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When is it going to stop?

Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother ARCHIVES: Big Brother 14 - Part 3: When is it going to stop? users admin

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Lorry
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08-05-2007

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lorry a private message Print Post    
BB is a game show because prize money in won. So with that being said, "Why isn't the FCC investigated AG with her blatant influences in this game"?
She has been affecting the outcome of these games for years. From Evel Dick and his daughter, which was the most obvious, to Adam (He was from my area and now in Federal Prison for drugs). He was the personal friend of the casting woman.
Now, we have this season. Frank is her new project. She has saved him 4 times. She doesn't even care how obvious it looks anymore.
We had the reset, DR influences and now, the best of them all. He gets to palm the veto ticket to pick his choice and then he cheats and get caught and she still lets him keep the veto.
This is so wrong. Why isn't she called out on these things? What kind of influence does she have with CBS?
Am I the only one that is noticing this or do some of you see what's going on?

Lazylu
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04-09-2010

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 9:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lazylu a private message Print Post    
I understand it is not considered a game show, but an entertainment show.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It's not a game show and there is no guarantee to anyone that the outcome will be fair (whatever that even means). So there is no legal recourse.

As far as whether or not AG fixes the game to benefit a particular player or simply to try to make it interesting (not to say she is successful) I have no idea.

Lorry
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08-05-2007

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lorry a private message Print Post    
I heard that also, Lazylu, but the explanation for a game show is a contest with money and prizes going to the winner. Is this not, BB? I just don't get it.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
The difference is that game shows state that they are fair. Big Brother explicitly states as part of their agreement that anything can happen. So Big Brother isn't breaking any rules and there is no false pretense.

That's how they can come up with the Coup de Jeff etc.

Lazylu
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04-09-2010

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lazylu a private message Print Post    
I don't know, but I do think they need a whole new team to produce this show.

Holly
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07-21-2001

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
I agree Lazylu, AG's time has come and gone.

Konamouse
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07-15-2001

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 10:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
I've come to the conclusion we have to remember the original premise of having a "Big Brother" always watching and DIRECTING the outcome (based on the book "1984" by George Orwell).

So in that regard, the producers can do anything they want. In the end, they pay the HG for their time. They let the HG pick who gets which amount of pay (i.e. voted out early and you get just stipend for the weeks in the house, make the jury and you get paid stipend thru the rest of the season, get to final two and you get the biggest pay out). But in the end, it's NOT a game show, it's a reality show for our entertainment.


Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
BB may not classify as a game show, but the way AG runs it is disgusting. The sliminess of it seeps right through the screen. It stinks of bottom-feeder Hollywood desperation. I haven't watched feeds or the show since Evel Dick's season. (But follow the comments along here with your fine folks, because you're so entertaining :-)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Because we talk endlessly about a show that according to you "stinks of bottom-feeder Hollywood desperation"? Um .... Okay then.

Kappy
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06-28-2002

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
For me, Lorry, it's the audience that should be fed up with AG's manipulation, not the FCC, but that isn't happening. Those of us who are fed up have quit watching. Obviously I still post an opinion here and there but that's because I can't quit these boards. They are the best part of BB. Thank you everyone for that!

As for AG manipulating for Frank, I think that was for Boogie's benefit, not Franks.

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
Eh. Production interference has been in play for many seasons but I'd have to agree that the last few of them reak of it. It's pretty bad when production is having to DR every hg with instructions on what they'd better not talk about. Not to mention FISH being used more preemptively than ever AND diary room leaks that make it obvious. Imagine what we don't know if what we do know is this bad.

Interestingly enough, when Jeff was the pet as opposed to Froogie, the interference seemed welcomed. Many begged for a coup-de-Janelle. Given the opportunity, America has messed with many a lesser favored's game.

It's BB. Expect the unexpected never to be expected unexpectedly again. lol

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
After all this time, I have accepted that this game will likely be fixed and manipulated. And that's fine.

My problem is how transparent and unimaginative the manipulation has become. I think this might be why they cast such blah guests. It is less work to lead sheep around.

They may throw a wolf or two in just to keep us interested. But lately they aren't even bothering with that. They just bring back retreads who have gotten strong audience response, negative or positive.

Basically to me it seems like BB is run on autopilot. There is no creativity. There aren't even retreads of creativity.

It seems as if no cares. They have a formula that continues to bring in the audience and they are not going to stray from that. They are just going to beat it down into the ground until the audience finally does decide "who cares".

Then they will cancel the show as having run its course versus them running it down.


Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 1:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
Big Brother is to "game show" as the WWE is to the sport of wrestling.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 1:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - Nice analogy Sanfran.

If BB is - let's call it "produced" - and we see it on the feeds it makes me wonder how heavily produced other favorite shows like Survivor are where we don't have any live feeds?

Chippy
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08-16-2007

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chippy a private message Print Post    
That's true enough, Jimmer. That said, I watch Survivor every season and Jeff P does a version of his own manipulation during every tribal. At least it's not stealth. lol

Lorry
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08-05-2007

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lorry a private message Print Post    
Thank you all for your opinions. You, guys, are great. If they are going to call it "entertainment" and AG can change up anytime she wants, does that also gives her the right to give 1/2 mil to HER favorite HG. Who's supplying the money for this?

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Sunday, August 19, 2012 - 11:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"Who's supplying the money for this?"

WE are.

As long as it's popular, the advertisers will keep buying airtime for BB, and advertisers only air commercials because they work!

Earthmother
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07-13-2002

Monday, August 20, 2012 - 6:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
The whole basis of Big Brother is manipulation by the leaders (production). They are supposed to put questions and doubt in their minds. As for specifically trying to promote one person to win over another who can say. If so many hgs didn't throw comps we might have a better idea of what production is actually doing.

Tvwatcher
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04-17-2004

Monday, August 20, 2012 - 8:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvwatcher a private message Print Post    
I remember them re-doing a comp, with AG gathering them all in the living room to tell them that this had to be done in order to "maintain the integrity of the game" (insert eyeroll) - and she stated in an interview that the live feeders "kept her honest"

was this before Arnold Shapiro left or after?

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, August 20, 2012 - 8:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Boogie talking to superpass and a few friend saying that if Joe or Dan arent sitting next to him he'll be home Thursday....no 2 ways about. Watch me get Dan's ass in the seat next to me. just watch me.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, August 20, 2012 - 8:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Boogie is now lowering them awnings....starting his day.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Monday, August 20, 2012 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
psst Lilfair, this isn't the thread

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, August 20, 2012 - 8:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
OY!!! sigh I am so sorry!

Kitkat
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08-23-2008

Monday, August 20, 2012 - 8:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitkat a private message Print Post    
The only way to express your dislike of the way this show is run, is to contact the sponsors with what you are upset with. This really does work. Several years ago, NASCAR driver Kyle Busch smashed a painted Gibson Guitar trophy on the ground. I and I'm sure many others sent emails to Mars Candy, M&Ms, his sponsor to tell them how selfish this act was. I received an email from Mars and later it was released that Mars had told him he better settle down. And, his attitude has improved.

So - write the sponsors and complain!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 20, 2012 - 9:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
The show is all about manipulation and the involvement of Big Brother in that manipulation is totally subjective. Some fans even actively call for Big Brother to intervene and help a favorite houseguest who is in danger of being evicted. I recall seeing that with Janelle earlier this season.

So when Big Brother interferes a lot of people feel it is okay as long as the houseguest who gets the benefit of that interference is popular.

Personally, I've come to accept that it is just a game and BB interfering is part of the game. Sometimes I'm happy about what happens and sometimes I'm unhappy. Que sera sera. :-)

Lazylu
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04-09-2010

Monday, August 20, 2012 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lazylu a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, that's about the truth. Sometimes we are happy and sometimes we aren't.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, August 20, 2012 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
"When is it going to stop...?"

Easy answer....when BB is cancelled.