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Demonization of Houseguests

The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 7 All-Stars ARCHIVES: Big Brother 7 All-Stars Part 3: Demonization of Houseguests users admin

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Kswheels
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06-30-2005

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kswheels a private message Print Post    
Is it just me or did it start early this year?

I have heard people say every year that the pressures of the came and the lack of perspective are what leads to Houseguests demonizing each other.

Hate to break it to ya folks...That's not true.

Because we who have the feeds and see a vast majority of what goes on from multiple angles are just as guilty of demonizing houseguests who go after our favorite.

So here's my challenge. Don't do it. Stop the negative talk all together.

If you like Dani, say you're rooting for Dani. But don't trash every houseguest who goes after Dani.

If you like Janie, say you're rooting for Janie. But don't trash every houseguest who goes after Janie.

I',m not saying you shouldn't criticize a player for behaving badly, but try to do it equally. Bad behavior is bad behavior, even if your favorite houseguest is doing it.

Same goes for good behavior. It would be nice to see TVCHers try to say something good about the houseguests occasionally.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
It did start kind of early kswheels...but I think that's only because these HG's are known and were already demons in the minds of some...

Beruthiel
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08-07-2000

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beruthiel a private message Print Post    
Kswheels, I like your post - and I agree. After reading today, I'm totally depressed.

Poppy
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07-21-2006

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Poppy a private message Print Post    
KS - I understand where you are coming from, but on the other hand - part of the reason for these boards is to have discussion. And I think that probably many of us type things that are extreme just to have fun, and don't mean it to come across as venemous. Who knows? But I guess it's like any other thing, such as TV, radio, movies, books - if you don't enjoy it/agree with it/or like it, then noone is forcing you to read it. Not suggesting that you get off the boards at all - it's just one of those facts of our society and how it operates, so please don't take it as me telling you what to do or that you are not entitled to your own opinion.

This is one of the much milder, kinder websites in this respect. Some of the others are absolutely downright nasty, nasty, nasty. So, having said that, and knowing that I enjoy reading other peoples' posts, even if they don't agree with me, or are mean (or whatever term you would like to substitute there), if I can have my opinion, then others are entitled to theirs.

Too, being on the internet allows people to be anonymous and say things (type) that they most likely wouldn't otherwise say outloud. It also allows those of us who are reading, since we are not able to see facial expressions and hear tone of voice particularly, to read into whatever is written what we will. This also colors how we all perceive things.

Almost every person that I can think of on these boards has posted things that are not offensive or ugly in the least and postive about various players, and they don't just post negative things. Most of them have said kind, nice things and alot of it is done tongue in cheek.

I try to look at this as something I enjoy and don't take things so personally or get incensed or upset when people say things on here that are stronger than I might express. I just move on to the next thing to read and respond to those. And many here write things that are meant to be taken as funny, not serious.

Just my personal opinions and feelings about this board. No disrespect to any intended.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 3:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
As a sociological experiment...I think BB can say a great deal about who we are.

After watching last nights episode and reading the posts here, the live feeds and saw denomination going on, I started to think about the movie "The Running Man". Convicts were on a game show and would be executed live on TV in a horrific way. People would cheer on the executioners. When I saw the movie I recall wondering if this could happen in our society.

On to BB. Here we are, picking favorites. Some of us wanting to see how "LOW" a person will go to win the money. Others want to see fun, laughter and honesty as much as possible.

My favorites tend to be the "good" people who try to play without hurting others. It's why I adored Kaysar. It's one of the reasons Season 1 will always be my favorite.

Personally, I don't want to see this show become a show that value's bashing and villianizing other's personal lives for victory in the game.

Money is the root of all evil. IMHO ~~~ James is more than willing to go to ANY level to win <100> Some folks want to see that play out, however I don't want to applaud <that>..

All this makes me wonder... why do we laugh at others' misery. Why do we stop and watch an accident? Why do we pass on gossip and negative information about others, rather than good things?

Is all this reality TV showing us how backwards we are becoming as a society as far as our values are concerned?

I don't know, but I sure hate to think of the day when "The Running Man" is more than just a fictional movie.

Nancyb
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07-07-2005

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 3:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancyb a private message Print Post    
I wouldn't come here if everything was all sweetness and light.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 3:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
It was Julie who was making a case of James's badmouthing Janelle when she told Kaysar during the post-eviction interview.
She was negative about those comments and Kaysar just shook his head.. not daring saying anything in public, but I'm sure he's fuming now.
There's nothing nice about James'playing...

Dahli
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11-27-2000

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dahli a private message Print Post    
I hear ya Kearie... I wonder all that sometimes myself and that movie has come into my mind on a few occasions when ruminating on the state of the human race lately.

Cousin_jake
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07-04-2002

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 4:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cousin_jake a private message Print Post    
And according to Sarah's radio interview yesterday, James had this planned before going into the house just as many of us suspected. She said he wanted to get revenge for last year. (I didn't hear this interview myself but I read about it on one of the boards)

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 4:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
I keep reading the title of this thread as "domination of the houseguests." LOL

Tuzza
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08-19-2005

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tuzza a private message Print Post    
I innocently thought first season that this was a show about the "study" of people under the circumstances of the house. I have grown up to realize that it really is a study, although the HG's are not the study, the public is. the degree of passion for some of these people really blows me away.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Tuzza, you are not the only one. I can totally understand the HGs getting all upset and emotional. It is their life, their possible winnings, etc. But to see the passion that so many posters here have is rather freaky at times! (And I am not excluded!!!)
Seriously, why would someone who is not related and does not know a HG in real life care whether or not they win or get badmouthed by another HG?

Jeanne
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07-15-2005

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jeanne a private message Print Post    
Julieboo and Tuzza, do you think the passion is any less or different than the attachment or emotional responses that fans often have for their favorite sports team or athlete? People get pretty passionate over that kind of stuff too!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Seriously, why would someone who is not related and does not know a HG in real life care whether or not they win or get badmouthed by another HG?


there is something in our psyche' that wants things to be fair. Its not fair!! It was rigged!! and other conspiracy theories tie people together in groups. US against THEM is a common thread.

I think that it is a normal part of society. Sports team is a great example.

Tuzza
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08-19-2005

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tuzza a private message Print Post    
I happen to be a huge sports fan. Season tix holders to one pro team, and two colleges. My brother is also a football coach at a university. My weekends are often found in the stands. I can see the comparison. No doubts people get passionate. A cheer here, a boo there. But just as I think here, those that cry fowl everytime their team loses or is penalized is irrational in my opinion. I just think it is a real study in human behavior how passionate and often irrational in thought, not just this group, as it is witnessed on many boards, people are for or against Janelle.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
Sunshyne~~~

That's true about sports.

In my daughter's gymnastics days, it was always "the stoopid judges fault" or "the judges like that team better". The judges were'nt fair.

So I guess in effect...wanting things to be fair, we somehow feel we we're wronged. Or the person was wronged on the show was wronged.

US against THEM implies a wrong that someone else is responsible for...doesn't it?

Ummm, am I thinking too much?

Poppy
Member

07-21-2006

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Poppy a private message Print Post    
I don't idolize anyone here besides myself ... okay, I'm joking! I don't idolize anyone, especially after watching American Idol. Now every time I hear the word "idol" or any form of it I cringe in some sense.

No entertainers, no HGs, probably idolized my parents, my grandparents and especially my great-grandparents to a larger extent (especially the younger and more naive I was), but nope, no false idol worship here.

I would like things to be fair, but I try to be a realist, at least as much as possible. I fight against being too idealistic, and have become less so over time and with more varied and difficult life experiences under my belt.

I also choose to be positive and try to look at things from a optimistic and positive point of view, but I'm' not perfect and don't always get there.

US against THEM - what a frightening world we live in when it all becomes so simplistic, and we think we can all read each other so clearly, even if only over the internet.

<100>

What555456
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06-14-2005

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Oh c'mon people. The last 24 hours have been some of the most passionate here this entire season.

Sit back and enjoy it! This is 1/2 the fun!

(And it is 1/2 the fun in sports as well!)

Sisalou
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07-12-2002

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sisalou a private message Print Post    
I think it is always like this every year. If I think some posters are always negative about everything I just skip their posts. I pretty much know what thier attitude is going to be depending on the thread so I just skip over them.

Poppy
Member

07-21-2006

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Poppy a private message Print Post    
Having a great time What, and I may have got modded again, not intentionally. I always try to at least skim by within the bounds of propreitary, just for the mods sake so they have a somewhat easier time.

Spygirl
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04-23-2001

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
We'd have a much easier time if folks stayed away from the known bounds. Just sayin' :-)

Kswheels
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06-30-2005

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kswheels a private message Print Post    
Was just trying to figure ot why you got modded, Poppy.

Poppy
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07-21-2006

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Poppy a private message Print Post    
Sorry Spy - sometimes I digress and just whig out, at least that's my story and I'm sticking to it until my memory goes whacky again.

Poppy
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07-21-2006

Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Poppy a private message Print Post    
KS - I can't even remember what I typed. The board is going too fast and my mind is spinning. I will say that I don't ever try to put something ugly intentionally. That is for sure true.

Spygirl
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04-23-2001

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