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The TVClubHouse: Big Brother 7 All-Stars ARCHIVES: Big Brother 7 All-Stars Part 3: THIS Jury will never vote for Janelle, time to give up?: Archive through August 14, 2006 users admin

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Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
I can't help but wonder what the reaction would have been had Janelle won the first time and had her HoH taken from her.

Aus10
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09-28-2000

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 3:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aus10 a private message Print Post    
Chaos I'm sure Nick......

Wendo
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08-07-2000

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 3:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wendo a private message Print Post    
Nickovtyme, that's something I wonder as well. LOL!

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 4:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
Other times an IMMEDIATE redo is done

It was live tv. Couldnt' to an immediate redo. And Julie doesn't like surprises.

They probably would have let it go, until they checked with their legal department.

Iheartkaysar
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08-16-2005

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 5:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iheartkaysar a private message Print Post    
There was anger that Jenn was not disqualified in the pressure cooker thing. But, IMHO, that proves BB wasn't playing favourites. I'm sure they wanted Kaysar to win.

Nothing has been given to Janelle. She won that POV when there were five people, in theory, working against her. The HOH had to be redone and EVERYONE had a chance to replay, even CG who went out on the first question.

I have no idea what the jury will do for any combination of final two.

Linkers
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08-11-2006

Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 7:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Linkers a private message Print Post    
I dont think with the make up of whos left in the house that Janie would get many votes to win it with anyone that she would be up againest. There is so many in the house that I think cant truely stand her or will still be upset enough by her that a couple weeks or days away isnt going to change that

Beruthiel
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08-07-2000

Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 12:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beruthiel a private message Print Post    
Sometimes I'm amazed at Janelle's ability to bounce back after everything that's been tossed at her, I know I'd have given up long ago, just from the bad feelings because I hate that kind of thing, but Janelle? Never.
The more pressure the more she fights, and so she should. Why should she give up, the whole point of being there is to hang on by one's fingernails by hook or by crook.
Kaysar was criticised because he seemed to have given up, he lost folk's respect, so I hope that once out of the pressure cooker, the HG's in sequester would be fair.
On the other hand, if James is there all bets are off, as he'll surely use his time to kill any chance Janelle might have had for votes.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 3:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
"I can't help but wonder what the reaction would have been had Janelle won the first time and had her HoH taken from her."


I do. Everyone's minds would be changed. Those against the redo, would applaud BB's sense of fair play....while those applauding BB's right now would be screaming foul.

eh....its a game...it is what it is (to quote Dani)


Anyway...back OT...

I remember a similar thread in BB2....for Will... that there was no way he could win because EVERYONE in the house hated him...Heck, that's the main reason Nicole took him to the final two because she thought it was a sure thing for her to win...

Should Janelle quit because she has no chance of winning? Nope...because nothing is certain in this game...and its NOT CERTAIN that Janie won't win...even if everyone hates her guts....

Sharebear
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09-16-2001

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 3:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharebear a private message Print Post    
Okay as said above Janelle is probably the most hated in the house. At this point in the game I'd keep Janelle all the way to the final two. Not because she would or could win or because she is one I love but because it's a strategic move. Plain and simple.

In my opinion last year had one of the maggies turned it may have had a different outcome. Every season there seems to be one we love to hate or vice versa.

Cousin_jake
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07-04-2002

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 7:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cousin_jake a private message Print Post    
At this point, we think that Janie couldn't win in the final two? Maybe, but it all depends on what happens during the evictions. When people feel betrayed by someone when they get evicted it can change their minds. As far as we know, from this point on all evicted HGs are on the jury. If Erica goes on Thursday, will she feel betrayed by Boogie and Will? When the next HG gets to the jury, she will probably learn that Boogie won the Coup, will she be mad that he didn't use it to save her? Who knows? If CT obviously betrays either Janelle/Howie or Dani/James, will that effect the jury? Emotions always sem to play a big roll in the jury's voting each year even when they say they are going to vote for the best player. It all depends on who is in the final 2 and how they get there.

Calimc
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07-15-2006

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 7:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calimc a private message Print Post    
I do think Janelle has a chance of winning against Dani of all people. Dani lost BB3 because lots of the HGs felt that she stabbed them in the back. They felt betrayed because she made them trust her only to find out that they were being used and that she had only one ally, Jason. The same thing is happening now IMO.

The reason why Marci is so angry at Janelle is because she seem so closely tied to CT. Once Marcellas finds out that Dani is in LOD and was actually trying to get him out, he will not give her the win since this will be the second time she does this to him.

I predict Erika will have a similar reaction. She will feel betrayed by Dani. So that would be a possible three votes with Howie and I think the two of them might split CT. I think Boogie would go for Dani and Will will go with Janelle.

At this point I also think Janelle has a chance against Howie. I think CT would give it to Janelle over him...and Dani and erika might give it to her out of respect. Marci will definitely choose Janie over Howie. Another person she has a chance with is Chicken George.

I don't think she has a chance against CT or even James. James have a friendly relationship with the floaters but there was no real allegiance there. The only one he truly betrayed would be Howie. But this will depend on whether he betrayed LOD in getting Janie in the finals.

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
I think Janie is never going to make it to the end as she has too big of a target on her but I think if by some miracle she does hang in there then people on the jury WILL vote for her as she did play the game and she did win HOHs and POVs. I think they will think she derserves it.

Bblovergirl
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07-07-2005

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 9:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bblovergirl a private message Print Post    
If Mike Boogie has won the Coup, this is a moot point. He can use this for the next three evicitions right? Janie will be gone by then and the jury will be voting for either Mike or Will -And my guess is the Dr. Delicious will be 1/2 million richer come Sept. JMHO

Calimc
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07-15-2006

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calimc a private message Print Post    
I think he can use it once in the next three evictions. I don't think he can directly kick out anybody. Just overthrow the HOH and change the nominations. I think it will be foolish if he uses this power when he or Will are not on the block.

Janie's chances right now are with Will. He is the one who wants to keep her around as long as possible to keep the target away from him. I think he may be able to convince Boogie to keep her around.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
BB had already announced the Coup D'Etat...now...how does it make any sense for them to cheat and give the HoH win to Janelle...when Erika ( or anyone else, for that matter) could turn around...win Coup D'Etat and undo Janelle's nominations anyway???

Dusty
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08-15-2005

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 4:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dusty a private message Print Post    
I think at this point, all Janie is concerned about if she gets sequestered is that Dr. Dreamylicious gets sequestered and they share some private time.

But I hope she gets what she wants and I hope that the other twist is that all BB activities, DR's and shows are seen during Sequester. And that camera's should be in that house too...boy would that ever make good tv or not?

Iheartkaysar
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08-16-2005

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 4:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iheartkaysar a private message Print Post    
I think with the exception of Marcellas, and possibly James, these jury members would vote more for who played a good game than based on emotions. And, even James, in all his hatred for Janelle, has said she's good player. Stupid at times (his word, not mine), but he sees how hard she fights. Janey has been played by Will, but she's still here despite being the biggest target from day 1. That says a lot. I think a Will/Janelle/Dani final three would be justice- three of the best players in a showdown.

Mickiej
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07-26-2004

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 4:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mickiej a private message Print Post    
Well, unfortunately Janie has not played the mental game that she was known for last season. True she can handle the contests and competitions, but mentally she hasn't been as strong. When she leaves, which will be soon, I think she will be glad.

On the flip side...I don't see the final 2 coming down to anyone that I feel should have it. I think Will/Mike pulled the wool over the producers eyes and shammed their way in.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 4:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I think Will/Mike pulled the wool over the producers eyes and shammed their way in.

So why shouldn't they win!? Doesn't that make them the best players?

Beruthiel
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08-07-2000

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 5:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beruthiel a private message Print Post    
One of the things that one ought to remember is that Janelle is the youngest in the house, and from that perspective she's also the most trusting, and although she's being criticised for being naive, it's also one of the nicest thinsg about her, that she doesn't easily believe the worst about people.
I'm not confident that she'll be one of the finalists, but if they were fair, I think they'd have to vote for her, considering the immense odds she's beaten getting to where she has with the biggest target on her back since the beginning.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I don't get why so many people think Janelle is an underdog. She was part of the largest alliance in the house. Will only has Boogie. George has no one. Those are underdogs. The S6 members have only themselves to blame for bad strategy...

Beruthiel
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08-07-2000

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 6:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beruthiel a private message Print Post    
They might have been part of the largest alliance, but they also had EVERY other group - meaning very other HG, regardless of alliances - out for their blood from the beginning, precisely because they were the team to beat. They had to fight from the word go or they'd have been nominated and out of the door otherwise.

What555456
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06-14-2005

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 6:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send What555456 a private message Print Post    
Beruthial,

Part of the reason for them being the team to beat was precisely because THEY SET THEMSELVES UP as a team. They did not have to. There is no reason Sov6 had to play together.

It would have made for a very different game if Janelle had come into the house and started building an alliance with the women against the men -- instead of falling for the easy thing of immediately aligning with her BB compatriots from last year.

What might have happened if Kaysar had aligned himself with Will and Mike at the beginning, rather than immediately going with last year's players?

No, Sov6 chose to be a team. No one forced it. Then, once we got past week 1 with the dual HoH, they sat in the HoH bedroom the entire time, strategizing as to who to evict -- and expecting people to come groveling to them and explain themselves to them.

Then, they purposely set about going after those who were unaligned -- to kick them out. With the exception of James (the only one of the 4 who seems to understand this game) they refused to make overtures to the non-aligned and they focused all of their power on them.

They set themselves up as a team having power and then they acted like one.

Kaysar is gone. Janelle is hated. Howie is an appendage to Janelle, nothing more. And James, the one who refused to be permanently linked in that team but has worked with the rest of the house, is doing just fine fighting his way through.

They have only themselves to blame for being targeted.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 6:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Well said What!

I think James is playing a heck of a game!

Beruthiel
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08-07-2000

Monday, August 14, 2006 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beruthiel a private message Print Post    
I'd disagree with you on one thing What, that they expected to be a team in the house, because several of them have said to other Hgs that they were ASSUMED to be a team as soon as all four of them got in, and they wished otherwise, but, since everyone assumed they were together, they had no other option.
That's why this Allstars was a bad idea in the first place, because of all the assumptions due to everyone knowing everyone else.
I do agree with some of your points however, re their mistakes, but they were sort of railroaded into being a team.