year. Still going by "hate the game, not the player" mentality.

When I tuned in this am around 4AMish BB time, he was tossing and turning and couldn't get to sleep at all last night after the little staring match with Jani from their separate beds. And, his telling her not to leave the room, I'm lonely, etc. Sooo, I'm holding out hope that Jani is holding his feet to the fire, that he is just as confused about his feeling for Jani and I am, and it's starting to take a toll on him.....Just maybe Dr. Kirby has met his true match after all......lol.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
Well, IMHO, Will is playing his 'showmance' like he wants Mike to play his.

If the women can't see that after how many years of BB, that's their problem.

Janelle is playing Will just as much as Will is playing Janelle.

I think Erika is the only one who honestly has feelings for Mike.

Beebee
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08-20-2005

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beebee a private message Print Post    
As far as I'm concerned it takes a person with a decided lack of remorse, compassion, empathy and a huge sense of entitlement to play the game in the manner he has chose both times.

And sometimes it takes a person (actor) who possesses all those good qualities in real life to effectively put the opposite to use in "game play" or acting.

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scorpiomoon a private message Print Post    
Oh, I totally love Will and how ruthless he is. What he is doing to Janelle right now--leading her on, using her neediness and desperation for attention to his advantage--is a pleasure to watch.

I, too, hope him and Mike make it to the end.

Optimystic
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07-08-2005

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Optimystic a private message Print Post    
Obviously, Will's ego has gotten the best of him, and as far as I can tell, he'd do just about anything to get the the final two. At first I was reserving my opinion on WHO he chose to get to the F2 with. Now, if he takes Janelle (which I doubt), he's low enough to screw one of his best friends. If he takes Boogie, he's low enough to play with someone's emotions mercilessly to get what he wants. To me, he'll just be a rich LOSER either way.

But, someone had to be unscrupulous to win at All Stars, and he was the perfect candidate from the start. So, he's done his job.

I don't think he'll find a whole lot of people handing him their cellphones to talk to their sister when he gets out. People will probably be THROWING their cells at him.

And, finally, many of us have been used and hurt at some point in our lives by someone as unscrupulous as Will, and I'm afraid Will is probably bringing up that awful feeling in us that trusted someone when we shouldn't have. What fools we felt like! Janelle and Erica are about to feel that same way, and it makes us all ache a little.

One thing's for sure, I thought Will was such a romantic, and would be such a great catch. Now, all I think about is how easy it would be for him to lie to someone to get what he wanted. Can you imagine the affairs he could have and talk his way out of? No thanks!

He deserves the props for game play, but he gets a big ZERO as a human being from where I stand.

Westtexan
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07-16-2004

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Westtexan a private message Print Post    
I caught a little of the baby talk between Mike and Erica but I didn't really take it seriously. Do you think Erica did?

Beebee
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08-20-2005

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beebee a private message Print Post    
Well Mike Boogies is a totally different can of worms..Don't like him at all.

Cheeky00
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07-07-2005

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cheeky00 a private message Print Post    
It's an underdog thing. Last time around he was a huge underdog and against all odds he won. This time around he should have been gone week one and has managed to survive. It's easy to root for someone in that situation. Now the tables have turned and he's no longer the underdog, so we start to look at him differently.

Cliotheleo
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03-13-2002

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cliotheleo a private message Print Post    
I think if I loved Will any more, my body would not be able to contain the pressure, and I'd explode in such a complete manner that everything around me would be covered with dripping, oozing adoration.

Meagain
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07-20-2005

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Meagain a private message Print Post    
LOL Clio! Me too.

Nick
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07-31-2004

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nick a private message Print Post    
i don't think erika took the baby talk seriously.. hell when will said he'd give her a baby she was ... 'sure!' ...



Toko
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08-27-2005

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Toko a private message Print Post    
Boogie is UGH! I don't think Erika is as strong because she just got out of a long term relationship, biological clock is ticking, seems to have some self-esteem problem, etc. Trying to play on those issues is the lowest blow in this game.

Will and Boogie are <MG> for playing Erika, not so much with Janelle. I think Janelle is playing them also and will come out of this just fine, but I'm worried for Erika.

Karma is a you know what.

Cliotheleo
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03-13-2002

Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cliotheleo a private message Print Post    
And one thing I know for certain .......... the pendulum ALWAYS swings back.

I'll see y'all back here with me in Happy Love Land next week! LOL!