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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:11 pm
Yes I only saw 1 show...and only a portion of it...and no if done right, a show talking about sex and sexual habits is not in and of itself trashy...But I thought this one was really catering to the lowest common denominator...Clearly not as physical and loud as Springer...but I do think it was aimed at the same audience...Jerry Springer show has been on so long for a reason. There are many viewers who enjoy that kind of show...just not my cup of tea...
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:12 pm
Re: Ablow show I watched an episode yesterday. It was about a wife who thought her husband was cheating on her with his ex wife, who he had 4 children with. Apparently people were telling the wife that the guy, Rick (?) was cheating, but that she had no proof. Well, then the ex wife gets on stage yelling and pointing about how the new wife broke up her marriage, and that she's been having sex with Rick behind her back! Ok, the whole time these two women were arguing and yelling about this, the guy just sat there and weakly denied sleeping with the ex. Dr. Ablow's solution: Rick is to take a lie detector test right there on the stage so that the women will know the truth. I changed the channel at this point, laughing my azz off. We all know how reliable polygraphs are! Yes, this seemed trashy to me.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:14 pm
We'll maybe we can say the show is unpredictable...some good episodes, some not so good 
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Lucyfan
Member
12-08-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:18 pm
Why doesn't Will just leave Janelle alone? A wise woman whose opinion I value alot answers the question this way.... Will CAN'T leave Janelle alone. He adores her. He adores their friendship. Ask yourself, why are most here such Janie fans? Why did we cheer her on for two seasons? Why did we lose sleep waiting for the feeds to come back and praying she'd won the POV? Why are we still invested in her life 6 months after the show ended? We adore her. I'd love to have a friend like Janelle. Mainly because she's so unlike me! If I'd been on BB6 with her I know I'd adore her and want to remain good friends. It's not too great a leap for me to think maybe Will feels the same way. And by the same token, Janelle can't seem to stay away from Will either. Yes, he called her to invite (beg?!) to his chat BUT she didn't have to go. She always has the power to say no. (And I think sometimes she does when she's miffed at him!) But, I think there's value to their friendship for her as well. Even in her JU chat, she calls him sweet and a friend. I posted awhile back why I think they're close friends (for now anyway). There is only ONE person they can talk to who will TOTALLY understand what the past 9 months have been like for them. I think every HG belongs to this quirky fraternity of being on BB. They relate to each other and some are even friends. But, only Will and Janelle know what it's like to be "Will and Janelle" and go through the most bizarre thing I've seen in my 5 years as a fan of this show. Again, ask yourself, if you were them, wouldn't you want to hold on to the only friend who can truly relate and understand? Maybe they not only want to be friends, they need to be friends. A friend who understands is priceless.
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Charlottesweb
Member
12-14-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:25 pm
Just a question: any of you calling the Dr. Ablow show "trash tv", have you actually watched it? I'll have to confess, I've never watch the Ablow Show. Just going by what I've heard. No one I know has anything good to say about it. Then again you have to look at that bad crowd I run with. Women in their 70's married for 50 or more years and worse than that, married to the same man for that long. Horrible people. I didn't think sex, or talking during sex is trashy, but maybe that's just me. Sex????? What's that? OH.......yes now I remember. Wasn't so bad, Doc....Kinda good. (bad mocking of Ch. George)
Ok, now I'll go to my room for 15 minutes.
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Twirlsalot
Member
01-16-2007
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:31 pm
I'm just gonna but right in with my opinion: I came across this clip a few weeks ago and felt that it kinda explained why Erin might take him back. (around the 1:30 mark) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B5PDMsMH1E I think that maybe their relationship was still on the "you go figure out what you want and maybe I'll still be here for you when you come back" phase at the VH1 awards. Clearly, something changed before Christmas. As for Janelle and RV. I think that they had a open relationship where they could both see other people. So what if he gave her a nice bauble for Christmas. He's rich and she's beautiful, that's how those things tend to work. Will's recent behavior in chats with Janie makes me feel like this 
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Leosmom
Member
10-30-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:32 pm
Oh dear...I am getting that feeling again...but I can't imagine what could possibly happen now...hmmm
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:42 pm
Twirlsalot...I think you are on to something...So if Will had gotten out of the house and said "I am attracted to Janelle. She is hot and a great person. But I have been building something with Erin and I am in love with Erin." ... well Erin seemingly would have understood, and Janelle wouldn't have been strung along, and the fans wouldn't have felt as if he was playing anyone...
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Charlottesweb
Member
12-14-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:44 pm
Leosmom:Oh dear...I am getting that feeling again...but I can't imagine what could possibly happen now...hmmm NO!NO! Don't you dare. Take several deep breaths. Run and take a cold shower or something. Go drink a glass of wine. BTW, is your Mom still checking your trash container for empty bottles? lol
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:45 pm
When the two women on the show above started yelling at each other, Dr. Ablow stepped in, and stopped them. Yelling and screaming is not the kind of show he does, typically. He always asks people to be civil. Kind of like TVCH. If the lowest common denominator talks about talking during sex, well, I guess that's me. Apparently, I'm not as classy as some of your friends. Frankly, if Ablow was trashy like Springer, or obnoxiously confrontational like Dr. Phil, his show wouldn't be being cancelled. He's polite, he keeps people calm, and he talks about issues. I've seen many shows where he has effected reconciliations in families that seemed irretrievably broken. Some of his shows I don't care for. But since I watch several days a week (having the luxury of working at home), I certainly wouldn't call it trashy, nor is it anything like Jerry Springer, or Povich. I just hate to see something mischaracterized based on a few errant posts. /rant off
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Sunshower
Member
10-31-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:48 pm
quote:Oh dear...I am getting that feeling again...but I can't imagine what could possibly happen now...hmmm
Try Metamucil. It'll knock it right out 
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Twirlsalot
Member
01-16-2007
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:49 pm
Bonbon - I think basically that Erin may have given him the freedom to decide who he wanted to be with (maybe by putting their relationship on hold a bit, w/o officially breaking up) figuring if he chose Janelle, he really never loved her that much anyway and if he came back to her, then it would have been his CHOICE not obligation.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:55 pm
If that was the case...Bravo Erin, you handled it well
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Charlottesweb
Member
12-14-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:08 pm
Twirlsalot: think basically that Erin may have given him the freedom to decide who he wanted to be with (maybe by putting their relationship on hold a bit, w/o officially breaking up) figuring if he chose Janelle, he really never loved her that much anyway and if he came back to her, then it would have been his CHOICE not obligation. Sounds plausible. Still doesn't excuse his internet behavior since Jan. leading everyone on to believe that he still was interested in Janelle.
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Ivory_mist
Member
08-31-2005
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:13 pm
If Will loves Erin, he should leave Janelle alone. Cosign that!
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Kjwfan
Member
12-05-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:20 pm
True, she should expect that from Will. However, if she got over the VH1 award "date", anything is possible. Yes, but in a loving relationship, you shouldn't have to get over things like your SO other going on a public date with another woman or flirting with another woman on the Internet. Take the same scenario out of the context of it involving Will Kirby for a minute. If your sister or daughter was dating a guy who was seen by lots of people on a date with another woman and she got over it that indiscretion, would you be thinking it okay for him to contimue publicly flirting with the woman he went on this date with?
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Xena
Member
11-29-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:21 pm
quote:If Will loves Erin, he should leave Janelle alone.
I agree, but do you think he will? Is he ready to retire the rollercoaster, or will he pull another stunt?
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Sunshower
Member
10-31-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:23 pm
You guys realize that there's going to be no 'leaving alone' between Will and Janelle, right? LOL
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Janedoe
Member
12-07-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:23 pm
New tribute "The Weakness in Me" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbXBQh-vpo4
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Kjwfan
Member
12-05-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:24 pm
Will CAN'T leave Janelle alone. He adores her. He adores their friendship. And by the same token, Janelle can't seem to stay away from Will either. That may be true. But is it fair to Erin and Ross? If we were talking about people other than Will and Janelle would everyone be cool with what's going on? Would you want your BF or GF to behave in this same manner?
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Charlottesweb
Member
12-14-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:25 pm
Leosmom: Oh dear...I am getting that feeling again...but I can't imagine what could possibly happen now...hmmm Really I've been having strong feelings since yesterday that this the small storm before a cat5 hurricane. I think the 'you know what' is about to hit the fan.
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Twirlsalot
Member
01-16-2007
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:26 pm
Charlotte - ITA, I don't think there is an excuse for Will's behavior the past couple of months, particularily regarding the chats with Janelle. I was just trying to explain why I thought Erin was still with him. I personally don't appreciate Will playing people, Janelle or the fans. I think Janelle is tired of his games, as am I, and I hope she distances herself from him.
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Kjwfan
Member
12-05-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:26 pm
You guys realize that there's going to be no 'leaving alone' between Will and Janelle, right? LOL If that is the case, then they should be leaving Erin and Ross alone.
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Sunshower
Member
10-31-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:28 pm
Kjwfan: We don't know what goes on behind closed doors - or what doesn't - only what they want us to 'know' on Ablow stages and on the internet.
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:29 pm
Karuuna, point taken, since I only watched a small part of one episode of Dr. Ablow, perhaps I should not have made that judgement. After reading your post I had this random thought: "Big Brother - hey, that is ONE CLASSY SHOW!!" LOL - several of my friends chide me for watching BB because they consider it 'trash'.

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