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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 5:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
So ..... Should Ashley and Joe try to vote Jenn out and keep Boogie?

Jenn hasn't done anything (game wise). So she is a non-entity and possibly irrelevant. If they keep Boogie, then he and Frank will go after the Quack Pack.

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 6:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hobbs a private message Print Post    
That a tough question, Jimmer. These people are players and I think are really enjoying the competition. So in that regard Mike may have an argument of who deserves to stay in the house, a player or a floater. But then as a player you always want to get rid of the strong competition. I'm a fan of Mikes so I hope he can pull it off.

Brendylou
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07-15-2012

Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brendylou a private message Print Post    
Mike isn't a player. He relies on everyone else to do his dirty work, and when it doesn't go the way he wants it to, he acts like a spoiled brat.

So, my answer to Jimmer is Heck NO!

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 7:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Boogie's last resort will be to tell the others he was given special powers by BB. It's almost funny to see what's happening in the house. Even funnier would be for Joe to believe it and really have a panic attack that sends his blood pressure to the roof!

I still won't believe they're all set on getting Boogie out if they're so easily duped.

I think Britney is sitting on her laurels a bit too long, she should suspect a double eviction and she should still expect her leaving with Boogie but nothing like this is entering her mind. I don't see her playing forward, thinking what's coming next, all she is doing is be happy about her safety this week but it could be the same week when her safety didn't really count much if she does leave on Thursday with the double eviction.

Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
Spunky, I don't know if she is safe for both evictions in case of a double eviction, but BB did say she's safe 'for the week'. They didn't specify that she was safe for 'the next vote' or anything, which leads me to believe that she may be safe for the double.

I could be wrong though, it depends on what production wants to do, which is why it was probably worded that way!

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
I take the week meaning thru the first eviction.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I also believe Brit is safe only through this HOH week.

Once she plays for HOH, she is no longer safe unless she wins.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 9:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Yup!

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
Boogie is hosed- if they figure out it's going to be a double eviction they'll want to get rid of him immediately because the double eviction comps are usually a Q&A for HOH followed by a quick physical game for POV (usually trying to find something in a pile). The 2nd eviction is going to be interesting though- do they try and get rid of Frank if they get the chance?

Wahmmy
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07-24-2005

Tuesday, August 21, 2012 - 11:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wahmmy a private message Print Post    
I would think so, I mean if they get Boogie out let Frank join him and they can get up in the morning and chat and say what did we do wrong?

Oregonguy
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02-12-2006

Friday, August 24, 2012 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oregonguy a private message Print Post    
frank, frank, frank! just got done reading up on todays happenings and see that ian got a special veto power to take someone off the block. so with this said why did frank not nominate ian?????

if shane or britney win veto they can take dan or dani off and ian can take the other and the quack pack would stay intact this week as jenn or joe would go.

c'mon frank think!

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Friday, August 24, 2012 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Yes, it seems quite possible. If Ian keeps making his stunt moves he could be successful as with Boogies' eviction. However, the kid may be feeling the pressure and stick with Frank and the whole plan would not work at all.

Willwillbee
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09-20-2001

Monday, August 27, 2012 - 3:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Willwillbee a private message Print Post    
I've just watched the TV show & am not up on the latest - so probably much has changed since but something I learned about body language. Whenever someone puts their left hand over their mouth when speaking means they don't believe what they are saying (try it on yourself the next time your left hand covers your mouth while speaking) & Britney had her left hand over her mouth the entire time she was committing her loyalty to Frank.

Consciously, she *may* even believe it, but not subconsciously.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 9:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Well, Well, Well, Ian won HOH, just as I wished.

Now, I can really see if he's got it or not! If he nominates Dan and Frank, well, okay, but he could do better, get rid of Dan and keep Frank!

Frank knows he's a target but he should have learned from Dan how to use a trump card. Dan used it by rutting out Ian, now Frank should use it by telling Ian it was Dan rutting him out to him and Brit is gone because Dan wanted so. Dan is not your Quack Pack ally!! This what Frank will tell Ian, but then again if he's nominated he wins POV and Frank is safe. Dan should be Ian's target!!

Ark
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07-09-2001

Sunday, September 02, 2012 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ark a private message Print Post    
9/1/2012 Alliance Chart

http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=BBMedia&Number=18368239&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=31&rc=&fpart=

Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Sunday, September 02, 2012 - 6:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
Assuming Frank is gone on Thursday:

Dan-Shane-Dani-Joe-Jenn are playing for HoH.

Does Dan throw it again? His only serious threat is if Joe wins it? I assume he plays until he knows Joe is out.

Nomination combos~
Joe nominates Ian and Dan.
Jenn nominates Ian and Joe.
Dani nominates Joe and Jenn.
Shane nominates Jenn and.......Joe?

Dan nominates??? He does not want to stab Jenn, he wants someone else to get her out. Does he cut his loses with Shane and assume Shane will vote for Dani over him at the Finals so nom him?

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Sunday, September 02, 2012 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Houseguest strategies:

Dani... do whatever Dan says despite all the alarms
Shane... do whatever the HOH, Brittney, or the last person he talked to says to do
Dan... fake funerals, fake fights, fake alliances, manipulate minds
Jenn... none
Joe... none
Ian... name a fake alliance and stick with it no matter what

Clueless bunch really.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Sunday, September 02, 2012 - 8:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I agree Chippy... but Frank disappointed me a bit. I wanted him to win POV and will have to see the show to understand if he threw it to Dan. The guy can only save himself with winning comps since the others realize, or should realize, that the first chance they have to get rid of a strong opponent versus a weak on the block they will take it and Frank can't see this. He thinks that if he's with Joe he'll stay. Why does he think so? Because he made a deal with Dan? Oh please!!!
So Frank shot himself in the foot by doing business with Dan, he should have just ignored the story Dan sold him about Ian, it may have been true or false, he bought it right away and made a F2 deal with Dan. This alone disappoints me a lot. He couldn't stand the guy and then he makes a F2 deal with him, not even F3 or F4, F2!!! He thinks Ian is all by himself although he knows about the quack pack and he's not guessing why Ian is not really that mad at Dan and still believes Danielle is still mad at Dan.
What's going on with Frank? Too sweet a guy? I don't doubt he's more honest than Dan but he doesn't have Dan's killer instinct... I dislike Dan's manipulations but Frank disappoints me because he's not cuuning enough for this game. I just hope the others are really that dupe to evict Joe instead of him, that's his only chance to stay.

Napa1526
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07-14-2007

Sunday, September 02, 2012 - 10:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Napa1526 a private message Print Post    
Frank did suspect Ian of being with the other group. His downfall was believing Boogie when he said it was Dan running the show. That is why he believed Dan when he ratted out Ian....he had already suspected it. At that point he had no one but Jenn. When Dan was ready to swear on the bible and did swear on his wife....Frank believed him. Should he have....no...but he honestly believed Dan and he needed an alliance. Everyone voted for Brit and said they wanted Ian out next which is why he thought Ian was alone now. The one thing they all have right is if Frank was in F2 he would win hands down.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Monday, September 03, 2012 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
I think in that moment it was a real F4 deal for Dan. He did NOT expect the QP to reunite. As he put it, he likes them better (Shane & Ian over Frank & Jenn) so he switched back.

Since Dan has the Veto he has an easy move this week. He uses the Veto to take Jenn off and says that she removed him so he's returning the favor. Frank can't be mad at him for not using it on him because their "alliance" includes Jenn and it makes sense for him to use it on here since she used it on him. Ian puts up Joe and Frank FINALLY goes bye bye. Dan could even vote for Joe to "hide" his betrayal of Frank, and Ian would cast the tie breaker to oust Frank since Shane and Danielle will vote out Frank and Jenn and Dan vote for Joe to go. Dan could even sell it to Ian that he wants Ian to have the honor of booting Frank out personally. Win win win for Dan if that is what he does.

Hwest
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07-01-2011

Monday, September 03, 2012 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hwest a private message Print Post    
Gee I will have to remember that my pledge of loyalty only counts if it is convenient and suits my needs. Even if Dan wins he is a loser, loser, loser. Frank has grown on me in the game and on his way out this week (if he doesn't give Dan up after the Veto meeting) I hope he leaves some scorched earth behind. Rooting for oblivious Shane at the moment.

Spunky
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10-07-2001

Monday, September 03, 2012 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Okay then, let's hope Frank manages to make his last pitch by saying... "I'm not playing for HOH", I'm not a threat to you. And let's hope they're all so dupe to keep him.

I'm sorry for Joe though, he's the only one who can see through Dan's mist.

Ian is so naive that the poor kid will leave after Frank or Joe. Dan will try to throw HOH to Jenn so she can get rid of Ian. That's what Dan is thinking and he keeps his hands clean, just like leaving the tie-breaker to Ian to evict Frank, Dan doesn't want any blood on his hand.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Monday, September 03, 2012 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I agree HWest. Dan's phony pledge via bible, ring, wife to Frank was just a bunch of baloney. He must possess real charisma in person because everyone just wants to take him to the end. But will he get the jury votes? I suppose he will. But he's not going to be able to claim the best BB player of all time crown. Not IMO.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Monday, September 03, 2012 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Me either, Brenda. But, I do think he could play "Dexter" without blinking an eye. You know, the nice guy serial killer.

Plus, I can't give Dan so much credit because:
1. We have no idea of the DR input here.
2. His big plan had no legs without Frank buying it (hence the promise on blahblahblah), selling it to Jenn (D'oh), and Jenn getting Dani's permission to let it happen.
3. Joe, who actually takes heed to the warnings, has become nothing more than a story teller. He makes shit up constantly so his word means nothing.
4. Shane doesn't have his own word.
5. Jenn can be talked into jumping off a bridge before any minute hand makes one full rotation.
6. Dani's neediness and attention seeking knows no bounds and only comes in second to her ruthlessness.

I dunno how Ian makes it past the fast forward because the ones considered usless appendages (except for a jury vote) are Jenn, Joe, and Shane so why waste a fast forward on them?

I hate this whole season. lol

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Monday, September 03, 2012 - 10:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
How is Dan going to get Ian out, his biggest competition (only competition?) without getting blood on his hands? This remains to be seen. Can BB come up with a game that Joe could actually win and become the HOH? I'd love to see Dan follow Frank out the door during the FF.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Monday, September 03, 2012 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Throw HOH to Jenn. She and Ian don't like each other. She noms Ian and doesn't matter who else and they vote out Ian. Simple really. Plus Jenn gets to preen about another BIG move, trusts them more, and won't see the headlights of the bus plowin' down on her. lol

Not a chance Dan follows Frank IMO... who would nom him? Maybe Ted.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Monday, September 03, 2012 - 4:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
I think Dan was genuine in his pledge to Frank at that time, he even confirmed in DR, but then the Quack Pack was brought back, and he went back to his original alliance.
Hard to come down too hard on Dan about switching alliances when Britney did it more than once, and 4/5 of QP was also in Silent Six.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Monday, September 03, 2012 - 5:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
His precious quackpack readily accepted him going home last week. They did nothing to try and change it which made his "you're dead to me" to Danielle work as good as it did. Had Frank not stepped in to get Jenn to consider using the veto, he'd be a goner. Yes, Dani did follow the coach's orders and fall in line but that's because she knew 110% she was safe against Brit. Dan told her so and Jenn is in love with her and Shane is afraid of her. Brit was lucky to get one vote.

And... the QP was NOT Dan's original alliance... the silent six was. Ian was added as an afterthought. Joe was added as a headhunter but that's not real either.

So, yeah, I can blame him and will. lol

Mars
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07-26-2012

Monday, September 03, 2012 - 6:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mars a private message Print Post    
The original alliance was four members.. the two coach/hg couples: D/D and B/S. (I don't think they ever gave that alliance a name). They let Ian think he was creating a new alliance of five but privately seemed to consider it a joke, they humored Ian by letting him name the five member alliance and Ian came up with the name Quack Pack. They never told Ian anything about how they already had an alliance of four. They were only agreeing to the Quack Pack so Ian would be a spy and report inside info about Mike and Frank.

Hwest
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07-01-2011

Tuesday, September 04, 2012 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hwest a private message Print Post    
Dan is only genuine about winning. His word is not to be trusted. If someone swore to me in the game on the bible, their wife, grandma and grandpa i would not trust them. Dan als swears to the audience the sincerity of his moves and then renegs. Only Joe knows that Dan is a flim flam man. Dam I wish Joe could win the HOH in FF but that does not seem likely.

Bowl4sport
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07-21-2008

Tuesday, September 04, 2012 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bowl4sport a private message Print Post    
Maybe if they had a competition that involved trying to break a glass with their voice...?