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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:31 am
I remember the issues with past HOH's...but I also remember the issues would not have affected the outcome, simply because the person who won would have won even if the technical problem hadn't occured. If the buzzers weren't working correctly, then this "issue" clearly affected the outcome of the first HOH. Crap happens.... I almost wish Janie hadn't won HOH....I was hoping she got the Coup thing... Can the HOH win the coup?
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:34 am
I think the only reason they did HOH again was because Howie said on live tv, I pressed it!!! and he was pretty mad. No question, Howie could have kicked up a stink, especially if he was voted out this week and he has it on tape that his button didnt work. Better to just redo the whole thing and eliminate the hassle. I am sure the CBS lawyers said, do it over and that is why there was delay.
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Bibitri
Member
05-31-2006
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:38 am
Kep, yes, the HOH has as good a chance at the coup as the rest--.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:45 am
Thanks Bibitri!!
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Adjuster
Member
08-07-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:04 am
With all the people producing the show - you would think that one of them would have noticed that Boogie's light did not go on. They should have stopped the competition right there due to the malfunction. Julie could have explained to the viewers that they would see who won HOH on Sunday. It does look bad. People were upset about Howie being out. Others are upset about the re-do and Janie winning it. CBS dropped the ball for sure.
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Redpen
Member
07-24-2003
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:21 am
I can't stand Janelle, but she did win the redo fairly. I'm just once again angry at A&A. What cheesy production values! They really embarrassed themselves and CBS this time.
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Faerygdds
Member
08-29-2000
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:30 am
Apparently (for clarification) there was a discussion after the HOH whereby James told Dani that he pressed his button before Erika and it didn't register. That would have directly affected the winner.... couple that with the other glitches, it was enough to redo the whole thing.
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Lauram
Member
07-13-2000
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:34 am
sorry but this season has not been ALL Star in terms of production. I thought it was bad a few weeks ago when Julie said "Nakomis you are the new HOH" then changed to James. I think there was another error on Julie's part...now this...they need to get their act together
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Carmil
Member
07-17-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:38 am
Also, keep in mind that within one hour after the show ended last night, the internet media got hold of the story about the technical glitches in the competition. Before any decision was made, the press was questioning the outcome. A similar situation happened on American Idol when the wrong phone number went up and they also had to do a type of re-do. I think legally that weighed a lot heavier on their decision than the houseguests complaints or even the viewers cry of foul. Besides, it was the right thing to do.
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Keiffer
Member
07-13-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:49 am
I wonder why James thought he hit the button before Jan? During the show it looked like both of the (maybe by sound) knew who had clicked first. Also the concetration that Erika was showing during the first HoH was intense. She had her head down concetrating very hard. She looked determined. I see no way that after being told that she was now going to have to compete all over again she could get her head in the same place. Jan was not eliminated the first time based on time, but being wrong. Perhaps the people who were eleminated on time would have a beef. I do remember in the past when subjects like this have come up it was said that because this is a "reality show" and not a game show that the rules for fair play do not apply. Like when that blonde came back a few years ago and was put into that stinky tub, and she said she was told by her handler that it was VERY important that she compete hard before going back in. Because her winning HoH put Chiara up and she was unpopular on the board most people were saying that there isn't an obligation by the producers to be 100% fair. That the producers could manipulate peoples feelings in the DR, could slant challenges or whatever they needed to make the show more interesting. If that was true in the past it is true now. The producers I think could have done whatever they wanted. They could have made Erika HOH or done the re-do. Either way some HG is getting hosed.
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Typingfool
Member
06-07-2006
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:52 am
I think it's absolutely funny....First, Erika wins and it's a conspiracy against Season 6...Then Janelle wins and it's a conspiracy to help Season 6. whatever!
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Beruthiel
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:53 am
I think it all boils down to they screwed up, on air, and had no other choice but to redo it, or leave themselves open to a lot of further strife down the line. ALL of the competitors could have claimed foul, if they'd let the first result stand, and once it was out there in medialand, they had to act.
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Luvscoutii
Member
07-21-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:53 am
The first competition wasn't fair and square due to the multiple technical difficulties. You can't say well up until 5 minutes into the comp it was fair so we're going to take it from that point on. Everyone had a fair and square, equal chance at the second competition. Jani just happens to rock at these comps usually and she has a pretty good memory recall. I was actually hoping Boogie would get it. They may have written rules of play somewhere which has guidelines of re-doing a comp.
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Darrellh
Member
07-21-2004
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:19 am
Could James have just said that he hit first, to give the impression that he was trying, instead of throwing the comp?
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Guinevere
Member
03-15-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:23 am
I do kind of get the arguments about not letting the people who got answers wrong compete in the second HOH. But here's the thing: say Janie could tell that she was having to hit the buzzer more than once to get her answer to register. She would be that much more likely to jump the gun on the answer she got wrong (since I think she likely knew the correct answer; she just buzzed in too quickly, before hearing the entire question). So we can't say that the technical difficulties didn't effect her. They may very well have; or they may not have. But at that point, with multiple people indicating that they had problems buzzing in, it is definitely safer and really the only fair thing to let everyone participate in the do-over.
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Bblovergirl
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:03 am
How can you call buzzing in WRONG a technical difficulty? Janelle got it wrong and was given the chance to play again. It had nothing to do with her buzzer, it was her brain. I can take or leave Janelle, but to give HG who answered incorreclty the chance to play it again is totally unfair.
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Beruthiel
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:10 am
The first contest was flawed by faulty equipment, and so it was deemed NULL AND VOID and they did ANOTHER contest, which Janelle won. EVERY houseguest got a second chance, including those who went off before Janelle, so what's unfair? Sorry, I just don't get the claim that it's all unfair, they ALL benefited from the second chance, only Erika lost out.
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:10 am
God, this is getting so irritating. Janelle buzzing wrong ISN'T a technical difficulty or glitch ... HOWEVER, the whole HOH competition was based on a system that had obvious glitches that affected its outcome. The truly fair thing was to scrap the first HOH (pretend it didn't happen) and start all over again.
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Kswheels
Member
06-30-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:14 am
The argument is that if there were some technical difficulties, there could have been others. There is no way to determine if eliminations were fair or not.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:20 am
Hey... didn't the other people who got wrong answers in the first HOH get to play in the second HOH as well, or is the problem because Janelle was the only one with a wrong answer and got to play in the second HOH? I'm not understanding what having a wrong answer in an invalid HOH has to do with winning the second HOH?
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Kswheels
Member
06-30-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:26 am
Everyone played Kep - Some are arguing that Janie was eliminated because she got it wrong, not because of a slow buzzer, therefore it wasn't a technical glitch, therefore she shouldn't have been allowed to play in HoH #2.
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Kalekona
Member
06-12-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:26 am
Because of the tech problems the first HOH voided, thus it never happened. Everyone is on equal ground for the second one. That is why it was fair for Jani to compete. BB did not hand her the win, the questions were harder and james and boogie both tossed it away so if anyone gave it to jani it was them not BB.
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Guinevere
Member
03-15-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:34 am
Again, I'm not saying that Janie buzzing in with the wrong answer constitutes a technical difficulty. Just that if she was having technical difficulties on previous questions (having to buzz in more than once to get her answer to light up, as happened to Howie and others), she may have jumped the gun for that reason on the one she answered wrong. That's why I don't think her competing in the second HOH was unfair.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:43 am
Well that doesn't make sense.... Janie's button didn't stick, so she should not have been allowed to play in the second HOH? Well if you go by that rule, the only person who should be allowed to play the second HOH was Howie....
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Kswheels
Member
06-30-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:45 am
Kep - Not quite. Janie actually got the answer wrong. It's impossible to know who had buzzer related issues. We know of Boogie and James so far. Still a stupid argument.
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