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Aus10
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09-28-2000

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aus10 a private message Print Post    
LOL..nope, son is trying to talk Dad into doing AR.... If they ever make it, I'll be sure to let everyone know so they can root them on....

Outlawout
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07-28-2005

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Outlawout a private message Print Post    
Scorpio, I spend my days helping underprepared, often functionally illiterate college students get caught up and ready for colege reading and writing. It's not Mother Teresa, but I care a lot. I also have a small child who I think is being raised with love and respect, and taught to love and respect.

I live for playing Grand Theft Auto on the PS2. Can't top beating up hookers and taking their money for recreation. LOL

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Let's add #6: The myth of serious relationships.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, supposedly Dr. Will is with Erin. Considering that she was willing to break the hearts of two men to win a couple million, I think she's perfect for him. Can it last? Only until someone richer offers her a better proposal or 'sponsorship'. Hey ~ maybe that's where Will's fascination with 'sponsorships' come from. His GF had previous sponsors so he just assumes Janie does. What d'ya think?

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
being in the medical field, I think I may ahve a little added perspective. Doctors have to be able to 'work' people, to convince people, sometimes to be able to tell 'lies' to give a person some hope in an almost hopeless situation. No one would want a doctor who didnt have a poker face. Who showed on their face what they were thinking as they were about to check your rectal bleeding (or other gross crotchrot type symptom)

This talent can make an excellent doctor. Unfortunately, those same talents 'used for evil' (cue scarey music!) would be formidable in the BB house.

Aus10
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09-28-2000

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aus10 a private message Print Post    
"Who showed on their face what they were thinking as they were about to check your rectal bleeding (or other gross crotchrot type symptom)"

LOLOL. Too true. I guess it would be better than having them take a glance and start busting out laughing..........

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Janelle herself said that some of her partying etc was paid for by sponsors. She then backpedalled when Will kept hounding her about it.

Nancehereagain
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07-11-2005

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancehereagain a private message Print Post    
This is a great thread and I'm enjoying and agreeing with just about all the posts. I do want to add that along with a good medical school, and that doesn't have to include just the Ivies, the most important background information for any doctor is to know where they did their internships and residencies, particularly their residency. This is where they get the most experience and learn the most, plus make the professional medical relationships that will be important to them in the future. }

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
you dont laugh. you gag! and try not to puke in your mouth as you talk to the patient.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
ITA with Scorpio. Great response.

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scorpiomoon a private message Print Post    
I live for playing Grand Theft Auto on the PS2. Can't top beating up hookers and taking their money for recreation. LOL

LOL, Outlawout! You cracked me up!

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scorpiomoon a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Eeyoreslament. I appreciate that.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I agree Scorpiomoon.

Ever play golf with someone? Or go to a hockey game or play hockey with them? It can be like they are a completely different person!

Clemmis
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07-10-2005

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Clemmis a private message Print Post    
I don't understand the video game analogy some are making. A video gave versus going on TV and humiliating yourself and others and lies? In what way is that remotely similar? You can always leave behind an inanimate video game. It is no so simple to leave human beings you intentionally hurt and lied to behind in the same manner, for there are ramifications and intents that must be dealt with in the beyond.

Also, the people who claim top-tier medical schools are not important are always those who do not attend top-tier schools. The medical profession is closed, collegial and impenetrable and the provenance of your education and training are the keys to accessing your levels of power.

Sure an MD is an MD –- but within the MD community there are levels of acceptance where morality and kindness count in all aspects of the evaluation of the person and that includes at play and in the office.

Here’s another thing to consider:

Let’s say you were dying of skin cancer and you had one week to live. Who would you want as your doctor – we’ll consider their medical training is the same – Will or Kaysar?

I pick Kaysar because, I believe, he truly cares about suffering and people and he would have my best interests in mind and not his own.

I would never want Will as my MD because he has proven himself over and over again in the BB house to be willfully duplicitous, condescending and inconsiderate. Those are not traits I want in my doctor and I don’t buy his excuse for his bad behavior in that “it’s just a game” because how you play a game defines your real values in your everyday life. You cannot hide from yourself.

My fear of having Will as my MD is that he’d be taking side bets with Boogie guessing the day I’d die and they’d laugh about it over the phone together!

Aus10
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09-28-2000

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aus10 a private message Print Post    
Are we forgetting Maggie the nurse? LOL

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 3:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
When BB2 was on, I remember hearing a rumor that Will received his degree from an internet college. Sounded plausible, considering his behavior 4-5 years ago. Who know?!!

Outlawout
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07-28-2005

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 3:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Outlawout a private message Print Post    
No one said top tier med schools weren't imporant. That would take away from those who went to them. They make 7 figures a year. But there are a dozen of those schools and hundereds of the "other" med schools. Why would people go to them if they wouldn't be sucessful in their professions? People with medical degrees from Grenada can still make a bunch of money. The original claim was that Will probably didn't have any money, not that he was probably a very sincere and caring physician.

BB is like a video game in that all of the participants sign on knowing they are competing for the votes of those same people they are competing with. Everyone understands that involves lying, manipulating, and perhaps hurting feelings. The "victims" volunteered.

And medical professionals are well known for their lack of sensitivity for the humans they treat. There is a term in the medical discourse community "CTD". It means the patient in "circling the drain". How's that for sensitive and caring for people's feelings?

Outlawout
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07-28-2005

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 3:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Outlawout a private message Print Post    
Internet colleges are accredited by the same bodies that accredit all colleges and universities. One could not take anatomy, for example, without somehow having contact with a real human cadaver or the credit wouldn't count anywhere. Labs and other necessary hands-on training are set up in a number of different ways for distance learning situations. There are many fine, reputable online degrees programs available. They are great for professionals already working who can't attend traditional classes.

Weeniewhiner
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07-22-2005

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Weeniewhiner a private message Print Post    
My mom was watching 'ER', heard the term "LOL," called me to find out what it meant. I knew it was gonna make her mad but I had to tell her it meant Little Old Lady. She was not amused.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Clemmis, I made the claim you do not have to go to a top tier school and I DID go to a top tier veterinary school (University of Pennsylvania) My education is only as good as I made it, not as good as the school. And yes, veterinary school is equally demanding as medical school.

Clemmis
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07-10-2005

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Clemmis a private message Print Post    
I'm not sure what veterinary school has to do with a medical school discussion. One would have to accept the idea the educations and intentions are equal when they are not as evidenced in the differences in the patients they treat.

I’m sure some may claim law school or automotive college are "just as demanding as medical school" but that doesn't make it so.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
And your saying that it doesn't, does not make it so either.

Weeniewhiner
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07-22-2005

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 4:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Weeniewhiner a private message Print Post    
Docs only work on human patients, their innards are all pretty much the same, except for the boy/girl thingies.

Think of all the different kinds of patients a Vet works on. Vets must learn different systems in different species. Sounds more difficult to me.

Yesitsme
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08-24-2004

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yesitsme a private message Print Post    
Some people think that how you play a game indicates how you play at life. I don't believe that and haven't seen that to be the case in my life or in the lives of those around me. I don't think Will takes any of this as anything other than a big game he is playing on tv. (He may also see his medical career that way...but since I don't know him in that context I can't say.) I can't see where he has humiliated himself yet on this show, but then again I don't have the feeds so have only seen what CBS has shown me. I think he is playing it about as well as it can be played. If this was a situation where others didn't know they were playing a game where bluffing (or lying, if you will) is allowed and encouraged, I may have some sympathy for them and feel differently. In this case they all have not only played the game before, they have either seen or heard about the way Will played it the first time. What is delighting a lot of us is that he is playing the same game again with people who have this knowledge, and they are letting him. That's entertainment. I would love him to win again, but if he gets voted out I will probably be entertained there, too. It's a game. Lives are not at stake.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 6:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
You nailed it, Yes. I keep saying that they know how he was before and yet they all just bring him in. I think if the game play goes on like this, Chilltown will take it to the final two.

And I am ruthless at Trivia, I don't like to lose but anyone that knows me wouldn't say that I live my life that way.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 6:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Will or Kaysar?


in a second I'd take Will. I like confident and to the point type people. Kaysar would scare the crap out of people by rambling on and on about his theories and treatments.

Outlaw, I think you are confusing lack of sensitivity with dulling of empathy. We HAVE to have to be able to detach from our feelings. A part of that is stupid humor and dumb nicknames for some procedures. It is a coping mechanism.
(( Yes I've really seen FUBR as a diagnosis on a car accident victim (F'd up beyond Repair) )

There are people that become so detached that they fall into serious depression.