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Myla
Member
06-21-2006
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 11:58 am
Ps- ment to say nobody on the board hates the Sov6 that I know of. All of the players want them gone. Nak and Di are just the most vocal but certainly not the biggest threat by a long shot.
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Smrtass
Member
09-11-2000
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 12:11 pm
Regarding the question of how some of us might dislike the Sov6 this year, when we loved them last year, even though their behavior might be the same. My first response to that is a profound: SO? I don't feel obligated to like a player one season because I loved them in the previous one. These aren't my lifelong friends and I don't need to be loyal to them. Heck, I'm not even loyal in a complete season. I hated Will Kirby in the early part of Season 2, but I was certainly pulling for him to win by the end. Had his behavior changed? I don't think so, but the situation around him changed, and so did my perspective (as well as Nicole's increasingly psycho behavior). I hated Boston Rob in his first season of Survivor, but grew to like him in the All-Star season and loved loved loved him in the Amazing Race. I hated Jase in Season 4, but think he's a very interesting player this season. I loved Dani in her season, and I hope she sticks around a lot longer in this one. Will is so entertaining that I'm not sure how I feel about him, but Boogie still annoys the ever loving shit out of me. (He has been interesting and entertaining a time or two, though.) My point is, there's nothing wrong with any of us who might've loved the Sov6 and don't love all of them now. The situations are different, the dynamics between the other players are different. New season, new game. Having said that, I find myself still pulling for Janelle and still hoping Kaysar can dig deep and play a smart game. ITA with what Myla said about Howie: He also ruins any chance for getting out key players by his Nakomis obsession. He always picks the wrong people to target and then manages to convince Kay and Janie of his stupid thoughts on the game. Are there any of you out there who can claim COMPLETE objectivity with regards to the behavior and integrity of the players you love and the players you hate? Can your opinion NOT be colored by their likability or the fact that you identify with this one or sympathize with that one, or are repelled by another, who you deem unlikable? IMO, those of you who say you can are either liars, or um, damn liars. 
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 12:19 pm
<--- lost her thinking cap. Well actually I think it was stolen because I've been told I think too much....
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Myla
Member
06-21-2006
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 12:44 pm
I was referring to the Sov6 putting on their thinking caps (not posters) but it looks like there is little hope of that happening. Their next move will probably be to invite Danielle to sleep in the HoH room. Sheesh!
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Nancypj
Member
08-17-2001
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 12:47 pm
The only member of S6 (Season 6) that seems to be thinking about the big picture is James. Kay keeps rambling on about he is going to cause "confusion and chaos". I think he's delusional. Kay thinks that by keeping Will and Boogie in the house he will achieve it. James is smart enough to point out that it may not be a "good chaos". Boogie has the capacity to turn 8 people against them. ETA: And Kaysar is showing as he did last season that when he falls in love with "his idea", there is no swaying him.
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Bblovergirl
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 12:52 pm
Great post smrtass. It's a whole new game now with new players who have played the game before, most of them lasting well into or near the end of the game. The Sov6 can not base this year's game on what mistakes they made last year or what worked last year. They are playing against a totally different level of player. And as smrtass put it, the situation and/or circumstanses are different now as well. I personally didn't like Howie all that much last year and like him even less this year. I loved Kaysar last year, but am getting frustrated with his lack of "the big picture". Only time will tell if the Sov6 can hold it together. But, I won't be crying if Dani pulls this whole thing out and as much as I like Janelle, I think Dani will be the one to get to her.
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Myla
Member
06-21-2006
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 12:56 pm
No shit. Dani doesn't need any help to dismember the Sovs- they're doing a great job on themselves.
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Smrtass
Member
09-11-2000
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 1:03 pm
The only member of S6 (Season 6) that seems to be thinking about the big picture is James. Kay keeps rambling on about he is going to cause "confusion and chaos". I think he's delusional. Completely agree, Nancyjp. I do wish they'd listen to James more. He seems to be more perceptive, a better listener, and more able to separate emotions from gameplay. He warned Janie last night about letting her emotions get in the way, but she didn't take him seriously. Thanks, Bblovergirl!
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Webchiq
Member
07-11-2005
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 1:15 pm
Is there a pendulum now? I need to get the live feeds.
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Bugeye
Member
07-18-2005
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 1:19 pm
Clio, You're so much fun. I still remember a comment you made about Janie when she was weakening during the final 3 endurance comp last year, "somebody get that girl some icecream!". You lightened up the mood so well during an intensely depressing gaming moment for me. But onto the topic at hand. I'm in full-on s6 love mode. I wasn't sure I'd be at the beginning, though. I'm elated over Kay's picks and reasoning. I just vacillate between getting Jase or boogie up there with Nik as opposed to Di. But Nik and Jase are the biggest comp threats, I think. You weaken the next biggest alliance by taking out nik or di or Jase while taking out one of the best comp players. I'd really like Jase out, but scumbagging him at this point is dangerous. I spend my time watching feeds not the boards. Maybe the majority (like myself according to the polls, if that's any guage) that don't spend lots of time on the boards don't come in unless there's some big event or something to motivate them to do so. The boards are a minority opinion until something big happens, I think. I think it's hard to guage, though. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm surprised that the s6 have such high poll numbers. I like all the players this year. But I just love the s6. Ali was kind of train wreck, though.
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Scoutmom
Member
01-19-2006
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 1:19 pm
I don't have the feeds (lack of extra time) so I get all my info from you guys. I have a question about Janelle. When she talks on camera she has this little girl voice that drives me up the wall. Does she always talk that way? I think she is a smart player but the voice so turns me off that I just can't love her.
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Earthmother
Member
07-14-2002
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 2:40 pm
I still love the Sov6..I do have to say that I like Marcellas more this time around too, but that could also change. His comments in the Diary Room just crack me up. I still dislike Boogie and Will, that hasn't changed either (I think once you are full of yourself, you're always full of yourself). I like Erika and can live without Nak and Diane. Dani is no different either except she's playing to the camera in the Diary Room which was her Waterloo last time. George, well what can anyone say about George? (goofy)..no different in my opinion yet. I can't get a signal on Jase yet either. I think to make rash judgements this early in the game before they really start to manuver and stratigize is putting the cart before the horse. I'm enjoying watching so many of them work hard to not make the same mistakes they made the first time. I don't see how Dani or Jase can pull this off unless they start being themselves.
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Myla
Member
06-21-2006
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 3:19 pm
When was Nakomis ever atheletic? Now Janie says if she wins HoH next week she's going after Chicken George. Ok, I'm out, that's all of the Sov6 reasoning I can take for one day. Love ya Janie but come on now.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 3:23 pm
Scout I think that Janelle is doing that Less this time in the house. She seems to talk normally one on one with most of the girls...however, she plays stupid and gets others telling her stuff LOL She does the voice mostly when Howie is making a Fuss and she starts playing along with him. Some one said earlier However, Maggie hadn't really shown her full range of manipulative skills at that time so I can see why they gave Eric the boot. This is a great example of why I think the SOV6 played a poor game last time and they are preparing to do the same again. Maggie would not tell anyone her job. Remember how they were thinking she was a police officer or Dolphin trainer? WHO would decide that the loud mouth obvious guy would be more of a threat then the woman is so closemouthed and secretive that no one knows her job?? the psychology background she had gave her a huge advantage in handling the others. Now Kay, Howie seem hellbent on noming two weak players. Di and Nak are NOT the house organizers for petes sake. It just seems like a silly move to me. WHY? because nak po'd Howie? Nope, I am rooting for Janelle as she is a great competitor but the rest of the SOV6 I dont care about.
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 4:11 pm
No, she told them her job, they just didn't believe her. Or James didn't anyway.
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Saggkl
Member
07-17-2002
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 4:13 pm
If they wanted to play Will and Boogie as they say, why didn't they name at least Jase and Nak or Diane?
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Myla
Member
06-21-2006
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 4:14 pm
I'm right with you Sun.
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Cliotheleo
Member
03-13-2002
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 4:14 pm
They want to use Jase a bit longer. Think he's a floater and want to let him float some more if it will help them. And they also want to expose him as a floater. It's weird.
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Nynana
Member
05-31-2005
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 4:17 pm
I never wanted to see more than 3 of the S6 in the house, they could have left Kaysar or Howie out. I don't think either of them have very good gaming skills when it comes to thinking things through and they have both become legends in their own minds. I would love to see James and Janie to the end. For that to happen, Janie needs to back off the guys and really think things through. If that doesn't happen, then there will be no S6 at the end of the game.
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Cousin_jake
Member
07-04-2002
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 4:21 pm
I think if Kaysar goes ahead with the Diane/Nakomis nomination it will be more interesting than some think. At this point, Boogie is happy because he thinks the nom will be CG and someone else but with Diane and Nak up it puts a bit of a wedge between the Jase, Diane, Nakomis alliance and might force Jase to show his hand. Also, Diane is stressing major league already and she isn't even up yet. Diane has also voiced suspicion about a possible deal with Will, Boogie and Kaysar. She didn't react well to being nominated last time and if she doesn't keep it together may cause a bit of disruption among the others. Could be a good week!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 4:43 pm
I think that they should never have put four people from the same season alliance (if you include James) in the house together. It is too divisive, it makes them an instant target and it instantly divides the house. I can't believe I'm saying this but it would have been much more interesting if one of the four from S6 was Ivette. She claims she no longer thinks well of the friendship group. Would she have tried to work with the others from S6 or would she have worked against them? Having said that, I still like the S6, though I find Howie's act a bit tiring after awhile and Kaysar is a little too confident at times. From what I can tell from in the house (whatever that means) they still seem like pretty good people that you wouldn't mind having as friends.
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Myla
Member
06-21-2006
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 5:00 pm
Much better if it was Ivette instead of Howie. I think she would have had a clearer picture of who the Sov6 was up against and what needed to be done right away.
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Lanternfive
Member
06-21-2006
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 5:34 pm
I'm so relieved to have found this thread because I thought I was the only one not feeling the Sov 6 love this time around. I was a little bothered by the fact that 4 of them entered the house to begin with because, as much as I generally liked them last year, I didn't want to see a BB6 reunion. I was was more excited about seeing people from BB2, BB3, and BB5 again. Two weeks in, and I'm ready for some of the Sovs to go home. The whole "we're not aligned, but we still camp out for hours alone together in HOH" thing is getting mighty annoying. Only James has enough sense to make the rounds. Any good feelings I had for Howie last season have quickly disappeared. His vile, disgusting personal attacks against Nakomis have made me totally dislike him. Since Kaysar won HOH, he's been pretty insufferable thinking they rule the house. So I'm hoping he gets evicted sooner rather than later.
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Cousin_jake
Member
07-04-2002
| Friday, July 14, 2006 - 5:37 pm
None of them are saying they'r not alligned (except maybe James - but nobody's buying it!) They had no control over how many of them went into the house. I don't expect them all to get to the end but I hope at least one of them does.
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