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Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 6:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I skimmed the last few posts. Most of these people have shown they have the loyalty of a gnat.
? Howie Janelle Kaysar Danielle Nakomis Jase ..all stayed loyal without falter to their original small alliance. However, I do see your point and agree that most of the HGs seem that way.

I feel that this show is partially scripted. I watch feeds enough to notice if things seem a little coincidental.

If not partially scripted I'd suggest that a plotline is encouraged from the DR.

Nynana
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05-31-2005

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 7:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nynana a private message Print Post    
If not partially scripted I'd suggest that a plotline is encouraged from the DR.


And we know from the Boogie DR that leaked onto feeds that he had to do a second take on one DR. So DR's are rehearsed...could be.

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 7:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonzacat a private message Print Post    
They are "led" in the Diary Room every season. Producers ask them questions based on the story lines they are putting together for the shows, among other things. Every season.

Nynana
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05-31-2005

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nynana a private message Print Post    
I know that Bonza, but it was funny in the leaked DR when Boogie had to do it twice to get it right...I think it is a little more than leading. They have to do it though or these people would not open their mouth to talk.

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonzacat a private message Print Post    
Nynana - I think it was last season that I heard a HG say something about "the writers", which I thought was pretty telling.

I know if I was in the Diary Room trying to tell my deepest thoughts (which would be when pigs fly), I'd be doing a few takes, also!

Nynana
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05-31-2005

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 7:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nynana a private message Print Post    
Bonza, pigs would have to fly and he!! freeze over before I would too.

I have to laugh though, I just watched the link Clio put in chatters on Nickie from the UK in the DR. OMG!

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 7:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I agree about it being partially scripted in the DR. I think that also applies to some of the so called stunts they pull, too. (IMO)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I suspect that the DR people make lots of suggestions to the HGs. Also, I would think that they allow re-takes in the DR. It's too easy to stumble when you are just talking to a mirror. Of course, that doesn't mean that it's totally fake or scripted.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 7:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
On his restaurant's website, Mike lists one of his acting credits as: Plays the character Boogie on the Big Brother television show. I think for some of them, this is just another acting gig which is totally unfair to people like George and Nakomis.

Willi
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Willi a private message Print Post    
<<<On his restaurant's website, Mike lists one of his acting credits as: Plays the character Boogie on the Big Brother television show.>>>

Ah ha.
So that's who/what he was playing in the box the other day...

Cliotheleo
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03-13-2002

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 7:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cliotheleo a private message Print Post    
George isn't acting? "Aluminum Man" is his real persona?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Now that is silly! Of course, Aluminum Man is an act.

George is really a Chicken Man acting as an Aluminum Man!

Willi
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Willi a private message Print Post    
LOL

Caycaye
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09-14-2001

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Caycaye a private message Print Post    
In my estimable OPINION....(LOL)....

IF there is a real "secret alliance" (ala Lisa's chat)and Lisa is to be BELIEVED....from what she said....I think the alliance is:
Will,Boogie,Marcellas and JANELLE !!!
because Lisa said it is FOUR people....she admitted to Will,Boogie, Marcellas....

THEN she said...NOT Kaysar, NOT James....ONE of the members is a WOMAN!!! DUH????
And ONE member is of the BB6 ers.... DUH...

And TWO of the members of this "secret alliance" hardly EVER talk to one another.....DUH...

I have heard Will say at least four times TODAY alone...."I haven't seen Janelle all DAY!"

DUH!!!! How more SHOCKING could it be than Janie??? Will and Boogie have "targeted" Janie from Day 1...but now that I think of it....NOT when they are ALONE...but in front of Jase, Ch George, etc.

And Lisa said Marcellas was her best freind...and I KNOW from Marci's website that it is TRUE that he and Lisa are BEST friends...and Marci has also said he LOVES Janelle and keeps in contact with her all the time....And I already heard Marci doing "damage control" today with Diane on Janie's behalf...Thus....my THEORY...for what it is worth...

Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
-I think BB needs to do something, just not sure what yet. Of course I doubt they will but I'm wondering if this isn't illegal in some ways. I would LOVE to see the laws of what constitutes reality TV and I would love more to see their contracts! But maybe they need to make it so every HG needs to name one other member in the DR that they will always remain loyal to or their winnings are cut in half. smoke some of them out. Not sure that is the best I can come up with, still thinking.

There are definitely rules concerning game shows. Standards and Practices thru the FCC (the ones who fined the network after the Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction) gives several criteria.

However, I do know that reality shows have argued that they don't fall under the jurisdiction of game show rules. Mark Burnett, the producer of Survivor, argued this in the Survivorgate case (from way back in season one) where Stacy Stillman sued CBS claiming the players on her tribe were manipulated by the producers into booting her instead of Rudy. Her case was settled out of court, so there was no ruling based on that case about what criteria, if any, reality shows must follow.

I'm not sure if other criteria for reality shows as oppsed to game shows exist with the FCC or if game show rules do indeed apply. If game show rules DO apply, then the producers CANNOT manipulate the results but may be able to manipulate other aspects. (This was settled long ago during the quiz show scandals when "popular" contestants were kept on to increase audiences.) If game show rules DON'T apply, then I guess the only rules are whatever CBS says BB must follow to insure the integrity of the show so that we all don't wander off and stop watching, disillusioned. Then again, if CBS/BB thinks we're gullible, they may feel free to do whatever they want to manipulate things and there may not be any consequences from the FCC.

I do think, though, since the show is advertized as a game someone "wins" they may actually have to follow FCC gameshow rules, which is why I think CBS settled the Survivor Stillman case since they thought they'd lose. I tried googling FCC rules but didn't easily spot anything useful. It would be interesting to track down that info.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 8:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
This is not considered a game show. To the FCC this falls into the same category as WWE wrasslin'.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
isnt WWE a totally scripted drama?:-)