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Will there be a BB next year?

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Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gina8642 a private message Print Post    
I think let Will be a dermatologist.

Another host would be fine, but Julie has scraped by all these years and I don't care if she keeps doing it. She's only on for a few minutes every Thursday anyhow. The host does not make the show. (Except for The Mole. LOL)

I think it is all about the casting. They need to find more Will's and Janelle's. IMO - they are out there, they just need to search hard for them.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gina8642 a private message Print Post    
They definitely need to avoid casters like Erika. She claims she picked Aras - one of the most boring reality contestants ever.

For me,

-They need to avoid the angry ones. (BB is getting better at this due to the violence problems)

-Look for people who keep it light and fun.

-Avoid mysoginists. I don't know how to check for this, but Jase and Robert were just disgusting in their speech about women. I don't mind a few throw away comments when people are pissed off - but Jase and Robert were way beyond that to me.

-Avoid casting too many people who want to "play the game with honor and not lying." This type of player just bores me to death. Survivor has always overcasted this type. It isn't interesting to me. Very, very few have ever been interesting. Kaysar is about the only one I've liked.

-Avoid the quiet ones. Bummer for people like me who want to go on reality shows - because I am quiet. But, they don't make good TV.

-Telegenic is fine, but don't avoid interesting people because they aren't super telegenic. Look how great Nakomis was - she never, ever would have been cast without the DNA hook.

-Cast a lot of single people. Yeah, I admit it. The game is more interesting when more people are willing to hook up. I'm not saying you need an MTV style orgy, but everyone spending all there time avoiding the opposite sex isn't good either.

-Pick smart people that are good at puzzles.

-Pick diverse people. Why are the casts so white when I look around my town and see people of so much more diversity?

-Look for charisma. I know they already do - but they need to look harder.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
Great list, Gina.

The only one I differ on is the 'Avoid casting too many people who want to "play the game with honor and not lying." '

I detest the actions of players who think "anything goes" in order to win the money. To totally abandon moral behaviour in order to win money is abhorrent to me.

The show has gone steadily downhill in that way and keeps attracting the wrong kind of players.

Not very many people who are likeable have actually won BB and it disappoints many, many people each year with who is left F2!

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gina8642 a private message Print Post    
I think the "playing with honor and telling no lies" people are boring to watch because they are so one note in the their game play.

I also find the F2 argument of "I should win because I didn't lie" just gross.

While I don't think they need to cast all <MG> James types, I think casting people with rigid moral codes just silly.

If I went on a reality TV show I would avoid lying as much as possilbe. Why? Becuase I'm a lousy liar and because it pisses people off. I wouldn't not not do it due to it being morally wrong.

Some folks are honestly built that way and having one or two isn't a bad thing, but there are some seasons of Survivor when it appears that is all they have casted. In the end they all lie and manipulate and then try to pretend they didn't. I find that really gross and disgusting. Not at all entertaining. I've stopped watching Survivor because I think their casting, amongst other problems, has really driven the show downhill.

I'd rather watch someone like Will lie who admits he lies and is funny about it.

I don't like a James player though - who pretends to be people's friends and then rips them behind their backs. However, I don't think James is bad casting. I think there is always a place for a James on a reality TV show. He won't be my favorite, but he isn't bad casting.

The only bad casting on BB All Stars was Erika, Boogie, and Jase. I had my doubts about Chicken George, but he did pretty good at the end. So, I'm ok with him making the show now.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
I can see your point of view...you look at it from an entertainment standpoint.

The Wills, Jases and Jameses all totally set my teeth on edge however. I can't find any entertainment value in how they play the game.

I'm not sure if/how it would work, having people play "less nasty" but I'd even put up with all the other things people complain about on the show...(including Julie Chen hosting!)...if there were less sleazy types playing the game. ;)

Cmist
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09-20-2005

Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cmist a private message Print Post    
One big change they need to make is to allow people to talk about the Diary Room. It's SO incredibley obvious that they are protecting the show scheming with this rule. When they go to the diary room they are prompted to do or say things. Or told not to say things. Example* yesterday when they were told not to say on the live feeds what the "THING" is they are going to attend. It is all about getting people to buy the live feeds and watch them. They had to throw in a crumb of something that they thought might keep people watching these to bring people that are so unliked by viewers that they can't muster 10 percent(between the 2) of the love em or leave em votes at the cbs network. It has been so obvious to me throughout the year that the diary room visits prompted a lot of the actions of the people in the house. I would like to see a show that isn't so "scripted". Another thing I noticed this year was a lot of flames(that came just a little to late) to cover conversations that really indicated stuff going on behind the scenes that affected(or could have) the outcome of the game. As much as I like Janelle I even think that some of her wins were "planned" by BB and for sure the win by Boogie over Janelle was obviously designed for him to win. THey can say all they want about the rules being strictly followed but I don't believe a word of that. In my opinion the show has serious credibility problems.

Jimmer
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Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It's interesting. While I highly value honesty and commitment in real life, I enjoy watching BB and I don't mind the players lying or being deceptive. I tend to think of it as a game that is played under conditions that do not reflect everyday life.

Using a football game as an example, while I wouldn't tackle someone in the street, I can see how that is reasonable behavior for someone playing a football game.

I look at it as entertainment. Similarly, there are unsavory characters in movies that I would not want to meet or be friends with personally but I still greatly enjoy watching the movies and I realize that those characters are part of what makes the movie work.

I don't generally equate what I see in the house with how these people may be in real life.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 1:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
Yes, I can see you think along the same lines as Gina, Jim.

For myself, I do NOT find people lying, being deceptive, backstabbing etc, etc the least bit entertaining. I guess I find more positive aspects in life entertaining and don't want to be bothered watching the negative garbage.

Just call me Pollyanna! :-)

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 6:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
"According to Janelle, she said during the show in conversation that one of the production higher ups said this was the last BB (then we got flames)."

Okay....what if the flames cut off the sentence? What if Janelle was quoting a staff person saying "this was the last BB...you will get to play"?

Since I heard the blurb after the show encouraging the public to apply for the next show, I believe there will be a BB8....and I WILL BE HERE FRONT AND CENTER>....WOO HOO!!

Victoria713
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08-13-2005

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Victoria713 a private message Print Post    
I wonder why they have not had another handicapped person in the house? Was that season one? I have watched then allbut can't remember, is it because they don't apply or are not what they think appealing to the tv viewers? I for one would like to see maybe more down to earth people from around the different areas not just Cali. and some older women. I thought I read somewhere one of the BB like in London ran out of bath tissue be fore store day and had to make do, what happen to you get this amount of groceries and you must make do. Make it a hardship so when you get a reward it is a reward.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 7:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
The bathroom facility isn't handicapped equipped as far as I could tell.

That would be a major block to someone in a wheelchair...

But other shows have people with prosthetics...so I don't see why BB can't.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 7:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginger1218 a private message Print Post    
There was a commercial the other night advertising for people to apply for the next BB

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
The lying has gotten so accepted that there are no boundaries at all. People will swear on their children's, mother's, anyones lives, the Bible, whatever, so there is absolutely not one promise that anyone can take to the bank.

That's why we end up with "winners" no one wants. I'm not watching the finale and the only entertainment is this forum. No point in getting invested in any hamster that plays with some sense of fair play, honesty, etc.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
Exactly, Puzz.

It's so disheartening to see people with NO conscience walk to F2 all the time!

BB should have a weekly meeting where they can sit everyone down and actually point out a BLATANT lie or two or three that people have uttered in the house.

Make these people take some responsibility for all the garbage that is spewed each season.

Or...BB puts up the second person each week...based on the deviousness of the players.

It's about time the free reign of out and out lies, à la Kirby, was brought under control.

It does NOT take a lot of skill to further yourself in the game if you are going to lie 24/7...try playing with a modicum of honesty and TRUE skill.

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
Big Brother should never cast anyone they wouldn't want to see in the Final Two, doing nothing for five days. I still will never understand why they wanted to offer a potential spot to Erika. She is lethal to watch. So boring. It's all about casting--make sure every single person in that cast is compelling unto themselves.

Victoria713
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08-13-2005

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Victoria713 a private message Print Post    
Never thought about that Kep, but lets say someone that is blind or hearing imparied, if you can't hear or see would you be able to play the game of decption? The one Survior had the girl that was deaf and she could hold her own in some of the comps., but felt left out when it come to making alliances and stratagies.

Weeniewhiner
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07-22-2005

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Weeniewhiner a private message Print Post    
Of course there's going to be a BB8.

After reading last night's feeds I assume that Erika is going to produce the show all by herself, construct the competition components all by herself, build the new BB house all by herself, buy all the groceries all by herself and run the cameras all by herself.

Oh yeah, and Erika will play the parts of all of the HGs all by herself. And we get to vote which one we think is the "real" Erika.

Is there a "real" Erika?

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
Yes, but her plastic surgeon removed it and replaced it with implants.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
Too funny, Wee & Bastable.

Is it Thursday yet??? (Survivor :-) )

Weeniewhiner
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07-22-2005

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 12:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Weeniewhiner a private message Print Post    
lol Bastable, it appears that is a true statement.

Hi Rupie, is it January, yet? ('24' I miss Jack Bauer, last time I saw him he was on a slow boat to China. )

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 1:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
BB7 has been in the top 10 these past two weeks. There will probably be a BB8. Cheap to produce for CBS to provide "original programming" during the summer.



Bastable
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07-09-2002

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
There will be a BB8 next year. Even when they're disappointing, the ratings still beat re-runs of sitcoms and who-killed-the-child procedural shows. The question is: Will Shapiro and Grodner be renewed?

The embarrassing series of production bungles (the HoH re-do, the Coup d'Etat flop, the audio leaks, the Prom Queen voting misfire, the unclear instructions for the final endurance that affected the outcome and blew the suspense--to name just the biggest ones) has to have the suits at CBS wondering if someone else couldn't do a better job at this point.

Dolphinschild
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06-22-2006

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 4:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dolphinschild a private message Print Post    
After the last BB show, Julie Chen introduced the segment for next year, which was about people sending in their application and video etc. So there is plans for BB8 with them having a casting call.

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 5:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
Did anyone look at the application, I did it would take forever to fill it out because it is a sixteen page application.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Monday, September 11, 2006 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
It'll probably come back next year (tho they might change producers after all the stuff that happened this time around....I would love to see what would happen if the Real World people got a hold of this show)..It's cheap to produce, still gets the 18-49's and better than running 21 eps of CSI each week (which is basically the only show that reruns well on CBS outside of comedies because it's non-serialized)...I think this will be likened to the Survivor All Stars and the TAR Family seasons; it seemed like a good idea at the time, but wasn't, and won't be done again.