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Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 10:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
OK, we've been privy to the new twist of 2 HOHs, and the new rule that they must agree to the two nominees, or the HOHs themselves get put up on the block.

So we have Jase and Janelle as HOH, and Danielle working the numbers with George, Diane, and Alison, to convince Jase to disagree, and they all vote out Janelle, to start breaking up the BB6 alliance.

I'm seeing various discussions of this info, and future gameplay all over the board, so I figured I'd start a thread here, where maybe we could debate the game as we know it so far.

I saw C1mag bring up a good point about Danielle in another thread. Her own paranoia is making her go after BB6, but that isn't going to do her much good past this week. She's made 5 other enemies on that team, and she has come out playing HARD to the people she IS confiding in. I have to agree with C1 that this will put a target on her back for sure.


Now Alison has gone and blabbed the plan to James, and this shows she is playing it too. I think she's setting herself up to be nobody's ally.

Many of us are lamenting that this is taking all the heat off getting Will out of the game. (Ed: HELLO?!?! We've been begging to see more of him, and now we want him out right away?)

I think this game is COMPLETELY going to be different than previous years. I love Arnie's new twist, and I think it's great for the group of houseguests we have this year.

I really think that people may THINK they are targets right away, but EVERYONE has something you should be wary of, and there are reasons to want to get rid of each and every player right away. The only ones I think are safe are Chicken George and Erika, because there are no strong feelings toward them, and they never came across as strong players. At the same time, when there are so many friendships in that house, I would wonder if that makes those "lame players" MORE vulnerable, based on ingroup/outgroup status.

I'd love to hear what others think about what we've heard so far, and how they feel everyone is playing the game so far.

Wendo
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 10:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wendo a private message Print Post    
I don't want to see anyone out the game right away, specifically Will. (Well, except maybe George. He's just NOT a fave of mine.) But, as the lone winner among those in the house, he's an excellent first week nominee. He's an easy target and an easy suggestion when the topic comes up.

Janelle starts ruminating, Oh, who should we put up???

Someone can say, Gosh, that's a tough one. Well, Will already won once so he could be an easy nominee.

Just my thinking.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 10:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I am just listening to those Captured Audio files.

Interestingly Howie is giving someone a blow by blow description of how far Janelle went and implying what a THREAT she is.

Nice guy LOL HEY,he did it BB6 why would I think he wouldnt do it this game LOL

I feel that we arent hearing RealTIME feeds. It just is too choppy and there isnt any continuity.

I think that bits and pieces have been leaked to create some frenzied interest....AND IT WORKED !

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 10:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
But then Wendo, how does she put up Will, when Jase is her "co-HOH"??

The whole need to agree will make nominations and alliances hard. I think George and Nakomis could be easy targets this week, unless Jase realizes he needs the numbers, or Danielle convinces him to disagree with Danielle.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 10:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
And where is Marcellus in all of this. I can se him coasting too. I wonder if he's at an advantage in that he makes BB HIS LIFE every year with Housecalls, and hears everyone's take on the game. I wonder if his brain is better shaped to play now, than most of the others.

Wendo
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wendo a private message Print Post    
Well, Eeyore, I imagine that's the point of two HOH's, getting consensus. LOL!

I have no idea HOW Janelle would get Will nominated. But, if anyone could do it, Janelle could, I think.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Sunshyne, I just ventured to a couple of the other boards to see if they had more of the audio captured and posted in logs or discussion, cause I was having a heck of a hard time hearing it. I read a post that I thought made an excellent point, and you just said something quite similar.

They were speculating that it seemed quite odd that the feeds came on, managed to capture every single voice in the house, and magically spelled out the major twists and most people's strategy. Once I thought about it I had to agree...how often do the feeds get EVERYONE in the house talking in such a relatively short period of time, let alone about everything major. I believe their point was this was done to drum up interest or to mess with us. I would think the first.

Of course all that said, I still don't get why the heck we just can't get the blasted feeds from when they move in!

And I must say I have begged for a twist that would make the game more interesting/less predictable and amazingly I think I got that! Still can't believe Arnie came up with this hehehe.

Last random thought for now, what I don't get is why so many seem to be burning alliance bridges so early, unless things really are out of context. You would think most of these folks would know better than that. I think this is interesting, but I'm taking it with the whole salt shaker full of salt, because even if it was somehow what everyone was saying today, we know how fast things can change in that house. By the time we get the feeds there might be completely realigned alliances (and that might have happened several times previously lolol).

Tk27
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07-04-2004

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tk27 a private message Print Post    
Sun there is no way this was leaked to the internet people on purpose. The TV game is a much bigger player than the internet. Its all about ratings on TV. This was for BB a block buster concept taking it one step further than survivor. Who will get in the house? If we already know many people may not turn on there TV's and TV is where the money is.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
LOL while I was writing my earlier post you all were busy posting. I don't understand why they aren't going after Ali and Danielle...folks who aren't especially friends with either of them but who are big time players who need to be taken out. If they were smart they would do themselves and us a favor and get Ali out this week! IMHO of course (should be self-explainatory, since what else would I post but MHO, but lately feel a need to mention this).

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Sunshyne, you mentioned somewhere else another good point:

If HOHs have to agree, or risk getting nominated, then why would anyone WANT to win HOH?

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
My take on why someone would want to be HoH is that if you get it with someone you share an alliance with, then you are all set. And I think the hopes are that this will force folks to spill their hand and shake up alliances, since I feel it is VERY unlikely that any HoH would be willing/stupid enough to put themselves up.

They still have power, just not as much and not as attractive as before.

And Tk I most respectfully disagree with you. The only ones who would have caught this info (unless the press jumps on it) is the die-hard interenet fans. You really think any of us are not gonna watch Thursday???? LOLOL I'd take that bet, in cash even!

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
OK, here's who I think are aligned:

Jase
Will
Boogie



James (weak ally)
Howie
Janelle
Kaysar
Marcellus
Erika


Danielle
Alison (weak)
Diane
Nakomis
George





Now are there GRUDGES we should take into account? Do Diane and Jase hate each other? What's with Marcellus and Danielle?

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Eey it appears that the goal would be to tandem the hoh contests. In other words you want it but you want it with someone you are aligned with.

What I love about this new concept of double hoh is that it assures nothing. There is still a complete unknown. You may win it but the other person who wins it with you may never agree with your nominations and it sets you up to be nominated and booted. The part we don't know about is... if both HOH members are nominated for lack of coming up with nominees who becomes the new hoh's?

Tk27
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07-04-2004

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tk27 a private message Print Post    
Well Lurk I have to disagree again LOL! Because I have already told 3 TV watchers only what has happened and I would imagine I'm not the only one to do that.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Actually this new HOH is very wicked because even if you don't agree with the person you are hoh with you would have to really know the house vote in advance to be willing to put yourself up for nomination and if there is a veto and the other person nominated against you gets that veto you are just about hosed. And we still don't even know how veto works or if there is one. Very good Arnie. I'm impressed so far.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Tk I'm telling no one!! hahaha actually I couldn't wait to tell my wife. She told me to tell Dani to ... SHUT UP! hahahaha

Tk27
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07-04-2004

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tk27 a private message Print Post    
i would think at the start the two HOH thing should be easy. But as the game progress's it will get harder. Do you agree to put your secret partner up or yourself. It means you really need a group of 3 and not 2. Interesting dynamic I think.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
lol TK, well since we are just disagreeing all over the place, guess we'll just have to do the friendly agree to disagree thang! That or fist fight but you'd win so let's skip that eh? lol. But one question--are those 3 folks you told going to skip the show Thursday? I still think anyone who is interested enough to watch is gonna watch.

And I just thought of another interesting point the HG might be wise to consider (if they know it lol). While we don't know how, they have already announced that the viewers will be more involved then ever in the way the game goes--or something to that effect.

If that is true, they should consider being smarter about going after the most popular players so early, cause if they ever need our help support it sure isn't gonna be there for them! Wonder if they know this--I think that info was out before they went into sequester, wasn't it?

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
C1, wouldn't they still be HOHs until one of them is voted out?

What will happen in a "tiebreaker" vote? There is no "odd vote" HOH now.....PURPLE ROCK!!!

It will also be interesting to see how POV works.

I agree about wanting to win in tandem, but then, if two of your alliance win one week, that takes BOTH of you out of the HOH competition for next week, which could be painful.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I think Alison and Diane could be a cool girl power alliance. Both were quite dirty in their gameplay, and I think they would feed off each other.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
LATE BREAKING THOUGHT/QUESTION!!!

If there is POV then who decides who the replacement is? Can't see them having the HoH have to mutually decide again. So bet either POV is a thing of the past, or there will be some changes there too!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I need to think this through a bit more. This big Twist is a LEMON!!

GET IT! lemon Bwa ha ha ha

This is more silly than the veto. IF someone chooses to use the VETO they have a target placed firmly on their back. I cant see one reason any HOH will choose to disagree with Noms.

I can imagine that a truce will come to be. HOH A chooses a HG and HOH B chooses a HG. Both will agree to allow the other a choice of ONE.

No one would be foolish enough to repeatedly stir up the house and cause trouble.

Nope this is a lame twist that is going to mean nothing in the long run EXCEPT it MAY keep the game more evenly matched instead of one alliance picking off another week after Week which happened BB6.

C1mag
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07-12-2005

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send C1mag a private message Print Post    
Unless you can compete for the following HOH even if you had it the previous time? The new rules will be interesting.

If you are nominated I would find it strange that you would still have the privileges of an HOH.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Janie had to go through this last year when her secret partner was nominated first.. same with Kaysar

Tk27
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07-04-2004

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tk27 a private message Print Post    
Ok Lurk I only have time to disagree once more before bedtime LOL! I will catch your reply in the morning. Its not just TV watchers alone but it is internet TV watchers who wouldn't have missed that episode for the world. But I have seen many people on this board already who have conflicting schedules with the opening. It would be alot easier now to miss it with the knowledge we have now. No way a giant TV station is going to take that risk of losing TV viewers just to get interest on the internet. Not going to happen. (Bush (the old one) impersonation there). I will just say Arnie is not a very happy boy right now!!!!!!!!!