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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 1:50 pm
I don't think this HOH means much when on Thursday Danielle (probably) can nullify all nominations, all evictions and gets to nominate and gets Janelle evicted. Wow!!! This HOH is worthless..
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Jeanne
Member
07-15-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 1:51 pm
Great post Kansa.
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Caycaye
Member
09-14-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 1:54 pm
Janelle said LATE LAST NIGHT to Howie that NO MATTER WHAT anyone said...SHE is putting up Danielle and Erika....to EVICT Danielle if possible to avenge Kaysar... and Erika, because Janie thinks CT will keep Erika over Danielle....Janie will NOT put up Marcellas...she KNOWS Marcy will go home before ANYONE, and she wants at least ONE of the two girls out because they threaten Janie in the competitions the MOST.....can't argue with THAT logic! She said if Danielle is vetoed off the block, Janie will put up Chicken George...so Erika will be voted OUT! Good GIRL Janie...GREAT strategy!
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Kansafornian
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 1:58 pm
Gidget - Erika was already talking with James (and I think maybe Dani) about who she was putting up. She was hesitant to not put Janelle up until after the veto like Dani wanted. She was going to put James up and Howie I believe. (How or Jan). They had talked about this the night before the comp as well because they were setting up what the HOH would do. This was talks between Dani, Marci and Erika. She was getting Jani out. Whether it was thru backdoor or not - that was the plan.
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Kansafornian
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 2:00 pm
Caycay - exactly!! The only problem I see is that the house will boot CG before they get rid of Erika. She needs a new backup plan. 
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Bblovergirl
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 2:00 pm
I am not a Janelle fan, but if she nominates Erika/Dani, she will be doing what is best for her with the information she's got. My question, how come she only gets information from the guys? Has she really made an attempt to get close to any of the woman there? Really? I've read many posts about how the other woman never gave her a chance, but how has Janelle gone out of her way to get to know them? Diane went to her room and talked to her and told her she wanted someone to trust and to be trusted. Diane didn't do anything other than that, but was railroaded in that POV and then put up. Who told Janelle Diane was gunning for her? Why didn't Janelle go and talk to Diane. Even when Erika was hanging out with Janelle, Janelle still said she didn't trust her and had concerns about her b/c Erika was Kaysar's parachute. I do think Janelle has some role in not being close to woman in the house, she should have tried a little harder. She sure put a lot of effort into getting to know Will.
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Calamity
Member
10-18-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 2:11 pm
Thanks, Willi (smilies all around here, lol). It strikes me as kind of sadly funny that the women who makes those sort of claims are guilty of the very behavior they're criticizing! Btw, saw your doggie in your profile pic. So cute! Now back to Janelle's nominations. I kind of understand Season 6's strategy to target the floaters BUT I just don't get why they never caught on that the ultimate floaters are Chilltown. When/if Will wins again, I'm going to laugh so hard!
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Willa
Member
08-03-2006
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 2:11 pm
That's a great point, Bblovergirl. For some reason, Janelle does not seem to trust (or want to trust) the women in the house.
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Ark
Member
07-10-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 2:26 pm
Janie trusted Sarah & Rachel last year. This year, she feels like they are all gunning for her, and she's right. She would be stupid to trust them.
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Bblovergirl
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 2:34 pm
Why does she feel like they are all gunning for her: Because of what other men have told her. Dani put her up and explained it was a numbers game and she was right to do it. Oh, never mind.
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Kansafornian
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 2:39 pm
Bblove - to an extent you are right. This goes back to James last year starting things with Jani and Ivette that weren't true (at least at the time). James has done it again this year, but he has turned everyone on to Janie. Obivously it's a numbers game, but why is Jani the main target? Because James made side deals against his 'team', Howie is thought to be a moron and Kay is everyone's friend. They were all gunning for her, for whatever reason. It has to do with what 'other men' have told her but also because it's true. Another thing to consider is that of course men told her. Her alliance was made of all men!
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Delilah
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 2:42 pm
Janelle is the main target because she is good. She wins a lot.
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Guinevere
Member
03-15-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 3:43 pm
quote:Has she really made an attempt to get close to any of the woman there? Really? I've read many posts about how the other woman never gave her a chance, but how has Janelle gone out of her way to get to know them?
Why is it all on her? Has Dani really tried to get to know Janelle? I haven't seen it. The fact is, Janelle had a huge target as the alpha member of the alliance that everyone was gunning for from the get-go. I don't think getting to know any of the women in the house would have helped her at all (but am still curious about why the responsibility would all be on her).
quote:Diane went to her room and talked to her and told her she wanted someone to trust and to be trusted. Diane didn't do anything other than that, but was railroaded in that POV and then put up. Who told Janelle Diane was gunning for her?
From everything I've heard, this goes back to James last season on the feeds making a reference to Drew getting "the ugly chick" (Diane) and Janelle laughing. Diane apparently went ballistic over this, and supposedly her sister or Diane herself (can't remember) had some anti-Janelle rant on her website (I might have the details a little off here), and Diane even supposedly had a "Bye Bye " t-shirt made up and brought it into the house with the expressed purpose of wearing it when Janelle was evicted. And this is all over something that James said, and Janelle only laughed at. Janelle later apologized to Diane, an apology that Diane refused to accept. And yet Diane thinks James, who never apologized that I've heard, is a great guy. And yet it's Janelle in this scenario that we are branding as having trouble getting along with other women? Ooo-kay.
quote:Even when Erika was hanging out with Janelle, Janelle still said she didn't trust her and had concerns about her b/c Erika was Kaysar's parachute.
Janelle was not the only person in that alliance that had problems with Erika. Erika stuck close to the S4 in the early days, but would never commit to anything, and it started to get on all of their nerves. I know I witnessed situations on the feeds where Erika would be talking to all of them, and then she'd leave, and everyone (not just Janelle) would badmouth her and say that they didn't trust her. For all that she was Kaysar's "parachute", I don't remember him even defending her that much. They all have a problem with the way Erika plays, which is so antithetical to the way that the S3 think the game should be played.
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Momof3
Member
08-08-2006
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 4:02 pm
Diane went to her room and talked to her and told her she wanted someone to trust and to be trusted. Diane didn't do anything other than that, but was railroaded in that POV and then put up. Who told Janelle Diane was gunning for her?then went right to Erika and said shes safe this week then im fing her over
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 4:08 pm
I, frankly, did not think that Diane was being honest/truthful when she had her little "heart-to-heart" with Janelle during her second HOH. However, I digress, getting back to the topic of this thread: Why should Janelle not nominate the women? Why should she avoid putting up Erika and Dani? They are both gunning for her, big time--heck everyone except for Howie is gunning for her. Getting either one of these two harpies out at this time would be a smart move for Janelle.
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Tuzza
Member
08-19-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:04 pm
I personally think the two biggest threats in that house are 2 women: Janelle Danielle If either of them have any smarts left in them about this game they will gun for eachother and nominate along with them the person they see as their most loyal. I think if you were clueless about the James alliance, you would see Erica as Dani's big follower. Janie has HOH, game smart move would equal in my opinion, Dani and Erica. Of course, this is Janie we are talking about and that means that by some secret Big Brother law,I must state something irrational either for her or against her. Like she secretly heard Dani and Erica plotting against her in the jack shack how they were going to tie her down and pop her boobies if she didn't start voting their way, so OF COURSE, she must vote them out, how can you not see that! OR The only reason this idiot is going to vote out the last of the woman in the house is so she can pull out her only true strategy, as soon as the girls are gone, she can really HANG with the boys if you know what I mean. Next week Janelle the buxom blonde will reveal that she is Janelle the tricking transvestite. The remaining men in the show will beg to be released from the house when they see what is really beneath all of that fake scenery. The only one that will want to remain is Marcellas and this you see, is how she will win the game, cause the only person really hated more than the tricking transvestite is the robe! Someone start a thread and give me the number of CBS!
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:08 pm
I have no problem with Janelle targeting the last two women because they are targeting Janelle. Ridiculous to critizise Janie for portecting herself. Completely and totally.
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What555456
Member
06-14-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:24 pm
If memory srves me correctly, it was Janelle who was part of the alliance that held sway over the HoH for the first four weeks. And it was Janelle who led the charge against James intent to nominate CT when he was HoH and wanted to go after the women floaters. Then it was Janelle who refused to talk to or listen to her partners -- in fact lied to them -- her last time as HoH so she could go after women floaters. And now we have Janelle, after losing HoH by being awarded it on a silver platter by BB, saying she intends to nominate two women no matter what! And you people think she is not going after the women? You are joking aren't you? I mean, isn't it kind of obvious what she is doing -- especially when the real threat to ALL of the other HG's, inlcuding Janelle, is CT, no matter how much fun Will and Mike might be? I am really surprised that people do not see such an obvious pattern; especially when combined with her actions last season. It is very clear to me she does not like women, never approaches them, cannot get along with them and she purposely tries to isolate and then destroy them.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:34 pm
I think the question needs to be - Is Janelle going after people that are targeting her? Would they be willing to win HOH. Alison was targeting Janelle. Alison was willing to win HOH. Nakomis wasn't really, but Janie wanted to save Nakomis. Nakomis was willing to win HOH. Jase was targeting Janelle. Jase was willing to win HOH. Diane was targeting Janelle. Diane was willing to win HOH. She isn't targeting women, she targeted those that are targeting her. She should have gone after Will and Boogie who are ducking HOH and willing to vote her way when she's in power? Should she target Kaysar, Howie, and James who are part of her own alliance? (Remember, she really isn't aware of Jame's betrayal.) Again, it is so outrageiously ridiculous for anyone to expect Janelle to target people who are not after her just so she doesn't target women. This board just gets stranger and stranger as the season goes on.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:49 pm
When James was HOH, Janelle pushed to get rid of Jase. I am really surprised that some people think Jase is a "woman floater".
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Chalupa
Member
09-21-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:58 pm
Janie got HOH handed to her last night on a silver platter??? If I'm not mistaken, everyone had an equal opportunity to win that second competition. She was asked the same questions as everyone else, the only difference being she got them all correct! If Marci had won, would you say it had been handed to him on a silver platter?? For some reason, I suspect most people wouldn't. And I agree with Spear, she led the charge against Jase, because she knew he was coming after not only her, but her entire alliance.
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Sisalou
Member
07-12-2002
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:34 pm
I think in real life Janie has alot of women friends. I know I won't judge her based getting along with the women in BB. Mainly because I wouldn't want to be friends with most of them myself.
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Kswheels
Member
06-30-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:38 pm
Would you guys criticize a man for only targeting other men? If not, this discussion is just a justification for Janie hate.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:39 pm
I can't tell you how much the name of this thread bothers me. Call her whatever, she's not picking on women. Don't equate her a sexiest.
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WoodpeckeŽ
Member
07-16-2002
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:39 pm
"And now we have Janelle, after losing HoH by being awarded it on a silver platter by BB.." ??????????????????????????????
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Sisalou
Member
07-12-2002
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:51 pm
I have the same question myself Woody. LOL
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Kswheels
Member
06-30-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:56 pm
Sisalou - I could rehash and explain that person's point but I already have a headache. They would rather have an unfair competition, and have CBS get sued, then Janie be HoH.
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Jbfrommi
Member
07-24-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:01 pm
Oh darn that Janelle! 
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Bastable
Member
07-09-2002
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:03 pm
Even many of Janelle's fans often refer to her in a patronizing, vaguely misogynistic way... a la "Good girl, Janie," and "That's my girl." Which is interesting. You can find examples in this very thread. This whole culture of treating a woman like a child by way of praising her... interesting. I'm sure sociologists would have an interesting perspective on it.
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Jbfrommi
Member
07-24-2005
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:04 pm
That's my girl, Janie!! 
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:47 pm
Woody, is that some sort of secret English they don't teach the forieners? I can't make heads and tails there. 
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:05 pm
"foreigners" Sorry I missed that.
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Guinevere
Member
03-15-2001
| Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:39 pm
Yes, thanks to those who have pointed out that Janelle wanting to get rid of Jase is a fly in the "Janelle only targets women" ointment.
quote:I am really surprised that people do not see such an obvious pattern; especially when combined with her actions last season.
You shouldn't be so surprised; people have different opinions. I'm sort of surprised that all of the Janelle-detractors are so very surprised that not everyone sees things exactly the way they do.
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