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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 7 All-Stars ARCHIVES: Big Brother 7 All-Stars Part 3: HOH being redone...concerns: Archive through August 10, 2006 users admin

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Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
A messed up buzzer wouldn't explain Janelle choosing the wrong answer. This is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as Julie Chen spending all of Kaysar's exit interview trying to get him angry at James instead of asking about Kaysar's experience.

Tuzza
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08-19-2005

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tuzza a private message Print Post    
I don't really understand how anyone here, fan of S6 or not, can say that the first competition was fair and square EXCEPT for Howie's button. You all could tell each time exactly who pushed their button last? You saw for certain that all other buzzers rang and lit up in precise order of being pushed? How could CBS not re-do a competition that blatantly showed mechanical errors? Just because you saw certain errors doesn't mean they were the only errors, it means the system had a flaw in it and all should be given another fair shot. I sincerely doubt they were sitting in a room thinking up what ways can we piss off the part of America that hates Janelle tonight.

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
Yes, there were more difficulties than just Howie in the first comp. Boogie's light didn't even go on at one point, yet he was allowed to stay in the game.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
And if someone complains now?

That's what I would do if I were in the house -- whine like Howie did and see if they do it again...and again...and again.

But then, they'd just keep doing it until Janelle won again -- so really, what's the use?

Luvscoutii
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07-21-2005

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Luvscoutii a private message Print Post    
What do you say that What?

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
I don't see this being fixed. I just don't. The fact some people don't like the outcome is proof that BB probably wouldn't have wanted to fix it that way. Fixing game shows is also illegal, and there are probably about 20 network lawyers right now from Standards and Practices in the BB offices, calling every single shot. They swept in the minute the first contest went wrong. There is no earthly way this was fixed. Just because you don't like the outcome doesn't mean it was.

You just can't fix a network game show in America anymore. Too many lawyers. And you bet they're crawling all over Shapiro tonight.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Going by history, it was an odds on favorite that Janie might win. She'd already won 40 % of all the previous HOH competitions. With a batting average like that, she didn't need it to be "fixed".

Mpjr
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09-01-2005

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mpjr a private message Print Post    
Wow, what a fix (IMO).... I have no desire to watch this program anymore. Why don't they just skip all the baloney and just give Janelle the check.

I find this whole thing very suspicious.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Again, Janelle didn't suffer from a slow buzzer. She gave the wrong answer. Why on earth was she not sitting on the sidelines? Because the producers feared Janelle fans would be foaming at the mouth if she wasn't given a second chance at it.

Luvscoutii
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07-21-2005

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Luvscoutii a private message Print Post    
What would be suspicious is if they didn't re-do the game. They had to give everyone a chance at it if they re-did it. They couldn't just say we're only re-doing half of it.

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
No, because the only way to have a fair competition is to start it from the beginning. Janelle could have claimed that the funky buzzers threw her off her game and caused her to give the wrong answers. She'd have a case.

Aus10
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09-28-2000

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aus10 a private message Print Post    
In this era of the instant replay there was absolutely no reason to do the whole competetion over again other than to give it to Janie. All they needed to do was rewind in slo-mo and get the correct winner. This has become a farce of epic proportion.........

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
They could certainly have redone it from the point where Howie's buzzer screwed up, if indeed it was the buzzer's fault and not just Howie's hand hitting it funny. How would that have been unfair? George's buzzer worked, but he was just too slow. Janelle got her answer flat-out wrong. Pick the game up where the malfunction occurred.

Tuzza
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08-19-2005

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tuzza a private message Print Post    
I am really shocked at how such a large cross-section of America really has it in their heads that this was rigged tonight ONLY because Janie won. It makes me want to research and write a thesis. I can't recall seeing this much passion (love and hate) brought out over a tv person

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
Curlyq, because no one can prove that the malfunction wasn't happening earlier in the game, undetected.

And as for instant replay, there were no cameras on their fingers that I know of, so that is not helpful here.

I agree, Tuzza. It's puzzling. Yet no one seems to care about Diebold voting machines leaving no paper trail in presidential elections. Sad.

Aabeepbeep
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01-27-2006

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aabeepbeep a private message Print Post    
Also remember the coup, this could be to Janelles disadvantage somehow, just depending on exactly how it works.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
That is the most logical thing to do, Curlyq. Just not allow anyone who had given a wrong answer and thus eliminated themselves for no technical reason to be out of it.

But the reason they could not do that is because then Janelle could not have won.

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
You guys would not make good network lawyers.

Aus10
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09-28-2000

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aus10 a private message Print Post    
My TIVO has instant replay in slo-mo....and CBS can't just rewind the tape....heck....I can tell the order in which they hit the buttons..... It was very do-able......

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
what a load of crap!!

the servers have been out here where I live. This is a scam. I said there would be a MIRACLE that would ensure Janelle's win.

Here we go......

Every other questionable comp has stood, as is.

Why is this one different?

This infuriates me. PURE scam! Janelle was already OUT of the comp when Howie had the problem. Janelle hit the wrong answer...that isnt a tech difficulty.

Hiyall
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07-06-2005

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hiyall a private message Print Post    
LOL @ Bastable

Bluefield
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08-09-2006

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluefield a private message Print Post    
I love it. The pink palace is back and the bad guys didn't get to win. I knew BB wouldn't let go of their reining princess.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Wow, you <el> really don't get it.
The question where Janelle went out Boogie's
lights didn't work, and had he answered
incorrectly, he too should have been gone. So
that shows that there were more problems than
just Howie's buzzer.
Other HGs could say that they hit their buzzer but
the signal went too slow and they were eliminated.
Or that they had to hit it twice. I'm guessing
CBS also had techs try out the buzzers and found
that there were problems (again, both Boogie and
Howie suffered non-functioning lights.)
This wasn't a redo so Janelle could win, it was
a redo to prevent a lawsuit from whichever
HG is evicted this week.
They showed the HGs the video, and they all
saw Boogie's didn't work too, so that brought the
whole thing into question.
While I was watching HOH, I thought Erica was
going to win it again...she's good at these
questions just like Janelle.
To me, it doesn't matter who won, only that the
competition was fair. Boogie advanced although
he had no answer, and Howie was eliminated
because his light didn't work. I'm sorry, but
that's not fair. I hated Cappy last year, and
had it been him instead of Howie (or Janelle) I'd
feel the same way.
Put yourself in Howie's place. You'd feel the
same way. What if Howie had been evicted?
Janelle has now won 5 HOHs in 2 years, and 2
vetos this year (did she win any last year?)
<el>

What555456
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06-14-2005

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
You got it right, Bluefield -- most of us also guessed that Janelle would win as soon as we heard it was being replayed.

Mpjr
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09-01-2005

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mpjr a private message Print Post    
I find it suspicious because there have been other situations where malfunctions have been apparent and yet they never felt the need for a do-over.

I'm not interested in debating fairness as frankly it's subjective. I just have an opinion. Whether Janelle wins or not, I could care less. I don't care who wins because it's not me and I have nothing vested in it other than for entertainment value, which has been waning anyway.

<el>