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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:36 pm
Sunshyne, not so sure they would just agree to each pick one, especially if the numbers don't favor one side. Would you just agree to put up someone in your alliance if you count heads and know for sure they would be voted out? I would think they would work hard to get the other person to agree to someone else. At least this twist is different and has some potential. And I have a feeling there's a lot more we have to learn to see how it all fits together. The only thing I really don't like about this is it will really favor stronger/larger alliances who will then be able to take control of the house. That, to me, would really stink and be quite boring. Hope they figured a way around that.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:36 pm
Geez I need to get some sleep LOL I am completely missing my point. the POV was basically useless unless the person on the block WON it. This Double HOH gimmick will not be very exciting either. Whom is going to chance the options??
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:36 pm
Lurk I was all over that thought as well. Thats why I wondered who becomes hoh if the two hoh's are nominated. The only solution to the pov is the following ... 1. A new HOH by draw or comp would pick who is nominated if the veto is used. 2. The winner of the veto decides who is nominated if they use it. 3. As suggested .. there is no veto which would suck and I hope that if they eliminated it that there is some last chance for those nominated to get saved. Makes the game so much more interesting.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:38 pm
I'd like to think the leak was from some cool production person, that knows they can't be PERSONALLY found out, and likes us internet people, and edited together a little "sumthin'" for us. I am really thinking it was put together though. Live feeds are rarely that interesting with every person talking all at once.
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:39 pm
Sun I actually think the double HOH is awesome. It's the whole concept of wanting it and not wanting it vs NEEDING it at a certain point. It would be a constant mindscrew. So who would want it? Everyone really will want it at a certain point if they think they have come up with a way to use it for their benefit yet there will always be that unknown question ... Will it work? Is it worth the risk? I love it!
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Wendo
Member
08-07-2000
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:39 pm
If, say, the HOH's are unable to come to consensus, they get nominated and one gets off by POV. That one HOH who saved themself would, I imagine, nominate the replacement. So, there is no problem if the HOH's get nommed and POV is won and one comes off. The HOH that comes off nominates the replacement. I imagine that's how it would work.
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Tk27
Member
07-04-2004
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:42 pm
As for the leak today. Was it a cool person. I don't know. As much as I loved what happened today at the same time I'm really disappointed that I'm not going to be sitting on pins and needles watching the TV show wondering what was going to happen. Happy and sad all at the same time. I have always thought we should get a live TV show and feed immediately after. Then this would never happen.
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:42 pm
and whats great about this new hoh is that you may be real happy for one of the people who won it but real concerened about the other one who won it. Plus if you won it there may be no joy seeing the other winner. It won't always be a jump up and shout with glee moment. Keep them on their toes.
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Tanzanite
Member
06-29-2005
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:42 pm
Lurk, I have a feeling that some of your early summer posting made it further than you imagined it would. I know that I could have read your concepts and turned them around to be just this fresh twist. Either way Good deal Arnie. Maybe you seeded some thoughts Lurk thanks if that was the case.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:42 pm
I like the idea of POV winner doing the nomination.
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Wendo
Member
08-07-2000
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:43 pm
"if both HOH members are nominated for lack of coming up with nominees who becomes the new hoh's?" No one becomes the new HOH. It's not necessary that a new HOH gets chosen. And, if a nominated HOH wins POV or gets removed by POV, then they're probably HOH again; at least until the next HOH is won.
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Wendo
Member
08-07-2000
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:45 pm
I can see it only being a jump up and glee moment when you win HOH with a friend. Say, Janelle wins it with Kaysar. Or, Will and Boogie win it. That type of situation. I suppose the POV winner could do the nomination too if they use the POV. I'm with you C1, I like the idea of a dual HOH.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:45 pm
Tk..first LOL I should be tucked in too. But slept in WAY too late today dang it! But may try to turn in anyway. Tell ya what. Let's see how the ratings turn out Thursday, and also you can tell me if all the folks you told watch or not...then we'll see. K?! I say it's creating more buzz. The more I think of it, the more I'm thinking the show has a new PR team in place. First there was all the early voting buzz. So this seems like a continuation to this PR man (who's a woman lolol). C1...agree totally no veto would suck. If one alliance gets strong, and there is no veto then they can just sit back and pick off whoever they want. That would be the most painful and boring thing to watch I could think of. Let's hope they are NOT that stupid. HEY just had another as I was typing this. Think there is any chance WE vote for who we want safe? They said we would be more involved in the outcome than ever. And might make for some interesting dynamics if they see who we save? And if it's God forbid a pay per call thing, then they would earn yet more $$$. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!????? of course I still have no clue who would choose the replacement, but could see the rest if they are smart!
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Tk27
Member
07-04-2004
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:46 pm
One other thing about leaks. Everyone said survivor allstars sucked. Well I liked it but one thing I didn't like was that I heard a rumour before the first show even aired that Rob and Amber were in the finals. Kind of ruined it for me just like BB opener will be. Good thing BB is live time after thursday night.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:51 pm
LOL thanks Tanzy but unless I had some ideas I forgot about, not sure how they would apply with my immunity search idea etc. Unless you mean how I said something about how that way no one would ever be totally safe. If so like my idea better lol. This one has me really worried about a bunch of bullies getting together and controlling the house, and it becoming too predictable/boring. Tk see the sleep thing is going well lolol. Ditto here hehehe
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 12:01 am
Since we are all talking about the things that were caught on vid today did anyone else catch Will working on Jase? Will convinces Jase that he "Will" would never stab Boogie in the back but of course makes sure Jase realizes Boogie would stab Will in the back. So this gets Jase thinking... "Wow I align with these two and when it gets down to us three me and Mike could get rid of Will. I would Rock in this game." While Will is thinking... "Here's my sucker! Wait til I tell Boogie about our lamb. Not only is this guy one of the current hoh's which means we are safe but he's competitive enough to do all our work for us and we use him all the way to the end then boot his ass." I believe Boogie and Will have made an alliance to the end of this game and anyone in that house that believes otherwise truly is stupid. They've made it too much of an issue for it not to be questioned.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 2:06 am
It would be a constant mindscrew. AGREED!! I agree with TK on this one. I think we have had some of the excitement and anticipation lost since we now basically know what has gone on in the house. I feel much more centred since I know (have heard) HGs Will the rating drop for the show?? Probably not, but I agree with TK that it will be a little anticlimatic when we already know the outcome of the first HOH. Like TK, I also had a number of Survivors ruined by released info. (leaks?) But in this case,BB is a live show so we are just ruined "a little bit" LOL All will be forgiven in a day or two
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Nikkal
Member
08-19-2005
| Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 5:14 am
One thing about this 'leak' - it's sure spiked our interest! I think a deliberate leak is a great idea, $$ wise. Fans will still watch the premiere (either 'live' or TIVO'd) just to see the reactions of the HGs when chosen. Hardcore fans like us will want to check out body language, etc, to see if we can really believe what we heard in the audio. Another money aspect for CBS - you can bet Real had a huge spike in subs during the leak - I know there were people on this board that signed up immediately while we were posting the blow-by-blow in the 'Sound' thread. If Real makes money - CBS makes money. Does anyone watch 'Lost'? The internet crowd made that show into a phenomenon, TPTB have stated it publicly, and with props to the 'net crowd during broadcasts. I think Arnie & Co have caught on. On to gameplay - I think the co-HOH is awesome! It's going to make for a very complicated game, and major stress for the HGs. My main complaint about BB6 was the lack of scheming, and mental calculation, and that worry about 'what if'. Add in whatever other surprises are in store for the hamsters (I hope there's plenty) and it should keep everyone on their toes. As far as HOH replacement (if nominated and booted) Wendo's idea is a good one. We've seen them do alot of things with HOH (shortened, no HOH) so it's anybody's guess how they'll handle that one.
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Auntfer
Member
08-24-2005
| Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 6:42 am
If the double HOH"S can't agree, I'd say let them each pick a person to nominate so you yourself wouldn't be nominated. That way, someone from each alliance would be up and let the house decide who to evict. This is awsome, will the house think the first 2 hoh's will become secret alliances? I can't wait for them to show the conversation between Jannelle and Jase. If it's true they will try to get Jase to backdoor Janelle, I'd tell Janelle to ask Jase first who he'd nominate and just agree with him. LOL
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 6:50 am
I am wondering if they they told them which 6 got voted in and which 6 got placed in by the producers. If they know who got voted in, I wonder if that will come into play at all. I would want to get the ones who were most popular with the public out in case the public was going to have some input down the road.
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Springer
Member
03-12-2004
| Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 6:51 am
I still think that this 'leak' was just way too good to be true. Go back and read the thread "Sound On the Feeds". It is almost exactly 1 hour from start to finish of when the feeds started until no sound was heard......and by 30 minutes into it, we've heard all 14 voices. Nikkal: 3:37 she starts thread....she hears voices. Springer: 4:11 states that we have already heard the 14 peoples voices. Care28: 4:40 hears no more sound That was just too convenient. It's almost like the old days and they put on a one hour radio show for us.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 7:01 am
C1, I think the Boogie/Will thing is a no-brainer. All the HGs (except George of course) know Boogie and Will are close in RL, and have a 5 year friendship. I think the Will/Boogie pair will be a simple single week nomination, just to break up a known alliance. If the HOHs are from opposing sides (see my list above), I could see Will and Boogie being thrown up there just to break them up. They come as a pair, and either alliance would be wise to pull them into their fold as swing voteS (plural). That being said, having two more people to add to your own team's numbers is great, but everyone knows those two would screw you in a heartbeat, so it's best to just get them out, rather than leave BOTH in there to flip on you.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 7:11 am
Whatever it was, I am so excited I can hardly stand it! Can't wait for it to start tommorrow night! My sister will be getting the feeds for the first time this year...lol...she doesn't have a clue how much sleep she is fixing to loose! I called and told her all the latest scoop/twist. I think this has the possibility to be the best season ever...of course anything will be better than last years "Friendship House". Kinda wish Dana had made it in instead of Erika, but still very excited and you all are the greatest at getting the scoop early! "IT WILL BE A CONSTANT MINDSCREW" Wow couldn't ask for more!!! Lets hope so...Remember Jee's face when Michelle was evicted!!! Now that was a classic!! Let the mind screwing begin.
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Nikkal
Member
08-19-2005
| Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 7:19 am
Nikkal: 3:37 she starts thread....she hears voices. LOL Springer! I've been accused of hearing 'voices' that had nothing to do with BB - when the audio started, I was scared I was losing it! So...when you say 'way too good to be true', do you mean as in the leak was planned, and what was actually being discussed in the house, or do you think we'll find out it was just to mess with us, and none of it will turn out to be real?
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 7:39 am
I think it's an "in-between" of your choices Nikkal. I bet all those conversations were REAL, and were recorded as expected, but I doubt they happened all at the same time. And then someone clipped out the highlights of the past few days, and put together a montage, and leaked it for us.
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