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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-21-2003
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 8:37 am
Figured I would start a thread since Ashley's back seems to be flaring up again, or did it really never stop bothering her? I read on the 'live feed discussion' that Ashley didn't compete for the "Have Not" competition yesterday because of her back and Frank played for her. I don't think that is fair. How is she going to compete in future competitions? Is BB going to rig all of the following comps to only thinking ones, no physical? I think it's been long enough (1 month) to see if her back would get better, which it hasn't, so therefore she should leave and all the previously ousted HG's get to do a comp to see who gets to return in replacement of her. What are your thoughts?
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 8:39 am
I think Ashley should leave because it is not fair to the others but I think they should skip an eviction and not have someone return at this point.
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 8:58 am
All I know is that I feel for her. I get back pain and one day you feel fine then the next you are afraid to move the wrong way. I felt fine the other day, then I took my kids to the movies - the whole 2 hours there I couldn't get comfortable and was in pain - same thing when I drive longer than 20 min. Sometimes walking around helps and when it is bad I lay on my stomach like Ashley does. I think it stinks for her and for others in the game.
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Zgoodgirl
Member
08-22-2003
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 9:37 am
At first I felt bad for her. I suffer from a herniated disc that flares up every once in awhile, which when it does I can hardly move and my left leg does also go a little numb. *Knocks on wood* I haven't had it full go out on me in about a year, I have had little 'twinges' just to remind me that it's there and any stupid move could pinch a nerve. So I can totally understand if she is actually having back problems. But...from my experience, I don't see how she is moving fine one day, and then the next damn near crippled. It makes my back twitch looking at her laying on her stomach which would cause me agony if my back was out. Just looking at her bend her knees when she is on her stomach makes me believe that this is not as bad as she is making it out to be. Going up the stairs would take me forever, and the numb leg would not be used. Going to the bathroom, brushing my hair, tying my shoes, heck turning my head if someone called my name would take just a hesitation of how I would do it without causing more pain in my back. And she does not hesitate or think about her movements at all. And if when I got great shots and body 'and mind' numbing drugs, it would not be some miracle that I could start just running around immediately. I was still kinda hurting, just not as bad. I would hate to say she is faking it, but it is hard to buy it when you have had issues with your back. But anyway, if she is not faking it. She needs to get out of the game and go to a specialist. One month is too long for your back to be out without getting some kind of xrays or MRI.
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Beffylou
Member
04-21-2005
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 9:54 am
I had the same back spasms that Ashley is claiming to have. There is no way in heck I would have ever been able to lay on my stomach, climb those stairs or bend my knees. I was given pretty strong shots when it happened and when the pain started, it was so bad I begged to be taken directly to the ER. Hate to say she is faking it, but I don't believe it is near what she tries to imply it is.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 10:11 am
If she were to leave, they cannot have evicted hgs come back in because they have info about the game and other hgs that the current hgs don't have.
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Lake_gal
Member
06-09-2004
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 11:04 am
I believe she does have back problems. But she is playing it to be much worse than it is. She realized it worked the first week to get out of sleeping in the Have Not room. Now she gets sympathy and out of the punishments. I believe they should use the rules that Survivor uses. If you miss a competition you have to leave the game. I do not think anyone should be brought back if she leaves. They just need one less eviction then.
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Sunni
Member
07-05-2007
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 11:23 am
I totally agree with Lake_Gal. First time, I believed her. Now...not so much.
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 11:24 am
well she is curled up on the couch again -- sort of sitting up this time
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Nana
Member
07-24-2004
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 11:29 am
Is it possible that Ashley was hurt in a former profession, (S/M) causing her to walk off the job? Now her physical problems documented on Big Brother, may, may not relate to her having legal problems and all.. Just speculating that's all
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Scubalass
Member
07-01-2004
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 12:14 pm
I so agree with those with a bad back, having had one myself there is no way I could have laid on my stomach with me knees bent. She has also said she has had two cortisone injections which I find strange as my husband gets them for a knee problem and he can only have them every three months! I really think she is faking it now!
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 3:42 pm
Thank you for starting this thread. As someone with hip problems which I was rejected for in regards to cortisone treatment, I have been curious: 1. When did these back problems first surface? 2. What kind of treatment has BB been giving her? Did the treatment include a cortisone shot from BB? or from what is said above, is she only saying that she had cortisone shots prior to coming on? 3. And my third question was indeed: when does she get ejected from the game for not being able to compete? If it's as bad as she says, then for her own health (more important than any game!) and for the sake of the other contestants, it seems she should go.
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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 5:57 pm
Everyone is different. I never really had back issues until last year. We had one last big snowfall and I cleared a path to my deck to get to my snow blower. I then stuck the shovel in the snow to start on the patio and had the most horrendous pain I've ever had. Had I not been standing next to my house so I could grab it, and not have had the shovel in my hand, I probably would have hit the ground because I momentarily lost strength in my legs. I came inside and laid down for about 15 minutes until the burning pain went away...then went outside and shoveled my entire driveway (joys of being single!) I then took a shower and laid prone the rest of the day. I could barely move the next day and went to the doctor and ended up with an MRI, ultrasound, you name it. Found out that a disc is slipped and another is slightly bulging. So, although I momentarily couldn't stand one minute, 20 minutes later I went outside and spent an hour shoveling snow. I now have days where it hurts and is uncomfortable, but nothing like those first 2 days. In fact, it's bothering me now, but not to the point where I couldn't do anything, but there are times that it does (especially later in the day.) So, Ashley could have back problems that are severe one day and not the next. Plus, yeah, maybe she exaggerates, of had a low tolerance of pain (mine is pretty high from working with family doing construction when I was a child.) It's hard to "judge" someone without walking a mile in their shoes. Everyone feels and reacts to pain differently and the pain you or I have had may not be what she feels.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 6:02 pm
That is so true. Someone could exploit something like this but in the end it's impossible to know what someone else is feeling and these things can come and go. Overall, I like Ashley.
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Chewpito
Member
01-03-2004
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 6:58 pm
Dardyte...I agree 100% I have the same issues....and some days are wonderful...and they can be followed by a week of excruciating pain...who knows.....everyone is different...I like Danielle.....i don't know why...I just do'
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Rieann
Member
08-26-2006
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 7:13 pm
Yes, I agree with all on how painful days can vary. And I like this Darclyte... Everyone feels and reacts to pain differently and the pain you or I have had may not be what she feels.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-21-2003
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 7:15 pm
Sorry...been out all day an only now got a chance to read everyone's comments. Please don't get me wrong, I like Ashley and actually find her to be entertaining with the things she says sometimes. I'm sure she would have had to have had a physical before entering the house, so she must have injured herself in the house? Did anyone catch what they were saying before going to fish whenever talking about Ashley and her aches and pains? In my opinion BB shouldn't have allowed Frank to play the Have Not comp for her. If she can't do the comps, she should be evicted. Happymom and other who pointed out why old hg's can't return, thanks I totally forgot they would be 'tainted' from the outside now. lol I guess it was wishful thinking. lol
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Rieann
Member
08-26-2006
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 7:25 pm
Miz, your main point was if she can't compete, should she be there. Great question. Then the discussion wafted into pain and some questioning the timing of her flare-ups, etc... Which is a valid discussion too. I think everything's good.

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Oregonguy
Member
02-12-2006
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 8:40 pm
imo if she cant compete then she is automatically out of the comp, like yesterday she should have been a have not, not exempt. also if they want to give her the boot because of it, im good with it. so far she has barely done anything for me on the show this year.
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Jag2000
Member
07-01-2009
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 8:55 pm
I think Frank played for her yesterday in the HaveNot Comp..if her team lost she would be a HN not Frank.
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Oregonguy
Member
02-12-2006
| Saturday, August 11, 2012 - 9:07 pm
so if frank played for her thats a big difference since imo frank is a better competitor physically and mentally. i'd be upset if i lossed and was on slop all week and frank made the difference.
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Hwest
Member
07-01-2011
| Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 2:19 pm
I think if you can't compete you gotta go. But, once again Frank gets an extra person out on his HOh. Just not fair.
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Snoopsmom
Member
02-19-2003
| Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 3:29 pm
It will be interesting to see how this plays out as the weeks go by. Soon the other houseguests are going to realize that if they carry Ashley to the final two whoever is against her has a great chance of winning the grand prize. Boogie has already expressed that he'd like to carry Ashley to the final 3. What happens then? If she isn't well enough to compete in the final 3 first part HOH, which is usually endurance, will they get rid of her then, call back another hg to compete for her, or just push her through?
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-21-2003
| Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 9:07 pm
I think Ashley has been ripped on pain meds since the start of BB, on and off.
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Dlkuhn4
Member
07-14-2002
| Monday, August 13, 2012 - 2:23 am
What are they giving her? She said tonight on showtime that she feels funny?
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2012 - 5:54 am
This will be interesting to see how it plays out eventually.... Darclye, if I could I would "like" your post. I lay on my stomack when my back hurts b/c it is the only way I feel comfortable. I feel the weight shifts down and off my back. If I am sitting, it hurts. Also one day I will have really bad pain then the next day it will be less, not completely gone but better enough that I get brave and try to do a lot of things. So hard to say.
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Veganking
Member
07-24-2009
| Monday, August 13, 2012 - 8:58 am
To get on the show, I believe you have to pass a physical examination. It seems to me she started exibiting problems after the first HOH competition. Whether it was a new injury or an exacerbation of a previous injury or condition, I don't know.
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Kminfinity
Member
06-29-2005
| Monday, August 13, 2012 - 11:52 am
The rumor I read somewhere (can't remember where) was that she had a bad snowboarding injury a few years ago that she thought was no longer an issue, but that first competition with the spinning beds really messed her up.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-21-2003
| Friday, August 17, 2012 - 5:45 am
Wow, last nights HOH comp didn't look like it would be good for Ashley and her back problem. Anyone who have the live feeds know how she is doing after? Do we have more days ahead of her loaded on pain and muscle relaxers?
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, August 17, 2012 - 6:00 am
She seems to be feeling better in general. Who knows what she'll be like today though. 
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Friday, August 17, 2012 - 8:23 am
So glad Ash did not fall during the HOH competition as that was a disaster waiting to happen.
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Holly
Member
07-21-2001
| Friday, August 17, 2012 - 8:57 am
After watching Ashley last night in the HOH, I'm beginning to see why she could go far in this season. She can use the back excuse to be a total non-threat in comps, thereby staying low on the radar; and now she's building a showmance with Frank. If he stays and Boogie goes this week, she may very well end up in the final two with Frank.
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Flossiebebe
Member
09-01-2005
| Friday, August 17, 2012 - 9:38 am
i can't decide if she's really smart and playing the game or just a space-cadet!
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Friday, August 17, 2012 - 3:49 pm
Didn't seem to do anything to Ashley, but Jenn took a bad fall and said she thinks she fell on her mic pack and is not doing so well. She iced her back last night and has been doing advil and resting. This morning she said it was better but still hurt so was going to keep doing Advil/ice/rest. She did manage to get up and go to the HOH opening, and Shane told her she didn't need to do that, he understood she was hurt and it was ok,, but she insisted.
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