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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Big Brother ARCHIVES: Big Brother 14 - Part 2: Should the HG be judged outside the game based on their behavior inside the game? users admin

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Sp818aa
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07-23-2012

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 6:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sp818aa a private message Print Post    
I know I will be in the minority here,but I absolutely think they should.I know the HG and posters will say its just the game but I dont agree. If you are a liar or a cheat inside the house you are more than likely one outside the house.The vile things that come out of some of their mouths are uncalled for and not needed. To be honest with you I would have a problem with Dan coaching my kid or Brittney teaching my Kid. This is just my Opinion and I would love to hear what others think.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 7:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
I think that parts of your personality are amplified being in the house, not only due to the stress of being locked up, but in what boundaries you have set for yourself. Yes, it is just a game, but if you are willing to set aside the personal boundaries that you have in life to win money, then that does give an indication of what things are most important to you.

Having said that, I don't believe that someone's career should be at risk because they play the game. I don't believe that "fans" should innundate people's employers, demanding blood. I think people get way carried away with the drama that comes naturally to an environment like this.

Sp818aa
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07-23-2012

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 7:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sp818aa a private message Print Post    
I dont think anyones career should be at risk ,but i also believe you should remember what you have waiting outside the house when you are thru with the game.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I think being in the house is a microcosm (is that spelled right?) of who you are outside of the house. I don't think that means you are at risk (unless you show yourself to be a totally horrible, mysogenist person in the house) in the outside world, but I think that people in your lives will look at those character traits outside of the house more carefully.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I would never be able to trust or hire blatant liars like Britney. I wouldn't associate with those who enjoy causing pain, especially when they have based their judgements (excuses) based on untruths.. whether they just failed to question truth of a statement or, worse, created the false statement and then spread the lies.

And some people show their toxic nature and yes that spreads outside the house as well.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I don't equate lying in the house as part of the game when lying and hurting others just for the sake of hurting someone you think as "evil".

Maggie's year was a great example of that. Once they targeted someone for eviction, that person was ostrasized and villanized at every turn. The people running the house were downright nasty to people, all in the name of playing the game.

I fully believe that being able to lie and backstab, yet have the social abilities to have those you lie to/and backstab admire your abilities is the best way to play the game. It can be done without tearing someone down.

Just my thought....

Redpen
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07-24-2003

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Redpen a private message Print Post    
The behavior has to be pretty extreme for me to dislike someone outside of the house based on BB. I would entrust a grandchild to Dan or Brit. I'm sure in real life they're fine with kids. In this cast, only Boogie do I genuinely dislike. My friends and I talk about the poor woman who had his child, and how he probably only has supervised visits.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 10:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Should an actor who magnificently portrays a psychopath be trusted in real life? I mean anyone that good at playing a psychopath has to have those qualities. Right? Wrong.

Yes I know actors are acting and while BB contestants aren't acting they are playing a game where they are observed 24 hours a day for most of a summer under very stressful and unusual conditions that clearly don't bring out the best in people. So I am willing to cut them some slack unless they go to extremes. For example, I'd be fine with Dan teaching or coaching one of my kids.

I prefer players who realize it is a game and try not to make it too personal.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 10:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Dan's behavior doesn't affect my opinion of him as a coach; however, I would not believe anything that Britney says, especially when she's talking about other people.

Sp818aa
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07-23-2012

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sp818aa a private message Print Post    
Does Dan tell members of his team,win at all costs? After all it is only a game. Not sure i would want a guy like this coaching a team with kids.JMO

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 12:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Dan probably doesn't tell his team that, Sp8181, especially if he's a successful high school coach. Most coaches focus on the skills, teamwork, etc. required to be successful, and those coaches who care about their kids tend to get kids who will do everything they can for their coach and their sport.

However, I would bet money there are PARENTS who do tell the kids that!

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I hope that Dan does tell his team (back home at the school where he coaches) win at all costs within the rules of the game. That is what he is supposed to do. That is what good coaches do.

Football, and anything else really, is not a good comparison to BB though.

Oregonguy
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02-12-2006

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oregonguy a private message Print Post    
for the most part no, i expect in reality tv lying, backstabbing, stressed behavior, but everyone watching has their own personal line of expectations from contestants and if their crossed then we judge accordingly.
2 things that i cant personally stand are bullingly behavior (like russell bb11 and dick). i like a good verbal fight as much as anyone just as long as it happens organically and also when players come on with a significant other back home and they cheat on them on national tv, disgusting

Sp818aa
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07-23-2012

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 1:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sp818aa a private message Print Post    
Well if I were an employer I would not want my employee going on a "game" show where they would have to do those things! Let them go buy a vowel on wheel of fortune!

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
As someone who has played competitive sports throughout my school career, we were taught go all out, try our best, win within the rules.

We were not allowed to portray bad sportsmanship, to name call and to lie to our teammates.

Of course, we didn't change teammates every 15 minutes like this group either.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
and BB isn't technically a team sport either... the idea is to be the last person standing...

If you take a sports team and the goal is to end up the only person left...you might see some of what is on BB...or worse!!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
One of the problems with comparing BB to a sport is there are very clearly defined rules regarding the play of most sports. So someone who lies in BB is often accused of being a bad sport but they are totally playing within the rules and in that sense they are being perfectly good sports.

Oregonguy
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02-12-2006

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 3:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oregonguy a private message Print Post    
put a referee in the house and i'll consider it a team sport! until then

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 3:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
I find that Britney is very untrustworthy because she can't look you straight in the eye.



Kminfinity
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06-29-2005

Monday, August 06, 2012 - 4:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kminfinity a private message Print Post    
It's hard to distinguish, but imo you shouldn't be judged on gameplay that was game-focused but SHOULD be judged negatively for poor behavior that isn't clearly game related.

Here's a clear-cut example: Okay to lie about alliances; break promises about who will go on the block;

Not okay: make up lies about someone's real life; 'rub it in' by adding insult to injury, kicking someone when they're down...

Gray area: (Where Brit lives) badmouth someone in general to tarnish their image;

Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Tuesday, August 07, 2012 - 7:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cablejockey a private message Print Post    
An actor isnt locked in the studio for three months, having to act the part non-stop, so cant be compared to regular people living and playing the BB game 24 hrs a day. What else can the hgs play but themselves? And I think that is what we are seeing pushed to the extreme. Some can handle it, some disintegrate under the pressure.
I agree that lying and plotting within the limits of the game is to be expected, but going beyond that to personally hurt and damage others, is not! It is fun to sometimes see how a little power goes to some of their heads, though. And how shocked some are when their plans dont work, or they get put on the block--its like they have never come up against any kind of adversity and they cannot deal with it.
Based of some of the meaner players I've seen over the years, I wouldnt want to work with them or be their friends in real life--I would keep thinking of how easily they hurt others.