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Watching2
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07-07-2001

Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Not that it will change your mind Mandana, but Erika said she regreted the nasty things she said.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I do remember some frustrated talk from erika.

I also remember Jee's arrogant behaviour towards some of the women and <el>. Out of that alliance I had no respect for Jee and how he was playing. He was difficult.

The swearing wasnt very nice though.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I thought Erika did a good job in chat. She was interesting and seemed to put some thought into her answers.

I've read other HG chats in which they respond to direct questions with nonspecific answers that dont really say anything LOL. I appreciated erika actually answering questions freely.

Lainee
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07-19-2005

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 2:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lainee a private message Print Post    
I really wish I could have stayed up last night for Erika's chat. From the first moment I saw Erika till the moment she was booted from the house I rooted for her and kept hoping there would be a way she could get back in!

Personally, for me, Erika's response to Jee's attitude was something I could understand...doesn't make it right, but I understand! I can also understand how being locked away in that house could magnify things out of proportion and make you say or do things you wouldn't otherwise do. :-)

Cruzlvr
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11-13-2003

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 2:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cruzlvr a private message Print Post    
<SpyGirl> Cruzlvr: Now know that us internet fans watch everything so closely on the live feeds, do you think you will be more conscious of what you say and your actions?

<ErikaBB4> As I said before..Im just going in there and be myself

<ErikaBB4> and hope that you all appreciate that

<SpyGirl> that's all you can ask for!

<SpyGirl> our fans will be there to support you :-)

ERIKA: If you read in here again, I just wanted to clarify that question a little: I was not trying to imply personally anything you did!. The reason and motive behind the question, is that many HG seemed to be totally unaware of just how much us "internet geeks" watch and hang on to every word said on the live feeds or some HG thought there were certain rooms (like, cough HOH room, cough) that did not have internet feeds. I was really trying to ask now that you (or other HG) have played the game once, and now KNOW how much we watch and listen, will that make you more aware of us being out there and not what will just see on the television show. When a lot of past HG were talking, they would make a comment about "no worries, this won't make the TV".

I hope this clears up my question a little, as I was not trying to be mean in any way to you.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 3:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
<<Am I the only one who remembers Erika's "fresh off the boat <55> comment toward Jee?
Plus the other *filtered* stuff she said *while angry* or *in the game*?
Are we really that blind to forgive someone just because they post here?
I'm sure I'm in a very very small minority but no way will i back Erika.
Chat or no chat, rosebud or no rosebud, <55>.>>


It's a shame that Erika can't be forgiven even though she stated that she regretted saying some nasty things.

Truth be told, I highly doubt there is anyone in the list of 20 who will receive your vote then. At one point or another, each houseguest said something nasty.

I have spewed some venom in my life, too. Some I regret, some I don't. It is not always easy to deal with anger and/or hurt, and as humans with all of our faults we are bound to say things that would be considered nasty at some point.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 7:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Well that's the main reason I don't like Erika Huk. Sorry but I understand being upset but what came out, uh uh that's beyond venom.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It was wrong of Erika to say what she said (and Erika has said that it was wrong of her to say it and apologized). I don't think there are very many of us that haven't said something when we were emotional that we regretted later! LOL - The difference is that we aren't in front of cameras 24 hours a day.

I would feel very differently if she had repeated it several times, but as far as I know it was a one time thing.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Mocha, I understand your reason and appreciate the way you posted it. Have a great aubergine day!

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 7:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Go Erika! I mean if we had the time, we could go back and find something venomous everyone said, I'm sure. I, myself, agree with what Jimmer said. After all, we're only human, and last I checked none of us were perfect.
Thank you Wargod for the transcript...great job :-)

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 7:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Jee was a control freak and Erika said that in the heat of the moment. In my opinion Jee said more derogatory things, though they might not have been racist. Easy for me to forgive Erika.

Jee's attitude towards women certainly wasn't modern; ie, the 'fresh off the boat' meaning his attitude and views of women were very old fashioned.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Well said Cricket!!!

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Well the chat was sure a fast read...how long did the chat last? Won't say much what I thought of it, as I don't think that will be a popular reply, but let's say I'm less sad about not making it in/chat not working, Treasure hunters was really good lol.

I do feel she said one VERY interesting thing I didn't see discussed yet. We've heard over and over how there are so many from BB6 cause past years turned it down and they had to ask them. Also that was the excuse for some of the weaker/less popular players. Yet someone like Jack who was really smart and interesting WANTED to play and they didn't want him??? I found that quite interesting.

As for the Jee/Erika comment this is how I see it. Wrong is wrong, that was wrong. Same way Ivette was wrong for her Muslim comments. At least Erika has some redeeming characteristics, so like most people there are some parts of her I felt I didn't care for, and some I liked. In some way like Janelle. But all that said...that comment was still wrong and she was old enough at the time to know better. I think prejudices are an insideous thing, and if you have it inside you it shows. All I can say is I hope it's something she saw in herself and chooose to work on. And Cricket, that wasn't the manner I recall her saying it about Jee in. And Scooter and Jimmer, I would bet everything I own if you could look at every word I ever said and wrote you and you would not find ANY comment EVER with that type of prejudicial tone. Sure you would find some stuff where I went off, but also I hope I have learned some from the past. I hope she did too.

Erika had many nice moments, but that to me was a clear look into something in life she needs to deal with. I am not holding it against her, but I didn't care for it and think it's a personal shortcoming I hope she's addressed and grown past.

Ryn
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ryn a private message Print Post    
It was 3 years ago...

I think she has 'dealt' with it.

If you aren't holding it against her - then why keep bringing it up?? Arrgghhhh

Last years cast over the course of the show all said things that were hateful and mean and racist and homophobic.

Including all the candidates for All Stars from BB6.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
It's amazing to me how people gloss over racist statements or say oh it was in the heat of the moment or oh she said she was sorry or oh it was so long ago and others said mean things too. <rolling my eyes> When I'm upset about someone I'll call them a <55> but I don't say something racist. But thats just me. And hey maybe she did realize that it was wrong and she hasn't said anything like that again. Maybe.

Heyltslori
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09-15-2001

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heyltslori a private message Print Post    
I don't think most adults would have to go much farther than a mirror to see someone who has said something they regret.

Erika was open, honest, smart and funny in chat. I, for one, am thrilled that she took the time out of what has to be a super hectic week to chat with us.

Erika rocks!!!!!


Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
well said Ryn! :-)

Erikabb4
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06-21-2006

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Erikabb4 a private message Print Post    
You are right Ryn..

It is a shame that some people do not have the ability to forgive me for something that I said ONCE three years ago, in anger and under extreme stress. To me, forgivemess is the key to life. After all I am just human and I make mistakes. Learning from those mistakes and moving forward is how I chose to live my life. Jee has forgiven me and I have definitely forgiven myself.

Ryn
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ryn a private message Print Post    
Mocha - I can guarentee you that Erika has heard MORE about that one comment than you have ever heard about any mean thing you have said in your life.

She apologized - it was three years ago. To me the only reason someone would be posting in this specific thread is to hurt Erika or try to get a reaction from her.

But that's just my opinion. If you aren't going to vote for Erika - OK - say it and move on. I said I wasn't voting for Nakomis and haven't been back to the thread. Why pee in other peoples pools? I'm not voting for Ivette, but I am not going to go into that thread to point out over and over again the reasons I think she should not be voted in.

Sorry - it is just frustrating - and the exact reason I could never do this show.

Zachsmom
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zachsmom a private message Print Post    
I agree with Mocha, I have said many many things in anger, but it's never about race.

Yoda
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08-11-2005

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yoda a private message Print Post    
Some of us would be offended by being called <55>....we love you Erika!

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Well Ryn you're right it is just your opinion. And like you know what we all have them. And I commented because someone else brought it up. And frankly I can make a comment in any thread I choose to long as it's by the rules. Right? If you don't like it ignore it and me like I will be doing from now on. Course if you used a color it would be easier to skip over....

Heyltslori
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09-15-2001

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heyltslori a private message Print Post    
You're right Erika. It is a shame.

Chat was so fun last night. Thank you.


Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Yes thanks Erika! I enjoyed reading it this morning...You Rock! And Yoda....I was going to post the same thing..but somehow yours came out nicer...glad I hit the back button :-)

Babyboo
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06-16-2003

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyboo a private message Print Post    
How many of us haven't said something in the heat of the moment that we didn't mean?